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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. We got Kevin Stefanski fired an hour ago. Why was she fired?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's just like a water under the bridge type thing.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 5: They've been through a lot together over the last six years, and you know, this goes back, of course, the Deshaun Watson tray. They've done a lot of good things there. They made the playoffs in twenty they made the playoffs in twenty three, you know, and they had a really good roster he and he and Andrew Berry that they they inherited. Some of those guys that they inherited are still there, Miles, Garrett, Denzel Ward, Joel, Antonio.

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Speaker 3: Wyatt tell like top shelf guys, you know.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I just think like the inability to to to really to take the next step was part of it, right, and how that all tied to a single move. I mean, you think about the damage done by the Deshaun Watson trade, right. It kicks your kicks out, your ability to draft because you lose three first round picks. It kills your salary cap, and that keeps you from doing anything else, at least for a short period of time to fix the quarterback position. And so I think there's an acknowledgment in the building that everybody had their hands tied behind their backs because of the trade, and everybody's got blood on their hands because of it. I just think because of all that history that they had been through, and that that Kevin had been through with the players, you know, it seems to me like Jimmy just made this decision.

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Speaker 3: It's just tough to move forward with the status quo.

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Speaker 5: And so I will say this, it's going to be tough to find a better one than Kevin Stefanski. And I think everybody's going to find out over the next two or three days how much the rest of the league thanks to Stefanski with the amount of interest he's going to get from other teams.

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Speaker 2: Is there a chance Deshaun Watson's the starting quarterback for the Browns next year?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's impossible.

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Speaker 5: It's impossible to know for sure until we know with the coaches right if he's healthy and under contract. I mean that's the thing, like, so you've already so we already know that they're going to pay to Shaun Watson forty six million dollars for next year, right, Like if they cut him, somebody would sign him for the minimum, and so it would be forty five. It'd be like forty five million dollars, you know, So you're already sinking that into it. You've already sunk three first round picks into him, you know. I I think the worst thing for the Browns at this point would be feeling like, all right, like you know, we're gonna move on, and then having him go have great success somewhere else. So I could certainly see the logic and like saying, like, you know, we're paying him anyway, we might as well bring him back.

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Speaker 3: Here's the one caveat to that.

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Speaker 5: The one caveat to that for me would be if you are going to go all in on a young quarterback, right, and if there's somebody and I can't remember where they're pick is you have it in front of you, Dan, it's I think there's four or five somewhere in there, and right, they're not five. The Giants are five, but there's somewhere in there those six six. Okay, So like let's say they decide we're gonna go on them for Nato Mendoza or Dante more and somehow they get in position to draft one of them.

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Speaker 3: Then I can see where it's like, Okay.

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Speaker 5: It's just not worth it having that around, you know what I mean, like having kind of the ghost of quarterbacks past here in the building, you know, and you want to go with a clean slate for your young quarterback. But if the plan is to go and bring in you know, Kirk Cousins to compete with Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel next year, if it's something like that, then I don't I'm not sure I see the harm in taking one more swing at it with Deshaun Watson, just to make sure you got that wrong, even as every indication is that you have gotten wrong. And my understanding is just in the in the in the in the near term, like he's actually been pretty good, you know, in the building, and and and and and and through his rehab over the course of this season, So that would be the logic and taking a swing at it, and that you've already sunk so much into it, you're already paying him for next year, so why not give it a run again?

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Speaker 3: To me, like the one or the one the one.

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Speaker 5: The one caveat there would be if you've got a young quarterback that you want to go all in on, you might want to take him out of the equation just to give the new guy a clean environment.

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Speaker 2: Better opening. Atlanta or Cleveland, You.

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Speaker 3: Know, it depends on what you think of Michael Pennox.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like I I you know, you you would think that whoever's coming in there is going to have at least a year and maybe two years with Pennix. They both have pretty solid young cores. I think, you know, you look at Atlanta, a good veteran offensive line, one of the best players in all football in any position in b Jhon Robinson. I don't know if Kyle Pitts will be there, but it looks like he turned a corner. You've got some young pieces on defense that you like that you might like, you know, and the young ass rushers you know, Walker and Pierce that you drafted in the first round last year.

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Speaker 3: But you don't have a first round pick, And.

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Speaker 5: I think I probably maybe lean Cleveland because you get to do your thing at quarterback, right so you get to make your decision at quarterback You've got that great young draft class, and all those guys are going to be on rookie contracts for the next few years. And Mason Graham and Carson Schwessinger and Harold Finnon and the two running backs, Judkins and Samson, and you have.

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Speaker 3: Two first round picks.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so you've got the ability to kind of build there with the core. You have a couple of older pieces in Warden Garrett. I might lean Cleveland, but it's close. There's there that's not a bear cupboard.

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Speaker 3: In either place.

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Speaker 2: Albert Brier, the Monday Morning quarterback, you've senior NFL reporter. What should Vegas do?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I'd be surprised if Pete Carroll made it the day, you know, I think Vegas needs to figure out how they're going to be set up going forward. You know, I think Tom Brady's got to learn how to run a football team. And it sounds weird coming from me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's the greatest player of all time.

