The Duskbloods Still Set for 2026

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Games Mornings with Me Jeff Grub
<v Speaker 1>your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're gonna be talking about another game
<v Speaker 1>launching to glowing reviews and is From Software's next big
<v Speaker 1>release actually gonna come out this year. It's gonna be
<v Speaker 1>a good one because we have Janet Jubble on the show.
<v Speaker 3>Jan how are you doing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little eepy, I'm a little tired, and then
<v Speaker 2>I forget that. I'm going to North Carolina tomorrow.
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. Look, you're gonna have a good time to
<v Speaker 1>get to That's that's knuck up on us. I think
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these things are sneaking up on us now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, SGF in particular, sneaking up on us. And
<v Speaker 2>the next thing, you know, Greb, who knows, we might
<v Speaker 2>be back in Jersey talking about whatever the game of
<v Speaker 2>the year is.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly right. It's just gonna fly by.
<v Speaker 1>I mean we're gonna be halfway through the year here,
<v Speaker 1>not too long after Summer Game Fest. It's just going
<v Speaker 1>very very quickly, like it always has been recently, and
<v Speaker 1>I know part of that is just getting older. The
<v Speaker 1>time does just start to fly. Uh doesn't mean I
<v Speaker 1>have to like it, Jan, I don't like it. I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna put my foot down. I'm against it, all right.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like debating about talking about this this thing publicly, Jan,
<v Speaker 1>I got I feel like I should. I could just
<v Speaker 1>tell you and you don't have to tell anybody else, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's just you and I right now. This
<v Speaker 2>is this is our rehearsal run for game. This morning
<v Speaker 2>is where we test out all of our.
<v Speaker 3>Jokes, right I.
<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, you know they say, like like your
<v Speaker 1>car or your computer, it's not yours until you bleed
<v Speaker 1>on it. I would say that the d d R
<v Speaker 1>pad that I just bought and it now belongs to me,
<v Speaker 1>I was going a bit too hard this morning, and
<v Speaker 1>it's got those sharp metal edges and I definitely got
<v Speaker 1>that right between like my toe and the and the
<v Speaker 1>ball of my foot and kind of kind of cut
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit and I didn't realize it at first.
<v Speaker 1>So I was dancing with a bloody, bloody pad on
<v Speaker 1>there a little bit and then like I look down,
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that doesn't look right and it feels kind
<v Speaker 1>of sticky.
<v Speaker 3>Uh oh, so look.
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tell people because I don't want
<v Speaker 1>people like hell, but you have to be careful. Don't
<v Speaker 1>worry about me. I'm fine, but it was just a
<v Speaker 1>dumb ass thing to do. And then, uh, the thing
<v Speaker 1>it's a metal pad.
<v Speaker 3>Jan.
<v Speaker 1>I could wear shoes, yeah, like that's the whole I could,
<v Speaker 1>and I should be. I just you know, I like
<v Speaker 1>to do you have like strengthened in my feet and
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. I'll go barefoot. No, I should just
<v Speaker 1>be wearing shoes so I don't get hurt.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Greb, I forgot to tell you we're
<v Speaker 2>not actually doing the dry run joke, goofing run of
<v Speaker 2>games mornings. It's just the show now.
<v Speaker 3>Shit. Sorry, Nah, I got all cleaned up everybody. We're good.
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing is you want to cut a rug, not.
<v Speaker 3>Cutting yah foot, Not cut your foot on the rug.
<v Speaker 3>I'm still gonna be doing this every day. I like.
<v Speaker 3>I like dancing in the morning.
<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel better about myself and honestly makes
<v Speaker 1>me feel better about all you.
<v Speaker 2>Grub I don't know if you've ever seen what like
<v Speaker 2>a peloton class looks like or one of those online
<v Speaker 2>like workout programs, but I think we should do a
<v Speaker 2>goof of one with a ddrpad.
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, not a bad idea where I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>really encouraging people to just break it down. I could
<v Speaker 1>bring that energy I am. I do kind of have
<v Speaker 1>those barefoot shoes people are saying you can do that.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like the individual like sleeve for each toe,
<v Speaker 1>but it is like the wide base and the heels
<v Speaker 1>right on the ground stuff like that. I could just
<v Speaker 1>wear those, and I think I will be all right.
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<v Speaker 3>Hello YouTube.
<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the morning mess with Fortsah Horizon six reviews.
<v Speaker 3>It's got a ninety one on Open Credit.
<v Speaker 1>Another game that's just like Launching with its reviews above
<v Speaker 1>a ninety. You know we have seen this a couple
<v Speaker 1>times this year, usually things kind of settle down below,
<v Speaker 1>Like just below ninety, we'll see Forts a Horizon often
<v Speaker 1>does hang on to a score right around here.
<v Speaker 3>I checked. Sean's the one who got this in Fantasy.
<v Speaker 3>I think it was his.
<v Speaker 1>First pick and he was number one, So I think
<v Speaker 1>this was the topic overall a safe one because these
<v Speaker 1>games usually deliver. Got a nine out of ten for
<v Speaker 1>Dominic Layton at the Sixth Access, who says forts a
<v Speaker 1>Horizon six is another excellent entry in an excellent series
<v Speaker 1>from an excellent developer. Part of me wants more than that,
<v Speaker 1>but I have no idea how that would work. Five
<v Speaker 1>stars from Chris Colleene at VGC. The Horizon five was
<v Speaker 1>already in an exceptional racing game, but forts Horizon six
<v Speaker 1>takes everything up a notch to deliver an even more engaging, entertaining,
<v Speaker 1>and all encompassing experience. There's an absolute wealth of racing, exploring,
<v Speaker 1>and collecting to do here, and that's before the inevitable
<v Speaker 1>live service updates start adding even more content. Few games
<v Speaker 1>are as essential as this and five stars from Jeff
<v Speaker 1>grub Over at Giant Bomb, who says, in a lot
<v Speaker 1>of ways, this is my ideal video game becoming one
<v Speaker 1>with the controller and the vehicle in a drop dead
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous setting that essentially never runs out of content. It's
<v Speaker 1>almost perfect, and I think it's fair to use that
<v Speaker 1>word for the craft that is on display in forts
<v Speaker 1>Are Horizon six. So yeah, I play like twenty five
<v Speaker 1>ish hours of this game now, jan I have been
<v Speaker 1>enjoying every minute of it. It really fits with the
<v Speaker 1>way I play the game, which is, let's just go
<v Speaker 1>in there and drive around and go from like just hey,
<v Speaker 1>recommend me a race, I'll go to that next race,
<v Speaker 1>and I'll keep doing that until I get a little
<v Speaker 1>bit distracted, and then I'll start.
<v Speaker 3>Exploring the world.
<v Speaker 1>I'll go do some barn fines, and that that sense
<v Speaker 1>of progression of just hanging out in the world is immaculate.
<v Speaker 1>The progression of like I'm unlocking wristbands, that is sort
<v Speaker 1>of just happening in the background for me.
<v Speaker 3>But I will say, like, the way.
<v Speaker 1>That I want it to work is don't get in
<v Speaker 1>my way, don't make me feel like I have to
<v Speaker 1>do anything annoying to get to the next cool thing. Instead,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, here's a bunch of cool stuff. And
<v Speaker 1>then once you unlock these wristbands. Probably what's gonna happen
<v Speaker 1>is we're gonna put a big exclamation point on it
<v Speaker 1>with the one of the showcases, which you know they've
<v Speaker 1>always had, but those are they're just as good here,
<v Speaker 1>Like racing against a giant mech is one of the
<v Speaker 1>early ones we've seen in some trailers. You know, it's Japan,
<v Speaker 1>you could expect like a bullet train stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>It's these games always have you racing against a plane
<v Speaker 1>and those like make it feel like, Okay, I've kind
<v Speaker 1>of reached the next thing. And then I see the
<v Speaker 1>map a bunch of new races have opened up in
<v Speaker 1>a new region that maybe I haven't explored as much.
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the typical, like I'm doing the racist progression.
<v Speaker 3>Then there's the.
<v Speaker 1>Progress of you know, you maybe you don't want to.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you'd like, there's an awesome world here. This is
<v Speaker 1>this is Japan, and there's Tokyo City and there's all
<v Speaker 1>this stuff to go explore and it looks really nice.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you just want to go see the sites.
<v Speaker 1>There is another progression path that's like a collection journal
<v Speaker 1>and a stamp collection, and you can sort of progress
<v Speaker 1>the progress those by just going and finding those barn finds,
<v Speaker 1>the treasure cars, finding of photo locations that are very scenic,
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So it's like, yeah, there are multiple
<v Speaker 1>ways to progress the game, but that progression is always
<v Speaker 1>more of a facade than anything else.
