A White Sasquatch Encounter From Oregon State | "It Was Eating Our Food At The Campsite!"

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
<v Speaker 1>this episode, we have Ellie from Oregon and she had
<v Speaker 1>a very interesting bigfoot encounter that took place at a
<v Speaker 1>campground near Crater Lake. A white sasquatch came up to
<v Speaker 1>camp and sat at the picnic table and ate their food.
<v Speaker 1>I find these types of encounters extremely interesting because I've
<v Speaker 1>gotten reports like this in the past from people, and
<v Speaker 1>it seems like every so often a sasquatch will come
<v Speaker 1>out of the woods and hang out with people at camp.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why they do this, and I believe they
<v Speaker 1>choose certain people and they feel comfortable around them. What
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts and theories regarding this type of activity
<v Speaker 1>and why do they do it? Have you ever had
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot encounter? If so, contact me at Sasquatch Theory
<v Speaker 1>at outlook dot com and I would love to talk
<v Speaker 1>to you about it. All right, guys, with all that
<v Speaker 1>being said, let's dive right into Ellie's bigfoot encounter from
<v Speaker 1>the state of Oregon. All right, Ellie, welcome to Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>Do youing? Okay?
<v Speaker 1>Good? Good to hear and Ellie, if you would tell
<v Speaker 1>me a little bit about yourself and your big foot
<v Speaker 1>encounters and experiences.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was born and raised in Oregon, born in
<v Speaker 2>eastern Oregon, race in western Oregon, up in the mountains,
<v Speaker 2>and my encounter occurred in the springtime. My mother had
<v Speaker 2>decided she wanted my kids to see Greater Lake so
<v Speaker 2>and go camping. So I loaded up the car with
<v Speaker 2>the didn't blank and things like that, some potato chips, marshmallows,
<v Speaker 2>and hot dogs, and we took up and headed towards
<v Speaker 2>Crater Lake. Well, when we got to the road going
<v Speaker 2>to Crater Lake, it was snowed in. We couldn't go
<v Speaker 2>up there, so we figured we'd camp out below and
<v Speaker 2>see what happened the next day. And where we camped
<v Speaker 2>was not far from Diamond Lake. And when we found
<v Speaker 2>our spot, it was really nice, not part of the bathrooms,
<v Speaker 2>the deer weren't to pray it at all, which we
<v Speaker 2>thought was really cool. And a guy came and offered
<v Speaker 2>to help us set up tent and stuff. We told
<v Speaker 2>him now we were okay, and he said everybody called
<v Speaker 2>him the damned trapper. So anyway, after he left and
<v Speaker 2>we got everything set up, fed the kids, I promised
<v Speaker 2>the kids that I would give them hot dogs in
<v Speaker 2>the morning and marshmallows before we left. Well that didn't happen.
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, we had got the kids put to bed
<v Speaker 2>in the tent. Mom went to bed. We had put
<v Speaker 2>a what we call a packer pole in to the fire,
<v Speaker 2>and as it burns down, you push it up in
<v Speaker 2>the fire and the other end of it went right
<v Speaker 2>alongside the tent. So got mad, went asleep, woke up
<v Speaker 2>because the packer pole was moving. So I pulled the
<v Speaker 2>flat back and looked, and there was big foot right there.
<v Speaker 2>My case was only two feet from me his foot.
<v Speaker 2>I went to look up and I blacked out. I
<v Speaker 2>never black out. So later I woke up and my
<v Speaker 2>mom was gone. So I started hollering for my mom.
<v Speaker 2>She finally answered and said she had to go to
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. Well, since the bathrooms were in sight of
<v Speaker 2>the tent, I decided I'd walk with her down there. Well,
<v Speaker 2>on the way there, we had little pebbles and stuff
<v Speaker 2>hitting our legs, and then a few more steffs. All
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden we heard all this really loud stumping.
