2025-12-09- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 4: It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Tuesday, December the ninth time Matt Jones. You can give some show on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is seven seven two five two five four In this edition sponsored by the t J.

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Speaker 3: Smith Low Officer called TJ. He'll make them pay.

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Speaker 4: Kentucky plays the Powerhouse North Carolina Central tonight in rop Arena in a game that after the debacle in Nashville, hopefully the cat should have a little problem with You can just give a shout if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, Ryan Drew and Shannon are with me. Ryan, Uh, North Carolina Central one time. I think I've told the story a couple times on here about when I spoke about the death penalty at North Carolina Central many many years ago. Basically that's predominantly an all African American college, and I got up and spoke about it and proceeded to get peppered with questions for an hour and a half. And that's my one interaction with North Carolina Central and it was a positive one. Hopefully tonight will be positive with basketball as well.

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Speaker 5: I remember you telling that story. I had no idea it was North Carolina Central.

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Speaker 3: North Carolina Central. Yeah, we spoke.

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Speaker 4: I spoke at like four colleges around North Carolina and there was somebody that would speak with me at all of them, and then he skipped the one at North Carolina Central and that was the one. They invited their entire like freshman class too, So there were like two thousand students in the room and.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 4: It was good, but it was quite intimidating as you had to sit there and speak about a controversial issue right in front of a mass crowd.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Kentucky will have that many much problem tonight.

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Speaker 5: So they asked questions for that long? Were they like legit good questions?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was this is not how I thought we'd start to show, Drew, but it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was talking about.

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Speaker 4: How I was against the death penalty, and I was talking about my client's case. There were two people who were going to be executed, the first two in North Carolina in like twenty five years, and I was expressing talking about their cases, and then while I was against the death penalty, and then they just were asking questions, most of which Drew were like hypotheticals of the same thing. They'd be like, so this wasn't long after nine to eleven. They'd be like, if somebody did nine to eleven, should they get the death penalty? And it would just be increasing difficult, like increasingly worse things than I'd have to go, well, I'm still against a death penalty then too, And they just asked me kind of the same thing over and over.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know you had this big connection to our big opponent tonight. I remember that story but never replaced. That was in C Central.

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Speaker 4: It's on ut schedule line of Central, so that's I haven't thought about that school since then. But they'll come in tonight, and Ryan, I think the Cats, I mean, I don't know. There's really nothing they can do tonight that's gonna change anything going forward.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree?

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Speaker 4: I guess it's Saturday will be their next chance to do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's absolutely not one thing I think they can do tonight to improve the attitude of Big Blue Nation Saturday.

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Speaker 4: What if they come out like, don't miss a three drew, they hit like twenty five in a row, would that help?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: Actually, I wrote a blog post of what they need to do tonight and it actually doesn't even involve a basketball. I think fans just want to see them act like they like each other, Like go out there, have fun, celebrate your teammate, help them up off the floor if God forbid, they dive on the floor, but just owe some togetherness. I think that will because they need to hit a reset, like after last Friday, there needs to be a full reset. Maybe just have some fun tonight and we'll go from there with Indiana on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: See what's the best way for them to act like they like each other, like walk out hand in hands.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want to see them like hugging each other like you.

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Speaker 3: Know, congo line. The thing, man, is this a nursing hall.

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Speaker 5: Where they're recreate the football picture?

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Speaker 7: You hold hands and jump up and kick your legs up in the.

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Speaker 4: Work for the football team either though, that's what we need together in the picture.

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Speaker 3: We took a little groof for that picture.

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Speaker 4: I think wondering about that picture was probably still uh still fair. So yesterday it seemed to me the conversation around Kentucky, uh, Kentucky world has been really two things. One the question of is it acceptable to boo, which we talked about a lot about yesterday, And it seems like most fans almost right.

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Speaker 3: If you had told me ten.

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Speaker 4: Years ago that this fan base would be in a place where I would see even little old ladies saying yes you can boo, I would have been shocked. But it seems like most of the fans believe that's okay. We put we put a video up yesterday on social media Mario did of our discussion, and surprisingly little pushback from.

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Speaker 3: People about it.

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Speaker 4: I think the new age of college sports, which I think has a lot of positives. Also though, has led to a viewpoint of fans with a professionalism of Okay, that's what it is. So now, like the guy who called Shannon and Billy show, it's like if I fired my gardener, although I didn't realize he would go around and boo his gardener, would I think, right, that's just how it is now. Is that that's part of the trade off of guys making money.

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Speaker 5: It is a different era, and now you're not necessarily a college student athlete. You're a professionally trained, professionally paid athlete now, and I think people would take that attitude. I never thought I would ever see it that Kentucky fans would boo their own team the way they did in Nashville the other night.

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Speaker 7: But I think that's the age we live in.

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Speaker 3: But you took the view of the like you're becoming mister.

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Speaker 4: Old school. You're like, we shouldn't boo. But you kind of got shouted down yesterday. Did you find a lot of people after the show that agreed with you on that?

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Speaker 8: Very few?

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Speaker 7: I mean I got some very few, Okay, all right?

