Episode 313 | We Cry Together

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Speaker 1: No Willie and.

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Speaker 2: I can't even buy a home in private home and babies got my brother's gone.

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Speaker 3: You know who sent me car's dripping by.

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Speaker 4: I think my neighbors want to be dead.

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Speaker 5: I got a canon underneath the bed, triple checking if I locked the door on the weather cre that's in the floor.

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Speaker 3: Motherfucker. I'm par noise around the block.

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Speaker 2: Eyes glued to the review rather double back than regret hearing.

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Speaker 3: Never trust the bitch. If you good, they could trap you.

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Speaker 2: Suit just strap it up, Fuck around and strap you.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it food?

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Speaker 3: Come back?

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Speaker 6: Gone up?

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Speaker 5: M m.

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Speaker 4: M mmmmmmmmm mmmm mmm. In that tune, charge that's what.

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Speaker 3: And we are back.

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Speaker 4: We are w NBA champions Man, we are back New York. We are back.

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Speaker 3: The only championships New York.

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Speaker 5: The only championship New York can celebrate is the Women's basketball New York Liberty winning it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

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Speaker 4: I went to the Giants game on Sunday where they got clapped, and I was happy Sakwan got his revenge because I do funk with Saquon a lot. But as me and Kaz were leaving early, I was just screaming, at least we have the liberty, the.

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Speaker 7: Liberty, the liberty. They're the queens of New York.

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Speaker 3: Man, why not us brought my rally towel dub all, we got all, we need facts about it? Why not us? Why not hopefully that the Mets couldn't get behind that rally cry they got.

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Speaker 4: But I did wear a Subway Seriy shirt just in remembrance, you know what could have been of.

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Speaker 7: What could have been? Yeah, I knew the mess wasn't gonna handle businessmen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was kind of hopeful for a Subway series.

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Speaker 7: I mean I wanted it, but I knew it wasn't gonna happen. I went to the game on the Dodgers. They got too much over there. Man.

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Speaker 4: I was hoping that it would also bring World Series tickets down. This could just be a stupid thought, but I was like, all right, if both teams are in New York, maybe like that would lower because there's more games for New Yorkers to go to.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think that taxes because there's only so.

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Speaker 4: Many home games for the Yankees. The others are going to be in LA, so the tickets would be higher because there's less games. If all the games are in New York then New Yorkers like maybe will go down.

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Speaker 5: I like that your brain kind of like was that hopeful that? Yeah, but that's not how it works though. It would be double taxes. We got to pay double taxes.

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Speaker 3: If it was all of a sudden, the train fair would be like forty dollars to go to the Bronx two stops.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, and we won't we won't stay too local. But do we think that Eric Adams will be front row of the way Julian used to be at all the World Series games, like he was behind the catcher.

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Speaker 5: He would see front and julianni, Well, he'll be closer to the stadiums. A courthouse, right, a beautiful courtouse, but a lot of steff. Beautiful courthouse if you if you ever seen the movie Schaft, Oh yeah, that is same courthouse.

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Speaker 7: That's the courthouse every Adams.

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Speaker 3: You guys see his recent uh he came out and gave a recent address and he wore this hat.

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Speaker 4: What did he address? I don't care about that hat? What is my tax dollars?

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Speaker 3: What did he have to say? Nothing?

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Speaker 4: That he's throwing the liberty a parade. God, they're gonna go around City Hall before we go. There's another prison over there too.

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Speaker 5: Before we go any further, I do want to send prayers to uh DJ Clark Camp. Yes, absolutely, you know, continue prayers and strength and to him and his family. Uh send as many prayers up as possible for our legendary brother, one of the icons of our culture, J Clark Kent.

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Speaker 4: Love you Clark. And definitely prayers to his family as well, because I know they're going through this with him and fun everyone on the internet that tries to be first with stuff like confirm things like death please, because my heart dropped. I think that was what Wednesday. Yeah, we don't even need to get into it. Just you guys are weird. I'll just put it that way and we can get to some, you know, some happier stuff. We're fresh from the six Well, I left pretty early. I think you landed this morning. No, I'm from Toronto Saturday, Okay.

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Speaker 7: I got back sat. I got in Saturday Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: We can get into the show because it was one of my favorites. But Friday morning in the group chat, call mall like, yeah, you want to split a new berdy. He's like, I think I think mis stay for a few more days.

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Speaker 7: M another day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought that would roll into like, well, I'm already here Saturday, might as well stay Sunday and then take the Monday morning flight because it's only like thirty minutes.

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Speaker 7: Nah, I got out of it. I got out it left Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Man, did you guys leave the boy in Toronto?

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Speaker 4: I did not see the boy.

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Speaker 3: No owl the boy?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah he was, he was.

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Speaker 3: You left him up there.

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Speaker 7: One of those trees.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 4: He flew down south for the winter.

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Speaker 7: He's in one of those trees up there somewhere. Man.

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Speaker 5: If everybody came out to the Toronto show, had a great time man, great crowd, great energy.

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Speaker 3: And shout out to our guys.

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Speaker 4: Snow Day. Shout out to snow Day Scarborough legend. He we did a walk out to Waguan Delilah, which was hilarious.

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Speaker 3: I think the great ridiculous, the greatest. It was so ridiculous. I was.

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Speaker 4: I was really jealous when I went to go see Gillian Wallow when they were at Sony Hall, because they came out with freeway and I was like, damn, that's hard. Everywhere feel like so yeah, I feel like we kind of matched it. With snow Day in Toronto. Yeah, it wasn't quite what we do, but Waguan Delilah, I think really represents the town.

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Speaker 7: I represented very well.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Snowday, Shout out to all the guys that came out show love. There was some ladies in the building too in Toronto, definitely some some ladies in the building. Think you told the ladies that came out, had great words of encouragement, showed a lot of love.

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Speaker 4: After the show, Yeah, do Youulian remember that couple that got engaged on stage?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Last Yeah, they got married and they were at the show. Yes, really nice. He was correct, he just needed a little bit more time, a little more time this time. But we brought them on stage and didn't even try to like break any one up, just celebrated love.

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Speaker 5: No we can't, there's no breaking them up. Like she knows how to cook like African dishes. Now, like she's a white girl, right, Yeah, she's a lifer. Yeah, she's not going nowhere, No, she's she's been brought in by her what was it, Nigerian and loss.

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Speaker 7: That was funny.

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Speaker 4: I could tell that they hate her, but very sweet couple. But it was just It was just an overall really fun show.

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Speaker 7: Had a great time, Man had a great time. Toronto was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Man. You went out after the show to get food.

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Speaker 4: I went back to Apartment two hundred to see if I could relive the feeling from last trip.

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Speaker 7: You had to go stamp your flag again.

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Speaker 4: I didn't quite do it the way Julian impeaged it. They went like three or four times last time we were here.

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Speaker 3: I only went once.

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Speaker 4: It was a great crowd, but I lasted I don't know, maybe thirty minutes. It was almost closing time anyways, but it was gonna beat.

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Speaker 3: You there, but I was I had to eat, man, I went to eat.

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Speaker 7: I was fucking hungry. Yeah, I was on stage thinking about whatever. That's how it eat. Since like twelve thirty they got vegan poutine. Yeah, what is it? Vegan cheese and gravy.

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Speaker 3: But gravy has there's vegan gravy. What is that gravy?

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Speaker 7: What is gravy flouring?

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Speaker 3: Fucking yeah, gravy is not the meat and gravy. Gravy isn't vegans, even the ones they don't carry, and it's not vegan.

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Speaker 7: What isn't gravy?

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Speaker 1: How do you cook butter?

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Speaker 7: It's vegan butter.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: I thought there was some some type of meat.

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Speaker 3: No, but you can put you.

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Speaker 4: Can put on meat, No, you could put so.

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Speaker 1: Gravy is usually made with the drippings that you cook, but obviously vegans wouldn't use that.

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Speaker 7: That's grease and ship too though you don't want that.

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Speaker 4: Well, how was the vegan poon tine? Your sister said that to me, and I thought it.

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Speaker 7: Was a joke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stopping the in on the pool.

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Speaker 3: Pooh Poo's saying that.

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Speaker 1: He's called it poon teem like he make it horny.

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Speaker 7: Like the horny irishman sitting over here.

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Speaker 4: I got no poon tine out there, which unfortunate you making no vegan poo, no human poon team, no animal poon team, nothing whatsoever. I had two visible two glasses of wine and an apartment two hundred is as freaky as I got.

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Speaker 7: Drinking wine and apartment two hundred is hilarious, that's sick.

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Speaker 4: They brought me a whole bottle like in the thing. I was like, I mean, does anyone wanted any section at apartment? I didn't ask for one day.

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Speaker 3: They brought me out there. He had a bed at apartment to wait. Did you guys know it was more of a booth you know what?

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Speaker 4: It was a section Okay, and I felt good about it. I may have stood up at one point get toast. Yeah, yeah, definitely dug dug my sneakers into that couch.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's what.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys know they have a Tim Hortons at JFK.

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Speaker 4: You no, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: I was gone. I landed there. I was gone for a night this week, and I came back and I saw Tim Hortons. As I was leaving. I was like, that doesn't feel right. You had another night because it's not a get out of here, put a dunkin Donuts. There's America, there's.

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Speaker 5: The airport, and your flight is leaving from the gate. That is like, there's nothing near your gate. That's usually what happens though to me for some reason, like so there's no Hudson News, no dumb nothing.

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Speaker 4: That's no nothing next to this gate, Nope, or the one at JFK. Well, I was really a local New York episode so far. I hate that terminal at JFK where the only thing that's open in the morning is shake shack, Like you want to start with indigestion. You want me to shit on this flight? The only thing open is Shakeshack at six o'clock and stop there every time. It's either that or the Starbucks line that's around the corner. Yeah, it's like, all right, I'll get some cheese fries at six am. This is get on a flight to La just another restaurant. No, it's in LaGuardia. That's really nice. I forgot the name of it. But every time I go to try to stop there if I have enough time. Well, the Guardier Leaguaday did a great job that renovation.

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Speaker 5: It looks like it's LaGuardia used to be like one of the worst airports in the in the country.

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Speaker 7: Now it's like one of my favorites.

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Speaker 4: Not not to make this a Trump thing whatsoever, but do you remember like his first policy when he started running in whatever twenty to fifteen, he was going to change LaGuardia. That was like his first policy.

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Speaker 3: It was that bad.

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Speaker 4: He said, it's the worst, It's the worst worst airport, LaGuardia.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 5: But nat they did a great even, like getting an uber from the Guadia is a lot easier now.

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Speaker 3: Oh I too, I took that Uber shuttle for the first time. How was it the the cheapest to and from I've ever done? So the Uber shuttle, it's not just New York, or it might be we'll stay local. Fuck it, it's uh. They have pickup points, so it's like either port authority or Penn station. I went to the Penn station one. Make you reserve a time eight dollars.

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Speaker 7: That's all you can. Airport to the airport, so I traffic you go from.

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Speaker 3: I got to the airport in my flight was at like eleven, so I was I got there in like twenty minutes and there's no stops. It's like everyone's here, and there was me two other girls. It's big ass Mercedes, like you know, the sprinter right to the airport. Dropped me off right outside the The gate was perfect. I was going to do that on the eight eight eight eight.

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Speaker 4: I was going to do that to Toronto on I'm sorry I won in Toronto. I keep putting the extracy Toronto. I was going to do that, but I had two merch bags with me and I was sad I couldn't try that because I think that's the greatest I'm sure it's gonna be in other cities.

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Speaker 7: I love that, absolutely, they gotta that's that.

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Speaker 5: This is just like the the test phase used to see how it does in one of the worst traffic cities in the world. But at Toronto's traffic though Toronto has some crazy it's bad traffic for sure.

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Speaker 3: That ship at one o'clock. I'm like, where's everybody going at one pm? Where's everybody going?

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Speaker 7: Right now?

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Speaker 3: On a weekday, on a weekday.

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Speaker 5: Didn't understand why the traffic was like that, but it was told that Toronto definitely has some of the worst traffic.

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Speaker 4: Last year it sucked. He was like an hour and a half, it's crazy. Yeah, well, we shout to our guys that that set us up with a sprinter. We get you know, finally when we get a sprinter for free in a city, it's when the venue is literally across the street. Like I was hype, shouts to my man Kareem Is his cousin was the one that owned the sprinter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hype.

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Speaker 4: I text them all like she locked us in free sprinter, like trying to stunt.

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Speaker 5: Like I was like, ships across the streetet five minutes away. Cool, I walk over there, got a sprinted to drive five minutes.

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Speaker 7: That's what's up?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I got in there they were playing acon I was in.

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Speaker 3: I was in my mood.

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Speaker 7: I forgot what they was playing when I was in, But it was cold as fuck.

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Speaker 5: It was definitely breaking there. I don't understand you. Even the hotel room was like the heat wasn't working. It wasn't working right, PJA, he wasn't working either, right. I had it on eighty three and I swear I woke up and the bed was cold and it was the w right, yeah, like it's the wat work was really nice. But I don't understand what that heat was doing. I don't know if people in Toronto don't turn on heat until Halloween.

