Hour 3 – Carson Palmer, Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 2: Final Hour in this Thursday. What a crowd, Weather's warming up, crowd's warming up. We're ready to go busy. Final Hour. Notre Dame in USC both represented. We'll talk to Carson Palmer, former USC quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner, and Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame's head coach, will join us here on our set. Baseball playoffs. Blue Jays rough up the Mariners thirteen to four. They play Game four tonight, Dodgers Brewers Game three, and Steelers and the Bengals. Steelers are favored by five and a half. Stat of the Day has always brought to you by panadi America, the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Sunday night, it's an NFC Showdown. It'll be b Jean Robinson and the Falcons taking on Christian McCaffrey and the Niners Primetime Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. Seaton Poll question for the final hour of the.

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Speaker 3: Program, Yeah, we got up there right now. Would you rather play football and Notre Dame or USC. Notre Dame is still barely leading this one ahead.

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Speaker 2: I think that says a lot.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame USC is a great place to live, obviously in an unbelievable program, but Notre Dame beating them out's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I think that the line is like eight eight points. Notre Dame over USC seems like a lot after what yous a lot like USC roughed up Michigan, although they got a tough schedule. They got Oregon coming up as well after this, but this is feels like an elimination game for Notre Dame. You have to win this game if you have any hopes of being in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Pauling and Notre Dame, they started really tough with their schedule, and I wouldn't say it eases up, but there's a lot of winnable games in the back half.

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Speaker 2: Since two thousand, Notre Dame is twenty two and seventeen against ranked teams at Notre Dame Stadium. We're sort of in the shadows of Notre Dame Stadium. Here a beautiful day, although weather could be an issue on Saturday. It looks like they're calling for rain as well. A seven seven three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. We welcome in the Heisman Trophy winner in two thousand and two and now the head coach at Santa Margarita Catholic just beat Modern day Carson Palmer on the program look at you, big successful head coach there. When I say Notre Dame, first thing that comes to mind is what.

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Speaker 5: Phenomenal memories? You know.

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Speaker 6: I was a Notre Dame recruit, really wanted to go to Notre Dame, went on a trip there, went on an official visit, went to a camp there, kind of fell in love with it, so it was a special place to me. And then at the end, just USC won my heart and got me. But we had some great battles against them, and obviously one of the best, one of the best, you know traditions in all of college football.

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Speaker 2: Wait, how do they win your heart?

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Speaker 5: There were Notre Dame you know, No.

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Speaker 2: How did USC when your heart or steal your heart?

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Speaker 6: Well, coach, you know the coaching staff. I got really close to the coaching staff. I was close to home.

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Speaker 5: I was only an hour an hour and a half.

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Speaker 6: Away, so I got a chance to spend some more time at sc on campus. I got to talk to a bunch of the guys that were part of that recruiting class, and just at the end of the day, I wanted to stay close to home where my family could watch me play.

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Speaker 2: Do you have to call certain coaches to say I'm not coming to your school?

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Speaker 5: I did. I did. That was tough.

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Speaker 6: That was that was That was the first kind of big boy moment of my life because I got you know, I got close to coaches throughout that process, and I remember when I had to I remember the day I had to call Rick new Heiseel.

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Speaker 5: Rick new Heisel was at University of Colorado. I loved Colorado.

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Speaker 6: I spent some time there as well, and Coach new Heiseel recruited me hard and often, and I had to I had to make that call. I had to let them know, and I could hear the disappointment in his voice. And so that is a part of it. That is a big part of it. I know, I feel like the public doesn't really understand that. They think, oh, whatever, everybody's up for grabs now. But you create these relationships, you create these connections. They come and watch you play, they come and watch you practice, you spend time with them and there is a real genuine connection and it's hard for these kids to have to do.

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Speaker 2: You got a wild recruiting story. You don't have to have any names, but.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. Rick new Heisel knew how to recruit. We had a blast at Colorado in one recruiting weekend. We went paintballing. We floated down the river and inner tubes and ended at a barbecue. He rented out a bar and let only the football recruits and girls from campus in.

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Speaker 2: We and you turned that down.

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Speaker 5: No, you couldn't turn any of it down. It was phenomenal. The food we ate.

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Speaker 6: You know, he was flying in lobsters from Maine and crab cakes from from Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: It was amazing. He knew how to recruit.

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Speaker 2: Dang, and you passed that up. Well, you probably got that at USC too, right.

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Speaker 5: It was pretty good at SCS.

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Speaker 2: Now you're a high school coach. I'm curious about the quarterbacking position and what is being taught, and it just feels like everybody's in shotgun and nobody's under center. And you know, we keep repeating these patterns, these habits. These guys are going to get to college and kind of get away with things or try to get away with things out of the shotgun. How does it work with your quarterbacks?