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Speaker 5: And like I said the other day, I understand while they were booing. I just wouldn't do it myself. I just think it's a it's a that's a bad look.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 4: During the next part of the conversation, then went to what is the cause of the problem. And on this point, I don't think we're talking about the basketball cause.

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Speaker 3: Because I think there's a lot of basketball courses.

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Speaker 4: But people then go to what's the cause of the of the team either not caring or not liking each other? And there are two things that come up the most. The first one is people want to point to some event, and I mean, if you've been around this fan base at all, everyone has I think I've said I've been sent over a thousand times.

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Speaker 3: All right, Matt, don't get put this on me.

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Speaker 4: But my friend is related to and rubber butt, and they all tell some version of, if not the same story, some version of a story that I just have to tell you. From my perspective, I think is likely not the case. I think any time a story gets that far out, it's likely not the case. But there is this desire to find an event that caused it. Do you think Drew, that there is an event or a something that caused it? Whether it be in the Louisville locker room or something before that, or do you think it could just be you know, sometimes people just don't get along and sometimes people just don't like each other.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is the more likely scenario.

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Speaker 6: I still struggle with this because if it was one event, and we've heard plenty of room, that should only affect a few people, the whole team is playing bad, like not to just rag on everyone, but I feel like some of these rumors we've heard, Okay, why does that keep Brandon Garrison from jumping for a rebound? Or why does they keep Trenton Noah from making a three?

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Speaker 8: So that's why.

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Speaker 6: Sure, maybe something happened, but that still doesn't explain why the whole team looks bad to me, because if it is a one off, you know, teammate versus teammate on something that shouldn't affect everybody, and if it does, then Pope needs to do a better job of getting that out of the locker room and getting everybody on the same page. So I'm still perplexed of how the whole team is so bad if it was one uh one thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, there there's always been over the years and sometimes in the Cal years this was me, and sometimes it was Kyle Tucker. And then sometimes it would be like with Cal, it might be like Mike the Corsi or whatever. There's always somebody who when they say something, you kind of know, okay, this is the message that the staff wants to get out right. I don't think Pope has that guy, meaning like, there's nobody that talks that.

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Speaker 3: I say for sure that came from Mark Pope.

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Speaker 4: Probably the closest one is is Matt Norlander and probably Jeff Goodman, although even then I don't think it comes from Pope. I think it comes from assistance. I don't really think Pope talks to anybody. So because of that, I keep waiting to see from Jeff Goodman or Matt Norland or the signal of what's really going on, and then nothing comes out right, which makes me even more confused, because it does seem like.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just that the coaches are perplexed.

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Speaker 4: And they have no idea why this is happening, which is right in some ways, even worse than if we had an explanation.

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Speaker 5: I am doing the both that something happened before that Louisville game, because you know Pope is honest to a fault. I don't think he would have even said that if it's something something didn't happen on.

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Speaker 3: The you know, but he's trying to play that down. You don't think that that matters.

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Speaker 7: No, I think something happened.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I guess I don't know what it was.

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Speaker 4: When you think something happened, because it's like logical deduction, or do you like, is there a little Ryan Lemon's scoopyess?

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, scoop. I I'm basing at all on what I feel about Mark Pope. I don't think he would have said that if something didn't happen. So what if it's a combination of the of both. Maybe something did happen, and it's maybe something that some of these guys just don't like each other.

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Speaker 4: It did look to me though, Okay, so the little bit I was around the team, which included some of those preseason practices, in media day and even some of the preseason events drew I will say it looked to me like they got along then, So I mean, you know, I don't know, And maybe when adversity hit something, we will always wonder what happened in that locker room. And I think if you were going to point to a singular event, I think that would be when it made the most sense.

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Speaker 3: But now you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's been a month, like it really has, Like if it truly was like a teammate on teammate thing figured it out. It's been a month calling in your office, throw the boxing gloves down and say, y'all work it out. We got bigger goals than whatever you all have going on. It has been a month since that locker room, and it's just getting worse. If something like that happened, it should linger a little while, get it out of their system, and then let's go win some basketball games.

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Speaker 8: That's why you're here.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen y we've.

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Speaker 4: Seen Ryan lose it before, right, Yeah, he gets that and then he gets he's sometimes fine later that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he holds a grudge against people too though, yeh, But.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't hold a grudge against us. He holds a grudge against like two.

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Speaker 2: People, right, Well, maybe that's the two people that.

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Speaker 4: Makes it Ryan where you can't get over that, because that has to be what this team is like.

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Speaker 3: They're holding the grudge, they can't get over.

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Speaker 5: Being disloyal, lying to my face that that that'll get you on my black list.

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Speaker 2: Well he really, he always ring lifetime ban is a.

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Speaker 3: Lifetime ban, all right.

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Speaker 4: So then the second thing that people say is, Okay, the problem is all these guys are.

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Speaker 3: Making money and so they don't care anymore.

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Speaker 4: Willie Cauley Stein Drew, of all people, of all people, put out a post almost suggesting that this morning, saying, well, now all these guys got cars and stuff, and so they don't care as much. I find that funny considering really calling time's time here? Would you agree with the hat Drew that that's at least amusing coming from him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, trying to be careful.

