NFL Cover Zero: Broncos Comeback, Eagles Offense, Colts Impress, and Cowboys Cruise!

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Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. All right, it's another episode of NFL Cover zero. We are week seven. Matt Jones and Drew Franklin had some technical difficulties at the NFL studios Lexington Branch, so we all went back home and you're getting to see us in our houses. My sound isn't as good because I don't have the modern technology of these other guys, but nevertheless, we're ready to go. Drew, I wouldn't say the most exciting week of football ever, but maybe a little bit more exciting than the last week. Did you enjoy today's action? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean any day I get to watch the NFL, I enjoyed it. Had a nice day on the couch where I literally just watched about every snap that I could, dabbled in red zone. But then I watched all of my Tennessee Titans. I couldn't miss that one. So a big day for me. Of Ben at Bennett kind of dislike.

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Speaker 1: This for you. For me, the problem with red zone is I hit there's a red zone nap that occurs that I simply cannot stop. Five point fifteen pm Eastern. I'm going to fall asleep. Generally speaking, it's going to be with the Cardinals are going to be on my screen. That's going to be my last memory, which means there's going to be visions of Kyler Murray or today Jacoby Brissette dancing in my head as I fall asleep. But the five fifteen Sunday Red Zone nap is undefeated for me. I usually wake up halftime of the second game, but I have not seen the second quarter of a four o'clock game yet this year in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Are you able to doze off though when it's kind of picking up the pace a little bit? Or is it just the second quarter of this slend.

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Speaker 1: I'm locked in for the one o'clock games through the Witching Hour, and I'm locked in for the beginning of the of the four o'clock games. But when we get in the second quarter, the Chargers are going to be playing on one of the screens. They said the Cardinals are going to be playing on one of them. I know that's gonna happen, and I'm gonna drift a sleep and then I'll wake up. It'll be halftime. Hanson is gonna be telling me how you know, well, you should have seen what happened in the Panthers game earlier today and like and then I kind of get back ready for the end.

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Speaker 2: It is a good time take a little break before we get to the night game. I made a nice soup during the second quarter today. Yeah, I could still see the game headed on in the background. What kind of soup did we make? It's an Italian minnestroni soup. I saw the rest of the on TikTok. I'm very excited. I haven't eaten it yet. It was for like for lunches, so I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: So did you when you say make a soup, did you mix everything together?

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Speaker 2: Did you?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I made three different meals today while watching football. I couldn't do all couch. The back starts to hurt if I don't get up, move around just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: For people who don't listen to our Kentucky show. I made a goal this year of learning how to cook. Not been successful. I think that's fair to say, really not successful at all. I think I might might actually know less about cooking now than I did nine months ago. So that's gonna now be a twenty twenty six resolution. We're just gonna fast forward it to another year and didn't get it then. Been a busy year.

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Speaker 3: But you haven't given up on it yet. I haven't given up. I mean it's not looking good, but I haven't given up on it yet. Well, let's go. We're gonna go through these games. I think you got to start with the game in Denver. Broncos beat the Giants thirty three to thirty two, and absolutely unbelievable. Forty six points were scored in the fourth quarter of this game. Forty six points. The Giants were up nineteen to nothing to start the fourth quarter. The Broncos score thirty three points in the fourth quarter, Giants score thirteen. Normally, that's probably enough to win in the fourth quarter. I could sit here and go back and forth, but I would say, if you were trying to show someone who had never watched the NFL, why is the NFL great? Wouldn't you just show the fourth quarter of that game today?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, sure it had a forty six points or whatever, but it just had everything. You had turnovers, big phil goals, guys making.

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Speaker 1: Plays, sad knickers.

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Speaker 2: Sad kickers. That was hard to watch. Get to that in just a second. But I saw the you know, we're big on the next gen stats. We always have a big next gen stat. They said that fourth quarter was the most improbable comeback for the seventh most improbable comeback since they've been doing next gen stats. That's how wild it was.

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Speaker 1: You know what, it was nineteen or nothing, then it was nineteen to eight when they made it twenty six to eight. I really genuinely. I remember they showed Sean Payton on the sideline. It was twenty six to eight and they were like nine minutes to go, and I thought, Sean thinks he has a chance. How naive is that dude? Like, look at him over there, acting like they're still in this game. I was mocking Sean Payton for like looking like this game wasn't over, and then he ends up having the last laugh. I think part of what made it great is bo Nix and Jackson Dart. Neither one of them. They're both young enough and reckless enough that you believe in any moment something great or horrific could happen. And I think that actually is part of what makes it so interesting because in that fourth quarter, they made some amazing plays and then they made some really stupid plays. And I think actually having those two kind of swashbuckling young chaps actually helped quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you kids and I they both have a little bit of swagger, you know. Dart had the full extension for the touchdown that looked like it would have been a game winner, but shortly before that he has the horrible interception. He's still doing like crossfield throws you shouldn't be doing, but pulling them off. But it made for an entertaining game. I was I'm kind of a closet or closet sean Payton hater. Did you see when he got the fifteen yard pilloty there at the end and how that.

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Speaker 1: Did for running out on the show?

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Speaker 2: I wanted them to lose just so he would have to sit there and eat it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I actually think that pass interference on that play was a little sketchy. I'm not sure if it was. I understand why he was upset. I did like the debate of was the penalty on the two and they get it on the one or was the piloty on the floor and they get it on the two? It sounded like the announcers were kind of fighting with each other about it. Brian dayball is like running out Sean Payton's running out. You rarely see though the coach arguing so much. He hits a flag. That's like something you see in the NBA with technicals. You don't see that a lot in the NFL, and in such a key moment. But they ended up winning the game, and so it didn't matter. A couple of things that stood out to me. First of all, Jackson Dart threw one of the worst interceptions of all time. I mean, he almost came back and it didn't matter, but that interception he threw. I mean basically, as long as he doesn't throw an interception, they probably win that game. But by throwing an interception, they get the ball in the twenty, they're able to score quickly. If they punt there, I think they probably run out the clock and are not able to win the game. You could not have had a worst sequence there by Jackson Dart, who otherwise played very well.

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Speaker 2: It was a horrible interception. It would like a guy made a play or batted ball. I don't know what the hell he's looking at. I mean he just threw it directly to the linebacker.

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Speaker 1: The linebackers like it feels like you'd seen just for sheer wits on the side.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you wouldn't have seen him directly in front of him to horrible, horrible look for him. But as you said, it's kind of what you're gonna get when you've got a gunslinger that just took over the reins.