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Speaker 6: Well, we spend time in shotgun, but if you look at the college game, there's a lot of kids in the shotgun in college as well. We also spend a ton of time, especially in spring ball. We spent a majority of spring under center, just to learn it and understand it. But you know, we're running the same stuff that I was running in the NFL, the stuff that I was taught, and you know, all the plays and concept some reasons why you throw into this coverage and away from this coverage that I was taught from all the amazing coaches I was able to play for. So we're we're running an NFL style system. We're definitely in shotgun. We're under center a bit, but that's where the college game is. And you know, I don't think it's that much easier under center, because what people don't realize is or I'm sorry, in shotgun. What people don't realize is when you're in shotgun, you have to take your eyes off the defense. When you're under center, you get to see it all unfold, so you see the pre snap, you see the pre snap coverage and then you see the snap post snap coverage unfold after the snap as it's.

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Speaker 5: Developing, we're in shotgun.

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Speaker 6: It's hard because you got to look up, see the defense and then find that ball and then look up and the pictures a little bit different.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I don't I don't think it's a crutch.

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Speaker 6: I think it makes a little bit easier on the center quarterback exchange. But again, you still see it at the high school level and at the college level, snaps flying over guys heads and bouncing on the ground. So you know, we spend quite a bit of time in both, and I think you see a bunch of kids in college playing in the shotgun.

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Speaker 2: But I love under center, And I always go back to a conversation I have with Joe Montana. He said, you know, he sees shotgun, but he said, I loved under center because I'm getting the ball and everything is in real time, so as I'm moving, defense is moving. And he said it helped me kind of sync up when I was going to throw a pack, like I got in rhythm. It allowed me to get back in the pocket and then step up in the pocket and I think these quarterbacks now they're back in the pocket and then they either scramble right or left.

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Speaker 5: That's a big piece of it. Another big piece of it, too is the run game.

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Speaker 6: But when you're under center and you have a run to the right, and that's a bad look. There's too many guys on the defensive side on that side of the ball. When you're under center, you can throw the ball on these quick slants and quick hitches and get the ball in receiver's hands much quicker than you can from shotgun because it takes a minute from the ball to get from center to the shot.

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Speaker 5: So from the run game perspective, I think there's some advantages as well.

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Speaker 6: The quicker you get the ball in and out of your hands and in your playmaker's hands, the better.

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Speaker 5: So I think I think it goes both ways with the run and pass.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Carson Palmer, Heisman Trophy winner two thousand and two and College Football Hall of Famer. You got Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers in their forties. How's that possible in today's NFL in.

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Speaker 6: Some different color jerseys too, and some different looking helmets.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty amazing. I don't think, you know, in twenty you know, seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Any of us were thinking that Rogers will be wearing the black and gold and Flacco would be wearing the stripes. It just it doesn't you know, it doesn't feel right. But it also shows you, you know, where the game is and the development of these young quarterbacks. There's just not you know, there's not enough good young quarterbacks going around that the Bengals can't can't rely on somebody other than a Flacco, and the Steelers can't rely or develop somebody other than a Rogers. So I think it's you know, it's also a good illustration or where the state of the game is as far as quarterbacks and young quarterback play is.

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Speaker 2: But it still comes down to doing something from the pocket right.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day. You know, I've been asked this.

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Speaker 6: There's been so many great quarterbacks that have come into the game and been elite runners and great outside the pocket. At the end of the day, you still and in order to play late into December and into January, you still, in order to get there, you've got to be able to stand in the pocket and deliver the football accurately downfield when you're getting hit in the face. And I know it's fun to watch quarterbacks drop back and scramble and you know, run thirty five yards to get seven, you know, on third and six, and you see him flying all over the place.

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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, you look at what Tom Brady did and his accomplishments. He was standing in the pocket and delivering the ball accurately down the field when he was getting hit in the mouth.

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Speaker 2: But you see these quarterbacks now who have that first read and then they pass up the first read. It's almost like it's they now, I'm looking for something else. And then all of a sudden you scramble out of the pocket and you take away half the field when you do that. We've seen this with Caleb with you know, Cam like these young quarterbacks, as much talent as they have, you got away with that in high school and college. You can't get away with that in the pros.

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Speaker 5: Then you sound like me and all of our offensive meetings from.

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Speaker 6: Talking with our quarterbacks or receivers in my line, I say it to them over and over again, if you don't throw it, they won't cover it. We're talking about the flat, the quick out. Yeah, Well, if you don't throw the flat, they won't cover it. So when it's open, you got to take it. You can't go from your first read into your second read and then go oh no, shoot it's covered, and then go back to your first read. And so you know, you sound a lot like me. I'm preaching that every day in meetings. You know, we're seven weeks in in our season at Santa Margarita.