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Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you gotta be careing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I will say the cars have even improved since the Caliperi.

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Speaker 3: Cars have proved.

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Speaker 6: The carved Now it's even Maseratis. I think back then it was just like a BMW. Now it's Maseratis.

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Speaker 4: But they weren't driving around Pinto's back then.

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Speaker 3: It's just the way they were still driving good cars.

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Speaker 4: But that doesn't explain, though, Drew, these other teams that are making money and doing well, Like, if you want to say it's cause of the money.

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Speaker 3: Then you have to explain to me why these other teams do well.

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Speaker 4: More specifically, if you want to say it's because of the money, how do you explain when these dudes in the NBA, you know, throw their bodies on the line, Like, it cannot be that it is just the money. Now, some people don't react well to money, but some people were selfish when they were getting nothing, Like human nature can be selfish. So I personally do not blame the money because there are others. I mean, Michigan's getting paid more than anybody and they're playing great. I don't think it's the money, Drew. I think it's the people, not the money. Do you disagree.

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Speaker 6: I'm with you on that because there's schools that have had some high paying athletes who are doing exactly what they're paid to do. And also it like if you got money, and like, oh, if I play well, I get money, that would get you want to play more to get more money. Like I look at the way and people say, oh, his mind's on the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm watching him lose money by the second every time he gets on the basketball court, because if I must say, yeah, if I'm watching him pout and give no effort, I'm not drafting. So if money was the motivation, I would almost think they'd be they'd be selfish, but they'd at least be playing hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean might look shan.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a philosopher that said, MO, money, MO problem right if you but if you have it, you're gonna keep trying. I just Ryan, I don't believe the money thing at all, because I'll give you I use example of Michigan. Let's use Texas Tech. Okay, Texas Tech threw massive amounts of money in their football and basketball program. They have that booster who does all those stupid score Act commercials, and he's put all this money into Texas Tech. And guess what, they're number four in the football playoff rankings and they're in the top ten in basketball. Why he went out and got dudes with money and they wouldn't played hard. So that clearly worked for him. It's not working here, and so I don't blame the money. I blame us, our guys, our coaches.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if the money has is a factory. If whatever happened and for the little games of factor. It all comes down to that roster construction.

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Speaker 7: Who you have on the.

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Speaker 5: Floor, and you're your your returning guy, You're two big guys you were counting on. Garrison and Otega have have done nothing really to help you much.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's they're supposed to be your leaders, your stars, your starters. But then you know you heard Pope last night, He's coaching show. Oh take it just had the best practice he's had in two years this week.

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Speaker 4: I have to say the room, the relentless positivity is like would be like listening Shannon to ted Lasso after a seven game losing streak. Like I love ted Lasso, but sometimes I need you to like not tell me things are positive.

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Speaker 2: No, not everything in life is beautiful. Sometimes there's some ugly in there, and and we saw that, we've seen it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Io the Coin show last night, what'd you say? I booed the call in show last night, ed Kevin Greevy.

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Speaker 8: Stories.

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Speaker 4: When they start doing that, when they start bringing on players and doing thirty minute interviews instead of taking calls, you've already given it away right there where we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the good ol days only actually, let's talk.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I like Kevin Greevy, but when you bring on Kevin Greevy right after a thirty five point loss, you are saying that you don't want to talk about it, and that's the worst way to do it with fans. I'm just telling you they've never learned this lesson, going back to Tubby Smith when he was broad on Jeff Shephard right before he left. Like, you can't do it like that, they still do it. They always make them the same mistake and nobody ever learns a f nine two eighth twenty two eighty seven. We'll take a break, be right back. This is Kentucky Sports Radio speaking to somebody who ended up with MO problems, Channon after their MO money, the singer of this singer of this song.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right, Yeah, it didn't work out too well.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever watched that documentary yet? I hear it's good.

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Speaker 6: I'm all the way through it already done, went straight to it and beinged it. Oh. We used to have rap song disses. They've just dissed each other with music. Now we have full blown documentaries dissing each other. I love it made this one bought the footage from Diddy's people and then use it against.

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Speaker 4: Say, know that fifty bought the footage from Oh I didn't know that company.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, fifty swooped in and did it.

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Speaker 6: So it's kind of like a disk documentary on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Is it on Netflix? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: It's not a great look for not that any of this has been a great look for Diddy, but somehow it gets much worse for him with this documentary.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 4: All right, well, one person, So I've compiled Ryan just a partial list of the various people who people have texted the text machine and said they told them the story of what's actually going on.

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Speaker 3: All right, So these are people.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say what they said, Chandon, but these are people who people have said have told them what's really happened.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it, don't believe any of it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: But let's the question is which of these people do you think has the best chance of knowing? Okay, this is just in the last twenty four hours. Kenny Walker, do you think he would know.

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Speaker 8: He is everywhere?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: All right, Jackson Robinson, do you think he would know?

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Speaker 7: I won't say, no, Where's caraving around? Is he right now?

