Ep:197 Bigfoot Tried To Get In The Cabin

<v Speaker 1>When I first moved in here, you know, I wasn't
<v Speaker 1>too skeptical about Bigfoot, but I thought they're more like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, a gorilla or an animal. But now after
<v Speaker 1>all this is like, oh my god, these guys are smart.
<v Speaker 1>You know. One night I did hear something. It sounded
<v Speaker 1>like a human talking actually in the maybe the back
<v Speaker 1>of the cabin close where my bedroom is, and theyre
<v Speaker 1>say that a slider up there, glass slider, you can
<v Speaker 1>hear what's going on out there. I thought I heard
<v Speaker 1>the word understand, and it sounded perfectly like a human voice.
<v Speaker 1>And then I heard a kind of a grunt or
<v Speaker 1>a bark or something that sounded very ape like. Right
<v Speaker 1>after that, It's like, I said, yes, I understand.
<v Speaker 2>Just to get us started, tell me a little bit
<v Speaker 2>about yourself and how you came to find this spot.
<v Speaker 2>Is that were you trying to move into the middle
<v Speaker 2>of Bigfoot territory?
<v Speaker 1>Not exactly, but well, yeah. I worked for Lockyer in
<v Speaker 1>for Missia from California, then move up to Seattle area
<v Speaker 1>to work for Boeing. Then September eleventh happened. I got
<v Speaker 1>picked up by a lockyer in Fort Worth. Was in
<v Speaker 1>about twenty two years and during that time I had
<v Speaker 1>a Kevin in on your broke Bogs doornted there for
<v Speaker 1>about eleven years with a doubt and all that. I
<v Speaker 1>ended up selling it and decided to look around for
<v Speaker 1>a place either there or north of there, and this
<v Speaker 1>this place just happened to pop up. So, like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think after all this time that they'd still
<v Speaker 1>be active, but they seemed to be. Last June, about
<v Speaker 1>the middle of June was when they had tried the
<v Speaker 1>door at about one and you could really hear that
<v Speaker 1>the air conditioning wasn't running then, And of course my
<v Speaker 1>dog totally went crazy when that happened. She'd actually been
<v Speaker 1>looking at the door out the door which has a
<v Speaker 1>lot of glass across to where there's the edge of
<v Speaker 1>the ravine is that's about distance of twenty feet, and
<v Speaker 1>she she was just kind of like frozen there at
<v Speaker 1>about seven thirty the previous evening, and you know, maybe
<v Speaker 1>that's maybe they were looking at the place, checking it out,
<v Speaker 1>But she didn't grown bark or anything, but she's it's
<v Speaker 1>like she was looking at something, but she couldn't figure
<v Speaker 1>out what she was seeing.
<v Speaker 2>You know, is this on the the glass side of
<v Speaker 2>the house.
<v Speaker 1>It's actually on the north side. The glass actually looks
<v Speaker 1>out to the west. That's the main door that you
<v Speaker 1>come in. But it's got a lot of glass. So
<v Speaker 1>if there was one sitting there, because I could easily
<v Speaker 1>see me in here, you know, twenty feet away. Yeah, well,
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see anything. And seems like they either have
<v Speaker 1>some really remarkable camouflage or ability to turn translucent or something.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's been kind of a strange thing
<v Speaker 1>that The first thing that actually happened it was that
<v Speaker 1>first winter, maybe around Junior or February, and I had
<v Speaker 1>an older dog and he wasn't probably you know, sixteen
<v Speaker 1>years old, so he wasn't able to hear too well.
<v Speaker 1>I took him outside of about nine thirty at ten
<v Speaker 1>o'clock and something started growling at us with a I
<v Speaker 1>tried to match it as a very low pitch growl,
<v Speaker 1>and it was continuous. There's no bress taking. I tried
<v Speaker 1>to tried to match that up to it might be
<v Speaker 1>local animals in the area, like bears or mountain lions,
<v Speaker 1>but nothing really matched up. And a friend of mine
<v Speaker 1>had been growled at twoyear before. He was a little
<v Speaker 1>bit more towards the village. So that was that was that.
