Little Pedophile on the Prairie; AJ Benza Breaks Down This Week’s Hottest Gossip

[SPEAKER_00]: Today, on misunderstood with Rachel, you could tell.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're gonna both get in a lot of trouble for staying out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for f*** sake, I don't care what you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Little pedophile on the prairie.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Melissa Gilbert.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cindy's pretty as a sex spot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love her body.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we all agree that her face is like a six and a half?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a level of fame where you get everything you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything you've ever desired.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can have tigers and lions in your f***ing house, but some of these guys go, let me try a guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like a finger on f***ing a smomite saying, let me try more than a finger.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have come to Somali and they have learned how to take hundreds of millions from our government and send it overseas to their people who basically help finance terror around the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, they got a f***ing go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I figured me for this joke, but did you get an invite to Tiger's 50th?
[SPEAKER_00]: Today's guest is one of my favorite people to have on this show.
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, one of the last true originals left in gossip and media.
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ Benza is an OG gossip columnist.
[SPEAKER_00]: A former New York Daily News and also page six staple.
[SPEAKER_00]: A long time media personality and someone who didn't just report on celebrity culture, he helped shape it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before a podcast, before TikTok T, before anonymous blinds became a business model, there was AJ.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was breaking stories when people still answered their phones and secrets actually stayed secret until they didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And today, AJ is the host of the wildly popular podcast fame as a bitch with spin-offs like politics as a bitch, relationships are a bitch and more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because in AJ's world, pretty much everything is a bitch, and he says it exactly how he sees it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what you're going to get today.
[SPEAKER_00]: We cover all the high and uncomfortable topics.
[SPEAKER_00]: Melissa Gilbert's husband, Timothy Busfield, is being held on child sex abuse charges, the very buzzy and very messy drama surrounding members only Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's really being whispered about with Sean Diddy Combs, Tyler Perry, Will Smith, and why suddenly Hollywood seems to be having, let's call it a collective identity moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: We also get into all the news allegations surrounding Julio Glacius and of course Ajay's unapologetically controversial take on all of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may not agree with Ajay Benza and honestly you probably won't agree with him on everything, but you cannot deny that he's a riot.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's fearless and he's somehow still knows everybody on the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a no filter, no PR, no safe space conversation, and that's exactly why I love having him here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So buckle up, this one is unhinged, hilarious, and very, very misunderstood.
[SPEAKER_00]: You
[SPEAKER_00]: I've missed you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you in Chicago?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you move there?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, you look great by the way, but really marriage agrees with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: How does this look?
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, if you, if I didn't listen, listen, in my younger days, I'll just snap you and pull that ring off your finger, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now, you look great.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm in Chicago, my sister, and my brother-in-law live here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's really in bad health.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm helping her out since Christmas.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's meant that he's got a really bad illness.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm here for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's snowed again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's ox, it's like eight inches of snow on the ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll be leaving about a week just doing my thing as a good brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's very nice of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm so glad you made the time for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to hop right into this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've a list of things I want to get to.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just curious because you host your amazing podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to know, is there something in particular that you're covering and obsessed with right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it just all the same hot topics that I'm going to cover with?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mainly do hot topics, but I have a politics as a bit show as well, and I've been talking about Minnesota a lot, and I really want this weekend, and I'm going to do a show on the fact that there's so much anger coming from women that I just just find it, I'm not too shocked by it because women, a lot of women, have been changing, ever since Donald Trump became president the first time, and I don't see enough men out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: and I'm concerned because women see men can go on the street and cross and shit because we can fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know our limits, we've been in the school yards and the playground and the mean streets of New York or have you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we know how to size someone up.
[SPEAKER_02]: These women who are in their homes or this lesbian who got shot and killed, they don't understand what a man can do, especially if he's given the right to hurt you if you if you fuck up their investigations.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're walking out there nuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're shaving their heads off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many men can handle your wife just shaving her head cushions, man, the trumps and office.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, I think that there's no no more sex and marriages.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think these women are just sex-starved, the men don't give a shit and they're out there just trying to have some kind of excitement in their life and they're going to kill over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are these two women this woman that got shot was a lesbian so she's I mean You know anybody who was married and had children with a man then turns lesbian I'm very suspect over you know I mean, I'm sure she likes women, but it just doesn't sit right with me You had three kids with your man and now you're like a woman and you like it because she's shaped her fucking head looks like a female boxer What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've never understood that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because if you like a butch girl, then why don't you just stay to man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, I'm going to let's be in so I don't have that there is anything wrong with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have a ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think I'm here?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but Holden, what's so what is your take on what happened there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's who do you think you know, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I make no bones about being a Trump guy and I think he gave his orders to eyes to get to that state.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one state out of many that are going to have problems with fraud and all sorts of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what he's doing is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's cleaning up the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it can look ugly at times and getting rid of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a pretty sight, but it's what we have to do to clean up this country after years of abuse and he's the guy to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, my cake is she was in the wrong, because she was out there for hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't the first day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Harder wife take classes to learn how to be anarchist.
[SPEAKER_02]: They send their son to a school that doesn't even talk about academic, so learning, it's all about social justice, a K through five school, which is insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the agitators, professional anarchists, she's out there, the guy was hit by the truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care what people say.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had internal breathing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He went to the hospital.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was dragged the hundred yards a year earlier by the crazy driver.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he should do you think so he was a little gun shy or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Try not happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever you want to say because he had this incident a year before, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that definitely played into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But but then again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're going to see many federal agents standing in front of trucks anymore or SUVs.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's dangerous, but that woman wasn't attempting a K-turn or a U-turn.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was fleeing and she knows she got too deep into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Her girlfriend, her wife said, drive baby drive and she drove and the guy got hit and he shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Normally a cop should send her mass.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't aim for a leg or a hip.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should set a mess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Set a mess was behind the wheel, so he shot up above it and hit her head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for the dog and that car more than I feel bad for her.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna ask.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a terrible thing to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened to the dog?
[SPEAKER_02]: The dog's okay, but I feel more for the dog than the woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you bring the dog out for that kind of situation?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's wrong with you?
[SPEAKER_02]: See, if you're a band.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, the whole thing was just so upsetting in general.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I really have tried to stay out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they had to insert themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was there clearly to get an illegal immigrant and I don't know why they got involved.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all, it's all hatred of Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of this is because they can't stand Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who wouldn't want their neighborhood cleaned up?
