Hour 2 – College Football Coaching, Charles Barkley

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Speaker 3: Yes, it would be Hermione that he's dressed up.

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Speaker 2: HERMIONI yes, MIONI Hermione, Okay. And what was Hermione's role in Harry Potter? She was the what's her name? Emma Watson?

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Speaker 3: Okay, and the little girl went on to be very famous off those movies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, something Levo saw.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that was always her thing.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: She always spoke very clearly in those Did you guys see Harry Potter movies or read the books? Marvin?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seen one?

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Speaker 2: Okay, see seeing them all? Did you read the books?

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Speaker 3: No, but my wife and son did, so I count that as yes, Todd Harry Potter.

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Speaker 4: I saw parts of one. I didn't stay with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think. I might have seen a little bit of snippet. And I know that my kids delved into those books, and some of my kids reread those. I think my son reread those a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: We want me to give you the essential plot line of every single one.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell me how it ends? Harry wins? What's he win? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If they save the school, I guess from the main bad guy. Basically, in every single movie, Harry Potter is this kid. Everyone there's this bad these bad people trying to kill him because he's the most powerful wizard. Harry Potter is Harry. Doesn't this actually do anything. All of his friends do all the work. They are the ones that save the day. Harry gets all the credit every single that's eight straight movies or whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: His friends do everything and they're like, but it's you Harry. Okay, what's better? Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter? Come on, now, I didn't see Lord of the Rings either.

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Speaker 5: What.

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Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings? No, Marvin, did you see Lord of the Rings?

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Speaker 4: I saw the one I needed to see the third one?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and does does he who is Lord of the Rings?

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Speaker 3: Frodo of Frodo and Bilbo Baggins they throw the ring Rudy.

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Speaker 2: That's same wise Gangee. Okay, yeah, so he was Rudy in the documentary on Notre Dame football. Yeah, okay, well, thank you so good.

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Speaker 3: Even just the way they're shot, just the way they look, they're epic, the biggest movie you could possibly imagine.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it takes me ten years usually to come around to something. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were pretty good, but I get I definitely get Lord of the Rings, though you get lost. It's a little too heavy obviously, in like the fantasy things. So if that's not your you know, knights and goblins and stuff, you're really gonna hate it.

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Speaker 2: But I don't like scary movies. I don't like. I mean, there's quite a few of them that I just don't like. The genre.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I just watched last night. I watched this movie called Weapons just came out this year. Holy crap, that was a crazy movie. If you like horror movies, it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like horror movies. I mean I like to get Out. I thought it was pretty awesome. Yeah, that was different. And Jordan Poole is brilliant at the But I don't do scary, yes, Mark anything you like suspense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, gimme a Liam Neeson, give me born identity and like, yeah, I'm good with those things.

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Speaker 4: Or like the sixth ens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a one off there. But I'm talking about, you know, a series of movies like Twilight. I did not see Twilight.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen what's the other one that's like twilight'scept different Hunger games? You've seen Hunger I saw about thirty minutes. Other games are good. I've seen all those. Those are good movies.

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Speaker 2: And when she came on the screen, like you want to talk about making a star presence, what's her name, Jennifer Lawrence. She looked, you know, striking and played the role of hero very well. Yes, she did. Alrighty, So the Ravens went the big win over the Dolphins. Let me see, oh the meat Friday, grilled Ribbi's strips, Filet mignon, lobster tales, and we have c scallops with pumpkin risotto, all meat and seafood courtesy of Heartland State Company. Who has it better than we do?

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Speaker 4: No body?

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Speaker 2: Alrighty. Poll question for hour two is going to be what Charles Barkley in about fifteen minutes from.

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Speaker 3: Now, Let's see Lamar Jackson running less is a good thing or a bad thing? Sixty nine percent of the audience say that is a good thing. The Dolphins, according to our audience, need a completely fresh start to start over. Burn it all down, remailed damn. That seems excessive to me. And that's about sixty percent of the vote too. And this is the snarky one from Paul. Which job would you want? The LSU head football coach, LSU AD or the governor of Louisiana. Right now, LSU head football coach is barely beating out governor of Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Well, two of those positions are open right now. As Scott Woodward, the athletic director, got well, I don't know if he got five, but he they parted ways they school, so they don't have a coach head coach. They have an interim coach, I guess, an interim athletic director and a full time governor.