<v Speaker 1>In the couple months later, it sounded like a dog
<v Speaker 1>barking back here, and I thought, well, stray dog, you know,
<v Speaker 1>And so that's I had the other dog that I
<v Speaker 1>have now via I call her block as she's a
<v Speaker 1>lab mix about eighty pounds, and she was always barking
<v Speaker 1>at that. I go, well, that's normal, you know, one
<v Speaker 1>dog barking industry. So that's what I thought it was
<v Speaker 1>for a while. And then one evening I heard that
<v Speaker 1>dog barking. But then I heard this ridiculous sounding howl,
<v Speaker 1>like somebody was imitating a dog howling but didn't know
<v Speaker 1>quite how to do it. So I started laughing. You know.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's when they realized. Now, I think it
<v Speaker 1>was probably older to ask watch training a juvenile. That's
<v Speaker 1>my kind of working theory. I think they realized they've
<v Speaker 1>blown it because I haven't heard that dog yeah howling
<v Speaker 1>or anything lately.
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember, like how many times you heard the howl?
<v Speaker 2>Was it like a nightly occurrence?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was, I would say probably maybe ten times
<v Speaker 1>or so. And yeah, So it took a few weeks
<v Speaker 1>then I had that one incident happened. She was inside
<v Speaker 1>here she was. She didn't go outside for that, but
<v Speaker 1>she was in her barking up the storm, so I
<v Speaker 1>think she knew what was going on. And well, I
<v Speaker 1>did have one night something that was running around on
<v Speaker 1>my side porch. Here. It goes from the door and
<v Speaker 1>didn't go all the way up to the front of
<v Speaker 1>the cabin where the wall windows were. And this is
<v Speaker 1>during the summer. I had the air conditioning on, so
<v Speaker 1>the windows got calm missed it up and I couldn't
<v Speaker 1>exactly see what was going on, but it sounded pretty heavy,
<v Speaker 1>maybe two hundred and fifty to three hundred pounds based
<v Speaker 1>on what my dog at that time, I think she's
<v Speaker 1>about sixty pounds, and so when she jumps on the
<v Speaker 1>porch you can feel it, but not very much like
<v Speaker 1>not like this was. It kind of seemed from what
<v Speaker 1>I could see, kind of looked at the size fall
<v Speaker 1>regular sized gorilla, but it seemed like it was white
<v Speaker 1>with grayish so I don't know if it's an albino
<v Speaker 1>or what. And it was just seemed to be running
<v Speaker 1>back and forth.
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it was trying to like see you
<v Speaker 2>or something it could be.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I was upstairs. I wasn't too thrilled
<v Speaker 1>of coming down here. Robert wish I did now, But
<v Speaker 1>that was the most places I've had to an actual siding,
<v Speaker 1>which apparently isn't that unusual. Friend of mine who built
<v Speaker 1>his cabin, he's only a mile or two away, he's
<v Speaker 1>been here for twenty years. He's only seen one once
<v Speaker 1>on tough of his cabin. He said it was a juvenile,
<v Speaker 1>which I think maybe this was too, so I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if I'm under surveillance by a juvenile, and maybe
<v Speaker 1>the older one's kind of training it. Yeah, that both
<v Speaker 1>of us apparently are still under surveillance, because I went
<v Speaker 1>over there a couple of times, and then they came
<v Speaker 1>over here to see David played his latest movie, which
<v Speaker 1>I had already bought. And then when they so I
<v Speaker 1>watched a movie, and then we really left, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to turn the porchline on, so opened the door.
<v Speaker 1>And then when we heard a whistle and another corresponding
<v Speaker 1>whistle further out, so they were they were totally bothering us.
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe they were interested and the two of
<v Speaker 1>us getting together, you know, wanting to keep cabs on.
<v Speaker 2>Us would you say the activity is increasing at your
<v Speaker 2>place or is it just kind of steady.
