#327 - Keith Urban (Part 2) How He Keeps Things Normal at Home with His Wife + Going to Rehab and Overcoming Addiction + Debunks A Rumor We Found On the Internet

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Speaker 1: When you became Keith haven'tone rolled through some number one here two thousand and one, your first number one, but for the grace of God's here a little bit of is I again after the years of struggle on a label to have a hit? Did it feel like a relief or did it feel like this is amazing because there's a difference. Was it like, oh my god, thank you? Was it like whoa, That's what I'm talking about only above? It was surreal to have a number one song in America was just crazy. Remember that day like it was yesterday. Really, oh my god, twenty years ago, you still remember it like that your first Yeah, I remember exactly the house I was at, what I was doing? Who told me everything? Like detail? Because it was too surreal. I was like number one, like the number one most played song and country radio in America? Truly? Really did your life change after that? After you had a number one? Okay, since you could say it, um, I felt like, okay, now we got a chance to get some more music going. And the next single off to that, I think was Where the Black Top Bands, which is weird because it peaked. I was looking at numbers. It wasn't a number one, But that, to me is one of the songs I think of when I think of you and your catalog is where the black Top ends. It wasn't even number one, which shows you not all number ones or career songs, and not all career songs are number one songs. Even in two thousand one two thou two, did that song feel big like a number one song where the black Top ends? I can't remember that that when you can't remember now, I can't remember that. I mean, I remember making that a whole album with Matt Rawlings, and it was the first time where I was in a studio and having gone through all of the famous producers and realizing none of it works for me. It just I don't know what I'm gonna do. Um. There was a guy running Capital Records at the time called Pat Quigley, and he was the president. And I used every proper famous producer and none of it was working. And I went into Patt and I said, can I just I had just done a session with Matt Rowlings for somebody else. The two of us were playing on it, and I clicked with him and I really liked him a light, and I said, could I just go and record some songs with this guy, because I think he can put a good band together and we can just make a record that sounds good. And he went, yeah, whatever. It was very much that case of like go do whatever you want to do. We're not that interest. You could tell was whatever it's going to. So we went and cut up the Grace God and like four or five songs, and I took him in and played for him and he goes, that sounds good. Just finished the record out. It was no big deal. And we handed in the record and it had its a love thing and I want to be her everything. All the singles that came out Grace God, Blacktop, all that stuff, um and put out love It's a love Thing, and I think I went to the number eighteen or something like, no, it's okay, pretty good. They put out another song, I want to Be Everything, and I got to top five or close to it, and it wasn't It was okay. Everything was okay. And then the label really focused on me and they put out Grace a God and it did that and I could feel everything changed after that. Whenever somebody like you comes out two thousand two, here's a little clip do you remember this one is vivid at your second number one, you do everything about it. Recording it first time, I'd work with Dan half um working out at sound kitchen at Franklin and the putting them, putting a band together and the set, the whole session. I remember it vividly because it got magical. Does a guy like Dan half challenge you? So? Uh. I was going to do the next record on my own um Golden Road, and I had already done six six sides of that record, including who were who were wanting me? I put the band together, I chose the studio, I chose the engineer. I put it all together. And then someone said, you know, you should try and work with Dan Half and I went, no, I don't want to work with him because and they went, well, he's a guitar player. I mean, I'm so not going to work with the guitar player who's gonna tell me what to play, you know. I don't want that. I've been down this road before. And they're like, we'll just give it a shot, you know. And I met with Dan, and this is a true story, and I was really a compliment to Dan. I met with Dan. I said, Okay, I've got this one song it's called Somebody Like You that that'd be a good one for us to start on. And I'd already been in the studio for two weeks with this band. We'd cut half the record, it's already done. And Dan says, Okay, this song feels great. Um, I think we should use this drummer. And I got already got the drummer. Well, I think we should use this space. But I got the whole band, Dan, I got the whole band, all right. Well, I liked work at this studio, I said, I'm already at the studio. We're gonna be at sound kitchen. Okay, Well, the engineer I