INTENSE BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS IN THE ARKANSAS RIVER BOTTOMS | (IT WAS STANDING IN THE RIVER!)

<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
<v Speaker 1>this episode, we have Day from Arkansas and he has
<v Speaker 1>some really terrifying encounters that he wants to share with
<v Speaker 1>all of us. I was really excited to speak with
<v Speaker 1>another person who has had a lot of encounters and
<v Speaker 1>experiences like myself, and especially from the Ozarks. It really
<v Speaker 1>makes you wonder if these creatures can mark or tag people.
<v Speaker 1>But on another note, a black bear can travel up
<v Speaker 1>to forty miles in one day. I just think it's
<v Speaker 1>very intriguing that one hunter can have experiences no matter
<v Speaker 1>where he goes in the forest, and the next hunter
<v Speaker 1>has never experienced anything in his life. If you have
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot encounter that you would like to share with me,
<v Speaker 1>please contact me sometime and if you guys can support
<v Speaker 1>the channel in any way possible, I would like to
<v Speaker 1>take a moment to thank the viewers and the people
<v Speaker 1>who have supported the channel. It really means a lot
<v Speaker 1>and I could not do this without you guys. All right,
<v Speaker 1>with all that being said, let's dive into our next
<v Speaker 1>set of bigfoot encounters from the state of Arkansas. All right, Dave,
<v Speaker 1>Welcome Sasquatch Theory how are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>Doing well? How are you doing, my friend?
<v Speaker 1>I am doing excellent. Thank you so much for asking
<v Speaker 1>if you would, Dave, tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and your encounters and experiences from the
<v Speaker 1>very beginning.
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I reside in a small town called Malvern, Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of the arm pit of the world. Vowed
<v Speaker 2>not to come back to this discomp but I had
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity and my dad was starting getting age and
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have such a good relationship. So I ended
<v Speaker 2>up moving down here when you start to getting sick,
<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't trade the relationship I built with my
<v Speaker 2>dad for nothing. I mean, it was a good move,
<v Speaker 2>but it put me back, put me back in the
<v Speaker 2>middle of all my experiences that I've had over the years.
<v Speaker 2>My first experience I had was what we call the
<v Speaker 2>Saginaw Bottoms here in Arkansas. And you know, my childhood
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that great and it wasn't real safe for me
<v Speaker 2>to be at the house when my dad wasn't there.
<v Speaker 2>So with that said, that put me Dad get up
<v Speaker 2>do breakfast. I'd get up New Breakfast with him, and
<v Speaker 2>then I would grab my twenty two, my or my
<v Speaker 2>shotgun or my fishing powe in my tackle box, and
<v Speaker 2>I hit the woods. So that's not being safe for
<v Speaker 2>me at home. Put me out in the woods a lot.
<v Speaker 2>So I hunted, fished, and trapped, you know, for I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I oftene my childhood and stuff. As soon as I
<v Speaker 2>learned how to set the trap, I was setting traps
<v Speaker 2>and catching couldn't and possums, foxes and whatnot. And that
<v Speaker 2>started bringing me up to my first encounter. I think
<v Speaker 2>it was about seventy five, nineteen seventy six, somewhere right
<v Speaker 2>around in there. I think I was about fifth grade
<v Speaker 2>or so. And there was a lot that led up
<v Speaker 2>to this. You know, I could hear vocalizations, I could
<v Speaker 2>hear heavy footsteps, I saw tree breaks, you know, there
<v Speaker 2>was just a lot of stuff. And I've spent years
<v Speaker 2>in these woods and never have seen anything like this.
<v Speaker 2>And I remember talking to my dad about it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and that's like, oh, you just you know, it's probably
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of deer, maybe some hogs, And really we
<v Speaker 2>didn't have all that much deer in our area. We
<v Speaker 2>did have a few, but they weren't as populated as
<v Speaker 2>they are today. And even hogs you know, so that
<v Speaker 2>kind of ruled it out. We don't have any bears
<v Speaker 2>around here. I think there's some now, but back then,
<v Speaker 2>you know, you never saw a bear or anything. And
<v Speaker 2>that's what my dad was doing. Well, it could have
<v Speaker 2>been a bear down there. I said, that ain't no
<v Speaker 2>bearer than woods. And I said, but I'm hearing this stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm seeing this stuff. And I can remember there
<v Speaker 2>for a while that winter probably and maybe seventy four
<v Speaker 2>that I started trapping, and I would take my trapping bait.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we were poor, so you had to, you know,
<v Speaker 2>improvise it that and overcome. So you just made your
<v Speaker 2>own stuff for trap bait, and I would We had
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of like nine stock ponds in the river
<v Speaker 2>Washtall River was there, and of course sagon all bottoms
<v Speaker 2>and the slew and all that kind of stuff, Lots
<v Speaker 2>of beaver, lots of squirrels, stuff like that. So I'd
<v Speaker 2>catch a bunch of perch and i'd stuff them off
<v Speaker 2>in a jar, a mason jar, and then I would
<v Speaker 2>bury them in the ground in the spring, and by
<v Speaker 2>the time trapping season got here, well, they were pretty ripe,
<v Speaker 2>to say the least. So I would take these jars,
<v Speaker 2>and I would take them and put them on my
<v Speaker 2>trap lines and I'd hide them in a hollow log
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. But I've got to noticing that
<v Speaker 2>something started getting into my trapping stuff, my bait that
<v Speaker 2>I used. Sometime a jar would be gone. Sometimes the
<v Speaker 2>lid would be not untwisted, but like the brass ring
<v Speaker 2>would be just it was like it was pride off
<v Speaker 2>and throw it to the side and then you might
<v Speaker 2>find an empty jar there. And I was telling my dad, Dad,
<v Speaker 2>I said, something down there getting into my end of
<v Speaker 2>my trapping day. I said, it's tearing the lids off
<v Speaker 2>my Mason jars. And uh, he still wants a bear's son.
<v Speaker 2>It's a bear And like I said, there's no bears
<v Speaker 2>down there. But I remember getting up. It was on
<v Speaker 2>a Saturday morning and Dad had to work that Saturday,
<v Speaker 2>so I was up early and headed out the house.
<v Speaker 2>I had my single shot twenty two. I had my
<v Speaker 2>tackle box and my fishing bow. And there was a
<v Speaker 2>certain place where the spring fed stream would go into
<v Speaker 2>that washed the backside of the Washtaw River down in
<v Speaker 2>the slough that you could catch a lot of perch,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and back then you catch them big hand
<v Speaker 2>sized perch, so they were a good eating perch, and
<v Speaker 2>so I will frequently, you know, fish that area. But
<v Speaker 2>as you got into that area, the stream was like
<v Speaker 2>way low and you had to come up over this
<v Speaker 2>brow to get to where it entered into the river
<v Speaker 2>back in that slough. And I remember going going to
<v Speaker 2>that that fishing spot that morning, and as I come
<v Speaker 2>up over that brow, I'm kind of, you know, kind
<v Speaker 2>of looking to the side a little bit, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because I'm always looking for deer, squirrels or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, when I got about halfway up that and
<v Speaker 2>it's just like maybe ten feet to where the water
<v Speaker 2>is and the water's kind of deep there, and then
<v Speaker 2>it kind of funnels into the backside of the Washtaw
<v Speaker 2>River and there he was standing in the water, and
<v Speaker 2>as I come up, I just froze, and he saw
<v Speaker 2>me and I saw him, and it was kind of
<v Speaker 2>like both our miles were open, and it was it
<v Speaker 2>was like a shot, and I remember a scent so overwhelming,
<v Speaker 2>just petrified, that freeze type fear, and I couldn't move.
<v Speaker 2>My brain's telling me to run, and I can't do anything.
<v Speaker 2>My feet are like concrete semented to the ground and
<v Speaker 2>he's looking at me, and I'm looking and it seemed
<v Speaker 2>like it was forever, but I know it was just
<v Speaker 2>a few seconds, and he was standing in knee deep water. Now,
<v Speaker 2>this didn't look like what I have seen here of
<v Speaker 2>late as far as the sasquatch. That's why I can
<v Speaker 2>describe this. It looked like a wild man. It looked
<v Speaker 2>like a wild man had long hair on it had
<v Speaker 2>like three to four inch hair on its body, but
<v Speaker 2>I remember his hair being a lot longer going across,
<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of his hair was kind of
<v Speaker 2>like it wouldn't really like dreadlocks, but it was pretty
<v Speaker 2>nasty and stuff, and it kind of hung down in
<v Speaker 2>his face. And we're setting here looking at each other.
<v Speaker 2>And now he's almost eye level with me, which would
<v Speaker 2>put him probably I would have to say, at least
<v Speaker 2>eight to ten feet tall, and we're sitting there looking
<v Speaker 2>at each other. I if you ever seeing him, like
<v Speaker 2>them cartoons or something, screams real loud and it just
<v Speaker 2>kind of blows the person's hair and everything. That's what
<v Speaker 2>it felt like. When this thing finally let out a screen.
<v Speaker 2>That screen hit me. It vibrated everything in my body.
<v Speaker 2>And when it screamed, of course, twelve year old kid,
<v Speaker 2>I instantly dropped my tackle box and my fishing pole.
<v Speaker 2>But I had my twenty two rifle in my hand
<v Speaker 2>and didn't even think about the twenty two rifle. But
<v Speaker 2>you know that twenty two wouldn't have done nothing to that.
<v Speaker 2>And I hate say on your channel, but I instantly
<v Speaker 2>wet my britches. I mean, it just it just happened.
<v Speaker 2>It just won't there it was, and I'm standing there
<v Speaker 2>froze with I mean, wetting on myself when this thing
<v Speaker 2>screaming at me and he pulled back his left arm
<v Speaker 2>in his hand, and remember he's standing in knee dig water,
<v Speaker 2>but his arms were when he pulled back and hit
<v Speaker 2>that water to splash that water, his hands was even
<v Speaker 2>though he's in knee water, his hands were below his knees.
<v Speaker 2>And when he hit that water and it splashed up
<v Speaker 2>on me and hit my face, that kind of you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm still in that freeze moment. That kind of I
<v Speaker 2>guess woke me up, so to speak. And I remember
<v Speaker 2>taking flight out of there and running to the house.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think I've ever run from the
<v Speaker 2>woods down by the river to the house without ever stopping.
<v Speaker 2>But I made I blazed the trail. I blazed the
<v Speaker 2>trail out of there, and my dad went home from
<v Speaker 2>work yet and I went to my grandpa and I'm
<v Speaker 2>all huffing and puffing. He's like, son, what's wrong with you? Son?
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with you? And my grandpa and me been
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, and he told me what he called
<v Speaker 2>it was a hain. He said, there's a haint down there.
<v Speaker 2>And he told me about stories of his encounters with
<v Speaker 2>the big guys when he was a tree topper. A
<v Speaker 2>young man is a tree topper up in Idaho when
<v Speaker 2>they cut them big trees down and stuff, and there
<v Speaker 2>was a couple of stories that he told me. But
<v Speaker 2>he called it a hang. He said, boy, is a
<v Speaker 2>hangt down there. I've been trying to tell you there's
<v Speaker 2>a hant down there. Don't you go back down there?
<v Speaker 2>And there woods? And Grandpa, I said, my fishing pole,
<v Speaker 2>tackle boxes down there, and I said, go with me.
<v Speaker 2>He said, I ain't going down there, and he wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>go in the woods now that he knew there was
<v Speaker 2>a hang down there. And uh. I Finally when Dad
<v Speaker 2>got home, I told him, of course, he thought I
<v Speaker 2>was losing my head, said it was you saw that
<v Speaker 2>but a bear down there, And I said, Daddy, I
<v Speaker 2>got to go get my fishing pull in my tackle box.
<v Speaker 2>And he ended up the next day Sunday, going down
<v Speaker 2>going down there with me to get my fishing pull
<v Speaker 2>tackle box, and they were there. The tackle box was open,
<v Speaker 2>and of course there was lures scattered, you know, hook scattered,
<v Speaker 2>weight scattered, all my stuff and my tackle box was
<v Speaker 2>scattered all over the place. So I gathered up. We
<v Speaker 2>looked for tracks. Never found no tracks. Now, prior to this,
<v Speaker 2>I did see tracks down there and stuff kind of
<v Speaker 2>building up to that. But one thing that I took
<v Speaker 2>away from that, you know, I used to coon hunt.
<v Speaker 2>I grabbed my dog Jake, a tree and walker and
<v Speaker 2>we'd go coon in and I, by myself didn't. I
<v Speaker 2>was never afraid to be in the woods at night,
<v Speaker 2>you know, And after that instance, I automatically became scared
<v Speaker 2>of the dark, and you couldn't get me when the
<v Speaker 2>sun went down. My tail was in the house. It
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter that sun started going down. I'm heading to
<v Speaker 2>the house. And I stayed scared in the dark until
<v Speaker 2>I was probably eighteen years old. I mean, I would
<v Speaker 2>still go back out hunting as I got into my
<v Speaker 2>teens and stuff, but there had to be you know,
<v Speaker 2>three or four of my buddies or some of my
<v Speaker 2>dad's buddies because they coon hunted as well. I would
<v Speaker 2>go out in the woods with them. But I never
<v Speaker 2>went out in the woods by myself anymore. That was
<v Speaker 2>out of the question. And so I ended up leaving
<v Speaker 2>home about the age of fifteen and kind of traveled
<v Speaker 2>around quite a bit and finally ended up and I'm
<v Speaker 2>just going to fast forward a whole bunch, but finally
<v Speaker 2>ended up in New Mexico back in the mid eighties.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was where I started having some more vocalizations.
<v Speaker 2>In New Mexico, there's not many trees. There's more just
<v Speaker 2>like brushes and stuff, and a lot of mountain area
<v Speaker 2>you got once you got to the mountain and then
<v Speaker 2>you got to your trees and stuff like that. And
<v Speaker 2>it's where I've had several encounters out in New Mexico,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, just just out there deer, especially when
<v Speaker 2>I started bow hunting, and I'd get out there by
<v Speaker 2>myself and I you know, out there, you just don't
<v Speaker 2>sit in a stand. You can't like it here in Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you throw out a corn feeder and set
<v Speaker 2>up in the stand out there. You hunted, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you had to, you know, across the mountains and Glass
<v Speaker 2>Forever and whatnot. And I had several sightings out there.
<v Speaker 2>You know, nothing real close, no close encounters, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of vocalists, a lot of sightings, uh you
<v Speaker 2>know from afar off across the canyon or something like that.
<v Speaker 1>If you would tell me about these vocalizations and the encounters,
<v Speaker 1>tell me what you were doing that day, what happened.
<v Speaker 2>Well, we were, we were out the first time I
<v Speaker 2>saw one. We were out there was a place that
<v Speaker 2>I called my lucky hope and and that's where I
<v Speaker 2>went to Deerham. That was the first spot that I
<v Speaker 2>hit because there was always, for probably five or six years,
<v Speaker 2>there was always a buck up there, a nice buck.
<v Speaker 2>And this particular morning they dropped me off. And of
<v Speaker 2>course they'd go and hit their areas and stuff, and
<v Speaker 2>I'd just call them on the radio, Hey, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I've got got one down, Come pick me up. This
<v Speaker 2>is where'm I at. But it was a big, huge
<v Speaker 2>canyon that I would walk in and when I first
<v Speaker 2>got out of the truck, and the truck was still driving.
<v Speaker 2>Also it's making noise and stuff, and I heard the
<v Speaker 2>first one vocalized. I heard a scream. And when I
<v Speaker 2>heard that scream, it just it was kind of like
<v Speaker 2>a lightning boat went through my body because that triggered
<v Speaker 2>me all the way back to my first sighting when
<v Speaker 2>I was twelve years old, and I almost just just said,
<v Speaker 2>forget it. I'm you know, but I'm standing there. I've
<v Speaker 2>got my I had a three hundred weather be Magnum built.
<v Speaker 2>There was precision, you know, I can knot bear down
<v Speaker 2>with eight hundred yards of this gun. And I'm like, no,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go up in here because I can see
<v Speaker 2>a long ways, you know, So I know this thing
<v Speaker 2>is not going to be close to me. And so
<v Speaker 2>I start making my way down the canyon in the
<v Speaker 2>bottom and started working my way up on the left
<v Speaker 2>hand side, going up beside the canyon. So I got,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the bottom of the canyon, and I'm probably
<v Speaker 2>a quarter way up from the top, and this sucker
<v Speaker 2>is huge, deep canyon and I'm working up and then
<v Speaker 2>I start hearing rocks kick up on the right hand side,
<v Speaker 2>and so I swung my rifle around because I figured
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of a brushy and I figured there
<v Speaker 2>would be a butt coming out of there. But when
<v Speaker 2>I put my scope up there it was and all
<v Speaker 2>I saw he was almost all the way up to
<v Speaker 2>the top. All I saw was this black figure with
<v Speaker 2>long hair, you know, heading up the canyon. And it
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I mean, there's no way I could
<v Speaker 2>run up that canyon, Like there's no way any human
<v Speaker 2>can run. He made ground, you know, just I mean,
<v Speaker 2>and he was up and over, you know, just as
<v Speaker 2>fast as like a deer went. This thing was there.