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Speaker 3: Is he Linda Gordon's top aid?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Drew's a big Linda Gordon fan.

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Speaker 3: You think Linda Gordon's top aid would know.

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Speaker 8: She's the top aids, the leader in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 4: So far of what you've said, all right, Robert Stivers, stud the state Senator. And then finally my favorite, this one just came this morning. Steve Bachman of Backman Chevrolet.

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Speaker 5: Not a sponsor. Now you said Paul Miller or Paul Miller four Now he would be man, we had to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: These are just the people who people have written the text machine to say they know what's going on with the players. I'm going to say, of all those, I'm gonna say Steve Bachman and.

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Speaker 2: Bought Yeah, more so than Kenny Walker.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when it says it went well, Kenny's not like he's not in practice, I mean, well, we don't.

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Speaker 2: Think the guy's like taking a break from selling cars to go watch the practice and get in the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I didn't even have Linda Gordon's top aids name, So how am I supposed to believe that they know?

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Speaker 8: Maybe they're operating the shadows.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the bagman guys selling them cars or something. I don't know. Maybe maybe even you're onto something here.

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Speaker 6: Jackson Robinson's still around a lot. He has former teammates that are on the team.

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Speaker 4: I thought Jackson Robinson would have seemed like, you know, he would know that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: There's right. Wouldn't Jackson Robinson know Ryan because he was on the team.

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Speaker 6: And not just the current players that are back. You know, they have forty grad assistants and managers over there.

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Speaker 8: He probably could still talk to.

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Speaker 3: Where is Jackson Robinson now? Is he in the G League somewhere?

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Speaker 8: Not sure he was in the Cavs system. I don't know if he's still a part of it.

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Speaker 3: I think I haven't heard about him in long time. All right.

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Speaker 4: We also got yesterday Ryan the contract for will Side YEP five point five million dollars for five years. Basically, it's five point five and five point six and five point seven, so it ended up averaging about five point seven between five point seven and five point eight for his career. If he gets fired during that time, he gets seventy percent of the contract paid out in the time frame.

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Speaker 3: It would be paid.

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Speaker 4: So we didn't make the mistake of doing the lump sum due within sixty days. This has kind of become the base pay ryan for new coaches with no experience. I think a lot of these other guys, he'll be now one of the lower paid coaches in the SEC, but it's kind of commiserate with his experience. Seems like to me a pretty good deal. The seventy percent is kind of standard now across college football, so less than the total, but still a significant amount of money. What did you think of the will Stein deal?

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Speaker 5: Well, hear and you say, that's kind of standard. I had no idea if that was a seventy percent, if that was a kind of the standard buyout.

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Speaker 4: In big schools. That's become kind of the standard of the big schools. If you don't have any leverage now when you when you re sign they end up taking that out. But for new coaches, that's kind of become standard.

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Speaker 5: So hearing all that, I absolutely having zero problem with it. You know, Kentucky got a basketball coach and a football coach at a much cheaper rate than they had the previous two guys, So saving some money, I guess all the way around.

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Speaker 6: Drew, Yeah, I immediately just went to the buyout situation making sure we didn't get got again paid out monthly. That's much better than sixty days. Stein actually owes a lot, as you said, if he if he were to leave, So that was the thing I went to first. Also noticed that the the extension, you know, his incentives. He's got to make the playoff, not just make a bowl game as you know with stud win six games or seven games. Stein's is and get to the playoff bracket.

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Speaker 4: He gets a big bonus, but it starts with the playoff, so it's not just about making a bawl. Now, the second part of that is Mark stoops. Mark stoops, it turns out extended his deal, so rather than have to pay it immediately, they paid him four million dollars immediately immediately, and they will pay him over the next four years one point seven million dollars every three months.

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Speaker 3: Shannon to not coach for the next four years.

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Speaker 2: That's a great deal. But it's also nice of him to do what he did for Kentucky because he couldn't tut you know, all that money. Think about the interest he could have made if he had all that money up front versus spreading out one.

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Speaker 4: Point seven million dollars every three months for the next four years at totals the thirty seven million. But as Shannon points out, he didn't have to do that. He could have demanded it immediately, and instead he spread it out like that.

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Speaker 3: So they gave him four.

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Speaker 4: Million dollars a day he did it, and then one point seven every three months going forward. It's a lot of money. It's especially a lot of money not to coach. But at the same time, he didn't have to do that. Nope, and oddly they will now end up paying him like that one point seven. It will make it to where financially it's not that bad for Kentucky and Stoops didn't have to do that.

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Speaker 3: We'll take your calls right after this KSR. TJ.

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Speaker 8: Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ.

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Speaker 2: He'll make them pay now. More of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: So, Shannon, guys, I need to just before we go to calls, one little nerve wracking thing. All right, during the break, I just got a text message from I got at ESPN okay, and it says, Matt, do you want to meet this afternoon to talk about the New Orleans Bowl. So, by the way, I am doing the ESPN radio broadcast ride for the New Orleans Bowl, which is today.

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Speaker 3: Yep, two weeks from today.

