Uninvited Wedding Guests and Dating Taken Men – Susan & Kathy Answer | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. We're back. Thanks for joining us. How are you doing, Susan.

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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Speaker 3: And if you haven't listened to our episode from Wednesday yet, check it out. We had my darling, little Rachel from Joey season of The Bachelor on the pod and she was amazing.

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Speaker 1: That girl is older than her years.

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Speaker 2: But before we get started, how about last week?

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Speaker 3: I'm still thinking about being at the iHeartRadio Music Awards.

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Speaker 1: Walking the gold carpet. It was it was amazing? Was it not amazing?

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Speaker 2: And I think I learned how to say her name? Yeah, not didn't.

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Speaker 1: It's Suh, Sisa, Sissa says, I love you, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I just couldn't say it.

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Speaker 1: The best part though, you know, we should have been better prepared, Like we knew some of the musical guests. We grew up with Cher and green Day. But when they looked at us and asked us what we were wearing, Susan and I looked at each other and we fringe fringe because we both had fringe on our dresses. We had no idea what we were wearing.

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Speaker 3: We just can't get it out of our heads. We really had a good time and can't wait to do it again.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about Rachel. She was awesome, unbelievable. I mean, that girl is beautiful, the relationship with her family.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, well spoken, and she was homeschooled and that was quite interesting, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, and I was in education. I really wanted to dig into that one.

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Speaker 2: Somehere traveling nurse going.

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Speaker 1: On, and she is ready to find love, absolutely sure. And everybody out there that loves Rachel let her know. She put up with a lot of bad, mean people. Nice just be nice, kind and those and if you're a nice guy out there, reach out to Rachel because she absolutely deserves it. But today, yay Susan. We have some really great fan questions. I can't even wait to get into them. And I want to remind everyone if you have questions for Susan and me, send them in. Go to Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, send us your comments, your thoughts, your questions. We are not short of answers.

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Speaker 3: Yes, please do it. But first let's get started with today's question of the day.

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Speaker 1: What's one thing you're grateful for in your romantic life right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't really have a romantic life, but I am grateful to be open and ready for one.

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Speaker 1: I got to say, you and I are going to agree on that one. When I read that, I thought, I'm grateful. I'm grateful. I'm standing up straight and breathing because I sure don't have a romantic life right now? What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Should we read the questions from We've finally got some of them.

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Speaker 1: So are you so excited about the fan questions? All? Right? Here we go? Courtney from California wrote this, Hi, Kathy and Susan, good start. My mom and I have Oh this one, I have to say, Okay, this hits home with me. Okay, my mom and I have struggled to have a good relationship for as long as I can remember. We are very different and she is extremely critical of me and my choices in life. I am thirty years old and will be getting married in October. My fiance and I made the decision together not to invite her. The only time she met him, she was rude and very dismissive of him. My mom and I haven't spoken in over a year, and I feel like she will bring a needed drama to our happy day. However, now I'm having some second thoughts. Do you think I will regret not having her there?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I don't want to ruin her day, but it is.

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Speaker 1: Her, it's her mother. And I started out by saying that you know that this had hoped close to home because you know my daughter and I when she was in high school, it was tough. Now that she's had a baby, I'm a genius, but they realize exactly, but this is a little bit different. I think that daughters and moms go through tough times. But I have to say, Courtney, I think you would really regret it.

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Speaker 3: Well, some in some cases it's not just a matter of mom being critical in her have an attitude or whatever. There's some really serious mistakes that parents make with their children. Well, we don't know the depth of this one. And if it's just something superficial that she gets on your nerves and she's going to say I wouldn't have chosen that, then yes, I think may regret.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's an idea, what Courtney, how about if you sit down and we don't know we only know the details here, right, but Courtney, I would suggest that you sit down with your mom and really have a heart to heart with her. You don't always have to agree, but you know, you could sort of talk about your expectations, yours and your fiance's expectations for the day and what would be acceptable to you and maybe give her the option.

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Speaker 2: Is her wedding.

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Speaker 3: She wants to be happy on that day, and I agree with you, I do sit down and have that. Or they haven't spoken in over a year, that's that's not.

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Speaker 1: But maybe this marriage, Susan, maybe this wedding we'll bring them back together.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I wish you luck with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we wish you. And by the way, congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Oh and I can marry you in October.

