Ep. 408: Winter Mailbag (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 4>It is a new year, it is a new decade.
<v Speaker 4>It is a new x here at TLM dolls. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>it is welcome to twenty twenty five scause it's kind
<v Speaker 4>of wild.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was thinking Actually, you know, TLFX actually
<v Speaker 2>isn't done yet. It's not over yet. Do you know
<v Speaker 2>why why? Because the anniversary is May twenty eighth. Well,
<v Speaker 2>that's true. That's that's it. So it's TALFX until May
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighth.
<v Speaker 4>It's TLFX until we get crowned Best Wrestling Podcast by
<v Speaker 4>the Sports.
<v Speaker 2>Podcast A wells damn straight?
<v Speaker 4>I mean, is this not the most like perfect thing
<v Speaker 4>to fall out of the sky and into our lapse
<v Speaker 4>on a yeel where in so many ways we're reflecting
<v Speaker 4>on what it's all meant and we're embarking upon a
<v Speaker 4>new year here, and we do want to, right off
<v Speaker 4>the top, send a wholehearted thanks to everybody on social
<v Speaker 4>media who's indicated to us that they have voted for us.
<v Speaker 4>We want to kick off this mailbag show. And believe me,
<v Speaker 4>santas Sac has been bursting over the holidays. It has
<v Speaker 4>been months since we've gone through the best missives from
<v Speaker 4>any fan base on any podcast that has ever existed
<v Speaker 4>on the face of God's green Earth. Indeed, I'm going
<v Speaker 4>to get to business here because that's the way to
<v Speaker 4>start the year, right. You start the year by tidying up,
<v Speaker 4>don't you?
<v Speaker 2>Boss.
<v Speaker 4>You start the years making sure everything has its place,
<v Speaker 4>and then as you head out into a new year,
<v Speaker 4>you don't feel like vestiges of the year prior are
<v Speaker 4>laying about everyone, keeping you stuck in a prior mode.
<v Speaker 4>That's not what we do here, not at all. But
<v Speaker 4>this is urgent because the time to vote is rapidly closing.
<v Speaker 4>We got word that we were nominated as finalists in
<v Speaker 4>this series of awards, which is run by a sports
<v Speaker 4>podcast group. They do like an annual award thing called,
<v Speaker 4>you know, the Sports podcast Towards. It's pretty self explanatory. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>And the voting will close January thirteenth.
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. And if you're out there within.
<v Speaker 4>The sound of our voice and have seen our tweets
<v Speaker 4>and our entreaties that we tried to plaster all over
<v Speaker 4>not only our socials but the podcast feed as well
<v Speaker 4>as the unwrapping played out to record success this this
<v Speaker 4>Christmas season, yep, you do need to act, and you know,
<v Speaker 4>because it's a popularity contest, you do need to tell
<v Speaker 4>everybody you know to act as well, even if they've
<v Speaker 4>never heard the show, but if they care about you.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's not one of those types too, where
<v Speaker 2>you can vote and vote and vote, right, it's only
<v Speaker 2>one vote per person. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I mean
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sing like per email, I should say.
<v Speaker 4>I think that's how it works. I've hesitated to vote
<v Speaker 4>myself because that's a little weird, but yes, you do have.
<v Speaker 2>I voted for us, absolutely.
<v Speaker 4>It's all my emails, so you know then, so yeah,
<v Speaker 4>you know the answer to the question, did you try
<v Speaker 4>to vote with the same email twice?
<v Speaker 2>You know, I feel like I did it. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I did it a while ago. I did it when
<v Speaker 2>we first did it, and I don't really remember, but
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was the case.
<v Speaker 4>You know, when we took a step in this direction,
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't even clear to us that this is something
<v Speaker 4>that the broad populist decides that this was a popularity
<v Speaker 4>contest because you had to submit, you know, like an
<v Speaker 4>application and sort of give them samples of what you
<v Speaker 4>thought your best stuff was to make the cut, and
<v Speaker 4>you sort of go into that with this sense that, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>there's actually going to be a judge that decides best podcasts.
<v Speaker 4>So that sounds like that sounds like something we can win,
<v Speaker 4>you know, yeah, right, But if it's a if it's
<v Speaker 4>a numbers game. Then unfortunately, we've got to marshal the resources,
<v Speaker 4>just like we do every time around this year. When
<v Speaker 4>you know, the past couple of years there's been a
<v Speaker 4>live show, which there won't be this year coming up
<v Speaker 4>in association with WrestleMania, we go a whole hog.
<v Speaker 2>We don't leave any.
<v Speaker 4>Stone unturned, right pounded the pavement and getting the word out.
<v Speaker 4>We don't want to leave anything on the table when
<v Speaker 4>it comes to numbers games, and so we're going to
<v Speaker 4>need everything you can muster here in the new year.
<v Speaker 4>Make it your resolution to get the coach here much
<v Speaker 4>needed recognition on the year of TLFX for Best Wrestling
<v Speaker 4>Podcast in the Sports Podcast Awards twenty twenty five. It's
<v Speaker 4>Sports Podcastgroup dot com is the url for the organization
<v Speaker 4>that puts the awards on and then it's pretty easy
<v Speaker 4>from there to find the twenty twenty five Sports Podcast
<v Speaker 4>Awards and then the best Wrestling category. We've also put
<v Speaker 4>the link up several times in our social media channels
<v Speaker 4>X in particular, and so we thank everybody and have
<v Speaker 4>been sure to shout out everybody, whether retweet or a
<v Speaker 4>like or a fist pump on social for doing what
<v Speaker 4>it takes, because it's the Boss Man just illustrated. It
<v Speaker 4>isn't just a one click thing. It does take a
<v Speaker 4>little bit of inputting of information and such to get
<v Speaker 4>your vote across the transom. But look, we've got the
<v Speaker 4>fans that are willing to go that extra mile to
<v Speaker 4>deal with that inconvenience. Yes, and I think it's I
<v Speaker 4>don't know, it feels right, boss, It feels like it's
<v Speaker 4>time to proved to motherfuckers that like, the only reason
<v Speaker 4>we don't have all the awards is because we don't
<v Speaker 4>bother most of the time.
<v Speaker 2>It's not even trying to nothing to prove. It's more like,
<v Speaker 2>now's the time to show the world, and show the
<v Speaker 2>world what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>I think on the New Year, it's always healthy for us,
<v Speaker 4>let alone for the solar system at large, to be
<v Speaker 4>reminded what it is we're trying to establish here.
<v Speaker 2>To show the world that there is only one all right,
<v Speaker 2>that there is only one that when it comes down
<v Speaker 2>to it, right, when it comes down to putting together
<v Speaker 2>the history, putting together the story, and most importantly, being
<v Speaker 2>able to more accurately than not not by any sort
<v Speaker 2>of pretense on our part, but to accurately get in
<v Speaker 2>the minds of these fuckers. There's none out there. It's
<v Speaker 2>not possible. It's method acting, yes, And you know, and
<v Speaker 2>if you're not listen, if you're not if you're missing
<v Speaker 2>out on this again, We've said it a million times.
<v Speaker 2>We're here. We're always here, right, we are. We are
<v Speaker 2>mother and father, and we are always our arms and
<v Speaker 2>our doors are always open to embrace you when your
<v Speaker 2>time has come. That's right. I mean in a weird
<v Speaker 2>way too, It's like, you know, we're we're also Saint
<v Speaker 2>Peter at the Gate, right, we're welcoming you into to
<v Speaker 2>to u a higher a higher level of living and
<v Speaker 2>and and being, particularly for the wrestling fan exactly. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>if you're and hey, you know what, though I've seen
<v Speaker 2>some of these emails Tiven for non wrestling fans, they're
<v Speaker 2>out there and bless their hearts, you know, there's a
<v Speaker 2>lot of them. Categories in the Sports Podcast Awards Best
<v Speaker 2>Comedy Podcast, Hello, Best overall podcast. Hello. But it's wrestling,
<v Speaker 2>so no one's going to give you. Yeah, you don't
<v Speaker 2>get to be the best of other things when you're
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're in the we're in the bastard step
<v Speaker 2>child category. Exactly.
<v Speaker 4>Let's practice what we preach. If we're gonna mock a
<v Speaker 4>wrestler for trying to write a memoir, for example, that
<v Speaker 4>they trick themselves into thinking anybody but a wrestling fan
<v Speaker 4>is going to buy and enjoy. We can't just as
<v Speaker 4>well turned around and pretend that we can step outside
<v Speaker 4>our bounds for recognitions. It's there, of course, and we're
<v Speaker 4>blessed to have it, but we also make no allusions
<v Speaker 4>as to what base it is that we're seeking to
<v Speaker 4>firm up and give sort of an outlook that allows
<v Speaker 4>them to live with some self respect. Yeah, after having
<v Speaker 4>been bitten by the bug of one of the most
<v Speaker 4>ludicrous industries to ever exist, and it just gets more
<v Speaker 4>and more ridiculous all the time, and we just get
<v Speaker 4>more and more ramped up to do what we can
<v Speaker 4>to put the lapsed lens on it all. You do know,
<v Speaker 4>of course, that the live calls are going to be
<v Speaker 4>rocking this year on Patreon, because we've got the Netflix
<v Speaker 4>raw that we're going to cover. We've got Saturday Night's
<v Speaker 4>main event, which apparently is going to be quarterly, including
<v Speaker 4>one coming up the end of January. Yes, Jesus fucking Christ,
<v Speaker 4>get some letters. Hearing the feedback show about that. How
<v Speaker 4>you feel in coming off that thing? It kind of
<v Speaker 4>feel good. I mean I don't have any lingering negativity
<v Speaker 4>towards it at all.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know about like actual negativity. I
<v Speaker 2>would say that it you know, they could have done.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they were too. They were a little fearful.
<v Speaker 2>I think Trips was a little fearful in actually going
<v Speaker 2>full fucking hog into what Saturay Night's main event was.
<v Speaker 2>I think there were some opportunities that were missed. I
<v Speaker 2>think no graphics really affected my entertainment of it. And then,
<v Speaker 2>you know, but it was good. It was fine. I'll
<v Speaker 2>tell you what. The highlight of it Jesse Ventura. So
<v Speaker 2>that's it for me. He was amazing, absolutely, absolutely, and
<v Speaker 2>apparently we'll be back. And what do you know? It did?
<v Speaker 2>Used to be better?
<v Speaker 4>Yep, because when you bring someone in cold who probably
<v Speaker 4>hasn't watched more than ten minutes of professional wrestling in
<v Speaker 4>twenty years, and he can say things on commentary that
<v Speaker 4>make you actually care about the match in a way
<v Speaker 4>you haven't in twenty years. That's what we've been saying
<v Speaker 4>since twenty fourteen. Exactly the instincts that were drilled into
<v Speaker 4>people who were good enough to be on national television
<v Speaker 4>and professional wrestling just aren't there in the volume and
<v Speaker 4>quantity they need to be in the current crop, and
<v Speaker 4>it's not their fault. They do what they have to
<v Speaker 4>do to thrive in the business conditions that they're handed. However,
<v Speaker 4>that does not mean that the way of institutionalizing, I
<v Speaker 4>guess is one way to put it. These guys in
<v Speaker 4>the past wasn't better, wasn't superior, and didn't produce an
<v Speaker 4>instinct in the performer, the wrestler, the commentator or whatever
<v Speaker 4>that just makes it more satisfying to watch. That just
<v Speaker 4>makes it easier to watch you in it instead of
<v Speaker 4>takes you out of it every ten minutes. So big
<v Speaker 4>ups to the body and big ups to the thesis
<v Speaker 4>of the lapsed fan. As Saturday Night's main event returns,
<v Speaker 4>then we get the rumble, and then you know what
<v Speaker 4>the deal is, and we're gonna go extra hard around
<v Speaker 4>WrestleMania because we're not going to Vegas. So of course
<v Speaker 4>we're going to service the patree, the patreon we haven't
<v Speaker 4>in years for Mania, and as far as live shows,
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't mean we're taking twenty twenty five off. We've
<v Speaker 4>got our eye very strongly on doing maybe a summer
<v Speaker 4>thing around Summer Slam in the New York City area.
<v Speaker 4>We're particularly strong in the East Coast. I think we've
<v Speaker 4>demonstrated that to ourselves and everybody else, and so maybe
<v Speaker 4>that's maybe that's the play we'll see. I want to
<v Speaker 4>stay tuned for information in that as we go. And
<v Speaker 4>we're really excited here in the first episode of twenty
<v Speaker 4>twenty five as we turn the page in so many
<v Speaker 4>ways to bring it the conclusion of this episode, an
<v Speaker 4>update on a near and dear Solar System member. These
<v Speaker 4>mail bag shows, Boss, of course, they're about in the
<v Speaker 4>Solar System and how valuable a part of the ecosystem
<v Speaker 4>they are, how they are into the gasoline to the
<v Speaker 4>whole upper. You've heard us talk about our good friend Gabe,
<v Speaker 4>who's been in the show a bunch of times. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>we've told you before about the podcast the Whole Ballgame
<v Speaker 4>that he started with fellas fellow Solar System member Blake,
<v Speaker 4>about baseball, kind of taking a lapsed lens to baseball.
<v Speaker 4>You've heard from them in the year before Gabe had
<v Speaker 4>health challenges. We shared a lot of info over the
<v Speaker 4>weeks on the show about his gofund me as he
<v Speaker 4>wanted to wunn open heart surgery. And we're proud to
<v Speaker 4>say thrilled to say that Gabe is not only back
<v Speaker 4>on his feet, but sounds amazing, sounds just as he
<v Speaker 4>did before the procedure. And we saw it to it
<v Speaker 4>over the holiday season to reconnect with Gabe now that
<v Speaker 4>he's feeling up to it, and just to kind of
<v Speaker 4>get get a report back on what it was he
<v Speaker 4>went through and what it is boss his experience can
<v Speaker 4>tell us about how we should proceed in the new year.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry say that again, you went out there for
<v Speaker 2>a moment.
<v Speaker 4>Sure, just his experience and what it tells us about
<v Speaker 4>how we should proceed in the new year.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, indeed, absolutely, I think that's I think that's important.
<v Speaker 2>I think I think Gabe has a lot to say
<v Speaker 2>in that regard, and he will and do what he
<v Speaker 2>does and enlighten us very much.
<v Speaker 4>And that'll be coming your way here at the end
<v Speaker 4>of the episode. So we do want to let you
<v Speaker 4>know that if part of your new year's resolution includes
<v Speaker 4>not only getting right with living a moral life, which
<v Speaker 4>we might be able to help with, probably not, but
<v Speaker 4>maybe to the fallen angel that is the wrestling fan,
<v Speaker 4>we can offer some support if it's not already too late.
<v Speaker 4>If you're going to hit the gym, everyone does this
<v Speaker 4>right New Year. You've probably had some runs with this
<v Speaker 4>right January first, baby, hit the gym?
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, me either. Good.
<v Speaker 4>I think that has a I think that has more
<v Speaker 4>to do than we probably realize with. Why we can
<v Speaker 4>cast so hard and be so relatable to so many
<v Speaker 4>is because we didn't have this period of time where
<v Speaker 4>we decided we were going to be someone we're not,
<v Speaker 4>which is one way to.
<v Speaker 5>Go at it.
<v Speaker 4>But we got to tell you. We have to tell you, folks,
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's exactly what it makes the most perfect sense,
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<v Speaker 2>Oh exactly. I mean, listen, you're all going to try. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>You're all gonna try yes, and I and I don't
<v Speaker 2>fault for that.
<v Speaker 4>And there's virtue in that. There's virtue. Indeed, thankfully it's
<v Speaker 4>not New Year's Revolution season.
<v Speaker 2>Well that would suck. I mean they didn't bring that
<v Speaker 2>one back yet, so we can count our blessings, don't.
<v Speaker 2>They do it with something? Though fairly recently, like in
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years, they did something New Year's Resolution.
<v Speaker 2>Is it Day one you're thinking of? No, they actually
<v Speaker 2>called something New Year's Resolution, but I don't remember what
<v Speaker 2>it was.
<v Speaker 4>They do, I believe use that for NXTX supercards. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and they have New Year's Evil. Maybe they call it
<v Speaker 4>something like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Can I can I just stop for god's sake,
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be evil. It's gotta be you know, medieval
<v Speaker 2>like knock it off. So we were counting our webs
<v Speaker 2>what it is. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Well, they're
<v Speaker 2>not gonna level up. They canceled that show, which is
<v Speaker 2>like an NXTB brand if you can believe it. And
<v Speaker 2>we're entering the era of Netflix. Man, this is gonna
<v Speaker 2>get really gross. I'm sorry to tell you, but it
<v Speaker 2>does not look like they are even thinking for a
<v Speaker 2>second about how to allay the fears of those who
<v Speaker 2>know that while in any given week or any given month,
<v Speaker 2>the archives aren't the most watched things on Peacock or
<v Speaker 2>the former WW network, the erswild WW network, why would
<v Speaker 2>they That wouldn't make any sense. Why would Why would
<v Speaker 2>anybody watch a show from ninet eighty five and great
<v Speaker 2>enough volume to register? But over time, as we demonstrate
<v Speaker 2>the existence of our podcast demonstrates, over time, what matters
<v Speaker 2>to the is the archive. Over time, what the archive
<v Speaker 2>is all that matters because that's that's your legacy, right
<v Speaker 2>is it that hard to understand? Over time?
<v Speaker 4>Is knowing what matters is knowing that everything is there
<v Speaker 4>to rewatch or that if you lapse in your watching.
<v Speaker 2>This is so big.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they ever think about this. If somebody
<v Speaker 4>is following WWE and for whatever reason doesn't for six months,
<v Speaker 4>five months, four months, it happens to all of us. Well,
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't happen to Toss, but you get my point.
<v Speaker 4>It happens still a lot of people. Well, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's true. We sort of force you to not fall
<v Speaker 4>into that pattern, but you would. Yeah, those people are
<v Speaker 4>still gonna subscribe if they know they have access to
<v Speaker 4>something that can catch them up when they feel like
<v Speaker 4>they have the time or when they feel like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>poking through. And they may never do it, but they'll
<v Speaker 4>still pay for it. And that instinct is going to
<v Speaker 4>be extinguished if the archive isn't full and robust. So
<v Speaker 4>the people that you lose, you're gonna lose like typical
<v Speaker 4>Netflix style churn, Like I don't care this month. I'm
<v Speaker 4>not subscribing, literally not. I don't understand. I really don't,
<v Speaker 4>because it's there, it's done. We're not asking We're not
<v Speaker 4>asking them to digitize a vault and put a lot
<v Speaker 4>of legwork in. We're asking them to not be a
<v Speaker 4>bunch of bitches is what we're basically not to be
<v Speaker 4>fucking idiots, fucking morons exactly. I mean, but again, you
<v Speaker 4>know what, if they want to do it, fine, I've
<v Speaker 4>got an archie right and by now they've forced us
<v Speaker 4>to game plan, and we've amassed such a mighty system,
<v Speaker 4>in such a mighty interconnected network, you're not gonna fucking
<v Speaker 4>put us on our back foot.
<v Speaker 2>We went through all this with Peacock.
<v Speaker 4>Remember we did the whole head fake, like, well, we
<v Speaker 4>almost mocked the idea that we have to go out
<v Speaker 4>of business because the network isn't there anymore, give me.
<v Speaker 2>Or because Peacock's gonna be a shit show, which it
<v Speaker 2>kind of is.
<v Speaker 4>We need the archive, we need the archive, but our
<v Speaker 4>fans need us to have the archive more than we
<v Speaker 4>need the archive.
<v Speaker 2>Do you see that?
<v Speaker 4>Do you see how that works? And so if you're
<v Speaker 4>gonna if you're gonna push us, if you're gonna fuck around,
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna find out and it's gonna be great for
<v Speaker 4>us because not only will there be the pull of
<v Speaker 4>hearing us review the show, it'll always also be like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>I can't even watch this motherfucker anymore. So now I'm
<v Speaker 4>doubly interested in revisiting it because.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I can't. We have no way to watch it
<v Speaker 2>unless you have your own copy of it.
<v Speaker 4>So I guess game over. Thank you, is what I'm
<v Speaker 4>trying to say in this new normal where smackdowns going
<v Speaker 4>to three hours.
<v Speaker 2>As well Netflix. So it's a shit show.
<v Speaker 4>So we're excited and we're bullish going into this huge
<v Speaker 4>deal for WWA and the upcoming live call can be
<v Speaker 4>yours for your Patreon dollar. You know this, you know
<v Speaker 4>the story, you know the score under the cinemat. We
<v Speaker 4>dropped one of the most epic episodes we'll ever do
<v Speaker 4>on one of the most epic movies ever made for
<v Speaker 4>Christmas Day. Yeah, and boss, I'm sure the Solar systems
<v Speaker 4>wondering what's in your head for twenty twenty five regarding
<v Speaker 4>UTC for your ep and above tier dollar.
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a lot of good stuff, you know. I've
<v Speaker 2>got a whole slate of possibilities and I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to give any away just yet. We've got classics. We've
<v Speaker 2>got one, honest to god, We've got one that I
<v Speaker 2>I just found out about, just found out about. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>You found out that it qualifies. I found out that
<v Speaker 2>it's a movie like that. Yeah, that qualifies, not even
<v Speaker 2>that it qualifies. But I never heard of this movie
<v Speaker 2>and it stars Humphrey Bogart. All Right, that's all I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna say. And I was like, holy shit, and it's
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. It's gonna happen this year. I know, I
<v Speaker 2>do want to say, I do want to apologize. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I know I did promise a complete Christmas movie season
<v Speaker 2>this year. It just, you know, when when I started
<v Speaker 2>digging into the Wizard of Oz, it just was taking
<v Speaker 2>up too much time and it was too important for
<v Speaker 2>me to do that one. And I also needed a
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks just off of the James Bond you know,
<v Speaker 2>the James Bond journey, and then scheduling it just was
<v Speaker 2>it was weird how it just was not meant to be. Well,
<v Speaker 2>it's such a short season too, and it was very short,
<v Speaker 2>three and a half weeks of Christmas. Fuck that you
<v Speaker 2>had basically like a week, you know, right, I mean
<v Speaker 2>that was like I was kind of you know, I was,
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to start, you know, slowly the week after
<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving and then kind of dig into stuff. And then
<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait a minute's Christmas. It's like it's
<v Speaker 2>already Christmas, Like there's no time to do anything else.
<v Speaker 4>And let me cut into that, because I can attest
<v Speaker 4>to having done the sid tribute for instance, like what's
<v Speaker 4>great about it? What keeps it going? Like if this
<v Speaker 4>wasn't true, it would be it wouldn't be long before
<v Speaker 4>it isn't worth doing the show anymore, honestly right its
<v Speaker 4>What has to be true for TLF to be TLF
<v Speaker 4>is that when we find ourselves going down a rabbit
<v Speaker 4>hole and things start taking on a life of their own,
<v Speaker 4>and the tail end of the process just keeps getting
<v Speaker 4>elongated and elongated til we can barely see it on
<v Speaker 4>the horizon, we have to know that you are going
<v Speaker 4>to keep handing us the ball to run to the
<v Speaker 4>finish line, no matter how far away it may be.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 4>We have to know that we've got the only audience
<v Speaker 4>on any podcast that we could ever hope for that says,
<v Speaker 4>do it, go for it, don't stop until the corpse
<v Speaker 4>is exhausted, don't stop until the account is serviced. This
<v Speaker 4>customer needs service, and this customer is a movie that
<v Speaker 4>the boss Man's dive for under the cinemat this customer
<v Speaker 4>is a tribute subject like sid for the main feed
<v Speaker 4>or some kind of long form journey on all of
<v Speaker 4>the different things we've covered over the years, and it's
<v Speaker 4>always the thing you go back to. It's always the
<v Speaker 4>thing you're glad we overdid. And by god, a couple
<v Speaker 4>of years pass and it seems like we underdid it
<v Speaker 4>every single time, right, be exactly things keep getting pointed out, tentacles,
<v Speaker 4>new branches on the tree that we didn't consider it
<v Speaker 4>first blush, even though we felt we were exhaustive and
<v Speaker 4>exhausted going through the process.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly it.
<v Speaker 4>But that's the virtuous cycle that makes all this worth it,
<v Speaker 4>and the mail bag is going to be further proof
<v Speaker 4>of that here as we crack it open for the
<v Speaker 4>first time in several months on the show. Now, we're
<v Speaker 4>gonna go in kind of verse chronological order. No, yes,
<v Speaker 4>we're going to go from most current two oldest letters
<v Speaker 4>this time because we're coming off the unwrappening and it
<v Speaker 4>was epic, and it was even more epic not only
<v Speaker 4>to record it, but even more epic to roll it
<v Speaker 4>out like we did twenty five Days of Christmas style
<v Speaker 4>and have Mama Sorrow in the room for the first time,
<v Speaker 4>and so many members of the Solar System appreciated that
<v Speaker 4>we're picking up on all these great nuances along the way.
<v Speaker 4>The silver Tuna, in a lot of ways was the
<v Speaker 4>care package from Saint Mary's Cathedral. Oh yes, this was
<v Speaker 4>something that we had a decent degree of information on
<v Speaker 4>while we were opening the gift on the unwrappening in
<v Speaker 4>terms of how it came together, But we just felt
<v Speaker 4>like it begged more clarification, because how do your CoA
<v Speaker 4>chairs end up being in position possession? I should say
<v Speaker 4>of an autograph picture of sid Udy signed from the
<v Speaker 4>church that he was trying to get people to send
<v Speaker 4>cases and cases and cases of Vienna sausages to in
<v Speaker 4>his last years on Earth. And Brandon, who is responsible
<v Speaker 4>I put his head together with some of the other
<v Speaker 4>homies out there in the Solar System. Didn't he see
<v Speaker 4>what make this thing happen? Was kind enough to lay
<v Speaker 4>out for us. Now that the gift is in receipt
<v Speaker 4>and it's been opened and reacted to, for all the
<v Speaker 4>Solar System to hear and re joice in. We shared
<v Speaker 4>an image of the materials on our social media accounts.
<v Speaker 4>I turned out to you, Boss, please convey Brandon's blow
<v Speaker 4>by blow for a process that only the lapsed Fan
<v Speaker 4>could engender someone to retake.
<v Speaker 2>That's that is exactly it. I mean, you think about,
<v Speaker 2>you think about I mean, I want to, I really
<v Speaker 2>am here. I would be curious, are there any other
<v Speaker 2>podcasts now who could elicit this kind of a response.
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting and I'm not trying to. I'm not trying
<v Speaker 2>to toot our own horn, and I am, but I'm
<v Speaker 2>also genuinely curious because this is one of the most
<v Speaker 2>wackiest yes, and most incredibly thought out resources and dedicated
<v Speaker 2>right gift that I mean, the whole, the whole presentation
<v Speaker 2>of it was just completely just out of this world.
<v Speaker 4>And didn't it feel like there was some divine intervention
<v Speaker 4>having your mom there to explain the same way, Oh god,
<v Speaker 4>the significance of the shawl. If she wasn't sitting with us,
<v Speaker 4>we would have just put that to the side, like, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>I guess this is just a rapping like and she.
<v Speaker 2>Was excited about it, excited about it. I mean, just wild,
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely wild.
<v Speaker 1>Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows the boys
<v Speaker 1>need their candy.
<v Speaker 6>It's the lapsed fan just because we posted a new
<v Speaker 6>episode of The Lapsed Fan doesn't mean we are done
<v Speaker 6>with the campaign to take what is rightfully ours. If
<v Speaker 6>you haven't yet vote for The Lapsed Fan to win
<v Speaker 6>the award for Wrestling Podcast of the Year, click on
<v Speaker 6>the show's notes, follow the link and do the right thing.
<v Speaker 1>He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
<v Speaker 1>and JP Soro.
<v Speaker 2>So here we go. I knew this year I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to finally send a gift for the Christmas show. I
<v Speaker 2>was originally thinking about some w CW stickers or maybe
<v Speaker 2>every Raven Trading card that's been made. But after hearing
<v Speaker 2>part one, I love that. That's part one, by the way,
<v Speaker 2>it was part one where the fucking Vienna's come into play. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I just you know, I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>it's funny he keeps. As I was researching the interviews
<v Speaker 4>he did in his later years after his wrestling career,
<v Speaker 4>he would bring it up a lot, and I'm like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of a funny thing.
<v Speaker 2>I'll mention that.
<v Speaker 4>But I did not think it was going to be
<v Speaker 4>every single episode and it would come to characterize I mean,
<v Speaker 4>Vienna sausage is sid that's why you need to trust
<v Speaker 4>us when we do this stuff, when we do this
<v Speaker 4>kind of digging, because we don't know on the front
<v Speaker 4>end what's going to end up being the gems and
<v Speaker 4>the diamonds we have to mine.
<v Speaker 2>We have to mine. Yeah, And that's exactly exactly that's
<v Speaker 2>why you know. Otherwise, if we don't do that, things
<v Speaker 2>are less than sanguine. Things are less than sanguine and
<v Speaker 2>less than worth it, that's for sure. But after hearing
<v Speaker 2>part one of the Sid Tribute, I knew I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to get you a SID meal pack. Then Part two
<v Speaker 2>of the tribute came out and we could see, we
<v Speaker 2>could all see that viennas were now a full fledged gimmick.
<v Speaker 2>I figured every member of the Solar system would now
<v Speaker 2>be sending in viennas for the Christmas show. My gift
<v Speaker 2>would be worthless. But then I thought, what if I
<v Speaker 2>could send them real viennas, Sid's actual viennas from his church.
<v Speaker 2>I went back. I wasn't prepped for that. I should
<v Speaker 2>have had that. I went back. There we go and
<v Speaker 2>owned through part one to find the street address a
<v Speaker 2>name of the church Sid gives out in the interview.
<v Speaker 2>I google the chur church's name and the address separately.
<v Speaker 2>To double check that this was the right place, I
<v Speaker 2>navigated to the Saint Mary's of Memphis website, found the
<v Speaker 2>con found in the contact section, and began crafting an email.
<v Speaker 2>But I can't tell this church that they were indirectly
<v Speaker 2>mentioned on a wrestling podcast. Now that's how I hung
<v Speaker 2>up on. Yeah, yeah, that's how. That's how you don't
<v Speaker 2>get a response. I can't ask them to send me
<v Speaker 2>food meant for the homeless. I'm going to need to
<v Speaker 2>convince them. I'll have to touch their hearts to make
<v Speaker 2>this happen. Now, this is the time I mentioned that
<v Speaker 2>as a teenager, I joined the bullshit carnival. I was
<v Speaker 2>ushered into adulthood and taught life's lessons by such ethical
<v Speaker 2>athletes as Larry's Obisco. To quote Larry before you continue reading,
<v Speaker 2>If you want to enjoy the circus, don't peek behind
<v Speaker 2>the curtain.
<v Speaker 4>Why am I not surprised that someone who's actually been
<v Speaker 4>in the business was able to pull this off?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly. That's that's kind of the that that's it,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's that's who you get to to
<v Speaker 2>pull something, pull a caper like this off. And this
<v Speaker 2>is definitely a caper, hands down. I lied to the church. Wow.
<v Speaker 4>Wow, I wouldn't recommend that, But my God, are we
<v Speaker 4>the beneficiaries of it?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, depends on depends on how you feel about
<v Speaker 2>the church, you know. I guess it was in the church.
<v Speaker 2>It was just yeah, in general, you know. I told
<v Speaker 2>them about my grandfather Jack, whose parents were Italian immigrants
<v Speaker 2>that emigrated from Italy to West Memphis. God, this was
<v Speaker 2>to explain his last name in Carnassio, an Italian name.
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Oh, that's fucking great in case it came up.
<v Speaker 2>Grandpa Jack was born in Memphis and spent his entire
<v Speaker 2>life living by the Word of God and attending Saint
<v Speaker 2>Mary's Cathedral, but apparently not a registered member of the congregation.
<v Speaker 4>It's amazing that he told these people that this guy
<v Speaker 4>went to the church for years and they don't know
<v Speaker 4>you that you went to the church. But yeah, well,
<v Speaker 4>as far as they're concerned to the sky, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When his health started to decline fifteen years ago,
<v Speaker 2>he moved to Florida to be closer to family. This
<v Speaker 2>set up distance and explained why the package would be
<v Speaker 2>delivered to me in Florida. Grandpa Jack is dying. Oh
<v Speaker 2>my god, Grandpa Jack is dying. That's going to be
<v Speaker 2>shorthand as the years ago. Yep, and won't make it
<v Speaker 2>past Christmas. As a family, we decided to have his
<v Speaker 2>birthday three months early, on November first, as a way
<v Speaker 2>to say goodbye. He loves his church so much. The
<v Speaker 2>beautiful columns and this is I mean, if this is
<v Speaker 2>the kind of email you know you send to a
<v Speaker 2>church if you're if you have accepted your seat in hell. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I think I think the Good Lord might have a
<v Speaker 4>little more appreciation before the the trick starter.
<v Speaker 2>Than we give. I would imagine. I would imagine God
<v Speaker 2>has a sense of humor always. Nobody else would have
<v Speaker 2>a sense of humor better. Yeah, yeah, right. He loved
<v Speaker 2>his church so much. The beautiful columns and highclating are
<v Speaker 2>what inspired him to be The beautiful columns and high
<v Speaker 2>ceiling are what inspired him to become an architect. Oh
<v Speaker 2>my god, this is quote he quotes, He quotes you.