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Speaker 3: Yes see, I feel like if that person who, according to the way people are talking about the governor is the LSU eighty's boss. Somehow, I feel like if your boss humiliates you like that in a press conference about food benefits, I would quit. I would be like, you know what, I think, I'm good, I'll see you later.

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Speaker 2: I would like to know what my buyout is, though, I'm guessing he has a contract, and here he is the governor's upset that the athletic director gave, you know, Brian Kelly this huge contract. Now there's a buyout here. Now is there a buyout with the athletic director as well?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Tod, you sign up for a certain amount of criticism when you're in the public eye, and I get that. And if the win loss record doesn't match up or whatever. But imagine any other job where someone nationally just gets in front like Seten was saying, and say, we just want to let everyone know Brian will never ever give the presentation to the Board of Directors.

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Speaker 1: For this meeting.

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Speaker 2: Never, he's the worst.

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Speaker 6: He screwed it up at the previous company, and he's never gonna be able to speak publicly in front of a group of our officers.

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Speaker 4: Ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rough. That's rough because I'm guessing the athletic director had no idea the governor was going to be asked anything about football, or if he was, was going to go off on the athletic director. And you realize that it's almost like the governor wanted to be asked a question about the football team, and then he unloaded. You know, Hey, I'm fine with Brian Kelly, but we want to get that buyout reduced a little bit here, something friendly here, And that athletic director is not involved in the coaching search. So imagine you're the athletic director and all of a sudden, if you're even watching it live, and you're going, oh, oh my god, you know what, let me call home, Hun, I think we're done here at LSU, And now they're you know, Nick Saban said, now check this. I want to make sure I got it right. But I think Nick Saban said the old miss job is better than the LSU and the Florida job. I think he said that today or maybe yesterday, because it feels like Lane Kiffin. You know, maybe it's not LSU now because the governor that would scare me, and then you want to go to Florida. Lane's not going to end up at Penn State. Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 7: Do you think because nine wins that Old Miss will suffice as opposed to Florida and LSU where they expect the national championships.

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Speaker 2: Well, at some point Florida goes, hey, we're like nine, we need more than that. Now. Are they expecting a national championship? Hope not. But if you get into the playoffs, as long as you're in, like you get included in that, you know, twelve team bunch. I mean, that's what you want is a fan base. We got in and I think Lane Kiffin is a good enough coach to get them nine wins every year. I think he's that good. I hope he doesn't jump to take another job, but he's Lane and you never know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Pauline nick Sabin did an interview yesterday with On three Sports. He was asked what's the best move for Lane Kiffin. He said, jobs that weren't great jobs before are now? Lane is the first name up for Florida, first name up for LSU. He went on to say that back in the day, you go to those places like LSH or Florida because the roster was better. He said, that's not necessarily the case right now, that you're going to a better roster. LSU's roster might be equal or better. Yeah, which means for Lane, staying is better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you could give him a couple more million dollars, you know, bump him up to eleven million dollars, put him up here with him on the highest paid coaches. I think he's out of the top ten right now, top paid coaches, but he's a great coach. Matt Rule is staying at Nebraska. He got an extension, and I guess there was there was talk initially when James Franklin got fired, well, Matt Rule will be on the short list because he's a Penn State guy, friends with the athletic director. But I think that's where you got to draw the line. Don't hire somebody you got a fire and if you're going to bring in Matt Ruhle, what I was told by my college football source is hasn't really proven anything at Nebraska. What makes you think that he's going to be able to do that on a bigger stage? You know, because Nebraska right now just wants to be relevant. Nebraska used to be back in the seventies when you had coach Osbourne there. But you know, they kind of had spurts. They've had little you know, season here, season there, player here, player there. But they used to get all the offensive linemen. They'd get a great running back and you'd have an option quarterback there. And he had Tom Osbourne there and their big game was Oklahoma every year. Well, college football has changed. Are you going to Nebraska? Back then you were playing for a national championship? Now, hey you're in the Big ten kind of hey, come on out. You know, with these kids nowadays, they don't care what happened in the seventies. They care about what's happening now. Who do we play? How much do I get paid? What do the uniforms look like? Has that coach coached in the pros? What's my pipe? I mean, this is what every one of those guys thinks of. But Nebraska, with Matt Ruhle, you just want to be relevant and maybe they're relevant ish, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: From twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three, Nebraska didn't have one winning season or one bowl appearance.

