Andruw Jones Reveals Gold Glove Secrets, Crazy MLB Rookie Hazing Stories, & Hall of Fame Case

All The Smoke

Andruw Jones sits down with Matt Barnes to reflect on his legendary MLB career and the conversation around his Hall of Fame case. The Braves legend talks about growing up in CuraƧao, breaking into the league at 19, and the unforgettable rookie hazing he experienced. He breaks down the secrets behind his elite defense, his approach to hitting, and the mindset that kept him consistent for over a decade. Jones also shares stories about playing alongside Chipper Jones and Greg Maddux, his Jordan Brand deal, and watching his son Druw follow in his footsteps.

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2025-10-09 61 min Transcript

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another dugout edition of All the Smoke with our final guest of this last couple of days at All Start Week in Atlanta, twenty twenty five. Five time All Star, arguably the greatest outfielder centerfielder of all time. Ten consecutive go gloves. That's a lot of work. Man, home run leader in the home run leader in two thousand and five. Welcome to the show, Andrew Jones. Thanks man, Thanks for having man.

00:00:24
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you man, a legend in the game. We're in Atlanta.

00:00:28
Speaker 1: We're kind of talking about a little bit off camera, how good it is to have it back in Atlanta. What's your schedule being like since it's been back out here.

00:00:35
Speaker 3: I'm in busy man. First of all, thank you for having me. You know, I watch it. I watch the show.

00:00:39
Speaker 2: Oh Man, appreciate that.

00:00:40
Speaker 3: You know, I like it. There's a lot of good stories in it. So, you know, thank you for having me. Been busy all start getting being busy for me, I mean, obviously for a lot of full ma MLB players that play in Atlanta. A lot of stuff that MLB trying to get the fans involved with. You go meet and greed here meet and greed there pictures over here and stuff that. But you know, they're doing a good stuff hosting the All Star Game all the time. When whatever said, he is so obviously having a here in Atlanta, you know since two thousand, it's been a while. Yeah, you know, it's good for the fans, it's good for the people that work around the stadium, people that work you know, any business and get.

00:01:19
Speaker 1: Get Yeah, I'm gonna jump ahead a little bit of fatherhood. We're talking about that. I'm actually in the middle of coaching in Peachjam right now. As soon as I'm done with interview, I'm gonna drive back to Augusta. Your son, Drew was the second overall pick in twenty twenty two as an eighteen year old. How did that make you feel first and foremost to the father and what kind of guidance do you give during his journey? I know he's dealt with a little bit of injury, Like what kind of mental game do you try to give him?

00:01:45
Speaker 3: First of all, I mean, I'm very proud of him. I me know, you know, me and and his and his mom raised him very well. We you know, we guide him, We taught him the right things from the beginning. By the end of the day, he's the one to have to make the decision what he want to do for his few And you know, I think the opportunity came up and he choose to be professional. He could have go to college, but he preferred to be that. And you know, after that, like I say, you know, trying to raise him right, trying to tell him what's wrong was right. At the end of the day, he's going to do whatever you want because you know he's going to go away, but not much just trying to tell him the right things. You know, it's supporting. I think that's why. You know, sometimes parents just get you know, out of way, trying to want it more than the kid won. So all I do is trying to support him and trying to guide him the right way and let him do his things.

00:02:35
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. What would that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know a lot of people ask me that question all the time, you know, and say, you know, you should be in the Hall of Fame. You know, when you're going to be in the Hall of Fame. I have no control of those things, you know what I mean, But it will be a great honor for myself, for my career that I had, for my family, for for the Island careers south to be you know, one of the first you know cures out player that make into the Hall of Fame. But you know, not gonna lie to you, you know, I try not to think much about it because you know, every January, you know, you know, your name pop up and people start talking about, you know, the career that you had, and you know, the percentage keep going up. So I think we trended in the right direction. So if it happened, it would be great. If it don't, you know, I will be the same person that always been.

00:03:24
Speaker 1: You know, we received sixty three percent of the vote last last time they talied up, which needs seventy five. So you're definitely heading in the right direction. Your your resume speaks for itself.

00:03:35
Speaker 2: Quick kind of question off the cuff. Do you watch the Little Legue World Series?

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Speaker 1: I always, I always do have a really strong program.

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Speaker 2: For a long time.

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Speaker 3: We you know, baseball and Curiors have been big forever, I mean since you know, since before my dad and my dad played baseball down there, so it's always been big. You know, they do run huge in the Caribbean Series. So first you got to win the Caribbean Series and then you come to Willing the Sport. So you know, you got to go to you know, between a lot of good, tough competitions, like you know you're going to Puerto Rico's. You know, you have all these other islands down there that you have to play against to get to the the Lyric World Series. But you know, the program is big down there, and the program is big all around the world because you can see everybody from all the place like Japan, Korea. I mean, you know, it's it's it's it's a big program. And you know, all we want to do is continue to grow it and get more kids to trying to get you know, chase their dream that they want to do.

00:04:39
Speaker 1: That's my guilty pleasure man. As a forty five year old old ass man, I love watching the Little.

00:04:44
Speaker 2: League World Series. That shit has subbed up to me. So paint the picture of your upbringing in Curausel.

00:04:49
Speaker 3: You know, growing down there, all I want to do is probably you know, just be a kid, be honestly. You know, you know, as a little boy, you know, at six year old, you know, you watch baseball on TV. You be like, hey, you know I want to I want to I want to play baseball on TV. You're not thinking that you want to be a professional baseball player. So we get a lot of baseball from you know, South America, like the Winter Ball League, then from Venezuela, so I see a lot of you know, Latin American players play. You know, we used to only get World Series, you know. And I was a big Oakland A's fan growing up. So you know, I grew up watching the A's. You know, all want to do where is the white shoots? So you know that was that was my thing. But you know I followed baseball, says a little kid. So you know, always been a dream to to play it. But you know, you grow up, you become a little man, and and you you know, you start focusing school and you start have to think about, you know, what kind of career you want to do in school. So I always wanted to work be a technician and work with airplanes, so I started going to a technical school. But then you know, I start you know, getting a little older, getting a little mature. Were in you know, you know, I always been They've always been doing tryouts and curisau. So I never went to know a tryouts and curis out. You know, I play a game. Somebody got hurt, so I got in and a scout went down there looking at somebody else and I got in the game. It was so weird. I got in the game and I had two home runs and the scout was like, who's this kid? So, you know, for for all the kids that that you know, trying to change the dream and anything, you know, even basketball, football, whatever, when you get the opportunity, you just have to take advantage of And I think that's what I did my whole career, you know, since you know, since I've become a professional. The Braves gave me an opportunity to play play the game that I love and that I wanted to do, and you know, I took advantage of it. At what age was that game with the I was thirteen.