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Speaker 1: He also had two touchdowns scored off deflected passes that and both of them deflected passes where it deflects and the guy catches it in stride and keeps running like that is again, if you just want to see the absurdity of football, you throw an oblong object and bounces off one guy, the other guy catches it, he acts like he was supposed to happen, and then everybody celebrates. I also need to ask a question about Jackson dark. You know, I black that people wear under their eyes. Start with this question, what is it supposed to do? What's it? What is the it testures the race?

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: People say that, but I know I tend to think that's nonsense.

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Speaker 2: The light hits this and stays here and keeps it out of your eyes.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Not really, I don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: It's more like war paint.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe it does anything. First of all, I've never played a sport where I felt like things were bouncing off my cheek and going into my eye and it was and it was somehow that was a distraction. But all right, fine, you have eye paint whatever. Jackson Dart, though he only has on one cheek. This is why I'm a little skeptical of him. Does he only want to keep the sun out of one eye? He's fine with the other? I being like, I don't understand Jackson Dart's eye paint, And as soon as I saw that, I thought the Broncos would win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the eye paint is kind of becoming. It seems like costplay for some of them, almost like a wrestler, like they're putting that on. You might have a guy looking like staying here before long Jackson Dark. He's more looking like a fifth member of Kiss than the actual reason where you're supposed to put it right under your eyelids.

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Speaker 1: Billy, your guys. Scataboo scored a touchdown for the Giants. He's becoming like a folk hero to people. Can I be the one person that's anti Scataboo. It feels like everyone loves Scataboo. Can I be con Scataboo? No reason, just hater mentality. I don't. Everyone likes him too much, and I just want to say I'm I'm anti Scataboo. He's done nothing to me, but I've decided Drew anti Scannaboot.

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Speaker 2: I love him, and he's good. He's real good. He had probably close to one hundred total yards today. But I mean, he's just one of those guys will just run through anyone, just lowering his head and he is barreling three knocked over the defensive lineman. A couple weeks ago, had a couple more plays like that today. He's just so fun to watch, an old school football player, all right.

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Speaker 1: So that brings me to the moment that most stood out to me. Of course, the Giants score. They go up two with twenty seven seconds left and the guy misses the extra point. Now they I believe the Giants signed the coup kid from it was on Atlanta, right. I think he is on their squad. Now. I couldn't be wrong about that, but let's just go with it and say, in case I think he's on their squad. I think he's on the practice squad. Bringing him up. What is the kicker's name who missed two extra points?

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Speaker 2: You're right about Coop Graham Godot has been their kicker, but he's hurt.

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Speaker 1: But they have three kickers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jude Macca, Timmy. I believe.

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Speaker 1: Jude Meca Tammy's Jude not gonna be on the team anymore. Tomorrow is his name? So he misses. He's apparently a former Rutgers kicker. I saw in the postgame that he said his dream was to play in Giants, or was to play for the Giants and hit a game winning kick, which is a wonderful dream for a guy that goes went to Rutgers to have. But then what happens when you don't hit the game winning kick? You actually miss two chip shots and you lose because of that? Did you and the cameras were not giving the guy in mercy? They showed him twenty five times in the last thirty seconds. Did you think it was a little much?

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Speaker 2: I did. And it's not just that they kept showing him, which the camera. The camera people are already vicious when they do this, but it's almost like they staged a sad area for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no one he came and talked to him.

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Speaker 2: But there's like this long bitch. He was sitting on the very end, like hanging on. No one was near him. I think they dimmed the lights around him a little bit, and then they just had the four K shot of him. I felt terrible for him. I mean, you got to make your extra points, but the tight shot of zoom and in over and over it was actually breaking my heart a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It felt like, honestly, the way it was staged, it felt like Sarah McLaughlin should be singing in the background in the arms of an angel. It was like those old commercials that she would have about pets that were being neglected. It was really sad. And the other thing was kicking is such a like solitary, terrible lifestyle. Nobody was even trying to act like it was okay. I mean you could see on the people's faces they were like, get him out of here, we hate him. Jackson Dart I think put him in a locker after the game was over. I felt really bad for him. I don't kickers, like right now, they're literally on the highlights. They're showing him. One guy taps his head and then just walks off. Not good day for him.

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Speaker 2: So I was wondering this as I'm watching him. I'm on my twentieth minute of watching him, sitting there sad because they keep showing him, And I wondered if if he just literally walked out and didn't go to the locker room because he knows he's fired.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so he's gone. This means gets up and open.

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Speaker 2: I mean if he literally just fired himself, like didn't go back to the locker room, and walked out to the parking lot in his pads and got an uber and stayed.

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Speaker 1: In Denver, I mean I would like that. How would that work? And you also miss kicks in Denver where apparently like anyone could kick at seventy five yards. He misses them both, and of course they end up winning the game. Brian Dayball. I don't know if you saw when the kick was made, he throws his hat on the ground like he was. It was almost like a comic anger moment. He throws his hat on down, throws his headset That's that may be the game that we look back and say That's why Brian dave Ball gets fired because if they win that and they're three and four with some momentum, it might have been different. Now two and five probably not happening for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking Giants are going to go blow out a very good Denver team through three quarters there and that Dave All is gonna be fine. They're building something, and now two extra points could go the other way. Some coaches. You'll see him comfort the kicker, you know, Sorry, pal.

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Speaker 1: We'll get him next time.

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Speaker 2: Now, not Davo.

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Speaker 1: That happened out. He's like, kid, find a job. We'll see what's next. The Eagles beat the Vikings twenty eight to twenty two. Jalen Hurts had, you know, people had said, where's the Eagles offense? Found it today? Devonte Smith one hundred and eighty three receiving yards. That's a crazy amount. And then aj Brown, who's of course been topic of a lot of conversations, one hundred and twenty one yards, two touchdowns. The quote after the game, Jalen Hurts said, after looking around, he quote uncovered his swag again. I'm not sure what that means, but maybe it means the Eagles are back on track.

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Speaker 2: He can call it swag. I think it's more they just opened the offense a little better. Got You mentioned Smith's big game, but aj Brown got two touchdowns. He even had a moment he yelled something after his touchdown with a mic caught him, like, see what happens when you throw me the ball? So instead of just kind of running up the goat with Saquon and Tush pushing in their way through the season, I think they're finally realizing that Hurts throw it around a little bit. He had a perfect passer rating today and they.