like to use is already got. The engineer's name is Justin Ebank. And he goes, what do I do? When I go, you just show up. That's all you're gonna do. Show up because I want to see what you do. I'm sick of these producers that say their producer, but really they have great engineer, great players, they don't do anything. I saw it again and again and again, and I'm like, just show up. What the hell can you possibly bring to this session? I want to see? And he walked into that session. I've been with this band for two weeks. He walks in and I literally could feel all the musicianship go up a whole of the level just with him being in the room. He sat in the room, the band's playing a bit of Somebody Like You, and he goes, hey, Chris, just change that snare a little bit there. Okay, yep, leave that basse part out right there, and you play that bit over there, and he I watched him arrange this thing and the whole track is to elevate, and I like, well, damn, this guy is the real deal. He's so good. When did the town start to treat you differently? Tuesday? Um, I was already getting support from the town very early on. I think because of all those writing sessions, you know, and when you write with people where it gets out whether you can really sing, really play, whether you know about country music, if you're legit or just some poser really so, I think those sort of guitar pool sessions of people's houses going to the Bluebird, people knew I was for real. I was watching some of your performance with her. I guess all of it for Tina Turner for the Rock and Hall of Fame? Um, how did how do you do? How do you get called in to do that? I haven't seen any of that yet? You haven't, Um, what do you mean you haven't seen it? You don't watch? Do you watch your stuff? Well? I haven't seen that generally? Will you go and watch your stuff? It depends. Are you one of the guys that after a live show you want to go on criticket? I probably should do it more than I do. Yeah, it's always better when I get in there and care. How How does a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame invite come with Tina for Tina Turner? Uh? Because Brian Adams couldn't make it, And they just called me out and they go, would you come and fill in for Brian? Day before the Yeah, it was it was Thursday and Nick and I will go into the Bahamas. And my manager calls me and he goes, hey, can you come fill in for Brian? And the bla bla blah plan and I'm like, you will go into the Bahamas on Friday. He's like, you didn't hear what I said? And I was like, no, I heard you. We're heading off to the Bahamas and Nix in the car and Nicks like, oh, I think we should do that. That sounds fun. But in my I think in my head, I'm like, this sounds overwhelming. I've got to learn a song in record time, a song I've never played. It's not really my kind of song. It's not my vocal range, it's not in my key. I'm so in over my head, you know, I was terrified. You still get terrified, Yeah, wil Dear, Yeah, do you well that did anything musically would intimidate you? Yeah, to be thrown into something that's not really my zone, especially in that place. I'm like maybe standing up on stage in front of my Cartney and the food fighters and they're all you know, I pictured them are like arms crossed, like okay, what do you do? What's your thing? And I'm like, well, it's not this, It's not this is not it. So I could picture in my head when it comes to collaborations as far as your career is concerned, what do you look back at and go, Man, that one right there, we nailed it. You and who collaboration and so many I mean John doing Crossroads with John Mayer. To this day, I just loved that whole experience with him playing I learned a lot from him. Really, you learn from him? Yeah? Yeah, what do you learn from John Mayre? Um to make the song your own? You know, you gotta remember I still came from cover band land, which John did not, And so John approaches it as a pure artist and makes this song on his own. Because I remember saying him, now, the first didn't go like that, and he's like, yeah, but that's how I'm gonna sing it right on? Of course? Yeah. Is there a gamesmanship when you have two people that are so again, I'll just talk about the instrument for a second, so to be old, they're so proficient at their instrument. Are you guys? Do you feel each other out at first? Are you like, is he really as good as I've heard? Or is it you know, because you've you've heard for yourself, like on a record or on YouTube and not John specifically, but anyone, you know when you kind of cross path because I had room for squares and we played that record to death on that too a us um so as I was a fan right from the beginning. Um, I love the conversation, the musical conversation that happens, And the most important thing for me is spontaneity is just you know, you can rehearse, yeah yeah, yeah, but being in the moment and having that musical conversation with each other. This is everything. You ever meet someone you like, man, it's gonna be awesome, and you're like, it's not really r really as good as that's a hot or as as you know. I don't want you to say. Some people don't have a