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Speaker 1: But none of y'all complained. That's my favorite thing to do is complain. I didn't complain to anybody.

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Speaker 5: What you're gonna complain and says, put a hood on. I had it all the way on eighty three and it felt like it was maybe sixty nine, and that.

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Speaker 1: Means the maintenance man needed to come and do what he needed to do.

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Speaker 5: But if everybody wasn't working, it wasn't just my room. That's like a build fixed the whole, like the whole the hotel is not that doesn't have any heat right now.

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Speaker 3: So this peech told me that.

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Speaker 7: I was like, okay, so it's not just my room.

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Speaker 4: They also had a shamp vending machine, which I had never seen in my entire life.

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Speaker 3: At the w how much for a bottle? I didn't even look.

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Speaker 5: It was like Denzel and movie flightross the street.

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Speaker 4: Call time. I just fall out of the room with a bloody forehead.

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Speaker 5: Go downstairs. The whole moette vendor sheet is empty. Crazy, I'm drunk right now. Underrated movie.

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Speaker 4: I love Flight. Oh God, I just think it's hilarious. They actually have it available on planes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to.

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Speaker 4: So who's watching flight on a flight?

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Speaker 7: I would I did one time.

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Speaker 4: I would never want to look over at the person next to me and they watching a plane invertage?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, be thankful.

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Speaker 4: How many times do you think you've had a pilot that may have been either hungover or drunk or had cocaine in the system.

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Speaker 7: Oh probably every time, one out of three flights.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. So.

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Speaker 5: You see them when they come back from when they go to the restaurants in the airport, they walk back.

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Speaker 3: You gotta look at them.

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Speaker 7: You just had a shot.

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Speaker 4: And I have a homegirl as a flight attendant and she tells me the stories. Yeah, those flight attendants and pilots get freaky in Cleveland's and then move on to the next city. Eveland got their crew for real, nasty horny crew up in those skies. Well anyways, again, can't say enough about the Toronto show. Thank you to everyone that came out Atlanta. We will be there November twenty seconds, Yes, sir, tickets available now. Excited for Atlanta, of course? Yeah, man, of course. I wish we could have stayed in Toronto a little longer, but you know, I had to go be a family man. Most uneventful Toronto trip I felt like I did the city of disservice.

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Speaker 5: I finally went to the museum in Toronto Durom. It was like literally three blocks in my hotel. Yeah, I went there.

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Speaker 7: I was so high, I didn't remember what the fuck I saw and I gotta start.

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Speaker 4: Could you go alone? Yeah, going hot a museum alone.

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Speaker 7: I woke up, I got some I got I got a latte, sound like a housewife.

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Speaker 4: I woke up, got a Lotte, opened a bottle of chartene.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I smoked on the walk there and just walking around looking. I was like, oh, then I met my boy for for lunch at like two o'clock. So I was there for like forty minutes, but I don't.

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Speaker 7: Remember what I saw.

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Speaker 5: It didn't take a single picture of anything. My friend was like, so you went to the museum and didn't take a picture of nothing. I was like, nah, yeah, just high man, just high looking around.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 7: People was like, who the fuck is this dude? Just high?

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Speaker 4: Did you talk to anyone the person that worked in you're a private tour roil? You were high?

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Speaker 5: No, I was just walking around looking at shit. I was like, Okay, it's pretty cool. The building is okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just look at you. Okay, see what this artist was doing. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The pod crew was kind of split this this past week. I feel like we were technically with ovoh. I guess you could say, I think snow Days is part of the crew sort of and Julian and Julian was with Dreamville.

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Speaker 3: I returned back to my roots. He was with the Dreamers. Yeah. I went all the way down to Raleigh. Oh Man had to go to North Carolina, right back to the city crime. You had to get you had to go with it. I'm telling you energy, the energy getting dream the energy getting off that flight was the genesis right there. The energy getting off that off that flight was not as fun as it was the first time when I went down there for Dreams. Did you go to the sensible grounds? Did you go to the festival? Guy stayed clear of Dorothy Hill Park wherever the is?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 4: Uh No, you definitely went like the same way, Julie. You and I went to the jfk uh scene when we were in Dallas. I know you went to the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 3: Put just to see like what it looked like, some flowers where the stage was. That's the grassy.

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Speaker 4: Uh Wayna was on the grassy.

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Speaker 3: No, uh no, I it was fun. It was a good time, but there was like mosstop laughing. It felt different. Julian would go to the exact location. I didn't go there for ship Cold laid.

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Speaker 4: His sword down like intet a silent prayer to himself.

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Speaker 3: Did you see an idiot the Dreamville guys? Yeah, so Jungle.

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Speaker 4: I just went to.

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Speaker 3: You really thought it just want to run. I'm asking you know what, I don't know anyone down there. No I Yeah, Jungle the amazing group. Check out their music if you're not familiar, They're incredible. They're they're doing a huge They did long US tour and Boz was their opener for their their tour. They have a great relationship with Boz. They have three records together. He was the first featured artist on their one of their albums, like He's Just They have a really cool relationship.

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Speaker 5: Boss is probably the only guy from Dreams still, Folks, and even Boss might it might be shaky with Boss.

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Speaker 3: It might be a site when Boss went. So anyway, went the show. It was at a It was at an amphitheater. It was very nice venue. He was there. A few of the guys were there too, because some of them, you know, are in town. They're recording whatever. And then we went out to a hookahspot, smoked for like you know, till three am, and then went home, got a flight. I cannot see. This is the thing when you have conversations with your friends and you don't repeat what they were, especially to public people. I'm not saying at all what we spoke about in the hook a lounge. It was a very good, productive conversation. I'm happy I went. It was no like fuck this and we we hate that. It's none of that was none of that, But it was really really the one thing that we talked about I thought was cool. I continue the conversation that we had here on the pod about I was like, I was talking to Eve and I was like, hey, like, you know Cole's I'm noticing he also, you know, is putting out records on his own terms, like not on the DSP route. And we had a really cool conversation about like their strategy behind that and comparing it to like the other the other guys that are you know, doing so as well. But it was cool, Like it's just nice to hear where they're at.

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Speaker 4: Can you get permission from them to have that combo? Because I'm very interested. I don't care about the beef, none of that. I care about their strategy of why everyone out of the Big three is putting out music.

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Speaker 3: Not on DSP.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you could send that text and be like, hey, are you cool if we have that combo?

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we have at the.

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Speaker 4: End of this week, because I'm very curious what you and them I have to say about that. No gossipy ship, that's that's information ship. Yeah, no, Kendrick, we'll get to that. Said, no, Kendrick, that's his favorite thing. What information you didn't see? You didn't even read that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't finish it, all right, anyway, great, definitely, dream bill, I'm reading it. It was a great night. And then I came back here, went to the Mats game the next night, watching me at clapped.

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so you had a good weekend, baby, did what you do? Uh, that's silky, That silky pony is working. Yeah, thank you, that silky pony girl.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you.

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Speaker 7: Still it's still how many days?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know that is three. We're in the hundreds. We're way in the hundreds. We damn near two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't gonna live. We scrolled back the shows.

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Speaker 4: I would have to say we were when it was ninety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't guy up.

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Speaker 1: That was like a month ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that two hundred. I didn't know there was one hundred and ten days in a month.

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Speaker 1: It's been since May. I lost kind of I'm not counting. The more it depresses me.

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Speaker 5: Okay, roads putting that roads to work. That was like, if you come to this drawl one more time.

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Speaker 1: I promise you. It's a face opportunity. I promise you.

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Speaker 3: I'm just all right.

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Speaker 5: Let's show you how I'm bad, my bad. But would you do this weekend?

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Speaker 4: Babies, let's start to sigh when here's that drawer. I can't.

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Speaker 3: It's like Palo dog.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm beating off when I'm single. You meeting off in a relationship.

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Speaker 3: That's you went out after apartment two hundred.

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Speaker 5: I've made peace with your works, your words get even two hundreds.

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Speaker 4: I took mental notes.

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Speaker 3: Clock the bat. That is hilarious. But baby, I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I I did nothing out outside Highlight. I went to work, I went to.

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Speaker 3: Bottle Wars and bottle war.

00:21:05
Speaker 4: You'll say you did nothing, Oh I forgot I went to bottle Wars. You are outside outside which bottle wars.

00:21:12
Speaker 1: So it's a party where the men and women are in competition for who can buy the most bottles, and then you get points for every bottle.

00:21:21
Speaker 3: So is that I'm sure it's a great event, But the concept is just blowing money on.

00:21:27
Speaker 1: The bottle girls.

00:21:28
Speaker 3: So how much point the bottles? You can just count the bottles.

00:21:31
Speaker 4: That's like legitimately a racket. And also that's getting men to pay double what they actually do because I know they have to buy their opponent's bottles as well.

00:21:39
Speaker 1: Why do you think every party I've ever been to women spend so much money on alcohol? Like, I don't know what kind of girls you.

00:21:45
Speaker 3: Be around, but women be buying the ones.

00:21:48
Speaker 1: Money like women be I mean, women be buying bottles in my head and beat a big bottles with their own money. I'll be in part. Okay, well you should hang around bitches who are engineers, doctors, lawyers, nurses find it in tech? Yeah, they were in traffic, they're not on the Lower East Side on a Wednesday night, fucking blottle.

00:22:09
Speaker 4: You're you're really judging for someone that went to a party named bottle Wars.

00:22:13
Speaker 3: Wars Like theamaras over there with a notepad and the tally Like, all right, that'skay, the red team's got ten bottles.

00:22:20
Speaker 4: How do we extort all the patrons that came into it?

00:22:22
Speaker 3: Wait? So, how is there a time limit or what's the deal?

00:22:25
Speaker 1: Like, no, it's just the whole entire party. They just go and then like the more expensive the bottle, the more points you get.

00:22:30
Speaker 4: So, but is it like a middle school dance where it's women on one side, men on the other.

00:22:34
Speaker 1: No, they're all over. It's just a regular party. But they just keep they keep the they put the tally up on the screen.

00:22:39
Speaker 5: Oh so you get like frequent fly bottles, Like the more bottles I bowed. The next time I come, maybe I get one on the house.

00:22:44
Speaker 1: Yeah no, baby, no no.

00:22:46
Speaker 4: It's like when you goes drunk.

00:22:47
Speaker 7: Now when you leave, come back and do it all over again.

00:22:49
Speaker 4: There was no rollover minute, a punch the car, like when you get a coffee, like five more of these and you get a freak cup.

00:22:54
Speaker 3: This concept of this, to me is loser. That's not it, but I get it. But like just the concept of like the whole thing to me is just a dick measuring contest. Like I can buy more bottles than you. Like, what's the goal? You just go home five grand broker.

00:23:08
Speaker 4: The only winner here is the venue.

00:23:09
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like, you're not winning. It's like the It's like what we said about the girl that I had sex while I was pregnant. It's like, yeah, got them back, but at what costs? Like that's dumb? Should got a bottle? Should y'all do know?

00:23:22
Speaker 1: That people go to parties and just buy bottles anyway. Right, So if you're gonna buy the bottles anyway, I don't have.

00:23:27
Speaker 4: The incentive of competition at that, thank you. Like that's gonna buy a cube theme for the party.

00:23:33
Speaker 3: It's not.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: People are not actually going to like yo, I'm really trying to win. No one's doing that. People are gonna buy the bottles. They were gonna buy it anyway.

00:23:38
Speaker 3: But when you're down ten grand, it's not like it's it's not a cute theme. It costs a lot of money.

00:23:44
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all not bottle poppers. And that's okay.

00:23:46
Speaker 3: I'm not okay, And that's okay. You're not for audience.

00:23:51
Speaker 5: It's family invented it. So yeah, I retired a long time ago from that type of life stuff.

00:23:57
Speaker 3: I do some Fiji mmmm with the sparkling that's like ten dollars in the club.

00:24:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll dream more Ffiji than any nigga in the club.

00:24:06
Speaker 3: I know that for a fact.

00:24:08
Speaker 7: Ki, no nigga drink more water in the club than me, that's for sure.

00:24:11
Speaker 3: Okay.

00:24:11
Speaker 4: So once a bottle wars like wants to evolve and you know, expand like hookah, wars. What's the next thing here in real estate? Chicken chicken tender platters?

00:24:23
Speaker 5: Those are great in the club by the block baby who can order the most sampler mozzarella sticks?

00:24:29
Speaker 3: Mozzarella wars? But you know how nasty hookah wars would be.

00:24:35
Speaker 1: I'm about to quit Hookah. You smoke not a lot, not heavily, but yeah I smoke it like when I'm in the club, which is what once every three months, m or like I'll go to I used to go to Sahara. Even that I've cut down, I'm just I I feel the cancer just like growing in my lungs, and I'm.