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Speaker 1: Just call me always plugging. And by the way, she married my son and his fiance and did a great job. So if you need a wedding efficient, you should reach out.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny when I look back at my mom, I mean, yeah, I hated things that she would tell me I couldn't do or shouldn't do, or shouldn't wear. But our relationship was great. So for me, it's really hard to give her advice for that.

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Speaker 1: I guess for me that's a no reason. It hits close to home. You know, my parents were divorced when I was young, and I really wasn't that close to my mother. I can honestly say I would go a year at a time without speaking to her. My dad married when I was six years old, married the most wonderful woman who I sort of considered my mother. And so I understand mother by mother by birth. It's not always the person you think of as that mom person in your life.

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Speaker 2: Did your birth mother come to your wedding?

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Speaker 1: Cam, Okay, this is a true story. This is what I love about Susan. She reads my mind. At my wedding, my father and my stepmom, who I considered my mother who passed away in September, but great woman. She acted as my mother. The wedding invitations read mister and missus Richard m. Block. They did not have my mother's name at my wedding. My mother also could be very do some bizarre things, and I also was very worried at my wedding. My mother did come up to me at the reception and asked me if I was going to wear my wedding dress again, and since my mother was married four times, I chuckled at that and I said, I certainly hope not, Mom, I hope this is one done at your wedding. She said, are you going to wear that again? Well, that's not the punchline. When I said no, she reached down and ripped a piece of laceoft to take home as a souvenir. Oh my, so I get it, Courtney.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe don't invite her. Courtney, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, have the conversation first and then make your best bet.

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Speaker 2: So there's all kinds of moms out there.

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Speaker 3: There are, yep, grateful, and maybe some of them do the best that they can.

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Speaker 2: You know they don't.

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Speaker 1: But Courtney, I did invite her. I did invite her, and I will admit I was a little bit nervous. But other than with a torn.

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Speaker 2: Dress, Courtney, she ripped her dress.

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Speaker 1: But Susan, yeah, I was married almost forty six years ago, so I mean forty six years of that one mad, So I didn't need it again. All right, let's move on to question number two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what this says.

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Speaker 3: Anonymous from Texas says, I'm currently a junior in college and I have a huge crush on a guy that I met in class. We met at the beginning of the year and since then we always sit next to each other and make jokes throughout all of the lectures.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's.

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Speaker 1: Called thirty that the professor loves them.

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Speaker 3: He currently has a girlfriend out, though he shared with me that they have a lot of relationship problems and they fight a lot. He's been wanting to break up with her, but he says that he just hasn't found the right moment. He told me that his girlfriend will be out of town next weekend, and he invited me to go over to his place to hang out, just the two of us.

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Speaker 2: What should I do? He's so hot?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what he's said. He's he's hot and he's a cheater. Yeah, no, shit, run do not. I hate saying this. I'm from Texas, but anonymous from Texas. I don't care how good he looks in jeans. I don't care how good a cowboy hat he has. I don't care. Cheater.

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Speaker 3: You know what he's telling you, he has relationship problems because he's trying to win you over. You know, who knows if that's the truth. And it's like dating a married man, They're always going.

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Speaker 1: To wait, have you dated a marri No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, But I hear it all the time.

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Speaker 3: You know one person that I met in the mansion sharing that she was the mistress, you know, and they fell in love him. They were together twenty some years. But I don't know that I could do that.

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Speaker 1: I think I think I couldn't do it. First of all, I think I think you're setting up a bad precedent when you go over to his house. If he really wanted a friend, he would have invited you out for coffee to chit chat. But the fact that he invited you to go over to his place by the way while his girlfriend is out of town, it's just.

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Speaker 2: And when she comes back, you're the one that's a secret.

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Speaker 3: Like when we were talking to Rachel about open what they do today, the feral relationships, Yeah, it's like crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I would say this does not smell right. And here's my advice to you. When a man shows you who they are the first time, believe them. So I would say he may look hot, but he's freezing cold when it comes to relationship success.

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Speaker 2: And don't do something that you're gonna regret.

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Speaker 1: Your lead in short, in short, say no, run, do not walk to the nearest exit. All right, Kathy, So we move on to there let's go Anonymous. Come on, people, that's okay. You don't have to say your name. That's friendly. It's still a good question. Anonymous from Florida send us this. Hi, Susan and Cathy. Thanks for all that you do. I really love your podcast. Well, thank you so much. Anonymous from Florida. I'm not comfortable including my real name for this. I hope you understand.

