"Scrooged" (1988) vs. "Christmas Vacation" (1989): Part 1

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<v Speaker 2>Put your balls on the world stage.
<v Speaker 1>Whack it way. We have got Scrooged with mister Bill Murray,
<v Speaker 1>and we've got Christmas Vacation with mister Chevy Chase. Where
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna put it? Podcast? This big bend over
<v Speaker 1>and I'll show you. Thank you.
<v Speaker 2>You t that up nicely for me.
<v Speaker 1>All right, So we need to jump into these two
<v Speaker 1>movies because there's just chock full of stuff. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to talk anymore. I just want
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Let's jump in right now. Let's start
<v Speaker 1>off with Scrooged. Okay, sure, Scrooged came out in eighty eight.
<v Speaker 1>Christmas Vacation came out in eighty nine, that's correct. Okay, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so we've got Scrooged came out first, and this was
<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray's return, and this is based on a Christmas
<v Speaker 1>Carol by Charles Dickens. Right, and I think that our
<v Speaker 1>normal listeners would expect me to go back to Charles
<v Speaker 1>Dickens' day. I was waiting for you were waiting for that, right,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go back that far. Okay, I'm
<v Speaker 1>going to go back to October third, nineteen twenty six,
<v Speaker 1>so almost that far, okay, okay, all right, okay, So
<v Speaker 1>October third, if you'll remember, that's my birthday. It was
<v Speaker 1>about nineteen twenty six, half a century or so before
<v Speaker 1>I was born. But anyway, another guy was born that
<v Speaker 1>day named Marty Simmons.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Marty Simmons grows up early twenties, gets a job as
<v Speaker 1>a newspaper reporter in New York City and his one
<v Speaker 1>of his main beats is to cover restaurants. And so
<v Speaker 1>this group of business investors comes to him and said, hey,
<v Speaker 1>we have got this idea where if you've got a
<v Speaker 1>membership to the club, you can just pay with credit.
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to use cash. And he's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really, I'm a cash guy. I don't need
<v Speaker 1>to do that, and like, we'll cut you in on
<v Speaker 1>the business. He's like, okay, tell me what you want
<v Speaker 1>to do. And so he went to several of these restaurants,
<v Speaker 1>got them to agree to this thing, and Marty Simmons,
<v Speaker 1>in February of nineteen fifty was the first person in
<v Speaker 1>the world to use a credit card.
<v Speaker 2>Really yes, okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>Now, Marty is a guy with many talents. He wrote
<v Speaker 1>obviously as a journalist. He started this business that they
<v Speaker 1>called the Diners Club. One of the founding members of
<v Speaker 1>the Diners Club, and about twenty five years later he
<v Speaker 1>gets involved with a publishing company called National Lampoon.
<v Speaker 2>Get out of Town.
<v Speaker 1>Marty Simmons is one of the key members of the
<v Speaker 1>National Lampoon organization. He was part of the National Lampoon Players.
<v Speaker 1>He was involved in that business. He expanded them to radio,
<v Speaker 1>to television, and of course to movies. And he was
<v Speaker 1>a part of National Lampoon Animal House, the original National
<v Speaker 1>Lampoon Vacation, and of course Christmas Vacation as well. Uh huh,
<v Speaker 1>But I said we were going to start off with Scrooge,
<v Speaker 1>didn't you did say that? Now I mentioned he was
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys that was with the National Lampoon Players. Well,
<v Speaker 1>one day one of those players comes up to him
<v Speaker 1>and he's the he's the business and they're like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta go. I can't keep working here.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go do something else. And he's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>we don't have an understudy for you. You can't just leave.
<v Speaker 1>We need you. And the guy's like, you know what,
<v Speaker 1>my younger brother he's really good. You should just use him.
<v Speaker 1>He's upstairs working at the radio anyway. And then guy's like, huh,
<v Speaker 1>I guess I mean can he act? And he goes like, well,
<v Speaker 1>let me have him audition for you and you'll see. Well,
<v Speaker 1>the guy that was leaving was Brian Doyle Murray and
<v Speaker 1>the guy that came in was mister Bill Murray. And
<v Speaker 1>that is how Bill Murray got his start at National Lampoon.
<v Speaker 1>I am coming at me. You know my whole night
<v Speaker 1>hold up, I swear.
<v Speaker 2>Now beat it. That is fantastic. You tea that up
<v Speaker 2>so nicely, So Brian Doral Murray. I was gonna bring
<v Speaker 2>this up later when we talked about casting. Yeah, he's
<v Speaker 2>in both of these movies. He is in both of
<v Speaker 2>these movies. He was in the original National Lampoon Vacation.
<v Speaker 2>He's in Caddyshack, which of course is full of National
<v Speaker 2>Lampoon folks. Yes, yes, including Bill Murray, Chevy Chase. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was it's all a fests there by
<v Speaker 2>the way, go check out our Caddyshack versus Happy Gilmour episode.
<v Speaker 2>We go into great detail about the beginnings of National Lampoon,
<v Speaker 2>which are fun.
<v Speaker 1>Go check that episode out.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so just a little bit more on Brian Dole Murray.
<v Speaker 1>You bring him up. He was lou in Caddy Shack.
<v Speaker 2>Huh, what's that? I say that? No fighting, But he
<v Speaker 2>plays mister Shirley Clark's boss and Christmas Vacation. He also
<v Speaker 2>plays Frank Cross's dad and Scrooged.
<v Speaker 1>But listen to this.
<v Speaker 2>In Vacation he plays the guy who rintsed them tense
<v Speaker 2>in Durango, Colorado. Yeah, same actor, different characters in the
<v Speaker 2>Vacation trilogy quadrilogy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeahever it might be. Yeah, And there are several throwbacks
<v Speaker 1>in Scrooge to some of those old movies, not the
<v Speaker 1>least of which is Bill Murray taking a drink and
<v Speaker 1>this is right after he's seen the ghost and he
<v Speaker 1>opens his mouth and a golf ball comes out. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I would say that there's even more like
<v Speaker 2>current event type of mentions in Scrooged. Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 2>you got Mary lou Retten, Yeah, you got Jamie Farr, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you got Buddy Whackett, Buddy hack It, Yes, you've got
<v Speaker 2>was it Alfalfa or spanking, and then you've got Bill
<v Speaker 2>Murray specifically saying that his vodka was poisoned by Chernobyl. Yep,
<v Speaker 2>so a lot of fun references for eighties kids who
<v Speaker 2>remember that time.
<v Speaker 1>You know, absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>I watched it with my son last night. He thought
<v Speaker 2>it was hilarious. He didn't have any idea who Mary
<v Speaker 2>lou Rettin was.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, did you know what Chernobyl was? Well, that's good,
<v Speaker 1>that's good. There you go. Okay, So screw starts off
<v Speaker 1>with a guy who was in the original skit for
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Live. Okay, not John Belushi, Yeah, the other guy.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, tell me about that.
<v Speaker 1>So very first skit, it's this cold open Saturday Night Live.
<v Speaker 1>John Belushi plays this foreign guy who seems to be
<v Speaker 1>going in for some language lessons, and the guy who's
<v Speaker 1>given them the language lessons is telling him some of
<v Speaker 1>the weirdest phrases.
<v Speaker 2>I am going to feed your fingertips to the wolverines.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to feed our fingertips to the wolverines. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>and then this guy has a heart attack, falls over
<v Speaker 1>and dies, and John Belushi, thinking this is part of
<v Speaker 1>the lesson, also has a heart attack and falls over
<v Speaker 1>the guys, Yes he does. Chevy Chase comes out as
<v Speaker 1>a stage manager and is the first one to say
<v Speaker 1>live from New York, it's Saturday Night. The guy who's
<v Speaker 1>playing the language teacher is a guy who's a writer
<v Speaker 1>for the show. He had come from National Lampoon and
<v Speaker 1>it's a guy named Michael o'donahue. Okay, as we were,
<v Speaker 1>you know, as we do, as we text our Patreon friends,
<v Speaker 1>David writes like, I hope you talk about this guy. So, David,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to not read the Saturday Night Live book
<v Speaker 1>that you have, but I can tell you that this
<v Speaker 1>guy had this idea back in the early eighties, maybe
<v Speaker 1>even back into the seventies, of doing another comedy dark
<v Speaker 1>style of a Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. Okay, I
<v Speaker 1>mean he wanted to scare the dickens out of people.