00:24:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, who could I could start to feel like my skin drying out with every pole, Like I felt like my face was getting older as I was, And I was like, this is a bad habit. But I'm full of shit because even though I don't smoke Cuoka often whatsoever. You know, Justice was in town and he is the face of hookah. Yeah, so every now and then I'll age myself a bit and do it. But it's a disgusting of it.

00:25:15
Speaker 7: How was Justice? How are you doing?

00:25:17
Speaker 3: Just great?

00:25:17
Speaker 6: Yeah?

00:25:18
Speaker 4: They were here on some LBR in business, but he's in good spirits.

00:25:21
Speaker 1: The VR and crew good to see him in good spirits. Some are about to drop another album. He about to buy out of the house. He's in great spirits.

00:25:29
Speaker 4: It's weird the whole crew is always remodeling their houses. It just never stops adding another wing, every single ep, every album, every track.

00:25:40
Speaker 3: Uh well, now that we're done with the weekend recap, we start with some mass that I found hilarious over the weekend that I think I kind of swept under the rug. Martha Stewart might be the most badass person just ever toost, she might just be the coolest white woman ever. I guess it's kind of what I'm saying. So Netflix is putting out this thing called Martha. It's about her life, her story, and how she came to be the person that she is. And in the trailer for the doc, they were talking about how her and her husband eventually split up because he was caught cheating on her, and then this was her comments about your husband cheating And then listen to her response and listen to my advice.

00:26:19
Speaker 1: You're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of shit. Get out of that marriage.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: Didn't you have an affair early on yet.

00:26:26
Speaker 4: But I don't think Andy ever knew about.

00:26:28
Speaker 7: That gangs period.

00:26:32
Speaker 3: But I guess it down to she's a gangster. I guess she said too. It was more that was revealed that she had an affair that spanned like over thirty years, and.

00:26:41
Speaker 4: That's a marriage and another family.

00:26:43
Speaker 3: Her husband didn't know until the trailer for this doc came out.

00:26:49
Speaker 7: Good, I mean, she didn't. She was.

00:26:50
Speaker 3: She was, she's like, she's crazy.

00:26:53
Speaker 5: She kept it clean, It wasn't MESSI didn't. Her husband never found out. Nobody knew she she she cheat.

00:26:59
Speaker 4: Right, so okay, But like whatever their stipulations were with their marriage, isn't there like clauses if you cheat, like you don't get half of the money or whatever. I'm curious what their divorce was like if he lost more because of the infidelities that he was caught with. Meanwhile, she's across the table and the mediator doesn't even know she's been fucking someone for thirty years.

00:27:20
Speaker 7: I mean she didn't.

00:27:21
Speaker 3: They didn't, like, we need to go back and look at this divorce paperworker.

00:27:24
Speaker 7: They didn't know.

00:27:25
Speaker 1: Well, I do want to clarify, where did she come out and say that it was for thirty years, because I'm looking for that.

00:27:29
Speaker 3: I'm not finding that, not with the same person over thirty years. But she was having me no extra marital affairs over the course of their over the course of their thirty twenty they were made for twenty ninety.

00:27:40
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that would make it clear. I don't want it to make it like she had a side nigga for thirty years. That's coat.

00:27:45
Speaker 3: Now it's probably multiple.

00:27:47
Speaker 4: You think it was snoop.

00:27:49
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they because the same way in which you know, like Chelsea Handler went on like her little leg thing with fifty cent and like I feel like women like that always go for the rap guy, like you know what I mean.

00:28:00
Speaker 4: Always thought that was a troll until I found out it was real, and I was like kind of weirded out.

00:28:03
Speaker 3: The way in which Bill Mayer only fucks like black hookers Kalise and Bill Murray. Yeah, like there's there's a weird synchronization between like Murray those people.

00:28:13
Speaker 4: Bill maherins superhead Like that was crazy. I mean that to me, that was my like goal couple. That was a power couple to me. I agree to award winning authors.

00:28:25
Speaker 1: But let's not put that on stood Snoop dog's jacket because he's been happily and faithfully married. He got See why are you bringing up black men's past.

00:28:33
Speaker 3: That's what white men do.

00:28:35
Speaker 4: He got he got caught fucking Slena Powell. I'm sure he fucked Martha Stewart.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: Nice, cool, nice. I don't know obviously to be lying, so my bad Snoop line. But before we recorded, I was having this conversation with the maris what do you think, like, Okay, your husband gets caught. Yes he's a bad guy, but you're no better. But is there a difference if you never get caught like she kept the marriage and tag twenty nine you they did the whole thing. Do we judge her differently? Is it worse? Is it better? What do you guys think the person that cheats but never gets caught.

00:29:10
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's respectable in a way. Because you're cheating, that's fucked up. But I think you respect your spouse enough for nobody to know about it. It never got out, so I mean, yeah, it's some type of it's some type of respect there when your spouse has no idea.

00:29:28
Speaker 4: Okay, but also in the same sentence, she's saying, if your husband cheats on you, he's a piece of ship and you need to leave.

00:29:36
Speaker 1: That's not what she said.

00:29:37
Speaker 4: You're not holding yourself to the exact same standard she said. If your husband gets caught cheating, you need to leave. See this is the Wow, women gonna play some marriages what Martha said. Let's about what she said. Let's go further.

00:29:54
Speaker 3: Let's that's that's not what she said. Here's the quote, Young women, listen to my advice. If you're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, he's a piece of ship. Get out of that marriage.

00:30:04
Speaker 1: Play what we just played? Because she play what we just played out?

00:30:07
Speaker 3: The New York Post mis quotes someone play what we just played? All right, here we go again. Are they, young woman, listen to my advice.

00:30:16
Speaker 1: You're married and your husband starts to cheat on you, a piece of ship?

00:30:25
Speaker 4: I apologize?

00:30:27
Speaker 5: Was almost women gonna say my bad. They won't never say I'm sorry, I'll apologie.

00:30:31
Speaker 1: I'll I'm not sorry for what I said, because I genuinely believe that that's what she said. But it is my bad.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: I was wrong. So do you what do you believe what you said then, because your initial one, what was the oh that if he got caught.

00:30:42
Speaker 1: No, I was just differentiating between the two. I don't think anybody should cheat.

00:30:45
Speaker 4: Okay, we didn't see the rest of where that's going. I'll give the woman better for the doubt. Maybe she's going on to say she started cheating when she found out her husband was cheating, and she's telling young women you should just leave when he cheats, don't cheat back and try to make it work.

00:31:03
Speaker 7: Just leave.

00:31:04
Speaker 4: M Maybe I just I mean, I like Martha Stewart.

00:31:08
Speaker 3: But I was gonna say that I don't. I don't. I don't know. The problem is they were married for nearly thirty years and her husband cheated on her with her form. Oh ww, it's pretty bad her husband she on her with her former assistant. Mmm.

00:31:23
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you gotta cheat back.

00:31:25
Speaker 3: But I feel like Martha Martha was doing her bidding because even in the clips, she said she started the marriage cheating, so she was like, she got out the gate with it. He was playing ketchup, but he cheated with the wrong one.

00:31:36
Speaker 4: Maybe they shouldn't got to it. It was Lily, their soulmates. They're perfect for each other. They're both doing crazy shit. They couldn't make it work.

00:31:43
Speaker 7: But I feel like everybody is cheated, though in some capacity. It depends on what you think cheating is.

00:31:47
Speaker 1: It's him being outraged, he's I'm sorry, he's outraged because he found out when that clip dropped. He never knew she was cheating. He found out when that clip drop and he's outraged that she was cheating on him, Like outraged even though he was cheating out.

00:32:00
Speaker 4: Okay, but you don't know he could be outraged again by that divorce because she said it happened because he was cheating. And if you were also doing the exact same thing, like, yeah, I would be upset that we went through a divorce because I was cheating and you said I was the problem. Well wait, i'd I'd be outraged if you were doing the same things that you were mad at me about that need to break this marriage up.

00:32:21
Speaker 7: Well wait, she didn't catch him cheating.

00:32:23
Speaker 3: Well he was the one that got caught. That's how that's how they came to split. Get caught. I don't know the INDs and ends of that, but it's just then put it on the cound. I was going to say that and once you're messing once you're messing with like the business of Martha too, Like that's just muddies the waters because she's so intertwined with their personal lives. But they got married. I'm looking at it now. After Andrew, Martha's former husband ex husband and and Martha split, he ended up marrying Robin, the woman that he was cheating on her with.

00:32:54
Speaker 4: Oh so I mean she chose a marriage over keeping it Druce.

00:32:57
Speaker 3: I met in two thousand and five, got married in twenty ten, and had a child in twenty fifteen. And I guess they're still together.

00:33:06
Speaker 4: That that assistant is kind of wild though, Like I'm not taking anything off them. He was married, he shouldn't cheated. But mm hmm, what type of assistant is gonna go fuck your boss's husband.

00:33:18
Speaker 1: Well, she's seeing that she didn't have time too. There was no time on the calendar for her to fuck her husband, so.

00:33:22
Speaker 3: Somebody had to do it, Okay, So yeah, she stop and she like kind of robbed the cradles just in the workload mark.

00:33:27
Speaker 7: Wait, scroll up.

00:33:28
Speaker 3: He's eighty. He was born in nineteen eighty. Robin is born in eighty two, So on paper, they're Borre born in nineteen eighty. The husband Andrew Mark. Wait what husband is one year older than me?

00:33:39
Speaker 5: Yes, so Martha is eighty three. So she was you know what, I don't wait, we're getting this. This has to be wrong, this has to be There's no way this is right.

00:33:48
Speaker 4: Wait, they had just Steward born in nineteen eighty. Martha was born in what like the twenties?

00:33:56
Speaker 3: That dude was not born in nineteen eighty.

00:33:58
Speaker 4: She invented sheets.

00:33:59
Speaker 1: No, no way, that's the wrong.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: Andrew Stewart, Well, their kid must have been born in nineteen eighty. All right, my bad, apologies, I had the wrong article. Well it wasn't the wrong article. They'd had a type on whatever, it doesn't matter. He did end up marrying her old assistant, but then that she was twenty years twenty one years younger than Andrew. And then they eventually divorced, and he's remarried to a woman, Shyla Nelson Stewart, and they have five kids. Andrew's doing all right?

00:34:30
Speaker 4: Did she out there shooting?

00:34:32
Speaker 1: Did she have to pay him when they got divorced? Liked she?

00:34:34
Speaker 3: I would? I would imagine, Oh.

00:34:37
Speaker 1: Not if he got caught.

00:34:38
Speaker 4: She and it's that's why I was saying, we need to go back and revisit that divorce because if both people were cheating, that cancels it out and now I need half your money.

00:34:46
Speaker 3: Nah, he got it, yo, appeal that, bring that to trial and get half of her. They got divorced in the nineteen ninety It says the details about their settlement are not available publicly.

00:35:00
Speaker 7: Aks her for that. Yeah, he just he took He took a quiet bag. I know what that means.

00:35:04
Speaker 4: I mean, if she was, if she was even smart, she could have put all her assets with him with the divorce, so then the federal government couldn't seize it. Hold that for a second, fuck my assistant and get out, you know, shoot it back to me and keep my asistant.

00:35:20
Speaker 7: Put everything in her mother's name, Martha Stewart's mother's name.

00:35:24
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna go out like on a lim and think that Martha Stewart's mother's probably not alive, but unless she was born in nineteen eighty.

00:35:31
Speaker 1: But she might have been when because Martha, what did jail what like twenty years ago?

00:35:35
Speaker 4: Nah?

00:35:35
Speaker 3: No, mar just came home. Yeah, she fresh yelled.

00:35:39
Speaker 4: No, we were streaming three her a couple of years ago.

00:35:42
Speaker 3: Three months, sure, she I think Snoop picked her up two thousand and four. Damn twenty yearslyg oh yeah ship, when did she get out? But she was released on two thousand and five? She did five months? Oh my god, I did not know that was yeah my bad.

00:36:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that they're speaking twenty years to today.

00:36:05
Speaker 1: Actually, that's crazy.

00:36:07
Speaker 4: Their anniversary three three, her five year bid. She's gonna make some cup of noodles just to relive the feeling.

00:36:14
Speaker 7: Make a Jack Mac?

00:36:16
Speaker 1: Is that out? Julian? When does it come out?

00:36:18
Speaker 3: This comes out October thirtieth on Netflix. It looks really good, though.

00:36:21
Speaker 4: Did you guys watch the Brad Pitt and George Clooney Wolf movie on Apple TV?

00:36:28
Speaker 3: No?

00:36:28
Speaker 4: I really want to, though, just came out. I highly recommend it. It's really good. Brad Pitt and George Clooney.

00:36:34
Speaker 5: What what?

00:36:35
Speaker 7: I didn't even hear about this?

00:36:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't see.

00:36:38
Speaker 3: Any ads for it. I just opened Apple TV and it was there. Bad at promoting stuff promoted? Yeah, that's where Apple does fail.

00:36:44
Speaker 4: Peacock and Apple are terrible promoting stuff and they have amazing shows.

00:36:48
Speaker 7: What is it about?