<v Speaker 3>And I like it that way.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the right way to treat this, because
<v Speaker 1>this should just be the game where you can go
<v Speaker 1>in there mostly turn off.
<v Speaker 3>Your brain and just drive some cars nice.
<v Speaker 1>And then to that end, it's you know, I have
<v Speaker 1>this every time I play for its the Horizon jan
<v Speaker 1>where it's like I'm playing it as Burnout Paradise or
<v Speaker 1>another sort of Arcadie racing game, and it's perfect that way,
<v Speaker 1>really is they nail that? But it's like, oh yeah, no,
<v Speaker 1>if I begin turning off these assists, if I turn
<v Speaker 1>off anti lock BK breaks and stuff like that, this
<v Speaker 1>is still a forts a simulation engine underneath all of that,
<v Speaker 1>and they've improved it here, Like the aerodynamic simulation is
<v Speaker 1>better than it's ever been. If you can really begin
<v Speaker 1>to feel that. And now it's like, oh, like the
<v Speaker 1>depth here is insane. It's you know, yeah, it's got
<v Speaker 1>the breadth of content. Then it also has depth and
<v Speaker 1>I just begin sort of like fall in love with
<v Speaker 1>a car and being like, oh, now I know how
<v Speaker 1>this car behaves in corners and.
<v Speaker 3>What I need to do, Like what do I need
<v Speaker 3>to do to make sure.
<v Speaker 1>That I'm not losing my grip as I as I
<v Speaker 1>try to like throw weight under the front tires.
<v Speaker 3>It's just.
<v Speaker 1>I play it and I just can't stop playing it. Jan, So, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they really nail these things. I think it's yeah, an
<v Speaker 1>ideal video game for someone like me.
<v Speaker 2>Hell yes, Greb there you wrote a review that as
<v Speaker 2>a now out on the website, and we also filmed
<v Speaker 2>a little roundtable discussion with Dan who's played a little
<v Speaker 2>bit before It's a Horizon, and Jeff Backlar, who had
<v Speaker 2>some cues to ask you. The only other thing I
<v Speaker 2>want to ask Grub is that I know or two things. One,
<v Speaker 2>it's great to see a triple A racing game get
<v Speaker 2>this much praise and have this much love put into it,
<v Speaker 2>because we don't get them as often as we used to.
<v Speaker 2>And I've been hankering to get behind the wheel, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>whether an actual wheel or just a controller. And you've
<v Speaker 2>mentioned several times at this game is like specifically designed
<v Speaker 2>for the Xbox controller really hammers on the rumble there.
<v Speaker 2>But the second thing, I know, the Forts a Horizon
<v Speaker 2>series a little silly, a little silly, and they will
<v Speaker 2>occasionally have those set piece races you mentioned one in
<v Speaker 2>the review, is that do you get a lot of
<v Speaker 2>that throughout Forts of Horizon six or just a little
<v Speaker 2>bits and pieces there.
<v Speaker 1>I think they dole them out at the right pace,
<v Speaker 1>which is one every few hours. There's a time when,
<v Speaker 1>like in this series where they were coming like more
<v Speaker 1>than they probably should have because they are very scripted.
<v Speaker 3>Those showcase races they.
<v Speaker 1>Are about looking cool and less about like, oh there's
<v Speaker 1>a Forts of simulation underneath all this, All that doesn't
<v Speaker 1>matter in those showcase races. The showcase races is we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure we have a catchup mechanic excuse me,
<v Speaker 1>so that like there's always something near a photo finish,
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's what you want.
<v Speaker 3>You want it to just look cool.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they have the ones against the Chaser zero,
<v Speaker 1>the giant Gundam style mech or whatever, and there's like
<v Speaker 1>five moments during a race like that where there's like
<v Speaker 1>just hey, you're gonna hit a jump and we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>hit you with slow motion and the cool mech is
<v Speaker 1>gonna be jumping over you and like just barely missing
<v Speaker 1>your car and that stuff. Again, it feels like a
<v Speaker 1>reward after you've spent time doing other progression.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>That is a trick They've done a lot. I'm glad
<v Speaker 1>they don't rely on it as much as they have
<v Speaker 1>in the past because it has been played out a
<v Speaker 1>little bit.
<v Speaker 3>So when they when they drop it here.
<v Speaker 1>And they do kind of just nail the uh the
<v Speaker 1>japaneseeness of it all for this game, it is. It's
<v Speaker 1>very well done. So yeah, I'm I'm in. I'm into
<v Speaker 1>the vibes. I'm into the obviously into the gameplay. The
<v Speaker 1>number of cars here getting K trucks doing K truck
<v Speaker 1>deliveries and stuff like that. Food deliveries. That's been fun.
<v Speaker 1>It's a very crazy taxi like. It's yeah, just across
<v Speaker 1>the board. I think they've nailed it.
<v Speaker 2>Grab the K truck representation is actually why you gave
<v Speaker 2>it a five out of five.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, of course absolutely now they I haven't been
<v Speaker 1>able to find my minivan in there jam, but we'll see.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll get that an update or something. Oh, it's
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a good game. One that's like obviously
<v Speaker 1>if you have game Pass, this is just such a
<v Speaker 1>no brainer. But like if you, yeah, man, it's it's
<v Speaker 1>a game. I just would recommend it just about anybody
<v Speaker 1>who has any affinity for driving in a video game.
<v Speaker 1>It is going to like hook you into it with
<v Speaker 1>its with its immaculate mechanics. All right, that's sports the
<v Speaker 1>Horizon six. As Jan said, there's a written review on
<v Speaker 1>the website. We have that video discussion review on the
<v Speaker 1>website and on YouTube. You could check those out. We'll
<v Speaker 1>probably be playing more of it on the website at
<v Speaker 1>some point, get it into a UPF or something. I
<v Speaker 1>just want to hang out and play that game, especially,
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done a ton of the multiplayer.
<v Speaker 3>I've done some. We'd love to do multiplayer with y'all.
<v Speaker 1>That would be a great time and honestly, but we
<v Speaker 1>could do it with the community because you get those
<v Speaker 1>big like convoys going. So maybe we'll get that going
<v Speaker 1>next week sometime everybody.
<v Speaker 2>Hell all right?
<v Speaker 1>Best Buy tells affiliates it's starting GTA six pre orders
<v Speaker 1>next week, sparking speculation that a new trailer is coming.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Chris Scullion, at VGC players have been
<v Speaker 1>speculating that a new trailer for Grand Theft Auto six
<v Speaker 1>could be coming next week. During a live stream earlier today,
<v Speaker 1>YouTuber frog Boy x one gaming shout out to. Frog
<v Speaker 1>Boy was checking who's checking his phone when he received
<v Speaker 1>an email for Best Buys affiliate program Yeah can we
<v Speaker 1>get rivetson chat please? The email informed him that a
<v Speaker 1>pre order campaign for physical copies of Grand Theft Auto
<v Speaker 1>six would take place from May eighteenth, eighteenth through the
<v Speaker 1>twenty first, with affiliates eligible to receive five percent for
<v Speaker 1>each sale day. Link to other Best Buy affiliates have
<v Speaker 1>since confirmed that they received this email to suggesting that
<v Speaker 1>best Buy is set to start taking pre orders for
<v Speaker 1>the games starting on Monday. The news has now led
<v Speaker 1>to speculation that a new trailer for Grand Theft Auto
<v Speaker 1>six may be released to coincide with pre orders starting.
<v Speaker 1>This would also coincide with Take two Interactive's upcoming Q
<v Speaker 1>four twenty twenty six earnings conference call, which is set
<v Speaker 1>to take place on May twenty first, so this would
<v Speaker 1>all be next week. Should take to decide to release
<v Speaker 1>a trailer before this call, perhaps reconfirming the games currently
<v Speaker 1>planned November nineteenth release date, It would allow the company
<v Speaker 1>to refer to it during its results presentation and its
<v Speaker 1>forecast for financial year twenty twenty seven, and would eliminate
<v Speaker 1>the need for investors to ask questions about its status
<v Speaker 1>during the Q and a portion of the presentation.
<v Speaker 3>These are all good points, because that is how it goes.
<v Speaker 1>We just saw this play out jen actually with Starfox
<v Speaker 1>Star Fox everyone was saying, when are we going to
<v Speaker 1>get that announced? When is Nintendo going to talk about that?