<v Speaker 1>Nobody gets that joke. Nobody gets me. Okay. So he
<v Speaker 1>writes this script. He shows it to Bill Murray. Later on,
<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray's like, it's not so good. And then things happen,
<v Speaker 1>you know, Saturday Night Left becomes big. Michael o'donahue has
<v Speaker 1>writing jobs that he continues to do. Then Ghostbusters happens,
<v Speaker 1>and Bill Murray is huge, right, and he decides to
<v Speaker 1>have his own serious movie called The Razor's Edge, which
<v Speaker 1>does very poorly. And so he is in this situation
<v Speaker 1>where he's got this outrageous fame. All of a sudden
<v Speaker 1>he's suddenly getting panned by the critics for this serious
<v Speaker 1>movie that he's done, and he basically decides to go
<v Speaker 1>into hiding. And after four years of being in hiding,
<v Speaker 1>not doing a single movie except a really small part
<v Speaker 1>in a movie called Little Shop of Horrors, which is fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Movie by his cameo is awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's great. He plays the masochistic patient of the
<v Speaker 1>Steve Martin Dennis. Yes, absolutely brilliant. And by the way,
<v Speaker 1>in case I forget it, it comes up at the
<v Speaker 1>end of Scrooged a little part when he's doing when
<v Speaker 1>he's doing his little weird you know ad lib, he says,
<v Speaker 1>feed me seed more right at the end of the movie.
<v Speaker 2>Quick question for you, Yes, have you ever seen Ghostbusters?
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>How many times? Million times?
<v Speaker 1>A bunch?
<v Speaker 2>How many times you've seen razeis Age zero times. I've
<v Speaker 2>never seen racists, never seen.
<v Speaker 1>Rach I would watch it I'm curious to see what
<v Speaker 1>a pil curious, serious piece would be.
<v Speaker 2>I really would, but I mean, in thirty five years,
<v Speaker 2>I've never got around to it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, another side note, just throw it over to Christmas
<v Speaker 1>Vacation real quick. Jonathan Johnny Gilicky Yeah believe is how
<v Speaker 1>you pronounced his last name? Yeah? Yeah, thirteen years old,
<v Speaker 1>first comedy he's ever done, first big picture that he's
<v Speaker 1>ever done. He said that chevy Chase would like point
<v Speaker 1>at him for when he was supposed to say his line, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to, you know, and he was just he
<v Speaker 1>and he appreciated. He's like I was thirteen, I didn't
<v Speaker 1>know comic timing, and Chevy Chase was a master at
<v Speaker 1>comic timing. Right. He has shown it to him, and
<v Speaker 1>chevy Chase kind of took him under his wing. They'd
<v Speaker 1>have lunch together and occasionally Chevy be like, let's get
<v Speaker 1>out of here, and they would go to different sets.
<v Speaker 1>So they went to Harlem Knights. Yeah, Richard Pryor Eddie
<v Speaker 1>Murphy comes up and scrooged.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, one of the funniest lines in the movie.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm sorry, you know, I thought Richard Pryor and
<v Speaker 1>also they go and visit the set of Ghostbusters too. Really, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's fantastic. There are all kinds of ties in this movie,
<v Speaker 1>and we usually do this at the beginning, we talk
<v Speaker 1>about the various ties. Yeah, and obviously we've got Brian
<v Speaker 1>Doyle Murray as a huge one. But maybe maybe the
<v Speaker 1>biggest one is the house.
<v Speaker 2>We talked about this in our Diehard Versus Lethal Weapon episode.
<v Speaker 2>This was shot on the Warner Brothers lot, So this
<v Speaker 2>entire movie is shot in la and it's snowy and
<v Speaker 2>looks like Chicago. That's movie magic. Todd and Margo obviously
<v Speaker 2>lived next door to the Griswolds. The Griswolds live next
<v Speaker 2>door to the Murta house in Lethal Weapon one, two, three,
<v Speaker 2>and four. Yes, it's Todd and Margo's house is also
<v Speaker 2>the Murta's house. So Todd Margo conceivably had to fix
<v Speaker 2>the toilet that got blown up from leth Weapon two.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So why is that important? Because Richard Donner, the
<v Speaker 1>director of Lethal Weapon, is also the guy who directed Scrooged.
<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good. By the way, I gotta throw
<v Speaker 2>this for those of you who like our stuff and
<v Speaker 2>follow us or whatever. We have covered Ghostbusters two with
<v Speaker 2>our friends at the Film by podcast YEP. Jeff and Brad.
<v Speaker 2>We are on their podcast covering Ghostbusters two. If you
<v Speaker 2>want to catch that, it's a really good one, a
<v Speaker 2>lot of fun. Go over there and check them out.
<v Speaker 1>Guys. I just got to say, some of those episodes
<v Speaker 1>that we've done with those guys are some of my favorites,
<v Speaker 1>especially the Ghostbusters two And that was our first one
<v Speaker 1>together and we got done with that one was like,
<v Speaker 1>that was fantastic. Yeah, those guys are great. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it was just a very very enjoyable experience to do
<v Speaker 1>that podcast. Please go check out, go subscribe a film
<v Speaker 1>by podcast YEP.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I've got one more connection between these
<v Speaker 2>two movies that want to bring up. Okay it's a
<v Speaker 2>small one though, Okay, but since we're making broad connections,
<v Speaker 2>so in Scrooge, Yes, Bill Murray's secretary, her name is Grace.
<v Speaker 1>Oh what Grace? She died thirty years ago, blasting yes,
<v Speaker 1>that actress is from Tulsa, Oklahoma with Juffy she is
<v Speaker 1>from Tulsa. That he did not know that not the
<v Speaker 1>Betty Boop actress the Woodard Yeah yeah, yeah, Oklhoma.
<v Speaker 2>How about that.
<v Speaker 1>You guys may have passed in the street and you
<v Speaker 1>had no idea.
<v Speaker 2>We've probably been to Woodland Hills Mall at the same time,
<v Speaker 2>probably half.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've we've sidetracked a little bit. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>So back to Michael o'donahue. He is a hot tempered
<v Speaker 1>He's a strange dude, right, He's a strange dude. When
<v Speaker 1>we were talking text wise, I was like, Okay, this
<v Speaker 1>guy has had zero successful films other than this film. Like,
<v Speaker 1>he's got scrooged, he's got all of the Saturday Night
<v Speaker 1>Live stuff. But he did write a little movie called
<v Speaker 1>tar Zoom, which is an X rated cartoon from the
<v Speaker 1>mid seventies. Oh my gosh. Yeah, my Google search history
<v Speaker 1>has to be deleted after we do some of these research.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, so Michael donahue has written the script. Bill Barry
<v Speaker 1>wasn't interested. But now, four years after his time Ghostbusters,
<v Speaker 1>with just a brief cameo in the Little Shop of
<v Speaker 1>fourst He's like, you know what, that movie sounds interesting again,
<v Speaker 1>let me see it. Oh, I forgot. There's one more
<v Speaker 1>cameo that you probably don't remember because it wasn't in
<v Speaker 1>a movie. It was in a video, and it was
<v Speaker 1>a video by a guy we in the eighties knew
<v Speaker 1>as Buster Poindexter.
<v Speaker 2>That's right.
<v Speaker 1>Now. If you're if you're maybe ten years twenty years
<v Speaker 1>older than us, you might remember this guy as the
<v Speaker 1>lead singer for the New York Dolls.
<v Speaker 2>David Johansson, Buster Poindexter, Same guy, same guy.