<v Speaker 2>It was so loud that we could feel it in
<v Speaker 2>our chest. So my mom decided we'd go back, and
<v Speaker 2>she peed behind the bush by the tent. So she
<v Speaker 2>got her in bed and we went back to sleep. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I woke up and there was a big foot right close,
<v Speaker 2>so I took my kids. At that time, I m
<v Speaker 2>had heard they take kids. So I took my kids
<v Speaker 2>and I got them up and put them in the car,
<v Speaker 2>which was a seventy nine olds cut was supreme. The
<v Speaker 2>uh kids, they didn't understand, but I made him lay
<v Speaker 2>down in the back seat. My mom come and got
<v Speaker 2>in the car, but we seen him come in. He
<v Speaker 2>sat down sideways at the table. He was pure white,
<v Speaker 2>and we didn't know what to think. So my mom
<v Speaker 2>she got really scared. She was starting to cry and
<v Speaker 2>pray over and over. I thought she was going to
<v Speaker 2>have a heart attack. And we were a couple hours
<v Speaker 2>from Roseburg, so we decided just stay there, and eventually
<v Speaker 2>my mom called them down, I guess and went to sleep.
<v Speaker 2>And before that had been watching the bigfoot sitting at
<v Speaker 2>the table eating the potato chips and the marshmallows. We
<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure out why he never touched the hot dogs.
<v Speaker 2>That was a big curiosity for me. So anyway, it
<v Speaker 2>was probably four or five hours later. All of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>we didn't realize that he had left. I think we
<v Speaker 2>both blacked out. So when we got up and I
<v Speaker 2>caught the kids up and everything, they were mad because
<v Speaker 2>all the potato chips and all the marshmallows were gone.
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, bigfoot eat them, so I guess you'll
<v Speaker 2>have to have hot dogs. They were not happy that
<v Speaker 2>they settled down with it, and then we went walking
<v Speaker 2>around the park and we found the damn dropper and
<v Speaker 2>told him what happened, and he said it knew that
<v Speaker 2>it was just two women and children and no weapons,
<v Speaker 2>and it was just trying to help us. Okay. We
<v Speaker 2>took his word for that and went back to the
<v Speaker 2>campsite and got it broke down, put in the car
<v Speaker 2>and we left. Well, it was a terrifying experience for
<v Speaker 2>my mom, and when we got her back home, we
<v Speaker 2>told Dad what happened and that it was pure white.
<v Speaker 2>My dad said, a pure white one is probably because
<v Speaker 2>of the snow on the ground. He figured that when
<v Speaker 2>they were around snow they turned white, and then when
<v Speaker 2>there's no snow they turned brown or black. Okay, Dad,
<v Speaker 2>that sounded logical. I put it on a website, and
<v Speaker 2>everybody called me a liar because at that time they
<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen white wine. We decided not to even go
<v Speaker 2>to Greater Lake. We just went home. My dad had
<v Speaker 2>had an experience with a bigfoot when I was younger.
<v Speaker 2>He had decided to walk up the road to go
<v Speaker 2>hunting instead of taking a vehicle and scaring the deer. Well,
<v Speaker 2>after a while, Dad come back running and when he
<v Speaker 2>got in the house he couldn't breathe. He was out
<v Speaker 2>of breath and he had flood running down his nose.
<v Speaker 2>Scared the hell out of me. I was worried for
<v Speaker 2>my dad. I didn't know what happened. Once he got
<v Speaker 2>his breath, he told us that he seem a bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>and it followed him along the hillside. Dad was on
<v Speaker 2>the road. He said he thought that it was af
<v Speaker 2>terream because he had a rifle with him, so he
<v Speaker 2>ran all the way home without stopping, and he said
<v Speaker 2>it was a big brown one. Of course, this was summertime,
<v Speaker 2>towards summer, and we never heard anymore about it. And
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty much my experience.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Ellie. I really appreciate you for sharing that
<v Speaker 1>with me, and whenever you encountered this bigfoot. Were you terrified?
<v Speaker 1>You said you blacked out. Do you remember anything after that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I remember. I didn't really fear fear for anything
<v Speaker 2>but my kids because of the stories I had heard.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't blame you. And what did this
<v Speaker 1>creature look like?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I would say he was probably seven seven and
<v Speaker 2>a half foot tall, pure white, his hair was fairly long.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't look harmful. But after the experience going to
<v Speaker 2>the batho through him, you know, was a little scared
<v Speaker 2>to get out and approach him. So we just stayed
<v Speaker 2>in the car till daybreak and the catch us the deer.
<v Speaker 2>Then hour after Bigfoot left, the deer came back in,
<v Speaker 2>so we knew we were okay, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And what did the eyes look like?
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't really tell you because when I tried to
<v Speaker 2>look up at him, when his foot was that close
<v Speaker 2>to my face, I blacked out before I got that eigeh.