<v Speaker 2>He's never been shy to let anyone and everyone know
<v Speaker 2>that that building is the most beautiful structure on God's Earth.
<v Speaker 4>Why do I feel like after this call was over.
<v Speaker 4>The lady hung up at the church and said, something's
<v Speaker 4>wrong with that boy? He like, he didn't pull wool
<v Speaker 4>over her eyes at all. She was just like, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>what's wrong with that boy? Know that Carnasio is a
<v Speaker 4>Portuguese name.
<v Speaker 2>Better to just give him what he wants, you know,
<v Speaker 2>instead of seeing what happens if we ignore him. I
<v Speaker 2>asked him if they could help me with a birthday
<v Speaker 2>gift from my dying grandfather and hit send. Twenty six
<v Speaker 2>hours later, I got a reply from a woman using
<v Speaker 2>a private Saint Mary's email address. We'll call her Nancy.
<v Speaker 2>Nancy said that she would be glad to help and
<v Speaker 2>asked what I had in mind. God. I told her
<v Speaker 2>how Grandpa Jack loved helping out with feeding the needy,
<v Speaker 2>and how how every so often he would sneak a
<v Speaker 2>meal box for himself.
<v Speaker 4>I don't appreciate that this is somehow me okay, a
<v Speaker 4>fictitious person.
<v Speaker 2>Yet no Jew Jew this amazing. Oh my God.
<v Speaker 4>I invite you out there and listener to land to
<v Speaker 4>consider what would be like to know that possibly someone
<v Speaker 4>is doing this in your name without you having any knowledge.
<v Speaker 4>Throughout the month of November, tremendous, just tremendous. I was
<v Speaker 4>wondering if the church could send a special meal package
<v Speaker 4>and some kind of printed materials that showcase the building
<v Speaker 4>to comfort him.
<v Speaker 2>I added the print so she wouldn't just tell me
<v Speaker 2>to go to the grocery store. Nancy replied suggesting a
<v Speaker 2>prayer shawl with a card showing the church, but didn't
<v Speaker 2>like the idea of sending food in the mail. Well,
<v Speaker 2>that is just.
<v Speaker 4>That is not in keeping with the spirit of the
<v Speaker 4>pop top, not at all. Sid would not agree at
<v Speaker 4>all with that stance. In fact, he wants you to
<v Speaker 4>send food in the mail. Yeah, so we can send
<v Speaker 4>you an autograph picture. I brought up a donation and
<v Speaker 4>her opinion changed.
<v Speaker 2>So who's the carny really here?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 5>Right.
<v Speaker 2>I gave her the list of items I needed, and
<v Speaker 2>she came up with a fifty dollars donation. I wasn't
<v Speaker 2>sure if all this would be worth the fifty dollars,
<v Speaker 2>so I took the night to think about it. Little
<v Speaker 2>did I know, Little did I know, it would cost
<v Speaker 2>me a lot more. That was just the opening bid.
<v Speaker 2>My friend, Hm, you're dealing with a five oh one
<v Speaker 2>C three. Listening to the show. That night, I was
<v Speaker 2>getting more ideas. What about an autograph picture? Great call
<v Speaker 2>I would have loved, actually an auto picture of water
<v Speaker 2>that would have been great too. Sure should I buy
<v Speaker 2>one on eBay and send him with the food like
<v Speaker 2>a happy meal prize? I purchased one. I purchased one
<v Speaker 2>on eBay, but didn't feel like he was special enough.
<v Speaker 4>Well, he made the right decision because he was gonna
<v Speaker 4>that this is the only way you could top the
<v Speaker 4>guy who sent us the Sid picture with peanut butter
<v Speaker 4>and jelly so much.
<v Speaker 2>Over seriously, Oh my god, you know I had forgotten
<v Speaker 2>about that, and I was happy about forgetting about that,
<v Speaker 2>and now you've reminded me that that happened. I then
<v Speaker 2>came up with the idea of the church signing an
<v Speaker 2>eight by ten of Sid. I emailed Nancy the next
<v Speaker 2>day and accepted the donation price. I mentioned personally being
<v Speaker 2>a fan of Sid beauty, and how I would be
<v Speaker 2>happy to make the donation in his name. See how
<v Speaker 2>long you waited before you mentioned Sid? Mm hmmm mm hmm.
<v Speaker 2>She of course knew of his passing, but she wasn't
<v Speaker 2>too familiar with him personally. I asked if she could
<v Speaker 2>write a note thanking me for the donation, thanking me
<v Speaker 2>for the donation, on a picture of Sid so I
<v Speaker 2>could hang it in my home. She politely declined, like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering here does this? I mean, what does this
<v Speaker 2>woman believe?
<v Speaker 4>I'm telling you she's just she's doing it for karma
<v Speaker 4>so that it doesn't come back to bite her that
<v Speaker 4>she didn't help this poor child who.
<v Speaker 2>Clearly write his issues. Yeah. I wanted this to happen
<v Speaker 2>really bad. I didn't care about the food anymore. Really,
<v Speaker 2>I wanted an autograph picture. I not even to picture
<v Speaker 2>of Sid, but an aggraph picture of Sid signed by
<v Speaker 2>somebody else who's got nothing to do with the wrestling
<v Speaker 2>business whatsoever.
<v Speaker 4>This guy, the homie Brandon, Okay, he he started from
<v Speaker 4>a place of I don't want to just buy viennas
<v Speaker 4>at the supermarket. That's not epic enough. I want the
<v Speaker 4>church to send vienna's. And he got that done, as
<v Speaker 4>incredible as that is. And then he's like, yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>don't care about that anymore. They're right, I accomplished that.
<v Speaker 4>I don't care about that now. I want them to
<v Speaker 4>sign the picture, yeah, And I want them to sign
<v Speaker 4>the picture.
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Oh God, it's fucking money, money, money, money, money, money.
<v Speaker 2>I wanted this to happen really bad. I didn't care
<v Speaker 2>about the food anymore, really I wanted to I figured
<v Speaker 2>I had one last shot, and asking before Nancy would
<v Speaker 2>probably would maybe bail on the whole thing. I quadrupled
<v Speaker 2>down and offered two hundred dollars for her to sign
<v Speaker 2>a photo for me. I explained how I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>be able to remember doing all this for Grandpa Jack,
<v Speaker 2>how it would be an honor to give it, to
<v Speaker 2>give to the church and have this memento. Nancy accepted,
<v Speaker 2>and I donated. I knew my best friend Andrew would
<v Speaker 2>have some kind of photo of Sid for me to send.
<v Speaker 2>We dug through a box of magazines and found that
<v Speaker 2>awesome poster of Sid in a suit. I mailed it
<v Speaker 2>out and asked if she could, and asked if she
<v Speaker 2>could make it out to Jack and his brother JP
<v Speaker 2>and signed it from Saint Mary's. She didn't ask any
<v Speaker 2>questions and said she would. I finally received the package
<v Speaker 2>and it was perfect. I bought a gift box from
<v Speaker 2>Hobby Lobby for the food and repacked everything. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if they had all the food and stock or
<v Speaker 2>if they just bought what they didn't have. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if Nancy signed the poster herself or if some
<v Speaker 2>underling did. I don't know if Mama Sorrow's new shawl
<v Speaker 2>has bad juju on it. All I know is that
<v Speaker 2>this was a Christmas miracle. That's right. That's right, And
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you found it entertaining. Ah, I mean entertaining.
<v Speaker 2>That's not even the word, not even the word for it.
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was insane and absurd and just postmodern
<v Speaker 2>even it was. It was a postmodern gift. It totally was.
<v Speaker 2>It really was. And you know, we adore everything everyone
<v Speaker 2>sent us. Yep.
<v Speaker 4>It's it's not to say that this is like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>it's just the story. The story speaks to why anyone
<v Speaker 4>would send us anything in the first place. Right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>It's like, no, it's not just that people like, you know, oh,
<v Speaker 4>they love the podcast and they want to give you gifts.
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, but no, you don't understand. It's it's
<v Speaker 4>about it's about using that as a as a as
<v Speaker 4>a springboard to create more lapsed moments. It's it's about
<v Speaker 4>moments we all get to enjoy. It's not just about
<v Speaker 4>like regaling us. Oh, man, I've looked at that picture
<v Speaker 4>of the Vanna's in there and the moon po ball
<v Speaker 4>water pash of crackers. So maybe some some raisins, as
<v Speaker 4>he said in one of them, which blew my mind. Raisins,
<v Speaker 4>what the raisins? And I just I just can't believe
<v Speaker 4>that it went from him saying that in that Sean
<v Speaker 4>Mooney interview. When I was researching, I was like, Oh,
<v Speaker 4>that's yep, writ not down that one's getting involved somehow, yep,
<v Speaker 4>to the church at self within a matter of months
<v Speaker 4>sending us cans of Viennas.
<v Speaker 2>Just unbelievable, unfucking believable.
<v Speaker 4>And if you did a reason to hang around for
<v Speaker 4>our interview later with Gabe, know that unlike us, he
<v Speaker 4>has eaten viennas. You damn right grew up on that
<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff, and he's gonna we got we got
<v Speaker 4>a whole, we got a whole fucking we got a
<v Speaker 4>thing of Viennas. I didn't even touch it. I was horrified,
<v Speaker 4>horrified to put those things in my mouth. Maybe we'll
<v Speaker 4>do it for a live show. Yeah, maybe maybe that'll
<v Speaker 4>be the thing. We'll eat a can of Vienna's life.
<v Speaker 2>And I guess they it spreads like I just don't
<v Speaker 2>give it away or don't give it away, No, don't
<v Speaker 2>give it away. Oh sorry.
<v Speaker 4>Of course ninety percent of the people probably know exactly
<v Speaker 4>what the HEAs like and have had it and don't
<v Speaker 4>think it's a big deal because it isn't. SID makes
<v Speaker 4>it a big deal, of course, right, But yeah, that
<v Speaker 4>that that to come.
<v Speaker 2>So we're here. Wow. I don't know what more can
<v Speaker 2>be said besides my god, what have we done? Yep?
<v Speaker 4>And what if you've done out there? We started doing
<v Speaker 4>these because all those years ago TLFX style, we started
<v Speaker 4>getting these unbelievable letters when we do shows unsolicited. Really yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and people were just blowing our minds by how fascinating
<v Speaker 4>the insights were that they could bring to the table.
<v Speaker 4>You've seen it on cinemat I mean, it's unbelievable how
<v Speaker 4>many cinophiles are on Patreon, and like, you must be
<v Speaker 4>so happy to know that, like when you go deep
<v Speaker 4>on a movie, like if there's a blind spot or
<v Speaker 4>if there's something, people are going to find.
<v Speaker 2>It for you, yep, yep, absolutely absolutely, And and I
<v Speaker 2>enjoy engaging I enjoy engaging with them on Patreon whenever
<v Speaker 2>I can, but yeah, it's great, it's great. I love
<v Speaker 2>there is a it's a wonderful forum. For sure. I
<v Speaker 2>break this rule all the time, but I do.
<v Speaker 4>I basically have like this soft policy of I can't
<v Speaker 4>read on these feedback shows all of the does this
<v Speaker 4>qualify for X reason emails? Because we get so many
<v Speaker 4>of them, and you see them all, so it's not like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>you're the person that needs to see him. It's not
<v Speaker 4>like everyone necessarily needs here all of them. Some of
<v Speaker 4>them are just hilarious though, like.
<v Speaker 2>I do love some of the What was one one was, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I know, to qualify to qualify from Russia with Love?
<v Speaker 2>The fact that the end of the movie takes place
<v Speaker 2>on the Orient Express and that the Oran Express was
<v Speaker 2>a tag team in the w W A. That's a
<v Speaker 2>pretty good one. It's pretty fucking amazing, you know what
<v Speaker 2>I mean.
<v Speaker 4>It's like, why is the term Orient Express a thing
<v Speaker 4>that would cross Vince's mind when naming the tag team?
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it was from Russia with Love? Though,
<v Speaker 2>Oh really I think it was. I mean, the Oran
<v Speaker 2>Express is a train and there was also murder on
<v Speaker 2>the Oron Express. Yep, you know there's a bunch of movies.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe maybe James Bond, but I don't I
<v Speaker 2>make a good point. I'd have to get some at
<v Speaker 2>that point, you need to find proof that. I had
<v Speaker 2>to find proof that that was it, Like, oh, they
<v Speaker 2>know'm a big fan of from Russia with Love and
<v Speaker 2>you know they rode the Orn Express.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, tag team. So I thought there was something an
<v Speaker 4>Express that's right. Started also doing it because we couldn't
<v Speaker 4>believe how many people, even in the earliest days, deemed
<v Speaker 4>us worthy of financial support via this Patreon platform, and
<v Speaker 4>we put it out there. We thought it would be cool,
<v Speaker 4>but but like people are like no, like, seriously, tell
<v Speaker 4>me where to fucking sign Like, okay, this could actually
<v Speaker 4>be a thing here, Like yeah, you know, the amount
<v Speaker 4>of hours we're putting in isn't just personal pride, it's
<v Speaker 4>also something that people want and want to give us
<v Speaker 4>a signal that they wanted to keep doing. And so
<v Speaker 4>we've made it a practice ever since, no matter how
<v Speaker 4>much time passes and how long the list gets, to
<v Speaker 4>thank everybody who logs into patreon dot com and puts
<v Speaker 4>a little money in the kitty to help this whole
<v Speaker 4>machine run. And so we'll engage in the exercise one
<v Speaker 4>more time here as we embark on a new year
<v Speaker 4>and a new decade of lapsed What do you say, boss.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan Victor.
<v Speaker 4>We want to thank you for upping your pledge significantly
<v Speaker 4>and for your support here at TLFHQ. We do also
<v Speaker 4>want to thank Graveyard Entertainment, who's a long time serious
<v Speaker 4>ass supporter who recently upped his pledge a bit and
<v Speaker 4>even said, you know another podcast I was pledging to stopped.
<v Speaker 4>Guess where that money goes too.
<v Speaker 2>That is the spirit, yep.
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<v Speaker 4>can't take on the water that we do and stay afloat,
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<v Speaker 4>Big shout out to Lumpy who bit the bullet and
<v Speaker 4>put significant cake on the table. Jeremy up his pledge.
<v Speaker 4>We'd love to see the upping of pledges. That means
<v Speaker 4>people put their toe in the water and said, fuck this. Yep,
<v Speaker 4>I'm not about to look at like posts that I
<v Speaker 4>can unlock because of what tear I'm in. We're going hard.
<v Speaker 4>Austin Turner did it. He came right into that VIP
<v Speaker 4>level and we want to thank him very much for
<v Speaker 4>doing that. Chromas Slam, one of the best Solar System members,
<v Speaker 4>pointed out in our Saturday Nights Made have had live
<v Speaker 4>call that of all the throwback figures featured in that
<v Speaker 4>intro that we saw, remember that yeph the one that
<v Speaker 4>basically was all about nineteen ninety one and two, even
<v Speaker 4>though right that was hardly the heyday. The reason it
<v Speaker 4>was like that is because he didn't want to show
<v Speaker 4>Hulk Cogan. Did you realize hul Cogan was nowhere to
<v Speaker 4>be found in that whole thing? No Chromas Slam rights
<v Speaker 4>No Hogan in the intro Dot Dot Dot Brother, which
<v Speaker 4>is a good point. I mean, Hogan was actually in
<v Speaker 4>Florida walking a UFC fighter to the cage who got
<v Speaker 4>his ass b what exactly someone total health. There's a
<v Speaker 4>shooter that wants to see him and he he showed up.
<v Speaker 4>He showed up ten deep in terms of personal security
<v Speaker 4>as well. Who's this guy, dude, who were meeting you?
<v Speaker 5>What do you?
<v Speaker 2>What's the brother? What's the disio? Right?
<v Speaker 5>What?
<v Speaker 7>So?
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's another thing, Like you said, they're not
<v Speaker 4>ready to go all the way, you're gonna act like
<v Speaker 4>Saturday Night's main event. Nostalgia is about anybody more than
<v Speaker 4>it's about Hulkgan. That's a little ridiculous, but there's a
<v Speaker 4>there's a there's a there there. I mean, of course,
<v Speaker 4>there's a million reasons why you wouldn't welcome Hulk back
<v Speaker 4>into the into the fold wholehearted the line. But I
<v Speaker 4>thought that was interesting because we're learning under the Triple
<v Speaker 4>AH regime, or what appears to be the Triple A
<v Speaker 4>T regime, that there still are some third rails, there
<v Speaker 4>still are.
<v Speaker 2>Some no goes.
<v Speaker 4>He's not just gonna, you know, undo every bit of
<v Speaker 4>bad will that Vince had towards former folks. And so
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was really fascinating and well observed there
<v Speaker 4>by Chroma slam a Neil point. Ye fan of that
<v Speaker 4>point today. I appreciate that, yeah, for sure, And I
<v Speaker 4>didn't realize it. I can't believe it. I'm sitting there
<v Speaker 4>watching the intro and marking and every wrestler they're showing
<v Speaker 4>even was like, oh, yeah, of course we got to
<v Speaker 4>pretend Sean Michael's winning the intercontinental title on the on
<v Speaker 4>the last Saturday night's main event was an important milestone
<v Speaker 4>on the show as opposed to the death now you know,
<v Speaker 4>a symptom of it at being over. But kind of
<v Speaker 4>in that same vein, Neil pointed out something that I
<v Speaker 4>thought was intriguing. Of course, Cody wore the winged Eagle
<v Speaker 4>belt to the ring that night. That's because it didn't
<v Speaker 4>used to be better. By the way, if you're keeping
<v Speaker 4>score at home, and he says, one of the reasons
<v Speaker 4>I'm inherently distrustful of nostalgia is you guys rhapsodize about
<v Speaker 4>the wing eagle belt being the symbol of excellence and
<v Speaker 4>boom times when it wasn't the belt from the landmark
<v Speaker 4>Cogan nineteen eighties run. Yeah, I read this one. This
<v Speaker 4>was actually very fascinating to me. The Austin late nineteen
<v Speaker 4>nineties title Rain. Yeah, it was the belt when I
<v Speaker 4>was a kid, and the belt when the company was
<v Speaker 4>in its worst shape. Creatively and financially. He also says,
<v Speaker 4>why not keep the big Eagle belt? I get, not
<v Speaker 4>the winged eagle, it's the symbol, despite what Jack asserts
<v Speaker 4>of the company's dramatic decline in the nineteen nineties. But
<v Speaker 4>the big Eagle, the Austin Rock belt, that one symbolizes
<v Speaker 4>the promotion at its peak. Let's say, you to start,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, I mean I understand where that's coming from.
<v Speaker 4>It makes that makes sense, right, I mean, the fact
<v Speaker 4>is that that belt literally was brought in at the
<v Speaker 4>very the very, very very beginnings of what would become
<v Speaker 4>the decline. And but at the same time, I, I, well,
<v Speaker 4>what what design did the what designs last lasted longer?
<v Speaker 4>I guess I guess the scene of design. Huh, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I guess that one lasted longer. To me, it's not
<v Speaker 4>about last long. I think what it's about is no
<v Speaker 4>one has ever suggested bringing back the belt Hogan war
<v Speaker 4>before the winged Eagle belt.
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, he also had like eighteen belts that he were.
<v Speaker 2>He had the green strap like travesty, and then he
<v Speaker 2>had the then he had kind of that that weird
<v Speaker 2>little oval shaped thing, and oh no, then he had
<v Speaker 2>that that I don't know what you call it, but
<v Speaker 2>it was looked like the w W the end WATV title,
<v Speaker 2>right right. And you know, so the belts that Hogan
<v Speaker 2>wore when they were on fire, no one wants to
<v Speaker 2>bring back. And the belt that Austin wore when he
<v Speaker 2>was on fire. I don't ever hear anyone talk about
<v Speaker 2>bringing those back, which is the point. The point has
<v Speaker 2>never been that the belt signifies the boom period. The
<v Speaker 2>point has been that it's the most beautiful professional wrestling
<v Speaker 2>belt ever created, right because I mean it was also unique.
<v Speaker 2>It didn't look like any other wrestling championship belt, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I was very very very unique.
<v Speaker 4>Look no further than the fact that Cody's whole psychology
<v Speaker 4>about winning the world title was to do what his father,
<v Speaker 4>Dusty couldn't when he went against Billy Graham and the
<v Speaker 4>Garden in seventy eight for the belt. That's not the
<v Speaker 4>belt Billy Graham wore, and that's certainly not the belt
<v Speaker 4>Dusty would have hoisted if he became champion. It's not
<v Speaker 4>like Cody wanted to bring that belt back. Even though
<v Speaker 4>the whole idea is to do what Dusty couldn't, he
<v Speaker 4>wants to bring back the belt that Dusty barely sniffed,
<v Speaker 4>never even challenged for as far as I recall, yep,
<v Speaker 4>because he knows what we know in our hearts that
<v Speaker 4>the wing Egle belt is the only belt that has
<v Speaker 4>ever mattered in terms of the absolute peak of design, geometry,
<v Speaker 4>proportion impact. And while it might not have been around,
<v Speaker 4>waste set a time of record business for the WWF,
<v Speaker 4>it's the only one anyone wants to keep alive. And
<v Speaker 4>so point made. But yeah, definitely, definitely a good observation
<v Speaker 4>in that you got to remember, it's the end of
<v Speaker 4>whole comania when that belt comes out. It really is
<v Speaker 4>right beginning of the end, we should say. All right,
<v Speaker 4>so let's see. We also hear from Carlo who writes
<v Speaker 4>to us regarding out living Vince, and this is of
<v Speaker 4>course in reference to the CID tribute where we played
<v Speaker 4>a clip of a shoot interview remark he made one
<v Speaker 4>time about after leaving WWF, he would run the bleachers
<v Speaker 4>like he would do for his exercise, and then get
<v Speaker 4>to the top and spit and step down. And it
<v Speaker 4>was like, Vince, he was stepping on right. And he
<v Speaker 4>took solace in the idea that he was going to
<v Speaker 4>outlive Vince McMahon one day and feel like he won,
<v Speaker 4>because at the time of that interview he was at
<v Speaker 4>a very clear loggerheads with Vince McMahon. Carla makes a
<v Speaker 4>great observation regarding out living Vince and to bring my
<v Speaker 4>English to gree to bear see lago and Othello Othello Iago,
<v Speaker 4>not lago Iago? Did he spell it right? Oh it's
<v Speaker 4>a capital I I'm sorry. I thought it was a
<v Speaker 4>lowercase l okay Iago and othello Othello. If that thou
<v Speaker 4>beest a devil, I cannot kill thee he stabs Iago,
<v Speaker 4>Lodovico wrench his sword from him, or Othello is disarmed Iago,
<v Speaker 4>I bleed, sir.
<v Speaker 2>But not killed. M that's Vince, baby, that is Vince.
<v Speaker 4>Of course, sid also had that weird fucking crash out
<v Speaker 4>thing about the Israel character that he came up. Oh
<v Speaker 4>my God, and Carlosa points out Genesis thirty two, twenty
<v Speaker 4>two to thirty two. After Jacob wrestles with God, God
<v Speaker 4>gives him a new gimmick, a new name, Israel. What
<v Speaker 4>do you think about that? Pal mm And she wrestled
<v Speaker 4>with God. That's me And every time you do, I'm
<v Speaker 4>gonna break your body part your body apart, you worthless
<v Speaker 4>piece of shit. I'm not a theologian, but I think
<v Speaker 4>it went something like that. I mean, it's just too
<v Speaker 4>rich some of the things that Sit ended up saying.
<v Speaker 4>We also talked about it really is. I mean he
<v Speaker 4>was such a I mean, what a bizarre He's sound
<v Speaker 4>of his fucking mind, he really is. You hear the
<v Speaker 4>guy talk for like twenty minutes and you're like, what, Like,
<v Speaker 4>it's not psychobabble, it's not like he's speaking in tongues,
<v Speaker 4>but it's like, like, why did you say all that?
<v Speaker 8>Like?
<v Speaker 7>What? What?
<v Speaker 4>What point you're trying to make there? Like I followed
<v Speaker 4>the words that came out of your mouth, but I'm
<v Speaker 4>not understanding why you said that. That's like, what am
<v Speaker 4>I supposed to write?
<v Speaker 2>How is that to follow?
<v Speaker 5>Right?
<v Speaker 2>Right?
<v Speaker 4>That's how he would say it. We also talk about Lambert's,
<v Speaker 4>which is a restaurant that, uh, that was I believe
<v Speaker 4>it came up. I'm not mistaken. Sid was trying to
<v Speaker 4>recall where he met with Eric Bischoff to come back
<v Speaker 4>in ninety nine. Was it a Cracker Bell or was
<v Speaker 4>it a Lambert's? Or maybe he met someone at a
<v Speaker 4>Lambert's down the street or something. Yeah, and we're like,
<v Speaker 4>what is Lambert? We just won't hip to it, and
<v Speaker 4>Blake immediately pipes up, I saw Lambert's mentioned. I come
<v Speaker 4>from Sykeston, which is in Missouri. Not sure if you
<v Speaker 4>were aware of the story of the family when Todd.
<v Speaker 4>I guess Todd is the progenitor of Lambert's restaurant. Of course,
<v Speaker 4>this is the home of the throw role. I think
<v Speaker 4>it's called where they actually they throw. They throw the
<v Speaker 4>roll across the restaurant if you put your hand up
<v Speaker 4>instead of delivering a basket of bread to your table.
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. It's kind of funny. Would I
<v Speaker 2>would love to experience that?
<v Speaker 4>And you tell me, would this be the story of
<v Speaker 4>somebody who found out a restaurant chain that engaged in
<v Speaker 4>such tactics. When Todd died, I'm sure high in cocaine
<v Speaker 4>and ludes, Blake writes, just took it. Just look at
<v Speaker 4>the face. Norman, the patriarch fell apart. He eventually shot
<v Speaker 4>himself in his driveway, but there were rolls to be sold.
<v Speaker 4>The later turmoil involved in one of the suns being
<v Speaker 4>a child sex pest gentlemen, we are beyond the looking glass.
<v Speaker 2>Here we are Vienna. Yeah that I'm down with. We
<v Speaker 2>are Vienna. And he's sent us a tweet about someone
<v Speaker 2>in the family and the guy who killed himself named Norman,
<v Speaker 2>and it says the tweet says, it's just it's just
<v Speaker 2>a screenshot, so it's it's kind of funny, and it's
<v Speaker 2>just like someone tweeted this in all earnestness.
<v Speaker 4>Norman got cancer and didn't want to be a burden
<v Speaker 4>to his family. He mowed front and backyard, washed both cars,
<v Speaker 4>then blew his brains out with a handgun. What the
<v Speaker 4>fuck Lambert's Lambert's darkness. That's right, So just the line says,
<v Speaker 4>throwing a roll, all right, boss. The the end of
<v Speaker 4>the Bond Journey hit people in the fields, Luke wrote,
<v Speaker 4>I wept watching this movie at the cinema. You know
<v Speaker 4>what movie is talking about? Take care, guess well, no
<v Speaker 4>time to die, No time to die. I wept watching
<v Speaker 4>this movie at the cinema. I wet watching it again recently,
<v Speaker 4>and I wept listening to this episode. Just beautifully done.
<v Speaker 4>Stuff boys, Thanks UTC, Yep, Matt, Hello CoA chairs. I
<v Speaker 4>was sick and tired of being a three sixteen tier
<v Speaker 4>jobber and decided to politic my way into the mid
<v Speaker 4>card by joining the executive producer Tear. I'm not sure
<v Speaker 4>if anyone Lapsed Universe or the mainstream media has picked
<v Speaker 4>up on this yet, but I wanted to share a
<v Speaker 4>quick observation about Chapel Roane. Do you know Chapel Roane
<v Speaker 4>Boss Chapel ron No, I don't know a singer.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 4>At the roughly fifty one second mark in her hit
<v Speaker 4>single Pink Pony Club, she says club exactly like lapsed
<v Speaker 4>Bruno Club, Merry Christmas in.
<v Speaker 2>That that would be CLAHB Club. I have to listen
<v Speaker 2>to it. I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I think she's from like Missouri. I don't know why
<v Speaker 4>should say it like that, but now I must find it.
<v Speaker 4>He also wrote back this hilarious. He writes back and says,
<v Speaker 4>I dropped the bisl I put Universe instead of Solar
<v Speaker 4>System in my email. The pain and shame never rands
<v Speaker 4>does not. There are proprieties around here, there are, you
<v Speaker 4>know etiquette. Great interview with Tony Van Silva, which you've
<v Speaker 4>heard by now, what a story that was?
<v Speaker 7>Boss?
<v Speaker 4>Finding about this guy as you're researching the Bond films
<v Speaker 4>knowing he was a grappler and having no idea about
<v Speaker 4>anything further about him. But the man was alive. And
<v Speaker 4>when the man is alive, boss, that's when we really
<v Speaker 4>start doing some damage.
<v Speaker 2>Gotta give you know, gotta gotta give it a shot,
<v Speaker 2>you know. There I listen. I reached out to Joe
<v Speaker 2>Fowler that time, try to get to try to see
<v Speaker 2>if I could get get in touch with him. He
<v Speaker 2>never responded, and you know, just lucked out, lucked out
<v Speaker 2>that he that he was as cool as a fucking cucumber.
<v Speaker 2>Oh so ready for something like this. Yeah, And I'm
<v Speaker 2>happy that he you know. And then I mean, and
<v Speaker 2>let me tell you this. So I I told him,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I on Patreon, I posted all those pictures,
<v Speaker 2>all those pictures.
<v Speaker 4>Of him, of him black and white in the wrestling trunks,
<v Speaker 4>just shooting, you know, catching his catch can yep.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, and I asked him. I asked him,
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, hey, because it's like I thought
<v Speaker 2>it'd be fun when I was designing whatever the the
<v Speaker 2>you know, poster idea was going to be for the episode,
<v Speaker 2>Like I was like, you know, it'd be fun to
<v Speaker 2>have an actual, an actual photo of him instead of
<v Speaker 2>you know, the ones like a photo of him wrestling
<v Speaker 2>if you had them. And so I just askedim, I said,
<v Speaker 2>you have a picture of you I could use as
<v Speaker 2>the as the poster for it. And he sent me
<v Speaker 2>ten pictures amazing from his illegitimate wrestling days, from his
<v Speaker 2>legitimate wrestling days and from his uh stunt stuff. Like
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's absolutely spectacular, and they're beautiful, beautiful pictures.
<v Speaker 2>So really, I can't. I'm eternally grateful that that not
<v Speaker 2>only that he was he was cool enough to come
<v Speaker 2>on and and talk with us for an hour, but
<v Speaker 2>also the fact that he is like, you know, let
<v Speaker 2>me know if you need anything else and uh and
<v Speaker 2>and he and he had fun. Just a great, great guy.
<v Speaker 4>It's great when we considerenade wrestlers when they're still alive
<v Speaker 4>instead of after they've pack.
<v Speaker 2>Again rediscovered them like that, we'll discover them like rediscovery.
<v Speaker 2>Fuck rediscovered discover If we don't exist, no one knows
<v Speaker 2>the story of this guy's wrestling career, and no one
<v Speaker 2>cares no and and and this guy's fast, and he's
<v Speaker 2>got so many stories. I don't think that I I. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I forged you the story that he told me. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I got me a MeMail he people should know this.
<v Speaker 2>After the interview dropped, he wrote you a follow up
<v Speaker 2>because this guy loved the fact that someone cared enough
<v Speaker 2>to reach out and hear him out.
<v Speaker 4>Yep, amazing. He wrote Hi, just to say thank you
<v Speaker 4>for the interview. If you need any more andf'll let
<v Speaker 4>me know. I forgot to tell an amusing story. I
<v Speaker 4>was in a tag team with a man called Bruce Britton.
<v Speaker 4>He had no shape at all, so someone nicknamed him
<v Speaker 4>snake Hips. We were top of the bill against the
<v Speaker 4>Coggins Brothers, glamour Boys of the South, white boot trunks
<v Speaker 4>and jacket. Bruce arrives with an Ali Baba basket. It
<v Speaker 4>had a snake inside. His friend had a pet shop,
<v Speaker 4>so we were in the ring first to lots of booze.
<v Speaker 4>I lift the lid off the basket and pulled the
<v Speaker 4>snake out. It's limped like a piece of rope.
<v Speaker 2>It had died. Oh.
<v Speaker 4>I shook it about, draped it around Brook's neck. We
<v Speaker 4>both had our hands on it. I then put it
<v Speaker 4>around my neck. Then we looked like we fought to
<v Speaker 4>get the snake back in the basket and had suffocated
<v Speaker 4>because of the cigarette smoke. His friend was not too pleased.
<v Speaker 4>In nineteen seventy one, it was worth seventy dollars all
<v Speaker 4>the best, tony seventy pounds, all the best, Tony. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>do you mention getting that email?
<v Speaker 2>After talking to the guy for an hour, I was like,
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ, why couldn't we fucking how'd you forget that one?
<v Speaker 2>That's a key one, man. I'm sure he's got so
<v Speaker 2>many more, so many more.
<v Speaker 4>Guy was a fucking he worked under bird as Serati.
