Give It More Energy with Sandra Mason | Golden Hour

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Speaker 1: And today we have a very special guest. Kathy and I love this woman. Our friend Sondra Mason is here. Hi, Sandra, thanks so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: Hey ladies, I love you too, goody to hear you.

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Speaker 2: We are so excited to see you and talk with you today. Sondra. I want to know you live in Hot Atlanta. Hot Lanta. Tell me what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Well, not a lot. It's not hot, it's very pleasant, very yeah. Whether it's perfect, not hot, not cold, no wind, it's just perfect. It's time for people to visit Hot Lanta.

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Speaker 1: April May best time of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Sondra, we got to claw the elephant in the room. You know, I'm going to do it because that's what I do.

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Speaker 3: Hey, w's elephant kat?

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Speaker 1: Well, here she goes.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can talk about your f bombs. We can, but I know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that to you. I'm gonna make it worse. I'm going to ask you about your daughter's wedding. Well, please settle this once and for all. You've got two fab yeous daughters. Settle it for us about the marriage of your daughter that took place why we were on a golden pickled bachelor. Go ahead, do it, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Not a problem. I gotta tell you, guys, I got so much flak from people, but who no one knows really the backstory. So let me first of all give you a little bit of backstory. My daughter is fifty one years old, her hubby is fifty three or fifty four. He's a grandfather. This is each for each of them, their second marriage. So hopefully that he helps to let people know it's not like she was twenty something and she had white down and you know, six bridesmaids and all the who you know, it was a very very small affair. But here's the thing, as you know, because it was said on air that my daughter said to me, Mom, I've got my guy. You go get yours number one. What what America didn't hear is that my son in law because he's such a great guy, he said, Mom, he said our marriage, No, he said, our ceremony is eight minutes. Our marriage is a lifetime. He said, celebrate the marriage. Go and he practically shut me.

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Speaker 2: Another Hallmark card here, Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He said, and he said. They were both like, if you don't go, we're going to be pretty upset with you. So guess what I did. I went. And they were so proud of me for doing that, form making the decision for going ahead and going and.

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Speaker 2: So wait, just to be clear, Sandra, this was not like an expensive church wedding mom being there. It was It really was a very small affair that your daughter insisted that you go on the Golden Bachelor. This wasn't your decision, as much of it was your your daughters. Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Daughter and son in law?

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Speaker 1: I mean, can I chime in? This guy sounds great?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, you guys just don't know. I mean, she was on a trip here recently. He called a check on me and he was he misses her, and so he thought he'd called me and he.

00:04:18
Speaker 2: Can I just say Bachelor Nation for all you listen to this podcast to me the what is your daughter's name? Sandra?

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Speaker 3: Her name is Evanie evev Evany and Evan Evan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I love it is that, you know what? Evane sounds like. She found her perfect match. I don't know about you, guys, but I'm envious. Who cares a wedding ceremony is like ten minutes. It's like the life together.

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Speaker 3: Oh, let me correct and you're right. Yeah, it was such a quick thing with I think her dad and a couple of people. It was so fast. It was Harley Worth. Let's put it this way. If I weren't even on the Golden Bachelor, I probably wouldn't have flown for it. It wasn't that big a deal.

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Speaker 2: Sondra. What was faster your relationship with Gary or your daughter's wedding.

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Speaker 3: That's a toss up. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Sondra hung out for quite some time on this sh so envious you and I both, Sandra, we left together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can I just say no?

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Speaker 2: Can I just say? Yeah? I got to go on the fancy extravaganza trip. Oh no, wait, that was you guys. You went to the Santa Monica pair.

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Speaker 1: That was fun.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was real fun with the hair wind blown and the water milting, the makeup.

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Speaker 2: And did you go on did you go on the Ferris Wield? Did you on the what's it called the roller roller coaster?

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Speaker 1: My hands were straight up in the iris.

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Speaker 2: Did you?

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Speaker 3: Did you know? That roller coaster was not what you call death threading.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of a cars remember the bumper car.

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Speaker 3: And the bumber car, the pirate ship or whatever it's called.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, all right, whoa, it was fun, it was I.