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Speaker 4: And apparently I'm doing the play by play, which is I've never done the play by play, so I mean, of course, Drew. Perfect time to debut is on national radio right to heavy postseason. When's the best time to learn to do live play by play?

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Speaker 3: Then national radio with a bowl game.

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Speaker 5: Perfect time with somewhat of a local team playing. That'll all be listening to my Sunday morning radio boss.

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Speaker 4: Say to me the other day, Shannon excited to listen to you do the New Orleans bo.

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Speaker 3: Don't know how that's gonna go. That's exactly what he said.

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Speaker 2: He does realize you have never done this before, so I would exc's gonna go. The bar is probably pretty low.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's got but let me just say, you know, play by play is a whole other thing.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy.

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Speaker 3: And so the game gets announced.

00:24:54
Speaker 4: It's Western Kentucky and Southern miss I think Ryan pretty good draw for me, right, Western Kentucky.

00:25:00
Speaker 7: Couldn't have been any better for you, really to get.

00:25:02
Speaker 4: Honestly, couldn't have been any better Southern Miss. As a side note, one of the guys in my fellowship is one of Southern Miss's biggest boosters. Oh, so I feel like I can get some information on Southern Miss and then Western's Western. So he writes me during the break and he goes, I'm so and so I'm your producer for ESPN for the.

00:25:20
Speaker 3: New Orleans Bowl.

00:25:21
Speaker 4: Do you know who your stats and spotter are yet? I don't know what that means. I've been wondering. I've been wondering why strangers have been writing me offering to be my spotter, because I was like, Shannon, how do these people know who I am?

00:25:39
Speaker 3: Why do they keep writing me? How do they even know? I need a.

00:25:42
Speaker 2: Spot to get somebody with binoculars who can see the game.

00:25:45
Speaker 4: Turns out of ESPN has a database where they say, hey, spotters, here's who where we need them for.

00:25:51
Speaker 3: So that's why people are writing me.

00:25:52
Speaker 8: I've been wondering, should they provide the spotter? You shouldn't, you're the terrible spotter.

00:25:59
Speaker 4: Okay, apparently I get to pick because I get to pick one i'm comfortable with.

00:26:03
Speaker 3: Here's the problem.

00:26:03
Speaker 4: I don't know any of these people, So how am I going to be comfortable with any of them?

00:26:09
Speaker 3: How do I pick?

00:26:09
Speaker 2: This is a problem.

00:26:11
Speaker 8: Who wants to be my spotterer? Like a contest?

00:26:13
Speaker 4: So I've already decided my stat's guy I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick Billy.

00:26:17
Speaker 3: Was he an option?

00:26:19
Speaker 2: I don't think Billy was the list of may on the list.

00:26:23
Speaker 4: But he's gonna be on the list because he went to Western, right, so he can handle.

00:26:27
Speaker 3: That big deal.

00:26:29
Speaker 4: Yes, and I'm comfortable with Billy. Billy knows how to work with me now after the last couple of years. But I don't think Billy can spot. So how do I pick Drew? Who to spot?

00:26:41
Speaker 6: I mean, you're just gonna have to to get some one on one, some FaceTime with these people, get to know them. Can we get about their families? You need to trust this person. They're gonna be in the fox with you.

00:26:50
Speaker 2: You don't now if you can get Billy, you can get Ryan as your spot.

00:26:52
Speaker 4: But I need I need at least one person in this operation to know what the hell they're doing.

00:26:58
Speaker 5: I would definitely get sidetracked cool watching something else than the game.

00:27:01
Speaker 2: But Ryan has done like high school football, games is ti.

00:27:04
Speaker 4: Rian Ryan is literally the worst choice for the exact reason he just said he would.

00:27:09
Speaker 6: A spotter has to see a number on a jersey immediately know who that is.

00:27:14
Speaker 4: Like, yes, exactly, they're in a you know, for eighty one wide, Like you gotta do all that and you know I don't know what any of that stuff means.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: Shammon. Yeah, so that person I will be relying heavily.

00:27:25
Speaker 2: Here's the great thing about doing radio. If you get it wrong, nobody can call it.

00:27:30
Speaker 3: So nobody's gonna know.

00:27:31
Speaker 2: You're gonna be.

00:27:32
Speaker 3: Fine, But the producers are gonna know.

00:27:34
Speaker 2: Well, they don't have to tell anybody.

00:27:36
Speaker 3: But this is like, this is two weeks from today.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: Are you practicing? What are you doing to get ready?

00:27:42
Speaker 4: I've practiced a little bit, but you know, I've I've had some stuff come up, so I've been a little distracted. Now I'm my plan is to watch, I asked. I asked an ESPN person, I'm gonna talk to Tom Hark this week.

00:27:56
Speaker 3: What are you laughing at?

00:27:57
Speaker 2: That might be a good start. Talk to somebody who does this for a living, Tom Hart, Tom Lee.

00:28:01
Speaker 4: And he said to me, Tom has written me about it too. I'm gonna get I'm gonna rely on the Toms. They said to me to watch like the last three or four games of these teams. So I'm gonna watch Western and Southern Miss what I've always wanted to do. Sure, just watch Western and Southern Miss football.