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Speaker 5: So I don't want to sound like like I don't want to sound like an idiot saying that, but I do think that there's parts of it that you know, people who work there.

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Speaker 2: So there's a difference between running and all different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, John Elway, I get to tell you this, John Elway, when he got back to Denver in twenty and eleven.

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Speaker 3: He eventually became kind of difficult to work for.

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Speaker 5: But at the beginning, like there was a very real acknowledgment on John's part of what he didn't know, you know, like and he really rolled his sleeves up and learned how to how to scout and how to evaluate and like that. You know, that isn't as simple as like, yeah, well, I you know, I played in the league for a couple of decades, so I have an idea of what I'm looking at. Of course you do, but it's not the same things as building a team and managing a football opper, you know, so you know it's going going forward. What's you know, what's his role in all of that is, is he committed to learning to run the show because a lot of people there refer to him as as the boss, you know, whether you know he's there day to day or not, and he's not their day to day. A lot of people there look at him as the boss of the football operation. So there's that piece of it. You know, how does Alex Guerrero fit into that. There's a bunch of people in that building who report Alex Guerrero. How does you know John Spytech, the general manager. I you know, I expect he'll be back. You know, what's his role in picking the coach? And and then how does the coach fit into the mosaic of all of that? You know, I think like a huge part of the issue this year was they kind of pieced everything together right, Like so it was like, all right, like, let's put together an all star staff, Like we love Packgrahm as the DC. He's going to work with Pete Carroll, who, by the way, has run a completely different defensive system. And now like let's go get Chip Kelly out of Ohio State for six million dollars per year and let's show our micy we can go and get these sorts of guys.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a new day for the Raiders. Well, how did all those pieces fit together? You know, I think that's the biggest.

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Speaker 5: Piece of this is Like, so now with Tom Brady, you know, you know, ostensibly like the guy who is in charge, how what does that look like going forward?

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Speaker 3: And how do all those pieces fit together?

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Speaker 5: To me, that's the biggest piece of what I think will be a coaching search coming up here in the next few days and weeks, is like, how does the coach fit into what you've built? Otherwise, are you reconfiguring anything any of what you've.

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Speaker 3: Already got there?

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Speaker 5: There are big picture questions that the Raiders need to answer and obviously a very very big decision coming in April when it comes to what to do with the first overall pick.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady a better broad counster or owner broadcaster?

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Speaker 5: Now, I'd say, I mean, we'll see as ownership. I mean, I would say there are there are so many people that have been so intelligent that have been humbled moving into ownership roles. You know, you know I always get that question, like, how can this guy who built this empire in business? Now I know what he's doing in football. I'm sure you have too, right, Like I get that question. It's not the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Mets owner, he just thinks I can buy I buy everything right. In the NFL, you can't buy everything right.

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Speaker 3: And and and a lot of them get humbled.

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Speaker 5: I mean, every one of them comes in and We're gonna be the Microsoft in football, you know what I mean, Like, and we're going to reinvent everything. And that's why you see so many of these owners like stock up on analytics when they first, you know, get in the role. It's like, oh, all of these idiots like are hiring gym teachers and we're gonna do it a different way. Well, like there's an art to how this whole thing works and how you put the whole thing together, and it's not as easy. It's just saying I'm gonna throw money at the problem and I'm going to apply the lessons I learned in my other business. This is a unique business, you know. So like I do think like Tom's got some some I think he's he's he's got some He's got a lot to learn when it comes to being in that role top you know, an organization, and you know Mark Davis has empowered him to be a big voice in that organization. He's gotta he's got to find his voice. I actually think he's gotten really good at broadcasting too. Dan, Like I I was skeptical at first, Like I thought is as great as he is, Like you know, he I think at the beginning was like a little and I'm not you know, I guess we you know if I don't know if you want the media conversation here.

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Speaker 3: But he's a little he could be a little stuff that first year.

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Speaker 5: And I think he's really kind of found his way with that, you know, like I think he's gotten really really good at calling games.

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Speaker 2: I don't even notice it anymore, like like I don't really care who's doing a game, you know, I used to, you know, where it was mad and doing it. It just feels like there's, you know, this plethora of football that they're just a lot of voices that are there. Yeah, now there's some that do it better than others, but I'm not watching. I couldn't tell you what game Tom did this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look that's the thing for me too.