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Speaker 1: Flipped the Sween. He played great and for people who want to make the case, we often talk on my ESPN show about how the top four quarterbacks in the league are generally settled, and then the question is always who's fifth, because once you get past Mahomes, Allen Burrow, and Lamar, who's fifth. Jalen Hurts made the case for fifth today. You mentioned the touch push. Let's talk about the biggest takeaway of the game to me, which is the Vikings tried to figure out the Toush push. It reminds me of in hockey when people would say, well, why don't you just get a goalie that's really fat, Like that's always the for people who don't watch hockey. I like the idea of, okay, we want to stop the tushu, let's just have someone lay down. You did you like that?

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Speaker 4: Did uh?

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Speaker 2: It drew a false start. But even Jason Kelsey I saw he came out and he kind of explained why they would try it and said, you know, that makes sense. They're trying to get low to the point of contact, just you know, block up every space they can. But I wondered how you go up to that guy like, hey man, you're a great player, we love you, but we literally just need you to lay here.

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Speaker 1: Just lay down, just sacrifice yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, I don't know if there's more of an injury potential there for him, but that's that's quite the ass to just lay you down at the line of scrimmage there and have your teammatesuttal over here.

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Speaker 1: He did a little Conway tweety lay you down and softly whispered that they weren't going to get the toush push. I like the creativity. I mean, you know, for people who think the toush push shouldn't be illegal, I think it probably should. But for those that think you don't, you go, okay, what inspires this this creativity that got the false star which got him out of the way. So I just thought it was pretty good. Did you think the TJ. Hawkinson touchdown? Do you think it should have been overturned on review? He was very, very very upset after the game.

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Speaker 2: I like to call it first, and then I saw how mad he was, and I'm terrified if you know, his rage, so I'm gonna side with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of thought it probably was a fumble or probably wasn't a catch in completion, but I don't think I'm surprised they overruled it because the call in the field. I didn't think it was definitive. I never understand the whole. If it's not definitive, we change it.

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Speaker 2: I leaned that it was the right one bets and it was very close.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel after all these years you know what a catch is? No, Like I real the rule about the follow the completion of the catch where you have to like lay in, roll over, do your taxes, and then finish it. I still don't. I still don't really get it. I still don't really know the moment, especially when you're talking about on the goal line, where I thought if you cross the goal line the play was over. So I've never really understood how that rule works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're running back, and if you're running you just get the nose of the ball to barely good. But a receiver has to roll over three times and make sure they hold onto it for six seconds.

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Speaker 1: Works like a dog. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: It's very inconsistent depending on the crew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well the egos win. Carson Wentz playing the way did, I think makes it more likely that JJ McCarthy's given that job when he comes back, But still you could maybe see it going either way. Did you see there was.

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Speaker 2: A Carson Wentz blooper real all from this one game.

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Speaker 1: It was like, I see that.

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Speaker 2: It was like a season's worth of bloopers all from just this game. So definitely got.

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Speaker 1: To get rid of him. Well, Carson Wentz did get engaged at the castle in Versales, Kentucky. And for those of you that aren't from Kentucky, that whole sentence may sound strange that there is a castle and that then's name is for Sales and not Versailles, But go look it up if you've never seen it, There's a castle and Carson Wentz got engaged there. So I didn't have a lot, It doesn't have a lot to do with this game. I just felt like that was something that I needed to throw in there.

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Speaker 2: I took his move. I did it a month later, kind of copycat.

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Speaker 1: You got engaged there.

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Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, like really a month after Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: You got engaged at like Nate Bargatzi show. Well, we we went there after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we sell you there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Carson and I we're kind of the same when it comes to the romantic stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think you should have gotten engaged at Nate Bargazzi Show. I think that would be a lot. I think that would be a better story and probably something your your wife Abby would have been joined Crackers, h and Cardinals. This to me was the Micah Parsons is a Packer now game right, he had three sacks. I was kind of surprised first game of his career where he had three sacks. I think I would have assumed that that had happened in Dallas, but he also it was definitively when you knew when he was on the field. I mean on the Cardinals' final drive where they were driving to try to win the game. They take him out, they throw a twenty five yard pass, he comes back in, the announcers go Michael Parsons back in next play was a sack. I mean it was like literally you in that drive could see the difference between having Micah Parsons and not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, you know, Michah Parsons at his best that last drive. He absolutely wrecked them. It seemed every play if he wasn't getting a stat he was forcing them into make a mistake. He was in the backfield. It seemed like every time they dropped back. Kind of been quiet there in Green Bay. He's been fine, you know, he's had the injury, getting acclimated of things, but that was by far his breakout game. He's still a nightmare of a pass.

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Speaker 1: Well. Had kind of been surprisingly, like almost shockingly quiet up until this point. You felt it today. And he needed to play well because Jacoby Brissett was very good, had three touchdown passes. Cardinals had a chance down the stretch, just couldn't quite make the plays. While the game was fun, I think the more interesting thing to me was that the Packers had to sit on the runway for five hours before they came to the game, So I guess there were mechanical issues that made them have to sit on the runway before they came to Arizona. You know, I had a couple thoughts. First of all, have you ever been on a plane, Drew where they tell you they have mechanical issues before? Yes, I have two. I immediately want them to cancel the fight. I mean when they say we're having mechanical issues, and especially the longer it goes, I don't think there's any reason for it to fly. If you had been on that runway for five hours, would you have wanted to take off? No?

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have want have been on the runway either. I don't understand when they have the mechanical issues. Can we not step off? Why you all figure this out and I'll go inside to Chili's Two? Why do I have to sit here in this hot airplane while you're figuring out this mechanical Yeah, they don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They won't let you leave again, that like almost never happens. I'm with you. I don't like the mechanical issues, and I also don't understand how they can just fix it while you're out in the middle. I mean, I would think there would be need to be a garage or they need to lift something up. I've never Every time they do that, I feel awful about it, and I also start to get in my head when that happens.

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Speaker 5: So I'm impressed the packers were able to get over. Oh yeah, they did the walkthrough. I saw they played cards. But the craziest part was they had two planes and the other one had like staff, not coaches, and players, just like random staff members, and that one too off and got the Arizona.