<v Speaker 1>This is loungejack. Personality is Buster Poindexter, and you will remember,
<v Speaker 1>probably most prominently, no matter what age you are, his
<v Speaker 1>rendition of the song Hot Hot, Hot Hot. By the way,
<v Speaker 1>he calls this the bane of his existence because it's
<v Speaker 1>like karaoke and all of the other it's just like,
<v Speaker 1>h I'm just so sorry I did the song. Now,
<v Speaker 1>he probably made a bajillion dollars from doing the song,
<v Speaker 1>but I sent you the video last night, and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, check out who shows up at one minute
<v Speaker 1>and fifty seven seconds in.
<v Speaker 2>Mister Bill Murray.
<v Speaker 1>Mister Bill freaking Murray shows up And there's his other
<v Speaker 1>cameo before this movie. Now, as it turns out, I'm
<v Speaker 1>just kinda learned this today, Buster Poindexter David Johansson. He
<v Speaker 1>has the part of Christmas Past in this movie. Right, Well,
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't originally supposed to go to him. This is
<v Speaker 1>mind blowing the actor that it was supposed to go to.
<v Speaker 1>And just just close your eyes and imagine this, if
<v Speaker 1>you will. It was supposed to go to mister Sam Kennison.
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine perfect I can see it. I can
<v Speaker 1>definitely see it. And I think that David Johanson did
<v Speaker 1>a fantastic job with it. I mean he's a very
<v Speaker 1>I think he played it well, very New York style,
<v Speaker 1>and he's a guy from New York. Something makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Sam Kinison's kind of a Southern boy, so
<v Speaker 1>it's a little it would be a different, different character
<v Speaker 1>entirely Sam Kennison.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Yeah, by the way, and that makes
<v Speaker 2>more sense when you look at the broad picture.
<v Speaker 1>You've got a.
<v Speaker 2>Big comedian, Bill Murray, You've got Bobcat Goldthwaite, you know,
<v Speaker 2>plugged in to carry the comedic weight, right.
<v Speaker 1>Well, Sam Kennison was really upset that he didn't get
<v Speaker 1>this part, and then when his buddy Bobcat Goldthwaite gets
<v Speaker 1>a part in the movie, he's even more for us.
<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, I didn't hear that story. Yeah, let's back
<v Speaker 2>up for just a second. Yeah, Bill Murray, when you
<v Speaker 2>said he was hiding out, he was in France, like
<v Speaker 2>living in Paris. He thought about giving up acting altogether.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>When I think about that, I'm like, Okay, Bill Murray
<v Speaker 2>was hotter than hot. In fact, I read a note
<v Speaker 2>that said when they were building the idea of doing Scrooge,
<v Speaker 2>they said, there's two guys that can carry this movie.
<v Speaker 2>They paid Bill Murray six million dollars to do this.
<v Speaker 2>The only other person at the time that was hot
<v Speaker 2>enough to handle this Eddie Murphy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was doing his own thing with Harlem Knights.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we would have missed out on what about
<v Speaker 2>Bob Ghostbusters two? The ed Wood character. That's hilarious, Just
<v Speaker 2>a lot of parts that Bill Murray. It was awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Inn Just just keep in mind that six million dollar figure.
<v Speaker 1>For the time, he made more money than the director,
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the cast and the writers combined. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>So originally slated to direct was Sidney Pollock, okay, who
<v Speaker 1>had worked with Bill Murray before, but it was in
<v Speaker 1>TUTSI oh, yeahmates, he's the roommate. Sidney Pollack directed that movie,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember what the reason was. But Sidney
<v Speaker 1>Pollack had to bow out, and so they went with
<v Speaker 1>another big director up and coming. Really but I mean,
<v Speaker 1>he had done Superman, he had done the Omen and
<v Speaker 1>he was he had done Goonies, he had done Goonies
<v Speaker 1>and Leith the Weapon and Leath the Weapon, which at
<v Speaker 1>that point, I don't know that anybody really had the
<v Speaker 1>idea who he was with Lethal Weapon. I mean it
<v Speaker 1>was like, I think he got that job before Lethal
<v Speaker 1>Weapon had exploded onto the scene like it had. But
<v Speaker 1>he gets slated to direct and he's a little unsure.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I've never done a comedy before. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>obviously Lethal Weapon has its comedic moments, but not a
<v Speaker 1>full blown comedy like this one is. But I gotta
<v Speaker 1>say he knocked it out of the park. His comedy
<v Speaker 1>in this movie, with the timing of like the very
<v Speaker 1>unsettling zombie scenes and you know, mice coming out of
<v Speaker 1>people's skulls and followed up by something that's absolutely hysterical,
<v Speaker 1>is brilliant, Absolutely brilliant. Richard Donner can do all the
<v Speaker 1>comedies he wants to do.
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I'm glad that you touched on that
<v Speaker 2>because you take a super funny improv, you know, Second
<v Speaker 2>City type performance by Bill Murray, and you add some
<v Speaker 2>really cool special effects dangling him outside the window, and
<v Speaker 2>then the Christmas futures the skeleton with the guys running
<v Speaker 2>around his body. You know, we watched him Quinn Quinn's like,
<v Speaker 2>whoa dude.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I happen to see the Japanese poster
<v Speaker 1>for this particular movie. Yeah, and it's got a picture
<v Speaker 1>of Bill Murray down at the bottom and it's like
<v Speaker 1>there's a laser coming out of his hand, like he's
<v Speaker 1>Emperor Palipatine or something, and it's zooming up to the
<v Speaker 1>sky where it's like the ghules that are in the
<v Speaker 1>chest of Christmas future. Like it's not at all related
<v Speaker 1>to the movie. It's just kind of this weird take.
<v Speaker 1>And then there's another one from Australia where it's got
<v Speaker 1>like the three ghosts up above him and he's still
<v Speaker 1>smoking the cigar. But the tagline is basically now it's
<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray against three ghosts, which is obviously a Ghostbuster's reference.
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about that. Since you brought it up, I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead and say this. Yeah, the poster for
<v Speaker 2>the movie scrooged and the poster for movie Christmas Vacation
<v Speaker 2>to the worst in the eighties. I hate them both, really, yes,
<v Speaker 2>tell me why. On Scrooge, you got Bill Murray's giant
<v Speaker 2>face and he's making this goofy look and his hair's
<v Speaker 2>crazy and it's drawn, it's not a picture, and he's
<v Speaker 2>lighting a cigar that's being lit by a skilled just bad.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't tell you anything about the movie at all,
<v Speaker 1>and it's not particularly engaging.
<v Speaker 2>No, and it's just it's just a draw. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's like somebody drew it, you know, and somebody an
<v Speaker 2>art class, you know, and second semester.
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, and the one for Christmas Vacation looks even
<v Speaker 1>more construct Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now you compare that to the original of a vacation
<v Speaker 2>poster where he's you know, it's got Christy Brinkley and
<v Speaker 2>Beverly D'Angelo and he's kind of muscled up and he
<v Speaker 2>looks like a champion. You know.
<v Speaker 1>It's a play on the Conan barbarian barbarian poster, right,
<v Speaker 1>And that one's fantastic, it's awesome, it's fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>And then you have a second semester art student in
<v Speaker 2>charge of this one. It looks terrible.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, two portly done posters for two great movies.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I saw an alternate poster for Christmas
<v Speaker 2>Vacation in Europe. I don't really get this, okay, so
<v Speaker 2>let me paint this picture for you. So it's Christmas Vacation.
<v Speaker 2>He's being shocked by Christmas lights and he's wearing a
<v Speaker 2>Santa's get up.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>In this European poster I saw, it's called Holiday Vacation,
<v Speaker 2>no Santa get up, and he's just wearing like a coat.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's the weirdest thing. He's still getting shocked. It
<v Speaker 2>just they changed his clothes and it's really weird. Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So back to Richard Donner for a second. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>thought this was really interesting. He had some complimentary things
<v Speaker 2>to say about Bill Murray, says one of the most
<v Speaker 2>creative guys he's worked with, but he's off the rails.