<v Speaker 2>I heard the vocalizations first, so I knew there was
<v Speaker 2>one in there, but I didn't know where. And by
<v Speaker 2>the time I got problem a quarter three quarter up
<v Speaker 2>that canyon, or about a half up that canyon, he
<v Speaker 2>was on that right hand side and probably maybe one
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards from from the top of the mountain. From
<v Speaker 2>the top of that canyon, and when I was watching
<v Speaker 2>him through that scope, i've ever seen him face because
<v Speaker 2>he was heading out of there when I was watching him.
<v Speaker 2>I had a five thousand dollars sized sniperscope on this
<v Speaker 2>so I could zoom in to see a matchplot and
<v Speaker 2>you could see this This one w wasn't like the
<v Speaker 2>first one I saw. This one was like clean in
<v Speaker 2>his I can remember seeing the muscle tone in his
<v Speaker 2>legs and in his body as he was running up
<v Speaker 2>and getting out that canyon. But his hair shined. I
<v Speaker 2>thought he was silver, but I guess that was what
<v Speaker 2>the sun was shining off that black hair, because it
<v Speaker 2>was real glossy type. And he made his way up
<v Speaker 2>maybe one hundred yards, and then he was across the top.
<v Speaker 2>I never saw him from the front. All I saw
<v Speaker 2>was the backside one up there to try to find tracks,
<v Speaker 2>but it's real shell rock type stuff up there, and
<v Speaker 2>grounds extremely hard, so I couldn't find any tracks there.
<v Speaker 2>And there was several instances like that. I'd be up
<v Speaker 2>turkey hunting, you know, and you'd hear a whoop while
<v Speaker 2>I was turkey hunting, you know. And like when I
<v Speaker 2>left New Mexico and come back to Arkansas and I
<v Speaker 2>started encountering these things again. I'm like, especially in the
<v Speaker 2>area that I'm at now. You know, my cousin's been
<v Speaker 2>hunting down there all his life and ain't never saw nothing.
<v Speaker 2>His dad's been down there, his brother hunts down there,
<v Speaker 2>even my older brother hunts down there, and he's been
<v Speaker 2>hunting down there in that area probably five or six
<v Speaker 2>years before I even got on this hunting lease, and
<v Speaker 2>they never saw nothing. But as soon as I get
<v Speaker 2>on the lease. It wasn't the first year, but the
<v Speaker 2>second year, I had my first encounter down there, and
<v Speaker 2>and in hearing you know when that took place. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>we got the internet now and I started, you know,
<v Speaker 2>pouring into the internet every sighting ever, like your show
<v Speaker 2>what is It? Dixie Crips. I listened to his show
<v Speaker 2>a lot where people ride in and tell about their
<v Speaker 2>sightings and stuff, and I noticed something that that I
<v Speaker 2>had it. It was kind of like, I'm not saying,
<v Speaker 2>these things are following me around, which would be impossible,
<v Speaker 2>I would think. But you know, when I had my
<v Speaker 2>first encounter. Now, my brother hunted them woods, My daddy
<v Speaker 2>hunted them woods. You know, we all hunted them woods.
<v Speaker 2>Nobody ever saw anything but me. When I was out
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico, There's tons of people that would hunt. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>we had a big camp and stuff. They never saw
<v Speaker 2>anything that stuff, but I did. And now I find
<v Speaker 2>on this new hume least that I'm on and I've
<v Speaker 2>been out there probably about five years now, where I've
<v Speaker 2>had most of my counters up to date. Nobody down
<v Speaker 2>there seeing anything. Of course, they all think I'm crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Daddy said I was crazy when when I had my
<v Speaker 2>first siding. But I know these creatures are real because
<v Speaker 2>I have seen them face to face. But getting to
<v Speaker 2>my Arkansas encounters now, the first encounter I had in
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas was I was bow hunting and I had a stand.
<v Speaker 2>It's like twenty twenty feet twenty five feet off the ground,
<v Speaker 2>big ladder stand, big comfortable Cadillac is what I call it.
<v Speaker 2>And I would park my side by side. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>back then I had a four wheeler. I hadn't bought
<v Speaker 2>my side to side yet, but I parked my side
<v Speaker 2>a side probably or my four whead probably one hundred
<v Speaker 2>and fifty yards down the road. And then I would
<v Speaker 2>loan up this old logging road and there's a clear
<v Speaker 2>cut on one side, and then it's all big heavy
<v Speaker 2>pines and hardwoods on the other side. And then I
<v Speaker 2>come to this place and it kind of opens up
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit, and then there's a long lane
<v Speaker 2>down past that opening that I went up on a
<v Speaker 2>pine tree and I put that big ladder stand up there,
<v Speaker 2>and then I had a feeder, a game feeder. Now
<v Speaker 2>we got a lot of hogs, and I did. We
<v Speaker 2>do have bear in that area, not many, but we
<v Speaker 2>do have bear. I've only had one experience with a
<v Speaker 2>bear for one year, and it was a collared bear.
<v Speaker 2>I had him on game cabs and stuff. So I
<v Speaker 2>set my feeter up way high where the hogs couldn't
<v Speaker 2>tear it up, where a bear couldn't set up. So
<v Speaker 2>the top of my feet is about eight eight and
<v Speaker 2>a half feet because I ended up going back and
<v Speaker 2>measuring how high it was, and it was dark. I've
<v Speaker 2>got my little light on. I usually put it pretty
<v Speaker 2>straight at the ground when I'm walking in there, real quiet.
<v Speaker 2>I had my bowl with me, and then I had
<v Speaker 2>my block on my hip, which I always carry a farm.
<v Speaker 2>And when I rounded that corner, I just kind of
<v Speaker 2>scanned the area as I was walking in there, and
<v Speaker 2>when I scanned past my feet, I noticed eye shine
<v Speaker 2>and so I just stopped real quick, and then my
<v Speaker 2>life started going up. And when I saw those eyes
<v Speaker 2>looking around that big pine tree, and these eyes were man,
<v Speaker 2>they were like not as big as baseballs, but in
<v Speaker 2>between the baseball in a golf ball. I mean they
<v Speaker 2>were huge, and they were like way set far apart,
<v Speaker 2>and I can't see the whole thing. All I can
<v Speaker 2>see is eye shine because it's standing probably three or
<v Speaker 2>four foot behind my feet in the tree line there,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking at this thing, and then all of
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, that same fear that I felt when I
<v Speaker 2>encountered my first one hit me again, and it's like
<v Speaker 2>the hairs on the back of my neck and my
<v Speaker 2>hairs on my arms started standing up, and I almost
<v Speaker 2>went into a panic again this time. Thank god, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't win the bridges, but I did later on. I'll
<v Speaker 2>tell you about that a little bit. But I see
<v Speaker 2>this thing. I'm identifying what it is. It's something that
<v Speaker 2>is very extremely tall, and I'm thinking, okay, this is
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch. And you know, I've seen tree breaks down.
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't hurt any vocal aization, but I did find
<v Speaker 2>some tree breaks and stuff. And I'm sitting there and
<v Speaker 2>I'm frozen place, and I'm like, my gearstand is probably
<v Speaker 2>maybe twenty five yards to my left, and my four
<v Speaker 2>before is one hundred and fifty yards back down the road,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm weighing this decision as I'm setting there looking
<v Speaker 2>at this eye shot, and I didn't hit it directly
<v Speaker 2>in the eyes. I put the light down just a
<v Speaker 2>little bit, maybe chest high or waist high on this thing,
<v Speaker 2>but I could still look up and see the eye
<v Speaker 2>shot because I didn't want to hit it in the eyes,
<v Speaker 2>because that would I was afraid it would make it mad.
<v Speaker 2>And and I'm sitting here debating do I need, you know,
<v Speaker 2>do I need to run back by my four wheeler
<v Speaker 2>or do I need to just go to my stand.
<v Speaker 2>So I ended up making it to my stand. So
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of sidestep as I'm watching this thing,
<v Speaker 2>and I've got my backpack on, I've got my pistol on,
<v Speaker 2>I got my my bow. So I start making up
<v Speaker 2>this ladder, you know, watching I said, got about about
<v Speaker 2>through the trees, not in his not in his eyes.
<v Speaker 2>And I make it all the way up to the
<v Speaker 2>stand and this stand, it's one of those ladder stands
<v Speaker 2>where two people can set up in the stand. And
<v Speaker 2>I got this sucker surrounded with bird lap top and bottom,
<v Speaker 2>you know, where the gear can't come up underneath the
<v Speaker 2>tree and see my see my feet or anything. So
<v Speaker 2>I get up there, and I'm setting up there in
<v Speaker 2>my tree stand. I got my light off, I put
<v Speaker 2>my bat to the side. I pulled my pistol out
<v Speaker 2>and I point it right between my legs, and I
<v Speaker 2>was praying. You know, I was like, God, you know
<v Speaker 2>what I saw, and I don't want to be no
<v Speaker 2>happy meal. So you know, you need to let that
<v Speaker 2>sun come up real quick. Because the sun it was
<v Speaker 2>still dark. Son had come up and I sat there
<v Speaker 2>and then I could I could hear his footsteps underneath
<v Speaker 2>my stand and it tinged the ladder. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if they slapped it or thumped it or whatever, and
<v Speaker 2>it tinged the ladder and scared. I was already scared,
<v Speaker 2>but when it teemed the ladder, I'm thinking, oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>this thank's fixing it come up this ladder at me,
<v Speaker 2>and I could hear it walking. You could hear heavy
<v Speaker 2>footsteps underneath me, and it's still dark. I got my
<v Speaker 2>forty between my legs and I got a laser on there,
<v Speaker 2>so you know all I got to just hit that
<v Speaker 2>laser and then I've got a fifteen round magazine in it.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sitting there praying to God, Lord, don't let
<v Speaker 2>this thing eat me. Don't let it, you know, yanke
<v Speaker 2>me off this tree. I don't want to be a
<v Speaker 2>hat sasquatch, happy meal or anything. And I can hear
<v Speaker 2>it smith the air every once in a while, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you could hear it, and you could hear it heavy breathing,
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of made some tracks around my stand,
<v Speaker 2>and then before the sun come up, it just kind
<v Speaker 2>of wondered off and I never saw anything after that.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until about three days I want a head
<v Speaker 2>and hunted. But after that, I didn't go to my
<v Speaker 2>stand until the sun was up and are barely coming
<v Speaker 2>up to where I could visually see what the heck's
<v Speaker 2>going on around me. I didn't go back down there
<v Speaker 2>in the dark, and I seen something that I went
<v Speaker 2>up there. Filled up my corn fier about three days later.
<v Speaker 2>Two three days later, and I was heading out and
<v Speaker 2>I saw I saw a wolf. And I've never seen
<v Speaker 2>a wolf in this area, but I've never seen a
<v Speaker 2>wolf this big before. This thing took up that whole path,
<v Speaker 2>crossing the logging road in front of me, down where
<v Speaker 2>this little creek is, and his his pods were like huge,
<v Speaker 2>huge footprints and stuff. And I drove up to where
<v Speaker 2>it was and kind of where it crossed, and tried
<v Speaker 2>to see it, but it was it was already gone.
<v Speaker 2>And I went. I went from there all the way
<v Speaker 2>to camp, and I asked my cousin. I said, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I said, is there any wolves down here? Have you
<v Speaker 2>ever seen anyone? He's like, boy, you know I lost
<v Speaker 2>you every loved my name. No woolves here, I said, dude,
<v Speaker 2>I swore I saw a wolf. There was a wolf
<v Speaker 2>that crossed the road in front of me, and from
<v Speaker 2>the tip of his nose to his tail, I said,
<v Speaker 2>it took up the whole road. It's the biggest dog
<v Speaker 2>gone wolf I've ever seen. And it was silver, kind
<v Speaker 2>of a darkest silver. And so I blew that off.
<v Speaker 2>Now that was three days later. Of course, I found
<v Speaker 2>it odd too that hardly anybody killed deer that year.
<v Speaker 2>It was the worst year and deer season down there.
<v Speaker 2>I talked to one old man down there, plug, and
<v Speaker 2>he said, man, I've been hunting down here since I
<v Speaker 2>was a kid. And he's in his like late seventies.
<v Speaker 2>He said, I've never seen a year where the deer
<v Speaker 2>w wasn't down here like this, down in the bottoms
<v Speaker 2>and you know, whether I saw a sasquatch or whether
<v Speaker 2>I saw a dog man that, I don't know, but
<v Speaker 2>I know I saw a wolf go across that. And
<v Speaker 2>it was too huge. It was too big to be
<v Speaker 2>an average wolf. And I've seen some big woolves. I
<v Speaker 2>had a buddy of mine that used to raise them
<v Speaker 2>things they're huge, but this would make two or three
<v Speaker 2>of them. And so that was besides seeing tree breaks
<v Speaker 2>when we're out there. I started spending more time in
<v Speaker 2>the woods down there finding tree breaks. There was one
<v Speaker 2>tree that I found was out hog hunting. It was
<v Speaker 2>probably ten inches big around and probably five six foot up.
<v Speaker 2>This tree had been twisted. I'm talking twisted. This whole
<v Speaker 2>tree was twisted in a section probably about a foot
<v Speaker 2>foot and a half. This thing was the whole. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it was just just one section. It's like something grabbed
<v Speaker 2>it twisted this thing almost all the way around and
<v Speaker 2>then just laid it over. And I've got pictures of
<v Speaker 2>that I can send you. But I just kept noticing
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that down there. And I had got into
<v Speaker 2>another lease that was next to the lease that I
<v Speaker 2>was in on is where it really started picking up.
<v Speaker 2>Because I was down on the opposit side where I
<v Speaker 2>was hunting at. I was hunting down in the bottoms
<v Speaker 2>and I started hunting down there, and being a new
<v Speaker 2>guy on the lease, you know you're slim pickings on
<v Speaker 2>finding you a spot because I go out in the
<v Speaker 2>woods and I start looking for signs feeding, where the
<v Speaker 2>water and where the trails are and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>And every time I found a good spot, all had
<v Speaker 2>to stand there for a little bit and I find
<v Speaker 2>somebody stand So there stands all over down there. And
<v Speaker 2>I ended up going and asked and Plug, which he's
<v Speaker 2>the president of Release or he was at this time,
<v Speaker 2>and he said, well, there's a place over here, but
<v Speaker 2>there's a place over here on the beaver pond. He
<v Speaker 2>said that would be a good place right there. I
<v Speaker 2>went to the beaver pond and and look that over
<v Speaker 2>and then look more promising there. Now. I had a
<v Speaker 2>few encounters down there by the beaver pond, three that
<v Speaker 2>I'll share with you. The first one I had, And
<v Speaker 2>what I did is I went in and I didn't
<v Speaker 2>set up a tree stand or anything like that. I
<v Speaker 2>set up a ground line. And this where the beaver
<v Speaker 2>pond is, some of it has water like when in
<v Speaker 2>the rainy season here it fills up, but in the
<v Speaker 2>late fall it kind of sinks a little bit, and
<v Speaker 2>there's some kind of plant that grows in that. And
<v Speaker 2>then when you walk across it just like walking across marsh.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's you can hear the water down below you,
<v Speaker 2>but you can still you won't get your feet wet,
<v Speaker 2>but you can walk across this pond. And so I
<v Speaker 2>set up my groundblne, put out a corn feeder, put
<v Speaker 2>out some game cams and stuff, and there's some deer
<v Speaker 2>and stuff coming in there. But I'm remember one afternoon,
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting in that stand and I heard the
<v Speaker 2>first vocalization down in that area, and it was like
<v Speaker 2>when I heard it, it was like everything come back
<v Speaker 2>to hair on my neck stood up and it was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, and it and I han't gone fur
<v Speaker 2>much past the beaver pond where I planted my ground line,
<v Speaker 2>and it was probably fifty yards. I didn't know it
<v Speaker 2>at the time, but there's another creek that runs back there.
<v Speaker 2>I found out the next day. But that thing was,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, vocalations a lot, just making weird top sounds,
<v Speaker 2>weird top noise. Every once in a while it would whoop,
<v Speaker 2>but just crazy sounds, and I could hear it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>going down back over there by the creek where I
<v Speaker 2>found out the next day, and then it kind of
<v Speaker 2>took a right and kind of went in the woodline
<v Speaker 2>in front of me, probably one hundred hundred and fifty yards.
<v Speaker 2>And by the time it hit there, it's getting late
<v Speaker 2>in the evening. The sun hadn't completely went down. But
<v Speaker 2>when it hit there, that's when I just kind of
<v Speaker 2>lost it. I mean, fear took over and it's like,
<v Speaker 2>I am getting out of here. So I step out
<v Speaker 2>of my ground line, I zip it up. I've got
<v Speaker 2>my gun on ready, you know, and I'm kind of
<v Speaker 2>looking around, walking in circles, trying to, you know, get
<v Speaker 2>back to my full eater, which is probably twenty five
<v Speaker 2>fifty yards down the road. Got on my full eater
<v Speaker 2>and I hauled but out of there, and I remember
<v Speaker 2>going back telling my wife at the time, I was like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I heard vocalizations down there. I said, there's
<v Speaker 2>a squatch down there. I have no doubt. And so
<v Speaker 2>I went back to hunting that ground line the next day.
