2nd Annual PRIDECAST

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Speaker 1: Welcome to This Guy Gets It with Mark Sessler. This week's episode injury prevention and corresponding success in the National Football League. Injuries are a part of sports. They're a part of football, after all. Football has been described as a violent game large men piled one a top the other above the treasure an oblong ball covered in pigskin. The NFL has made a series of rule changes in recent years to protect its players, especially in the areas of special teams, protecting defenseless players, and of course, around the game's crown jewel, the quarterback. That being said, injuries still occur, both in games and even in practice. I'd also point to the time that Nate Burlison was injured while attempting to prevent two entire deep tishue pizzas from falling off the passenger seat of his moving vehicle. Players twist ankles, mash their groins, and suffer bloody lips, but the NFL continues its efforts to make the game safer for all. Join me next week as we take a look at the league's turf Tug of war will dive deep next week be around the NFL podcast. Still a better love story than Twilight love, his love, his love, his love. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL from Moroccos here in West Hollywood, the heart of Boys Town, during Pride Month. My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm in on a patio filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal housing a sandwich, Connie Fox, Mark Sessler, Oh my goodness, she's already back. Ricky Hollywood, Erica tam Posey, what's up? Gang? Couldn't get rid of me that quickly? This is the Ricky you know, every year we will be here. It was a glory. I will look back on that first podcast forever because it was the first time we ever did it after the pandemic. We were so giddy just to be together in that moment. But like, I don't even know what of NFL talk we did, if any at all, but a helicopter landed in the middle of the podcast. Like it was all so perfect, Which is not to suggest that we're jaded now, because I am very excited to be here. You know, we got some drinks in front of us water. Of course, we have our friends here. We have Randy sha Vez, we got Sean Kelly, you got my brother Kevin, Danger hands let's give it off for Kevin Danger. We actually we actually saw a film with Danger on Monday night called Daughters of Darkness at the New Beverly and I was quite an experience then. That's very had to lightly scold the kids table right before we started the podcast, just to tell them to keep it down a little over there. I was hoping that Justin Graver, the Great Digger, was going to step in and say something and I and I did. I can't help it. In my head is like Erica would have said something already. Bout yeah, I was. I was seconds away from asking them to quiet their conversation in a big spot. Very exciting to be here together, and uh, you know, we've been together for so long now and there's been good times and there's been bad times, and I feel like we're in a good time cycle right now. So let's all appreciate being able to be together here in the middle of West Hollywood. This is so cool. The pridecast during Pride Month with Ricky and and a lot a lot to get to and by the way, Mark excellent debut Epp of this guy gets it. Thank you. Um. You know I thought when I when I like to listen back to these just because it a newer show. UM a complete report to start with, a trenchant report, and that's what I'm going for, and I hope that the listeners each week will be loyal and come back. It delivered on its promise, which was here's the floor mark. Obviously, now he signs a new contract and they want more from him, and what's he here? He's here to deliver takes And I didn't catch any real take in the first half. That was the light thing I would say like it was informative. It was more it was informative. Colleen nailed it. That's your opinion. I thought it was rich with takes. UM, what's up too again? What is the episode number? Episode two? No, that's actually was episode was episode twenty two We just listened to in twenty three next week is uh? It looks a deeper look at the various UM choices teams have made about turf for grass, very sober minded and information although very like Dick shot a chap on the sports reporters kind I wasn't expecting that from you, but I think there's a space to be filled there and that's what I'm attempting there's also it does crack the door open for my dream is that we're one step closer to sports with We're not going there, are you sure? I mean, I you know, listen, we're here today. I could make some decisions today that could change my entire life. It's happening. And now let's now let's turn our attention so much to get to today. By the way, we have uh news. We have a nice segg looking forward to uh here in Boystown. We'll get to in a little bit, but we need to talk to Ricky Hollywood Erica. Yes, what First of all, this is fun, right, this is all together right in your neck of the woods here. You're happy to be here, right? Oh my god, I am so excited, so excited to be in Kansas. Yeah, it's been it's been amazing. Um you know the past how long has it been now a month since since you left us? Yes, it's been amazing. Moment it's been so to you. It's yeah. Um no, I mean, let's pull back the curtain here. You guys did know some stuff was coming up on my plate that I'm very excited at. And today is a phenomenal celebration because I'm out here bitches. Sorry, justin tomorrow is my last day at the NFL. Hello here, you know you're out of here? She goes. She's like, out of the closet? Or is that what you're gonna badcast a second, I got Ricky, you have a glow to you. Is it the removal of us that has allowed that glow to start to emanate from your sto? No, No, it's been. It's been um sad. You know we're talking about plans for us that with a big smile on. I mean, you know, Greg tweeted out this beautiful thing about your amazing contract and no pictures of me, no inclusion for the last five years, and you know when inclusion Greg good? Yeah? Greg? The problem? I don't know. I'm just it's bitter sweet to see you guys. You know, I wish I wish you would. I texted Dan, I was like, could you be any happier that I'm gone? And he's like, oh, shut up, Like the show has to go on. And I was like, but be a little sad, you know, yeah, but you're not sad. It's just it's just like I feel like it's great because it removed like the responsibility for you, and now you can just like hang out and have fun. Like That's how I feel when I come on the show. I don't have like a true work responsibility, like in terms, I did the levels and like the drops and like that. That seems stressful, Graver, I'm sure you're doing great. I can't even help it. I'm like, are we recording? Yeah? Levels are incredibly important, but I had to check, like are you? Are you recording? Justin I'm like, wait, what am I? Sot Erica? You gotta stop? Well, you're a mentor. Where are you going? Um? I am going somewhere that I'm very excited about. And yeah, a couple of places. Actually, we've got some really cool things on the horizon. One one big thing that I am not able to announce yet. All right, well, you know this was we talked about it when you left that this just made sense for your next step to do your ricky thing. And if you're more successful than us, I will resent you. But if you find that, it's like Sam Donald when he left the Jets. If you find an acceptable level of success, I'm very happy for you. If you find too much success, resentment with you, I'm like super happy before you keep going, keep working hard, and then bring me along for the ry. What do you think about Grave Digger, how he's done so far? Be honest, I think he's done a phenomenal job. Um, but you know, how would you know? There's no way you've listened to our podcast sets, and I don't blame you for that, but there's no jams. Actually, a couple of times I would listen to the beginning and end just to find out, like what you guys did during the weekend, because I like don't get texts anymore, like about what but I what the tweets celebrating? Uh, yeah, the truth is, the truth is yes, because you did send me that text, and we worked together for so long and you're such an awesome part of the show and you're forever be a part of the show. But like, you know, again we talked about the contracts you talk about. Me and my brother went to Hanano's in venice Um last week and kind of had a beer and a burger and felt the presidence of Chris and like, like it's still hard to believe that, like two weeks after we lost Chris we were doing episodes again. And because that's just kind of what this job is. You know, you just keep moving. So that's what I said to you, basically that like, it's not like we forgot about Ricky. It's like this is a machine, the tank. There's no reverse gears in this tank. Mark of your questions, do you find grave digger? Um? Is he is his ambition? Is you too ambitious? Is there a concerned They're on your front? You're a supervisor? Is on Mark's front, but he's trying to use you to so so honestly, it's a direct reflection on me because Justin has been my second for the past year. So for the last year I have been training him to get him to a trade erb level. And that's why I felt comfortable leaving you guys in the best hands. Do you have advice for Graver, like just like one last piece of advice we're producing this podcast. Yeah, No, I I think, Um, it's important to to stay grounded and know that Greg is always going to come off as brutally honest, but it comes from a loving place. Dan cares more about the show than his own children, almost and I respect that because he really wants to get it right. So get it right for him and Mark just wants to know what time to start and when he can leave. So as long as you have those timings and you know what's happening, then you're gonna be great. It's deadly accurate. And shout out to Jack and Harrison. I do love you. There are limits, alright, this is awesome, Ricky. I love having you here with us. Thank you. I love having everybody here with Yeah, where's Kevin Danger? He left Sexy by the way into Danger. I mean he's got the rolled up sleeves is not ridiculous. He's not bringing me back. But the Jaws shirt with like the blood and gore on it is like con of sexy. Um the song like are you threatened at all? Before we get into like I would feel he is the younger brother, you know, he's almost six years younger, so but he's like, he's like Beefy, He's like, you've done a super Bowl week with Danger, and I would I would say he does exude. And it's not just my observation although I feel this way, but Um has raw sex energy coming off him. And we've we've been to events where like women were coming out of the woodwork and taking pictures with Kevin Danger. So that's my report on that, right. But family, do you have other brothers too? Yeah? I have a sister, a rarely discussed sister. Um. So it looks like my TikTok filter review Dan