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people are like, Nintendo has an
<v Speaker 1>earnings call soon. If this game is really coming out
<v Speaker 1>in June, they're probably gonna announce it before that, and
<v Speaker 1>they announced it the day before that is probably how
<v Speaker 1>it's going to go down here, although of course there's
<v Speaker 1>no guarantee. We're speculating, but I think this is seems
<v Speaker 1>about right to me jan that this is the time
<v Speaker 1>that they would they would probably start talking about it.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if one of the reasons we haven't heard
<v Speaker 1>much about Call Up Duty, for example, is they're kind
<v Speaker 1>of waiting for Grand Theft Auto to do this, get
<v Speaker 1>it out of the way, and then Call of Duty
<v Speaker 1>will start talking about its stuff very quickly after that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>This sounds very plausible. How are you feeling about it?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, speaking of Call of Duty, Lexi, talking about this
<v Speaker 2>last year's entry into the Call of Duty franchise makes
<v Speaker 2>me hope that they let that one sit in the
<v Speaker 2>oven a little bit longer. Oh yeah, SGF is right
<v Speaker 2>around the corner, grub We were talking about that. The
<v Speaker 2>rest of the year's fast and quick approaching, So this
<v Speaker 2>does make sense in terms of timing. I can feel
<v Speaker 2>the clamor clamoring around us from the general gaming audience
<v Speaker 2>out there, to also people wanting this game to finally
<v Speaker 2>come out so we can stop talking about this game.
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm coming from. I'm sure there's gonna be great.
<v Speaker 2>I feel bad for the poor developers out there that
<v Speaker 2>have to work crunch hours and the developers that have
<v Speaker 2>been slighted by rock Star in the process. And I
<v Speaker 2>know that this game is going to fire off on
<v Speaker 2>all cylinders. It's gonna be huge. But we've been talking
<v Speaker 2>about it for what feels like forever, grub Ye, and
<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've gone to that point of like
<v Speaker 2>peak saturation of talking about GTA six that if and
<v Speaker 2>when a trailer comes out, it is not going to
<v Speaker 2>be enough for the expectations that people have put on
<v Speaker 2>themselves for this game. You know, rock Star has stayed
<v Speaker 2>relatively quiet to not over promise and over deliver on
<v Speaker 2>this game. But the people out there, also the chuds
<v Speaker 2>out there, are going to get really, really weird about it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be It's going to be so
<v Speaker 1>big that people will be able to sort of project
<v Speaker 1>whatever they need onto it to do whatever grift they
<v Speaker 1>have or whatever, you know, whatever excitement they have, and
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be unrelated to whatever game we finally get.
<v Speaker 1>You know, these trailers have been for Grand Theft Auto six.
<v Speaker 1>That first trailer or the most recent one, it was huge, massive,
<v Speaker 1>like one of the fastest growing or most viewed YouTube
<v Speaker 1>videos that has ever been released, and that is it's
<v Speaker 1>probably going to be true for this one as well.
<v Speaker 1>Especially as we start getting real details and we do
<v Speaker 1>get release state information, people will tune up, tune in
<v Speaker 1>for this thing. But yeah, it's I think I'm excited
<v Speaker 1>about this jam because it does make its feel like
<v Speaker 1>it's real. It'll come out, we'll be pasted it later
<v Speaker 1>this year, and then we can sort of get on
<v Speaker 1>with our lives. That definitely I'm marking this on my
<v Speaker 1>calendar as one real next step towards that reality.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we'll have to take two steps back
<v Speaker 2>for whenever the online portion of GTA six comes out
<v Speaker 2>and whatever state that releases, in which I've been very,
<v Speaker 2>very curious just talking with friends that are not as
<v Speaker 2>plugged into the industry grub, a lot of them are
<v Speaker 2>just clamoring for that style of game that they can
<v Speaker 2>just immerse themselves in four hours on end, similar to
<v Speaker 2>like a Red Dead Redemption two that they don't quite
<v Speaker 2>care for any type of GTA online, But the GTA
<v Speaker 2>online mode just makes Rockstar so much money, So I'm cure,
<v Speaker 2>says to how six.
<v Speaker 3>Will be received.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, you know, if we get the pre ordered, like
<v Speaker 1>if the pre orders do begin, if affiliates begin having
<v Speaker 1>codes to send people to Best Buy to buy the
<v Speaker 1>physical version of this game, that means we're also probably
<v Speaker 1>going to know the price. I guess last chance to
<v Speaker 1>have this conversation probably Jan it's I'm saying eighty dollars.
<v Speaker 3>What do you think It's.
<v Speaker 2>An easy eighty dollars. They're gonna also sell another edition,
<v Speaker 2>similarly to like what Forts is doing, where maybe not
<v Speaker 2>a week early, maybe a couple of days early, and
<v Speaker 2>I think they can get away with it.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I think so as well. I'm hopeful that this
<v Speaker 1>trailer just shows like.
<v Speaker 3>Some new novel stuff.
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're at a point where not many big
<v Speaker 1>studios feel like they can try new things. They kind
<v Speaker 1>of have to just like do the most expensive looking thing,
<v Speaker 1>and rock Star can do both, and that is you know,
<v Speaker 1>while their games are not always for me, I've had
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun with Grand Theft Auto games before,
<v Speaker 1>and usually it's like that means I get to you know,
<v Speaker 1>go online, get a bunch of mods, and just explore
<v Speaker 1>this sandbox. I hope the sandbox is more robust than
<v Speaker 1>ever before. That would be the thing I would be
<v Speaker 1>most curious about, and that that would mean, like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>characters that look and feel alive and are living living
<v Speaker 1>their lives. And you know, that early trailer really made
<v Speaker 1>it seem like that was a possibility.
<v Speaker 3>We'll see how they deliver.
<v Speaker 1>At the very least, there's going to be some big,
<v Speaker 1>massive story that a lot of people will play through.
<v Speaker 2>On top of that, grub, I think the open world,
<v Speaker 2>sandbox y ness of it is going to lend itself
<v Speaker 2>well to social media games like Tomadashi Life, Pacopeia, even
<v Speaker 2>Crimson Desert. You have been popping off in the different
<v Speaker 2>things that can happen in the world, and with GTA
<v Speaker 2>six probably being a gigantic fleshed out Florida or wherever
<v Speaker 2>else it's going to be in, I think it's going
<v Speaker 2>to drive people to pick it up because of like
<v Speaker 2>the social sharing aspect of it as well.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, you know what. One last question, what are the chants?
<v Speaker 1>Give me a percentage number that when they announced this
<v Speaker 1>that suddenly there is a switch to version of Grand
<v Speaker 1>Theft Auto.
<v Speaker 2>Six, Oh, grub, that's hard. I yeah, I don't think
<v Speaker 2>it's high. I don't think it's high. I don't think
<v Speaker 2>it's high. Has there I forget, Has there been any
<v Speaker 2>cloud versions of games on the switch to?
<v Speaker 1>There haven't been. But you got to remember, this thing
<v Speaker 1>is going to be on PS four and oh wait wait, no,
<v Speaker 1>is it is no? I'm sorry?
<v Speaker 3>Is it not? No?
<v Speaker 1>It's it's gonna be on the base PS five and
<v Speaker 1>the Base Xbox Series S. That's the one I'm trying
<v Speaker 1>to think of. It's gonna be on the Series S.
<v Speaker 1>So if it could be on the series s it
<v Speaker 1>should be able to run on the switch To with
<v Speaker 1>some modifications.
<v Speaker 2>Folks are saying what I'm thinking probably would not be
<v Speaker 2>at launch if it is an OPAL.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of thing where it's like that.
<v Speaker 1>To me, there is a two percent chance, a one
<v Speaker 1>out of fifty chance that they announce something and maybe
<v Speaker 1>it's coming months later. Much more likely that this is
<v Speaker 1>something that they tackle a year later or two years later.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, because this game either way is going
<v Speaker 2>to have legs that they can eventually circle back to
<v Speaker 2>when they eventually drop it on PC when they think
<v Speaker 2>about it on switch To. I also see a a
<v Speaker 2>higher percentage grub too for Rockstar to try and make
<v Speaker 2>a mobile version of this game.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the phones are definitely powerful enough, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the more powerful phones obviously, but yes, the phones could
<v Speaker 1>run this. It's just you know, selling I mean for
<v Speaker 1>online definitely the core game of like selling those at
<v Speaker 1>seventy eighty dollars. People don't buy games that are that
<v Speaker 1>expensive on phones. So we'll see, Uh, okay, Fortnite zero actually,
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<v Speaker 1>Fortnite Zero Build is getting a much needed overhaul this week.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Phil Owen at GameSpot Epics, giving the
<v Speaker 1>Zero Build version of Fortnite Battle Royale a massive makeover
<v Speaker 1>on May fourteenth, with the late last major update in
<v Speaker 1>Chapter seven Season two.