<v Speaker 2>But I went after the sun come up where I
<v Speaker 2>could see and I got in my groundb line. I
<v Speaker 2>just sat there and I kept contemplating on what I
<v Speaker 2>heard the next day, and I don't know why I
<v Speaker 2>didn't pull out my cotton pick an iPhone and hit record.
<v Speaker 2>You know. I guess I was in too much fear.
<v Speaker 2>It didn't even cross my mind until the next day.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, kicking myself in the butt, why didn't
<v Speaker 2>you record those sounds? Because they were long, long, And
<v Speaker 2>so I was like, well, I'm gonna go back here
<v Speaker 2>and see what I can find. So I text my wife.
<v Speaker 2>She was on another deer stand. I text her and
<v Speaker 2>I said, Hey, I'm going on a walking about and
<v Speaker 2>she said, you're going to go look for that thing.
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, I'm gonna go look and see where
<v Speaker 2>I could what I could find behind me, because I
<v Speaker 2>haven't been that far back there yet because the woods
<v Speaker 2>around the it's been clearcutted at one time, and then
<v Speaker 2>once the clear cut, you know, once they come in
<v Speaker 2>there and hauller out, all of the logs and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and all these little trees grow up. But it's so
<v Speaker 2>bushy and thick and whatnot, so you can't see very
<v Speaker 2>far into the woods. And I told her, I said,
<v Speaker 2>if I ain't back in a couple hours. I said,
<v Speaker 2>Sendy Calvary and she said, okay. So I got my
<v Speaker 2>gun on my backpack and I kind of walked down
<v Speaker 2>this little road logging rod for a little bit. Had
<v Speaker 2>come to find that creek, and so I'm kind of
<v Speaker 2>looking around the creek and whatnot for footprints and stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that. And I finally found a footprint, but it
<v Speaker 2>was down in the bottom, and I've got a picture
<v Speaker 2>of this, and then I zoomed in picture of the track.
<v Speaker 2>You can tell there was a heavy footed track there,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, I'm gonna go down there, and
<v Speaker 2>then it just kind of hit me, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>the and the thought that hit me is this is
<v Speaker 2>an ambush spot. Don't go down there. This is what
<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing in my brain, and I'm kind of just
<v Speaker 2>kind of froze. I took my phone out and get
<v Speaker 2>a panoramic picture of everything that was around me, and
<v Speaker 2>then I zoomed in on the track and took a
<v Speaker 2>picture of the track, and then I just kind of
<v Speaker 2>went on down and tried to follow where I heard
<v Speaker 2>the sounds at and come back up. I never found it.
<v Speaker 2>I've only found that one print that was down in
<v Speaker 2>the bottom and it looked like it across that creek,
<v Speaker 2>and there's there's a lot of cypress woods down there
<v Speaker 2>and cypress stump sticking out of the ground and whatnot,
<v Speaker 2>And so I followed all down. Then then there was
<v Speaker 2>a road that went up to the right. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>even know that was there, and I got probably about
<v Speaker 2>maybe a quarterways down that road, and that's where I
<v Speaker 2>found the tree breaks, and I got photographs of all this,
<v Speaker 2>but probably twelve fifteen foot in the air, there was
<v Speaker 2>a group of trees, probably three or four of them,
<v Speaker 2>where the tops had just been and these ain't These
<v Speaker 2>ain't dead trees. These are green trees, and the tops
<v Speaker 2>were popped out of them and they were laid neatly
<v Speaker 2>across that trail, and got I got photographs of all that,
<v Speaker 2>and I found that, you know, pretty fascinating. You know,
<v Speaker 2>did the sasquatch poppies cover this trail to kind of say, hey,
<v Speaker 2>don't be coming down here. So that kind of that
<v Speaker 2>kind of biogered me up a little bit, and so
<v Speaker 2>I continue hunting down there, and it was kind of
<v Speaker 2>late in the season. I never heard anything or anything
<v Speaker 2>like that, but I did go down there kind of
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting cocky, getting a little brave, and uh
<v Speaker 2>so I started going back down there to hunt because
<v Speaker 2>I had a nice buck on the on the on
<v Speaker 2>the deer cam or on my trail camp, and I
<v Speaker 2>was like, I got to get that buck. And he
<v Speaker 2>was coming in there early in the morning and run it,
<v Speaker 2>you know, a little bit before the sun come up.
<v Speaker 2>Uh he would kind of hang around as the sun
<v Speaker 2>light enough to shoot and then he would just exit
<v Speaker 2>out and leave. And so that prompted me to get
<v Speaker 2>down there and before the sun come up. So I'd
<v Speaker 2>go down there about an ire for the sun come up. Well,
<v Speaker 2>this morning it was thunderstorms were moving in. It wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>raining or anything like this, but thunderstorms were coming in,
<v Speaker 2>and it was lightning. When it enlightening, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>wind was blowing a little bit, but when it enlightening,
<v Speaker 2>it would turn you know, I lighten, it turns the
<v Speaker 2>night into day. I mean it's a brief few seconds
<v Speaker 2>that you know, you can see everything. It's just like
<v Speaker 2>noon time. And I'm sitting there in that ground line
<v Speaker 2>and I hear a stick pop behind me, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it kind of like jolted my heart. You know,
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, you know, kind of scared me. But
<v Speaker 2>that's all I heard was that stick. And I'm setting
<v Speaker 2>in my chair and my groundbline is one of those
<v Speaker 2>ones where it has you know, the deals all around
<v Speaker 2>two sides and then it's a cameo screen and then
<v Speaker 2>you pull the insides down. You can still see through
<v Speaker 2>that screen a good way out there, but it's like
<v Speaker 2>nobody can see in. So I'm sitting there in that stand.
<v Speaker 2>I heard this stick pop behind me. It kind of
<v Speaker 2>gave me a shot, and it's lightning, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>winds beginning to pick up and stuff. And then all
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, I get this overwhelming sensation that there's
<v Speaker 2>something out there. I'm being watched. You know. The hair
<v Speaker 2>back up on my neck starts coming up, and my
<v Speaker 2>heart's beating fast, you know, and I'm in that you know,
<v Speaker 2>flight freeze or fight mode. And so I'm sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, don't let that be a big foot.
<v Speaker 2>Don't let that be a big foot. And I'm kind of,
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting brave, and I'm looking out. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm still setting in my chair, but I'm getting up
<v Speaker 2>close to look out to see what I can see,
<v Speaker 2>if I can see around the corner of that blind,
<v Speaker 2>because the backside there, it has a big window, and
<v Speaker 2>that window I had tied up to where they couldn't
<v Speaker 2>see me moving through the because if you open the backside,
<v Speaker 2>then that you can see through that stuff, that camouflage stuff.
<v Speaker 2>It's I always kept the back closed where the door
<v Speaker 2>was and the sides were. And I'm leaning over in
<v Speaker 2>my chair and I'm looking to see if I can
<v Speaker 2>see around the corner of my hunting blind. And I'm looking.
<v Speaker 2>I'm real close, and I've almost got my face right
<v Speaker 2>up to the deal and the lightning strikes. Now this
<v Speaker 2>sucker is standing directly behind my stand. This ground blind's
<v Speaker 2>probably maybe five six foot off the ground, I guess,
<v Speaker 2>and the best I can ascertain, because I saw him
<v Speaker 2>sideways and he's behind me, looking over sideways into that
<v Speaker 2>blind and I never knew he was there. And I've
<v Speaker 2>got my face right up there. This thing is probably
<v Speaker 2>twelve inches from my face. And the lightning strikes and
<v Speaker 2>he sees me. I see him. He screams. I scream.
<v Speaker 2>I fell over in my chair and I was in
<v Speaker 2>flight mode and I'm trying to crawl out the side
<v Speaker 2>of my blind where there's no window or anything. I
<v Speaker 2>can hear him like a freight train, like a plow,
<v Speaker 2>and like a diesel or a bulldozer going through the woods.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm scraping and trying all i can to rip
<v Speaker 2>the side of this blind open. I didn't even think
<v Speaker 2>to just go through the door, but I'm trying to
<v Speaker 2>get through the side of this blind. And finally I
<v Speaker 2>just fatigued and just gave up, just laid there with
<v Speaker 2>my patent and just tarra. I mean, I've been in
<v Speaker 2>some high stress situation and gun battles and stuff, but
<v Speaker 2>it's never scared me as much as these things have done.
<v Speaker 2>Wet my bridges again, I mean, I'm fit to be tied.
<v Speaker 2>And I finally get up, get my senses together, get
<v Speaker 2>on my full waiter, and I'm like, I'm never going
<v Speaker 2>down there the rest of my life. But eventually I
<v Speaker 2>did start going back down there. It's probably a year
<v Speaker 2>before I started going down there, and then since then,
<v Speaker 2>I've had several encounters, and I've had several encounters there.
<v Speaker 2>I ended up setting on the sixth forty down there
<v Speaker 2>to where the timber hadn't been cut since the thirties.
<v Speaker 2>So you've got you know, pine trees, you've got hardwood trees,
<v Speaker 2>you've got cypress trees and stuff that are like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>fifty foot tall, a lot of bottom land, and people
<v Speaker 2>that hunted down there, but they've never stayed hunting down there.
<v Speaker 2>And so I take this ground line from the beaver pond,
<v Speaker 2>and then I move it down into the six forty,
<v Speaker 2>which is not too far where I hunt at now,
<v Speaker 2>and I set this ground line up and get it
<v Speaker 2>all set up, get a couple of corn feeders, and
<v Speaker 2>then there's a tree that that that grew up and
<v Speaker 2>it's got this huge limb, probably about the size of
<v Speaker 2>a basketball that it just comes out the side of
<v Speaker 2>it and then it turns around and goes straight up.
<v Speaker 2>And so what I started doing was is I started
<v Speaker 2>putting apples up there, and that's what I started at first,
<v Speaker 2>and then I ended up putting like nine game cameras
<v Speaker 2>on this on this little gifting spot and put some
<v Speaker 2>on videos, some of them to take pictures. So I'm
<v Speaker 2>very convinced they can see infra red now because and
<v Speaker 2>what I couldn't understand was I would take pictures the
<v Speaker 2>squirrels pictures of coon, pictures of deer. Now this this
<v Speaker 2>log is a little bit high, so it's above the
<v Speaker 2>deer's heads. And I would put like bananas, peanut butter,
<v Speaker 2>crackers in apples up there, and I've got pictures of
<v Speaker 2>it being loaded, and I've got pictures of it as
<v Speaker 2>it slimmed down. I could catch everything on that, but
<v Speaker 2>what was taking the stuff on there? Or I would
<v Speaker 2>go I'd set my game camera up, brand new batteries
<v Speaker 2>and go down there the next day. In my back
<v Speaker 2>they're all dead. The nine game cameras sitting up there,
<v Speaker 2>take pictures of birds, squirrels, all that kind of stuff,
<v Speaker 2>but never taking a picture of what was taking now.
<v Speaker 2>And the fascinating part was is it started leaving stuff
<v Speaker 2>on that, on that big limb. I would leave some
<v Speaker 2>apples and it would leave an arrowhead, or it would
<v Speaker 2>lead it. I've got a marble that was there. I've
<v Speaker 2>got a piece of it looks like green light, green
<v Speaker 2>top glass stuff that was set up there. I think
<v Speaker 2>I've got probably seven or eight arrow heads that were
<v Speaker 2>left up there. So I found that very fascinating. And
<v Speaker 2>I remember one time I went down in there, and
<v Speaker 2>when I first set the ground bline up there. I
<v Speaker 2>noticed that probably twelve fifteen foot in a tree up
<v Speaker 2>above my ground bline, there was a limb that was busted,
<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't busted completely off, but it was broken,
<v Speaker 2>just hanging on the tree. I've got pictures of that,
<v Speaker 2>and I had one. I got off my four eater
<v Speaker 2>and I walked in and I had that sense again
<v Speaker 2>that I was overwhelming feeling that there's something around me.
<v Speaker 2>I'm being watched. Whatever you're on call it. And I
<v Speaker 2>went ahead and went into my ground line and kind
<v Speaker 2>of set there, and there's a big blowed down tree
<v Speaker 2>that's probably about thirty yards from behind my stand, and
<v Speaker 2>of course it's dark out there, and I kind of
<v Speaker 2>opened the backside of my deal down a little bit
<v Speaker 2>and was looking, and I could see a set of
<v Speaker 2>eyes in between the tree that had been fell over.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I can figure is it was laying
<v Speaker 2>down with them trees, looking through the cracks of those
<v Speaker 2>trees at me. And I'm like, okay, okay, sun's coming
<v Speaker 2>up here in a few minutes, I'm gonna get a
<v Speaker 2>shot at you. And by the time the sun come up,
<v Speaker 2>probably twenty thirty minutes, it was light enough to sea
<v Speaker 2>out there that sucker was gone. And then it was
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks after that is when I've got a
<v Speaker 2>picture of this too. There was a yellow plastic jar
<v Speaker 2>with a lid on it. It had a little bit
<v Speaker 2>of dirt in it. And I'm sitting here in my
<v Speaker 2>ground blind and this thing comes flying through the air,
<v Speaker 2>hits my ground blind and bounces off and it's laying there,
<v Speaker 2>probably five foot from my grip, and I'm thinking, what
<v Speaker 2>the heck, you know? So I pull out my phone
<v Speaker 2>and I'm taking pictures of this and I'm thinking, okay, now,
<v Speaker 2>if one of these rascals through that. Of course, it
<v Speaker 2>was a stormy day that day. I said, one of
<v Speaker 2>these rascals through that, maybe I can get some DNA
<v Speaker 2>off of it. I did a bigfoot conference down in Falk, Arkansas,
<v Speaker 2>at one of those Bigfoot crunches, and there was a
<v Speaker 2>lady there that talked about how to collect DNA off
<v Speaker 2>these rascals and whatnot and how to She had bags there,
<v Speaker 2>and I bought one of these DNA bags that had
<v Speaker 2>the gloves and everything like that and you're try not
<v Speaker 2>to and I'm like, I've got that back in camp.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get on my forwhitter and I'm gonna head
<v Speaker 2>out of here, grab that DNA bag and come back.
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I did. I stopped, made me a
<v Speaker 2>sandwich at the RB ate it, and then I went
<v Speaker 2>back down there. By the time I got down there
<v Speaker 2>was pouring down right, uh, and I'm thinking, oh man,
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna wash away all the DNA. But when I
<v Speaker 2>got back down there, the jar was gone. It wasn't
<v Speaker 2>where it was. And then on that particular stand there
<v Speaker 2>was another tree break that my wife at the time
<v Speaker 2>found and she pointed it out, and I've got a
<v Speaker 2>picture of me pointing up. And the thing about it
<v Speaker 2>was the tree. You know, if you know, the first
<v Speaker 2>thing I do is when I see a tree bake,
<v Speaker 2>I look up. You know, what's what's happened to the
<v Speaker 2>trees around it? Can this? Can this? You know? There
<v Speaker 2>was this just the wind. I try to, you know,
<v Speaker 2>do the pros and cons and elimond you know, because
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty skeptical, and I try to, you know, widdle
<v Speaker 2>it down to where there's no explanation in my mind anyways,
<v Speaker 2>But that tree was broke off, probably ten twelve foot
<v Speaker 2>up in the air. It was probably about as big
<v Speaker 2>as my fist. But the top of the tree was
<v Speaker 2>nowhere to be found. Now, if the wind blew that,
<v Speaker 2>it must have sucked it on out of there. But
<v Speaker 2>this tree, you know, you got trees fifty foot above
<v Speaker 2>this tree. You know, there was no plausible explanation of
<v Speaker 2>number one, how this tree broke and to how where
<v Speaker 2>did the top go? Because it usually windbird's tree it's
<v Speaker 2>laying right there beside it. But the top of the
<v Speaker 2>tree was completely gone. And there was a lot of
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I saw on the six forty. I remember
<v Speaker 2>going down to find actually where I put this stand out.
<v Speaker 2>Now this was early in the year before deer season.