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Speaker 3: Had more fun throwing balls at the targets and winning a doll than I did.

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Speaker 2: This is yall, this is old. This is what old folks do. We we like to go to amusement parks and throw stuffed animals.

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Speaker 1: I mean really, it was a boardwalk and we were playing games. It is fun I take for grandkids. I always had fun doing that. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: So are you dating? Are you dating? Or did Hylan from the Chippendale's Ruined Katie?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 3: He's a nice young man. You guys just don't know because I had time to talk with him, and he's going places. He's No, he's not just a body. No, he's a smacher.

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Speaker 2: Rather day him or Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 3: Well, Steve's married. So if they weren't married, oh, well what do you think? I mean, Steve's more age appropriate.

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Speaker 1: I love Steve.

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Speaker 3: He's a character.

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Speaker 2: Did you have fun on.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we had fun.

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Speaker 1: I struggled with a couple of the questions and I was a little bit embarrassed. But I have the time of my life just being with all you guys.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was fun before and the after the show that was, you know, getting into some folks I hadn't seen in a while. Yes, feeling that this might be our last Tura, at least for a long while.

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Speaker 2: Never Sondra, never say the last No, I know.

00:07:29
Speaker 3: But for a while.

00:07:29
Speaker 1: Anyway, Edith reached out to me yesterday and said she's feeling the same way she goes Susan. There's no date in the future. I'm hoping for the Golden Bachelorette that we all get to come back. And I said, we're all going to be bachelorettes.

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Speaker 3: Maybe judge a contest, yes, something, something, you know something, you.

00:07:48
Speaker 2: All go and judge the contest. You know what I'm doing and looking at them, I'm getting the names and the numbers of the rejects, and they're all going to be mine.

00:07:58
Speaker 3: You know. Speaking of which, I know a guy who might be Casey. He's gone through the casting process and he hasn't been given the final I don't know if I should tell the producers that I know him or not. I don't know if it's critical.

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Speaker 1: But remember us though we had to wait such a long time. You don't know. They don't like to tell you too far in advance, and forget that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this guy's name. What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: But he lives in Atlanta, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'll move yeah, we're not those people that say we'll never move, We're sure we're gone and not.

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Speaker 3: He's six foot five, Kathy, What do you.

00:08:34
Speaker 1: Mean, Kathy? What about Susan? I thought we were friend.

00:08:37
Speaker 2: He's tall and I yeah, I love you, Sandra, Thank you everybody girl.

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Speaker 1: Sandra, since you've gotten home, yes, do you feel the same way about what you're looking for in a man or a partner?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Pretty much absolutely. You know, being on the show didn't change my desires and just you know, maybe a little more motivated.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're more motivated?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I got a taste of what it might be like to date and meet a man, and so now i'm you know, my radar is a little stronger than it was before we went on the show.

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Speaker 1: She's ready, guys, she is, She's ready.

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Speaker 2: But wait, can I just say as the world now knows, they all know our age because it was plastered on the TV screen every week. Sandra is seventy five. She will be seventy six. I think in July it is your birthday. You look fabulous, may I say? But I want to know you were one of the older women on the Bachelor. You know, they went as young as sixty and you're seventy at the time, was seventy five. That's a fifteen year age difference. Talk to me just a little bit about how that felt you, because you look fabulous, you're fit. I'm just curious how you felt being a seventy five year old on the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, let me just correct you. I wasn't just one of the oldest. I was the oldest. I was older than she rolls her eyes. I was older than anyone at the mansion, the crew, the producers, the caterers. I was the oldest person walking the soil there. Okay, how did I feel? No big deal. First of all, no one knew my age, so you know, it was not a big deal. And it's good to feel young and to be in shape and all that, so no one questions me, you know, you know, no one even knew. I think it was Edith who asked me about my daughters one day, you know, ask me about my kids, and I told her two daughters. She said how old are they? And I said they're fifty one and thirty nine, And she said what She said, well, how old are you? That's when I told her I was seventy five.

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Speaker 1: She said, what I remember when you told me I thought you were lying?