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Speaker 2: Not a problem, not a problem.

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Speaker 1: I am a fifty two year old woman and I've been married for twenty eight years. My husband and I have two sons, ages twenty five and twenty two. I know it sounds crazy, but recently I have been thinking of nothing except my desire to have another baby. My husband had a assectomy twenty years ago and we never discussed having more children. But I just have this deep feeling or belief that we are meant to have another child. I don't even know if it's possible, but I know I'll never forgive myself if we don't try. Have no idea how to broach this subject with my husband. This will be the last thing he'd expect to hear from me. Do you have any suggestions on how to bring this up?

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Speaker 3: I'm still in shock that at fifty two you want to have another child. I mean, I love that you love your babies, and I'm what you know what I think you're Okay, just think when the baby's twenty.

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Speaker 1: Oh, here you go with the ages again. Age, it's just a number, seas and remember it is.

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Speaker 2: But being seventy two.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I think this is about.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe your children a twenty five and twenty two, you're going to get a grandchild soon.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's still not what I think.

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Speaker 3: You know, whenever boils down to hol one second, just communicate, communicate, talk to him because he might fly off the handle, or or he might say, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Miracles do happen? Go Kathy, No, I'm not. I'm you and I are on opposite sides of the patriot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think there's something going on in your marriage, something that is making her feel incomplete and unf filled. And what do we as women do? We You know, we were caretakers. We love our children. Her sons are twenty five and twenty two. They've probably recently, you know, moved out of the house. She's probably feeling something's missing in her relationship. And what does she want to do bring another human being in? Because what do children do? They love us.

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Speaker 3: Unconditionally and then they leave and then they leave us. So so maybe this is a matter of empty nests.

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Speaker 1: And I think she's I mean again, we only know what we read in the question here. But when you ask if we have any suggestions on how to bring it up, I think I would do a little soul searching first.

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Speaker 2: What's really going on?

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Speaker 1: What's really going on?

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Speaker 3: When you first said I thought you were saying they're struggling in their relationships.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they are.

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Speaker 2: I don't know now I didn't read that part at all.

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Speaker 1: She may not know it. That's what I'm saying. There may there may be something else going on. But I agree with these susan communica communicate, communicate, So.

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Speaker 3: What about you know we needed for so many years and then when they start to get on there and you're not needed as much. Although my kids still call me for something, but that love that but it is It's true. You need it for everything. And as they grow little by little they're doing things on their own. They don't need us as much, well, except to do their laundry and pay right.

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Speaker 2: For the thing I will say.

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Speaker 1: I will say I we each have three children, we each have two sons and one daughter. We have a lot of similarities there. I will say when my when my youngest child turned seven, I thought, oh am I done being a mom? Being a seven When my daughter was seven, I was like, oh, I want another baby. I thought it for about, you know, ten minutes, and I really saying goodbye to having young children.

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Speaker 2: It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, and I think I think it's also the evolution of a marriage.

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Speaker 3: So I look at my daughter. Okay, she's got a he'll be thirteen. My Julian will be thirteen. Isabella's going to be twelve, and she has a three year old, and she's adored, she's loved, she's spoiled, rotten because of the age difference. And I look at Brittany now some days and she's like, mom, I'm so tired her mom. And she's thirty eight years old. She's still young. That's why you have children young thirty.

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Speaker 1: Eight anonymous in Florida. She's thirty eight, not fifty two.

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Speaker 3: To thirty two is gonna weare And my very good girlfriend, Nicole, I hope you don't mind me saying your name.

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Speaker 2: It's a shock.

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Speaker 3: She's pregnant and she's forty two and she's freaking out over it. But her kids are like this age twenty five and twenty two and she's doing it, so it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think motherhood looks different. Don't you think looks different at different ages. It does, and so fifty two it would certainly look a lot different than it would at thirty two.

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't think personally I could do it at fifty two. At fifty two, to me, I'm done with the every day mommy. You know, they don't need me as bad. They're grown up. And now I'm starting to have a life again because we give up our personal lives, that's right. I still maintain my hair career and stuff raising children, and it was a lot and we had a lot more energy then.

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Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, can I just say, anonymous from Florida, I want you to think about this if you have another child. I want you to think about the diapers. I want you to think about the cost of formula, and the college and college and tap lessons in ballet and carpool, and I want you to think about all those things, and then think about getting your nails done, find that really beautiful dress that you saw in the store last week that you really.