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Speaker 5: And I'm saying the same thing.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter if you're in the NFL, if you're in high school, if you're in fifth grade playing pee wee pop warner foot ball. It's so much more fun to throw the ball downfield. It's so much more fun to thread the needle. But what's effective is taking that first read and getting the ball out of your hands and making the defense all sprint over there, run and then have to get that guy on the ground.

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Speaker 2: What is that feeling like when you know you've got a receiver open and you know you're going to get crushed, but you have to stand there, take it, and then you're able to deliver that pass.

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Speaker 6: Either love it or you hate it, And I loved it. I kind of took that as a badge of honor. You know, nothing felt better than letting.

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Speaker 5: The ball go. And right when you let it go, you get crushed.

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Speaker 6: And then you feel that defender breathing down your neck, talking trash, and as.

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Speaker 5: You're getting up, you just say, oh they're moving the change, here we go.

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Speaker 6: So that that feeling and you know, those those aren't the ones that hurt. The ones that hurt are the ones that you're ready for and you're absorbing and you're trying to tense up, kind of like being in a crash. They say, you know, when when somebody's you know, drunk behind the wheel, they never ended up getting hurt in the crash because you don't you're not ready for it. It's much like that when you're when you're focused downfield and.

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Speaker 5: You're getting ready to let the ball rip and you throw it.

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Speaker 6: Your body isn't anticipating that contact, so you kind of just absorb it as opposed to tense up and fight it.

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Speaker 2: Is there one that stands out that maybe still hurts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You remember remember Sean big Baby Rogers University of Texas defensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was in he was in Cleveland, and I don't know how it happened.

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Speaker 6: It was the last game of the season. But he landed up, or he ended up. I was on my back and he sat on me. He fell from the sky, but first right on my chest. And to this day he dislocated my sternum from my rib cage. And to this day I still feel that big, big baby Sean Rodgers, phenomenal player, unreal player. I think he's in Detroit in Cleveland as well, but he in it right, and I just felt almost like a CPR when you get the CPR those compressions.

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Speaker 5: He did his compressions with all three seventy of himself.

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Speaker 2: Are you is your high school team? The fighting Margarita's like it's Santa Margarita. Okay, like you have like a cocktail. Eagles, the Eagles, Oh, the Eagles. Okay, say football, baby there it is, okay, all right, all right? Do you want to coach in college?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: But do you want to come and watch us play? Can you fly out and watch it? We've got Saint John Bosco at home homecoming. It's a big game for us. We're both too and oh in the training league. You should leave South Bend come out and cover the game. Friday night and then get back to South Bend on time for Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Let me see with Fritz.

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Speaker 2: Do we have make Can we get the corporate jet?

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Speaker 7: I want to make a couple of calls.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to think that we can do. He took time to be on the show. As you go support his team. I mean if I if I can get the corporate jet, I see no reason why I wouldn't go out and root for the fighting Margarita.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it, Fitz. Thanks man, I appreciate you all right.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a like are you a tough pep talk guy?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 2: How do you get your guys all fired up?

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Speaker 5: No? I'm not.

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Speaker 6: You know, I give a quick speech pre game, but you know the Hayes in the barn at that point, we spend a lot of time Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, getting getting our working, getting ourselves ready, getting ourselves battle.

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Speaker 2: Wait, but you don't use the haze in the barn like, yeah, that's old guy stuff like.

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Speaker 5: You know that just that's just for you.

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Speaker 2: For me being an older guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's wy I would never say that to a seventeen year old they would They look at me like I was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't need a ton of a ton of hype speeches. We got a very focused group, very intense. I give a little bit pregame, but these guys do a good job firing themselves up the fighting.

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Speaker 2: Margaritas. Great to talk to you, and thanks for joining us, Carson.

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Speaker 5: I'll see it them all night. Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: What times? What times?

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Speaker 7: Game time?

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Speaker 5: Seven pm pst.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good. All right, who's with me?

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Speaker 8: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I'm in high school football.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, Santa Margarita.

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Speaker 2: Santa Margarita eleven. Heck yeah, yeah, Well.

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Speaker 4: A cocktail walking around, assault on the rim sounds lovely.

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Speaker 2: Good for him being a high school coach giving back to the community. I love that modern day what I know that that was always a big day?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Didn't They had a bunch of what Barkley did? Liner go there as well? Yep, you know they always churn out some great players. All right, let's take a break. We'll talk to Marcus Freeman and we'll do so right after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: Pauli has this bad habit of whenever we have current or former football players on, he wants to know what it feels like to either be blocked or tackled by them. Last time we had Marcus Freeman. Marcus shows up and he says, you're the guy I hit last time, and and Paulie's sizing him up and he goes looks like coach has lost a little bit of weight there season We're not doing that.