collaborative heart. That's what it is. They don't have a collaborative heart for whatever reason. They just don't um collaborate that kind of They have that thing of well, this is what I do, so you do your thing, I'll do my thing, and I'm like, well, let's do our thing. That's what I'm here for. On the opposite side of that, whoever you collaborated with it, you're like, oh, I didn't expect it to be as warm and as a just a friendly collaboration, but holy crap, we're in We're in it and it's rocking pink. I think was that when we did one too many? Why Why do you think you guys hit it off? Um? I think our voices go together really well, and I hope they would, but you never know until you hear it. But she was just unbelievably um giving with that whole project, you know, for a song that she didn't write, to be giving so much of her time and her effort to the too. You know, we shot a video as well, and then we shot footage which we can use in concerts, so we have her projected on the screening concert. That's old, time consuming and she was just amazing. Is it an issue whenever you're with an artist like that, because they also have their own music and their own singles and calendars, and when they want to put out their own to get pink on a song, do you go, Okay, well maybe we can release to the single, maybe not, depending on what your schedule is, right, I mean? Is that something? Is that an issue that you deal with other artists? Is something you have to consider? Yeah, for sure, because sometimes it's at the time he's not gonna work. You know. Yeah, it's great, the single sounds really great, but we're not going to release it at the right time. I was reading on the internet that you bowl? Are you some of the stuff I didn't know and could be crap? Are you a bowler? Yeah? Are you a good bowler? I'm Okay, how do I not know that? We've never talked about it or been bowling? True? But where do where do you? Where do you bowl? I haven't bowled in a long time. It's just one of those things that I happened to be not bad at, sort of out of the gate. Is that I hand coordination that guitar players have. You know your highest game is what you call it a game? Yeah? No, I don't know. Um uh, you know to have an average Yeah, it's not grabbing me. Three hundreds of perfect game right, definitely could crack no, but definitely could crack two. You play pool, Yeah, you go to that. I think this mandatory when you' from Australia, you've got to play pool? Is that a thing? Very much like all the pubs and they all had pool tables? Say sign of a misspent youth. We'll think about that. Though. You're you're good at bowling, you're good at pool. I mean is that you're obviously good at guitar? Which one made you good at which because you do have the hand eye coordination there. It's right, it's not a coincidence. All those are very hand eye coordinated. Do you think being a good guitar player helps you be a good bowler. I suck at base but basketball I cannot get that thing in the hoop. So that goes that theory. You sure or false? You were once a road guitarist for a bit for Brooks and Dune. No, never one of the many things on Wikipedia. It's not true. I didn't think the bowling was true. I'll be honest with you to be false. So where did that story come from? Do you know? Yeah, we toured with Brooks and Done in two thousand and one and I came out and played one song with them as a guitarist, and I think that then from then on, yeah, I was like the guy in the band. Well, what happened was we were going to pull a prank on them, and they had a guitar player in the band, Charlie. I'vegotten his last name, Charlie. And he had his hat down, really had a wore hat worked down super low, had this like leopard print shirt and everything. And during the tourists thinking I could probably masqueraders. I could probably pretend to be him and the boys wouldn't even know. And so during one of the shows, Charlie slipped out the back while he was playing, I already had the same clothes on, slipped right out and reclaimed his spot on the stage and played an entire song, and then in the middle of the when the solo happened, Kicks goes, Charlie and I ran down the front was shredding right in between kicks and running, and it took a bait for them to realize I wasn't, but they did realize. So I think that was where this room and got started. What's like a Tuesday at your house? Like? And I asked that because you and your wife exclusively are superstars. When you're together, I feel like you're kind of normal. It's it's it's a weird situation. Like when I see you two, if we're an event or something, I feel like as a couple, you're quite approachable. Individually, it's different because I feel like I know you and I could just come up to you. But individually I would say you're superstar Keith Urban and she is superstar Nicole Kidman. But together it's almost like a normal husband and wife. And I have not seen that vibe with any other couple. Usually it's different. It's like they're much more, they're much less approachable together because there's so much more power there. But it feels like you're a normal, normal married couple at home. Is that true? You'd be