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Speaker 2: Who would possibly lie about their age? I'm sixty, I'm sixty.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just don't still any kind of way, Cath. It's it's, it is what it is, and I'm I'm glad to be walking this earth.

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Speaker 2: But well, and you're an amen. But I guess you know I've said this many times before. Ageism is alive and well, and do people say, oh, Sundra, you look so great for seventy five? You know, do they say that to you? Yeah, well, they don't know.

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Speaker 3: My age say that. Otherwise people say, god, you're a good looking lady.

00:11:34
Speaker 2: Are I like that?

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Speaker 3: I like that more than you know? Or seventy five? But that's that's a cherry on top.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Yeah, say you fell in love with Gary or whoever your show was with Move away from home?

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Speaker 3: It depends, guys. You know, that's also circumstantial. So where he lives, where his home is, you know, what's his family life like? What is you know? Is he a city guy or is he a country guy? Does he work? Does he not work? I mean, there's so many variables that I can't just blanketly say yes, I would move.

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Speaker 2: Women women are Susan, are you saying move permanently or split time? What are you saying?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think the split in time is the answer. I absolutely do and think about it. We're women of our age, so we don't work anymore. Well, I still do, believe it or not. But it's not about work. It's more about what you just said. Depends on where he lives. That for me would have a lot to do with it. I would prefer to do part time here, part time there. I mean, you have to negotiate at this point. Some women, well they're not crazy about where they live. They're up and leave. Maybe he lives in a great spot he thinks you do.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm a little confused, Sondra. Are you saying you would not you you're sure or you're not sure that you would consider spending time splitting time with summer? Which are you saying?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's an ideal situation, Okay, Because, like Susan said, we're each what's the word, we each have families and extended families and hobbies and friends and clubs or whatever we're into. So splitting time to me sounds like the ideal thing. Now, who knows. Maybe he lives in Hawaii, might live in a place that I would love to move to. He might love Atlanta, who knows.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say. I got to say, you know, if Gary and I clearly you know, we were in the friend zone friend zone as well, and god knows, I don't you know. I don't want to be in a cornfield. But if I had loved Gary, I would spend you know, back and forth Austin to Pudson, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would go for a.

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Speaker 2: Week, I'm saying, but I'm saying, would you have split time? I would have split time?

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Speaker 3: I would too, I would you know what?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to answer because there wasn't that love for right.

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Speaker 2: No, But I'm saying, anybody, yeah, it would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean my kids are scattered most two of my boys are here, but my daughter's three and a half hours away, so I still have to drive to visit her. But to move across the United I didn't say move.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say move. I said split time. And you've said that, Susan, you would do it.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely would. But my question was would you refuse to go? And is that like a deal breaker.

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Speaker 3: Now, are you asking me or I was, No, I wouldn't. I would not refuse, absolutely would not. I mean, if he's ideal, otherwise, it's something that we could just work through. I you know, it's not like like you say, it's not like I have a job. I'm taking care of grandkids or kids or dogs or what. I'm free to navigate to live your life.

00:15:08
Speaker 1: So we actually talked to Joan about it, and we were all like, we have to have two houses. He has one, we have one, and then we need a guest house, a beach house.

00:15:16
Speaker 2: Can you believe Joan wants three houses? So you know we're gonna we're all going, We're all gonna surface at her third.

00:15:22
Speaker 3: You know said houses. Okay, anyway, it's another subject.

00:15:26
Speaker 2: All right, I have a question man, Are you dating? Seriously? Are you dating at all?

00:15:31
Speaker 3: No? Well, I've had a few dates, but nothing.

00:15:34
Speaker 2: That they come from your dms. Where did you meet them?

00:15:37
Speaker 3: Let's see two from my dms?

00:15:41
Speaker 2: Really, damn, what are we doing wrong?

00:15:44
Speaker 3: He likes us Cathy, and then one was bumped into at a grocery store. The other one's an introduction from a friend. So very various situations.

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Speaker 1: But you actually got d M and you liked him and start to chatting and.

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Speaker 3: And you can I tell you, guys, so how disappointed I was with the one that I thought was ideal. Now this is going to sound really crumbing.