[SPEAKER_02]: getting rid of fraud, getting rid of people who were illegal who caused crime and disruption in your neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason why you wouldn't want that to go down.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's all about we can do anything as long as we hate Trump, we have to keep doing this and keep doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's made the other half of the world and the other half of the American people berserk because of his tactics, his personality, which doesn't bother me at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, sometimes I think he should have said that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But overall I'm thrilled with what he's doing and I want more of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's interesting because I love you and I respect anything you say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a magma, but I don't have a problem with like, you know, listen, I live in Palm Beach, Florida.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody here is mad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't deal with the people that are so overly hateful.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that a lot of you guys think that the lib tards are hateful as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just listen, I'm in the middle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it upset me that a woman got shot, that had nothing to do with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It upset me that she inserted herself and got involved.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole thing is upsetting on all levels.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like to get involved in it because it's just, there's so many sides and everybody gets angry.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've tried to, in my 51 years, I'm gonna be 51 next week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have learned that I don't want to be in that anger.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you something now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, now ex girlfriend, but we're still very close.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's the same way.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a she's into she's more conservative than liberal But she doesn't want to deal with the anger and the people in the fighting.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's just like kind of pushed herself away from it You doesn't want to watch the news anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And look one of my good friends for 31 years is Bill Mar
[SPEAKER_02]: We hang out, we play basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've gone flying his plane to Vegas with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't talk politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just laugh about shit that's gone on the world and probably will not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, he's the 31 years ago we became friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the double date in New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the guy so brilliant.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's the only one that I've seen in so long that's at least trying to bring people toward the middle, toward common sense more.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's being ostracized for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You start out to go with clubs.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the sites have to tell him, try less.
[SPEAKER_02]: Try doing more and less.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get that.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, she went through the list of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: She started rudely with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I found that uncomfortable all the way to the last person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot who it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was basically like, I love you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It made no sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It made no sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's kept making your face.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to step this some more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Ricky's face is an atheist and he talks about the trans community.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you said, if you win, I'm going to accept your award and thank God and the trans community, then she told Bill, do less, try less, all because these are the people that are bringing common sense back with their comedy or their political shows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just be more sensical.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, once you want your neighborhoods cleaned up, why do you want riff-fraff coming over?
[SPEAKER_02]: They just found a Somali senator.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to, I was just going to say about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on there with the Somalians in Minnesota is insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of fascinating with this young kid uncovered all of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at first when I started to see those posts that he was making, I was like, oh, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that real?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was one after one after one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for people that are listening that don't know what we're talking about,
[SPEAKER_00]: The government was funding the Somalian daycare companies and giving them grants or whatever for millions and millions of dollars and this kid went with the cameraman to these Somalian centers, where no kids existed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, no one was there working.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was shocking and you know, this is a place run by someone who is going to be the vice president of the United States, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's kind of shocking that all this stuff is happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, well, I think that the inside word is Kamala Harris shows Tim Wolves because he was able to raise like $35 billion very quickly for the campaign and they that lit up her eyeballs.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not only it's not only learning centers in Shalkia.
[SPEAKER_02]: the transportation services, translating services.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know if a Somali goes to a doctor or their kid has to go to a doctor, they want to go to a specialist two states away, they'll Uber, the government will pay for their Uber, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars to go there.
[SPEAKER_02]: with a translator that gets hundreds of dollars an hour, so the smiling can understand the illness, then they Uber backed, and that course, this is happening everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't go to the nearest dock, because they take out a state dock that Chris and government's gonna pay for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I drove a cab, many years ago, there were people who were on Medicaid and such that they don't pay for caps.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you knew when you were picking them up, you weren't gonna get a tip, because they don't pay for the fair.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it happened so look at New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how long well that's how you've been there been a while for me But all the way in you know Roosevelt that all the way in the east side There are there are so many neighborhoods all areas in that neighborhood that are just phone stores
[SPEAKER_02]: it alone stores yeah all these places where you can send money and they all take they'll ship money overseas they'll ship so my father was an undercover cop many years ago and he told me we only know that we only really noticed minorities when they invent their own crimes and then they're on a radar like the Italians like the Jews like the Irish and he'd come to Somali as they've learned how to take built myth
[SPEAKER_02]: hundreds of millions from our government and send it overseas to their people to basically help finance terror around the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, they've got to fucking go.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're illegal, they really got to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you see these guys, one guy they grab was illegally came at the at the age of one of the snow shovel.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a video of him beating the guy, how do you want these people in your neighborhood?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just hatred of Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's move on to some of the hot topics that that are happening right now to me, the biggest thing that I was shocked about was that Melissa Gilbert's husband has been accused of sex abuse charges on two young boys.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for people listening, let me just read what the headline is or whatever what's happening here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Melissa Gilbert, who's best known for her iconic role in Little House on the prairie, is that the center of a disturbing story involving her husband actor and director at Timothy Bustfield.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bustfield, who has appeared in projects like The West Wing and Field of Dreams, I mean, a space that's recognizable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really know who he was or what his name was.
[SPEAKER_00]: He turned himself into authorities, I think it was yesterday, after being accused of criminal sexual contact with two minors.
[SPEAKER_00]: According to prosecutors, the allegations involved inappropriate conduct with two boys and a judge has ordered him held without bond as the case proceeds.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's denied all the allegations and Gilbert has publicly stated she's standing by her husband as the legal process plays out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as of now, she has taken down all of her social media, her Instagram, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually read the documents that were filed.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were lengthy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And long story short, it looks bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, first of all, it doesn't say anything about like that he had sex with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that he fondled them on set and now I'm forgetting the name of the, uh, the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cleaning lady.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's your thought on the whole thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Initially, look, I've been down this road with a number of celebrities now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last week was a big one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Daniel Stern gets a prostitute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep a solid ligts assault in the in the right year.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Timothy Buzzfield, I remember his show 30 something I watched out of my in my 30s way long ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want to believe it because I think a lot of people come in after stars in that capacity when they direct children.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been on sets for Ron Howard was directed a movie in mind and he had to tick a little boy's legs because he wouldn't laugh during a scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes the directors have to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or the more I read about it and looked into it, you know, this guy does have two different sexual assault accusations in his past.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the 90s and the 2000s, both were settled with cash, and I believe NDAs were signed, so we won't know anything about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now we're with children?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: These weren't children, but yesterday, after he turned himself in,
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... there was another another a father came out and and and said look my daughter work worked on uh... at the beach street theater which he runs and he kissed her she was sixteen he put his hands down her pants and felt her private area this father came out the day he turned himself in so that's another situation he's got to go through his talent to see dumped him which normally happens now his publicist will dump him and we've seen this before during the meet to era i don't want to believe it not that i love the guy but i just feel like i don't think he did it i i just
[SPEAKER_02]: My gut tells me they'd go in from, but I look, I've always been a guy who jumps on kid, kid did those, but something tells me, I don't think he's guilty this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here in the paperwork, and I don't have an in front of me, but the just was, it went through the entire investigation.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's this one cop who's going through all the people he talked about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what stood out to me and that was interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were people that said he was creepy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just, you know, he's just a creepy guy in general.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there wasn't actress on the show, and I forget her name, but she was an actress in this movie who said that the mother of the two boys specifically said I'm going to come after him because I guess they didn't bring the boys back and they didn't want to have them return as a return character, whatever and the mother was very vengeful and actually said out loud, I'm going to make sure he pays for this, meaning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what resounded in my years.