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Speaker 5: It is like I'll get a better idea of the whole thing when we get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I'm following so much.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly like I have a better idea of how you know, herb Street and Collinsworth an Aikman call a game just because they're standalone games. Like there's just I'm paying attention to too much. Like in those one o'clock at four o'clock windows on a Sunday, So it's hard for me to really dive in. But what I have seen a Brady, it does seem like he's gotten really good. And I I, you know, I remember hearing this a couple of years ago that he was studying Johnny Miller and trying to learn how to be critical, and I thought that was really interesting, you know, So I do think he's taking the job seriously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I talked to somebody who's friends with him, and he even said, hey, would you talk to Tom? I said, Tom doesn't need my input, and then he said, well, what would you tell him? I would say, don't try to be too structural, like like, this is fun, have fun, you know, pick your spots, you know, say what you need to say, give us insight, tell us things that we don't know. We don't a lot of times I found out that these guys who played don't know that we don't know something, and they'll be like, oh you know this, Oh you know what, watch that. I would never think that. And I think the more that Tom doesn't sound try to sound like an analyst, the better that he'll be like you know, Collinsworth and Herb Street, Aikman, Tony, you know, they kind of go, you know what, I'm just going to be myself and that's really hard to do. They tell people in this business, just be yourself. Yeah, I've been working for forty years trying to figure out who I am, So I can't expect Tom to be himself. He may not know who he is as a person in the spotlight.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you because I remember when I started doing TV, you know, twenty years ago. I remember somebody telling me you want to be almost like one and a half of yourself, and so then there's a tendency to get out there and be mister announcer guy with everything and try to enunciate everything correctly and all that different stuff. And you know, I sort of like I tell younger people now who ask me, I'm like, there'll be a point when you feel like mister announcer guy, and then there'll be a point when you're talking to a camera and you.

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Speaker 3: Start to feel like yourself.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like that's when you're starting to get it right, Like when you're doing both when it's like, yeah, I'm not talking like i'd normally be talking to my friends, but I do sound like myself.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. In my job, part of my job is to make you forget that you're on TV or on radio, which you're pretty good. So we just have a conversation like that. That's the goal each time, all right, before I let you go other possible openings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, you know, I think the Dolphins want to move forward with Mike McDaniel. I know their meeting and recapping the season here today. I don't anticipate anything today, but in the next couple of days, you know, I think they'll make that decision, and you know they're going to have a little bit of a different structure of Brandon Shore has been elevated there. He's you know, he's reporting directly to ownership. That's their cap guy. So they're gonna have like sort of a three headed monster, or they're gonna hire the new GM will be a scouting.

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Speaker 2: Type and they'll move on from TUA in Miami.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's likely. Yeah, I think that's likely.

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Speaker 5: I do think McDaniel's fate could be tied and at least in some way to maybe what's available out there. You know, does Stefanski is now available? Does John Harball become available? So that's something and I'm just kind of like looking through some of my notes.

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Speaker 2: Does John Harball become available?

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Speaker 5: I think that's a little bit of a coin flip right now. You know, I think you have those discussions. I wouldn't move on from him if I were the Ravens, but I would say this. I had people there tell me that they believe this is the best roster they'd ever had going into the season, that level of expectation with the team, You've got a looming contract negotiat with Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: There's just a.

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Speaker 5: Lot to sort through and digging out from underneath the season there, And you know, I think that that.

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Speaker 3: Provokes those big picture questions.

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Speaker 5: So I wouldn't say I'm one hundred percent one way or the other on the Ravens. The Cardinals, I'd expect they're going to hang on to their general manager, Monty Austin for it. They really like Jonathan Gannon, their head coach. Obviously, they end the season the way they've ended, which I don't think they've won a game since September October.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think and they move on from Kyler Murray as well.

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Speaker 5: I think, well, I think with Gannon, the thing is like I think it may come down to and Gannon's a really loyal guy. I wonder if they ask him to make changes on his coaching staff and that leads to something.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen that before, so you know, does does does he go.

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Speaker 5: Down with the ship? I think that that's a fair question. Kyler Murray's future is certainly tied.

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Speaker 3: To all of that.

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Speaker 2: You know as well, and about real quick before I before I have to go more likely to move on from their team Harball in Baltimore or Tomlin in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: Right now because the Steelers are in I would say Harbaugh in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: But if they lose that game at home, it's weird they make that kick.

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Speaker 5: If they made I know's the thing about Here's the thing about the Steelers, though, Dan. The Steelers have TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward, Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers. All these guys are older players, right, and so a pretty pretty substantial reset is coming. That's when that conversation happens, right, Like, Dud, does Mike Tomlin want to go through a two or a three or four year rebuild, right, Do the Steelers see him as the voice they want in there leading that rebuild.

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Speaker 3: If you're Tomlin, do you look at it and say what I do?

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Speaker 5: Do I want to do that or do I want to take a year in TV and then maybe go to a situation in twenty seven that's a little bit more ready made because their season is still going on. I don't think they fully confronted those questions, you know, I think both are you know again like I that those are those are two more where I just I think, you know, Baltimore and Pittsburgh are both a little bit up in the air. But that's what you get when guys have been in those positions for as long as John and Mike have been.

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Speaker 2: Gary Danielson, longtime CBS college football analyst, final broadcast New Year's Eve with Arizona State and Duke, former NFL quarterback as well. Does it feel like you're retired?

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Speaker 7: Not really, because I usually have, you know, these three or four or five months off before I get going. However, and it was a year long, really nice schedule. In fact that every game we did, I was treated royally, saluted heart from everybody I've ever known every week basically, and I know our crew and the CBS family went out of their way to make it a great finish for me.