00:36:49
Speaker 4: I won't spoil anything, but the synopsis is there two guys that clean up crime scenes. Oh okay, but like illegally. Yeah, like you call them when you accidentally murdered somebody. Then they come in and make sure shit is good, get rid of your Yeah, So they both have that occupation. And a woman similar to Martha Stewart, very powerful, older white woman fucking around with a little young twenty five year old do you want to get a Rocks off?

00:37:20
Speaker 7: Cheating?

00:37:22
Speaker 4: He ends up possibly dead And that's like within the first five minutes. So I'm not giving away much.

00:37:27
Speaker 3: But oh, Richard Kind is in it. I love him.

00:37:29
Speaker 4: No, it's a great movie. Highly recommend it. Also, while we're on Felons, I saw a trailer for the Shine documentary on Hulu today, which, don't smirk, I think is going to be a great doc I think Shine has a very interesting story, and I think it's worthy of a documentary story to go from rapper to shooting at someone with puff to going to jail for ten years to getting deported to becoming a diplomat. Like, I think this might be one of the better rapper documentaries. Yeah, the story is insane.

00:37:58
Speaker 3: DJ Kowed's executive producer on the project. Okay, I wonder.

00:38:04
Speaker 4: How much he'll get in to the Puff situation because he was somebody that that did the honorable thing by not snitching and saying Puff was actually the one that shot everyone. But I'm curious how far now that you know he did his time, he can discuss it.

00:38:22
Speaker 5: I don't think he will, though. I think that's a part of his I mean, then again, he made in this documentary. He may be saving it for the documentary, but I think that's a part of his life where he, you know, has decided to leave that in the past. But obviously it's an interesting story seeing that the lives that Sean has lived before rapping after rap. So yeah, I'm definitely, I definitely want to watch this because if you know the story of Sean and where he's from and his upbringing and things like that, hopefully this documentary dives into.

00:38:49
Speaker 7: A lot of that. So I'm definitely gonna check that.

00:38:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone watching anything else, It's been a weird few months.

00:38:56
Speaker 3: I feel like I've got to watch Love is Blind. I gotta watch somebody because they married just telling you like, they're doing like two episodes every Wednesday now, it's kind of like how they do their release now. Okay, I'm too behind, I think, but it's so much better than the UK one which which city the other the end though, they're in DC, Okay, and it's some weird everyone worked for the government, not many of them now actually they actually just people on.

00:39:21
Speaker 4: That show never have jobs. They're all like influencers. There's some of that, but they don't influence anything they're getting on that show.

00:39:28
Speaker 3: So please watch.

00:39:31
Speaker 4: I'll watched because I enjoyed the Clay season. Should we all watch and then have Clay back on.

00:39:35
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I want to bring it up. Clay is going to be back in New York soon and he wants He said that, like, if you guys want it back and come on, I was like, I would love to have you be like our correspondent for all things love.

00:39:45
Speaker 4: It's an open door policy for Clay in this podcast, Mike, he looks so upset.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: To Mars, I'm not upset at all.

00:39:53
Speaker 4: No, Clay can't be a piece of shit. If Martha Stewart is facts over the weekend as well. Outside of movie trailers, I did see one of them. I can't tell if it's the worst or best campaign ad I've seen in presidential history.

00:40:09
Speaker 7: This is the worst campaign ad you've seen in president Here.

00:40:13
Speaker 3: We go, all right, well, we'll talk about it and then we'll play it, because if you're listening, you should know what we're talking about.

00:40:18
Speaker 4: So for those that don't know. On YouTube, there's this balloon game. What's the official name of it, pop balloon, pop up balloon. Essentially, a bunch of women will be standing in line and they have a balloon, and a guy will come up and the host will ask him questions, and with each question, the woman could pop the balloon to say that she no longer wants him, and if there's a woman still standing there with a balloon, they end.

00:40:40
Speaker 7: Up going on it. They have to have sex on YouTube, they use the balloon as a condo.

00:40:46
Speaker 4: So the Harris team put together somewhat of a sketch relating to voting and how women will only sleep with you if you're a registered voter, voting Democrat.

00:40:59
Speaker 3: No, and then we'll talk about that's what I got from it. We'll talk about that's what.

00:41:04
Speaker 4: I took from it. I'm only getting pussy if I vote.

00:41:07
Speaker 3: It's good to be here. What do you do and how much do you work in finance making six figures?

00:41:11
Speaker 1: How tall are you?

00:41:13
Speaker 7: Six five?

00:41:14
Speaker 4: Do you have a plan you can see him? Nah?

00:41:17
Speaker 3: Not my thing?

00:41:20
Speaker 4: Hello, ladies, all right, immediately going into the black Twitter stereotypes two of making six figures and being six five like out the gate, like they can't see see him in person. Well you got to give him exact height, that's what it is obviously. But if he was six four, do you think there'd be some balloons popped for sure? Because that doesn't cut it. No, he's also not six y five, not even close. And check his taxes. They didn't pay him a hundred k for this ship.

00:41:52
Speaker 3: See, now you're saying this man can't be making six figures in his life. That's hate. I think he can.

00:41:57
Speaker 4: But I think everyone in this is an actor. I don't think this directors. What did he say he was an engineer or some ship?

00:42:02
Speaker 3: Well he's acting, but he's acting.

00:42:05
Speaker 4: He's an acting Okay, So what's your point that I don't think he works in Finance's.

00:42:13
Speaker 1: Because he's an actor.

00:42:15
Speaker 4: How much do you think they paid him for this acting?

00:42:17
Speaker 3: An ad?

00:42:18
Speaker 4: How much you like? Yeah, this would probably be like three grand, right, I'm gonna really sound like, hey, do you guys recognize him from any other films?

00:42:26
Speaker 3: That's not Oh my god, Roy, he an extra on Law and Order? Like what did he do to you?

00:42:32
Speaker 2: Like?

00:42:32
Speaker 3: Do his job? Nothing?

00:42:34
Speaker 4: You guys brought it here?

00:42:37
Speaker 3: I don't know.

00:42:37
Speaker 4: I think part of my white face, I think this is a little weird, as like the only black outreach campaign AD?

00:42:43
Speaker 3: But is this?

00:42:45
Speaker 1: Is it the only black outreach campaign AD? Or is it the only one that hate you because you were the demographic for it?

00:42:51
Speaker 3: Also, I don't like they're calling him black outreach.

00:42:53
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like it just who do you think their target audience was for this?

00:42:56
Speaker 3: Black people? Are the only people that watch this?

00:42:59
Speaker 4: Who with a straight face answer that question?

00:43:02
Speaker 3: Who do you think does? It? Doesn't matter what I think I'm talking about what it is not only black people don't watch those shows.

00:43:10
Speaker 1: Actually, I would be willing to bet more white people watch them shows than black people. Whuiet is this camp?

00:43:14
Speaker 3: To Demeris's point, because those shows reinforce the stereotypes that white people always think about black people. They check in those little YouTube pages like yep, there's still this and then going on about their day.

00:43:24
Speaker 4: So you think most of the views on those balloon shows are strategic racism.

00:43:30
Speaker 3: I don't think it's racist.

00:43:31
Speaker 4: They're going there to check to see if.

00:43:33
Speaker 3: Whether or not it's what black people are doing. No, whether or not it's they're.

00:43:36
Speaker 4: Still popping balloons. Thank god, I'm racist.

00:43:40
Speaker 3: I like this ad. It was creative. I don't a job. Why do you like this ad. I'm not even saying like I like it because like the things I like about I have nothing to do with Kamala and Tim Wallas. I think I think it's interesting too, Like this is a proper use of leaning into uh, like the cultural zeitgeist for everyone, the younger Democrat and the younger Democrats. For the young this is current. This is an online thing, like this is a digital show that lives on YouTube. They're drawing from. It's like an snl skit, Like they're drawing from something that's cultural, something that's topical, and applying it to their campaign. I'm not saying this is like damn, they did the balloon game. Black people got to go out there and smash the vote button. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like, if or dies, it's like someone on their team is at least in it enough to understand that this is a thing that's currently happening and it matters, rather than like them wheeling out like this shit from like you know, like it's like if Kamala were to tweet like Brad Summer this month, it's like you miss the moment. Yeah, okay, agreed.

00:44:43
Speaker 4: And of course this isn't the first time that they've tried to do culturally relevant things in campaigns. That's why I started saying, I'm not sure if this is the worst or best ad. We're just thinking out of all the things that we could be talking about with our campaign ads and policies.

00:44:57
Speaker 1: This is what you lean But see, this is the thing, and that's they have those ads, but y'all aren't going to talk about those ads. That's why they make ads like these ones.

00:45:05
Speaker 4: I've seen effectiveness.

00:45:06
Speaker 1: I've seen a million Kamala ads, Kamala ads, sorry, and the same thing with Trump, but we don't talk about the ones where they're talking about policy and all of that stuff. That's not what we talk about, especially on this podcast. That's not the ones that go viral. The ones that go viral are what we make go viral. It's the same thing when we say there's no good music out. There's plenty of good music out, but we only talk about the fucked up shit and the bad shit.

00:45:26
Speaker 4: Well, I think there's good music. But Okay, since you've seen a million campaign ads, can you we don't have to make it a Democrat thing. Can you actively tell me the three major policies of her and Donald Trump since there's a million ads explaining to me their policies.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: No, because I don't pay attention to them. Okay, I'm not the person to talk about that, though I'm aware of that. I'm not the person to talk about that.

00:45:47
Speaker 3: That's fair.

00:45:48
Speaker 1: But because the worried about I'm going to pay attention to is that one.

00:45:51
Speaker 4: I don't think there's I mean, you know, Trump working at white Castle isn't any better.

00:45:56
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that I wanted to bring up, the Trump one to he worked the grill, he dipped some fries and says.

00:46:03
Speaker 7: She worked in they found out which to Trump's.

00:46:06
Speaker 3: I like this, this is a funny. It's not only is it like a get his bag. It's not only Trump wants to be good.

00:46:13
Speaker 7: He wants to be He's gonna lean it to You think I'm a Nashal.

00:46:16
Speaker 3: This is petty.

00:46:17
Speaker 4: Look, he said, he would have passed the cat out of that drive through window. That would have made it a whole steal the vote.

00:46:23
Speaker 3: Steal it. So he said to a car dogs McDonald's. They're eating the cats to McDonald's, he said to a car drove driving by. Now worked fifteen more minutes than Kamala's funny, He's funny.

00:46:36
Speaker 5: I listen, I get it. Politics aside. I don't see how people don't like Donald Trump. Politics aside, like, how do you not like me? This is like, imagine this was the guy that you worked for at McDonald's. Imagine that was like, I.

00:46:48
Speaker 3: Would have everybody and nobody is taking that job serious?

00:46:50
Speaker 4: He would he would probably fire everyone and close the location and then file for bankruptcy and then and then not if you then get rewarded with all the profits everyone else was a Donald Trump. That was just just that his personality.

00:47:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be he is objectively funny.

00:47:07
Speaker 4: He's hilarious.

00:47:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this ad was this not ad?

00:47:11
Speaker 4: This I just don't want a funny president. I like, like it was funny when it wasn't serious. Now he's hilarious, but it doesn't funny. For nothing is funny. Have you seen the world?

00:47:22
Speaker 3: Nothing is funny. What do you think it's just getting rich off of us? Well, that's a fact. What uh? What was creepier though?

00:47:28
Speaker 4: Him trying to put fries together or JD vance at that?

00:47:31
Speaker 6: Uh?

00:47:31
Speaker 4: Is it a donut shop?

00:47:32
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

00:47:33
Speaker 7: That was so awkward. And saw your work here? She's like, yeah, like what.

00:47:41
Speaker 4: How how long have you worked here? Like what do you want? Are you ordering? And he's like, excise me, you know, you know, give me the stuff, the regular this stuff. That was the creepiest moment I've seen any candidate do.

00:47:58
Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, do you live here?

00:48:02
Speaker 7: How far the lessons with November fifth? Yeah?

00:48:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very soon.

00:48:06
Speaker 3: It's very soon.

00:48:07
Speaker 7: How you're feeling nervous tuesdays from two tuesdays?

00:48:10
Speaker 3: Scared?

00:48:11
Speaker 7: Nervous?

00:48:12
Speaker 4: Yeah a bit. I mean I'm petrified of both the results, so that would make me overall scared no matter what.

00:48:20
Speaker 3: But you know, are you guys doing early voting? Are you going to go to the polls. I'm gonna go to the polls.

00:48:24
Speaker 4: Touch the people, you know, get get the vibes, Touch the people, you going to jail. Where you're going you don't like the just the atmosphere of voting in person.

00:48:35
Speaker 5: I mean where I vote at uptown is not really it's usually empty. By the time I get this out of school and think empty everything is, It's like not a lot of people there.

00:48:43
Speaker 3: So it's like kind of it's a quick experience. It's not nothing, nothing crazy.

00:48:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's either school or basement of a church. It's always a weird place that you would send a bunch of grown ups to. Yeah, that I felt was odd, But I mean we got didn't We used to get the day off for election day for election. Yeah, they still do that with kids. I think, So, okay, maybe I will just vote from home. There'll be too many kids in the street.