00:06:48
Speaker 1: So thirteen is that when it kind of became more realistic that this could possibly be something I can.

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Speaker 3: Yes, at thirteen, I was like, all right, so I think I can do this. And then you know, the scouts starting in the door and say we want you know, we're going to bring a bigger scout to watch your practice and then it's like fourteen, Then you know you start thinking, okay, maybe I got a chance, you know, so you start preparating yourself a little bit more, you know, but still in school involved, so you have to still go to school and stuff like that. But at sixteen, you know, I made a big decision with my parents, and you know, my dad told me this, I'll never forget this, to say, it's no way back home. So this is one way, you know, and even not saying don't come back home to the house, but it was just one way to this because you know, you know, you're not finished school, you know what I mean. You you're making this your career. So it's one way. So you just don't look.

00:07:39
Speaker 1: Back financially obviously being able to put your family in a better situation. But what kind of pride did you leave with knowing that you're representing a whole island of people.

00:07:50
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, it's you know, you take private everything when when you know they mentioned your name, you go into the States and you're from a small island that you know that a lot of a lot of kids don't get the opportunity to go to the States and play baseball. Obviously, I was not the first guy that that that left the island to go play, but I was one of the first ones that that really stand out and and and and brought the name of Curas out on the map when you know, when I made it to the World Series in ninety six, so you know, right there everybody started recognized, you know, the name curus out and and and people was like, where's that at? Where's that? Because we were more under the Netherlands and Tillies and you know, the name won't pop up much. So now it's you know, we move away from the Analys Andtillies. Now it's the name is Curresause and now people more know about it. But you know, since then, you know, I start growing and you know, we start seeing a lot of kids. You know, I want to do the same thing you do. And and then you know, now you know, for population wise, you know, we we probably have the most most major most most Major League Baseball player as population wise, you know, more than Dominican Republic. You know, Dominican probably have I don't know, one hundred million people. But for the population that we have on the island, we got more major le. I love it.

00:09:10
Speaker 2: What did that do for your family financially?

00:09:12
Speaker 3: I didn't grow up, you know, in the bas situation. My dad, my dad had a great job. You know, we you know, we we didn't grow up, you know, hurting him on a lot of stuff. But you know we weren't rich. But you know, I didn't get a big signing bonus. You know, I just took what what they gave me because this is what I wanted to chase. And I think my dad was a big part of it because he, you know, when you find out somebody else that I signed the same time have more money than I got, he was pissed about it. So you know he was like, well, now we're going to put some work in and we're going to make that happen. And you know, he was a big, big part of my career earlier and durings the end. And you know, he never he never stopped working.

00:09:58
Speaker 1: With How do you guys navigate kind of not being taken advantage of in those situations because you know your father, your dad's never been there. If you're you're a teenager, like you said, you saw someone in a similar situation get more money, how do you guys, make sure you kind of do the best you can.

00:10:13
Speaker 2: To get what you need and move forward the right way.

00:10:16
Speaker 3: I just work and just work, like I say my dad, that was like, hey, we're going to put the work to get you there, and you know the focus in. You know you're going to make a lot of mistakes. You know, obviously, you know this game is a game of failure. You're gonna fail more than you're going to succeed. So just know how to handle the failure. That's I think that's the most important thing of you know, anybody's career, how to handle the failure. If you if you know how to handle failure, you're going to be all right. But if you don't know, you're going to keep digging yourself deeper and deeper and you're not going to come out of it. So I think those are things that you know, we work on. I mean, obviously, everybody have the talent, everybody have the physicality, some have more than other. But you know, if you work at it, you you know you're going to be at the top. But the most thing is more mental than anything. Absolutely.

00:11:06
Speaker 1: When you hear greats like Willie May's and Roberto Clemente and here that those are the only two outfielders that have more gold gloves than you. When you kind of sit back and look at what you accomplished, Like, do you allow yourself to kind of patch yourself on the back because you were a bad motherfucker out there at the moment. In the moment, you can't really do it. But when you sit back now and look and see what you accomplished.

00:11:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm proud of I took a lot of proud on my defense. I you know, I wanted to be the beast for real, every time when a stamp on the field, I was going to be the best, and you know I was going to do something to help my team win. So I think I carry myself very high. One wanted to be the beast centerfielder. I was never going to be Willie Mace. I was never going to be robertic g Man. I'm never going to be King Griffy, you know. So, uh, those guys are their own. Probably nobody's going to be me so yourself, you know what I mean. So everybody have to be the South. So sometimes it's so fair when people can compare you to other people. So you know, it's like nobody gonna compare you to Michael Jordans, you know what I mean. So it's only going to be one Michael Jordan's. So you might have the same things of what they do, but you're not. You know, it's it's kind of not fair to to compare. But you know it the numbers, you know, you know, not a lot of people doing it. It's it's it's stand out. You know. Obviously, Wheeling maz is one of the greatest baseball players, that player America. Robertical Mint is an icon baseball player. So and Griffy to Griffy to you know, he's just who he is. So it's it's good to be in that that that group, and you know, just people recognize.

00:12:42
Speaker 1: That your highlight reel on the defense side is incredible. Where did those instincts on the defensive side come from?

00:12:48
Speaker 3: It's a good question because you know, you just the instinct is just trying to learn, guys. I'm trying to learn my my teammates, my players, my pitchers, who's who's hitting? If you hitting, you know, I watch what you do, and I'm just trying to put myself in the right position and use my instinct. What I'm thinking that you're going to do. So those are things that do. But all that starting practice. You know, I go and practice, I watch, I watch practice. I go out there and I shag fly balls for like fifteen minutes before the game. You know, you know, just like anything. You know, you get warm up, warming up, shooting. You guys go out there and and shoot around for twenty thirty minutes, so you work on why you want to work that day so when you go to the game it will be more easy. So you know, every every preparation start, you know, at three thirty. You know, we have a seven o'clock game. Everything start at three thirty. You start doing all your routines, do all the stuff you ever do. If you need to hit, you go on the field. You need to extra ground balls, you know, you go out there and shag for fifteen minutes. You hit, and then you go in and be ready when you shag. You know, you shag and all laughing right all the time, so you get on your legs ready. So when the game is you only watch one ball, so you know all you have to do is just go get that ball. So I think that's all the instincts of the game. Start for me.

00:14:02
Speaker 1: Talk to me about your outfield coach, Jim Beachman, how impactful he was for you he did.