<v Speaker 3>Among Epics, many new editions.
<v Speaker 1>Are a new utility slot exclusive to zero Build, glider
<v Speaker 1>redeploy at any time when jumping off tall objects, and
<v Speaker 1>unlimited sprint when you when your pickax is out and
<v Speaker 1>you'll no longer die from fall damage. These are some
<v Speaker 1>pretty fundamental changes that are likely to significantly alter.
<v Speaker 3>The flow with Battle and Zero Build.
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time since it was introduced in
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two that Zero Build is getting its own
<v Speaker 1>overhaul completely separate from Build Mode. Okay, Jane, I guess
<v Speaker 1>my question from all that is is can Fortnite get
<v Speaker 1>its juice back, get its mojo back? And I you know,
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's still a lot of people playing the game,
<v Speaker 1>and when they have big events, people do go back
<v Speaker 1>to it. But I get the sense that these days,
<v Speaker 1>when I start talking about a Fortnite's story, the eyes
<v Speaker 1>of many people in this audience glaze over. People tune out.
<v Speaker 1>They're just like I played Fortnite, I'm done, I've moved on.
<v Speaker 1>So is Epic ever going to move on? I'm probably not.
<v Speaker 1>They probably aren't a situation where they can't, so to
<v Speaker 1>updates like this move the needle, what do you think.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it in? It's entertaining to hear all of
<v Speaker 2>these different changes and how it adds to the mobility
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll ultimately affect the gameplay. But it isn't
<v Speaker 2>enough to incentivize me to go back and get back
<v Speaker 2>into Fortnite. At this point. I feel like the last
<v Speaker 2>major thing at least in our spaces that made Fortnite
<v Speaker 2>kind of like revitalized it or put it back into
<v Speaker 2>like the mind's eye if you will, was the Simpsons
<v Speaker 2>pack of stuff with having Springfield and everything, and I
<v Speaker 2>just can't. I can't immediately think of what would make
<v Speaker 2>give it another boom. I actually can, but I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to put that evil out into the world. Can tie,
<v Speaker 2>of course, the anti virus, but there's I can't think
<v Speaker 2>of a major franchise that would incentivize like a lot
<v Speaker 2>of the I guess millennial to older millennial audiences to
<v Speaker 2>go back to it. I feel like it has its
<v Speaker 2>built an audience because that has just become their de
<v Speaker 2>facto game. But I don't know what Fortnite can do
<v Speaker 2>to get and driven new audiences that haven't already like
<v Speaker 2>dove into it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I uh, you know it.
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, if they haven't dove in at this point, it
<v Speaker 1>seems unlikely that they will now.
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, there's a lot of young people.
<v Speaker 1>Coming online every day and this is a game that
<v Speaker 1>could could certainly be there for them. But a lot
<v Speaker 1>of those kids have already started playing Roadblocks, and Fortnite
<v Speaker 1>tries to meet them by being its own version of Roadblocks,
<v Speaker 1>and that just doesn't seem to work. And for as
<v Speaker 1>much as that can be a strategy, obviously epic once
<v Speaker 1>older audiences that have more discretionary spending, and it just
<v Speaker 1>feels like they have played this game out, they have
<v Speaker 1>had their time with it, and the the ability to
<v Speaker 1>sort of be surprised by it and have that sense
<v Speaker 1>of novelty that hey, I'm getting something new here is
<v Speaker 1>becoming more and more challenging and more and more challenging,
<v Speaker 1>I should say. And then for the you know this
<v Speaker 1>zero build mode, which is definitely the thing that I
<v Speaker 1>would be playing if I was playing Fortnite, it's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean some modifications here or there. I mean that
<v Speaker 1>these sound like improvements to me for sure, but it's
<v Speaker 1>not that it's not the headline that is.
<v Speaker 3>Going to grab me and bring me back.
<v Speaker 1>And really, even if you like I like obviously like
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars, do you do Star Wars stuff all the time,
<v Speaker 1>and that's not bringing me back. And you know, the
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons was great. There's only so many Simpsons in the
<v Speaker 1>world that you can pull that lever on. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think Fortnite just continues to be in a weird
<v Speaker 1>space and it's you know, it's and it's not that weird,
<v Speaker 1>right that this is just what time does. The shit
<v Speaker 1>like this is normal, but it's a little abnormal because
<v Speaker 1>this game is supposed to be forever. It feels that way,
<v Speaker 1>at least to me at this point.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like Greb, I don't know if you saw, but
<v Speaker 2>they added Overwatch skins to Fortnite, that's right. Yeah, And
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even see that make a massive impact at all,
<v Speaker 2>like across the various timelines. So I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>else can do other than trying to tap into an
<v Speaker 2>existing big audience. But like you mentioned, you and I
<v Speaker 2>are big Star Wars fans didn't feel compelled, if at all,
<v Speaker 2>to go back to explore any of those we reported on.
<v Speaker 2>That extraction shooter mode featuring Disney characters, I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if that's going to be enough to drive people back way,
<v Speaker 2>especially because extraction shooters are just such a niche genre
<v Speaker 2>in themselves that like getting people to get out of
<v Speaker 2>either the zero build mode or the standard mode is
<v Speaker 2>challenging enough. We saw that with where like the UGC
<v Speaker 2>stuff that they were really pushing hard didn't take off
<v Speaker 2>as much as Epic wanted it to be or wanted
<v Speaker 2>it to.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll continue to kind of like track games like
<v Speaker 1>this as they try to like Navigate their the Late Life.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mentioned or Blocks. That is a
<v Speaker 1>game that came out in two thousand and six and
<v Speaker 1>sort of found and it's forever Niche that's twenty years old,
<v Speaker 1>and I think Epic absolutely wants Fortnite to be able
<v Speaker 1>to get to a point where one day it's twenty
<v Speaker 1>years old and there's more people playing than ever before.
<v Speaker 1>That seems like a difficult transition because the kinds of
<v Speaker 1>people it mostly attracted are people who are used to
<v Speaker 1>playing games for maybe a couple of years, then they
<v Speaker 1>do move on to the next one. And Fortnite has
<v Speaker 1>been able to sort of transform itself into the next
<v Speaker 1>one a couple of times. But I think it has
<v Speaker 1>found itself at a fork in the road where that
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the Disney stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, is that going to bring people back?
<v Speaker 1>No, that's done out of obligation to Disney for the
<v Speaker 1>big payday they're getting from Disney, and that serves a
<v Speaker 1>completely different purpose than exciting the audience that you want,
<v Speaker 1>that your core audience at least. I mean, you're gonna
<v Speaker 1>be able to bring people in with the Disney stuff,
<v Speaker 1>for sure, but that is not what we're talking about here, epic.
<v Speaker 2>I know you're listening. Get your check books ready, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right, address it to Janachoa, and I promise I'll
<v Speaker 2>share the money with the gang and everything. Just release
<v Speaker 2>the sitcom season. Just do the sitcom season.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I am.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where and they need to like fully
<v Speaker 1>embrace millennial bullshit. They need to like fully just be
<v Speaker 1>like that's what this game is at this point. It's
<v Speaker 1>kind of cringe. It's just it's the kind of stuff
<v Speaker 1>that these like Austin Powers, like the Michael Myers season
<v Speaker 1>of just like Mike Myers, not Michael Myers, Mike Myers,
<v Speaker 1>just like all of his characters, all the Adam Sandler
<v Speaker 1>characters in the season. Like, that's the kind of stuff
<v Speaker 1>that I think actually would move the needle loo.
<v Speaker 3>Rub And it's dumb and embarrassing a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>We've joked around about like releasing the Seinfeld characters, the
<v Speaker 2>Friend's characters, hell, throw in the Sex and the City ladies.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But the part I want to posit to everyone that
<v Speaker 2>I think would at least get a chuckle out of
<v Speaker 2>everyone is if Fortnite adds a laugh track.
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit, Jan, Yes, Like I mean look, that would
<v Speaker 3>be a.
<v Speaker 1>Good use of AI, right, just like use a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of context like that, A I could sort of
<v Speaker 1>glom onto to be like now is the time to
<v Speaker 1>hit the and when it's bad it would be even better.
<v Speaker 1>Just like mistimed laughter would actually rule.
<v Speaker 2>I like love that if you were playing in duos
<v Speaker 2>or like a squad and then your squad member dies
<v Speaker 2>and then you just hear the crowd oh would just
<v Speaker 2>go so hard.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like two characters that like like Ross and
<v Speaker 1>Rachel meet and the audience go whoo, like say it
<v Speaker 1>by the bell and shit, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Oh grab I smell I smell the check coming.
<v Speaker 3>Cut the check.