<v Speaker 2>He's difficult to direct.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>When you ask Bill Murray his experience in this movie,
<v Speaker 2>he say it was a misery the entire time, and
<v Speaker 2>he and Donner disagreed about everything all the time, constantly.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>One of the things he said, Donner kept telling him
<v Speaker 2>to do it again and do it louder, and Bill
<v Speaker 2>Murray said, I just think he was deaf. One more
<v Speaker 2>tidbit on Richard Donner. He used to direct Gillingdon's Island. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>there's a trivia question in the movie.
<v Speaker 1>What boat do they take to Gillingdon's Island?
<v Speaker 2>And the whole time Bill Murray's like, you know this.
<v Speaker 1>This is easy. Nice. I toldly missed that connection. Nice one.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good one, thank you. Okay, so kind of
<v Speaker 1>talked about how Scrooge came into being. Let's jump over
<v Speaker 1>to Christmas Vacation. Burns some dust here, Rubbert. So this
<v Speaker 1>one's another great story. We have our eighties beloved writer
<v Speaker 1>and director of all time, mister John Hughes. Now, the
<v Speaker 1>original story was in National Lampoon magazine, and this was
<v Speaker 1>actually the second story. First vacation story was National Lampoon's
<v Speaker 1>Vacation that became the movie. Then the second story in
<v Speaker 1>the magazine came out December nineteen eighty and that was
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas version written by John Hughes, who then of
<v Speaker 1>course wrote the script for this movie as well. Right now,
<v Speaker 1>John Hughes had found this guy that we've talked about
<v Speaker 1>before in our Grimlins episode. Yeah, and He says, hey, dude,
<v Speaker 1>I'd like you to come direct this new Christmas movie
<v Speaker 1>that I've written. And that guy's name was Chris Columbus,
<v Speaker 1>and the new movie was Christmas Vacation, right, and a
<v Speaker 1>lot of you are going to be right now going
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know Chris Columbus directed Christmas Vacation, and you
<v Speaker 1>would be right. He did not. He did not Before
<v Speaker 1>one the aim of film was shot. Chris Columbus, despite
<v Speaker 1>the fact that this was his first opportunity to direct
<v Speaker 1>and he was dying to direct a movie. He calls
<v Speaker 1>up John Hughes to say, I don't think I can
<v Speaker 1>work with Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase had from the outset
<v Speaker 1>made his life a living hell, thought he was inexperienced,
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to work with him, had this other guy
<v Speaker 1>in mind that he wanted to work with, and basically
<v Speaker 1>he could see the writing on the wall. This was
<v Speaker 1>not going to work. He calls John Hughes ready to quit,
<v Speaker 1>and before he can even say what he wants to say,
<v Speaker 1>John Hughes says, Hey, you know what, I don't think
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna fit right with this movie, but I've got
<v Speaker 1>another movie that I think you'd be perfect for So
<v Speaker 1>it's this really beautiful like, hey, I know what you're
<v Speaker 1>about to say, and it's okay, right, what a great
<v Speaker 1>thing to do for this guy. And then of course
<v Speaker 1>the movie that he gets to do is Home Alone.
<v Speaker 2>No, man, it's so incredible. John Hughes knew Chevy Chase
<v Speaker 2>was tough to work for. Yeah, and Chris Columbus is not.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was a screenwrid. He wrote Grimlins, he
<v Speaker 2>wrote Goonies. Yeah, I mean, this guy is an up
<v Speaker 2>and coming major talent.
<v Speaker 1>So he had done a couple of movies before this.
<v Speaker 1>He had done Adventures in Babysitting in eighty seven, and
<v Speaker 1>he did Heartbreak Hotel, which of course was at the
<v Speaker 1>same time that this was going out. And you remember
<v Speaker 1>he was super excited to meet Hoyt Axton on the
<v Speaker 1>set of Grimlins because Hoyt Axton his mom had written
<v Speaker 1>Heartbreak Hotel.
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's right.
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, he did Adventures in Babysitting before Home Alone
<v Speaker 1>ultimately materialized, and Heartbreak Hotel, which was kind of a
<v Speaker 1>disappointing thing. And so this was kind of when Christmas
<v Speaker 1>Vacation was out there. It was like, this may be
<v Speaker 1>your last shot. Buddy. But then he gets home alone
<v Speaker 1>and with a lower budget than Christmas Vacation, it rakes.
<v Speaker 2>It in, blows the floors off, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Mind blowing.
<v Speaker 2>How big that movie was, Oh yes, humongous. And then
<v Speaker 2>ultimately he gets the Harry Potter movies.
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, just talk about a million things that
<v Speaker 1>he's done. But yeah, yes, absolutely, missus doubt fire nine months,
<v Speaker 1>step mom.
<v Speaker 2>So in steps this guy named Jeremiah Chechnik. Now, then
<v Speaker 2>I looked at his IMDb page. I don't know a
<v Speaker 2>lot about this guy. He hadn't done very much. But
<v Speaker 2>the one thing that stood out to me that he
<v Speaker 2>had done one thing the music video for Van Halen's
<v Speaker 2>when It's Love.
<v Speaker 1>That's it.
<v Speaker 2>To me, that was the biggest thing on his resume before.
<v Speaker 1>This, before this, yeah, right now, he did a few
<v Speaker 1>movies after this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But to go from that to this.
<v Speaker 1>He did a couple movies after this. I mean, he's
<v Speaker 1>done several things. He's still he's still right, he's still
<v Speaker 1>making stuff. But our audience will be familiar with Benny
<v Speaker 1>and June. Yeah. Well, I mean that was a huge
<v Speaker 1>one for Johnny DApp Yes, and then he did this
<v Speaker 1>movie called diabolic which he almost won the Worst Director
<v Speaker 1>of the Year award for but lost out to Gus
<v Speaker 1>van Zandt, who did the remake of Psycho.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's Diabolique.
<v Speaker 1>You say so, buddy, Okay, I didn't getch that.
<v Speaker 2>That's okay. So when they went to John Hughes, he said,
<v Speaker 2>you know what, guys, I'm kind of done with the
<v Speaker 2>Griswold story and I'll do this third one. If we
<v Speaker 2>can think of some idea that's really good, I'll sticker
<v Speaker 2>out if it's really good. And to me, this kind
<v Speaker 2>of tells how great of a writer he is, because
<v Speaker 2>he forgets about Christmas fifty nine, like he's put out
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, and when he's kind of going through
<v Speaker 2>his old stuff, he's like, oh, yeah, Christmas fifty nine. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's a good idea.
<v Speaker 1>Christmas fifty nine. By the way, just because we didn't
<v Speaker 1>clarify it, that's the name of the story from National
<v Speaker 1>Lampoon that came out in nineteen eighty. Yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>this is we're talking about eight years later when he's
<v Speaker 1>looking at this. From what I understand, there were pages
<v Speaker 1>coming in every day and they were doing a lot
<v Speaker 1>of things on the fly. Now you talked about the
<v Speaker 1>fact that Jeremiah Chechnik had only.
<v Speaker 2>Done Ben Halenalen.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Before that time, he had directed some commercials as well,
<v Speaker 1>but I mean this was his first filming job. And
<v Speaker 1>do you know what the first thing that they filmed
<v Speaker 1>what it's the first scene in the movie where the
<v Speaker 1>station wagon goes underneath the logger truck. And I mean,
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine a harder scene to film on your
<v Speaker 1>very first day? He was like, I was sure somebody
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna die and this would be the end of
<v Speaker 1>my career before it ever started. Yeah, But fortunately they
<v Speaker 1>had a guy on set who was a fantastic stunt driver.