<v Speaker 1>Lately. It's been steady h since I put the cameras up.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what kind of calmed things down. But well,
<v Speaker 1>for a while there, yeah, it was getting pretty crazy.
<v Speaker 1>And that same night that I saw the one running
<v Speaker 1>back and forth on the porch, which I think that's
<v Speaker 1>what it was, something really hit the side of the
<v Speaker 1>cabinet and it's uh, I was up there at the time,
<v Speaker 1>and it's it almost felt like one of them, uh
<v Speaker 1>hit the side with their body, you know, such a
<v Speaker 1>big thump. You know, it could have just been them
<v Speaker 1>slapping the side of it for them to have actually
<v Speaker 1>reached up there, since on the second floor, a normal
<v Speaker 1>human would have to ever a ladder, you know, because
<v Speaker 1>they hit right where my head was on the second floor.
<v Speaker 2>Why does that seem to be the case. It's almost
<v Speaker 2>like they know where you're at inside the house.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. I don't know how well they
<v Speaker 1>do that if it's they're hearing so accurate or what
<v Speaker 1>what do they have X ray eyes or something.
<v Speaker 2>The number of people that I have talked to that
<v Speaker 2>talks about them slapping the side of the house right
<v Speaker 2>by their head while they're laying in bed. It seems
<v Speaker 2>to be the case every single time, and it's so weird.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's yeah, that's what it was with my case too.
<v Speaker 2>Do you see a lot of bear around your property
<v Speaker 2>or other wildlife.
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're supposed to be. I haven't seen a bear
<v Speaker 1>they did shoot? Well, when was that five or six
<v Speaker 1>years ago? And my friend who's crossway, he goes, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds spared that. I really don't really think
<v Speaker 1>that was a there slept in the side of the cabin.
<v Speaker 1>But there's also a dis used dump area that's almost
<v Speaker 1>exactly as close to where they're supposed to hang out,
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense, I guess. I went down there with
<v Speaker 1>mine for a couple of weeks ago, and I don't
<v Speaker 1>really think it's an active dump sick now, but it
<v Speaker 1>used to be, so they were probably attracted to that
<v Speaker 1>area be like a smortas boarder for them. And when
<v Speaker 1>I was over at my friend's house, we were all
<v Speaker 1>sitting on his deck, as deck is about nine to
<v Speaker 1>ten feet above the ground. His cabin is at the
<v Speaker 1>back of his property, and we heard a couple of
<v Speaker 1>times footsteps coming up to the side of the deck.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't see anything, but you're gonna eat
<v Speaker 1>ask them year those footsteps gives you. They seem to, uh,
<v Speaker 1>if somebody's talking, then they feel encouraged to approach because
<v Speaker 1>I think they think the talking is going to mass
<v Speaker 1>there coming up.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you're not going to notice them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that and I've I put actually two cameras
<v Speaker 1>on the north end of my property, one that covers
<v Speaker 1>the door and another one that looks across the road
<v Speaker 1>to where I was thinking, where she was, where my
<v Speaker 1>dog was barking on the all the time. And the
<v Speaker 1>second the not that night, but the night after that.
<v Speaker 1>When I put that camera up, you know, I couldn't
<v Speaker 1>see them, but I could hear them because it has
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good mic. And oh yeah, they were walking
<v Speaker 1>around there. It definitely sounded like my pe It wasn't
<v Speaker 1>a deer or something. Yeah. They don't seem to like
<v Speaker 1>to show themselves too much, but to sound they're a
<v Speaker 1>little bit better with you know, I guess they think, well,
<v Speaker 1>you can listen to us all you want them, we're
<v Speaker 1>not gonna show you show you.