<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, Sweeny, give us your money. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's keep going here. With its latest update, Nintendo has
<v Speaker 1>already added most of Virtual Boy's game library to Switch Online.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. Nintendo has added
<v Speaker 1>five new Virtual Boy games to its Nintendo Switch Online
<v Speaker 1>Plus Expansion Pack subscription service. From today, users with physical
<v Speaker 1>Virtual Boy access with the Virtual Boy accessory will be
<v Speaker 1>able to play v Tetris, Jack Bros. Space Invader's Virtual Collection,
<v Speaker 1>Virtual Bowling, and Vertical Force Jen. If you were to
<v Speaker 1>go out and try to buy those games today. That's
<v Speaker 1>like fourteen hundred dollars with the games right there. In Japan,
<v Speaker 1>a six game Virtual Fishing is also available from today.
<v Speaker 1>Today's new releases mean that in the West, twelve games
<v Speaker 1>are now available on the Virtual Boy NSO service, adding
<v Speaker 1>to the launch games that debuted in February. Nintendo previously
<v Speaker 1>confirmed a total of sixteen Virtual Boy games planned for
<v Speaker 1>release on NSO, including Mario Clash and Mario's Tennis. Users
<v Speaker 1>are also still waiting for the promised previously unreleased Zero
<v Speaker 1>Racer and d Hopper. Given that only twenty two games
<v Speaker 1>were released for the Virtual Boy console over the course
<v Speaker 1>of its brief life in the nineteen nineties, players.
<v Speaker 3>Will have the vast majority of the VB library.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, jam, just by percentages, this is already the most
<v Speaker 1>complete library on NSO, which is really stupid. Uh, but
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I mean, we knew these were coming.
<v Speaker 1>They did tell us they were gonna have sixteen games
<v Speaker 1>in this library.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's almost all of them.
<v Speaker 1>Except for like water World and maybe a couple others. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's I am. I still get excited about this. I
<v Speaker 1>have the Virtual Boy accessory sitting out over there like
<v Speaker 1>everyone else. It does give me a headache, and I
<v Speaker 1>don't care. I don't care.
<v Speaker 3>So cool. I'm glad they're doing this.
<v Speaker 1>It is, you know, their dumbest system, and they're given
<v Speaker 1>it the most like complete preservation treatment.
<v Speaker 3>It's a little silly, jan yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I if they're going to go through the links to
<v Speaker 2>release a peripheral to emulate or emulate the experience of
<v Speaker 2>the Virtual Boy, I would hope that they put as
<v Speaker 2>much of that library, if not at the library and
<v Speaker 2>its entirety, out on Nintendo Switch Online for preservation purposes,
<v Speaker 2>also just to let everyone know how odd that's that
<v Speaker 2>platform was. Many games came out in total for like
<v Speaker 2>the Virtual Boy. Oh okay, you're almost there, Nintendo almost there.
<v Speaker 1>So the only Virtual Blood games that haven't been confirmed
<v Speaker 1>is coming to the service are Nestor's Funky Bowling, which
<v Speaker 1>I think should eventually happen because that is a fully
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo game based on the Nester character from Nintendo Power
<v Speaker 1>Right Chat, Panic Bomber, excuse me, st Gundam, Dimension War,
<v Speaker 1>Space Squash, Virtual Fighting, and that's not Virtua Fighter, that's
<v Speaker 1>Virtual Fighting, Virtual Lab, Virtual League Baseball, and Kevin Costner's
<v Speaker 1>Wonder water World, which you know that may be the
<v Speaker 1>most important virtual play game.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course that they should save that one for last.
<v Speaker 1>You can blight me with a virtual blay game word. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want to do, absolutely I would
<v Speaker 1>do that. Let's make it a water world, why not.
<v Speaker 1>As a reminder, this is part of Nintendo Switch Onlines
<v Speaker 1>Expansion Pass. So it's the fifty dollars a year option
<v Speaker 1>I believe. And then you do need the physical adapter
<v Speaker 1>to play these, and that is either the one hundred
<v Speaker 1>dollars virtual Boy shell that looks like a virtual boy
<v Speaker 1>and behaves like a virtual boy, or there is a
<v Speaker 1>cheaper cardboard alternative that is twenty five dollars. Yeah, Nintendo,
<v Speaker 1>all right. Xbox PC app references game Pass expansion into
<v Speaker 1>China and possible disc to Digital Future initiative.
<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about it.
<v Speaker 1>The Verge reports that that references in the Xbox PC
<v Speaker 1>app point to Project Soluki, described as China market expansion
<v Speaker 1>for game Pass. It might feature rewards and subscription tiers.
<v Speaker 1>This same update also has this thing called Positron, which
<v Speaker 1>has far fewer details but seems to be some sort
<v Speaker 1>of convert your disc to a digital ownership key instead,
<v Speaker 1>which is reminiscent of the old Xbox One controversy that
<v Speaker 1>happened on early and it's time where it's like, hey, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all your games are basically digital, even if they're disc
<v Speaker 1>even if they're discs, and you're basically just gonna activate
<v Speaker 1>on your system and then the disc is worthless. Now,
<v Speaker 1>there's no indication that that is necessarily what's happening here.
<v Speaker 3>We don't know what's happening.
<v Speaker 1>It probably does have something to do with the next
<v Speaker 1>generation Xbox Project Helix, and how it will exactly work
<v Speaker 1>is up in the air. But let's say it did
<v Speaker 1>work exactly like it was going to work on Xbox One.
<v Speaker 3>Things have changed, right jan.
<v Speaker 1>Like people would probably be like, shit, I mean, I
<v Speaker 1>don't like this still, but now it feels like the
<v Speaker 1>tides have turned enough or would people still be able
<v Speaker 1>to create enough of an uproar that Microsoft would have
<v Speaker 1>to rethink it yet again?
<v Speaker 2>I would hope that, I mean, with all the changes
<v Speaker 2>and things getting shaken up at Microsoft and Xbox, I
<v Speaker 2>would hope that they're listening at least a little bit.
<v Speaker 2>But given the news cycle with Xbox Grub, it's very
<v Speaker 2>hard to predict what if they are listening or who
<v Speaker 2>are they listening to. So I'd be interested to see
<v Speaker 2>if there's enough uproar, if anything actually does even get
<v Speaker 2>mentioned over there.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I.
<v Speaker 1>Think that this is like something that they would always
<v Speaker 1>be like looking to have like worked on. There's no
<v Speaker 1>guarantee that this stuff actually is enacted in any one way,
<v Speaker 1>and like the engineering team figuring this stuff out is
<v Speaker 1>going to be very different than the public relations team
<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to actually present it to the public.
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, going into China, there is so
<v Speaker 1>many considerations there. China is a regulatory nightmare for Chinese companies,
<v Speaker 1>let alone foreign companies, which is basically it's basically a
<v Speaker 1>non starter. So this would be like a curated version
<v Speaker 1>of game Pass, is what it sounds like.
<v Speaker 2>Jan, Oh, what do you think I mean? We speaking
<v Speaker 2>on that, Greb. We saw how Slay the Spire Too
<v Speaker 2>got review bomb to hell on Steam just because that
<v Speaker 2>was one of the only means of communication from Chinese audiences.
<v Speaker 2>So this is definitely going to have to be a
<v Speaker 2>carefully curated library of game Pass that is going to
<v Speaker 2>be very different than what is available everywhere else, and
<v Speaker 2>it is not not just with video games, it's also
<v Speaker 2>other forms of entertainment that have to go through an
<v Speaker 2>incredibly strenuous regulatory process. That being said, I still feel
<v Speaker 2>like if Microsoft can get this up and running, the
<v Speaker 2>Chinese audience is massive, and if they can get this
<v Speaker 2>to take off, it will take off.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean it does feel like, hey, this was
<v Speaker 3>always in the works.
<v Speaker 1>Xbox One got released in China a few years back
<v Speaker 1>after the console ban was sort of lifted, but every
<v Speaker 1>game still has to be.
<v Speaker 3>Approved one by one by the government.
<v Speaker 1>It's not like the ESRME rating system where it's like
<v Speaker 1>it's a self regulatory thing. You can put your game out,
<v Speaker 1>you can put your game out without a rating, but
<v Speaker 1>some stores just won't handle it.
<v Speaker 3>No, no, you just can't be out in China unless.
<v Speaker 1>You have a approval from the government. Now, of course
<v Speaker 1>there's the gray market and Steam. People just download Steam
<v Speaker 1>and find ways to make that work, and that it
<v Speaker 1>exists in it's like weird limbo. But technically you're supposed
<v Speaker 1>to get approval from the government and Microsoft would have
<v Speaker 1>to do that, so this would have to be this
<v Speaker 1>curated version of game Pass.