00:16:09
Speaker 2: Okay, now speak, No one's listening.

00:16:14
Speaker 3: Should I whisper?

00:16:15
Speaker 2: Good?

00:16:15
Speaker 3: Good looking guy, articulate, financially secure? Uh, granddad? You know he had all the parts. But your guys, I don't know how to say this.

00:16:29
Speaker 2: I say.

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Speaker 3: I found myself talking and over talking because I didn't want to hear him talk.

00:16:35
Speaker 1: I didn't know what.

00:16:36
Speaker 3: But let me let me tell you why, because get ready for this thing. His breath was.

00:16:46
Speaker 1: You guy, you can't and it wasn't garlic. It was something.

00:16:49
Speaker 3: Wasn't wasn't from yesterday. Yes, this was something wrong.

00:16:56
Speaker 2: It's called Okay, I'm sorry. Can I just do a public service and now? Yes, ps A brush your teeth, floss and go to the dentist at least twice a year, thank you so much.

00:17:07
Speaker 1: No, sometimes it's a condition and they can't even help it more.

00:17:10
Speaker 3: Than using blossing. This was a pistemic. There was something wrong, either some periodontal issues.

00:17:16
Speaker 2: You know, or it's a dentist. A dentist.

00:17:20
Speaker 3: No, it's more than a dentist.

00:17:22
Speaker 1: It's like, what's sad is it's sad that you couldn't have that conversation because you didn't know them well enough. I mean, and it's not my palm.

00:17:33
Speaker 2: I can't guys, Hi, I'm Sondra. Something died inside of you. I'm sorry. I'm seriously, people, I'm.

00:17:44
Speaker 1: Sorry, but I agree.

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Speaker 3: I have a nickname for you too well and Landers and deer Abby lid your podcast, you know when you're answering questions and you guys are hilarious. And that's all I can think of was the two sisters who have those advice columns.

00:18:05
Speaker 1: I'm still feeling sorry for this perfect Ti. I just want to pull the doctor and say, look, I can help you. You are perfect in every way, but I can't come near you. You need to fix it so I can come near you.

00:18:17
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, guys were sitting across the table, not next to each other, and all I could do is than back and turn my head to the side and keep talking so he wouldn't.

00:18:26
Speaker 2: And Okay, Sandra, that's clearly your worst dak. Can we get off that subject? Give me your best date story. Please.

00:18:34
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, guys, the best date was just a guy that we had a great conversation, but I don't know. He just wasn't for me. Well, I think he won. He was a a little bit too young, and he was cool.

00:18:47
Speaker 2: What's your young son? Tell us? Tell money?

00:18:51
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we discussed my age. Okay, so if you're five something, it ain't gonna work.

00:18:58
Speaker 2: If you need fifty something.

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Speaker 3: Fifty something, come on, that's twenty years now.

00:19:02
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That's your daughter's older brother. Is what that is?

00:19:05
Speaker 3: Thank you? I might be good for a rolling the hay.

00:19:07
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say he'd be fun for a minute.

00:19:12
Speaker 2: That's all. You're easy, Susan.

00:19:16
Speaker 3: Nothing.

00:19:16
Speaker 1: Well, I get it, I get it.

00:19:18
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what. We all have our our limits, our preferences, and we've got to cut it off somewhere. You know, I'm not a cougar, never was, and don't want to be called that or considered that. So I really want to date age appropriately, which for me is maybe sixty four, sixty five and above.

00:19:39
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what a coop? Why do you think you're not a cougar? You're older, you're hot, you're self sufficient, you're financially stable. That is not a couger.

00:19:50
Speaker 2: No, A cougar is someone who dates men younger than she.

00:19:54
Speaker 3: Not just younger, but extremely you know different U two or three. You know, coogar when you're fifty and you're dating a thirty year old.

00:20:02
Speaker 2: Now I'm seventy. I think I'm a cougar if I dated sixty nine year old.

00:20:08
Speaker 1: Well here's the Sondra. We're happy. At least you got out there a few times. I mean, look it up. We have a podcast each other an Abby, that's right, that's right, Abby.