<v Speaker 1>His name was Dick Zycker. Okay, they called him z Man,
<v Speaker 1>but he was an absolute pro and he was just
<v Speaker 1>able to go at the exact same speed slide that
<v Speaker 1>car under there. And that first scene is so perfect,
<v Speaker 1>because how are you going to have a driving scene
<v Speaker 1>in a Christmas vacation movie that's supposed to take place
<v Speaker 1>at the house of the Griswolds, right, sure, sure, well,
<v Speaker 1>because they're driving out to get the treat, but you've
<v Speaker 1>got to have that tie in. By the way, they
<v Speaker 1>asked Lindsay Buckingham to write a song for this one,
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, I don't want to be known
<v Speaker 1>as the soundtrack for vacation guy.
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the only vacation movie that doesn't have holiday
<v Speaker 2>road in it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, you talked about it, but that scene
<v Speaker 2>was shot in Breckenridge, Colorado.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all of the scenes that they needed lots of
<v Speaker 1>snow for they went and shot at Breckinridge because Breckenridge
<v Speaker 1>always has snow early. Well, they come to Breckinridge, they
<v Speaker 1>show up and no snow. Uh huh. So they're like,
<v Speaker 1>oh crap, and so they have to make their own snow, right.
<v Speaker 1>They make a lot of snow, and then as soon
<v Speaker 1>as they get it all laid out, a snowstorm comes
<v Speaker 1>in and it doesn't stop snowing the entire time that
<v Speaker 1>they're there.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been to Breckridge and I've been to Chicago.
<v Speaker 2>I've noticed that the Rocky Mountains are not in Chicago.
<v Speaker 1>We don't know how far they drove.
<v Speaker 2>Yes for The Grid World Family Christmas.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that kind of does it for the beginnings
<v Speaker 1>of these movies. Let's talk about the casting, all right.
<v Speaker 2>So the cast of Scrooge is fantastic. You've got Bill
<v Speaker 2>Murray's return. You've got Karen Allen, who we fell in
<v Speaker 2>love with as Marion Ravenwood from Raiders of the Lost Stars.
<v Speaker 1>She's like a little like a little warm hug. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>she's just so pleasant, like she's a very different character
<v Speaker 1>than Mary and Ravenwood, and she's got just a warm,
<v Speaker 1>lovely smile.
<v Speaker 2>So now you've got John Forsyth as Lou Hayward. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>John Forsyth from Dynasty. Yes, this guy is awesome in
<v Speaker 2>this movie. You've got to play this pretty well straight. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And he's crusty and all he doesn't have any eyeballs
<v Speaker 2>and he is dusty, dirty and pulled out of the
<v Speaker 2>grave once again.
<v Speaker 1>The brilliance behind the comedy is to hire straight actors
<v Speaker 1>for most of the part. That's right. Yeah, And I
<v Speaker 1>got to say one of the guys that I don't
<v Speaker 1>even think about until I watched this movie, but when
<v Speaker 1>he comes on, he's just like this burst of energy
<v Speaker 1>and he really engages the movie and is such a
<v Speaker 1>great character. And that's John Glover playing Bryce Chris Cummings. Right. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's like my lacrosse coach used to tell me, there
<v Speaker 1>is no I in team. That guy is brilliant. I
<v Speaker 1>love him. He's funny.
<v Speaker 2>And then the just the subtle looks that Bill Murray
<v Speaker 2>gives the camera and you know.
<v Speaker 1>They you would absolutely hate to be around this guy.
<v Speaker 1>He plays the obnoxiously friendly guy. Would see. Let's talk
<v Speaker 1>about Bobcat Goldthwaite for a second. Why did he have
<v Speaker 1>only shaky stuff? Why don't you know that? Because that's
<v Speaker 1>a character. His stand up guy was a character. And
<v Speaker 1>this movie is our first opportunity to see Bobcat Goldthwaite
<v Speaker 1>just being Bob. I thought he was perfect.
<v Speaker 2>He's a little bit scared, but he's you know, brave
<v Speaker 2>enough to kind of take on the boss in a
<v Speaker 2>few scenes, you know, Yeah, that scene when he's running
<v Speaker 2>around the shotgun going you a better watch out?
<v Speaker 1>Hello wet.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fantastic that the Ghost of Christmas Future
<v Speaker 1>gets interrupted by bobcat Golf. Yeah that's right, right, I
<v Speaker 1>mean he's louder Milk. Is his character's name, Ellie Loudermilk. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be going like he's supposed to be
<v Speaker 1>taking Bill Murray into this frightening termifying hell experience. But
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, hold on, there's the shotgun here.
<v Speaker 2>I'll wait when Loudermilk gets fired. That scene was hilarious
<v Speaker 2>because he's like, you know, I think you're a bit
<v Speaker 2>off base right there. And he's like, fire that man immediately,
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, but sir, it's Christmas. He's like, thank you,
<v Speaker 2>call it county and cancel his bonus, right, and then
<v Speaker 2>he watches from the telescope they toss him out on
<v Speaker 2>his butt.
<v Speaker 1>He's like, he's laughing. Yeah, you hate this guy right
<v Speaker 1>off the bat right four and a half minutes.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, So we've already talked about David Johansson as
<v Speaker 2>the Ghost of Christmas Past, even though he does a
<v Speaker 2>fantastic job.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm surprised he didn't do more stuff. He's
<v Speaker 1>got a very character he face. I don't know why
<v Speaker 1>he didn't do more. Honestly, maybe he's just living off
<v Speaker 1>the royalties of Hot.
<v Speaker 2>Hot, Hot, probably, so he's probably embarrassed to see those
<v Speaker 2>ridiculous weird ears that he has to wear in this movie,
<v Speaker 2>or the teeth or the green teeth. Yeah, alright, but
<v Speaker 2>Carol Caine as the Ghost of Christmas Present is my
<v Speaker 2>absolute favorite character in this entire movie. Sometimes you have
<v Speaker 2>to just to get that attention. Yeah, and I'm taking
<v Speaker 2>on my buddy Jeff Johnson because he kind of was like, gosh,
<v Speaker 2>she's so annoying. I'm like, yeah, but that's the whole point.
<v Speaker 1>She's supposed to be annoying. His crab.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so sweet that she makes your teeth shirt right right,
<v Speaker 2>But the violence, of course that goes.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's sweet mixed with violence. And that, by
<v Speaker 1>the way, was how Richard Donner can miss her to
<v Speaker 1>be in the part. He's like, this is gonna be
<v Speaker 1>like Glinda the Good Witch, except she's extremely extremely violent.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, that sounds like a fantastic part to play.
<v Speaker 1>And then Bill Murray tells her. He's like, I want
<v Speaker 1>you to really hit me. I want you to really like,
<v Speaker 1>don't hold back. Yeah, give it to me. And so
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those scenes she's really smacking the crap
<v Speaker 1>out of him. And you'll remember there's one part where
<v Speaker 1>she grabs his bottom lip and like pulls it down.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, fine, slap me in the face, but you kicked
<v Speaker 2>me in a wall.
<v Speaker 1>They had to stop filming because she basically ripped the
<v Speaker 1>little tissue that holds the teeth the to the lip
<v Speaker 1>off of Bill Murray for like four days they shut
<v Speaker 1>down production. Yeah yeah, I mean there were a couple
<v Speaker 1>that was that was the injury and screw huge. There
<v Speaker 1>was another on Christmas Vacation. Chevy Chase is beating up
<v Speaker 1>all of the Santa and the reindeer and all that.
<v Speaker 1>When he punches the Santa. When you see him punch
<v Speaker 1>the Santa, he breaks his pinky.
<v Speaker 2>Fever, I know. And then he improves where he karate
<v Speaker 2>chops the antlers off and stuff. He wasn't supposed to
<v Speaker 2>do that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's He's like, well, my hand's hurt. I guess
<v Speaker 1>I'll start kicking. Really.
<v Speaker 2>Carol Caine though, as the Glinda Goodwitch when she puts
<v Speaker 2>that glitter X on his cheek and then the first
<v Speaker 2>time I saw this, I could not stop laughing. She
<v Speaker 2>beats the crap out of him.