doing a house it's like super Nourmal. I saw her tell you once that she was gonna stop and get some milk, and I was like, you do that? What do you mean you're gonna get milk? Shouldn't someone be flying that in and like flying the cow in the rock and roll? And how how how do you guys maintain what do you focus on to try to have normalcy in a life that is abnormal? I mean, look love, genuine love and genuine gratitude for what we get to do. Nick has it. I have it, and I think it's we were both raised in a similar thing to Australia's. Really Australia has a thing called a tall poppy syndrome. Every as he knows about this, and it's if you get too big in the in the South, they say when you get above your raisin, right, they cut you down. You get cut down. The poppy seed plan is another one. The tall poppy gets So that's it. So it's the it's the tall poppy syndrome where you you don't last very long. If you're strutting around with this crazy ego in Australia, you could cut down so fast, so you just are always down to earth. You read the down to earth, you're out of work. It's one of the two, and it's it's put us in a really good place to have a good life because of it. What are you grateful for with her as a person? How does she make you better? I'm sure? And I asked this from a personal, just personal place, because I've never been married. I've never I've never even told anyone I hadn't either, right like, I never there was no I didn't know how to love until now Because I think you know you're talking about the trauma from your I struggle with a lot of that trauma until now and still am, but have found someone. But what is it about her as a human that you appreciate so much that brings a different side of you out that hadn't been exposed yet? Um? She really loves, genuinely loves and has real empathy, compassion, caring and love like I've never never experienced before. Do you ever watch her act and go, holy crap, that's so good? Or do you see it all the time where you just expected to be great. She's so good and I don't know anything about acting. Sometimes people say the bad actor. I'm like, I'll all looks the same to me. However, I was watching on Hulu with Nine Strangers the whole thing she's she's so good in that that you then go, okay, that's good acting. Like and she is nailing these series. Is if she's in a series, I'll watch it. It's just to that point now where if your wife is in a series, even if I don't know what it's about, the history of poop, I'm going to I'm going to watch it because she has showed that she's awesome in these things. Do you do you talk about projects with her? Does she talk about projects with you and them together and like should we do this? Yeah? Yeah, because we have to talk about scheduling and where it is and how's this going to work? And then of course a lot of the times reading scripts with her, you know, this is the being the Riccardo's which is the Lasilla Ball film that's coming out. Aaron Sulkin wrote most amazing scripts, and just getting to read these scripts is something that is it's surreal you read with her sometimes? Yeah, do you ever want to do that? Especially? No, I have zero interest in acting like none zero. Does she ever hear a song of yours and go? Yeah? She doesn't have to. I can tell you can. Here's the thing that's more important, and you may be able to relate to this. I've realized that whoever I play a song for, and I've had you at the house and i've played you things before, what how you react that song tells me a lot about the song, But what tells me more is how I feel planet for you. I've learned so much about how I feel about playing somebody a song, whether it's you or whether it's Nick. Because you know, she may go I love that, and inside I'm thinking I did until I play eat it, and I'm not feeling so good about it now. So I want to figure out what's going on. What is your relationship with singles, EPs, albums? Because it's a new land out there, it's a tension. Spans are different. Sorry what exactly, but it is getting that way right? Yeah? So how are you feeling these days about twelve fourteen track albums? Why are do you see you changing? How you're just you know, doing Keith Urban distribution of music. I I still like to think it comes down to quality, the quality of something because people go, oh, people want shorter, the shorter that, And I'm like, only because a lot of what's out there it's just not great. It's okay, it's not great, and it's not great because it's having to be churned out at such a fast right now, because it's content content, content content quick. You have it with your show, and you you're trying to maintain a level of excellence with this often unrealistic demand for the amount of it. You're trying to walk a line. How can I give you the best most exactly? That's exactly it? And I miss a lot because sometimes I do most and sometimes I do best, but I often don't get it right at the same time. And I think we're in this a lot in our society right now. The speed of everything and the and the demand for more and more and more and more quality takes time. Not always, but most of the time it takes. It takes a beat. Do you feel