<v Speaker 3>And then it sounds like the real answer.
<v Speaker 1>Here for Xbox and Microsoft is so like, yeah, we're
<v Speaker 1>gonna have the library of games. That's what people think
<v Speaker 1>of as game pass. But maybe it's time we shift
<v Speaker 1>this what game pass can be, and in China at
<v Speaker 1>the very least, or starting in China at the very least,
<v Speaker 1>we can begin offering up other sorts of things that
<v Speaker 1>feel like the main attraction because China has a different
<v Speaker 1>sort of relationship to video games, and that could be
<v Speaker 1>a premium currencies for a lot of free to play games,
<v Speaker 1>because the Chinese audiences just do not have the same
<v Speaker 1>sort of immediate skepticism for for free to play games
<v Speaker 1>that that a lot of the rest of the world does.
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>They just think that's very that's very normal in that
<v Speaker 1>country and has been basically from the beginning. And then
<v Speaker 1>there's there's you know, an obvious tie here where it's
<v Speaker 1>like Microsoft is Blizzard, and Blizzard is huge in China.
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like it's huge everywhere, and so it's
<v Speaker 1>like maybe they can offer up special goodies in Blizzard
<v Speaker 1>games and that could be the reason to get game
<v Speaker 1>Pass in China.
<v Speaker 3>It sounds like they're trying to set up game Pass.
<v Speaker 1>To be different depending on where it's launching where it's
<v Speaker 1>coming out, and like you know, obviously to deal with
<v Speaker 1>the regular, regular regulation, but also like making games is hard,
<v Speaker 1>making sure that you always have new games and game
<v Speaker 1>pass is always going to be a challenge.
<v Speaker 3>What if that was emphasized less? What do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Greb, I feel the Chinese audience in greater industry
<v Speaker 2>and how the industry is deployed over there is such
<v Speaker 2>a black box to me, just because of the heavy
<v Speaker 2>regulatory procedures. But it's interesting Chat points out weird here
<v Speaker 2>or Wired. In China, they get special unique version version
<v Speaker 2>of Wow with a lot of cool specific stuff. It's
<v Speaker 2>kind of neat is how they finish that off, So
<v Speaker 2>I could easily see them spinning that off also into Wow.
<v Speaker 2>If maybe this is how you a slightly cheaper way
<v Speaker 2>of how you are able to play World of Warcraft
<v Speaker 2>over in China, And like you mentioned, maybe there's different
<v Speaker 2>special currency because that audience is conditioned in a different
<v Speaker 2>way than how other audiences are. I'm interested to see it. Also,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this opens up smaller titles to
<v Speaker 2>make its way over to China and for them to
<v Speaker 2>gain success over there as well. I'm into that if
<v Speaker 2>they can get through whatever regulatory process they have to.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, it's you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, China is a nut that all these companies have
<v Speaker 1>wanted to crack for a very long time, and there
<v Speaker 1>is no one obvious way to do it. And for
<v Speaker 1>a long time, the conventional wisdom has just been it
<v Speaker 1>is so challenging, it's not worth doing. Just partner with
<v Speaker 1>someone domestically and let them, let them take their massive cut,
<v Speaker 1>which is how it has worked.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons it's been, you know, the Chinese
<v Speaker 1>market is so frustrating to so many developers is you've
<v Speaker 1>got to give your thirty percent cut to the platforms.
<v Speaker 1>Then you got to give your thirty percent cut to
<v Speaker 1>the publishers on top of that, and then sometimes there's
<v Speaker 1>like these platforms inside of platforms and they get another
<v Speaker 1>cut and it leaves very little for the developer. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft is large enough that they can navigate that a
<v Speaker 1>little bit better. They have had a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>a rocky relationship with net Ease, which is their Blizzard
<v Speaker 1>partner in China, you know, but that seems be mostly
<v Speaker 1>back on and I bet netdies would be like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>if you want to try to figure out game Pass
<v Speaker 1>and give people more reasons to play the game through
<v Speaker 1>us by getting bonuses through game Pass. We can figure
<v Speaker 1>that out, although it's a possibility that Microsoft begins doing
<v Speaker 1>that with the idea of one day they're the ones
<v Speaker 1>publishing World of Warcraft and whatever whatever else in China.
<v Speaker 1>But that's going to take years and years to get
<v Speaker 1>to that point, and it has to sort of start small,
<v Speaker 1>and that seems to be what this would be about.
<v Speaker 3>All right.
<v Speaker 1>Amazon's still eyeing a Lord of the Rings game after
<v Speaker 1>reported MMO can cancelization, cancelization, cancelation Jesus. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Eddie McCoo at GameSpot. Amazon Games has confirmed it has
<v Speaker 1>not given up its efforts to make a new The
<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Rings game after multiple MMO projects in
<v Speaker 1>Middle Earth did not work out. Amazon Games boss Jeff
<v Speaker 1>Gradis told Eurogamer, our creative team continues to explore a
<v Speaker 1>compelling new game experience that does justice to Tolkien's world.
<v Speaker 1>We are working closely with middle Earth and remain excited
<v Speaker 1>about the ip. Middle Earth is the name of the
<v Speaker 1>company that now owns and operates this right, They're not
<v Speaker 1>where they say we're working with middle Earth. I don't
<v Speaker 1>think that means we're working with the denizens of the
<v Speaker 1>fantasy world. Amazon's latest attempt to make a Lord of
<v Speaker 1>the Rings MMO failed to materialize in anything, as it
<v Speaker 1>was reported in October twenty twenty five that the game
<v Speaker 1>had been canceled amid wider layoffs. A source told Eurogamer
<v Speaker 1>that this project, which was in the works alongside rights
<v Speaker 1>owner Embracer Group, important to remember that entered pre production
<v Speaker 1>only months before the layoffs were announced in twenty twenty five.
<v Speaker 1>The MMO project with Embracer was announced before talking to
<v Speaker 1>any developers, a source said, adding that the game had
<v Speaker 1>only one or two people working on it as a
<v Speaker 1>side project for many years. According to the source, only
<v Speaker 1>a single piece of concept art was created to the project.
<v Speaker 1>For the project, however, when Amazon said it was winding
<v Speaker 1>down its other MMO New World, the company reportedly planned
<v Speaker 1>to reassign staffers to the Lord of the Rings MMO,
<v Speaker 1>but that effort did not work out. This was Amazon's
<v Speaker 1>second attempt at a Lord of the Rings MMO, as
<v Speaker 1>the company previously partnered with Leeu for an MMO based
<v Speaker 1>on the popular series, but that was canceled back in
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. Amazon and MMOs. They love this stuff.
<v Speaker 1>They keep going back to it. They still see it
<v Speaker 1>as the future for me. Jan it's this story is
<v Speaker 1>the story of the last few years, which is a
<v Speaker 1>prestige IP.
<v Speaker 3>It's just not a strategy.
<v Speaker 1>You just can't be like we, hey, I have an idea,
<v Speaker 1>let's go get an.
<v Speaker 3>IP and so well, oh okay.
<v Speaker 1>Every company's tried that in the last several years, and
<v Speaker 1>there was a period there where that was the strategy
<v Speaker 1>for companies like EA with Star Wars and a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of other stuff, and it just obviously was a half
<v Speaker 1>big thought that did not that or what it did
<v Speaker 1>was it led them back to where they were right
<v Speaker 1>before that, which was we need to own our own
<v Speaker 1>IP and go back in that direction. It's like, so, Amazon,
<v Speaker 1>what else do you have going on here? What other
<v Speaker 1>thoughts do you have beyond Lord of the Rings is
<v Speaker 1>a recognizable IP.
<v Speaker 2>I also don't know grab Lord of the Rings online
<v Speaker 2>is still a thing, correct?
<v Speaker 1>I think Lotro is still a thing. Yeah, I never
<v Speaker 1>I never played it. I don't know much about it, but.
<v Speaker 2>Grub I feel like there has been a strong appetite
<v Speaker 2>online for a Lord of the Rings single player game
<v Speaker 2>because I shadow of Mortor is a thing no one
<v Speaker 2>has been able to shut up about the Nemesis system.
<v Speaker 2>And if I'm correct in my thinking, WB still owns
<v Speaker 2>the rights to the Nemesis system.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they have the patent.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the patent. So you couldn't have that in a
<v Speaker 2>New Shadow of Mortar. But I don't think that should
<v Speaker 2>stop you from having another one of those Jimmy jams
<v Speaker 2>that I don't think we need another MMO, And Gub,
<v Speaker 2>You're right before where it felt like the solution was
<v Speaker 2>let's go acquire an IP and work backwards from there.