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Speaker 8: I'm retired.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna put a so is he not going to put a helmet on? Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: The scariest part was it was a slow motion demonstration. Hey, I could hear. Oh, that's a slow motion.

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Speaker 2: He's Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame head coaches, fifth season and played, of course at Ohio State, the Ohio State drafted by the Bears, your Bears in the fifth round of two thousand and nine. As we make way for Marcus Freeman back on the program, Look at you.

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Speaker 8: How you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, you know. Nice to talk to a fellow Buckeye.

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Speaker 8: Here Ohio in Ohio and oh, I'm sorry. That's what we'll say around here.

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Speaker 2: How would you compare because it came down to Notre Dame in Ohio State for you, right, What was it about Ohio State that made you, even though you're from Ohio, but that you chose Ohio State over Notre Dame.

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Speaker 9: Really getting into this, huh, let's just get the tough questions out of the way and then we'll have the easy ones. I think they always come down to relationship. A lot of decisions, especially for young people, are about relationships. I just went through this with my son who committed to Cornell for wrestling, and as a parent, you have your reasons for why you make decisions, but young people still base a lot of their decisions off of relationships. And I think that was probably the eighteen year old Marcus Freeman that made that decision based off relationships.

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Speaker 2: Comparing contrast USC Notre Dame versus Ohio State Michigan.

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Speaker 9: Very similar if you're in one of the schools, right, if you're in it, so Notre Dame USC, when you're a part of this football program, there's nothing bigger than that rivalry. And I think the same thing is if you go to Ohio State or Michigan, you're from Ohio, there's probably nothing bigger than that rivalry.

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Speaker 8: And so.

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Speaker 9: For us when we talk about this, this rivalry verse USC the longest intersectional rivalry meaning interconference, right, and I mean I'm sorry, not interconference, but not in the same conference. And that's what makes it special. It's kind of the foundation of Notre Dame and the ability to go and say, hey, we'll play anywhere in the country. We don't have a conference, and that's how this program was built and That's why it means a lot.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's been going on for many years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but why is it in jeopardy?

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Speaker 8: Listen, I don't.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you want to talk about Ohio State.

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Speaker 9: Look, you know there's decisions that that institutions make based off conference you know, scheduling and things like that, and I know that's playing into some of the discussions that USC is having. I'm sure with our administration and higher ups. I'm sure you know, going back and forth on maybe little details.

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Speaker 8: I think, uh So, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You know, it feels like the USC it's tough for to throw in another great opponent when you're in the Big ten, when there's quality opponents and you know, you can't have three losses and be in the playoffs. Like, let's just look at the business side of this. It feels like USC means more to Notre Dame than Notre Dame means to us. Six.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know what we mean to them, but I know it means a lot to us.

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Speaker 9: It does the rivalry, the quality of opponent, the respect for the program. It is a it does mean a lot to this university and this football program, and we want to see it continue.

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Speaker 2: What was it like first time you took the field as the head coach at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 8: Man, it's a it's a blur. I know.

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Speaker 9: It was in Phoenix, Arizona, Scottsdale. We were playing Oregon No Oklahoma State in the Fiesta Bowl, and you don't know. What you don't know, you know, is adrenaline rush. You're running out there. I'm used to being a defensive coordinator, and then all of a sudden there was moments in a game like I got a call time.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, somebody called.

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Speaker 2: Time on to me, you know, And so all the things that you kind of weren't involved in, yeah, you're involved in.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and then now you have to be the one to make those decisions. And so you learn through experience. But that first one was a it was a blur.

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Speaker 2: But how important was it to make your debut in a bowl game as opposed to starting your career during the regular season. Did it matter?

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Speaker 8: You know? Did it matter?

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Speaker 9: I don't know what it would be like to not start a career, not in a bowl game, you know, So it's hard for me to.

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Speaker 8: Compare what that's like.

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Speaker 9: You know, we played Oklahoma State, we had time to get ready for that opponent. But you wanted to say, I mean, you had transition, you were a new head coach, you had some guys that didn't.

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Speaker 8: Play in the game. You had to you know who's playing.

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Speaker 9: It was a unique time and there's unique times and challenging times today, but I know in that moment, it was just a whirlwind of different things trying to figure this thing out.

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Speaker 2: But you're navigating and this is NIL and transfer portal and it's just not coaching football. Like if it was just coaching football, you'd probably have a saban would probably still be coaching, But you throw in all the other stuff here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you're leading a program. You have to be adaptable. You're not just yeah, as you said, a football coach. You're You're a person that wears many hats and you have to figure out what's important at that given time. And I think that's what leadership is is that if it's a recruiting hat, if it's an NIL hat, if it's a football hat that you got to wear all those different things. It's the ability to.