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Speaker 2: It's like, why not let the other players turn around and then let the players go first? Like you have the media crew and the social media team gets to Arizona, but your players and coaches. I'm thinking order of personnel should have gone first off the runway there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'sh I like that, though. The social media people need to set up and then the players get there when they get there. The day started in London with the Rams beating the Jaguars thirty five to seven. There's very little to say about this game. I mean, Matthew Stafford played awesome. The game was actually never competitive. I mean, the Rams were up fourteen to nothing early Travis Hunter DIDs for his first touchdown ever for the Jaguars. But it was just it was brutal and it also they say there was I noticed on social media someone said that fans in the stadium started singing random songs during the game, not songs about the game, just people were starting up songs and they sang apparently Bruno Mars and they sang Robbie Williams. I guess a British singer that doesn't happen in America, but it does in Britain. Belli. Robbie Williams is got to be one of the only people that is massively famous in Britain. And only thing people know about him here is they made that movie with him as a monkey. That was the only thing that which I also don't think anybody saw. But they just decided to make a biography of him where he was a monkey, and he got good reviews. Actually, but did you see that movie? No, I have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: But no, you're gonna have to explain this one to me a little mill.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about. There's a cgi movie about Robbie. It's an autobiography of Robbie Williams, but he's a monkey. You are looking at me like I'm crazy. Do you not know about the Robbie Williams monkey movie.

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Speaker 2: I do not not at all.

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Speaker 1: Look look it up. There's a movie where Robbie Williams is a monkey and it got like really good reviews and it's called I don't know what it's called. It's called Monkey Robbie Williams movie, but it exists. I'm not just crazy.

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Speaker 2: Although I have to give Travis Hunter one shout out on it. I don't think he played much defense today, but they did throw at him one time on DeVante Adams and he made a crazy cornerback play past breakup in addition to his big receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big play. This was This was his best game for if you're kind of waiting to see when Travis Hunter was going to have a game. Even though they lost by twenty eight, this was the game, all right, Chiefs Raiders, Chiefs thirty one Raiders Nothing where she Rice comes back after six games suspension, immediately scores a touchdown. This was Billy's Survivor League pick, which made him get to move on as well as I won mine as with the Patriots too, so he and I are both involved. You are still out of it, Drew she Rice was gets a touchdown and Mahomes was pretty excellent throughout the game. There are very few things I've done my Chris collins Worth with Mahomes the only Tony Romo. He doesn't moan and pant quite like Collin's Worth, but Tony Romo starts giggling like a schoolboy with Mahomes as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks so good today, and that was someone that was doubt him earlier in the year. I just got apologize and admit that I was an idiot for not considering the importance of Worthy and now Rice in that offense. I mean, they went to Rice right away first touchdown the game. They get two in the whole game. But the Chiefs don't look like they've missed much as much of a beat since getting those guys back.

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Speaker 1: Well, offensively, they look like the Chiefs three years ago. I mean, I know they made the Super Bowl. He madeven, won the Super Bowl two years ago, made it last year, but they really haven't looked like the Chiefs of the first two Super Bowls. They really haven't looked like that since then. But there's I think the last two weeks they have and today was maybe the one that was the most impressive to me. I mean, it felt like they could have scored forty five and obviously if they kept Mahomes in the game, the Raiders had no answer. You know, I ranked them last week number one, as did you. I kind of feel more confident about that today than I did before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you could. Nothing changed for me really being the Raiders. The Raiders look so bad. At one point we had Kenny Pickett in. I don't know if you saw that, Kinny picnict Picket literally took a snap his first snap as a Raider and fumbled it and Chiefs recover.

00:27:42
Speaker 1: It's one of those days, so it happens.

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Speaker 2: I still wonder about the Chiefs defense a little bit. Chris Jones had a fun moment that went viral on the sideline today. I don't know if you saw that too. He was having a good time. But just a blowout win for them and they're so back, not that they.

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Speaker 1: Were left thirty first downs for the Chiefs today. The Raiders only had thirty plays. That is one of the more amazing statistics that I can ever remember in a game. Thirty first downs to thirty plays Romo. I think the most viral moment of the game, though, is Patrick Mahomes, who they go to do the thing which he's right never works, which is where you try to draw the people off sides and do the hard count. He does it. You hear him over the broadcast curse, did they have a microphone on Mahomes? How in the world did that? How in the world was that so loud?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that seemed like it was part of the bit. It was so loud. He says, I hate this. Never bleeping works.

00:28:43
Speaker 1: And it never really and so Romo's like, oh, it doesn't work, and then he fakes him out and they actually run the play and they get the first down. First of all, Amy Reid is brilliant. I love that entire sequence just.

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Speaker 2: Shows they're just toying people now, having so much fun out there. But that one the Raiders really it truly fooled him because you can see their defense kind of stand up, like they're thinking, you know, to go on and punter. What ever, But I've pulled it off.

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Speaker 1: It's a regular.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: Ashton Gentz is having a great year. He ran the ball six times today. Like they're just wasting that guy. He's having a rookie season.

00:29:16
Speaker 1: I genuinely believe if you're not a good team, then you shouldn't be allowed to have good running backs because we we we we have no idea if ashion gent is good. I mean, we just have no idea. And he he really is wasted on a bad team. It should be a rule that teams that are bad should not be able to to draft first round running backs because because it is a complete waste. He is the biggest waste of a player and it's not his fall. But if you don't have the offensive line, it's not gonna matter.

00:29:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a guy who could be special, it could be Rookie of the year. But then there that offense is also invested in Gino and Pete, who need to hang it up. That's showing that that's not working out for those two.

00:29:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, harsh to Gino. I love you. I like Gino. Ain't gonna be so mean.

00:30:04
Speaker 4: Rough year for Gino.

00:30:19
Speaker 1: The Browns beat the Dolphins thirty one to six, forty mile an hour wins in Cleveland. I think we've learned that's probably where they play the best, best game for Dylan Gabriel. In those thirty mile an hour wins. Cleveland had not scored more than seventeen points in the last eleven games. It had been what'd you say since nineteen seventy or something that was a different stat but eleven straight games where they had not scored seventeen. They score thirty one today in the worst whether they've played in throughout the whole thing. Probably more of an indictment on the Dolphins. By the time people listen to this Monday morning, Will Mike McDaniel still be the coach?

00:31:01
Speaker 2: This is the third straight Sunday who done this? How is he still here now?

00:31:05
Speaker 1: He said it, He said he's not focused on his job. Quote, I'm focused on my team. Maybe he should be focused on his job.