<v Speaker 2>Then I was in there reconning all this area, and
<v Speaker 2>I kept six forty has thickets on both sides that
<v Speaker 2>have been cut, been cut and growed up. And so
<v Speaker 2>I'm going down to six forty on my four water
<v Speaker 2>and I start seeing the shadows out of my prefial vision,
<v Speaker 2>you know, of movement on both sides of that foll heater,
<v Speaker 2>and it followed me all the way down to where
<v Speaker 2>I put this stand. But if you'd look, it would
<v Speaker 2>be like you know, you turned around to look, you
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see anything there, but I know that there was
<v Speaker 2>something standing there, whether it's stepped into thicket or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>You know, these animals are extraordinary. But I found a stick,
<v Speaker 2>probably bigger rounds of my arm, my arm, I would
<v Speaker 2>like to say it was pretty good sized, but a
<v Speaker 2>stick that was shoved down into the ground, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And of course the first thing I do is I
<v Speaker 2>look up, you know, is there a broken stick or
<v Speaker 2>a broken limb up above my head? And I didn't
<v Speaker 2>find one, And I kept going and I found another one,
<v Speaker 2>probably thirty yards the same thing. It was shoved in
<v Speaker 2>the ground, and I kept going. I found it. I
<v Speaker 2>took pictures of it, and there was another stick that
<v Speaker 2>was shoved in the ground. But what I found real
<v Speaker 2>interesting is if I got into a certain angle, these
<v Speaker 2>sticks lined up perfectly. And so I found a place
<v Speaker 2>where I wanted to put my deerstand is where I
<v Speaker 2>found the first one, and I ended up coming out.
<v Speaker 2>But I found all three of these, took pictures of
<v Speaker 2>it and how they lined up and everything. And I
<v Speaker 2>kept going, and I come into an area where you know,
<v Speaker 2>have you ever seen the arcs that some of these
<v Speaker 2>creatures possibly make. Well, there's a huge tree that's just
<v Speaker 2>arc that caught my attention. And so I went in
<v Speaker 2>there and it was like it was like there was
<v Speaker 2>arcs everywhere, and there was tree brakes and stuff. And
<v Speaker 2>I've got that feeling that I was being watched. And
<v Speaker 2>when I when I have an encounter, I log all
<v Speaker 2>this stuff on my iPhone. You know what the braver
<v Speaker 2>mag pressure was, how was it cloudy that day? And
<v Speaker 2>and I start, you know, putting it all, logging it
<v Speaker 2>all over my iPhone in my nose, and I remember
<v Speaker 2>pulling out that day and and I've got, uh, what
<v Speaker 2>is that onyx ox onyx app that tells you boundary lines?
<v Speaker 2>And it's a it's a hunt map that I use,
<v Speaker 2>but I marked my encounters and take pictures and log
<v Speaker 2>it into that as well. And it's got a cool
<v Speaker 2>little Sasquatch icon in there. So I marked all the
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch locations that I've seen in just seeing tracks or
<v Speaker 2>or whatnot, and uh, tree brakes and whatnot. I take
<v Speaker 2>pictures of me put them in there. So it's a
<v Speaker 2>good way for me to keep up with my counters
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And when I uh pulled up my onyx
<v Speaker 2>act and was going to mark that spot, and then
<v Speaker 2>I pulled up my compass. Now that was the freaky thing.
<v Speaker 2>When I was standing there in the middle of this
<v Speaker 2>and I've got a video of this I can send
<v Speaker 2>to you if you want. But I'm standing there in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of that area and my compass is going
<v Speaker 2>around in circles where this location was. There was no
<v Speaker 2>I mean it. You know, usually you pull it out
<v Speaker 2>north is this way, South is this way, East is
<v Speaker 2>this way, west is this way. It wasn't like that.
<v Speaker 2>That compass started going around, not real fast, but it
<v Speaker 2>never kept a magnetic center, which I found real fascinating.
<v Speaker 2>But I marked it on my marked it on my
<v Speaker 2>deal in my on ex app and uh and then
<v Speaker 2>video to want to hand me backed out of there.
<v Speaker 2>Then there was one other time that my wife, me
<v Speaker 2>and my older brother were down there fishing, and I've
<v Speaker 2>got photographs of this, and it was late and she's like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired, I'm going back to camp. So she took
<v Speaker 2>off on my full waiter. Me and my brother still
<v Speaker 2>down there on the river fishing. She took off on
<v Speaker 2>a four leader and all of a sudden she calls
<v Speaker 2>me in a panic, and she says I've just seen something.
<v Speaker 2>There's tracks on this road. I'm going to camp. I
<v Speaker 2>never coming back down here again. And it really boogered
<v Speaker 2>her up. So she hauls bu camp and she was frantic.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, okay. I told my brother, I said,
<v Speaker 2>let's get our stuff up. You know, Tracy saw some
<v Speaker 2>of it's down there on the road. Me and my
<v Speaker 2>brother both witnessed this, and I didn't. I wish I
<v Speaker 2>would have took the time and went back to camp,
<v Speaker 2>got my plaster of Paris. Of course, everything now I
<v Speaker 2>do with dental cast because you can get more detail
<v Speaker 2>out of it. But I put some rocks around the
<v Speaker 2>best track. But I do have photographs and video of this.
<v Speaker 2>But the tracks were about fourteen inches long, and from
<v Speaker 2>the tip of the toe to the heel of the
<v Speaker 2>next next track was sixty four inches, so it had
<v Speaker 2>a sixty four inch and there was probably five or
<v Speaker 2>six tracks down there. And I'm thinking it's late. We're
<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of the Boonies. There's nobody going
<v Speaker 2>to be coming down through here. And so I said,
<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to their first light and cast these tracks,
<v Speaker 2>and went down there, and somebody had run all the
<v Speaker 2>way through these tracks, but I did get pictures of
<v Speaker 2>it and stuff. So there's been lots of encounters down there.
<v Speaker 2>And me and two of my buddies justin that called
<v Speaker 2>you and kind of told you about some of my
<v Speaker 2>encounters and put me in touch with you. We all
<v Speaker 2>went out this last weekend and we were in I'll
<v Speaker 2>tell you exactly where we were. We were at right
<v Speaker 2>Patman Lake in Atlanta, Texas. And I met a guy
<v Speaker 2>down there just introduced me to by the name of Steamboat,
<v Speaker 2>and he's had several encounters and has sent me video
<v Speaker 2>of some encounters down there. Uh, and I'm definitely planning
<v Speaker 2>a trip back down there, but he sent me this
<v Speaker 2>one video this guy that, And we went to the
<v Speaker 2>guys passed by the guy's house, but his vehicle wasn't there,
<v Speaker 2>so we kept going and uh, but it had a
<v Speaker 2>big foot. He's got it on his Uh he's got
<v Speaker 2>cameras in his backyard underneath the arches of his house.
<v Speaker 2>And he said he's got the video and I send
<v Speaker 2>you this. I mean, it's real fascinating because it's already
<v Speaker 2>out there on the internet. But you can see the
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot walk across opened the broke the cage open. He
<v Speaker 2>had I think he had three maybe three coons pet
<v Speaker 2>coons in there, pulled one pet coon out and turned
<v Speaker 2>around and walked back across the frame. That was real cool,
<v Speaker 2>real cool. So I definitely want to go back there
<v Speaker 2>and kind of poke around back in there, and the
<v Speaker 2>guy said we could. So we're playing another trip. But
<v Speaker 2>we spent three days, as we spent Friday, Saturday, and
<v Speaker 2>Sunday out there, and we had probably about nine o'clock
<v Speaker 2>Friday night, we had one scream and it was it
<v Speaker 2>was across the lake from us, and this scream was
<v Speaker 2>so loud, it didn't verberate like it was when I
<v Speaker 2>was a kid, but I mean, and the length was
<v Speaker 2>what really fascinated me was the length of the scream.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm, you know, fumbling through my gear trying to
<v Speaker 2>get my phone out, and then I hit record and
<v Speaker 2>at the tail end, or when it got almost to
<v Speaker 2>the tail end of the screen, every clout for miles
<v Speaker 2>around just started yelping and stuff, and I got all
<v Speaker 2>the coluts yelping, but I didn't catch any of the scream.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you have a you never you never, you
<v Speaker 2>don't ever think about the camera. You don't think about
<v Speaker 2>recording when you're in the mix of it, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm trying to get better prepared now. But I
<v Speaker 2>did catch the tail in of them screens. And we
<v Speaker 2>did found another tree that was twisted like that tree
<v Speaker 2>that I found down in the bottoms here in Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>And I found another tree like that. I got pictures
<v Speaker 2>of that, fascinating uh. And then we had some tree
<v Speaker 2>breaks around camp at night. We had things sticks thrown
<v Speaker 2>into camp at us, a few rocks, a few pine combs,
<v Speaker 2>so we had a lot of activity, but no visuals,
<v Speaker 2>which you know, it always with me and these these gritters,
<v Speaker 2>it always always happens with visuals at first. Uh. And
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you about one morning, counter and we'll
<v Speaker 2>kind of wind this up. I used to go out
<v Speaker 2>there on the river and I fish at night, and
<v Speaker 2>I would play Southern rock and roll, uh, And I
<v Speaker 2>put it on a speaker above my side by side,
<v Speaker 2>and me and my dog, Christians she's passed now, but
<v Speaker 2>we would go down there and we'd set out there
<v Speaker 2>and fish all night and you'd catch you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good channel cat down there, some flatheads and whatnot.
<v Speaker 2>And we were down there one night and I could
<v Speaker 2>hear this whodow a long ways off, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I've heard whodol's all my life, but this, this whodow
<v Speaker 2>was there was a slight change in the burbage, this hootout,
<v Speaker 2>and you could tell that it was It sounded like
<v Speaker 2>a hoot out, but you could definitely tell it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>a hootout. And then all of a sudden, you know,
<v Speaker 2>there was another one, and then there was another one.
<v Speaker 2>Then there was another one, and I'm setting and in
<v Speaker 2>the setting of this you've got I'm down on the river,
<v Speaker 2>and the river goes down at nine, it comes back
<v Speaker 2>up early morning, and it goes back down when they
<v Speaker 2>let floodgates open. So I've got fifteen foot banks on
<v Speaker 2>both sides, and I'm down down there on a gravel bar,
<v Speaker 2>which I found an eighteen eighteen inch track down there
<v Speaker 2>that I got cast and got pictures of, and I
<v Speaker 2>didn't find it. My previous wife found it, and so
<v Speaker 2>I started going down there fishing after we'd found and
<v Speaker 2>cast that track, and it always seemed between midnight four
<v Speaker 2>o'clock it is when I found the most activity down there,
<v Speaker 2>and I use a it's not an infrared light it's
<v Speaker 2>just a red light that you used for hunting at night.
<v Speaker 2>And because I found when I take my spotlight when
<v Speaker 2>I'd had that feeling that something was around me, I
<v Speaker 2>would take my three bright light and you could see
<v Speaker 2>ey shine, but they close their eyes and never open
<v Speaker 2>it again. So I ended up finding this light at
<v Speaker 2>Walmart for night hunting that you put on your gun,
<v Speaker 2>and I took it, and it's pretty powerful. It was
<v Speaker 2>only any bus and I kept skimming across there and
<v Speaker 2>you can see eye shine, but it didn't of course,
<v Speaker 2>I never hit them in the face. I always stand
<v Speaker 2>low to locate them. And the hootouse that night kept
<v Speaker 2>getting louder and louder, and before I know it, I've
<v Speaker 2>got three sets of eyeshine on one bank on one
<v Speaker 2>side of me, and I've got two sets of eyeshine
<v Speaker 2>on the left hand side of the river. And by
<v Speaker 2>this time, my dog man from the tip of her tail,
<v Speaker 2>of her nose, every bit of her hair down the center.
<v Speaker 2>You know, she's on high alert. She's growling, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>we got five of them around us. I was talking
<v Speaker 2>to my talking to my dog, so that would happen,
<v Speaker 2>you know, two or three times, but this one time
<v Speaker 2>I want to get to That really freaked me out.
<v Speaker 2>I've heard of Bigfoot, you know, the mind speak and
<v Speaker 2>the infrasound and stuff like that. I'm not saying that
<v Speaker 2>this is what happened. Never had one speak to me. Now,
<v Speaker 2>I have spoke to them, but I've never had one
<v Speaker 2>mind speak to me or anything. But this was just unexplainable.
<v Speaker 2>I'm down there, I'm fishing, got my dog with me.
<v Speaker 2>We done caught a couple of fish, and it's probably
<v Speaker 2>two thirty two, two thirty three o'clock, between two and
<v Speaker 2>three o'clock, and we're down there fishing. And then it
<v Speaker 2>was just like I don't know what happened, but I
<v Speaker 2>found when I woke up, I was face down in
<v Speaker 2>the mud, kind of on my on my stomach. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>all I remember I was sitting in my chair and
<v Speaker 2>then I'm laid out right beside my chair. Don't know
<v Speaker 2>what happened. I remember getting up and I'm kind of
<v Speaker 2>looking around and uh. And the next thing I remember,
<v Speaker 2>I wake up in my rb back at Deer Camp
<v Speaker 2>and I'm covered in mud and I'm like what. And
<v Speaker 2>the last thing I remember is being setting in my
<v Speaker 2>chair fishing with my dog. Don't know what happened, but
<v Speaker 2>the only thing I can do is ascertain was evidently.
<v Speaker 2>I got up, I gathered all my stuff, put it
<v Speaker 2>in the side by side. Usually when I get home,
<v Speaker 2>I'll unload my side beside h put my fishing POWs up,
<v Speaker 2>you know, clean the fish and all this kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>The fish were in a plastic bag in my freezer
<v Speaker 2>on uh in my r and b I've got I'm
<v Speaker 2>covered in mud, got mud cake, dried mud cake to
<v Speaker 2>the side of my face. I've got mud all in
<v Speaker 2>my bed, and I'm thinking, what what the heck? And
<v Speaker 2>so the first thing I do is call out for
<v Speaker 2>a dog. She comes back there in the bedroom and
<v Speaker 2>I so I know she's safe. I get up and
<v Speaker 2>I go out to my side by side and all
<v Speaker 2>all my fishing gears packed up in my side by side,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm kind of like, what the heck is going?
<v Speaker 2>So I went ahead and made me some coffee and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well, what happened to the fish? So
<v Speaker 2>I opened up the my eyes box and then opened
<v Speaker 2>up the freezer, and my fissure in a plastic bag
<v Speaker 2>up in the freezer frozen, and I I couldn't tell
<v Speaker 2>you how I got home. I remember sitting in the chair,
<v Speaker 2>don't remember getting up any of my gear, don't remember
<v Speaker 2>putting my dog in the side to side, don't remember
<v Speaker 2>driving back to the deer camp, getting in my RV
<v Speaker 2>and going to bed. I don't know what happened that night,
<v Speaker 2>you know, but the first thing I did was got
<v Speaker 2>some coffee in me the next morning, put me a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of breakfast, and then I headed back down
<v Speaker 2>there to see if I could find any tracks or
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. Now, this was in June and July
<v Speaker 2>back and there. You know, it's pretty swampy and pretty
<v Speaker 2>wet down there. But by this time, right before deer season,
<v Speaker 2>you know that that luod and stuff just becomes like
<v Speaker 2>bricks down there. I fat of course, the water come
<v Speaker 2>up where my camp was, or where I was setting
<v Speaker 2>on my RV or im RV the side the side
<v Speaker 2>down on the river. And you couldn't tell where I
<v Speaker 2>drove in there. Now you could, once you got up
<v Speaker 2>olding them on top of the ground the grab bar,
<v Speaker 2>you could tell I was down in there. You could
<v Speaker 2>tell I drove out, But where I was setting that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the water come up there wasn't. I couldn't
<v Speaker 2>find any tracks. Went up on the bank on one
<v Speaker 2>side of the river, looked all back in there, and
<v Speaker 2>I remember that night that uh before all before I
<v Speaker 2>blacked out, I guess there was I noticed that there
<v Speaker 2>was a rock that hit in the water, probably two
<v Speaker 2>feet from it. And that's when Christian first, uh got
<v Speaker 2>one on high alert and I heard something hit the
<v Speaker 2>word and I just kind of looked over and just
<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, went back to fishing and whatnot.
<v Speaker 2>And then another one hit almost in the same spot,
<v Speaker 2>and Christian has got a low growl, and uh so
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there watching that spot, and then another rock
<v Speaker 2>drops almost in the same spot, and I'm thinking, like,
<v Speaker 2>my cousins up there messing with me or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>This is before it ever got dark, but it was
<v Speaker 2>getting toward where the sun was fixing to go down,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, hey, who's up there? And whatever was
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see because it was back behind the bank.
<v Speaker 2>But whatever was up there grabbed a tree it was
<v Speaker 2>about ten inches around and shook it like a rag dog.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the whole top of that tree was bouncing
<v Speaker 2>side to side. There was leeves coming off of it.
<v Speaker 2>It never made a noise, It just shook the tree.
<v Speaker 2>And then I remember my dog Christians, she just went off.
<v Speaker 2>I mean she just started barking and showing her teeth
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And then the course later of that night,
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened to me. So that's probably on this setting,
<v Speaker 2>that's probably. I mean, there's a lot more I could
<v Speaker 2>tell you to go into more detail and what not,
<v Speaker 2>so I'll probably.
<v Speaker 1>Wrap it up with that, Okay, Dave. I appreciate you
<v Speaker 1>for sharing your encounters and experiences with me. The creature
<v Speaker 1>that you saw standing in the water, is this in
<v Speaker 1>a creek or a river?