<v Speaker 4>This is like a guy that anyone who knows about
<v Speaker 4>turn of the century shooters knew was like regarded far
<v Speaker 4>and wide as like the toughest guy, like Stu Hart
<v Speaker 4>used to talk about bird Aserati is the toughest guy
<v Speaker 4>he ever came up against. He was a working pro wrestler,
<v Speaker 4>but he was a shooter as well, you know, trained
<v Speaker 4>and and and we got.
<v Speaker 2>Pictures of him working with him, we did.
<v Speaker 4>He had pictures of bird as Serati unbelievable, looking like
<v Speaker 4>a fucking cubby broccoli or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seriously, it's just what a.
<v Speaker 4>Pleasure, What a pleasure? And Christopher wrote on Patreon. I
<v Speaker 4>loved his honesty and humility. Zero bullshit detected. Wasn't that
<v Speaker 4>a surprise? You know that the guy who's a carny
<v Speaker 4>like that didn't feel like he lied to us once,
<v Speaker 4>not even close.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, you know, I mean, uh, he he just
<v Speaker 2>he was honest about it.
<v Speaker 9>He he.
<v Speaker 2>You know, he's he's he's a person and I and
<v Speaker 2>I do feel like that from you know, especially with
<v Speaker 2>researching pat Roach and stuff like that, there is a
<v Speaker 2>much more down to earth kind of not as you know,
<v Speaker 2>you know, got to protect k fabe right mentality right
<v Speaker 2>over in the UK regarding wrestling, right, I think they
<v Speaker 2>do to a degree, but they they also you know,
<v Speaker 2>admit what it is and they're okay with that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>It really was refreshing to hear how head on he
<v Speaker 4>was able to tackle those questions that I've always wondered about,
<v Speaker 4>you know, those styles in early nineteen hundred's British club wrestling,
<v Speaker 4>Like what what did the spectator think they were watching?
<v Speaker 8>Like?
<v Speaker 4>Right, did the spectator think it was real? Because from
<v Speaker 4>what I can tell, the style you you worked really
<v Speaker 4>could have allowed you to convince people it was real.
<v Speaker 4>But no, they were out there pantomiming. They were out there,
<v Speaker 4>you know, exaggerating and trying to get laughs out of
<v Speaker 4>the crowd as much as they were trying to get
<v Speaker 4>you know, a dramatic rise out of them is just wonderful.
<v Speaker 4>And if we did nothing else in podcasting to surface
<v Speaker 4>the story of a guy like that, or a guy
<v Speaker 4>like Tom Fleming who worked for ww F in the
<v Speaker 4>art department, these little moments and opportunities we've had talking
<v Speaker 4>to fucking Brell Kurt Fuller, mm hmm, these little moments
<v Speaker 4>where we actually like talk to the outside world and
<v Speaker 4>in some cases elevate the stories trick me under the
<v Speaker 4>cinemat yep of people that you never would have really
<v Speaker 4>known about the contributions that that would have made it
<v Speaker 4>worth it. Another miss of relative to a gift under
<v Speaker 4>our tree this year is part of the unwrappening. Remember
<v Speaker 4>we got a copy of the European Rampage show in
<v Speaker 4>Germany and one on a big wrong thing about what
<v Speaker 4>is European Rampage, because there's twenty three shows named European Rampage.
<v Speaker 4>Ben who sent the gift from Germany, was quick to
<v Speaker 4>follow up immediately to let us know his perspective on
<v Speaker 4>things and try to delineate show from show. Dear coach Chairman,
<v Speaker 4>this follow up emeal is necessary for different reasons. First off,
<v Speaker 4>you asked yourself how merry Christmas is said in German, Well,
<v Speaker 4>that's freu wine Hutchin.
<v Speaker 2>I hope I didn't screw it up too badly freu Viimhunchin.
<v Speaker 4>At the end of my letter that you butchered would
<v Speaker 4>have been it, Yeah, butcher did. All right, Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 4>Vine right you pronounced w V. Then you wanted to
<v Speaker 4>know what I had against the Pain in the Pacific
<v Speaker 4>series and you wanted to follow up on that. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I forget this. Let me say first, I'm a big
<v Speaker 4>fan for almost a decade now, and I've listened to
<v Speaker 4>every single TLF episode multiple times, so it's very rare
<v Speaker 4>that I don't dig what you, chairman offer. And I
<v Speaker 4>also encountered countless times when you drop something that I
<v Speaker 4>was skeptical about it first and then totally in love
<v Speaker 4>while listening to it. So that is that the only
<v Speaker 4>exception in all these years is the Pain in the
<v Speaker 4>Pacific series. I liked the North Korea episode and everything
<v Speaker 4>after that felt like you guys say, changiyachi, pumba gachi,
<v Speaker 4>and sompahachi for.
<v Speaker 2>Hours on end.
<v Speaker 4>I was very surprised myself and glad when it was over.
<v Speaker 4>But since you guys are so proud of it and
<v Speaker 4>I normally love everything you take a deep dive on,
<v Speaker 4>I will give it a second try in the new year.
<v Speaker 4>That's the spirit, Ben. But what about again, I don't
<v Speaker 4>know what about it?
<v Speaker 2>What was I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>He just doesn't think it's funny when we have a
<v Speaker 4>laugh at the way words are pretty instant Japanese. Oh,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm yeah, okay, I mean it's fair. It's
<v Speaker 4>there's some legendary matches too, that we had a lot
<v Speaker 4>of fun with. When I think of pan Off s Pacific,
<v Speaker 4>I don't think of like. I don't think of laughing
<v Speaker 4>at the Japanese announcers. I think of a ready Savage
<v Speaker 4>versus nature Tenryo, like I think of power bombs where
<v Speaker 4>he's being stacked up like he's a junior heavyweight.
<v Speaker 2>I think of I think of Randy Savage not knowing
<v Speaker 2>who Lanny is, and Lanny, uh, you know, watching Elizabeth
<v Speaker 2>for Randy when he's overseas.
<v Speaker 4>That's where that came. From That's exactly right. I do
<v Speaker 4>think he Chubon is Hogan's on, but I think of
<v Speaker 4>a Axi boom bag, you know, I think of like
<v Speaker 4>I think of Hogan. I mean this step over and
<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe it's the you know, I don't have to
<v Speaker 4>go and and and re listen to it myself, but
<v Speaker 4>I for me anyway, it's not necessarily the im I
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be laughing or making fun of the words.
<v Speaker 2>It's really the enthusiasm. Yeah, well, the announcers and I
<v Speaker 2>just don't know how to say Japanese words, so murder.
<v Speaker 2>Every time someone does something right, it's like it's more
<v Speaker 2>about how they scream and and are you know, just
<v Speaker 2>fucking blowing blood vessels left and right that I think
<v Speaker 2>is hilarious just because of their intensity, Like it's amazing.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and again I don't know how to say.
<v Speaker 2>If I knew how to say Japanese words, I would
<v Speaker 2>be more respectful of the Japanese words, but I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Japanese, so it's I if I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to imitate a Japanese commentator, it's gonna be complete nonsense.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just here for at the top of my lungs
<v Speaker 2>Hogan stepping over into an armbar exactly. You know what
<v Speaker 2>I mean. We're fucking doing a drop toe hold, you know,
<v Speaker 2>into a yeah, like come on, yeah, when he does
<v Speaker 2>the fucking rolling arm bar, that's just you know, we're
<v Speaker 2>in a whole different level here, right.
<v Speaker 4>And last, but not the least, he writes, I wanted
<v Speaker 4>to clear up the European Rampage nineteen ninety two BS.
<v Speaker 4>That name was used so often by the WWE that
<v Speaker 4>it stays confusing to you. I noticed all that other
<v Speaker 4>European Rampage nineteen ninety two stuff aside. The event you
<v Speaker 4>got from me is a German only event from Munich
<v Speaker 4>which ushered in the Golden.
<v Speaker 2>Period over here. Very interesting as far as I know.
<v Speaker 4>The Colisseum European Rampage nineteen ninety two also has a
<v Speaker 4>Savage versus h Tobk match?
<v Speaker 2>Is that true? Do you resin? Yeah, yeah, we did
<v Speaker 2>that one. Then it has the Sid and Sid and
<v Speaker 2>Undertaker match, but that is after WrestleMania two.
<v Speaker 4>But that is from London. WrestleMania right, nineteen ninety two?
<v Speaker 4>You mean yeah, you said WrestleMania too. You mean WrestleMania
<v Speaker 4>in Russlania. Yeah, Wrestlinia eight rather, but that.
<v Speaker 2>Is from London.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe one or two of the Munich matches also made
<v Speaker 4>it to the other cassettes, but this event as a
<v Speaker 4>whole is forgotten by time and surely was never on
<v Speaker 4>the network because it only exists in German and was,
<v Speaker 4>as far as I know, only released in Germany.
<v Speaker 2>Back then.
<v Speaker 4>The ww station Tel Aviv made it a big weekend
<v Speaker 4>sports special. That is the version I've sent you this year,
<v Speaker 4>and they also released it as a German cassette. That's
<v Speaker 4>the version from last year. So I'm ninety nine percent
<v Speaker 4>sure that you have not seen the show before, you
<v Speaker 4>would remember a good two hours of the Finest nineteen
<v Speaker 4>ninety two German commentary by Karston Shah. Trust me, I think,
<v Speaker 4>oh yes, I think the show has some amusing moments.
<v Speaker 4>Hitman wants to fuck, the interview Lady the Bulldog is
<v Speaker 4>on all wow, good old times. Plus Germany was totally
<v Speaker 4>on fire with the WWF in nineteen ninety two. So
<v Speaker 4>if you guys want to give it the treatment, let
<v Speaker 4>me know in advance and I'll give you back story,
<v Speaker 4>translations and everything. He sounds like a deal, Ben, What
<v Speaker 4>do you say, boss, I think we have to put
<v Speaker 4>that one fast track. That motherfucker.
<v Speaker 2>Enough of all that, he writes, I hope you guys
<v Speaker 2>haven't say there were two.
<v Speaker 4>He gave us two, yeah, he said, the year before
<v Speaker 4>he gave us the one that was released as a
<v Speaker 4>German VHS cassette. Oh so it's that European rampage, but
<v Speaker 4>this is the one that aired just to say television
<v Speaker 4>special and wasn't released as a standalone VHS tape.
<v Speaker 2>Enough of all that.
<v Speaker 4>I hope you guys have an awesome Christmas with your
<v Speaker 4>loved ones. Don't stop the good work. Greetings from Germany,
<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna.
<v Speaker 2>Try it again. Freud Vine Hotchen, Ben bro Vine Hotchin.
<v Speaker 2>I a love that international base. Yes hear it, totally.
<v Speaker 4>TLFHQ David writes on the Tony Van Sylvan Interview, awesome interview.
<v Speaker 4>Glad you gave this lovely gent the chance to discuss
<v Speaker 4>his career. Hoping he dusts off those boots, puts on
<v Speaker 4>that clown suit and does a four fifty like Andre.
<v Speaker 4>That is one thing we forgot to ask him as
<v Speaker 4>if he can do a four to fifty splash?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Did he did? He was he how often and how
<v Speaker 2>often did he jump off the top rope to the
<v Speaker 2>floor head first, head first? Exactly?
<v Speaker 4>I love the homie Zack's insights. He immediately picked up
<v Speaker 4>on this one on Sid. He wrote on Patreon, someone
<v Speaker 4>like Sid thinks they're a great liar because of the
<v Speaker 4>details in their lies. M But the extra small details
<v Speaker 4>just clue everyone with half a brain to the fact
<v Speaker 4>that this fool is lying to me. Yes, isn't that
<v Speaker 4>the truth? Yes, he's got these big convoluted like I
<v Speaker 4>walked in the door. The phone was ringing, it was
<v Speaker 4>clicked over and call waiting.
<v Speaker 2>I was my phone was I had to wipe off number,
<v Speaker 2>the number two because it had a little there was
<v Speaker 2>a dead bug on it.
<v Speaker 4>We got some uh, we got some squawking because the
<v Speaker 4>Sid thing was so long. Myron isn't with that, Myron
<v Speaker 4>writes on Patreon. Why did they only do ten deep
<v Speaker 4>dives for Sid? Is it because he's not a big
<v Speaker 4>movie star like Hull Cogan?
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Is that for the win?
<v Speaker 3>Or what?
<v Speaker 5>Uh?
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean, it's the It's that is you know
<v Speaker 2>I I I watched that clip so many fucking times
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid. It's it is one of
<v Speaker 2>those things that I just totally equate with Sid forever.
<v Speaker 2>Oh totally, almost more than almost more than uh than
<v Speaker 2>ruler of the world, totally. Like you know, it's like
<v Speaker 2>Bogus too, is from that right Bogus? Yeah?
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, no, Bogus, you ever pulled off Sid? And I
<v Speaker 10>want to know, is it because Sid Justice is a newcomer?
<v Speaker 10>It's because I'm not a big movie star.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a Hulk Hogan so good, such fucking great
<v Speaker 2>promot at the quote unquote press conference that Nope, that
<v Speaker 2>was like in a in like a cubicle.
<v Speaker 4>Neil makes a great point too, you know about the
<v Speaker 4>Sid journey, He writes, It's still unclear to me what
<v Speaker 4>will happen if I It's don't got me. It's still
<v Speaker 4>unclear to me. What will happen if I send a
<v Speaker 4>bunch of Vienna sausages to the middle of Arkansas. What
<v Speaker 4>will happen visa via the exchange of pro wrestling memorabilia?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna send him a graph picture.
<v Speaker 7>That.
<v Speaker 4>Scott Michael makes a great point. He says, another absolutely
<v Speaker 4>tremendous journey You've taken the solar system on with Sid.
<v Speaker 2>Here in the end.
<v Speaker 4>We may have lost Sid, but we still have Frank,
<v Speaker 4>who is a different type of sausage.
<v Speaker 2>I also lovely just fucking completely you know, like just
<v Speaker 2>buried Frank Journey, just completely buried.
<v Speaker 4>He was on Big Brother talking about how it's kind
<v Speaker 4>of tough being Sid's son. That's all we needed to hear.
<v Speaker 4>That's all we needed to hear. That's all we needed
<v Speaker 4>to hear. And we know exactly how he was treated.
<v Speaker 4>We know exactly what Sid did not do. The Vienna
<v Speaker 4>bat signal in the sky. What a great AI picture
<v Speaker 4>someone sent of us. So like the things Shining said
<v Speaker 4>in his hands on his hands, so, oh my god, dangerous.
<v Speaker 3>Man.
<v Speaker 4>If we can start like manifesting the fucking wild scenarios
<v Speaker 4>we come up with that easily, we're going to find
<v Speaker 4>ourselves in a very difficult position.
<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, speaking of by the way, I want
<v Speaker 2>to go back to quickly to uh the carnies are
<v Speaker 2>forever the guy crying. Did you see what they've been
<v Speaker 2>posting on Twitter? Oh my god, that's the serendipity we've
<v Speaker 2>been waiting for. Tell the people that so apparently I
<v Speaker 2>mean that the new James Bond is installed. They've they've
<v Speaker 2>kind of it's not happening right now. That Uh, also,
<v Speaker 2>what producer Brenda Broccoli, Who the fuck is Brenda Broccoli?
<v Speaker 2>That might just be Barbara Broccoli. That might just be
<v Speaker 2>a typo. And apparently like Broccoli, whoever the broccoli is,
<v Speaker 2>it's got to be here, he said, Like they're fucking
<v Speaker 2>idiots at Amazon for colling Amazon content exactly. And you
<v Speaker 2>know what, She's fucking right, you don't call Bond content unbelievable?
<v Speaker 4>Can imagine I'm so happy that she got annoyed by that. Yep,
<v Speaker 4>that that shows that there's still some sanity left in
<v Speaker 4>the world. And you can see some like total dip
<v Speaker 4>shit fucking digital native being like it's it's great content.
<v Speaker 4>We love Bond.
<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, listen, you know thinking about I mean, James
<v Speaker 2>Bond is prime content.
<v Speaker 4>Jesus Christ, back to your fucking pocket calculator. Ye, get
<v Speaker 4>the fuck off the negotiating table and and buy a
<v Speaker 4>pair of actual dress shoes.
<v Speaker 2>Do we favor Just fucking put your head down in
<v Speaker 2>a toilet, all right, and just stay there.
<v Speaker 4>How about in the end when Sid was talking about
<v Speaker 4>on his own podcast and the end of our journey
<v Speaker 4>about how like there was that guy who was such
<v Speaker 4>a big fan that he bothered him on the phone
<v Speaker 4>all the time and basically tried to move in with him.
<v Speaker 4>Remember that, and you see Joe you can't William writes
<v Speaker 4>on Patreon quote Joe, you can't come here. That's what
<v Speaker 4>Sid said the Sidduty story William Wright's Bottle of Water.
<v Speaker 4>I made a sentimental comment about Sid when this journey began.
<v Speaker 4>I still stand by saying that his charisma was unique
<v Speaker 4>and phenomenal. I always was aware of the Scissors story,
<v Speaker 4>but not the details. That was way more fucked up
<v Speaker 4>than I thought. I said that it seemed like he
<v Speaker 4>had a loving family than Frank.
<v Speaker 2>Poor kid.
<v Speaker 4>And still, after what forty hours William Wright's of the
<v Speaker 4>most definitive testimony to Sid's life, I still don't know
<v Speaker 4>what made him tick. I'm going to have to go
<v Speaker 4>back and do it again and see if I can
<v Speaker 4>glean more clarity. Thank you, gentlemen for your service, and
<v Speaker 4>Maysanta Claus bring you out what you want, but what
<v Speaker 4>you need. That one was that was a hidden gem,
<v Speaker 4>that Sid thing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah really was really was.
<v Speaker 4>Lucas mckechern. We want to thank you very much for
<v Speaker 4>your generous pledge and hope you enjoy the content that
<v Speaker 4>it affords you. Scott writes new utc Er. I was
<v Speaker 4>walking in my house, clicked on this, puzzled what it
<v Speaker 4>could be, and I stopped and stared when the boss
<v Speaker 4>said what it was? What do you think he was
<v Speaker 4>referring to.
<v Speaker 2>I believe I saw that. I think it was the
<v Speaker 2>Home Alone Christmas Special.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, the under the Centiment twenty two Christmas Special, which
<v Speaker 4>you posted without any hint in the title is time.
<v Speaker 2>I don't ever, that's the thing I do Christmas, the
<v Speaker 2>Christmas specials, never any That's what it is. It's the
<v Speaker 2>Christmas Special. There's no I don't want any give me clue.
<v Speaker 2>It's a surprise.
<v Speaker 4>We talked a little bit in the Sid Journey about
<v Speaker 4>a company that Sid worked for way later when he
<v Speaker 4>was doing some indie shots in his last years in
<v Speaker 4>the ring, called aw R and Steve and are men
<v Speaker 4>on the ground in Ireland quickly jumped in intoid a
<v Speaker 4>small correction for Jack A double A was an Irish
<v Speaker 4>wrestling company. American Wrestling Rampage. Okay, oh you got that straight.
<v Speaker 4>American Wrestling Rampage was an Irish promotion They did frequent
<v Speaker 4>tours of Europe.
<v Speaker 2>To be confused with the European Rampage. That's a whole
<v Speaker 2>different thing that was in America exactly. I understand African
<v Speaker 2>Rampage was in Columbia as well. Yes, that's what I heard.
<v Speaker 4>They did frequent tours of Europe with guys like Sid
<v Speaker 4>and Brett Hart. All the Irish wrestlers I've talked to
<v Speaker 4>have nothing but good things to say about working with
<v Speaker 4>Brett on these shows. RVD and Dupree were also semi
<v Speaker 4>regulars on the Irish scene, and we're champions in AWR.
<v Speaker 4>AWR itself was the precursor to OTT. I know, Ott. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>the Irish promotion. The elite worked at Scrapplemania three Steve Wrights.
<v Speaker 4>If I ever choose to go bankrupt, it will be
<v Speaker 4>trying to get that into the hopper. Wow, all right,
<v Speaker 4>I want to watch one day that the Young Bucks
<v Speaker 4>breakthroughs as global indie sensations and an Irish wrestling promotion.
<v Speaker 2>Boss. I mean, honestly, I would be fascinaing to see that. Nice,
<v Speaker 2>I would be fastening to see that.
<v Speaker 4>Well, Steve, I mean Savior Pennies, So go for it.
<v Speaker 4>Graveyard entertainment rights. Sid is the carneist of the Carnie.
<v Speaker 4>That podcast proves it.
<v Speaker 2>Damn.
<v Speaker 4>Jorome writes to us, Sid's passing was the greatest gift
<v Speaker 4>to this podcast because this tribute served us the perfect
<v Speaker 4>ending to the tenth year. That montage of him talking
<v Speaker 4>about Vienna's was absurd, hilarious, Oh my, sad and oddly moving,
<v Speaker 4>tlf and a nutshell.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I could not handle that. What were you
<v Speaker 2>going through? I mean I was. After about the first
<v Speaker 2>ten seconds, I put my thing on mute because I knew.
<v Speaker 2>I knew that I didn't want to be heard during this,
<v Speaker 2>and I also knew I could not contain myself listening
<v Speaker 2>to this.
<v Speaker 4>I lost it when he said stuff, tell somebody that
<v Speaker 4>can't have a can of viennas, like we all sympathize.
<v Speaker 2>What is this talking about? Where did you come from?
<v Speaker 4>It's tough Jack, Tracy, So tough Jack Tracy. There's a
<v Speaker 4>name for the ages. Thank you very much for your
<v Speaker 4>Patreon pledge. Welcome in, Jeff writes to us on Patreon.
<v Speaker 4>And in the end, the autograph pictures you take is
<v Speaker 4>equal to the.
<v Speaker 2>Vn as you make.
<v Speaker 4>Chad writes, I've got questions, had a few questions for
<v Speaker 4>you when you get around a Q and A one
<v Speaker 4>maybe somewhat relevant to the CID era and ninety two WWF.
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever contemplated a world boss where late ninety
<v Speaker 4>two Vince had made a play to get Piper back
<v Speaker 4>and put the world title on Piper instead of Brett.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, No, I've never thought of that once,
<v Speaker 2>Not one s has that ever crossed my mind.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it would work. I don't know if
<v Speaker 4>Piper going in in ninety three is some is a
<v Speaker 4>recipe for success. I feel like we got the answer
<v Speaker 4>at King of the Ring ninety four what Piper was
<v Speaker 4>worth in that era, and it wasn't.
<v Speaker 2>Much even I mean he was listen his his ninety
<v Speaker 2>one ninety two run was obviously for me, it was
<v Speaker 2>just wonderful, wonderful, absolutely, because I that's that's what I remember,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that was right right there in that sweet
<v Speaker 2>spot for me.
<v Speaker 4>But that was a Piper who was like but transitioned
<v Speaker 4>out of the ring, had the hit problem, was an
<v Speaker 4>announcer and was forced to come off the bench to
<v Speaker 4>kick ass one more time. That wasn't a Piper, that right,
<v Speaker 4>was going to be the best you know, wrestler in
<v Speaker 4>the promotion, thus reigning war.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, there's a part of me that damn
<v Speaker 2>well wished he fucking won the Royal Rumble ninety two. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>just to say that he fucking won both titles in
<v Speaker 2>one night.
<v Speaker 4>Does it get any better than when he comes out
<v Speaker 4>against Flair. I could watch that every day. That's amazing
<v Speaker 4>for the rest of my life.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. And then because you know what, ultimately it
<v Speaker 2>leads into this great fucking this great bit bye bye
<v Speaker 2>by Bobby Heenan, because then Jake's the next one out,
<v Speaker 2>and so Jake then attacks both Piper and Flair and
<v Speaker 2>Pipe and then Piper goes after Jake, and Bobby Heenen says,
<v Speaker 2>it's not a skirt, it's a kilt. It's a kilt.
<v Speaker 2>It's not a skirt. Then Piper goes to work on Flair.
<v Speaker 2>It's not a kilt, it's a skirt. Wow, he goes
<v Speaker 2>right back to it. He goes right back to it
<v Speaker 2>in mere minutes. Just some of the best like it's
<v Speaker 2>it's you want.
<v Speaker 4>To say it what Bobby Heenan, Bobby Heenan's Royal Rumbled
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety two call is the greatest call in the
<v Speaker 4>history of professional wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, easily, easily, I couldn't. I you can't disagree with
<v Speaker 2>that easily. It's so brilliant. There's so much it's.
<v Speaker 5>The uh.
<v Speaker 2>Because he's he's, he's in the he's he's just torn
<v Speaker 2>on so many different areas because he does have loyalties
<v Speaker 2>to other wrestlers, but none are as important as Flair.
<v Speaker 4>He gets Flair way over, Yes, he does. I mean
<v Speaker 4>without him as the voice as the soundtrack to Flair
<v Speaker 4>coming into WWF, it would have hit the skids a
<v Speaker 4>lot earlier than it did.
<v Speaker 2>I think way way more valuable for Flair as a
<v Speaker 2>commentator and a financial advisor, yes, than a manager or
<v Speaker 2>executive consultant. No question, Well there you go.
<v Speaker 4>No, I haven't considered it, and I'm not sure it
<v Speaker 4>would work, but Piper electrified me in that era. Man,
<v Speaker 4>I've been considering all the options. It might not have
<v Speaker 4>been a bad one if they had.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you had maybe, if you had you know,
<v Speaker 2>Piper win. I mean, I'll tell you what, this could
<v Speaker 2>be interesting if Piper does win the title. But you
<v Speaker 2>are trying to go to Brett, have Brett win the
<v Speaker 2>ninety three Rumble, Yeah, and then you have Piper and
<v Speaker 2>Brett have a rematch'd at WrestleMania nine.
<v Speaker 4>But again, that's like, that's putting the title on Piper,
<v Speaker 4>not because we want to see Piper rain. It's it's
<v Speaker 4>putting the title on Piper because it's a way to
<v Speaker 4>get to Brett, which is great. I'm not saying it's bad,
<v Speaker 4>but I think what he's asking us to consider it
<v Speaker 4>is putting the belt on Piper to see what he
<v Speaker 4>can do with it.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he don't much guy at that point.
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean ever was that guy?
<v Speaker 7>Not?
<v Speaker 2>Really?
<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think so. I think he could have
<v Speaker 4>been a good heel champion eighty five. Hogan could have
<v Speaker 4>chased him for like a year and a half and
<v Speaker 4>they could have made a lot more money than they
<v Speaker 4>did together. But at that point in Piper's career. Maybe always,
<v Speaker 4>if we really think about it, it was Piper's appeal
<v Speaker 4>was what would it look like if Piper got in
<v Speaker 4>this guy's face. It wasn't Piper right in and of himself.
<v Speaker 4>That was money. It was always what does Piper do
<v Speaker 4>to mister two? It was how Piper matched up with
<v Speaker 4>different people on the mic and in the ring. That
<v Speaker 4>intrigued us, not so much Piper reigning as champion, you know,
<v Speaker 4>and taking on all comers that I don't think that
<v Speaker 4>would work. It's like, you got to build up. People
<v Speaker 4>want to see Piper go after this guy, not build
<v Speaker 4>up other guys going after Piper. That just doesn't right,
<v Speaker 4>even if he's a gray baby face at that time.
<v Speaker 4>And he writes number two is the Colosseum collection still
<v Speaker 4>going to be a thing? You keep fucking tuned, Chad,
<v Speaker 4>because the video store never closes around here, and damn right.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for Vienna Mania and keep up the good work. Well,
<v Speaker 4>thank you, pal for the letter. Christopher also writes, when
<v Speaker 4>this started the Sid tribute, I felt Sid wasn't interesting
<v Speaker 4>to cover for more than one episode.
<v Speaker 2>I was wrong.
<v Speaker 4>Sid's a TLF cornerstone, and this has proven it to me.
<v Speaker 4>It hit me in the ass like a shot. I've
<v Speaker 4>looked forward to each episode since. Yeah, because it's not
<v Speaker 4>that Sid in and of himself, deserves like this. It's
<v Speaker 4>a Sid is It's so TLF like who he was
<v Speaker 4>and the way he talked and the way he decided
<v Speaker 4>to move through the world is just exactly what we're
<v Speaker 4>out to analyze on this show. Like he's not a
<v Speaker 4>SID tribute wouldn't really make sense. I don't think on
<v Speaker 4>any other podcast or any other wrestling news thing.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you do it.
<v Speaker 4>He dies, of course, but his career doesn't really warrant
<v Speaker 4>examination unless you have the peccadillos we do about the business,
<v Speaker 4>you know, and look for the things we look for,
<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden, he's the fucking the
<v Speaker 4>ultimate gold mine, which is another ruzon detra for us.
<v Speaker 4>Adam writes, the other podcast are competing for who's going
<v Speaker 4>to be number two? Number one is already written in stone.
<v Speaker 4>He also writes SID culturally in twenty twenty four, Vienna
<v Speaker 4>sausages child neglect being on the cover of Art of
<v Speaker 4>Rap Albums thoroughly dissected by the best goddamn podcast out there.
<v Speaker 4>That's how we're living boss going into twenty twenty five.
<v Speaker 4>That's yeah, so we're flowing.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 4>When I was going through some of the opponents that
<v Speaker 4>SID acrossed in that last decade on the indies, one
<v Speaker 4>of them was Big Larry, which I was not aware
<v Speaker 4>was a former wrestling name of the current Sammy z
<v Speaker 4>Ain of WWE and Sam from Michigan was quick to
<v Speaker 4>mention on Patreon Jack casually dropping a Big Larry reference
<v Speaker 4>and not mentioning that he would go on to be
<v Speaker 4>Samy's Ain as hilarious. I will, I do not know that,
<v Speaker 4>So that wasn't me being cute with it.
<v Speaker 2>Wait, what I don't understand.
<v Speaker 4>Big Larry was a former name of Sammy's ain. Oh
<v Speaker 4>and when we were reading some of the guys sid
<v Speaker 4>wrestled on the indies, Big Larry was one of them.
<v Speaker 4>And I think Sam thought I breezed by it, knowing
<v Speaker 4>full well who he was, when I didn't. He provided
<v Speaker 4>a great YouTube link where apparently, I mean, I don't
<v Speaker 4>know what to make of it. He's speaking in almost
<v Speaker 4>like a like a give accent, and he's it's it's
<v Speaker 4>it's Sammy's Ain trying to pass himself off as someone
<v Speaker 4>who's not a Caucasian, which I don't know if you
<v Speaker 4>it's very I don't writ anything about this gimmick, but
<v Speaker 4>it is very strange and very against type, and I
<v Speaker 4>would urge folks to check it out. I love more
<v Speaker 4>color on Big Larry was all about who apparently getting
<v Speaker 4>color what right Urban Douglas is. He's getting green. He
<v Speaker 4>came in big with a recent pledge on Patreon and
<v Speaker 4>is now entitled to all kinds of good He's mister
<v Speaker 4>fake entertainment. It goes for him too, as he's up
<v Speaker 4>the pledge significantly. Matt Anderson knows where it's at, and
<v Speaker 4>now he's ep in style and in substance work great
<v Speaker 4>midget rights to us. WCW had a standard CGL policy. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>we have folks in the solar system that know about
<v Speaker 4>life insurance boss and work with insurance. Oh my god,
<v Speaker 4>we have so many. He Sid made a third party
<v Speaker 4>over action claim high level and without the complaint. WCW
<v Speaker 4>insurance Company attempted to claim SID was an employee of WCW,
<v Speaker 4>thus the fellow employee exclusion was applicable. But SID was
<v Speaker 4>ten ninety nine, so the exclusion was not applicable. Hence
<v Speaker 4>WCW was granted coverage.
<v Speaker 2>Got that, No, but sure, thanks for the clarification.
<v Speaker 4>That's one man, you know, no matter how many times
<v Speaker 4>I read over stuff about the insurance, it's it's very hard,
<v Speaker 4>yeah to sink in. But yeah, so SID is trying
<v Speaker 4>to claim like he he wasn't. Wait a minute, hold on,
<v Speaker 4>there's an exclusion not applicable. There's an exclusion to what
<v Speaker 4>though attempted to claim Sid was an employee of WCW. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>So the insurance company of WCW was trying to claim
<v Speaker 4>he was an employee because apparently if they could prove that,
<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't have to pay as much or they wouldn't. Oh,
<v Speaker 4>you couldn't argue that Sid wasn't paid by what they
<v Speaker 4>paid WCW. Okay, this is correctact. Remember that they're like,
<v Speaker 4>we already paid WCW, and Sid's like, well, I don't
<v Speaker 4>work for WCW. So whatever clause you think means that
<v Speaker 4>I get paid what I'm paid just because what I
<v Speaker 4>deserve to be paid because you paid WCW doesn't apply
<v Speaker 4>because the way wrestling works, I am not an employee,
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not like you know, somebody that I can sue.
<v Speaker 4>I'm like a third party of this whole thing. I'm
<v Speaker 4>not an employee of WCW. The WCW gets paid for
<v Speaker 4>the injury and then give some to me. No, I'm
<v Speaker 4>on the outside of this whole arrangement. They got paid
<v Speaker 4>for revenue that they can claim they lost because I
<v Speaker 4>couldn't perform for them, but they didn't share any of
<v Speaker 4>it with me. He did get something, but he didn't
<v Speaker 4>get as much as he wanted, or something like that.
<v Speaker 4>So God damn, I'm just glad that work Greate Midget
<v Speaker 4>is out there the next time we have an insurance issue.