[SPEAKER_02]: That resounded in me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: The actress who starred in that show, I forget her name too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she brought that news out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she told Timmy that news.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't sell right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what's terrible about it also is that she had told that to a cop originally or in some original investigation.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when this cop went to get her statement, she wouldn't cooperate.
[SPEAKER_00]: instead sent a voicemail to him or whatever saying I don't want to be involved in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So she wouldn't repeat that and go on the record saying that, which sucks for him, because I think that gives him some sort of credibility that it didn't happen, whereas everyone else said he was creepy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what would be interesting to hear what happens?
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I've always thought it's one thing to have sexual acts with like,
[SPEAKER_00]: young children, but he, I didn't know that he may be gay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's one thing to do with boys versus girls, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all the allegations I did read it in the 90s.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was accused of sexual harassment or whatever, but with a woman or a girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's gay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that he has a, maybe if this is all true, that he has a predilection for youth.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the guys got 700 credits as a writer, director, producer, actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's anybody that has more than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's been around a lot of sets.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if these are three or four allegations, you have to 700 different opportunities,
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I kind of, that that I like him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like this is going to be a hit a nothing burger.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I feel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no matter what, I mean, his reputation is not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he, he's done.
[SPEAKER_00]: And how do you come back?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if my husband was accused of that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how, that's going to affect their relationship.
[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of if it was true or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how mortified is she?
[SPEAKER_00]: How angry is she?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: All these things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be, it'll be very interesting to see how that little, like, little pedophile on the prairie.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Melissa Gilbert.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, so which brings me to another one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like everybody's being charged with sexual stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, let's see, Julio Aglesias, did you read about this this year?
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw this last night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, within 24 hours, international music icon Julio Aglesias, who, by the way, is now in his 80s.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's facing allegations from
[SPEAKER_00]: former employees who claim sexual and physical abuse while working in his residence is abroad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Spanish prosecutors are reportedly reviewing the claims, though no formal charges have been announced at this time, and he has denied any wrongdoing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This poor guy, I mean, this is going to affect his legacy also.
[SPEAKER_02]: It will, but then again, I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: He's too much of a brilliant performer for so many decades that his real fans won't leave him.
[SPEAKER_02]: How much longer can he sing anyhow?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he even singing still in his 80s?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I'm saying that part of his persona, like he's a little swore for all the girls I love before.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's a lover.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a Latin lover.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd get to be this old.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of people feel like there's some money at the end of
[SPEAKER_02]: he'll give me something as a parting gift.
[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing happened to Smokey Robinson.
[SPEAKER_02]: How great Smokey Robinson been for 70 years?
[SPEAKER_02]: And now that coming out saying he abused his nurse, his housekeepers and I just I tend not to believe it when they're this old.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that
[SPEAKER_02]: certain people weaponize themselves and know they can get some money out of somebody because most people don't want to go to court and go to trial and just go what does she want get my lawyer on this you want a hundred thousand give her a hundred i have i have two hundred million dollars give her a hundred grand let me get out of this shit that's what that's what comes down to i don't believe these stories well but here's another one though with Tyler Perry and these are i believe in i'm a little proud okay so for people that are listening let me read
[SPEAKER_00]: The blurb of Adam Tyler Perry, who's one of Hollywood's most powerful filmmakers and studio owners, is facing multiple sexual assault lawsuits filed by men who alleged abuse tied to professional relationships.
[SPEAKER_00]: One lawsuit seeks tens of millions of dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like 77 million.
[SPEAKER_00]: A accusing pair of sexual assault, battery, and emotional distress.
[SPEAKER_00]: Perry has categorically denied all allegations calling them false.
[SPEAKER_00]: No criminal charges have been filed yet in the end, but lawsuits have reportedly caused some industry figures to distance themselves publicly as the case moves forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you believe that these might be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do believe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I go back to the Harvey Weinstein case, which was a friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I still consider a friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: I began my podcast with a Harvey Weinstein.
[SPEAKER_02]: No's dive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot about these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's powerful men in Hollywood and they have such immense power when they meet somebody younger and can promise them startup and fame that it really can fuck people heads up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler Perry doesn't want to admit that he's gay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the first red flag.
[SPEAKER_02]: If he's still not out, I don't I don't think he even talks about it really.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he acts like it's a not issue, but it is an issue because all the people coming after him are men.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe this these guys who are saying that he did this in that promised them roles, but there's some sour grapes mixed in in with.
[SPEAKER_02]: these people who are suing him, why do you keep going with them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do you keep dating them because they want to be famous?
[SPEAKER_02]: They want that shot in fame.
[SPEAKER_02]: So partly it's their fault if you keep going back to an abuser or somebody you know, look, you're a woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've been able to many guys you know want to get in bed the first night, but you don't have to handle yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler Perry can handle himself, but the people that he's with, they just assume I'm going to get all the riches I deserve.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've studied.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm an actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's my guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I got to sleep in him one night.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then suddenly you're acting as an up to par and the part doesn't last and you're left on your own again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you do?
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to assume he put his hand down my path.
[SPEAKER_02]: You lot on put his hand on your pants.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You went to his house.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like this shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think, look, you can't wear a dress your whole career and act like you're straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when men come after you and say that you touched me, I would give it 80% he did.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that 20% I'm mad at the people that the so-called victims because they do this to themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: They bring themselves in front of a guy that
[SPEAKER_02]: you know can make you famous, but if you doesn't do it fast enough or you're a clock, then you have some kind of revenge tactic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Same thing happened to Harvey, not saying he's a angel.
[SPEAKER_02]: If he raped one girl, he deserves to be in prison.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are many women who came out against them who just wanted to be famous and didn't work out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're going to both get in a lot of trouble for staying that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I do think it's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: And listen, I have another question for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're really heterosexual, alpha, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the deal with all these men being gay?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all men gay secretly, like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, will Smith, I also saw his, like, now in trouble for touching a guy, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is everybody gay?
[SPEAKER_00]: See you again.
[SPEAKER_02]: 30 years ago, I was driving in a car with Albee short.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be sure of the great arm-beating with friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love Albee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tough guy to Albee would fight at bars.
[SPEAKER_02]: We was great together.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're getting in New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Albee liked transvestites.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were a lot of transvestite hookers in the city.