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Speaker 2: Want, family vacations that you treat the boys.

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Speaker 1: Give it up. You're going to be changing diapers. You're not get your hair done or your nails. I'm making I'm joking sort of.

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Speaker 3: No, but really think about yourself for a minute. Put you first now and just wait for your grandchildren to.

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Speaker 1: Come and and if there's something going on your marriage, try to rebuild that, try to rebuild that.

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Speaker 2: Right hop there isn't.

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Speaker 3: I really hope I didn't read that when you got that. Well, if that's the case, you know what. We're here for you. And if you have another question, please we want.

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Speaker 2: To hear it.

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Speaker 1: And either either way, either way, whatever you decide, communicate with your husband, talk about it, and the right, the right decision.

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Speaker 3: Will come to you absolutely. So, as I said, we want to hear your question. So please write in and just go to bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour. You may even be featured on one of our podcasts, especially if you leave like a voice message, we could air that and we.

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Speaker 1: We we really do want to hear from you. We love getting these questions. All right, okay, Susan, we have time for one more question. Alrighty ready, all right, Amy asks. Hi ladies. Loved the first few episodes and am so excited to listen weekly. I'm in my late forties, and my question is about hair color. Oh boy, this one's gonna be for you since Okay, you both look gorgeous as brunettes, But what's your secret. My aunt wears wigs, that's her trick. I have always been a brunette. Started clearing my hair about ten years ago when grays arrived, and in the past two years I started transitioning to blonde because the maintenance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, roots are a pain in the you know what, and you know what, that's how we make money. But through the pandemic, I noticed a lot of people they were afraid to color their own hair, which I do not recommend color your own hair.

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Speaker 1: I've done it. And second, that.

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Speaker 3: Vote just sends up a mess after about six times.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 3: So with that being said, my sister right now, she had to have surgery on her neck.

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Speaker 2: They shaved the back of her head.

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Speaker 3: She has maybe ninety eighty to ninety percent gray and I've havn her a brunette for years, so we kind of like the new gray thing. And she's like, how do I do this? I can't have three inches of white hair and four inches of dark hair. And that's exactly what I did. I started foiling her, putting highlights, putting blonde. She gets more compliments. But here's what I am going to say. Once the hair that is dark is removed and cut off eventually and it's only blonde and gray, it's a whole different look right now. My sister loves the little bit of dark pieces left in there, and there's a solution for that as well. When I foil her, I'll add some dark pieces and some blonde pieces, but she doesn't need the five week touch up for the grades.

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Speaker 1: Does that help, Amy, I'm not a hairdresser. All I can say is I have been coloring my hair since I was about thirty nine, and I don't want to be gray. Here's here's the issue that all women eventually come to. Because my hair is dark brunette. Thank you, Susan. By the way, this is the time for me to say, Susan cut my hair this length.

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Speaker 3: So Kathy, when I met her, she had highlights. It was pretty, it was a little longer, and I just had a vision what I thought would look best on Kathy's face. She's got perfect che cheekbones and they're real. By the way, no checks shorten her length to make it really super stick straight, and no darker.

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Speaker 1: And she has gotten so many compliments and so and I love it, and I think, but that's where I was going to go with this. If you're comfortable, if you want to go gray or blonde or striped, whatever your comfortable want, do you. But Susan is absolutely right, don't do it yourself. I mean, just don't. In my case, my hair is very dark at brunette. I was a brunette as a child, and actually my hair is very close to the color it is now as a child.

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Speaker 2: You don't say I had a vision.

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Speaker 1: Susan had a visions. Saint Susan had a vision.

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Speaker 2: Well guess what. Thank you so much for writing in.

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Speaker 3: I'll answer any of your questions of both of us, will whether they're relationships, hair related, or chicken plants.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if their hair related, Susan's going to answer them. If chicken plants, I can't answer them because I haven't had them. I can't, but listen, before we go, I think we need to play a game, because we love playing games. So we're going to play another round of would you rather? Are you in, Susan, I'm in, all right, I'm going to read them and then we'll both pick which one we'd rather. Got it? Okay, doki, okay, all right, Susan. Would you rather date a man who has twelve children or a man who doesn't have any children? I'm sorry?

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Speaker 2: Can I pass on that one, Susan?