<v Speaker 2>This, So you put the cameras up to kind of
<v Speaker 2>discourage them, I assume from coming up by the door.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, what's what's even interesting? I had to so
<v Speaker 1>I got installed these two. I had another camera that
<v Speaker 1>was covering the door, but it wasn't working, so I
<v Speaker 1>had a red eli ed dot on it, and I
<v Speaker 1>guess I must have known that it wasn't working just
<v Speaker 1>from that that, Ellie, Do you know weird? These guys
<v Speaker 1>are pretty pretty intelligent.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you worked at Lockheed Martin. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what you did there, but I would assume that you're
<v Speaker 2>a pretty smart guy.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess so you don't necessarily have to be
<v Speaker 1>a smart work there, But.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just I'm sure you've put thought to this.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how do cameras keep them away? Like they
<v Speaker 2>can't know what cameras are? Can they?
<v Speaker 1>Uh? You know, I think they must at least that's
<v Speaker 1>been my experience. But boy, you know, when I when
<v Speaker 1>I first reved in here, you know, I wasn't too
<v Speaker 1>skeptical about bigfoot, but I thought they're more like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>a gorilla or an animal. But now, after all, this
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh my god, Hell, these guys are smart,
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have you heard any like talking or anything?
<v Speaker 1>Uh? One night, I did sure something. It sounded like
<v Speaker 1>a human talking Ashley in the maybe the back of
<v Speaker 1>the cabin close for my bedroom is and there's a
<v Speaker 1>slider up there, glass slidder, and so you can you
<v Speaker 1>can hear what's going on out there. I thought I
<v Speaker 1>heard the word understand, and it sounded perfectly like a
<v Speaker 1>human voice. And then I heard a kind of a
<v Speaker 1>grunt or a bark or something that sounded very ape like.
<v Speaker 1>Right after that. It's like I said, yes, I understand.
<v Speaker 2>And there would be no reason for humans to be
<v Speaker 2>out there.
<v Speaker 1>No, no, especially that when when my door has tried
<v Speaker 1>that one night. Uh. The only two cabins that are
<v Speaker 1>close to mind are short termentals, and it was raining
<v Speaker 1>that weekend, so I don't I don't think they were
<v Speaker 1>read it out. And I doubt that somebody'd be dumb
<v Speaker 1>enough to come around and try your door in the
<v Speaker 1>middle of the night. Yeah, because yeah, because you're probably
<v Speaker 1>gonna get shot by Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Have you noticed anything missing around the property?
<v Speaker 1>Not so much. I didn't notice. I had this mental
<v Speaker 1>garage put up and ran an extension court over there
<v Speaker 1>gets some electricity, and I noticed that that had been
<v Speaker 1>pulled up by quite a bit. I don't think it's
<v Speaker 1>my dog did. Yeah, that's about the only thing I've noticed. Really.
<v Speaker 1>I'd look for see if maybe they put a handprint somewhere,
<v Speaker 1>but no, not too nothing that I've seen. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's been kind of a weird thing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really surprising. So I have a cousin that
<v Speaker 2>used to live in one of those big a frame
<v Speaker 2>cabins with the glass walls, and it was terrifying to
<v Speaker 2>be there at night time. I mean, there wasn't anything
<v Speaker 2>going on, and I was a little kid. I mean
<v Speaker 2>maybe there was and I just didn't realize it. But
<v Speaker 2>just like knowing that you're looking out in the darkness
<v Speaker 2>but there's woods out there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>So like the the idea of one of those glass
<v Speaker 2>wall cabins like that with like bigfoot running around, that's
<v Speaker 2>pretty unnerving, man.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I thought there's still coming around, but
<v Speaker 1>maybe on the south side. I don't have the cameras.
<v Speaker 1>She will bark about every night about she's I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>eleven or so that's about usually the time I go upstairs,
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like a lot of the weird stuff
<v Speaker 1>will happen either after I go upstairs, or after I
<v Speaker 1>turned up the lights up there. You know, it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of like to see, oh, okay, the coast is clear. Now.
<v Speaker 2>Now, have you gone out and looked for any like
<v Speaker 2>tracks or sign or anything around your property, like outside
<v Speaker 2>of your property?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Nothing, I've looked up and down. In fact, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I even got a little infrared attachment for use on
<v Speaker 1>your phone, and I'm more around with that the whole
<v Speaker 1>perimeter of the property of the cabin and everything, and
<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything out of place. But after that, I
<v Speaker 1>think they saw me doing that. I kind of stirred
<v Speaker 1>them up because my dog was out there barking none
<v Speaker 1>stopped practically all.