00:31:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has to be the nail on the coffin. I mean, I don't know what he could do anyway with two is looking like the worst quarterback in the league. He has hit another three turnover game. It's his third three turnover game this season, which is outrageous. So Mike McDaniel doesn't have much help, but I don't think there's much much time you can keep in there any longer.

00:31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, two was particularly awful, especially after the Latin comments last week about leadership and all that. I think you I expected him to play a little better, and he was really really bad, and the Browns defense got to the quarterback a lot. I think they're completely in quip mode. And if I think you have to get rid of Mike and Daniel if you just want to like Salvage having a decent year bigger picture, I kind of wonder if two is the quarterback in Miami. I mean they're gonna end up getting a high pitch. I mean you're probably drafting his replacement, right, Yeah, you have to. I mean quinn Ewers came in the game, took over and looked better than Ta today. So I think the Tua area is over and that's probably good for Tua. Go enjoy retirement to It was fun to watch you for a long time, but it's he seemed to have lost it. Yeah, I think that's unfortunate, but you're probably right. I'll as I seem to do every week. Let me hand the floor to you. Patriots, thirty one Titans thirteen, your former coach Mike Rabil comes back to Nashville. Did you find yourself pulling for the old guy?

00:32:40
Speaker 4: Uh.

00:32:42
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say pulling for him, but it was the outcome I expected. Titans actually jumped up early. I was surprised got an early. Phil Golden went up ten to three. I actually started talking myself into our new coach, Mike McCoy. If even told you in the past, my old Peloton.

00:32:57
Speaker 1: Name Mike McCoy, Yeah, well.

00:32:59
Speaker 2: My old Peloton name was Bike Vrabel. I thought about fired up Bike McCoy. I was so excited there for a quarter. But then the Titans became the Titan. I mean they lost Big jeff Jeffrey Simmons, the one player that can do anything. He got hurting. At that point, the Patriots did whatever they wanted.

00:33:15
Speaker 1: What about What about Drake May I mean there was a time where it looked like he was like looking at a potential percentage record. He was twenty one of twenty three. I mean, are we seeing him hit? We talked about this last couple of weeks, but are we seeing him kind of hit like superstar status? Yeah?

00:33:34
Speaker 2: I think so. I saw a good graphic today comparing his stats last year. In the turnaround he's had, it's really incredible. He made some great throws today, hit a long TD that really separated the game. While on the other side, I've got cam Ward, first year guy that I hope could make that stuff like Drake May, but he's backpedaling and fumbling for a scoop and score, looking like he couldn't tie his shoes. So it was just all systems failure. After we got up ten three in that game, had a little.

00:34:01
Speaker 1: Bit of hope. Are you giving up on on cam Ward? I mean, are you seeing any signs that of positivity or are you starting to question it?

00:34:11
Speaker 2: It's it's the same thing with Will Levis. It's the same thing with whoever is after him. The entire operation is so bad they cannot expect anyone to be good in that position. So sometimes when you see these sloppy turnovers, remember our guy Levis, you know he had some. He became a meme last year trying to throw it out. He's going down a few times. I think they get to desperation where they're just trying to make plays because the offense is so bad. So it's really hard to judge any of them.

00:34:34
Speaker 1: Well, and this is the third straight guy who was the quarterbacks from Liberty. Uh what was his name before? The one before Levis? That led us?

00:34:42
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Yeah, I went to the Packers. Why am I drawing to Blake?

00:34:45
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:34:46
Speaker 2: He was our big draft pick. He was our future Milik Willis.

00:34:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, Blake Yeah. So I mean you've had three straight of these guys at some point, maybe it's not their fall.

00:34:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Willis was supposed to be it.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Rabel, they didn't honor him. What do you think.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: The crowd honored him there? The Fray chants were very, very lowed through the TV is, mostly at the end of the game as he was leaving. But he got a lot of love from the hometown crowd. Not surprised that the organization didn't honor him with the way that ended, but Nashville let him know that he's loved.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw when he came out, he just kept shaking everybody's hand and he was getting much I think more people in the stadium were cheering by first of all, how many people even knew who Mike McCoy was when he walked out. I mean, do you think any of the any of the fans even recognized who their coach was. God had to be a cool moment for Brabell. You always liked seeing the coach return to the place where he did, where he won. As a matter of fact, that happened for a defensive coordinator as well. Dennis Allen for the Bears was able to get the victory against the Saints, even though it was at home. The Bears win twenty six to fourteen. They kind of were rolling throughout most of the game, led twenty to nothing at one point, but then the Saints make at twenty fourteen. I start to get nervous, but the Bears defense bears down. And now Caleb Williams has played multiple good games in a row. Bears are four and two. Are you on my Bears train?

00:36:16
Speaker 2: I'm believing they got the young offensive talent. Was this four wins in a row, four wins in a row, should have won that week one game close there?

00:36:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a believer.

00:36:26
Speaker 2: I've even poked fun at you about Caleb Williams in the past, thinking he's not the answer. But even though it wasn't the best version of him today is still a big win, and they're hot right now.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like what I see. I think he Ben Johnson's made such you could see flashes last year that Caleb could play. But I love the decision making and I love the creativity in the way they use him. I think they use him absolutely perfectly, and it's nice to have. It's nice to watch Chicago fans with hope. I think the Bears fans have been sort of not down for so long that they almost didn't believe that this would work with Caleb, and I think it had. And the Saints like they continue I mean they're one in six or whatever, but they continue to be competitive in these games. Chris Olave had a big game today as well. I still think the Saints are going to beat somebody at some point this year that it's going to be a big loss for that team because of the bad teams. I mean, they're much better than the Titans, They're much better than the Jets, They're much better than the Dolphins. I actually think they're the sneaky good bad team this year.

00:37:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Olave has been great. I don't know if they wanted to use him as a trade piece at some point or something. But he's another guy just being wasted on a great team or on a bad team because he's great.

00:37:43
Speaker 1: I saw it.

00:37:43
Speaker 2: Even though they've been close and knocking on doors. It is their worst start since nineteen ninety nine, So it's bad times down there in New Orleans to start the season. Spencer Ratler got hot there for a while, but I think he cooled off for us.

00:37:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually I don't think Spencer Rattler is all that bad either. Again, compared to some of these other bad quarterbacks that are playing, I actually don't think he is as bad as a lot of those guys Panthers and the Jets. You know, when you see Panthers and Jats, first of all, you know what you're in for. But I don't think you knew you were going to be in for the sound quality they had. It sounded like an old school AM radio broadcast of a church in rural West Virginia. They said they were underwater, they had some sort of technical issue. I kind of loved it. I felt like I was watching a game on local broadcast television in the seventies.