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Speaker 2: That's how bad it was.

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Speaker 5: At least Matt Ruhle had them seven and six last year, six and two this year. It feels better than it is, but it feels better.

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Speaker 2: But he could have lost to Northwest, and I wonder if he gets that contract extension. If you just lose to Northwestern, you got USC coming up this weekend. Was that close, So Matt rule is not going anywhere, at least for a year, and LSU their job search is still open for business. USC, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Vandy, Texas, Penn State, and Ohio State. That's probably one of those when you're saying, hey, I got tickets, what game you got pay Penn State when they come to town, and you're like, maybe this isn't an appointment game the way we thought it was going to be. Let's see anything most must win game of the weekend, We'll have that for you as well. Fritzy has Rime Time coming up a little later on, and of course is much anticipated Halloween sports names as well, what are we changing up any poll questions here for the second hour? There? Seaton?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just added another one here that Paul just sent over, who or whom do you believe in more?

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, you want to guess what the buyout is for the athletic director at LSU thirty five thousand dollars? All right? Paul three point five million, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: Two point eight million, Todd one point five million, six point three million.

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Speaker 2: It's like a coach buyout. What sources close to me tell me Scott Woodward gets six point three million to leave?

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Speaker 4: Fully, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: I'm applying, yes, six point three million dollars. What the heck? Dude? Yeah? Uh so do we have a poll question that we're going to add here?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Who do you believe in more? The three and five Ravens or the seven and one Colts? Day?

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Speaker 2: Dang, I'll tell you the other team that's coming that the Texans. I think the Texans are coming. They're three and five as well. They got the Broncos and they're hosting the Broncos.

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Speaker 6: They gotta stop coming week ten.

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Speaker 2: I'm just good. I'm telling you I think the Texans here they come, got to wait one week. Yeah, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: The Texans are three and four, but they've outscored their opponents by fifty points. They everyone kind of that's another September. Everyone jumped off the bandwagon and stopped paying attention to him.

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Speaker 2: And it's a really good defense. And I think the over under is forty points in that game Denver against the Texans. But the Texans are coming. It's over the Ravens, so is Charles Barkley. We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 2: Icon coming away. More phone calls coming up eight seven to seven three DP show Charles Barkley, Hall of Famer Inside the NBA on ESPN. Are you an ESPN employee? Do you get invited to the Christmas party?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't know they had a Christmas party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a big one. Now I don't know. You have to go to Bristol, Connecticut, open bar I mean, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, you know, I was talking to Matt Barry and Michael Eves. I've actually never been to the ESPN studio. I want to do that before our relationship started, and I just got busy playing golf every day this summer. But it looks amazing on television the campus. So but no, I haven't got invited to the Christmas party, but I do want to go see I talked to Matt barr and Michael Leeds and my girl al Duncan. At some point, I want to get to see that studio on an off day. Not that I want to work or anything. I just want to go see.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how is your schedule? If you go there, they're gonna put you to work.

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Speaker 4: Well that's why I'm gonna go doing the summer. Well, I can just it.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing going on except football every day. I'm gonna make sure there's no basketball or anything going on.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you go in that building, you're going to be on ESPN News or two or NFL Live or you know.

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Speaker 7: I'm brushing up. I'm brushing up in my Spanish so I can do this. I got to get ready for I got to get ready for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You guys haven't missed a step though. It seems like, you know, gangs all back together, and now has your approach to the NBA changed at all since you're now on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: No, it's been great.

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Speaker 7: You know the guys at the ESPN Dan I said this, and I wasn't kissing anybody. Ass. You know, I ain't gonna kiss nobody as that's the best thing about have in mind. I don't have to listen to anybody. It's an honor and privilege to work for ESPN because every kid grew up wanted to be on SPN. They did, like every kid who's ever touched any type of ball. If they're being honest, if you go on ESPN, you feel like you've made it, So it's the honor to work for him. And we've only did three shows and they've been great. They left us alone. You know, the only thing is that strucked about it is in Game one on NBC we had a great double overtime game, which was awesome. Then the next night we had Winby go crazy. We had Steff go crazy for us, and we didn't even get to talk about that because of this gambling BS and that was the only downer. But other than that, it's been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Now. I know you guys talked a little bit about it, But what bothers you the most about this investigation, whether it's the poker games or prop bets or you know, did anything stand out that would would alarm you a little bit more? Being a former player now an analyst.