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Speaker 1: Twelve kids, Susan, The answer is no, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We'd never have alone time. We'd always be visiting somebody between his and mine. No, that's a lot. Although I forget who our guest was with men with no children? Is it a red flag?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 1: I said no, I don't think. Listen, I'll date a man who doesn't have children. I won't date a man who hasn't been married. I did that once.

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Speaker 2: It did not work. All right?

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Speaker 1: Would you rather show affection in public or private?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I'm all about I like you. I'll hold your hand, i'll kiss you, I hug you. I'm not going to get nasty or anything.

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Speaker 1: It would okay, but isn't the affection I think for me, the affection in public is a little looks a little. Yeah it does.

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Speaker 2: President when you're home, I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather give up cursing forever or give up ice cream forever?

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Speaker 2: I would give up ice cream.

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Speaker 1: Oh, for me, I don't like ice cream. It's a no brainer. I've given it up.

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Speaker 2: Look at that. Gods, they're on the same cage again, you know.

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Speaker 3: One time it was this year. This year was potato chips. Last year, two years in a row. I gave up same bad words for lent. And my deal was to myself, how it was actually the F bomb And I don't do it at you, but it's just in my vocabulary. With that being said, I promised myself every time I said the F word, I would put a dollar and I would donate it to the church.

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Speaker 2: One year it was fifty six.

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Speaker 1: Wait. Can I just tell you? Wait? Can I just tell you? If you and Sondra from The Golden Bachelor put a dollar, you could build a church. All right? How about this one? Would you rather be married to someone who is vegetarian or lactose intolerant?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so easy for me. For me, I guess it would be a meeting.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you're not giving up your burgers and cheese.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that i'd marry that guy now, Jesus, I'd figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Vegetarian for me. I love my veggies.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather your partner, oh, give you a massage or a love note?

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Speaker 1: What the hell is a love note? Give me the massage.

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Speaker 2: I want it all, Susan.

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Speaker 3: I want that hopeless romantic leave me little love notes that would just do it break.

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Speaker 1: You get the love No, don't get the massage. I want some of that.

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Speaker 2: I love to be rubbed. Yes, all right.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather wear sweatpants for the rest of your life or oh? Or wear sparkles on every outfit?

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Speaker 3: I'm really comfortable in sweatpants. I just have to say I don't need sparkles. I like playing dress up. Trust and believe me, that costs me the most in my life. All my money goes to fashion and shoes, spark goals on every overt not necessary.

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Speaker 1: Sweatpants are a must have. Yeah, but you're gonna wear sweatpants for the rest of your life?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna wear sparkles for the rest of my legs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Susan's walking around naked. Great, let's move on.

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Speaker 3: How about you, Missy talk to me. But no, you don't do sweatpants. You do those type things. Yeah, I don't do sweatpants. I do leggings.

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Speaker 2: I got to try them.

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Speaker 1: No, you know why I don't. I learned a long time ago. You wear what looks good on you. I have very long legs and they're thin. I'm wearing the leggings.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, all you sweatpants makers.

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Speaker 1: Send send me some samples.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. What's the soffice caddy. I've had some awesome I want.

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Speaker 1: I want the spanks leggings. They're the best.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, the soft great?

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Speaker 1: All right. Would you rather be invisible or be able to read someone's mind?

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Speaker 2: God? Oh I don't. I don't want to be invisible ever. Well no, we don't mean like Ken.

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Speaker 1: We don't mean like Casper the ghosts here, like invisible where you're sitting there watching what's going on? Oh, not be seen, so they wouldn't say it like I can't see you, but you're watching what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to read somebody's mind?

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to read my own mind most of the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't think i'd like reading somebody's mind. It would scare me. Can you read my mind? No, I'm thinking how lucky you are to be my friend. Okay, I wouldn't mind. I always used to phrase, I'd like to be a fly on the wall. That's the invisible part. I'd like to be invisible.

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Speaker 1: And the way you like bugs, you'll be squashing about ten susy, it'd be a fly, all right. Would you rather go on a beach vacation or explore a new city? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I want a little of both. Definitely.

00:26:49
Speaker 3: The beach comes firstst I like my toes in the sand, but I love seeing new place.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I totally have nothing dad to that.

00:26:56
Speaker 2: When I went to Paris, I thought, first time I went to Paris.

00:27:00
Speaker 1: Was a first test how many times you went to Paris.