pressure from at this stage of your career labels managers like, hey, let's go, we need another something from you, or are you now, like guys, you'll get it when you get it. Yeah, I've never felt that. I've never felt I will say my record company Capital Record, So I've been with a long time. I've never ever felt anything but support for for what I do. They've never given me like dragging the record out of my hand, demanding this song with that song. Ever, they've been amazingly supportive. Do you need a teleprompter ever? For lyrics? You've got so many number one songs? Do you ever need a reminder of words? Do you have to refresh or are you just there? Yeah, refresh it if it's gonna be an old song. But it's I have a sick memory for lyrics of songs. It's crazy you bring up I I brought it up. But we talked about it with Ronnie Donn, who I've oddly become friends with and we're opposite in many ways, but we were. We were texting last night like that's he's there's a big picture when you walked into this guest house. He sent over to the house of like a bowl or something that was laying on the counter. But Ronnie has and I don't think you would care if I shared this. He has someone in his ear the whole time on a microphone side stage, telling him every lyric every song. He's had it for a long time. He's just like, I don't want to forget, and I don't have I don't have a good memory. So they're like out in the country, out in the country. I mean they're right in there. That's excellent. I mean voice of an angel, but holy crap, we can't remember word for the guy in the ear and it's and it's a yeah, very much so. But you have it all there for the most part. Boy, he'd want to be on good terms of that guy, wouldn't he. It's like, ron Ronnie, don't you run roun Burgundy? You could get Burgundy, san Diego real quick prompt there, Let's talk about the new single that I do want to get back to the tour. But the current single is wild Hearts. Let me play a little bit of this for you. I kind of have a relationship with every songwriter on this song, which is pretty cool. Eric Passley is a dear friend of mine. Um Jen Wayne Same she's in now, she's in a group herself away June. There. It is Brad Turcy from Old Dominion, how does this room come together? Or was it a room that came together? It didn't come together. I got sent this song as a finished song, two verses, chorus done, and uh. I got pitched the song from Roxy King and I heard it and I was like, mmmmm, I don't know. It's just I like the chorus don't really the rest of us not pulling me in. And so I passed on the song. And then about two weeks later, I woke up one morning singing this chorus in my head and I'm like, what is That's that wild Hurt Songs really special chorus. I listened to the song again and I went, man, that chorus is so freaking good. But the verses don't say anything to me. And so I called the writers and I said would I said it, would you mind if I rewrote the verses just to make it more personal because it's such a personal song. It's you know, following your dreams, and like, well what about what? You know? What was my dream journey from Australia to hear And they sent me the track without anything in the verses, and I just rewrote the verses. That's pretty cool. One day we go yes and I said to them. I said, I'm a writer, so I get this first of all, and I'm not one of these guys. It's going to be like I added the word the give me fift I've never been that guy. Um, And I said, you guys have written a top song. It's top to bottom. It's finished, right. If you can pitch it and someone wants to cut it as is, please do that. I'm not asking to dismantle your song if someone else wants to record it, but if you are okay and I can rewrite these verses and they come up the way I think they will, I'm definitely recording this song. And God bless him, they let me do that. The North American Tour The Speed of Now World War Two. Uh, the tickets are on so now Keith urban dot com, how long do you think you have another ten years of doing these really high energy shows in you? I don't even think about that. I mean just the next year, the next show. I mean, I'm injured. My my whole body is still injured from my nat g O show. Yeah bet so. Now I think about things in terms like could I do another three seasons of that show? And I can't? I now understand. I can't mash herrist, her shoulder heart Everything tour is not that show, but your tour. I'm telling you things that yours. You're mad man. Your tour is again, is the most energetic show I've ever seen from a superstar who doesn't have to be that energetic because he's already a superstar. And I mean that the most complimentary way. You could go out and just put on a solid show and be Keith Urban and people will be blown away, but you don't. Your hair is on fire for no other reason than you live that your art is your hair being on fire during a show. Yeah, yeah, well I only know one volume to get out there and play at there, isn't I mean, if it's real passion and the audience knows it, they're like, that's legit. That's a guy surfing on the wave of not thinking about it, but it's really happening and I can feel it. It's