<v Speaker 2>And in the dark, all that light at the campfire
<v Speaker 2>was all I had, so I couldn't really tell.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And did the creature show up multiple times? Because
<v Speaker 1>you said that.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, it shut up when it pushed the log
<v Speaker 2>up into the fire and then it came back later
<v Speaker 2>and was sitting at the picnic table side because it
<v Speaker 2>couldn't sit straight under it, and was eating everything. So
<v Speaker 2>that's twice.
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, yeah, that's interesting. So it sat at the
<v Speaker 1>picnic table and it was eating the potato chips and
<v Speaker 1>the marshmallows.
<v Speaker 2>Correct, yep, okay, never touched the hot dogs?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Did it make any noise whenever it was sitting
<v Speaker 1>there or was it just silent?
<v Speaker 2>It was silent, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And did you get a good look at it whenever
<v Speaker 1>it was sitting at the table?
<v Speaker 2>Kind of My car was sparked probably thirty feet away.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you guys were sitting in the car and
<v Speaker 1>the creature was sitting at the table.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. The windows get bogging over and had to keep
<v Speaker 2>wiping them to see it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And why do you think the creature didn't touch the
<v Speaker 1>hot dogs? Is it because it was like processed food,
<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of different meats mixed together.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. I considered maybe then cools to use
<v Speaker 2>in it. I really have no idea why it didn't
<v Speaker 2>touch them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, And whenever your mom was praying, did it
<v Speaker 1>have any effect on the creature? Did it seem like
<v Speaker 1>it it helped. No, it didn't, Okay, because I.
<v Speaker 2>Hear it sitting there. He just keeps sitting there eating.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I hear a lot of people say, if
<v Speaker 1>you want to get rid of these things, you have
<v Speaker 1>to use the power of God, and when you pray,
<v Speaker 1>they'll go away. But I told people, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>would pray too, and these things were still out there
<v Speaker 1>doing what they do. And I mean, I believe prayer
<v Speaker 1>works with any situation, but I.
<v Speaker 2>Mean, so do I usually. But I guess maybe God
<v Speaker 2>figured it wasn't causing any harms, so there's no point.
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like it was comfortable with you guys, because
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you said earlier, it was two females
<v Speaker 1>and little kids. And the scary part about that as
<v Speaker 1>you hear the Native Americans talk about how they're attracted
<v Speaker 1>to women and children and they'll even take them.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, i'd heard that. That's why I put the kids
<v Speaker 2>in the car.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And your dad mentioned that these creatures could go
<v Speaker 1>from brown to white depending on the time of year,
<v Speaker 1>and Ptarmigan and Alaska they're brown in the summertime and
<v Speaker 1>then they turn white in the wintertime, and that could
<v Speaker 1>be the same with the sasquatch. It's an excellent theory
<v Speaker 1>perhaps that they possibly turn colors. I seen an adult sasquatch.
<v Speaker 1>It was jet black, but it had these white stripes
<v Speaker 1>going down its back. And it was in the summertime
<v Speaker 1>around I think it was in June, and maybe it
<v Speaker 1>was starting to turn white. It's hard to say.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if they're out in the snow'll have
<v Speaker 2>a lot of snow around, they'll turn white. Like the
<v Speaker 2>Arctic barks and the Arctic grab It they turned white
<v Speaker 2>in the winter when there's snow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's not too far fetched to believe that
<v Speaker 1>the sasquatch can turn different colors depending on the time
<v Speaker 1>of year to blend into the environment.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's my thought and my father's. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And did the creature just sit there eating and then
<v Speaker 1>it just got up and left or did it ever
<v Speaker 1>look at you guys.
<v Speaker 2>No, it didn't seem to look as it was just
<v Speaker 2>enjoying what it was eating. The potato chips were one
<v Speaker 2>was a barbecue and the other one was the Sarah
<v Speaker 2>creman chie. And it didn't seem to bother it. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it ate both bags full.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And was it eating the food like a dog
<v Speaker 1>or was it like eating like a human, like using
<v Speaker 1>its hand like more like a human. Yeah, that is interesting.
<v Speaker 1>And you guys were having pebbles thrown at you, and
<v Speaker 1>you could hear stomping so loud that you could feel
<v Speaker 1>it in your chest.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, on the way to the bathroom, which we never
<v Speaker 2>made it there.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and the stomping, Oh, go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>I had the feeling that the stomping was probably his doing.