00:14:07
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I had so many before Beaching. Beaching was in in the big leagues. But I had Gary Pattis that was one of the baddest center fielder in the game that played with with Ani Angels. He won probably six go Glove too as a center fielder. So everything started from the mine league. He was our minor league groving proto coordinators. So he was always around working with me. You know, tell me the right things, tell you what to look for because he did it before. And I think, what we're missing a lot, you know, not to go a different direction. We're missing a lot that in the minor league. We don't have guys that that did it on the high state stage to to teach these kids where where to be at and what to look for or what to do. So I had those all day. I had Whey Starter at a coach in the MYN League. I mean, he get really started to come out there and he's old Rent Rover and he's like, oh man, this guy is the great. So for him to talk to you, and and and and you know, tell you stuff, what to look for, what to do, and stuff like that is awesome. But then when they got to the big leagues, Beach helping a lot about you know, work with me. I mean he you know, he put me always in the right position to to to be successful. So I carry that on and I help other people on my size to to be on the right side to make plays. Love that.

00:15:26
Speaker 1: What is one attribute you feel it's needed to be a great outfielder?

00:15:33
Speaker 3: Just work at it, or I think work. You know, obviously you have to have some kind of talent. You gotta you know, you gotta know how to go catch flight balls and stuff like that. But just work, you know what I mean, if you're some kind of athlete, I can put you out there and put you in the right spot to be to teach you. So it's just work at it.

00:15:50
Speaker 1: We talked to uh David Justice yesterday about the art of climbing the wall and he said he had no idea.

00:15:57
Speaker 2: We talked about Bo Jackson and Ken Griffy.

00:16:00
Speaker 1: Someone is yourself. What is the art of being able to climb the wall and go up there and rob.

00:16:03
Speaker 3: A home run? And I think just instincts just wanted to catch the ball. I think that's how you know those those space happen. You don't plan stuff because you just don't know where it's going to go. So you just always chasing, you know what I mean, just chasing you see it and it's just like I got it, and then you just down on your wall or you jump up the wall and you make the play. Don't see an art of it. It's just it's it's beautiful. It's beautif. It's beautiful when you do it. Get it, but just go get it. That's that's that's the money st Do.

00:16:34
Speaker 1: You have one rob that that stands out to you? Your your favorite something you got?

00:16:39
Speaker 3: I mean I played Sholler so much so I didn't get a chance to go out to the wall much, but I did. I robbed berry Bones one time. It's one guy I used to rob all the time with the mass I phone, so he used to kill us and I always always set him up and go get it. So it's just, you know it, it's so many I can't I mean, I really can think of you know, I have some great plays, plays that I made to finish games, you know, for the pitch to get shut out so it's a lot. Man, It's so it's so many. It's just you know, you don't you don't think about him. It's just like when it pop up sometimes on social media. You see it and then stuff and that, then you like remember, it's like, oh, that was a good play. I remember that game.

00:17:24
Speaker 2: So does your son understand how good his dad was? Or you just dad to him?

00:17:29
Speaker 3: I'm just coaching. He called the coach coach. He called me coach because I always talk with him all the time on the phone. I mean after the game or or whatever. He's on the West Coast, so I always I always hit him up in the morning. It's like, I was your day, you know, how you feel, what you did or whatever. But he called me coach. You know, you see the art words.

00:17:48
Speaker 4: You know what.

00:17:51
Speaker 3: You know. He think, he thinks, he thinks he's going to be better. So I let him keep thinking that. But I'm very proud of me. He's a really good defensive player, really good, really good defense. I'm I'm I can see something, but it's a long way.

00:18:04
Speaker 1: I love I Love the nineteen ninety six, a nineteen year old hit three forty five and three home runs in the playoffs.

00:18:13
Speaker 2: It's a young boy right there.

00:18:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, young thundercat. Yeah.

00:18:17
Speaker 2: New York is different too. Yeah.

00:18:21
Speaker 3: I mean that's a long story, man. I mean I started that year in a ball and I was kind of mad, be honest, because you know, they they invite, they invite this guy that I played with that had a great year too, to the spin training and I didn't get invited. So I was pissed, and I told the guy and I was like, I told the guys. I was like, I'm gonna be there soon, don't worry about it. But I was just sucking trash, you know what I mean. Just I was mad because all I want to do is go to spin training and get some major league at bats, you know, like the bats with my name on it, so I can have in the minor league so our plays with you know, you always get good bats. But it was just long, you know, a ball. I was trying to you know, we're trying to win a championship over there, and I ended up, you know, moving from a ball to double A, then double A to triple A and then on the sudden, I'm in the big leagues. And I always played center field and triple A. The Mager came to me, go, hey, Andrew, you're playing right field today. And I was like, I'm not playing right field. I'm center field. It's like, well, Bobby Cox wanted you to play right field. I was like, okay, all right, so we go play right field. So playing right field, first ball over my head. I'm like, damn, I know I'm not a freaking right fielder. But I threw the ball in and you know, they're moving back to center field. And then the next day they called me and say you're going to the big leagues and I was like, you guys playing I was like, I didn't think so I was like, no, you guys joking with me is something. But you know, I got call up. I ended up going to Philadelphia for my for my first game, and you know, the Braves knew something that whenever, you know, they knew that the team had so many left hand hitters, so they wanted to have a couple of right handers. And it was just me and Jermaine die. They had a lot of guys that was hurt, and David jos was hurt. He blew out his shoulder so he was not able to play. I think he was working trying to come to the playoffs, but they shut him down. So it was just Braves knew what they were doing, who they were gonna face. Obviously we didn't end up winning. That was serious, so you know, it was a great moment for me, you know, to put the island curisall my man. Nobody knew, you know, this young kid from Curisou. So you know, the Yankees didn't know who I was beyond me. They just thought I was I was just a young kid. And and then threw some pitches over the playoff that was gonna that was gonna miss.

00:20:39
Speaker 2: They found out. What's it like?

00:20:41
Speaker 1: You get the call up and you get you and get in the locker room for the first time, and you go to your locker and you see your number with your name on the back and it's the brother of the big ball club.

00:20:51
Speaker 2: What was that moment like for you?

00:20:52
Speaker 3: Be honest with me, I really didn't think nothing, man, Really, I really didn't think. I was just like just baseball, just baseball. You know, the moment when you sit back you're like, Wow, I'm in the big leagues and you're seeing guys that you out of light. You see guys that you know you you watch on TV more than anything, and you're like, okay, this is it. But I really did not think nothing. I walk into the clubhouse. A lot of people gave me a lot of trash because you know, back then, you know the Braves, you have to wear slacks on the road. I came out with some golf shorts, and everybody was like, who the hell is this kid? Think he is so right now? Everybody started looking at me a different way already, like this kid think he's too too big, But nobody tell me the rules. So I got there, and you know, after that, it was just you know, fun gun, you know, get going and and and and trying to win, you know, trying to win a championship. I know, you know, since I've been playing with the Braves, way before I made it to the major League, they've been very consistent getting to the playoffs and win division titles and and winning World Series or go to the World Series. We just got them mentality off, Hey, this is what we're doing. This is what we're going to continue to do from here on. And and you know, we always grew grew up as a winner.