<v Speaker 2>That's all I have to say.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, but I hope for anyone that was confused by
<v Speaker 4>that part of the CID journey that what I just
<v Speaker 4>read to clarify something, or rather, Jared writes to us.
<v Speaker 4>This is important because the subject line boss is something
<v Speaker 4>we don't say as much as we used to, but
<v Speaker 4>it still rings. And that's for a reason. No longer
<v Speaker 4>a free loading bitch hmm. It is with great humility
<v Speaker 4>and a reckoning of my freeloading ways that I write
<v Speaker 4>to inform you I have ceased to be a freeloading bitch.
<v Speaker 2>Gratulations. I have joined the EP tier, finally taking responsibility
<v Speaker 2>for the immeasurable joy you've brought into my life this year.
<v Speaker 2>My journey here has been unexpected for years. A close
<v Speaker 2>friend and Solar System member insisted I listened to your show.
<v Speaker 2>I resisted staunchly. Yes, you did. I don't like podcasts,
<v Speaker 2>and I certainly wasn't going to commit to a five
<v Speaker 2>plus hours of one. But earlier this year I finally caved,
<v Speaker 2>and life would never be the same, right right. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not a chronological listener. I pick and choose the shows
<v Speaker 2>that appeal to me. I've journeyed through Scarblade and the Mains,
<v Speaker 2>and most recently, I finished the painfully satisfying Teenage Journey.
<v Speaker 2>I truly could not wait for it to end, but
<v Speaker 2>at the same time I needed it to keep going.
<v Speaker 2>Each of these has left a permanent mark. The true
<v Speaker 2>depths of the podcast penetration in my life became apparent
<v Speaker 2>when I took my youngest son, YEP, to his first
<v Speaker 2>WWE event in Buffalo as Bianca Belle air pinned Tiffany Stratton.
<v Speaker 2>I heard him count out loud one two fornoli. He
<v Speaker 2>did not what he says. That was the moment I
<v Speaker 2>knew this was no longer just a podcast. It was
<v Speaker 2>a way of life. YEP. When Spotify wrapped revealed over
<v Speaker 2>thirty one thousand minutes of sports podcast this year, could
<v Speaker 2>no longer bear the shape. I could no longer bear
<v Speaker 2>the shame of freeloading. I knew those minutes did not
<v Speaker 2>truly belong to that category, but alas Spotify does not
<v Speaker 2>have a separate category for that fake shit, right, it
<v Speaker 2>was clear as day now the time had come to
<v Speaker 2>step up, pay my dues and support the unmatched excellence
<v Speaker 2>you provide. Of course, as we know, this is America,
<v Speaker 2>so my generosity isn't completely selfless. This is a transactional
<v Speaker 2>relationship after all. Let's be real, correct, this is mostly
<v Speaker 2>about me wanting access to be under the cinematic content.
<v Speaker 2>That said, I'm happy to give back in exchange for
<v Speaker 2>all the amazing work you do. Thank you for the
<v Speaker 2>end of this laughter inside an absurdity, and thank you
<v Speaker 2>for hule Commania. Proud to now Stand Tall? Wait shit,
<v Speaker 2>what happened here? Why is this doing this? Brother? Okay,
<v Speaker 2>he's proud to stand Tall, so stand tall. It just
<v Speaker 2>a whole fucking away. Another program is suddenly opened up,
<v Speaker 2>and I couldn't get my fucking rob when I was
<v Speaker 2>reading Proud of sand Tall with my fellow Solar System members.
<v Speaker 2>Love it. Great stuff. That's the story right there. It
<v Speaker 2>is all in there.
<v Speaker 1>It's the la Fan Wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that
<v Speaker 1>knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.
<v Speaker 6>Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed
<v Speaker 6>Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to
<v Speaker 6>take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote
<v Speaker 6>for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling
<v Speaker 6>Podcast of the Year, click on the show's notes, follow
<v Speaker 6>the link and do the right thing.
<v Speaker 1>He's an Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and car
<v Speaker 1>and JPRO.
<v Speaker 4>I believe it's ca Hall McGonagall. I think that's how
<v Speaker 4>I pronounce. I remember cahel Pendrid and UFC. I want
<v Speaker 4>to thank you very much for the increase in your pledge,
<v Speaker 4>my friend. Great to have you in the solar system.
<v Speaker 4>Alex Or Ali rather writes Jack and JPM. Sorry, but
<v Speaker 4>only a goof like Sid would have the last name
<v Speaker 4>Udi for a shoot, it's all, he wrote.
<v Speaker 2>No, I take that, baty.
<v Speaker 4>He also said, Hey, Jack and JP, when discussing Sid,
<v Speaker 4>you forgot one key thing about his appeal. At least
<v Speaker 4>a ten year old me, this is a huge point
<v Speaker 4>that I can't believe I didn't emphasize more than we did.
<v Speaker 4>You see, it's real simple. The body glove, elbow sleeve yep,
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, I mean that's fucking critical. Yes it is
<v Speaker 4>his size, goofy promos that barely made sense and the
<v Speaker 4>power bomb were all part of the package, but it
<v Speaker 4>was the elbow sleeve that put him over the top.
<v Speaker 4>With ten year old me and my elementary school aged friends, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>because the body Glove was like a the the Bodyglove
<v Speaker 4>brand was like a thing when we were kids.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I I you know that that that
<v Speaker 2>that yellow logo I used to always think was some
<v Speaker 2>kind of I don't know what it was. I think
<v Speaker 2>it was like represented sid somehow. Well it was like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>in a weird way, it did, Yeah, in a weird
<v Speaker 2>way it did. But I didn't know it was a logo.
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was some kind of weird like it
<v Speaker 2>almost look like a nipple at times, like a weird
<v Speaker 2>yellow nipple. And I thought it was some kind of
<v Speaker 2>I don't know device with that with that armband. But
<v Speaker 2>for some reasons, quintessential, I always knew what it was.
<v Speaker 4>I must have been because kids were in bodyglove stuff.
<v Speaker 4>But that would happen today, like you can't, you're not
<v Speaker 4>really supposed to. I guess think I were a Nike
<v Speaker 4>sneaker sometimes, but you're not really supposed to wear like
<v Speaker 4>you know, brands on television that haven't you know, agreed
<v Speaker 4>to sponsor you and to be associated with you.
<v Speaker 2>But right there he is.
<v Speaker 4>Let that hit you like a shot. Alley writes, PSJP,
<v Speaker 4>do us all favor and please read the following as Sid,
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to send you a very very short list
<v Speaker 4>here of things he wants you to say as Sid.
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, here we go. Let the monkey dance ball, water.
<v Speaker 8>Shawmachaels Viennis, autographed picture, wrestler, movie.
<v Speaker 4>Star, lovely, the Bushwhackers Win. Thank you very much for
<v Speaker 4>your Patreon pledge.
<v Speaker 2>Great name the Bushwackers Win.
<v Speaker 4>Jared, who I think we just heard from in the letter,
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much for that pledge. Steve writes about
<v Speaker 4>Sid's leg break, can confirm how serious Sid's break is.
<v Speaker 4>My mom had the equivalent in her foot, where everything
<v Speaker 4>but one bone broke just before COVID shit. All these
<v Speaker 4>years later, it still causes her pain even with a
<v Speaker 4>successful surgery. Thanks for this much needed episode. Tomorrow I
<v Speaker 4>bury my one hundred and three year old grandmother, and
<v Speaker 4>listening to this has made tomorrow feel more manageable. Well,
<v Speaker 4>be about that ice indeed glad to be of service
<v Speaker 4>as always. Adam writes, I think what stands out of
<v Speaker 4>most TLF most is how organic and fluid it is.
<v Speaker 4>A two or three episode SID tribute turns into a
<v Speaker 4>near ten episode mini journey. Then someone else might die
<v Speaker 4>like OI and the cast gives him a few words.
<v Speaker 2>It's so true.
<v Speaker 4>What makes the TLF stand out is that it's consistently awesome,
<v Speaker 4>always funny, and no one knows where it's going to
<v Speaker 4>go next. Here's to another ten years.
<v Speaker 2>Boys. It's always about the timing. Honestly, of course it is.
<v Speaker 2>It's always about the timing. If someone dies, we're in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of something. They just no matter how important,
<v Speaker 2>Unless they're unless they're of something, you know, of real,
<v Speaker 2>real importance, you know we're not on time for that show.
<v Speaker 4>Look on, if Hulk Hogan died during the Lamentable tragedy,
<v Speaker 4>we would have known what to do.
<v Speaker 2>I know that would have been hard. I mean that
<v Speaker 2>would have been very, very hard. Paul writes.
<v Speaker 4>He had time code to one of the SID episodes
<v Speaker 4>where he quotes me saying favorite nations right and laps
<v Speaker 4>Hogan goes what the point about insurance? A minute ago?
<v Speaker 4>Andrew bakes a great point. Aren't all wrestler contracts workers compensation?
<v Speaker 2>Yes? The following is a workers compensation agreement wrestlers to receive.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my good, let's hear from Jake from Wisconsin. Hit
<v Speaker 2>it all right, here we go, dear co chairs. I'm
<v Speaker 2>reliving the thirty week journey, which I do every I
<v Speaker 2>guess year, along with the Stark Tour and hearing a
<v Speaker 2>fellow Sol's a member saying that WrestleMania eight was his
<v Speaker 2>go to show. That made me think of what what
<v Speaker 2>my go to think of what my go to shows are?
<v Speaker 2>Mine have to be WrestleMania three because growing up I'd
<v Speaker 2>always see the stair down between Hogan and Andre And
<v Speaker 2>when I finally got the DVD when I was twelve
<v Speaker 2>or thirteen years old, that hurts me. The fact here
<v Speaker 2>I am thinking that, you know, he's like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>grew up watching that show. But no, he's thirteen. If
<v Speaker 2>you're thirteen years old when DVDs are fucking coming out,
<v Speaker 2>you're I'm gonna kill you. He was born I said,
<v Speaker 2>right there, I was born ninety four. Fuck you, I'm kidding.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I'm not.
<v Speaker 4>How dare you might be ten or twelve years older
<v Speaker 4>than the younger than I am.
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, thirteen there, you'd be thirteen years
<v Speaker 2>old younger than I am. What And I still got
<v Speaker 2>goosebumps even well, I appreciate this, and I still got
<v Speaker 2>goosebumps even watching it all those years later and still
<v Speaker 2>gives me goosebumps. And my second go to show is
<v Speaker 2>jarr K eighty three, which I watch every Thanksgiving. I
<v Speaker 2>just love the dirty gritty look and I love the
<v Speaker 2>cage match and dog collar match. Well, all right, you
<v Speaker 2>won me back with all this stuff.
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you when I watch star K eighty three,
<v Speaker 4>I can smell turkey cooking.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I can smell. I mean right, I would
<v Speaker 2>to me, I look at that at that building, and
<v Speaker 2>I it to me, it must reek of the smell
<v Speaker 2>of stuffing, right.
<v Speaker 4>Because everyone's got it on their clothes, because right, the
<v Speaker 4>kitchen was full of aromatic sense before you run out
<v Speaker 4>to the matches.
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and you've got like turkey grease on your fingers
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.
<v Speaker 4>It can't help it, totally, absolutely, such an under discussed
<v Speaker 4>part of star K eighty three and future star Gredes
<v Speaker 4>for that matter, agreed just the sloppiness of the eaters,
<v Speaker 4>the sense baked into the fibers of their sweater exactly.
<v Speaker 2>And finally, my absolute go to show is not a
<v Speaker 2>fan favorite, and I really don't give a fuck, but
<v Speaker 2>it's my It's my show because it's the show I
<v Speaker 2>remember first seeing ever, and that's Star k ninety seven,
<v Speaker 2>even though I was only three years old. I can
<v Speaker 2>remember watching that show live on pay per view. Seeing
<v Speaker 2>Hogan versus Sting is what made me a lifelong fan
<v Speaker 2>of the sport of kings and I will always watch
<v Speaker 2>that show at least one year, sometimes twice. I love
<v Speaker 2>Austin Rock and Undertaker, but it was Hogan and Sting
<v Speaker 2>will always be my all time favorites because they are
<v Speaker 2>the two that made me fall in love with pro wrestling.
<v Speaker 2>Have a Merry Christmas. Love that, Yeah, I dig that.
<v Speaker 2>I totally dig that. That show has Mormon fuzzies for
<v Speaker 2>me too, for sure. I mean, you know, that's the
<v Speaker 2>thing you got to remember. I mean, favorite wrestlers are
<v Speaker 2>always about what you saw, you know, what was right
<v Speaker 2>there in front of you when you you know, whenever
<v Speaker 2>you saw wrestling for the first time, it's like it's
<v Speaker 2>so crucial, it's one of those beautiful things about it,
<v Speaker 2>and that's about the whole mess of fucking business. Yep.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And just see, it's so fun when you become
<v Speaker 4>an adult and get access to resources to be able
<v Speaker 4>to actually spend time figuring out why was that so impactful?
<v Speaker 4>Because it's not like everything I saw when I was
<v Speaker 4>a kid I remember fondly, So why was it that
<v Speaker 4>this match is the one I remember? And that's what's
<v Speaker 4>worth discussing as opposed to the broadstroke. You were a kid,
<v Speaker 4>and that's why you loved it. Now, there's a lot
<v Speaker 4>of stuff I didn't like when I was a kid, yep.
<v Speaker 4>And so what did rise to the level rose to
<v Speaker 4>the level for a reason, and it rose to that
<v Speaker 4>level for a lot of other people too. Scott Matthews,
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Tom,
<v Speaker 4>the homie, the number one Solar System member, writes TLF.
<v Speaker 4>He quotes something I said on the SID Tribute Volume nine.
<v Speaker 4>The quote is if only they knew the realities we
<v Speaker 4>uncover and the conclusions we are left to reach. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>he says, I don't suggest as lightly, but this, my friends,
<v Speaker 4>should be a T shirt. Tom will take it under advisement. Yep,
<v Speaker 4>Scott pointed out when we were going through the Fulton
<v Speaker 4>County court records on the sid injury stuff. Lol, we
<v Speaker 4>haven't tried the well meaning judge and Scott can confirm this.
<v Speaker 4>You know why because he happened to have listened to
<v Speaker 4>the UTC on Santa Claus, the movie which feature Daphne Daphne. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>where the judge a courting I don't remember this, but
<v Speaker 4>I laughed out loud and he read it back where
<v Speaker 4>the judge called the plaintiff Daphne guilty and I'm pretty
<v Speaker 4>sure he called her a fuck Yeah, so definitely not
<v Speaker 4>a well meaning judge there.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what fucking would I remember going to
<v Speaker 2>court with Daphne, but yeah.
<v Speaker 4>It's probably when she she sued over the concussion she
<v Speaker 4>got in TNA. Oh maybe William Wright. Hogan's lawyer ringtone
<v Speaker 4>is a MIDI version of real American the vibrations of
<v Speaker 4>which are so intense that they shake the pull chain
<v Speaker 4>off the bedside lamp. Yes, I agree with that phone
<v Speaker 4>is almost spinning from vibrating so much when Hogan calls.
<v Speaker 4>I just thought there was a funny image. One of
<v Speaker 4>the things we do in these feedback episodes. If you're
<v Speaker 4>not familiar, is pass along word pictures painted by the
<v Speaker 4>Solar System as well. Doesn't have to just be a letter,
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Wright. Let's do a tribute in the style of
<v Speaker 4>Sid to Savage Dusty or Piper you son of a bitch.
<v Speaker 4>That'd be something, be something, because you know, Piper died
<v Speaker 4>and Dusty died before we were equipped to really go
<v Speaker 4>like this, you know.
<v Speaker 2>I mean we did, we did do tributes for them,
<v Speaker 2>but not we did not they were single shows. They weren't.
<v Speaker 4>We didn't have the hubris to think that our fans
<v Speaker 4>would support us going right year by this before we did,
<v Speaker 4>like the medical tragedy, year by year, before we realized
<v Speaker 4>that we could get away with really taking our time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean listen, you know, like when they died,
<v Speaker 2>I mean they both I think they both died. The
<v Speaker 2>only thing we had done of that nature was, uh,
<v Speaker 2>was the Main's Journey. It's just there's year two.
<v Speaker 4>It's such a mischievous suggestion because over the years I've
<v Speaker 4>always thought of that. It's just there's no hours, there's
<v Speaker 4>no hours in the day.
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing.
<v Speaker 4>Like everything feels like something we should do above and
<v Speaker 4>beyond what we did what we the main show, you know,
<v Speaker 4>So it's it's hard, but I hear you, I hear you.
<v Speaker 4>That's all I can say. Because God help anybody else
<v Speaker 4>out there who thinks they're in the telling a wrestler
<v Speaker 4>story space. If we decide to go hard and anybody
<v Speaker 4>and everybody is supposed to just who happens to pass
<v Speaker 4>away at a convenient time for us to set aside
<v Speaker 4>the agenda? You know, like if Terry Funk died at
<v Speaker 4>another time, we wouldn't have done that, but he died
<v Speaker 4>at that time when you were doing the play, and
<v Speaker 4>we kind of didn't. We had kind of a wide
<v Speaker 4>open schedule with nothing that was so concrete that people
<v Speaker 4>would really miss it if we moved it.
<v Speaker 2>And it was it was, you know, and for me
<v Speaker 2>it was great to not have to really watch shows
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't have the time rehearsing the play. That's yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And that's what emboldened me too, to be like, you
<v Speaker 4>know what, let's actually do a watch a long style
<v Speaker 4>for the first time. Let's like let's come in cold
<v Speaker 4>and let's watch it like we watch cinemat movies or
<v Speaker 4>like we ww pay per views on Patreon now, yep.
<v Speaker 4>And because of that, we just could watch Terry Funk's
<v Speaker 4>whole career. Yeah, we didn't have to just decide, oh,
<v Speaker 4>we'll watch this match and we'll talk about these ten matches. No, well,
<v Speaker 4>we'll pretty much watch every match in promo of consequence
<v Speaker 4>that he ever did and the most remarkable career any
<v Speaker 4>wrestler has ever had, with the most diversity cross styles, geographies.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just ridiculous what he was.
<v Speaker 4>However, I think back on him, I'm like, wow, that
<v Speaker 4>was like ten careers that we talked about basically.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean no, seriously, it really was.
<v Speaker 4>The whole history of pro wrestling is there, from the
<v Speaker 4>NWA Champion era and the territories to to you know,
<v Speaker 4>what became of the business when he was still barely
<v Speaker 4>able to move but crack and Jerry Lawler over the head,
<v Speaker 4>you know, with three hundred people there, whether with a
<v Speaker 4>trash can or whatever the case is. Vipin writes, the
<v Speaker 4>game we play as simple. Two co chairs speak, one
<v Speaker 4>man listens like that, not too like that, Willie Thompson,
<v Speaker 4>thanks for the pledge, my friend, Cyrus the Virus always
<v Speaker 4>a strong supporter. Great to hear from him and thanks
<v Speaker 4>for the cake. Yancey writes subject line, yes, shut up,
<v Speaker 4>I'll take it away please.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, I love a good shot up that
<v Speaker 2>makes me happy. Here we go, okay, co chairs, Happy holidays.
<v Speaker 2>After you had another six hour drive back and forth
<v Speaker 2>to visit my parents for Thanksgiving, a ride consisting of
<v Speaker 2>you guys in my ear and Vienna's in my dreams.
<v Speaker 2>I knew what I had to do yet again. I
<v Speaker 2>quit being a freeloading bitch years ago, and I'm a
<v Speaker 2>faithful listener. But sometimes between the journeys, the live calls
<v Speaker 2>and the regular episodes, my little stink hole can only
<v Speaker 2>take so much, and I fall episodes, weeks and journeys behind.
<v Speaker 2>But I persevere. I have resolve. It will be zoomed.
<v Speaker 2>But the long and meaty hours of content is partly
<v Speaker 2>why I have never made the jump to a higher level.
<v Speaker 2>I can barely take all of your girthy giving as
<v Speaker 2>is do I dare have the courage to open up
<v Speaker 2>a little more. But as I recently sat on my
<v Speaker 2>lunch break listening to the monchamen, go ahead, you can
<v Speaker 2>do it. Listening to the monchumen trying his damnness to
<v Speaker 2>get it hard, for a ride of fuck, for a
<v Speaker 2>night of fucking yes, and Sid telling Vince and any
<v Speaker 2>and everyone to shut up, and my personal favorite, a
<v Speaker 2>line that has stuck with me since the night my
<v Speaker 2>brother and I saw it so many years ago, Live
<v Speaker 2>I don't know shit crown Baby the Best, the Best,
<v Speaker 2>which I found equally cutting to Brett and hilarious for
<v Speaker 2>obvious reasons. I felt that tug, that little tinge of
<v Speaker 2>guilt yep, yep. And I'm not nearly giving back I'm giving.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not that I'm not given nearly back to even
<v Speaker 2>come close to match what you have given to the
<v Speaker 2>solar system and to me. And then JP starts talking
<v Speaker 2>about those who have pledged, always a favorite part of
<v Speaker 2>the episodes for me, and why people pledge, and asks
<v Speaker 2>us to think about the hours and hours and hours
<v Speaker 2>and hours and hours that go into making this wonderful
<v Speaker 2>piece of art. And I knew I needed to jump
<v Speaker 2>to a higher level. So I have not because I
<v Speaker 2>can handle it, not because I necessarily even want more content,
<v Speaker 2>not because I'm dying to dive into movies, but because
<v Speaker 2>I need to. I need the lapsed, and I need
<v Speaker 2>it bad I need that voice in my ear, that
<v Speaker 2>voice that makes me laugh, think, reflect, the voice of reason,
<v Speaker 2>a steady hand in a not so steady world. So
<v Speaker 2>take my measly offerings and forgive me for not making
<v Speaker 2>the jump Center. It feels so good to give, so good.
<v Speaker 2>In fact, as someone who grew up in the deep
<v Speaker 2>Deep South, I can't tell you how many cans of
<v Speaker 2>delicious and vicious piannas sat on the shelves of my
<v Speaker 2>pantry growing up and ended up as a snack fishing
<v Speaker 2>hunting game with my dad playing church softball, shout out
<v Speaker 2>to City's team, and other similar times. Now that I'm
<v Speaker 2>living in Tennessee, just a few hours from everyone's favorite
<v Speaker 2>church and homeless mission, maybe I'll take a trip over
<v Speaker 2>to West Memphis and do the right thing for those
<v Speaker 2>in need this holiday season. And maybe they'll do the
<v Speaker 2>right thing and send me an Aurgraft picture. Thanks for
<v Speaker 2>the hours you put into this, Thanks for allowing me
<v Speaker 2>to do the right thing, and the support the real deal.
<v Speaker 2>If you're listening and you don't, you'll be glad you
<v Speaker 2>did do.
<v Speaker 4>The right thing, he writes as he bumps his pledge
<v Speaker 4>up to the twenty dollars executive producer tier Line.
<v Speaker 2>Damn fucking right, he does. Come on, folks, does more
<v Speaker 2>need to be said?
<v Speaker 8>No?
<v Speaker 2>Will Moore be said? Yes?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Rick S, thank you very much for your pledge.
<v Speaker 4>Welcome in the big Homie, Austin King Sliver writes. During
<v Speaker 4>the pandemic and for a year or so after, Alamo
<v Speaker 4>Draft House did convert many of their theaters into makeshift
<v Speaker 4>drive ins. We were talking about well, yeah, we're talking
<v Speaker 4>about this. Yeah, by having moving projectors out on outside
<v Speaker 4>and using the big outer walls of the building as screens,
<v Speaker 4>the one in my areas seem to do very well. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>just bring them back. I'll put them on walls. I
<v Speaker 4>don't give a fuck. Yeah, I mean I see projections
<v Speaker 4>now on buildings that are like four K. They have
<v Speaker 4>like this technology nowaday just have like images dancing on
<v Speaker 4>fucking stone walls.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So don't get me an excuse about infrastructure that you
<v Speaker 4>can put it on anything. Just put a big fuck it.
<v Speaker 4>I don't care a big edifice. Just bring back drive
<v Speaker 4>ins as soon as possible, and bring them back for
<v Speaker 4>closed circuit events, not just movies. Bring them back for this,
<v Speaker 4>you know, go see the super Bowl in a huge
<v Speaker 4>ass parking lot somewhere with the biggest screen in the county,
<v Speaker 4>in the state, and let people grill, and let people rejoice,
<v Speaker 4>and let people recreate, and let people try to recreate
<v Speaker 4>the experience of experiencing something live. Right, That's what I'm
<v Speaker 4>calling for, the return of closed circuit Are we ready?
<v Speaker 4>Can we handle it? As a people?
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great idea. Put it outdoors. Mm hm,
<v Speaker 2>you know, in warmer class and you know what, here's
<v Speaker 2>the thing. I mean, you know, well maybe maybe not,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But if you if you limit it
<v Speaker 2>to that, depending on the on on what it is,
<v Speaker 2>people will go.
<v Speaker 4>I think if you if you set up a if
<v Speaker 4>you set up a way to do it that's modular,
<v Speaker 4>that isn't a permanent, fixed screen somewhere that can't be uninstalled.
<v Speaker 4>It's a fucking home run because you only set up
<v Speaker 4>when there's an event and good enough climate to do it,
<v Speaker 4>and sometimes rain will fuck you up, you know. Doing
<v Speaker 4>the winter, I guess and really cold climates, maybe you
<v Speaker 4>could pull it off. Maybe people would be willing to,
<v Speaker 4>you know, bundle up. They certainly do it for tailgates
<v Speaker 4>during NFL season, right, But I'm talking big events, big
<v Speaker 4>boxing matches, concerts, you know, on a big screen, since
<v Speaker 4>money waiting to be made, and you just do it
<v Speaker 4>out in the middle of some field that no one's using,
<v Speaker 4>and you have you know, some kind of a just
<v Speaker 4>like you would erect the screen at raw they put
<v Speaker 4>the thing on the coat. Just go around the country
<v Speaker 4>and do it. Maybe fucking awesome, and you could franchise it,
<v Speaker 4>you know, like everyone can. It's not like a permanent thing,
<v Speaker 4>but every now and then when there's a hot event,
<v Speaker 4>you can make a good amount of money by being
<v Speaker 4>the guy in your metro area that knows how to
<v Speaker 4>set it up and you know, pays for the license
<v Speaker 4>to show it and pays for the license to be
<v Speaker 4>associated with, maybe like a national brand that's known for
<v Speaker 4>doing these things in a big way. I mean, you
<v Speaker 4>see the movie theaters try to do it to add revenue,
<v Speaker 4>you know. And I think it's cool to go see
<v Speaker 4>a concert in a movie theater or I've seen wrestling
<v Speaker 4>in m a pay per views in movie theaters and
<v Speaker 4>I think it's awesome. Yeah, but I think it's it's
<v Speaker 4>it's on a higher level if you can make it
<v Speaker 4>an outdoor party. Do you know what I mean yes,
<v Speaker 4>and everyone's got their phones so they can all bluetooth
<v Speaker 4>the audio. It's not like even even the audio infrastructure,
<v Speaker 4>which I know is a huge part of the drive
<v Speaker 4>in movie theater experience, you know, broadcasting it over the radio,
<v Speaker 4>you gott to be sitting in your car. Sometimes they
<v Speaker 4>get the speakers you know, actually installed into the ground
<v Speaker 4>and that's all pretty cool. But you don't even need
<v Speaker 4>that anymore.
<v Speaker 7>You know.
<v Speaker 4>Everyone can just have one bluetooth in if they want
<v Speaker 4>to hear the audio, which is great because it kind
<v Speaker 4>of sucks sometimes to go to a setting like that,
<v Speaker 4>like to watch a game in a bar, and if
<v Speaker 4>you want to hear the commentary, you can't hear it,
<v Speaker 4>you know, but fun, I mean, what are we waiting for?
<v Speaker 7>I know.
<v Speaker 4>Tim Lee, thank you very much for the increase in pledge.
<v Speaker 4>Deeply appreciated. Pete, thank you very much.
<v Speaker 2>We love it. Nico always longtime support, and he's bumping
<v Speaker 2>it up even more.
<v Speaker 4>It's incredible. David Quinn, thank you for your support. Marty
<v Speaker 4>f thank you very much for that robust pledge to
<v Speaker 4>your co chairs. Daniel writes in the two KWW Games,
<v Speaker 4>when new entrants join the Wargames match, they actually pull
<v Speaker 4>out weapons from under the ring and bring them heart
<v Speaker 4>of the built in entrance. You can believe that's a
<v Speaker 4>comment on one of our War Games Survivors Series twenty
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four live calls on Patreona. They just do
<v Speaker 4>it like it's part of the rules of war games
<v Speaker 4>that you have to bring weapons with you.
<v Speaker 2>Just awful. And you know it used to be like.
<v Speaker 4>Fortuitous, even though unfortunate. Once someone would come out of
<v Speaker 4>the war Games with an injury because the match was
<v Speaker 4>pretty you know, dangerous, and you hit each other pretty hard,
<v Speaker 4>and you know, Hawk got carried away and JJ Dillon
<v Speaker 4>broke his shoulder on the doomsday device in the first
<v Speaker 4>war Games and that's part of the legend of the match.
<v Speaker 4>But now we're in an era where all the war
<v Speaker 4>Games injuries are ones that people inflict on themselves because
<v Speaker 4>they can't stop jumping off the top of the cage.
<v Speaker 4>Both Jimmy Usso and Bronson Reid busted their ankles diving
<v Speaker 4>off the cage through tables and wargames, the injuries are
<v Speaker 4>happening to the people who are jumping themselves, who are
<v Speaker 4>doing it to themselves. They're not even booking war games
<v Speaker 4>to have guys come out of war games worse for wear.
<v Speaker 4>No one's selling that they can't move for weeks because
<v Speaker 4>people are actually getting hurt for things they voluntarily did
<v Speaker 4>in spots that do not belong in the war games
<v Speaker 4>that you can do every other month, joke, every other
<v Speaker 4>show of the year.
<v Speaker 2>You can do that shit wargames. I don't whatever. Edward Zeman,
<v Speaker 2>thank you for the increasing.
<v Speaker 4>Said a million times. It's it's a disaster this year.
<v Speaker 4>When you see those injuries, it's like, this is what
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to say. It is fucking stupid. This is
<v Speaker 4>the one match where you don't have to do that
<v Speaker 4>to yourself, but you already ruined it because now the crowd,
<v Speaker 4>the WW crowd thinks of war games is tables and
<v Speaker 4>chairs and shit and garbage cans.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know what, stop doing it. They could,
<v Speaker 2>but that's my point. It's like down in them condition
<v Speaker 2>the fans had a chance to.
<v Speaker 4>Start, had a chance to start in the right way,
<v Speaker 4>and they set themselves back. Dylan Mack and Tyre thanks
<v Speaker 4>for the pledge. Haull Cogan writes, to be fair Billy
<v Speaker 4>and Flair, I still to have some trouble accept in
<v Speaker 4>the family name being pronounced broccoli as in the fucking vegetable. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>that still gives me.
<v Speaker 2>Positive As Billie Eilish was saying.
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, he was a close observer, was Hull Cogin
<v Speaker 4>on Patreon. The Carnies were for our forever journey and
<v Speaker 4>when we hit the final episode, no time to die,
<v Speaker 4>He writes, I remember watching this for the first time
<v Speaker 4>and being surprised how emotional I was at the end.
<v Speaker 4>It's probably because on like other Bond movies, I knew
<v Speaker 4>I was saying goodbye. I'm feeling the same way as
<v Speaker 4>I start this final Bond episode of Under the Cinemat
<v Speaker 4>I would say, I'm feeling like a pussy. But it's
<v Speaker 4>a great man once set boss. What's wrong with a
<v Speaker 4>little pussy?
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with pussy?
<v Speaker 1>It's the Fan wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that knows
<v Speaker 1>the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.
<v Speaker 6>Just because we posted a new episode of The Lapsed
<v Speaker 6>Fan doesn't mean we are done with the campaign to
<v Speaker 6>take what is rightfully ours. If you haven't yet, vote
<v Speaker 6>for The Lapsed Fan to win the award for Wrestling
<v Speaker 6>Podcast of the Year. Click on this show's notes, follow
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<v Speaker 1>He's an lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carnaco
<v Speaker 1>and JP Sorrow.
<v Speaker 2>Hi co Chairs.
<v Speaker 4>This is Chris by the way high CoA Chairs. This
<v Speaker 4>is directed more to JP. Not sure if this one
<v Speaker 4>has come up yet or it's on the horizon already,
<v Speaker 4>but if you didn't know, now, I'm not going to
<v Speaker 4>call somebody that the legendary Hull Coogan replacement Tom McGee
<v Speaker 4>has a part in the movie Stone Cold.
<v Speaker 2>Fuck the fuck? Do you know the movie Stone Cold? No,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to look it up. I'm gonna look
<v Speaker 2>it up right now because it's Tom McGee. Fascinated. Remember
<v Speaker 2>we were.
<v Speaker 4>Walking behind Tom McGee in Las Vegas and he was
<v Speaker 4>vaguely he was rollerblading, and he was as thin as
<v Speaker 4>a toothpick.
<v Speaker 2>Right, he's like Batista.