<v Speaker 1>You cloth, I'm through well, and they've got the uh.
<v Speaker 1>They got the other brothers of Bill Murray in this
<v Speaker 1>movie as well. I don't know if there's another movie
<v Speaker 1>where all four brothers are in the same thing, so
<v Speaker 1>I think this is the only one. But the scene
<v Speaker 1>where she's hitting where Carol Caine is hitting him with
<v Speaker 1>the toaster, Like Joel Murray said, he thought, oh my gosh,
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna hit him every time. He was like, she
<v Speaker 1>was just barely missing him every time. But there's this
<v Speaker 1>scene where she's doing little ballerina toes. She's working around. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>she practiced four months to get the ballerina top point,
<v Speaker 1>like really went to ballet classes to get this down.
<v Speaker 1>And she got kind of upset because when she did it.
<v Speaker 1>Richard Donner thought it was absolutely hysterical. Yes, so she's like,
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to do the best that I could.
<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious.
<v Speaker 2>Keep going. Yeah, she was awesome.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was really good.
<v Speaker 2>Back to John, Joel and Brian Murray real quick. So,
<v Speaker 2>Brian Doyle Murray, you've seen him a million things, Wayne's World,
<v Speaker 2>Caddie Shack Vacation. We already talked about him. Of course,
<v Speaker 2>Bill Murray has been and everything.
<v Speaker 1>John Murray was in an.
<v Speaker 2>Eighties classic, Moving Violations, which I love. It's kind of
<v Speaker 2>like a police Academy type of movie. Okay, John Murray
<v Speaker 2>is the star of that movie, Moving Violation.
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So John Murray is the Mark Harmon to Steve
<v Speaker 1>Gutenberg's Kevin cost.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. That's a complicated math, right there.
<v Speaker 2>Joel Murray was in One Crazy Summer with Bobcat Goldway.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right there, you go.
<v Speaker 2>Some connections to some eighties classics.
<v Speaker 1>There, all right, who else? We've got some big hitter
<v Speaker 1>actors in this one. You've already mentioned John Forthscyth, but
<v Speaker 1>we also have Robert Mitchum.
<v Speaker 2>Robert freaking Mitcham.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, talk about an icon. I mean, he's
<v Speaker 1>There are too many movies to mention. One of my
<v Speaker 1>favorites is Cape Fear, but he is an icon of
<v Speaker 1>the early twentieth century movies, and here he comes in
<v Speaker 1>as this kind of ridiculous executive who wants to do
<v Speaker 1>programming for cats. As it turns out, yeah, this is
<v Speaker 1>actually a prediction of the future. The Roku has programming
<v Speaker 1>that is specifically designed for your pets, ladies and gentlemen.
<v Speaker 1>If you want to entertain your dog or your cat
<v Speaker 1>while you're away from the house, Roku has a channel
<v Speaker 1>for that.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Robert Mitcham. And in fact, I was going to
<v Speaker 2>tell you when Quinn and I this My son and
<v Speaker 2>I watched this last night together. I wanted to kind
<v Speaker 2>of gauge his reaction to it. He laughed out loud
<v Speaker 2>at the end when Bill Murray's you know the finale
<v Speaker 2>where he kind of takes over the Christmas Carol and
<v Speaker 2>he starts improving and saying, you know, the Christmas Miracle,
<v Speaker 2>when we can do this, and Robert Mitcham's character is
<v Speaker 2>really mad and he turns around and hauls off and
<v Speaker 2>kicks his cat. He just takes this big old kick
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, yeah, you know, my son thought that part
<v Speaker 2>was hilarious, so very good. It's very fun, Robert Mitcham. Funny. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you talked about Aufrey Woodard, you talked about John Glover.
<v Speaker 2>I want to bring up Mary Ellen Traynor. Mary Ellen
<v Speaker 2>Traynor is the woman that you see that Bill Murray's
<v Speaker 2>trying to kind of sweet talk into bed maybe.
<v Speaker 1>Right whenever the grandmother dies from Bill Murray's Commershall. She's
<v Speaker 1>the one who's showing him the lines and he's like,
<v Speaker 1>this is great. This is You can see her starting
<v Speaker 1>to massage his shoulders and him kind of giving her
<v Speaker 1>the eye or whatever. But yeah, we've talked about her
<v Speaker 1>a few times.
<v Speaker 2>So she has been in a lot of other Richard
<v Speaker 2>Daughter movies. She was in Gooney she played the mom
<v Speaker 2>and Goonies.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yep, she's the mom and Goonies. She's the psychiatrist
<v Speaker 1>in Lethal Way.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she also plays with the newscaster in Diehard.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, she was.
<v Speaker 2>Married to Robert Zemeckis. She was in Romance in The Stone.
<v Speaker 2>She's the sister that got hit by the Boomerang rocks
<v Speaker 2>that they were trying to rescue from Bolivia's right, that's right.
<v Speaker 2>The last guy I want to talk about is this
<v Speaker 2>guy named Michael J. Pollard.
<v Speaker 1>Perfect, That's where I was gonna go, Okay, okay, what
<v Speaker 1>you got No, So, Michael J. Pollard is the guy
<v Speaker 1>who you will remember from this movie. He's one of
<v Speaker 1>the guys who thinks that Bill Murray is Richard Burt. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>when they he's one of the homeless guys. Bill Murray
<v Speaker 1>shows up at the homeless shelter, He's like, say one
<v Speaker 1>of the lines like it's and then said, as Bill
<v Speaker 1>Murray is leaving, he's like, hey, Richard, can you give
<v Speaker 1>me two dollars so I can turn my heat back on?
<v Speaker 1>And then a little later on we see him down
<v Speaker 1>in like a little sewer area and he's frozen to death, right, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that he's just he's got a very cherubim face. You know,
<v Speaker 1>he's just got this very pleasing little and his eyes
<v Speaker 1>are frozen open, just like just like Julie at Lewis
<v Speaker 1>and Christmas Vacation. And it was interesting to me that
<v Speaker 1>in the old Superboy series, he's the guy that plays
<v Speaker 1>mister Mitch Mitchel plick. Oh really, and he's perfect. He's
<v Speaker 1>got the perfect hair. He's gonna be the perfect And
<v Speaker 1>we have another podcast, ladies and gentlemen called Podcast Full
<v Speaker 1>of Kryptonite where we talk about Superman and Lois, the
<v Speaker 1>TV series that's on the CW. You should go check
<v Speaker 1>that out. But I maintain that's a character that needs
<v Speaker 1>to show up in that series. Mister missile, mister mitchle Plack. Yeah, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>one more guy I want to talk about real quick
<v Speaker 1>Jack McGhee. Okay, he's the guy who.
<v Speaker 2>Says I can barely see them nipples improved.
<v Speaker 1>He improvably, right, yeah, and Bill.
<v Speaker 2>Murray right after him. He's like, see and these guys
<v Speaker 2>are really trying. Yeah, that guy has been in some
<v Speaker 2>other Dnner movies as well. Okay, he was in Lethal
<v Speaker 2>Weapon too. He's the guy who's shooting the nail gun
<v Speaker 2>that Murta uses later to nail and bull.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there you go, there you go. All right. So
<v Speaker 1>there are a ton of cameos in this one, especially
<v Speaker 1>because of the Christmas Carol, which they're calling Scrooge. By
<v Speaker 1>the way, they don't ever say the Christmas Carol or
<v Speaker 1>a Christmas Carol, they say Scrooge. And so you've got
<v Speaker 1>Buddy Hackett's Scrooge. You've got Jamie Farr as one of
<v Speaker 1>the go oh no, he's Jacob Marley in that one, right,
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got some other cameos. You've got Robert
<v Speaker 1>Goulay a Cajun Christmas yes. And you've got Lee Majors
<v Speaker 1>in the Night the Reindeer Died. I would watch the
<v Speaker 1>Lee Majors been a good Boy this year. And you
<v Speaker 1>got John Houseman as the narrator, who I knew from
<v Speaker 1>the paper Chase when I was a kid, influence on
<v Speaker 1>my desire to become an attorney. But when I saw
<v Speaker 1>the movie this time, and I saw Grace's mom, right,
<v Speaker 1>Grace is the secretary her mom, I'm like I know
<v Speaker 1>that lady. Okay, that actress is Mabel King, and she
<v Speaker 1>was in a TV series called What's Happening, which I
<v Speaker 1>remembered her from that, but you will probably remember her
<v Speaker 1>as the mom from The Jerk. I made a sandwich
<v Speaker 1>for you, wrapped it in cell a phane, just like
<v Speaker 1>you like.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh awesome another Saturday nightye play.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stay this. A ton of fantastic cameos throughout
<v Speaker 1>this one, and I don't I'm sure we've mentioned maryly written,
<v Speaker 1>but Mary le Retten as Mary lou Ratten. Don't forget
<v Speaker 1>the Solid Gold Dancers. Oh my gosh. By the way,
<v Speaker 1>just in a weird coincidence, Solid Gold was canceled the
<v Speaker 1>same year that this movie came out.