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Speaker 8: Put one on, take.

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Speaker 9: One off, and really focus on what needs to be what needs to have your focus at that given moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like practice or games are the best part of all of this because you're not worrying about all the other nonsense.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you enjoy that.

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Speaker 9: That's probably the time you really get to be a part of what attracted you to this profession, right, being around the players, leading them, but also football, Like you love the game of football, and you love the competition, and you know Saturday is a reflection of how you.

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Speaker 8: Practice, and so yeah, you enjoy that probably the most.

00:23:33
Speaker 2: We're talking to Marcus Freeman, a Notre Dame head coach and of course hosting US. See we had Brady Quinn on first hour. He said, your quarterback's best quarterback in the country.

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Speaker 8: He said that, Yeah, I appreciate it. Man, he would know. I mean, he's a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He says, he's played better than everybody, anybody, And he said, but he said, the tape doesn't lie. Now, I know he's your quarterback, but tell me how you got him and what did you think you got when you brought him in.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's a unique recruiting experience. Talking about the grandson of Lloyd Carr. I actually played in some games against Lloyd Carr and you know, you have his grandson that has interest in Notre Dame and it's real interest, and then you're you're able to grow a relationship and convincing. And he felt that this was the best place for him. And I knew at that moment he was different, right to a kid that grows up in ann Arbor, Michigan has legacies of Michigan ties, and to say I want to come to Notre Dame. That showed you he's a leader, he's he doesn't follow trends. And then you get him here, and we got him here for bowl practice. We're getting ready for I can't remember. I think it was two years. I can't remember who we're getting ready to play. But he comes in, he's supposed to be in high school and he starts practicing with us for a bowl game. And he was a scout team quarterback. And I'll never forget, like there was a.

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Speaker 2: Time so he graduated early from high school.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it was this new rule that if you graduated early, you could come and practice with a college team, but you couldn't participate in the bowl game. But I just remember it was one time he gets yelled at by our defense coordinator at the time for not throwing the ball maybe somewhere you're supposed to throw it.

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Speaker 8: And to see him.

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Speaker 9: Respond most kids would melt right and to see him respond and say yes, sir, next time and just go and go.

00:25:42
Speaker 8: And I mean, I was like, this kid should be in high school.

00:25:44
Speaker 9: He's different man. And now two years later, he has a unique Yes, he's.

00:25:50
Speaker 8: A really good quarterback.

00:25:51
Speaker 9: He's blessed with great skills, but he has a unique trait that not many people have. And that's that competitive spirit, that's that leadership mentality that he has.

00:25:59
Speaker 8: And he's pretty special.

00:26:02
Speaker 2: The schedule, I don't know if you had any say in the schedule to start the year. Did you have any say in playing Miami at Miami or I.

00:26:11
Speaker 9: Don't know when that game will scheduled, But I wouldn't have said no.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but those are two tough games right out of the right out of the gate. But can you have good losses? You ever had a good loss?

00:26:24
Speaker 8: No loss is a good loss. Losing is awful.

00:26:29
Speaker 9: But I always say be grateful for the pain of loss because that pain.

00:26:36
Speaker 8: Is there to help you grow.

00:26:37
Speaker 9: It's uncomfortable, It's no different than physically when you have a cut on your arm, you want to do things to stop the pain. Right, the same thing when you lose a game, the pain is there for you to learn from it, to get better and to make that pain go away. So I always it stinks to lose. Nobody wants to lose, especially if you're a competitor. But you have have to utilize that pain to help you grow. And so yeah, it's it's it's a good loss in that sense that the pain was there to help us get better.

00:27:09
Speaker 8: And uh, I believe we did.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: What do you remember about being drafted by the Bears.

00:27:16
Speaker 9: Uh, it was a lot. The weight was always I always tell our guys, the weight's going to be longer than you expect, all right, because you always hear a range of slots that you can go. And it was a long couple days for me. And and but when you get the call, it's that childhood dream. I got drafted to the NFL. And and then Lovey Smith was the head coach at the time, and uh they had Brian Urlacker and Lance Briggs and Jay Cutler was a quarterback. I mean you were living to dreaming and then you get there and you say, oh, this is a job. It's not not as much a dream.

00:27:51
Speaker 8: It's a job.

00:27:52
Speaker 9: And uh, it was a great experience, one that I'll cherish.

00:27:57
Speaker 8: And uh, but it was short.

00:27:59
Speaker 9: I wouldn't. I wouldn't I wasn't there for too long. But it was a great opportunity.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: But Blend, did you realize there was a difference between you and Brian Urlocker or Lancebrigg's playing linebacker.