<v Speaker 2>I think there were other sasquats there and he was
<v Speaker 2>proticting us from them, because why else would they scar
<v Speaker 2>us away from the bathroom.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure there was more around. And whenever you
<v Speaker 1>guys arrived to the area, you said that the deer
<v Speaker 1>were comfortable, they weren't afraid, and then whenever the sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>showed up, they left.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they left just probably fifteen twenty minutes before he
<v Speaker 2>showed up.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe they weren't afraid of you guys because they
<v Speaker 1>knew the sasquatch were in the woods and they were
<v Speaker 1>trying to get away from them.
<v Speaker 2>Have no idea that I know. In the morning they
<v Speaker 2>came back. They weren't afraid of people at all. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>my kids thought that was so cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting. And whenever you blocked out, do
<v Speaker 1>you think the creature caused this or was it just
<v Speaker 1>pure fear and terror?
<v Speaker 2>I think the creature caused it because I felt more
<v Speaker 2>curious than anything, and I'm not prone to passing out.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, have you ever passed out prior to this
<v Speaker 1>encounter or was this the first time?
<v Speaker 2>It's first time?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. And the trapper that said maybe it's
<v Speaker 1>because there were women and children in the area, did
<v Speaker 1>he ever mention seeing this creature or knowing anything about it?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know that he lived out in the woods
<v Speaker 2>most of his adult life because he had a family
<v Speaker 2>and bikers killed his family. Yeah, and he seemed to
<v Speaker 2>understand how the bigfoot work. I guess he had been
<v Speaker 2>around him before. The way he talked, he had such
<v Speaker 2>confidence as day the one was at our camp.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard people talk about Crater Lake and Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>How far away was the lake? Were you guys right
<v Speaker 1>on it?
<v Speaker 2>No, we were at Lamola Lake, which is kind of
<v Speaker 2>kitty corner across from Diamond Lake.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, sure, it's a big.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not far from the entrance to Crater Lake.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And have you spoken with anyone else that's had
<v Speaker 1>an encounter in this area by Diamond Lake Crater Lake.
<v Speaker 2>No, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And how long ago do this encounter take place.
<v Speaker 2>It's probably been forty years ago, okay.
<v Speaker 1>And you said back then, no one's seen a white
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch like you were the first one to report it,
<v Speaker 1>and people were saying that they're not white. Is that
<v Speaker 1>correct correct?
<v Speaker 2>They called me a liar until other people started reporting
<v Speaker 2>white ones.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're out there, and I do wonder if they
<v Speaker 1>change colors. There's been reports here in Missouri of people
<v Speaker 1>seeing a white sasquatch, especially around an area called Little
<v Speaker 1>Indian Creek and Union, Missouri. And I wonder if it's
<v Speaker 1>the same one or if each clan has like a
<v Speaker 1>white sasquatch in it, because I know with Sasquatch clans
<v Speaker 1>there's like jet black ones, brown ones, and kind of
<v Speaker 1>a mix of every color, gray ones, white ones.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, there's all kinds of colors. I guess because
<v Speaker 2>when my dad's seen was brown and it was summertime. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>How far away was your dad's experience or encounter from
<v Speaker 1>the area that you guys had the encounter at the
<v Speaker 1>picnic table?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, probably three hours, yeah, and a long ways.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good ways away. Have you had
<v Speaker 1>any other experiences after this?
<v Speaker 2>I had one that you might find kind of funny.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's hear about it.
<v Speaker 2>My brothers wanted to go camping at what they called
<v Speaker 2>the tree Farm, but they wouldn't. Nobody had let him
<v Speaker 2>go unless he had a chaperone. So they talked me
<v Speaker 2>into going with him. All throughout that day and the
<v Speaker 2>night before, you could hear sasquatch constantly. So two of
<v Speaker 2>my brother's friends were little boys with hair cleared down
<v Speaker 2>almost to their butt. Their hair was for long, and
<v Speaker 2>as we were camping and had the fire going, I
<v Speaker 2>kept telling them, you know what's going to happen. I
<v Speaker 2>said that Sasquatch is going to come down, he's going
<v Speaker 2>to take you to and he's going to find out
<v Speaker 2>you not a female, and lord knows what will happen.