and Dan. No. I'm very happy that Kevin's here and if maybe this is the neighborhood for him, maybe it's not, you know, after the show. But let's see what happens. What kind of energy emanates for Danger. We got a lot to get to, transition, so much to get to. But let's start, you know, like we do. I have to say, Greggy, you know you send your in the it's the messaging client that we use this time of year. Sometimes when you send this is the news that I kind of saw. Kevin. You just missed like a hardcore like conversation about you, specifically about your sexuality. You'll have to listen to any went to the bar. Love is love is love is love and this beer is full and I'm back. Maybe there he is Danger exuding that bed end. Um. Let's now talk about the show. Okay, we're gonna talk about things that we're feeling gay for here in the middle of the boys town. But before we do that let's hit the news just maybe let's look a little bit of all of us. You know, everyone's a little bit ah Oh. My point was sometimes when Greg sends the news run down, it's like this sucks and like Mark and I will privately text about right, it's like news rundown was like where does he get off? Even thinking this is news? We do like a twenty minute back and forth about it. But this time Greg, it was like, this is a real good, beefy news. You gotta stretch in O t A season. Some of it's unfortunate news, but it is beefy. It is meaningful news by its nature's it's something that you don't know and probably find unpleasant. Typically, we used to back in the day when we did three shows a week in O t A and Mini Camp season, and we were writing articles like Mini Camp Takeaways, winners and losers for Mini Camp. We were stretching. And now we don't do almost any news from Mini Camp of like who's the starter and who's gotten good. We've we've given all that up. We'll save it for another episode of this guy gets it with Mark Sessler because that's a great app idea. Yeah, that's two from now I'm starting to work. I'll write that up and i'll get that to you. Thank you. All right, let's get to the news. Let's start with the Rams. They've done it again, signing big deals with their greatest stars, locking them up for another Super Bowl run to come. Let's do it in order in which they occurred. The Rams restructured Aaron Donald's contract. We you know, we went through the old process of oh, is he gonna retires it? But no, he was never gonna retire. He just wanted a raise, and guess what, he got a raise. An extra forty million over the next three seasons, keeps him on the field, and it makes him the highest paid defensive player in football, which is bang exactly where he should be, where he should be, and it pays him like a star quarterback, which makes sense. And then two days later, Cooper Cup signs a three year extension the star wide receiver. Uh, it's essentially a new five year, a hundred ten million dollar deal puts him in that category of the highest paid wide receivers in football twenty two million a year, coming off an All World season. So here we go, Greg and people are going to hem and haw and get all fired up about the Rams salary cap situation, but at the end of the day, they know what they're doing, They've proven it, and they are getting into bed with two guys that are cornerstone of their Super Bowl championship. The job this episode just to point out anything like sound vaguely perfect, that's the Donald deal is the one of the crazier deals. And it makes sense because he's maybe the greatest football player ever, one of the best football players are one of the best defensive flip football he's in the mix. I'm just saying, um, but to get more than thirty million dollars a year, where you didn't even get any extra years tacked on, it was just like, we're gonna give you more money. Here's you know, ten million more year. Here's you know, basically a hundred million dollars guaranteed. It's basically like a two year deal. But it's just a sign that like the teams with the owners who have a ton of cash have a huge advantage because everyone's like, how does this all work with the salary cap. It's just because you're giving him cash. St Stan Cronky has just got cash to burn. He's just throwing money away lately. I'm not being real about it, but like they're signing bonuses that they can give and just spread the money out, Like the Giants cann't do that. There, you got a broke owner. You know that the Steelers can't do that. You got the Titans can't do it. That he couldn't do the deals that Cooper cup. And this is not necessarily a good thing, because it's true. I think it's the thing for the future of the league. I sti't understand what the salary cap is at this point because the Rams have three players that are making each making over million dollars. I'm getting like about a cap with the signing bonus and you could pro rate it. And it's this thing, this is that these deals are going to be the one that make at the talking point now because now everyone's fighting about it. I saw Andrew Brandt went on Pat McAfee's show and then they were bagging on Pellicero, who came on Good Morning Football this morning to like defend himself that the salary cap does matter. But what it comes down to, like the very like from what I understand, cap over cash. If you are a rich owner who's willing to spend and take a risk and not getting caught with a horrible contract with your great stars if they fall off, you could spread out that that bonus money and then your cap will be okay by the time you get to five years from how big is the salary cap gonna be? But this is not new Washington and Dallas, We're doing this twenty five years ago. This is not a new thing. And this comes from someone who's a big baseball fan who's seen the disparity and salary caps, even in salary even as a Yankee fan, has had a negative effect on the sport. Now that like there is there's a light being shined on this in a different way. It does make me again worry about Joe Burrow. It makes you worry about Justin Herbert. What's gonna happen for these teams that aren't willing to do the same thing that the Rams are right football, one of the reasons it's become a national sport where no matter who's playing on Thursday Night, it's gonna blow the ratings of any other athletic competition out there is because the NFL focused for so long on equitable scenarios between all thirty two teams going back to when there were twenty eight teams, that this is starting to become an issue. It's not good for football on any level. And I don't think the cap thing is an issue at all. But they do in two seasons from now have a hundred and twenty eight million tied up in four players. That said, they look at that, they know that, and they know they can manage that, and we'll see what those contracts situations are in two years anyways, But if they win another Super Bowl butter and what's their defense without Aaron Donald? Everything changes. So they just had to do this. It's not this thing where it's like, oh, the bill is gonna come do someday. No, you can just keep doing this that I've been doing this. That's what I was gonna say. Like the Rams are a perfect I think that's why they're such an interesting TALCUPI with this because they're the perfect example in both directions. They did the same thing with Golf, and they did the same thing with Gurley and it backfired, and you would think, oh, if you backfire with these type of deals, you're screwed. For five years, they won the Super Bowl. So it's like, maybe it's just I don't know, maybe Greg, because you say you're not as concerned about it. Maybe it just comes down to the league is changing, the way players are paid is changing, and teams will adapt because ultimately they are all very wealthy people behind these teams. I hope it does, but my concern is that some teams won't be able to do the things that a team like the rent I think it's an edge, but it's it's still a hard cap in some ways. It's not that huge of an edge, Like it's not gonna turn dumb franchises into successful ones just because they have an owner that can spend a lot of money. That Donald thing is is unique, But cups cups Steal is more him saying like, actually, I won't try to max out, and these are two players that like, you can't be wrong on one of the greatest three defensive players of all time and the best receiver in the league last year. It's like, you can't really be wrongst episode. I think we've covered that topic in a rich fashion. So cup Steal reminds me more of a little bit like Rob Gronkowski's deal He's signed early in his career that he regretted, like and Cups getting seventy five guaranteed, that's second or third among receivers. So he's happy, but he he didn't try to break the bank with this. If anything, his deal will look below market sooner than later. But is there a better place to be than to be in Los Angeles? To have a team that's going all in year after year and like to do it here in California and having won a Super Bowl too. I mean, it feels like they just have everything going for them. They have Sean McVeigh who everyone loves and adores and like, you know, we just got married and he's eating Lombardi cake at his wedding. Yeah, I don't know about the wedding. And he's going to resign there. This team feels like it just has that like it factors, and you have the Chargers who are really fun, exciting team on the rise. It's it's a good time for ELI. But to your point, that's a pretty big difference in ownership. And we're about to talk about like another part of the Walmart dynasty, which Stan Cronkie is too. He married into it. He was already rich then he married into Walmart, that's sure, And that is such a difference between them and the Charges. The Chargers are essentially what the Jets used to be in Giants Stadium, and they're a family run operation that's never really made their own money, you know they came from. So if there ever was gonna be a dichotomy, it's those two l A teams because because the Chargers, I don't think have a lot of cash. Truth, bro Truth, all right, let's uh those a weird transition, it's a plus, but it is true. I'm feeling good about your Celtics. Celtics and five Celtics and five now, oh, I hate to take whatever. I'll take whatever. All right, we got you. This story is not gonna go away, and you and you could say you're sick of the story, but facts are facts, and and things keep coming out and it's just important and to the NFL season to come, and that's what we're doing here to talk about this stuff. The New York Times reported Tuesday that Brown's quarterback to show Watson, booked massage appointments with at least sixty six different women over seventeen months from the fall of two thousand nineteen through the spring of two thousand twenty one. The list of sixty six includes the twenty four women who have filed lawsuits against Watson, including two in the past week, a woman who sued Watson but then withdrew the complaint, two women who filed criminal complaints against Watson but did not sue him, a list at