[SPEAKER_02]: My neighborhood, the West Village.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'd ride through the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they would run after us truck.
[SPEAKER_02]: He liked it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then Will Smith calls one night.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're in the car together.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to have a party, haven't jaded up at some hotel room uptown, bring a girl, bring a guy, and I'll be telling me it's like, I'm into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I go, I'm not into that shit, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was, I'm going to go and he got another buddy of mine who I'm more mentioned.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that guy went with him with their girl, and they shared each other's women in men.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm not putting them down for whatever their sexual kink is, but I was there for the phone call.
[SPEAKER_02]: Will Smith has always been this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when things like this pop up, I know it's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was there 30 years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know whether or I don't know whether or I think they don't want to go through Hollywood with one hand, Todd, behind the back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they want all the opportunities they can.
[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the actors on different strokes I think it is is a black kid is his marriage is over.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see a picture of the wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a man.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no doubt it's he married a man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think at the actor's name, but he'll little pop up in the news to check TMZ.
[SPEAKER_02]: He married a fucking man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, look, when I was in college and I was a journalism major, it would have feared a minor.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when I went to the theater, I'm not going to lie to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to do all the Al Pacino plays, but
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a lot of hot girls in theater, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was having a ball, but there were a lot of gay guys in theater.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of those gay guys begin in theater and go up the ranks in Hollywood, and if they're handsome and strong-looking, they can't come out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And eventually, who they really are, comes out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Will Smith became a superstar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're getting to know what I knew 30 years ago that he ain't all there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mickey Brooks is the same way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was best friends with Mickey a hundred years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mickey always looked at guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: He asked me if I knew if he was gay one, I said no.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are such a weird, fascinating thing about men in Hollywood that I never doubt at what I hear somebody's gay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I totally believe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not an underlying thing that all men are gay.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like pulperian candles and flowers in my house, but I don't want a man's thing in my hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: You brought up Keith their Southern.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Keith first of the Lynn a minute ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I forgot he was just arrested for like a sold battery on like a new bird driver something.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows what happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: He told the driver and let me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to get out and the driver was rushing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't really speak great English and Keith was giving him a shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't let me out, I'll kill you or I'll beat the shit out of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the guy, you know, the guy called on the cops on him, they got key for, but key for look, I think it means he's drinking again because I used to hang out with key for 25 years ago at the After I was clubs in LA and this is what he was doing the show 24, which was a huge hit.
[SPEAKER_02]: We would beat the After I was four o'clock in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: drank in everybody was out of their minds and there was a limousine across the street ready to take key for it to the set to do 24 he would he would stumble out of that after I was house on a how he made it I watched the show and go how did he get straight what kind of coffee is he drinking that he can act for hours from now so I think he's drinking again unfortunately and he'll settle ill give the guy you know 50 grand 75 grand oh go away
[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, he'll, a lot of these stars know they can get away with murder because their daddies were big and famous and now they're big and famous and they just take these bit look, he first on this before and jumped on a big Christmas tree in a hotel and knocked a whole thing over.
[SPEAKER_02]: He headbutt of the guy who bumped into Brooke Shields one night and he headbutt of the guy and he's a wild man because he drinks.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if he's, if he's beaten up or threatening a cabby, he's back on the sauce.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, some of you were talking about made me think about, um, the docu-series that's our documentary about Charlie Sheen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, did you end up watching that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Charlie.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you think of that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like do you think he's having this come back?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what's absolutely Charlie?
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you, again, I hate to keep saying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I would Charlie many times in the past we had the same manager when Charlie was on the down low.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was not even, he wasn't horrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we had the same manager which shows you how down he was.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we would hang out a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is before two and a half men.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was always honest about his drug use and how crazy it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think, well, first of all, I knew girls that went to his house and stayed there for days on the end, and I knew what was going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew about the HIV.
[SPEAKER_02]: I even, I broke that story, which I didn't want to do, but I did break it on radio.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I...
[SPEAKER_02]: Charlie Sheen is a remarkable actor, great comedic actor, a great talent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some people we just accept the fact that their fuck-ups will be loved or acting.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'd love to see them in the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think he's going to have a big Renaissance and a big combat.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to get a dramatic roll or two and people are going to see, holy shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't bought it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he did too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a one-one millionth of his money.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even imagine the fraction I've had.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've had a bull.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was with him one night when a girl said ain't Charlie and he's like, looking at her, gorgeous girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Charlie, it's me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Charlie didn't have he had no response.
[SPEAKER_02]: She goes,
[SPEAKER_02]: I spent a week at your house, you gave me your car.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, too many percussets.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, he lived such a crazy life.
[SPEAKER_02]: But every girl who I am with him, I know a lot of girls who stayed with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: They speak so highly of him that he
[SPEAKER_02]: he didn't beat them, it was just he just liked to have fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was something that got in the hand, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think in general, we want to see Charlie come back because we all want to give somebody a second chance.
[SPEAKER_02]: We all deserve one, he's honest to have fault about his demons, so I hope he gets a second chance and I think he will and do well with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting that people that are around him like Denise Richards seems like she's having so many problems right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has the show and she always seems drunk when she has these cameos in the housewives of whatever and she's wearing her clothes backward and that seems like a whole mess.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's horrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: and broke is in and out of rehab and you know you kind of want the best for her but I don't know that this seems like a mess too.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then by the way this is the first time in a while we saw Heidi Flayce came out in the docu series and spoke by the way Heidi and I have struck up a friendship when we talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Heidi.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love her and and they're doing a documentary on her right now that she's filming.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a biopic that they're doing and I think Audrey Plaza or whatever
[SPEAKER_00]: Heidi and I are talking about doing a podcast together.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've named it the Mistress and the Madam, which is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I wish for the best, you know, there's all sorts of interesting characters around Charlie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think he's fun and it's kind of like a happy like, you know, but, but
[SPEAKER_00]: I do wish him the best, honestly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, but he said he turned the menu over and discovered men, sexually.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And who expected that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the things you do with drugs in your system or drugs or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was the same thing with Army Hammer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember when he disappeared and then came back and said, how he tried to have sex with a guy or whatever?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, what is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'll give you my Tyson Eddie Murphy.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was some guys in the eight and nineties that these transvestite hookers who were in my neighborhood in the West Village would tell me Eddie was here last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our city was with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: My Tyson came and I was like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: They like us, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would tell me just in a delicate test and like four o'clock in the morning what they're doing they make up in the in the metal cold camp.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like they like us, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe it but
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes there's a level of fame where you get everything you want, everything you've ever designed.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can have tigers and lions in your fucking house, a hundred foot bolt, anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you run out of things to try.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't imagine ever being this way, but some of these guys go, let me try a guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's something to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I like a finger on my ass, my mind saying let me try more than a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even imagine that scenario.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't hold it against them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Charlie, I love Tyson, I've been making a bunch of times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't bother me, but sex is a very different game.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get into people's sexualities and you've got to be careful.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very murky.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like jumping into the lake and not seeing two feet in front of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sex is sex is so different for so many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's nobody's business what turns people on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't want to tie chicks up, but they want to be tied up.