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Speaker 2: The Army Navy game, you know, that brings out the best in you. What is it about that game?

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Speaker 7: I guess in a world that's so transactional for everybody, including me, When I was you know, working my way and trying to make the NFL, I mean, I was just so focused on trying to make that league that I grew up wanting to do. These are all players that have dedicated their life to something more than just themselves and their careers. They dedicated their lives to their country. But in contrast and along with that, they cared so much about football.

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Speaker 6: And everybody involved in that game.

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Speaker 7: Because of that, cared so much about making that presentation special for them, and the game seemed to always deliver.

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Speaker 6: You know, when I first started doing.

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Speaker 7: It, it was the first year it was a standalone game, and I think the country kind of learned to love that game. I don't know how much longer it's going to be there, but I feel such when I did those games, an added sense of responsibility to send those guys off because they loved the game so much.

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Speaker 2: Did the College football Playoff Committee get it right?

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Speaker 6: I think so?

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Speaker 7: I mean, said argue k who was the fourth or fifteen or the you know who's the tenth, eleventh.

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Speaker 6: Twelve, thirteenth team. As they got bigger, Dan, I think you can agree with this.

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Speaker 7: They're becoming a thinner and thinner difference between who could be in the playoffs or not. Usually, when there was two teams, it was pretty easy maybe one other team.

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Speaker 6: When there were four teams.

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Speaker 7: It usually was what conference doesn't get their champion involved? And now it was you know, whether a game in August mattered to determine who played in January or the end of December. So I think for the most part, everybody involved took it seriously.

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Speaker 6: I do think it could be improved. Everything could be improved.

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Speaker 7: I think the home field advantage, I know, talking to a lot of coaches off the record, felt that would be better to play a home game in the first round then get a buy and I think that's proven out. I thought Ohio State was a little flat in their game. So I'm not taking anything away from everybody, but for the most part, you know, people like I think watching games of consequence. You know, that's what I started off doing in my whole broadcasting career, ended up the last twenty at CBS. But it felt like every Saturday in the SEC for eighteen years, we were the.

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Speaker 6: Center of attention. If people like to watch games like.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I just wonder where we're going, because you know, we're talking March madness where we want to well, not me, but it feels like we want to expand there's more money there even with college football. We haven't got to sixteen. We haven't been at twelve very long. Now we're talking sixteen, which will probably happen next year. Then they're going to extrapolate and go, well, why don't we go to twenty four? Like, I just don't know what the number is. I remember when March Madness was thirty two teams Gary, right, we never stop, We never you know, the NFL was going to move to eighteen games. This is what we do. So I wonder college football, where do you see us in five years?

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Speaker 7: I think it will at least be so six teams, and it could be bigger than that, where eight teams get to buy and they include more. I don't know exactly how it'll be, but here's what I feel overall about this. Freedom and capitalism have a great way of figuring things out okay, and it ends up going to the perfect spot, the perfect price point. And you know, it used to be unless you had a major conglomate around you.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you started was through ESPN.

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Speaker 7: And now guys like you or Pat McAfee or people starting podcasts, they have the freedom to go out there and build their own brand and do what they have to do, and I thought college football kind of got stuck, where all the great players were gravitating to eight, ten, twelve schools. I remember I did a seminar at CBS maybe four or five years ago, and they asked us to pick our top ten going into twenty twenty nineteen or something like that. And I went and sought out the Old Life magazine when they had their preer Sports Illustrated preseason top ten from the year I graduated from high school, and eight of the ten teams were the exact same ten teams that were preseason this year. And I put it up as my top ten, and there was a team that didn't belong. And what do you do when I go, Oh, I'm sorry, I put the wrong one up. I think it's better now.

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Speaker 6: Is it perfect?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: But here's another thing.

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Speaker 7: Because there's more money in it, Basically, more of these athletes are training harder, they're getting individual teachers, they're going out and having seven on seven leagues, and there's just a lot more players that were stuck in Division two or in the MAC that are now getting their chance to go to these major colleges that we watch on TV.

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Speaker 6: They're not all bad football players.

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Speaker 4: So me.

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Speaker 7: Trinidad Chambliss, great example. My buddy covered him in high school football when he was in the state championship, said he was good but not ready for Michigan. Well he went to Ferris put in a couple more years and look where he is now. So I just feel there's more opportunity. And I think it's better than having Georgia Texas Ohio State having three good quarterbacks and six goods offensive tackles that those guys spread out.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think there's that much bad about it.

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Speaker 2: Longtime CBS college football analyst Gary Danielson joining us CAN this year's Hoosiers supplant the movie Hoosiers the basketball team is a better story.

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Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 7: That's a great question. And I just saw that Bobby Plump was just at the Butler game eighty nine years old. I don't know if he saw that little clip of him, you know, and she looked like he could still shoot.

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Speaker 6: To me, the way he was waving his hand around, that would be tougher.

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Speaker 7: I think doing a story about six people and a coach is harder than doing it.

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Speaker 6: You know, for as many as there.

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Speaker 7: But hey, listen, we've all I mean, I'm a Purdue guy, you know, and I see I you fans.