00:38:34
Speaker 2: How about the Panthers Now above five hundred, they're win a big time and I saw poor mew Mix. They shut down meow Mix and the Panthers are three and oh.

00:38:43
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought this up. I want I wanted to talk about meow Mix. First of all, if you remember a few weeks ago we talked about the Panthers podcast, meow Mix decided randomly after week four of the season to quit. Weird time to quit three or four weeks into the season. I think the Panthers have turned it around in honor of mew Mix. And I want to say to the people who run me we have been trying to get in touch with you. I've been trying to get in touch with We've had the NFL trying to get in touch with you. Meow Mix is now officially in What happened to them? Are they being held hostage? Where is meo Mix? And what? And now they don't get to celebrate. What is a Panthers turnaround?

00:39:26
Speaker 2: No, they're they're doing what they have to do. They're taking one for the team. If they come back and then the Panthers lose, the fan base will kill them. So they just have to stay hidden. The Panthers are three and oh. Since they've been gone, there's no way they can come out now. They have to stay quiet forever because they're they're stepping away. Actually worked, and I'm looking. I don't know many Titans podcasts, but if there's a Titans podcast out there, I need you to unplug and go away.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: Its gonna work for us.

00:39:51
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll string off three wins in a row.

00:39:53
Speaker 1: You did get a moment today where it was Andy Dalton versus Tyrod Taylor. I think that is. Actually it is twenty twenty five and we had an Andy Dalton Tyrod Taylor game. I think that in and of itself should he celebrated.

00:40:07
Speaker 2: Imagine you weren't watching the game to see, you know, Fields get pulled and keep it up with things, and you just happen to be scrolling through and Tyrod Taylor's throwing against Andy Dalton on your television with bad solid quality.

00:40:19
Speaker 1: Exactly well, you would have thought it might have been a game from two thousand and six, and you just happen to have turned it on. But yeah, it's exactly right. You are looking live at an empty Jets stadium for Panthers versus Jets. Justin Fields, by the way gets benched. Is his time done now? Maybe his time as a quarterback period. I mean he's now had kind of three failed opportunities in a row. You do kind of wonder if maybe today was one of the last two ros for Justin Fields period.

00:40:49
Speaker 2: I think that was it. I mean he's looked bad all year. I mean a couple of times he's made some plays with the speed, but he just can't see the pass rusher of Buetz coming at him.

00:40:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you fail with a with the Mayors and Steelers and the Jets when you're one and six and you're getting benched for Tyrod Taylor has been in the league forever. Probably not the best side, No, no, no, Probably the most impressive result of the day. The Colts go to the Chargers thirty eight twenty four, a huge winn, and they were up big the entire game. Daniel Jones. At this point, you have to say it's real, right, Like, it's not a fluke. When they're six and one, they've got the most wins in the NFL, they would be the AFC home field advantage, and they're winning games on the road like this, definitively, it's not a fluke anymore. Daniel Jones said. The meat clearly the media didn't know because they don't know anything about football and saying they weren't going to be good. I don't know how anybody could have predicted this. You're officially impressed.

00:42:04
Speaker 2: Right, Oh yeah, actually been impressed a couple of weeks because the teams are beating Art Flukes. So they're not just out there beating the Jets and the Dolphins. They're beating good teams. They're not turning the ball over. I mean, they've had that stat They went three weeks to start the season without turning the ball over. He didn't have any today, and then his running back, oh, just another three touchdown days. So the Colts are for real. It's crazy to say they could be the best team in the NFL, but they literally have the best record.

00:42:29
Speaker 1: Are Yeah, I mean I don't think they certainly, they certainly impressed me today. I had that game on a lot of the time, and even though Justin Herbert had four hundred and twenty yards, right, so that looks like an amazing game. I feel like the Colts were on him the entire game. I mean, part of the reason he had four hundred and twenty yards. They were playing from behind the entire game, so he had to throw. But the amount of pass rush that team gets is unbelievable. Herbart got beat up. I mean, I don't know what his final total of sacks he took was, but he got hit an un believable amount of times. And you show that defense with Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones. I mean, I keep waiting for the other shoe to fall, But I don't know, Drew, maybe it's not gonna happen. Maybe all you had to do was get rid of Anthony Richardson and you have a good team. Yeah.

00:43:22
Speaker 2: I think the Colts are for real, and I think the Chargers can still get back to play better. They've lost three or four, but as you mentioned, that offensive line is so bad. I don't know what they can do to go out and find help. But they have to go out and get help on the offensive line because the moment all got hurt a few weeks ago, and they have a few others. His stats have been like he's has the most pressure, sacks, hits everything. I mean, he's just getting absolutely killed and running for his life these last three or four weeks.

00:43:48
Speaker 1: I do want to note on a crowd shot during the game, they showed someone in the Chargers crowd and they had a sign and here's all that The sign said fun. That was it. It just said fun. He didn't say let's have fun. It didn't say having fun. It just said the word fun. And I was sitting there thinking, what is the mindset that leads somebody to bring a sign it was hand painted to the game that just says fun? What can you What is it that they could have been thinking. It reminds me of many years ago. WWF had a pay per view in Cleveland called Invasion, and back then Drew you know this, in wrestling, people would try to make the most creative or vulgar or like Innuindows signs possible. And my friend DJ and I snuck into the fourth row of Invasion and we were very excited, and then this woman sitting behind us said you don't have tickets here. Those are not your tickets. And we were like, oh, they're not, but will you not kick us out? And she said, well, you're tall only if you hold my sign up in the air. So like next to me was a person who said who had a sign that was like rock bottom my face and the other one was like stone cold twenty four to seven, whoop, And I had to hold up her stupid sign which was glitter, and all it said was invasion. That's all it said, invasion. So everyone else had these creative signs, and I was in the line of the camera and I'm holding and now I'm holding a rainbow glitter sign that just says invasion. That's what I thought of today with the first in the Chargers just holding up a sign that said fun.

00:45:37
Speaker 2: They were you maybe they were part of a bigger, bigger operation. They got separated from the group. It was supposed to say Chargers football is fun, but they got different tickets and they got lost from the group and still went through with it.

00:45:49
Speaker 1: And somebody someone was just holding up a sign as it is, that's all it said.

00:45:53
Speaker 2: I went to college game day basketball at Rock many years ago. I was in college and they had dry erase signs that they passed out to the student section. They were part of that real quick. That was bad.