<v Speaker 2>Night long that same night, well not just that same.
<v Speaker 1>Nut, but a couple of weeks for a couple of
<v Speaker 1>weeks after that. Huh. So it's kind of like they
<v Speaker 1>knew what I was doing or what I was up to,
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of I mean, it's not like they
<v Speaker 1>came up and attacked the cabin or anything, right, but
<v Speaker 1>she seemed to it seemed to be a lot more
<v Speaker 1>activity I've had to She's been out there and barking
<v Speaker 1>and get into mistress so much I had to keep
<v Speaker 1>her in the cabin. Now, because well, these people don't
<v Speaker 1>realize what she's falling darkly at. She's actually doing them
<v Speaker 1>a service but keeping them sasquatches away. So but she'd
<v Speaker 1>go over there and chip their shoes. So now they're
<v Speaker 1>going to get them their shoes probably completely disappear. They
<v Speaker 1>don't blame me again.
<v Speaker 2>You know, have you seen like anything like orbs or
<v Speaker 2>anything like that.
<v Speaker 1>No, and uh, oh, you were talking about language earlier
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine. He's the local author. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if you know John Vendor Venture or something kind of
<v Speaker 1>weird last name. Yeah, he's uh made some books and
<v Speaker 1>fictional you know, but it deals with a UFOs and
<v Speaker 1>bigfoots in this local area in Tallaheena, you know. So
<v Speaker 1>it's I started reading those and then I met him
<v Speaker 1>down by the store one night. But he sent me
<v Speaker 1>a message on Facebook. He said, Amen, there's some some
<v Speaker 1>big foot activities south of the cabin. I heard a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of vocalizations last night, so they're around, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the when you go down in the galley, I mean
<v Speaker 1>in the gully from uh my cabin, there's a rock
<v Speaker 1>creek down there. So that's all for now, but I
<v Speaker 1>can pretty much remain concealed, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's.
<v Speaker 1>Probably what they're doing. A couple of weeks ago, I
<v Speaker 1>met a guy who, uh had a real nice piece
<v Speaker 1>of property. Uh I think it's five acres, but he's
<v Speaker 1>he said, this one female on his propperty. He claims
<v Speaker 1>that she's tried the door like seven times. They had
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of they had a bunch of footprints and
<v Speaker 1>everything else. And his property sits about the has a
<v Speaker 1>real nice pool of water, and then the river it's
<v Speaker 1>a little bit further away. It's like, wow, this would
<v Speaker 1>be perfect for a sasquatch. But yeah, it's I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what their intent is when they come up and
<v Speaker 1>try the door. Fortunately I had the door locked that night,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a little bit better now about keeping up
<v Speaker 1>a light after that happened. I have accidentally left it
<v Speaker 1>a lot before. I was like, well that was time.
<v Speaker 1>I think.
<v Speaker 2>It's just crazy to hear this kind of stuff, because,
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty twenty five years ago, there was a
<v Speaker 2>lot of belief that the bigfoot in that part of
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma were more aggressive, and you had a lot of
<v Speaker 2>aggressive behavior going on, and yeah, I mean I could
<v Speaker 2>see where slapping the sides of cabins and trying doorknobs
<v Speaker 2>would be considered aggressive.
<v Speaker 1>It is a little aggressive for me. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>this main entry door was mid a glass and it's
<v Speaker 1>only got one title, so that would be the easiest
<v Speaker 1>thing for them to get through and only wanted to
<v Speaker 1>get me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would guess they just do that sort of
<v Speaker 2>thing to try and get a reaction out of you.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have maybe that'd be ah, that would be
<v Speaker 1>a little bit unerving. You wake up to a big
<v Speaker 1>foot standing up you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's nightmare fuel buddy. I would just be
<v Speaker 2>done right then and there. That's it for me. What
<v Speaker 2>kind of stories have you heard from, like your neighbors?