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Speaker 6: Everywhere, and I'm a bit jealous and I'm a bit in awe at the same time that, you know, I couldn't have that storyline when I was playing, because it is.

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Speaker 7: And I see the fans and they're so proud, and they got their IU jerseys on their hats, and I kid them a little bit by selling them that this would be basketball jerseys and basketball hats right now, But no, they are all in and they're really, really a good football team.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 7: I turned on their tape to do the Oregon game when they played at Oregon, and I'm just like, they were considered a fraud from twenty twenty four of their finish, and I thought it would have been hard for anybody to go into Ohio State or go into Notre Dame and beat them. And the more you watch those games, they weren't frauds, but they weren't ready for the big time stage yet. And I just thought they were focused this year and they when I put on the tape and watched the different layers, how the defensive linemen worked for the linebreckers, the three linebackers, they have. I mean, it's like watching the old Pittsburgh Steelers with Lambert and you know those guys, and I mean, they're really, really good football players, and they got a special quarterback and a coach that knows how to lead them. I don't listen to all four teams could easily win these games and win the championship. But I know Oregon will be really very focused for this football game. When Indiana beat them last time in Oregon, which is a tough place to play, Oregon was just coming off of their celebration for beating Penn State, and honestly, when we did our interviews, I was struck about that. They really couldn't get off the Penn State story. They were so proud of going there winning with one hundred and ten thousand, and they seemed to not take ie you serious. I think they're gonna take them serious.

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Speaker 2: For this guy, best college player you ever saw, I.

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Speaker 7: Would have to say Cam Newton to tell you, and I've seen a bunch of great ones. I thought he had a team that might have won four or.

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Speaker 9: Five games without him, and he led him in the SEC. I knew of him when he was at Florida and when he left.

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Speaker 6: I've seen a bunch of them that were great, no doubt about it.

00:27:25
Speaker 7: But if I had to pick one in one season, what he did, I thought cam was amazing in that year. I think the highest NIL player, if they were in today's world, for his four years.

00:27:39
Speaker 6: Would have been Tim Tebow.

00:27:40
Speaker 7: He broke out my first year in two thousand and six, won the Heisman and seven and stayed all four years.

00:27:46
Speaker 6: I think he could have made a lot of money for you the game today.

00:27:50
Speaker 2: Can college football have a commissioner?

00:27:54
Speaker 6: It's a great question, and I don't know. It's funny.

00:27:56
Speaker 7: I have a really good friend that runs a managing partner for a law firm all over the state of Florida, and he's a big college football fan, And I said, Mike, you could take your three smartest lawyers and bring three or four of the best football college football minds into a room, and I think you'd have a tough time figuring out how to put someone in charge with all the different and all the way people have. What's important to the big ten or the big twelve is that important?

00:28:27
Speaker 6: You know?

00:28:28
Speaker 7: Everybody has their own dynamics of what will make this thing go and to make it fair like the NFL, where you know, things go, then the Big ten and the SEC.

00:28:38
Speaker 6: Would have to seed a lot of power and I don't know if they're willing to do that.

00:28:42
Speaker 2: Thank you for caring, appreciate it.

00:28:46
Speaker 6: I would like to say that, you know, our.

00:28:52
Speaker 7: Our end was not exactly the way we've planned it, okay, and a lot of people put a lot of work into it. Just like any person, I was very focused on what I wanted to say at the end, and we got squished a little bit in time, and it was really nobody's fault, probably me.

00:29:10
Speaker 6: I was the last one that had the mic, you know, and I could have got.

00:29:12
Speaker 4: It, but.

00:29:16
Speaker 7: It was really what I just wanted to compose myself and think my families, you know, my football families, the teams that I was on, you know, my Purdue family, my Lion family, my Browns family, my ABC ESPN family.

00:29:33
Speaker 6: I did not thank them.

00:29:34
Speaker 7: There's thirty forty fifty people that I could have thanked in those sixteen years, and of course my CBS family. And I also wanted to tell Charles Davis, who's taking my spot, that this crew turned head over heels for make my last year great, and that last day great, and that Todd's likely sat in the seat before me. I've been lucky enough for twenty years, and these people will all do this work for you. Good luck, Charles is a great seat to have.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: Awesome, but it takes too long though. Yeah, I was gonna cut you off. Gary, you were going too long.

00:30:10
Speaker 7: You know what, you know what they do to a quarterback if you rush them, they throw interceptions.

00:30:14
Speaker 6: And I threw an interception.

00:30:15
Speaker 2: Uh, good luck in whatever's next. But thank you, thank you, We appreciate it, Gary, Thanks thanks for having me. Gary Danielson, longtime CBS college football analysts.

00:30:24
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00:30:36
Speaker 2: He might be a Hall of Famer, he might be one of the best NFL analysts in America, but he was not able to beat Jaye Chandler and Derry Ann in the high school championship game. Steve Young joining us on the program.

00:30:51
Speaker 4: Hi, Steve, beautiful, Dan, thank you, Yeah, yeah, back toyall Grwich High School. All us patching record to my brothers. So you have to add a little bit more ignotomy? Is that right?