<v Speaker 4>But they found him because that was the year that
<v Speaker 4>wwe like unearthed the match with Brett and put it
<v Speaker 4>in at the Unearthed that bullshit. They bought it because
<v Speaker 4>fucking Conrad and company found it and we're going to
<v Speaker 4>show it at the star Cast and have bretton Tom
<v Speaker 4>McGee do a panel discussion.
<v Speaker 2>It's with Brian Bosworth, Lance Henrickson, Lance Henrickson, and William Forsyth.
<v Speaker 2>A tough Alabama cup is blackmailed by the FBI into
<v Speaker 2>going undercover in a violent Mississippi biker gang. Yeah, well
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be good.
<v Speaker 4>Tom McGee say, I'm strategic about when I violate that
<v Speaker 4>GtC rule. He writes, hadn't watched this movie since I
<v Speaker 4>was a teenager and randomly circled back to it today
<v Speaker 4>upon which I saw a former bearer of the torch
<v Speaker 4>that never was, So I had to immediately had to
<v Speaker 4>share this with you the infinite overseas of the Solar system.
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully this is news and we'll inspire a future episode
<v Speaker 4>of Under the Cinema.
<v Speaker 2>And if not, there's a character named Mountain, does Tom
<v Speaker 2>McGee and.
<v Speaker 4>That's the kind of guy man. Well, we'll never have
<v Speaker 4>a real good reason to dive into him because he's
<v Speaker 4>not in any shows. He did Japan shows that will
<v Speaker 4>never cover.
<v Speaker 2>He's done. He did eight movies little TV shows as well,
<v Speaker 2>did The Alligator, to the Mutation, Dragon.
<v Speaker 4>Fight, Alligator to the New Batch.
<v Speaker 2>There it is Street Night. Oh god head for this
<v Speaker 2>to this movie Street Night. I don't have any idea
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck this movie is? But he plays a
<v Speaker 2>character named Baby Huey me we can go, We go
<v Speaker 2>over days about Baby Hughey. That was that was once.
<v Speaker 2>That was what's your nickname? Oh Ship, It's gonna go well,
<v Speaker 2>oh Man, Tom McGhee.
<v Speaker 4>Dan coming with an important one here because I didn't
<v Speaker 4>realize this was out there. Unfortunately for the Sid journey,
<v Speaker 4>there isn't too much to it. But Dan remembered that
<v Speaker 4>when WW did a special countdown episode Biggest Blunders. Countdown
<v Speaker 4>is like a recurring series they came up with for
<v Speaker 4>the network. The number ten entry once was about Sid
<v Speaker 4>having to say I have half the brain you do
<v Speaker 4>to Nation Hall, and he kind of remembers part of
<v Speaker 4>it being Sid trying to pass it off as something
<v Speaker 4>that Hall and Nash told him to say, as opposed
<v Speaker 4>to maybe this is where this comes from, this notion
<v Speaker 4>that he you know, in addition to the shoot interview
<v Speaker 4>clips he played where he said it was a scripted line.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that whole line of thought got new life because
<v Speaker 4>of this Countdown special. But thanks to what to Dan
<v Speaker 4>for pointing it out and in the spirit of following
<v Speaker 4>it up on a recent episode, which is always a
<v Speaker 4>very important part of what we do here on the
<v Speaker 4>on the feedback shows, Pull pulled said segment and uh,
<v Speaker 4>it's just a couple of minutes here we'll see what
<v Speaker 4>Sid does and doesn't say relative to the famous blunder he.
<v Speaker 5>Went on the mic.
<v Speaker 9>Good time for Psycho Sid.
<v Speaker 2>Remember they people to talk like that. Don't put your
<v Speaker 2>nose at my best desk. It's actually pretty funny. Then
<v Speaker 2>Sid woke out clips They come.
<v Speaker 1>Up with foot nine, six ' ten Jack huge.
<v Speaker 2>He is a frightful site for any opponent.
<v Speaker 9>His persona in Ashley Psycho.
<v Speaker 2>He's a psychotic, dangerous nuts.
<v Speaker 3>You are feared of me?
<v Speaker 7>Come you injected, sue a shot machine.
<v Speaker 5>I just don't even know if he knew what he
<v Speaker 5>was saying. And he just was saying it back.
<v Speaker 3>You are tough, but your day, but stop, stop.
<v Speaker 2>What you're done. You're mess with this voice. Man up.
<v Speaker 2>All I can say about see it. He was just dumb,
<v Speaker 2>sh just dumb, like a six handed monster.
<v Speaker 6>And I don't mean that in a mean way or
<v Speaker 6>a hard way, you know, Just like I said, some
<v Speaker 6>guys have this and some guys don't.
<v Speaker 9>I don't even know what he sounded like, because every
<v Speaker 9>time he talked, it would just tune out.
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those guys like you know. He was
<v Speaker 2>so physically.
<v Speaker 9>Because you talk, the more I'm laughing. If she ever
<v Speaker 9>sees this is probably gonna want to kill me. The
<v Speaker 9>blunder with Psycho Sid was handing him a microphone.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Sid ever spoke one.
<v Speaker 3>Time without messing up somewhere.
<v Speaker 5>How do you.
<v Speaker 7>Address those skeptics, Well, the skeptics and all the people
<v Speaker 7>have a little bill.
<v Speaker 9>Let me do this live, how sorry, anybody has any
<v Speaker 9>doubts would get their.
<v Speaker 2>Answer to night?
<v Speaker 9>Well, I buddy, I expect there's gonna be a barn burner.
<v Speaker 2>Shut up, listen.
<v Speaker 7>It was.
<v Speaker 1>Open front Paul of Nash and Nash was already dressed
<v Speaker 1>up the cid.
<v Speaker 7>Curly hair, the chin and everything and all that, and they.
<v Speaker 5>Were already in the ring making fun of it.
<v Speaker 2>Bur of fact. I'm just a complete idiot.
<v Speaker 5>And then Sude comes out and says, you can.
<v Speaker 7>Wear any Halloween costume you want to. But you know
<v Speaker 7>what I know, but you only half the man that
<v Speaker 7>I am, and I have half the brain.
<v Speaker 2>I have half the brain.
<v Speaker 3>I've got half the brain that you do.
<v Speaker 2>I asked him, wait, why did you say that? But
<v Speaker 2>he told me to say it. They tell him to
<v Speaker 2>say and he messed up his words. He didn't want
<v Speaker 2>just to make it. I can't and will not take
<v Speaker 2>credit for that, whatever sensation it is on the internet.
<v Speaker 2>I will not take credit for that. I can't and
<v Speaker 2>will not take credit for that, is what. That's all
<v Speaker 2>he says. That's that's the only thing. He's in nothing
<v Speaker 2>saying I'm obliged to take credit for that. So you
<v Speaker 2>won't you tell me what that means. I will not
<v Speaker 2>take credit for that. That means that he actually does
<v Speaker 2>take credit for that.
<v Speaker 4>He means blame, not credit, And I think that's part
<v Speaker 4>of what's throwing me off.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, he take credit.
<v Speaker 4>But it sounds like they snipped him out explaining that
<v Speaker 4>the whole thing. It sounds like they snipped him out
<v Speaker 4>saying he was handed it, and then they just have
<v Speaker 4>him saying I won't take credit for it because they
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to platform his his uh, his falsity. But
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was a great call by Dan there,
<v Speaker 4>and turns out there are a lot of funny other
<v Speaker 4>ones that I just didn't even know about or forgot
<v Speaker 4>that he said over the years. I mean, just if
<v Speaker 4>you just did a sizzle reel of his guttural noises
<v Speaker 4>you know on promos. Oh yeah, absolutely, just a fucking riot.
<v Speaker 2>What is he doing? He's out of his mind, he
<v Speaker 2>really is. I mean, he just I mean you just
<v Speaker 2>so when I was looking for that revolutionary thing, you know,
<v Speaker 2>when we were looking at the at that at that
<v Speaker 2>WW video of his, I was like every week he
<v Speaker 2>was out there in the middle of the ring just
<v Speaker 2>spouting nonsense for ten minutes at a time. He really was.
<v Speaker 4>It was unbelievable they let him do that. He's like
<v Speaker 4>the last guy on earth. Like that's exactly the situation
<v Speaker 4>you put him in if you want to bury him.
<v Speaker 2>You know, right or your company or company.
<v Speaker 4>It's been a while, but we last year brought you
<v Speaker 4>lapsed GPT is part of our Christmas gifts for the
<v Speaker 4>Solar System. One of the many things we hung on
<v Speaker 4>your tree. And of course we received those great GPT
<v Speaker 4>generated scripts from the Solar System that we read off
<v Speaker 4>as part of the unrapid Kaipo. The homeboy in Hawaii
<v Speaker 4>thought he would send us another one and we'll bring
<v Speaker 4>it to you now. He writes, Hey, Jack and JP,
<v Speaker 4>just be ready for ye who it's obvious you should
<v Speaker 4>be doing, which is, let's see just about everyone beside Sean. Yeah, okay, hey,
<v Speaker 4>Jack and JP, I created a dialogue on chat GPT
<v Speaker 4>that I think you guys would want to read. You
<v Speaker 4>can choose to read over the year if you want. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>Scene a backstage area. Jesse Ventura and Randy Savage are
<v Speaker 4>sitting at a table piled high with Mexican food.
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something, Savage. I've been sampling these
<v Speaker 2>chimney changas and enchiladas, and I gotta say, I guess
<v Speaker 2>they're very good, very authentic, not that I can indulge,
<v Speaker 2>Not that I can indulge too much. Chocolates, Chocolate's off
<v Speaker 2>the menu. Now, gotta watch the old ticker.
<v Speaker 5>You know.
<v Speaker 2>Who cares about your ticker?
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>I think here to listen to your food reviews. Jimmy
<v Speaker 3>Junger's hin geladas. Step into the much your madness? Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 3>who don't need Mexican food to get to the top
<v Speaker 3>digg it. Hey, calm down, Randy, It's just food. No
<v Speaker 3>need to snap into it like one of your slim gems.
<v Speaker 4>Enter hole Covid nervously looking over his shoulder every few seconds.
<v Speaker 4>Well you should know it's his paranoid to brackets and he's.
<v Speaker 2>Going, honestly need to say something, So we'll get back
<v Speaker 2>on track and dial in. I love this feeling. Man,
<v Speaker 2>someone's lurking around here waiting to ruin me up from behind.
<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, this, this double biz
<v Speaker 2>is no joke. You all got my back? Right?
<v Speaker 3>Who's got your back? But the mutial man, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about double bizz? How about you
<v Speaker 3>doubled down in your own business.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, entered the British Bulldog, looking early disheveled and carrying
<v Speaker 4>a suspicious pipe in his hand.
<v Speaker 2>Who this is? Oi?
<v Speaker 5>HOI?
<v Speaker 2>Where am I is?
<v Speaker 7>This?
<v Speaker 2>Is this the ring?
<v Speaker 5>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You look good? You look good any
<v Speaker 2>you know? Snacks bulldog? You look like you've never been
<v Speaker 2>You look like you've been through a war zone. What
<v Speaker 2>are you doing? Just taking the edge of me biting
<v Speaker 2>the pipe?
<v Speaker 3>Don't mind me to do this? What I'm talking about, brother,
<v Speaker 3>we're losing focus.
<v Speaker 2>We need to dial in. Where's the security?
<v Speaker 4>I swear someone's going ater sid vicious, laughing moniacally and
<v Speaker 4>flexing for no apparent reason.
<v Speaker 2>You all think you're the masters of the universe. But
<v Speaker 2>ah and the master and the ruler of the world.
<v Speaker 2>Gods range and sid vicious thrives in it.
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk the MISTERSA montrer mis the cream
<v Speaker 3>of the crop, and cream always raises to the top.
<v Speaker 4>Ooh yeah, to Shawn Michaels, strolling in nonchalantly with a
<v Speaker 4>cocky grin.
<v Speaker 2>HI had news for your Jack. No, no, you are
<v Speaker 2>the cream. I'm trying to get this. You're just a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of sour milk. I had news for you again, Jack,
<v Speaker 2>Nobody here is gonna take a backs, he told hbk.
<v Speaker 2>Hey watch the news, Shawan and light Nush. I had
<v Speaker 2>news for you. Jack, doesn't matter. I'm the show stopper
<v Speaker 2>the icon, and you're all just along for the rye.
<v Speaker 2>You too, Jack, and you Jack, especially you Jack. Stop
<v Speaker 2>calling me Jack father. We'll focus man at the end
<v Speaker 2>of the day.
<v Speaker 4>Vince McMahon bursts into the room, clapping his hands together
<v Speaker 4>and speaking in his over the top corporate tone.
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, people, let's synergize here and create
<v Speaker 2>a collaborative environment. So we need to realign our objectives
<v Speaker 2>and pivot to a win win solution. For all stakeholders.
<v Speaker 2>I'll stay calm. We'll circle back to the paranoia later,
<v Speaker 2>but for now, let's optimize the moment.
<v Speaker 4>Boss quickly, what is the rock who obtained a ton
<v Speaker 4>of shares in his recent ascent to the board of
<v Speaker 4>wwe have in common with the Big Show? What they're
<v Speaker 4>both stakeholders.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I should have held that go ahead. Sorry,
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like a double cross almost gone on.
<v Speaker 4>The Big Show suddenly appears out of nowhere with a
<v Speaker 4>cheeseburger in his handy. He casually rolls up Hogan for
<v Speaker 4>a three count. The referee, who also appears out of nowhere.
<v Speaker 4>It counts at one. At two three I.
<v Speaker 2>Believe actually called would have been one. Two. Ghost stops.
<v Speaker 2>Hord's done.
<v Speaker 4>Everyone in the room bursts in the laughter as hult
<v Speaker 4>Cogan scrambles to his feet, looking horrified.
<v Speaker 2>Hurrah, I knew it, I told you, brother, I told
<v Speaker 2>you all.
<v Speaker 4>Everyone continues laughing as Hogan disappears into the distance.
<v Speaker 2>Hi, I knew it was for you, Jack. That was hilarious.
<v Speaker 4>A lot of fun, A lot of fun. Thank you, Kaypo.
<v Speaker 4>Always great to hear from him. George writes to us,
<v Speaker 4>what a journey you have taken us through, and what
<v Speaker 4>a pleasure it has been to watch along with you lads.
<v Speaker 4>Being a huge Bond fan, I didn't even realize that
<v Speaker 4>most of the series qualified for that cinemat treatment. I
<v Speaker 4>had no idea about so many wrestling connections. Hopefully we
<v Speaker 4>can get those loose end films squared away, Bravo, chaps.
<v Speaker 2>It's the goal. That's the goal. You heard it here,
<v Speaker 2>first goal.
<v Speaker 4>When was Andrew Writ's Mitsuhara Matsunaga and Wang discussed on
<v Speaker 4>that cast under the cinemat. No time to die, of course,
<v Speaker 4>what's the problem, Zach writes, am I missing something or
<v Speaker 4>as an adult, being into slow pitch softball the equivalent
<v Speaker 4>of being into bumper bowling. It seems like something only
<v Speaker 4>for children to me. Sid Oh God, how about this?
<v Speaker 4>You should feel proud about this one. Robert Reynolds a
<v Speaker 4>couple of things he wrote on the end of the
<v Speaker 4>Bond Journey. One, I felt it at the end of
<v Speaker 4>the Funk Journey too. I'm not ready to go. And
<v Speaker 4>he also writes, Roger Moore has been dead for seven years.
<v Speaker 4>I've not seen a film he was in until this year.
<v Speaker 4>And yet when the newscaster announced his death, on this episode.
<v Speaker 4>I got a lump in my throat.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. That's service, boss, You've done service. Do what
<v Speaker 2>I can. That was what we want, you know, honestly,
<v Speaker 2>he and that was not a planned thing, Okay. I
<v Speaker 2>was not out there to celebrate Roger Moore. That was
<v Speaker 2>a thing that just happened because he's Roger Moore, right,
<v Speaker 2>Hall Cogin put it beautifully. Damn.
<v Speaker 4>I don't want this one to end, but I guess
<v Speaker 4>it's time to die. M then, right, So I'm sure
<v Speaker 4>you've looked into it. But in the next part, will
<v Speaker 4>you comment on the WW trying to hire Sidne too?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I included this.
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't find anything better about what you're talking about,
<v Speaker 4>he said. Pritchard has talked about it on his podcast.
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe WW would try to hire Sidne no
<v Speaker 4>too when he wasn't even mobile yet. His leg hadn't
<v Speaker 4>be fully healed as far as we can glean, and
<v Speaker 4>he just disappeared from this.
<v Speaker 2>Is better when he's not mobile. Maybe they try and
<v Speaker 2>do more with him.
<v Speaker 4>To poach him from like that WWA group where he
<v Speaker 4>did like a shot as a commissioner. Maybe that was
<v Speaker 4>the idea, But I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't find anything. So if anyone out there can
<v Speaker 4>in that loose end for us and find some instance
<v Speaker 4>where people talked about WW trying to recruit Sid in
<v Speaker 4>two thousand and two, at which point he basically disappeared
<v Speaker 4>from the scene for three years.
<v Speaker 2>I would love to hear it. Bruno.
<v Speaker 4>Yep, thanks for the for the cake and the support.
<v Speaker 4>In the three sixteen membership, Jerome puts out a fun thing.
<v Speaker 4>I was supposed to see Hogan and Sid at Spring
<v Speaker 4>Stampede two thousand before the big changeover in management, ended
<v Speaker 4>up seeing neither wrestle. It was my one and only
<v Speaker 4>WCW show. That's easy to forget. Before Russell and Bischoff
<v Speaker 4>came in, they were having they were going to reignite
<v Speaker 4>A Hogan. Remember we did that quick mention of the
<v Speaker 4>press conference angle where Hogan takes the spotlight. Yeah, that
<v Speaker 4>was building to the Spring Stampede main event that never
<v Speaker 4>was because Bishoff and Russo take over in early April
<v Speaker 4>on that Nitro and reshuffle the whole deck and Spring
<v Speaker 4>Stampede is the first pay per view under that new regime.
<v Speaker 2>That's wild, it is.
<v Speaker 4>Ah Ronaldi quotes from the SID Journey. Frank, I am
<v Speaker 4>disappointed that you got a ninety nine percent ahead instead
<v Speaker 4>of a one hundred and will never attend an event
<v Speaker 4>of yours, But I love you very much, okay. Steve
<v Speaker 4>writes there was meant to be a SID website, but
<v Speaker 4>Frank was left in charge of it. Yeah, we are
<v Speaker 4>the best, the best listeners. Chris writes SID as a
<v Speaker 4>character from a Coen Brothers would be Tex Cobbs, mounty
<v Speaker 4>hunter from Raising Arizona. Big badass with an awesome reputation,
<v Speaker 4>and he ends is running the most hilarious fashion possible.
<v Speaker 4>Do you know, uh, Raising Arizona.
<v Speaker 2>A little bit. I've seen him once or twice. I
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen it. It's not my favorite Cohen movie.
<v Speaker 4>Brian Blake, it's real Simpleton the TLF SID tribute, That's
<v Speaker 4>that's the truth. Read to stuff, Sam Ouie, thank you
<v Speaker 4>for the pledge, my friend. We appreciate it. Jeff Ruben,
<v Speaker 4>Welcome in to the Inner Circle. Richard Mann writes, how
<v Speaker 4>did Jack not bring up random task?
<v Speaker 2>Was Joe's son? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>Random task from Austin Powers, Yeah, which we spent some
<v Speaker 4>time naturally talking about the Bond Journey. Yeah, Joe Son
<v Speaker 4>was an early early proto era UFC fighter who's in
<v Speaker 4>the movie. He's kind of like an odd you know,
<v Speaker 4>the odd job take off character.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, random task.
<v Speaker 4>So he was he He fought in UFC and did
<v Speaker 4>some pro wrestling as well, and was a total pervert
<v Speaker 4>and ended up going to jail for like a gang
<v Speaker 4>rape or something.
<v Speaker 9>Wow.
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, you know, he's not it's not a
<v Speaker 4>bond character. So it's like a little far afield. But
<v Speaker 4>I should have brought it up. I accept my culpability
<v Speaker 4>if we ever do Austin Powers, know that I'm ready. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>I believe it there. I mean I knew, Yeah they're there.
<v Speaker 4>I think they believe they are. I don't know if
<v Speaker 4>all of them are.
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean they being Oh the Powers movies,
<v Speaker 2>Awesome Powers movie.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I also distinct. Remember at one point someone saying
<v Speaker 4>Austin Powers was the last movie Vince McMahon saw, or
<v Speaker 4>it was like his.
<v Speaker 2>Favorite at least we someone said that. I remember hearing that,
<v Speaker 2>and then we kind of always talking to moms gonna
<v Speaker 2>move his awesome Powers? Right, yeah, what what more can
<v Speaker 2>you see after that?
<v Speaker 3>Right?
<v Speaker 4>He said it was the greatest thing you'd ever said. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>if you want to know how Vince's mind works, Josh Burr,
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much for the pledge, my friend. We
<v Speaker 4>appreciate the cake and the support, and we know you're
<v Speaker 4>going to enjoy it. Roberta writes in Greeting's co Chairman,
<v Speaker 4>just wanted to give my two cents in the Millennium Man.
<v Speaker 4>In nineteen ninety nine, I was sixteen years old. I
<v Speaker 4>was a diehard WWF fan, hated the old folks home
<v Speaker 4>that was WCW. But Sid maybe change the channel whenever
<v Speaker 4>he was on. I knew it was fake, obviously, but
<v Speaker 4>I still wasn't really smartened up, and I just thought,
<v Speaker 4>no one else in WCW does a choke slam and
<v Speaker 4>a power bomb. Sid still rules. I would give anything
<v Speaker 4>to be able to watch wrestling that credulously.
<v Speaker 2>Again.
<v Speaker 4>Amen, Amen to that absolutely good point. Jeff writes, Okay,
<v Speaker 4>co chairs, just tell me how much a podcast if
<v Speaker 4>the Adventures lapsed Michael G. Wilson and lapsed Jesse would cost,
<v Speaker 4>so I can let the bank know these excessive charges
<v Speaker 4>to Patreon aren't fraudulent. The Adventures of Michael G. Wilson
<v Speaker 4>and Jesse the Body of Ventura. Hey, Michael, Michael, what
<v Speaker 4>you're doing over there?
<v Speaker 5>All right?
<v Speaker 2>I'm just well, I'm wondering what it is that I'm.
<v Speaker 4>Doing for cinemat Fans know Michael G. Wilson, but those
<v Speaker 4>who weren't him tell him.
<v Speaker 2>He is. He is the step son of Albert Kubby Brockley,
<v Speaker 2>the producer, creator, galactic overseer of the James Bond franchise
<v Speaker 2>from day one, and he came on and if he
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's just he looks better now, all right.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give him that. He looks better now.
<v Speaker 2>But when you see him in doing interviews in the
<v Speaker 2>late seventies early eighties for the Bond movies, he just
<v Speaker 2>he looks like someone who has done wrong, right, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, and he apparently knows martial arts, and he
<v Speaker 2>definitely looks like a guy who would know martial arts,
<v Speaker 2>just you know, and he would try to kill you. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>he would try to kill you.
<v Speaker 11>I think that's any talks like that, he just doesn't
<v Speaker 11>have much inflection or volume in his voice. He just
<v Speaker 11>kind of mumbles very softly.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he'd be totally calm and disconnected about it. That's
<v Speaker 2>the point.
<v Speaker 11>Sometimes sometimes I wonder to myself what it is that
<v Speaker 11>makes me angry, and then when I get angry, I.
<v Speaker 2>Killed people.
<v Speaker 4>He said, Sometimes I wonder to myself what it is
<v Speaker 4>that makes me angry? What does that even mean? Chuck writes,
<v Speaker 4>to be fair to Big Van Vader, his book was
<v Speaker 4>called Vader Time, and it was published by Walking on
<v Speaker 4>Hot Waffles. That's the name of the publisher, not the name.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, the book. However, ironically, Boss Vader often
<v Speaker 4>walking on hot waffles.
<v Speaker 2>That's very true, as he would put and also often
<v Speaker 2>eating hot waffles.
<v Speaker 4>Because he would put six hundred of them in toasting
<v Speaker 4>at a time and they'd all pop, and inevitably, in
<v Speaker 4>the rush to get his face on them, he'd step
<v Speaker 4>on some. Ryan James, thank you very much for the pledge.
<v Speaker 4>Welcome in, Brett Derezo. It's great to have your support, pal.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much. Jerome says, just get into the
<v Speaker 4>commentary on the Bond series over the British premieres of
<v Speaker 4>Bond films, and I move that we replaced the live
<v Speaker 4>calls of w W shows with live calls of British premiers.
<v Speaker 2>People love that shit. I loved it. That's one of
<v Speaker 2>my favorite parts of the Bond Journey me too. It's
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely hilarious. I mean, honestly, we when when when
<v Speaker 2>I when I found when I found footage of the
<v Speaker 2>of the first one that I was able to get,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, holy shit, this is just fantastic.
<v Speaker 4>And just the way you kick into that gear of like, ah, yes,
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, are you good at that. I like
<v Speaker 4>the idea of doing alternate commentary for like the Macy's
<v Speaker 4>Day Parade or something, you know, absolutely just being like
<v Speaker 4>just totally obnoxious about it. Cody Meek, thanks for the pledge.
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it.
<v Speaker 4>Christopher Marriing Rights reaching River of Darkness on my first
<v Speaker 4>pass through under of the Cinema. That's one of Sid's
<v Speaker 4>indie hits, right, the one with kurent Angle.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just after. I mean, that's he's his filmography is
<v Speaker 2>not long, no, not at all.
<v Speaker 4>That is one of them, and we covered that before
<v Speaker 4>we lionized Sid yep ye by my first pass th
<v Speaker 4>under the Cinemat just after finishing this episode of the
<v Speaker 4>Sid Tribute, his proof of lapsed Serendipity apparently said in
<v Speaker 4>the episode says, I never met Kurt Angle before this movie,
<v Speaker 4>and then later says, yes, I met him when Kurt
<v Speaker 4>was first starting in this business in the Memphis territory.
<v Speaker 2>It can't be both, Sid, When did you meet this sure?
<v Speaker 2>Do you sure came both?
<v Speaker 4>Suit Williams, Welcome back, my friend. Thanks for the pledge.
<v Speaker 4>We appreciated. Logan, Yes, give me that fucking cake. Matthew Muns, Yes,
<v Speaker 4>up that pledge. Parker Soul saying, yes, welcome into the
<v Speaker 4>inner circle. Aaron Horton keep going up? Why stop there?
<v Speaker 4>Derga points out when we're going through ninety nine Sid
<v Speaker 4>when he was in that Randy Savage stable. Remember we
<v Speaker 4>talked about that thing where Sid slap Tory Wilson. Pardon me,
<v Speaker 4>Randy Savage slap Tory Wilson a nitro one time when
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't scripted. Yes, Durga points out an important nuance
<v Speaker 4>about that. He says, this has probably been pointed out already,
<v Speaker 4>and it's a small thing. But the Tory Wilson's lap
<v Speaker 4>was that she was laughing at Randy's intensity, so he
<v Speaker 4>slapped her, not the other way around. I remembered it
<v Speaker 4>being Randy slapped her, and it was like such a
<v Speaker 4>fake slap that she couldn't help but laugh. But Randy
<v Speaker 4>slapped her because she was already laughing at how over
<v Speaker 4>the top he was being so right, that really makes
<v Speaker 4>it a little darker, you know what I mean, that
<v Speaker 4>we can't We can't take solace in the idea that
<v Speaker 4>the slap was k faved enough that she could laugh
<v Speaker 4>it off.
<v Speaker 2>No, in fact, she gots slapped for laughing right, that
<v Speaker 2>was out of his fucking mind, That's what happened. Just
<v Speaker 2>think of like the state of his upper body in
<v Speaker 2>that run, and the look on his face and the
<v Speaker 2>recedingness of his hairline and the leather of his cangle
<v Speaker 2>and then he can't get it up. I mean, what
<v Speaker 2>a story. Yes, indeed, maybe we have to do that journey.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. There's too much man, and there's a
<v Speaker 2>lot there. Oh, he's a fascinating one for sure.
<v Speaker 4>Alex writes, I'm not trying to be funny when I
<v Speaker 4>say I actually think the series finale of TLF is
<v Speaker 4>going to be the Hogan tribute show.
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know, Mike says, I mean, listen, depends
<v Speaker 2>if we're like on our way to the grave.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe, well, I don't see how. I don't see how
<v Speaker 4>we can't do a hog contribute until We're in the grave,
<v Speaker 4>because it was just it have to be thirty years long,
<v Speaker 4>it'd be so crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Why do they do this to us?
<v Speaker 4>Why do they make us think about these things? And
<v Speaker 4>that's what we do, Mike says. JP's memory of Great
<v Speaker 4>American Bash ninety nine and the many copies the video
<v Speaker 4>store had unlocked my own memory. I worked at Hollywood
<v Speaker 4>Video from two thousand two to two thousand and six,
<v Speaker 4>and we had a VHS copy of Great American Bash
<v Speaker 4>to rent and three used copies for sale. Even as
<v Speaker 4>a huge nineties wrestling fan, I knew better than to
<v Speaker 4>check out WCW from that era.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Man, such a so much excess inventory of those nineteen
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine WCW tapes.
<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. And again like that that weird. It
<v Speaker 2>was just that weird, you know. I didn't know anything
<v Speaker 2>about it, and so just seeing Nash and Savage just
<v Speaker 2>like this a weird thing. Like I'm thinking, this is
<v Speaker 2>not a thing I ever had any desire to see.
<v Speaker 4>And on those videotapes, we were wondering during the SID
<v Speaker 4>tribute what Mandalay Entertainment possibly could have in terms of
<v Speaker 4>connection because Mandalay entertainment displays on those WW home videotapes. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>and Tom ex Nacio always with the Intel, comes forward
<v Speaker 4>and says Mandalay was Peter Gouber's parachute when he got
<v Speaker 4>fired from sonywhile Jason Hervey worked for Mandalai. So when
<v Speaker 4>Sony bought licensing rights to distribute WW home video from Turner,
<v Speaker 4>which I guess that was something I was missing too.
<v Speaker 4>That Sony bought the rights from Turner in nineteen ninety nine,
<v Speaker 4>they put Hervey, who had broken the deal, and Mandalay,
<v Speaker 4>which was interested in sports rights, in charge. Gooper went
<v Speaker 4>on to be a minority owner of the Warriors, So
<v Speaker 4>there you go. That was almost like a baby step
<v Speaker 4>in the direction of Mandela Consis during buying WCW YEP,
<v Speaker 4>they were already in in the home video side of things.
<v Speaker 2>And Jason, because you got Hervey there right.
<v Speaker 4>He also writes a Tom, it's so funny. The three
<v Speaker 4>biggest licensing deals WW you ever made, Sony for home
<v Speaker 4>video rights, EA for video game rights, and toy Biz
<v Speaker 4>for action figure rights all began in January nineteen ninety nine,
<v Speaker 4>and by the end of ninety nine the business had
<v Speaker 4>fallen off a Cliff and all those rights were essentially worthless.
<v Speaker 4>Timed beautifully, guys, real, real, great job by your crack staff.
<v Speaker 4>William Wright's co chairman. I have lived in the Little Rock,
<v Speaker 4>Arkansas area for ten years now. I needed a job
<v Speaker 4>and got on as a server of the local Chili's.
<v Speaker 4>One of the managers there is gorgeous Gary Jung of
<v Speaker 4>Global Memphis in Dallas Fame. He once told me about
<v Speaker 4>some ring gear that he used for a while that
<v Speaker 4>was the goofy half trunk with one leg covered down
<v Speaker 4>to his boot. I think we talked about how unfortunate
<v Speaker 4>that ring gear is during an episode along the way.
<v Speaker 4>He said that the gear seemed cool at the time,
<v Speaker 4>but every time he got slammed or suplexed, his balls
<v Speaker 4>would pop out. Oh my god, So you got to
<v Speaker 4>consider that, Chris Man, thanks for the support, my friend.
<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the executive producer tier. Appreciate it very much.
<v Speaker 4>Vippin with this letter, dearest coach chairman, this message has
<v Speaker 4>meant more for Jacks though. I hold you both dearly
<v Speaker 4>for getting me through tough circumstances and being the wrestling
<v Speaker 4>friends that I need. This is a private message. Please
<v Speaker 4>do not share publicly. I just want to say thank you.
<v Speaker 4>We won't but I wanted to say thank you. That's
<v Speaker 4>all I can say. Kevin Hiknutt, thank you very much
<v Speaker 4>for the pledge. We appreciate the support. Blake says, just
<v Speaker 4>a thought, But I was thinking. And don't think there's
<v Speaker 4>ever been a year from a theatrical release perspective that
<v Speaker 4>was quite like nineteen eighty nine. Oh yeah, hell, I'll
<v Speaker 4>spare the list, but it's almost like it had to
<v Speaker 4>be destined from the gods. Something magical happened that year.