00:28:19
Speaker 3: Western. You know almost bet LSU a couple of weeks ago.

00:28:22
Speaker 2: There's a good place.

00:28:25
Speaker 4: That's the kind of fact I can say on the radio, shiite Western almost bet LSU a couple of weeks ago.

00:28:30
Speaker 2: Now you've got three more hours to fill.

00:28:35
Speaker 4: Now, what time Kentucky plays that day Kentucky plays Bellerman?

00:28:39
Speaker 3: I believe I've.

00:28:40
Speaker 4: Looked at the time, Ryan, I believe the postgame show will be ending right as this broadcast.

00:28:47
Speaker 3: Comes on the air. Perfect. See see if that's correct. What time is the bellermane?

00:28:51
Speaker 8: Get that's at one o'clock.

00:28:53
Speaker 4: Exactly, So that means postgame show starts about four. The New Orleans Bowl starts at five.

00:29:00
Speaker 3: Perfect. Perfect.

00:29:02
Speaker 7: We can just we can guide everybody to tune right into it.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you don't need to be doing the post game show. You're not doing that.

00:29:09
Speaker 3: I'm not doing post games. Somebody else canna be doing that.

00:29:12
Speaker 6: I got preparing Yeah, this is the anniversary of the New Orleans Bowl?

00:29:16
Speaker 8: Is it in any New Orleans Bowl?

00:29:17
Speaker 3: This is twenty five New Orleans Bowl.

00:29:20
Speaker 6: And you've been to Southern miss Yeah, you can talk about.

00:29:26
Speaker 3: West.

00:29:26
Speaker 4: I's talk about how Nick Rash got drunk and we had to try to get him home at the end of the night in Hattiesburg.

00:29:31
Speaker 2: No, that's what the color commentator does. You're the playboy play guy. You gotta stick to play by play. You can't have personality. You got to be play by play.

00:29:38
Speaker 6: I think we're gonna have a lot of color commentary from this broadcast.

00:29:40
Speaker 2: I think so no play, very little play by play, just be telling stories. But guys, there's a game going on. What's happening in the game.

00:29:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, this may be less play by play, more code for most of the game.

00:29:53
Speaker 2: So well, good luck.

00:29:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, stats spotder you wait two weeks. I'm on need your all support though. I need you building me up, all right. I already had my my boss look at me and go well this will be interesting.

00:30:06
Speaker 3: I need you all building me up, not bringing me.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: Tom Leech has this big board that he puts together with all these stats and everything. You need something like that in front of you.

00:30:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's somebody that can do that.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: You're spotder, Billy.

00:30:21
Speaker 7: You know Corey Price does stats for the UK people.

00:30:25
Speaker 4: He got my stats, I got, Billy. I need a spotder and I need to figure out these people that write me. I don't know how to pick which one.

00:30:35
Speaker 3: Gets to get something. You shut up. It's gonna be good.

00:30:38
Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be great.

00:30:39
Speaker 4: It's just that may be a less traditional broadcast than what they're used to in the New Orleans Bowl.

00:30:44
Speaker 7: But people entertained how many people.

00:30:47
Speaker 3: Are listening to the New Orleans Bowl on the ESPN radio. You can't be It's gonna be more now.

00:30:53
Speaker 4: I think that's why they put me, put us on, because they think we can bring an audience and then we'll hopefully not bomb completely.

00:31:01
Speaker 3: Who's the first, Harold, Harold?

00:31:03
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Harold, Yes, I was micro call is concerned about yesterday. Kentucky several years ago got beat at Kansas fifty points. Yes they did, Yes, so that was the worst offs I was just asking you. I don't know who the coach was.

00:31:23
Speaker 3: It was Patino, it was it was Patino's first year.

00:31:27
Speaker 4: I think they went down there wasn't am I right about that Ryan. Wasn't it Patino's first year. They went down there and just got obliterated.

00:31:35
Speaker 5: And he kept pressing. He wasn't going to change his style. He kept doing the same thing, and they just kept getting the brains beat in that day.

00:31:41
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, okay, well, thinking about your dad, hope he gets better.

00:31:48
Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it, appreciate the call. Yeah, I believe that was that was the scenario.

00:31:54
Speaker 5: So, yeah, they kept pressing, kept shooting threes. They didn't change their style of play at all.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I had the same I mean, that was his first year. This is the second year, so it is a little bit different. What's next, Dan, Daan, go ahead, Daan.

00:32:07
Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I think I'm the basketball front. It's a little bit of a search for an emotional holy Grail that's not going to be found, So I wanted to use a different analogy. I think you four, Billy and Mario make a really good team. And I think that in the summer, you're all content's probably the best. Now, imagine for two months, when the games get started, three of you are out, and iHeartRadio executives are crapping their pants because they're trying to get the same level of quality that they would have had if three of you are in And so they're finding some other people to fill it, and they're expecting the same quality, the same pacing, the same content, And I don't think that's a realistic thing. That doesn't mean that those people aren't talented. That doesn't mean that those people don't care. That doesn't mean that those people aren't doing it for the money. It just means that they aren't up to the talent of what the OG team would be.