00:22:01
Speaker 1: After the performance in the World Series, did you got to end up winning. What kind of expects did you feel the expectations or the pressure from the media or the outside that coming into that next season?

00:22:12
Speaker 3: Not really, you know what I mean. With the media, it's just they as I was too young, they really did not, you know, they didn't. The media in atlanta's a little different. I split it like that. The media done is that we don't have a lot of media. Like if we was in New York, it would have been a different story. We were in California, would have been a different story. But Atlanta, it's just it's only like two three big, big writers that that you know, to be in your face, always asking a lot of questions. So they you know, you get a little breeder down here. It was not much. I mean they knew, they knew what kind of what kind of team we are kind of you know performance. You know, we're trying to do every every year after year after year. So sometimes they ride to say, hey, you know, you only got one more serious, you know what I mean. So it's it's one of those things that it's hard to win. Who serious, it's hard to do it. It's hard to win a championship. You know, everything have to go right, you know a lot and luck And you know, first of all, yeah, that's that's very very You have to have luck. Everything have to bounce your way because if it don't, you're not gonna you're not gonna win. Yeah.

00:23:13
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how much obviously skill and preparation and prepare helps, but you have to have luck. You got a chance to play with a bunch of legends in Atlanta. I'm gonna give you some name. Just give me some first thing to come to mind with these guys. Fred McGriff, crime dog, Freaky Fred, Freaky Fred.

00:23:34
Speaker 2: Give me what's freaky friend?

00:23:36
Speaker 3: Let's freak? You're just quiet? You always see it in the corner. You don't see him, but he's there, he's there. But yeah, I mean crime dog. You know, I I I didn't know a lot of and I watched, even if it was a right handed I watched a lot of stuff that he did and and and I tried to to get do the same thing. So you know, you, I think I tell a lot of a lot of kids this all the time. You got to watch. You gotta watch because you might do something that I might pick up that I learned from you. Know what I mean. So you got to watch and willing to learn and willing to learn every day. So that's why I learned a lot from Fred Jones. Uh, he might be black here redneck, but I think he might be black black red neck. He might be a black red neck.

00:24:28
Speaker 2: Sperd David Justice, David Justice.

00:24:32
Speaker 3: David gave me a lot of hell though, But we we were cool. But he gave him a lot of hell because I think he knew that I was one of the guys that was coming up, that that was going to move him away. And then you know, ninety seven, they traded him, and I didn't think they were going to trade. They traded him and Chris gets him to cleve room. But he did give me a lot of hell though. But he's my boy though, That's Dave, my boy. SMOs is one of the best athletes I think I know that I played with. Be honest with you as a as as a professional. You can play basketball, you can play he can play everything. I mean, you name the sport that dude is doing it.

00:25:07
Speaker 2: When you we talk about smokes Man and Glavin, two guys told us that they felt like Smolpes was out of those three the best.

00:25:18
Speaker 3: The best talent, the best talent, the best stuff. You know, the slider, the velocity, you know, the high performance, like he performed a high level all the time.

00:25:31
Speaker 2: Maddix was Max's That's my next I was gonna say, Greg Maddix.

00:25:35
Speaker 3: Greg Maddix, is he I don't know how you did it. I really don't know how you did it. He did it, but I really don't know. I watch him every day, walk in, he walk out. I'm like, I don't know where this guy do it. I don't know the guy. Really don't work out. You don't do nothing, guy, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how you do it.

00:25:55
Speaker 2: It was great.

00:25:56
Speaker 3: He was just he's the professor. I don't know how you do.

00:25:59
Speaker 2: He was a surgeon, the professor.

00:26:02
Speaker 1: Was he also a prankster? Sheffield said he kind of joked around.

00:26:05
Speaker 3: He was pretty nasty. Was he a nasty guy? Man? You don't want to shower next to him?

00:26:14
Speaker 2: Feet and everything?

00:26:15
Speaker 3: You know, you don't want. I would tell the story. Chippers always used white sanitaries and nextually his locker is. It's a big trade with sanitary so when ice get there most time he gets the dip. He put the dip on on the on the sancitary And so because when Chippard get there, you just dig in and get a big pole footing socks on this food wipe his ass with this ship. Yeah, this food is he's wiping his butt with where the socks and throw him in there and then Chipper properly and and basically Chip is the only one that's using these socks. God he he he nasty. You're a nasty guy.

00:27:03
Speaker 2: That's some ship Shack would do.

00:27:04
Speaker 1: Shack was found, bro, there's no limits of the nasty ship that Shaq would do.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: So he was spit. He would have a big dip in his mouth and you just get us a lobby and you throw it. He split it up there and you think they sing longer that hangout and somebody walk up right to it. He fouled. Yeah, I'm not telling you this boy a diabolical gee. Uh. Tom Gavin very quiet, quiet guy, you know, all by business, great hockey player, but all by business. He was one of those guys too.

00:27:38
Speaker 2: I was like, how's he doing?

00:27:40
Speaker 3: How you doing?

00:27:40
Speaker 4: Man?

00:27:42
Speaker 3: I faced him quite a few times, so I'm like, how you doing?

00:27:46
Speaker 4: Man?

00:27:47
Speaker 3: I mean the stuff that he had early his careers, had a little bit with for losity, but later on I was like all these guys getting outs with eighty eight miles while.

00:27:55
Speaker 1: Fast movement the movement. Yeah, uh, did you go through any rookie?

00:28:00
Speaker 3: I was a tough rookie. Man, I was a tough rookie. I ain't gonna lie to you about it. You wouldn't have. But that's how the whole David Jos's things started.

00:28:10
Speaker 2: I mean talking about it. Yes, you guys are older now, but talk to us about it.