<v Speaker 4>Not sure if you can do anything with that, but
<v Speaker 4>some type of nineteen eighty nine cinema journey would fucking
<v Speaker 4>hit everyone right between the eyes. I think, just yeah,
<v Speaker 4>to go by year instead of by some.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I'd have to look. I mean again, I'd
<v Speaker 2>look to see. I mean I know that there are
<v Speaker 2>we'd listen. I mean, he talked about it, but we
<v Speaker 2>already do have one connection at least to the biggest
<v Speaker 2>movie of night Canadian nine, which was Batman uh in
<v Speaker 2>Tony Van Silva. Yes, so, I mean it's something to
<v Speaker 2>look at, you know, something to consider looking at what
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, like see what what movies are are
<v Speaker 2>available doing this to you for us. I mean it's
<v Speaker 2>always the same. I love it, Damiens, We've done and
<v Speaker 2>we've done some of them already. That's that's that's also
<v Speaker 2>kind of the the in a way of bummer, because
<v Speaker 2>we have done a significant amount from eighty nine the
<v Speaker 2>Indiana Jones, we did Ghostbusters two already, we did Gremlins.
<v Speaker 4>Having done eighty five Star Kid before the memorial tour.
<v Speaker 2>Right right, But there's oh yea, there's a lot in here,
<v Speaker 2>like to see the.
<v Speaker 4>Greatest year for wrestling too, not from a business receiapts standpoint,
<v Speaker 4>but just from in terms of the stuff both the
<v Speaker 4>big two are putting out.
<v Speaker 2>Of course. Yeah, I mean this was having more of
<v Speaker 2>like a big money here, like just a lot of
<v Speaker 2>movies came out that were huge. I don't feel the
<v Speaker 2>Dreams came out then too.
<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness, Damieney, Damien Thorn, thanks for the pledge,
<v Speaker 4>my friend. We appreciated. Ellis right. My mother has told
<v Speaker 4>me the story numerous times. When she went to see
<v Speaker 4>The Exorcist, she saw it twice in theaters that they
<v Speaker 4>gave out vomit bags to the movie. Oh my god,
<v Speaker 4>imagine the Exorcist, part of Scary Movie Season. Another fucking
<v Speaker 4>banner accomplishment this year under the cinematic fun. We go
<v Speaker 4>on and on about TLFX, but man UTC X, let
<v Speaker 4>me tell you, Yeah, there's a lot of action over
<v Speaker 4>there this year UTC four And for George, he writes
<v Speaker 4>as always good fun watching along UTC has become a
<v Speaker 4>Friday tradition thing for me.
<v Speaker 2>Now, how great is that? Love? It? It is so awesome?
<v Speaker 2>Makes me happy.
<v Speaker 4>Rick Rude is the subject line here from Brian. Hello,
<v Speaker 4>long time, first time in that ass, and I don't
<v Speaker 4>mind so remember you briefly touched on the rumors regarding
<v Speaker 4>Rick Rude and being castrated. Donky Tonk, Jake Morocco, and
<v Speaker 4>Petra have all said the same things. I always thought
<v Speaker 4>it was probably big Bs, because if the testicular cancer
<v Speaker 4>rumors were true. However, I did find a bit of
<v Speaker 4>an interesting post. I went to the Google obituary forms
<v Speaker 4>and searched Rude. There are around twenty different forms regarding
<v Speaker 4>his death. Four or five of them were from September
<v Speaker 4>of ninety nine, shortly after it was officially released in June.
<v Speaker 4>I opened all of them up and one had a
<v Speaker 4>comment from September seventh, nineteen ninety nine. Here's a quote
<v Speaker 4>from the September ninth, nineteen ninety nine Google forum. How
<v Speaker 4>come the article doesn't mention anything about his pecker falling
<v Speaker 4>off due to gangren after he shot so much viagra
<v Speaker 4>into it to get a heart on after losing his
<v Speaker 4>balls to testicular cancer. We can't believe I got it
<v Speaker 4>all in one sentence.
<v Speaker 2>How about that.
<v Speaker 4>I had heard that in a way, but I hadn't heard.
<v Speaker 4>I hadn't heard that he did it because he had
<v Speaker 4>lost his balls due to care answer.
<v Speaker 2>I just heard that.
<v Speaker 4>I just always heard the story that he was experimenting
<v Speaker 4>with it because he wanted to stay hard. I didn't
<v Speaker 4>know that there was like this kind of medical component
<v Speaker 4>to it.
<v Speaker 2>But let's put it this way.
<v Speaker 4>There's a reason there hasn't been, you know, a Dark
<v Speaker 4>Side on Rick Rude, or an any biography on Rick Rude,
<v Speaker 4>or anything approximating like a career documentary on that guy
<v Speaker 4>or a life in times, because you got to touch
<v Speaker 4>on that subject at the end, and I don't think
<v Speaker 4>the family wants to go anywhere near it.
<v Speaker 2>So embarrassing, you know, right.
<v Speaker 4>And sad too, because he was he was pretty much
<v Speaker 4>gearing for an ring comeback, you know, when he died,
<v Speaker 4>he was about to have another chapter of his career.
<v Speaker 4>He made that impactful jump to WCW from DX that
<v Speaker 4>famous ninety was on both shows.
<v Speaker 2>Really sad. Yes, so that's that.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for passing it along. Andrew writes Sid's Vicious viennas.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm listening to the latest SID Tribute part six
<v Speaker 4>and there was a shout out to Andrew who purchased
<v Speaker 4>sid Vienna shirt. My name is Andrew, Yes, that's you.
<v Speaker 4>I just want to say you're the man. I recently
<v Speaker 4>purchased the Sid's Vicious Vienna shirt. Now, I don't know
<v Speaker 4>if it's me you're talking about on the show or
<v Speaker 4>if it's some other Andrew who got in touch with
<v Speaker 4>you after buying the shirt, but I thought y'all might
<v Speaker 4>get a kick. And of why I got the shirt recently,
<v Speaker 4>my wife and I made a trip to Canada to
<v Speaker 4>see a family. A fifteen hour drive for us, so
<v Speaker 4>I always load up on the podcast to make the
<v Speaker 4>drive easier. For context, my wife has heard the cast before,
<v Speaker 4>and let's just say she doesn't get it. Is this
<v Speaker 4>the email boss that inspired the lapsed wife t shirt.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's the same one. Okay, I might have
<v Speaker 4>just put it in this folder. Andrew, thanks again. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>we passed that along. It was just too money when
<v Speaker 4>it happened, and it was relevant to the sid journey,
<v Speaker 4>so we read it there. But I got lapsed. Wife
<v Speaker 4>moving a couple of units this Christmas season. Oh fuck yeah,
<v Speaker 4>very nice to say, William Murphy, thanks for bumping up
<v Speaker 4>the pledge. We appreciate the cake and the support mister
<v Speaker 4>Rick bell Bottom's rights. I have often nearly prolapsed with
<v Speaker 4>laughter with your content, and I've always wanted to not
<v Speaker 4>be broken enough to not subscribe. However, I found that
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't enjoy the CID episodes. I didn't think he
<v Speaker 4>was cold enough to be Frank Frank. As for the
<v Speaker 4>Vienna sausages, the first State WrestleMania's the first five Survivor series,
<v Speaker 4>Summer Slam eighty one to ninety one, and one or
<v Speaker 4>two row rumbles, you literally had a six foot eight
<v Speaker 4>hot dog and trunks for ages. I subscribe to say
<v Speaker 4>thanks for your content, but plead with you all stop
<v Speaker 4>wasting time and to please just get on with making
<v Speaker 4>the Randy Savage biopic. Everyone keeps talking about Savage, and
<v Speaker 4>it's not like something recently happened with him that would
<v Speaker 4>make people want it. It's just it's too serendipitous.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think I'm gonna have to answer
<v Speaker 2>that weight not have to think about that. But I
<v Speaker 2>mean it's interesting. I mean, I guess, I guess because
<v Speaker 2>out of all of the of the rest of us
<v Speaker 2>who've died, I mean, you know, he's He's prime beef
<v Speaker 2>of that totally, yeah, of that era.
<v Speaker 4>If Sid is as lapsed as it gets, then Randy's
<v Speaker 4>even a higher level, you know, right, Sid has that
<v Speaker 4>quality of somebody that you wouldn't at first blush think
<v Speaker 4>to do a tribute for. And that's really where we
<v Speaker 4>can do damage. Whereas Savage. Everyone knows Brandy Savage is
<v Speaker 4>worth saving and worth you know, examining.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, especially because when you consider he you know,
<v Speaker 2>he died well before we even yes conceive of the show.
<v Speaker 4>Right, so we didn't have the chance to decide to
<v Speaker 4>do a tribute show about him. We weren't even in
<v Speaker 4>that mode yet. Unbelievable, unbelievable. I don't know, it might
<v Speaker 4>be something, there might be an initiative. I'm in a
<v Speaker 4>New Year's resolution kind of frame of mind. That's what's
<v Speaker 4>always so dangerous about the holidays is you get your
<v Speaker 4>time off, you know, and you start like fucking around
<v Speaker 4>and your mind starts wandering and you start getting ambitious,
<v Speaker 4>and you kind of lose it gets a little You
<v Speaker 4>get a little loss of perspective for how little time
<v Speaker 4>there actually is in a day in a week when
<v Speaker 4>things ramp back up, so you like overload all these ambitions,
<v Speaker 4>which is a good thing.
<v Speaker 2>It's healthy.
<v Speaker 4>And we love the solar system pointing us in a
<v Speaker 4>direction that always makes it easier when people ask for
<v Speaker 4>us to do it instead of us doing it hoping
<v Speaker 4>people accept it, which we know they will. But yes,
<v Speaker 4>this is one too many. This is one too many
<v Speaker 4>random mentions of savage when we did the sid thing.
<v Speaker 4>Uh oh, I'd subscribe to say thanks your content. Oops,
<v Speaker 4>I almost forgot the main reason for my subscription, He writes,
<v Speaker 4>to put it out there that the third annual Survivor
<v Speaker 4>series is begging for the lapsed treatment. For sure, It's true.
<v Speaker 4>Still my favorite pay per view. I'm happy to feel
<v Speaker 4>happy and ashamed and equal measures. Well, thank you for that.
<v Speaker 4>I always open to the entreaties and thanks for the
<v Speaker 4>cake as well. Here is Abibe from Toronto and we're
<v Speaker 4>going to pass this on to the boss. Abebe's a
<v Speaker 4>long time supporter. Always great to hear from one of
<v Speaker 4>the more astute I would say, members of the Solar system.
<v Speaker 2>What does he have for us this time? The laps
<v Speaker 2>fan is my favorite piece of media, and I constantly
<v Speaker 2>go back to it over and over again. I have
<v Speaker 2>a hard time explaining this even to myself, as I
<v Speaker 2>honestly don't have any connection to wrestling anymore. This is
<v Speaker 2>not a work. But after buying my old wrestling buddy
<v Speaker 2>burying my old wrestling buddy a few months ago, it
<v Speaker 2>has become clear to me why this podcast has that
<v Speaker 2>quot quote warm blanket feeling short. My best friend in
<v Speaker 2>high school in middle school was a huge wrestling fanatic.
<v Speaker 2>He would tape every raw. I was not allowed to
<v Speaker 2>watch wrestling because Adnan al Casey Fakeness offended my father
<v Speaker 2>so deeply, so I would rely on his tapes every
<v Speaker 2>weekend and we would obsess over every angle. For whatever reason,
<v Speaker 2>we thought the Rock was an Arab and so he
<v Speaker 2>became a favorite even before he was cool. Honestly, back
<v Speaker 2>then with that haircut, he did look like a Saudi
<v Speaker 2>or a Kuwait. That's amazing. I never thought of that.
<v Speaker 2>Really funny. We even tried to get buff and ripped
<v Speaker 2>like our favorite wrestlers, although we were smart enough to
<v Speaker 2>have other career goals unlike the retarded Bell brothers. His
<v Speaker 2>words says direct yet Yeah. Anyway, those were some of
<v Speaker 2>the best years of my life, even though we both
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get women to touch us even if our life
<v Speaker 2>depended on it. But unfortunately we grew up. I went
<v Speaker 2>away to university. He became a dentist and a prompt
<v Speaker 2>quote prominent figure in the community mosque. So even the
<v Speaker 2>old wrestling tapes were taped over to delete all evidence
<v Speaker 2>of wrestling fandom, and we lost touch up until about
<v Speaker 2>a year ago. I got a text from him that
<v Speaker 2>he had terminal cancer and that he was that he's
<v Speaker 2>going to fight. He is going to inject himself a
<v Speaker 2>lethal dose of poison. He was talking about chemotherapy. We
<v Speaker 2>both had a good laugh about about that ridiculous McMahon
<v Speaker 2>and w O promo. I kept in touch with him
<v Speaker 2>this past year. He passed around from very various unsuccessful
<v Speaker 2>treatments and began to lose hope and knew he was
<v Speaker 2>reaching the end. A few days before he passed, he
<v Speaker 2>mentioned to me those days we had spent watching raw
<v Speaker 2>and eating his mom's home cooked meals were his favorite
<v Speaker 2>days and that he and that was the last conversation
<v Speaker 2>I had with him before he died. Wow, so now
<v Speaker 2>my fan with the lapse fan makes a bit more sense.
<v Speaker 2>It's two friends obsessing and making fun of a dumb
<v Speaker 2>product that they once enjoyed. The wrestling fandom lapses with
<v Speaker 2>the friends and the good time staying. You don't need
<v Speaker 2>to read this email on air. Just wanted to place
<v Speaker 2>the share, and quite frankly, the funeral was not the
<v Speaker 2>best place to do it. I talked about our share
<v Speaker 2>wrestling fan in that environment, I would have been judged harshly,
<v Speaker 2>and unlike him, I'm still alive and have to live
<v Speaker 2>with the judgment and shame. Wow. That's a hell of
<v Speaker 2>a letter. Yeah it is, and he's right.
<v Speaker 4>We don't set out to be that, but we can
<v Speaker 4>certainly serve that purpose for folks who needs the sin. Hitman,
<v Speaker 4>thanks for bumping all the way up to that moat tier.
<v Speaker 4>It's time to shout out the Moat Tier. It's been
<v Speaker 4>too long. Look, it's not for everybody, yep, but it
<v Speaker 4>is our richest, highest level of participation in support, and
<v Speaker 4>it is a bunch of people that are the envy
<v Speaker 4>of any podcast in the world that they would put
<v Speaker 4>this cake on a monthly basis really for support. I mean,
<v Speaker 4>there are a lot of extra goodies we try to
<v Speaker 4>throw to the Moat Tier, but with the exception of
<v Speaker 4>Wrestle Mamia, which of course is more than worth it,
<v Speaker 4>it's really truly a spirit of like, no, I want
<v Speaker 4>to I want to show the highest level of support
<v Speaker 4>because you keep doing what you're doing, not because there's
<v Speaker 4>something directly in it for me. Just the existence of
<v Speaker 4>the podcast is what's in it for me, and so
<v Speaker 4>as is only appropriate, here's the honor roll of folks
<v Speaker 4>that are way way high up in that solar system
<v Speaker 4>in the Moat Tier. Abel Edier, Adam Graver, ad x three,
<v Speaker 4>Aiden Kevelhan, Alan Smith, Andrew Austin, King Sliver, Brian up, Blake, Downing,
<v Speaker 4>Brad Brandon Kaiser, Brendan Moe, Brian Blake, Brian Heinz, Chris Awsome,
<v Speaker 4>Mike Cogan, Chris Harris, Christopher Creva, Chuck Piacio, cold Stone,
<v Speaker 4>Steve Austin, Daniel David camon Ester, David Style, Dennis Dominic, Carrera, Hult,
<v Speaker 4>Cogan Intern, Matt James, Irwin, John Francis, Justin Davenport, Kevin Mills,
<v Speaker 4>Christopher Craig, Mark Daper, Martin Ferguson, Marty Longhurst, Mike Hornecker
<v Speaker 4>and Monty Davis Junior and Nathan and Pedro Rios and
<v Speaker 4>Pete Cosey and Peter Rustling and Robert Holtzammer and Ryan
<v Speaker 4>Ball and Sam Fairbanks and Scott Michael Ferry and Sean
<v Speaker 4>mcgherren Shane and Stephen Stephen Laird and Thomas Atanacio and
<v Speaker 4>Tom and Zach Medras and Zach Geller as the Homie
<v Speaker 4>ZV as well as Zach unbelievable.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.
<v Speaker 4>That that list is still is so long and solid
<v Speaker 4>and consistent, and it's a gift, it really is. Morgan Brown,
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much for your support.
<v Speaker 2>Mister ten ninety nine, just a guy rights.
<v Speaker 4>Is there a podcast out there that would spend two
<v Speaker 4>months on the life and career of Cidy Uty? Absolutely not?
<v Speaker 4>Why because on their best day they're not as good
<v Speaker 4>as TLF mm hm. Adam writes, I lost it. Adam writes,
<v Speaker 4>the curtain lifts on the empty stage. The gargantuan, austere,
<v Speaker 4>blonde haired giant stands alone. The spotlight shines on a
<v Speaker 4>giant stack of Vienna sausages. Sid then breaks into a
<v Speaker 4>rendition of good night by someone from the music Man.
<v Speaker 4>After he's finished, he disappears. The curtain then drops as
<v Speaker 4>suddenly and devastatingly as a giant nineteen ninety two West
<v Speaker 4>Memphis power bomb and scene.
<v Speaker 2>Fart.
<v Speaker 4>Donovan, thank you very much for your support. Andrew Shustek,
<v Speaker 4>thanks for the gay Craig writes on cinemat I come
<v Speaker 4>to you, a humble member of the Solar system with
<v Speaker 4>an offering. After Boss giving that full fucking lapse treatment
<v Speaker 4>to Alice, Sweet Alice, I've needed to help to contribute
<v Speaker 4>again with either a classic movie or classic wrestler. Honestly,
<v Speaker 4>in some ways, I'm shocked you haven't gotten to this
<v Speaker 4>one yet. But then again, some of the language of
<v Speaker 4>the movie can also easily dismay you, or even more morbidly,
<v Speaker 4>I could see JP holding this one back for when
<v Speaker 4>the director of the movie passes away. But gentlemen, Alex
<v Speaker 4>Carris mongo blazing fucking saddle.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Tom a list YEP, can confirm?
<v Speaker 7>Boss?
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're saying? Can confirm?
<v Speaker 4>Andrew writes on cinemat Ah, the familiar warmth of a
<v Speaker 4>film driving locals mad enough that it makes the papers.
<v Speaker 2>Ah not a good one. It's my favorite thing. Whenever
<v Speaker 2>that happens, it just makes me happy.
<v Speaker 4>Triple Biz, thanks for the six support. We appreciate that
<v Speaker 4>Executive producer level tier pledge. Chris Madonno same to you,
<v Speaker 4>my friend. There's Habib coming in strong. Stephen Prescott, thank
<v Speaker 4>you very much for the pledge. Rich Molton, thanks for
<v Speaker 4>bumping up the support. Daniel and a point went all
<v Speaker 4>the way up to the moat tier and thus is
<v Speaker 4>goateed in our eyes. Ben Buck, thank you very much
<v Speaker 4>for the cake. Andrew writes bumped up to the moat
<v Speaker 4>tier for the holiday season and wanted to send a
<v Speaker 4>shout out for how great UTC is. Took me about
<v Speaker 4>eighteen months to work my way through the archives and
<v Speaker 4>it stands alone as an incredible podcast, the perfect mix
<v Speaker 4>of hilarious and informative on a subject I probably never
<v Speaker 4>would have dealt did into independently. He really hits it
<v Speaker 4>on the nose there, love it. I love that all well.
<v Speaker 4>An obscene increase in his monthly pledge is deeply appreciate
<v Speaker 4>it up there north of the Border, Thank you, Andrew,
<v Speaker 4>Alex Conley, thank you very much for the pledge. Doctor
<v Speaker 4>Wiz Pip, longtime supporter. Thanks for the cake. William Murphy,
<v Speaker 4>great to see your support. Thank you, Sean. Thanks for
<v Speaker 4>the increased vote of support and confidence. Louis Perez, longtime
<v Speaker 4>supporter in the saddle again, thanks for the cake. Ion Knight,
<v Speaker 4>thank you for the support. My friend Greg Armstrong, we
<v Speaker 4>welcome you into the Solar System Inner Circle. Dominios, thank
<v Speaker 4>you very much for your pledge of support. Macho Mania,
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much for the cake. This one goes
<v Speaker 4>out to Rick Pepe who jumped into the UTC Tire
<v Speaker 4>executive producer. He is how about real Yoshi Hashi coming
<v Speaker 4>in strong in joining the Solar System.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 4>John Zegler, longtime supporter, bumped up the pledge recently. Dav
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much for the cake. Chris says, I'm
<v Speaker 4>going to make this real simple. I had to pull
<v Speaker 4>over while I was driving so there would be not
<v Speaker 4>a crash hearing boss as Sid say, what do you
<v Speaker 4>mean my prerogative? Don't you sit there and use your
<v Speaker 4>fucking Connecticut words with me. I have yet to make
<v Speaker 4>it back on the road, Christopher reports. Zach writes, I
<v Speaker 4>can a test to a tremendous boss's enthusiasm on my
<v Speaker 4>Hogan Giant cameo, both based on how great it is
<v Speaker 4>and the fact he completed their quest and record time.
<v Speaker 2>This was I was part of it. I couldn't believe
<v Speaker 2>the work the boss did. I was fucking funny, he said, No,
<v Speaker 2>I mean that one was like, you know, that one
<v Speaker 2>was just I was like, holy shit, that I just
<v Speaker 2>you know, I often, if I, if I'm being completely honest,
<v Speaker 2>usually the ones that I uh, that I either take
<v Speaker 2>my time on or that i've kind of apologize have
<v Speaker 2>let slip is because I don't have an immediate inspiration,
<v Speaker 2>right and so I'm which usually you know, ends up
<v Speaker 2>just me winging it and it's fine. It's usually you know,
<v Speaker 2>they're always they're always satisfied. We never get any complaints,
<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. And but that one I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I needed to do it. I needed to do it
<v Speaker 2>right away.
<v Speaker 4>We'll know that Zach ordered it for a Halloween treat
<v Speaker 4>on Monday, and he got it so fast it was
<v Speaker 4>painful holding on listening to it, holding off listening to
<v Speaker 4>it for several days. Ah Steve King, thank you very
<v Speaker 4>much for the increase in pledge.
<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it. Daniel James Dunn, thank you for the increase.
<v Speaker 2>It's great.
<v Speaker 4>Rosalie Kane. Great to see you in the Solar System.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for the money. Conrad Benjamin, we love it. Cody Davis,
<v Speaker 4>we love it. Brian Condon, we love it all this support.
<v Speaker 4>Adam says, sid, what do you think about people who
<v Speaker 4>hid in the link of that fucking cast? They don't
<v Speaker 4>know shit, cry baby. This is Scott Michael Ferry, one
<v Speaker 4>of the big cinophiles on the Solar System, commenting, oh yes,
<v Speaker 4>on our coverage of The Exorcis on Scory Movie Season.
<v Speaker 4>He writes, are you sure this episode dropped on Halloween?
<v Speaker 4>Because it sure feels like Christmas?
<v Speaker 3>To me?
<v Speaker 4>This is an all time film for me and I
<v Speaker 4>could not have been more excited to see that episode
<v Speaker 4>length was longer than my fucking work day, Absolutely worth
<v Speaker 4>the weight of a full year. This is also a
<v Speaker 4>bit of a loose connection but up here in the
<v Speaker 4>Northeast there was a wrestling faction named Team Pazzuzu who
<v Speaker 4>would wear that oh no shit, famous shot at the
<v Speaker 4>Pazuzu face from the film on their knee pads and shirts,
<v Speaker 4>even if the face was altered so you could make
<v Speaker 4>out the words suck me, oh my god. The most
<v Speaker 4>successful guys from Pazzuzu ended up being Santana and or tees,
<v Speaker 4>who are proud and powerful in aw Or were what.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know? That was a connection You didn't even
<v Speaker 2>know to point now, I had no clue. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>even I didn't that didn't, that did not. It's kind
<v Speaker 2>of funny that did not come across the trends across
<v Speaker 2>the yeah at all. That never even never even came
<v Speaker 2>up right call out. That's what makes the Solar system
<v Speaker 2>so great, Ronnie Cathy, thanks for the support. Owen writes,
<v Speaker 2>just up to the EP here for the Exor System.
<v Speaker 2>Let's fucking go. That's gonna feel good, boss. When yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you bring a movie that brings someone across the finish line, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 2>that is always that's it. You know, if I can,
<v Speaker 2>if I can, I I I I do, I do
<v Speaker 2>think that there is some value in in the show.
<v Speaker 2>I think it actually, I think it touches a unique
<v Speaker 2>aspect of the wrestling business. But I know that it's
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's it can be a little hefty
<v Speaker 2>on the wallet, and I know, but I know that
<v Speaker 2>once you cross over, you're gonna get it. Yeah, you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna understand. And you know, there's a movie out there
<v Speaker 2>for everybody to make that jump.
<v Speaker 4>Especially now considering how robust the archive is at this point. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>something's in there, something's in there for you. Vernon Wright's on.
<v Speaker 2>The one hundred and thirty six movies as a video, Yes, And.
<v Speaker 4>Wrestle Mommy keeps going, Oh, I mean yeah, everyone got
<v Speaker 4>a taste when Mama Sorrow set in for the unwrapping
<v Speaker 4>on the free feed. But if you're wondering what Wrestle
<v Speaker 4>Mommy is like, now you know. And Vernon writes my
<v Speaker 4>favorite Mama Sorrow bit moarning JP about the danger of wrestling.
<v Speaker 4>You have a daughter, better never do one of those matches.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Also, oh, I love that. Also when she says colored,
<v Speaker 2>JP replied bleached. I don't know why I was dying
<v Speaker 2>at that. Oh, Mama, I'm Marianne Mama sorrow.
<v Speaker 4>Does that dog tell you when he wants to go out?
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, JP, No, Mama sorrow. Okay, he's just
<v Speaker 4>looking for the sun. Her wholesomeness, he says, is untouched.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's you know, well, yeah, go for it. It's
<v Speaker 2>it's a So for some reason, she just has this
<v Speaker 2>weird fear and instinct that if the dog is doing
<v Speaker 2>anything but sleeping, it must need to go to the bathroom. Ah,
<v Speaker 2>it must need to go out. I'm like, no, this
<v Speaker 2>dog goes out three times a day, all right, it knows,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's very I wouldn't say, I'm not
<v Speaker 2>going to say that that he is one hundred percent
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, a house broken. But I'm gonna say
<v Speaker 2>he is like eighty percent house broken, all right, And
<v Speaker 2>he knows that we walk three times a day, and
<v Speaker 2>so he's not you know, it's because he's walking around,
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean he's a fucking bathroom. Now, Now you don't
<v Speaker 2>find yourself having to repeat that, do you? Oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>over and over every time every time they come here,
<v Speaker 2>every time I every time I bring the dog up
<v Speaker 2>to their house, it's the same thing. Does he need
<v Speaker 2>to go out? Is that poop.
<v Speaker 4>H No, Mom, wasn't you worried during the unwrappening that
<v Speaker 4>there was dog shit somewhere?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It was like it wasn't dog shit, it was
<v Speaker 2>something else. No, it was I think it was like
<v Speaker 2>tree chocolate, yes, trets, Yeah, chocolate. Good thing to eat
<v Speaker 2>that Dan the Man Noble pumping up that pledge. You
<v Speaker 2>can never forget Dan Man. He's out there, he's he's uh,
<v Speaker 2>he's a fucking trooper. He sends me messages on Instagram
<v Speaker 2>which cracked me up.
<v Speaker 4>Ah, bran Erickson jumping up to the moat tier quite recently.
<v Speaker 4>We thank you very much for that, my friend, a
<v Speaker 4>new world cricket.
<v Speaker 5>What do you know?
<v Speaker 4>New World order cricket pledging to the coach heres. How
<v Speaker 4>about Luke from Manchester who heard us talking about blobby
<v Speaker 4>because there was concerned about a blobby push?
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yeah remember that it was a while ago.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hi, chaps, just thought i'd share on listening to
<v Speaker 4>Indiana Jones and the last Crusade episode.
<v Speaker 2>Of UTC, which is episode fifty six, so he's in
<v Speaker 2>the archives. That's a while ago.
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have a wonderful time watching a clip of
<v Speaker 4>Pat wrote to take on the British legend that is
<v Speaker 4>mister Blobby. You even posed the question how many kids
<v Speaker 4>had nightmares of mister Blobby to answer a question. He
<v Speaker 4>was a British icon. He was a hero of mine
<v Speaker 4>as a small child, and I even had a Mister
<v Speaker 4>Blobby teddy growing up. I still have this original teddy today,
<v Speaker 4>thirty years later, and I have the fondest memories of him,
<v Speaker 4>including owning multiple Mister Blobby VHS tapes highlighting his numerous
<v Speaker 4>hilarious entics. I realized this is over two years after
<v Speaker 4>this episode dropped, but I couldn't resist in answering the
<v Speaker 4>call of the co chairs and sharing with you how
<v Speaker 4>loved he really was. Never in my wildest dreams that
<v Speaker 4>I think I would ever hear Lapstogan nervously utter the
<v Speaker 4>words mister Blobby.
<v Speaker 2>Push dude, what do you do? Blobby? What amazing brother?
<v Speaker 4>Your loyally p patron Luke from Manchester. Unbelievable. This blobby
<v Speaker 4>thing has a hold on these Brits.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it. I love it. Okay.
<v Speaker 7>Uh.
<v Speaker 4>This great member of the Solar system always changes its name,
<v Speaker 4>so I never really know what to call him. It's
<v Speaker 4>it's Cliff okay, one time, he's going by County Rhodes.
<v Speaker 4>He wrote, talk about Wrestle Mamia. I watched A Vivar's
<v Speaker 4>series ninety six on pay per view at my grandmother's house,
<v Speaker 4>and on the way home, I kept trying to justify
<v Speaker 4>how sid won the idol in My mom, who didn't
<v Speaker 4>give a fuck about wrestling, kept exclaiming, but he cheated,
<v Speaker 4>he cheated.
<v Speaker 2>That is the greatest thing. That's it. That's it. There.
<v Speaker 2>There there is such a you know, there's there's a
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say for every mom, but but for
<v Speaker 2>for a good a good number of moms. There is
<v Speaker 2>this this this kind of a threshold that they that
<v Speaker 2>they cross and they they start you know, they they're
<v Speaker 2>they're there. They get sucked into the to the story
<v Speaker 2>and the character of it like it like a kid does,
<v Speaker 2>and they you know, they start reacting. You know, if
<v Speaker 2>you thought, if you think about these things like no,
<v Speaker 2>like none of the stuff really makes sense. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about it, the idea that well, someone throws
<v Speaker 2>you in the ropes, why do you go with it?
<v Speaker 2>Why do you why do you feel the need to
<v Speaker 2>run like you're not you know, I could if if
<v Speaker 2>someone threw me into the ropes and I and I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to stop on staff. Absolutely, you know, but you
<v Speaker 2>get you get sucked into it they I mean, i'd
<v Speaker 2>imagine also because the wrestlers do a very good job
<v Speaker 2>at making it seem like it's actually happening. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>actually a great point, Like you're not going to catch
<v Speaker 2>the mom getting sucked in to a match between guys
<v Speaker 2>who suck like. That's a tribute to the guys that
<v Speaker 2>somebody who knows they're not into it and thinks it's
<v Speaker 2>bullshit ends up getting kind of mad when a guy
<v Speaker 2>cheats to win, right right, that means you're doing it well. Yep.
<v Speaker 4>Tony Van Silva talked about that, and I thought a
<v Speaker 4>really a refreshing way. He was like, you know, yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>everybody knows to put on, but it's not about that.
<v Speaker 4>It's about allowing the person's emotions next to you to
<v Speaker 4>bleed into you so you can have this experience. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>so you can, you can share in the emotion in
<v Speaker 4>the room, and no matter what caused it and the
<v Speaker 4>authenticity of what caused it, that is that's less important
<v Speaker 4>than the experience of sharing and everyone cheering or everyone
<v Speaker 4>booing for something that's intoxicating. Whether what you're cheering or
<v Speaker 4>booing is actual conflict or not is immaterial, which I
<v Speaker 4>thought was really interesting because his mind went there right away.
<v Speaker 4>He had no trouble answering the question why do these
<v Speaker 4>people come here if they didn't think it was real?
<v Speaker 4>Ryan Warner, thank you very much for the pledge. Welcome
<v Speaker 4>to the ept or Zachary Cole Yes, Felix n Yes,
<v Speaker 4>Sean Wright. Sid as champion could be comparable to a
<v Speaker 4>popular sitcom character who isn't as valuable unless part of
<v Speaker 4>an ensemble cast.
<v Speaker 2>I like that, that's true.
<v Speaker 4>M An example would be Joey from Friends, popular with fans,
<v Speaker 4>has noticeable catchphrase, notable catchphrase, and Garner's laughs from the audience. However,
<v Speaker 4>when presented as the a plot or given more sincere storylines,
<v Speaker 4>they are more of a miss. This is further accentuated
<v Speaker 4>with the spin off sitcom of Joey. It was a
<v Speaker 4>big flop because ultimately, despite his popularity, the character slash
<v Speaker 4>performer is limited. This is the case with Sid popular,
<v Speaker 4>great look, memorable catchphrase, but when the show is meant
<v Speaker 4>to revolve around him as limitations are further accentuated. This
<v Speaker 4>is often a struggle for monster and spectacle champions. Undertaker's
<v Speaker 4>reigns are hindered by the limitations of his character to
<v Speaker 4>appear vulnerable and to sell challengers as potential threats. SID
<v Speaker 4>never evolved his promos beyond the shout Leaden style of
<v Speaker 4>the eighties and early nineties, and exception would be the
<v Speaker 4>scripted Nietzsche promo. Yeah, that's the Nietzsche prom that's the
<v Speaker 4>empty arena.
