SASQUATCH VISITS NORTH CAROLINA PROPERTY: (WE STARTED GIFTING THEM AND THE ACTIVITY INCREASED!)
In this episode, I interview Wende from North Carolina, who, along with her mother, has been experiencing intense and ongoing Bigfoot activity right on their property. Strange noises, mysterious gifts being exchanged, and eerie encounters have left them wondering what exactly is sharing the woods with them.
Unsure of what they were dealing with, Wende and her mother began leaving offerings and gifts for the unknown visitors—hoping to learn more about their behavior and intentions. What they discovered over time paints a fascinating picture of intelligent and curious beings that seem to watch, listen, and interact from the shadows.
Join me as I dive deep into their encounters and try to uncover what might really be happening in those North Carolina woods. Could it truly be the elusive Sasquatch living among them?
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Unsure of what they were dealing with, Wende and her mother began leaving offerings and gifts for the unknown visitors—hoping to learn more about their behavior and intentions. What they discovered over time paints a fascinating picture of intelligent and curious beings that seem to watch, listen, and interact from the shadows.
Join me as I dive deep into their encounters and try to uncover what might really be happening in those North Carolina woods. Could it truly be the elusive Sasquatch living among them?
If you’ve had a Bigfoot encounter and would like to share your story, email me at sasquatchtheory@outlook.com.
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2025-11-27
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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to Sasquatch theory. In this interview, <v Speaker 1>I get in contact with Wendy from North Carolina. She <v Speaker 1>has been experiencing Bigfoot activity at her mother's house, which <v Speaker 1>this is a place that she grew up at and <v Speaker 1>is very familiar with. Wendy and her mother began to <v Speaker 1>notice a strange activity taking place on the property. When <v Speaker 1>visiting her mother's place, she would notice new structures and <v Speaker 1>always get the feeling that something is watching her. After <v Speaker 1>years of finding strange broken trees on the property, Wendy <v Speaker 1>and her mother decided they would start gifting to see <v Speaker 1>what was leaving all the strange sign After time and patience, <v Speaker 1>Wendy and her mother had finally somehow built a relationship <v Speaker 1>with the Sasquatch and the activity began to increase over time. <v Speaker 1>I find this interesting because a person often gets introduced <v Speaker 1>into the world of Bigfoot when they find some type <v Speaker 1>of odd structure in the woods or experience some activity. <v Speaker 1>Once a person acknowledges the fact that these creatures exist <v Speaker 1>and have had their own experiences, there's no turning back. <v Speaker 1>You can't erase the truth, and that is why people <v Speaker 1>are so adamant about their existence. What people have to <v Speaker 1>understand is once a person fully believes there's no amount <v Speaker 1>of ridicule or telling them they saw something else that <v Speaker 1>will make them think otherwise, a person may decide to <v Speaker 1>stop talking about it due to pressure, but ultimately they know. <v Speaker 1>In this video, you will get to hear Wendy's experiences <v Speaker 1>and see the photographs that she has shared from her <v Speaker 1>family's property. Wendy and I have since kept in contact <v Speaker 1>and often share photos of new structures that pop up <v Speaker 1>in each other's areas. In this interview, we will hear <v Speaker 1>the more in gentle kind sight of the Sasquatch, as <v Speaker 1>they are often portrayed as dangerous creatures. Although many stories <v Speaker 1>are not positive in any way and have scared many <v Speaker 1>people out of the forest, there are those who experience <v Speaker 1>good with these creatures and have never had a bad <v Speaker 1>run in. With that being said, anything is possible, and <v Speaker 1>I think it is important to always keep everyone's encounters <v Speaker 1>and experiences in mind when interacting with the Bigfoot. Wendy's daughter, <v Speaker 1>Brie Is also created an awesome Sasquatch theory logo for <v Speaker 1>a T shirt design. It turned out very well and <v Speaker 1>Brie is super talented at what she does. She also <v Speaker 1>created the thumbnail art in the video description. Help support <v Speaker 1>the video by purchasing a T shirt and be sure <v Speaker 1>to tell Brie thank you for the design. I certainly <v Speaker 1>appreciate Wendy and bree support with the channel. This is <v Speaker 1>my first North Carolina story, and I hope to receive <v Speaker 1>many more. If you have had a bigfoot encounter and <v Speaker 1>want to be on the show, please email me at <v Speaker 1>Sasquatch Theory at alllook dot com. If you enjoy this <v Speaker 1>type of content, please like and subscribe and be sure <v Speaker 1>to hit the bell notification to stay up to date <v Speaker 1>with all my future videos. All right, everyone, let's dive <v Speaker 1>into this next bigfoot story from North Carolina. All Right, Wendy, <v Speaker 1>welcome Sasquatch Theory. I appreciate you being on the show. <v Speaker 1>We've been talking for a while and I'm glad to <v Speaker 1>finally have you on. <v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And you've been having activity in North Carolina? Correct? <v Speaker 2>Yes? Central? <v Speaker 1>Okay, so the central area, and yes, this has been <v Speaker 1>happening on your mother's property correct. <v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, well for quite a while. <v Speaker 1>Okay, can you kind of tell us how you started <v Speaker 1>noticing the activity and what happened in the very beginning <v Speaker 1>all the way up until now. <v Speaker 3>Well, I grew up in this small town, and we <v Speaker 3>always noticed a something in the woods. My dad had <v Speaker 3>actually cut a trail through there so we could walk <v Speaker 3>through there, walk our dogs and stuff like that, and <v Speaker 3>it was always something there. And then one day I <v Speaker 3>was just when I was younger, I was walking through <v Speaker 3>the woods with my dog and I just felt something. <v Speaker 3>It was paralleling me, and it would stop when I <v Speaker 3>would stop, and when i'd start walking and walk. And <v Speaker 3>my dog was a big dog and she's never scared <v Speaker 3>of anything, and she was scared to death. She was <v Speaker 3>ready to get out of there. So that was the <v Speaker 3>first thing. <v Speaker 2>You know. And then other things. <v Speaker 3>My mom had a horse. He never would go down <v Speaker 3>into the corner of the pasture. He would always, you know, <v Speaker 3>you try to call him down there, didn't matter, He's <v Speaker 3>not going. <v Speaker 2>To go over there. So it's just different things. <v Speaker 3>And then just recently, you know, I just decided I've <v Speaker 3>been watching a lot of bigfoot stuff and I always <v Speaker 3>knew something was down there, and I kept thinking maybe <v Speaker 3>his bigfoot. <v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, small town, but you. <v Speaker 3>Never know, we're surrounded by water all around, so you <v Speaker 3>know it's a possibility. So one day, this was a <v Speaker 3>spring when it started, we walked down in the back <v Speaker 3>and down the trail and it started seeing signs, arches, x'es, <v Speaker 3>just lots of things. And so I can tell my mama, <v Speaker 3>I really think they're here. You know, you just feel something, <v Speaker 3>you know, something that you know is there. So so <v Speaker 3>storry from there. <v Speaker 1>And can you can you describe the structures that you found. <v Speaker 1>I know you sent me pictures of them, and the <v Speaker 1>photos are amazing. I mean, I believe it to be <v Speaker 1>Sasquatch son. <v Speaker 2>Well. <v Speaker 3>Some of the structures are like arches, a lot of arches, <v Speaker 3>some arches over the pathway. You have to also it's <v Speaker 3>kind of like a star structure. That's like they're all <v Speaker 3>intertwined together. It kind of looks like a star. The <v Speaker 3>biggest one that I have found that really intrigues me <v Speaker 3>the most is the one that I sent you a <v Speaker 3>picture of that's in the path. <v Speaker 2>That they had laid out too parallel. <v Speaker 3>Then across that two more and then they had like <v Speaker 3>this stick that had like a V on it. Now <v Speaker 3>I've tried, I've tried to look up the you know, <v Speaker 3>the Y symbol and stuff, and a lot of people. <v Speaker 3>One girl on another show it said something about that <v Speaker 3>the hy represented friendship. <v Speaker 1>So I don't know which structure do you get the most? <v Speaker 1>Would you say the arches? <v Speaker 3>The arches with sticks over across them trying to hold <v Speaker 3>them down? <v Speaker 1>Okay? And I also wanted to mention that in my area, <v Speaker 1>I find the same things as you as far as <v Speaker 1>like the structures and you know, like x's and stuff <v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, they may not be identical, but <v Speaker 1>there's certain similarities. Would you agree with that? <v Speaker 3>Yes, they're very simple, you know, similar to ours. Yours <v Speaker 3>are probably a little bit bigger than ours, more massive. <v Speaker 3>Iurs are not as uh, but then again, we don't <v Speaker 3>have like really really big trees here. I mean we <v Speaker 3>have pine trees and oak trees and stuff like that. <v Speaker 3>But you know, there's simpler structures. <v Speaker 1>And which that's where you're finding the structures is in <v Speaker 1>the pine forest, right? <v Speaker 2>No? <v Speaker 3>Actually no, actually there's beside my mom's house. There's this <v Speaker 3>little area, pretty big area. It's all pine trees. They <v Speaker 3>just were small and they just grew up and but <v Speaker 3>don't see a lot there. They hide there and they <v Speaker 3>watch us from there, But I've never gone into the <v Speaker 3>pine area to see any structures or anything like that. <v Speaker 3>They do use the the pine branches, they'll I've seen <v Speaker 3>them all in the path where they drop them, where <v Speaker 3>they're like building their beds or something like that, but <v Speaker 3>where we can only go so far back because they <v Speaker 3>just I don't know, you just get this feeling they <v Speaker 3>don't want you to go but so far right. It's <v Speaker 3>kind of weird, but you know, it's like an instinct <v Speaker 3>kind of thing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, So after you started discovering the structures, what'd you <v Speaker 1>do from there? <v Speaker 3>We started leaving food out like a gifting area. So <v Speaker 3>we went down one day to try to pick out <v Speaker 3>an area to start leaving food. And we started leaving <v Speaker 3>simple things at first, like apples, just different, you know, <v Speaker 3>small things, and so we would wait maybe two or <v Speaker 3>three days and we'd go down and the stuff would <v Speaker 3>be gone. So then we started using other things like <v Speaker 3>peanut butter, and we had a bucket that we put <v Speaker 3>this stuff in. So I figured, well, it's gonna have <v Speaker 3>to be something big that can actually reach in the <v Speaker 3>bucket and pick a heavy peanut butter jar out to <v Speaker 3>get it out, because there's nothing in our area. Bears <v Speaker 3>are very very rare around where we live, but we <v Speaker 3>do have like raccoon pots and stuff like that. But <v Speaker 3>still there's nothing any you know, big enough to go <v Speaker 3>in the bucket and grab it out. So we took <v Speaker 3>this stuff down with more apples. They don't seem to <v Speaker 3>like grapes too much in my area. I don't know <v Speaker 3>why they just throw them out of the bucket. They <v Speaker 3>don't like them. Let's see, peanut. <v Speaker 1>Now you're testing your theory, like you believe that there <v Speaker 1>could be sasquatches in there, and you're gifting them and <v Speaker 1>leaving them food just to see what happens. <v Speaker 3>Exactly, because at this point we don't really know if <v Speaker 3>it's them or there's another animal or what. So I <v Speaker 3>took a bucket and I tied it. The area where <v Speaker 3>we leave stuff is it's like a big This tree <v Speaker 3>has like this big arch that goes over, and so <v Speaker 3>I took some belling string which is pretty strong, and <v Speaker 3>I tied the bucket up off of the ground, but <v Speaker 3>low enough where something small can't get in it would <v Speaker 3>have a really hard time getting out of it. So <v Speaker 3>I figure, okay, this is a good test right here. <v Speaker 3>So we leave the peanut butter and so we wait <v Speaker 3>another two or three days because I work. I'm a nurse, <v Speaker 3>so I have you know, I can't go every day <v Speaker 3>to my mom. So we would wait a couple of days, <v Speaker 3>and when I was off, I would go over there, <v Speaker 3>and so we'd walk down because I did not want <v Speaker 3>my mom. You know, she's seventy eight, so I don't <v Speaker 3>want her walking down there by herself, because we do <v Speaker 3>have Cody and Foxes and stuff like that around or <v Speaker 3>else she lives. So we went down and the peanut <v Speaker 3>butter jar was out of the bucket and the lid <v Speaker 3>was off of it. We didn't want to put the <v Speaker 3>lid too tight at first so they could learn how <v Speaker 3>to take the lid off. But they did take the <v Speaker 3>lid off and the jar actually was gone. So we <v Speaker 3>were really excited because we're like, Okay, it's got to <v Speaker 3>be them. I mean, there's nothing that can reach you <v Speaker 3>in the bucket unless there's a homeless person living in <v Speaker 3>my mom's woods or something like that. It's the only <v Speaker 3>way we knew that that was them. It had to <v Speaker 3>be them. They did not make any noises every time <v Speaker 3>I would leave something, though I would knock on the tree, <v Speaker 3>you know, just to let them know, sort of kind <v Speaker 3>of a communication thing where they knew we were back <v Speaker 3>there and that we. <v Speaker 2>Left food for them. <v Speaker 3>My mom can whistle really really well, and so I <v Speaker 3>started getting harassed and just whistle so they'll know that, <v Speaker 3>you know, we're here and it's us. So we started <v Speaker 3>like routine when we go back every maybe I don't know, <v Speaker 3>every four or five days. We want to impose on <v Speaker 3>them and make it seem like we were intruding on them, <v Speaker 3>you know, because this is their house, you know, and <v Speaker 3>it's like walking in somebody's home, you know, when they're <v Speaker 3>not there, and then they you know what I mean. <v Speaker 3>So we wanted to give them privacy and we didn't <v Speaker 3>want to run them off either where they fell insecure <v Speaker 3>about being in our area. So we did this for <v Speaker 3>a while. I wouldn't see a lot of new structures, <v Speaker 3>but it's almost like when we kept thinking, Okay, well <v Speaker 3>maybe they're not here, something would pop up like it's <v Speaker 3>they can read your mind, like they know you're doubting <v Speaker 3>them being there. So that's when we went down one <v Speaker 3>day and we saw the structure that was in the path. <v Speaker 3>I walked that path every other day, I know it's <v Speaker 3>down there, and they had built a structure in the path, <v Speaker 3>and I looked at my mom and her eyes are <v Speaker 3>so big. We couldn't believe it that they actually build <v Speaker 3>a structure right there in the path. Still don't know <v Speaker 3>to this day what it represents, what it means. I've <v Speaker 3>talked to a couple of people and they think that <v Speaker 3>it could possibly be like a marker for the younger ones. <v Speaker 3>That they can't go any further than that, it could <v Speaker 3>be a marker just let any of us know that, <v Speaker 3>you know, yes, we're here, you just don't ever know. <v Speaker 3>And we have gotten like, you know, stick messages that <v Speaker 3>they've like broken the sticks and they've actually been placed. <v Speaker 3>I mean, you know that it's not going to fall <v Speaker 3>from the tree. And you got seven pieces of stick <v Speaker 3>that were laid out in one area where you know, <v Speaker 3>nothing's been there before, and they lay this stuff out. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>I've taken pictures of that. I've sent those to you too, <v Speaker 3>of that. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like if they were trying to communicate, <v Speaker 1>it would be most likely with the humans, because if <v Speaker 1>they were going to leave a sign, it would be <v Speaker 1>in the forest, you know, not right in the middle <v Speaker 1>of a human path, so I feel like it's directed <v Speaker 1>towards you and your mom. <v Speaker 2>Yes, we do. We're the only ones that go down there. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 3>My nephew thinks we're crazy and that there are no <v Speaker 3>big foot around here. It's probably a bear, and we <v Speaker 3>know there's no bear. Never in the twenty some years <v Speaker 3>that I was raised there never saw a bear on <v Speaker 3>the property ever. Yeah, so I know it has to <v Speaker 3>be them, and I think they've been back there for <v Speaker 3>a long time. It's just that when my dad got <v Speaker 3>really sick, he had lung cancer, my parents moved their <v Speaker 3>house across the street. <v Speaker 2>My dad, he has a lot of property. <v Speaker 3>So he moved it back to that area where he <v Speaker 3>had made the path. And of course we have a <v Speaker 3>you know, a fence up and everything where we because <v Speaker 3>my mom at the time she still had horses and <v Speaker 3>stuff and so so. And then one day it's like <v Speaker 3>my knees to come over and she was trying to <v Speaker 3>get my mom's horse to go to that corner, and <v Speaker 3>my mom kept telling her he's not gonna go over there. <v Speaker 3>And time they got right to the spot, he just <v Speaker 3>bolted and turned around and ran back to the barn. <v Speaker 3>So that's another thing in animals, you could really read <v Speaker 3>off of them more. You know, they have more sense. <v Speaker 3>You know, they're a sense of smell, hearing everything is <v Speaker 3>you know, it's like he knew something was back there. <v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh, for. <v Speaker 1>Sure, especially horses or dogs, they know. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do, you know, just like with my dog <v Speaker 3>that day was you know, petrified and I'm like, man, <v Speaker 3>she's never been like that, you know, because it's a <v Speaker 3>rock whiler and they're big dogs. <v Speaker 1>And so can you describe the activity that you're experiencing <v Speaker 1>while you're finding the structures. I mean, are you hearing <v Speaker 1>like stick's break or anything going on while you're going <v Speaker 1>back in there other than a feeling? <v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now the first year last year, we didn't really <v Speaker 3>they get a lot of like no communication as far <v Speaker 3>as them. Occasionally we would hear like wood knocks, but <v Speaker 3>they would be kind of far in the back. So <v Speaker 3>that's why I know that they live like further deeper <v Speaker 3>into the woods. And I think they ours do migrate. <v Speaker 3>They're not here in the wintertime. They leave around October <v Speaker 3>and then they usually come back about April. You know, <v Speaker 3>there's a big question about you know, a lot of <v Speaker 3>people say, oh, no, they don't migrate, And I'm not <v Speaker 3>saying all of them do it or something that probably <v Speaker 3>saund the property they're at for, you know, for years, <v Speaker 3>but ours do migrate. I think it's a smaller group. <v Speaker 3>So I think that in the winter they meet up <v Speaker 3>with a larger group and then ours come back in <v Speaker 3>the spring. My mom and I put all this Yeah, <v Speaker 3>my mom and I put all this stuff together, you know, <v Speaker 3>but it takes a while because they're very very cautious <v Speaker 3>of humans. I mean, they're just they don't want to <v Speaker 3>have anything to do with us really until you start <v Speaker 3>making a connection with them. You know, like I said, <v Speaker 3>they started out, they wouldn't really communicate, but they knew. <v Speaker 2>It's kind of like they knew that we knew. <v Speaker 3>They were there, kind of like an understanding, but they <v Speaker 3>would not communicate. Now, the first year, my mom was <v Speaker 3>having a lot of issues with coyote. It's got to <v Speaker 3>the point where she couldn't even go outside. She was <v Speaker 3>scared to take her little dogs out. And you know, <v Speaker 3>like I said, my mom was older, so you know, <v Speaker 3>I didn't like that. You know, they could attack her <v Speaker 3>very easily and you know, do some major damage and <v Speaker 3>not kill her. And so she was getting very frustrated <v Speaker 3>about that, and we it was July fourth and my <v Speaker 3>mom was sitting down on the back and this is <v Speaker 3>the first time a coty actually had rushed the fence <v Speaker 3>at my mom's dog, and she went run over there <v Speaker 3>with a whistle because people told him, you know, make <v Speaker 3>a lot of noise and they'll run away. But this <v Speaker 3>one was not going to run away. He was very aggressive, <v Speaker 3>and so my mom grabbed her dogs and went back <v Speaker 3>in the house. And then the next day never saw <v Speaker 3>another cody from that day after, So we think they <v Speaker 3>were watching what was going on and they knew the <v Speaker 3>cody was of danger to my mom, and so we <v Speaker 3>think that the bigfoot got rid of the cody. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very possible. I hear from people, you know, <v Speaker 1>they have like their dogs eaten, you know, by the <v Speaker 1>by bigfoot, they claim, And you know, I've had dogs <v Speaker 1>go missing in this area too. But I think it's <v Speaker 1>possible that they might like to eat dogs because there's <v Speaker 1>coyotes in the forest and that could be on the menu. <v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised, because nobody really knows. The only <v Speaker 3>way we know certain things they like is by them <v Speaker 3>taking it. But there are certain things they don't like. <v Speaker 3>They don't like oranges, don't know why they have no <v Speaker 3>use for those, and they do not like grapes. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>but pretty much everything else you can you can. It's <v Speaker 3>like a test with them. You know, you take stuff, <v Speaker 3>they'll take it, or they won't take it. Majority of <v Speaker 3>the stuff they do take, you know, as far as <v Speaker 3>you know. And my mom, she loves animals and she's always, <v Speaker 3>you know, let's get them this and that, and you know, <v Speaker 3>we tried a stuffed animal thing and I actually ordered <v Speaker 3>one off Amazon. It's like a it looks just like <v Speaker 3>a bigfoot. So it's at the end of the year <v Speaker 3>the first year. <v Speaker 1>What happened with that? <v Speaker 3>They took it and a blanket. They took both of them. <v Speaker 3>Because we went back there after about two days. We're <v Speaker 3>really curious to see whether they took the blanket and <v Speaker 3>the stuffed animal. And I put it pretty hig up <v Speaker 3>in the tree where it'd be hard for a cody <v Speaker 3>or anything else to get it out of the tree. <v Speaker 3>So we went back the first two days it was <v Speaker 3>still there, and I'm thinking my mom was like real upset, <v Speaker 3>and I'm like gonna be upset. I said, you got <v Speaker 3>to understand they don't think like we do. You got <v Speaker 3>to think like them. They're animal, I mean, they're half human. <v Speaker 3>I think they're very highly intelligent. They may not really <v Speaker 3>know what that is or what it's for, you know, <v Speaker 3>so maybe we should explain to them when we're out there, <v Speaker 3>you know what it is. So my mom would tell them, <v Speaker 3>you know what it is. And we went back two <v Speaker 3>days after that and the stuff was gone. They took <v Speaker 3>both of them and I haven't seen it. Yeah, I <v Speaker 3>haven't seen it anywhere because I travel kind of like <v Speaker 3>in the distance into the woods to see if maybe <v Speaker 3>they just dragged it off and they just you know, <v Speaker 3>didn't really want it. Can't find it anywhere stuffed animal either. <v Speaker 1>Okay, can you they like glitter balls too? Could you <v Speaker 1>describe the gifting process, like how often do you gift <v Speaker 1>and how often you get responses back from the bigfoots? <v Speaker 3>Okay, the first year we got no responses at all, <v Speaker 3>except for just new structures to let us know that <v Speaker 3>you know that they got they you know, got the <v Speaker 3>gifts very quiet the first year. I guess they were <v Speaker 3>trying to size us up and see if we were <v Speaker 3>really you know, trying to you know, do any intentional <v Speaker 3>harm to them or you know, call somebody in. But <v Speaker 3>we've never put up trail cams. I've always been afraid <v Speaker 3>to do that. But the gift and process we go <v Speaker 3>like we try to do it at least once a week. <v Speaker 3>You know, you should establish a pattern so they kind <v Speaker 3>of know when you're going to bring stuff. Now, I've <v Speaker 3>heard from other people that once you start the gift <v Speaker 3>and process that if you miss it and they know <v Speaker 3>they watch, and that if you miss a day, that <v Speaker 3>they will let you know. You know, they'll do something, <v Speaker 3>you know, not aggressively toward us, but they I think <v Speaker 3>they do get angry, you know, get mad you know <v Speaker 3>about things. I think they're like kids in a way, <v Speaker 3>you know, like shut they didn't bring us anything today. <v Speaker 3>They're supposed to bring us stuff today, you know, but no, <v Speaker 3>just once a week. Once a week we would take <v Speaker 3>stuff down. And then this is the first year because <v Speaker 3>again we're not getting communication from them except for just <v Speaker 3>new structures we would find down the path and stuff <v Speaker 3>like that. The second years were this year is where <v Speaker 3>we got lots of activity and lots of things happened. <v Speaker 3>But I will say at the end of the first year, <v Speaker 3>my mom is just like wanting to see one so bad. <v Speaker 2>So that day. <v Speaker 1>At this point, you're are you gifting every day though? <v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, no, no once a week. <v Speaker 1>You're still doing it once a week. <v Speaker 3>No, we do it more than once a week. Now, <v Speaker 3>we do it like, uh, maybe every three days, three <v Speaker 3>or four days. Okay, my mom has we made a <v Speaker 3>new gifting area that's closer to the house, but it's <v Speaker 3>still inside the woods where they're covered. Because my mom <v Speaker 3>felt like that if it was too far out, that <v Speaker 3>we be trapping them and trying to catch them, so <v Speaker 3>we put it a little bit in the woods. <v Speaker 1>At this point, you're trying to build their trust basically, yes, <v Speaker 1>and have them no never never, you know, trying to <v Speaker 1>set up a trail camera or just something to get evidence. <v Speaker 2>Okay, no, I have not. <v Speaker 3>I'm afraid to do it right now because I feel <v Speaker 3>like it would just throw the complete trust thing out <v Speaker 3>the window. All everything we worked so hard for. All <v Speaker 3>that takes is to put up one camera and they'll <v Speaker 3>they'll leave. I think they would leave because they feel <v Speaker 3>in their mind that we're trying to trap them. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with evidence. So do you think that's <v Speaker 1>the key to getting the activity and getting them to <v Speaker 1>come up to the gift basket and yep, eat. <v Speaker 3>Yes, in my opinion, yes, because I feel like they <v Speaker 3>have built a trust with us and they know at <v Speaker 3>this point that we're not going to do anything to <v Speaker 3>harm them or you know, try to trap them and <v Speaker 3>get pictures of them. <v Speaker 2>They're pretty smart. <v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, they watch us all day, you know, <v Speaker 3>out in the pines. <v Speaker 2>They do. Now. <v Speaker 3>You know, at first, I don't know how much they <v Speaker 3>watch my mom's hose, but they watched it enough that <v Speaker 3>they knew that coyote was really upsetting my mother to <v Speaker 3>the point that they got rid of it. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>That's just strange, you know that. It's like my mom <v Speaker 3>calls them our property watchdogs. Yeah, because they're always constantly <v Speaker 3>looking out for things. You know, like they know my <v Speaker 3>vehicle when it comes. <v Speaker 2>Just different things. <v Speaker 3>They know when I'm there, you know, because they know <v Speaker 3>when they see me, Okay, they're going to get something <v Speaker 3>to eat most of the time, so they you know, <v Speaker 3>kind of put that into Okay, there's the rig car, <v Speaker 3>so that's you know, that's Wendy. She's coming to bring <v Speaker 3>us food. Yeah, it's kind of funny. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. <v Speaker 3>But you do have to have a kind of a <v Speaker 3>it's a respect thing too between us and them. I mean, <v Speaker 3>you have to respect their privacy, just like we would want, <v Speaker 3>you know, not to be invaded by other people just <v Speaker 3>sitting there watching us stuff. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 3>So it's a mutual thing that you start having with them. <v Speaker 3>And I don't think they're no matter of no amount <v Speaker 3>of money could make me turn them in and just <v Speaker 3>get famous just because you know they're there. I would <v Speaker 3>never do that, Yeah, because you know, when you come <v Speaker 3>to this point in such a communication level with them <v Speaker 3>that you know they understand you, they they know who <v Speaker 3>you are. They you know, it's like they respect you, <v Speaker 3>we respect them kind of thing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes sense. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I do think that the alpha male and <v Speaker 3>the females, the older ones, I don't think they come <v Speaker 3>up to the house. And they may come up at <v Speaker 3>night and stuff like that now, but before it's always <v Speaker 3>we're we're interacting with juveniles. They're not the big ones <v Speaker 3>at all. I think they stay in the back. They <v Speaker 3>don't come up close to the front. We just figured <v Speaker 3>that out this year. <v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, and if if you could just tell us <v Speaker 1>more about the experiences lots, Yeah, I know, you do. <v Speaker 3>Let's see, Uh, we could start with this year because <v Speaker 3>there's a lot of things that happened this year. Like <v Speaker 3>I said, when we would go to the gifting area, <v Speaker 3>we would always do a knock and my mom would whistle. Well, <v Speaker 3>this year they started whistling back and they sound just <v Speaker 3>like my mom. I mean a single whistle. And there's <v Speaker 3>two of them. We know there's two of them out there. <v Speaker 3>The oldest one we call Kong, and he's pretty big. <v Speaker 3>My mom actually saw him at the end of the <v Speaker 3>year last year. She said, when she was coming home <v Speaker 3>down her path. He was at the end where the <v Speaker 3>woods are, and she's he had pushed a bush down <v Speaker 3>so she could see him. It's almost like he wanted <v Speaker 3>her to see him, you know. It's like all our <v Speaker 3>struggles a whole, you know, last year of you know, <v Speaker 3>giving them food and trying to communicate with them. It's <v Speaker 3>almost like he was saying, here I am, You're right, <v Speaker 3>we do exist, you know, And he said he wouldn't <v Speaker 3>move at all. She just stopped her jeep and she <v Speaker 3>just stared, like, am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? <v Speaker 2>You know, like most people do. <v Speaker 3>They're like your brain can't really wrap around the whole <v Speaker 3>actual thing of seeing one, you know, and my mom <v Speaker 3>described things very big, broad shoulder, doesn't have really as <v Speaker 3>much of a neck, said his head was not as <v Speaker 3>pointed as some people talk about, but she said he <v Speaker 3>was just so dark. <v Speaker 2>She couldn't really see any features on him. <v Speaker 3>They said that he was really just look like a linebacker. <v Speaker 2>He was so big. <v Speaker 3>And then when she went in and she partnered Jeep, <v Speaker 3>she kind of walked back out to look over there. <v Speaker 3>She said, I swear I'm gonna find out if if <v Speaker 3>I saw what I saw, nothing was there. He had <v Speaker 3>already left. He just, yeah, my mom still talks about <v Speaker 3>that to this day. <v Speaker 1>So he let your mom see in pretty much. <v Speaker 3>Yes, I think though that's on their own that I <v Speaker 3>think they could show theirselves at any time to us, <v Speaker 3>But I think it's their choice, and he knew. <v Speaker 2>I don't know. <v Speaker 3>I have this thing about, you know, like I'm gonna <v Speaker 3>be scared if I've ever saw one, because they're so big, <v Speaker 3>and you know, we just I think they know that <v Speaker 3>we they can feel, you know, our fear about that <v Speaker 3>about how big they are. And I don't think they <v Speaker 3>really want to scare us. And I think that's how <v Speaker 3>he showed himself to my mom because my mom was <v Speaker 3>inside her vehicle, you know, you feel kind of safe <v Speaker 3>inside something, and he just wanted her. <v Speaker 2>To see him. Oh wow, yeah, it was really cool. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I bet that was intense. <v Speaker 3>Now, I did see a smaller one the first year. <v Speaker 3>I think she mainly we were on our way down <v Speaker 3>to the gift and area to leave food. <v Speaker 2>And this is true. <v Speaker 3>You know, I've heard other people on your shows talk about, <v Speaker 3>you know, like with us, it has to be moving <v Speaker 3>for us to even see it, you know, like a flicker. <v Speaker 3>And I kept seeing this flicker. My eye caughts left <v Speaker 3>and I looked and I told my mama, said stop, <v Speaker 3>don't move any further. And all of a sudden, I <v Speaker 3>saw a flickering and it came out and dodged back, <v Speaker 3>but it was on. <v Speaker 2>All fours and did not have a tail. <v Speaker 3>It was kind of a silver color mingled, and then <v Speaker 3>it ran straight back to the back of the woods <v Speaker 3>like it was super fast. You know, I hear people's talk, <v Speaker 3>you know, like they say, it's like a ninja. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>it's just like a ninja. They are that fast. I mean, <v Speaker 3>it was unbelievable how fast they were and My heart <v Speaker 3>was just pounding, and I was like, oh my god, <v Speaker 3>I can't believe I just saw what I think I saw. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're extremely fast. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you don't even realize how fast they are. <v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just unbelievable. <v Speaker 2>How fast. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes you wonder that, like the people that <v Speaker 1>have the sightings of them moving, can they move even <v Speaker 1>faster than that? Is that what they're doing the whole <v Speaker 1>time around us? <v Speaker 3>I think that when they're on all fours, they can <v Speaker 3>really up some speed pretty fast. <v Speaker 2>I think just too. <v Speaker 3>I think they run really fast and then they power <v Speaker 3>drive it like they just throw their hands down and <v Speaker 3>do another like just you know how like when you <v Speaker 3>hit the gas, they take their arms in. I think <v Speaker 3>they just push off even you know, to go faster. <v Speaker 3>Yeah the oh yeah yeah. <v Speaker 1>How quiet they are? <v Speaker 3>I know, but you know I think too. You know, <v Speaker 3>they have very wide feet, they can be silent. <v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, people talk about the spiritual <v Speaker 2>end of them. <v Speaker 3>I think they're kind of spiritual creatures, but I think <v Speaker 3>they're they're flesh and blood and if you shot them, <v Speaker 3>they're going to bleed. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. Now, do you think that they're like <v Speaker 1>an ice age creature that still exists, or do you <v Speaker 1>think it's something deeper like what Enoch talked about. I <v Speaker 1>don't know if you ever heard of the Book of <v Speaker 1>Enoch or kind of like the Fallen Angels giants being <v Speaker 1>born from right from breeding with women. <v Speaker 3>And I think that might possibly be what they are. <v Speaker 3>I'm not sure. I mean, God could have created them <v Speaker 3>and put them here and they've just been they stay <v Speaker 3>so far back away from civilization that that's why nobody. <v Speaker 2>Hunters are the only ones that really that. <v Speaker 3>When you hear stories, it's always most you know, mostly <v Speaker 3>hunters who tell the stories about spotting them, you know, <v Speaker 3>So that's why I don't think, Yeah, they stay far back. <v Speaker 1>Okay, And you've never experienced like orbs or any paranormal activity. <v Speaker 3>No, actually no, okay, none at all. Now you gotta <v Speaker 3>I gotta remind you. We don't go out at night <v Speaker 3>down there. We did it one time this year and <v Speaker 3>it scares pretty bad. <v Speaker 2>So we were running back at the house. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's two females. <v Speaker 3>You know, there's no males there, so it's kind of <v Speaker 3>you know, you don't have that extra It's like, okay, <v Speaker 3>I'm gonna stay out here. You know, yeah, probably, yeah, <v Speaker 3>you know, because you still don't know really the capability, <v Speaker 3>you know, of what they can do. I mean, they <v Speaker 3>could take us out like lightning. I mean, if they <v Speaker 3>really wanted to kill us, they would have. I think <v Speaker 3>they would have already done away with us if they <v Speaker 3>felt threatened b us. But there's no threat there and <v Speaker 3>they know that that we're not gonna you know, we're <v Speaker 3>not gonna hurt them or anything. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I wanted to touch back on the whistling. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, how many times have you actually heard the whistling? <v Speaker 1>Wats lots? Okay, so it's a frequenting very. <v Speaker 3>They whistled a lot, like we would take food down <v Speaker 3>and we would whistle. My mom would let them know <v Speaker 3>we're going down, and she would always she always talks <v Speaker 3>to them. It's I really think they understand what she's saying. <v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you may have some viewers that say, yeah, okay, right. <v Speaker 3>I do think they understand a lot of things. I <v Speaker 3>think they've watched us more than what people think they do. <v Speaker 3>They're I think they're very curious with us, and same <v Speaker 3>as you know we. <v Speaker 2>Are of them. <v Speaker 1>But the body language of anything, if they don't understand. <v Speaker 1>You know, they understand. I agree communication from body language, yes. <v Speaker 2>I agree with that. But this year has been a <v Speaker 2>lot of activity they have. <v Speaker 3>They whistle every time we take something down. My mom <v Speaker 3>would always whistle to them and so and then when <v Speaker 3>we got back up we'd been down the back deck, <v Speaker 3>they would whistle back and let us know that they <v Speaker 3>got their stuff. <v Speaker 2>Now, mind you, there's two of them. <v Speaker 3>There's an older male and then there's a younger one <v Speaker 3>that we think is a female. We call her Silver <v Speaker 3>Bell because you know, she's the one I saw last <v Speaker 3>year that was running super freaking fast. And you know, <v Speaker 3>it's like all I saw was like silver and some <v Speaker 3>black and that was it. <v Speaker 2>It was just too fast. <v Speaker 3>My brain could not even hardly comprehend what I was <v Speaker 3>even looking at that was that fast. So we know <v Speaker 3>there's two of them, the juveniles that come up, and <v Speaker 3>so we started this whistling thing. And it's just a pattern. <v Speaker 3>You know, every day my mom would come up, go out, <v Speaker 3>let her dogs out. You know, she's stand on the deck, <v Speaker 3>and they would whistle at her. So they would care <v Speaker 3>on a conversation by whistling. And I sent you that <v Speaker 3>audio two of them whistling back and forth, and they <v Speaker 3>sound my mom sounds just they sound just like my <v Speaker 3>mom's whistle. It's unbelievable how similar the two are. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a loud, powerful whistle for sure. <v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, my mom can really whistle very loud. <v Speaker 1>Well, I mean even the bigfoot, like it'll get your atta. <v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They whistled so close to her. <v Speaker 3>A couple of weeks ago, they started venturing over her <v Speaker 3>to We had a small section of woods on the <v Speaker 3>left side of her property, and they started going over <v Speaker 3>there a lot. I would tell you that story shortly <v Speaker 3>because it's pretty interesting how they learn how by watching you. <v Speaker 3>They mimic a lot of things that you do. But <v Speaker 3>with the whistling thing, the pattern, you know, you start <v Speaker 3>off with a really good pattern. You know, it's almost <v Speaker 3>like you can guess exactly what's gonna happen with them. Well, <v Speaker 3>all of a sudden this year, getting close to the <v Speaker 3>end of the year, when they getting ready to leave, <v Speaker 3>they're still here. They stopped whistling for like twelve days. <v Speaker 3>My mom thought they had left, or we were trying <v Speaker 3>to figure out maybe they went out hunting somewhere further away. <v Speaker 3>We didn't really know, but I figured out that with <v Speaker 3>them whistling all the time, my mom, my mom would <v Speaker 3>she started feeding like every two days. I said, Mom, <v Speaker 3>you got you can't do that feeding them like that. <v Speaker 3>But they're they're asking for food, and I said, I <v Speaker 3>know that, but you can't just start getting to them <v Speaker 3>every time they want something. They're always gonna want something, <v Speaker 3>you know. And so all of a sudden, the whistling stopped, <v Speaker 3>and so we're trying to figure it out, like why <v Speaker 3>do they stop whistling? This is just so unusual when <v Speaker 3>you know, I told you about it, and it's like, <v Speaker 3>that's so strange that they've been doing it. And you're like, well, <v Speaker 3>they can change patterns on you in a heartbeat, which <v Speaker 3>they did, you know. But I think the alpha male <v Speaker 3>saw what they were doing about asking for food, and <v Speaker 3>they got in trouble for it. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 3>It's kind of like, you know, when you're younger, you <v Speaker 3>get get in a lot of trouble for doing something <v Speaker 3>you shouldn't have been doing, you know. So, yeah, so <v Speaker 3>they start whistling and so, and we didn't leave anything <v Speaker 3>down there for you know, maybe five or six days. <v Speaker 3>Then my mom said, I'm gonna leave something to see <v Speaker 3>if they're still here. So we left something and back <v Speaker 3>up went on the back porch, and they whistled probably <v Speaker 3>three times. <v Speaker 2>Now. <v Speaker 3>The only time we get a whistle from them now <v Speaker 3>is if we leave food for them. It's like they've <v Speaker 3>been taught that, told that you can't don't beg for food, <v Speaker 3>you know kind of thing. So I think they have <v Speaker 3>they have manners too, you know, they raise their kids. <v Speaker 3>You know that, you don't you know, do that, you <v Speaker 3>know kind of thing. So they stop whistling and they <v Speaker 3>will only whistle whenever, you know, my mom, you know, <v Speaker 3>when we would go and leave things down for him <v Speaker 3>in the bucket. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting. I wish mine would whistle like that. <v Speaker 1>I mean, I experienced it, but it was three whistles <v Speaker 1>and it was just one after another. But they've never <v Speaker 1>done it again. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 3>The thing is, you know a lot of people say, <v Speaker 3>it's probably just a bird that lives in your area. Okay, <v Speaker 3>and that's fine. We do have a bird that does <v Speaker 3>whistle like this. But they also have a after call <v Speaker 3>that they do. After the single. They do three whistles <v Speaker 3>in a row and then they do this little chuck <v Speaker 3>chuckle like thing at the end. They just whistled once, <v Speaker 3>and you can tell where they're moving from, cause there <v Speaker 3>is one minute you can hear them at the way <v Speaker 3>on the other side of the pines, you can hear <v Speaker 3>a far away whistle, and then within a second you <v Speaker 3>hear another one. So it's like they're communicating to each <v Speaker 3>other by whistling and given their location. I think it's <v Speaker 3>what they do when they use these, uh you know, <v Speaker 3>whistles or any type of sound. I think they're letting <v Speaker 3>the other one know their location and where they're at. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like I said, it's a it's a pretty <v Speaker 1>powerful whistle. It's loud. It'll get your. <v Speaker 3>Very loud, Yes it does. I mean if I can <v Speaker 3>hear them all the way on the other side of <v Speaker 3>the pines, I mean I can hear it, but it's <v Speaker 3>not like super loud, but you could definitely hear it. <v Speaker 3>I then they move in and you can hear them <v Speaker 3>getting closer and closer. You just can't see them though. <v Speaker 3>It's just amazing how something that big can stay hitting, <v Speaker 3>you know, stay hidden like that. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree. <v Speaker 3>Well, now, this year we had issues with foxes. Okay, <v Speaker 3>you know, my mom kept thinking it was another Cody <v Speaker 3>because it was a little bit one of them was <v Speaker 3>a little bit bigger than with a normal fox. I <v Speaker 3>think fox and codies sometimes will interbreed with each other. <v Speaker 3>So again we're having an issue this year like we <v Speaker 3>did last year with a cody. And so I went <v Speaker 3>out there. You know, I'm like, Mom, it's just a fox. <v Speaker 3>She even got my nephew to come up. We're trying <v Speaker 3>to trap it, you know, because codies are pretty dangerous <v Speaker 3>to open season all the time year round for them. <v Speaker 2>So if you have a. <v Speaker 3>Cody that's on your property causing problems, you you know, <v Speaker 3>you can shoot it. So and that is That's the <v Speaker 3>way it is in North Carolina that I'm aware of. <v Speaker 1>But nobody hunts on this property. Correct, No, my. <v Speaker 2>Mom would not allow any hunting. <v Speaker 3>We've had a lot of people asked to go hunting <v Speaker 3>on the property, but she won't let them go hunting. <v Speaker 2>Because she feeds the deer. <v Speaker 3>And I said, we you know, And I tell Mom, <v Speaker 3>I said, you know that bigfoot eat deer. She said, <v Speaker 3>I know that, but you don't have to keep telling <v Speaker 3>me that. <v Speaker 1>The weird thing is I want to mention this. It's <v Speaker 1>kind of like the whole bigfoot thing is kind of <v Speaker 1>like set up to make you sound crazy, like everything <v Speaker 1>they do from yes, kind of like your where your <v Speaker 1>mom lives, she lives there by herself, so if she <v Speaker 1>goes to tell somebody, it's gonna be hard for them <v Speaker 1>to believe that. Or you know, if you talk about <v Speaker 1>the activity, you know, people say, well, why don't you <v Speaker 1>put up a trail camera. Well, then if you put <v Speaker 1>up the trail camera, they're not going to be there <v Speaker 1>because they're going to see it. Then they're going they're <v Speaker 1>not going to come up like they do exactly. So <v Speaker 1>it's like everything you try to do to prove it <v Speaker 1>kind of just I don't know, it makes it sound like. <v Speaker 2>I think they make you look stupid too. <v Speaker 1>Because it's like we'll take me there, you know, and <v Speaker 1>people say, well I took that person, but nothing happened, <v Speaker 1>you know, because they'll only communicate with that one guy. <v Speaker 1>But you know if he brings other people, now, they're <v Speaker 1>shy and they don't want to communicate. So it's exactly <v Speaker 1>it's all designed to make you. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, exactly, And like I say, I have some <v Speaker 3>people to believe me. Yeah, the majority of people just <v Speaker 3>they smile and you could tell they know that they're <v Speaker 3>thinking you're just so you're full of it, you know <v Speaker 3>that there's yeah, right. I think her and mam are like, <v Speaker 3>you know crazy. My nephew thinks that we've we've lost it. <v Speaker 3>But you know, he went walking at the edge of <v Speaker 3>the woods where the past starts this year and he <v Speaker 3>just stopped and my mom's like, you see something. He's like, <v Speaker 3>it's something's different. It's just not the same. And that's <v Speaker 3>because the woods are so cleared out. I mean it's <v Speaker 3>like there's no you know, growth there, you know, like <v Speaker 3>weeds or like anything in the woods. Up front in <v Speaker 3>the area, there's you know, sticks that are stacked. That's <v Speaker 3>another thing. I don't understand, the stacking of lots of <v Speaker 3>limbs together and they leave them there. It's like they <v Speaker 3>don't do anything with them. So why are they doing that. <v Speaker 2>I don't know. <v Speaker 1>Huh. You'll know if something's different in the forest. And <v Speaker 1>I think that's why you hear a lot of people say, well, <v Speaker 1>I've been out there in the woods all my life <v Speaker 1>and I've never seen anything. Well, when you do see something, <v Speaker 1>you're gonna know it because you've been out there exactly. <v Speaker 2>I agree with that. <v Speaker 3>And again, we're so focused on movement that you're not <v Speaker 3>gonna if they're standing still. They could be five feet <v Speaker 3>from you and you not even know it. I mean, <v Speaker 3>they're that stealthy that they can blend in so well <v Speaker 3>because you're not. I don't know, you're just not looking <v Speaker 3>for it. They know when I go out there, I'm <v Speaker 3>looking for it. My mom she can't hear very well, <v Speaker 3>and you know, she's like, like this year, this is <v Speaker 3>a really interesting story. We went walking further down the <v Speaker 3>path and I said, I just really want to see <v Speaker 3>if they're like maybe building other structures further down and <v Speaker 3>they're just kind of overplated up front. They're it's not <v Speaker 3>gonna make anymore up here. And my mom said, okay. <v Speaker 3>And this is usually when we leave food, we'll you know, <v Speaker 3>kind of walk down. We don't like to go too far. <v Speaker 3>But one day we were walking down the path and <v Speaker 3>all we're pretty far back there as about as far <v Speaker 3>as I wanted to go. All of a sudden I <v Speaker 3>heard this loud like tree like rubbing together. All of <v Speaker 3>a sudden, you heard this crash. I mean it was <v Speaker 3>super loud, and I was there was three sticks that <v Speaker 3>had freshly been broken, and they were stacked right there <v Speaker 3>beside the path, and I reached them. My mad probably <v Speaker 3>could get my phone out because I was gonna take <v Speaker 3>a picture, and that's when the crash happened. <v Speaker 2>And I told my mom, I said, did you hear that? <v Speaker 2>She's like, here what, I'm like. <v Speaker 3>You gotta be kidding me. You did not just hear <v Speaker 3>that loud crash in the woods. I didn't hear anything, Wendy. <v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh my god, Na, I'm starting to say, <v Speaker 3>am I freaking crazy? I know I heard that loud crash. <v Speaker 3>I mean it was so close and that's why hairs <v Speaker 3>went up on my back. And I'm like, nah, we <v Speaker 3>gotta go. I think we've come far enough. We're letting <v Speaker 3>us know this is too far. We can't go any further. <v Speaker 3>So they let you know too how far you should go. <v Speaker 3>They're not scared of doing that at all. Yeah, So <v Speaker 3>we turned around and we went back, and my mom, <v Speaker 3>you know, and I still even tell her today, I'm like, <v Speaker 3>I cannot believe that you did not hear that loud crash. <v Speaker 3>I mean it was tremendous, like so loud, and she <v Speaker 3>didn't even hear it. Now, I've heard other people tell <v Speaker 3>stories like this. There'll be two or three people out <v Speaker 3>together and they'll hear something that's like really loud, and <v Speaker 3>one person's like, I don't hear anything, and you're like, <v Speaker 3>there's no way you cannot have not heard that crash. <v Speaker 2>You know, So that's that's an odd thing. <v Speaker 1>I've heard that a lot too. Really, Yeah, we're someone <v Speaker 1>hear it, yeah, and another person does. <v Speaker 3>Yes, it's crazy. So it's but you know, when you <v Speaker 3>be communicating for so long, you know, when I hear <v Speaker 3>that crash, I'm like, Okay, they don't want us to <v Speaker 3>go any further because I think they come back every <v Speaker 3>year and they're uh, they have their offspring here in <v Speaker 3>the spring and then they stay here in the summer. <v Speaker 3>Raise them up, because that's what I said last last year. <v Speaker 3>The first year was just he was just calm. He <v Speaker 3>was the only one. So maybe that's why he was <v Speaker 3>by himself. You know, he didn't really want to make <v Speaker 3>a big scene because he was by you know that. <v Speaker 3>I think they're like humans too. The more they are together, <v Speaker 3>the braver they are. But when they're single, they're not <v Speaker 3>really gonna try to draw attention to themselves. <v Speaker 2>I guess you could say, m hm. So this year. <v Speaker 3>That's why it's been so different because he has his <v Speaker 3>uh I don't know if it's a sister, nephew whatever <v Speaker 3>with him, but he has a sidekick with him this year. <v Speaker 3>So she's very mischievous, very mischievous. She interacts with us <v Speaker 3>a lot more than he does. Yeah, they've been up <v Speaker 3>close to the house, so close my mom. She can't <v Speaker 3>believe how close they they've come up. But they do <v Speaker 3>like like tapping on the house at night. It is true, <v Speaker 3>they know exactly where you sleep. My mom's her tapping <v Speaker 3>at her bedroom at her window where they tap just recently, <v Speaker 3>probably a week or so ago. It's just probably eight <v Speaker 3>eight o'clock at night. All of a sudden, she heard <v Speaker 3>this loud bang, like right on her front door. I <v Speaker 3>mean she's got like a screened indoor that has the <v Speaker 3>metal at the bottom and it'll rattle, like really make <v Speaker 3>a lot of noise if you, you know, tap on it. <v Speaker 3>And they tapped on it and scare my mom so bad. <v Speaker 3>She's like, cause she'll tell me. I always say, let <v Speaker 3>me know if you hear anything, or I don't care <v Speaker 3>what it is, you just you know, text me let <v Speaker 3>me know or call me or whatever. And she text <v Speaker 3>me then and she's like, something big just hit the <v Speaker 3>outside door. And I'm like what She's like, yes, So <v Speaker 3>I was like, it's like she always locks everything up, <v Speaker 3>so you know, but if they wanted to get in <v Speaker 3>the house, they could get in the house. <v Speaker 2>That's for sure. It wouldn't take much for them to <v Speaker 2>get in if they wanted to. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, have they ever tried to scare you guys, like <v Speaker 1>slap the house pretty hard or scream? You know. <v Speaker 3>They don't scream or make loud noises like that. They <v Speaker 3>mainly do just to whistle. They have hit the side <v Speaker 3>of the house a couple of times, but mainly they <v Speaker 3>just do like light tapping. <v Speaker 2>At night. <v Speaker 3>They usually come out, maybe right before it gets dark. <v Speaker 3>That's when they start coming out. And I stayed at <v Speaker 3>my mom's because I was bound and termin I said, Okay, <v Speaker 3>I know they're out at night time, so I'm gonna <v Speaker 3>we're gonna see. So we would sit down on the <v Speaker 3>back deck and all of a sudden, to the left <v Speaker 3>of us, we heard this loud limb break, like very loud, <v Speaker 3>and my mom's little dogs like looked. We looked, and <v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's that's crazy. I'm like that was something <v Speaker 3>big that stepped on that limb, and we think they <v Speaker 3>had scooted around to the front of the house and <v Speaker 3>came around to the side because we're in the back <v Speaker 3>of the house, so they maneuvered theirselfs around the front <v Speaker 3>and went around the side and accidentally or on purpose, <v Speaker 3>stepped on the limb and made really loud noise. They've <v Speaker 3>done stuff like that, They've never like, I don't know <v Speaker 3>they stay their distance from us, for sure, they definitely do, <v Speaker 3>but I think they watch us. They probably know us <v Speaker 3>better than we know them. Of course, you know, they <v Speaker 3>know our activity, they know what we do during the day. <v Speaker 3>Just all tons of stuff that happened, you know, like <v Speaker 3>the foxes, just that you know, she had a problem <v Speaker 3>with that for over a month and a half and <v Speaker 3>now all of a sudden they're just they just vanished, <v Speaker 3>just like the cavity gone. We haven't seen a fox <v Speaker 3>at all on my mom's property since that incident this year. <v Speaker 1>Mhm. <v Speaker 2>So just they just left. <v Speaker 3>I don't know if they ran them off or or <v Speaker 3>what they did, but just all of a sudden, now <v Speaker 3>there there are no foxes or any anything around the area. <v Speaker 3>And we always know they're there in the woods because <v Speaker 3>the woods. You know, you hear this a lot from <v Speaker 3>people talk about how quiet it is. It's very quiet, <v Speaker 3>like you can hear a pin drop. It's so quiet <v Speaker 3>out there when they're watching us. And we always know <v Speaker 3>they know when we're bringing food up down and we don't. <v Speaker 2>We're not quiet. <v Speaker 3>We're not like trying to sneak up on them, because <v Speaker 3>I don't think you can sneak up on them. <v Speaker 2>We just we talk. <v Speaker 3>Normally when we're walking down there to leave them stuff. <v Speaker 3>My mom's left them like just sartines before. I like, <v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're gonna they're gonna eat that, <v Speaker 3>and my Mom's like, yes, they will, they'll they'll eat that. <v Speaker 3>And to be sure, they pretty much eat anything, eat <v Speaker 3>anything you leave them. Yeah, honey, they love honey jelly, <v Speaker 3>they love brape jelly. <v Speaker 2>We've given them jelly before. <v Speaker 3>It's you know, it's just fun to us just to <v Speaker 3>see whether they're gonna eat something that we take them <v Speaker 3>down there. <v Speaker 1>You know, what's what I know, you don't really have <v Speaker 1>a goal other than you know, trying to leave food <v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. There's no ultimate goal. But what <v Speaker 1>would you do if it went past the gifting stage, <v Speaker 1>and they're willing to show themselves to you and communicate, <v Speaker 1>I mean, like face to face. Would that freak you out? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? <v Speaker 3>I think at first it would kind of freak me out, <v Speaker 3>you know, but if they would like show yourself from <v Speaker 3>a distance and not be like jump out at me, <v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, It's kind of like start <v Speaker 3>from a distance and then moving closer so I could <v Speaker 3>give my brain a chance to take it all in, <v Speaker 3>you know, because even though I know they're there, you <v Speaker 3>don't know exactly what they look like because there's so <v Speaker 3>many types of them, you know, you don't know really <v Speaker 3>their color. We do, though, finally we found out that <v Speaker 3>both of them are a cinnamon kind of reddish color. <v Speaker 3>So we figured that's probably why they hide in the <v Speaker 3>pine so well, because you know, they're kind of like <v Speaker 3>a cinnamon color. <v Speaker 2>Both of them. My mom has seen them. <v Speaker 3>She has this big bay window kind of like you know, <v Speaker 3>bouncing all every place about stories. <v Speaker 2>But you know, it. <v Speaker 3>Pops in your head and then you you know, because <v Speaker 3>there's so much stuff that's happened. They went running across <v Speaker 3>the front and at first my Mom's got this big <v Speaker 3>wind in her couch sits right there, almost right front, <v Speaker 3>so she could see, you know, things that go by shot. <v Speaker 3>You know, she saw this flash go by, and then <v Speaker 3>all of a sudden it went back to the left <v Speaker 3>toward the pines, and she's. <v Speaker 2>Like, was that a deer? That had to be a deer. <v Speaker 3>And then it just came running back across, and this <v Speaker 3>time she got a better look at it because she <v Speaker 3>was really looking out the window. They were on all fours, <v Speaker 3>and I asked, you know, always give me every detail. <v Speaker 3>How big was it on all fours? She wasn't expecting <v Speaker 3>them to be on all fours when I've told her <v Speaker 3>time and time again they they can hunt and stuff <v Speaker 3>on all fours, and she said they were like super fast, <v Speaker 3>but she did. She said their hair was like six <v Speaker 3>inches long. There was no tail, So we rule out <v Speaker 3>there it was not a bear. We only have black <v Speaker 3>bear in North Carolina. We don't have brown bear here <v Speaker 3>that I'm aware of. <v Speaker 2>We don't. <v Speaker 3>Somebody in the comments may say something about, yeah, we <v Speaker 3>have brown bearer, but I just don't think so. Because <v Speaker 3>she said it was twice the size of a bear, <v Speaker 3>of a grown bear, so it's pretty big. So you <v Speaker 3>estimate they were four to five feet off the ground <v Speaker 3>on all fours. So if they stood up, you know, <v Speaker 3>they got to be over seven feet tall, the biggest <v Speaker 3>one and the little one was running right beside she <v Speaker 3>was half the size. So that lets me know that <v Speaker 3>we've been right all along, that there are two of <v Speaker 3>them out there. But yeah, she said their hair was <v Speaker 3>not the color she thought it was. We kept thinking <v Speaker 3>they're going to be black, you know, because my mom <v Speaker 3>saw the dark figure, you know, standing inside the woods. <v Speaker 3>But their fur could have been you know, because they're <v Speaker 3>in the shadows, it could look dark. You know, color <v Speaker 3>can't throw you off. Yeah, especially it was late in <v Speaker 3>the afternoon too, so it was kind of you know, <v Speaker 3>getting darker. <v Speaker 2>But but yeah, she said it was. <v Speaker 3>She said it didn't look madded or she was kind <v Speaker 3>of shiny, like you know, they take care of themselves. <v Speaker 3>They didn't look you know, thrown away like you know, <v Speaker 3>I've heard people say and they see them when their <v Speaker 3>furs all matted up and stuff like that. But she <v Speaker 3>said their fur was you know, like six inches long. <v Speaker 3>It's kind of thick. But she said it didn't lay <v Speaker 3>like flat, you know how deer you know, other animals <v Speaker 3>their fur just lays flat up against them because it <v Speaker 3>was so long. She said it kind of stood out <v Speaker 3>a little bit, like out from their body. Yeah, she said, <v Speaker 3>they went running by, and then they came back by again, <v Speaker 3>and then she didn't see it anymore. <v Speaker 2>And I said, well, that's gets. That's one way of <v Speaker 2>them showing you to let you know that they're there. <v Speaker 3>You know, my mom does not make things up. It's <v Speaker 3>just not in her nature. She's I've never known her <v Speaker 3>to lie about anything. And she just kept thinking about <v Speaker 3>that before she even told me. She said, I really <v Speaker 3>wanted to make sure I knew what I was looking <v Speaker 3>at because I'd never seen anything like that before. And <v Speaker 3>so I said, well, there's there's two of them, So <v Speaker 3>you saw two. She said, I don't understand why they <v Speaker 3>ran back, and then they automatically just turned around and <v Speaker 3>came flying back across the yard over to. <v Speaker 2>The smaller woods. <v Speaker 3>We have found out recently that they've been cutting the <v Speaker 3>water faucet on. They don't cut it off, but they <v Speaker 3>will cut it on. My mom has this covered it. <v Speaker 3>She keeps ouver the waterfaucet, so they would have to <v Speaker 3>have been watching her to know you have to take <v Speaker 3>that off and then cut the water on. They've done <v Speaker 3>this probably four or five times. By doing this, we <v Speaker 3>have a bird of water that's pretty big. And my <v Speaker 3>mom said some morning she'd go out and it's almost <v Speaker 3>all gone, the water out of the bird water. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so they they really enjoy it. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's fascinating to them, you know, to <v Speaker 2>sit there and squirt. I want to say. <v Speaker 3>She heard something like raak across the side of the house, <v Speaker 3>like going where the back door is, and I said, <v Speaker 3>are you sure, maybe that might be where they cut <v Speaker 3>the water hose. <v Speaker 2>They were squirting the water. <v Speaker 3>Hose and it like kind of hit the side of <v Speaker 3>the house, she said, because it was a different sound. <v Speaker 3>She had never heard it before, and it's just kind <v Speaker 3>of like straped. And I'm like hmm, And I thought, well, <v Speaker 3>they they got to know how to cut the you know, <v Speaker 3>the nozzle to the end. So we think this is <v Speaker 3>just a new fascination for them with the water hose. <v Speaker 3>You know, they go over there at night and play <v Speaker 3>with it and then they but they won't cut it off. <v Speaker 3>They don't know how to put something back the way <v Speaker 3>it was the way they you know, found it. You know, <v Speaker 3>they haven't learned that yet. So they they have learned <v Speaker 3>how to do that, which is fascinating that they've had <v Speaker 3>to watch my mama do it. My mom is very <v Speaker 3>routine in her everyday life, so they know exactly where <v Speaker 3>she's going to be at. She feeds the birds at <v Speaker 3>a certain time in the day and then goes out <v Speaker 3>to the front and that's where she heard one whistled, <v Speaker 3>very very loud. She said that she had she jumped <v Speaker 3>because it was so close to her and she was <v Speaker 3>looking into the woods that She's like, I just don't <v Speaker 3>understand it any I don't see anything. They're that steel. <v Speaker 3>I mean, but they've been going over there and they've <v Speaker 3>been watching her take the top off, the uh the <v Speaker 3>cover off, and watch her cut the water on. And <v Speaker 3>they learned how to do it just by watching her. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, they had to have. <v Speaker 3>There's no way they could just automatically to turn a <v Speaker 3>water hozone. That's why I say they're very highly intelligent. <v Speaker 2>We don't. <v Speaker 3>I don't think we give them as much credit as <v Speaker 3>they deserve as far as their intelligent level. They're more <v Speaker 3>than just an animal. They're they're almost like half human <v Speaker 3>half animal. I would think. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, they're super intelligent. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you just know these things about the things <v Speaker 3>they do. I mean, they're super stealthy. I mean, you <v Speaker 3>just there's no way. We just gave it and trying <v Speaker 3>to strain my eyes to look through the woods at them. <v Speaker 3>I'm just like, you know what, if they want to <v Speaker 3>see them, they'll show themselves. I'm just not going to <v Speaker 3>stress over it anymore. I know they're there. They you <v Speaker 3>know all kinds of signs that they leave. We do <v Speaker 3>know that they have to use pine branches for bedding. <v Speaker 2>Now. <v Speaker 3>One day we went walking down the trail and when <v Speaker 3>we came back off the trail, they had laid a <v Speaker 3>pine branch in the path and it was just being <v Speaker 3>cut because I picked it up and I'm like, it <v Speaker 3>wasn't there when we went down the path. It was <v Speaker 3>just goes to show you how quick and how quiet <v Speaker 3>they are. Because we went down to the bucket, we're <v Speaker 3>just kind of looking down there. They probably knew we <v Speaker 3>were not paying attention up to the front, so they <v Speaker 3>went running through, left the pine branch there and then <v Speaker 3>took back off. I think they do games with you too, <v Speaker 3>because they know that that pine branch, because when we <v Speaker 3>picked it up, I'm like, I'm looking around and they're <v Speaker 3>probably are there just like laugh and say, you know <v Speaker 3>they can't find us. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they do. <v Speaker 3>I think they enjoy playing like little games with you too, <v Speaker 3>you know, trying to make you figure out where they're at. <v Speaker 1>You know, I think they're completely aware that humans have <v Speaker 1>no idea they're alive or they exist. And I think <v Speaker 1>they do like to play games with people. Crazy. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you know, like I said, like you said earlier, <v Speaker 3>you know, you could tell people the story and people <v Speaker 3>are going to say, you know, she's so full of it. <v Speaker 3>There's no way that you know they're inter reacting with <v Speaker 3>you know, Bigfoot. <v Speaker 2>Hey. <v Speaker 3>I even questioned it myself, you know, because I'm like <v Speaker 3>from a small town in North Carolina and we have <v Speaker 3>Bigfoot living in our little bit of property. You know, <v Speaker 3>I mean you question yourself, are they really hear? <v Speaker 2>You know? <v Speaker 1>Absolutely? <v Speaker 3>But you know, even today, I still you know, Larry <v Speaker 3>a little bit, you know, like, well, you know, they're <v Speaker 3>getting to know us really well. They're whistling now. They <v Speaker 3>did do recent which I record. I happened to catch <v Speaker 3>it when we were out on the back deck. They <v Speaker 3>did this new whistle and it's really different from the <v Speaker 3>regular whistle. You know with my mom they would do <v Speaker 3>it would be like two at a time, and then <v Speaker 3>the other one would whistle like that, and my Mom's like, <v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can do that. It's kind of, <v Speaker 3>you know, a lot more rapid. So she tried to <v Speaker 3>keep up with them. I have that on video audio, <v Speaker 3>so you can maybe they might want to hear that one. <v Speaker 3>And I even look like most of the time, I'll <v Speaker 3>go on in YouTube and I'll look up, you know, <v Speaker 3>birds of North Carolina or whatever, and they had that <v Speaker 3>same whistle on there. But each time they had a whistle, <v Speaker 3>they would say which bird it was. Well, when this <v Speaker 3>whistle came up and I backed it up three times, <v Speaker 3>I said, I keep missing it. There is no name <v Speaker 3>for any bird for that whistle. That was odd to me. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is odd. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I was like, huh, maybe they just don't know, <v Speaker 3>maybe it's a new bird or whatever. But they picked <v Speaker 3>up on that how to do that whistle. They did <v Speaker 3>that only once. Haven't heard them do anything else. And <v Speaker 3>then just a couple of days ago they are talking <v Speaker 3>now and not whistling. We think that it's like a <v Speaker 3>communication between them, and that it's so hard to describe <v Speaker 3>it's like, I don't know, it's very deep and loud, <v Speaker 3>like a y'all, but it's it's like a language. I <v Speaker 3>don't know that they're talking to each other and couldn't <v Speaker 3>believe it at first. I was like, and they only <v Speaker 3>did it for like five seconds, you know, one would <v Speaker 3>and then one would say it, and then the other <v Speaker 3>would answer back, and that was it. <v Speaker 2>It was like this quick little thing, you know, And <v Speaker 2>I'm like. <v Speaker 1>Wow, was it really loud or was it like a <v Speaker 1>whisper chad? <v Speaker 2>No, it was loud. It was loud. You could hear <v Speaker 2>it very well. It was very loud. Yeah, that's why <v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe it. <v Speaker 3>Kind of like kind of like a shock that you hear, <v Speaker 3>just like yeah, you know, it's like a y'all, you know, <v Speaker 3>kind of southern thing. <v Speaker 2>It didn't say. I mean, it's kind of like that, <v Speaker 2>but it just. <v Speaker 3>Kind of like drawn out more like it is very different, <v Speaker 3>kind of scared and a little bit about that. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, And like I told you from the beginning, it's <v Speaker 1>it's always going to be something different. But I mean, <v Speaker 1>in your case, it's kind of the same with the whistles, <v Speaker 1>but they're always going to throw something different. <v Speaker 3>At you and keep they have been like constantly. I <v Speaker 3>don't know if it's just they're trying to trip us up, <v Speaker 3>you know about things they do. <v Speaker 2>I just don't know. <v Speaker 1>I think they're teaching us things end time, Like it's <v Speaker 1>a long process for us to take in the fact <v Speaker 1>that they exist. So they give us a little by <v Speaker 1>little and we kind of have to decode those things <v Speaker 1>and understand it before they just you know, let us <v Speaker 1>know everything. Does that exactly? <v Speaker 3>Yes, it does. And I think that they do try <v Speaker 3>to share things with you. Like we hadn't been out <v Speaker 3>the feed on probably in like four or five days <v Speaker 3>or something, and I had gone out there in the <v Speaker 3>woods and I was just looking around, and I think <v Speaker 3>I sent you that picture. <v Speaker 2>It was a fresh break where they had just. <v Speaker 3>Taken the tall like little kind of thick little tree <v Speaker 3>and they just broke it off at the top of it. <v Speaker 3>And I'm like, hmm, I think they're mad. And then <v Speaker 3>I did find the other day we went out there, <v Speaker 3>they had taken a peanut butter jar and they had <v Speaker 3>it sitting under the tree. <v Speaker 2>Now we found that we found this like. <v Speaker 3>Kind of like uh indented area that we think that <v Speaker 3>it's like something's been late that sleeps there, and then <v Speaker 3>there's that tree that sits behind it. So I don't <v Speaker 3>know if they were just sitting under a tree and <v Speaker 3>they were, there's only just a I don't know, they <v Speaker 3>have an inch left of the peanut butter at the <v Speaker 3>bottom that you saw fingerprints that were in the bottom, <v Speaker 3>and I because you know, we've never seen they always <v Speaker 3>bring them back. They do bring back the peanut butter <v Speaker 3>jars with the label off, and the jar is like <v Speaker 3>completely cleaned out. I don't know how they get all <v Speaker 3>of it out like that, but it is like clean, clean, clean. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>I don't know if they rinse it out in the <v Speaker 3>you know, the ponds or something, but it's always labels <v Speaker 3>off of it, and the jars are always cleaned out. <v Speaker 3>Now they always leave the lid, which is funny. They <v Speaker 3>take the lid off if they take the peanut butter <v Speaker 3>with them, and then you won't see it for probably <v Speaker 3>maybe two weeks or so, and then all of a <v Speaker 3>sudden it's back at the gifting area where they drop <v Speaker 3>it back off. <v Speaker 2>It's is odd. <v Speaker 1>I experienced the same thing with the peanut butter, and <v Speaker 1>I'll put the lids on extremely tight. We do now <v Speaker 1>they leave the lids sitting there for me, and the <v Speaker 1>jars are gone, and then I'll find like the labels <v Speaker 1>on the trail, like in the middle of the trail. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, season that weird how they there's so many of <v Speaker 3>them in different locations, but they all have like very <v Speaker 3>similar traits, like things they do like peeling the label <v Speaker 3>off of the p I mean, that must be fascinating <v Speaker 3>to them to do that. Yeah, Now we were this <v Speaker 3>was something that we had been doing. We decided we're <v Speaker 3>gonna I got some of these jumbo crayons, you know, <v Speaker 3>and so I would do a drawing and I'd leave <v Speaker 3>it out, you know, and then the next time I <v Speaker 3>would flip the page over and I'd do another drawing. <v Speaker 3>Because we were thinking, well, maybe they'll learn how to <v Speaker 3>use these in like mark on or something, you know. <v Speaker 2>Try, we try all kinds of stuff. You still never know. <v Speaker 3>And so we did this for like four or five times. <v Speaker 3>And then the next time when I went out there, <v Speaker 3>the page was already turned to a clear to a <v Speaker 3>blank page where they already flipped it for me to <v Speaker 3>draw another thing on there. So it's like they think <v Speaker 3>that it's only for us to draw, and so he <v Speaker 3>flipped the page and had it ready for me to <v Speaker 3>go ahead and draw another structure, you know, like pencil <v Speaker 3>hearts whatever on there. That was strange. Yeah, how they <v Speaker 3>do stuff like that. I mean, there's just just you know, <v Speaker 3>so many things. I know, I'm forgetting so many. Yes, <v Speaker 3>we have gotten old medicine bottles that you know, just <v Speaker 3>you know, old stuff. <v Speaker 2>Like that bottles, old bottles. <v Speaker 3>Not all the time, but you know they're out there <v Speaker 3>all the time and they're digging and finding stuff. And <v Speaker 3>so yeah, they left us and two bottles. One of <v Speaker 3>them was clear and the other was like a you know, <v Speaker 3>see through that tan kind of stuff, clear glass like that. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>they leave us stuff that they find that they find. <v Speaker 3>I'm curious and think that you know, their gifting is <v Speaker 3>different from ours because you know, they don't have money. <v Speaker 3>They can't go to the store, you know, so they <v Speaker 3>find things out in the woods and think, okay, well <v Speaker 3>maybe they might like this, so they leave it. And <v Speaker 3>you always are appreciative and thank them for whatever they <v Speaker 3>leave you, you know, because in their eyes they're like excited <v Speaker 3>because you know, they're giving us something that they think <v Speaker 3>we would like. So you know, you don't ever want <v Speaker 3>to say, ugh, whether it's an old bottle, but to them, <v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, they found that and they brought <v Speaker 3>it up to give it to you, so you know <v Speaker 3>you should accept it. <v Speaker 2>And take it. And that's what we do. <v Speaker 3>We've got a collection of like little things that they've <v Speaker 3>found out in the woods. <v Speaker 2>They haven't made anything a year. <v Speaker 3>Some people say they made them, like these little out <v Speaker 3>of vines, made like little people and stuff. We haven't <v Speaker 3>gotten anything like that, you know, nothing they've made. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>they just find stuff out in the woods and they <v Speaker 3>give it to us. <v Speaker 2>I do know. One thing that they really really love <v Speaker 2>is glitter balls. <v Speaker 1>You know. <v Speaker 2>It's the kind that have the water in it and <v Speaker 2>you shake. <v Speaker 3>The little ball and all the glitters just they absolutely <v Speaker 3>love those things. They don't stay there for you know. <v Speaker 3>Once they're there and they spot it, they take it. <v Speaker 3>I don't know why they like the glitter balls so good, <v Speaker 3>but every time I've left one, it's always gone the <v Speaker 3>next day. Yeah, you know, like marbles, they're very particular <v Speaker 3>about the color of marble. I've left white marbles, blue, red, <v Speaker 3>glittery ones. They don't like white marbles. I've left one <v Speaker 3>I don't know how long I've left it out there. <v Speaker 2>They just won't take it. They don't. <v Speaker 3>They don't like the white marble. And I would put <v Speaker 3>another one with the white marble. That marble will be <v Speaker 3>gone with the white marble is still there. Let's be <v Speaker 3>something about white. I don't I don't know if they <v Speaker 3>like white or what, but they will not touch the <v Speaker 3>white marble. So finally I just took I just picked <v Speaker 3>it up. So they're not gonna take it. They don't <v Speaker 3>want it. So so they're very you know, they'll let <v Speaker 3>you know if they like something or not. They're not <v Speaker 3>ashamed to tell you. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it sounds like you have a kind group, <v Speaker 1>like one that doesn't try to scare you guys. You know, <v Speaker 1>they're not screaming. If they communicate, it's kind of gentle, <v Speaker 1>you know, they show kindness. Yes, And then there's other <v Speaker 1>people that talk about groups or plans that come up <v Speaker 1>to their property and they're completely I wouldn't say evil, <v Speaker 1>but pretty disturbing. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think there. <v Speaker 3>You know, it's just like people, there's good and bad, <v Speaker 3>you know, sasquatches. I mean, they're you know, some that <v Speaker 3>are really good and then you've got some that are bad. <v Speaker 2>You know, it's just like people. I think they're all good. <v Speaker 1>Right, It's like a natural thing in this world. You know, <v Speaker 1>most bears are gonna run, but you can get attacked <v Speaker 1>by a bear. <v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly. And I think if you were to pin them, <v Speaker 3>you know, where they had no way out, they're going <v Speaker 3>to come out and you might definitely get hurt. But <v Speaker 3>I don't think they intentionally go out and seek us out. <v Speaker 3>You know, they try to avoid us at all costs, <v Speaker 3>so you don't really hear a lot of stories about <v Speaker 3>people being attacked by bigfoot. I think they scared a <v Speaker 3>mess out of you and run you out of their territory, <v Speaker 3>so they have to be kind of vicious so you <v Speaker 3>won't come back. But I don't think deep down, I <v Speaker 3>don't really think that a majority of them are not <v Speaker 3>evil or bad. <v Speaker 2>I think a lot of them are good. Ours are good. Yeah, <v Speaker 2>they're mischievous. <v Speaker 3>They get into things, and they've gotten into stuff at <v Speaker 3>my mom's and you know, they get in trouble, just <v Speaker 3>like you know little kids do. They get in trouble too. <v Speaker 3>We figured that out. So they do have a set <v Speaker 3>of rules that they go by, just like we go <v Speaker 3>by rules. They do too. In their own, their wrong <v Speaker 3>way and doing things like did not want to them <v Speaker 3>begging for food, you know. And so I think he <v Speaker 3>was the older alpha male was standing back watching what <v Speaker 3>they were doing and was like, I don't know, we <v Speaker 3>can't have this going on. So they just went silent <v Speaker 3>for twelve days. That's a long time. Didn't hear them. <v Speaker 3>My mom would go out and whistle, whistle, whistle, And <v Speaker 3>that's when we put it together. They had to have <v Speaker 3>gotten in trouble for begging for food, we think. We <v Speaker 3>think that because my mom would always go out there <v Speaker 3>and they whistled, and she'd say, Okay, I'll bring you <v Speaker 3>something in a minute. Maybe not lostuff, but she would <v Speaker 3>always like just going out there every other. <v Speaker 2>Day taking food to them. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think the alpha male, you know, was wondering, okay, <v Speaker 3>how come you're not eating your supper and you're eating <v Speaker 3>all you know, finding out that they're getting lots of <v Speaker 3>food from my mother, and say he could have stopped <v Speaker 3>to it. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I was going to ask you real quick. <v Speaker 1>You know, you've kind of experienced the same as me. <v Speaker 1>You know, you kind of see more of a a <v Speaker 1>natural way of living with the Bigfoot, as if you know, <v Speaker 1>as in they're from this planet. You know, you see <v Speaker 1>him eat they they take things, you know it's food, yes, <v Speaker 1>And you'll see evidence of them as far as the structures, <v Speaker 1>and you'll catch glimpses of them. How do you feel, <v Speaker 1>not only about like skeptics that say, oh, they don't exist, <v Speaker 1>but with the stories of people that say, you know, <v Speaker 1>they came down from a UFO or the mind speak <v Speaker 1>or you know, there's like this leader named Czar and <v Speaker 1>all the Bigfoots report to him, you know, and they're <v Speaker 1>from another planet. Like how how does that make you <v Speaker 1>feel when you are experienced experiencing this activity on a <v Speaker 1>natural level. I wouldn't say natural, but you know. <v Speaker 3>Day to day just I don't I don't don't think <v Speaker 3>they're from a crazy planet, you know, or anything like that. <v Speaker 2>I mean, you just got to keep things simple. <v Speaker 3>They may come from there, but I don't think on <v Speaker 3>that level as far as they're concerned, I look at <v Speaker 3>them as an intelligent being that is, you know, very <v Speaker 3>similar to us, and that they're just as smart, if <v Speaker 3>not smaller than we are. <v Speaker 2>But as far as them coming from. <v Speaker 3>A UFO, I haven't seen it, and not seeing it <v Speaker 3>doesn't exist, and that they don't you know, they interact <v Speaker 3>with UFOs. <v Speaker 2>I have no idea. <v Speaker 3>I just know with my experience and I have not <v Speaker 3>seen anything like that the veils, you know, people talk about, <v Speaker 3>no nothing, nothing like out of the you know, huge <v Speaker 3>spiritual realm. I mean, I think they're spiritual creatures as <v Speaker 3>in living, breathing creatures. And like I had said earlier, <v Speaker 3>if you shot them, they will bleed. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. And like I saw the juvenile and <v Speaker 1>you've seen one too, and they're extremely fast, very fast. <v Speaker 1>Seen an older one, you know, and they blend in <v Speaker 1>very well. And a lot of it doesn't make sense, <v Speaker 1>but it does when you see see them. <v Speaker 3>You know right well, when you start having an experience <v Speaker 3>with them, I mean they've been hanging around and coming back. <v Speaker 3>You know, they stay for like six months, you know, <v Speaker 3>out of the year seven and you know, you just <v Speaker 3>that's a long time. You know that you really start, <v Speaker 3>especially when they start interreacting with you and they whistle <v Speaker 3>and you may not see them, but you start putting <v Speaker 3>things together just like they do with us. You know, <v Speaker 3>we're not watching them because we can't see them, but <v Speaker 3>we know things by things we give them that they <v Speaker 3>don't like. Or they do like and you just find <v Speaker 3>out a lot of things about them, just the whistling itself. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 3>My mom said that day, the day that they stopped <v Speaker 3>whistling for that twelve for that twelve day span, she <v Speaker 3>said she heard this whistle and almost sounding like a <v Speaker 3>panic whistle, like like you know. <v Speaker 2>Oh, oh crap, we're in trouble, you know. <v Speaker 3>And it was like a you know, fast whistle, like <v Speaker 3>three or four times, and my Mom's like, that's different. <v Speaker 3>And then we didn't hear anything for twelve days after that, <v Speaker 3>So it's like she was trying to tell my mom <v Speaker 3>that we got we're in trouble. We can't we can't <v Speaker 3>come back right now. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, getting back to you know, just the <v Speaker 1>weird stuff that you hear on the internet and people saying, oh, <v Speaker 1>this is what it is and this is where they're from, <v Speaker 1>and you know that, Yeah, they're talking to them through <v Speaker 1>their mind. I mean to me, I mean that if <v Speaker 1>it could be possible, but it doesn't bring evidence. <v Speaker 2>No. <v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you, do you feel like that <v Speaker 1>puts us back? Even if they are doing that and <v Speaker 1>they let's say they are from another planet, do you <v Speaker 1>feel like that puts us back since we are at <v Speaker 1>a natural level, like you said, and we can only <v Speaker 1>take things one step at a time and do so <v Speaker 1>much as humans. <v Speaker 3>Like, how do you mean do I think that they're <v Speaker 3>from another planet or how do I feel about people <v Speaker 3>who they are? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean like people saying, you know, they're coming <v Speaker 1>from UFOs and they're going through portals. You know, you've <v Speaker 1>seen them move super fast, You've experienced them living out <v Speaker 1>in the woods and they eat physical food, but they're there. <v Speaker 3>Their their physical appearances just it's unbelievable though, I mean, <v Speaker 3>the strength and the muscle that they have, you know, Yeah, <v Speaker 3>they can move fast, you know, but I don't think <v Speaker 3>i'd have to see it for myself to believe that <v Speaker 3>the UFO theory, you know, with them, I'm not gonna <v Speaker 3>rule anything out. <v Speaker 2>I can't. You know. <v Speaker 3>That's just like somebody listening to my story and say, <v Speaker 3>you know, she's you know, I don't believe a word <v Speaker 3>she's saying, And that's fine, that's that, you know, that's <v Speaker 3>their right not to believe me. But I know what <v Speaker 3>I've seen, what I've heard, what I've been through for <v Speaker 3>two years of things I've experienced, I know they're there, <v Speaker 3>you know, may not have seen them. I have seen <v Speaker 3>them with my physical eye, but not like going to <v Speaker 3>sit down at the bonfire. We're gonna we're gonna talk like, Okay, <v Speaker 3>what do you do during the day? <v Speaker 2>You know, that would be great. <v Speaker 3>But the mind speaking thing, My thing about mind speed <v Speaker 3>is that if I could mind speak with one, I <v Speaker 3>would definitely ask them questions, what does the arch mean? <v Speaker 3>What does the X mean? I mean, give me simple stuff. <v Speaker 3>You know, some people come up with all these crazy <v Speaker 3>names that they're called and and I just I don't <v Speaker 3>get it. It's like, why can't you ask Why can't <v Speaker 3>you ask them stuff that we want to know, like <v Speaker 3>why are they doing the arches? <v Speaker 2>And you know what I mean? <v Speaker 1>Mm hm. And that's how I feel like. I don't know. <v Speaker 1>We have cameras, we we cant like we can take <v Speaker 1>notes down, so. <v Speaker 3>I do think they haveredibility, though yeah, I feel like <v Speaker 3>we're limited, I guess is what I'm saying. <v Speaker 1>We can only do so much. So if we start saying, <v Speaker 1>you know, other planets and this is what's going on, <v Speaker 1>it's really gonna I don't know. I feel like it <v Speaker 1>puts a damper on things, just because it does. Haven't <v Speaker 1>even got through step one and two, which is you know, <v Speaker 1>getting to get more clear videos, and then we're already <v Speaker 1>jumping into the I wouldn't say future, but like you said, <v Speaker 1>I'm not dismissing it. And like I've had this activity, <v Speaker 1>people doubt me and ridicule me. So they could have <v Speaker 1>very well experienced that, you know, because I've experienced Bigfoot <v Speaker 1>and that's weird enough, so why couldn't they experience strange <v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. <v Speaker 3>That's why I say I don't downplay anything anybody says. <v Speaker 3>I mean that's their experience and that that's what they, <v Speaker 3>you know, encountered with Bigfoot. <v Speaker 1>Then yeah, that's fine. At this point if you're trying <v Speaker 1>to convince people you need I don't know, I shouldn't <v Speaker 1>say you need to bring it down a notch, but <v Speaker 1>you can do whatever you want. But it just needs <v Speaker 1>to be yeah, because like the way I make my videos, <v Speaker 1>it's like I I just have to talk really simple <v Speaker 1>and make sure you know, the message gets through. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does. <v Speaker 3>But when you start going off on these sidetracks about <v Speaker 3>you know, the spiritual uh nature of them and the <v Speaker 3>veils and uh, you're really sidetracking me to the point that, <v Speaker 3>let's this basic. Okay, maybe they can do all that, <v Speaker 3>but I haven't seen it for myself. <v Speaker 2>I just know right now. <v Speaker 3>They're living, breathing creatures that are very slick. They I mean, <v Speaker 3>they're very highly intelligent. They watch us, they know what's <v Speaker 3>going on, and you know, yeah, I mean, it is <v Speaker 3>hard to get a good picture of them or anything. <v Speaker 3>But I feel like that if I go to that <v Speaker 3>limit to try to fool them, I don't think I'd <v Speaker 3>ever see them again, be honest with you, because I <v Speaker 3>don't think they want us to know what so much <v Speaker 3>about them. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I agree, Like, I'm still trying to figure <v Speaker 1>out what these two sticks are in the ground. You know, <v Speaker 1>that's an axe. I'm not trying to jump to what <v Speaker 1>planet they're from just yet. And you know, some people <v Speaker 1>may be there and that's fine, but. <v Speaker 2>Well tell me, though, I want to know what the <v Speaker 2>X means. You know, can ask them that. <v Speaker 1>You know, I mean, is a portal like where's I'm <v Speaker 1>not saying, where's the evidence? Like show it to me now, <v Speaker 1>dang it. But I have seen it myself. It seems <v Speaker 1>more natural to me. Yeah, exactly. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, I won't under so many arches, and just recently <v Speaker 2>they have. <v Speaker 3>We walked down the other day and there there was <v Speaker 3>this big arch and it's like right past the gifting area. <v Speaker 3>It had been pushed down, like we have to walk <v Speaker 3>under it to keep going on the path. Well, the <v Speaker 3>other day we went out there and it's like they <v Speaker 3>they pushed it down, and it's like why would they <v Speaker 3>do that? And then a little bit further past that, <v Speaker 3>they had two long not branches, they're pretty thick pine <v Speaker 3>trees that they had laid down across the path. Now, <v Speaker 3>to me, it's letting me know that they don't want <v Speaker 3>us to go any further than that kind of thing, <v Speaker 3>Like they're trying to tell us that, you know, Ny, <v Speaker 3>you could go this far, but that's as far as <v Speaker 3>you can go. Don't try to come back here anymore. <v Speaker 3>Where we're at, I think there were things they just <v Speaker 3>don't want us to know. I mean, and that's fine. <v Speaker 3>As long as they'll come up to my area and <v Speaker 3>I still can, you know, react with them, that's fine. <v Speaker 3>If they don't want me back in the back, that's fine. <v Speaker 2>That's why I think that we're dealing with juveniles. <v Speaker 3>I don't think that my mom and I are dealing <v Speaker 3>with the bigger guys, like the alpha males and the females. <v Speaker 2>I think they stay in the back. <v Speaker 3>I don't think they They may come up at night, <v Speaker 3>but you don't see them out during the day. Only <v Speaker 3>the juveniles I think are out being mischievous, getting into stuff. <v Speaker 1>Yeah kind of thing. Regardless, they're still around, they're in <v Speaker 1>the area, within the area. <v Speaker 2>Yes, they're here now. <v Speaker 3>They're usually hours relieve probably the next couple of weeks, <v Speaker 3>and you could you just know. It's like a feeling <v Speaker 3>that you get inside. It's like a hollow emptiness that <v Speaker 3>you know they're not there anymore. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I call it winter. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, when all the leaves and you had made <v Speaker 3>a statement about you know, when all the leaves are gone, <v Speaker 3>they don't really have a you know area they can <v Speaker 3>really hide, you know, very well. So they have to <v Speaker 3>go deeper. Either they're going deeper into the woods away <v Speaker 3>from where people are, or I think mine might be <v Speaker 3>traveling up into the mountaineer. I live about four hours <v Speaker 3>from the mountains, in like two and a half hours, <v Speaker 3>three hours from the beach. So that's why I see <v Speaker 3>it like in the best spot, because you know, you <v Speaker 3>want to go to the mountains and go to the beach. <v Speaker 2>You know, kind of sit right there in between. <v Speaker 1>Got the East coast, the Midwest, and the West coast. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>the mountains anyways, all on one state. That's pretty neat. <v Speaker 2>It's great. I love it. I love North Carolina. It's <v Speaker 2>a great state to live in. <v Speaker 1>Where's the most Bigfoot activity in North Carolina? Like, where <v Speaker 1>have you found the most reports? <v Speaker 3>If you have, I think probably up in the Mountain area, <v Speaker 3>That's what I think. <v Speaker 2>I haven't don any research on that, but a lot <v Speaker 2>of stories. <v Speaker 3>There's there's a lady that gave a really big story <v Speaker 3>about her grandfather having in reaction with Bigfoot. <v Speaker 2>For years and years. I forgot what they called him, <v Speaker 2>but that's that was in North Caro Carolina. <v Speaker 1>I know. I've had people from North Carolina Central, the <v Speaker 1>Central area comment on some of my videos. <v Speaker 2>M that's where I am. So that's where you know, So. <v Speaker 1>You're not the only one experiencing this activity. <v Speaker 3>No, No, there's other people here in North Carolina. But <v Speaker 3>I think though the majority of the Bigfoot I think <v Speaker 3>are probably up around the mountain area. <v Speaker 2>I'm not around my area. <v Speaker 3>That's why I think ours when they leave they go <v Speaker 3>up into the mountain area and because you know, they <v Speaker 3>could go deep up in there and nobody's gonna mess <v Speaker 3>with them. You know, they don't like hunters. And the <v Speaker 3>only reason I think they don't like hunters is because <v Speaker 3>they're taking away their food supply. <v Speaker 1>Mm. <v Speaker 3>But I think somebody made a comment one time like <v Speaker 3>if you're going to you know, kill deer or whatever, <v Speaker 3>then give them the you know, certain pieces of the deer. <v Speaker 3>Leave it for them as a you know, they're. <v Speaker 2>Giving back to what they took. <v Speaker 3>I don't know, I've heard people say that about if <v Speaker 3>you go out hunting and you know they're in your area, <v Speaker 3>than to leave them something of the deer that you kill. <v Speaker 1>I mean, I believe they're aware of, you know, humans <v Speaker 1>taking out too many deer out of the area, you know, <v Speaker 1>kind of like a conservation thing, like they know if <v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, people are killing way too many, you know, <v Speaker 1>if this keeps happening, there's going to be hardly any Yeah. <v Speaker 3>And that's another thing that you're talking about deer on <v Speaker 3>our property that we've noticed that like when the uh, <v Speaker 3>you know, in the spring, when the the deer start <v Speaker 3>having babies, phones and stuff that I don't think they <v Speaker 3>they don't try to kill them. It's like, you know, <v Speaker 3>that's their that's their dinner ticket, you know. And it's <v Speaker 3>like if you take the babies out or the moms, <v Speaker 3>I mean, you're going to deplete the population even worse. <v Speaker 3>So I don't think that they look at them. I <v Speaker 3>think they're very specific about what they take down as <v Speaker 3>far as food. Yeah, you're not a female with a baby, <v Speaker 3>I don't think, or if it's pregnant and they know, <v Speaker 3>they're not gonna mess with it. <v Speaker 1>I have found, like certain plans, they will eat everything. <v Speaker 1>I mean, you won't see a deer in this, like <v Speaker 1>a certain woods. You know, an area you went to <v Speaker 1>a year after year you see deer and then you <v Speaker 1>experience bigfoot activity and then all of a sudden you <v Speaker 1>notice there's no deer in the area. And I've heard <v Speaker 1>other people say that when they go to these areas, <v Speaker 1>there's just no wildlife. But then there's certain places where <v Speaker 1>the bigfoot seem to coexist with the deer and kind <v Speaker 1>of have a respect for them and not just go <v Speaker 1>in and wipe them all out. <v Speaker 3>Right, Let's see, that's what I think I wass doing. <v Speaker 3>I don't think they're just killing just to kill. They <v Speaker 3>specifically kill for a reason to eat and not just <v Speaker 3>because you know, oh I'm gonna go out and you know, <v Speaker 3>take something down today, you know, and to show my <v Speaker 3>alpha side, you know, that thing that they do. They <v Speaker 3>know they respect the other an that's why they're like, <v Speaker 3>you know, they say that they're the you know, watchers <v Speaker 3>of the forest. You know, they keep eye on everything. <v Speaker 3>And I don't think that they don't. They're not depleting <v Speaker 3>the deer because they know that they go in and <v Speaker 3>they deplete all the deer, then they're not gonna have <v Speaker 3>anything to eat themselves. <v Speaker 2>So my mama and I kind. <v Speaker 3>Of figured this is what I've noticed that you know, <v Speaker 3>they don't miss with a female deer. We have seeing <v Speaker 3>like a couple of males you know with the female, <v Speaker 3>and next thing, you know, in a week or so later, <v Speaker 3>you don't see that male with that other the other females. <v Speaker 3>So it's like they they know which ones to take out, <v Speaker 3>you know for lunch or dinner or whatever, and they <v Speaker 3>just leave the other ones along. Like pregnant female, I <v Speaker 3>don't think they mess with them or when when they <v Speaker 3>have a little baby. <v Speaker 1>M Yeah, this year, like the activity has dropped pretty <v Speaker 1>low the Bigfoot activity, but the deer numbers are rising. <v Speaker 1>But before that, the three years I was having all <v Speaker 1>the experiences, I mean, there were no deer. And I <v Speaker 1>mean even the people that are skeptics around me that <v Speaker 1>they'll tell you know, there used to be deer everywhere. <v Speaker 1>Now there's just nothing. <v Speaker 3>Well, I think over time, yeah, but I think every <v Speaker 3>time they can deplete the population of deer if if <v Speaker 3>they're not smart, you know, it's smart enough to know that, hey, <v Speaker 3>you know she's pregnant with you know, more food for me, <v Speaker 3>and why am I going to take her out? <v Speaker 1>You know, I think they got forced into this area. <v Speaker 2>I feel, you think, So, what do you mean forcing <v Speaker 2>from where? <v Speaker 1>Well, when I was having the major activity, like way <v Speaker 1>across the woods, like the deepest part that keeps leading <v Speaker 1>like towards the rivers and deeper forests, like for a <v Speaker 1>whole year, every single day you would hear chainsawing and <v Speaker 1>it was a huge pine thicket. And I heard from <v Speaker 1>the neighbors they made like they cut down like eighty <v Speaker 1>acres and made a bunch of fields for the cattle. <v Speaker 1>But it all, it all came together for me, and <v Speaker 1>in my mind obviously I tell the neighbors that, but <v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, yeah, They're like, yeah, well, I don't <v Speaker 1>want to tell them why why I think all the <v Speaker 1>deer disappearing or you know, why there's strange things going on? <v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they probably wouldn't believe what you're town now. <v Speaker 1>You know, I don't really know these people. I know <v Speaker 1>them from seeing them for like two minutes or waving <v Speaker 1>at them, but I don't personally know them. So just <v Speaker 1>a bad way to, I don't know, introduce yourself. <v Speaker 3>I think I will tell you something strange that it <v Speaker 3>did happen, you know. Yeah, I don't know what it <v Speaker 3>is about graveyards with Bigfoot, but you know, we have <v Speaker 3>a small it's been on the property for over one <v Speaker 3>hundred years, this graveyard, and I mean I always look <v Speaker 3>at it, you know, because I'm going by there all <v Speaker 3>the time, and I've noticed that they keep bringing rocks <v Speaker 3>and they're putting them on this one grade site and <v Speaker 3>they're just like there'll be two and then a week <v Speaker 3>later you'll see a third rock. They're big rocks, they're <v Speaker 3>not small, and they just keep stacking them like down. <v Speaker 3>That's very odd to me. <v Speaker 2>I don't know what it. <v Speaker 3>Means, you know, this is the thing. These are simple <v Speaker 3>things that why are you doing that? What does the <v Speaker 3>rocks mean? <v Speaker 2>Did you you. <v Speaker 3>Know, is it like a I don't know respect thing <v Speaker 3>for the day. I have no idea why they do that, <v Speaker 3>but like every two weeks, every three weeks, it's very random. <v Speaker 3>But I don't know where in the world they're finding <v Speaker 3>limestone around here. Either they're bringing up these limestones and <v Speaker 3>putting them at the graveyard. Maybe somebody might know about <v Speaker 3>limestone with them. But you know, because with limestone it <v Speaker 3>breaks away kind of it's not like real strong rock, <v Speaker 3>but it's it may not be called limestone, but you <v Speaker 3>can actually like write with it, but it's still kind <v Speaker 3>of come apart. But it's just not a real strong rock. <v Speaker 3>But I don't know where they're getting that from. I <v Speaker 3>have no idea that they bring things out to the graveyard. <v Speaker 3>You know, a few things they don't like hang out <v Speaker 3>there or nothing. But you know, it's like right there <v Speaker 3>beside the pines. It's like when you're coming up on <v Speaker 3>my mom's property. My mom's house is like way off <v Speaker 3>the road, but you know you're coming down our path <v Speaker 3>and then you go over to the riot there's a <v Speaker 3>graveyard and then the pines kind of surround the whole thing. <v Speaker 1>Are the area, yes on that. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mom has this old house that's been there <v Speaker 3>for over one hundred years. At one time my brother <v Speaker 3>was living there, but yes, been there forever. That that <v Speaker 3>brings me back to, you know, way back, you know, <v Speaker 3>when I was probably in my twenties and my nephew's <v Speaker 3>little boy was outside playing, you know, we were at <v Speaker 3>the old house and he comes running in and you know, <v Speaker 3>he's like, they said, where are you being? <v Speaker 2>He said, I've been playing outside of the graveyard with <v Speaker 2>the little boy. <v Speaker 3>And I'm like, we don't have any kids around here, <v Speaker 3>not any of that age that their mama's gonna let him, <v Speaker 3>you know, come over. <v Speaker 1>Uh. <v Speaker 2>So I found that odd. <v Speaker 3>You know, it's just like certain pieces are like falling <v Speaker 3>together now that you know, now that I know what's there, <v Speaker 3>that just could have been the alpha mel back there <v Speaker 3>when he was little playing with my nephew's little boy. <v Speaker 3>You know, you stin't know because they may not. Kids <v Speaker 3>don't look at things as strange or a monkey or <v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. They're like if they can <v Speaker 3>standing and walking on two legs and there doing things <v Speaker 3>that I'm doing. <v Speaker 2>They just may look different. <v Speaker 3>But when you're a kid, you don't look at somebody <v Speaker 3>being different than you. You know, it's just somebody to <v Speaker 3>play with. <v Speaker 1>Mm hm, I'm I want to ask you real quick. <v Speaker 1>After all your experiences and everything you and your mother <v Speaker 1>have encountered and seen, how has your view changed within <v Speaker 1>the world, Like, how do you view things now? How <v Speaker 1>has that changed? <v Speaker 3>Not to throw everything out the window when somebody tells <v Speaker 3>you something they've seen something, don't you know, deny you know, <v Speaker 3>or say yeah that there's no such thing because you <v Speaker 3>don't know. You don't know what they've experienced. You don't <v Speaker 3>know what they've seen. So in my eyes up kind <v Speaker 3>of like you know, I don't react like, oh, Mark, <v Speaker 3>what you saw? <v Speaker 2>What you know? Because you didn't see it. <v Speaker 3>You know, nobody's experienced what I've experienced, so they can't <v Speaker 3>say I'm lying or and if they want to, they <v Speaker 3>don't have to believe me. But just being involved, knowing <v Speaker 3>that something is there just opens the door to what <v Speaker 3>possibilities are out there or you know, what other creatures <v Speaker 3>are out there besides Bigfoot. Yeah, it's so, Yeah, I'm <v Speaker 3>a lot more open minded never now, mind you, I've <v Speaker 3>known about bigfoot ever since I was a little goes <v Speaker 3>back to the Patterson you know, footage and stuff like that. <v Speaker 2>So I've always been aware. <v Speaker 3>Isn't something that just popped in my head, you know <v Speaker 3>one day that Okay, I think Bigfoot's on the property. <v Speaker 3>I've always knew something was there. You know, You're always <v Speaker 3>in the back of your head saying, yeah, I don't <v Speaker 3>be like, we have a big and you go, you'd go, like, <v Speaker 3>because of the area I'm from, you know, it's very <v Speaker 3>difficult to say, you know, we've got bigfoot here, you know. <v Speaker 3>And that's why I guess it kept pushing back in <v Speaker 3>my mind because I'm like, we don't have big foot, <v Speaker 3>don't have a lot of you know, we have woods, <v Speaker 3>but they're not like you know in Canada or Washington State. <v Speaker 3>You know, that's where bigfoot's at, you know. And that's <v Speaker 3>what I always thought, that there's no way that a <v Speaker 3>bigfoot could survive in our area. But they can survive. <v Speaker 3>They eat other things besides meat. I mean, they eat <v Speaker 3>vegetables and stuff like that, to corn and other suff <v Speaker 3>you know, they raig chicken pans and they eat eggs. <v Speaker 2>They love eggs. We have given them eggs. <v Speaker 3>They eat the whole thing, shell and everything, which I <v Speaker 3>find odd. But yeah, I just I'm very open minded <v Speaker 3>to what you know. I don't sit there and second <v Speaker 3>guess somebody when they're trying to tell me a story. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no doubt, yeah, because. <v Speaker 2>That's their reality it is. <v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, don't how do you feel <v Speaker 1>like I don't know if you've ever seen, like the <v Speaker 1>the mainstream media the new outlets talk about Bigfoot and <v Speaker 1>they're like, not a chance, you know, and they make <v Speaker 1>fun of it. I mean coming from us. Don't you <v Speaker 1>feel bad for them? Like they're miss you out on something. <v Speaker 1>You know, they're so tight into you know, what's cool <v Speaker 1>and what everybody else thinks. I don't know. For me, <v Speaker 1>I kind of feel bad for them. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't. <v Speaker 3>But the thing is, like you have these big groups <v Speaker 3>like with Bigfoot, you know, like these movie you know, <v Speaker 3>like Finding Bigfoot thing, and you know, my thing, my <v Speaker 3>philosophy on that was, Okay, you're you get a call <v Speaker 3>from the state and they have Bigfoot activity. But the <v Speaker 3>problem is you're only going there and you're staying one day. <v Speaker 3>I don't think you're gonna they're still there in that <v Speaker 3>same spot. They move around, they travel, and that's why <v Speaker 3>you just always killed me when somebody would go out <v Speaker 3>and they would stay in an area for maybe two <v Speaker 3>or three days. Now, you got to stay out there <v Speaker 3>longer than that if you actually want to try to <v Speaker 3>find them, because they're not just all of a sudden <v Speaker 3>going to come up and start interreacting with you, just <v Speaker 3>because you know you're so into bigfoot. You know how <v Speaker 3>they are and how they're going to react, because I <v Speaker 3>don't think anybody really knows how they're going to react <v Speaker 3>to anything unless they you know, it takes conversations. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it takes years when they're coming up to your house. Now, <v Speaker 1>if you're going to go out there and look for them, <v Speaker 1>it could take many years. Now, most of the time <v Speaker 1>they come to us, Like when someone has a sighting, <v Speaker 1>they either messed up and you saw them or they <v Speaker 1>let you see them. But rarely, you know, do people <v Speaker 1>go out there and they find it unless you know <v Speaker 1>they're having the activity. But I mean it does happen. <v Speaker 1>People do walk out in the woods and find things. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, most most of the time it's people come <v Speaker 3>up on them unexpectedly. It's not like the Bigfoot's like, <v Speaker 3>oh crap, you know, I got called, I got busted. <v Speaker 2>But that's very very rare. <v Speaker 3>You're not gonna It's just you're not going to walk <v Speaker 3>out in the woods and see Bigfoot, you know, just <v Speaker 3>because there's signs there. They could have moved on. They <v Speaker 3>could have been in one area one season and then <v Speaker 3>moved to another. You just you know, yeah, but I <v Speaker 3>think people are missing out, you know, when they want <v Speaker 3>to sit there and criticize us believers, you know that <v Speaker 3>they were full of it that yeah, right, it's probably <v Speaker 3>a bear, just like my nephew, it's probably a bear. <v Speaker 2>No, it's not a bear. I know what bear are. <v Speaker 2>I mean, I know what they do. <v Speaker 1>That's right. We're not just like believing like with faith, <v Speaker 1>like we're believing because we've experienced it, We've seen it, <v Speaker 1>heard it exactly. <v Speaker 3>They've interreacted with us, they've taken things, they've showed us things, <v Speaker 3>they've built structures for us because we had doubt and <v Speaker 3>don't and don't get me wrong, I did have doubt, <v Speaker 3>you know, because I'm like, there's no way there is <v Speaker 3>Bigfoot is on my property. <v Speaker 2>There's just no way. <v Speaker 3>And then as day after day year comes around and <v Speaker 3>they just interreact with us even more. It's just it's crazy. <v Speaker 3>I still even see here. Why did they choose us? <v Speaker 3>Why did they choose us to inter react with? And it, <v Speaker 3>you know, makes you wonder why me? Why do I <v Speaker 3>get to experience which is gray? It makes you feel <v Speaker 3>special because they're interreacting with you. But what makes them <v Speaker 3>choose who to interact with and who not to interact with? <v Speaker 1>That's what I want to know, you know, Yeah, because <v Speaker 1>they've I feel. <v Speaker 3>Special maybe in a way, you know, because they chose us, <v Speaker 3>and it's like it doesn't feel you know, kind of <v Speaker 3>special that maybe you know, because they can sense that <v Speaker 3>we are good people. We're not going to do anything <v Speaker 3>to harm them. I wouldn't do anything to betray their trust. <v Speaker 3>I never could. If some big bigfoot person came up <v Speaker 3>and said, you know, I heard your story and I <v Speaker 3>want to come out and check after your area, I'd <v Speaker 3>have to tell them no that, you know, I just <v Speaker 3>because I don't want them to, you know, lose respect <v Speaker 3>and trust in me that they placed in me. I <v Speaker 3>would feel horrible if I did that. If I betrayed them, <v Speaker 3>that's a betrayal, you know that I don't think you <v Speaker 3>could ever get back if I did something like that <v Speaker 3>to them. I think they would know that she sold <v Speaker 3>us out for money or you know, fame, whatever. I <v Speaker 3>would never do it. <v Speaker 2>I leave it alone. You know. <v Speaker 3>I don't want a bunch of people coming, you know, <v Speaker 3>going all down in the property, because they're gonna know <v Speaker 3>they're not stupid, They're gonna know what you did. <v Speaker 2>You know she portrayed them. That's why I won't do <v Speaker 2>game cams. You know. My nephew's always said, if you <v Speaker 2>want to catch them, just put up these put up <v Speaker 2>trail cams everywhere. <v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I thought about that, and I'm like, <v Speaker 3>but if I want to continue to have a relationship <v Speaker 3>with them, then I can't do it. I just have <v Speaker 3>to go off what I have seen, what I have experienced, <v Speaker 3>and go with that instead of putting out game cameras <v Speaker 3>and trying to catch you know, trying to catch them. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>but I think they can see it. They know they're <v Speaker 3>watching you when you're putting them up. I mean, come on, <v Speaker 3>I mean, you can't be that step. You can't be <v Speaker 3>that smart to know that they're not sitting there watching <v Speaker 3>you the whole time and know exactly where that camera's at, <v Speaker 3>and they know exactly what you're trying to do. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, And if they do. <v Speaker 3>See the game cam, they know how far to be <v Speaker 3>out where it cannot detect them at a range. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're never just going to walk straight in front <v Speaker 1>of it. After you get m M. <v Speaker 2>I don't think so. <v Speaker 1>They're going to know something's off. They live there, just <v Speaker 1>like your house. If something's in your house that you <v Speaker 1>didn't put there, you're gonna. <v Speaker 2>Know it exactly. They know the forest like the back <v Speaker 2>of their hand. You know, it's their home. <v Speaker 3>They know anything that has changed out there, they're going <v Speaker 3>to know what same thing. Like you sit in your <v Speaker 3>own house, you're gonna know if somebody moves something immediately <v Speaker 3>you're like, that doesn't belong. There's your property, do you <v Speaker 3>have ya exactly. <v Speaker 1>Be wondering who was in your house? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? Who came to my house? You know? <v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's the same same with them. You respect them. <v Speaker 3>They they should respect you. But if you don't have <v Speaker 3>mutual respect then that they will, I think, would walk <v Speaker 3>all over you if you didn't inspect what they deal <v Speaker 3>or believe in and stuff and dale once going certain <v Speaker 3>you know far back on the path, and I respect <v Speaker 3>that I'm not going to go back there, and because <v Speaker 3>I'll be like, Okay, they're hiding something, I gotta go <v Speaker 3>back there and go find out what they're doing. You know, <v Speaker 3>that would be wrong. <v Speaker 1>I think I lost some of their respect when I <v Speaker 1>pulled out this cheap pair of night vision binoculars I had, <v Speaker 1>because they were walking around the house at night and <v Speaker 1>I could hear them and they're breaking limbs and stuff, <v Speaker 1>and you know, there was no wind or anything. You <v Speaker 1>could hear them. I know it was done because a <v Speaker 1>month before that, or no, a year before that. Sorry, <v Speaker 1>I'd shine the spotlight and I saw the whole group. <v Speaker 1>I mean I saw them all so wow. This time, <v Speaker 1>you know, I was like, oh, you know, I gotta <v Speaker 1>I gotta get it, you know, on film, because you <v Speaker 1>know they're trusting me, they're coming up. Well. As soon <v Speaker 1>as I turned that thing on, it was a cheap <v Speaker 1>pair from Amazon. It's got like these two bright ir <v Speaker 1>lights on the back of it, and I mean it <v Speaker 1>looks like two big red eyes. As soon as I <v Speaker 1>clicked that on, I heard one get up and walk away, <v Speaker 1>and it was like a bipedal lumberjack walking through the woods. <v Speaker 1>It didn't run. It was just like and then another <v Speaker 1>one got up and walked off, and then another one <v Speaker 1>got off, and it was three, just like the whistles. <v Speaker 1>But they've never done that since. Now. I know they're <v Speaker 1>there sometimes, like I can hear the owls and stuff, <v Speaker 1>but they're not like coming up to me and just <v Speaker 1>walking around and being loud like they used to be. <v Speaker 1>Or you know now they're a lot more secretive. So <v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that. You're you're doing a good thing, Wendy. <v Speaker 3>Well, the thing is too you could take years of <v Speaker 3>in reaction with them and blow it in one stupid move, <v Speaker 3>like you know, getting me decide. Okay, I've known them <v Speaker 3>for ten years. They know I'm not gonna do anything. <v Speaker 3>I'm gonna sit up a gang camp. And you've lost <v Speaker 3>all that hard work and everything that you put into <v Speaker 3>a relationship with them, and it's gone just that fast <v Speaker 3>because they will pull off so quick. I don't care <v Speaker 3>if they have been around you ten years. All it <v Speaker 3>takes is one time for them to mistrust you, and <v Speaker 3>they would they'll leave. I think, yeah, they won't trust <v Speaker 3>you anymore, So I don't do the game cam and <v Speaker 3>just do things the way we have been doing them, <v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, they're there, but they have gotten <v Speaker 3>a lot more brave and more curious. They're coming up more, <v Speaker 3>letting us know more things. So I think as the <v Speaker 3>years are going to come by, I'm gonna you know, <v Speaker 3>hopefully see more and more and maybe that they'll even <v Speaker 3>communicate as far as coming out of the trees and <v Speaker 3>finally letting us stand there and talk to them, that <v Speaker 3>that would be amazing. I'd probably pass out, But. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's just it's just weird. That's like <v Speaker 2>I said, I still like why us, Why you know, <v Speaker 2>why did they choose us, you know, to. <v Speaker 3>Interact with and stuff? So you know, this is a <v Speaker 3>good I mean, but you get sad though, because you know, <v Speaker 3>it's kind of like when you have people, you know, <v Speaker 3>family down on vacation and then you know it's getting <v Speaker 3>closer for the time for them to leave, and you <v Speaker 3>know you won't see them for months at a time. <v Speaker 3>It's kind of like that when they're we know they're <v Speaker 3>getting ready to leave, like within the next two weeks <v Speaker 3>or so, and then you know we won't see them <v Speaker 3>for I don't know, maybe five five months, five six months, <v Speaker 3>five months, and. <v Speaker 1>You know this because the forest just goes back to normal, <v Speaker 1>just quiet, very quiet. <v Speaker 2>Well it's very quiet. <v Speaker 3>When they're here, but there's it's different. It's different, it's <v Speaker 3>way different. It's an emptiness you just feel. I don't <v Speaker 3>it's hard to describe. It's just something that you feel <v Speaker 3>that you know. <v Speaker 2>That. <v Speaker 3>But we always know they're going to come back. Yeah, yeah, so, <v Speaker 3>I mean, and we start at a certain time of <v Speaker 3>the year, we start leaving stuff out, you know, and <v Speaker 3>if it's not touched, we know they're not back yet. <v Speaker 3>Just like this year, we went down the trail to <v Speaker 3>see if we saw any signs of them being back, <v Speaker 3>and that's when my mom spotted this like broke off <v Speaker 3>pine branch that was over to the side. So I <v Speaker 3>walked over. She says that fresh and I pictured us. <v Speaker 3>It's like they just broke it. And that's the first <v Speaker 3>time we ever heard whistle. Was like up over the hill. <v Speaker 3>They were hiding, they were watching us, and all of <v Speaker 3>a sudden, they just whistled so loud, and my so <v Speaker 3>of my mom let me, she said, I think we <v Speaker 3>need to go now. She knew she knew it was them, <v Speaker 3>and I said, yes, I think we've gone far enough. <v Speaker 2>Back. It's like, I don't know they do. I'm telling you. <v Speaker 3>They do things to let you know certain things. They <v Speaker 3>may not be going to talk to you and say, hey, <v Speaker 3>you can't come any further, but they whistled, they'll do something, <v Speaker 3>crashes whatever, lets you know that that's that's far enough. <v Speaker 3>That's far enough, you know, And we respect that and <v Speaker 3>we turn around and we just we don't run back. <v Speaker 3>My mom can't run just in my way, you know. <v Speaker 3>But we always talk about that. <v Speaker 2>She said, are you gonna leave me behind them? <v Speaker 3>One jumps out in front of I said, heck yeah. <v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not gonna hang around. Are you crazy? <v Speaker 2>I said, better to get you. You lived a full life. <v Speaker 2>I still got a long weeks ago. Dag No, I <v Speaker 2>wouldn't do that. We always joke about that all the time. <v Speaker 2>You know, what will we do when of them jumps <v Speaker 2>out in front of us? And so my mom always. <v Speaker 3>She said, let me go to the bathroom. We walk <v Speaker 3>down there, because you don't never know if they jump <v Speaker 3>out from me. At least I won't peel all myself. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>it's like, yeah, it's just funny. Yeah, just some of <v Speaker 3>these guys. <v Speaker 1>Make a positive thing out of it because just with <v Speaker 1>the activity that you've explained, there are many property owners <v Speaker 1>and families that will take that the completely wrong way. <v Speaker 1>And you know, they will say that these things are <v Speaker 1>you know, pasturing them every day, threatening them, and they <v Speaker 1>just want them gone and they're evil and they don't <v Speaker 1>want anything to do with them. But that's their own choice. <v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, right, I know. <v Speaker 3>And there are people like that. But the thing is <v Speaker 3>that they automatically because there's so many people out there <v Speaker 3>talk evil about on and say, you know, they're vicious. <v Speaker 1>They're nobody wants them around, right, I mean, and. <v Speaker 3>You hear these things, and that's why a lot of <v Speaker 3>people are I think they're more scared than anything. And <v Speaker 3>they're like, they hear these stories about how bad they are, <v Speaker 3>and so they just freak out about it. But if <v Speaker 3>they haven't come up on your property and they haven't <v Speaker 3>destroyed anything that belongs to you. They never have destroyed <v Speaker 3>anything on my mom's property. <v Speaker 1>Every God bless those that have been terrorized. I mean, <v Speaker 1>I'm not oh. <v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, there are people who've had bad experience with them. <v Speaker 1>I'm just talking about people that here I would knock <v Speaker 1>or get a rock thrown at them and they take <v Speaker 1>that the wrong way that they got drove out of <v Speaker 1>the area. <v Speaker 3>You know, I think if they start throwing rocks at <v Speaker 3>you and stuff, I think I don't know if that's <v Speaker 3>a play for them or what it is. <v Speaker 1>But if I toss the little pepple at some body <v Speaker 1>and it barely like missed them, I wouldn't say that's <v Speaker 1>a threat. But I mean if a bowlder comes crashing <v Speaker 1>through the woods, yeah, that's different because you know, like <v Speaker 1>when you're trying to hide and someone doesn't see you <v Speaker 1>and you kind of toss a little pepple, you know <v Speaker 1>you're not trying to you're not trying to hurt them. No, <v Speaker 1>there's a difference. You got to you gotta be able <v Speaker 1>to understand the activity and know when to get out <v Speaker 1>right and know when they're just trying to interact or <v Speaker 1>just communicating around you and letting each other know that, <v Speaker 1>oh you're in the area. <v Speaker 3>Right and you know the thing is too You go <v Speaker 3>by your go by your gut. If your gut tells <v Speaker 3>you to leave. <v Speaker 2>You need to leave. <v Speaker 3>You know, even though we've had you know, the good <v Speaker 3>experiences for two years with them, Like I said, when <v Speaker 3>I heard that crash in the back. I was like, okay, <v Speaker 3>you immediately know what that means that you need to <v Speaker 3>turn around and you need to go back. Don't continue <v Speaker 3>on when they're trying to warn you. That's a warning. <v Speaker 3>You know, you don't want it to come to the <v Speaker 3>next step that Okay, I warned you, but you went <v Speaker 3>too far. Sam will do that this next you know. <v Speaker 3>So we never do that. We always respect them, and <v Speaker 3>you know, you just it's a feeling you get. It's <v Speaker 3>a gut feeling if your hair is raised up and <v Speaker 3>you know something's just not right, turn. <v Speaker 2>Around, walk away. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, same with people. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, when I'm. <v Speaker 1>Around certain people, you can just tell that someone. <v Speaker 3>Oh yes, I can tell immediately if people are good <v Speaker 3>or bad. But you know that's a that's another story. <v Speaker 3>But yeah, but they're there, and you know, we got <v Speaker 3>out another two weeks with them probably and they're getting <v Speaker 3>just more brave every day. It's just getting more uh, <v Speaker 3>you know, care I wouldn't say they're careless, but I <v Speaker 3>think that they know that they're getting ready to leave, <v Speaker 3>and so they did something last year. They showed themselves <v Speaker 3>and my mom swears they're going to show themselves again. <v Speaker 3>I said, well, they basically kind of already did when <v Speaker 3>they ran in front of the window. I mean they <v Speaker 3>were right there in front of you, probably not more <v Speaker 3>than fifteen feet you know, outside the window, you know, <v Speaker 3>And but yeah, that's just you know, I would like <v Speaker 3>to see what they look like, you know, the younger ones, <v Speaker 3>from a distance. So you know, I'm blind as a bat. <v Speaker 3>If I don't have my glasses on, I can't see anything. <v Speaker 3>Were contacts, I can't see anything, and my mom can't hear. <v Speaker 3>So you know, you got the blind leading the blind <v Speaker 3>out there. When we go walking out in the woods. <v Speaker 3>It's funny, but we I mean we enjoy it. We <v Speaker 3>have a good time with it, and we always be <v Speaker 3>cautious always, you know, we carry spray with us. I mean, <v Speaker 3>we have bats. Yeah, And it's not it's not really <v Speaker 3>toward bigfoot. It's mainly because of codies and other animals <v Speaker 3>you may run into. Not it's never been because of them. No, <v Speaker 3>I don't think they would hurt us, you know, I <v Speaker 3>haven't never got that feeling that they would do that <v Speaker 3>to us. <v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. What would you say for the families that <v Speaker 1>are being terrorized by bigfoots or unknown beans? I don't <v Speaker 1>really know, you think they may well follow them. <v Speaker 3>No, I don't know about the following thing, and I <v Speaker 3>kind of yah, I'm on the fence about that whether <v Speaker 3>they will follow you to different areas. But I do <v Speaker 3>think that, you know, I don't know if it was <v Speaker 3>Scott Carpenter some other Bigfoot person that said that, you know, <v Speaker 3>they've been on, Say the property you're looking at, you <v Speaker 3>want to buy this lock having on this land, and uh, <v Speaker 3>you know Bigfoot's been there for five hundred years on <v Speaker 3>that property, Okay, and then you go and you you <v Speaker 3>move in, and they're like, wait a minute, you know <v Speaker 3>this is our this is our They don't look at <v Speaker 3>things the way we do. Yeah, We're like, well, I <v Speaker 3>paid money for this, this is my land, and Bigfoots <v Speaker 3>like I've been here for five hundred years. <v Speaker 2>This is them my land. You know. <v Speaker 3>I think you have to compromise with them. I mean <v Speaker 3>that that group may not want to have anything to <v Speaker 3>do with you or whatever ever. And I think you <v Speaker 3>do like peace offerings kind of like the Indians and stuff, <v Speaker 3>you know back in the day, you know, you you <v Speaker 3>give them, you just do peace offerings to say, okay, <v Speaker 3>you know, I'll leave you alone. <v Speaker 2>That's sure. <v Speaker 3>What you know, you stay over here and I'll stay <v Speaker 3>over here, you know, kind of I think you should <v Speaker 3>do that. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, now not saying all of them are. <v Speaker 3>You know, there's probably some evil ones out there, Don't <v Speaker 3>get me wrong. I'm sure there's some some bad ones <v Speaker 3>and probably some that really hate humans. And you know, <v Speaker 3>of course, in a way, I don't blame them, because <v Speaker 3>you know a lot of humans are you know, out <v Speaker 3>to get them, you know, offer the almighty dollar and <v Speaker 3>that one when you know, one woman of fame. You know, <v Speaker 3>I'm gonna catch me a bigfoot and I want to <v Speaker 3>be famous. And we're the only one who's ever brought <v Speaker 3>one in a lot, you know dead. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like the bad ones have had a <v Speaker 1>family member shot and killed. I don't think they're just <v Speaker 1>bad for any reason, just because they want to be. <v Speaker 1>I think they purely hate humans because obvious reasons. <v Speaker 3>It's just like if we're out, you know, you're walking <v Speaker 3>out the woods with your family or something, all of <v Speaker 3>a sudden one comes rushing out and and you know, <v Speaker 3>cures your your your wife or whatever. You think you're <v Speaker 3>gonna you know, love bigfoot after that, No, because every <v Speaker 3>time you see one, even though that one may be <v Speaker 3>a good one, you're going to relate your experience back <v Speaker 3>to that Bigfoot and say they're all like that, just <v Speaker 3>like putting all humans in the same category, saying we're <v Speaker 3>all bad when we're not all bad. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, maybe if it was a normal thing <v Speaker 1>and there were signs out there, be where Bigfoot and <v Speaker 1>a family member got killed, you would understand, like I <v Speaker 1>knew of being out here, you know, but exactly you <v Speaker 1>there's no information out there, So yeah, how else could <v Speaker 1>you feel? <v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, so that's why it depends on the situations. <v Speaker 3>As far as you know, you hear these. You know, <v Speaker 3>some hunters have got some really good stories about when <v Speaker 3>they the one guy when he was up in the <v Speaker 3>tree stand and the bigfoot just they're out. He was out, <v Speaker 3>he was watching stalk a deer or pig, I can't remember, <v Speaker 3>and he looked up and he's sawing, he could smell ing, <v Speaker 3>and he looked up at him. He said, they lot dies, <v Speaker 3>And he said that was it. <v Speaker 2>Right there. <v Speaker 3>He had this moment of fear and just went running out. <v Speaker 3>They started paralleling him, and but they never touched him. <v Speaker 3>They just were trying to run him out of the <v Speaker 3>woods in that area. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I heard the story of I think it's from Ellington, Missouri. <v Speaker 1>There's a bow hunter at the Current River Conservation area. <v Speaker 1>He was talking about, you know, he was out there <v Speaker 1>hunting and he saw a bigfoot and you know, he <v Speaker 1>was completely hidding and I'm sure being a hunter, he <v Speaker 1>had his wind right, you know, the wind was blowing <v Speaker 1>in his face. But you know, he claims this thing <v Speaker 1>just looked right over at him. You know, it's like <v Speaker 1>it didn't There's no way it could have known that <v Speaker 1>he was there, you know, but somehow it knew. <v Speaker 2>It does that. <v Speaker 3>I think they have an acute sense of hearing and <v Speaker 3>smell and ground vibrations. I think they feel a vibration. <v Speaker 1>Once they get so close to you, they're gonna know <v Speaker 1>you're there. I mean maybe the only way they don't <v Speaker 1>is like when they're super distracted. <v Speaker 3>Exactly as you said, they got to be really distracted <v Speaker 3>and not paying attention. That that's how they're gonna get busted. <v Speaker 3>But how many had how many stories you heard about <v Speaker 3>bigfoot getting like, uh, oh, you know caught? <v Speaker 2>Not many? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean those were That's how I saw them. <v Speaker 1>You know, they seem to have been distracted, like they <v Speaker 1>were both like messing with something on the ground before <v Speaker 1>they stood up and moved like they were so in <v Speaker 1>tune with it. I don't know. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was just like when you were describing the <v Speaker 3>adult male that you had saw and he had white <v Speaker 3>down the sides, you know, I know, back in the day, <v Speaker 3>you know, raising animals and stuff like that. If I <v Speaker 3>you know, if I say a black dog got you know, <v Speaker 3>a real bad wound, and when it heals, the at <v Speaker 3>least white hair in that spot. I wondered just when <v Speaker 3>it had been in like a fight or something. But <v Speaker 3>another bigfoot and he has scars and that's where by <v Speaker 3>the way here because I've never seen a black and <v Speaker 3>white one. I mean, you don't ever hear of one <v Speaker 3>being black with white on it like that? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think that? I mean, yeah, it threw <v Speaker 1>me off when I saw it because I didn't know <v Speaker 1>they could be like mixed color like that. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, that kind of threw me when you see white. <v Speaker 3>And my first thought it came in my mind was <v Speaker 3>I wonder if he was, you know, especially being male <v Speaker 3>that you know, I think they fight for dominancy, who's <v Speaker 3>going to be the top male, and they get in <v Speaker 3>fights and get scars and stuff, and you know, I'm <v Speaker 3>wondering if the white was maybe from another attack from <v Speaker 3>another Bigfoot or something. <v Speaker 1>Experience, or if they're getting old. Yeah, maybe that's just <v Speaker 1>how their code is. I don't know. It threw me <v Speaker 1>off too, because I've never heard that, and I've listened <v Speaker 1>to Sasquatch chronicles way before my you know, i've had <v Speaker 1>encounters with sightings, and I've never really heard that. But <v Speaker 1>after I had my sighting, you know, I started to <v Speaker 1>hear people say that kind of the time, Yeah, that <v Speaker 1>they had white in them, Yeah, more gray. <v Speaker 3>Yes, that's that's why I was wondering, like, I've never <v Speaker 3>heard anybody talk about a black and white one before. <v Speaker 2>But then that's when I thought, that's. <v Speaker 1>Why when I saw it, that was one of the <v Speaker 1>things I really focused in on was the white, you know, <v Speaker 1>because people were like, oh, you know, how did the <v Speaker 1>lips look like, how the nose looked like? You know, <v Speaker 1>And I was staring like at how big it was <v Speaker 1>the white you know, on it and its face as <v Speaker 1>a whole, not just any little individual thing. But yeah, <v Speaker 1>it seemed like other than the bigfoot, the white stripes <v Speaker 1>really like threw me off. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would throw me. <v Speaker 3>And you know it gets me all the time too, <v Speaker 3>is people you know, people who have encounters and say, <v Speaker 3>you know, I saw him and just is what he <v Speaker 3>looked like? And people were saying, well, why didn't you <v Speaker 3>get a picture of him? I don't think that's the <v Speaker 3>first thing on your mind. You know, when you see <v Speaker 3>one that you're going to stand there long enough to <v Speaker 3>you know, have that that kind of bravery and stand <v Speaker 3>there and take a it's your one. <v Speaker 2>You ask what you know? <v Speaker 3>I'm like, you don't know what you would have done <v Speaker 3>if you're in that person's shoes. I know I wouldn't <v Speaker 3>be able to I wouldn't even thinking about my camera <v Speaker 3>would be shaking so bad because I'd be so scared, <v Speaker 3>adrenaline pumping. There's no way I would have got a <v Speaker 3>shot at you know, a good picture of one anyway. <v Speaker 1>Yeah that you don't think camera when you see a <v Speaker 1>big foot. That's the last thing you think about. But <v Speaker 1>you know what, until it's over and then you think, <v Speaker 1>oh man, I should have got the camera or something. <v Speaker 3>But yeah, you ain't got time to think when you <v Speaker 3>see something that you've only heard about and not many <v Speaker 3>people have seen, and you're actually face to face with one, <v Speaker 3>and it's like you can't believe what you're looking at. <v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, well the first thing I saw when <v Speaker 1>it stood up was, you know, is it going to <v Speaker 1>come at me? And it's walking away, you know, So <v Speaker 1>I'm not thinking camera, I'm thinking, you know, my life <v Speaker 1>and exactly exactly. <v Speaker 3>And then when people do get a fairly good shot <v Speaker 3>at one, you're always gonna have your your couch. Folks, <v Speaker 3>you know talking have never stepped foot in the woods, <v Speaker 3>you know, saying that's not a big foot. You know, <v Speaker 3>they got some adde dress up like that. So I mean, <v Speaker 3>it's danged if you do. Danged if you don't. <v Speaker 2>I don't care. <v Speaker 3>You can have the perfect crystal clear picture and they're <v Speaker 3>gonna say a makeup artist did that. That's why it <v Speaker 3>looks so real. <v Speaker 2>You exactly. <v Speaker 3>So you're not gonna win, you know, constantly lose on <v Speaker 3>this whole issue about does bigfoot exist? Does it not exist? Well, <v Speaker 3>in a small area where I'm from, they do exist, <v Speaker 3>because we don't have stuff like that in our area. <v Speaker 3>We just don't have big animals. We don't have big <v Speaker 3>game here. All we had is deer, you know, very rare. <v Speaker 3>Do we have bear? And they're usually up in the mountains, <v Speaker 3>so one or two of kind of you know, come down, <v Speaker 3>you know, out of the mountains, you know, because of <v Speaker 3>food supply, I guess, but. <v Speaker 2>Very rare. Do we have bear around here? Very very rare. <v Speaker 3>And I think we would have already spotted it and <v Speaker 3>on it was a bear already, we would sing scratch <v Speaker 3>marks on trees or things like that that they do. <v Speaker 1>I think it's crazy that people have been put in <v Speaker 1>prison for like little to no evidence against them. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of people all over the world saying <v Speaker 1>this is real, up to like police officers, high ups <v Speaker 1>in the government, paramedics I mean, lawyers, nurses, I mean, yes, <v Speaker 1>the whole melting pot. <v Speaker 2>I don't think it really has a lot with you know, <v Speaker 2>what you do for a living. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, and it doesn't. But every trust, all <v Speaker 1>walks of life are saying that it's real. And I'm saying, like, <v Speaker 1>it only takes people to put you in behind bars <v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. But everybody's saying the <v Speaker 1>same thing, whether you're in Canada or Missouri. <v Speaker 2>But don't matter. <v Speaker 3>Any stay mat Yeah, people are nobody's ever going to <v Speaker 3>believe you, so I don't. I don't tell my story <v Speaker 3>to try. You know, it's great if people want to believe, <v Speaker 3>and they should believe. <v Speaker 2>Don't. <v Speaker 3>Ever, you have odd activity happening on your property and <v Speaker 3>you don't really know what it is, go investigate, try <v Speaker 3>to figure out. <v Speaker 2>What it is. <v Speaker 3>I mean, I would rather know than not know and <v Speaker 3>continue to be scared when I'd rather face it head <v Speaker 3>on and know what I'm dealing with than to ignore it. <v Speaker 3>And it could be nothing that I should be you <v Speaker 3>know here, you know there, you are scared all this <v Speaker 3>time and come to find out it's you know, it's <v Speaker 3>just a big good on your property, you know, But <v Speaker 3>if you don't investigate, I mean, it could be anything <v Speaker 3>from a bear to whatever it comes running through your property, <v Speaker 3>maybe once or twice a week or not even that much. <v Speaker 3>And you know, but I don't understand why people are <v Speaker 3>so scared of them. <v Speaker 2>I guess it's because they're so big. <v Speaker 3>I think if they were not as gigantic as they are, <v Speaker 3>that I don't think we'd be as scared of them. <v Speaker 3>It's the size that really gets you, because you know <v Speaker 3>you're small, and then you look up and you see <v Speaker 3>this huge you know, it can crush you, like right <v Speaker 3>there on the spot. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 1>I think they're beautiful creatures and their majority, but other <v Speaker 1>people think they're hideous and creepy. <v Speaker 3>They can't help the way they look, you know. Like <v Speaker 3>I always say, it's what's inside the counts, not on <v Speaker 3>the outside, because you could be beautiful on the outside, <v Speaker 3>but should be a writen individual on the inside. So <v Speaker 3>you kind of have to go by, you know, what <v Speaker 3>they've been doing to us. We haven't had any you know, <v Speaker 3>negative anything toward them. You know, they haven't done anything <v Speaker 3>to us. We haven't done anything to them, and we <v Speaker 3>just keep it that way. And we don't go down <v Speaker 3>there every day intruding on their territory. They need privacy, <v Speaker 3>just like you know, you don't want somebody to come <v Speaker 3>walk room and stand in your front yard, you know, <v Speaker 3>all every day either. <v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. <v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it's just respect. You know, we <v Speaker 3>should respect other things, and that's how you're going to <v Speaker 3>get respect. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, you know. <v Speaker 3>So, And I think they're not They're not stupid at all. <v Speaker 3>I mean so many people want to they don't they <v Speaker 3>have a mind, and they think ahead of time. I <v Speaker 3>mean they think about what they're gonna do. You know, <v Speaker 3>they're you know, they're always watching. They're on guard all <v Speaker 3>the time. And see, we don't have to be that way, <v Speaker 3>but with them, you know, they have to always be watching, <v Speaker 3>making sure that their family is protected at all costs. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I completely agree. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think ours ours do migrate, And I <v Speaker 3>could be totally wrong. They could just go dead silent <v Speaker 3>in the wintertime. And I've been wrong all this time because, <v Speaker 3>like I say, I'm not gonna knock out anything because <v Speaker 3>I don't know for sure that's exactly what they do. <v Speaker 3>They go up into mountains. But I think when you <v Speaker 3>have such a small family as ours, I think they <v Speaker 3>meet up with other Bigfoot and you know Calng for one, <v Speaker 3>and he's getting older, so you know he might have <v Speaker 3>a girlfriend. You know, you're not gonna you can't keep <v Speaker 3>the population up if you don't go out and meet <v Speaker 3>up with other groups. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean. <v Speaker 3>So that's what I think they they have to do <v Speaker 3>that they and I think this is a small family. <v Speaker 3>I don't think there's the most would be a new <v Speaker 3>one that this you know, it was born to spring <v Speaker 3>this past spring, and that's the newest one, so they <v Speaker 3>would be next year there would be three juveniles unless <v Speaker 3>kong is Uh gets a girlfriend and then he doesn't <v Speaker 3>do the you know, crazy stuff that the little ones <v Speaker 3>are doing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna have to go buy another bear. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they're right, No, he just they like the <v Speaker 3>bigfoot though. I mean, can you imagine? My mom and <v Speaker 3>I would sit there and say, can you imagine what <v Speaker 3>they are? They're looking at things saying that looks like me? <v Speaker 1>You know, that threw them off, and they never they <v Speaker 1>never I thought that was that was gonna come. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's what I'm thinking, because they're really smart. <v Speaker 3>I said, I know, they gotta know that that. <v Speaker 2>Looks like them. <v Speaker 1>I want to try it. <v Speaker 2>You should try it. <v Speaker 3>Yeah I didn't. Now I did leave a white one out. <v Speaker 3>It was a yetty that I had, and I said, okay, <v Speaker 3>we're just gonna, like I said, we try different stuff <v Speaker 3>all the time. That white one out there in a <v Speaker 3>clear bag because we don't want to get wet. So <v Speaker 3>if they don't take it, we can bring it back <v Speaker 3>to the house. So left it out there for probably <v Speaker 3>a week, and then my mom tells them, you know, <v Speaker 3>tells them if you don't want the stuff down. When <v Speaker 3>Wendy left you, then don't you know if I come <v Speaker 3>back tomorrow and still here, then I know you don't <v Speaker 3>want it. So she went back the next day and <v Speaker 3>it was still there, so we just brought it back <v Speaker 3>to the house. So there are some things they they're <v Speaker 3>not going to. They don't just take things to take them, <v Speaker 3>you know, but we take everything they give to us, <v Speaker 3>you know, whether it's a branch they left in the path. <v Speaker 3>It's just the thought that these creatures can think this <v Speaker 3>way and leave us things like it's like they're doing <v Speaker 3>a pattern. <v Speaker 2>They don't. <v Speaker 3>I think they're more selfish probably, you know, and I <v Speaker 3>don't even know if I would call it selfish. They <v Speaker 3>just don't think like we do. We as a human <v Speaker 3>we have to stop thinking that they're gonna react to <v Speaker 3>things like we we think they should react to them, <v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, like they should jump up <v Speaker 3>and down because we left. <v Speaker 2>Them, you know, a blanket. I mean, they don't even <v Speaker 2>know what that is. <v Speaker 1>You know. <v Speaker 3>They're probably like, huh, So you can't get mad because <v Speaker 3>they don't take something you leave, and yet it does <v Speaker 3>kind of hurt your feelings. But then you got to <v Speaker 3>realize that they may not even know what that's for. <v Speaker 3>You know, we've left the brush now, they did take <v Speaker 3>the brush, like immediately that was gone. And I know <v Speaker 3>that my mom has left a spoon down there, left <v Speaker 3>it down there for over a week. My mom was <v Speaker 3>so sure they were going to take the spoon and <v Speaker 3>it was left. She said, I can't believe they didn't <v Speaker 3>take the spoon. I'm like, Mom, do you really think <v Speaker 3>they know what that's for? Well, I think they can <v Speaker 3>get the peanut butter out of the jar better. I'm like, <v Speaker 3>they don't think like we do. When are you gonna <v Speaker 3>stop doing that? They don't think the same way we do. <v Speaker 3>We can't, you know, you got it's a whole different <v Speaker 3>mindset with them than it is with us. Yeah, you know, <v Speaker 3>and it is they're you know, they're kind of still animals. <v Speaker 3>They're kind of still wild, I mean, but they had <v Speaker 3>the ability to think, create, make things, you know, inner react, <v Speaker 3>you know, mimic. You know, talk about that mimic and <v Speaker 3>other animals. You know, I mainly hear its birds, but <v Speaker 3>have you ever heard of it being any other mimic <v Speaker 3>any other animals besides birds? We've only heard birds sounds <v Speaker 3>with hours. <v Speaker 1>So owls, possible dogs, I don't know, deer like grunts. <v Speaker 1>I don't know. I've heard some weird things, things that <v Speaker 1>just sound off yeah, or like you said, like chattering, <v Speaker 1>you know, and sound like people. I haven't heard that, <v Speaker 1>but I've heard it a lot from others. <v Speaker 3>It wasn't really like ah, not like the Sierra. You know, <v Speaker 3>they're just back and forth, just chat and chat and chatting. <v Speaker 3>It was so quick, like, like I said, like five <v Speaker 3>seconds one recent one said something, the other responded back, <v Speaker 3>and that was it. I didn't hear it anymore. And <v Speaker 3>then you start questions if did I hear right? I mean, <v Speaker 3>because they don't keep doing it, and you're like, maybe <v Speaker 3>maybe it's just maybe I didn't hear what I thought <v Speaker 3>or heard. Then you start questioning yourself. But nothing anything <v Speaker 3>I've ever heard. And I know they're out there, and <v Speaker 3>I know all the sounds they make. They don't whoop, <v Speaker 3>you know, like a lot of people, you know, you <v Speaker 3>see on all these shows people going out doing that, <v Speaker 3>and I kind of laugh because I'm like, do they <v Speaker 3>not realize that not all. <v Speaker 2>Of them do that. <v Speaker 3>They don't all hoop or do that whoop kind of noise. <v Speaker 3>I think they all had different make different sounds. I <v Speaker 3>don't think that that's. <v Speaker 1>I'm sure they can mamic people, you know. <v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yeah, I think they can. I definitely <v Speaker 3>think they can. <v Speaker 1>I was sorry to interrupt, hell know your face. This <v Speaker 1>was when I when it was the year when i'd <v Speaker 1>seen them, and I was here in the house and <v Speaker 1>I was watching a show on YouTube called Born and Raised. <v Speaker 1>They go out and elk hunt, but they pretty much <v Speaker 1>do bugle after bugle, you know, trying to call in <v Speaker 1>a bull. But I had the window open, and it <v Speaker 1>was in the summer, and I had the TV turned <v Speaker 1>up really loud because I couldn't hear what they were <v Speaker 1>saying because they're like whispering when they're hunting. When they <v Speaker 1>would go to do the elk call, just be super loud. <v Speaker 1>So my TV was like turned up all the way <v Speaker 1>and it's a big screen, so when they did that <v Speaker 1>elk call, it was really loud, and I tried to <v Speaker 1>turn it down. When that happened. When they're when they're <v Speaker 1>doing that, well, I walked up. I walked up the driveway, <v Speaker 1>and you know, did my thing trying to look for him. <v Speaker 1>This was right before I had the sightings and as <v Speaker 1>I was walking back, I swear one lead out of <v Speaker 1>bugle and it was just like you know, it was <v Speaker 1>so long and drawn out, and it even did the chuckles. <v Speaker 1>It did the chuckles at the end, like when that <v Speaker 1>elk does that long drawn out bugle and at the <v Speaker 1>end it's just like breathing and still doing that bugle. <v Speaker 1>It was just like that, and it freaks Wow. <v Speaker 3>That would freak me out that especially we don't have <v Speaker 3>any moves around here now. That is freaky. Yeah, to <v Speaker 3>hear something like that. But they, like you said, they <v Speaker 3>change it up all the time on you. Why do <v Speaker 3>I mean make she wondered, why do they you know? <v Speaker 2>I guess they would want to always keep you on <v Speaker 2>your toes and not get comfortable with a certain way <v Speaker 2>of things they do. You know, they I think they <v Speaker 2>enjoy it. I think they like tripping you up like that. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. I believe they have a sense of humor. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>Well yeah, especially the smaller ones. Yeah, they're they're like <v Speaker 3>very mischievous. I think the younger one gets in trouble <v Speaker 3>a lot because I think if it was just her <v Speaker 3>and she didn't have Colng with her, I think that <v Speaker 3>she would probably have already been busted by us. We <v Speaker 3>would have already seen her, but he's taught her. I <v Speaker 3>guess they send them out and they teach you. You know, <v Speaker 3>the older ones teach the younger ones things. You know, <v Speaker 3>they learn by example, so you know, but their whistling <v Speaker 3>skills are just. <v Speaker 2>Out of this world. <v Speaker 3>I mean, just amazing that they being such big animals <v Speaker 3>and they can do such you know, elegant like bird <v Speaker 3>whistles and stuff. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got to be. It's like a parrot, Like <v Speaker 1>when a parrot hears something like mamics it. That's what <v Speaker 1>a bigfoot can do. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly the same thing. <v Speaker 1>You know. <v Speaker 3>I've never heard them do dog calls or like I said, <v Speaker 3>you know, the big one is the whooping. Never ever <v Speaker 3>have heard the whoop or anything like that. <v Speaker 2>No. <v Speaker 3>Now you have heard like snorting, which is very rare. <v Speaker 3>But we do hear like a kind of like a <v Speaker 3>you know, when a horse kind of like naise, I <v Speaker 3>mean just with his nose and his lips, just kind <v Speaker 3>of it kind of like that. <v Speaker 1>We're the sort you'll hear like a snort, and then <v Speaker 1>you'll hear like the exhale the breath like a horse. <v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've heard the same thing. <v Speaker 3>But no, and I haven't heard the exhale, but I <v Speaker 3>have heard the snort. And then you're like listening, like <v Speaker 3>are they going to do it again? Just like they <v Speaker 3>only do it like one time. It's not like a <v Speaker 3>big thing they do. But the whistling, they just constantly <v Speaker 3>will will whistle answer you. Every time you whistle, they're <v Speaker 3>gonna whistle back. <v Speaker 1>You know. <v Speaker 3>Birds don't do that. When you whistle, they're gonna whistle back, <v Speaker 3>you know. You know what I'm saying. It's like my <v Speaker 3>mom and them care on a conversation, you know, and <v Speaker 3>it's like she'll whistle, they'll whistle. A bird normally will <v Speaker 3>just fall off of that. He won't stay with that <v Speaker 3>very long and he'll fly off somewhere. But they're right <v Speaker 3>there on it. They'll match her. For every whistle she does, they'll, <v Speaker 3>you know, they'll do it back. <v Speaker 2>And they know. <v Speaker 3>And another thing, when does an animal whistle? Wait and <v Speaker 3>whistle when it sees you come out the door. I mean, <v Speaker 3>they watch my momm They know when she comes, she's <v Speaker 3>gonna come out the back door to let the dogs out, <v Speaker 3>and they start whistling to her. They let her know <v Speaker 3>immediately that they're there, you know. Yeah, and she said <v Speaker 3>it just got there. Every time she walked out, they <v Speaker 3>would whistle to her every time. They were constantly right <v Speaker 3>there under her, watching her at all times. They watched <v Speaker 3>her feed the birds. Like I said, they learned how <v Speaker 3>to turn the water hose on because of her. You know, <v Speaker 3>they watch everything people. <v Speaker 1>I mean to realize how intelligent they really are. <v Speaker 3>Exactly, you know, they're just very smart, very very smart. <v Speaker 3>It just amazes me every time something, you know, always <v Speaker 3>new coming up with them that they're gonna do that. <v Speaker 3>You say, I don't never do that, then they do it. <v Speaker 3>It's like they're they're reading your mind saying, oh you <v Speaker 3>don't think I can do that. We'll watch this, you know, <v Speaker 3>and then they'll do they'll do it, and you're like wow. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>They say that like music and stuff that I've never <v Speaker 3>went out you know and you know, play music or <v Speaker 3>anything out in the woods for them, but they say <v Speaker 3>that they're drawn in by you know, like music and <v Speaker 3>just laughter and that kind of like draws them in <v Speaker 3>to be more curious about what's going on and stuff. <v Speaker 3>I don't know about that because we don't you know, <v Speaker 3>we don't do that like, and I would think that <v Speaker 3>would be something more at nighttime, when they're really lively <v Speaker 3>at night. <v Speaker 2>And not during the day. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, But uvenis are active at all hours. <v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter it's early, first thing in the morning, <v Speaker 3>in the afternoon, that night. They're constantly always around. They <v Speaker 3>have been a hours, have been now. They may alternate <v Speaker 3>taking you know, breaks and sleeping and all, but I <v Speaker 3>think the majority of the time they sleep. During day <v Speaker 3>it's just so hot. I mean, but you can walk <v Speaker 3>in the woods here in our area and it's ten <v Speaker 3>degrees cooler. Once you hit the woods, just like all <v Speaker 3>of a sudden, it's just like cool, you know, like wow, <v Speaker 3>this really is a lot cooler back here, you know. <v Speaker 3>But you can't like wander off the path too much, <v Speaker 3>and you can eat up by red bugs and chicks <v Speaker 3>and everything else, even though you spray. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like if we could do it with that, Yes, <v Speaker 2>it is, but it's worth it. <v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I wouldn't trade it for anything, <v Speaker 3>you know, I just eat up by red bugs. But <v Speaker 3>but it's been worth it to me, and I always <v Speaker 3>make sure I spray really good going down there. But <v Speaker 3>but yeah, that's we've had a really good experience so far, <v Speaker 3>and like I said, they're getting ready to leave, probably <v Speaker 3>in the next couple of weeks. Probably, you don't never know. <v Speaker 3>It just gets really quiet and the back. <v Speaker 2>You know. That's how we knew. <v Speaker 3>Last year's when they didn't take anything out of the bucket, <v Speaker 3>we knew that. <v Speaker 2>We just we knew they were gone kind of it. <v Speaker 3>My mom just wanted to say, let me leave stuff <v Speaker 3>in there, just to see, and she did. She left <v Speaker 3>stuff in the bucket and we went down the next <v Speaker 3>day and checked it and it was all still there. <v Speaker 3>So we knew they had already left, because they're not <v Speaker 3>going to leave anything, you know, in that bucket. You know, <v Speaker 3>even if they don't like it, it's coming out of <v Speaker 3>the bucket. It's going to hit the ground or whatever. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. You've dealt with the activity <v Speaker 1>enough to know when it's not happening exactly. <v Speaker 3>Just so many things that happen, you know. It's like <v Speaker 3>anytime you start questioning, you know, whether they're there, they're <v Speaker 3>always going to come up with something to let you <v Speaker 3>know that, yes, we are here. Every time you have <v Speaker 3>a doubt, any doubt at all that you have in <v Speaker 3>your brain, and you start thinking, well maybe it's maybe <v Speaker 3>it's a deer or it's a coady. But you know, <v Speaker 3>people say, well, anything can get in that bucket. I'm like, no, <v Speaker 3>it can't. It's gonna get stuck in the bucket. It's <v Speaker 3>what's gonna happen if it doesn't have to turn the <v Speaker 3>bucket and jump out of it, you know. But then <v Speaker 3>my mom has a smaller one and it's on this <v Speaker 3>little piece of nub that any small animal is gonna <v Speaker 3>knock that bucket down on the ground. There's just no way. <v Speaker 3>And we've never found it on the ground again. It <v Speaker 3>goes with the heavy peanut butter jars. I mean, do <v Speaker 3>you think a raccoon could pick that up out of <v Speaker 3>a bucket as heavy as it is and then take <v Speaker 3>the lid off of it. <v Speaker 2>I don't think they have fingers and stuff. <v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe take it out of the bucket, because <v Speaker 1>you know they got fingers. <v Speaker 2>And arm it's pretty heavy. <v Speaker 1>I mean not twist it off. <v Speaker 3>No, Yeah, that we twisted on pretty tight now and <v Speaker 3>they'll take it off now. You will see like teeth marks, <v Speaker 3>like on the lid itself. But I thing that's where <v Speaker 3>little animals have come by and they not on all <v Speaker 3>of them, but some of them you'll see like bike <v Speaker 3>marks on it. But you know that there's no way <v Speaker 3>they could take the lid off. There's just no way. <v Speaker 3>Now it's cracked or something like that. Possibility opened it <v Speaker 3>by cracking. <v Speaker 1>It loose, but uh, it's it takes hands. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, And what's gonna eat? You know, my mom, we <v Speaker 2>leave so much food. <v Speaker 3>There's not one animal by itself is gonna sit there <v Speaker 3>and eat all that food in that bucket. <v Speaker 2>There's just no way, there is no ways. Too much <v Speaker 2>food and. <v Speaker 3>It's all gone. We even walk out in the woods. <v Speaker 3>They eave their trash everywhere, but they leave it. You know, <v Speaker 3>you could actually tell where they walk because you'll see <v Speaker 3>one You'll see, uh, one bag, and then you walk <v Speaker 3>a little bit more and you'll see another bag. And <v Speaker 3>it's like it's like you know, Hansel and Gretel, you know, <v Speaker 3>leaving the bread crumbs. <v Speaker 2>Follow the trail. <v Speaker 1>I know there's private researchers that have you know, experienced that, <v Speaker 1>and they've went as far as, you know, getting a container, <v Speaker 1>putting the Snickers bars and whatever treats and gifts they <v Speaker 1>got inside the container. They bury a hole about a <v Speaker 1>foot deep. They put the container in there, put the <v Speaker 1>flat rocks, a bunch of flat rocks that are heavy <v Speaker 1>on top of the container, put the dirt back on there, <v Speaker 1>and put all the leaves back. And they come back <v Speaker 1>like three days later, and the snicker bars are gone, <v Speaker 1>but the containers back in the ground with the rocks <v Speaker 1>on top of it and the dirt. <v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. <v Speaker 1>So yeah, you can take it further if you wanted to. <v Speaker 3>And you can start because they're watching you anyway. They're <v Speaker 3>watching everything you do, so they know how you're doing it, <v Speaker 3>you know, like I would not have ever believed if <v Speaker 3>I hadn't believe with the with the waterfis and that's <v Speaker 3>pretty hard for an animal, any animal to cut on. <v Speaker 3>You gotta have fingers and stuff to twist it and <v Speaker 3>to take the bag off. <v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. <v Speaker 3>They've watched my mom and do this a numerous of <v Speaker 3>times before they decided to do. <v Speaker 2>It on their own. <v Speaker 3>And they don't have to turn it back off though <v Speaker 3>the things an't add to turn it on, but they <v Speaker 3>don't have to turn it off. They've done that several times, <v Speaker 3>but they just started doing that in the last month <v Speaker 3>or so with the water faucet. They haven't messed with <v Speaker 3>that at all until now. Now, I will take you. <v Speaker 1>To get really hot when they did that. Was it <v Speaker 1>really hot out like a drout or something. <v Speaker 2>No, No, really, this has actually been the cooler days. <v Speaker 2>You know. <v Speaker 3>It's like I said, it's only been evenly doing the <v Speaker 3>like start aback four weeks ago. <v Speaker 2>They started with the water faucet. But my mom goes out. <v Speaker 3>Every single day and late she does it later in <v Speaker 3>the afternoon, so the water will be cold, and she <v Speaker 3>uh dumps the water out of the bird water and <v Speaker 3>then she has one of those rules, those cement like <v Speaker 3>bird baths, and she fills it up with water, clean <v Speaker 3>cold water every day. So they drink the water, all <v Speaker 3>the water out of that my mom see, every time <v Speaker 3>she feels it up depends on, you know, like you said, <v Speaker 3>how hot it is in a certain day that they'll <v Speaker 3>drink all of it, there won't be any left in it, <v Speaker 3>or there will just. <v Speaker 2>Be just you know, maybe half of it gone. <v Speaker 3>And we thought about deer, but uh, you know, deer, <v Speaker 3>we're not gonna sit there, and that thing's pretty big <v Speaker 3>and they're not gonna drink all that water out of <v Speaker 3>that bowl. Yeah, So that's one reason I know they <v Speaker 3>don't eat all the deer around my mom's house, because <v Speaker 3>there's still you know, active deer that are out in <v Speaker 3>the back and in the front of the house, and <v Speaker 3>so they don't just kill just to kill. I think <v Speaker 3>they kill when they're you know, they need to eat. <v Speaker 3>That's pretty much what I think. I don't think they're <v Speaker 3>crazy animals out there just killing everything insight and you know, <v Speaker 3>destroying all animals or whatever. <v Speaker 1>I don't. <v Speaker 2>I just don't think they're that way. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. <v Speaker 3>I would love to talk to one and care on <v Speaker 3>conversation with one of be nice. And that's why I <v Speaker 3>always these people who mine speak, Why don't they do <v Speaker 3>simple things? Why do you got to go over our <v Speaker 3>head and talk about all this, you know, other planets <v Speaker 3>and stuff that we're from some other planet. Why don't <v Speaker 3>you ask them questions about like I said earlier, about <v Speaker 3>arches and what does that mean? You know, I want <v Speaker 3>to know simple things. I don't care where you came from. <v Speaker 3>If you came from Mars, I don't care you're living <v Speaker 3>here now, and I want to know what you're doing. <v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, we can't even figure out where we <v Speaker 1>came from, so trying to figure out where they came from, Well, <v Speaker 1>you just skipped a bunch of steps. And like I said, <v Speaker 1>I'm not ridiculing. I just want to figure out the <v Speaker 1>simple stuff because I'm a signed guy. You know, I'm not. <v Speaker 1>I'm not a researcher. I just love to hunt fish, <v Speaker 1>be out there, be out there in the forest, and <v Speaker 1>I just want to know the simple things. <v Speaker 2>That's me. Just give me the simple things. You know. <v Speaker 3>How do they build their houses? Do they stand the <v Speaker 3>same location all the time? <v Speaker 1>Why are they communicating? <v Speaker 2>Yeah? <v Speaker 3>Why do they Why do they choose certain people to <v Speaker 3>communicate with and show themselves to? That's Those are the <v Speaker 3>simple things I want to know. Don't go over my <v Speaker 3>head about other stuff. I mean, that's fine. If you <v Speaker 3>could communicate with them in that way, more power to you. <v Speaker 3>But I don't want to know that stuff. I won't, <v Speaker 3>Like you said, I want to know the simple basic <v Speaker 3>things of daily life for them. What do you do <v Speaker 3>during the day, I mean, what do you do at night? <v Speaker 2>You know? <v Speaker 1>Yeah? And if all those things are real, like the <v Speaker 1>mind speaking things. You know. I'm religious or I'm a <v Speaker 1>Christian and I kind of believe that God cut us <v Speaker 1>off from all that we're not supposed to do that. <v Speaker 1>So there are beings doing that we're not supposed to <v Speaker 1>go that far. I just want to understand it as <v Speaker 1>far as how we can deal with it and how <v Speaker 1>we can teach others that they exist. <v Speaker 2>Well, my thing is too. <v Speaker 3>I mean, you could take somebody that doesn't even speak English, <v Speaker 3>you know, and there are ways you can communicate with <v Speaker 3>with anybody or anything by just activities things they do, <v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. I mean you don't actually <v Speaker 3>have to speak their language to be able to communicate <v Speaker 3>with them, just for simple things, you know. I mean, <v Speaker 3>like I said, we found out a lot about them <v Speaker 3>in two years. This year has been the most you <v Speaker 3>know about Yes, they do get in trouble. They do <v Speaker 3>get punished, I think by the Alphas when they do <v Speaker 3>things they're not supposed to do. We kind of thought <v Speaker 3>that was funny in a way, but then we like, <v Speaker 3>you know, it's kind of sad because he wouldn't I <v Speaker 3>think he wouldn't let them come up to the to <v Speaker 3>get anything for like I said, for like twelve days <v Speaker 3>we counted every day we didn't hear a whistle, you know, <v Speaker 3>and then that one day we went down there and <v Speaker 3>left something and got in the house, went back out <v Speaker 3>of the deck, and probably five minutes after being out there, <v Speaker 3>we heard this really strong. <v Speaker 2>Whistle and we're we just couldn't believe that. <v Speaker 3>We were so happy, you know, like, oh my god, <v Speaker 3>they know we took this stuff down there, and they're <v Speaker 3>telling us thank you, you know kind of things. So, yeah, <v Speaker 3>they let us know when they get stuff. But now <v Speaker 3>here recently, they've just gone off the rails and they're <v Speaker 3>just kind of like all over the place about doing <v Speaker 3>stuff every I mean, they're not consistent right now about nothing. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, nothing is about them. But in your situation, like <v Speaker 1>you guys are getting the whistles a daily. <v Speaker 2>Yeah we were. <v Speaker 3>Now they halfs are whistling, but they're nowhere near what <v Speaker 3>they were doing with us as far as whistling every <v Speaker 3>single day. You know, I'll text my mom or someone said, <v Speaker 3>they whistle today, No, they haven't. They been so quiet, <v Speaker 3>you know, and then just could go on for two <v Speaker 3>or three days and then she'll hear and whistle. You know, <v Speaker 3>it's not a daily. As soon as she walks out <v Speaker 3>the door, she can't expect them to whistle back. It's <v Speaker 3>very sporadic now she never knows now when they are <v Speaker 3>going to whistle at her or whatever. And then they <v Speaker 3>did that crazy whistle that I I don't think i've <v Speaker 3>you've heard that yet with the different tone of whistle. <v Speaker 3>But there's two of them out there and they were <v Speaker 3>they were chatting back and forth with each other, and <v Speaker 3>my mind would sporadically just jump in and try to <v Speaker 3>whistle like that. But it was mainly between them two <v Speaker 3>that they were doing that that bird type whistle to <v Speaker 3>each other because one would like, do three, the other <v Speaker 3>would answer back in two, and then the other one <v Speaker 3>would say, you know, whistle once, and so they were <v Speaker 3>never consistent. It's like one did three and the other <v Speaker 3>did three. So what you know, it's like a language. <v Speaker 3>They were like back and forth. <v Speaker 2>With the whistle. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was pretty interesting. But they've only done that once. <v Speaker 3>We have not heard them do that again anymore. We <v Speaker 3>thought maybe they you know, switched up their whistling technique, <v Speaker 3>but it was just a sporadic thing. They just did <v Speaker 3>that out of the blue, just one time. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I think it's a really rare thing and <v Speaker 1>you should cherish it. You know, not very many people <v Speaker 1>get the experiences no activity on this planet. <v Speaker 2>I don't know. <v Speaker 3>I guess I've prayed and prayed so many, so many time. <v Speaker 3>It's about just you know, want to be you know, <v Speaker 3>inter react with one. Take whatever I can get. That's <v Speaker 3>why I say now, I'll take whatever I can get. <v Speaker 3>If they don't want to ever show theirself to me, <v Speaker 3>that's fine, doesn't matter. They're still there and they still <v Speaker 3>communicate with us, but just in a different way. It <v Speaker 3>would be nice if they come out and you know, <v Speaker 3>walk into woods with us or whatever. <v Speaker 2>That would be super cool. <v Speaker 3>But you know, I don't see that happening anytime. Thing <v Speaker 3>maybe in another two or three, maybe two years when <v Speaker 3>they really but every year they get a little bit trust, <v Speaker 3>more trusting and more trusting. But it's not a fast <v Speaker 3>thing like you can meet somebody and you come friends <v Speaker 3>with them, and fast friends get They don't do. They're <v Speaker 3>totally different and that they're very stand office for the <v Speaker 3>longest time, and then they gradually move in on you <v Speaker 3>a little bit of time, a little bit at a time. <v Speaker 3>So next year, hopefully all have a lot more stories, <v Speaker 3>for a lot better ones. <v Speaker 2>Maybe. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure you'll be back on the show just <v Speaker 1>because of how much activity you have and the way <v Speaker 1>you're going about it on. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if anybody has any questions they want to <v Speaker 3>ask me, if I can answer them. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, be more absolu. <v Speaker 3>More than glad to answer any questions. And I've probably <v Speaker 3>forgot stuff that since I hang up, I remember, I'll <v Speaker 3>be like, oh I forgot to tell you know, tell <v Speaker 3>you about that's just so much, you know, and just <v Speaker 3>some pops of my mind and I tell the story <v Speaker 3>about that. But well, yeah, the biggest things are you <v Speaker 3>know about the feeding traits, you know how you know <v Speaker 3>how we do it, and it's somebody else is out <v Speaker 3>there and they may have just started having activity with <v Speaker 3>some you some of the things that we do. <v Speaker 2>Don't ever intrude. <v Speaker 3>That's the biggest mistake you can make, is you keep <v Speaker 3>going back there constantly intruding on them. I don't think <v Speaker 3>that's a good thing to do. That If they know <v Speaker 3>you daily walk, that's one thing. But just to go <v Speaker 3>back there and be nosy all constantly, I don't think <v Speaker 3>they would appreciate that too much. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, Yeah, don't try to trick them. <v Speaker 3>No, don't ever try to do that, because I don't <v Speaker 3>think the end result is going to be good. <v Speaker 1>I think it's okay to put up deer cameras because <v Speaker 1>you're looking for deer sign. You know, they can see <v Speaker 1>what you're tracking, what you've been looking at. Maybe you're <v Speaker 1>looking at a rub and then you put up a <v Speaker 1>camera you know there in that area. They know that <v Speaker 1>type of stuff. But when you try to like sneak <v Speaker 1>it in there, sneak it in the gifts or the <v Speaker 1>gift basket, that's that's no. <v Speaker 3>No, yes, a very big no no. So yeah, I <v Speaker 3>would never. They're smart. <v Speaker 2>They know when people putting game cams out there for <v Speaker 2>your hunting. They know that. I mean they know they <v Speaker 2>see that. <v Speaker 3>But they also know the difference between you know, a <v Speaker 3>hunter and somebody casually trying to go out there and <v Speaker 3>capture them to you know and film. <v Speaker 1>So you know, yeah, they know when you're looking for them, <v Speaker 1>you're doing obvious knocks or I don't know, you're just <v Speaker 1>standing there staring looking for the activity. <v Speaker 3>They know, yeah, and they're starting or watching you out <v Speaker 3>you know, deep in the woods and sitting there laughing <v Speaker 3>at you, saying, oh, they're just being so stick. You know, <v Speaker 3>they probably laugh at us over a lot of stuff <v Speaker 3>that we do. You know, think we're being like really <v Speaker 3>smart and stuff, and they're like shaking their head going <v Speaker 3>you know, man, these humans can be so stupid sometimes, <v Speaker 3>you know what I. <v Speaker 1>Mean, very possible, I'm sure, but. <v Speaker 2>You know, I like things the way they are. <v Speaker 3>And like I said, you know, maybe one day you <v Speaker 3>can come out and do a documentary on our area. <v Speaker 3>I just don't trust too many people, you know, coming <v Speaker 3>out to the property. <v Speaker 1>I love you. <v Speaker 3>My mom's just really very curious about anybody goes out there. <v Speaker 3>She doesn't want anything disturb with them, doesn't want them <v Speaker 3>to get upset in any way. And you know, like <v Speaker 3>I told her, I said, well, if they're with us, <v Speaker 3>it's different. They may they still may not do anything, <v Speaker 3>which I don't think they will. You kind of have to. <v Speaker 3>They're very active and especially at night. You may get <v Speaker 3>activity at night with them, you know here on you know, <v Speaker 3>through the woods and stuff like that, but as far <v Speaker 3>as them getting up close on you, you and they <v Speaker 3>may even do. <v Speaker 2>That, I don't know. <v Speaker 1>You expect it exactly like when you're driving down the <v Speaker 1>road and a jeep you're not you're not ready for. <v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, no, you're not. <v Speaker 3>So we you know, we've enjoyed our experience so far, <v Speaker 3>and I'm just looking forward to next year. This year's <v Speaker 3>almost over, so I don't think they'll be doing too <v Speaker 3>much more, but that get ready to leave and then <v Speaker 3>you know, we just look forward to them coming back <v Speaker 3>next year and be ready for him with maybe new <v Speaker 3>things we've learned, you know, that we can do to <v Speaker 3>try to communicate with them and stuff. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I wanted to say, I appreciate you including <v Speaker 1>me and all that, and oh yeah, become really good <v Speaker 1>friends and time and yes. <v Speaker 3>Yeah you feel into my feed, but you know, if <v Speaker 3>you want to tell my story and it's just weird. Ever, <v Speaker 3>other people, you know, come on your channel and say <v Speaker 3>to say that it's just something about your channel, and <v Speaker 3>it just drew me in, and I'm like, I think <v Speaker 3>this is a guy, you know, because you're so honest <v Speaker 3>and so true about you know, you don't interrupt your <v Speaker 3>great interviewer. And I just noticed that, you know, some <v Speaker 3>people want to jump in and interrupt, and you just <v Speaker 3>let people tell their story. <v Speaker 1>And you know, I appreciate it. I'm a center just <v Speaker 1>like anybody else. <v Speaker 2>Yeah, we all are what you're talking about. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, I enjoy talking to you about it, <v Speaker 3>and I hope everybody enjoys my story and likes it. <v Speaker 3>Either you don't, you do, or you don't you believe me, <v Speaker 3>or you don't believe me, So it's not gonna make <v Speaker 3>me feel bad one way or the other. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And I wanted to say I really appreciate <v Speaker 1>all the donations you've made towards the channel and all <v Speaker 1>the support. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, anytime I would continue to support you. <v Speaker 2>Yeah. Thanks. <v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I think that wraps it up. I know, Okay, <v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're gonna think of stuff later. <v Speaker 2>But of course I always. <v Speaker 1>Thank you for being on the show, Wendy, And if <v Speaker 1>you have any questions, you know my number. <v Speaker 2>Yep. Thanks, Miguel. I appreciate you having me on. And <v Speaker 2>you have a great day. <v Speaker 1>Yep, not a problem. You have a good one, all right. <v Speaker 1>Byeh It's very interesting to hear Wendy's experiences with the <v Speaker 1>Bigfoot and how she goes about interacting with them. Gifting <v Speaker 1>has been used by many people as a method to <v Speaker 1>see a Bigfoot or in the area, With curiosity being <v Speaker 1>at Bigfoot's number one weakness. Gifting can often yield results <v Speaker 1>if frequently done in the right manner. It would be <v Speaker 1>best practice in an area that has sasquatch, or if <v Speaker 1>you think they're coming up to your property. I don't <v Speaker 1>recommend it because not all sasquatch groups are as kind <v Speaker 1>as the ones coming up to Wendy's mother's house. But <v Speaker 1>the option is there if someone feels the need to <v Speaker 1>figure out what is happening around their property. Just always <v Speaker 1>be aware that things may not always go the way <v Speaker 1>you think or want them to go. I want to <v Speaker 1>thank Wendy for being such a great guest on the channel, <v Speaker 1>and of course for being such a great right friend. <v Speaker 1>I hope you always have your head on a swivel, <v Speaker 1>and I have a good feeling you will be back <v Speaker 1>on the show in the future. Anyways, that's all we <v Speaker 1>have for today, and I hope you guys have a <v Speaker 1>happy Thanksgiving. Catch you guys on the next one.
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