00:28:14
Speaker 3: All right. So David join get hurt and he's doing reap and you know, I get call up. So when I get on the plane, you know, I take my jacket out and I go straight asleep. You know, we have the whole role. So I go say, you know, straight asleep. You know I don't you know, nineteen I didn't drink much, so I'll just go straight to sleep. So he stopped going the road and I get you know, I'm I'm in front of the boss. I get on the boss. I get on the plane first. So I go to the seat that I always sit on for you know, two weeks now, watch by two weeks he go, rookie, you need to get up. I was like, he said, you need to get up. It's my seat. I look around. I say, I don't see your name. I said, I don't see your name of it. So the whole hell started right there. He wanted to fucking beat my ass. He didn't want to do it, so we go get TP. Terry Panther was a little older guy. TP. Come. I say, Andrew, you need to get out. That's David seat man. I say, Tpa, I don't see his name, and I'm sleepy. So I went to sleep. So I went to sleep. They didn't. They didn't master When we get up, I can see they pissed off, but you know, I'm like, I don't care whatever. We go. We go, we we land in Miami. We go to hotel. We late. We landed late. We went to Miami. I'm calling for my bag in the morning because I'm not calling when I get it. I'm going to sleep. So I called my back in the morning. You already call your backup. I was like, what I said, you already call your backup. I was like, okay, I look at the list. You know that everybody had an alien name, right Alia's name. So I was like, call somebody to say I think I called. They called Eddie or Harvey Lopez was David. David he said so and so I look, I was like, he's down right, So I look at it. I walked away for the mates, wait for the maid to go clean the room, open the door. I walk in. I grab my back. He fucking lost it. He lost it. They really wanted to fight me in the clubhouse. So then those starts starting. They start fucking with me. They start putting hot stuff in my pants, fucking put stuff in my shoes, cut my pants. I mean, they they, I mean, they really went in hard. So I didn't care, you know, I mean, you just you know, they always say, you know, rookies get picked on, so I really didn't. You know, I enjoy it. I mean, you know, you you're a tough mug. So I didn't care. Then that kind of bothered them more because I didn't care, So, you know, I was like, it's cool. But you know, after that, everything was cool. After you know, you know, we got to the playoff because now it's more business than anything, so you know, you had your fair. It was not it was not it was not fun, but it's part of it. It's part of it.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: I like that you stood on your ship like, fuck.

00:31:21
Speaker 3: This be I I'm not I'm not telling your story. Man.

00:31:27
Speaker 1: A might have pissed them off, but I think at the point they had to respect it.

00:31:29
Speaker 3: Though probably probably they were like this guy, this guy is real.

00:31:34
Speaker 2: You got to respect it.

00:31:35
Speaker 1: Seven seasons with thirty home runs plus you played in a pd era, although you were never linked to that. Was there ever questions about obviously you're performing at one of the best in the.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: World at this time.

00:31:47
Speaker 1: Where there ever links or rumors about you and PDS that you heard of?

00:31:51
Speaker 3: No, I mean you you we started getting tasted it. I think in two thousand and three. I think that was the time that they kind of did it like a random to see what percentage will be if they're going to make him in the tory or not not doing it. And I think I think, you know, guys were failing it, so the percentage was very high. In the ninety four they start doing you know, like the whole thing. You know, you see guys that did it, you see guys that say they did it, You see guys that did it. Then then do nothing, you know, they they still was still was still wasn't good. So you know, obviously it helped, you can see the help, but you still got to you still have to have the talent. You still have to go out there and play, you know. I mean, you know, everybody linked with a lot of people on it, you know. You know, I watch sometimes that Territory with Maguire, you know, when he was saying, you know, I bought this on on you know, over the counter, so obviously it was kind of legal, I guess, you know what I mean. So after that, things start getting you know, more people start getting there. I think the steroids thing is more ego than anything, you know. I think guys that that being on on top of the game and and some of the guys that you know been heard when to want to jump up and and and get little boos to be back at the level that they were. I think that's what this whole PD and and and and steroids go on about.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: Though you were one of two at the time, Jordan guys with with with Jeter. What was it like and how did that deal come about?

00:33:28
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's it's it was. It was kind of it was tough because I know well, uh, world West, world wide West. Yeah, he was the one that that set up the whole thing. Yeah, that's my boy, man, Uncle West, Uncle West. He set up the whole thing. And you know, we go to I'm playing in Chicago the Cups, and the next the next Sunday, and then one day and Tuesday is the All Star game. And he said, hey, come meet me here at this at this location. And I walk in there and I walk in and MJ was there. And so I met MJ before in places like clubs and stuff like that that we walked through, but never sit down and and and and talk with him. So that's why, you know, all the whole thing started. And you know, since then, I've been I've been with with him.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: You still get the boxes.

00:34:26
Speaker 3: I still get the boxes, not like it used to, not like it used to. I get half of the boxes. I get half the box. I'm still happy. I'm getting boxed about half of the boxes. But it's kind of overwhelmed though. It's a overman, big time. I mean, the stuff that's saying you is it's crazy. It's Jordan's It's too much. It's too much. I mean, I say, now, back then, I was like yeah, I keeping and saying, but now it's like, why don't want to put all this stuff right? You know. So it's always been you know, you know, being one of the first ones that that do it with Jeter was it was good and Jitter was in the American League, it was in the National League. So you know, after that, everybody start getting on and then you know, he stopped building the brand of the baseball part bigger and we start getting a lot of other guys.

00:35:13
Speaker 1: What was that first you sitting down and having that first real conversation with Mike and did he present it to West present?

00:35:18
Speaker 2: And how did the work?

00:35:19
Speaker 3: Well? West presented? And you know, we start talking and I say, man, you know I always you know, I wear twenty three in the Mior League my whole career because Michael Jordan really I love that. You know, every time I could have getten on the twenty three, it was getting it. I didn't get twenty three in Atlanta because they've adjusted that. So every time you know what I mean, Yeah, I can't walk in and say, David, I want you to make me a ship.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: But you know we're about we're about to get you. We're about to get you out of it. Give me your ship, bro.

00:35:49
Speaker 3: So they gave me twenty five. And you know, since that had been twenty five for a while with it, you know, all my career. So you know, I wear twenty three because him, and you know, even if you play baseball, you want to be like Michael Jordan's. You know, I played basketball at school. I want to be like Michael Jordan's. So and you know, that's how it started. But the comfy ship was there, and you know, I didn't know, you know, I see his hands down. I didn't know what he's doing. He was getting a manicure underneath the unerneath the table while you were talking, while we were talking business, he had his helot to day say I gotta go home. It's like you go, you're going to a motorcycle. This guy is, he's a freak.

00:36:31
Speaker 4: I don't know.

00:36:36
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you know you you heard the documentary of him and all the stuff. What made him drive that he always loved the game of baseball. You know, he always was a big baseball fan. You know, he grew up playing it. I mean, obviously, if everybody you know basically played baseball at some point of their life, so you know, he always was a love of it. You know, I was a little a little a little surprised how quick he got in a little bit though. I mean, gonna like you, how quick. But then they start throwing the breaking pitch and then it was like, okay, there's a different story. And then you know that's how Michael Jordan is. He work on stuff. So now he's gonna sit seem breaking pitch. So he's going to hit a thousand breakupitch and he's gonna make adjustment because great athletes make adjustment quick than others. So that's what he did.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: But why can he not do you know nothing successful?