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Speaker 4: Well, it all alarms me first and foremost.

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Speaker 7: Number one, if you're rigging poker games, especially some of the guys are your friends, that's a bad thing. But obviously when players are out here points shaving basically what it is. You know, you can come up with prop bets or gamble that lesson. Man, if you're out here shaving points, that's just bad.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've all.

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Speaker 7: Then we've all been so blessed to make We make more money in one month than most people are going to make the entire lifetime. And all you got to do is play basketball. You we're the luckiest people in the world. I say this about sports man. I love sports, but we are so lucky and blessed. We get to do something so stupid and we make more money.

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Speaker 4: Think about it. Then we most of us, get paid back.

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Speaker 7: Then you get paid twice a month, and you make more money during that period than most people are gonna make in their lifetime. The mone of these guys are making today and to do something hopefully, like I said, I'm hoping all these allegations are not true. But if you did something that stupid, it's just it's just it's just stupid, plain and simple.

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Speaker 2: Do you get in these poker games that are held outside of a casino.

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Speaker 7: I'm not a poker guy. First of all, I would never gamble at somebody house. I'm not gonna lie, not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Unless it's your house. Charles froze up there, me.

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Speaker 1: Get me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah now, yeah, you froze up again.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. I don't believe in gambling at people. Houses and I and I I don't go to casino. You know, I gambled a lot, but I don't play poker. But no, I don't go to people house and gamble dan and nobody's coming to my house to gamble e though.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Charles Barkley NBA on ESPN, I almost said, TNT.

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Speaker 4: It's been weird. Ernie, Ernie screwed it. He said he only did it one time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I knew that was gonna happen, but he only did it one time in three shows, So it's been pretty good.

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Speaker 2: If Austin Reeves was the let's say that Luca and Lebron weren't on the Lakers and it was Austin Reeves team. Are these numbers sustainable for a player like that?

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Speaker 4: Impossible? Because he could get.

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Speaker 2: Yeh, froze up again. You know what, Chuck will take a break. We'll see if we can get a better connection there. He froze up a couple of times there. All right, let me take a break. We'll come back with Charles Barkley after this.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's try it again. Charles Barkley inside the NBA on ESPN. When I last spoke to you, I asked if Austin Reeves could he be the number one guy? Could he put up these numbers on a team?

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Speaker 4: No, because they're gonna make adjustments.

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Speaker 2: They He froze up again.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, is it, Dan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, you're good now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, teams are gonna start making adjustments, so his forty gonna come down to twenty five or more, you know, cause I don't think he's that type of guy who's gonna get forty a night or right now. He's got like a triple yellow caution, like can shoot anytime he wants to. But as teams are adjusts, they're going to make adjustments on him. He's a really good player, but also to go out there and get for tonight is really hard. I mean, well, because nobody's ever done it. I mean, I mean, nobody's ever averaged forty points in the NBA other than probably Will Chamberlain back in the day. But teams are going to make adjustment to make him pass the ball more, which he's comfortable with, But he's a health of a player.

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Speaker 2: Is there any basketball player's future you would trade for Victor winmbin Yama's future.

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Speaker 7: Well, the only question about Victory is health. There's never I mean, there's never been a question about him playing. It's just can he stay healthy? You know these guys who have these very unique bodies. I mean, and he probably got the most unique body we've ever seen in the NBA, other than Shaquille. Like Shaquille when we me and Kevin McKay, we'll talk about it. When the first time we saw Shaquille O'Neill, we couldn't believe how big an athletic he was.

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Speaker 4: He's probably and I met Will but I never got to see him play.

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Speaker 7: But Shaquille had the most unique body I've ever seen in the NBA because how big and strong and fast than he was. But Victor's different because you look at Minute Bowl, Jeorge Morrison, Mark Eden, guys who are like seven three seventy four, they didn't have this type of athletic ability. They couldn't shoot threes and dribbling things like that. So he's probably the most unique player we've had in the NBA. And we never had anything like him.

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Speaker 2: If Ralph Samson was playing today, Ralph Samson could be maybe a Winbin Yama kind of player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Ralph never had the dribbling skills.

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Speaker 2: Well, they didn't let him. Now they're saying to a big guy, we want you to handle the ball, shoot the threes.

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Speaker 4: First of all, my noe, I forgot the.