least fifteen therapists who issued statements of support for Watson at the request of his lawyers. At least four therapists contracted with the Texans, And it goes on and on and on. And this is Connie. This is a situation here where it's like the New York Times and Jenny Barrentis, who is an excellent reporter, not just a great NFL reporter, just great report And that's why she ended up at the Times. The Gray Lady, as it's known. Um, they're doing the work. They did the work that the Brown supposedly said, right, the due diligence that the Brown said that they did. And now these two other lawsuits just came about, like shouldn't this be enough? Just based on I texted you guys about the last episode and Greg outlining exactly what some of the suits say and just like hearing that language is jarring in and of itself, like it feels like it's a violation to just hear about it. Shouldn't that be enough? The fact that Deshaun Watson booked appointments with sixty six women from one he said that it was only forty okay, fine, sixty six women? And then the fact that in this New York Times article that the Texans supposedly we're helping with n d A s and basically providing a safe space for this to happen. Shouldn't this be enough? When you read the latest suit from the woman, it's appalling, like I don't even want to say the things that happened because I don't even feel comfortable saying it on a mic for a for a national news network, because it just feels wrong. And shouldn't that be enough that it is uncomfortable to even talk about the details surrounding these cases? Why is he not suspended yet? Why is he being awarded the largest contract to play? Why is there a bidding war for his services when he is out treat This is a pattern. This is not a one off. This is You can't tell me that this is just like a coincidence that this is like a money grab. This is not, and this is a total violation and it's a slap in the face two women across society basically, not even just like NFL fans, it's just like being a woman in general and hearing about this, and it's just going to keep happening, new updates, new suits, anything, and it's just it's a lot to to hear about and now to have to talk about because it's my job. It's infuriating, quite frankly, and there have been so many times where I say, I don't want to talk about it because I don't want these feelings to bubble up. But I am so angry. I'm so angry at the Browns at the NFL. He should be suspended full stop. Yeah, it is absolutely sickening, and you absolutely hit the nail on the head as a woman, not even an NFL fan, as a woman to to be reading you know, comments, and of course there are trolls, but there are a majority of people who feel differently than we do, and to me, that is so that's sickening in the ax itself as well, because it is just like everywhere we turn, it is a constant, you know, battle to deal with yourself when you're reading this and you're looking at how people, I mean, you are showing us who you are when we're reading these comments and you think we don't know who you are, but it is like so hurtful. And I've looked at something that that in his contract. The reason why the Browns became, you know, part of the race for de Shaun Watson, is because it almost was like his agent had written that contract. There like no voids, there are all these different type of things that these other teams that were in the race for him dropped out because it was essentially like Watson's agent wrote it. So looking at this and his contract, he's he really kind of is bulletproof still to this day, and to that itself is makes me stick to my stommach. The way he's not though, is if they suspend him. And I think that's why the timing and the details in this article are so important. The public pressure that has come up the last three weeks, Kevin Stefanski has spoken the Browns coach on Wednesday and each of the last three weeks. On each of those Wednesdays, the day before there was a major Deshaun Watson development. We we've talked about him in the show. So the HBO um, then it was the extra civil uh lawsuit, and now how it's this reporting, and I do think the timing should influence the NFL's suspension. So not only are the Texans now being brought into this lawsuit, according to Tony Buzzby, the lawyer who's representing all the women in this case, they're now suing the Texans as well, which adds, you know, a whole other wrinkle to it. But the details that are coming out and I think absolutely provides public pressure, and that's what good reporters in good media work can do, and I think the NFL responds, unfortunately to public pressure and pr more than anything. And the fact that this is all happening now, to me is is very meaningful because frankly, that claimant, which was very tough to to read about, it really wasn't that different than if you read them all. And that's kind of what I said this whole time, like read all the reporting from Jenny. Read all the cases if you want, or don't talk about it, but if you're going to like read all the cases, it really wasn't that um different than most of him. It's just part of a and so but I do think that this happening now is going to really make a difference. And I was It's so hard to guess, but I just feel like he's going to be suspended long longer than I thought he was going to be a few months ago. Time with you, I think there's there's been a quickening on that front. And I to your point, Erica, at this point, if you're the Cleveland Browns, you've completely lost your identity and your north star and whatever it was you were hoping to do with all this, um, it's incredibly cynical. It's left a a dark blanket and aura over the entire offseason and going forward because the story is not going away. And I've tweeted a few things lately. You know, have been a Browns fan, was a Browns fan since sixth grade, which was a million and a half years ago, And I feel so comfortable totally abandoning everything that they stand for at this point. But there are, like with any fan base, when you tweet something about that, a massive group of people that come at you telling you that you know you're not a guy, you're not a real guy if you've jumped shipped because you don't have any fortitude, just stick with it, stick the course, be a real fan. Utter nonsense. And it's like, to Greg's point, I don't think that many of these people have. And it's not just men, it's it's female Browns fans too, And at this point, I feel like there's a complete disconnect with reality and that that portion of fans that are on that. And it's like, to Greg's point, go read what this case is about victim by victims, And just one other thing, like and I won't get into like the graphics of everything, but just like a few things that popped out to me reading the twenty four suit here, just about how Watson's tone became more aggressive as he repeatedly made demands about where he should be massaged, and how that he kept piercing eye contact with the masseuse as she was clearly uncomfortable, and then even worse things after that, Like in times like these, I just so desperately wish that West was here so I could hear what he had to say, because I know what he would say about it, but I just I wish I could hear it and there is a and Mark, you're dealing with that, and that's very true. Colleen West would be on fire about this, and rightfully so. Um, there's a segment of the fan base, Cleveland fans that just want us to go away so they can get back to having their new superstar quarterback. And that's the Browns is an organization that they were expecting this to kind of blow over. And Um, it hasn't blown over, at least not yet, and we'll see it does it doesn't, and it would have, it would have if he just offered some level of contrition and settled the cases. I mean, that's the thing. He could end this all pretty quickly. He'll still get suspended the same amount, but if he if he wanted to end it, he could end But it's almost like he or less from his perspective, he's in too deep now because he's been playing this game for so long. The Browns are into deep like it makes me wonder are the Browns internally how they actually feel about this now. That's why I brought up Stefancie. He's had these press conferences and he's so uncomfortable about it, and he you could almost have seen his face, realizing like this is my life. They they completely We talked about it the day it happened on March. I think it was like that the Browns completely are missing the boat. What this actually means, what what this means for the team, What this means morally? What this everything? It changes everything about the Browns. And and by the way, so is DeShawn Watson totally removed from reality. There has not been one word, one syllable out of his mouth that suggests authenticity or accountability on any level. He seems completely removed from the entire situation and what this means for his own life. All right, let's take a break and we'll hit some more news. All right, we're back. Let's get to more news. The Denver Broncos announced Tuesday night that the team, you know, I didn't start my little timer. I can't erstwhile or producer, thank Hollywood, Hey hit your time or baby, I can't help it. Once you have been in the in the arena, you're always a player. It's muscle memory. You never leave the arena. Broncos and asked Tuesday night at the club and the Walton Penner family have entered into a purchase and sale agreement to acquire the team. The Walton Penner family is now set to acquire ownership of the Broncos from the Pat Bowl and Trust, pending approval of the NFL's from the NFL's Finance Committee and at least three fourths of the owners uh. The winning bed bid was for kind of in the realm of what our new deal with NFL is four point six five billion. According to NFL Networks James Palmer, this is one of those like team these teams now like the Rams, that are going to be able to do that cash over cap stuff. And it just makes me think, like with Russell Wilson's contract coming up, it's it can be a lot less complicated now for them that they can just give him a monster signing bonus, spread it out in a way that the Bowlands could not. Like this has proof that any owner who's not really doing a good job, fans should be like just sell it, bro or or you just like get your billions get you could you could sell it for four billions, So if you don't have the money, like go sell your team, because four point six five billion is outrageous. Like the Bowlands makes like what was happening within their family makes succession look like my little honey or something like. And yet it could not have worked out any better for them. And I think if if you're a Broncos fan, ultimately you're happy because this ownership group, according to Forbes, is five times richer than the second richest NFL owner. They've got seventy to nine billion dollars. Like right now, Russell Wilson on a really strong roster and you just got bought by a mega rich double oligarch scenario Walmart money, right. I