<v Speaker 2>It was where if there's a spring thread creek that
<v Speaker 2>comes in and kind of come cut all the way
<v Speaker 2>across our property and then where you know how stream
<v Speaker 2>runs into a bigger bank of water, there's kind of
<v Speaker 2>the water kind of backs up right there, uh, And
<v Speaker 2>that's where he was standing almost we're probably ten twelve
<v Speaker 2>feet before you actually got to the river, and that's
<v Speaker 2>usually where I caught all those all those big hand
<v Speaker 2>sized perch at was right in that area there. You
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to get into the river. All you had
<v Speaker 2>to do is just get right there. It didn't matter
<v Speaker 2>if you threw a h a cricket or a worm
<v Speaker 2>or anything. Man, then them them perch would by right
<v Speaker 2>there in that one spot, and that's where he was.
<v Speaker 2>Whether he's eating perch or not, I don't have some
<v Speaker 2>lot of ideal, but it was right before it got
<v Speaker 2>into the water ran into the river. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting, and a lot of reports that I
<v Speaker 1>get people say that they encounter these creatures on the
<v Speaker 1>water or pretty close to a waterway. It almost makes
<v Speaker 1>me feel like the creature was fishing, especially since you
<v Speaker 1>said that's a really good area to fish up.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got a lot of perch in there, so
<v Speaker 2>that's I mean, probably, you know. But all I know
<v Speaker 2>is he was standing in knee deep water.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like you were in shocks since you
<v Speaker 1>couldn't move. You said that it felt like your feet
<v Speaker 1>were like cemented to the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I wanted my mind was my mind was screaming
<v Speaker 2>at me to run, you know, but I couldn't move.
<v Speaker 2>I mean there, I couldn't move a muscle. I was
<v Speaker 2>just I had my twenty two in my hand, I
<v Speaker 2>had my tackle box and my fishing pole on the
<v Speaker 2>other hand, and I was just froze there and would
<v Speaker 2>until when he slapped the water and that water hit
<v Speaker 2>me in the face. Is when you know how you
<v Speaker 2>smack the water and throw away at somebody or you know,
<v Speaker 2>when you're out swimming and stuff. That's what it was like.
<v Speaker 2>But it kind of like he threw a bucket of
<v Speaker 2>water on me with his hands. I noticed his hands
<v Speaker 2>were were and this and wasn't. It wasn't big giant
<v Speaker 2>in bulky. It was tall and lanky, but I remember
<v Speaker 2>his arms being very long because he was in knee
<v Speaker 2>deep water, and when he swung that left arm across there,
<v Speaker 2>he scooped water up, so you know, I would say
<v Speaker 2>his hand was you know, went down maybe six eight
<v Speaker 2>ten inches, hung down below his knee because he scooped
<v Speaker 2>rapping beside his knee and just grabbed. It felt like
<v Speaker 2>a whole bucket of water hit me. And when that
<v Speaker 2>water hit me, it was just kind of like that
<v Speaker 2>just put me, I guess back to my senses, and
<v Speaker 2>that's when I dropped my tackle box and my fishing pot.
<v Speaker 2>Never let go of my twenty two. Didn't even think
<v Speaker 2>about my twenty two being in my hand. Buddy. I'll
<v Speaker 2>tell you what I left the trail out of there
<v Speaker 2>a little dust cloud. All I wanted was as far
<v Speaker 2>away from that rascal as I could get.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the creature splashed water on you?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh wow?
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think he did that?
<v Speaker 2>Good question? I mean I never said and thought about
<v Speaker 2>why he splashed water on me. But but all I
<v Speaker 2>knew was when that water hit me, it kind of
<v Speaker 2>brought me back to myself. And because he screamed first,
<v Speaker 2>and that just like rattled everything, even my organs, you know,
<v Speaker 2>everything kind of vibrated. It was so intense and so loud.
<v Speaker 2>Didn't hurt my ears. I mean, it was extremely loud,
<v Speaker 2>it didn't hurt my ears. But when he when he screaming,
<v Speaker 2>it was long. But when that water hit me, but
<v Speaker 2>all he saw was my backside. Whatever happened to him
<v Speaker 2>after that, I never saw anything down in there. I
<v Speaker 2>would hear vocalizations every once in a while, but when
<v Speaker 2>I heard vocalizations, but I was out of there. I
<v Speaker 2>ain't staying down there no more. And like I said,
<v Speaker 2>it took me till I was eighteen years old to
<v Speaker 2>get over being scared of the dark. And I remember
<v Speaker 2>getting ridiculed so bad about that. You know, they would,
<v Speaker 2>you know, tease me about being afraid of the dark,
<v Speaker 2>and they'd grab me up and throw me out in
<v Speaker 2>the dark, and I'd do everything I could to call
<v Speaker 2>my way back into the house. You know, boys and
<v Speaker 2>cousins being knute that I was scared of the dark.
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't actually that I was scared of the dark.
<v Speaker 2>I knew what was in the dark now. Yeah, absolutely
<v Speaker 2>scared of me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's terrifying when you have these encounters all of
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, whenever it gets dark, it terrifies you because
<v Speaker 1>you know these creatures are actually out there, and before
<v Speaker 1>you ever have an experience or an encounter, you're already
<v Speaker 1>scared of the dark, especially when you're a little kid
<v Speaker 1>like you just have this uneasy feeling. So when you
<v Speaker 1>lay eyes on one of these creatures, it really changes
<v Speaker 1>nighttime for you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's even you know, it affected me so bad
<v Speaker 2>that when I started my company. I have a company
<v Speaker 2>called Monster Tent and it's here in Malvern, and I
<v Speaker 2>started it out west, out in New Mexico back in
<v Speaker 2>the spring of eighty nine that I put I called
<v Speaker 2>it Monster Tent because of my encounter with that first
<v Speaker 2>monster that I saw and I put the logo of
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like the fout Monster logo as my
<v Speaker 2>logo in my business, but it's a little bit different.
<v Speaker 2>So it affected me all of my life that first encounter,
<v Speaker 2>and when I started having the encounters here, man, it
<v Speaker 2>was like everything just come that first encounter here, it
<v Speaker 2>was like everything just kind of come back and flooded
<v Speaker 2>in and all these emotions, and you know, you you
<v Speaker 2>think you deal with past trauma until something triggers that
<v Speaker 2>trauma and then everything comes back to you like it's
<v Speaker 2>like it just happened yesterday.
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. It seems like you can heal
<v Speaker 1>yourself and then all it does. It just takes like
<v Speaker 1>one thing to trigger everything and it all comes back
<v Speaker 1>and it's much worse than before. So it's hard to
<v Speaker 1>heal from past wounds for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, definitely.
<v Speaker 1>The creature you said it was about eight to ten
<v Speaker 1>feet tall. It looked like it had dreadlocks or it
<v Speaker 1>was just more of like a mess. I interviewed a
<v Speaker 1>lady from Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The lady from Arkansas said she was in her
<v Speaker 1>pool and she looked up and saw this creature and
<v Speaker 1>she described it the same way you did, except this creature.
<v Speaker 1>Its hair was like in its face, like you couldn't
<v Speaker 1>see its face, and yeah, I couldn't.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I couldn't see the nose. I couldn't see the eyes,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I could see the mouth. The mouth looked
<v Speaker 2>like h and what you know. Some some some of
<v Speaker 2>these creatures I've seen looked kind of apish, but some
<v Speaker 2>of them I've seen have looked so human, like just
<v Speaker 2>Harry and this one. I remember his mouth was extremely large,
<v Speaker 2>but he had like I wouldn't see he had buck teeth.
<v Speaker 2>It was more like it's more like horse teeth, big
<v Speaker 2>blocky teeth. When he screamed, opened his mouth and he screamed,
<v Speaker 2>I could see these big black teeth and they were
<v Speaker 2>like he didn't have no canines or anything, and they
<v Speaker 2>were like yellow and dark spots and stuff. I could
<v Speaker 2>see his mouth from there down, but then I never
<v Speaker 2>saw his eyes, never saw his nose because of that
<v Speaker 2>hair hung down in his face. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That's creepy. And how close were you to this creature?
<v Speaker 2>Probably no more than fifteen feet, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty close. It sounds like he was distracted and
<v Speaker 1>didn't know you were in the area until you both
<v Speaker 1>laid eyes on each other, and it almost seems like
<v Speaker 1>they will target certain people. You've heard the term like
<v Speaker 1>being marked or tagged by them, and for some reason
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter where you go. And obviously it doesn't happen
<v Speaker 1>every time, but you'll have experiences every now and then,
<v Speaker 1>and then other people that are hunting in the area
<v Speaker 1>don't experience anything. It's strange, right right.
<v Speaker 2>I really believe that either they tag mark, you know.
<v Speaker 2>I know animals can see auras, you know, maybe it's
<v Speaker 2>an aura. I know humans have auras and different humans
<v Speaker 2>have different ors if it's an aura they pick up
<v Speaker 2>on or if they tag or mark or whatever. But
<v Speaker 2>it just seems like throughout my life, no matter where
<v Speaker 2>I went to, you know, I would end up hearing vocalizations,
<v Speaker 2>catching a glimpse of one or something like that, and
<v Speaker 2>it was like I just saw Bigfoot and they're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>you're crazy. You know a lot of ridicule goes with this. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>That's why I've you know, you're the first person I've
<v Speaker 2>shared publicly about my encounters, because you know, people look
<v Speaker 2>at you like you got three heads, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like look, I tell them, I said, look, this
<v Speaker 2>creature does exist. I know for a fact, because I've
<v Speaker 2>laid my eyes on it. I know they're genuine, whether
<v Speaker 2>they're a creature or you know, some messed up stuff
<v Speaker 2>to following angels, you know, when they started doing all
<v Speaker 2>their DNA experiments and stuff like that and all that
<v Speaker 2>stuffs true, it's not conspiracy stuff, whether they stem from that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, or whatever. I know they're real one hundred percent.
<v Speaker 2>And I tell people what I've spent my life, my
<v Speaker 2>whole life, and it was and I ain't never saw
<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. I said, I promise you might not
<v Speaker 2>ever see them, but they seen you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Because.
<v Speaker 2>There's there's a there's a lot of encounters here in Arkansas,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of encounters.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a hot spot in North America. Whenever this
<v Speaker 1>creature or when this creature screamed at you, what did
<v Speaker 1>it sound like?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? It was it was very very loud. It started
<v Speaker 2>out kind of as like maybe a mix and a
<v Speaker 2>growl and a scream to a real hot pitch, long
<v Speaker 2>drawled out and you know, and when it vibrated in
<v Speaker 2>my body, you know, I mean my body just cut
<v Speaker 2>loose and not just you know, embarrassed to say, but
<v Speaker 2>I wet my bridges, you know, twelve year old kid.
<v Speaker 2>It's it literally scared to piss out of me, or
<v Speaker 2>the pee out of me, nice way of saying it.
<v Speaker 2>But it was long, it was drawled out, and it
<v Speaker 2>erberated my whole inside my not just the outside, but
<v Speaker 2>the inside. I remember my inside My body was vibrating
<v Speaker 2>because of the pitch. And I guess the length and
<v Speaker 2>the power that this thing had, you know. Uh. And
<v Speaker 2>I've had other ones scream at me, but the screams
<v Speaker 2>have been different. I've heard this type of vocalizations that
<v Speaker 2>that one day when I was down. Uh, when I
<v Speaker 2>first heard those vocalizations, it was making all different kind
<v Speaker 2>of noise, you know. There at one time it sounded
<v Speaker 2>like Samurai Williams out there talking, you know. It was
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like gibberish, kind of sounded like
<v Speaker 2>Japanese to me, you know. Uh. But that was long
<v Speaker 2>and drawed out, and and it, you know, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>it really scared the p out of me. Literally.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand. And I've interviewed people in the past
<v Speaker 1>that have peed themselves, and yeah, it does happen. I
<v Speaker 1>even heard people say that, you know, sasquatches around because
<v Speaker 1>your dog will cower down and he'll peel all over himself.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's terrifying. And yeah, a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>seem to think that these creatures are just cute and
<v Speaker 1>fuzzy and to leave them alone. But they don't understand
<v Speaker 1>like these things will target certain people. They're very territorial,
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's no joke. I mean, we don't go
<v Speaker 1>out there trying to you know, like find a sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>and put it in a cage, like a lot of
<v Speaker 1>times you just run into one.
<v Speaker 2>Well, when I go down the woods now, I go heavy,
<v Speaker 2>even when I you know, I usually a hunt with
<v Speaker 2>a hunting rifle and my pistol, but I now carry
<v Speaker 2>a four fifty eight so con that I built on
<v Speaker 2>my chest and forty on my hip, and then I
<v Speaker 2>carry another pistol as a backup. Of course my hunting knife.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a bowie knife, you know. But
<v Speaker 2>there's been some aggression down there. Have you ever you
<v Speaker 2>ever seen a gorilla bluff charge? Yeah, the Zoo film.
<v Speaker 2>You know, how they'll come up to you like on
<v Speaker 2>all fours, gallop at you, you know, making noise, eight
<v Speaker 2>noises and stuff. I had the one that I called
<v Speaker 2>Big Eddy that I casted the eighteen inch print probably
<v Speaker 2>eight months ago. Bluff charged me like that come out
<v Speaker 2>of a thicket, and he probably got within twenty five
<v Speaker 2>yards of me. And he was, you know when he
<v Speaker 2>busted out of that thicket, it was coming through that thicket.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, limbs were breaking and stuff like that. And
<v Speaker 2>he was kind of on the all fours, kind of
<v Speaker 2>like an ape and screaming and hollering. Make it all
<v Speaker 2>kind of racket. And I had a AD two point
<v Speaker 2>sixty two but thirty nine that I had on my
<v Speaker 2>chest and I was like, there's no way this could
<v Speaker 2>have put a dent in that thing. You know. I
<v Speaker 2>had a high capacity magazine in there, had my hand
<v Speaker 2>on my pistol, didn't raise my rifle, but I had
<v Speaker 2>my hand on on the block on my side with
<v Speaker 2>the laser on it, and uh, you know, the only
<v Speaker 2>thing and that was the only time there's ever been
<v Speaker 2>aggression out of the ones that I've encountered down there
<v Speaker 2>were a hunt ad and that I was talking to
<v Speaker 2>another researcher and he was telling me because I told him,
<v Speaker 2>I said, I found that rather odd, but it did
<v Speaker 2>stare me and I did wet my bridges again as
<v Speaker 2>a grona dog. So it's happened three times. What my bridges,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's fear. I mean, it's fear. And you
<v Speaker 2>know that's when I got back here, put online, going
<v Speaker 2>online in and built that four fifty a so coon
<v Speaker 2>and I carry five hundred grained elephant charges in that thing.
<v Speaker 2>They're like almost two hundred dollars for twenty rounds of
<v Speaker 2>these things. But I carry two magazines, you know, with
<v Speaker 2>those special shells, and I would never shoot one unless
<v Speaker 2>I would absolutely have to, And it would break my
<v Speaker 2>heart if I ever had to take one down, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because here's the deal. You know, when you observe these things,
<v Speaker 2>they are so human like facial features, mannerisms, you know,
<v Speaker 2>sometimes the way they walk is so human like. You
<v Speaker 2>know that you really when you first see that, is
<v Speaker 2>that is that you know a man in a Gillie
<v Speaker 2>suit because it rest sters as a human. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>you know, your mind tries to decipher what you're looking
<v Speaker 2>at because what you're looking at your brain can't comprehend,
<v Speaker 2>you know. So that was the only bat encounter I
<v Speaker 2>ever had with any aggression. Every other encounter I've had
<v Speaker 2>very docile, very peaceful. You know, they see me. I
<v Speaker 2>see them. I know they're there. You know, I'll talk
<v Speaker 2>to them. You know, Hey, how you doing. I'm just
<v Speaker 2>down here, I'm hunting. We're just going to share the woods. Definitely,
<v Speaker 2>when I go down on the six forty, I always
<v Speaker 2>announce myself. You know. The last encounter I had was
<v Speaker 2>last earlier this year when I was out there squirrel hunting,
<v Speaker 2>and that was what was last year, back in September October.
<v Speaker 2>I was down there squirrel hunting and I heard one
<v Speaker 2>whistle and I kind of just stopped by this tree
<v Speaker 2>and I just got real steel and I never saw it,
<v Speaker 2>but probably six minutes seven minutes after that, I heard
<v Speaker 2>another one whistle behind me, and I was like, well,
<v Speaker 2>it's time to get out, squirrel was I was almost
<v Speaker 2>at my limit anyway, so I felt a little uneasy,
<v Speaker 2>so I went ahead, and how old are to day?
<v Speaker 2>On the squirrels? I'd already got. But you hear stuff
<v Speaker 2>like that down there all the time. In one way,
<v Speaker 2>it's real cool and real fascinating and it gets that
<v Speaker 2>drinaling going and stuff. But in another another, on the
<v Speaker 2>flip side of that coin, you know, this is an
<v Speaker 2>eight text predator that from what I've researched, if you're
<v Speaker 2>within one hundred yards of a sasquatch, you're in their
<v Speaker 2>killing zone, you know. And this thing Ken and Will,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and here's the way I look at it.