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Speaker 2: Todd Why don't we see if we get Charles just on the phone here because I don't frozen. No, there you are again. Let me try it one more time and then if not, well we'll just we'll try another another day.

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Speaker 7: So if Reph Sampson played in the NBA today, would he be compared with the Victor only if he was able to dribble and shoot threes like Victor does. But Victor is the most unique player we've had in the NBA since your quill.

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Speaker 2: Can you see where Steph Curry would be the second option on the Warriors a couple of years from now that that would extend his career, but he might not be the number one guy.

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Speaker 7: Well, they would have to bring in a big time free agent. I think right now they're stuck with the team they have. The only question is Victor Kaminga.

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Speaker 4: Is that his name?

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Speaker 2: Victor Kaminga, Jonathan Kaminga.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Cominga. Excuse me?

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Speaker 7: So he's the only he's the wild card because we've seen how far that team can go with Draymond and Jeremy Butler their first round team.

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Speaker 4: The only question is can Jonathan Kaminga take the next step?

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Speaker 7: Because in the West, you're gonna have to be OKC, you're gonna have to be Houston, You're gonna have to beat the joker. So can he grow enough to get them past the second round of the playoffs. That's the only question with the Warriors because Steph is clearly he's on the down side of his career. You can't expect him to play like he did that game last week in June. I mean, that's just physically impossible because everybody's fresh right now, Dan, everybody's fresh. But you can't expect a thirty seven year old to go to November, December, January averaging thirty five points a game.

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Speaker 4: That's just not gonna happen, and get through three or four rounds in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, in his interview with Mike Tarko, was talking about load management back in the day, you guys took great pride in playing every single game. How do you think today's player will react to what Michael Jordan said about load management?

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, we don't care what they think. Dan, men and you have discussed loads of manager on this show for years. It sucks load management. These guys can play basketball two days in a row. We played basketball two days in row. They got better equipment, They got better equipment, they got better medicals, they got cold plunges, they got hyperbaric chambers, they got private planes. Now, if we can play back to back games and Chuck Taylor's and things like that, and fly commercial.

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Speaker 4: I flew commercial my first four years in the NBA.

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Speaker 7: We didn't have ice plunge, we had ice bags, we didn't have hyperbaric chambers. So if we could do that for two million dollars a year, they damn sure can do it for forty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: And Dan, we said it before.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting how it took up a life of his own because it was Michael Jordan you asked me last time. I can't remember I love doing your show. First of all, I must love doing your damn show. You make me get up and damn, six o'clock in the morning. I want to kick you in ta's ass. I just want you to know that it's six o'clock in the morning. But you asked me what was the bigger problem.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA.

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Speaker 7: All the threes are load management, and I said to you, quite as load management, it's when Michael says that it's like just turning into a wildfire. It's been a problem for years. And let me tell you some Dan, it's going to really be a problem going forward because we got guys making seventy million dollars a year, God bless them.

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Speaker 4: That's just on them.

00:28:47
Speaker 7: But when we start having guys making eighty ninety one hundred million dollars a year and they says, yeah, I played last night, I can't play tomorrow. We can't just keep crapping on the fans. That that's just disrespectful. Number one is disrespectful to the game, But it's really disrespectful to the fan base. If I saved up all my money expensive as tickets are, did some of these stars only gonna come to East Coast, West Coast one time.

00:29:14
Speaker 4: A year and you're making ninety million.

00:29:17
Speaker 7: Dollars and you can't play basketball two years two days in a row.

00:29:22
Speaker 4: That's one hundred wrong.

00:29:24
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I said the same thing. My reaction to Jordan was, this is obvious. Of course he's going to be against load management, and it makes his reputation, you know, stand even taller because he didn't take games off. He tried to play in every single game, so there wasn't any news in this. And you're right if Mike says it all of a sudden, load management's a topic again. And I'm like, these guys today don't care. They don't care what Michael Jordan says about home. I'm going to play every game now because Mike said so well.

00:29:58
Speaker 7: And the thing that bothers me, I wish they will tell the truth instead of just saying you hear people saying well, it's not healthy or things like that.

00:30:07
Speaker 4: Just say I want it and listen, this is a fair thing. On their point.