<v Speaker 2>One.
<v Speaker 4>Before Royal Roman ninety seven, Brett, Sean and Austin provided
<v Speaker 4>a more dynamic, grounded promo style for the time, and
<v Speaker 4>Sid stood out for the wrong reasons. The ensemble cast
<v Speaker 4>mentality of the main event scene in ninety six to
<v Speaker 4>ninety seven hid some of Sid's limitations, but it became
<v Speaker 4>clear that once he was given the A plot, he
<v Speaker 4>was no longer the man. That's true, he couldn't be
<v Speaker 4>the man. It was just hilarious because his catch phrase
<v Speaker 4>was the man who's the man?
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 4>Paully cautiously writes kind of harvest a case of viennas
<v Speaker 4>from the grocery store. Later, one of the great things
<v Speaker 4>you said, Boss, throughout the course of the SID tribute
<v Speaker 4>was do you grow viennas grop and Paul also writes, Geez,
<v Speaker 4>I remember Sid doing promos over his theme sounding a
<v Speaker 4>lot cooler and more menacing than they actually were. Nostalgia,
<v Speaker 4>I guess with Sid Brett Taker and pilled up HBK
<v Speaker 4>slurring every word that wasn't We're wrestling Federation the main
<v Speaker 4>event promos in late ninety sixth early ninety seven word
<v Speaker 4>dire at times. Yeah, yeah, Always wild to see people
<v Speaker 4>revisit what they thought was great stuff and realized perhaps
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't all that great. Kaypo wants the uh the
<v Speaker 4>pumpkin seed recipe.
<v Speaker 2>I sent him.
<v Speaker 4>Oh this is way back, I think, I think I
<v Speaker 4>think I sent him to He also wants the audio
<v Speaker 4>file of John Spencer laughing send him that memory?
<v Speaker 2>Did I send him that? I don't know. Did you
<v Speaker 2>have it? I do have it to hear it. Who's
<v Speaker 2>John Spencer? As you're looking for it?
<v Speaker 7>Ha ha.
<v Speaker 2>Hit it again, ha ha ha.
<v Speaker 5>He sent my church a case of Vienna sausages and
<v Speaker 5>I sent him an autograph picture. You sent my church
<v Speaker 5>a case of Vienna sausages and I sent him an
<v Speaker 5>autograph picture.
<v Speaker 3>Doing live.
<v Speaker 2>It's twenty twenty five, John Happy New Year doing light
<v Speaker 2>love like fucking lie right, how about it? How about it?
<v Speaker 2>You bitch ass motherfuckers? You already know what it is? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Can I hear John Spencer again again?
<v Speaker 7>Ha ha ha?
<v Speaker 2>Normal guy? Who's John Spencer? Why did he come up
<v Speaker 2>under the cinemat when we did the Rock? When we
<v Speaker 2>did the Rock? So John Spencer, you know, he's a great,
<v Speaker 2>wonderful actor, that guy of that guy's okay? And he
<v Speaker 2>he did this interview ship. I forget if it was
<v Speaker 2>I forget if it was on There was one on CNN,
<v Speaker 2>but this might have been Fresh Air, I don't remember.
<v Speaker 2>And he just, you know, he was talking about he's
<v Speaker 2>a very genuine individual, he's a great person. He's talking
<v Speaker 2>about addiction. You know, he's struggled with addiction in his
<v Speaker 2>whole life. And and then he just did this fucking
<v Speaker 2>weird ass. Lack was like, what is this? I love
<v Speaker 2>those so much? Oh God, wow, that was a riot there.
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't ready for that. Darren Hughes, thank you very
<v Speaker 4>much for the pledge. We appreciate the cake. Hy Daddy
<v Speaker 4>just writes on an episode it's sid one word. Viennasen
<v Speaker 4>brother Joe writes co chairs. Sid is the real life
<v Speaker 4>equivalent of Biff hand and from Back to the Future. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>a few examples, and I'm sure there are more. Once
<v Speaker 4>and for good this is the quote from SID. Take
<v Speaker 4>like a tree and get out of here, Biff. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>work right, Midget also rights here in Wisconsin. At least
<v Speaker 4>in print, harvest is used versus hunt. So we're talking
<v Speaker 4>about Sid is a hunter. Oh yes, talking about harvest.
<v Speaker 4>Yet they use the word hunter not harvester. Okay, great
<v Speaker 4>clarification there, Jeremy, thanks very much for the for the sport.
<v Speaker 4>We appreciate the pledge on Patreon. Neil rights after this
<v Speaker 4>episode of Total NonStop SID.
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one.
<v Speaker 4>I think Diesel is still the worst funny, It's still
<v Speaker 4>the worst WWF champion, but Sydney has a claim as well.
<v Speaker 4>At least with Diesel, there was an attempt to put
<v Speaker 4>him in the middle of the action, but SID is
<v Speaker 4>a complete afterthought. I remember Jim Ross saying that at
<v Speaker 4>this time that instead of pushing one guy, they wanted
<v Speaker 4>a multipolar main event scene with Brett sean undertaker in
<v Speaker 4>SID exchanging the belt, and Sid feels like the distant
<v Speaker 4>number four on that list would you agree, bost Man, Uh,
<v Speaker 4>distint number four?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I would say number four. I'm not a distant thought.
<v Speaker 4>I feel like him and Undertaker were pretty interchangeable in
<v Speaker 4>terms of the world title picture.
<v Speaker 2>At the time. I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe maybe him and Brett were pretty was a
<v Speaker 4>pretty good program in late ninety six. Yes, yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>maybe Carlo right guarding it's not like it's it. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know why, but for me, it's requiring more thought,
<v Speaker 4>a deeper thought. Yeah, process, So it's like a Sid.
<v Speaker 4>Sid by beating Sean at Survivor's Series ninety six, launched
<v Speaker 4>the whole idea of the world title picture being up
<v Speaker 4>for grabs. It kind of revolved around him, right, he
<v Speaker 4>was a catalyst. I'm not saying he was the one that,
<v Speaker 4>you know, could have really supported the position. I think
<v Speaker 4>we made it very clear and established that he was
<v Speaker 4>never going to be a longer term champion. It really
<v Speaker 4>didn't have the tools to be. But it's kind of
<v Speaker 4>weird that this chaos was caused by the fact that
<v Speaker 4>they put the belt on Sid and then all of
<v Speaker 4>a sudden it was kind of like up for grabs.
<v Speaker 4>Who could be considered the top man in the company
<v Speaker 4>because of Stags your world champ. Everyone else has a
<v Speaker 4>claim to. But he's the champ, and he's the reason
<v Speaker 4>for it being that way at the top of the
<v Speaker 4>card and not just all revolving around Shawn Michaels. Carla
<v Speaker 4>writes regarding harvesting, the place described sounded like a game farm.
<v Speaker 4>Is Sid's hunting again. They keep wild animals inside high
<v Speaker 4>fenced land. These animals were grown and harvested like a farm,
<v Speaker 4>people paying money to costplay hunting. Harvesting is also used
<v Speaker 4>by some as a politically correct term to describe hunting
<v Speaker 4>unless violent or socially acceptable language. I use the word
<v Speaker 4>kill when I kill, not because I'm blood thirsty, because
<v Speaker 4>it's honest and accurate.
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Oh, we can vote for that, Brent Clark.
<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Executive producer tier.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much. Jordan writes a new holiday tradition
<v Speaker 4>to the co chairman of the Only Podcast Best Enjoyed, Reclellly,
<v Speaker 4>Hope this finds you well. I'm writing to share some
<v Speaker 4>good news that will hopefully bring some joy to the
<v Speaker 4>Solar System's collective heart. Last Christmas, my brother, who is
<v Speaker 4>not a fan, was kind enough to gift me, a
<v Speaker 4>nearly thirty year old man, two tickets to the WW
<v Speaker 4>Holiday Tour in Baltimore. I've roped picked up with my
<v Speaker 4>parents into going with me again this year as a
<v Speaker 4>sort of new holiday tradition, at least for me. We're
<v Speaker 4>planning to dine at Sabatinos beforehand. That's the move right there.
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's exactly what you do.
<v Speaker 4>Stroke of genius, as it seems the only appropriate choice
<v Speaker 4>other than maybe Jimmy Seafood. Anyway, just wanted to say
<v Speaker 4>that even in the grim darkness of the year twenty
<v Speaker 4>twenty four, we can start something new and hope for
<v Speaker 4>a brighter future. Mike writes Hbka's commentary on Sid's matches,
<v Speaker 4>it buried Alive. It's time in Main's thirteen. It took
<v Speaker 4>TLF to highlight how weird that is. He always takes
<v Speaker 4>focus away from Sid. Yep, yep, that was always the thing. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about taxidermy deer heads because Sid had one
<v Speaker 4>on his wall. Daniel wants us to know that he
<v Speaker 4>inherited two taxidermy deer heads through marriage, and these are
<v Speaker 4>the most creepy, ghoulish, harrowing, night Merrish items in my
<v Speaker 4>house extraordinarily uncomfortable.
<v Speaker 2>He writes, Yeah, I agree, and I don't think you
<v Speaker 2>need that.
<v Speaker 4>Says these two deerheads eyes follow me around our living room.
<v Speaker 4>The whole concept is alien and disturbing to me.
<v Speaker 2>Ooh, thought of Yeah, I don't find that okay.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely stops you in your tracks. Scott writes thought
<v Speaker 4>in the SID ninety six Survivors series entrance. It's funny
<v Speaker 4>that entrance, a stone cold killer, fist pumping fans who
<v Speaker 4>want him to kill. How simple it was, even with
<v Speaker 4>the fireworks. How that entrance sticks with me more than
<v Speaker 4>the Dog and Pony Show WrestleMania entrances. Maybe the man
<v Speaker 4>makes the entrance another the extra stuff. Maybe it used
<v Speaker 4>to be better, so true. I mean, think about the
<v Speaker 4>effort they put in these Mania entrances, and by the
<v Speaker 4>time night two is over, you maybe remember one of them?
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, I mean, yeah, and hardly. I mean, And you
<v Speaker 2>know what's funny is that they go above and beyond
<v Speaker 2>with costumes and and uh uh, you know, lighting and
<v Speaker 2>music and pyro and all that stuff. Nothing's better than
<v Speaker 2>Sean Michael's on the zip line, right, you know, remember
<v Speaker 2>that shit way more than I remember anything else.
<v Speaker 4>So true, you know, it's anything else. You can do it,
<v Speaker 4>but just do it for one person or two people
<v Speaker 4>so it's memorable.
<v Speaker 2>I don't.
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting a little annoyed with like this, fuck it,
<v Speaker 4>WrestleMania becoming like prom for these geeks.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, Oh, totally is. It's exactly
<v Speaker 2>what it is. It's prom.
<v Speaker 4>Just it shows them to be so needy for like
<v Speaker 4>dress up. You know, stop stop, like not everybody needs
<v Speaker 4>a fucking marching band, ridiculous. It's because they're fucking assholes.
<v Speaker 4>It's just because they're they expect something out of wrestling
<v Speaker 4>that wrestling does not give to you, no matter how
<v Speaker 4>much is spent on you and how you know, gussied up,
<v Speaker 4>you feel it's like, that's not wrestling. Wrestling is not
<v Speaker 4>something that's going to make you feel like a fucking
<v Speaker 4>mythical superhero.
<v Speaker 2>Well, wrestling is well more importantly, maybe it'll make you
<v Speaker 2>feel like it if you're in the ring, but it's
<v Speaker 2>not meant that for the fans.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. It's you not
<v Speaker 4>to come off that way. You're supposed to be there
<v Speaker 4>to do business. You're there to fucking kill somebody. And
<v Speaker 4>if you have to go through a twelve step choreographed
<v Speaker 4>fucking gimmick on the way to the ring, I just
<v Speaker 4>it takes it.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>You have to be a special kind of athlete. And
<v Speaker 4>there are some combat athletes who can do this, who
<v Speaker 4>can have that kind of showmanship and still convince the
<v Speaker 4>public that they're they're there to kick ass. In wrestling
<v Speaker 4>where it's fake, should be a higher premium on preserving
<v Speaker 4>that intensity, yep, because you can't. You can't like Prince
<v Speaker 4>and I see him come out and just do a
<v Speaker 4>fucking dance routine and then whip somebody's ass in the
<v Speaker 4>boxing ring and no one can question the dancing routine
<v Speaker 4>because you whipped ass, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know that's what it is. So what
<v Speaker 2>do you want?
<v Speaker 4>Jeff says The amount of time I spend thinking about
<v Speaker 4>a case of Vienna sausages in exchange for an autograph picture,
<v Speaker 4>That's all he writes.
<v Speaker 2>It's so true. I can't I walk around thinking about
<v Speaker 2>it all the time. Yeah, it's so weird because I
<v Speaker 2>don't want, you know, I give my auto autograph picture.
<v Speaker 2>I give myself an autograph picture. Let me tell you
<v Speaker 2>what I did. Was I sent? I sent Saint Mary's Cathedral.
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm one hundred and fifty kens of Vienna Sausages.
<v Speaker 2>And I set myself an autograph picture. I sent myself
<v Speaker 2>an autograph picture. Is that what he said? I sent myself?
<v Speaker 2>Now I set myself auto rap picture? What brother? I
<v Speaker 2>didn't say anything? Why not?
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<v Speaker 4>Sorrow Laps Fan. Marv writes Vienna Sausages with Filipino breakfast
<v Speaker 4>pretty good during a hangover. There you go, my god,
<v Speaker 4>A vote for consuming it is it elis rights. Having
<v Speaker 4>the SID tribute so close to the Terry Funk tribute
<v Speaker 4>is so serendipitous. Both sides of the coin of being
<v Speaker 4>a pro wrestler, one guy who gave everything he had
<v Speaker 4>to the business, one who took as much as he
<v Speaker 4>could from it while doing almost the absolute least he could.
<v Speaker 4>Both equally carny in their own way. Yeah, he gave everything.
<v Speaker 4>Terry Funk gave everything he had to the business, but
<v Speaker 4>he was very smart about not letting it take advantage
<v Speaker 4>of him. Sid was the SID took that to the extreme.
<v Speaker 4>But they were actually kind of kindred spirit in that way.
<v Speaker 4>They took off, you know, Sid and Funk no matter
<v Speaker 4>how big the opportunity, they were looking for a way
<v Speaker 4>out as soon as they got there. Louis writes, Hey, guys,
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say I had much of an opinion one
<v Speaker 4>way or the other on Sid. He's just kind of there.
<v Speaker 4>But for whatever reason, your Tribute to Sid episodes have
<v Speaker 4>brought about this warm nostalgia for Sid and the nineteen
<v Speaker 4>ninety seven WWA product in general. Despite not living through
<v Speaker 4>this period as a fan anyways, the series has been
<v Speaker 4>some of your best work. Finished strong, and we're watching
<v Speaker 4>some of the pay per views of that era and
<v Speaker 4>re listening to your nineteen ninety seven journey In between
<v Speaker 4>the SID Tribute casts My thoughts have gone on a
<v Speaker 4>wild tangent imagining what might have happened if Sid struck
<v Speaker 4>around a little longer into the Attitude era. Would love
<v Speaker 4>to get your thoughts on what you picture it being
<v Speaker 4>like if Sid was amongst that early ninety eight boom
<v Speaker 4>an Austin versus Sid program. Sid was the higher power,
<v Speaker 4>or fuck put him in the nation of domination. One
<v Speaker 4>fantasy that did occur was old school brown outfit mankind
<v Speaker 4>teaming with Sid, who would lean far more into his
<v Speaker 4>psycho gimmick. Somehow this would have been This would have
<v Speaker 4>to be money. Maybe Sid could switch to brown trunks too.
<v Speaker 4>Oh god, I suppose he could find those trunks from
<v Speaker 4>where he had a poopoo explosion at WrestleMania a few
<v Speaker 4>months promer. Anyway, all the butt stuff, et cetera, Louis,
<v Speaker 4>how about that boss Sid?
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, all the butt stuff that's the best.
<v Speaker 4>Gets it way out of the way. How about Sid
<v Speaker 4>in the Attitude era.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think. I think I don't think he
<v Speaker 2>would have fit. Really, I just I think it was
<v Speaker 2>too I think it was too manic. I think it
<v Speaker 2>was too ball to the wall. I just don't think
<v Speaker 2>he would have fit into that. I think I think
<v Speaker 2>he's a good segue into it. I just don't think
<v Speaker 2>he would have. I mean, I I don't know how
<v Speaker 2>I feel about and like you know, and especially at
<v Speaker 2>that time, he he just was not a good promoes
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, you look at you look at some
<v Speaker 2>of the earlier stuff, and you know, like that ninety
<v Speaker 2>two run, he's he's not making silly shit at all,
<v Speaker 2>like he's making sense, and by ninety six he's he's it's, it's,
<v Speaker 2>it's he's fallen down the road. Yes, And uh, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know, I don't I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if I just I don't I don't know if he
<v Speaker 2>would have really fit. I don't know if he would
<v Speaker 2>have been a good compliment to it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you're right. There's a lot there's a
<v Speaker 4>lot more acting and being handed a script in the
<v Speaker 4>Attitude era than Sid would have been comfortable with.
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think, I mean, I also think too,
<v Speaker 2>I think you know, Sid in the Attitude era is
<v Speaker 2>what we saw in W CW. I don't think he
<v Speaker 2>would have you know, I think he would have been
<v Speaker 2>exposed more because everything was so uh, I mean, uh,
<v Speaker 2>it just it just felt so much more like just
<v Speaker 2>throwing shit against the wall and seeing what happens, see
<v Speaker 2>what sticks.
<v Speaker 4>And I honestly could see Russo looking at Sid in
<v Speaker 4>ninety eight WWF or ninety nine WWF and just like
<v Speaker 4>coming up with some really stupid, like goofy like comedy
<v Speaker 4>sne make like a priest or something.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you get a whole rapackaging, but
<v Speaker 4>he would lean into the kind of things that make
<v Speaker 4>Sid ludicrous to the point where I don't think he'd
<v Speaker 4>be a very effective, like world title challenging opponent in
<v Speaker 4>that structure. I think he would very easily, very quickly
<v Speaker 4>go from like what gold dust was in ninety five
<v Speaker 4>to what gold dust was in ninety eight, you know,
<v Speaker 4>just like totally totally turning up the aspects of the
<v Speaker 4>gimmick that are much better when subtly and minimally deployed
<v Speaker 4>and exposed, and just like cranking it up to where
<v Speaker 4>he'd probably he'd probably do some like incredibly cheesy thing
<v Speaker 4>where like he killed someone in cold blood or you know,
<v Speaker 4>or accidentally hit someone with a car because he's so
<v Speaker 4>crazy or something. Right, it'd just be I don't know,
<v Speaker 4>I think It would just call upon him to act
<v Speaker 4>too much, is what I'm trying to say. And we
<v Speaker 4>know from the sid journey that you cannot hand that manuscript,
<v Speaker 4>not that he doesn't want to do, you can't. He
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't be being capable of carrying those fifteen minute dogging
<v Speaker 4>segments that was required to be a top guy in
<v Speaker 4>that era. WWF Legion AOD, thank you very much for
<v Speaker 4>the pledge. We appreciate the sport. Andrew Trudeau, we see you,
<v Speaker 4>and thanks for bumping up what you send your co
<v Speaker 4>chairman's way. Jack recognizes the very dangerous question, so what.
<v Speaker 2>Is the kick? Carlo?
<v Speaker 4>I have to tell you, I don't remember what that was.
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad it's an important question, but I don't quite
<v Speaker 4>remember what I referred to always hate that in them
<v Speaker 4>feedback shows.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe you can remind me. This one's from Josh Boss.
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you share what Josh has to say? Right Josh,
<v Speaker 2>Greetings from the Adirondacks. I'm hoping to get this in
<v Speaker 2>by the Fall mail Bag twenty twenty four, but if not,
<v Speaker 2>it's all good. Firstly, my dad is a huge lapsed
<v Speaker 2>fan wow, or at least lapsed by proxies. It's actually
<v Speaker 2>the second lapse thing he is. The first is a
<v Speaker 2>lapsed Catholic. His priest was Irish like my father. When
<v Speaker 2>they changed the priest with a Middle Eastern one who
<v Speaker 2>spoke very broken English that he could not understand. However,
<v Speaker 2>Dad played it like lapsed vince. I'm not being racist, truly,
<v Speaker 2>he isn't. It's the whole body and bread thing. He
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't believe saying magic words turns the water into
<v Speaker 2>the body of Jesus, to which I told him I'd
<v Speaker 2>rather not believe that every Sunday I'm eating over two
<v Speaker 2>thousand year old Jesus jerky. He laughed, and I knew
<v Speaker 2>at that point there were no sacred cows for him.
<v Speaker 2>He could handle that fucking cast. My dad isn't like
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the dads in the Lapse fan solar system.
<v Speaker 2>I've been a fan since I was like four years old.
<v Speaker 2>By the time Mains three came around, I knew it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't real. It was predetermined. Since then, he's followed me
<v Speaker 2>down the ringside rabbit hole in the in the ensuing
<v Speaker 2>so far forty years being an Andrea fan, I broke
<v Speaker 2>him in on an episode where laft Fins told Andre
<v Speaker 2>to do some top rope move and called Andrea the Giant,
<v Speaker 2>called him Andrea the Giant cunt. That one got me,
<v Speaker 2>Andrea the Giant Cunt. He's been a fan ever since.
<v Speaker 2>I've only gone to one wrestling event in my life.
<v Speaker 2>It was a Monday night raw in Lake Placid, New York.
<v Speaker 2>Lake Placid was home to the nineteen thirty two and
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty Winter Olympics, in fifteen minutes from my hometown
<v Speaker 2>of Saraenac. S Yeah, Saraenacy Lake Brother would this is
<v Speaker 2>the raw? Amed Johnson turned on the on the Taker
<v Speaker 2>and joined the nation. Oh you know who I was exciting?
<v Speaker 2>You know well, said Sarahnac Undertaking. Yeah, damn it. As
<v Speaker 2>soon as I came out of my mouth, I knew
<v Speaker 2>you were going to get it. Well, you know mentioned
<v Speaker 2>Undertaker right there for that. If he hadn't mentioned Undertaker,
<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't have got it, wouldn't have got him.
<v Speaker 2>It was exciting, even though the seats were way near
<v Speaker 2>the back. Still I got to witness Pillman, Austin Taker,
<v Speaker 2>gold Dust Heart Foundation all during the Attitude era. The
<v Speaker 2>youth group I was I was with said we had
<v Speaker 2>to go early, so I didn't get I didn't. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't get to see the dark match at the end
<v Speaker 2>one day. Like laps Jets Jesse, I went back. I'll
<v Speaker 2>go back until then. I have you two and the
<v Speaker 2>Solar System excellent.
<v Speaker 4>Love it, great stuff, love that inspired Missive There Kaypo's
<v Speaker 4>back and he's got an email entitled Sid to your
<v Speaker 4>co chairs. First of all, I want to commend you
<v Speaker 4>both for an amazing tribute Psycho Sid and his accomplishments
<v Speaker 4>as well as blunders and pro wrestling. I wanted to
<v Speaker 4>share my memories of Sid Udi. Hopefully the email isn't
<v Speaker 4>too long. It's not started watching wrestling full time in
<v Speaker 4>June of nineteen ninety eight, and it was strictly WCW
<v Speaker 4>because my mom wouldn't let me watch WWF because of boobs.
<v Speaker 2>But I knew.
<v Speaker 4>But I knew of wrestling from my older cousins and
<v Speaker 4>playing sn e s. They had WWF, Super WrestleMania, and
<v Speaker 4>I always played a Sid Justice. Did you ever play
<v Speaker 4>Sid Justice and Super WrestleMania?
<v Speaker 2>Boss? I don't. I didn't have I didn't have a
<v Speaker 2>Super Super Nintendo. Was he in Monday Night Raw or
<v Speaker 2>Royal Rumble. No, he was gone by Oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>that was my first time. I think the only one
<v Speaker 2>he was in was it was the Super WrestleMania for SUPERNW.
<v Speaker 4>Is gonna say it's it right? Was he in the
<v Speaker 4>the nes Wrestling Challenge for the Cage?
<v Speaker 2>No he was, Yeah, he was in Steel Cage Challenge
<v Speaker 2>A challenge, Okay, yes he was.
<v Speaker 4>When I got into wrestling, I rented every video that
<v Speaker 4>my local Blockbuster had and saw Sid in various tapes.
<v Speaker 4>He was in a couple of w W tapes they had,
<v Speaker 4>and of course Rumble ninety two and WrestleMania eight, and
<v Speaker 4>I acquired WrestleMania eleven nine, I think he says eleven
<v Speaker 4>eleven from another video store. So I saw Sid there too.
<v Speaker 4>Top that with buying a Wow magazine in early nineteen
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine and there was a full page picture of
<v Speaker 4>Sid from MECW. So Sid was always around, but I
<v Speaker 4>never saw him wrestle live until he came back to
<v Speaker 4>WCW in nineteen ninety nine. Now, and he came back,
<v Speaker 4>I thought it was kind of a goof. He was
<v Speaker 4>Randy Savage's lackey and probably the driver of the White Hummer.
<v Speaker 4>But his match against Sting at Roadewild nineteen ninety nine
<v Speaker 4>made me a believer.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, there you go.
<v Speaker 4>Sid thought that match was going to be a huge
<v Speaker 4>career changer for him, going over Sting clean and no
<v Speaker 4>one gave a fuck.
<v Speaker 2>Pekai Bomer gave a fuck.
<v Speaker 4>I still remember the finishing sequence, which has something about
<v Speaker 4>its place in my wrestling memory. Sting hits a super
<v Speaker 4>blacks on Sid and said just no. Selse gets back
<v Speaker 4>to his feet, puts himself in the corner. Sting hits
<v Speaker 4>two Stinger splashes, and when he goes for the third one,
<v Speaker 4>Sid catches him with a goozle and give him a
<v Speaker 4>choke slam and pins him clean.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 4>Pos, that was on the Millennium Man tape. Yes, I
<v Speaker 4>remember Servanni just being in shock and as a Sting fan,
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe it. I mean that was Sting he
<v Speaker 4>beat decisively.
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy.
<v Speaker 4>I thought he ended up getting a raw deal, even
<v Speaker 4>though he held the w state be titled for a bit.
<v Speaker 4>Just seemed like he was there and never really showcase.
<v Speaker 7>No.
<v Speaker 4>A little bit of a nitro deal actues, which could
<v Speaker 4>also be as fault as you guys expertly uncovered his
<v Speaker 4>transgressions in the wrestling business throughout the years. Another thing
<v Speaker 4>I remembered, based off some of the stores you Guys
<v Speaker 4>Unearthed stories, rather you Guys unearthed, was that there was
<v Speaker 4>a forgettable backstage segment from WCW Fallbrowl nineteen ninety eight
<v Speaker 4>in which Scott Steiner is trying to get out of
<v Speaker 4>a match with his brother Rick by feigning an injury.
<v Speaker 4>He put a small band aid on the inside of
<v Speaker 4>his bicep and another small band aid on the outside
<v Speaker 4>of his bicep and said he couldn't wrestle Rick because
<v Speaker 4>he was hurt. JJ Dillon didn't buy it and made
<v Speaker 4>Scott wrestle his brother or be barred from WCW for life.
<v Speaker 4>When you Guys mentioned the squeegee confrontation Sid had with
<v Speaker 4>Mike Graham where he couldn't fight because of his injury
<v Speaker 4>and the band aid on his arm, I immediately thought
<v Speaker 4>of this segment, which was probably a rib on Sid. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>I think we even touched on that. Yeah, it was definitely.
<v Speaker 4>I think Mike Graham was an agent for ww at
<v Speaker 4>the times, so that makes sense. One more story, but
<v Speaker 4>this one was a little not safe for work. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>let's do it, brother.
<v Speaker 2>I had various tapes in.
<v Speaker 4>My library that were paused at a certain time when
<v Speaker 4>there was a bikini segment or something like that, I,
<v Speaker 4>as a horny adolescent, could master bait two. One of
<v Speaker 4>these tapes was WW hollywn Havoc nineteen ninety nine. At
<v Speaker 4>this event, Medusa walks out in a bikini to promote
<v Speaker 4>the WW Nitro cologne that Bobby Heenon describes as smelling
<v Speaker 4>like the men's room at.
<v Speaker 2>The Newark Airport. Well, hey, you know what happens.
<v Speaker 4>Imagine being the cologne licensee and watching the WW show
<v Speaker 4>to see her cologne advertise, and Bobby Heenon calls it that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine that would have been a little rough.
<v Speaker 4>I would wank to Medusa walking out when and when
<v Speaker 4>I was done, I'd rewind it to the beginning of
<v Speaker 4>the segment for the next time. But sometimes I rewind
<v Speaker 4>too much and get the segment right before, which was
<v Speaker 4>Sidy yelling let it bleed after getting oh god, busted
<v Speaker 4>open by Goldberg backstage. If the tape started there the
<v Speaker 4>next time, it was an instant boner killer.
<v Speaker 2>That's funny.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'd imagine that all the ways to remember that
<v Speaker 4>infamous Cid Goldberg Halloween havoc. That's how Kayper remembers it. Anyway,
<v Speaker 4>thank you guys for all you do. I'll have another
<v Speaker 4>emailk qued up based in the fiftieth Big State Time
<v Speaker 4>fiftieth State Big Time Wrestling, But this one is all
<v Speaker 4>about the Master and the ruler of the world when
<v Speaker 4>we look forward to them. Such a great wrestling history
<v Speaker 4>and tradition in Hawaii. Undertold, undertold for sure. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 4>Clint points out a good one. We were wondering why
<v Speaker 4>Arne would settle his lawsuit against sid for the stabbing
<v Speaker 4>all those years later in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, so,
<v Speaker 4>if you think about it, arn was just a few
<v Speaker 4>months away from announcing his retirement when the lawsuit was settled.
<v Speaker 4>I think he and his wife just had a second
<v Speaker 4>baby too. I remember him talking about the anxiety he
<v Speaker 4>was feeling about having to be retired with the two kids.
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't even forty yet. Maybe he saw his financial
<v Speaker 4>situation was changing and realized the lawsuit wasn't the best
<v Speaker 4>thing to spend his money on. It's a good guess,
<v Speaker 4>really good guess. If he'd say a word about it,
<v Speaker 4>we would know for sure. But he doesn't, so that's that.
<v Speaker 4>Josh Beckham, thank you very much for the pledge. We
<v Speaker 4>appreciate the support. Mark Beer, thank you very much. Steve writes,
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if what Vince loved most about the CID
<v Speaker 4>stabbing is that arn Anderson left Vince for Turner and
<v Speaker 4>his punishment was being stabbed. Also, Boss would love Fantagio.
<v Speaker 4>That was the wrestler who was the magician we talked
<v Speaker 4>briefly about during his WF tryout. His liquid flames set
<v Speaker 4>the gorilla position to blaze and almost burnt Bruce Pritchard
<v Speaker 4>to death in the process. Yes, I have heard Bruce
<v Speaker 4>tell that story on his podcast, which is fucking hilarious.
<v Speaker 4>So close did Tom sellek like a pervert on Friends?
<v Speaker 4>He thinks he did, Sean Wright Sid being Yeah, I
<v Speaker 4>don't remember Sid being a salesman as the real life
<v Speaker 4>equivalent of the coin toss scene from No Country for
<v Speaker 4>Old Men, Zach writes, twenty five minute, Mark Jack spoke
<v Speaker 4>words that were pulled from my deepest, deepest truth. I
<v Speaker 4>watch movies, TV shows, read books and magazines from the
<v Speaker 4>seventies through mid nineties because I wish I was my
<v Speaker 4>age during those times not a kid my age. I
<v Speaker 4>could drive those cars brand new. I could be in
<v Speaker 4>my current job at in a time with no fucking
<v Speaker 4>internet or cell phones. I could eat all the food
<v Speaker 4>without the constant kilt and doubt of how bad it
<v Speaker 4>all is.
<v Speaker 2>Subpoint.
<v Speaker 4>I know McDonald's is shitty food, but damn do I
<v Speaker 4>miss a time when you could go to McDonald's or gasp,
<v Speaker 4>take your child there and not seem like your low
<v Speaker 4>brow or being a negligent to your and their health.
<v Speaker 4>I could go to every Monday Night Ron nineteen ninety three.
<v Speaker 4>I would be at every classic pay per view. There
<v Speaker 4>are thousands of scenes and images from those movies and
<v Speaker 4>shows I just want to teleport into, most of which
<v Speaker 4>are mundane. Sure, there are lots of great things about now,
<v Speaker 4>but damn does it look like it used to be better?
<v Speaker 2>That is the point. I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>It's not because I want to be young again, It's
<v Speaker 4>because I want to be an adult. Then looks like, Yes,
<v Speaker 4>it looks like a great fucking deal without all the
<v Speaker 4>bullshit on fire highlights. Thank you very much for your pledge,
<v Speaker 4>Brian Wright. Welcome into the inner circle. Yeah that's true.