00:49:09
Speaker 7: How do you vote from home?

00:49:10
Speaker 4: The mail? And uh, the ones that to steal the election, get them in the mail.

00:49:16
Speaker 3: I want a photo copy of.

00:49:19
Speaker 4: Death certificates that I could reverse to become other people.

00:49:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too late for mailing votes, I think, Yeah, I think it is.

00:49:25
Speaker 7: So it's never too late.

00:49:26
Speaker 4: Also, over the weekend, tribe called Quests was inducted into the Rock and.

00:49:30
Speaker 7: Roll Hall of Fame graduationally so legendary.

00:49:33
Speaker 4: Absolutely loved it. You know, we can't say enough about Trib call Quests and now they've changed every single generation after them. Everyone we love is influenced by them. I think you can make a very strong case of them being the greatest rap group that's ever existed, for sure. It was great to see Chappelle induct them as well. And you know, anytime Q Tip speaks, I listened, so it was it was a really nice, nice moment.

00:49:59
Speaker 7: Shout out to one that that was one of the first albums I bought. It was Midnight Marauders Quest.

00:50:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, pressing piece to Fife, you know, would have been great for him to see that. But I'm glad they're keeping his name alive. So shout out to Tribe and thank you to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for getting it finally right again. Yeah, we got what hole last year? Or was that two years ago? Maybe two years now?

00:50:20
Speaker 7: Maybe?

00:50:21
Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about.

00:50:23
Speaker 3: It being the rock and Roll Hall of Fame and like, should there just be a hip hop Hall of Fame?

00:50:28
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I think so. I think we definitely need our own Hall of Fame for our culture. I mean, but rock and roll is our culture.

00:50:35
Speaker 4: Too so, and I mean it's not just obviously rock and roll that gets inducted, and it's not just hip hop. That's why I guess I've always found a little confusing why earlier when they stopped just inducting rock and roll artists like maybe changed the name mm hm, like music Hall of Fame artists Hall of Fame m hm.

00:50:53
Speaker 3: But I get it.

00:50:54
Speaker 4: Rock and roll fans are stubborn and with throw fucking fit. Then they throw fit when Jay got inducted.

00:51:00
Speaker 3: They tried to.

00:51:01
Speaker 7: But I mean, if like for what you're saying, can you not understand it?

00:51:05
Speaker 4: Like this is not But then there's also as country artists, like there's been other genres that have been inducted.

00:51:11
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

00:51:12
Speaker 4: I'm not here to complain happy that tribe got their flowers.

00:51:16
Speaker 3: Did as you mentioned Jay, did you see that the NFL is extending their contract with him for the Super Bowl? I don't think there were any terms to it. They just got ahead of it and said, yes, we're like going to negotiate something because we like what's happening.

00:51:31
Speaker 4: Of course they do well, I mean, so far he's gotten it right as far as viewers like they're they're increasing their viewers with halftime shows. It's it's not like it's tanking, just a business move. Who even cares about the artist? If Jay is delivering, Like, that's all the NFL is going to look at is numbers. I mean they still have end racism in the in the end zone. Yeah, so to remind us all the corporations are so fullsh yes and that and that NDA with with Cap instead of putting in racism.

00:52:05
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to know. I want to know how much they gave him.

00:52:08
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him since where are you at?

00:52:11
Speaker 7: That was part of the don't we don't want to see you around here again?

00:52:17
Speaker 5: But like leave everything, like I said, don't don't have no Instagram account, delete everything, anything to get your your uh your voice out there, delete it.

00:52:25
Speaker 4: But I mean Cap even before then, like a lot of the pushback he got after the Neeling incident and then him not getting a job was that he was too quiet m hm. And then they were like, oh, he he doesn't really do anything for the community, which came out to be so false. He just doesn't promote it like he was investing all his money into that type of stuff. He just didn't tweet it, so everyone was like, oh, he's too quiet. So I'm sure Cap is still very much active in his goal and mission and now he's just playing with some house money. Yeah, so you know, I get it. But I see why why Hove is still going to be there, and I'm excited. I don't think he's he's missed since he's been there. I've loved every born and.

00:53:06
Speaker 5: Right artist that the show was great, and this is a business, so obviously the NFL wants to continuing good business.

00:53:11
Speaker 3: So they said the first partnership was five years for twenty five million. Uh, we again do not know what the next one is. But do you think it'll be another five years or how long do you think they'll extended for?

00:53:21
Speaker 4: What was that twenty five million went to Jay's pockets or went to the halftime?

00:53:27
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure Jay pockets they probably paid him for that. Yeah, that's probably what he was paid just.

00:53:32
Speaker 4: To I'm you know, Hove getting twenty five million to be like yo, Rihanna love that?

00:53:38
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that to included ROCKTDI yeah, look at it, look at it. This is I mean, yeah, that's really what it was. What the commission's input on the Super Bowl show and helping out with the league's social justice program to Inspire Change, which is given out through into seventy five million in grants. So yeah, they were paying for input, basically paying for his leverage.

00:53:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure that million went to Rock Nation as a company for his staff to also be able to hire people just for that program. And I'm sure Jay didn't get twenty five liquid in his pocket for picking.

00:54:10
Speaker 1: J Lo like six seven, ten.

00:54:13
Speaker 4: Oh, he definitely held on to some of it. Yeah, you got more than that.

00:54:16
Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

00:54:17
Speaker 4: I think is where you guys on the Rock Nation conspiracy that the moment this extension happened, we all of a sudden got a Kendrick Lamar interview out of nowhere to even discuss not like Us that will be played at Super Bowl? Do you feel do you feel like rock Nation should crumble? When Rock Nation is around? It's all tied together?

00:54:38
Speaker 1: Anybody tied I shop together up a Rory Mall and.

00:54:41
Speaker 4: Tory Lane's dad. Did you guys read this article?

00:54:46
Speaker 3: H Can you guys.

00:54:46
Speaker 4: Pronounce the name of the magazine because I'm yeah, Harper is bizarre, I'm stupid.

00:54:52
Speaker 3: So what would you call it. Yeah, what would you say, big Harp?

00:54:56
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure if there was like another way to say bizarre, Like if that was a form, how would you have said that word? Had I not, I would have said Harper's bizarre, and I thought I would have been wrong, but it would have sounded like he was from Boston. I didn't know that's how you spelled bizarre. Ho.

00:55:13
Speaker 3: I'm about halfway through this. I haven't finished it, but from what I read it, it seems interesting. I like that. I like this uh era of having another artist or someone that they're familiar with lead the Q and a M. You like that, I do. It's not the first time it's been done, but it's cool.

00:55:32
Speaker 4: I will start by saying I like that as well. And I like that Scissa and Kendrick have a relationship where they can discuss some of the stuff that they talked about get deep. They're both both spiritual people. I enjoyed the combo for what it was. I just don't know if this was the time to do this Scissa safe interview with everything that's going on the way fans demand certain interviews at times like this because siss of being his friend. I thought asked incredible questions, which we'll get to because I want to ask them all the exact same questions. I think she's a great interviewer. But once they got into some of the current stuff of what's happening with the beef, they're friends. There's not gonna be any pushback or explanation on anything. And I think there was a lot of fans that were at the edge of their seats waiting for Kendrick Lamar to address everything that's happened in the past six months, even like Sissa Rifley so was not scared, but like, yo, should even do you even want to go here? And they had a quick not like us conversation which was kind of just speaking in circles. To be quite honest to me, this was the only question where I was like, all right, man, I didn't need this. Everything before that I thought was great and I loved their back and forth, but she asked to break down not like us, and we don't even like really get to the nitty gritty of what that song is about. And then it just becomes Yo, it's because I have morals and values. If you identify with that, you identify with not like us. All right, man, you called him a pedal. Can we get into that? I just had some follow up questions. I wasn't mad at his first explanation, but since we're bringing this up, can we get into the record for real?

00:57:13
Speaker 3: She tried, She said, break that down for me after his initial response, and then he went on to to your point, this man has morals, values, he believes in, something, he stands on, something he's not pandering, and then kind of on and on about someone that's not afraid to make mistakes from his experiences and learned as you.

00:57:30
Speaker 4: Know, which is great. But I just don't know if that record is as deep as the explanation that he is making. I think meet the Grams Euphoria six sixteen deep records, but the one we're choosing to have that type of response to me was a pretty flat out record of Hey, you are nasty and this is a great mustard beat.

00:57:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:57:54
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's that deep, but I thought I thought it was a cool INVI, just don't don't even bring up the not like us part. If we're not going to get a real detailed answer about what siss is asking. This is good to Julian's credit. She did give some push, but like, can you break down exactly what that is? And I think after he gave that PC answer, she was like, all right, I see where this is at. I'm not gonna cry. Let's move on. But other than that, I thought it was a phenomenal interview. I loved Sciss's questions.

00:58:27
Speaker 7: About phenomenal but it was good.

00:58:28
Speaker 4: It's cool to just see two superstars go back and forth on topics like this.

00:58:34
Speaker 5: I thought there was a conversation of two friends that a writer just happened to be sitting in on, you know, which was cool. I guess they want to call it an interview, but I don't think that it felt like an interview. I think Sissy and Kendrick talk often, and this time a writer from Harper's Bizarre just happened to be sitting next to him writing everything down or recording.

00:58:56
Speaker 7: But you know, Kendrick, I like some of his answers.

00:59:01
Speaker 5: For me, him breaking down the record and the man that he is was the most interesting part, only because if you know, I respect it. I respect Kendrick is an artist. But if you say he's a man with morals and things like that, I just you know, again, if things are true, and so be it.

00:59:19
Speaker 7: If not, then you gotta wear it. But to have morals to say you're a man of morals.

00:59:23
Speaker 5: But then you know, make that allegation that somebody is a pedal, and you know, we as what we know if Kendrick has information that we don't, but from what we know, that man is not a pedophile. I just look at that a little like, I don't know if somebody with morals does that. That's why I just wish they would have left it alone.

00:59:44
Speaker 4: Unless we were getting a full blown interview about this past year, not just his personal stuff, then I just leave it alone. Like I love the personal stuff they talked about. I think it was an extension of some of the questions that I had after mister Morale, like of his journey, and I think Sizza got into that bag and kind of extended mister Morale to where he's at now, because mister Morawl's what three years ago, uh two too, So it was nice to see that here the update of you know, Kendrick's healing journey.

01:00:16
Speaker 5: In that entire thing, the interesting part was when Sissa broke down the way that she writes and records and she from the lens of other artists. I thought that was super arch That was that was interesting. So she said, you know, she's too honest sometimes. She wrote a song last summer that was too honest, she said, and she couldn't put it out. She was in there telling on herself and she says she can't stop because she is bored. And she was like, I like to tell on myself. It's like I have to tell on myself so I'm not bored because otherwise I'm just like, what's the point. I thought that was interesting. Yeah, and her saying that she, I guess I shouldn't look through it. I guess I shouldn't look through my eyes, I should look through somebody else's. As a way of writing and recording her art and her music, she tends to be frank ocean or future. I thought that was interesting. Yeah, And I wasn't expecting, you know, sister to to say something like that. But that was an interesting angle because sometimes it is kind of tough if you're a person that is very vulnerable. Sometimes you're like, nah, I can't give all of this.

01:01:16
Speaker 3: Or critical of yourself.

01:01:17
Speaker 4: Like what I thought was so interesting about her writing from other artists's point of view, like Frank her future is she said, it was much easier, and I think what how I interpreted that was, it's you don't have to acknowledge your faults because now you're pretending to be somebody else. You can deal with their bullshit because it's not actually yours instead of having to face the own critical, critical issues you have with yourself, especially when you're singing studio, Like yeah, I'm I think she brought us some examples that said she's super selfish, codependent, codependent, she's a people pleaser. A lot of that stuff is tough to face and then try to fix, because that's a whole nother journey. So yeah, let me get on here and I can see how other artists live and how they, you know, put their point of view out there. I'll just write from that, yeah, kind of like that, So list in the future and and just pen something that's similar to what he talks about.

01:02:11
Speaker 3: Like that self awareness convent that way had. It's really interesting to see this from like the artist's writing standpoint.

01:02:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, when she said, why am I trying to not be humans so bad? Because it hurts so damn bad. But that's the job. No matter how many spirits you talk to or anything like that, it just doesn't matter. You have to be here. You're going to be in the You're going to be in the either eventually. It's just not now. So it's like, yeah, like why am I running from my own vulnerability so much?

01:02:37
Speaker 4: Like it's what you and I talk about a lot. Self awareness can actually cause depression. When you start to be super aware of the negative things about yourself, it just makes you hate yourself even more. It's like, it's worth even fixing. Let me just go pretend like it's not there and just be somebody else, and that way I don't have to suffer from it.