00:30:12
Speaker 7: If I'm able to play basketball two or three more years, I'm probably gonna make an extra fifty to one hundred million dollars. I mean, depending on who you are, even if you like I say, if you're a star, who like if you play an extra three years, you're gonna make a minimum of probably one hundred million dollars. Dan, if you can pay add three years, at the end of your career, you're probably gonna be making thirty to fifty sixty million dollars. And I understand that, but just say, hey, I'm trying to extend my career. Don't just tell don't try to tell me it's not healthy. I've seen reports out there saying it's not healthy to play, dude. But for guys that played basketball back to back their entire life.

00:30:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, and I understand this because if you said to Larry Bird, hey, why don't you do load management? You might be able to extend your career three more years. Or I said that to Steve Nash, you know, would they do load management if they knew I got a chance to play a few more years here?

00:31:19
Speaker 4: And I understand that argument.

00:31:21
Speaker 7: But what Michael said, Man, these people only gonna get to see the great ones every now and then. Like Michael Jordan, Carl Malone was only gonna come to Philly one time a year. He's only going to go to New York one time a year. Madgie Johnson's only coming to Philly one time a year.

00:31:46
Speaker 4: That's not fair. Like, Yo, you got to play in New York. You gotta Can you imagine in the day if Magig.

00:31:54
Speaker 7: J Justin had A said, Hey, we play, I'm gonna pick some craft and okay, I shouldn't say that. I know I'm gonnatting. Can you imagine if Magic Johnson said we planned I played in Brooklyn last night. I'm not gonna play against the Celtics the next day. Can you can just think about how stupid that sounds. I played in Indiana and I apologize to Brooklyn. Now we played the Pacers last night. I'm not gonna play against the Celtics tonight. Can you can Can you imagine? Can you imagine if LARVII Bird said, Hey, we played the Clippers last night. I'm gonna sit out this Lakers game tomorrow. Can you imagine how that's stupid that sounds?

00:32:42
Speaker 2: Uh, you won the MVP in nineteen ninety three. Yes, if I said you could trade in the MVP, but the Suns win the championship.

00:32:54
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would rather win the championship. But you know, nobody can take away what I accompassed that year.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: You know it's him the reason why I bring it up. Cam Newton said that he would rather win the NFL MVP, like he wouldn't trade his m VP for a Super Bowl win.

00:33:12
Speaker 4: Well, well, we all have.

00:33:15
Speaker 7: Our thing, Like I wanted to win a championship for the people of Phoenix. That I've said, that's my only regret not winning the championship in Phoenix, because you know, this is where I live. These people have always treated me amazing, Like Philip, that's no disrespect to Philly, but they've already won a championship. That's my only regret in my career is not winning a championship for the Phoenix Suns fans. But yo, man, that year I was the best basketball player in the world. We had the best record in the world. I like these That's the one thing that annoys me about ESP and I'm not gonna lie there. They have this stupid argument every year about the MVP that Michael should have won more or or Lebron should have won more.

00:33:59
Speaker 4: It's not who's the best player, is the person who had the best year.

00:34:03
Speaker 7: It's like, because let me use an analogy, you're trying to tell me when Magic and Bird were going back and forth on MVPs, one of them was better than the other. Notes who ever had the best regular season. But now guys like to start like Lebron should have won, like David Rose was the best player in the world. That year he won MVP, the Chicago Bulls had the best record of the Eastern Conference. The years Karl Malone won the MVP, the Utah Jazz had the best record in the NBA. Like Chack, Chack always gets an know that Steve Nash, well, Steve Nash as good as sha Quill No. But the Phoenix Suns had the best record in the NBA both years he won MVP. I don't think Steve Nash would Steve when DNAs to tell you, No, I was not better than Kobe Bryant, but those two years I had a better regular season.

00:34:55
Speaker 4: It's a regular season award.

00:34:57
Speaker 2: Did you think you were better than Jordan? Not having just a better year than Jordan in ninety three, but you were better than Jordan.

