Kevin Pillar announces retirement on FT, reveals Rangers missing link
Superman centerfielder Kevin Pillar officially calls it a career on FT. He tells us why he chose to announce it now and how it's difficult saying goodbye.
Why can’t the Rangers hit? KP lists some reasons for a disappointing sum of parts in Texas and the comments went a lil viral.
Hosts: AJ Pierzynski, Erik Kratz, Scott Braun
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00:00:00 Speaker 1: A lot of guys weren't like enjoying that we were winning games. You know, a lot of people got caught up in their own uh failures. It just kind of felt like there was a lot of panic setting in. 00:00:14 Speaker 2: Kevin polar Is here and styling by the. 00:00:16 Speaker 3: Way outy howdy. I gotta say something before we start. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: So one of you this morning you didn't see me coming back from the gym, and you are doing the. 00:00:27 Speaker 3: Show a disservice by wearing a full length. 00:00:30 Speaker 2: Oh not the cutoff action. One day, I just said one of you. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say who, you know? 00:00:37 Speaker 4: Who was to say, because if they had a cut off shirt or a shirt that was six sizes too small, it was Scott because that's normally what he wears. 00:00:44 Speaker 3: Jack from from him walking by. I was impressed though, in the show A disservice. 00:00:49 Speaker 5: Scott doesn't want a moon. 00:00:50 Speaker 4: Now long we've been trying to get into the shoe with no shirt on, he won't do it. 00:00:53 Speaker 6: Scott doesn't want a million subscribers because if he does a shirtless show, two hours of shirtless Scott, I couldn't say that too many times a million subscribers immediately. 00:01:03 Speaker 3: Would shows what you're doing in there. Show me what you're doing there. I'm in the. 00:01:09 Speaker 1: Gym and I've been working out my whole life, and you know, I kind of got off the wagon for a little bit since since I've been home and I'm walking around the gym not knowing what to do. 00:01:17 Speaker 3: I should have came in a little earlier and watched you. 00:01:19 Speaker 2: That is the thing is you. 00:01:21 Speaker 7: You can transition then right, like you can do more of like the beach muscle workout kind of stuff, so that you're clearly doing right. But baseball players, of course, baseball players can't work out quite that way because you've got to make sure you're all flexible and stable, not too tight whatever. Actually, there's we've had that segment. There's a few guys that I think, don't worry about that. They get hurt a lot. 00:01:42 Speaker 1: Super Yeah, he's not missing Chapman's miss Tyler O'Neil, O'Neill missing John Carlow. 00:01:51 Speaker 2: That's my point is there's a balance there. 00:01:53 Speaker 6: So if you would have gone in and you would have seen like six configurations of biceps and triceps, I need to learn. 00:02:00 Speaker 2: Yes, but there's no rules. 00:02:05 Speaker 7: I'm not competing in anything I'm just going there for a good time and looking feel good, and there's a guy scaring me next to me. It wasn't KP, but who who shouted out a couple of times, and I was like yelling at me, and he was singing in a very packed gym, singing at whatever it was. 00:02:20 Speaker 1: I was quite amazed, too, like the amount of people that go to a gym on vacation in Vegas. 00:02:25 Speaker 2: Vegas at seven in the morning. 00:02:28 Speaker 7: They have a lot of conventions and stuff, so there's some hard workers. 00:02:32 Speaker 2: Anyway, how's life? 00:02:34 Speaker 3: Life was good? 00:02:35 Speaker 2: You were in the bigs and now you're chilling. You got anything for us? 00:02:39 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, uh yeah, I guess I can officially say that I'm done playing. I wanted to be one hundred percent sure because of things I went through last year. I kind of said it was gonna be my last year. And I got into the off season and my mindset kind of changed. I talked to a lot of guys that are no long we're playing anymore, and they said, you know you, it's near impossible to kind of retire and then come back, right. So I wanted to make sure that I was really done playing. And it started kind of eating at me a little bit. I kind of missed it. I didn't like the way the year ended. Last year for me, I had the thumb surgery in the off season. I went through that kind of tedious process of rehabing. It got cleared to start, you know, playing catch and hitting, and I was like, you know, what if if I don't go back and try, I might have some regrets. And I'm very thankful that I went back and went to the spring training and you know, got a chance to play for the Rangers, and you know, it's unfortunate that it. 00:03:35 Speaker 3: You know, my my season was cut short. 