<v Speaker 2>This is the last time we ever see the Solid
<v Speaker 2>Gold Dancer, and.
<v Speaker 1>Man, they did a heck of a performance in it.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, you could hardly even see them nipples and.
<v Speaker 2>I was really trying, I was really try. Actually the
<v Speaker 2>kiss that Bill Murray has with the Solid Gold Dancer
<v Speaker 2>under the mistletoe, yes, improut.
<v Speaker 1>She did a good job with that one.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she's grabbing his nicktime. Yeah, okay, were ready to
<v Speaker 2>flip back to the cast of Christmas Vacation.
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it all right, Oh my gosh, what an
<v Speaker 1>all star lineup we have for such a small cast.
<v Speaker 2>I know, right, you're gonna have to help me understand
<v Speaker 2>the magnitude of some of these older actors. Okay, sure,
<v Speaker 2>all right, So let's start off. I mean you have
<v Speaker 2>to have Chevy Chase as Clark w Griswold.
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can't change the family members. Oh wait,
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes you can't.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, so weird that every single time, not only are
<v Speaker 1>they different actors, but they're different ages.
<v Speaker 2>Like it's very weird, and they reverse, you know, like I.
<v Speaker 1>Think they even mentioned Rusty in this episode as being
<v Speaker 1>in the Navy, as though there's a Russ and a Rusty.
<v Speaker 1>I don't and Bethany is just confused. It's all very weird.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you got Chevy Chase as you know, Sparky.
<v Speaker 1>Clark w was Griswold. I cannot tell you how many
<v Speaker 1>times in my household, not in any inappropriate way, I've
<v Speaker 1>said almost there, I'm gonna go for it, wild animals.
<v Speaker 2>And then you have Beverly DiAngelo as Ellen Griswold. She's back.
<v Speaker 1>I believe she was the first set of movie boobies
<v Speaker 1>I ever saw.
<v Speaker 2>Ah, yeah, for a lot of people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you mentioned she was not very old.
<v Speaker 2>She was twenty nine when she did the first Vacation movie. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and she's supposed to be the mother of like fifteen
<v Speaker 2>to sixteen year olds.
<v Speaker 1>Right. I can see Beverly Angelo getting busy a little
<v Speaker 1>bit early on Majors. Yeah, Majors. Yeah, she's sexy.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Then you have Juliette Lewis as Audrey Griswold.
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Juliet Lewis. I didn't realize this until later.
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen every which way of Loose? Yes? I
<v Speaker 1>have the guy who's in that as Clint Eastwood's kind
<v Speaker 1>of sidekick guy. Yes, her dad. I knew that. Yes. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So in this one, we've got John Galecki as Rusty.
<v Speaker 1>He's little thirteen year old kid in this one, despite
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was older than the other ones. Right,
<v Speaker 1>and this is his first movie comedy scenario. I mentioned
<v Speaker 1>earlier that Chevy Chase was kind of pointing at him
<v Speaker 1>and feeding him lines. There's the one part where he's
<v Speaker 1>like He's like, we checked every bull right, and he's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so maybe we should go. Oh, I gotta get to bed.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta feed the hog. Yeah, ghost through all that,
<v Speaker 1>those were all ad little lines that chevy Chase had
<v Speaker 1>given him. And if you'll notice, he pulls his sleeve
<v Speaker 1>back and he looks at his wrist as though there's
<v Speaker 1>a watch there, and there's no watch there, which is
<v Speaker 1>a classic chevy Chase bit. So he totally fed him
<v Speaker 1>all of that wonderful which, of course, now John Glecky
<v Speaker 1>goes on to be one of the major cast members
<v Speaker 1>in The Big Bang Theory, which is a huge comp
<v Speaker 1>it is.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I saw an interview with him and they said
<v Speaker 2>that his friends several years later they like, so you
<v Speaker 2>were in that movie with Juliet Lewis. He's like yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, do you make out with her?
<v Speaker 1>I was twelve.
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't make out with her. She barely knew
<v Speaker 2>I existed.
<v Speaker 1>She was into older guys, god younger. Yes.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Juliet Lewis natural born killers California huge.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's been in tons of stuff, tons of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glacky. Also, I remember him from Roseanne. He
<v Speaker 1>was the one of the boyfriends that's Roseanne.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Diane Ladd plays Nora Griswold, that's Clark's mom.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Now she's classic Hollywood actress.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she was in Chinatown, she was in Wild at Heart.
<v Speaker 2>She's been a ton of stuff. So she's good friends
<v Speaker 2>with Shirley McLean.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So Diane Ladd had gone on and married this doctor
<v Speaker 2>and they moved to Florida, and Shirley McLean calls her
<v Speaker 2>and says.
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Why are you not in Hollywood.
<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, I'm married to this guy and we're
<v Speaker 2>living in Florida. Plus, there's no good roles for me
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood anymore. Okay, And Shirley mcclan's like, get your
<v Speaker 2>butt back to Hollywood right now. There's tons of great
<v Speaker 2>stuff for you. You're too good an actress to be
<v Speaker 2>hiding out in Florida.
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.
<v Speaker 2>So she said fine, So she went back to Hollywood
<v Speaker 2>and that's when she landed this role.
<v Speaker 1>Wow, she's in movies that are coming out right now
<v Speaker 1>this year.
<v Speaker 2>She plays Clark's mom and she's only like six years
<v Speaker 2>older than Chevy Chase.
<v Speaker 1>Then we have a couple of big hitters. We've got E. G. Marshall.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, then, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>He was. He is a monster. And what was that
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about another movie that he was in. What
<v Speaker 1>did we talk about?
<v Speaker 2>He was the president in Superman one and two.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that is right. Go check out our Superman
<v Speaker 1>one and two versus Man of Steel episode. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I had forgotten about that. Yeah, he plays the president.
<v Speaker 1>And of course classic I mean, brilliant actor again, big
<v Speaker 1>twenty century actor.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Go ahead, Superman directed by Richard donnerd
<v Speaker 2>there you go. Then we've got Doris Roberts who plays Francis.
<v Speaker 2>She's hysterical. You've seen her in a million things. She's
<v Speaker 2>always going to be Ray's mom from Everybody Less Raymond,
<v Speaker 2>right right, she is the freaking funniest in that in
<v Speaker 2>that TV show. I don't think she really gets to
<v Speaker 2>shine in Christmas Vacation as much as she does. And
<v Speaker 2>everybody loves Raymond.
<v Speaker 1>Well, she has the fantastic part where she faints with
<v Speaker 1>the squirrel. Hysterical. Yes, And then we have the return
<v Speaker 1>of cousin Eddie himself, mister Randy Quaid Eddie.
<v Speaker 2>If I woke up tomorrow with my head's on to
<v Speaker 2>the clipt I would not be as surprised as as am.