<v Speaker 1>Oh? That one and uh, this guy in me that
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about, the author and his wife have
<v Speaker 1>both seen them. I guess they were up here before
<v Speaker 1>they came around and harvested a bunch of the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Look at woods and apparently there's a lot more happenings then.
<v Speaker 1>But he was outside of me. He thought he heard
<v Speaker 1>his wife saying hey John, Hey John, on three or
<v Speaker 1>four times. So I went in there. He goes, what
<v Speaker 1>do you want? She shouldn't been calling him at all.
<v Speaker 1>She's doing the dishes the whole time. That's a little
<v Speaker 1>bit bigfoot humor, I can.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so weird. They seem to be so smart.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm wondering what abilities do they have, you know,
<v Speaker 1>they from what I've seen, I haven't see they must
<v Speaker 1>have some kind of cloaking thing, you know, read things
<v Speaker 1>about for being hollow and that that I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty years ago, I would have said absolutely not,
<v Speaker 2>there's no way, you know, But now I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>You know, there there was a guy that I had
<v Speaker 2>on the show that I talked to that is also
<v Speaker 2>from Oklahoma, and yeah, I know a little bit of
<v Speaker 2>his background. You know, we didn't talk about it on
<v Speaker 2>the show or anything out of respect for him, but
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he swears up and down that he saw
<v Speaker 2>one going in and out of transparency for like twenty
<v Speaker 2>minut Him and a buddy just watched it out like
<v Speaker 2>it was going in and out. He called it like
<v Speaker 2>it was like glitching, like it was trying to and
<v Speaker 2>then it would come back in like it was broken
<v Speaker 2>or something. And it sounded like a technology type thing,
<v Speaker 2>And that just kind of blew my mind. I had
<v Speaker 2>never even heard it described that way before. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I don't know what to think because
<v Speaker 2>you you know, with the cameras all that weird stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But even then it seems like, okay, well the cameras
<v Speaker 2>should catch them at some point. Surely you you'd be
<v Speaker 2>able to see something, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, that seems like, well, maybe a juvenile one you
<v Speaker 1>might be able to catch because they're probably not quite
<v Speaker 1>as adept doing all this crazy stuff, you know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I already talked to my friend who's done throat.
<v Speaker 1>He said he'd be to come on your show too,
<v Speaker 1>since he's been here for twenty years. He has all
<v Speaker 1>kinds of crazy stuff. They used to have stuff that's
<v Speaker 1>about every night. They had to start locking up the
<v Speaker 1>tools because they start disappearing. Because they built his cabin themselves.
<v Speaker 1>It took about five years him in his friend of us.
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen any UFO stuff there?
<v Speaker 1>No, The friend of mine that lives moore of the village,
<v Speaker 1>he saw something. It was kind of like football shaped
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if it almost sounded like a
<v Speaker 1>media or something. But yeah, there have been a lot
<v Speaker 1>of orbs associated with sasquatches and Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>What's your take on that?
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure maybe they're able to have some kind
<v Speaker 1>of outer body saying that goes and looks. Maybe that's
<v Speaker 1>there another building they have. It's almost like these guys
<v Speaker 1>are super creatures. Crazy stuff. That new movie by David
<v Speaker 1>Ladies goes into a lot of that kind of thing too.
<v Speaker 1>Five or ten years ago I probably would have said
<v Speaker 1>no way. But now after you're living there experiencing things,
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that seems to be the deal. None
<v Speaker 2>of it makes logical sense. But then whenever you're sitting
<v Speaker 2>there experiencing it firsthand.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's hard to write off. Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 1>It's like the first slap or body block I got. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I was a classic, Like what was that that? I
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, I know what that was.
<v Speaker 2>The one that ran across your porch that you said
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a gray color. Could you tell if
<v Speaker 2>it was upright or on all fours.