it's true. It's in the moment. Do you lose yourself in shows? Definitely? Yeah, it's it's a perfect balance of being completely present and completely lost in the moment all simultaneously. Do you ever, Sometimes I'll drive and I'll get somewhere I'll be like, holy crap, I don't know how I got here, Like subconscious has completely taken over. And then I feel unsafe and I'm like, you're telling me people are driving, and then I start thinking about other gets. You are doing what I did, not thinking and driving places. But does that ever happen in the show where you're three songs later and you're like, dear god, how does that even get here? No? No? I mean maybe no, not really, not even a moment. I was thinking about a moment and a song. Um no, because I don't know. I'm just super present, but I'm also thinking. I'm taking a multi multiprocessing right, which I think you do it extremely well on your show. You're listening to me, you're checking that out, you're thinking about other things, you're probably thinking about some other things you gotta do, and it's all multi processing all at once, and you totally here as well. I feel like I'm completely present, but I think I'm good at being present will while also delegating my mind to do other things. The same good way to put it, Yeah, what do you say on that microphone when you walk over that nobody hears? You know, the microphone. We're talking to it, all, right, do you have one of those? What do you? What do you When you walk back, it's four songs in and only your guys on stage you can hear you. Because for those that don't know some of my friends that have them, call them. We'll call it a b mike right to the word rich, Like we're talking to the rich Mike. If you're going to that microphone, what are you saying in the middle of a show? Why would it might be called that? But I have no idea, but that's what that's the only thing I know it has. Right, Oh, that's weird. I've never heard that expression. Oh you haven't. No, I never heard that. Well I don't say it, but that's crazy. So we stole it from Kenny Chesney when I was on two with him and I saw he had one, and I'm like, well, that's perfect because everyone's got in ears and you can actually talk to everyone. Are going to get out over the top. You're not at all not that, Mike. What do you say? Is it like, hey, guys, we're gonna switch songs or we're gonna play in a different or on my throat? Her? Like what it could be something to my guitar tech, could be something to the monitor guy, could be something to the band. It could be something to security. It could just be really like you see something out there. For sure, security has ears in and they can hear that. I know that it's gonna get to where it's going to get to. If maybe not directly, someone will really the message. But yeah, if I feel like there's just heavy handed security at a place, not letting people have fun or anything like that, make sure it gets taken care of. Definitely, of all the things that you do. As we wrap this up, one of my favorites is when you and I haven't seen it in a while because you haven't been on the road as normal. No one has right when you do those videos with the police escort behind you and you're like, thank you guys. Great, Like I love the blue light video at the end of the show. Rights so much so that there have been a couple of times where, you know, we did a we've done a couple of shows. We did a festival and I throw a festival in Texas and we had like four or five thousand people and we had to get out and I was like, hey, I'm gonna get that blue light like either, because I gotta get that shot. So you're inspiring me in ways you had no idea. It's much better having in front of you than behind you. Let me tell you, I would agree with. I've spent way more years with the opposite. So this is nice, Mike. Anything that I have missed that we need to address with Keith before he leaves, I think that's everything. It's a daylight savings time just about so it's getting darker now and so it feels like it's midnight. A little tired, kind of run through it here. Anything you'd like to say, Read, you're a massive Keith fan. Read is my video guy. He's been looking for He's been looking forward to this whole life. So Read, this is your one shot with Keith. Is there anything take a deep breath, all right that you'd like to ask Keith? Alright, Keith, I don't know. All I'm thinking about is uh. When I first started learning guitar, my dad got me your Golden Road DVD that had all the music videos on it, and I would stand in front of the TV and I'll try to mimic and try to learn learn the songs and it was god awful. But I remember that moment. And then I got the pleasure of going to your show. I think it was in Dallas like three no, maybe like two years ago, and my girlfriend got me the tickets and and of course you're out in the crowd running around and you came up to us, and I can just remember my my girlfriend just going Keith, Keith. But that was probably me actually, but yeah, so those are just the moments that came up to me. But I was a huge fan. Man, Thank you so much. How's the plan coming along? Oh it's it's good. Yeah, you're