[SPEAKER_02]: people want to be talked down to and degraded.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever good thing is, keep it in your house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, be happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not against it, but I can't imagine it, but I'm not against it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, speaking of all those dirty things, we're going to get into Sean Combs here for a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like the talk about him has started to die down, okay, this thing that 50 was at 50 sent the put out the documentaries was fascinating.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people watched it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I believe, you know, he's doing another doc.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Tyler Perry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, is that who it's about?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he said.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so yeah, he's kind of riding this true crime and he it says he's expanding his footprint and television and film by developing new true crime projects focused on power crime and celebrity.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be interesting to see what is the latest on Sean comes.
[SPEAKER_02]: There hasn't been much coming out of the prison he's in about what he's up to, but I always maintain when he was found guilty that there's not going to do the whole term.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he'll be out in a year and I don't foresee him having any future in the music business after this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't imagine what to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who's going to go on the studio with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, first of all, many years ago, I felt that
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole him and the biggie small friendship was horseshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew that he was, you know, kind of using him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as soon as he died, he went on that tour to remember biggie.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, this is all horseshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's making so much money off biggie.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are bad guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I never spoke kindly about strong comms when I was a gossip columnist because I knew from people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in that hip-hop crowd back in the 90s.
[SPEAKER_02]: I came up with everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I knew he wasn't a good guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew people died because he's Sean.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, look, I was French and Kim, his ex, who wanted to be called out with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Kim gave me her number one night.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, wait a minute, what about your man?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you know, and she, I thought she was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah, I'll hang out with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: What about your man?
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember going, what the?
[SPEAKER_02]: I never called her because I didn't want to any bit of that smoke, but I'm like, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's always been a weird old with sex.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's always been into guys and girls, but mainly he likes to see guys, obviously, have sex with this Cassie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard the documentary blew my mind that these people, these men, would spend hours with her, and while he's directing it, again, it's a sexual cake.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what bothers me about Puffy is all that all the
[SPEAKER_02]: violence in his life that the guns and the shooting people and beating people up, and I don't see how he can come back and maintain a music career.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he's going to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has money forever, but I don't see him coming out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's a power that he still has some sort of
[SPEAKER_00]: power and especially with his money, you know, he'll come out and I can't imagine he's not going to try and do something and I can and I think that there are plenty of people that are still covering for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably terrible stuff that never came out and those people will be rewarded and they will do stuff with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you actually think that anything really happened with Justin Bieber?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that business.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that they have these youngsters come in like Kevin Campbell who you've completely forgotten about who was going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm obsessed with Kevin Campbell and just appeared.
[SPEAKER_00]: And was such a good singer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's he disappeared when he kind of became a teenager and was in a 20s and kind of everyone knew he was gay.
[SPEAKER_00]: But these are the people that I are.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so fascinated by what happened and couldn't be
[SPEAKER_00]: they got wrapped up and stuff with shankoms and then could not like function.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, like a mace is another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mason, Puffy were great together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he split and became a minister or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, you know, I know these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know they get these young young talent in the room and have them do something that the
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say, look, I was so in that crowd with an ex-girlfriend in mind who was black that I know so many of these stories, without having to print them, I just keep it in the back of my mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know what they do, they take the youngster who's talented and make them do something they don't want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they film it, and it's on camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if that kid, our person doesn't like the contract, or gets uppity, we can release that tape.
[SPEAKER_02]: want to take that motherfucker and then I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll sign.
[SPEAKER_02]: The wrap hip-hop world is like the mafia.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they call themselves gotty and murder ink.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're copying the mafia, not the homosexual property, that power part of we got you under our thumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do shit because we got dirt on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I knew that Puffy was going down in Andre Herrell 100 years ago when he was a youngster coming up the ranks in the music business, Brussels Simmons, another guy, he used to take my ex-girlfriend out, and I'd say, you're always going to have a Russell on that account.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's harmless, he doesn't like girls like you think he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you 30 years later you go, holy shit, now I'm starting to understand this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What other things are you watching on streaming or on TV these days?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_02]: I watch everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a junkie when it comes to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just finished his and hers, which I'm watching it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the twist at the end is going to blow you mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't say more than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That killed me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: I left a mayor in the east town.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it's called?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I never saw that line.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never wanted to watch it and Dan wanted to watch it so we started and I couldn't stop very very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what sucks now?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many opportunities to see stuff and we've been, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to wait a week.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's to think about waiting a week and see me so far and like, I'm not going to wait a week to see you there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see it tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It gets so upset the land man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it takes too long.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to every Sunday and the pit is back out and you have to wait to every Thursday.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's terrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching the pit now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching the season one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not crazy back to pit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it takes you a while to get into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was boring.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, me, what's happening?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I couldn't stop watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it just take a while to get into.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm all I'm all about land man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love I know Billy Bob from but where he made sling blade He's a great guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a really generous wonderful guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew him would enter the inch early We were hanging out one night and he said uh we're at the Sunset but my Sunset marquee And Hollywood he's like a man and she kept knocking on my door last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said what?
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, Angelina, man, she just banging out my door.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm shopping.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a girl back and such and such.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, wait, she wants to be with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember going, you have to be with her for all of us who can't be with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, she wants to get married.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, marry her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go to go about a week later, he married her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I know it didn't end up right, but there's still friends, but it building about was a great character.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a wonderful guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really generous sweet guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love what I made.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Alan Later.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think I'd ever like her like this in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a, what a, I mean, it's not like she ever fell from grace, but what a upcom or.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and to be more true.
[SPEAKER_00]: To be more true.
[SPEAKER_00]: See great actress.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the two of those girls, the world, the girl, the place her daughter, one of the most beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh, this is you've ever seen a very good at her
[SPEAKER_02]: there's about six women in that show that I'm crazy about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Demi Moore looks great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you see she's had a lot of plastic surgery, but who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like a very good looking older woman.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she plays that part perfectly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, here's something you like that I know for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I talked to Billy Bob.
[SPEAKER_02]: not too long ago, to be more an anti Garcia get to keep all their clothes and to be more as wearing couture shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you see that coach yeah, a coat that hung over a shoulders a couple weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she's keep all that shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that about some movies and TV.