00:03:37 Speaker 1: I was defade and you know, but once you kind of get on the other side and you get a chance to be home and be dad and spend time, and you know, for a long time, I thought about other things that you know, I've wanted to do, and I had other interest in hobbies, and you finally get a chance to explore those and do those, and you know, you realize how stressful being a major league baseball player is. You know, you you and I think for me, when I started to realize when I was away from the game, when I got to your faith that. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: I realized that as great as it is to. 00:04:05 Speaker 1: Be successful in the game and to have these highs and to hit these home runs, the things that you know, striking out or not being successful, we're going over your last ten, those things always outweighed the success I had in the game. Like I took the failure in the game way harder than I enjoyed the success. And I don't have to deal with the failure anymore. So I'm pretty happy. I wake up every morning excited to be dad and just kind of see what the day brings. 00:04:32 Speaker 5: True. All right, so congratulations on a great crew. We made a little video for you. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: Okay, let's see it. 00:04:36 Speaker 5: Let's get ready for this video. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: Yay, thank you, thank you. 00:04:40 Speaker 5: If that doesn't get you excited, me jumping out of a cake. 00:04:43 Speaker 2: And nothing, happy retirement and if you can tell me what EMU is. 00:04:48 Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's the place you were talking where Kratzy needs to donate money. 00:04:52 Speaker 5: Yes, thank you. They don't even have a covered batting case. 00:04:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's I heard that part. A couple of days ago. 00:04:58 Speaker 5: My son called him out for saying because he was listening to this. 00:05:00 Speaker 1: Hey, if you would have won that poker tournament. Could you have donated that money to your school? 00:05:04 Speaker 7: There's other great charities like yeah, yeah, he's got other big stuff. 00:05:08 Speaker 4: I would think they could use that money though, to cover the batting cage. 00:05:11 Speaker 5: Put a scoreboard. I don't know they have a scoreboard. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: What do you want? 00:05:14 Speaker 3: A video board? Maybe? 00:05:16 Speaker 7: Respectfully, I don't give a crap right now. KP just announced his retirement. So did you talk to your family? Did you want to announce it like this? Like take me more behind the scenes, also, just to how you know this season went early on, because. 00:05:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really thought about how I wanted to announce it, right, I mean, we talked a little bit last night, and I guess the only thing I was a little upset is I you know, not everyone gets kind of their fairy tale ending. You know, you play a long time, and you know, in my mind, I think about, you know, I remember where I was at when you know, Jeter had his final at bat I think about the Stephen boat where his kids were up in the you know, score booth and got to announce you know, his last event. 00:05:53 Speaker 3: He goes deep. 00:05:54 Speaker 1: You know, we talked beyond the scenes. You know, not everyone knew it was gonna be your last game. You knew it was gonna be your last name. You had an opportunity to have your you know, your kids, your your wife, your family, your parents, all these people that you know played a huge part in your baseball career to be there. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: You know. I wish I would have just got a chance to play one more time. You know, I would have loved to have been able to, you know. 00:06:12 Speaker 1: Call my wife and my kids and be like, hey, I think we're we're in Chicago at the time, Like, hey, I need you here, my parents, my brother, you know, a lot of people in my agent, a lot of people that you know, played a big part in my career. I would have liked to known it was gonna be my last game. But not everyone gets that opportunity, you know. And I think that's kind of where I was on the fence last year, is I I watched a lot of my former teammates that were much better players than me maybe go a little bit too long, and I kind of wanted to go out on my own terms. I want I wanted at least one or two people to think, oh man, that guy could still play. But when it's when it's taken from you when you get DFA. You know, no one's sitting here thinking like he could still play. It's like he got cut. He's done. You know, if I would have retired last year, people there might have been a handful of people out there like, oh, he probably could help a team still. But I don't think anyone's thinking that way. And maybe it's a bad way of looking at it, but that's kind of how it wanted to go out. But not everyone gets their ferry too ending. 