00:37:29
Speaker 1: You played for the legendary Bobby Cox, all time leader and injections. I love to hear that. I didn't know that to I was going over there. But you spoke to the importance of him in your life. Speak to what kind of relationship you guys have. I mean, he's like my second dad, man.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: You know, I think since I left Currous out, you know, my dad always been there. You know, I always start with but I think I spend more time with Bobby cos then I was and my whole career than I spent with my dad, you know. So you know he was my second and that and you know I thank him so much to give me the opportunity. He believed in me. So you know, when your dad believe in you, you never want to feel you you know what I mean. So that's why I feel about Bobby. Guys. I mean, you know, we have your back all the time. We we had. You know, we have our discussion, we have an argument before, we yell at each other before, and I think that that made us more more closer than than than than ever. So you know, I thank him every time, you know, I mean everybody, every time I talk about my career. You know, Bobby is a big, big part of him. With all the other coaches that I had in my career, but he was, you know, one of the guys that I was like, you know, he he actually believed in me and give me the opportunity and I took advantage of it.

00:38:47
Speaker 2: Love it.

00:38:48
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:38:48
Speaker 1: He once pulled you from a game mid inning after you let a fly ball pass.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you the clip real quick.

00:38:57
Speaker 3: Let him pass it drop in front of me.

00:38:59
Speaker 2: See you remember the play?

00:39:02
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:39:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh ship, Damn.

00:39:08
Speaker 3: I should have catched the ball.

00:39:11
Speaker 2: Look, he's already he's pissed.

00:39:15
Speaker 3: He's probably like, what the fuck Andy doing? Go get it?

00:39:24
Speaker 1: So talking through this, he ends up pulling you mid any what is What does he say when you're getting the dugout? O?

00:39:29
Speaker 3: Man? Man, that's there's a lot of efforts going go to that thing we're playing. We're playing and you know that's that's right there. At that point, it basically kind of, you know, changed everything for me a little bit. I'm not gonna lie to you know. I mean, I was doing what I do always, you know, good great defender, great defender. That that inning the inding before I strike out against Kerry Wood with people on base. So I was pissed. So I carried that to the to the to the defense and I kind of lost my focus a little bit. And Lance Johnson used a big bat, so when he swing, it feels like, you know, it's gonna jump. So he took a big swing, but I didn't, you know, my focus was there, so I didn't see him hit on the end of the back so he blewpan. So right now I look at it, I said, I will be yelling myself too, by the way, but at that moment, I didn't think, so I just caught the ball and throw it in and Bobby yanked me. And I was like, I'm standing there. I'm looking back and I see, you know, Gerald Williams that passed passed probably three three years two years ago, A good friend of mine. He's running at me, and I was like, you go. I was like, okay, so I'm going in. I'm getting there. I'm walking. He go get your ass over there, go down here. So we go down there. He started yelling. I'm yelling him. I was like, I didn't fucking know I was doing. I said, sorry, what the fuck you want me to do? You say you fucking talk? You me fucking up all the time. You know, he was yelling at me. I mean he was yelling. I was like, you motherfucker and ship I was like, man, I said, fuck you, I'm the best fucking player you got on the fucking team. And he's like. We were going back and forth. So I'll go in you know, the meet again and ask me what happened. I told him what it is. And you know, they say, what you think. Bobby said, you might not play again? I say, I don't know. You know, he's the manager he's decisions, but probably wouldn't never, not anybody else trust me. He comes to the say the first man, he's probably gonna write the name out, it's my name, figure out where I'm gonna hit. But I'm in the lineup. I'm in there. You know, I think that point of my career really to find me off. You know, the focusing of you know, your bad is over defense is never you know what I mean. So I think that that make a big difference of him.

00:42:03
Speaker 1: Two thousand and four off season, you got a chance to work with Willie Mays on the hitting side. What did h what kind of tip did he give you? Or what were we able to take away from that?

00:42:13
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I didn't work with him. I met with him and we talked in oh four when we was in San Francisco. We talked and you know, he you know, he told me some stuff. I think that year I was you know, it wasn't having one of my greade years. You know, I don't know when I many not watch my numbers. I didn't have that consistencies that I was looking for offensively, So we you know, we talked in San Francisco, and you know after that, when the season was over, because at that moment, me and Terry Pendalton was together and Terry Penalt was our hitting coach, and we talked with Willie Mays and really was telling me some stuff and I capp it. And when the off season, I just build a batting cage at the house and me and Terry pan Done went straight in the KH and offseason and trying to perfract what we were looking for and that we talked with Really Mays about and end up working in five and I ended up hitting fifty one home runs. But you know, like I say, every time you know somebody a legend or anybody, don't have to be somebody that you see is doing something good. You can take something from them. You have to take it. You know.

00:43:27
Speaker 1: Terry Penleton told the story where he said he saw Willie Mays come up to you and Willy told you he was the best you he'd ever seen.

00:43:34
Speaker 2: Any truth to that.

00:43:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, he did it, but he did it and in this way that you know, you say, you're almost as close good as me. You know, he said you're the best. He said, you're almost You're almost as good at me. So you know, when somebody like, really, Mays Man, I think, you know, we missed those legends of the game so much being around the stadium every time when we go to to to play. You know, you know San Francisco, you know, you name it. You know all these other other teams, like even New York. You go to New York, you will see Ray Jackson around and all these people. You miss seing these guys talk with him about baseball because at the end of the day, all you want to do is talk baseball, you know. You know, I I talk with Hank a bunch of times. You know, sometimes when I was struggling, Bobby was like, hey, go up there and talk with Hank. You know, just when you got there, you really don't talk baseball. You would just ask you about how's your family, you know, talk about life, you know, tell you know, talk about you know, you need to take care and make sure you take care of your family, make sure you take care of your kids. You know, focus on this focus and that because you know you have the talent. He just wanted to take you away to get your mind off the game a little bit and and and talk something else. So you know, I always was honored to see all these guys around and and and Nick picked their mind and and and in their career, and the legacy the life off the field on the field. So it's always great. And you know, I think we're missing that now a lot in our sport. You know, a lot of the the organization don't keep a lot of the you know, the legends, the legends of the game around. No more so it's it's changing a little bit. But you know some teams does Yeah, you got to.

00:45:20
Speaker 2: You played for four more teams before you finish your career.

00:45:24
Speaker 1: You got a chance to play for Ozzie Gain. I know he's a little crazy. I heard you enjoyed him. You got any stories of Ozzie.

00:45:29
Speaker 3: Ozzi is one of the wildest guys. Actually, I played with Ozzie in winter Ball in Venezuela in ninety six. Wow, So I've been knowing Ozzie for a long time. You know, the stories, the wildness, He don't care, he can say whatever. I think. Why he's not in the game as a manager because you speak the true or you speak why do you feel like it too much?

00:45:55
Speaker 2: Too too real?