<v Speaker 2>Obviously that is not panned out well for them. But
<v Speaker 2>also I feel like the problem, Grub is this starting
<v Speaker 2>and stopping and starting and stopping. What was Amazon's last
<v Speaker 2>MMO that I was it? New World?
<v Speaker 3>Did they have have they had one since New World?
<v Speaker 2>It might have been remember I don't remember New World. Sure,
<v Speaker 2>but I thought that did fairly well and then they.
<v Speaker 3>And then they shut it down right exactly? Yes, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>I don't get it.
<v Speaker 2>If I was like in the Lord of the Rings
<v Speaker 2>fandom and was excited about an upcoming MMO, I'd be
<v Speaker 2>a little bit hesitant because you could throw in a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of time, a bunch of hours, a lot of
<v Speaker 2>money into playing this game, only for it to get
<v Speaker 2>shut down a year maybe two years later.
<v Speaker 3>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>I uh yeah, I guess I'm just a little shocked
<v Speaker 1>that amaz On Plant is still more MMOs.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>After New World, I would have been like, Okay, that
<v Speaker 1>one seemed like it could have it couldn't have gone better.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they still had to close it down.
<v Speaker 1>And now you're gonna I mean, they have seemed to
<v Speaker 1>have like a really strong bond with Embracer and their
<v Speaker 1>ability to like maybe get a decent deal on using
<v Speaker 1>the on the Lord of the Rings ip. Maybe that's there,
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it just feels like a little bit lost.
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious because it seems like the James Bond ip
<v Speaker 2>is working well with IOI, so I wonder where the
<v Speaker 2>disconnect is happening with some of the other IP that
<v Speaker 2>Amazon owns. Because it's not just Lord of the Rings
<v Speaker 2>James Bond I believe it's also tomb Rater. Yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's right, and there may be like one other thing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that also sounds right.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's uh, let's get through the rest of
<v Speaker 1>these stories. There's some other stuff drop and we'll see
<v Speaker 1>if we can get to that. BioShock creator says switch
<v Speaker 1>To proves graphics have reached diminishing returns. This from Liam
<v Speaker 1>Dulan at Nintendo Life. Ken Levine talked to IGN said
<v Speaker 1>realism doesn't age as well as more stylistic things. BioShock
<v Speaker 1>still looks good, I think because it wasn't trying to
<v Speaker 1>get every nut and bolt super realistically rendered. It was
<v Speaker 1>more stylized. Look at say the switch To and even
<v Speaker 1>the new Steam machine coming out. Those are not massive
<v Speaker 1>technological upgrades. Obviously that wasn't their strategy. I think people
<v Speaker 1>are realizing that we've sort of hit a diminishing returns
<v Speaker 1>with that.
<v Speaker 3>And look, I mean he's not wrong. I just feel
<v Speaker 3>I would be.
<v Speaker 1>Like, it's kind of been that way for a long time.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's been that way plainly and obviously since
<v Speaker 1>for the last decade.
<v Speaker 3>I always point to Doom twenty sixteen.
<v Speaker 1>That's my hallmark of games don't need to look better
<v Speaker 1>than that, And games haven't really looked better than that
<v Speaker 1>since Doom twenty sixteen. And then it has performance as well,
<v Speaker 1>like great performance and all that stuff. But I mean,
<v Speaker 1>going back to the Wei, this has been Nintendo's strategy
<v Speaker 1>of we can roll lie on stylistic visuals over realistic visuals,
<v Speaker 1>and that will save us a lot of headaches and
<v Speaker 1>time and money and people won't care as much. And
<v Speaker 1>now it's like, yeah, Nintendo was way ahead of the
<v Speaker 1>curve there, but in the grand scheme of time, they
<v Speaker 1>weren't that ahead of the curve, and they were just
<v Speaker 1>like they spotted the problem and they had a solution
<v Speaker 1>and to kind of come in here and be like, eh,
<v Speaker 1>but I guess I would say to this, it's like,
<v Speaker 1>you still don't hear many developers talking this way. And
<v Speaker 1>I think it's maybe a good sign because I think
<v Speaker 1>jan I would be very happy if it became common
<v Speaker 1>wisdom that you should just be making your game to
<v Speaker 1>run well on the switch to period. I just, you know,
<v Speaker 1>at least visually. I get that the CPU could be
<v Speaker 1>an issue. If you're trying to do a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>simulation stuff, that's fine, but we're talking about visual fidelity.
<v Speaker 1>If your game visually can like look good and perform
<v Speaker 1>well on the switch to, I think you're going to
<v Speaker 1>be in a better position to succeed than if you
<v Speaker 1>try to take advantage.
<v Speaker 3>Of the PlayStation five Pro, for example.
<v Speaker 2>I am one hundred percent with you, grab B. I
<v Speaker 2>also feel like you're going to reach out to more
<v Speaker 2>audiences that way in the long run, versus trying to
<v Speaker 2>have whatever hyper realism graphical fidelity on the PS five Pro,
<v Speaker 2>and especially as that freaking console climbs up in price
<v Speaker 2>as the days go by. Yeah, I just become more
<v Speaker 2>slightly disinterested with it. But speaking about games at aging
<v Speaker 2>or age, well, look at Astrobot, look at Ratchet and
<v Speaker 2>Clank from this generation. I believe those games are going
<v Speaker 2>to continue to look good years afterwards. It isn't new
<v Speaker 2>things that Ken Levid is positing, but I'm I guess
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to see that someone at a high position
<v Speaker 2>like him is thinking about this as well. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he's right. BioShock one two parts of Infinite that I've
<v Speaker 2>seen still haven't played. It still look great by today's standards.
<v Speaker 1>Agree from Software in Katakawa, from Software's parent company say
<v Speaker 1>the Dusk Bloods is still set to release in twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, and also from Soft is going to do
<v Speaker 1>more self publishing publishing internationally. That'll save them money, it'll
<v Speaker 1>get them a bigger cut of the Pie give them
<v Speaker 1>more control over marketing and all this stuff. Sounds like
<v Speaker 1>that's one of their plans to grow from software even more.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, more importantly, maybe is the dust Bloods still
<v Speaker 1>scheduled for this year? They said that in plain language
<v Speaker 1>that dust Bloods is twenty twenty six. They also said
<v Speaker 1>elden Ring Tarnished edition for switch To is also twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, but that one feels pretty likely at this
<v Speaker 1>point and maybe even very soon. So yeah, dust Bloods,
<v Speaker 1>you still buying this one for twenty twenty six?
<v Speaker 2>Jan I think so, Grub. I think so, especially since
<v Speaker 2>we are in a post Night Rain world with from
<v Speaker 2>Soft and we've seen the success of that. I can
<v Speaker 2>I feel that from can can nail it with the
<v Speaker 2>dust Bloods. I checked out the tarnised edition and that
<v Speaker 2>played completely fine compared to reports of it running very
<v Speaker 2>poorly from a couple months ago. So I'm hopeful that
<v Speaker 2>this is still coming out in twenty twenty six. The
<v Speaker 2>thing that I'm most intrigued by is From getting into
<v Speaker 2>May getting into self publishing on their own accord.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yeah, I think that. I mean it's the right move.
<v Speaker 1>I mean they seem to run a foul of their partners,
<v Speaker 1>you know, not running, but they seem to get annoyed
<v Speaker 1>by their partners, whether it's Activision or Sony or anyone else,
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of leaves a bitter taste in everyone's mouth.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know what, just handle this stuff yourself
<v Speaker 1>and put these games out everywhere. You've had enough success
<v Speaker 1>now at this point to earn that and probably to
<v Speaker 1>afford it and build up those skills, and then you
<v Speaker 1>could sort of insulate yourself from the things that just
<v Speaker 1>seem to annoy the people over from Soft.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, and then all right, chat, I got a game
<v Speaker 3>for chat.
<v Speaker 1>I want you guys to list the games that you
<v Speaker 1>think Capcom's says are it's a leading brands. There's a
<v Speaker 1>list here. Let's see if you guys can get it.
<v Speaker 1>There are let's see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
<v Speaker 1>which ones? Okay, they they do not have street Fighter
<v Speaker 1>listed here, it's not comprehensive.
<v Speaker 3>Let's see Resident Evil.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, actually, you know what, so let's see Recival and
<v Speaker 1>Street Fighter aren't listed here, so obviously those are even
<v Speaker 1>above this.