<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of like humans. You know, there's some
<v Speaker 2>good humans and there's some bad humans. And I feel
<v Speaker 2>the same way with these creatures is there's some good ones,
<v Speaker 2>but there's some bad ones too. I mean, there's too many,
<v Speaker 2>too many people's I'm missing too many attacks, bad encounters
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Unfortunately, I've never had a bad
<v Speaker 2>encounter but that one where you bluff charged me. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>But they've always have been pretty pretty peaceful. You know,
<v Speaker 2>you see them, they just walk off, you know. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I think I ever sat down at the
<v Speaker 2>table with them, but who knows.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely there's good ones and bad ones. And the way
<v Speaker 1>I look at it is, you know, there's good people
<v Speaker 1>out there and there's good bad people. Like you said,
<v Speaker 1>and also like you know, you hear a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people say like pit bulls are the sweetest dogs ever,
<v Speaker 1>They're so nice. Well, if you ever ran into a
<v Speaker 1>bad pit bull, it's it's pretty scary. And you know, like,
<v Speaker 1>imagine what a pit bull could do to a little kid. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they're sweet, they're good dogs if they're trained right, but
<v Speaker 1>depending on how they were raised, they could tear you apart.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you could lose your life, your face,
<v Speaker 1>and it's happened. You know, people have pit bulls and
<v Speaker 1>they think, oh, this is such a good dog, and
<v Speaker 1>one day things go wrong, and you know, it's the
<v Speaker 1>same way with these creatures. They could easily turn on you.
<v Speaker 1>And can you imagine what's something that could pull a
<v Speaker 1>full sized pine tree out of the ground just deroot
<v Speaker 1>it like a like a pencil. I mean, it could
<v Speaker 1>just tear you apart so easy. So the fact they
<v Speaker 1>let us walk away that that really says a lot.
<v Speaker 1>And they're really human, like you can tell there's deep
<v Speaker 1>intelligence going on within their mind.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the creature that you encountered in Arizona, that's
<v Speaker 1>that's terrifying because it screamed and it sounded like a
<v Speaker 1>lightning bolt just went through your body. You also heard
<v Speaker 1>whoops whenever you were turkey hunting. How big do you
<v Speaker 1>think this creature was? The silver one?
<v Speaker 2>The silver one and it was in New Mexico, New Mexican. Sorry,
<v Speaker 2>you know that that that was if I had estimate,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not gonna estimate, and I would have
<v Speaker 2>to say he was at least eight plus eight plus
<v Speaker 2>at least. I mean, that one was the typical just big, bulky,
<v Speaker 2>you know, huge, looked like a linebacker for the forty
<v Speaker 2>nine ers, you know, just huge and and that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And I was looking at it that when I was
<v Speaker 2>looking at the scope, you know, when it when it's
<v Speaker 2>foot hit the ground, you could see the muscles just
<v Speaker 2>ripple through his legs, you know, through his hair and uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, but he was he was a brick house.
<v Speaker 2>He was solid, just huge, massive thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's terrifying. And let's see what else. Do you
<v Speaker 1>feel like the game feeder brought these creatures in? Do
<v Speaker 1>you think that's what it was doing whenever you saw
<v Speaker 1>those eyes looking around the big pine tree.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was the game feeder. I've
<v Speaker 2>never found any tracks close to the game feed But
<v Speaker 2>here's my thinking on that that game feeder attracts other animals.
<v Speaker 2>And we've got an extremely large hog population and deer
<v Speaker 2>population down there as well. So there's an abundance food source,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I feel that, you know, the predator instincts,
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I can get around a food source,
<v Speaker 2>it's just like us, you know, we set up a
<v Speaker 2>game camera or a game feeder where predators setting up
<v Speaker 2>in that tree or in that blind, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>we're just waiting for that right one to come by
<v Speaker 2>that we can easily pluck out of there, whether rifle, muzzlo,
<v Speaker 2>or bow. I feel that it was attracted there by
<v Speaker 2>what was coming into the feeder. I don't think it
<v Speaker 2>was ever eating my corn. Now, my brother did have one,
<v Speaker 2>and I think it was a squatch. I mean, it
<v Speaker 2>literally destroyed his feeder. You know, he didn't get anything
<v Speaker 2>on camera, but his I mean his It destroyed that fegure.
<v Speaker 2>And the thing that I found interesting is the lid
<v Speaker 2>to that it has a twist off lid on top.
<v Speaker 2>The lid. I found probably thirty forty yards inside the woodline.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it carried the lid over there,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it just totally destroyed this feeder. And
<v Speaker 2>he's like, what the heck Kappadir did this? You know,
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, in my mind, you ain't gonna believe
<v Speaker 2>me if I told you. Yeah, I think it was
<v Speaker 2>the after what was coming into the feater.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes sense, and they're looking for an easy meal.
<v Speaker 1>What color was the eye shine?
<v Speaker 2>The eye shine was like a kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>yellowish green top. It's what it was. Even the eye
<v Speaker 2>shines that I see, of course, the ones that I see, uh,
<v Speaker 2>the ones when I had those five that were around me,
<v Speaker 2>they're hitting them with that red white makes their eyes
<v Speaker 2>look just a little bit different. You know. I've heard
<v Speaker 2>people say that they've seen like blue eye shines and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, but they were kind of a reddish
<v Speaker 2>looking eye. Of course, I was shooting a red light
<v Speaker 2>at them when I had five of them around me,
<v Speaker 2>But you know, they all sounded like they were calling
<v Speaker 2>each other, sounded like hood owls, but you could tell
<v Speaker 2>it was too dang big to be a hoodo, And
<v Speaker 2>a hoodo is gonna be in up on the top
<v Speaker 2>of the tree, not eight, ten, twelve, fifteen feet off
<v Speaker 2>the ground, and probably not five of them. Three on
<v Speaker 2>one side of the river, two on the other side
<v Speaker 2>of the river. And they definitely a't gonna have eyes
<v Speaker 2>that big. So I feel there's at least five down there,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a clan, you know, I'm sure the fourteen inch
<v Speaker 2>tracks that I got pictures of, I figured it was
<v Speaker 2>a juvenile, the ones that were throwing rocks at me.
<v Speaker 2>I figure. I've heard the juveniles are pretty much jokesters.
<v Speaker 2>They'll they'll do most of the you know, throwing stuff
<v Speaker 2>at you and whatnot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, the sasquatch that I hit with the spotlight,
<v Speaker 1>their eyes were like a yellowish green color as well.
<v Speaker 1>But I've also heard reports from other people where they're
<v Speaker 1>like a gold color, red and like you said, blue.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there's just one distinct color that.
<v Speaker 2>Our eyes are different. But you know, when you've got
<v Speaker 2>to you know, almost a baseball sized pair of eyes,
<v Speaker 2>you know that you can distinctively see, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>you can distinctly see them blink their eyes. You know,
<v Speaker 2>that's not a you know, five hundred pound coon over
<v Speaker 2>there on side on side of that tree.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Were they self illuminated or was there like a
<v Speaker 1>light being casted on the eyes.
<v Speaker 2>No, I've never seen one where, you know, and I've
<v Speaker 2>heard stories of you could see the eyes they were
<v Speaker 2>red and stuff like that. All of mine, the eyes
<v Speaker 2>that eye shines that I have seen have been you know,
<v Speaker 2>due to me shining lights towards their way. I've never
<v Speaker 2>seen any go in the dark eyes. I've heard a
<v Speaker 2>lot of reports of that and witness witness reports and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, but I've never ever, you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>always reflecting back on whatever I was shining that them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the tree breaks that you found where it
<v Speaker 1>was fresh greens, they broke the tops and put it
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the road or the trail. Why
<v Speaker 1>do you think they did that.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I can think of maybe a territorial Hey,
<v Speaker 2>this is my area, don't come down this road because
<v Speaker 2>I've heard them doing that, you know, eye witness reports
<v Speaker 2>of squatches, you know, putting logs and stuff or tree
<v Speaker 2>breaks across roads. To kind of say, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>only thing you know, I could do is speculate. You know,
<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing everybody can do, is speculate. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we don't know for sure yet, you know, I think
<v Speaker 2>it is time progresses on, you know, possibly we'll know solid,
<v Speaker 2>you know, But here's my thinking. You know, there's many
<v Speaker 2>eyewitnesses to say, you know, for somebody to think, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like you know, I love my God
<v Speaker 2>and uh. I remember a guy in my church arguing
<v Speaker 2>with me when we started talking about Sasquatch and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you ain't never saw a year And I
<v Speaker 2>asked him, I said, you believe in God? He said, well,
<v Speaker 2>of course I do. I said, have you ever singing?
<v Speaker 2>Well no, I said, how can you say that about Sasquatch?
<v Speaker 2>Just because you hadn't seen it doesn't mean that he
<v Speaker 2>doesn't exist. Yeah. God does exist absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>Once you have an encounter, you'll never go back. And oh,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's hard to have an encounter with God,
<v Speaker 1>but it does happen like people do. Yeah. I've had
<v Speaker 1>some strange experiences. I didn't see God, but like moments
<v Speaker 1>in my life where I cried out to God for
<v Speaker 1>help and then boom, like something happened, like a miracle.
<v Speaker 1>It's like you can't deny that, right.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah? Yeah, God has made himself very tangible to me.
<v Speaker 2>January sixteenth to two thousands, when I Jesus came crashing
<v Speaker 2>into my life and changed my life forever. It's been
<v Speaker 2>a little over twenty five years ago and I'm still walking.
<v Speaker 2>Had my struggles, you know, had my dark moments that
<v Speaker 2>I've went through I walk out and been perfect, you know,
<v Speaker 2>But I'm still in the game, still telling people about Jesus,
<v Speaker 2>still following him and trying to do the best I can,
<v Speaker 2>the best I can do that way, when I see
<v Speaker 2>face to face. You know, I pondered a question this
<v Speaker 2>little off course. I pondered a question a while back.
<v Speaker 2>You know, what would I do when I see Jesus
<v Speaker 2>face to face? What will I say? You know? It's
<v Speaker 2>kind of like that one song will I Will I
<v Speaker 2>dance before Jesus while I follow my face opened the
<v Speaker 2>eyes of a herd Lord. I can't remember what that
<v Speaker 2>song is, but they made a movie out of it.
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I pondered a couple of questions, you know,
<v Speaker 2>then I get it right Jesus And was I even close?
<v Speaker 2>You know? That's and and that's a tough, tough, tough question,
<v Speaker 2>you know, or a tough statement. You know. Uh, I've
<v Speaker 2>tried to do the best I can in my Christian walk.
<v Speaker 2>I fall short, and I've got my issues and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And that's my last ex wife. Uh, She'll tell you
<v Speaker 2>how many issues I got it. Uh. I didn't want
<v Speaker 2>a divorce, but that's that's the direction she chose uh,
<v Speaker 2>and uh, I hated that because we loved hunting together
<v Speaker 2>and she get bloggered up by these creatures. But I
<v Speaker 2>wish her well. But uh, you know, I I've had
<v Speaker 2>a lifetime of experience with these things, with these creatures,
<v Speaker 2>and I've enjoyed every experience, and I pray I never
<v Speaker 2>have a bad experience. But I promise you, I don't
<v Speaker 2>care if you're a heathen, are you born again? When
<v Speaker 2>you get in a close proximity of these creatures, you
<v Speaker 2>will pray. I promise you will pray, whether you know
<v Speaker 2>the Good Lord or not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's very true. And yeah, it's amazing you had
<v Speaker 1>these experiences that strengthen your faith. The creature that you
<v Speaker 1>encountered in the groundblind, you said it was twelve inches
<v Speaker 1>from your face and then it screamed. What did it
<v Speaker 1>look like? Did you see the face.
<v Speaker 2>I saw? I saw the face on that one. That
<v Speaker 2>one more looked like you know. It had big, huge
<v Speaker 2>black eyes. The nose was flat, and it had like
<v Speaker 2>the one that I saw when I was twelve. It
<v Speaker 2>had like big blocky it looked like horse teeth. It's
<v Speaker 2>probably the best I could explain. It didn't have long
<v Speaker 2>hair like the first one I encountered, but it did
<v Speaker 2>have hair on its head and on its on its face,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, like real close around his eyes, you know,
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a whole bunch of hair there. There wasn't
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hair on his nose. There was a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of hair on his nose and around his
<v Speaker 2>lips and stuff. There wasn't a whole lot of hair there.
<v Speaker 2>But he did have hair on his face, and his
<v Speaker 2>hair was probably because he was leaning over sideways looking
<v Speaker 2>at me, and it was probably three four inch hair
<v Speaker 2>on the side of his head that was kind of
<v Speaker 2>hanging down just a little bit. And he wouldn't a
<v Speaker 2>dirty one either, like the first one eye saw. You know,
<v Speaker 2>he looked pretty clean. But it was just a flash
<v Speaker 2>of a second, just like in the imprint, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like a flash bug in the dark. Uh, And he
<v Speaker 2>was gone. And I tried to tried to run through
<v Speaker 2>that ground line. If it was possible to run through
<v Speaker 2>that ground line, I had to run through that ground line.
<v Speaker 2>This scared the fire out of me, but it scared
<v Speaker 2>him too, you know. He screamed, I screamed, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>he went his way, and I tried to go my
<v Speaker 2>I mean I ripped the whole side of my blind
<v Speaker 2>that tried to run, try to run through that cotton
<v Speaker 2>big infect scared the fire out of me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't imagine how terrifying it was when you
<v Speaker 1>laid eyes on this creature, knowing how close it was,
<v Speaker 1>and then it tore off through the woods and you
<v Speaker 1>could hear it. I mean, just the fact that it
<v Speaker 1>screamed in your face. That that's just scary.
<v Speaker 2>Man.
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine the fear that you felt.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I knew he was there, you know, I felt
<v Speaker 2>it in my body that you know, this thing is
<v Speaker 2>out there, but I never in I was trying to
<v Speaker 2>peek around the corner and catch When the lightning struck,
<v Speaker 2>I figured, you know, I knew there was one there.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize how close he was. I figured because
<v Speaker 2>when I heard that stick pop, that was probably maybe
<v Speaker 2>ten yards from my blind. So I actually thought I
<v Speaker 2>would see a silhouette when I looked around, looked around
<v Speaker 2>trying to look behind my blind, I didn't want to
<v Speaker 2>open and all I had to do is undo two
<v Speaker 2>things and flat that down. And and there's no camouflage there,
<v Speaker 2>So it had just been an open window, because that's
<v Speaker 2>that's a place that you can shoot, you go through.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to look through there, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>be exposed myself. But I knew in the cameo that
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't see in. But when I looked around there
<v Speaker 2>in that lightning flashed. He was just as about as
<v Speaker 2>surprised as I was. And he was I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if he was as scared as I was, but I
<v Speaker 2>mean he did turntail and go the other way when
<v Speaker 2>I screamed, you know it sound like a bulldozer going
<v Speaker 2>through the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard it before. I mean, these things just
<v Speaker 1>tear through the woods. I always describe it as someone
<v Speaker 1>putting a truck and neutral and letting it roll through
<v Speaker 1>the woods. And you can just hear trees and limbs
<v Speaker 1>just snapping and popping as this thing is moving through
<v Speaker 1>the woods. And the one I heard it like zig
<v Speaker 1>zag through the woods. And basically what happened. I had
<v Speaker 1>some experiences on the river. I called them in. They
<v Speaker 1>pushed over a tree once, screamed at me that night.
<v Speaker 1>So when I got home, I lived like five minutes
<v Speaker 1>from the Merrimack River here in Missouri, I was doing
<v Speaker 1>that same call again, trying to replicate it, like, what
<v Speaker 1>the heck? You know, what was that that came in
<v Speaker 1>that night? And all of a sudden, it was almost
<v Speaker 1>before dark, and I did that same whoop call, and
<v Speaker 1>this thing came tearing through the woods. It was zigzagging
<v Speaker 1>making its way towards me, and you could just hear
<v Speaker 1>limbs and trees just snapping as it made its way
<v Speaker 1>towards me. And right when it got dark, it like
<v Speaker 1>stopped at the edge of the woodline, probably like twenty
<v Speaker 1>thirty yards in the woods, and it just stopped and
<v Speaker 1>everything got quiet. But man, that was spooky. People say,
<v Speaker 1>you can't call these things in people that would knock
<v Speaker 1>and call our morons, but it's it's worked for me
<v Speaker 1>now it doesn't now, but I don't know why. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>maybe they know my call. But yeah, that was terrifying.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the wood knocks, I'd stop logging those because there's
<v Speaker 2>so many down there, you know, And oh, that's just
<v Speaker 2>a limb breaking or something like that. It's like, dude,
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's wood to wood. That is somebody or
<v Speaker 2>something knocking the fire. I mean, it's too loud, it's
<v Speaker 2>too powerful to be just a limb hitting the ground
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And it sounds like you've had a lot of
<v Speaker 1>activity down there. And you heard whooping by the beaver
<v Speaker 1>pond and it was making crazy sounds. What other kind
<v Speaker 1>of sound did you hear by the beaver pond?