00:31:08
Speaker 2: Whatever what happened? I mean, Jade Chandler went out to Princeton, notable career in finance.

00:31:17
Speaker 4: You know, Dan, it's a question that I wasn't ready for. I think that uh uh, the the blue waves of Darienn. Uh just outclastics that day. I don't know what else to say.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: I don't know what which Which town is Richer, Greenwich or Darienn.

00:31:37
Speaker 4: He look, I told you a thousand times. I grew up in the mean streets of Greweck. I battled my way out of there. Do not try to change my narrative.

00:31:48
Speaker 2: Uh, you had tattered vineyard vine shirts, didn't you?

00:31:51
Speaker 1: Like?

00:31:52
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:31:56
Speaker 4: People, you know, I played with my you know, I played a lot of guys, you know, from all over the time. They're like, where are you from? Frewich, Connecticut? And what's that like? Man, it's tough. It's I try to play it up because if they ever found out, all.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, let's handicap this. If you had to pick between well, I'm gonna leave the Niners out of this, Seahawks and Rams. They have the two best odds to win the Super Bowl. Who would you pick right now?

00:32:23
Speaker 4: Well, watching the Seahawks at the day, I think just momentous. I don't know just how they're playing right the second. Uh, I feel like the Seahawks were built, uh, defensively to just I mean they're just vicious. And then the way they're running the football and bad weather and as long as look to me, as long as Sam doesn't turn it over, which has been a huge problem this year, they're going to be just fine. I mean, I'd be a heck of a game right now. I'm gonna be honest with you. But and look, Matthew Stafford is abusing the system today. I mean he we'll talked about before he grew up in a more sophisticated era. He is just everybody's open in his mind, you know, like everything's just and then uh, you know who is doing his I mean it's just there's that'd be a great game, and uh, it's unfortunate I won't be a super Bowl because of course they're both the NFC. But right now both are playing really well.

00:33:20
Speaker 2: I did think about this with Miles Garrett setting the single season sack record of LT and Reggie White are probably considered the two greatest defensive players of all time. Would you would you say that.

00:33:34
Speaker 4: I would say yes to that, and I would say Reggie was unique. Both of them were unique. But Reggie is. You had to meet Reggie to know that he was six six three. His football card said two ninety, which tells me that he was four hundred. Like you know, you didn't you know, you're a liar, uh, But he was all of it like he was. He was He shouldn't play quarterback. I mean, he's just that great athlete. Uh. Not taking any away from LT, but you had to you had to meet Reggie, you had to play against him. You had to hear him, you know, screaming as he like he snapped the balls at hood and you know, you hear him, and here he comes, he's he's throwing people out of the way, and and then there you know, there he was.

00:34:20
Speaker 2: So is he the greatest defensive player of all time? Like people want to put Miles Garrett in that conversation, and I want to be fair to Miles as well, but Reggie to me was and and me and Joe Green was probably in there as well. I know that was before you were playing, but l LT changed the game.

00:34:39
Speaker 4: I mean, LT was all of that so doing. Look, we can talk about LT for five minutes if you want to as well, But I I saw Reggie so much, you know, just he was just so he's just one of a kind. And I'm LT was as well. But yeah, Miles is. Look, the problem with Miles is he plays with the Cleveland Browns and no one gets to really appreciate how singular he is, and especially in this time of year. I mean, you know, Reggie and l team made a lot of their money and a lot of their reputation in January February, you know, and that's just that's that's the game, right, That's where you really do make reputation. So that's what's Uh. You know, I even talking about Miles of I want to see him play next week, you know what I mean, I want to see him. Uh when when you know, just it's all on the line and there he is, you know, so that's only different. It feels like.

00:35:33
Speaker 2: How much do you hear these guys? You said you could hear Reggie White, but like I'm thinking you got tunnel vision and tunnel hearing, but there were certain guys you could hear.

00:35:44
Speaker 4: Nah, Yeah, it's pretty you're right. It's like a lot of white noise and behind you. You know, like even even the crowd feels like it's just a mind, you know, it's a faceless or kind of thing. Like I just to me, you're right, But Reggie was you need because look all week long Wednesday morning, he was like, Okay, we play the Packers, who play the Eagles and uh Reggie wife of Tennessee six six three forty and uh yeah, you can't lock them, and what.

00:36:12
Speaker 6: Are we gonna do?

00:36:13
Speaker 4: Well, the six guys, it will just surround him, you know, and then go up the other don't worry about the just take Reggie. So then you talk about it all week, right, and the linemen are all getting fired up. And then uh and so because of that, he was just he was always focused on and then he he was he's screened. But he had a boy like I can't make a voice like his, Like you can't go that deep, you know, see I you know, and so you could hear him screaming, and then you could hear him coming. Then he was there, and uh, you know, I always make fun of it, but it is kind of funny, like you drought back and you're like, oh, here we are you know it was great. He was he was a friend. He we didn't see each other very often. He had a chance of off. You're great friends. When we're coming out of college together, my dad helped him find an agent, and we were kind of got very close, and so all the time we played. He didn't give me an inch. He was coming for it. But then as soon as he got me, hold me Paul back and he's like, Steve, how you doing that. I'm like, I'm not right now, parents here tonight. I'm like, right, Chie, I don't want.