think Greg naturally underrates the competitive nature of my little pony to some degree. That was a bit of a bizarre comment by him, But I would say this a lot of times when a new owner comes in, if you're the head coach, if you're anyone in the organization, you're thinking potential overhaul. Not this time, though, this is one. If you're Vic Fonio and they kept you one more year, you're out of their baby. But Nathaniel Hackett, Russell Wilson, it's a great time to take over the team, to provide stability, and it's a good time to be Nathaniel Hackett. Yes, I wonder if this means that they'll get a new stadium. It did catch on fire earlier this year at one point seem possibly it's a little weird that that the Walmart family owns most of the Denver sports teams, because Cronky owns a couple of them too, So Walmart's just like putting their steaks down. But it's wrong with Walmart anyways. Also, the one member of ownership group that is not connected to the Walmart money, Melody Hobson. Um. She's married to George Lucas, which I thought was interesting. And they might bring in Peyton Manning, you know, as like a partial small ownership to Peyton Manning that advised the Jets to hire Adam Gates. Let's you know, we don't need Peyton Manning and an advisor role, just staying you're a little booth with your brother and let's fly. Not George Lucas's first wife, by the way, he went through a rocky divorce many years ago. Thank you about that. Marks always got to get that Star Wars weird um like divorce, pop fans opinions on the wives of the creators like you have opinions, and George Lucas, she actually like edited Star Wars. Correct. She was like a high octane film professional positive opinion. When Colin brought it up that it was his wife, Mark visibly rolled his eyes because you had those facts and you were like, I have to get wearing sunglasses. I did not roll my eyes. Was some nice note the other news Washington commit What is with the Washington commanders? Why is everything so messy with the Washingtonanders? Defensive coordinator Jack del Rio apologized on Wednesday after you called the January six riots at the U S Capitol a quote dust up, And I could throw the sound of Jack del Rio um explaining his thoughts and and you, if you want to seek it out, read it. And I'm not here to tell you what to think about Jack del Rio's comments, because you already live in your respective echo chamber on this. But my bigger point is, like, man, the Washington football team, even though they are getting ready, they're starting, they're starting to get ready to take command, they also don't seem to ever get past the point of like being totally locked in on ball and the organization is just distractions forever with this team. No, me and Jack del Rio have a heart out at five pm for the insurrection hearings today, So like, I can't we gotta wrap this pot up soon. Yeah, it came from del Rio's Twitter account, which uh is not the first time he's made news with his Twitter account. Not none of this. These opinions that he has are surprising coming from him, and they're not that exceptional from NFL coaches. I would say more than not, there's more Jack del Rio's than not um among NFL coaching. Now, they many, they keep the opinions of themselves and they don't go as hardcore because uh, it creates a problem with your players, um that you might not really respect them that much when it comes down to it. And uh, I think that's why he had to apologize. But it had some real repercussions already. Politicians in the Virginia area who were not too excited to help contribute public funds were saying like, yeah, we're not contributing public funds to this commander's new stadium A because Daniel Snyder is a billionaire and they're a mess and we're bringing them up to the Congress in a couple of weeks anyways, and be because of this guy Jack del Rio. Now they might just be using that as a convenient excuse. They probably weren't getting that money. But it's like, uh, Jack del Rio stepped in as a puppet in political talks, which is whatever, but that's part of the problem. It's like, you're the d C, you're the defensive coordinator. Dude, pipe down, get out of the way, Like why are you bringing your attention to yourself and creating this distraction of the team. Well, Virginia State senator literally called his comments the nail in the coffin on my stadium talks. Now, I agree that's been politicized, but Jack del Rio was overtly um in writing against Colin Kaepernick's protests from That's what this was about. That's what his comments were about. He was diminishing everything that happened uh two summers ago after uh George Floyd was murdered and saying like that the reaction to that, um, he was making an analogy to it. And I'm sure that it's not going over well with a lot of his defensive players. Well, and I think the good ownership probably came. Someone came to Jack Dorion said you better apologize now because you're not special enough at what you do to be walking around trumping those comments around. All right, let's move on finally, Darius Leonard. We'll undergo back surgery. Cult star linebacker expected to return during training camp. They believe Leonard will be ready for the regular season. You may remember that Leonard is also recovering from an ankle injury that needed surgery, so he's beat up. I'll put a linebacker. Uh that's been just a lynch pin of their defense for years now. You hope that he's gonna come back because the Colts will need him. Erica, he's got to bring Arika back in the show. Darius Leonard. Yeah, no, I mean I really That was actually something in the next segment that I was going to talk about. I'm pretty gay for the Colts this year with Matt Ryan and Pittman coming off his first for a thousand yards? Are you stepping on that one or you'll just get I got plenty, I got plenty of them. So I'm excited to see Matt Ryan in this Colts offense and hopefully, you know, Leonard is there to contribute to. I think this is gonna be a real upgrade for the team. Dan was talking about how like he has these twenty minute long text threads with Mark where he complains about what level of news I'm bringing. And I thought about that before I threw in the Darius Leonard back story, because we're not just doing every little injury and I'm thinking dance, thinking, hey, we want to have fun at the pridecast, Like do we really need to talk about surgery? And it had to be like a high bar to get over it. And the fact the fact that it's Darius Leonard and it's happening in June. You no one wants to have June surgery. That's a surgery you were trying to avoid, and it's your back and it's coming off of an ankle surgery. This this is their best defensive whatever they're saying, like, we hope he's ready for the season. He's probably not going to be this season. Okay, So here's the thing. The ankle, it was fixed. He had that surgery last June and it lingered a little bit. The problem was he was not feeling functional movement in the ankle, So it's not like it was an ankle injury, just the full functionality of the ankle wasn't there. So I know I did a little bit comes from the spine, how much comes from nerve. So that's what their back surgery is. What they're thinking is it was a nerve in his back that was pausing the ankle to not have full function functionality. So now hopefully it will all be good training camp guys. But he'll be back for the timetable officially is he'll be back the start easily because is he a top ten most important player defensively in the a f C. I think he's in that still, like a first team All Pro last year with the lingering ankle injury. Would you like to come on this guy gets it one of these weeks we got kind of guest. I always thought they were just kind of like fireside FDR relative. It's about a thirty second long, so she'd have about maybe eight seconds like an NPR type slip. I got it. I feel like you could be um. I don't know if you want to go to medical school or whatever, but there is an angle. I didn't want to be a neonatologist when I was a medical doctor expert when it comes to football, they used guys that aren't very good at it, like that guy who got Women's guard that works for the Chargers. Yeah, there's a few women. Yeah. So I wanted to go to medical school and be a neonatologist, which is like a baby doctor working the NIKI or whatever. Yeah, and then I was like anthesiologists make how much money? So then I went to the route. Here I am in the NFL network. Dandels revealed that he never went to like the neo natal thing. He was too worried about the podcast. He wasn't trying to look at let me know when the Baby's at Home podcast taking uba. That's what's happening in the news. Love you baby. Um. All right, First of all, I want to apologize to my brother Kevin danger hans is now that he's here. When I was a young man in my adolescence, Kevin and I shared a bunk bed. He was top punk, I was bottom bunk. And you know the old Malcolm Gladwell theory, ten thousand hours is the magic number for greatness, to like, know how to get great at something, tend to be an expert, to be an expert. For me, I gained my ten thousand hours throughout my adolescence and into my twenties listening to w f A N on the Sports Radio Titan in New York and to get to that number. Uh, that required the clock radio next to my bed playing overnights with the user Steve Summers and my brother six years younger than me. So I'm let's say I'm fifteen, he's nine. Uh. He was subjected to w f a N his entire youth all the way until I went away to college. And UM, I just want to use this platform. Uh, Kevin, I'm gonna hand you the mic to apologize for putting you through that, because I understand it helped me get to the ten thousand hours and really in a lot of ways. And I mean this sincerely. I don't think i'm here right now if I wasn't that in love with the idea of sports talk radio, but maybe it was at your expense. And I just want to say I'm sorry and I love you. Then I'm proud of you where you are. And uh, I feel like we did that together. And that being said, Sports Radio sixty six fan w f a N do your every naight, Kevin day your hand, just everybody in the county crows round, Okay, that you should apologize for more hours didn't get you anywhere the Counting Crows business. But August and everything after, I stand by the record, and I feel like I have nothing to apologize. That was so beautiful as like in sync this I promise you which I want to be my wedding song, and Jet said absolutely not was playing, but you apologize And I felt emotional like I really like that. Maybe County Crows like, haven't you put a ring on it? Like what's going on? You know? I was like, wait, aren't you married? And then I forgotten? Now you know that's how I was married away and came back without a ring. Right now, I'm the producer, so let's not talk about the sanctity of marriage. Yeah, okay than others? Yeah, yeah, you're up to over there. Yeah, turned down the walls. No, I think in the next year. I think in the next year. It's not I