00:20:22
Speaker 2: How you doing tonight? Abby? So wait, I want to know. God knows, your ideal date was not kissing that guy. What is your ideal date? Tell me what would it be like? Drinks, dinner, Netflix, fire, you know what we do.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say ideal date was that guy with good breath, but going somewhere. You know what, you guys, I'm real easy. You know I don't drink as you know that I'm not a foodie. So I'm open and.

00:20:50
Speaker 1: We could go activity, pickleball, you know, pickleball week off.

00:20:54
Speaker 3: Something as simple and stupid as taking a walk. Literally, you guys, I like that dancing. I love to dance watching a ballgame. You know I'm not I'm not a woman that has to be wined and dined and treasured and all that.

00:21:11
Speaker 2: Just wait, you don't need three houses?

00:21:15
Speaker 3: Not no again, I don't want to have to clean three houses or manage to honey.

00:21:19
Speaker 2: If you can afford three houses, you're not cleaning any of them. Let's be clear, I hear.

00:21:34
Speaker 1: I have a good question for you. What advice do you have for contestants going on the Golden Bachelorette?

00:21:44
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a million dollar question.

00:21:46
Speaker 2: Wait wait do you mean the men going on.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: Or the It's the Bachelorette show? What advice would she give the men?

00:21:52
Speaker 3: The men? Okay, when you say going on or trying out? For which?

00:21:56
Speaker 1: What are you going on?

00:21:58
Speaker 3: Going on this show?

00:22:00
Speaker 1: What advice would you give them?

00:22:02
Speaker 3: Well? I would say, act like you're extremely happy to be there, happy to meet the bachelorette. Please, you know, look into her eyes when you speak with her, Pay her and only her attention. Doesn't make a difference. How many cameras, what crew whatever is there really focus on her? Make her feel so special at that moment.

00:22:26
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Sundra, Can I interrupt for one second? How do you do that with three minutes of time?

00:22:32
Speaker 3: Well, whatever time you have, if it's three and a half minutes, you do you give them You're undivided, and you smile and you act happy to be there, and just you know, just give it all plus make it.

00:22:46
Speaker 1: Just be yourself, no, be true to yourself.

00:22:49
Speaker 3: Yourself with more energy. Just give it more energy than you have on a normal date. You know in your hometown, Susan, what do you what would you do?

00:22:57
Speaker 2: I'm curious what your advice is.

00:22:59
Speaker 1: Exactly what I did? I just am who I am?

00:23:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, just be me.

00:23:03
Speaker 1: I am a pretty positiz like that.

00:23:05
Speaker 3: You've got charisma coming out of your well.

00:23:08
Speaker 1: But you know what, I noticed that Gary gave each of us on our three minutes his undivided attention. He paid attention, and I think that was really important.

00:23:18
Speaker 3: He did he and do you know who else did that?

00:23:20
Speaker 1: Joey?

00:23:21
Speaker 3: Joey was very good at that. But when you're vying, when you're in a pool of people and you're vying for that woman's attention, and in this case, you got to make her feel like she is just.

00:23:34
Speaker 2: You yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I'm sorry. I'm back on Joey. When you thought, Joey, you can say and do whatever the hell you want, it's gonna go well for you. Let's be honest.

00:23:44
Speaker 3: Well, okay, you're right, but you know these guys vying for one lady and having to, you know, work around the other guys that you know that that might give you the edge for the first one on one date or the something something whatever.

00:23:58
Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be as easy for the men as it was for us? You know, see how we all bonded. We were happy for the next person to have a date. We were excited for them. Do you think the manners are going to be as.

00:24:13
Speaker 3: Yes with limits. One, they're older gentlemen, so yes, they're going to be a little more sophisticated and not ready to bump chests and thump each other.

00:24:20
Speaker 1: I think they started what it was it fifty seven's.

00:24:24
Speaker 3: But they're not twenties and thirties, dog true, okay.

00:24:28
Speaker 2: And two, I just think they like fun.

00:24:31
Speaker 3: The men are just going to have a little more respect for one another. I would like to think that that's what they're going to do in their fifties. And sixties and maybe older.