<v Speaker 1>I think it was on old foes, kind of like
<v Speaker 1>you know girls how their knuckle walked like that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's the impression I got, And I saw it through
<v Speaker 1>this side window. It seemed to be bigger than my dogs.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that was her. I heard her a
<v Speaker 1>little bit further away. I don't think she want to
<v Speaker 1>come right up on it, but she's doing her best
<v Speaker 1>to learn me. Well, if you don't have a dog
<v Speaker 1>out here, you definitely.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to think about a person that like
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have any clue that these things are out there,
<v Speaker 2>or won't even entertain the thought, and then they live
<v Speaker 2>somewhere like where you live and start experiencing these things.
<v Speaker 2>What would be going through their mind?
<v Speaker 1>Like, well, yeah, my friend told me about he's getting
<v Speaker 1>this cabin slapped about every night, and he thought it
<v Speaker 1>was his eighty year old brother doing it. No, I
<v Speaker 1>dought if this old brother's going to be doing that
<v Speaker 1>track every night, you know, three thirty or four or
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. So I guess some people just have
<v Speaker 1>this mindset, you know. Oh, no, I can't exist. I
<v Speaker 1>could kind of understand that because I haven't seen too much,
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's just a lot of stuff has happened.
<v Speaker 1>And having Blocie hearing my dog kind of confirms it too,
<v Speaker 1>because she'll react to it. If I was here by
<v Speaker 1>myself at any dog, I might be thinking, what did
<v Speaker 1>I really I really hear that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, how did you get interested in the subject?
<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, I was interested in David Plady's missing for
<v Speaker 1>eleven and that's kind of what drew me into it.
<v Speaker 1>I had a rental cabin down and broken both for
<v Speaker 1>about eleven years, and so I just went on Facebook
<v Speaker 1>one night and found out about that. And it seemed
<v Speaker 1>at the time to be associated with sasquatch and Bigfoot,
<v Speaker 1>although not necessarily if that's the cause or not. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's another weird one. Yeah, and UFOs too. You said
<v Speaker 1>the disappearances are associated with sasquatches and UFOs, which is
<v Speaker 1>you would think that's another weird thing. How can those
<v Speaker 1>two coexist or intermingle or whateverever you would like to
<v Speaker 1>put it.
<v Speaker 2>I heard a few stories whenever I first got in
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot about people claiming to see like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>a UFO hovering over a field and landing and then
<v Speaker 2>like bigfoot running out of it and into the woods,
<v Speaker 2>or a UFO bigfoot. And then it seemed like you
<v Speaker 2>never heard anything like that for years, and it started
<v Speaker 2>to come back again and people started talking about it more.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, you know that. When I heard that stuff,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, so you know, I might believe
<v Speaker 1>in UFOs, might believe in Bigfoot, but I didn't think
<v Speaker 1>the two would be almost the same subject, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean you worked for Lockheed, so you
<v Speaker 2>guys were responsible for all the UFO stuff.
<v Speaker 1>I did see a couple in sunny California when I
<v Speaker 1>was there years ago. It was about maybe one third
<v Speaker 1>or two at night, and a couple of extremely bright
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could call it orbs, but they seem
<v Speaker 1>to be fairly high, and they would have for a
<v Speaker 1>while and move around in kind of weird arc and
<v Speaker 1>this and that. And I was pretty surprised just because
<v Speaker 1>anybody could looked up and see me, you know, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>millions of people in southern California. It wasn't out in
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the desert somewhere where you might expect
<v Speaker 1>to see something like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of activity that happens out in
<v Speaker 2>southern California and right off the coast there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, there's talk to might be some subterranean alien
<v Speaker 1>base or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I appreciate you coming on here and talking to
<v Speaker 2>me about the stuff going on.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it was good talking you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, feel free to hit me up anytime. And like, obviously,
<v Speaker 2>if more stuff happens, I'd love to hear about it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sooner or later, probably we'll be something happened, although
<v Speaker 1>it's been fairly quiet lately, at least for anobe.
<v Speaker 2>If you've had an encounter with Bigfoot or something else
<v Speaker 2>you can't explain, you'd like to share your story on
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com.
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<v Speaker 2>something in the woods.