<v Speaker 2>Then I scared him so bad that the next day
<v Speaker 2>they went and got their hair cut short. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably a good thing. Have you ever had
<v Speaker 1>any paranormal experiences prior to the bigfit encounter or after?
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh? Before growing up at my grandmother's house, my
<v Speaker 2>grandparents raised me both sets, and my one grandma's house
<v Speaker 2>was quite haunted. My dad said it was because it's
<v Speaker 2>something my grandfather was into, but he wouldn't tell me
<v Speaker 2>what it was. And those are a completely different story.
<v Speaker 2>Like my aunt and uncle came to visit and all
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, my aunt said, well, we've got to go,
<v Speaker 2>and my uncle said, well we just got here. She said,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, but we have to go. When
<v Speaker 2>they went out the door, they seem the smoke billow
<v Speaker 2>and now the upstairs they called fire department. I was
<v Speaker 2>upstairs in my crib and my aunt had made this
<v Speaker 2>crossset of popstickle popsicle sticks had it on the wall
<v Speaker 2>above the crib. Well the fire department. One guy ended
<v Speaker 2>up in the hospital from smoking elation, and they had
<v Speaker 2>finally got fire out. When they got to where my
<v Speaker 2>crib was, it was perfectly cool and I was unarmed.
<v Speaker 2>So they told me that God must have plans for me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And what do you think was going on there?
<v Speaker 1>Because you said they wouldn't tell you. What was your theory?
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't have one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, Well it just made me wonder, like if
<v Speaker 1>they're messing with like the occult or like witchcraft or something.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what my grandpa was into, but we
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of terrible experiences. Once I was sleeping
<v Speaker 2>with my grandma and my Grandpa was not there at
<v Speaker 2>the time, and I felt these hands coming up between
<v Speaker 2>my lays and I started kicking and screaming, and Grandma said, oh,
<v Speaker 2>you're just having a nightmare. I said, no, I'm not.
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, these little black things
<v Speaker 2>they pulled the blankets off the bed, and about that
<v Speaker 2>time we heard Grandpa come up on the porch and
<v Speaker 2>they assumed into a closet and we're never seen again.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's frightening from the information that I've gathered, Like,
<v Speaker 1>if let's say your past family members have messed with witchcraft,
<v Speaker 1>you occult or contacting spirit guides or playing with ouiji
<v Speaker 1>boards or pendulums, anything that doesn't you know, that's not holy,
<v Speaker 1>can follow you your family members, and it can be
<v Speaker 1>passed down through generations. So the only way to correct
<v Speaker 1>that is through prayer, and you just have to to
<v Speaker 1>kind of seek prayers that ward off evil spirits. I
<v Speaker 1>guess it depends on your religion, but basically you have
<v Speaker 1>to you know, ask for forgiveness and kind of recall
<v Speaker 1>anything like any sin that you've committed or family generational sins.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's the same thing with like genetics.
<v Speaker 1>Let's say, if somebody has got like severe depression, they
<v Speaker 1>say it can be passed down through generations. It's the
<v Speaker 1>same way with Yeah, with this stuff. So that's all one.
<v Speaker 2>My granddaughter, My granddaughter had an evil spirit following her
<v Speaker 2>all the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And she.
<v Speaker 2>Would come in my bedroom and she would be fine,
<v Speaker 2>but she went back to her bedroom route in the hall. Wait,
<v Speaker 2>it was there waiting for terror fighter. So she slipped
<v Speaker 2>with me a lot. But now she's in Oregon, has
<v Speaker 2>a little boy and seems pretty happy most of the time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's good. And you know, I do believe
<v Speaker 1>that Bigfoot is a flesh and blood creature, but also
<v Speaker 1>there's the unknown side to it, and you know, there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of strange claims that have come from people's experiences,
<v Speaker 1>and we just have to keep in mind that there's
<v Speaker 1>possibly more going on. So I do ask my guests
<v Speaker 1>if they've ever had paranormal encounters, just to gauge, you know,
<v Speaker 1>why someone has had bigfoot encounters and other people don't,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not claiming that it is connected to the paranormal,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just trying to find, you know, the missing
<v Speaker 1>pieces of the puzzle. And it's really hard as a
<v Speaker 1>researcher to find evidence other than tracks, hairs, things like that,
<v Speaker 1>because you know, there does seem to be an element
<v Speaker 1>to these creatures, and you know, there's got to be
<v Speaker 1>a reason why tracks just disappear, people can't find bones
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods, and why everything's so vague.