00:24:42
Speaker 1: Come on, they have to have to shit together by then, right.

00:24:45
Speaker 2: Wait, I have a question. Saundras had dates and Susan you and I. Well, Susan, you've had a couple, but I've had no dates, So I'm curious. Sondro, give me some dating advice. What you got for me? Seriously, because it's not working for me.

00:24:57
Speaker 3: In question, Well, one, you guys are working two dog line Mark. Okay, I'm just saying you're working Susan's Susan's West Coast, East Coast, Alaska, Antarctica, Susan's every dog on weird, so she doesn't have time for dating. I get yeah, But you know, I think, Kathy, you just got to be in the right place at the right time. You just got to keep living life, keep going whatever your your interest in hobbies are, Kathy, just keep doing it because you'll bump into somebody and again, I know you've put out the feelies. Your friends know you want to guy, so something will happen. You know your friends will think of someone or you're really I'm.

00:25:34
Speaker 2: Not really worried. I'm really not worried. I just was. It was more like Susan and I were talking. We're both strong personalities and that's not everybody's cup of tea.

00:25:43
Speaker 1: So we answer questions all the time from our fans that send them in, and we want you to be a part of this. Will be okay with that right now? Sure? Yeah, Kathy, you want to read the first all right?

00:25:56
Speaker 2: So okay, Sondra, here we go. Hello there, Olivia. Here. I am a mom to an adorable little two year old boy, and being a mom has been the best thing in the world. The not so fun part has been the relationship with my husband. Since we had the baby, we have been so disconnected and we hardly ever have any intimate time or alone time anymore. We haven't had a date night in years, and it feels like he doesn't really put in any effort when we're on the couch, just as too, when the baby is sleeping, he's just on his phone or not really engaging with me. I know people say the first year is tough, but we're two years in and it's not getting any better. I recommended therapy, but he doesn't want to go. I'd love any advice you gals have for me on how to get my marriage back on track after having a kid, and how to spice it up. We want more kids, so we're going to have to have sex again eventually. Thank you for any help you can provide. What do you think, Sandra.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: Think there's a luck unsaid there? But I mean maybe she needs to spice it up. Come in the room, sit on the couch with him with some pasties on or some I don't.

00:27:11
Speaker 1: Know, dress it up, baby, dress it up and get his attention his Wake him up.

00:27:16
Speaker 3: And he'll say, whoa you know. And if you've got to be aggressive, touch him, love him, stroke him, do whatever you got to do to make it happen. You've got to out of that slump of you know, he may be tired because the kid wore him out, like the kid wears you out. But where's her out? I should say, But make it happen. If he's not making it happen, someone has to. So let it be you let it be.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: We all heard her say. She mentioned counseling, So that's telling me that they've talked about this, that she obviously complained about it a little bit, like why are we not? Could it be that he's in another place? I mean, there's that What do you mean in another place. We're not interested anymore.

00:28:03
Speaker 2: Could be Hey, guys came out.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: I like the pasty part myself.

00:28:08
Speaker 2: But oh Jesus, girlfriend, how about some negliges with the stilettos. I think you're both overlooking. We both have been parents a long time. I remember what it was like a two year old. Kids are exhausting, you know what, you know what it's like. She rushed from marriage and having the child to therapy. How about this, Olivia, get a babysitter, surprise your husband, go to the motel six down the road. Whatever the point is, leave the child with your parents, a babysitter somebody, go have a night with your husband. This is the thing people never want to say. A good marriage takes work. And children are as much as we love our children, they do put you know, a fracture or not fracture, but you know, there are a lot of work and they can make a marriage a little bit tougher. So absolutely take some time.

00:29:19
Speaker 3: What do you think that a counselor worth their Saltwood had suggested that already?

00:29:26
Speaker 2: I mean literally, well the husband Olivia's husband doesn't want to go to counseling, and you.

00:29:31
Speaker 3: Know what, Oh, I'm sorry I missed it, Okay.

00:29:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he probably doesn't want to go counseling because it's like, you know, I'm hungry, let's go buy out the grocery store. I mean, let's start with first things first. Give the guy some attention.