00:07:09 Speaker 7: Hey, this episode is sponsored by Hewle, So I'm gonna take a sip while Todd Father tells you about Hewel and Todd Father, you asked me, when should I drink it? 00:07:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, they tell you. 00:07:18 Speaker 8: Really, it's the best thing for you before a workout, after a workout, whatever you're feeling like, sometimes I'll just drink this just because because it tastes that good. The flavor is very good. It's gonna make you feel it's gonna fill you up to good protein, and it's very appetizing. So for you people out there who are starting to work out or have been drink this, you're gonna feel very much energized and very much full, which is a great thing. 00:07:41 Speaker 7: Yeah, people that are having problems, you know, not having enough time to eat their meals Quel for you or a little post workout protein punch Fule for you. Start saving time and money without compromising your nutrition. Today with the ft offer for new customers fifteen percent off using the code foul at huel dot com. Fifteen percent for new customers using foul at huel dot com. See our description for the terms and conditions. Skip the stress, not the nutrition, Try Quel today for complete nutrition. 00:08:11 Speaker 6: Do you think teams realize what that means to players? 00:08:17 Speaker 3: No? 00:08:18 Speaker 1: I wish they did, you know, And maybe maybe they're listening to this now and maybe that's something they would factor in. But you know, I yeah, I mean I heard you guys talking to Dexter too. I think there's got to be a little bit more human side to it. And I get the importance of you know, every game in the major leagues, the difference between one game and one win and one loss could cost you the playoffs. But you know, I made the team on opening day. I you know, I wasn't I was good enough to make the team an opening day. I don't think I would have hurt the team by playing one more day you know, I think they could have, you know, allowed me to play one game. You know, they could have had a conversation and just said, hey, we're going to move on. We're gonna give you an up to play one more time. I would have loved that. But I also understand the business side of it, so you know, it's a tough thing. It's a tough thing they have to do, but it would have been nice to play one more time. 00:09:11 Speaker 4: Everyone wants to play one more game. I mean, even no matter who you are, even anybody do get that. I'm sure if you haves Derek Jeter, he's like, I would like one more bad or one more The thing with what you said, I agree with you said. It'd be nice if everybody got that opportunity to know that. But at the same time, what's the line you would draw? You know, certain guys Mickey and Mariano and those guys they announced its David Ortiz was my last year, and they went around and had their world tour and got gifts and guitars and surfboards and all this stuff. What's I don't know, It's like, what's the line you draw? You have to be a possible future, all of Amber. Do you have to have ten years in the big league to get that right, because there's there's, like you said, there's so many guys that just they don't know. One day they come in, they think they're doing all right, like you did. Yeah, and you're like, oh, by the way, you'r DFA And then you're like, you know what, I don't need to do this anymore. My family's good back home. So it's kind of a it's a fine line to what. 00:10:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's just a respecting. I think it's respecting. 00:10:02 Speaker 1: I give you respect the player and the respect his career and respect the you know, time that he's put into the game, and. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: You feel like, uh, you know, we want to do that for him. I would be really appreciated from a lot of players. You know, there's a lot. 00:10:19 Speaker 4: Of not every player though, it's not every player knows they're done. Yeah, like like you do, right, A lot of players are like, oh, I got dfit. I can still play, yeah, and I'm going to prove them wrong. That's kind of three in this farewell game. 00:10:30 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:10:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and maybe there's that side of it that I'm not thinking about it. You know, they're defaying me and maybe they think I'm gonna, you know, lay in somewhere else and finish out the year. But maybe just out of the chance that it doesn't happen, it would have been nice. And you know, I've been able to talk to some people and I thought it was really crazy. He's like, I, I, you know, when I got done, I got dafade. I don't even remember my last hit, and like, I barely remember it. I have to kind of go through like the roller decks because I think it was Robbie Ray. I think I had like a single, and then I came home and I went on the I L and when I came back from the ale, I think I pinched it one time. And it was just such a long gap in between when I played. And then then I got DFA and I was like, man, I think that was my last base hit. I mean it was over. I mean it's been like three months now, but you know it wasn't. It wasn't like quite like the story you told where you know it was your final at bad and you know it's a it's a memory that you had and you got to share with your family. You know, mine was kind of like a meaningless leadoff single in like the fourth inning or something. You know, it would have been nice to kind of know it was over and. 00:11:35 Speaker 2: But against the cy young winner. But yes, understandable. 