<v Speaker 2>Now, by the beaver pond, it was, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>could you can hear the sounds, but to be able
<v Speaker 2>to make a noise like that, I don't. My brain
<v Speaker 2>in my mouth don't don't work that way, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But I knew the first sound that I heard, it
<v Speaker 2>brought me all the way to where I was twelve
<v Speaker 2>years old. I mean, it just went right through my body.
<v Speaker 2>I knew exactly what it was, and it was an
<v Speaker 2>instant fear and it just kept going on. And why
<v Speaker 2>I didn't reach down and get my cotton picking phone
<v Speaker 2>and record this thing, I guess I was just in
<v Speaker 2>shock literally on the dis encounter here. But and then
<v Speaker 2>one time, like I said, it sounded like Samurai warriors.
<v Speaker 2>Could you really got you know, kind of like kind
<v Speaker 2>of like that, you know, it's probably about the best.
<v Speaker 2>And it was different. As it walked down that down
<v Speaker 2>that creek back there behind me, probably fifty yards It
<v Speaker 2>was probably about fifty yards from me, and yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>mean it was just wild. It's just wild. But it
<v Speaker 2>sounded like two Japanese Samurai warriors or I think samurai.
<v Speaker 2>I think they're Japanese, is what it sounded like. But
<v Speaker 2>it didn't start out that way, but it ended up
<v Speaker 2>making its whoop and the like whoa, you know, real
<v Speaker 2>out or the huffing. This one didn't huff, but I've heard,
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, like it's just it's there are
<v Speaker 2>sounds that they make are extremely hard for for I
<v Speaker 2>think for any human to emulate or try to mimic.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I couldn't imagine the size of the lung.
<v Speaker 2>Is the power that these things have to make the
<v Speaker 2>noise that they make, because it's been more than once
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I'd hear these noises and it would
<v Speaker 2>vibrate inside you at the power of these things when
<v Speaker 2>they do mate. You know, I've never had nothing when
<v Speaker 2>they whooped, I've never had them, you know, none of
<v Speaker 2>that vibrating when they scream and them huffs. Know, it'll
<v Speaker 2>make the hair on the back of your head next
<v Speaker 2>stand up every time.
<v Speaker 1>Picking time, Yeah, absolutely, and you know it's it's amazing
<v Speaker 1>to experience this type of activity and encounter them, but
<v Speaker 1>it's also like, I don't know, it's like a blessing
<v Speaker 1>and a curse. So I am sorry that you've had
<v Speaker 1>to deal with this your whole life, and even with
<v Speaker 1>things in our regular life, we just can't understand why
<v Speaker 1>they happen and we're left wondering why and we never
<v Speaker 1>get an answer. And when you you experience something like this,
<v Speaker 1>it really leaves you questioning and it's just like you
<v Speaker 1>got to live with it and you never you never
<v Speaker 1>really get an answer. It's good to know there's other
<v Speaker 1>people out there that have had experiences and they've encountered them,
<v Speaker 1>but you just know that there's others. It still doesn't
<v Speaker 1>answer the questions that you have, like why did this
<v Speaker 1>happen to me? And you know, it just proves that
<v Speaker 1>there's things on this planet that we don't understand. There's
<v Speaker 1>unknown creatures on this planet that have not been discovered,
<v Speaker 1>or you know, if you look at it from a
<v Speaker 1>spiritual point of view, you know there's a purpose behind
<v Speaker 1>all this. Nothing just happens out of luck, like there's
<v Speaker 1>a design to it all, and you know, if there's
<v Speaker 1>a spiritual purpose behind it, maybe it shows God's glory
<v Speaker 1>because it proves that the nephil one we're here and
<v Speaker 1>everything God said is true, and basically we are living
<v Speaker 1>in the end of times possibly and it's just like
<v Speaker 1>Noah's time.
<v Speaker 2>I believe that. Yeah, right, there's no queink you think
<v Speaker 2>in God's work. There's no queen thinks in God's Bible.
<v Speaker 2>You know his word is true. The nextalens, we're here.
<v Speaker 2>You know. I've heard people talk about, you know, portals
<v Speaker 2>and seeing them go through portals being able to cloak.
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything like that. I've seen some pretty
<v Speaker 2>convincing videos on that, you know. But I have to
<v Speaker 2>think back to you know, sometimes in the Bible you
<v Speaker 2>have to go out of the Bible to understand the Bible,
<v Speaker 2>you know, you have to go to the writings of
<v Speaker 2>Josephus and stuff like that. But what I found very
<v Speaker 2>interesting is Jesus spoke about a cat in the Bible,
<v Speaker 2>and he only has a brief little deal, but it
<v Speaker 2>says enot what we're God was no more, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And then when Jesus in the New Testament referred back
<v Speaker 2>to the Book of no well, that piqued my interest.
<v Speaker 2>So I had to go to the Book at Enoch
<v Speaker 2>and figure out what who this god was. And that's
<v Speaker 2>outside of the Bible to understand what Jesus was talking about.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, the Book of Enoch was originally in
<v Speaker 2>the Bible, but you know, scholars decided to take some
<v Speaker 2>of the books out. I think the original Bible had
<v Speaker 2>eighty books in it, uh compile their stories and whatnot,
<v Speaker 2>and some of them are pretty far out there. But
<v Speaker 2>in the Book of Enoch, it it talks about you know,
<v Speaker 2>portals that he went into other dimensions and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, So when it comes to these creatures, I'm
<v Speaker 2>very open minded on people. You know, when they tell
<v Speaker 2>me their encounters and what happened to them. Uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>they take me out, show me, show me stuff where
<v Speaker 2>it happened and stuff like that. Uh. So I don't
<v Speaker 2>don't denounce, you know, and you can you can tell
<v Speaker 2>that somebody's genuinely, you know, has had an encounter that
<v Speaker 2>has really affected their lives, because like you said earlier,
<v Speaker 2>they're marked by that. They're marked by that, whether it
<v Speaker 2>was a peaceful encounter or not a peaceful encounter. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I believe my first one was a peaceful encounter. But
<v Speaker 2>yet that traumatized me as a kid, and I've carried
<v Speaker 2>that up through my adulthood, you know, and it just
<v Speaker 2>kind of laid their dormant for years until bam. Once
<v Speaker 2>I heard that noise, you know, from that one back
<v Speaker 2>there by the Fever Pond. It all triggered all that
<v Speaker 2>stuff back back at seventy four seventy five when I
<v Speaker 2>had that first encounter, you know. So I'm very open
<v Speaker 2>minded to the fact that I know these creatures exist,
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I call them. I call them creatures.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not for sure if they're you know, half man,
<v Speaker 2>half eight, you know, are they from the Netherlands? You
<v Speaker 2>know where they created from the watchers? What are their
<v Speaker 2>dimensional beings? You know, I haven't seen it myself, but
<v Speaker 2>if somebody says that they've seen stuff like that, I'm
<v Speaker 2>not going to make fun of them. They had an
<v Speaker 2>encounter of something that I hadn't had. You know. It's
<v Speaker 2>kind of like me and you you know, you can
<v Speaker 2>read a scripture and come up with a whole different
<v Speaker 2>interpretation then than I than what God speaks to me
<v Speaker 2>in that scripture, you know. So why should I throw
<v Speaker 2>a rocket somebody over here? Because they've seen one walk
<v Speaker 2>through a porto and I haven't, you know, so I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't dismiss that at all, because it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>in the book be Not and Whatnot. So it says
<v Speaker 2>that they, you know they and you had to look
<v Speaker 2>at all the hieroglyphics of of things that have been
<v Speaker 2>in you know, buried for centuries, and you know, you
<v Speaker 2>see a half man, half bird, you know. Uh, I
<v Speaker 2>think I think the Watchers does some jacked up stuff,
<v Speaker 2>you know, before the flood, and uh, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>Bible calls them men of renown. You know, then you're
<v Speaker 2>a giant's Goliath and all his brothers, you know, so
<v Speaker 2>there was incident, lived and thrive here on this planet.
<v Speaker 2>Why can't we believe that they're still giants? They just
<v Speaker 2>carry a little bit more hair than we have today.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's crazy, and you can you can jump
<v Speaker 2>in that rabbit hole and go long ways with all
<v Speaker 2>this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, but it does point towards what's happening today.
<v Speaker 1>So and maybe another rabbit hole. But there's not very
<v Speaker 1>many answers out there. And it seems like the people
<v Speaker 1>in the Bible or just history in general, they've lived
<v Speaker 1>through this life. You know, they they know what was
<v Speaker 1>here and what's happening, and they went through the same
<v Speaker 1>struggles that we go through today. So they weren't stupid
<v Speaker 1>back then.
<v Speaker 2>But no, not at all, not at all. No, no, no, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'll find it would myself. You know, I consider myself
<v Speaker 2>very fortunate to have the counters that I have had. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>It's been education show. It's been scary at times. It's
<v Speaker 2>been traumatizing at times. You know, if you can make
<v Speaker 2>something can make a grown man wet as riches, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>that's trauma. But you know I didn't get hurt. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was going to get hurt, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>oh and all it's a peaceful encounter. You know, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>scary sometimes, but I still consider myself I find these
<v Speaker 2>creatures very fascinating and I want to know more about him.
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's it can becoming overwhelming addiction big time,
<v Speaker 2>you know. Uh, as you know, this is what you
<v Speaker 2>do now because of your encounters, you know, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>I'm praying early, you know, sometime in the near future,
<v Speaker 2>I can start doing more, uh, you know, going out
<v Speaker 2>and just you know, going on bigfoot expeditions and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Because they're everywhere there everywhere. You just gotta know what
<v Speaker 2>to look for.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Maybe we can meet up sometime and go camping
<v Speaker 1>if you're up for it.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would love that. Now my camping is my RB.
<v Speaker 2>Uh I've seen I've seen your tent and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>I'm cool with that if that's the way you want
<v Speaker 2>to go. But uh, you know, I'll take my RB
<v Speaker 2>and we set it up somewhere in the woods and
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, uh, I prefer to go that way.
<v Speaker 2>But if you want to do it, can I would
<v Speaker 2>really like to look up with you, maybe come down
<v Speaker 2>here on this hunting release of mind and show you
<v Speaker 2>around and whatnot. Work you've got something set up in
<v Speaker 2>the future, I'd love to tag along, okay and come
<v Speaker 2>in and set some stuff up and do a production
<v Speaker 2>with you and go out and do some looking around
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Heck, yeah, okay, let's do that for sure. Make sure
<v Speaker 1>that you message me. I get tied up with so
<v Speaker 1>many people contacted me and I'm like, oh man, who
<v Speaker 1>was that guy? Because I got like so many Daves
<v Speaker 1>and David's on my phone. So just make sure that
<v Speaker 1>you keep in contact and we'll make it happen for sure,
<v Speaker 1>because that's not too far away.
<v Speaker 2>From that, right. Well, they called me super Dave from
<v Speaker 2>from a fight I got into in high school. But
<v Speaker 2>in my EMC world, they tagged me with Sasquatch because
<v Speaker 2>I always talked about me to it. They thought I
<v Speaker 2>was crazy. Of course I was a big muscle, long
<v Speaker 2>haired guy, you know, Joe Baharley, So they tagged me
<v Speaker 2>with Sasquatch. So Super Dave aka Sasquatch is what most
<v Speaker 2>people know me of. But you can put me in
<v Speaker 2>the phone anywhere anyway. But but yeah, let's let's letk
<v Speaker 2>let's get in touch with each other man and set
<v Speaker 2>something up and go do something.
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about it, okay, Yeah, just let me know
<v Speaker 1>and we'll make it happen for sure. There was an
<v Speaker 1>area that you found tracks, or you found tracks in
<v Speaker 1>several areas, but you mentioned this lake where it screamed
<v Speaker 1>across the lake. Now that scream sounded different than the
<v Speaker 1>other ones that you heard, like in New Mexico and
<v Speaker 1>at the tent.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, the screams, you know, it's just kind
<v Speaker 2>of like me screaming and you screaming. It's not going
<v Speaker 2>to be the same. Screen but yet it's a screen
<v Speaker 2>hands down and that one. We were just kind of
<v Speaker 2>going along the edge of lake right Patman Lake down
<v Speaker 2>there in Texas this last weekend, and we were just
<v Speaker 2>kind of setting on this log. We went down to
<v Speaker 2>the edge to see if this is where Steamboat said
<v Speaker 2>he saw a fifteen footer sasquatch down there, and he
<v Speaker 2>says he mind speaks with him and stuff, which I
<v Speaker 2>find very fascinating. But I think he caught is it Samson?
<v Speaker 2>He called this one. I can't he had names for him.
<v Speaker 2>But we went down in that area there where he
<v Speaker 2>saw that fifteen foot sasquatch. We're going down the edge
<v Speaker 2>of the lake and onenot I was trying to find
<v Speaker 2>some tracks. You know, I ordered did some more dental material.
<v Speaker 2>In the material I uses what Dennis is used to
<v Speaker 2>cast your key because you can get you can get
<v Speaker 2>like ridges in their feet and stuff. This stuff is
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal to cast bigfoot tracks with and it's a lot
<v Speaker 2>harder and don't break as easy as flaster of Paris.
<v Speaker 2>But so it was going down there looking for tracks
<v Speaker 2>and stuff because I wanted to cast some tracks and stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And we're just sitting here on this log and we
<v Speaker 2>were just kind of talking back and forth, and then
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you know, across from the lake
<v Speaker 2>here the sucker shot off man, and it was a
<v Speaker 2>very loud, long drawled out. You know, Uh, there's no
<v Speaker 2>way a human could produce that, law. I don't care
<v Speaker 2>if they're an opera singer, they can't go that. It
<v Speaker 2>was a long and loud and this thing was probably
<v Speaker 2>you know, three to five hundred yards from us, but
<v Speaker 2>it was, I mean, it was very distinctive, very long,
<v Speaker 2>high pitch bulk kind of started out low, went to
<v Speaker 2>high and then started fading out. And by the time
<v Speaker 2>it got almost was done with that screen. Ever, cout
<v Speaker 2>on that side of the of the lake just fired
<v Speaker 2>off and started yelping. I got that, but I didn't
<v Speaker 2>get I may have got the end of the screen.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to go back there and listen
<v Speaker 2>to the audio. Uh, but you know, time I got
<v Speaker 2>my iPhone, I was like, oh man, I just missed that,
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was. It was very unique, very interesting,
<v Speaker 2>very interesting scream. But a dang sure with the humans, yes,
<v Speaker 2>for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, that's terrifying. Whenever you were fishing and you
<v Speaker 1>woke up I think you said you were face down
<v Speaker 1>by the chair. What do you think happened? And do
<v Speaker 1>you do you believe that possibly these creatures had something
<v Speaker 1>to do with it, because I think you mentioned experiencing
<v Speaker 1>experiencing some activity before that happened.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did experience and activity before that happened. I
<v Speaker 2>knew they were there. My dog alerted me to let
<v Speaker 2>me know that they were there, so I know they
<v Speaker 2>were there. There was the pebbles that dropped in the water,
<v Speaker 2>there was a tree that shook that day, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the whole infrasound type stuff. Now.
<v Speaker 2>I have been like when we were out this last weekend,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I had kind of a spell and I
<v Speaker 2>just got all of a sudden just you know, I'm
<v Speaker 2>a pretty healthy person. I keep myself, I know the
<v Speaker 2>gym uh and I stay fit and take a lot
<v Speaker 2>of vitamins. I try to take care of myself as
<v Speaker 2>I continue to age, and all of a sudden, I
<v Speaker 2>got real quizy, real dizzy, broke out in a cold sweat.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was so bad. I had to go
<v Speaker 2>go and lay down, you know, and they come got
<v Speaker 2>me and said, hey man, there's something throwing limbs into
<v Speaker 2>the camp. So I got up for a little bit
<v Speaker 2>and I almost fell over again. I was like, God, y'all,
<v Speaker 2>let me know what happened in the morning, and I
<v Speaker 2>gotta lay down. But if they you know, there's possibility,
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I can't remember anything, you know. All
<v Speaker 2>I remember was sitting in my chair. I knew these
<v Speaker 2>things were around us, and the next thing I knew,
<v Speaker 2>you know. And there's there's a loss of time there,
<v Speaker 2>you know. Uh. I know when this took place. It
<v Speaker 2>was probably maybe around midnight, one o'clock in the morning.
<v Speaker 2>Uh uh, And next thing I know, I woke up
<v Speaker 2>the next morning, you know, whether it's somebody hit where
<v Speaker 2>they hit me. I don't remember feeling quisi or anything
<v Speaker 2>like that. And I have never been known to just
<v Speaker 2>pass out ever in my life. But I woke up
<v Speaker 2>when bud caked on the side of my face. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>land on that land on that. I remember getting up
<v Speaker 2>and uh, but I don't remember gathering my stuff. I
<v Speaker 2>remember driving and I'm probably three miles four miles for
<v Speaker 2>the camp. I don't remember driving back to camp. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember anything. I mean, it's just all of
<v Speaker 2>blur It's just like a blank time and space that
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't remember nothing, you know, of what
<v Speaker 2>what took place, How long I was laying there on
<v Speaker 2>the ground. Uh, it was. It was real freaky, real freaky.