00:37:22
Speaker 2: To talk to you right now, we're talking to the Hall of Famer Steve Young. The Raiders have just fired Pete Carroll.

00:37:31
Speaker 4: What do they expect, Well, Pete, you know, listen, pizza organized guy. Pete is inspired. You know, he's his inspiration. He I think you in today's game, you have you look at the playoffs. It is Sean Peyton, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid and any from the fruit of those coaching trees is dominating the NFL today. Offensively, and you know, offensively is the game they keep changing the rules against. Defense. Defense is important, There's no question. I mean, there's some great defense out there despite it all, but the game is dominated by innovative, young offensive minds. And so you know, I love Pete. He's one of my favorite guy's favorite coaches. And I don't think I still think he could do it, but he's got to get that help around him that responds to what's happening right now today, and and then you gotta have the talent and you have no Look, we keep I always saved Dan. There's equity owners in the NFL. They're untouchable because they're the equity owners, like you can't they're they're the most hot fireable people in America. Are the quarterback number one, the coach number two, and the general manager number three. And the guy that cannot be fired is the guy that's the most impactful is the owner. And I think, uh, you know, you got to get that straight now too, because as you keep going around to care, look at the Jets, look at the teams that just keep going around in a carousel failure, they have to they have to look at themselves. At some point.

00:39:09
Speaker 2: The Browns fired Kevin Stefanski. I'm wondering, if you're a coach, how you're going into a situation where do you know if you have a quarterback, did you get enough of a sample size with Shadoor Sanders where you're not you're not going to take the job because of shood Or but are you walking into a situation where you might be playing shoodh or Sanders.

00:39:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's you know, it's tough right now because it's a developmental project and he is a project, and he's got a lot of talent. So and you don't know how projects are always going to turn out. Let's look at Drake May. They took that's a project, but that's not a project anymore. And uh, and so that's the tough spot. Like I just said, if you're a young innovative mind coming from one of those coaching trees that's figured it out, it's felt that it's seen it. Uh, and then you have somebody who could play h Look what happened in Chicago, Look what happened in Jacksonville, Look what happened even in Carolina a little bit. I mean it's better than it was. You're in a pretty good spot. But you know, if you've got someone new that is unproven, you really don't have a chance unless you have look at the playoffs. Again, look with this weekend and look at the guys that are leading it and the dynamic and should or has that dynamic play in him. But he's gonna need he needs innovative minds to come teach him and take out the full measure of who he is. Right now, we just don't know what that is.

00:40:31
Speaker 2: Seventy three games were decided by three points or less this season. That's tied for the second most in NFL history. Is that a good thing?

00:40:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, league loves it, that's what they want.

00:40:43
Speaker 2: Well, I know the league loves it because they they want parody. They want a team like Carolina to make the play They want everybody to have hope. Yeah, and their games are always close.

00:40:54
Speaker 4: They want that. And again, in the name of safety, we've changed the game. Uh, and I think it probably has been. They responded to that. They were afraid that someone was going to die in the field. A few people keep launching them bodies as missiles into each other, and so they they changed the game, slowed it down. And despite the speed and the athleticism, it's it's just a more wide open game. And it's and I've I've said this for since they've made the changes. It's like the NBA more and more even it gets more and more like that. Look at the Pittsburgh Baltimore game last night, Like look, it's it's the big names in the game, the closers with a minute and a half or two minutes left, and that's like, oh, it's on and then down the field, down the field, down the field, score score score. That wasn't the way the game was before you had ten point lead the fourth quarter he kind of locked it up. Now it's like it's just and and it's like the NBA, if you have a closer, you've got a chance, and you're better than better than none. So the fact that more games that finish him at three points, that's kind of where the game is today. It's wide open, it's wild, it's awesome. Anyone before any of us older guys are like, dang, I said this, do you make time like I I don't want to?

00:42:11
Speaker 2: Okay, did you say that you could play in the NFL now recently.

00:42:16
Speaker 4: If it was Hunger Games and it was like you have to go out there before you you're dead, you die, you know, I could throw a screen, I could throw something, I mean, but but yeah, I could still throw it around a little bit. You feel like, oh, I've been getting killed on that, Like, no, suit me up. I'm not ready to go get But if it was so, it was that or die.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: Okay. If I had a draft of quarterbacks over the age of fifty five, are you going number one?

00:42:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm.

00:43:00
Speaker 4: Like a nutcase. This is where are you going with it? I tell like crazy, man? I know, yeah, yeah, I am number Like in the supplemental draft, number.

00:43:07
Speaker 2: One, Brett fav Is fifty six. Do you think you're a better quarterback now than far of it? Yeah?

00:43:21
Speaker 4: I don't know. Houses are you know?