00:32:56
Speaker 3: That's not, in the same way terrible analogy. But here's what I would say.

00:33:00
Speaker 4: That's not a terrible analogy, and I think you're I think that's correct. However, at the center point of that is, you know, you would have your main returner, right, like your centerpiece of the whole thing it's built around, which in this case might be me and in the basketball case is Otaga. It's one thing if Otaga's not there, but Otaga's there, right, and while it's never gonna be as good without the full complementary of things if Otaga's there. And let's say Ryan is Brandon Garrison because he's been around for a long time and we're back, we should be able to not produce a clunker every single big show because at least the two returning Stallharts are there. Yeah, we might not have Drew and Shannon and Mario and we're gonna get them, but we at.

00:33:50
Speaker 3: Least got those two. That was the whole centerpiece of what we brought back.

00:33:54
Speaker 4: And if that doesn't work, then I do think you have to go, wait a minute, what's going on?

00:34:00
Speaker 11: That's fair, but I mean, what if you had to set up all the electronic stuff that Billy does.

00:34:04
Speaker 12: Well some of these that's a good point at some point, Well at some point that be like a sacrificial nature to it, right, and like it would be really frustrating, and you wouldn't be your strengths wouldn't be at your highest.

00:34:17
Speaker 11: So I think to expect Otega to, you know, to to every game give one hundred and fifteen percent and think that he's just going to be smooth, I think it's a little bit short sighted.

00:34:26
Speaker 4: Fair enough, I appreciate the call, and that might not be nice Drew to call Ryan Brandon Garrison he's beat, He's he's.

00:34:32
Speaker 8: Been better than I see it a little bit.

00:34:35
Speaker 7: And their strengths where we're similar in our size.

00:34:38
Speaker 3: Okay, that's probably not.

00:34:40
Speaker 5: Do you did you hear any of the scuttle butt from the open practice they had yesterday from the.

00:34:45
Speaker 3: Do you have some scuttle butt? Yes?

00:34:47
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00:35:23
Speaker 3: Quarterback. Take you sports radio. All right, Drew.

00:35:26
Speaker 4: People are suggesting that we have the spotter tryouts on air.

00:35:29
Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

00:35:30
Speaker 6: I said, you should have a who wants to be my spotter contest.

00:35:34
Speaker 3: But I need somebody with experience.

00:35:36
Speaker 7: Well that's what I mean.

00:35:36
Speaker 6: They gotta they gotta make their case, they gotta come on, maybe give their background, what they're looking for when they're spotting, what kind of binoculars they use, all that stuff.

00:35:46
Speaker 5: The longtime spot at UK is a big fan of this show, listens all the time, text me, like almost every day during the show.

00:35:51
Speaker 3: Has he texted you about this?

00:35:53
Speaker 7: Not yet?

00:35:55
Speaker 4: It feels like this would have been a good time to text you, Like if time listener of this show. Like literally, if I listen to this show all the time and I was a spotterer for UK and I texted Ryan every day during the show, feels like, Shaanea, this would have been the day.

00:36:09
Speaker 2: To text Yeah, if you ever wanted to do it right now.

00:36:12
Speaker 3: Maybe he just doesn't want to do it, Yeah, exactly. He's like, I don't want to go down with that ship.

00:36:18
Speaker 2: I don't want to tie my good name to this train wreck of a show.

00:36:27
Speaker 4: I'm making this good no matter what, even if it just has to be me and Myron taking calls during the.

00:36:33
Speaker 2: I don't think it works that way.

00:36:35
Speaker 3: Why not you just take it?

00:36:37
Speaker 4: You're we completely revolutionize the way they call football.

00:36:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just completely act like the game's not even going on. We completely ignore the game honestly, we'll give you a score update.

00:36:47
Speaker 8: Every now and then. I can hear it now.

00:36:49
Speaker 6: In the second half, Matt turns to to Myron and says, so, who are the famous athletes from New Orleans and all the usual things we do on the show when we're in New cities, Patties bur you.

00:37:02
Speaker 3: Know our friends about me.

00:37:05
Speaker 13: It's gonna be Myron, that is, I'm gonna go, you know, Montana Grill and Bowling Green. I really like it to eat there sometimes, Corvette Museum, Right, should I bring up that Bowler Green has more people per happiness on ozimpic.

00:37:22
Speaker 2: Is important.

00:37:23
Speaker 3: I feel like that should be on there, don't you.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: I mean, we need to know the cities. We need to know the cities that are playing.

00:37:29
Speaker 3: Know the places.

00:37:30
Speaker 8: Yeah for the looms and Bowling Green.

00:37:32
Speaker 4: You can talk about bring in special gas from all these hill billy gims from Bowling Green.

00:37:37
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, I'm breaking the country boy boy, country boy.

00:37:43
Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be a great game.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: You can just bust into song of all those.

00:37:47
Speaker 3: New Orleans bowl has never seen anything like this. Who's next, Pete, Pete, go ahead, Pete.