00:35:05
Speaker 7: I did not realize that I was not as good as Michael Jordan, so I played him in the finals because when I got traded to Phoenix, I told the guys, we're going to the finals and we're gonna play the Bulls. That's the first thing I told them when I got traded the Phoenix, and I said, the only reason, Michael Jordan, I felt like it was just as good, I said, the only reason he's better. He got Scottie Pippen, Dennis Robin, Harris Grant, guys like that Packson bj He had a hell of a team, I said, But now I got Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley said to Bolos Mark West. And it wasn't until after game two that I realized that he was better than me because I had fifty he had fifty five. I told the guy, we're gonna win tonight. We're gonna win the game tonight, and I did I had. I think I had forty seven, to be exact, but he had like fifty two. That was the first time because like even when I played against Magic and Burrid, I was like, I'm just as good as these guys. But they got James Worthy and Kareem and Barry McHale in Paris and Dennis Johnson. But I don't think any great player. I think Carl Malone thinks he's the greatest. I think Patrick Ewing, I think all you can't be a great player unless you think you're betting everybody else because you have to have supreme confidence. But like then, there's a lot of guys who are delusional. They're just good, just alright, good player. They think they're beat and they are. But there's no great player. There's no Hall of Fame type player who don't think he's the best player out there every night.

00:36:34
Speaker 2: Lebron's not out there. You said that he's got an old guy injury.

00:36:39
Speaker 4: He's just old. Everybody gets old. Yeah, he says, a sciatica.

00:36:45
Speaker 7: You know what that means. Yeah, I know it's back hurt. All old people back hurt. Then all old people back hurt. You can you can dress it up like a sciatica. You can come up with all these medical terms. Lebron is old.

00:37:03
Speaker 2: Ah, you froze up again. Thank you, Charles. We'll talk to you soon, all right, man, have a great one. Okay. I'm not sure what the connection was on our end or on his end.

00:37:17
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, the I team has done a little bit of research refreshingly and found out there is a zoom issue nationwide. Usually I'd like to blame someone here. It appears that may be outside of our building.

00:37:29
Speaker 2: A zoomish yes, a zoomish issue. All right, Well, Chuck, thank you for being patient. There By the way, sliding into the weekend, nothing like Kings of Wind. Sliders Sunday, enjoy the NFL games with friends and family, and enjoy Kings of Wind coming up this weekend. Sliding into the weekend, you got Dodgers in blue jays, Yamamoto back on the bump, as they'd like to say. And could imagine if he has another complete game, because I don't know if there's been a Dodger player that's going to stand out to win the MVP. But if Yamamoto would have a complete game and force it to game seven and they win in game seven, I'd be hard pressed not to give it to him. Hard pressed. So he's pitching to night and the whole Dodger Nation is on his shoulders. College football, Vandy and Texas. Boy, this is so good, by the way, arch Manning, everybody had an offer for him when he came out of high school. Diego Pavilla had zero Division one offers coming out of high school. They will meet up in Austin, Okloman, Tennessee. That's spicy as well. NFL Chiefs and the Bills. According to our buddy Nick Wright, this is the Bill's Super Bowl Colts against the Steelers. The Colts point differential right now is one hundred and sixteen points. That's through eight games since nineteen seventy. Here are the quarterbacks to accomplish that feat, to have at least one hundred and sixteen points more than the opposition. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, John Elway, and Danny Jones. Danny Dimes stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. You'll find King Zawaiian. You'll find him in the day Delhi or Bakery section of your local grocery store. Kingswaiian dot com for all your recipe inspirations. Let's see Lucas in Texas. Luke, thanks for holding what's on your mind today?

00:39:41
Speaker 9: Hey Dan, good morning, good morning. You know we not only have a Friday Fritzy today, we have a Friday the thirteenth Fritzy. And it just got me thinking a little bit. Over the years, I think all of the fans of The Dan Patrick Show have gotten the No todd a little bit and say this is a unique guy. And you guys talked about it just a little bit yesterday, you know, working with midespn, But do any Dan, do you or any of the Dants have just a clear first memory of my goodness, this person that I work with sees the world in a very different lens than I and just kind of a first incident where you're like, man, this Todd person is something else.

00:40:22
Speaker 2: I don't know if there was a moment. I remember being around Todd and he was always interesting, entertaining, spoke really fast, good worker. But I didn't know it would translate to putting him on the radio. Same thing with McLevin. When McLevin started coming up and hanging around us, and then I remember saying to Paulie, I said, I'm gonna put McLevin on the show. He goes really, I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he's interesting enough, smart enough, quirky enough. I had a better indication with McLevin, and I don't know why than I did Todd. But then once I realized what I had with Todd, no other show in America had that and that. But that doesn't mean they're not trying to get a Todd Fritz or McLevin. So I've been very fortunate that those gambles paid off. Final hour on the way Todd has Is Halloween, sports names and rhyme time. Yeah, you're gonna get a whole lot more of Fritzi here, Fritzy Friday, Happy Halloween.