<v Speaker 4>This is a great one.
<v Speaker 2>From Habib.
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, what's missing in the Muffler discussion on the Greed
<v Speaker 4>pay per view episode Muffler is when you stick toilet
<v Speaker 4>paper up your ass crack and go out for wrestle
<v Speaker 4>so that you don't leak ass sweat through your trunks
<v Speaker 4>like Dusty.
<v Speaker 2>I don't see what the problem is. Talk about how
<v Speaker 2>Dusty wrestled with no underwear on genes.
<v Speaker 4>Agreed, but how he points out. What's being missed in
<v Speaker 4>this discussion is the need to have wide adoption of bedets.
<v Speaker 2>Boss. What's your experience with bidets? If any o them?
<v Speaker 2>Oh saw stream up the ass, love it? If there's
<v Speaker 2>one hotel you're using it. I I listen, we have
<v Speaker 2>we we you know we got we got a tushy.
<v Speaker 2>You know what I didn't know? Oh my god. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's like basically a you can you know, it's not
<v Speaker 2>like a full blown but you can just install it
<v Speaker 2>in your own toilet and it's absolutely remarkable. I can't listen, Honestly,
<v Speaker 2>I can't take a ship with that one.
<v Speaker 7>Now. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't feel I don't feel clean. I
<v Speaker 2>do not feel clean. I was very wary of it
<v Speaker 2>when we got it. I was like, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I need I want something kind of
<v Speaker 2>spraying up my anus. But but it is a very
<v Speaker 2>se satisfying thing. I did not I did not know
<v Speaker 2>that was coming. I really I think you could tell
<v Speaker 2>like one story when you stayed in Belgium about how
<v Speaker 2>you used to use it. Now, No, I mean I'd
<v Speaker 2>never use one until we got until we got the one,
<v Speaker 2>uh in our in our bathroom, I'd never use one before.
<v Speaker 4>Amazing, So highest recommendation then, absolutely. Do you just should
<v Speaker 4>it right up your asshole? Or do you like go
<v Speaker 4>back and forth?
<v Speaker 5>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>I do it back and forth. I do a little
<v Speaker 2>rocking thing like I'm just a commentary. He was rocking.
<v Speaker 4>I saw a few angles he was doing. It still
<v Speaker 4>does not amazing, but points out the Western world is
<v Speaker 4>no doubt superior to the Middle East with this one exception.
<v Speaker 4>Post defication, care is no laughing matter. One thing I
<v Speaker 4>noticed when I came back from a rock is how
<v Speaker 4>some people here smell like shit, sometimes not a euphemism,
<v Speaker 4>like actual shit. It occurred to me that there were
<v Speaker 4>legions of us walking around with dookie in our ass needlessly.
<v Speaker 4>It's a simple fix. Call me a Bidet evangelist.
<v Speaker 2>M it's a wonderful thing. It's amazing.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there cleaner asses in other parts of the world.
<v Speaker 4>That yeah, embrace that.
<v Speaker 2>Faine rights.
<v Speaker 4>I got a side with Sid against Arno. Sid has
<v Speaker 4>probably gone off those somas and had some of that
<v Speaker 4>stella the wife beater in him. Arn has always been
<v Speaker 4>one of those guys that's never the bride but always
<v Speaker 4>the bridesmaid, and Eric pulling some dumb shit to get
<v Speaker 4>sit out because they didn't want to pay him pretty much.
<v Speaker 4>Cements it that there was a lot more to the story. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's true. They were trying to figure out contractual terms
<v Speaker 4>after this happened. They were not trying to fire Sid.
<v Speaker 4>I think that's what sure that we established and Fane
<v Speaker 4>comes down strong on one side, on popular side, but
<v Speaker 4>one side nonetheless. Rich Molton, thank you very much for
<v Speaker 4>your pledge. Quick to have you in the solar system.
<v Speaker 4>De Wu, thank you very much for the cake. We
<v Speaker 4>appreciate the support. Same to you, Shane Sinclair, let's see
<v Speaker 4>mister as thank you. I met Javed, Thank you very much, Bruno,
<v Speaker 4>thanks for the cake. Iron McReynolds. We love the support
<v Speaker 4>and thank you very much. William wonders, what if Vader
<v Speaker 4>just grabs Scorpio's hash brick and shoved it into his mouth?
<v Speaker 4>No questions, asked Scorpio, This hash tastes like fucking shit,
<v Speaker 4>where's the corn beef? Two cold? Just sits there mouth Agate.
<v Speaker 4>Vader choose and choose. That's how he ends up at
<v Speaker 4>his underwear in the lobby.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's totally fine. Yeah, I'm kind of with
<v Speaker 2>all that.
<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, okay, let's see, this is taking us back.
<v Speaker 4>I think to the inn where it all happened. Right,
<v Speaker 4>you have many things, he writes, interesting lapsed connection for
<v Speaker 4>Antonina Roca. He apparently introduced Lenny Montana to the mobsters
<v Speaker 4>that would get him involved in organized crime, as Rocca
<v Speaker 4>was a dining guest with various mafia members. The mob
<v Speaker 4>loved rubbing shoulders with Italian American athletes in New York,
<v Speaker 4>even if they were frauds. Yes, that was always something
<v Speaker 4>Bruno was very sensitive about, these dinners that he would
<v Speaker 4>that he would be able to go to after the matches.
<v Speaker 4>Absolute in the north end of the little mind. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I think we know what's going on there, we know absolutely. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>So the stabbing in England the hotel that the stabbing
<v Speaker 4>happened in. Stephen writes, what's never discussed and considered? It
<v Speaker 4>was the early nineties. Has it ever been considered this
<v Speaker 4>was a family run establishment who had to suffer Carney's
<v Speaker 4>stabbing each other and wandering around and only underpants, screaming
<v Speaker 4>for food, possibly mere feet from their own private quarters. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really consider the regular guests during all this, Jason,
<v Speaker 4>Why doesn't anyone ever cover the second near murder that
<v Speaker 4>happened during that fateful night in England? After the Arnsid
<v Speaker 4>stabbing match ended and people were taken to the hospital
<v Speaker 4>to cold, Scorpio told Vader he could come up to
<v Speaker 4>my room to finish this hash if he wanted, since
<v Speaker 4>it was such a stressful night. Vader goes up and
<v Speaker 4>flies into a rage. Where's the hash? Scorpio's like, here
<v Speaker 4>hit this. Vader didn't want a joint. He wanted hash
<v Speaker 4>corn beef and.
<v Speaker 2>Hash smart, very exactly different kind of hash. That's what
<v Speaker 2>he wants.
<v Speaker 4>They had a knockdown, drag down brawl until other wrestlers
<v Speaker 4>could lure Vader away with a Mars Barken just like
<v Speaker 4>leading him by the note Jake Connark thank you very
<v Speaker 4>much for the pledge. Sam O'Connor, appreciate the big voter
<v Speaker 4>support there and climbing all up.
<v Speaker 7>That that.
<v Speaker 2>TLF Tree, Cody Hinkele, thanks very much for the pledge.
<v Speaker 2>We like you very much.
<v Speaker 4>Steven said, I believe Jack is right about Arn never
<v Speaker 4>discussing the stabbing publicly.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I got a lot of support in that one. So
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad I didn't miss anything, because I really would
<v Speaker 4>like to know one one emotion Arnt has thinking back
<v Speaker 4>on that day.
<v Speaker 2>But I know, could you just get one, Just give
<v Speaker 2>me one fucking reaction there absolutely nothing, no, no, no,
<v Speaker 2>I will not. I will not.
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what we've we've heard all these years. Garrek Taylor,
<v Speaker 4>thanks for all the support.
<v Speaker 2>Sure what this is.
<v Speaker 4>Let's see, William Webb, I'm not a great boss. I
<v Speaker 4>mostly just want to do my job with mental interference
<v Speaker 4>to your jobs. I'm fine. Oh, I think he's talking
<v Speaker 4>about Okay, we talk about waffle House, as we always do.
<v Speaker 4>Waffle House always comes up, of course. William Wrights, gentlemen,
<v Speaker 4>I would like to share something. I work as an
<v Speaker 4>overnight department manager at a grocery store and we share
<v Speaker 4>a parking lot with waffle house. As far as waffle
<v Speaker 4>houses go, I guess it's very good. With plea, I
<v Speaker 4>guess it's very good. Police only showing up once or
<v Speaker 4>twice a night. We have vendors who come in during
<v Speaker 4>my shift and I have to check them in since
<v Speaker 4>the doors are locked. After closing, the vendors will tap
<v Speaker 4>on the glass with their keys to alert us. Thanks
<v Speaker 4>to that cast, which I listen to every night, I
<v Speaker 4>have this fever dream about wrestlers coming to the door
<v Speaker 4>and tapping, but with a fork instead of keys. Often
<v Speaker 4>it's John Tenta. However, after this it's definitely Vader, who
<v Speaker 4>has cleaned out the waffle house, but he isn't satisfied.
<v Speaker 4>Let men, I know you've got waffles in there. To me,
<v Speaker 4>I'm still hungry. I'll lead him frozen. I don't care
<v Speaker 4>give you waffles. He sees a pallette of eggoes and
<v Speaker 4>just charges at it. Yeah, splashes into it, smashing them,
<v Speaker 4>eating the box, smashing open cases about cases of breakfast goods,
<v Speaker 4>and stuffing his face with the frozen, crumbly tetritus.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, I'm not a great box. It's all real,
<v Speaker 2>it's all real. Oh, my god, I can see it.
<v Speaker 2>I can see it now.
<v Speaker 4>He paints such a vivid picture. Scott Arnold. Thanks for
<v Speaker 4>the support, Adam writes, I'm just going to share this.
<v Speaker 4>It's easy enough to find Sid's a bituary online, and
<v Speaker 4>being that the human condition is both hilarious and depressing,
<v Speaker 4>some of the comments are exactly what you'd expect talking
<v Speaker 4>about you know, how you can add comments and someone's
<v Speaker 4>obituary online. One thing that's stuck with me, and we'll
<v Speaker 4>probably do so over quite some time is the comment
<v Speaker 4>someone made explaining that Sid introduced him to sushi.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, with that, what you will? You know when I
<v Speaker 2>was in Japan you can hear it now. Oh boy,
<v Speaker 2>I used to love the sausages y heat.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for the pledge, Miles, Thanks for the pledge, Ronnie,
<v Speaker 4>thanks for the pledged DP Thanks for the doubling of
<v Speaker 4>said pledge. Matt Anderson. Welcome to the EP here, Anthony Rossi,
<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the EP tier. Christopher Bizzolo, Welcome to the
<v Speaker 4>EP tier. Welcome Jesse Harrison, Welcome DJ Smitty, and welcome
<v Speaker 4>Michael Caaprio. These are all EP motherfuckers going all the way.
<v Speaker 4>Man Akaliko I hope I'm saying that right. Thank you
<v Speaker 4>very much for the support. Ken Riegel, thank you very
<v Speaker 4>much for the help. And uh, Stephen, Peterisee and Thane
<v Speaker 4>Warre who we've called out, thank you very much for
<v Speaker 4>the support. Brian Sweeney, thanks for pumping up. Jason Powell,
<v Speaker 4>We appreciate your support. Corey in Winnipeg answers our question,
<v Speaker 4>who's the first bad guy you cheered for? Remember we
<v Speaker 4>talked about that along the way first bad guy you
<v Speaker 4>cheered for? Conversation. He writes to be very different from me.
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure I must have at one pointment pulling for
<v Speaker 4>a heel earlier than this, but at nineteen eighty six
<v Speaker 4>was the year I remember mainly che to cheering for
<v Speaker 4>heels Orndorf, Savage and Jake on TV plus the Horsemen
<v Speaker 4>through magazines. Sid's ara and reactions were among the best
<v Speaker 4>in the business, even if his ring skills can't match
<v Speaker 4>up to them. Yeah, we were talking about how Sid
<v Speaker 4>got those huge reactions in eighty nine despite never being
<v Speaker 4>presented anything close to a babyface in NBA, and so yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I can see that there were definitely there was definitely
<v Speaker 4>an undercurrent during the Rock and wrestling era of cheering
<v Speaker 4>for the heels, no question, like if you Paul Ardroff
<v Speaker 4>would get huge reactions. People were so ready to cheer
<v Speaker 4>for him when they were allowed to in eighty six
<v Speaker 4>because even during his run with Hogan in some towns
<v Speaker 4>he would get huge reactions. And Randy Savage, he was
<v Speaker 4>just too fucking amazing in the ring, you know, yep, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I hate a guy that double access to the floor
<v Speaker 4>like that for very long. Chris turg l Fierira, thank
<v Speaker 4>you very much for the pledge and welcome into our
<v Speaker 4>inner circle.
<v Speaker 2>Boss.
<v Speaker 4>Hear something Charles from Albany's Schenectady and he was at
<v Speaker 4>the ninety two rumble.
<v Speaker 2>He wants us to know.
<v Speaker 4>Which is fucking I can imagine having been there or
<v Speaker 4>what that was like. But here's the uh, here's the words.
<v Speaker 2>All right, dear co chairman, It's time. After all these
<v Speaker 2>years of lurking in the shadows of my guilt, never
<v Speaker 2>sending an email, never acknowledging me on a holy impact
<v Speaker 2>you've had in my life, I figured it's about time
<v Speaker 2>I broke the silence. I've been listening since day one
<v Speaker 2>on Wrestle Zone. Yes, that horrendous media player experience. We're
<v Speaker 2>just getting through. One episode felt like a sixty minute
<v Speaker 2>iron Man match with dial up internet, back when we
<v Speaker 2>had to fight for our hashtag shelf life content before
<v Speaker 2>it was cool. But here's the thing, despite your relentless
<v Speaker 2>and soul piercing demands for Patreon dollars, I mean, after all,
<v Speaker 2>you deserve it. I've never sent a dime, not one
<v Speaker 2>red scent. And do I feel bad? Of course not? Why, because, gentlemen,
<v Speaker 2>I'm a heel, a terrible person, really, the kind of
<v Speaker 2>person who consumed without giving. In each new watching my
<v Speaker 2>wallets like it's the last time Triple h held on
<v Speaker 2>to the title. I don't intend to give either. Not
<v Speaker 2>because you don't deserve it, you absolutely do, but because well,
<v Speaker 2>we can't all be heroes, and I'm like Brett, I
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be. Now, let's talk about the more
<v Speaker 2>intimate side of this relationship. It's hard to find words
<v Speaker 2>to describe the experience of having my rectum forcibly penetrated
<v Speaker 2>by each episode. Stretched doesn't quite cover it. It's more
<v Speaker 2>like a deep spiritual rearrangement, as if each well placed dig,
<v Speaker 2>each impersonation, each harrowing collection of the business shreds the
<v Speaker 2>very fabric of my soul like an unholy body slam
<v Speaker 2>to my coloness. That makes me ask myself, what am
<v Speaker 2>I doing with my life? Why do I keep coming
<v Speaker 2>back for more? Well you know the answer. It's because
<v Speaker 2>I need it? And why? Now you ask what could
<v Speaker 2>possibly prompt this email? After all these years of silence.
<v Speaker 2>I was re listening to your back last two thousand
<v Speaker 2>and four episode because yes, your podcast has hashtag shelf life,
<v Speaker 2>and it hit me this was the final push I needed. Yep?
<v Speaker 2>Was this the birth of the lapse editor? The moment
<v Speaker 2>when that character, the epitome of editorial disdain was conjured
<v Speaker 2>from the depths of your collective minds? If so, bravo.
<v Speaker 2>I'll pay for that kind of genius, but we've already
<v Speaker 2>established I'm not going to do that. Right, keep doing
<v Speaker 2>what you do. I'll keep not paying but needing every
<v Speaker 2>SICI anally wrecked listener. That's funny. I like that he was.
<v Speaker 4>It is grappling with quite a bit, there wasn't he. Indeed,
<v Speaker 4>you know what, Brian Blake wasn't grappling with what to
<v Speaker 4>do with the face of the Vienna stuff. We we
<v Speaker 4>failed to mention this, but he sent us a receipt
<v Speaker 4>delivered September twenty fifth to the receptionist or someone at
<v Speaker 4>the front desk of Saint Mary's Episcopal in Memphis, was
<v Speaker 4>a can of armor Vienna sausage smoked. Wow, he sent it,
<v Speaker 4>and I love it so much, so everyone in the
<v Speaker 4>Vienna spirit as we sate Sid.
<v Speaker 2>It's just tremendous. That's just fucking funniest shit ever.
<v Speaker 4>These little cans of meat. Yep, you know, to cause
<v Speaker 4>such a sensation. Ethan writes, Rip Sid and condolences to
<v Speaker 4>his son Frankfurt or Udy. I've already listened to bart
<v Speaker 4>one twice instant classic. You two never failed to deliver
<v Speaker 4>the Vienna's He says, Is it just me? Or did
<v Speaker 4>Sid's hair look like someone poured a cup of wet
<v Speaker 4>Ramen noodles on his head?
<v Speaker 2>Yes?
<v Speaker 4>For that reason, one hundred percent correct, and says I
<v Speaker 4>could never get behind him one hundred percent. See, I
<v Speaker 4>always thought Sid's hair was a plus.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's right in saying that it looks like
<v Speaker 2>Ramanus because that I like Ramen. Yeah, just another way
<v Speaker 2>of saying that, I suppose Jessev.
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for the pledge my friend Stuart William.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Andy.
<v Speaker 4>We appreciate your help. Mark Hutchinson, thanks for the support.
<v Speaker 4>Nick Osipoff, Washa Andrea, thank you very much for joining
<v Speaker 4>the executive producer tier on Patreon.
<v Speaker 2>Marty F.
<v Speaker 4>Shells, Rene Greater Carl from Saint Louis longtime supporter. It's
<v Speaker 4>great to see all these names putting their money where
<v Speaker 4>their mouth is. Dirger writes, interesting hearing the Squeezee story
<v Speaker 4>regarding Sid. I can relay the version that was told
<v Speaker 4>to me in ninety eight, ninety nine by someone that
<v Speaker 4>says they were there. I'm pretty sure they worked for
<v Speaker 4>WWF at the time, but it's fifty to fifty they
<v Speaker 4>got the story from someone else. No, that makes sense
<v Speaker 4>because don't forget Sid was in WWF when this happened, right, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and Pillman was in ww and they were in the
<v Speaker 4>same hotel. Anyways, the version I have no mention of Mike,
<v Speaker 4>just Pillman. No Mike Graham, who tells the best version
<v Speaker 4>of the story that we shared in the episode, but
<v Speaker 4>his mention Mike, this story has just Pilman getting into
<v Speaker 4>it with Sid physically, with Pilman getting the better of
<v Speaker 4>it and said, says something like you wait right here.
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to get something on my truck to take
<v Speaker 4>care of you. And he leaves and everyone is thinking
<v Speaker 4>he's getting a knife or a hammer or a gun,
<v Speaker 4>so they're all kind of nervous. But he comes back
<v Speaker 4>with a squeegee and act like it's a handgun, pointing
<v Speaker 4>it at people. Yep, everyone bursts into laughter, and he
<v Speaker 4>just turns around and leaves and not close to the
<v Speaker 4>accounts in the episode, and probably further from the truth
<v Speaker 4>than anything, but I was fun It's funny.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that idea.
<v Speaker 4>That the reason it was so ridiculous, and the reason said,
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to bring a squegee in. It's not because
<v Speaker 4>he thought a squegee would be menacing, but because he
<v Speaker 4>thought he could pass it off as a gun. Yes, right,
<v Speaker 4>And that's that's hilarious to picture Sid with a squege
<v Speaker 4>in his hand trying to convince people it's a gun.
<v Speaker 4>That's that's something said would definitely do. So, oh, he
<v Speaker 4>definitely would do that.
<v Speaker 2>Giro Vargas, thank you very much for the pledge. We
<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.
<v Speaker 4>Miley Ripley, thanks for the support. This is a great
<v Speaker 4>point by ar Ronaldi. I will kill you, sid to
<v Speaker 4>one of his best friends downtown.
<v Speaker 2>Bruno, I don't kill you. We were just talking about
<v Speaker 2>this guy wants you to look at me right now.
<v Speaker 2>I will fucking kill you. You know why, don't kill
<v Speaker 2>you because you're my friend. In the middle of the night,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna kill you in the same hotel room. You
<v Speaker 2>don't even know you can You won't even you won't
<v Speaker 2>even know. You can't sleep, can you? Bruno? I can't
<v Speaker 2>sleep either. Bruno won't sleep. Bruno can't sleep?
<v Speaker 3>Huh?
<v Speaker 2>What can't sleep? Bruno? Bruno? You sleep? I know you're not.
<v Speaker 2>I know you can't sleep because I can't sleep. I
<v Speaker 2>won't sleep. I don't sleep. Now, worn't bit of the pool. Now,
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do about her? Bruno? When you
<v Speaker 2>got going on down there? You're gonna do about the
<v Speaker 2>fact that I can't sleep. What are you gonna do
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that I'm not sleeping, Well, you gonna do.
<v Speaker 2>But the fact that I'm just gonna se in my
<v Speaker 2>bad I'm gonna watch you sleep. When you sleep, you're
<v Speaker 2>gonna feel my eyes burn in the back of your skull,
<v Speaker 2>and then you're gonna wake up, and you're gonna find
<v Speaker 2>out that I drove a hole in the back of
<v Speaker 2>your head and letting you bleed out and kill you. Bruno,
<v Speaker 2>when you wake up in the morning, you're gonna be dead.
<v Speaker 2>It's not there is a promise to guarantee. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>just gonna see you're watching. I'm gonna kill you. I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna kill you. I kill you, I kill you.
<v Speaker 4>Jeff has a great question. Can we get Vienna by
<v Speaker 4>Billy Joel and lap Sid's voice. That's when we haven't tried.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know Billy Joel had a song called Vienna.
<v Speaker 2>Now you do? And what do you do with that information?
<v Speaker 2>Is the question?
<v Speaker 7>Oh?
<v Speaker 2>That is that is always the thing. Although you won't
<v Speaker 2>be able to hear it though, but I and I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure I can read the lyrics. I don't know how
<v Speaker 2>it goes.
<v Speaker 5>So down.
<v Speaker 8>You're crazy child, You're so ambitious for a juvenile But
<v Speaker 8>then as you're so smart, tell me why you're still
<v Speaker 8>so afraid? Where's the fire? What's the hurry about? You
<v Speaker 8>better cool off before you burn it out. You got
<v Speaker 8>so much to do and only so many hours.
<v Speaker 2>In a day. Hey, but you know the woe that
<v Speaker 2>truth is told. You can get what you want or
<v Speaker 2>you can just get old. That's really good.
<v Speaker 8>You're gonna kick off before you even get halfway through
<v Speaker 8>when you realize.
<v Speaker 2>Waits for you. That's awesome.
<v Speaker 4>I like the using vienna like it's plural, like I
<v Speaker 4>have a vienna and I have vienna.
<v Speaker 2>You know, yes, right, if you have multiple vienna heard
<v Speaker 2>of this. Further to the squeegee story, Stephen writes, my
<v Speaker 2>favorite story around the squegee incident is a few days later,
<v Speaker 2>Sting and Cactus Jack had a no DQ match in
<v Speaker 2>a house show, and they did a spot where Cactus
<v Speaker 2>pulled out a squeegee and Stings started begging off like
<v Speaker 2>Cactus was holding a knife. That's great funny.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that this is from Lee and Mona
<v Speaker 4>Rogers and it's entitled and I think this is going
<v Speaker 4>to really hold some potential. Uh Sydney and the grocery
<v Speaker 4>store take it away, boss.
<v Speaker 2>And it's just hello, guys. I just have one story
<v Speaker 2>on the Master and Rule of the world. I live
<v Speaker 2>in Memphis, Tennessee. I've lived here my entire life and never,
<v Speaker 2>not one single time, had I ever met Lord Humongous.
<v Speaker 2>I have zero reasons to be at a softball field,
<v Speaker 2>so that eliminated one path. I love wrestling, I love
<v Speaker 2>love pro wrestling, but I never went to many shows.
<v Speaker 2>I never went to Channel five on Saturday mornings. No
<v Speaker 2>mid South Colisseum shows, no raws, no house shows. I
<v Speaker 2>only went to one WCW Nitro in October nineteen ninety six,
<v Speaker 2>and Psycho sid was on his way to Survivor Series
<v Speaker 2>ninety six. Fast forward to May twenty twenty. Dark times, gentlemen,
<v Speaker 2>Dark dark times. We all remember that period. I've worked
<v Speaker 2>retail most jobs most of my life, and during that
<v Speaker 2>time I worked at the fresh Market grocery store on
<v Speaker 2>Union Ab in Memphis, only a ten minute drive and
<v Speaker 2>you're crossing into Arkansas. So on a pretty chaotic day
<v Speaker 2>early in the pandemic, I was working alone, unloading the
<v Speaker 2>truck and stalking show else, probably listening to Pain on
<v Speaker 2>the Pacific. My closest friend, who worked there and bakery,
<v Speaker 2>knew I was a lifelong wrestling fan. She wasn't, but
<v Speaker 2>would tell me a wrestler would come in there every
<v Speaker 2>now and again and people would point him out. I
<v Speaker 2>had a hunch it wasn't Jerry Lawler. Don't picture King
<v Speaker 2>shopping there. Hello, well, I thought it could be said vicious,
<v Speaker 2>and on this day she ran over to me to
<v Speaker 2>tell me he was there, and it was Sid beauty
<v Speaker 2>or Raymond beauty. He was tall, he was noticed with thinner,
<v Speaker 2>still had the curly hair, was wearing blue, was wearing
<v Speaker 2>khaki pants rather a sweatshirt, and more importantly for me,
<v Speaker 2>at least, he was wearing a mask. We were at
<v Speaker 2>a pretty scary time with COVID, and most folks wore
<v Speaker 2>the mask. He carried his basket around and I watched
<v Speaker 2>him go to the meat counter, deli and bakery. Then
<v Speaker 2>he was in my section, which was the grocery side.
<v Speaker 2>I was doing my thing, and he came over and
<v Speaker 2>asked if we had mint jelly. Oh my god, he
<v Speaker 2>did not say that mint you got? I ask you
<v Speaker 2>something very simple. You got mint jelly for lamb chops.
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking vern didn't train, so all right, no shit,
<v Speaker 2>and guys, our shelves were basically empty. During this time,
<v Speaker 2>we had practically nothing. He then asked if we had
<v Speaker 2>hemp seeds. Another no. He really didn't look happy, and
<v Speaker 2>I thought about offering him the chance to power bomb
<v Speaker 2>me pillman style, but we were in a serious time.
<v Speaker 2>As he was checking out, I walked by just to
<v Speaker 2>show him an inventory, an order sheet that showed we
<v Speaker 2>put in orders for the hemp seed weeks prior and
<v Speaker 2>things just weren't coming. He mentioned he drove a good
<v Speaker 2>bit to get there, you know, for he's such a complainer.
<v Speaker 2>He complains on the WW tape having to show up. Yep,
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I don't want to show up here.
<v Speaker 2>He mentioned he drove a I said sorry. I gave
<v Speaker 2>him a ton of of friends and family coupons, and
<v Speaker 2>he seemed appreciative. I did tell him I was a
<v Speaker 2>lifelong fan of wrestling. He asked if I was a
<v Speaker 2>fan of his. Lol. He offered an autograph. You want
<v Speaker 2>autograph picture? I want to tell you what you want
<v Speaker 2>a picture? You gotta buy me one hundred and fifty cans.
<v Speaker 2>Cans by me, one hundred and fifty cans.
<v Speaker 5>I was.
<v Speaker 2>I was thirty four years old, so autographs weren't a
<v Speaker 2>huge priority of my life, but I graciously accepted. He
<v Speaker 2>saw my friend looking on and asked for her name.
<v Speaker 2>I said Mona. He signed it and playfully gave her
<v Speaker 2>grief for not having the desserts. He wanted, and then
<v Speaker 2>Mona was like, yeah, I really appreciate you and shop Mona,
<v Speaker 2>I want you to look me right in the eye.
<v Speaker 2>I want you to understand something. I'm a master and
<v Speaker 2>the ruler of the world, and you get me what
<v Speaker 2>I fucking want. We're the only one going to be
<v Speaker 2>Moana and Mona is you want to power bombinging through
<v Speaker 2>the earth? Ah? She keeps telling U. Mona and I
<v Speaker 2>recently got married and I told her about Sid's passing.
<v Speaker 2>She keeps telling me she has both of those autographs somewhere,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm positive those are long gone. I only saw
<v Speaker 2>Sid once and it was for about five minutes, and
<v Speaker 2>he was but he was a very polite man. He
<v Speaker 2>left the good impression on me, and even more importantly,
<v Speaker 2>he left a really good impression on the woman who
<v Speaker 2>became my wife. Thank you, Jack and JP for everything
<v Speaker 2>you guys do for the solar system. You mean a
<v Speaker 2>lot to us. All very very good.
<v Speaker 4>It's great, and we also want to thank a host
<v Speaker 4>of other folks. Let's let's let's really uh, let's really
<v Speaker 4>address this situation here because we have.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of pledges.
<v Speaker 9>Uh.
<v Speaker 4>We want to thank uh Davis, Drip and Daniel Maler
<v Speaker 4>and well dead inside failure Davis d Yeah, that was
<v Speaker 4>the name we got with a hyphen. Thank Matt for
<v Speaker 4>bumping that pledge way way up, Matt Linde, I think
<v Speaker 4>it is. Thank you so much, Knowe. Thanks very much
<v Speaker 4>for that ep level tier pledge. Todd Harding and David Googly, Emmy,
<v Speaker 4>I mean to thank Chris Cummins, who's coming all over
<v Speaker 4>the place with his pledge. Davelly, Thank you very much.
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Pope, we appreciate it. Damien Thorn, we love the support.
<v Speaker 4>Brendan Sours and Chay and Grand McClure and Edward Zieman
<v Speaker 4>and Kim Gridwood. You need to thank Brent Erickson and
<v Speaker 4>Darry Darry us Ntegi.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it is okay, Anthony.
<v Speaker 4>Rossi and Jay Hamilton and Jason Woodrum Ray as a party,
<v Speaker 4>Jason Hervey, it's a party. Ray, It's a party. Brother Peter,
<v Speaker 4>thank you very much. Welcome to the v VI P
<v Speaker 4>tr uh Ilia Gardanis. Thank you very much for your
<v Speaker 4>support and for in fact upping that pledge substantially in
<v Speaker 4>our I guess you could say our time of need.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.
<v Speaker 4>It's a good one from William Boss. I don't know
<v Speaker 4>if anyone has presented this idea before, but what about
<v Speaker 4>a t L F kfabe cookbook? Recipes from that cast
<v Speaker 4>sends recipes for venus, this is recipes for ribs, Bulldog's,
<v Speaker 4>recipes for crack. If Bob's Bob's Burgers can put one out?
<v Speaker 2>Did they? Yeah? They didn't. They did, know that? Do
<v Speaker 2>you like they?
<v Speaker 3>Well?
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was you know, it's it's yeah, they did.
<v Speaker 2>They put out a recipe book for me. You know,
<v Speaker 2>you don't actually know what he puts in the burgers
<v Speaker 2>because they don't actually, you know, they just named them.
<v Speaker 2>And then but what they did put out a cookbook delicious.
<v Speaker 2>I actually they're good. I made some, Oh did you actually?
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. I had a friend who had the cookbook,
<v Speaker 2>and I just took a bunch of photos of ones
<v Speaker 2>that that sounded good, and I made them. They're good, tasty.
<v Speaker 4>Hilliam salivating thinking about Vader's recipe for ripping the door
<v Speaker 4>off of Wendy's and splashing into the fry station. Sounds delicious. Okay, Now,
<v Speaker 4>so I'm just you know, to call that a recipe
<v Speaker 4>is pretty funny.
<v Speaker 2>Actually, see right, He's even freaking barged through the door,
<v Speaker 2>and people scatter. The first thing you want to do scattered,
<v Speaker 2>all right, first thing you gotta do is you get
<v Speaker 2>a hope. First. The first thing you gotta do is
<v Speaker 2>you get to find a double door. Wendy's that's the priority,
<v Speaker 2>all right. And then you push the doors through, and
<v Speaker 2>you he has he has techniques in the cookbook on
<v Speaker 2>how to push the doors exactly. And then everyone starts
<v Speaker 2>screaming and you and you have to come in saying,
<v Speaker 2>what are the food that makes that a recipe?
<v Speaker 3>What the food?
<v Speaker 2>Screaming? Everyone's you know, women are screaming, men are screaming,
<v Speaker 2>trying to get out of his way, and you just
<v Speaker 2>then you just you just thunder over to the fucking
<v Speaker 2>to the fucking register. You push the employee out of
<v Speaker 2>the way, and you go to the French fries and
<v Speaker 2>just you do you know, you do one of those
<v Speaker 2>like like you're sweeping your arms out. Okay, well, so yes,
<v Speaker 2>we should make one. Yeah, I guess. So that's the
<v Speaker 2>only thing I can think of as a proper response
<v Speaker 2>to that. Mmmm, that's the recipe of that.
<v Speaker 4>There's anybody out there who can help us put a
<v Speaker 4>book out I think we can talk.
<v Speaker 2>That'd be funny.