00:37:56
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I got a little story about most Tlana Central, originally from Owensboro. I went to go play soccer to Tney College in front Roll of Virginia and ended up playing basketball there as well. Tiny school like five hundred undergred. My junior year, we play at North Carolina Central and we lose one hundred and sixteen to thirty eight, and.

00:38:18
Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna be on the schedule next year.

00:38:20
Speaker 4: Your team's gonna play Mark Pope's gonna play you guys next year to make sure that we win.

00:38:26
Speaker 9: I had two threes that game at in Durham, So if they if the Cats need me tonight, I can come by and probably toss.

00:38:33
Speaker 3: Up a few.

00:38:34
Speaker 4: Well, appreciate to call. Do we know anything, Drew? You're pretty good about knowing these teams. What do we know about North Carolina Central tonight?

00:38:41
Speaker 8: What do I not know about North Carolina Central?

00:38:43
Speaker 3: Map?

00:38:44
Speaker 6: Okay, I actually got a little bit scared. I saw they beat Carolina about one by forty points, one hundred and nine to something. But I realize it's not North Carolina. There's a school just called Carolina. Did you know that? They don't even have a page on ESPN.

00:38:57
Speaker 3: There's a school just called Carolina, not even which stay.

00:39:00
Speaker 8: No, they in C Central.

00:39:03
Speaker 3: Where is that?

00:39:05
Speaker 4: Uh?

00:39:05
Speaker 8: I think it's I'll have to look that up.

00:39:08
Speaker 6: You can't even click on their on their page on ESPN dot com.

00:39:11
Speaker 4: Wow, I didn't, I mean I lived there. I didn't know there was a school just called Caroline.

00:39:16
Speaker 6: Beat him by forty five. It's our common opponent is Winston Salem.

00:39:20
Speaker 4: Yeh, I been driven through Winston Salem a thousand times.

00:39:24
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

00:39:24
Speaker 8: But go ahead really threw me off too.

00:39:26
Speaker 3: Uh.

00:39:27
Speaker 6: They played UNC and lost by uh forty four. That's our common opponent. They do have a star player, Gauge Latimore I believe is his name, shooting like forty five percent from three and getting twenty points a game. I actually wonder, well, I was wondering if he could just maybe come over to our team. I don't know, there's not really rules anymore.

00:39:47
Speaker 8: But he's a bucket.

00:39:48
Speaker 3: He's just like we could use him.

00:39:50
Speaker 6: Yeah, they go as he goes. He's first time at this level. He was at another school that doesn't even have an ESPN page last year from like D three. So he's the name to watch, but they're not good. Amore Rake three hundred and fiftieth out of three hundred and sixty five teams on Kim Pumpkins, we are a forty five scheduled.

00:40:06
Speaker 4: I mean, we have scheduled the lowest of the low this year. We would be interesting to see Ryan, what would happen if we played like Minnesota, right, I mean, because all the teams we've played have been top twenty or awful yep, Like we've not played because so it's hard for me to know how are we gonna do in the SEC against teams like Mississippi State because everybody we've played is either really good or awful, And so you know this is gonna be another like we're and we're that's all we're playing until not until conference played.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: So I know when we play Alabama we're gonna struggle.

00:40:42
Speaker 4: But how are we gonna do against like Old miss or how are we gonna do against Vandy?

00:40:46
Speaker 3: That's the thing we don't know yet.

00:40:48
Speaker 5: You're exactly right, and our sample size we have to go on is not good. We the teams you're supposed to beat, you're beating the bad the teams are that are competitive.

00:40:56
Speaker 7: You're getting drilled.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: So the teams that we're getting drilled by are really good.

00:41:01
Speaker 5: Teams mississips Michigan State ends up being fantastic, and we thought that might be the easiest of the six games.

00:41:06
Speaker 6: Remember and three of our five wins. They're ranked three hundred and twentieth or worse. Like that's hard to.

00:41:14
Speaker 3: Get a read on anything.

00:41:15
Speaker 8: That Saturday they're aught to be a little bit of a skid though.

00:41:19
Speaker 6: They've had two bad losses and they're starting to get me after a front start.

00:41:23
Speaker 3: Saturday they did it will not be good if we don't.

00:41:27
Speaker 4: Now, you've got a doctor's appointment here, right, so you're leaving correct?

00:41:31
Speaker 7: Correct?

00:41:34
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:41:35
Speaker 5: They had Big Blue United in for an open practice yesterday. I'll give you the quick three to three hits. One you never could tell they don't like each other. They seem like they one hundred percent liked each other and got along well. Two Cam Williams and Trenton Noah did not miss a shot the entire practice.

00:41:49
Speaker 7: He did not miss.

00:41:50
Speaker 5: And three Jaden Quainton's practice a lot against Rhese Potter going one on one with him and he looks like a man child.

00:41:58
Speaker 3: I mean, those are all good things, but I don't know is that encouraging. I wish they would make them in the game for tonight, maybe so.

00:42:07
Speaker 4: Pregame show starts at four point thirty four and Ryan, we'll be back for that. We will come back our number two. This is Kentucky Sports Radio.