<v Speaker 2>Well, some people think the giant people they talk about
<v Speaker 2>that used to be here are actually the big, fitter
<v Speaker 2>offspring of them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it could be possible, or possibly the
<v Speaker 1>same things that created the giants created the sasquatch and
<v Speaker 1>other cryptids. But it's really hard to say. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we're just speculating and theorizing, but there's definitely something strange
<v Speaker 1>going on.
<v Speaker 2>I know, studying about it afterwards, I noticed that the
<v Speaker 2>ones on the west coast were friendlier than those going east.
<v Speaker 2>The further east you went, the more grissy they seemed.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very well, could be. It seems like there's different
<v Speaker 1>tribes or clans of Sasquatch, and depending on what area
<v Speaker 1>you're at, you could be dealing with something completely different,
<v Speaker 1>something with a complete different mindset. And I've heard that
<v Speaker 1>with like Washington State in Oregon that there's friendly ones,
<v Speaker 1>and it's the same way here in Missouri. But let's say,
<v Speaker 1>like you go to East Texas, a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>say that they've had horrible, horrific encounters. Same with like Alaska,
<v Speaker 1>and I think it just depends where you're at.
<v Speaker 2>It could be some say it's because it's harder living
<v Speaker 2>back there in the East. I really don't know why,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm glad I met the one in Oregon and
<v Speaker 2>not back East. But it's like people, we have people,
<v Speaker 2>some are good, some are bad, and I think bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>are the same way.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've asked people not to kill him.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I don't like sea animals die and people wanting to
<v Speaker 2>kill them just to cut them up or bury him
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It's not a cool thing to me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure a lot of these creatures have been
<v Speaker 1>shot in the past and we just don't hear about
<v Speaker 1>it because people don't want to get in trouble or
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're traumatized by it. And yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 1>that'd be a hard thing to open up about. Like
<v Speaker 1>if you shot like a juvenile or something, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly something that you want to make public.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard stories about him being shot. And I
<v Speaker 2>guess the company my dad worked for logging, the boss
<v Speaker 2>had come up and supposedly had one dead in the
<v Speaker 2>back of this truck and had everybody look at it
<v Speaker 2>and said, nah, don't you dare tell anybody ever, and
<v Speaker 2>they took it out and buried it. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>how true that is. It's just a story that my
<v Speaker 2>dad had told us. Yeah, said he never he never
<v Speaker 2>told anybody.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I did something like that, I would be
<v Speaker 1>completely and like I would be fearful. I would be
<v Speaker 1>scared just because of the experience. But like, let's say,
<v Speaker 1>if I had a body like it would traumatize me,
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to come out with it. Like I'd
<v Speaker 1>be completely scared, Like should I do this? Should I
<v Speaker 1>keep it a secret? Like what what do I do?
<v Speaker 1>And I think that would you know, that would chip
<v Speaker 1>away at my soul my mind, and I just wouldn't
<v Speaker 1>want that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So yeah, to answer to later.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just because like you don't know if like the
<v Speaker 1>rest of the Klan is going to come back and
<v Speaker 1>kill you for killing one of them? Or if you
<v Speaker 1>have a body, are you going to be put in prison?
<v Speaker 1>Or are people going to you know, call you a murder?
<v Speaker 1>Like all all those questions would pop up and just
<v Speaker 1>eat away at you.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I could never kill one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So people always ask why isn't there a body?
<v Speaker 1>Why hasn't anyone ever shot one? And you know, like
<v Speaker 1>you said, there are people, and people have claimed to
<v Speaker 1>do it, but maybe a majority of the people they're
<v Speaker 1>too fearful to open up about it. You know, it's
<v Speaker 1>a scary, scary thing, like what's gonna happen to you?
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna be put in federal prison? Are people
<v Speaker 1>going to call you a murder? Or are these things
<v Speaker 1>gonna come back and get you? Like, what's gonna happen?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've been told they ever knows about it, but
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to make it public because it could
<v Speaker 2>ship down a venture forests just like the Owl did
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people would lose their jobs logging.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe that with the Patterson and Gimlin film,
<v Speaker 1>like there's so many people that have went to I
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what it's called I'm just gonna Bluff Creek.