00:28:10
Speaker 9: Well, when you see Brian Urlacker, you realize right away, like, oh, there's a big difference between.

00:28:14
Speaker 8: Us, you know.

00:28:16
Speaker 9: But the knowledge that they had so how fast they played the game because the knowledge they had clarity in terms of what was being asked of them. And that was a huge transition for me to learn a Tampa two defense something new.

00:28:31
Speaker 8: And to try to play fast.

00:28:33
Speaker 9: Like everybody you recruit. Here's how I use it in college. Everybody you recruit is really good in high school. Why because they're playing fast. They have clarity and what they're being asked to do. The guys that come here and can learn the playbook and what they're being asked to do and play with that clarity, the guys usually play earliest. And so that's probably what I realized, where anything is that, Hey man, those guys understand the ins and outs of everything they're being asked to do.

00:29:00
Speaker 2: Bring up something really interesting is we look at guys who are quick and fast, but if you know where you're going, you're even quicker and you're faster, right, And I think that that's underrated. Sometimes we go, boy, that guy's got God given ability. But if Erlocker knows I have to go there and I'm already fast to get there, I'm even faster, and that that's where they disrupt plays.

00:29:21
Speaker 9: On defense, we always we have a saying clarity equals velocity, and so the more clarity you have, the faster you're going to be able to play. And that's what we have to do as coaches is create clarity for our guys to go out there and play fast.

00:29:35
Speaker 2: How far is your office from here?

00:29:38
Speaker 8: A couple hundred yards?

00:29:39
Speaker 2: Okay, ye, not too far. What is it like? Did you ever walk this campus by yourself when you first got this job? Like you can't help but see history? Oh yeah, but I don't know how that it impacts me every time I walk this campus. Uh, but it's like West Point when you're there, I mean, you're a whole different world. Yeah, and there are very few campuses like that with this history. But I didn't know if you ever found yourself you're just walking the campus and really letting it sink in of where you are.

00:30:10
Speaker 8: I do it often. I still do it to this day.

00:30:14
Speaker 9: I remember when I came here, when I was looking at potentially being a defensive coordinator, and I was with my wife, and I remember saying, this is the most beautiful campus I've ever been on, and it.

00:30:24
Speaker 8: Was just perfect.

00:30:27
Speaker 11: Right.

00:30:27
Speaker 9: It's a hard way to describe it, but I still do it to this day. I run on campus. I'll walk early in the morning and sometimes go by the Golden Dome, and it's a reminder of the gratitude that you have for this place, the history of this place, the people that have come before you. And I think for me, it's the responsibility to continue to make it better, to elevate it and a it's a great responsibility, but a great reminder as you look around this place.

00:30:56
Speaker 2: Did you cry when you got the head coaching? John?

00:30:59
Speaker 8: No, I didn't. That doesn't mean I wasn't emotional.

00:31:04
Speaker 2: Your players were emotional.

00:31:05
Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: I mean it's a great video. That video is wonderful but it's a testament to you. It's a testament to they got the right guy.

00:31:17
Speaker 8: I hope, So, I hope, I hope. You know, I don't you know.

00:31:22
Speaker 9: I look at that moment and I was just as excited to go greet them as the video showed they were to greet me. I think it's it's a reflection of a group of players and a coach that have either earned trust or choose to trust each other, right, Like they trusted me to be the head coach, and I trust that I'm going to help them reach their goals, and so we're in this together. Like that's how I view this thing, right that that, Yeah, you're the head coach. You have to lead, you have to have the vision and the plan and the process. But we're in this together. We succeed together, and we have difficult moments. We have those together and we all have to own it.

00:32:15
Speaker 2: Good luck on Saturday. I appreciate it to talk to you again.

00:32:18
Speaker 8: Appreciate It's always do you want to hit Paul?

00:32:20
Speaker 2: Do you want to hit PAULI again, it's your your home. Get tempting, you know, it's very tempting. When's the last time you hit somebody? I can practice.

00:32:32
Speaker 8: Do you ever know I used to?

00:32:34
Speaker 9: You did well my years Demon's coordinator Probably was the last time I put on the little little chest pad and let them hit me.

00:32:41
Speaker 8: They you know, they would try to go a little bit extra.

00:32:45
Speaker 9: But you know, with with with four boys at home sometimes you you know, there's wrestlers, there's football players.

00:32:52
Speaker 8: We have some pretty good matchups.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: You don't want to mess with the wrestlers. You don't want to mess with the wrestler.

00:32:57
Speaker 9: I don't mess with the eighteen year old. But the twelve of the ten and a six year old.