00:45:56
Speaker 3: Too real? Sometimes you have to kind of keep things in for yourself. You got to know where it is. But he's he's too real, he said, what do you want to say? But he's a great man. He loved the game. You know, I learned a lot from him. He helped me a lot. I think in ninety six when I'm when when we're playing winter Ball together, I was tired. I was thinking, you want to want to be there? I just don't done playing in the World Series. The Braves didn't think I was going to be in the World Series. So we made a deal that I'm gonna go to winter Ball and play baseball in Venezuela for for two months. So I went there. I didn't want to be there. You know, we hang out partying. I don't want to play. So he came out and say, hey, Andrew, if you don't want to play, you go home. I said, I am going home. So I went home. And you know, then three years later, I'm playing with him, you know, here in Atlanta. So you know, play with him Atlanta. You know, he helped He helped us a lot in ninety in ninety nine to to get to the World Series versus the mat I mean versus the Yankees again, and then play with him, and I think ten No. Eleven and eleven and twelve Yankees ten. I played with him as a manager. You know, he I call him and say, hey, you're gonna You're gonna give me a chance to play out here. You go, Well, if you come in shape, you play. I say, all right, So again I went. I went and worked out and got in great shape. I came to spring training. He said, no, you're not gonna play.

00:47:30
Speaker 2: Fucked.

00:47:31
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, fuck up. So all I didn't spend training is play golf. You know, I I really probably in that spring training with him, I probably had like maybe twenty at bats. Every day I walk in. My name is not line up. I go play golf. After I get DOWNE practice. So I think, right now, right there, the the the passion on playing golf kind of start kicking in, and I think I just from there on I pick it up. But you know, I had a great time there. You know I had a great role. You know, I was platuning d H and play some outfield with remarks and you know I was doing good. You know, you say, and one rules that he have and you know this is before you know, everybody starts sending the lineup down from from the office. You say, if you if you hot, you're playing it. If you call you out of the you're on the bench. So you know that's what the mentality. And you know I got a chance to play for you know, quite quite a time.

00:48:30
Speaker 1: I'll give you some outfielders, just give me. First thing to come in to mind when I mentioned their name.

00:48:33
Speaker 3: Tony gwyn one of the greatest, greatest hit it all all time, you know, know how to put the ball in play. He might have been one of the toughest guy for me to defense because I you know, I couldn't reading much what he was gonna do. If you're gonna slap off, he's gonna pull it. It was just he was one of those ones that I couldn't defense.

00:48:54
Speaker 2: Ye interesting, King Griffyr one.

00:48:56
Speaker 3: Of the best swing in the game, one of one of the all around baseball player, could have do everything.

00:49:06
Speaker 2: Barry Bonds the.

00:49:07
Speaker 3: Best baseball player that I see, the best baseball player that played this game that I see. You know, it's a lot of guys before that play that I didn't see. I really, you know, I only see Hank Karen highlights. I see his numbers. His numbers are ridiculous. I see Willie Mays highlights I never see with my own eyes. Well, the guy I see with my own ice play that I can tell you if you ask me and I, who's the best baseball player of all time? Is Barry Bonds. I play against each in Japan in some All Star game. I knew of him, I knew what kind of player he was, but you know, when he came here, he really went on a different level of the game. You know, I play with him in in New York. Too unique player, very unique player.

00:50:00
Speaker 5: Jim Edmonds good defense editor, good good defense, good defense, great great bad should be in the Hall of Fame, to be honest, men, Tory Hunter not a great center fielder, you know, should be in the Hall of Fame.

00:50:14
Speaker 3: Too great number. I mean, there's so many guys. You know, it's kind of cursed for those guys that play in center field because you know, if you if you look back, it's not that many center fields in the Hall of Fame, And because the numbers that the guys that did it is so outrageous that you know, if you even be half of it, it's not good enough, you know what I mean. So it's it's high. So he's he's a Hall of Fame in my book for me for sure.

00:50:41
Speaker 1: Don't be honest, give me your top five outfielder defensive outfielders of all time?

00:50:46
Speaker 3: Wow, good question, man, that I see or or that I know of, because then if you if you see, you can go with a lot of different name. I mean, you know, you see guys that like Duke Snyder's really mays. I mean I did not see with my eyes, but it's you know that's like my my, my my top, My top was right now. If I can take up my head right now, is Ken Griffy, Tory Hunter, Jim Happens, Kenny Lofton. Those are the guys that I see, and I'll be like, yeah, those are my top guys. But if you want to go all time, you got you know, like I said, you have really mazed Duke Snyders, You got Dick Allen that just going in the Hall of Fame now, he was very good, fast feeling. You got so many guys, So it's it's it's it's it's tough to pick. But if my eyes that I can tell you right now, those the names that I tell you, can.

00:51:39
Speaker 2: You still hit one hundred millar foul fastball today.

00:51:42
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, But you gave me about two weeks. I probably will. You know what I mean. The thing is though your eyes and and your hands. It's all timing. You know, you gave me, you gave me a week. I'm gonna touch it. I'm not gonna tell you him I had it out, but I'm gonna touch it. But you know it takes time. You know, you know, you you go out there. You know we do home runs, home run derbys for events all the time. You know, when you get on that field, you put that uniform on, that thing is kicking in. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's just like you you know, you get on the court. You know, even if you retire a long time ago, you get in the court, your mind is selling by your body mind not your mind is Staalue. I'm there, but your body is not.

00:52:32
Speaker 1: We asked four people that, and three of you guys said no. The only person said absolutely, be easy was Barry. Barry said, it's like.

00:52:39
Speaker 2: Riding the bike.

00:52:39
Speaker 1: It's just here he's gonna throw and he's like, I'm gonna replace the bat or the mint with the bat.

00:52:45
Speaker 3: Right? Did you just hear what one. He is the best baseball player I see play the game.

00:52:58
Speaker 1: When you first step up to the man, what's going through your mind? Excuse me, to the plate? What's going through your mind? What are you looking for?

00:53:04
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to hit the ball right back at him. Okay, that's my mind zone, that's my tunnel. You know. If I if I catch it right, you know, I might kill you. But if I get you a little earlier, put in left field. If I get you a little late, I go right field. But my mind is right. If the boss coming from there, this was I'm going to go for.

00:53:22
Speaker 2: How did you get out of slumps? Were you a superstitious guy or any rituals you had.

00:53:26
Speaker 3: To get I was not really a superstition guy. I you know, when you say you have routines, it can be superstitious. But I just had little routines that I do. You know, I make sure I used the bathroom before I go to the game, before I play, you know, I do do you know, do my own stuff, like you know, my little routines, you know, before before I go out and do some soft tosts whatever, nothing crazy, nothing crazy. To be honest with you, I put my socks always might rice another.

00:53:56
Speaker 2: I'm left first over time, and even shoes.

00:53:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I goes, I go shoes right first. I never put left.

00:54:02
Speaker 2: I left first.

00:54:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you might think that superstitious, right, it's funny. Oh, it's just a team's right.

00:54:09
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck it is even to this day.

00:54:11
Speaker 1: Like if I'm in a hurry and I still can't put my right slide on first, I have to flip the left one over, put the left slide on first.