01:02:56
Speaker 3: I'm shit now that the more that I'm reading rereading this, I know it was a Kendrick interview, but Siss is pretty fucking vulnerable throughout this entire thing. She said to whatever she was responding to, she said, that's what I feel like I suffer from. I'm not a teachable for real, that's my problem because I'm always like in my fear to do some shit like that's to say that just so directly, that is awesome. Scissa to me, like really spoke out and spoke up about herself.

01:03:22
Speaker 7: I like when she says she has a low pain talente with a high competition tolerance.

01:03:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, which and she said, I don't even understand what that means. I got what she was trying to say that it's not a sensitive bully per se, but you're so competitive that you're constantly trying to keep up with everyone, but you can't really deal with what comes with that competition. You may not be built to handle the pain that comes with always having to compete, which I thought was brilliant, and even Kendrick asked her some great questions. Deamarus, did you read the part about her mom?

01:03:57
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love that part.

01:04:00
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think I got to it.

01:04:01
Speaker 4: It's in the beginning, so essentially, well, why I ask you to Marus because it was, Oh I did read that part.

01:04:06
Speaker 3: I did well.

01:04:06
Speaker 1: She said her mother was she's her ancestors, you know, greatest dreams. Because her mother didn't have the ability to be able to be a bitch and to be able to stand on her shit because she was fighting for like integration a schools and things like that.

01:04:19
Speaker 4: It always had to monitor herself to make sure she wasn't being too aggressive or being too much of a quote unquote bitch, like she could never really express herself fully because her entire life and her generation as a black woman, she just had to.

01:04:33
Speaker 3: Be quiet growing up in the fifties. Said yeah, so, I.

01:04:37
Speaker 4: Mean again, that's kind of why I like this artist and artist thing because, as we know to these two are like some of the best writers we've had in our generation. So to have them talk back and forth deeper into the writing, I absolutely love. I want more of this type of convote between great writers.

01:04:56
Speaker 7: Yeah.

01:04:56
Speaker 5: I know the conversation that they had was much longer than this editorial was, but you know, I like the fact that they sat down and agreed to have this, you know, some of it, some of the conversation published so that we can get a glimpse into the type of conversation that they had.

01:05:11
Speaker 7: I thought it was dope.

01:05:12
Speaker 4: I thought Kendrick did a really cool job of extending the father Time song with samfa on mister Morale and he talks about his pops and like, you know, a lot of us have that similar story where your dad raises you to not be weak, like don't show emotions, don't cry, like I'm preparing you for a world that does not give a fuck about you, So you need to be a man. And Kendrick discussing that his pops taught him that and like hard work, and his dad was always there for the family but didn't prepare him to be vulnerable in his job. Is vulnerability like his dad was was raising him to go into the workforce, Like Kendrick would have been great at the factory with the shit that his dad taught him, work ethic, masculinity, everything, but he's a rapper his whole entire job and to even grow his catalog is to be more vulnerable. So I thought that was kind of cool. Like a lot of our parents, even when they're great, raise us for something that isn't really our destiny, Like it's not my destiny to go be the super masculine guy that hides his feelings and does great on Wall Street, Like, no, I gotta fucking come on a podcast and talk about my feelings. Yeah, yeah, to what kind of to grow this, I have to get more vulnerable and know more about myself to talk on this microphone.

01:06:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:06:26
Speaker 4: So I thought that was a really cool, cool point.

01:06:28
Speaker 3: To be great at your craft, you have to be vulnerable. Yeah, so this is I mean, at first, all I knew was masculinity. I always kept the walls up because of my pops. But the more I delve deeper into my music, the more expressive I had to get with myself. That is the feminine energy right there. So yeah, the ability to be a man. But to become a better artist and be a better person, you need to also tap into the side where you know the feminine energy.

01:06:51
Speaker 1: So ye speak, which I think that's I think that I don't know if Sissa had to deal with it, but I've heard a lot of black women, maybe like older millennials and like middle millennial black women talk about that same thing because a lot of them were raised like men, as if like this world does not give a fuck about you. I know a lot of my older cousins and my aunts were just like, this world don't care about you. So all the tears, all the softness, all that that you have, you had to lock that shit up. So then you come out and people are dating these women and they're like, why are you so masculine? Like we were taught the same way that y'all were taught. The world doesn't give a fuck about us. We can't cry, we can't be soft. We gotta make money, make money, make money, so that nobody can tell us what the fuck to do.

01:07:29
Speaker 7: So, oh, they say this world, they just be talking about America.

01:07:34
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

01:07:35
Speaker 5: Because I feel like there's people that live in other countries that don't have the same because they don't live in a capitalistic society like yeah, of course, but that's not our right, so they don't have those stresses in those you know, yeah, those type of things pulling at them.

01:07:48
Speaker 4: And then there's also places in the world that don't have the luxury of feelings to begin with, because it's about survival completely. Like, even though America is completely fucked up in a lot of places, we do have the privilege of being able to explore feelings to some degree. I mean, of course, there's people that are starving and fighting every day and don't have time to do anything feeling related in America, but overall, compared to the rest of the world, yeah, this is this is an American thing.

01:08:16
Speaker 1: The chasing of dreams is an American thing.

01:08:18
Speaker 3: Which is a luxury, yes, but there's a yeah, a luxury part with you still have to abide by the how this country is built. There's also like the stigmas and everything that comes with that. You know, it's just I don't know that's a whole I mean it is.

01:08:36
Speaker 5: I mean there's a universal thing where you shouldn't be too vulnerable publicly. Like I think that that's just a thing in life, like you shouldn't be you know, like if if you're going to work, like and then you're at your cubicle at your desk crying, I don't think that that's a healthy thing.

01:08:51
Speaker 4: If it's an everyday thing.

01:08:53
Speaker 5: No, I agree with crying is healthy, But like if you at your at your desk and just crying in front of everybody, it's kind of like, I don't know if that's a good idea that we can do that in the bathroom. You can do that on the way to work and you know when you get home, But in front of the others, I just think that shows a sign of weakness on whatever part, like whether it's a mental weakness, whether it's emotional weakness.

01:09:13
Speaker 1: But I think that's also the exact opposite, because I think it takes more, it takes more strength to cry in front of somebody. I think hiding your emotions all the time is weak hiding them Like sometimes, yes, not everyone.

01:09:27
Speaker 7: Everybody don't deserve your emotions though.

01:09:29
Speaker 1: No, but see, but yes, I agree, everybody doesn't deserve your emotions, and there should be times where you know, it's like Roy said, it shouldn't be an everyday thing, but there are people who you shouldn't hide your emotions all the time, because if you hide your emotions all the time, then that's how people. We have all these people committing taking themselves out, and people are like, well, they seemed like the happiest person in the world, and it's like because nobody ever knew what they were feeling. It's okay to share your emotions. Can it be used against you?

01:09:55
Speaker 5: Yes?

01:09:55
Speaker 1: But sometimes if I'm at my desk here and I break down and cry, I don't think that that makes me weak. I think that in that moment, that's what I needed to do, and it would be much easier for me to go in the bathroom and cry than to cry in front of y'all. I don't think that crying in public makes you weak, but you do have.

01:10:11
Speaker 5: To practice emotional intelligence at some point, though, Like, I don't think you can just be like vulnerable and you know.

01:10:17
Speaker 4: I think that's part of the journey of vulnerability, is exploring those feelings and then yes, you'll get to a place where you can manage them way different no matter what. Like, as much as this is great with our generation that we are so vulnerable and cool with feelings, we still have a job to do and you can't always be super emotional.

01:10:37
Speaker 3: To get a job done. Like, yeah, it's a balance that you need to learn.

01:10:41
Speaker 4: But if somebody's having like just a fucking awful week and they just can't take it and break down one time at work, I don't think there's anything wrong with that if that's who they are all the time. Like we can't even get through a fucking marketing meeting because Jan's always crying. Like then I think, yeah, Jan should be fired and probably find a different job because she can't manage her feeling.

01:11:00
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's not.

01:11:01
Speaker 5: It's like, if you're crying got work, it's not it's nothing wrong with you crying at work, But there's something wrong. If you're crying at work, there's something seriously wrong and you need to check that what that is.

01:11:13
Speaker 7: Whatever that is, Like if you're in the workspace or whatever, just crying.

01:11:16
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, let it out because obviously you need to, but like there's something wrong, Like what is the problem?

01:11:23
Speaker 1: Well, they're crying, so there's obviously something wrong.

01:11:25
Speaker 5: But that's why I said, practicing emotional intelligence is a it's a thing that people need to do because you don't need to be doing that in front of a bunch of people that one don't deserve it too, probably can't do nothing for you, can't help your situation. So when they say people don't give a fuck, people don't that's I think that's where it comes from because it's like a lot of times we all have our own emotions and things that we're dealing with.

01:11:47
Speaker 7: We all have our own lives and things that we're dealing.

01:11:48
Speaker 5: With, So I might not even be available to help you in your moment because it's like, nigga, I'm right with you.

01:11:54
Speaker 3: I'm ready to cry right here too, but I can't.

01:11:56
Speaker 1: And that's a And see this is another thing too, And I feel like men really have this issue. Tears don't always need to be fixed. It's like if it's raining, like there's nothing you can do about it. It's coming. So you saying I can't help you because you're crying. Just because I'm crying doesn't mean that I need you to help me. Same way when you see people on the subway crying and we all ignore them and just be like, girl, I feel you. That's it.

01:12:19
Speaker 5: Like you get off, Nigga crying on the train. I'm off at the next stop. You're about to do something.

01:12:26
Speaker 4: This is an act.

01:12:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

01:12:28
Speaker 4: He's not having a mental health happens right before you shoot.

01:12:30
Speaker 3: Up the whole in his pocket? Yeah, ninety degrees outside, I'm cool.

01:12:35
Speaker 7: Next stop is minds.

01:12:36
Speaker 4: I agree with you, DeMars, but there are different levels to that. Yeah, sometimes you just need to cleanse, just need to cry, just need to get certain things out, which I practice in relationships of like do you just need to vent or do you want to fix the problem? Asking that in the beginning because some people just I agree, just y'all just got to cry today and just get this shit out. I'll feel better. But to Mal's point, a lot of people do want to fix the problem. And if I'm going through shit quiet as fuck, I can't also be here and carry your baggage too. I got enough of my own fucking baggage. Yeah, Like I don't project my shit on other people because I know they're going through other stuff which probably isn't healthy. But you know, I'm on I'm on the journey with Bizarre two.

01:13:15
Speaker 7: Yeah, not Kendrick.

01:13:18
Speaker 4: Who else would you guys like to see do something like this? I like the Rick Rubin and Andre three thousand article a few years ago. I thought that was great. I did you see a clip? I think it was Metro and Timberland. We're having a combo back and forth. Because again it's not an interview per se. But what artist would you guys see like to see together on this?

01:13:38
Speaker 1: I mean, the most obvious for me would be I would love to see jay Z interview Beyonce.

01:13:44
Speaker 4: I think that that they did that ship on the outro of everything is low. No, I'm like over they went back back and forth like kissing styles about their problems.

01:13:53
Speaker 1: You thought Martha was bad, not like that, but like a actual business inner yew. I think that that would be good. But that's I mean, I feel like that's the obvious one.

01:14:02
Speaker 3: You uh. I mean, I don't want to lead the transition here, but I would I think a Tyler the creator for l One would be great. I would like to see. They did something like that already though, Yeah, I'd like to see my thing, my thing with these I love the Coundricks was cool. But what I would be more interested in is finding someone that idolized someone and now is an established star and having them go face to face with their idol and have the opportunity to just have that moment with them and just speak freely to them. So I think that would be cool. I'm trying to think of other artists where that would make sense. A younger artist that.

01:14:34
Speaker 1: Can we have Nas interviewed Jacob post Beef.

01:14:38
Speaker 4: Have you let them down?

01:14:40
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, practice emotional intelligence, Junie. I didn't say anything.

01:14:45
Speaker 3: I got a lot.

01:14:46
Speaker 7: I could have said, right, I could have trauma dumped them you just now, and I didn't.

01:14:50
Speaker 1: I just feel like that would be a good one. But that's me I.

01:14:53
Speaker 3: Would love to see. I would love to see Jordan and Lebron.

01:14:56
Speaker 5: That would be great. Oh wow, as Lebron. As Lebron gets ready to you know, retire in a couple of years mm hmm. And obviously he's you know, he's already a huge businessman, but he'll probably become a business bigger business person once he's done playing. I think that conversation with Michael Jordan and Lebron James would be I think it'd be grateful all athletes, honestly, especially black athletes.

01:15:18
Speaker 3: We know what I think it would be surprisingly interesting is someone like we don't hear a lot from outside of the music, someone like Future sitting down with one of the younger kids from Atlanta. I think that would be cool. Yeah, you hear him like actually speaking open up outside of you know, all the music he's been putting out. I think that could be good and help serve a demo that probably needs it. Yeah.

01:15:41
Speaker 4: I still would like to see the peer versus peer thing too, though, because I do think at this point we can say Sissa and Kendrick are peers. Yes, is that safe to say?

01:15:52
Speaker 1: Yes?