00:11:38 Speaker 3: Yeah I threw that. 00:11:39 Speaker 2: Yeah that's not that's not bad. 00:11:41 Speaker 3: Just just in case I could still hit so with you. 00:11:44 Speaker 7: Obviously for me, you had a second half of your career here, but I think a lot about the first half in Toronto. 00:11:50 Speaker 2: So do you wish there was some connection there? 00:11:52 Speaker 7: I mean, obviously you can still go there now that you announced your retirement, and at some point they'll probably want you to throw a first pit do something. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: Right, and it's like give a little way into the crowd. 00:12:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would. I think it would be cool. I think it would be cool. 00:12:05 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be cool. Are you going to sign the one day contract? 00:12:07 Speaker 2: And I'm I'm glad I don't think so, but I'm glad you should. 00:12:13 Speaker 1: If someone if someone called me today and was like, hey, would you want to do it? 00:12:16 Speaker 3: Like you mean? 00:12:17 Speaker 5: Sure? 00:12:17 Speaker 1: I mean if it if it meant if I meant enough to them for them to want to reach out to me and do that, if I meant enough to that city, that organization, you know, why not. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to pick up the phone. 00:12:27 Speaker 1: And be like, hey, before I announce my retirement, i'd like to sign a one day contract. 00:12:31 Speaker 5: I'm glad you did this the way you do this, because we talked about this last night. 00:12:34 Speaker 3: The people you convinced me a little bit. But the people you're an intimidating guy. The people that wait like. 00:12:39 Speaker 4: Three years, they've waited like three years and they send a letter out that says, dear baseball, you were great to me. 00:12:45 Speaker 5: I'm retiring, no kidding. 00:12:47 Speaker 4: You haven't played for three years, Like it's so it's cool that you just and I haven't official, So maybe I should make my announcement. 00:12:54 Speaker 5: I'm retired. Guys, I haven't played for ten years. 00:12:58 Speaker 2: I got to. 00:12:59 Speaker 3: Send a letter. 00:13:02 Speaker 4: Like this is the way announce it. When you know you're done, you're done. Don't don't don't sit around and think about it for two years and be like, you know what got hump done? So awesome? 00:13:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm happy for you, Thank you, thank you. Yeah. 00:13:14 Speaker 1: I mean, if, like you said, if opportunities presented something like that, you know, I think that would be great. 00:13:19 Speaker 3: I mean, you played a long time, you played a long time. 00:13:22 Speaker 1: I'm about to have a baby too, and it's kind of a crazy thing that my next child that I bring into this world is. 00:13:28 Speaker 3: Gonna have no idea that I was ever a baseball player. 00:13:30 Speaker 1: So if that's something that could happen, maybe in like two three years from now, you know, get an opportunity to go back to. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: Toronto, maybe throw out a first pitch. I think that would be a cool thing, you know. 00:13:39 Speaker 5: But I teach you up for this because I sent you Yeah, no, no, no, we don't have it. 00:13:44 Speaker 3: We don't have it, do you think no? 00:13:45 Speaker 6: Because I didn't think we were allowed to like push it through for it's a highlight of of his first ever walk off. 00:13:53 Speaker 7: Oh well, it's probably just because MLB is the most restrictive sport on the planet. 00:13:58 Speaker 2: There's that. 00:14:00 Speaker 6: But if you go back to Toronto, will you ask me to be there to catch the first pitch? Since without that first ever walk off, and you would never be you without. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: You're definitely high on my list. 00:14:14 Speaker 6: Me and kp Our lockers were next to each other in Toronto, and the only reason our lockers were next to each other is because they would send him. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: Down or they would send me down. 00:14:22 Speaker 6: The third catcher and we had a joke we were the twenty fifth guy on the roster, and so for him to do what he ended up doing in Toronto, for me was like something that it was amazing because it was legitimately, hey, you know, are they going to send me down because they don't need a third catcher for four days because Dickie's not pitching, or are they going to send him down? And he was doing stuff that was great for the team, but it was early on the Alexanthropolis train and he saw he had options, so he would just move him in and out to get ten years after that, I saw that from the beginning. 