00:43:23
Speaker 2: Oh you've seen those in the backyard. He's killing people throwing Jerry Rice. You're a guy.

00:43:29
Speaker 4: I can still.

00:43:32
Speaker 2: He took Jerry Rice from you.

00:43:35
Speaker 4: I can still escape.

00:43:37
Speaker 2: You need copper fit is what you need?

00:43:39
Speaker 4: The motion escape.

00:43:44
Speaker 2: Any problem with any any problem with Troy Aikman helping the Dolphins find a head coach.

00:43:52
Speaker 4: You've heard me complain about this, how football's dumb. We don't we don't take I mean, we asked players. We used to watch the draft and watch our team draft and go and then we go to the first mini camp and we looked around in fifteen minutes, Everyone's like, honey, sucks, you know, and it's like, well, how is it that we know that? How is it that we like they have scouting deep deep bench of scouts throughout the year, all over the country, shifting through everything, and you don't draw on the guys.

00:44:25
Speaker 2: Wait, you can tell in fifteen minutes when you first saw a draft pick.

00:44:31
Speaker 4: Okay, I might be conflating it slightly, Okay, but the idea is true.

00:44:37
Speaker 2: You knew Jerry Rice was going to be great the first fifteen minutes you saw, You.

00:44:43
Speaker 4: Saw that, everyone can see everyone. E's got to go through what we get that is the NFL. But you can just tell the guy who loves the game as the aptitude for it, it's got that talent, that that that you know, all the intangibles that we play it with, things that you can't even explain. And the idea that we don't draw on that, Uh, it feels crazy to me and like, why aren't we have And that's not every guy on the team had that sensibility, but there's always a handful of guys that you'd want to have in the room.

00:45:16
Speaker 2: Why aren't you a team president?

00:45:20
Speaker 4: I don't know I ran from the game. I don't know. I just we That's what Roger Starbeck told me to do. He said, Uh I do I? Roger? What do I?

00:45:27
Speaker 1: What do you?

00:45:27
Speaker 4: What's the advice for transition? He goes, run, you know, will run wire. Let's just run away. The game will never leave you, but you got to leave it.

00:45:35
Speaker 2: And uh, would you like to be involved in an organization?

00:45:39
Speaker 4: I think everybody who played probably has a sense that they could be helpful.

00:45:44
Speaker 2: You know, have the Niners reach out to you?

00:45:46
Speaker 4: Run it? And if you could run like John Lynch, my good buddy's running the forty nine ers. Why are you know there's a there's a there's a spirit to it. Why the forty nine ers are back in the playoffs again the last eight years since they were there? The record Shannan and John Lynch? I mean, and it's not everybody who played is successful at that job. But you asked me about Troyman helping the Miami Dolphins. I'm like, yeah, that can't that can't be a bad idea.

00:46:14
Speaker 2: Troy is fifty nine? Are you a better quarter run up?

00:46:18
Speaker 4: I can spin out and make a play, you.

00:46:20
Speaker 2: Know the come on, come on, are you a better quarterback than Marino.

00:46:29
Speaker 4: Oh you know what, I went to my senior year. I went to the recruiter ship to Army UH West Point and they played pitt freshman quarterback Dan Marino throw a laser about forty yards right in front of me as a senior in ice club, like, hobly, this is this is what college.

00:46:47
Speaker 6: Is like finished.

00:46:51
Speaker 2: And Marino's what he didn't move when he played, so he's gonna be standing back. He's sixty four. Marino could probably still direct the like a two minute drill.

00:47:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be playing. It's like it's something to be all old guy. That's amazing.

00:47:07
Speaker 2: I didn't even throw Montana in there.

00:47:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know, look to me the game. That's what happens with the changes in the game. When Tom Brady told me four or five years ago, and it was in Tampa, we were on the field before the game to go see the game is amazing, Right, It's changed so much, like the flats are always open, the middle of the field that's unpatrolled and no one can hit me. So the fact that anyone that's ever played before would say, oh, put me in you know, So that's that's just a natural thing. It's not like where I get off my lawn kind of old guy like. It's just like you see the game today, and you see the game that I played in the game that's being played today, and all the guys in the playoffs this year they have to run around. It's it's normal. It's not an audity. It's a beautiful thing. Like you're you're better than ever if you're you know it used to be your scramble. You're I can't stand you. You run around now like you know, it's all came. It's like I'm missed it by twenty years now.

00:48:05
Speaker 2: Rogers Stallback is eighty three.

00:48:08
Speaker 4: He could.

00:48:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, good to talk to you once again.

00:48:16
Speaker 6: Uh.

00:48:17
Speaker 2: Not a better high school player apparently than Jay Chandler, but.

00:48:21
Speaker 4: Drey Chandler right now somewhere calling all his buddies, like I knew I always get my time. My moment.

00:48:27
Speaker 2: The blue wave of Derry Anne dominated you.

00:48:30
Speaker 6: Wow.

00:48:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hey, you know Granwich High School State champs again this year, State champs again. So let's I'm just gonna spin it back on top of it. Damn.

00:48:41
Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, see buddy, Steve Young