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. A lot of people have went there,
<v Speaker 1>and people think they're gonna see a bigfoot. There's all
<v Speaker 1>kinds of YouTube channels, you know, they go there and
<v Speaker 1>camp and make a video about it, and it's just like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, someone just saw one. Imagine if there was
<v Speaker 1>a body taken out of there and we had proof,
<v Speaker 1>how many people would flock the.
<v Speaker 2>Area exactly as it is. They try to lock down
<v Speaker 2>there anyway.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they do without a doubt. And what do you
<v Speaker 1>think these creatures are.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. Genetically, I could not even begin to think.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they said that they had blood samples and
<v Speaker 2>they have human DNA, but I don't know how true
<v Speaker 2>that is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard to say what that truly means because
<v Speaker 1>humans are classified as primates. We're animals, and we're a creature,
<v Speaker 1>and I guess humans are classified as a mammal. So
<v Speaker 1>people get mad if you call them a creature, an
<v Speaker 1>animal or primate, But that's what humans are and that's
<v Speaker 1>what it shows in the DNA. So it's really hard
<v Speaker 1>to tell the difference between all that, Like, what does
<v Speaker 1>this truly mean? Because just one one percentage difference can
<v Speaker 1>create a completely different creature, correct, Yeah, have you guys,
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, have you guys ever returned to
<v Speaker 1>the area where you've seen the white sasquatch? No?
<v Speaker 2>I ended up moving a long ways away.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you remember if it had like a roundhead
<v Speaker 1>or a conical shaped head?
<v Speaker 2>More rounded?
<v Speaker 1>Okay? And what kind of effect did this have on
<v Speaker 1>you after the encounter?
<v Speaker 2>Curiosity? But my mom she didn't even want to talk
<v Speaker 2>about it after a couple of years. It terrified her
<v Speaker 2>so bad.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. And you know that goes
<v Speaker 1>to show that two people had the same encounter. One
<v Speaker 1>person came out curious and the other person was terrified
<v Speaker 1>and never wanted to talk about it again, right you.
<v Speaker 1>And do the kids remember seeing anything or were they
<v Speaker 1>too young?
<v Speaker 2>They were too young, and they were I made him
<v Speaker 2>stay laid down. Yeah. I kind of wish I hadn't.
<v Speaker 2>I would have liked to have had them see it
<v Speaker 2>that at the time, I was too fraid to let
<v Speaker 2>them be up and look it out the window.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What do you think would have happened if you
<v Speaker 1>guys would have went out and approached the sasquatch and
<v Speaker 1>try to like communicate with it or sit at the
<v Speaker 1>table with it.
<v Speaker 2>I know my mom would have probably had attack and diet.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what would happen. I'm really not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this isn't the first time that I've heard about
<v Speaker 1>a sasquatch coming into camp and just doing what it wants.
<v Speaker 1>And I took a report from I think it was
<v Speaker 1>a Virginia and the guy claims they were camping in
<v Speaker 1>the sasquatch just hung out at their camp, and I
<v Speaker 1>mean it was a pretty in depth encounter and experience
<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to believe. But you know, these these
<v Speaker 1>types of encounters keep popping up.
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, there's some good and some bad,
<v Speaker 2>just like people, so you have to be careful.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And as a researcher, I kind of hope
<v Speaker 1>that happens to me one day, Like a sasquatch just
<v Speaker 1>walks out and hangs out at camp. I think that
<v Speaker 1>would be the best evidence you can get if you
<v Speaker 1>have a camera.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for some reason, photos don't take very well. I guess.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, hopefully I get the opportunity, and you just
<v Speaker 1>never know. I know they've been around here where I
<v Speaker 1>love at and I'm just hoping that one walks out
<v Speaker 1>and shows itself whenever I have my camera in my hand.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it'll put an end to the mystery,
<v Speaker 1>but it'll help out with people that have had these
<v Speaker 1>encounters and experiences.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it could. It could do the opposite and cause messpanic.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it would. And like we discussed earlier,
<v Speaker 1>people will flock an area. It doesn't matter what part
<v Speaker 1>of the US it is. And if somebody gets really
<v Speaker 1>good evidence or you know, like kills one of these creatures,
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna are They're going to show up there.
<v Speaker 1>And that's just how it is.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So what else have you had happened? You
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that you had paranormal experiences. Have you ever had
<v Speaker 1>any experiences with aliens? A lot of people have claimed
<v Speaker 1>to see like UFOs or have my.