[SPEAKER_02]: They give you your own wardrobe.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think what's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the attorney a lot that check that's that's how it sounds like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she's gorgeous, gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never seen her before.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have
[SPEAKER_02]: And my theory is that she's going to get knocked up by this wild character and that's going to be a big thing for the next season.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's your, my prediction was that he was going to die in the, you know, wherever he is on the water and it's going to be devastating for because it's going to be this big love story.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she's going to want to sue her own, you know, the company she works for.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't forget she went all that money into casino.
[SPEAKER_02]: She went like $300,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been fired.
[SPEAKER_02]: He might need that money.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, it's a lot of things happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think he's trying to get knocked up and I'm all for her.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But whatever her name is, she's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I saw that too, but you know, I don't even know who that guy is and she could do much better.
[SPEAKER_00]: She could go for like a list like she's a Jacob.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's six, five.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a good looking dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't see Frankenstein?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: My kind of.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, it might win the Oscar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're going to give it to one battle after another.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm that that movie did nothing for me with the caprio and
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't when I the golden globes came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even understand who happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or I didn't even know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We weren't up for best podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you think it is?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's it's funny because I looked at that list.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's basically like just a list of celebrities, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Hollywood, it's Hollywood, it's Hollywood, and I like small this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like Amy Polar on this third show every week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love small.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's Amy Polish.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: She got a good repartue with a guest.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a kind of a talk show thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're sitting across me, trying for a half hour an hour.
[SPEAKER_00]: How did Joe Rogan not make the list?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's that's my point.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you cannot mention Joe Rogan or Adam Corolla who didn't do this for years.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're the podfog, it's basically Rogan's bigger than God.
[SPEAKER_02]: So everybody on that list from smart list to call me daddy, all that boat, they're all they're all left.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't talk politics on their show, but that's what they are and that's what they're voting for.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would never put Rogan on that list.
[SPEAKER_00]: The call me daddy or call her daddy or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like she has the people she interviews are people I've never heard of.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like 21 years old and I don't even understand what they're talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden she has like a Jane Fonda.
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked her up recently because I was like, wait, I haven't seen a lot on her recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what was incredible to me was the guess were in the last like couple weeks, which I thought, oh, they've made a big push because obviously she's now up for something.
[SPEAKER_00]: like those are names we all know and like the biggest gets so to speak because they don't do people's shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if that was a push so that she would win that award or like what's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know why those people would do her podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you how to say why because there's the day is ended.
[SPEAKER_02]: way you do the tonight's show or Jamie Kimmel or any other shows and you don't get a million people.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get a million people hearing your your eight minutes of funny tidbits or your movie coming out.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do an hour podcast that you're going to get 20, 30 million.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these people have huge audiences and I can't even fathom.
[SPEAKER_02]: But why would you want to spend seven minutes on Kimmel?
[SPEAKER_02]: When you can spend an hour, somebody get 30 million people to hear what you have to say, it's a no-brainer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Television is dying in that capacity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Late night shows don't mean anything anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: All that good force hits on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now you've got writers trying to do bits with the talent that will end up on YouTube tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Johnny Carson or David Letterman or Jay Leno.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those days are over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Having a talk show is nothing anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Having a podcast that reaches millions is everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm getting nervous about podcasting because I never want to
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I never wanted it to be, I never wanted this medium to become.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on my show and tell me what you're pushing.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you plugging?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sick of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have my talk show for four glorious weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I'm not doing promotional shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to talk to people like Murr Griffin and Johnny Carson did, no plugging.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll plug myself, not then.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's just talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that right now, podcasts are becoming like, I'm sick of seeing one guest do like the circuit of podcasts that I've listened to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I heard him on Bill Moore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I'm sure expert, I'm going to hear what you call this how many times I want to hear this guy, but it's all about clicks and likes and I can't believe what these guys are making for the podcast, I mean 60, 70 million dollar deals, I can't imagine how these sponsors are getting their money back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, how do you get, by the way, what manager is setting that up for them because you and I need that manager.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what, my manager and agent both died about five, six summers ago in the same summer and I haven't even gotten.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even been back thinking about Hollywood at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I might make a stab at it again for some TV shit I want to do, but.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is so different, Rachel.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like it was when I was in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did they're hiring people that have large YouTube followings, large Instagram followers?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Tana Taylor is a great example, who was in one battle after another.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tana Taylor was on MTV's My Sweet 16, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That show that showed these spoiled kids having the most
[SPEAKER_02]: extravagant sweet 16 points.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this girl is always on the radar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then she became a good dancer in New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she was teaching some celebrities how to dance and she ended up on some tours with Beyonce.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she was comment comment.
[SPEAKER_02]: She married a New York Nick had a few kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then she did this video for Kanye Cole fade, where she's in a crop top blue tank top magnificent body.
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of a cheese string on the bottom, but she's in a weight room dancing and pausing any any man would see this ten times in a row.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how sexy she is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she just blew up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now she's got a golden globe.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's directing movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what happened, but I don't see her as being so multi-talented.
[SPEAKER_02]: But
[SPEAKER_02]: because she has 20 million followers, let's get her in a movie, let's hit it, get her to direct something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all it's about.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it even even trying to publish a book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm right in my third book now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my agent tells me I have a book agent still tells me, you know, it's so different now.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just, you know, what can you bring?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is published?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you bring 10 million people?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, that's going to, that's going to be a big part of how they say yes or no.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I never was big on social media trying to get a million followers, I didn't stop working.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not about the quality of your work.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's how many people can you bring to the table and unfortunately, we're getting pounded by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sidney Swaney, look, Sidney Swaney is a sex pod.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love her body.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we all agree that her face is like a six and a half?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, I mean, she's kind of a little bit of a slow-looking person if you're really, I mean, I love to date her, if I was a young boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, I'll be out of my mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to fuck city, sweetie.
[SPEAKER_02]: But really, if you're looking at face and you go, yeah, that was all about her body, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Her body's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: But her face, you can find it better face with them all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I've got followers.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's got so many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you, of course, you've got a hyerah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even understand it because the algorithms don't even make sense because people are buying followers and it's a lot about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So none of that makes sense to me and all these influencers, I think advertisers have started to get with the program and realize they're buying fake shit with these people that are essentially nobody.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand advertising because I can't imagine how they get their money back on some of these situations.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll tell you what I do like and I don't mind seeing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like seeing Kylie Jenner and Timothy Schallemey together.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they look adorable and cute.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like his hucksby, I like what he's doing with his career and I think she looks so sweet next to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hear much out of her mouth, which maybe is a good thing because she's probably dumb as a stump.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she has two kids, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like them two together.
[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't bother me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really a Kardashian fan, but look, we have to admit they in the last 15 to 40 years every ever seen something like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This phenomenon of a family of girls getting so wealthy and popular.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I feel bad for the brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's just the cast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: She is what a loser.