00:54:17
Speaker 2: I don't know what what the deal I have.

00:54:20
Speaker 3: I do everything right first, and then I go left. I tie this one first, I go to this one. So even when I put my first leg in first, like first leg in, it's right left.

00:54:32
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

00:54:33
Speaker 1: I love that, all right, man, quick hitters, we're at the end of the show. First thing to come to mind. Let us know the smartest picture you ever faced.

00:54:39
Speaker 3: I play against in my face him probably three times maybe with the Dodgers and San Diego is Maddox. He's smart. He's smart. It's very smart. You know. I face a lot of guys face guys like Pedro that is trying to blow it by you smart pictures, but guys that really think why you're thinking it's maddis I love it?

00:55:01
Speaker 2: Best stuff? Who had the best stuff.

00:55:05
Speaker 3: Some of the guys that don't even have good stuff have good stuff. Man ain't right when you're not swinging that back good everybody have good stuff. But let me tell you, though, I I I gave a lot of respect. I mean not respect because I faced him, I got hit of him. But Kevin Brown was very nasty. I mean he was a tough guy for us. He was in the same division. You know, he beat us with the Martins not go to the World Series in ninety seven. He beat us with the with the San Diego Padres. For us not to go to the World Series, we could have had some good World Series run, be honest with you, but this food was so good that he stuff was nasty.

00:55:43
Speaker 2: Worst park, worst MLB park.

00:55:45
Speaker 3: Worst MLB park was j r K. Yeah, yeah it was, but we didn't play much. But when the Expos moved to the Montreal moved to I love. A lot of people might say Montreal Stadium was bad. I love that stadium. Actually I love the city, be honest with me, more than I love the stadium. But I loved I loved that place. I think in DC, the old old JFK was very, very bad.

00:56:15
Speaker 2: Craziest clubhouse story you can share.

00:56:18
Speaker 3: Oh man, I just told the story not long ago to some of the exactives at the had the braves if you skill brought a freaking kangaroo in a diaper to the clubhouse. Yes, we were like, he was like, I have kangaroo. I was like, now you see the pictures. He showed a picture and saying maybe he wasn't insure say, he said, wait till you go to Seattle. I'm gonna bring the kangaroo to the clubhouse. This food, bring the kangaroo to the clubhouse in diaper.

00:56:51
Speaker 2: Did he do any tricks or anything?

00:56:54
Speaker 3: I was like, he was like, I don't know, I ain't gonna mess with this thing. I'm going I'm going to do some work over here.

00:56:59
Speaker 2: And I think kangaroos fuck people up on the internet.

00:57:03
Speaker 3: It was probably like like this. I think it still was a baby behind you.

00:57:07
Speaker 2: Kangaroo was crazy and it.

00:57:09
Speaker 3: Was the only one and yeah, yeah, yeah, a couple of them. Yeah, ain't somebody more story about at us? Yeah, that's that's the you know, the crazy one PG.

00:57:22
Speaker 2: That's that's the above board, Yeah, bench clearing brawl.

00:57:25
Speaker 1: Who were three players you played with during your career that you're gonna make sure you have on your side?

00:57:29
Speaker 3: Oh man, first one is Andres Galarraga.

00:57:33
Speaker 2: Big Fella, the Big, the big Cat, the big.

00:57:36
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I missed those times. Man. We don't see brothering more, but I missed. I missed the fireness of this. I mean this guy, you throw close to him, he looking at you, and you give him like. He goes, let's go. Opening day. I think it's ninety eight. I think against the Dodgers it was opening their second day and drive for pitch, train driver Smoke big Cat. First pitch, Big Cat, look at him, he's tripping. Dow him. Go to the base. Big Cat's like, wow, it ain't do nothing. You go to first base, Big Cat trying to take somebody out of second base. You know they die. Maybe like two months later, we're playing Dodgers in Atlanta day game. Driyfle was nasty by the way too. He goes one through three punches. He punched the first three guys. Everybody go sit down, naxt to bat Big Cat leader up, he's batting. Four were always standing on the lion saying, if this food hit him, we're going in man first pitch boom. If Big Cat had to hit him, he probably would have break his face. If you get a chance, if you can find that clip, look it up. He's big cat. Fish was like this bag, I ain't gonna like a double a double whopper. East Face was like this big He's swung on him. He missing and grabbing. He kind of tumble on it. By the time he got done, that guy was never the same. I think his career kind of went downhill from there on.

00:59:15
Speaker 2: I love it so Big Cat. Who's two more?

00:59:17
Speaker 3: I would take Bobby Bonina, okay, and then I would like to have Brian Jordan.

00:59:25
Speaker 4: Oh.

00:59:25
Speaker 2: I just seen bar George yesterday.

00:59:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got that football mentality and kind of you know, it can click, it can go different real quick, you know what I mean.

00:59:35
Speaker 1: Greatest player in your opinion of all time, Barry Bones, best player in the league right now.

00:59:39
Speaker 2: From a pure talent standpoint.

00:59:41
Speaker 3: It's so many I have to pick talent wise right now at this moment. Doing it consistent, I have to say judge for that tallerness that he is to be so consistent and to do it on the regular basis, it's tough. You know. You you see a lot of baseball players. They're all like six one six dude, the highest maybe six four. But this guy, this guy is this guy is like six seven. So for him to do it on the high level, it's very you know, obviously, you have you know, the the Kunas, you have the you know, the mookies. You got Otani that that actually, be honest with you, tiny can play outfield with the best. I see this kid when he was eighteen years old in Japan.

01:00:27
Speaker 2: He was special, incredible.

01:00:28
Speaker 3: I played two years in Japan. I see him and I was like, this kid is special. Obviously I didn't think he was going to be that hitter that he is now. But when I saw him, he was special.

01:00:40
Speaker 1: One guess you could see on all the smoke. We like crazy. You gotta line to Ozzie will take it?

01:00:46
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hell yeah, I gave you his number. You can. Oh, he ain't gonna be afraid.

01:00:51
Speaker 2: That's good.

01:00:52
Speaker 3: We don't want to be fair.

01:00:53
Speaker 2: Come talking ship.

01:00:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, he afraid he won. Barry did this already. He did Verry Okay. Yeah, in Chicago's in Chicago trip. It's a good trip. Yeah, I like Chicago. Me too.

01:01:07
Speaker 2: Well, Andrew Man, I appreciate your time.

01:01:09
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for your greatness on and off the field. Best of luck to your son and and everything you guys have going on.

01:01:14
Speaker 2: Man, thank you. That's a wrap, Andrew Jones.

01:01:17
Speaker 1: You can catch us and all the Snow productions YouTube and the Draft Kings Network.

01:01:20
Speaker 2: Will see y'all next week.

01:01:24
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm, mm hmmm mm hmmm.

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