00:46:04
Speaker 1: That's a bad decision.

00:46:06
Speaker 2: They went and took them, passed them all out. They went and picked them all right back up about thirty minutes later.

00:46:11
Speaker 1: If Emai knows why the sign just said fun, I would be fascinated because I've racked my brain all day thinking why would a sign just say fun? I still don't have the answer. By the way, I thought on the camera there, I thought you just pulled out a cigarette and started smoking. I was like, no, it's like yet, I didn't even know you smoked, and you decided to do it tonight at midnight for the podcast Cowboys Commanders forty two twenty two. Definitively great performance by the Cowboys. Dak was awesome and it is clear George Pickens and Cebee Lamb together now that Lamb's back, that is a that's impossible duo to defend.

00:46:52
Speaker 2: That offense is pretty dang incredibly. I mean even their running back Williams has been good. Tight end Ferguson has stepped up Pickens and Lamb. I wonder how they could balance. You know, Pickens got a little bit of personality, he had problems in Pittsburgh. Turns out this fresh start has been great for him. But they are just a nightmare duo. And it's not that they're just getting open. I mean they're making some toe tapping highlight reel catches throughout the game. It was just a fun one to watch as they piled on Washington today.

00:47:19
Speaker 1: Some people think act like kickers are offense because I guess they're scoring points. Well, that's true, and you throw in Aubrey the kicker, the combination of dak lamb Pickens and Aubrey. I don't know how many teams have a four you know, a four person group better than that. I mean, the only ones you could say, I don't know, maybe maybe Jalen Hurd, saj Brown, Sakwon Barkley, maybe you know Mahomes, Kelsey Worthy, etc. And the kicker who is given political speeches on the side. I mean, but I'm not sure anybody would be better than this group.

00:47:58
Speaker 2: And Brandon Aubrey is a weapon unlike anything we've ever seen. He gets sixty one yards with ease, and it was like perfectly centered. It went right over the top of the post. But it would have been good from seventy five. And when he made it, they said, he already has the record for most sixty yarders in a career and he's only been around a few years. From the moment he got up on the couch when his wife said, oh you should go try that football thing, and now look at him I mean.

00:48:22
Speaker 1: He's but I still don't know. We've talked about this. I don't know how much I buy this now. I think I think all these records say that the fact that the kickers now get to massage their balls before the kicks, I don't think it's I genuinely think we have to look at it differently, and I wonder if coaches are coaching differently on it, like now you're in field goal range when you're at the forty five yard line, and I think it does. I think it's gonna lead to kind of a revolution. I'm gonna make you a prediction the NFL in the next couple of years is going to do something to make it to where they because if they don't change something, we're gonna be kicking seventy yarders regularly.

00:49:00
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the Cowboys to try it. I'm hoping we get a scenario where it's an end a half or may you're up big. But I want Brandon Aubrey to get a moment to try to break the record and kick one from seven.

00:49:10
Speaker 1: What is the record? The record sixty seven.

00:49:13
Speaker 2: And the preseason the guy hit the seventy yarder, but it didn't count for the preseason for the record. So the official records in the sixties, but we have seen a seventy yarder go through this year. Cam Little with the Javars.

00:49:23
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I knew very little about records in sports, but I could have told you Tom Dempsey had the field goal record. It was sixty three. It was just one of those things that everyone knew. It was like you were told, yeah, the record for most games played is this, The record for field goal is sixty three. And then I remember I think it was Jason Elam maybe tied at one time, and then since then it's like a record I can't keep up with. It feels like it changes so quickly.

00:49:54
Speaker 2: And with Aubrey, he's just insanely accurate too. He's going to be one of the most accurate kickers of all time. I'm wondering when it comes time to get to the negotiation with table with him, he's so valuable.

00:50:06
Speaker 1: That's a great question.

00:50:07
Speaker 2: I mean, when when you can when you have a guy who, as soon as you can cross the fifty is gonna get you three points, I mean, that's that's a kicker that deserves it.

00:50:17
Speaker 1: We've seen the Jerry Jones is very reasonable in negotiation, so I think that I think it should be I think it should be no problem to be able to UH to re sign Aubrey. And you also got to see one of my favorite things, which is the four thirty Dallas Cowboys game with the sun through the whole of the roof. I always enjoy that. You never know where it's gonna glare. It gives such it is such a bizarre I don't know if it's a home field advantage or not, because George Pickens ended up dropping a pass because of it. What do you make of the light problem they have when they play these mid afternoon games in Dallas. It's insane that they haven't fixed this already. Last year, Ceedee Lamb dropped a routine pass that hit him in the chest, but in the in the replay you can literally see that he's blinded. He says in the postgame press conference, he complained about it. So if you're all pro wide receivers dropping touchdowns at home and complaining about it, how have you not already fixed it. It's not an advantage that's happening to your own guys. Yeah, Jane Daniels hurt. We still don't as of this moment, know what's wrong with him. That concerns me a little bit. The fact that they haven't heard anything suggests to me it's more than nothing. With Jane Daniels, Marcus Mariota came in through an interception, picked six pretty quickly. I mean, the commander's the entire outlook for the team changes if they're out. This year, there were a lot of people's pick to go to the Super Bowl. I think they've been slightly disappointing, and if they lose Jaydon Daniels probably that's that.

00:51:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think ham Streen. I don't know how long that could keep him out, but Mario has showed today that he can't hold him on. He gave him two good weeks a few weeks ago, but that pick sixty through today was embarrassing. They have no hope if Jayde Daniels isn't healthy.

00:51:58
Speaker 1: He cut his hair though, by the way, after you gave him a hard time about that gray hair, he cut it a little bit shorter. I think you may have shamed him, which I don't think was very nice of you. San Francisco, San Francisco and Atlanta plays Sunday Night football. After a bunch of weeks of banger Sunday Night games back to back to back, you get kind of a dud. San Francisco wins twenty to ten. Michael Pennings Junior kind of got hurt at the end. We'll see what happens with that. Matt Jones plays pretty well, but the story is McCaffrey seven catches, twenty three carries, he had thirty different attempts to the ball. He's basically the forty nine ers entire offense, and it was enough to get the win today.

00:52:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they needed him there, even though Kittle came back. He was very quiet. I don't even know if he had a catch tonight. But the team that's been so banged up and missing everybody, McCaffrey pretty much was the offense. He went out and won of the game tonight, So that was huge by him. Mac Jonesty pretty many mediocre night. It was all McCaffrey.