would not delay this. It's not an exciting story. It's not an exciting story. She is getting her doctorate in physical theory base, she's in school and a three year program. I just I don't I don't need to cut you off. Okay, I need to tell you something. Don't wait to tell you something. I got to talk to you. If you are with somebody who's super hot as I was in my dating year, and amazing and better than me and still are yeah, and still remains. You gotta put a ring on it because if she meets some fancy you know, lady doctor or whatever, if you don't get the ring on before that happens, it's a rap. You gotta get the ring. So you're saying, I'm batting way out of my leak, is what you're saying. I think you're hot and cool and funny and smart, but not mess around. Okay, listen to me. Jett said she does not want to be planning a wedding while in school. She said that if we get engaged in the next year, we can do a two year engagement. How much of those are we cutting out? You can leave it what Dan just said that, Erica, let's keep it. This has been like the most anti Pride part of the episode somehow. I don't know how. Yeah, no, no, no, I just we are. We are. I have the funds for the ring put aside. We're ready to go. She just wants a two year engagement because of school, so by next year we will be engaged. Does dance analysis strike any fear in you though that maybe she would. She doesn't want along engagement, and she's in school for the next two years, so she's like, I cannot plan a wedding while I'm in school getting her doctor down From advice friend a friend, was that at a bound in your opinion? Um, I think that what I see differently happening here, a little differently, is that Erica is working with jets career and wishes to some degree versus like dropping an ultimatum by the time she gets home tonight, which could go south. I think ultimatums don't typically work. I don't think your advice is is misguided or it's coming from a good place. I just enjoyed your backpedal explaining to her why she's such a good catch. That but we all know you, we all know, we all know funny, we all know I'm batting out of my leek and I trying my hardest to lock it down. I probably means I wish that she just like landed in the helicopter across the street, and that was the whole proposal, right, but maybe next year, you know. Fun fact I actually thought about when I first met her for the first time, Lakisha was like, thank god you were with her because this, the last one, was a total disaster. And then I even said, me and me and Jett were talking one night that the perfect person that we would want to ask to marry us would have been West. It isn't amazing. Yeah, he would have been great. He would have been so good. And he thought Jet was better than me. But no, listen, I don't. I do not stand by this narrative. Jet is better. She literally all right, before we take a break, Um, this is the podcast. What are we doing after the podcast, We're going to go to the abbey to where the male dancers are. I'm gonna get Kevin Will loosened up. We're getting dangerous. We're getting dipped into the culture cure. Anything could happen. Five years ago at the Super Bowl in Minneapolis, I pitched an idea about scuba diving and you guys making your picks in the aquarium at the Mall of America, and all the suits at NFL said yes, And you know who said no, Mark, I'm not taking my shirt off and getting in that water. You're getting in the water today, big boy. That was a long time ago. Also, I'm sure that story has happened. That was a long time ago. My world has changed because he's hot, he like he's lost. I care about it almost nothing at this point. Yeah, he's I don't think it's about I don't think it's about being afraid to take off shure. I think he's saying he fears nothing. I just don't care. I also know probably the driving force behind that, and we would have shared. Mark's opinion was like, we're not doing all that for something barely anyone's gonna watch. That's much where I was coming from. Remember you were you guys were cutting fish, you did that. Remember what the Quari experience and then and then who ended up on NFL network because of their segments? Okay, so yeah, you can put me in your little tweet next time they did. Let's pace ourselves with the airing of grievances before we take a break. Um, it is the pridecast. I would like to share my definitive straight CIS gender power rankings of greatest queer icons. It's interested, yes, yeah, question Mark, Yeah, of course, of course. For one, I swear to god. Number five Judy Garland. Okay, how thank you danger Judy Garland so iconic that once upon a time kind of slang for if you're gay. Oh, she's a friend of Dorothy m hmm. Such an icon that a new gay icon, at least to me. Rufus Wainewright one of my favorite musicians, like does entire albums just being Judy Garland and does and sells out big places doing that. You still it's still happened. He was on my also receiving votes list, so I wouldn't expect. She's also TCM Turner Classic Movies Star of the Month. Check it out. My brother works for a basic cable channel, number four. Gaga. Yeah, let me by the way, you flag any of these if you don't think they're going well, she's an ally right, she's not. Well, that's true. I get it. But in an ideal world, maybe you would don't tell about your ideal world. This is my last baby, isn't it a scale? Aren't we all gay? Greg's right, that's true. I told Colleen we're making out this weekend at the past. I think Erica said that on our episode last year. I agree, we're all gay here. Okay, so stop judging my list based on what people's faces are. Number three Freddie Mercury. Okay, a man who um never came out publicly however, I mean icon and he didn't. Yeah, number two. Listen, I'm gonna stand by this one. And it's maybe men of a certain age or people of a certain age. Madonna An here's the thing about Madonna born in nineteen eighty. The only um window I had to queer culture as a like younger person that wasn't the um stereotypical was played up for comedy was Madonna and some of those videos and like her Truth or Dare documentary, like she is, you want to talk about allies, she gets a lot of Madonna. What do you think? I agree totally. She could have been number one fluid introducing fluidity too at a time we didn't know number one. He Man stupid, No what go watching app I mean I was Sarry you just because it was you. We're gonna go out and John So he Man has a much better choice, Yeah, much better. My basement was riddled with Heman figures. And I can attest to what you're saying. I think based on some comments to the episode today, it's all checking out. Also receiving votes, John Waters shout out Cereal Mom, Johnny Cakes from the Sopranos, No and Eric, thank you. I'm glad to have made the last We also receive votes. You didn't actually make the list, that's true. Thank you, neither of you. Mark. Let's take a break back, all right, welcome back, here we go, let's fly stuff. We're gay. Four two is just good. Yeah, I think it's great. I do think that the community might look for the next list of you know, gay IUDs have more gays and lesbians on the list. You know, I don't want to hear Greg. It's like, must course correct literally everything that occurs. I'm just adding that as as something about that. You got a little note card in front of you. I would love coming up with any list. I want your list. Don't. Judge's tiniest thing I've ever seen in my life. I don't. There's only like six words. That's what takes like one through five. Rufus, Wayne, Right, I mean, how do you not have that? I'm just saying, how do you not have? Rute? Paul? It's like the five greatest greatest civil rights leaders and it's like five white guys. Alright, God, Dan, you put a lot of professional effort into that, and I appreciate. I think we all appreciate, outside of one of us, what you came up with the podcast bullproof Glass and join us on the show. All right, let's get into it. He's googling like I'm gay icons a little teller that are doing something much. We're going, let's get into it. What we're gay for NFL style or maybe not NFL style. We're having fun. Yeah, and I just noticed your shirt. This is the one I wore last year, like the annual Pride cash shirt when we were all on our way here. Dan pointed out that it was basically the same thing that happened last year. Mark got here early. I was stuck in traffic. I don't know what else was it was. Yeah, you were. I was sort of in the middle, like slightly late, but not not meaning I was. I also ordered my food ahead of time because I was starving. You know, it's like you and you're gonna leave early too, which you did last I mean it is yeah early, hang out with my it's my kids final day of school, and I have I have other parents taking them to this beach event afterwards. Um, but at some point someone's got to go yesaid that you had kids to simply get out of social constructs and arrangements. Dan, how did you just notice I would rather hang out with them. I'm not even you were wearing earlier shirt that's ever been a shirt that one started. I did a wardrobe change. You've got rainbow popsicles on there. Like, yeah, there's unicorns, there's love as love. I don't know human bolts. There's a lot of things happening. All right, here we go, Okay, I'm ready, Yeah, okay, what do you get tweet deck and West's lists that are on tweet deck because I heard that tweet deck is going away and I don't know how to save his lists, and I live and die by Wes's list. It's the only way I watch games. I have an NFL Beat Writers, I have an NFL National, I have every single division he put together, and I specifically watch games and bring the lists over so I can see them. Now. John told me that there's some type of hack I didn't follow. I'm not really sure what it is. I need your help, listeners. How do I save these lists? Because I need them and I want them because I feel like every time I go on tweet deck. It's still like a little connection to the West. I'm gay for the lists and I need them in my life. I think our listeners will know a solution, because I'm sure there's a tweet deck equivalent out there that maybe you can somehow transfer. I don't know anything, but I bet they'll come to could they got? I guess it's still around right now, right now? Yeah, that's a heartbreak. West would also meticulously update those all throughout the off season every year, and when he first arrived at the NFL, you know, you'd work shifts together if he's a Saturday where he's like, bro, like, let me send you all these like various lists, and like twenty minutes later when I uploaded his nineteen division by division, beat writer by beat writer long form NFL article tweet deck forms, like I suddenly was an organized blogger. I don't know what I was doing before he had. He did the same thing too with RSS feeds back in the day when that is like where we look to find news Internet read later the that website as well, like West introduced me that where you can kind of a list of bookmarks, like