00:15:00 Speaker 5: It's amazing. 00:15:00 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you. I want to ask you guys too that you brought this up. You know, I look at transactions a lot, you know, I read what's going on, and I maybe I didn't watch as intently when I was playing. I'd maybe like scroll through it to kind of see what's going But it seems like every day. 00:15:15 Speaker 3: There's hundreds of moves. 00:15:16 Speaker 1: And I know I ran the shuttle for a while, you ran the shuttle, but it always seemed like it was like the same two guys. You know, it was like you kind of knew, like in the fourth inning, like, oh man, the starter went out early, we're gonna use a bullpen day. 00:15:28 Speaker 3: You're like, I hope it's him. 00:15:29 Speaker 1: I hope it's not me, because one of us is leaving. But it was always like one or two guys. But it seems like every day there's like ten fifteen moves. There's like guys opting out, you know, sending guys up and down. I mean, is that something that's. 00:15:42 Speaker 5: Because they changed the rules. 00:15:43 Speaker 6: Yeah, because Ismael Rogers, Ismil Rodgers was gonna get sent down or called back up because they used all their innings and you or I were going to go back and forth. You used to be able send a guy seven times. Now it's you can only do five, which sounds like a crazy numbers. 00:16:01 Speaker 2: It's a whole lot. That's once a month. 00:16:03 Speaker 6: Basically, it's crazy to be able to send that many times. So, yes, you're seeing it exactly right. 00:16:08 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:16:09 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, I feel like rosters used to be constructed with like some flexibility, and there was always kind of some expendable guys. 00:16:16 Speaker 3: Maybe you know, younger bullpen guy. 00:16:20 Speaker 1: Maybe you had like a you know, a younger utility guy, and you could kind of shuttle them up, but it seems like every day there's like teams are making two or three moves a day. 00:16:30 Speaker 5: It's a lot, all right. 00:16:32 Speaker 7: Harry's is going to get an award here MVP in the shaving world and aj if you want to equate it to things that we talk about, it's not expensive and it's super versatile right the company itself, because there's other products that you can get on the site, do odorate, body wash, et cetera. But for your everyday shaving needs, Harry's has you covered. 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I want to ask you first. We'll go backwards, so let's start with this year. What was it like to be part of the Rangers? What was the experience like? Obviously a lot of people want to know why the team isn't hitting. 00:17:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean things, things. 00:17:58 Speaker 1: Sometimes a little bit, your perception of a team can be a little bit different than you actually. 00:18:02 Speaker 3: Get into spring training and you're around the guys. 00:18:05 Speaker 5: And. 00:18:07 Speaker 3: It was a little bit different. 00:18:08 Speaker 1: You know, them coming off of winning a World Series a couple of years ago. 00:18:12 Speaker 3: That was the team that I thought I was joining. I never won a World Series, you. 00:18:19 Speaker 1: Know, I went deep in the playoffs a couple of times. I know, I can only imagine what it's like to win a World Series. The off seasons different and you know, a year removed from that, you know, and that's what they talked about. It was just a different offseason. They struggled the year after winning the World Series. Guys didn't know when to start training. You know, you're on these you're celebrating, You're on this tour forever, rightfully so, because it's probably the greatest feeling in the world. 00:18:43 Speaker 3: But I was happy I went. 00:18:44 Speaker 1: You know, I had just moved my family to the Dallas area, so that was kind of a dream come true. Even though it was sure to you know, live at home, take my kids to school in the morning, and then you know, feel like I was going to work. You know, it didn't feel like you know, I didn't have to rent a place that wasn't in a different place. My kids got to live a normal life. They went to school, they had their activities, they had their sports. You know, my family was there. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: It was great. I wish it would have lasted longer. 00:19:12 Speaker 1: I wish I ild got a chance to you know, perform a little bit better and play a little bit better. 00:19:17 Speaker 3: And you know, like I mentioned, go out of my own terms. But no regrets. 