[SPEAKER_00]: He must feel like, you know, but she doesn't bother me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, she was the ugly duckling that got you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was beautiful hot girl.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she doesn't look her age.
[SPEAKER_00]: She looks like a hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: 38 year old but whatever and um and her makeup line i guess does really well and you know good for her he's another one who i thought was gay but okay i thought so too i thought so too when he came out i saw him dating Madonna's daughter and i thought i had this bunch of shit he's a little gay boy but he's not you could tell now that he's grown into a skin he's not but i think in Hollywood you know that he he had that effeminate look so they put up in that
[SPEAKER_02]: So you get you get stamped right away, but I'm I think that was a Courtney and Travis I think they're on the rocks right I've heard they're on the rocks that they are so boring to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that is just the grossest couple.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't find either one of them remotely interesting or a track.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I know I think I'd be I think if I was able to date Courtney because I think after a week I want to get the hell out of the dog she seems so boring to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's there's nothing cute about her.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like she also always acts like she's so bored and she's slow and Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like to me that hottest one is Courtney.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: How Chloe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chloe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, God.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is her third face at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: Third face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, listen, I know all the men have had work, but I'm on record on my show saying, I think Kim Kardashian is one of the most beautiful women we've ever seen, but I don't lack it from the waist down.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate that big giant bass for the black bands target.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want that, but for the waist up, Kim, I think is gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Chloe's gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Kendall's gorgeous, Kylie's a fun time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Courtney, you know, like you said, boring, whatever, but if you've met her with the mall, you data, I mean, I won't, but let's say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a video of this is some skims, probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way, they're all, I mean, two pair of skims.
[SPEAKER_02]: This sort of video of Travis's daughter, Alabama, who we have with Shayna Mochler, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew Shayna back in the day, crazy, crazy girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this shit got $200,000 in presence for Christmas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe the amount of Birkenbergs and Chanel and shoes and underwear and laptops $200,000 for Christmas.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is on, what are you doing to your kid?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that whole family just bored.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, it's gross.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, I want to go back to one last thing about what's on TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen this new show on Netflix?
[SPEAKER_00]: Called members only Palm Beach?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did see snippets of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know they're having a little bit of trouble because they want to film a Mara Logo and people want them thrown out of Mara Logo.
[SPEAKER_02]: I forget the woman's name, but the...
[SPEAKER_02]: Rosalind.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, is that the one that I mean, I'm so funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I picked the Palm Beach twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a little bit about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: My buddies were 63.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're not that old crowd, old money kind of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about it?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's your home count.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're lived in.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I've seen it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've interviewed one of the girls on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know a couple characters on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for people listening, let me just say members only.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new reality series
[SPEAKER_00]: set in Palm Beach, quote unquote, that centers on wealth, exclusivity, and the social dynamics of an ultra elite community, even before the full rollout, the show has generated significant buzz online.
[SPEAKER_00]: With viewers closely watching both the cast and the off-camera drama connected to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let me give you some background here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was filming a pilot, all right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It asked to be part of a pilot, that was being done for Bravo, called Snowbirds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a couple of the people that are on the show, which were extras in it, like friends of Gayle, the woman with the wig, who falls off the chair.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was a cast member on snowbirds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another woman who was in a couple, another couple women who were in some of the scenes as extras, were also part of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they ended up getting a deal with Netflix, so they beat us out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: The casting in this is horrendous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: None of these women live in Palm Beach, but by the way, that's the biggest talk of the town.
[SPEAKER_00]: None of the women live in Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but here's what I say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know it's called members only Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why is it such a scandal that they don't live here?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't have been called that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should have just been called maybe members only.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Members only Florida.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tasha lives in Boca and Miami.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Tasha for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually really like Tasha.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just had her on my show.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's married to her a significant other of David Cone, the picture.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sia Ward winner, like legit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the other women are from West Palm all the way down to Miami.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and it looks like
[SPEAKER_00]: you know to me bravo's out it had its peak and now it's done and now Netflix is taking other streaming networks are taking over the shows but this is similar as to housewives but you know all the girls kind of fight and create this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, animosity against each other and clearly belongs and the big drama outside of it is, well, none of these women belong because it would be that into our community because they act like such animals and they dress like ghouls, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's all this drama going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tasia was on my show.
[SPEAKER_00]: and got into the whole thing with Gayle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want people to know this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Gayle.
[SPEAKER_00]: She lives in a rental in West Palm.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was some roommates, and during the summer, because she thought we were a part of Snowbirds.
[SPEAKER_00]: She rented a room in the Hamptons and shared it with this other woman so that they could say that there's Snowbirds.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a woman worth $100 million that she claims.
[SPEAKER_00]: She claims she's the queen of Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's just not, I'd never even heard of her when we started filming.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm for snowbirds and my family is from Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mother lived there.
[SPEAKER_00]: My grandparents have lived there for 90 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: My whole family has lived there and I grew up coming here.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one's ever heard of Gail Brofeys.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought it was interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it made for good TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you could keep up with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even me being here, it was hard to get into.
[SPEAKER_00]: But once you get into the fourth episode and heels falling over in our wigs falling off of her head.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, it's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would not have been offered a second season.
[SPEAKER_00]: had so much press, not arose after the fact.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tasha was on my show.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's received a cease and desist from Rosalind about talking about the fact that what you brought up that Marlaga is talking about throwing them out.
[SPEAKER_00]: For the record, Tasha didn't start that rumor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was on page six.
[SPEAKER_00]: I asked her about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she just replied with, yeah, I saw that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, she, yeah, she should be thrown out or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: She shouldn't be a member.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever she said, I don't even remember what she said.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she's now being, she was given a season to assist about the podcast she did with me, just because she happened to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: These girls are all fucking nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all, the housewife, the housewife franchise is on its way out, Andy Cohen knows it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just everything has a run.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a great run.
[SPEAKER_02]: He made millions of dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Andy way back in the day when he worked the CBS news.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know when I was at the news.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you look at, look at, there's a certain kind of woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I had my call on the New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I lost you for 10, I lost you two seconds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just repeat that one last line.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was saying that the Housewives franchise is kind of on this way out.
[SPEAKER_02]: These women, I was going to say when I had my column in New York, Bethany Franklin was somebody who was always out in parties and trying to be mentioned in the columns.
[SPEAKER_02]: People don't understand back in the day, New York City's gossip columns were it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was no other place to be mentioned.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was no gossip column in Utah or New Jersey.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was New York City.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Bethany would call me, I was at that party.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you put my name down?
[SPEAKER_02]: That thing is like six, Hollywood, I can't, it just doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she was always at my door.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dolores Catang is the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: She meant me on Instagram or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: She wanted me, can you get me a job?