interesting things when you're in the middle of the shift, and then you go back and read it. That's like pocket probably. All right, that's good. Everybody shout out on Twitter at Colleen Wolf with tweet deck replacements. All right, let me get a football one out there. I'm gay for baker comeback season in light of recent events. I've always thought Baker was interesting but maybe flawed as a quarterback, right, talks a lot, gets himself in trouble, but not bad trouble. But he's a he's a as you know, Mark, he's charismatic, and we used to talk about it in the uh like Sam Donald never said anything, but at least at least Baker was interesting, you know, and he puts himself out there. Now we're in a situation where here's my dream scenario. Deshaun Watson is suspended the entire season as he should be a couple of them indefinitely. Yeah, you can hit him with that. The Browns reach out to annual traditions, right, They're like, this take is so hot. Were preemptively sending ambulances in the fire department. Um, it's a patty wagon. Yeah, They're like, come on, boys, Deshaun Watson spending the entire season. The Browns, this is the dream scenario. Reach out to Baker and they get rebuffed in vulgar fashion, right like Baker and his raps are like, get the hell well, vulgar, get the fuck out of my face. Okay, I am going somewhere else that's not here. Cleveland, aware it has no moves left to play, releases the Fumber, the former number one overall pick. Now we need a little good fortune to come in, whether it's with one of these teams we keep connecting them with Seattle or Carolina, or a team let's say it's gonna be crazy here New Orleans. A team that's good and has a starter, but may be could upgrade a backup quarterback and opens a window for him if something happens, lands in a good place, gets an opportunity, and enjoys his best season while the Browns wallow in the mud on the field and off The Browns who soured on Baker Mayfield because according to people inside the building, they wanted an adults in the room. Well you found a different adult, So go go sit on that, Cleveland. But I would love to see that. I hard root for Baker at this point, Like wherever he goes is going to be a candidate for the team that I'm most plugged in on. He will land somewhere at some point, and I think he's a perfect set up for a comeback Player of the Year because, yes, I think he got on your nerves at times, Dan, and I think he got on a lot of people's nerves. But his level of annoying is so different than some of these other athletes out there that are doing harm and creating issues. Baker Mayfield deserves to land with the team and start swinging his sword. I think the situation that he's in right now, and base on the things that have happened in the past with him, he kind of went from one end of the spectrum to the other because it felt like he was, you know, just popping off a little too much about stuff and airing a lot of grievances and maybe saying things that should have just less art of it. But now seeing the situation that he's in, I think that a lot of people, a lot more people are behind him and would root for him to be a comeback Player of the Year, to come back and absolutely destroy everyone. That would be the best story ever. Like I would love that personally, man, I mean he was like the guy that brought up, brought out like the anti vax All Stars when he was like looking for any other NFL player that who actually liked him enough to like work out with him. And I feel like, why that get you? I'm saying, like, I don't know if he's got a lot of support within the NFL. I think fans, I think he's a compete all time contrarian take from Greig. Are you talking like literally the whole story in Cleveland is that clearly when the locker room was divided, which I don't really believe all this stuff. If he was good enough, he would have been good enough. But like the whole O. B J. Baker thing, it's a rap, like they were fans of O. B. D. He was a great teammate, Like there wasn't a lot of that for Baker, Like he has to work on. He's talked about it that he has to work on, like getting the trust of other NFL players. I think he's much better though at this point than people kind of remember because his highs are very high as low as are low. But you could see him having understand the context of my commentary, right, I was just talking about colleague. I don't even remember what the context of the commentary is, like it would really stick it to his soon to be former team if he thrived in a new take some limiting some of the other stuff, like he's going to be the people's champion. And I think he's a divisive guy. He always will be, like he's he's kind of h He's got some Jack del Real comments out there too, and it's past. But I think there's gonna be a segment that and there's gonna be a segment that aren't all right. I think I hope the listeners understand my angle on that. But um, let's go nown NFL. Since you mentioned the Celtics the Celtics before, um, I think like with sports, you get like what you put into the experience of being a fan, and I haven't, like I am so gay for this Boston Celtics season. Really the last three years. It was the pandemic that did it for me, and then me and the kids got super into the bubble, and uh, sports are are fun and I never mind like Bandwagon fans, like Bandwagon fans are great because they're not going to get the same enjoyment that the people that have been watching every game, whether it's just that season and or the people that have been watching every game for twenty seasons, really like get out what you want to put into it. And I have enjoyed this NBA season so much. We've, like me as a family, we've watched like three quarters of the games together at least part of it, like every playoff game. It's fun experience with them, and it's nice that it's not the NFL. You Dan get on me about the Patriots like that. I'm not really a Patriots fan anymore, and there is some truth to that. It's not the same like you're at work, like it's distracting. I love football and I but I just love it in a different way. I love like the players and different teams and rooting for things, and I don't feel the same sort of thing about my team, the Patriots. There's still the team I root for more, but it's not that like thing that makes you feel like a kid where you're just down to rise and fall with whatever happens, and then to go through that with your kids and see them to start going through it and stuff is just so awesome. So just the chance greg for the new England region to experience another championship with Well, I think that's true. We've had a four years here. Well, the Celtics have only one one in my life. In fairness, the Celtics have only won one since I was eight years old. So I'm just saying it felt like they've been rolling up titles. Um, but you're right, the Boston region doesn't the national standpoint, But I don't count that I was seven years old. Dan, your rebuttal to everything that Greg just my rebuttal. I feel bad that you were offended about Baker. I was responding to Colleen. I wasn't even thinking about everything that Greg says. I think that's great. I know exactly what you're talking about. Greg. That is like I'm watching everyone Knows listen to his podcast Knows. I'm a huge baseball fan. The Yankees are forty and sixteen, which is awesome, and we'll see how the season plays out down the end, and the Yankes are no one's just like the Celtics. No one's idea of an underdog franchise. But it was something I grew up loving, and my boys have fallen in love with baseball and watching baseball with me, it's different. And I think it's like when you work in sports. Um like I I love the Jets just as much as I did when I started the company, but it is different, like and once you are in the company, it's different. Once you're working in the league and covering the sport, it's different. So finding that other sport where you have no connection to a professionally, it almost makes it more rewarding and more fun to watch. Can I just ask real quick while we're on baseball corner why the Angels decided to play nickelback for every single player that went to the plate they were on. And I don't know what happened with the Red Sox and Angels yesterday, but they were on a twelve game losing streak, so they had fired their manager. And it's like one of the reasons I love baseball, it is like weird stupid things to try to change the tide. So they played like the worst rock band in the last tenty five years, and you walk up to try to like change the vibe. They lost and didn't score a run again, but when they did, the nickelbacks, so they're down. Well, I wouldn't never you don't pick Nickelback, but you know the Detroit Lions, Mark famously, we covered it on around the League way back in the day. The Detroit Lions once hired nickel Back to do a halftime show on Thanksgiving. So people have been making these mistakes for a long time. I'll throw one out there, Um, this is a projection. I'm more hoping this happens. Uh. The last two seasons have kind of sucked, but for a number of reasons, and literally, hey, well Corona right, Like I am I'm super gay for the consilation every show as like the gape on Like, yeah, that's like you're you're like stat boy except for gay Putts Mark. Sorry to interrupt, but I am super gay for the idea of a season we're not tracking Corona week by week and having like key players dropped out of the mix and having games on Wednesday night. I mean, last year it got us a lot closer to that. And I am guaranteeing that the pandemic never returns. Right now? WHOA wow, that's a there. That's amazing, right that Greg nothing well monkey Poks has sort of been. I mean, that's not trying to be a concharyon take. I'm just I'm giving the people in my opinion. It just happens that I always disagree with you, but you're on you're on board with that opinion. I like that, I mean, I like the hopefulness of it, and I'm for that. That's a good one. You want a football one, I go whatever. So Colleen, you're gonna have to brace yourself for this. But I'm actually gay for the Eagles, and I'm sure, but I've been very obviously. I didn't really didn't really care about the Eagles as a patsman, and that that's the Pats Homer and me. Once they beat us in the Super Bowl, us being the Patriots, I have made it my mission to make sure that they suffer. And I don't like it. But but looking at everything, all the hypes out of your what kind of impact would you say you had? What have you done? I've been like putting me an action step. I've been giving batteries to fans as they go into these states. So I didn't know anything about Philly sports fans until I met John and Connie, and they're crazy. And now now I've learned, if you really want to get them upset, you bring up the battery throw batteries, oh boo Santa, and they get so much I will lunch across this table right now and to strangle both. But as as unfortunately, you know, I'm taking a step back and I and as Greg always tells