00:19:21 Speaker 6: What are some of the things that you anticipated going and that weren't there something that you could elaborate on a little bit. 00:19:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, uh, you know, you know, listening to a dexter the other day, you know, I thought they would be a little bit tighter as a group. I thought it would be like, you know, kind of like my experience in Atlanta. That was probably one of the tightest groups since you know, I was in in Toronto. It's like everyone just you know, pulled on the same rope. Everyone wanted to hang out, everyone want to do everything together, everyone one. You know, winning was the most important thing every day. And uh do when I got in the clubhouse in Texas and there's a there's a lot of talent in there, and there's just a lot of individual stuff going on. A lot of guys are doing their own thing. You might not see people till the game uh goes on until Yeah, guys are kind of just doing their own thing, whether they have their own room and and there's not a knock against people that have their own routines, right, Some people, you know have routines where they do like training room and they do their own stuff in the weight room. You know, they have everything kind of timed out. You know, as you get older in the game, you were in that right to kind of like, this is how I go through my routine. No BP, Yeah, not a lot of VP, not a lot of uh, you know, stretching together. And I just felt like maybe for me just being kind of the outcast because a lot of the it's a lot of the same guys there that won the World Series, So maybe I was kind of on the outside. I was kind of looking more of a way to kind of, you know, get in that inner circle and a lot of that times that comes through, you know, stretch and VP, where you know, you talk about things other than baseball, you get to know guys a little bit more. And that would even start like in spring training. But to me, the reason there, I think a lot of guys just got off to a bad start individually and the pitching was so good and we were still winning. We they were still winning games. I guess it was we at the time. They were still winning games. It just seemed like it just the the winning didn't seem uh it didn't a lot of guys weren't like enjoying that we were winning games. You know, a lot of people got caught up in their own uh failures, and just it wasn't even it wasn't even like, uh, you know, we had an aircraft. It wasn't like one guy was carrying the team, you know, they were driving all the It was like, you know, we managed to get a couple of guys on base and will come with a big hit. You'd win two to one, but they'd be one for four everyone else, you know, you know, zero four. 00:22:09 Speaker 3: On the day. 00:22:09 Speaker 1: And that just happened for you know, pretty much the first month this season, and then it just kind of felt like there was a lot of panic setting in. You know, there was things that happen, you know, behind closed walls. Things were getting taken away, things were being you know forced upon, you know, things were becoming mandatory. And then a lot of guys, a lot of guys were trying to make up for a bad start. They were trying to get it all back in one day, as opposed to being like I kept trying to remind guys. I'm like, there was a point we were like thirteen and six and we had like the worst batting average in baseball. I'm like, collectively we have hit rock bottom as an offense. But we were winning games like this should motivate us, Like we should be thankful that our pitching staff is so dominant and that we're finding ways to win games, and like, you know, day by day going to get out of this. And it's just kind of been that trend oh year. It's like guys are trying to get above water, and it's a hard thing to do. I mean, I've been there too, you know. It's I think that's the hardest thing about baseball. 00:23:11 Speaker 3: Baseball. 00:23:12 Speaker 1: I've always said this, Baseball is the ultimate team sport. 00:23:15 Speaker 3: But it's also the ultimate individual sport. 00:23:18 Speaker 1: You know, this is the only sport in the world where you play by two different sets of rules. 00:23:23 Speaker 3: How you play in the regular season, how you play in the postseason. 00:23:26 Speaker 1: If someone could figure out a way to run a team, and maybe that's kind of what the Dodgers do because they do have a lot of guys under contract where they have other guys playing for stuff, they have guys trying to play for the Hall of Fame. But when you have guys like financially secure and winning is the most important thing, you start playing by those set of rules that you do in the playoffs, because in the playoffs, winning is the only thing that matters. 00:23:49 Speaker 3: You played a long time. You play in a lot of playoffs. 