<v Speaker 3>So think like one tier down from that. Mega Man
<v Speaker 3>is there.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Mega Man A Monster Hunter is also up there
<v Speaker 1>with the Street Fighter and stuff. Okay, so let's see
<v Speaker 1>Breath of Fire is not there, Beautiful Joe, Devil May
<v Speaker 1>Cry is there? Yes, Ace Attorney is there, Dragon's Dogma
<v Speaker 1>is there. I don't think I'm seeing a couple of
<v Speaker 1>these though. There's a couple on here still that people
<v Speaker 1>haven't mentioned. Did anyone say Dead Rising? Dead Rising is
<v Speaker 1>one of the answers? Then Okami and Annie Musha. So
<v Speaker 1>they have leading brands here listed as Mega Man, Devil
<v Speaker 1>May Cry, Dead Rising, Okami, Dragon's Dogma, Ace Attorney, and
<v Speaker 1>Annie Musha. Obviously, the fact that that Street Fighter, Resident
<v Speaker 1>Evil and a Monster aren't here is like suggesting something
<v Speaker 1>about what they mean here by leading brands, which is
<v Speaker 1>we want to like make it clear that we still
<v Speaker 1>believe in these ones. But are you surprised to see
<v Speaker 1>Dead Rising there?
<v Speaker 2>Jan, I'm I'm surprised, Grub. If anything, I guess street Fighter,
<v Speaker 2>Monster Hunter, and Ari not being on here just in
<v Speaker 2>Capcom's mind makes me think that they are totally in
<v Speaker 2>their own lanes at this point, that they are kind
<v Speaker 2>of separate from this core Capcom ip Uh. I'm very
<v Speaker 2>curious what this may potentially mean at internally at capcom
<v Speaker 2>as to like what I mean, they think you have like.
<v Speaker 1>A couple of words und here, whether we're it says
<v Speaker 1>leading brands, It says like new IP, sequel, remix, ports,
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So it means like all these are at
<v Speaker 1>least up for maybe one of those things.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what new IP.
<v Speaker 1>Would necessarily mean, but maybe they mean like working, going
<v Speaker 1>into other realms of media or something like that, which, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I could see that for any of these.
<v Speaker 2>I feel really bad for the Dino crisis fans out there, Crub.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it does feel like they missed their window. You know,
<v Speaker 1>there was they were working on a Dinal crisis thing
<v Speaker 1>of some sort recently, and I think they just cancel it.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like they're like, we'll focus on Resident Evil
<v Speaker 1>even more, which I'm sure is actually the right move,
<v Speaker 1>and eventually they'll run out of Resident Evil, and I
<v Speaker 1>think the Dinal crisis will be waiting for them at
<v Speaker 1>that point.
<v Speaker 2>Grub. They're gonna circle back, is what they're gonna do.
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna circle exactly, all right, just real quick.
<v Speaker 1>Squaring Nix reported its earnings that sales were down but
<v Speaker 1>profits were up. Final Fantasy Tactics, Dragon Quest one to two,
<v Speaker 1>and seven Reimagined all did very well for them, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Okay, that's pretty good news because I feel
<v Speaker 1>like we come out of Squaring years previously and we
<v Speaker 1>get the kind of equivalent releases and Square never seemed happy,
<v Speaker 1>So maybe they're be able to Maybe they're actually finding
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are working and they can keep doing
<v Speaker 1>more of that. The maybe headline for why overall revenue
<v Speaker 1>was down is that Final Fantasy fourteen had don trail
<v Speaker 1>the previous year, did not have something equivalent this year,
<v Speaker 1>and obviously that's changing because now they have more stuff
<v Speaker 1>coming for Final Fantasy fourteen. All right, that does it
<v Speaker 1>for the headlines. Let's get to the poll question from yesterday.
<v Speaker 1>I am going to bring up the most fresh results
<v Speaker 1>right now. Let's see here, did you get sorrows yes
<v Speaker 1>or no?
<v Speaker 3>I did? I said yes?
<v Speaker 1>Seventeen percent of people also said yes. Eighty three percent
<v Speaker 1>said no. Jane, I just I think that there is
<v Speaker 1>a chunk of that eighty three percent where it's just
<v Speaker 1>as soon as that thing is fifty dollars, I will
<v Speaker 1>jump on, and then a much bigger slice that's like
<v Speaker 1>once that thing is forty dollars or less, I will
<v Speaker 1>be there. I you know, I'm like having a conversation
<v Speaker 1>in a comment section right now with something about like,
<v Speaker 1>are rogue lights and roguelikes niche? And it's you know,
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's a hard thing to say. When
<v Speaker 1>Slay the Spy or two launched to five hundred thousand
<v Speaker 1>concurrent players on Steam and sold three million copies in
<v Speaker 1>a week and five million copies in a month, those
<v Speaker 1>are blockbuster numbers. That is a blockbuster video game. So
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether or not it's popular because it's a
<v Speaker 1>roguelike or whatever, I mean, it's clear that those games
<v Speaker 1>can find an audience, and it's not the exact same
<v Speaker 1>kind of game that Sorrows is, obviously, But I think
<v Speaker 1>the bigger problem is just the price. People have an
<v Speaker 1>idea in their head of the value of a roguelike,
<v Speaker 1>and seventy dollars ain't it. And I think we kind
<v Speaker 1>of all kind of accepted that is what's happened here
<v Speaker 1>with Sorrows, right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think maybe if the story I don't want
<v Speaker 2>to say developed more but resonated with audiences better, it
<v Speaker 2>could have justified this seventy dollars price tag for folks
<v Speaker 2>that like want to re engage with that go into
<v Speaker 2>runs to like kind of get more story. But I
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people will unfortunately see this as
<v Speaker 2>like this is just returnal again.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's the maternal was new and fresh and a
<v Speaker 1>part of a kind of a launch window of PS five.
<v Speaker 3>They had a lot more going for it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I don't I can see that audience or
<v Speaker 2>those people also thinking like seventy dollars, especially when there
<v Speaker 2>are newer experiences or other games that will I don't
<v Speaker 2>want to say command your time better, but respect your
<v Speaker 2>time better. I'm not saying that SARS doesn't, but like
<v Speaker 2>there are other games out there, I can see people
<v Speaker 2>just waiting to spend their money on like a forts
<v Speaker 2>like Double O seven.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, all right, a new poll question, do you care
<v Speaker 1>about realistic graphics?
<v Speaker 3>Yes or no?
<v Speaker 1>Minutes since we've like I've just asked that kind of
<v Speaker 1>question realistic graphics. I don't like the word graphics anymore,
<v Speaker 1>jan I just don't like the way it sounds. Feels
<v Speaker 1>like h does not appreciate the nuance of what, like
<v Speaker 1>what video game visuals are actually doing these days.
<v Speaker 3>But I think it serves this question, I.
<v Speaker 2>Think of anything us here GB care more about style.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, yes, yes, and style is so nebulous, right,
<v Speaker 1>It's not not just the graphics, not even just the art,
<v Speaker 1>just everything, the presentation, the ux honestly, like you know,
<v Speaker 1>sound effects, what happens when you press a button, like
<v Speaker 1>just the feedback. All that stuff contributes to style and
<v Speaker 1>it's so much more than just graphics.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right.
<v Speaker 1>We'll get the results of that on Giant Bombs Game
<v Speaker 1>Best Mornings tomorrow to wrap up the week. Looking forward
<v Speaker 1>to it, everybody speaking of Giant Bomb Jan I mean
<v Speaker 1>there's more Donkey Kong happening.
<v Speaker 3>What times he starting today? I know, we got some other.
<v Speaker 1>Stuff happening on the schedule that might cause a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of a break.
<v Speaker 2>Mikey is going to be after we wrap Tomodacci Life
<v Speaker 2>later or marry me Tomodacci today.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, and going into the evening everybody. Uh so, I
<v Speaker 1>mean he's not gonna have like a mega long stream.
<v Speaker 1>He might maybe goes like four am. We'll see, but uh,
<v Speaker 1>you know.
<v Speaker 2>I think I have a podcast today.
<v Speaker 1>We do have a podcast today, Yeah, I mean you
<v Speaker 1>can take a break from that too, if he needs
<v Speaker 1>to I don't know. We'll see and then uh, he
<v Speaker 1>will probably be playing tomorrow as well, so uh, but
<v Speaker 1>tune in. I think there's a strong chance that he
<v Speaker 1>will be bothering the beavers today, and again, you're not
<v Speaker 1>gonna you're not gonna want to miss that. I need
<v Speaker 1>to see if because if he one shots it, it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the most impressive thing I've ever seen. And
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a chance that happens, not really bad,
<v Speaker 1>but if he does, it'd be amazing. And then if
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't, I think he's gonna be on there for
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<v Speaker 2>So I am confident we will get close, if not
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for watching jan thank you for hanging out
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