me, to be a professional, don't just think about the Patriots. The Jalen hurts I ever said you have multiple times? Actually, so the Jalen hurt type is real coming out of money camp right coming out? Thank you justin Oh are you coming saying as the gay someone Someone's got to say something, right, So DeVonta Smith had his breakout season last year. Right now they add a J. Brown to the list. Oh and also let's add Bradberry next to Slay on the day I am. I am excited. Sean Kelly is pumping his fist and I can actually do a vodka soda. Um. I'm excited to see this Eagles team this upcoming year. And I feel proud of myself for feeling I have a personal connection with Nick Sirianni right, we love him. Can I ask you a question as you leave the NFL, Ricky, Yeah, what will be your like? How plugged in will you be on the League of thirty two. I think I'll still such a passion. With all due respect, you didn't really football when you started. You came to the company as a Patriots fan, Yes, and then he spent what six years? Seven years? Yeah? When you exit the League of thirty two company, well you do you imagine you'll go back more to your viewing habits as Patriots fan or do you think now you'll take this with you and just be more into the league oft Yeah, that's that's interesting. I think I'll definitely be plugged in. I think my whole Twitter feed is is everyone. Um, I'm really I'm never gonna not be a Patriots fan ever, and that's never going to change. Um mc daddy is looking good in camp too. He's looking thick. Yeah, oh my god, he lust a little way and he's like beefed up. Oh it's so good. Um, Bill Belichick plaint Center, Hello, Daddy, Like, let's go, daddy, Daddy. So I'm excited about the Pats. I'm also l A you know, personal, I'll probably be plugged in on the l A teams just by living here, but you know, totally, I don't know, yeh, Connie, give us one more, Okay, do you want Super NFL or my like your hearty? Well, okay, So I am like I'm feeling gay for two running backs this season, Handmakers and Javante Williams. Like for Acres, I'm just excited for him to actually be healthy and himself because he had the injury, came back like miraculously for that regular season finale and through the playoffs, but like he still wasn't the same. So I feel like McVeigh loves him. He's gonna be great for that offense. I think he's going to do really well. But Javonte Williams, like that's my making the lead candidate. Gang had two things going against him last year. The fact that they didn't have a quarterback, um so defense is never never respected the past. And then also he was splitting carries with Melvin Gordon, which can't continue. Like I would imagine that Javante, they see how talent untied he is and they give him the lion's share of the work. But even just pff looking at his mis tackles, the fource mis tackles he had last year sixty three of them. That was second to only Jonathan Taylor, who had the most in the League sixty six and you think about all the work that Jonathan Taylor had last year. He had a hundred and twenty nine more carries than Javonte Williams. Javonte Williams is going to be a beast if they let him be a beast. Totally gay for them. See that for making the leap Okay, that's a great one. That's a that's a great observation NFL stuff this morning. I'm exhausted. It makes me think about like early period Nick Chubb. Yeah, where that podcast Let's go. This guy's super talented dude, and you know he kind of was breaking through, but what if he was made the feature guy? What would happen? And now you put him in a better situation fantasy hats and we got the Fantasy Travaganza coming up in a couple of months. I feel like he's going to be greggy. You built it brick by brick, rode a world. Javante Williams. Is he a top No? Well, you could probably check it out there that they've been doing these best ball drafts. I doubt it because not now because Melvin Gordon is there. Why Melvin Gordon is great, I mean great is maybe an exaggeration, but very very good. So why wouldn't you feature him a walk? Get them both? Yea for fantasy. Isn't there a big difference between those two guys though in terms of their ceiling? Yeah, but I think I'm I think most running backs he is getting taken in the top twenty there would not. I would not want him because I think would like come back Melvin Gordon. Like people just want to think he's not a good player, but he's good on all three downs. He's good in short yards, he's good on third down. Like you should. I sort of the mind you should always use multiple running backs if you have them, if you can. I'm with you, and I think it's gonna occur. I mean, how many Not to devolve into fantasy conversation, but it does feel like so many backfields are two headed down. The fact that he's in top fifteen is pretty talent. I think, I tell you exactly. It tells you that there is what what not? Just keep it pushing, Well, you can't do it like inside joke last with a microphone in your mouth. I'm sitting like a foot from her and hearing every little comments, and I'm the Mike is hearing everything too. Don't worry. That's what. That's all I'm saying. I think that's good to have on. Let's see what else I got here. That's a good one though, That was that was a good football. That was good because we haven't really talked about it, right, Mark famously um was really exciting kicked off our segment here last year by talking about Geo Geo Bernard's role. I'm third downs and I asked Mark this week because we had already kind of went back in memory lane about this and I and I'll ask you here, like, how was Geo Bernard's experience for you as a fan? Because you were so excited going into it. I think it's totally delivered in every possible way. I don't know whether there be any question about that. It was Wait, has Mark had any Wait? You had one? Only so so memorable? Greg has no concept in all? Right, where do I want to go with this? Let's see, here's my list, Baker comeback season. I have all the Jets are hot now literally. The Athletic reported that Michael la Fleur, according to Robert Salet, is way more jack this year after spending the off season in the gym, he's already How is that not a trope? So now we have just now we have quarterback went from two oh two to one shredded. We got the head coach who's basically like one of the hottest dudes alive. And then you have even the dudes cut what you don't think so? So? I mean that's a tai bar there, one of the hot Robert sala Is top ten hottest met alive. No, that is so not accurate. If they play like the season, maybe you know, and it doesn't work out, they can come here and sort of have like a all male reviewer something Boulevard. All the Jet now, all the just nine now is for Eric Decker to come out of retirement and it's the hottest team ever anyway, But that's not where I'm going. Let's see Josh McDaniels new daddy voice. You guys plugging on this that I have it all right, Let's hear the new zaddy voice. This isn't coming directly from Josh when it's from who is it? Brandon Bolden speaking on how Josh McDaniels has changed as someone who used to be in New England. Brandon Bolden and now he's like, oh, when he was the o C, but now he's the head coach the same he just says it a little more stern. Now. It's like if you was getting babysited by your older brother and now the parents are nowhere at home, you're stuck with your big brother for the weekend. It's kind of like that great And I was going to say, some of the big brother, you're just looking around for Danger. We have lost in case you get Danger has been up to the bar about five times. But now I don't even see him up. I will say, when I went to the bathroom, here in the mirror, it's carved Danger. I swear to go. He's the women's backroom. So you guys, because I knew you guys have done a lot of pushback on me about Mike McCarthy's Zadie energy, which I'm all in on, But now I'm saying Zadie energy for Josh McDaniels. You guys. He literally got the keys to the organization. He's walking around making, you know, the tuck rule jokes and all that. He thinks he's the hottest thing ever, and I kind of buy it. I don't know if I feel like if it needs to be pointed out that you're suddenly speaking with a more stern voice and you're being told that you're just an older brother while the actual parents are away. Like I it feels a little ironic to me that maybe he's not a total city checking out was just like making a joke to reporters and like we're gonna we don't need to dissect everything that they smart your take. I'm locked in on a little bit, But I also want to give Josh. You know, we're giving a shot here to clean up some things. It's been a little so I welcome the transformation. I'm just saying that the way that it was phrased kind of has some qualifiers to it, right, Like he's trying to play the part rather than actually is like he hasn't spoken with a stern voice in forty nine years, but suddenly now he's in a new role and he's changing his voice. It's like I can think of another coach that went south and changed their voice and took a lot of flak for it, like Daniel, Wait, what Bryan Kelly goes down suddenly at a country accent. I think most people know what I'm referring to. Yeah, I'm with you. Mark's not taking any ship today. I like it. You're talking about Brian Kelly, I am talking and then he was he was like from the Bayou Southern draw he adopted on the plane ride south. Like any time that anyone calls you out for like changing your voice or like being something that you're not is not good. Are we talking about Russell Wilson again? I'm gonna throw up, throwing out just because you're talking like the Jets being hotter and more fit, and I will show some of my fandom here, uh that I'm gay for Mac and I'm gay for this totally bizarre Patriots off season that everyone's hating. Now it's like gone on so long that I'm I'm countering that the fact that supposedly at practice they're doing all this zone uh run blocking stuff, and that they're like out of nowhere adopting like a Kyle Shanahan type Sean McVeigh offense, which apparently Bill Belichicks wanted to do forever, but like now there's no guardrails. It's just like Bill gone wild, Like when Josh McDaniels and Nikosia and everyone else were like, well, we didn't really have the personnel to do that, and you know, we're doing this and that. Now it's like Bills doing whatever the he wants. He's snapping the center, he's putting Patricia as the play caller. He's trying to be like Sean McVeigh on offense. He's got this underrated second year quarterback. And it all just seems like, uh messy in a way that the Patriots never are. But I'm embracing the mess I think than Josh McDaniels and gigantic d g a f right. I do kind of enjoy it. He's like he's like his his um longtime spouse from now this isn't this isn't the truth here, but like, let's just say he had a long time spouse. He has a girlfriend, we love Linda, but let's say that didn't happen where maybe he's embracing new uh frontiers. Maybe maybe he comes comes here for