00:52:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. The I am impressed though. I mean there you have to give San Francisco credit for how they are able to keep it going with all these injuries, including a quarterback. I mean, Matt Jones comes in We've talked a lot on this show about their schedule. I mean, they can be they can be mediocre and still win a lot of games, and they're still on pace to do that. So let's go over some news items to end the show. Doug Martin passes away at the age of thirty six. Billy is not able to be on the mic, but that was his former one of his most beloved players with Tampa Bay. So of rest in peace to Doug Martin. We don't know any more about it, but I know Billy would want to give that a shout out. Brandon Graham from the Philadelphia Eagles sixteen years he played, then he retires. They say, Mike, come back. I don't understand how guys who aren't doing anything for can just all of a sudden come back after not playing and be ready to go on a field, especially in a position like a linebacker.

00:54:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taking off so long, but I mean the answers were in front of us. We just talked about it. We got Andy Dalton versus tyrod Taylor. We had Aaron Rodgers versus Joe Flacco. I think everybody's seeing these forty year olds. I think Brandy Graham is probably pushing forty thirty seven thirty eight ish. I think everybody's like, well, you know what, I'm gonna go give it a go again. If he's old men or in primetime showing off, I'll give it a try.

00:54:24
Speaker 4: Well.

00:54:24
Speaker 1: That Aaron Rodgers Joe Flacco game was kind of amazing. I have to say. I mean, I'm an Aaron Rodgers hater, but he was great. And then Joe Flacco, I mean, Joe Flacco really is an inspiration because Aaron Rodgers is like an otherworldly talent. He's a Hall of Famer, but Joe Flacco has kind of just been above average dude his entire career, and even as above average dudes in his forties still playing, gets traded in the middle of the season, then goes and beats Pittsburgh in a game that was crucial for the Bengals. He might be able to hold down the fort until Burrow. Joe Flacco just continues to impress me. I don't think he's ever going to retire.

00:55:07
Speaker 2: I agree, And that game was so fun. I was excited to watch it, maybe expecting him be kind of just two old guys running around trying their best, but that was a heck of a shootout and combine for seven touchdowns. And even though Steelers have still de lead in the division, I'm not sleeping on the Bengals anymore. After watching Flacco connect with Chase sixteen times in that game. I mean, that offense looked good. He can keep it together until Burrow's back. I believe in it.

00:55:32
Speaker 1: I think Kirk Herbstreet was saying during the game talking about Jamar Chase, like are we looking at one of the best ever? And I kind of wonder, like he seems as unstoppable. I mean, there were guys in like Randy Moss who were unstoppable in part because their physical gifts were so amazing. But like for a guy who's little the way Jamar Chase as good as he is, I kind of hate that he's losing bits of his career when Burrow gets hurt. But he is an he is to me, he's the most fun player to watch as a receiver in the entire league.

00:56:08
Speaker 2: And when you're seeing what Flacco's done with him where you had this record setting night a couple of nights ago, it kind of makes me wonder, like, Jake Browning, did you just not see him like he's always opening, Like, did you not want to throw it to him? You have jamar face? How are you not able to get it to him? Just a little bit?

00:56:25
Speaker 1: Poor Jake Brownie. I don't know why I feel bad, so bad for Jake Browning. But when you have a job for a number of years, you lose it. A forty year old man comes in like dipping with Greg gray Beard and does better than you. It's got to make you a little bit self conscious. Hi, let's finish here. Monday Night football. Two games. I don't know. I don't love the two games because I think it's gonna be hard for me to stay up for the second one. But the first one's great Bucks and Lions. This will be i think one of the better games of the season. I'm excited to watch the Lions defense against Baker Mayfield. Who you got.

00:57:02
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Lions, but if Baker goes in there and does it well, I'm not shock me. Obviously, there's a two of the best teams in the league right now. I'm going to take the Lions to win it just because they look so good lately. But I'm I'm about to become a full Bucks fan with Billy. They've been so fun this year. I'm looking forward to watching this one.

00:57:19
Speaker 1: Lines are five and a half point favorites. That feels a little high to me. I mean it feels a little high considering that I think the Buccaneers can win the game. I'm gonna pick Detroit to win. But I think if I were to do the game, I think it would take the five and a half plus Tampa Bay plus two to twenty five is not ridiculous. The ten o'clock game is Texans at Seahawks. I love my guy Dan Orlowski, who I used to do the radio with. He has tweeted more about the tennis game than any person, like he's doing the game. And he said to me or he said in a tweet earlier today, Texas and Seahawks is the kind of thing that makes you love football. And I don't know what he means, like, how does Texans and Seahawks make you want to love football? The question is can I stay awake for this game? And I think the answer, since it starts at ten o'clock Drew is probably.

00:58:13
Speaker 2: Now, are you sure he didn't mean Texans at Seahawks will test how much you love football, Like, we're gonna really find out how much you love football? Ten pm a Monday night. Are you in for? It should be a good game. I don't know if I'll catch it being that late. I'll give it my best. I'm like Flackow and Rogers and you. I guess you know I need my need my sleep that late at night. But I don't know if this is one that you know, this loved for football.

00:58:37
Speaker 1: Like you said, well, it's a long weekend for football. I mean, when you're where you go, you start with Thursday night. Then Louisville played Miami Friday night. You had a full day of Saturday football games. Our Kentucky Wildcats played Saturday night. I finished my post game show at one fifteen in the morning. I got up at nine am to do ESPN. Now it's twelve thirty at night and we're doing it. The chances of me staying for Seahawks Texas, I think that's too much to ask of any man. So I'm gonna go ahead and say to you, the NFL zero listeners, feel free to let me know how it goes, and I will I will make sure to appreciate all of your comments.

00:59:14
Speaker 2: Well, are you're not excited about Sam Donald late night? He's been pretty awesome.

00:59:19
Speaker 1: You're acting like Sam Darnold is not a part of my thoughts every late night, and I don't think it's I think we can take one evening evening. All well, listen, Thank you all very much for listening. We'll be back on Wednesday to join you again. Drew, it's nice to see you. Who is that John Daly behind you there?

00:59:41
Speaker 2: We're oh my nme les.

00:59:46
Speaker 1: Is that John Daly?

00:59:47
Speaker 2: No, it's just at the Masters. They have a know him every year. This is the year I went. I got to know him.

00:59:52
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