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's just like everything just wasn't black. And
<v Speaker 2>I was in until I woke up the next morning.
<v Speaker 2>So whether that was in for sound or anything like that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've heard people saying, you know, it made
<v Speaker 2>him for a real quizzy. They wanted to pass out,
<v Speaker 2>you know, they had to go sit down. I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>but it was I know them things were around because
<v Speaker 2>I caught thee eye shines my dog let me know
<v Speaker 2>they were there. The next thing I remember, I'm in
<v Speaker 2>in camp when all my stuff loaded up. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember anything about packing my stuff up or
<v Speaker 2>even what time I left or anything like that. I
<v Speaker 2>woke up the next morning, I felt fine, got a
<v Speaker 2>got the blud off my face, you know, changed my
<v Speaker 2>sheets of RV, made me some breakfast, drong some coffee,
<v Speaker 2>and then I hauled but brought back down there to see,
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I've left anything, or if there was
<v Speaker 2>any tracks or anything like that. But there was no
<v Speaker 2>tracks that I can find, but I definitely knew they
<v Speaker 2>were there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be the only explanation that I would
<v Speaker 1>have as infra sound. And possibly they disoriented you and
<v Speaker 1>you passed out. I mean, I don't have another explanation
<v Speaker 1>as to what could have taken place there. And it's
<v Speaker 1>kind of scary because it's like, did they take you
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and then bring you back? It actually wonder.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I was still fully clothed. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I had my my my knife was still in my boot.
<v Speaker 2>I carry a very large knife. My gun was still
<v Speaker 2>on my hip. Of course, they had mud all over
<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't tell tell you what happened. But the
<v Speaker 2>only thing I can tell you about that it did happen.
<v Speaker 2>So where they scoop me up, took me some other place?
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, and I have You know a lot
<v Speaker 2>of people have encounters where they see little balls of
<v Speaker 2>light and stuff. I've seen that quite a bit down there.
<v Speaker 2>Of course the garden. Now I'm not in all these
<v Speaker 2>encounters don't take place in gurden. I'll share with you
<v Speaker 2>off off camera about where exactly where they're at, but
<v Speaker 2>they have the garden lights down there to where there's
<v Speaker 2>balls of lights that you can see when you go
<v Speaker 2>down the railroad tracks in a certain place, but it's
<v Speaker 2>known for the garden lights is what they call it.
<v Speaker 2>But you can see those, you know, some of the
<v Speaker 2>encounters that I have had, I've seen the orbs and
<v Speaker 2>stuff locked out down there. So it's just all kind
<v Speaker 2>of weird, but it's all kind of fascinating too. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I'm glad you mentioned the orbs because that's
<v Speaker 1>a crucial piece of evidence to these experiences, and I
<v Speaker 1>believe it's tied in with the activity I've heard of
<v Speaker 1>the Dover lights in Arkansas, and yeah, that's that's incredible
<v Speaker 1>to know there's another area where people are seeing lights.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there's any just specific areas, but
<v Speaker 1>there's some places where people see them more. But you
<v Speaker 1>can see the lights anywhere in the forest, and it's
<v Speaker 1>it's mysterious. It's it seems like there's an intelligence behind it,
<v Speaker 1>and there's a spooky feeling to it all. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel like it's tied in Sasquatch. Many
<v Speaker 1>people have mentioned those are the portals or it's Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>like manipulating energy, and I think it very well could be.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's not. It's not normal, not something that
<v Speaker 2>you see in the woods every day, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And whenever I encountered the orbs, I was
<v Speaker 1>having sasquatch watch activity. So that's what makes me believe
<v Speaker 1>it's tight end. And I've also heard many reports and
<v Speaker 1>have taken many reports where people see a sasquatch and
<v Speaker 1>it turns into a ball of light or they're having
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch activity and they see these strange orbs floating around.
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, I'm sold the orbs a whole lot, but
<v Speaker 2>I have seen them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are out there. And what do you feel?
<v Speaker 1>What do you think the messages with the arches that
<v Speaker 1>you found and you mentioned tps. Do you think it's
<v Speaker 1>a warning? Do you think like they live in these things?
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts about it?
<v Speaker 2>Well, a couple of things. You know, could it be
<v Speaker 2>marking their territory, you know, because I find the you know,
<v Speaker 2>the it was lack this weekend we went out. We
<v Speaker 2>found a lot of arches and we found you know,
<v Speaker 2>structures made with pine trees and stuff that you know,
<v Speaker 2>some of them we picked up from the bottom. There's
<v Speaker 2>no broken trees around there. You pick them up from
<v Speaker 2>the bottom. There's no root system on these trees. They
<v Speaker 2>had been brought there and stacked and there was a
<v Speaker 2>lot of arches that were they were intertwined with each
<v Speaker 2>other and stuff down there. This last week, I've got
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of pictures and some videos on stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, whether it's a territorial type thing or you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure as human like as these creatures are, I
<v Speaker 2>think they get bored, like, Okay, let's let's do something,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that could be another option there. Sometimes I'm
<v Speaker 2>think about, well, maybe it's more it is going to
<v Speaker 2>just do this, but it's it's you know, I remember
<v Speaker 2>seeing stuff like that down there when I was a kid.
<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing stuff like that in New Mexico and
<v Speaker 2>especially here and o're in Texas. There was this one
<v Speaker 2>set of woods that was just like wow, Wow, this
<v Speaker 2>is so cool, and that's where we found that one
<v Speaker 2>track at a But it was so piny, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't see any tracks because of the leaves and
<v Speaker 2>the pine this time of the year on the ground
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. I was real disappointed. I was really wanting
<v Speaker 2>to cast the track at that one. It was in
<v Speaker 2>the water. I'd have to drain that whole area and
<v Speaker 2>let it dry out a little bit before I could
<v Speaker 2>even cast in, So I didn't get to cast in.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. Do you have any other experiences that you
<v Speaker 1>forgot about, anything else that you'd like to share?
<v Speaker 2>No, I guess that's about I mean, I've had some
<v Speaker 2>you know, minute things happened, you know, throwing stuff at
<v Speaker 2>me from where I hunt at down there. It's just
<v Speaker 2>kind of been. It's just kind of like coming norm now,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the big big things that I have, I
<v Speaker 2>you know, I loghead with the tree breaks and the
<v Speaker 2>whistles and the fake bird calls and the fake hoodows.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just you know, I stopped logging those
<v Speaker 2>be doesn't happen so much. And then I went went
<v Speaker 2>through my wife laughter, went through a divorce. So the
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years, year and a half, I haven't
<v Speaker 2>spent as much time because you know, I was going
<v Speaker 2>through a whole lot, real dark time in my life,
<v Speaker 2>so I wouldn't. I haven't spent as much time as
<v Speaker 2>I've dedicated this year. This year it's like, no, I'm
<v Speaker 2>going back for the woods. And so I've had just
<v Speaker 2>a few little things happen. So we're actually going down
<v Speaker 2>this weekend. We're gonna spend three days down there right
<v Speaker 2>in a hot spot, and we're gonna fish stay out
<v Speaker 2>on this big pond. It's in the middle of this
<v Speaker 2>big cypress swamp. We're gonna do something. They said it
<v Speaker 2>was a good fishing down there, So We're going to
<v Speaker 2>spend three days down there. So I'm gonna do some
<v Speaker 2>callings and woodnogs, some whoops and stuff and see what
<v Speaker 2>I can uh here or find out my ass family
<v Speaker 2>with me. So maybe I'll have some witnesses, you know,
<v Speaker 2>for these encounters.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's good to have people around just in case
<v Speaker 1>something goes down, and it's kind of nice when someone
<v Speaker 1>else experiences the activity. One last question I have before
<v Speaker 1>we wrap up the podcast. Were you going through an
<v Speaker 1>illness or were you experiencing paranormal activity throughout this span
<v Speaker 1>of time when you had these encounters and experiences with Bigfoot?
<v Speaker 2>Uh? That first encounter that I had, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>said it was it was it wasn't safe for me
<v Speaker 2>to be in the house. There was a lot of
<v Speaker 2>meddle and physical abuse within that household. Not for my dad,
<v Speaker 2>but he was married too, so It was a pretty
<v Speaker 2>dramatic time, is when I saw that first one. As
<v Speaker 2>far as I've been a pretty healthy person all my life,
<v Speaker 2>so I don't think there was any sickness that had
<v Speaker 2>to do with it or anything like that. I think
<v Speaker 2>everything is. I mean, it was going fairly normal in
<v Speaker 2>my life on all my encounters. There wasn't any drama
<v Speaker 2>time or anything like that going on in my life.
<v Speaker 2>Of course, usually when stuff like that happens, I just
<v Speaker 2>kind of isolated from everybody that habit of mind.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do the same thing. And yeah, it was
<v Speaker 1>just a question that I had because possibly these creatures
<v Speaker 1>are able to pick up on people's illnesses or their energy,
<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned earlier in the podcast, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with different orders and stuff like that. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I find that very plausible, you know, because uh, hey,
<v Speaker 2>what is it lions or tigers? You know, they can
<v Speaker 2>sit out here for sound as well and kind of
<v Speaker 2>paralyze animals for a for a little while. Uh, And
<v Speaker 2>I know that's documented. Uh, but uh, I believe they
<v Speaker 2>can pick up on our wars because I think every
<v Speaker 2>person does have an or we give off in a
<v Speaker 2>certain type of energy, and I think these creatures pick
<v Speaker 2>up on that. You know, I believe they can tell
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to be a harm to them or not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, no, I talked to them. I talked to them
<v Speaker 2>when I'm in the woods. You know, I'm not here
<v Speaker 2>to hurt you. We can share the land. You know,
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't mind here to whoop her, you know some vocalizations
<v Speaker 2>or uh you know, see as siding as long as
<v Speaker 2>as peaceful, you know. So I talked to these rascals. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>whether they're there or not, I'm gonna go ahead and
<v Speaker 2>speak and tell them, you know, while I'm down here
<v Speaker 2>and why I'm not because in all the actuality, I'm
<v Speaker 2>in their house.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, without a doubt. And science has proven that animals
<v Speaker 1>can see auras. And you hear that a lot from
<v Speaker 1>people that ride horses. They say, now, if you're fearful
<v Speaker 1>or you're anxious, that horse is going to be able
<v Speaker 1>to pick up on it, and he's going to feed
<v Speaker 1>off of it, and it's going to make him nervous.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Rout the Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That same with dogs too. You know, if you go
<v Speaker 1>into someone's house and you're up to no good, that
<v Speaker 1>dog's going to sense that he's going to pick up
<v Speaker 1>on it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I know, after I had just bought Christian
<v Speaker 2>in the past out of the German shepherd, I bought
<v Speaker 2>two German shepherd females that were about eight weeks old,
<v Speaker 2>and then probably they were almost a year when my
<v Speaker 2>wife laughed and the sadness that I had, you know,
<v Speaker 2>my ballops picked up on it. You know, they come
<v Speaker 2>over there and put their heads in my lap. You know,
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's kind of like they were but you know,
<v Speaker 2>they could just pick up on the sadness. So they
<v Speaker 2>were like sadness with me, and they would even the
<v Speaker 2>cat that was hers, you know, started clinging to me,
<v Speaker 2>you know, through that hard time and whatnot. I found
<v Speaker 2>that very fascinating. You know, my dogs would pick up
<v Speaker 2>on sadness and you know, come try to comfort me,
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I believe a dog or you know,
<v Speaker 2>God made dogs for humans. You know, because if you
<v Speaker 2>ever want to see the unconditional love of God, look
<v Speaker 2>at a dog. Look at a dog. It doesn't matter,
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're if you scream at it or
<v Speaker 2>anything like, you come home, they're happy to see. They're
<v Speaker 2>quick to forgive, you know, and they pick up on
<v Speaker 2>your emotions. If you're happy, they're happy. If you're sad,
<v Speaker 2>they're sad, you know, And I'll expelt backwards.
<v Speaker 1>God, yeah, absolutely, I agree with you there. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot to say think about. After this interview,
<v Speaker 1>I'm going out to the woods in an area that
<v Speaker 1>has had a lot of encounters and experiences. And wow,
<v Speaker 1>I told you before we talked that we casted a
<v Speaker 1>track out there. So I'm going to be thinking about
<v Speaker 1>everything we talked about when I'm out there. Man, look
<v Speaker 1>what you did.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, man. Every time I have a side or
<v Speaker 2>somebody comes by the shop and hey, man, you know
<v Speaker 2>there's quite a few sides around here now people don't
<v Speaker 2>even know about. You know, let's go out there and look,
<v Speaker 2>you know, tell me your story. You know, what'd you see?
<v Speaker 2>What happened here? What happened here? You know where did
<v Speaker 2>cross that right here? You know? So I find these
<v Speaker 2>creatures very very fascinating, very very fascinating.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too. All right, Dave, I appreciate your time.
<v Speaker 1>Let me know in the future when you want to
<v Speaker 1>get together and we'll, oh you bet, we'll go out
<v Speaker 1>there exploring, camping and filming and we'll see what we
<v Speaker 1>can come.
<v Speaker 2>Up with love to, Love to. I appreciate you taking
<v Speaker 2>your time to hear me out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I appreciate you too, And I'm very thankful that
<v Speaker 1>you took time off of work to speak with me
<v Speaker 1>today and to share your experiences openly with everyone here
<v Speaker 1>on the channel. And I know the people that are
<v Speaker 1>listening really appreciated these experiences because you can just tell
<v Speaker 1>they're authentic and you really experienced these sasquatch creatures, and
<v Speaker 1>I have no doubt about that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're real. Anybody out there is a skeptic, go
<v Speaker 2>out and spend some time in the woods, you know,
<v Speaker 2>just act normal. Don't go out there looking for them,
<v Speaker 2>you know, just just go out there and act normal.
<v Speaker 2>When I when I when I started en count them
<v Speaker 2>on the river, Gus went out there, played my music
<v Speaker 2>and just kind of kick back, you know.
<v Speaker 3>See a few batted eagles, catch some fish, you know,
<v Speaker 3>get off to myself and just kind of, you know,
<v Speaker 3>enjoy nature, just kind of be able to unwind, no pressures,
<v Speaker 3>no phone calls, no business, no ministry or anything like that,
<v Speaker 3>and just kind of just kick back on my own time.
<v Speaker 2>You know. Talk gives me a time to reflect, you know,
<v Speaker 2>with my God, and these creatures just show up. They
<v Speaker 2>do love Southern.
<v Speaker 3>Rock music, by the way, so play a little Southern
<v Speaker 3>rock music and see what happens, you know, see if
<v Speaker 3>you can get one.
<v Speaker 2>To come in.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, they're attracted to music, the sounds of people talking,
<v Speaker 1>and they're very curious by nature. Right, yeah, okay, all right, Dave. Well,
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everything, and if you have any questions, feel
<v Speaker 1>free to shoot me a message. Be sure to keep
<v Speaker 1>in contact, and yeah, I'm sure you're going to think
<v Speaker 1>of more things that have taken place after we get
<v Speaker 1>off the phone, but hopefully we get to talk again
<v Speaker 1>in the future.
<v Speaker 2>There you go. God bless you, my friend.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, God bless and you take care. All right, all right, Dave,
<v Speaker 1>thank you again for sharing your bigfoot encounters and experiences
<v Speaker 1>from the state of Arkansas and New Mexico. I can
<v Speaker 1>only imagine how you felt when you encountered this creature
<v Speaker 1>in the water. When it's slash water on you. I
<v Speaker 1>think it was a sign of aggression and it was
<v Speaker 1>being very territorial. It was shown you who is the
<v Speaker 1>boss around the area. I've heard of the Sasquatch in
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas having really messy hair kind of like dreadlocks. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of scary to think that these creatures have
<v Speaker 1>different looks to them and there's just not one one
<v Speaker 1>species or one type. So yeah, I mean waking up
<v Speaker 1>with your face and the mud. It makes me wonder
<v Speaker 1>what happened. And if you guys have any suggestions as
<v Speaker 1>to what could have happened to Dave, please let me
<v Speaker 1>know in the comments down below. I would like to
<v Speaker 1>visit Dave and check out the area and maybe it's
<v Speaker 1>a possibility in the future. If you have a bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>encounter that you would like to share, please contact me sometime.
<v Speaker 1>It's all right. If you've already been on other channels
<v Speaker 1>or podcast, I would like to hear about it. And
<v Speaker 1>it just helps me out with the research because I
<v Speaker 1>never know if I'm going to go to the area
<v Speaker 1>and I can look back on that encounter and say, hey,
<v Speaker 1>this is what happened to this person in this area,
<v Speaker 1>so let's go look here. Also, if you guys can
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<v Speaker 1>have for today and until the next one, be safe
<v Speaker 1>out there in the forest.