the Pride episode and at seventy realizes to live the way he wants to live. Go Shanahan, you know what I'm saying, that's a good take because it's way better than the alternative, is it right? But I'm kind of here for it even if it's super messy and it goes like horribly. I kind of different the Bill fell off right, It's it's out there as a possibility. But he's got this kid, He's got Mac Jones, who I truly do believe in. Um has a higher, much higher ceiling than anyone seems to want to give him credit for that. He could be a top ten quarterback this year, that he could be the next you know, very good quarterback. Let's go none of us. They're playing Sharon Osborne. This was a big song and um, you know around the NFL history because uh we were maybe we weren't all weren't there, but we were at the lesbian bar in Indianapolis with the Wesley brothers. You're just kinda guess what's the next song that is going to be played? And I put down? Man, I feel like a woman. This one. No, I put this one down was a karaoke it let's be on a karaoke. What if God was one of us? Joean Osborne? The next fine song, I take all that money. Greg is loose and we are not legally about love to gamble at the next drinking water. But at least it wasn't at a league event. That's true. That's true. Well, well why were in Indian Mark? What else do you got? Mark? I have a personal one that I am very gay for swimming, for aquatics, Like I just joined a pool and I went swimming yesterday for the first time, like in a lap pool and probably like twenties something years and it was very full, but it was me, and uh, you know, you have to share the lane with another person. It was a man who was like eighty eight years old and going like one mile an hour. So I kind of felt bad because I I destroyed him, but it was like, um, I think I have found the thing that I wanted to do with my body for the next couple there is something. There is a pattern emerging Mark with you in secondary sports where you come on our show and you explain you were at an event and then you dominated everyone else that was there, and there's never any other video or any other evidence out there, and we we take you on it. Because the first example was I destroyed my nine year old and tennis. Do you not find that feasible? I mean it's like he had never played twice. Now your wife was involved as well. You did you dismember the entire family. I'm merely I'm merely pointing out that some of these exploits don't have a lot of they're they're not cited with any evidence. What do you want me to do? Like the swim thing where you wear a cap and everyone does the same emotion. I think for the people that love swimming, it's almost like a religion. It's very peaceful, it's probably good for mental health, it's it's good for your addies. Certainly those swimmers bodies you know, don draper about it. And then and this is where the gay odd bood has been should step in. But this is asking for a lot. The Swimmer um is maybe one of the most and definitely one of the gayest short stories uh in American literature history. When they teach you short stories, they start with The Swimmer by John Cheever, who is a gay icon. He's on my top five list. Well, I think that book needs a sequel. We only have two. We need three more. Okay, rufus urfus Wow. I think that's that was great. That was I'm not a lost I'm happy for you. Marsawn bomb. Yeah, I don't know, maybe this isn't a bomb. Maybe you guys know this already. Better not be coming out of retirement or retiring there were there. Yeah, Jason Garrett will replace Drew Brees on NBC's NFL pregame show. It's like, I love these tris skits that I bought playing, not like the ones with the sprinkles on them, just plane trisk its, um, but I want something different. Yeah, they have triskits with lots of different flavors, but exact garlic whatever's in the studio. And it's like, I don't want I don't want main trist gits. I want to change it up. I'll get the mini triskts, you know. That's what I'll do, Mini trades. Understand this analogy you get. It's like you're both placing wonder bread with with another type of white bread. He's not like I don't care as much about the America. Okay, all right, well yeah that's a good update. I thought you said Marshawn. He meant Marshawn Lynch photo with the cleats on the wire. Like the Super Bowl in San Francisco, West had to stop down, stop watching the Super Bowl and write like a six word breaking news item on Marshawn Lynch coming back into the game, by the way, breaking news This from p f T who was called out by name twice by the way by Jack del Rio, which I that was my favorite part of the Jack del Rio press conference. How he disagreed with Mike Florio, Greg, you have much much to settle with your old boss and that will be an offseason. Well, this is one. This is one I loved. I know he loved it so um. According to Commander's head coach Ron Rivera, he said on Wednesday that he really likes Carson Wentz is command of our offense. He's getting ready because he believes that he can. He just might if we all pull together be ready to take command. As we all know, decided to really go ahead. And you know, after all the other stuff we talked about earlier in the show, I'm all the way back into sure, Arrow up, Arrow Up? Can I throw out one more thing? Um, I'm gay for if anything, just because I meant to tell Mark this and I'm just using this podcast to uh to give him a recommendation I think he'd like because he likes Mike you're a big Michael Man guy. Yes, I like Michael Man. Okay. The UM first episode of Tokyo Vice. What do they call the first episode? Why am I blanking? Pilot? The pilot of Tokyo Vice directed by Michael Man. He is the executive producer. It's set in the nineties underworld in Tokyo, uh and this the scene. The show is a lot of fun. I would recommend it to everyone. He doesn't direct every episode, he is an executive producer. But the show puts you in Tokyo. It made me want to go to Tokyo. I will be going in a couple of weeks. Shout out to Hedeco Wattanabe forgetting a lot of paperwork. They still haven't opened up the country, so I gotta get a visa. Whenever Greg suggests a book to me, it's been a home run. UM shows very similar and so I will watch it. And Michael Man also has been busy at work creating and writing Heat to the novel. So that's another one to put on your radar. But I think you would like the show too. I'm gay for Tokey Advices. It's fun. That's good. That's been on my list to get to it feels like there's so much stuff that it's almost too much. It's like they gotta figure it out. The the entertainment got in the senting. They gotta dial it back a little bit. They have to figure out like pacing, just like us to be like, you know what you're getting. You're getting original content from September to May and then a break and then you could catch up on reruns and all that stuff. We need to figure this out now for the digital world, the streaming wars, it's a barrage because we're just and then their move and maybe this is just interference they're running. It's like then you must sign up for everything to catch up, and then all of a sudden, you're like dropping twenty grand, you know, a year on streaming services. You guys got it. There's my take checked out of the show, by the way, and he's starting to eat the rest of his last that I was gave it. Is it true that Greg was flaunting his wealth on the latest episode of The Jesslyn Resio I really wasn't. I don't know why. She said, no more definitely less than playing backing music. Mommy, I said, it was like, oh it was great. It was great to finally uh get a nice bump. It wasn't too crazy. I think you used the words like, now I'm paid like a player. Finally? Is that true? Now? Are you sure I said I'm not played? I was like saying, kind of like when players talk about like that's a big day in their lives when they get a contract, when not that I'm paid like a player. But can we borrow your credit card? I wish? Yeah, sure, alright, let's anything. Let's let's like Greg eat his rap, Let's wrap it up? How long is the show? I really have wrapped it up? Is the one hour thirty two minutes? Any scoreboard for the gay pun um budsman? Like who had the most too? I think you you probably did unintentionally um, which was good. No. I think it was a good showing all around. I think everyone really stepped up to the plate. Fun. Second annual Pridecast with you around the NFL podcast is in the books a lot of fun. Keep doing it, Eric, You're no longer going to be with the company in a couple of days, but will you continue to come and visit us from time to time if your new employer allows it. Yes, I would absolutely love it, and I'm super thankful and grateful for the last you know. However, it's been so long at the NFL, and without you guys, and without you guys all pushing me to to do more, I wouldn't be getting offered these opportunities that I am right now. And so I am truthfully forever indebted and love you guys more than more than words could could say. To supers, were all say where you're going next? But um, it certainly seems like you're gonna absolutely destroy the position that you've been presented with. And I mean that in a good way, obviously, not take it down, but you buy it. Marks. I feel like we're maybe of similar minds the Sam Donald's corollary here, we want her to get to a certain level. I don't know if we were a similar minds where if she were to be successful, that it would keep me up at night the same way that I think it might keep you up at night. But to your own words, to your own words, do you want to announce it and bleep it? Um? I mean, what would the point be? But I don't feel good right? Everyone knows, but yeah, no, I um, so I am gonna be oh amazing. It's like I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, so I'm gonna be great at it. Thank you. I'm super super excited, um and blessed and grateful and it. But it wouldn't be without you guys. It's awesome. So happy to have you here, Ricky. Thank you to everybody in the house, uh, including Randy Chavez, the grave Digger, Shaun Kelly just on bodyguard duty uh today definitely getting paid by the NFL to just stand in West Hollywood at a bar. And I love that any thought, Sean Kelly. I just want to say thanks guys. I I love being a part of this gay for all of you guys and just just an amazing podcast and I'm blessed every day to be a part of it. Oh and also Colley told me, I have to say this, go Bird's best team in the NFL. We go Kevin Danger Hansas. Yes, we talked about the w f A n situation, but maybe revisit Mark and I know we'll be on the same page on this August and everything after, not just the singles, Omaha, rain King, Murder of One Sullivan Street. Maybe Kevin, let's go New York Rangers and also Erica Tamposey congratulates Bravo than you appeal I am, I am all right, Thank you everybody for listening. We will be back on Monday with a new app back in the Chris Westmon Podcast Studio. Thank you for listening and until then, heed that call, Put up yeah S.