01:15:52
Speaker 4: Closer in age, similar time coming up. They're both A listers, like I think they're peer. That's why I really enjoyed this conbo. It feels like obviously they're two separate people going through two separate different journeys.

01:16:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, not Chris Rock.

01:16:11
Speaker 4: I was talking about music, just music.

01:16:16
Speaker 3: I'm just.

01:16:18
Speaker 4: Because you know my triggers, because now I'm really thinking about it now.

01:16:21
Speaker 7: Practice emotional intelligence. Don't don't yell at me.

01:16:23
Speaker 4: It's not good for a podcast. Just gotta let it's gotta crash out. This generation does not want emotional intelligence at all. Our favorite thing is the term crash out. But with Sizza and Kendrick, different paths, but I think they're kind of in a similar part in their their lives. I mean, Kendrick has a family, says it doesn't, so that's probably the biggest separation. But they're they're both going through a similar part in their career and in their lives with you know, being in their thirties. I like the peer verse peer thing. I think you can get more out of it because people are going through similar things rather than like this sense versus the the up and comer that loved him, which would be great combos. But you know, I'd rather see, you know, Tyler do this with somebody that's currently in music.

01:17:13
Speaker 7: But you know, either way, I'm looking forward to this next project.

01:17:23
Speaker 3: I'm so excited. Since we recorded last we got a record in a half. I guess the one. The one technically is a single that he put out this morning.

01:17:32
Speaker 4: Can can you guys pronounce these song titles for me? As well, I don't think there's easy as bizarre.

01:17:38
Speaker 3: Well, this one's called Nooid. It's short, it's Paranoid. Sonoyd came out today and it looks like it's the third tracks he put three Nooyd. I'm just I love Tyler. I could say so much about him, but I don't know. This seems this whole world he's building. I'm really excited for this. I think it's gonna be a great album. Again, to our conversation about not playing with the rules, he's doing the Tuesday release. He put out a single on a Monday, like in this single is more like a it feels like less of a single and more like a an interlude. Yeah, he wraps like maybe sixteen bars. So I'm just infatuated with the whole. It's cinematic, the coloring, the shots, the drone shots, the costume, the aesthetic. Everything is just greedy one does it as good as he does.

01:18:27
Speaker 5: He's the epitome of when you let an artist, you know, do what they want to do and just have people surround you that believe in your yeah, your vision and your dream Like he's the epitome of that.

01:18:38
Speaker 4: He's a perfect example of leave a genius alone, to let them.

01:18:41
Speaker 7: Do it, let them do what they want to do. I would love to see I would love to see Tyler to Create and DJ Kali sit down and talk.

01:18:48
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot about their whole I would love to see that. I would love to see what cal it is today.

01:18:52
Speaker 4: Tyler's addressed it a few different times throughout the years, where his like, you know, opinion has changed, obviously because he was upset at the time. Then he explained that he was happy almost to shit on his album because why are you in the back seat shitting like on me? I've never said anything bad about you, And then he moved on to like I don't really care, which is usually how that cycle goes.

01:19:15
Speaker 3: But yeah, in that moment, you got to let me be mad at what somebody said.

01:19:18
Speaker 4: But the years later, it's like, I don't care, man, And it was just another like representation of opposite sides of hip hop not understanding each other. Yeah, well, not on Tyler's side, because he didn't say anything to begin with. But you know the quote unquote A listers that look at people like Tyler that are weird but have more money and sell more than him, So it's like your goal is to make money and sell records.

01:19:41
Speaker 3: I'm doing that over here better than you. Why am I weird?

01:19:45
Speaker 4: I do your shit better than you. That was the only thing you care about.

01:19:48
Speaker 7: I think DJ Cal I think that was Ego got the best of from that.

01:19:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wanted the number one. He wanted to be able to say, Yo, look at this, and Tyler goes number one damn near every time he releases. So I always found that weird. Like even when like Troy Ad was calling Joey Badass and his crew weirdos and their corny and like y'all don't play in the club and it's y' y'all are on majors. Joey Badass was a completely independent artist that was selling out festivals. I think his rate at that time, he said, was two hundred and fifty K, Like I don't really care about the club on Ganz of Wort today, Like everything you preach about independence, making money impact, I do all that and I do it better than you. So why am I weird because I'm not playing in the club, Like I was just found that that juxta odd with hip hop, but they did it to Kanye too, And now look at who he is. I think Tyler's already stopped established himself as one of the greats of this generation. I don't think we'd ether get into that. So I don't think this is really going to change too much of the trajectory, like this will make Tyler up a peg Paul's than he is already, because I think he deserves to be in that top five conversation period when it comes to this generation.

01:21:04
Speaker 3: What do you guys think of again, the song that he put out today, it's circles around paranoia, and it seems like he's entering this phase of being you know, tens of millions of dollars up and now the paranoia of being successful is setting in. Yeah, I think that that's just like a financial paranoid he you know, the few lyrics we get here, he's saying like, I can't buy a home in private home. Invader's got my brother's dian Now he raps about carrying a gun in his card under his bed, his neighbors want him dead. Like he's saying all these things that are evoking like fear that come with being this successful. What do you guys think about? You know, the actual lyrics from the song.

01:21:44
Speaker 4: It's funny. I didn't think too much of this record. I like it a lot, but again, it feels like an interlude and feels like something so much bigger to what the overall theme of the album is going to be. Like, I don't think we're supposed to really fully understand this yet. I think it was intentionally or intentionally brief to give us just a taste of what the bigger picture will be with this project. That's why I'm not like overthinking too much on this record, because it's not supposed to be heard just by itself. And I think Tyler has a pretty quick turnaround when he starts promoting stuff. Usually it's like a week or two. So I think, did he releases one to do so tomorrow? I think Tomorrow came out on DSPs next week, We're going to get the album comes out next Tuesday. Oh it is officially next Tuo.

01:22:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, October twenty eighth.

01:22:32
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, as much as I love release, he's.

01:22:34
Speaker 3: Doing a Tuesday release. So there was a clip resurfacing he had a Nard War interview where he said I missed Tuesday releases and I were asked why and he said, look like I understand numbers wise, the labels always say the weekend's better for streaming, but he said, I don't believe in that. I said, I think people play music more on the weekends, but they're not really listening to it. He said, I want this to be something that you listen to on the train or in the car as you go to work, like something you're like sitting and consuming in one listen by yourself when you're going through like the nine to five during the work week, rather than you listening to it with friends, like at a party on the weekend, which I agree with. I think that's interesting. And he's like, it's not worth the numbers for me to do a week in release. He goes, I just believe in the Tuesday release and I wanted to do that. So what's your what's your favorit way to consume music. I'm not gonna lie. I think mine's is definitely sleeping.

01:23:21
Speaker 5: Like while you're asleep, you wake up and like know the album I promise you was weird. If you play music. I'm one of those people I can hear everything in my sleep. Okay, Like I'm talking about sleep and your brain. This music, no, this music playing like I can hear the music.

01:23:36
Speaker 4: It's part of the dream, not.

01:23:38
Speaker 5: Necessarily part of the dream, but I can definitely hear the music, like I can hear what I'm listening to.

01:23:42
Speaker 1: I agree, I used I never believed that before, but when I was watching Narcos, I started dreaming in Spanish and I was like, oh, I know for real?

01:23:52
Speaker 4: Or were they just talking about Spanish while you were asleep and you were hearing that?

01:23:55
Speaker 1: Was dreaming in Spanish?

01:23:57
Speaker 7: Prayer to go meet the plug like I got to learn Bandish in a month.

01:24:03
Speaker 3: Back to Mexico.

01:24:05
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful what you listen to.

01:24:06
Speaker 4: That's why I hooked on PHONEX folded. You just needed Narcos and go to sleep.

01:24:09
Speaker 7: Yeah that's it.

01:24:10
Speaker 5: But yeah, I love I love playing albums like just while I'm sleeping, just have it on on on repeat the album and you can definitely hear it.

01:24:19
Speaker 7: And that's how some of the albums.

01:24:21
Speaker 5: When this is an album came out with us in Seattle, Yeah, that night, like I just had it on repeat, went to sleep, played it welcome the next day, let it play.

01:24:27
Speaker 7: Was like this album was crazy.

01:24:28
Speaker 4: I prefer my number one way is either walking or running. This isn't joint. M I just walked around Seattle and listened. My first listen was just walking around the city of Seattle. I taken music better that way. Second would probably be on the train. Third would be the.

01:24:47
Speaker 7: Car I let while while I'm cleaning too, So cleaning.

01:24:52
Speaker 4: I like that a lot. But music that I've already heard new music I don't prefer to do with with cleaning because sometimes you know, you get distracted and can't take in everything that's happening with the music. But I love putting an album on that I've already heard to clean, but to take it an album for the first time, I'm I'm walking and running is typically the best way.

01:25:10
Speaker 1: Do you guys read the lyrics, so I really enjoy the thing now that Apple does obviously where you have the lyrics, I prefer to read the lyrics on I'm hearing this song for the first time. Actually, sometimes I'll read the lyrics before I listen to the song. Really, yeah, lyrics are what's most important to me. A song desert before dinner, No, lyrics are what's the most important to me. What I've and I always thought it was like that for everybody, But what I've realized either between working on this podcast and just meeting people, the beating the melody is what's most important to people. When it comes to music. Lyrics have always been number one for me.

01:25:40
Speaker 4: I mean personally, Yeah, lyrics are up there with me. But I can name a bunch of amazing songs with shitty lyrics but great melody. I can't name an amazing song that has great lyrics and a shitty.

01:25:53
Speaker 1: Melody because you don't listen to Taylor Swift.

01:25:56
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift has bad melodies.

01:25:58
Speaker 1: She has some songs where the lyrics are really that you would never listen to.

01:26:01
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just like progression.

01:26:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a music gotto. If the music isn't good, I don't go what you're saying, I'm on that side, don't. As much as I love lyrics, if the music turn that shit off, Like if the music I don't can you could be saying the ill as shit dropping the most jewels all of that. If that much, If that beat in that music and those melodies ain't right, it's just not pallatble, I can't listen to it.

01:26:26
Speaker 7: Yeah.

01:26:27
Speaker 4: And also, like with writers that are really really, really good, I don't like to necessarily read the lyrics because things can be interpreted differently, Like I like to interpret it how I hear it, because I feel like if I sit and read the lyrics, I may not perceive it in my way. I perceive it in what I'm reading, Like you've never listened to a record and got a completely different perspective of it, And then like went back and read the lyrics like I was totally fucking wrong, and now I kind of don't like it as much. I can't relate to it the same because I just misheard the lyrics in my way in my brain like likes it this way. I know it sounds No, I get what you definitely thought. For like years on certain records they were saying something that I related to, And then I went and looked at the lyrics. I was like, oh, this is not anything of what I thought it was.

01:27:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's five too.

01:27:17
Speaker 3: Yeah that one.

01:27:19
Speaker 4: Should have been common sense though, Like she's five too, Why would you think that she's fine too?

01:27:25
Speaker 3: She's five too? But I want you eyeball of chicks height like.

01:27:29
Speaker 4: She Kamala campaign that, But you can't.

01:27:33
Speaker 1: Y'all, you can eyeball the chicks you can hie eyeball people's hype period.

01:27:37
Speaker 7: No, you cannot.

01:27:38
Speaker 3: You can't.

01:27:39
Speaker 1: How tall do you think I am?

01:27:40
Speaker 3: You eyeball Demeris' weight, Yeah, which is way harder. You were like, what not even five pounds?

01:27:46
Speaker 1: He was literally like two pounds off.

01:27:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, then it's a weird skill to have. Yeah, I mean be in the weight whisper.

01:27:52
Speaker 5: Is funny coming from where I'm from doing a lot of weights. So you gotta be able to tell when that's all that.

01:28:00
Speaker 3: Ain't that? Ain't an eight ball to you? Shaved them off the top, nigga, give me. We were on, we were on not gonna lie. I hung it up.

01:28:08
Speaker 4: A while ago, we were on a work Zoom meme on BIGS and we were talking about like real work ship big if Big started doing math about an offer, and he's like, my bad. I was still doing crack math. But he was accurate. Just the way he did it. How he added that shut up was so fucking funny.

01:28:30
Speaker 3: But I started laughing because I knew what he was doing was like yo too. I was like, this ain't that. But he landed at the right number. But in my mom I'm like, kill this ain't that. My nigga, but yeah he got the number right.

01:28:42
Speaker 7: Oh man, that's funny.

01:28:44
Speaker 4: What were we talking about before that? Oh? Fine to five to. If you're talking to a girl though, and she brings up, yo, you like that girl, she's five too, but don't worry. I want you.

01:28:54
Speaker 7: Instead, like, yeah, that makes no sense.

01:28:57
Speaker 4: No, she's fine too, don't get me wrong, but I want you.

01:28:59
Speaker 1: People are slow, Yeah, I love slow people, but may you really can't?

01:29:03
Speaker 5: All right, height it depends, like all right, so if you wearing heels right, youre walking with hills, I don't know you.