still playing, yeah, sir. Yeah, I love songwriting. Uh. I don't do a lot of playing shows or anything, but um I love to produce my own music as well and and and write songs. So right, yes sir, Yeah, there we have an emotional emotional moment here. Yeah, I'll mention this before you go to I as we were walking out of our wedding, we played God Whispered your Name. The writers or one of the writers saw me out. I was getting some ice cream with Caitlin and he was like, you guys played go when God whispered your name at your wedding? And I was like, first time I keeps sing that song, I was like, that's it, Like I felt that's that's one of those rare songs in my life where I was like because when I heard it the first time, I thought, if I can ever have this in my life, that's it. And then when I met my wife, now, I went, this is that song like it was the songwriting, it was the delivery, it was the texture, all of those things together in that song. I remember thinking, man, if I ever find this because I heard a song before I knew her, but when I met her and I was like, oh, this is when God whispered your name. Wow. And it's one of those few moments where a song is you're super romantic, punches you in the gut. Yeah, okay, maybe you got you got married and you love that kind of song and yeah yeah, Dan and Should played yes and they The funny part about that was my wife and Abby Smires are really close friends. Dan and I have been buddies for a long time, and I was like, hey, look you get because they're like, whatever you want, we'll play. Like Dan was like, well you didn't even ask us, Like we'll play whatever you want and I think they expected us to pick one of their songs because they have a hundred love songs the best, but I didn't. I picked the Beach Boys song, pick Forever I don't know, and everyone I said, make you laugh, I talk forever Um. Dennis Wilson wrote it. I didn't know that song. Jesse and the Rippers later did it on Full House. Dennis Wilson wrote it and the drummer well, and they crushed it and for and they did, so they put it on they give us the file. They recorded it as well as a wedding gift ties and gave it to us. It was awesome, amazing, And what was cool was even Ronnie was like, hey, you don't want anything for your wedding, Like I can't get you anything. What do you mean to sing? And I was like, that's the greatest gift ever. So He's saying, neon Moon, it was awesome. Goodness is awesome. How did he remember the words? I worried too. I said, do we need to get that mike for you over on the side. We didn't. He knew the words though, at the still phone of his ear the whole time. All right, get tickets are on sale today Keith Urban, The Speed of Now World Towar two. They're up, go see him. This podcast. This show has heard in all kinds of countries, so obviously North America, but all over the world. UM, I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you do it. Maintain as you. I love what I do. I love what I get to do. And truly it's a game. You know. People go, oh, it's a gift if you do it, really is. And I'll finish with this because I think it's what is. What it's all about is I went born with the addictive gene. I went to three rehabs in the span of three years, in the span of eight years, the first three, second one was two thousand and three, and my third one was two thousand and six. And it took what it took for me to finally get sober um. And that journey brought the deepest, deepest level of gratitude for what I get to do that I don't know if I ever would have gotten that gratitude level without that journey. I think when you come close to losing all of that and then it gets given back to you through grace, in my case, getting back to me, I was like, I'm never going to take this for granted ever Again. Does it make you a more giving person going through because for me, I have found that growing up a poverty kid and someone who's been through those struggles with addiction secondary that affects me and how I treat other people. Do you think you were two different people before and after your final run, your your final time and rehab? Very much? Yeah, and yes, I separate the person from the addiction. You are known as one of the nicer guys in town, just generally by people like Keith urban Is the nicest guy. Were you known early in your career? Is that guy? Were you always just completely dialed into the human aspect of people, because now you are and you're known for that. I like people and I like collaborating. I love Yeah, I love people. I've always loved people. You've always been a nice guy. I've always I think I've always been um bridge builder. I'm a ridge builder. I'm an entertainer. You know. I think I was the that was the it was the peace person. You know, if you have an identity in your home, I was the bridge building between my brother and my father, always trying to kill each other. I was like, interesting, I'm gonna I'm gonna be the one that keeps the peace here. And I think I've carried that into my life. All Right, Go to a show, listen to the music. Keith Urban, Thank you always good to talk. Good to talk to you too. There he is Keith Urban. Everybody, It's awesome.