00:33:01
Speaker 8: Still take them? Yeah, I can still take them.

00:33:03
Speaker 2: He's Marcus Freeman. We'll come back after this Stan Patrick show.

00:33:11
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00:33:31
Speaker 2: Alrighty, last call for phone calls. What we learned once in store tomorrow we had burgers over there? What else did we have on the menu from Heartland steak?

00:33:42
Speaker 8: Huge?

00:33:42
Speaker 2: Poor tenor lines? Three ways? Okay? Thrice? Who is it better than we do? No?

00:33:50
Speaker 3: That doesn't go over well here? Why well that those people up North. Oh, Jim Harbor, they kind of did that too.

00:33:59
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but he's not up North, he's not in Michigan.

00:34:03
Speaker 8: Yeah, but it takes a while to get that off you. You know, are you.

00:34:08
Speaker 2: Bothered by Jim Harbaugh saying who has it better than we do?

00:34:13
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:34:15
Speaker 2: Now you're supposed to say nobody. They said yes, they are bothered. Okay, yeah, okay, Yeah.

00:34:20
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of college football fans that are happy Harball's in the pros. You know, they're perfectly fine with the situation.

00:34:25
Speaker 2: Now, all right, last golf for phone calls? What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? By the way, I just got this from Fritzy. Let's see, Mike Golick Senior is going to join us, and Jerome Bettis's going to join us as well. So busy show here. Beautiful day, beautiful day. I wish the game is played today. And Marvin, you did well. Marvin ran into somebody. Her name is Shelby, and Marvin, of course, was cozying up to her so we could get a discount at the at the bookstore.

00:34:56
Speaker 8: Smart.

00:34:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. Next thing I know, it comes back with his We're just Notre Dame sweatshirt there he got twenty percent off. Didn't you got a hat.

00:35:04
Speaker 7: The full twenty percent off too? I saw this hat on hatland Dock hatclub dot com.

00:35:10
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, let me grab that.

00:35:12
Speaker 7: Marvin. You didn't go to Notre Dame. My wife says, thank you. I know that, but I'm going to Notre Dame. So when in Rome, No, you were at Notre Dame. Yeah, and we spoke at Notre Dame. So look, we're kind of like we' kind my faculty.

00:35:22
Speaker 8: Now.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: By the way, that bookstore that is you can get lost in there. It's ongoing, like it's hard to go. Okay, I'm just gonna get one thing, but I know Paulie is going to get the same sweatshirt tomorrow or no, right after the show.

00:35:35
Speaker 4: I think today seen Fritzie and I are doing the pilgrimage order the big bookstore.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: I did tell Marcus Freeman. I said, do you recognize what Fritzy's got on? And he goes, no, I said, that's Brian Kelly's. He goes what I said, yeah, Brian Kelly. When he left Notre Dame. We said, what are you doing with all your gear? And he goes, I don't know I said, why don't you send it? So we got this big box of Brian Kelly Notre Dame gear and this.

00:35:58
Speaker 10: Stuff would be a nightgown on him, but me, I could squeeze it too.

00:36:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said, I can't wear that, but Todd Todd does.

00:36:03
Speaker 7: Okay, we established.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you and Brian Kelly are similar in size.

00:36:09
Speaker 7: Fair enough?

00:36:10
Speaker 8: Yeah, stock them sports.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: Final final results of the poll question Seaton.

00:36:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got up there. Where would you rather play football? USC or Notre Dame? Notre Dame is still about fifty two percent.

00:36:25
Speaker 2: Of the vote right there. It's I've been pretty close all day. I had a couple of phone calls here before we exit stage left. Jeff in Los Angeles, Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today?

00:36:34
Speaker 12: What's upp? I mean six three and a stopping two thirty five. So with with Carson Palmer on, this reminds me. You know, back when he was in high school at Santa Margarita, he was also on the basketball team and they used to hold the CIF Outhern in Spection Championships at the Pond in Anaheim now now the Haunt Center, right, So we saw him play at the senior he was starting shooting shooting guard for Santa Margarita. They won the f T second championship for their division. However, the other players we saw that day Baron Davis for cross Roads High School, Tyson Chandler and on the same team at Demingas High Jason Capono at ar Tija High School, Kasey Jacobson Glendora, and Josh Childress at Mayfair High School. All of the staff and jack section that day so pretty wild and.

00:37:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you, thank you for opening up your scrap book there.

00:37:42
Speaker 7: Bob, Deshaun Stevenson went the got to move it along and I was.

00:37:47
Speaker 2: In the four H club.

00:37:48
Speaker 8: I didn't know if I told you that.

00:37:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barbin Wisconsin joins us. Good morning, Barb, what's on your mind?