<v Speaker 1>Right now. I can still remember hearing that line for
<v Speaker 1>the first time and I could not stop like it
<v Speaker 1>was so well placed, so brilliant, loved loved it. Now
<v Speaker 1>here's a deep cut for you. Are you ready? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>So gene Autry has a song in this one. Here
<v Speaker 1>comes down clas Randy Quaid's grandfather. Is gene Autry's cousin? Really, okay?
<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I know that is because I
<v Speaker 1>watched the audio commentary and he's like, oh yeah, gene Autry, there,
<v Speaker 1>that's my third cousin. And he's They're like, what makes
<v Speaker 1>it a third cousin? He's like, is my grandfather's cousin?
<v Speaker 1>How about that?
<v Speaker 2>That's cool?
<v Speaker 1>Right? And then of course also the return of Miriam Flynn,
<v Speaker 1>who plays cousin Eddie's wife, cousin.
<v Speaker 2>Catherine Kevin Catherine. Just the chemistry between those two is
<v Speaker 2>so good. When he's kind of pinching our button stuff,
<v Speaker 2>He's like, don't forget the rubber sheets and the gerbils.
<v Speaker 2>That's a throwaway line that you can barely hear. It's brilliant,
<v Speaker 2>and she just rolls with it, just for whatever.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, it is. It's really hysterical. And she
<v Speaker 1>this is the thing that she pointed out. They're watching
<v Speaker 1>the movie as they do the commentary, and she's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>he's got a Tasmanian there's a Tasmanian Devil cup. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, so, Sister Clark drinking out of this cup? Right.
<v Speaker 1>She was the voice of Taz's mom in the Tasmanian
<v Speaker 1>Devil series that was on back in the whatever it was.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a Marty Moose cup, by.
<v Speaker 1>The way, not that cup when he's in the office.
<v Speaker 1>When he's seen in the office all the guys march in,
<v Speaker 1>he's drinking out of a Tasmanian double cup.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, cool, cool.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Way, first Christmas that we had at my office
<v Speaker 1>party about everybody Marty the Moose cups. Nice.
<v Speaker 2>Nice. I saw them on sale Target the other day.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, in this movie, you have the infamous
<v Speaker 2>actress from the movie Troll that I just watched the
<v Speaker 2>other day, which was terrible. Okay, Julia Louise Dreyfuss.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you mentioned that she was super hot back then, yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and she had been in Saturday Night Live at this point.
<v Speaker 1>She's obviously got brilliant comedic timing still looks really good,
<v Speaker 1>and this one looks great. It's almost like they've got
<v Speaker 1>a separate movie going on for those two, and I
<v Speaker 1>love it. The guy who plays her husband is a
<v Speaker 1>guy named Nicholas Guest. Okay, you probably have heard of
<v Speaker 1>his brother, Christopher Guests. Oh yeah, I have waiting for Guffman.
<v Speaker 1>He's the six fingered man in Princess Bride, I mean
<v Speaker 1>spinal tap. Also married to Jamie Lee Curtis, by the way,
<v Speaker 1>So good job him, Yeah for him. Yeah, he's doing
<v Speaker 1>great there. So his brother, Nicholas Guest is the guy
<v Speaker 1>who plays Todd. And how many times in your life
<v Speaker 1>do you say, why is the carpet weed Todd?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Margo, It's it is.
<v Speaker 1>A thing that we go to routinely every year.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we also have to bring up William Hickey as
<v Speaker 2>Lewis Griswold.
<v Speaker 1>Dude, an acting icon. Was a teacher for a ton
<v Speaker 1>of great actors, but really just kind of did it
<v Speaker 1>for the love of the game. I mean he would
<v Speaker 1>give acting lessons for five dollars, but brilliant actor. He
<v Speaker 1>was twenty years younger than Aunt Bethany whenever he's playing
<v Speaker 1>this part, but nails that. It was originally that part
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be George Burns, so you can see
<v Speaker 1>that with the stogies and the wig and all that
<v Speaker 1>other stuff. He totally nails that despite the fact that
<v Speaker 1>he was a much younger I think he was maybe
<v Speaker 1>not even quite sixty, I mean, very very young guy
<v Speaker 1>playing this part.
<v Speaker 2>But he has some of the best lines in the movie, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>where he's like, you couldn't hear a dump truck drive
<v Speaker 2>through a nitro glycerin plant?
<v Speaker 1>Yes? The blessing Yes.
<v Speaker 2>And then, of course we have Aunt Bethany played by
<v Speaker 2>may Questal.
<v Speaker 1>May Questaal, who was the original Betty Boop and also
<v Speaker 1>the original Olive Oil. Holy crap, talk about a resume here.
<v Speaker 2>I knew she was Betty, but I didn't know she
<v Speaker 2>was Olive Oil.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and obviously she's passed on since then, but man,
<v Speaker 1>all of her scenes are iconic in this In.
<v Speaker 2>This way, Grace died thirty years ago.
<v Speaker 1>Oh did I pass When? Did the room clear out?
<v Speaker 2>So funny? Okay, and one more person we got to
<v Speaker 2>talk about, Yeah, Nicolette Scorsese.
<v Speaker 1>Not related to Martin Scorsese. Yeah, but I don't care.
<v Speaker 2>I don't either.
<v Speaker 1>I just have to think. For the casting process for
<v Speaker 1>this movie, they had to go, can we see your
<v Speaker 1>hip exactly? And she had the perfect hip. She could
<v Speaker 1>barely even see the lines, can even see the lions?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Hey, you know something funny that I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>be the dummy here for a second.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>It took me a few viewings to realize that the
<v Speaker 2>girl working in the retail lingerie part of the store
<v Speaker 2>where she's showing her underwear to Clark, she's the pool girl.
<v Speaker 2>It's the same girl.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Jason, Oh my gosh. There's just some things that
<v Speaker 1>you can't say out loud. This goes back to our
<v Speaker 1>Rio episode all over again. I'm not even going to
<v Speaker 1>revisit that. How did you not know that that was
<v Speaker 1>the same girl.
<v Speaker 2>I just thought she was another girl in a red
<v Speaker 2>baby same.
<v Speaker 1>My gosh, my guy, my guy. I don't know what
<v Speaker 1>to say about that. We better move on.
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't wearing lingeride.
<v Speaker 1>She threw me off. I was looking at her face.
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at cousin Eddie there for a second. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>If I know, father, he's out there. Jason Bieber, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>do you have any more?
<v Speaker 1>Nope, that's it. Okay, So there's one more name that
<v Speaker 1>I got to mention. This is kind of you could
<v Speaker 1>easily glaze over this one, but it's it's just worth
<v Speaker 1>worth mentioning. Okay, Okay, maybe just because of this random
<v Speaker 1>movie trivia. The boss's wife, right, yes, okay, played by
<v Speaker 1>Natalia Nogolish, Yes you can kind of heargolis. I tell
<v Speaker 1>you the goolis? Was that something that I missed?
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she was related to the guy who did Caroll
<v Speaker 2>the bells but keep going no, okay.
<v Speaker 1>Not even one similar letter.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, then al okay.
<v Speaker 1>To tell you to Gulich. Okay, So she's the wife, right,
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you know, I was thinking about not
<v Speaker 1>doing bonuses this year, and she's like.
<v Speaker 2>Oh you didn't.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Right. That actress provided the voice for mon Mathma
<v Speaker 1>in the radio adaptation of Return of the Jedi.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that is a random bit of trivia.
<v Speaker 1>But I saw it and I was like, well, I
<v Speaker 1>miss what we do here at the Shirley Podcast.
<v Speaker 2>Mathma.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.
<v Speaker 2>That is fantastic.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Okay, guys, that is going to do it. For
<v Speaker 1>part one of this comparison, We will be back next
<v Speaker 1>week for part two, where we will give you the
<v Speaker 1>production and the reception of the movies, and we'll give
<v Speaker 1>you our final judgal judgment on which one of these
<v Speaker 1>movies is the best.
<v Speaker 2>Come back next week. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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