00:23:52 Speaker 1: You've had games where you've had four hits in a playoff game you lose and it's the worst feeling in the world. You've had games you get no hits but you win and it's the best feeling in the world. How do you kind of create that feeling for one hundred and sixty two. I don't think you can. It's really hard because at the end of the day, much like I mentioned, with all the transactions going on, we are individual contractors. Like you need to perform individually in order for you to be successful, for you to take care of your family. And that's I think that's the challenge with baseball is, you know, how do you how do you still feel good as a young player? You know, and the Rangers, you have a lot of young players. They have guys coming up in arbitration. Obviously, they want to perform, they want to, you know, make money, they want to take care of their families. You know, this is our livelihood. You know, people may forget that at some point, but this is how we take care of our families, how we put food on the table, just how we pay for, you know, living, That's how we play for our kids to go to college. You do want to perform, but the end of the day, winning is also important. So how do you try to kind of blend those two. It's a hard thing. 00:24:53 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the balance, right. I think we got time for one more question with Kevin Pollar, who obviously will join us again soon. Actually will definitely join us again soon. Rumor is maybe a little guest hosting action coming up, but that'll that'll be a good you finished again, I think. 00:25:09 Speaker 2: So there are many going on. 00:25:11 Speaker 1: Maybe you're getting sent down for the day. 00:25:14 Speaker 2: He calls it getting fired, which I like, it's true. 00:25:18 Speaker 3: It's so true. 00:25:19 Speaker 2: You get fired from your. 00:25:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, people like will ask, like, you know where I'm living now? Like, oh, you know why you're done playing? They're like, what's I'm like, I got fired. 00:25:28 Speaker 3: It's just a nice way of saying it. 00:25:31 Speaker 5: It's fired when you get optioned to Major Baseball. Came up with that word so that people are like, oh, wow, he chose to go to Triple A. It wasn't my option. 00:25:40 Speaker 2: I got optioned. 00:25:41 Speaker 3: I got fired back to them, wasn't my option. Yeah, that's what sent me to Buffalo wasn't my option. It was their option. It was their choice. Their choice wasn't my option. 00:25:52 Speaker 7: Well, what do you want to do? So what's the plan you think? And I mean, obviously, you literally just retired twenty minutes ago. But do you have things that you want to do? Obviously, fan time. 00:26:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, family time is important. 00:26:05 Speaker 5: You know. 00:26:07 Speaker 1: I have the property that I bond in Texas and I got my lamas. I'm about to get some longhorns. I just enjoy like fixing things and doing stuff and like taking care of my own property. I wish those things made money and they paid the bills, so eventually I'll have to get back into the workforce, but I enjoy stuff like this. I enjoy talking the game. I think the game isn't a good place. I think it could be in a better place. I think what you guys are doing on your show is great. 00:26:35 Speaker 3: I love the. 00:26:36 Speaker 1: Fact you guys say what you want, you have no agenda. I think that needs to be talked about more. I think having foreign players, the good, the bad, the ugly things that happen in the game need to be kind of talked about. The great things about the game need to be shared. So I look forward to doing. 00:26:53 Speaker 3: This and more. 00:26:53 Speaker 7: I love that DIY does not make you money, but it does actually save you money. 00:26:58 Speaker 3: That's true. I'm more. 00:26:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now I'm in the saving the money phase of life, not really making the money question. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: I want to know, how does the guy from Los Angeles end up being a fake cowboy with the cowboy head on? 00:27:08 Speaker 3: A minute? 00:27:11 Speaker 1: You don't have enough time for me to discuss the fake cowboy. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: That's a longer discussion than a minute. 00:27:17 Speaker 2: Trying embracing. 00:27:18 Speaker 1: I'm embracing, I'm embracing racing. I don't quite I'm I'm somewhere between a rancher, a farmer, and a cowboy. I don't know what that is. Maybe just a landowner. You know, a guy that does projects, a guy that likes to mow his own lawn. 00:27:33 Speaker 2: Lamas and longhorns, that gets you some streak. 00:27:36 Speaker 3: That sounds like a sounds like a show. Next time, he's gonna have a rag on under the cowboy hat. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:27:45 Speaker 7: Lamas and long long horns, that gets some string credit. 00:27:49 Speaker 5: Long balls. 00:27:50 Speaker 3: Lamas and long horns, yeah, except it hit two balls. 00:27:53 Speaker 7: Okay, to be something about games, singles, stealing, running along. 00:28:00 Speaker 2: Way that flows off the tongue. 00:28:04 Speaker 7: Thanks again man obviously, thanks for doing that here and congrats again on retirement. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: Thank you guys. 00:28:11 Speaker 2: M