00:29:45
Speaker 1: She is and it's two years and he's not paying attention back. So one, you can try to spice it up. But if that doesn't work. And I've not got what you were saying, that kids exhaust you. He's it wor all day. She's the one that is exhausted. And she finally gets some time yes with her husband, you know, and he's not paying attention.

00:30:08
Speaker 2: It's a problem for man. You know what Susan's saying. He's got a little bit on the side.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: Do you think he does? I hear that.

00:30:16
Speaker 3: No.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: Well, she says her marriage is not on track, and she said, you know what's interesting here, she said, we want more children. We're going to have to have sex again. Doesn't sound like she's so interested in having sex either, which maybe that's the problem.

00:30:33
Speaker 1: Maybe No, no, no, Kathy, she wants it. He's not paying attention to her. He's sitting beside her what a great time to touch each other. And he's not interested. He's on his phone, he's doing other things.

00:30:45
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just going by again. Guys, all we know is by what Olivia's writing. She said, we want more kids, so we're going to have to have sex again eventually. Maybe she's not as forward with him as maybe she's saying she is. I don't know. We don't know.

00:31:03
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bring any more kids in them.

00:31:05
Speaker 2: No, No, well yeah, I think they got to, you know.

00:31:10
Speaker 1: I think I'm sorry Olivia.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: I know, but don't you think people think marriage is gonna they jump in and think marriage is going to be easy. I think it's hard. I mean, my daughter just had her first child. She and her husband and that child just had. She's adorable. She's had her first birthday. I can see where they don't have as much time for each other right now, because all their waking hours are spent. Both of them work full time. They come home, there's grocery shopping, you know, work to finish.

00:31:37
Speaker 1: The first years hard, there's two years in. He should come around. Maybe he just doesn't like you know, affection, Maybe he's that guy. We don't know.

00:31:47
Speaker 2: We maybe don't know what would you do?

00:31:49
Speaker 3: Soandra, you know, maybe o Libya needs to go to Kamsing by herself at first wait good point and and maybe her gun or I don't know. I just.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: So Susan, I thought someone was going to sigut out some sex toys.

00:32:05
Speaker 1: Hair well sexy outfit was the start, I mean, or you know me, I would take the womanizer and sit next to him and do me. I mean, hello, you don't want to help.

00:32:15
Speaker 3: In other words, he needs stimulation somehow, some way she knows him best, so she would know. Olivia, hopefully you would know the way that the best way to tantalize him, to get him off the couch, get him off the phone, get him off.

00:32:28
Speaker 2: The or get him on the couch, if you know what I mean.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: Whatever you got to do, Olivia. But it sounds like you, Olivia, have to take the first step here.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, take charge, girlfriend, take charge.

00:32:39
Speaker 2: You know, I just I got feel say, I know you know what I hate I hate sound. It sounds like this marriage is in trouble. And I just keep thinking, you know, you have a two year old who need mommy and daddy, and come on, people, figure out a way. I hope they will, Olivia, I wish you and your husband the very best. I hope you guys figure it out.

00:32:59
Speaker 1: Because the sex outfit and the babysitter start there.

00:33:03
Speaker 3: Absolutely the babysitter, yes, you can get the baby awake.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: Don't do the babysitter though.

00:33:08
Speaker 1: No.

00:33:10
Speaker 3: All right, Anne and Abby, you two.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: Sander, we love you, We're so glad that you joined us, and we have to make some plans for all of us to see each other. Well, that does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thank you to our lovely best buddy over here, Sandra for joining us today. We really have fun talking to you no matter where it is or when it is.

00:33:35
Speaker 2: It is inviting me on here and Sandra, you gave us some great advice. You always have words of wisdom and we love getting to catch up with you. More to come soon. Thank you all so much for joining us. Please be sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour as we always have new episodes coming out every week and you really don't want to miss one.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: And keep those questions coming because without the questions will have nothing to talk about except me and Kathy and that won't be fun. You can go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour.

00:34:11
Speaker 3: Bye Anne, Bye Hebby.

00:34:13
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