00:37:54
Speaker 13: Good morning, first time, long time. I'm calling just because I need to defend Fritzy. This morning, I was walking I was listened to in the morning when I'm exercising and working out, and I did not hear the car that drove in. But Todd's comment that just because the car is loud can be very annoying, I totally one agree, having grown up with muscle cars. Being a woman who enjoys A good muscle.

00:38:25
Speaker 11: Car has a nice sounding. A car has to have that sweet, sweet, deep rumble that you feel in your blood, and then it's a sexy car.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: Okay, So did you like the car that was here in South Bend making the noise?

00:38:44
Speaker 13: I couldn't hear it. I listened to you on Sirius as I'm working out, and so I didn't hear it.

00:38:51
Speaker 2: Okay, but Todd didn't like the car in the rumble.

00:38:54
Speaker 7: There was less of a smooth rumble to me. It was more of a like, you better go get that checked out. There's something you know so little about cars. Look at me, look at me as someone that needs attention.

00:39:06
Speaker 2: I could respect that, but still we don't need to hear that.

00:39:08
Speaker 7: While we're doing the show. He's making circles so we can all check out his red sports car.

00:39:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Barb is talking about the rumble of the car and how sexy that is.

00:39:15
Speaker 7: Right, But there's two kinds that. What I heard was not like a smooth rumble.

00:39:19
Speaker 2: That was a check me out.

00:39:21
Speaker 8: Look at me, look at me, look at me.

00:39:22
Speaker 2: I'm overcompensating. What's sounds sexier, Barb? That what Fritzy did is impersonation. Or the rumble of a car, a great engine and muffler.

00:39:32
Speaker 13: Well, there are a lot of guys who, I agree, are trying to overcompensate and think that a real loud, noisy car is all it takes. And I'm just saying that's not what it is. It's got to be that deep rumble. And I'm sorry I just couldn't hear that one today.

00:39:53
Speaker 2: How about my voice, Barb, is there a deep rumble? There?

00:39:57
Speaker 11: You have an amazingly sweet deep rumb Dan, And what's it do to you?

00:40:05
Speaker 13: It makes me feel very good?

00:40:08
Speaker 2: Great, thank you, barr. Let's let's keep this dec Yes, you guys need goodness.

00:40:15
Speaker 7: Deep rumbled Danny.

00:40:16
Speaker 2: Wait are we on the air? We are blacked out there? Notre Dame? Yeah? Yeah, bar thank you? Uh I would, Marvin. I'm just saying that it's magic. I mean, I hear you. DoD gave you this to.

00:40:34
Speaker 7: Me, Deep rumbled Danny?

00:40:35
Speaker 2: I had that was my nickname in high school?

00:40:39
Speaker 8: Was it? Though?

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Deep rumbled Danny?

00:40:41
Speaker 10: Was it?

00:40:41
Speaker 5: What?

00:40:42
Speaker 7: I don't need to fish for complements. Just let her say I really liked your bug. What do you think of my voice?

00:40:46
Speaker 2: But she didn't say that. Todd Todd. She didn't say that. I had to offer that up. Maybe she was nervous of saying that because then it would feel forward. I tried to help her. I think they're over thinking thank you, Todd. How about we go around the room see if we anything on the program?

00:41:01
Speaker 1: Todd?

00:41:01
Speaker 2: You learn anything I did?

00:41:02
Speaker 10: It's a little rude when you thank a call, if you opening up their scrap book with their long widded stories, slily rude.

00:41:07
Speaker 7: You don't mean to be, but.

00:41:08
Speaker 10: It's like it's like when I say something to you and you're like, thank you, tip.

00:41:11
Speaker 7: Or did you move on to a call?

00:41:13
Speaker 2: Seating like that? What did you learn to a dog?

00:41:18
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:41:18
Speaker 2: I know she was great. I like her, Paul, What did you learn today?

00:41:22
Speaker 4: Hanna Hidalgo nicely wants to rip her opponent's.

00:41:24
Speaker 2: Heart out, Marvin, What did you learn today?

00:41:26
Speaker 7: Rick newhiz and knows how to recruit?

00:41:29
Speaker 2: Hey he does? That sounds like a hard thing to turn down at Colorado? What did I learn, Todd?

00:41:33
Speaker 8: I'm going, Hannahidago.

00:41:34
Speaker 10: Also, she didn't meet him yet, but she watched a lot of Kyrie irving growing.

00:41:37
Speaker 2: Up, still driving that trusty old ride, maybe with a loud muffler. Keep it looking sharp with Mako from dens Dings faded paint. They got you covered. Get a free estimate today, Oh, better get Mako. Thanks for joining us, our pleasure to serve you for Fritzie's seat, and Marv Paulie yours truly, we'll talk to you tomorrow