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you get me on TV?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're so hungry for fame these people.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad they got it, but it ain't always cracked up to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you get, you see, you see, you see how much they're lying and pretending.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it's all nonsense and people like you and me but we get too close to it because we've been around these people and know them for who they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes the luster off what we're watching.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know that's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't real, this is horseshit, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, AJ, what tell people where they could find your podcast fame is a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: My podcast, actually, I do
[SPEAKER_02]: everything is a bitch, but my politics is bitch and fame is a bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be behind a paywall and that's patreon.com slash fame is a bitch and it's a mixture of everything you've heard today plus stories about my family.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a wild upbringing and a crazy life as you do to so I always incorporate that into my stories as well as the
[SPEAKER_02]: anything we're talking about how he would and how he would always gives this always it just it always provides you way a few days and here are three arrests they'll start and keep for sizzling Timothy Busfield it just keeps on giving keeps on giving anything new and exciting coming up in your future
[SPEAKER_02]: Just finishing my third book.
[SPEAKER_02]: My third book is called Famous Jason, which is on Substack AJBansand.substack.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I have four chapters up now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll finish that this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll finish that before summer and then I'll go out to my to my agent and try to get it published.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's all about my
[SPEAKER_02]: My brushes with fame, my crazy stories, and beating people from Frank Sinatra to Mike Tyson to working with sliced alone, John Gotti, just luminaries, Weinstein, Howard Stern, all crazy, wonderful wild stories of what it was like while I had my assent into this crazy occupation, whatever you call it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And any stories that you're going to be covering in the future on one of your shows that we should start paying attention to or something that I think that I'm always going to concentrate on my politics show what what's happening with this uprising of women.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's something we have to really focus on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what what's happened to men.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're a married woman now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you told your husband, I want to get in the car and go fuck around with the feds and slow their operation death.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd say, Rachel, get the fuck in the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Get in the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Play with the dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see your dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, what's the palms name?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mishka.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a palm and I was a baby when I was a little boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also have an extra large bully.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have three dogs total.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have one from a hundred pounds all the way down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't exist to be seven pounds, but she's like nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, that's a good mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're feeling good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I might, my, my girlfriend have.
[SPEAKER_02]: My ex girlfriend has our, I had my shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she gave me a shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's how we met.
[SPEAKER_02]: She gave me a sheet suit because I lost my Japanese chin and she felt like I should have a dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't know her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we met.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when she said, I want to give you this puppy, we met in Death Valley halfway between Vegas and California.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when she got out of the car with the dog, I knew I was in love.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I took the puppy and I fell in love with the girl or the dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll love it all the dog instantly, but the girl, I fell in love with her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we went off by marriage, we were separating.
[SPEAKER_02]: which would tremendous, but it didn't work out.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I let her out the dog because she has the dog's mommy, and she has three other sheet suits, and I just, I love my dog so much that I wanted to be around all her family.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to take her away in LA just be alone with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I always get pictures and hear stories about how much she's happy and I love little dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's really it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm on the look, I got to get a girl, Rachel, what's going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, Dar, are we going to put you on bumble or run?
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just feel so weird doing that shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never done it.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, you know how that's how I met Dan on bumble.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I met him like four years ago, talked to him on the phone, then didn't talk to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never met him in person till like three years later or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what did it?
[SPEAKER_02]: What made you take the leap?
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the final, the final thing that you said?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think timing at the time was not right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, funny story, when he called me, I was living in the Hampton's for the summer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why it wasn't camp there or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Dan lived in Florida, but he owns like four security companies at the time it was two security companies.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, when we exchange numbers or whatever, I'm bumble.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, oh, I have a security company
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a CNN talk, we own a great conversation with really nice and I hang up and I'm like, I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't date the security guard.
[SPEAKER_00]: I date who's throwing the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize he was a CEO of major companies that are like weapons detection.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a security guard, but I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a real bitch back then.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't mean to be a bitch, but I just thought,
[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to be with a certain type of person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're very intimidated.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're intimidated.
[SPEAKER_02]: I told you this from day one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a beautiful woman, but you come with an intimidation fact and there are a lot of guys don't want to even test.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go after the most beautiful women in the family swimming in the world and I've been successful at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know there's sometimes you go, ah, this is going to be a fuck.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what she wants.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have what she wants.
[SPEAKER_02]: So why am I going to go into an even campaign?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: But I always knew like even not to bring up a saw subject, even the picture of you crying when you see that same was killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember going and you did interviews after that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, this fucking girl's very, I just something about this chick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said to you, a long time ago, what am I meant?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I was gonna know you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew I was gonna meet you and be friends with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know how, but I said, I know I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we became friends through all of my friendship and your friendship with the, well, I guess the daddies of the people I know, I know who you know that knew me, but it's through my friends, the daddies in New Jersey that we met.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't really remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was through the guy who owns podcast junkies Brian Howie?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, may but no, we will be also know we have friends in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we have a melt a million mutual fans Yeah, but I and I always thought yeah Rachel's gonna be good Rachel and then I'm wondering You know, I figured me for this show, but did you get an invite to Tiger's 50th
[SPEAKER_00]: I did that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to save this for you on my show because I want to ask you and I'll prepare you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be decent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to be how it's done, but I want to know how a man feels, it's going to be a very secure man to come at you.
[SPEAKER_02]: know what's in your past, respectively, about Tiger Woods.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like a man that's not really you know, equipped to handle that shit would fold.
[SPEAKER_02]: But your man must be very secure in himself that he doesn't care about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was old the long time ago, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is something that could but when I'm on your show, I'll say it for your show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you numerous stories of very powerful
[SPEAKER_00]: into too much alcohol or got upset with me about something.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing they would be triggered by is, well, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Personal golfer.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never will be so.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'm good enough or whatever, but I'll tell you some specifics too.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I said, I had my supermodel girlfriend in the 90s and then I we broke up after four or five years and still great friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a godmother of my daughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would date on the girls and if Sting starts to go bad, they'd say, sorry, I'm not a supermodel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it always comes down to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: For fuck's sake, I don't care what you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just hot, you're beautiful, you're funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Move on, just move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, it sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, AJ, it's always a pleasure to see you.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will continue to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to finally invite me on your ship.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to listen, give me, give me another Chicago and I promise, George can hold me to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get you on in next two weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about life marriage relationships.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I'm hanging on your relationships.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we have my friend, my friend Kenny who lives in Palm Beach with his wife Irina, who was a relationship expert and she's Russian.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's really, really smart and wonderful.
[SPEAKER_02]: And right, that last time I was in town, I was hoping that all of us to get together, but I couldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: But next time I go down and see them, I'll make a whole thing with you and your man and we'll get together and have a good time.
[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait.
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