<v Speaker 2>Parents seen the ufo? The only one we seen It
<v Speaker 2>crashed into the mountain and when we went up there,
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing left of it, just burnt spots. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the one my mom and dad said, they seemed they
<v Speaker 2>were on their way to the bar until Oregon and
<v Speaker 2>there was a covered bridge to the seventy Adventist Academy
<v Speaker 2>in Milo and They said other people were coming from
<v Speaker 2>the other direction as well as them, and my dad
<v Speaker 2>said Mom wanted to get out of the track and
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't let her. They said it was hovering over
<v Speaker 2>the covered bridge and it was so clear that they
<v Speaker 2>could see creatures moving in the windows. But that's all
<v Speaker 2>I know about that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's terrifying. Whenever you had the bigfoot encounter,
<v Speaker 1>could you guys smell anything, did it stink or anything
<v Speaker 1>like that?
<v Speaker 2>No, it didn't stink. It was no stench at all.
<v Speaker 1>And did they would knock whenever you guys were there, No,
<v Speaker 1>it didn't.
<v Speaker 2>The reason we figured it didn't stink was probably used
<v Speaker 2>to snow because it seemed to be well groomed.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And how how much do you think the creature weighed?
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I have no idea, I'm not a good judge
<v Speaker 2>of that.
<v Speaker 1>Like three hundred pounds or like eight hundred pounds if
<v Speaker 1>you had.
<v Speaker 2>A guess, probably closer to eight entered.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it was really big. And whenever it was stomping,
<v Speaker 1>did it sound like somebody was throwing like a sandbag
<v Speaker 1>on the ground or like a big log like.
<v Speaker 2>No, it just definite stomping. Okay, it's like Cyril, we're
<v Speaker 2>doing it at the same time.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting, and it makes me wonder if
<v Speaker 1>anyone else ever had an encounter in that same area.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but they edifier this left summer and
<v Speaker 2>so I have no idea what's left out there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hard to say. Okay, well, I think that
<v Speaker 1>pretty well answers all my questions. Do you have any
<v Speaker 1>questions for me or anything else that you'd like to
<v Speaker 1>mention in the podcast?
<v Speaker 2>I no, but thank you for the chance to tell people.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And Ellie, it was a pleasure speaking with
<v Speaker 1>you today, and I'm glad that you decided to open
<v Speaker 1>up and share your encounter with everyone.
<v Speaker 2>No problem, you have a nice day.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have an excellent day. And if you ever
<v Speaker 1>encounter anything else, feel free to reach back out to me. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>thank you, all right, you take care you too, by
<v Speaker 1>bye bye. All right, Ellie, thank you very much for
<v Speaker 1>sharing your bigfoot encounter with me here on sat Squatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>And I find this encounter to be very interesting because
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the deer just disappeared before the bigfoot came
<v Speaker 1>out and started eating the food. I believe these animals
<v Speaker 1>such as wildlife can pick up on the activity, and
<v Speaker 1>domesticated animals can too, So if you have a dog
<v Speaker 1>or a cat, they're gonna pick up on the activity
<v Speaker 1>long before you do. And it seems like this creature
<v Speaker 1>was out there watching you guys and observing you guys
<v Speaker 1>as you set up the picnic table. So yeah, the
<v Speaker 1>creature was hungry and it was looking for its next meal,
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't seem to mind your guys's presence and
<v Speaker 1>it didn't care. A lot of times, the sasquatch will
<v Speaker 1>observe us when we're at camp, wait for us to
<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, and then come out when it's nighttime
<v Speaker 1>and rummage through our stuff. But in this case, the
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch cannot wait until it got dark. And I mean
<v Speaker 1>it's very possible. Like I said, I got a report
<v Speaker 1>from Virginia in the past and the guy was hanging
<v Speaker 1>out at camp during the daylight hours and the sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>came out multiple times and hung out with them all
<v Speaker 1>day long. It was a very detailed encounter and if
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to check it out, I will tag
<v Speaker 1>it at the end of this video so you guys
<v Speaker 1>can listen to it. But yeah, Ellie had a very
<v Speaker 1>good point that possibly the sasquatch will turn white during
<v Speaker 1>the winter and they change colors just like foxes and
<v Speaker 1>rabbits and ptarmigan. So yeah, that's an excellent theory. And
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