00:27:03
Speaker 3: So the first time I went, it was beautiful, it was all city, and the one thing I said on the way home was I didn't get to relax. So the next time, when I took my daughter, actually we were in the south of France, I wish I could do a little bit of boats like you either start in the city and then go to the coast and chill and.

00:27:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, ah wait, I got to tell you my husband, when he was alive, we took our kids actually to Europe once and they were young teenagers, and literally he had a scheduled, like, you know, you had five minutes to see Notre Dame. Let's go nice to Yeah, now we're running up the Eiffel Tower. It was like I needed a vacation from that vacation.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: It's about being in the moment, you know. It's funny.

00:27:47
Speaker 3: My granddaughter, I promised her since the day she was born. And Bella, if you're out there listening to this, yes, Mimi is going to take you to Paris.

00:27:55
Speaker 1: Oh that'll be trip number four for those of you who are accounting.

00:27:58
Speaker 2: Listen.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: She said it to me this birthday, right, she became double digits. Now, Mimi, are we ever going? And I said, Bella, we are going, but I want you to write me a list of the things that you would like to experience and see in Paris. Oh I can answer that right now, I said, Okay, go I want to see the Eiffel Power.

00:28:19
Speaker 1: I said, well, you could do that in Vegas.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: I could do a lot cheaper I can do, and I want to go. Mimi, it's like the biggest mall in the world. I said, well, truly, not a mall.

00:28:30
Speaker 1: You cant do that. It was at Missouri, the mall of America. Forget it, forget it. You're not going like.

00:28:37
Speaker 3: City blogslog I said, what about Notre Dame. She goes that burned down? I go, not all the way and they've rebuilt it. To watch the news so much more so, I said, okay, honey, I'm going to start that envelope and I have it to this minute. I put money in it every week and it's Bella's trip to Paris. I said, probably by the time you're thirteen.

00:28:57
Speaker 1: She goes.

00:28:59
Speaker 2: Like that is so ever away and she's twelve eleven.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: You know that's youth that it's best right there.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: And then what do you do with the other grandchildren? You got to make special something.

00:29:08
Speaker 1: Wait, can I just tell you? Yeah, but I went to private school. I didn't think that went through. You put the first one in private school. You gotta do it all, yeah, rethink it.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: No, Okay, Oh, Cathy, let me ask you this one. Please. This is great. Guys, wait to hear this.

00:29:24
Speaker 3: Would you rather give up caffeine or alcohol forever?

00:29:30
Speaker 1: You know what, Susan, I'm going to answer that question as soon as I have a sip of coffee and pour some tequila. I would definitely give up alcohol. I need my caffeine. Yeah, absolutely, I Actually, I think you're gonna be surprised at my answer. What do you think? My answer? But I had to give up one?

00:29:47
Speaker 2: What do you think you do need your caffeine? I know?

00:29:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I could give up alcohol long for. I could give up caffeine. All right, would you listen, I'm just going to preface this last question here.

00:30:00
Speaker 2: I'm reading along with her. She had the balls here.

00:30:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Susan, I'm going to tell you right now, you may not say both. Okay, you may not. Would you rather get a foot rup or a shoulder massage from your partner?

00:30:15
Speaker 2: It's only if he's.

00:30:16
Speaker 3: Good at it, though She's foot rob is important, like the foot massage is.

00:30:23
Speaker 2: I stood on my feet for forty years.

00:30:25
Speaker 1: So you take a foot massage.

00:30:26
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

00:30:27
Speaker 1: I would take a shoulder massage.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: All right, Good day, good, that's great. I won't have to waste time.

00:30:32
Speaker 1: Excuse me, we're not having We're not sureing to say partner, so you know what, forget it.

00:30:37
Speaker 3: Okay, However, I don't want dms for all you crazy people out there.

00:30:44
Speaker 1: I'll take a DM from somebody who wants to give me a good shoulder massage because you have other fabulous traits.

00:30:50
Speaker 3: So I hope everybody's enjoying this as much as I am, because I just have a great time sitting here going back and forth.

00:30:56
Speaker 1: If anyone's any question, this friendship is real.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: If you can't tell by this, you can't make this shit up.

00:31:05
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00:31:16
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00:31:37
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, did you just say send them to Kathy?

00:31:40
Speaker 2: Yes?

00:31:41
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00:31:56
Speaker 2: We sure will ye

00:32:00
Speaker 1: And