01:29:10
Speaker 7: I'm just looking at you.

01:29:12
Speaker 5: I can kind of sort of guess if you take the heels off. I look at you, like, okay, see the hill. I'm like, as she's probably dropped down three four inches maybe five four five five? Like you can you know what I'm saying. But I don't think that. I don't know why people thought that. That's what Lloyd was doing in his record she's five too, just eye in some height yeah, like no, it's not what he was saying. And such an interesting height to pick. Like, there was always a stereotype five five of brown eyes was used in so many records, but like I want that that shorter girl over there.

01:29:45
Speaker 7: And not only that fine, and five don't sound that like if I'm in the saying.

01:29:49
Speaker 1: Well, got to hear it, and he didn't really clear if he didn't really like it wasn't really clear. She's five.

01:29:53
Speaker 4: It was just five, use her five? You in here the n e or the vee. It was just she's so hy too, all right. Lloyd sometimes does that throughout his entire career. One of my one of my favorite Walet records is Wally and Lloyd Sabotage. When we were in college. The first time we were listening to that, I really thought on the hook, Lloyd said, my girl likes her salad toss. He doesn't pronounce his words like all the way right.

01:30:20
Speaker 1: Well, what did he say?

01:30:22
Speaker 3: He might have said that, No, you know that hooked me. My girl likes her salad. I mean, what's wrong with that?

01:30:30
Speaker 4: My girl likes to sabotage. Oh, but how he says it, it almost sounds like salad toss.

01:30:35
Speaker 1: So did you like it before or after you found out?

01:30:38
Speaker 3: No, he thought it was salad toss. That was his ship.

01:30:41
Speaker 1: Shit.

01:30:42
Speaker 4: That's when I felt seen.

01:30:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.

01:30:43
Speaker 4: He was like, okay, me too. No, I started laughing. I'm glad it was sabotage. That would have been a weird thing to say.

01:30:49
Speaker 1: You just heard mam say me too. You used just gonna let him rock out all what he said.

01:30:53
Speaker 4: He likes to get his diaper changed.

01:30:55
Speaker 7: Who don't know that about me?

01:30:57
Speaker 4: That's like one of the first things he says when he meets people.

01:31:00
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, yo, change diapert.

01:31:03
Speaker 4: Y'all got this pamper on me right now?

01:31:05
Speaker 3: Oh?

01:31:06
Speaker 4: What?

01:31:07
Speaker 1: Please?

01:31:10
Speaker 4: Do we have voicemails?

01:31:11
Speaker 3: We do. There's some fun ones today. I'm really excited, so let's get into it. You've got mail, y'all. What's say y'all?

01:31:20
Speaker 1: What's up?

01:31:22
Speaker 3: What's up? Rory? Julian? What's up? My black? Hate the marriage? I hate the marriage.

01:31:27
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna lie.

01:31:28
Speaker 2: I think they should record the whole podcash just looking at you. I ain't gonna lie, just just camera on the marriage, all our and forty five of them things.

01:31:37
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna let to you.

01:31:38
Speaker 2: But I'm from Nashwa, Tennessee. Ain't gonna get my name because y'all a big platform. I don't need people on my business.

01:31:44
Speaker 3: But basically, I was raising the child for like a year and a half.

01:31:49
Speaker 2: Come to find out, the little crumb snatch wouldn't even man. So now I'm in a situation where like my mama.

01:31:55
Speaker 1: What did he just refer to crumb snatcher?

01:31:57
Speaker 4: Oh that's cute, Okay.

01:31:59
Speaker 2: It's deal fucking with the girl and the baby like she picking him.

01:32:04
Speaker 3: Up for church. His mom is still fucking with the girl.

01:32:06
Speaker 2: And shit like it, And like I'm mad because I feel like this this girl is still getting the the bonuses of being like like attached to me when it's really fuck her. Like I really don't like this situation. But at the same time, like I know my mama really cares about the little boy and anything. So like, should I stand on being this and tell my mama to stop fucking with them? Or should I, like, you know, just let the situation play out and just grin and berry because I do understand that, like a child can't have too many support systems. So and I definitely love the little boy still, so I still want him to have that support system. But like I just I don't know how would y'all approach the situation.

01:32:54
Speaker 3: I just want to know how y'all think about it.

01:32:56
Speaker 4: You gotta take that right, Yeah, that was a long.

01:33:04
Speaker 5: Wanting to still be in the child's life. But I mean a woman lied to you about a kid being yours.

01:33:11
Speaker 4: Well maybe should know.

01:33:13
Speaker 7: Excuse me, maybe she didn't know. That's even worse.

01:33:17
Speaker 1: No, I think lying is worse.

01:33:19
Speaker 7: Yeah.

01:33:19
Speaker 5: I think if you had sex with somebody while me and you were having sex, and then you're pregnant, I think that should just be something. If you know you weren't wearing protection with this other gentleman. I think that's just a conversation we need to have before the baby is here.

01:33:31
Speaker 4: I agree, And because one and a half he's he said one and a half yeah, yeah, like you should do that that swab like yeah, like you know, yeah, can.

01:33:39
Speaker 3: You imagine maybe? Like was like, well, yeah, well I got nineteen months in.

01:33:43
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I actually asked Rory that question. I wonder if Rory's willing to share what he said he would do. Are you willing to share that?

01:33:51
Speaker 4: Oh, Maul and I are on the same page when it comes to this type of stuff. I said, no, see, but we had a similar voicemail like this before.

01:33:58
Speaker 1: But when I brought up a I'm like, Amara, bro, you're not gonna just He's like, bro, like.

01:34:03
Speaker 4: There's no way I watch him a distance. Yeah, it's not it's not my baby anymore.

01:34:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm on that. I'm kind that, I'm on that.

01:34:12
Speaker 3: I'm on that head.

01:34:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, because with this nigga he had bottle walls or something with will call that like old nigga. I'm sitting here and loving his kid, and you know what I'm saying, and I need a reet waking up, like you know, the baby wake up in the middle of night. I get up, take care of the baby. Like this nigga just getting home from the club. You fuck that, Come get your kid. Man, I'm not taking care of his baby. No, I'm not doing that.

01:34:36
Speaker 3: Sorry.

01:34:36
Speaker 4: I kind of feel and we won't say his name, I kind of feel him when he was talking about his mom, like you don't now get to get all these great resources from us, Like to what Maul's saying, if that dude ends up being like a piece of shit or whatever, like now all of a sudden, it's our responsibility because he doesn't know what the fuck to do.

01:34:55
Speaker 1: But he never said that. Though he never said that the other father wasn't in the life. If I unless I've misheard that, He just said that the girl likes going to church with his mom, and the girl and the baby like going to church with his mom. That's not an incredible research resource, it's God. Like, I don't she still has a relationship with the.

01:35:11
Speaker 5: Mom, and my sister wanted to still be cool with the girl and the baby, like, I mean, that's that's their decision. But it's no longer my responsibility to take kids.

01:35:20
Speaker 1: And I don't think I don't think she's I don't think that he even put that across, but he was.

01:35:23
Speaker 5: Saying like she's still you know, he say he loves the little boy, and you know he doesn't want the little boy to not have support systems. But that's because you can be honorable, You could be you know, your moral compass can be intact all of those things. But looking at a child that you know is not yours, like you just found out, and you like at one point thought that was your seed and was loving them, it is your emotions changed towards that child. You still, I mean, not a piece of shit person. You're still gonna make sure the child is good. That's what you choose to do. But it changes something in you when you start to look at that kid and like, Yo, this she didn't even like, this is not even my son, Like that's crazy.

01:35:59
Speaker 4: And I fully, fully believe in step siblings, step parents. I think that can be just as equal as love and viewed as that is my kid. But when it's a situation like this, yeah, I think that changes how you would feel about the entire situation and start questioning yourself about everything. Like anytime you see that baby, of course you love the baby because the baby's been there a year and a half, a parent's love from what they viewed it. But now it's a reminder of questioning everything that's going on between your love for that kid and your entire surrounding. Yeah, like if this was a lie, you know, I don't I don't know if I could even look at this kid the same because that's just a reminder of a betrayal instead of love.

01:36:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no fault of the kids, it's this kid just reminds me of Geor, Like I every time I see this, I'm gonna think of you dragging me through all this bullshit that wasn't even like it was not it was not not mine, And then I'm always going to be thinking of you, the woman that this fucking mess happen, Like, no, I would, I'm on your side, remove myself completely.

01:37:07
Speaker 7: I think, I don't.

01:37:08
Speaker 4: I don't fault anyone if they didn't do that, Like that's everyone's own decision, no judgment to anyone. Like I can also totally see somebody loving their kid and finding out it's not theirs and still being like, yeah, I want to stay. I love this kid, But I.

01:37:23
Speaker 3: Don't understand that I would make my mom stop hanging out with them too.

01:37:27
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I don't know. I just look at this situation and it's just a reminder of like the way that women and men love children. And this isn't me bashing men, just the way that women and men view love when it comes to like familiar and like nurturing is just so completely.

01:37:44
Speaker 4: Well obviously because that baby I'm not, I'm not.

01:37:49
Speaker 1: Part of you, that there is no question that I'm not even talking about the ownership of the baby, even in the in the areas of like step parents and things like that. I just from what I've seen in my life, what I've experienced, just the way that women and men but.

01:38:01
Speaker 3: Stepparents is different.

01:38:02
Speaker 5: Because if I meet that. If I meet you you have a kid and we're dating, and you know we're in love. Now obviously you have a kid. I'm gonna love your kid and you know, raise your kid as well.

01:38:12
Speaker 1: Unless I cheat. But if I cheat on you, if I cheat on you with the kids father, then what do you still love the kid? Do you still have that same relationship with the kid?

01:38:20
Speaker 3: No?

01:38:21
Speaker 5: Right, I mean it depends its how long how long will we be together? Like how old is this kid? If this kid is not a year, you know what I mean. It's like but now we've been together four years and you and your child we've lived together for four years of course, Like that's this there's a connection there with me and the kid already, even if the kid is not mine. But I went into it knowing that the kid is in mind because you was you had a kid when I met you. Now, if I'm thinking this kid is mine, we're together, you're pregnant with you do your pregnancy, and it come to find out that's not my kid, I feel like I've been betrayed the entire relationship. So it's a different level of emotion there where it's like step kid.

01:38:59
Speaker 3: I know it's not kid.

01:39:01
Speaker 5: With you get pregnant, I feel like this is my kid. Find out it's not my kid. I don't know what to believe and trust for me. Now, that's that's what the difference is at And to.

01:39:09
Speaker 4: Your point of this step parent cheating scenario, that's why dating with kids is such high stakes. You're a piece of shit parent if your kid has fallen in love with your new partner looks at them like a step mother. If I go and cheat, I know the steaks are so high that this other mother figure will now have to be taken away from my daughter. So yet, like that really falls on the parents side. You can't be mad at the person, like damn, I got cheated on. I don't want to be in this relationship anymore, but I'll stick with it because they have a kid that I love. Like, no, but not even what you shouldn't be cheating because you know I'm gonna leave and now your your daughter is now gonna have another person leave them.

01:39:53
Speaker 1: But I agree, But N see, that's and that was the difference that I was bringing up, because you can leave me, but if you it's this love word that we keep throwing out and it's like, do we really love? Because when I look at love, I look at love as being unconditional. Love is being unconditional. My presence might not be unconditional, but the love is unconditional. So you're telling me that if we're in a relationship and I do something, I turn out to be a horrible person whatever, and I for some reason, we have to break up this kid that you've lived with for like Mam said, let's say four years you leave me, you are now Also your cutting connection.

01:40:26
Speaker 4: With my kid steaks is high.

01:40:28
Speaker 1: See, And that's that was my point that I was making. I'm not saying that you're wrong for that. I just look at that like, uh, do you did you ever really love my kid? If you're able to just never speak to my kid ever again because you don't want a relationship with me, then did you ever really love my kid? Or was this a part of me that you just accepted? Because that's not love.

01:40:44
Speaker 5: That's so people that I've dated, that I've loved that I don't will never speak to again. That doesn't mean I don't love them. That doesn't mean I don't I never love them. It just means like our relationship, our time is ended. And now you're obviously in another situation relationship, and.

01:40:57
Speaker 1: It's like that they're not a kid. I'm talking about a kid innocent.

01:41:00
Speaker 3: Even as a kid.

01:41:01
Speaker 5: It's like if you're if I, if I go into a relationship and you get pregnant and we're together, and I feel like, oh, she's having my that's my kid, that's my son, and he come to find out it's not as hard like that level of trust and but yeah, it's like that is no, we get that we're talking about.

01:41:16
Speaker 4: But that that scenario, Yes, if I love you and also love your kid, but then you cheat on me and I want to leave.

01:41:25
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in this relationship because you cheated on me. I still love you, but I know I have to leave.

01:41:28
Speaker 4: Like I don't think anyone that's ever been cheated on immediately stopped loving the person when they found out. They just decided this is not gonna work because I love them, I'm going to leave. Why can't that be the same with the child too, Because parents and kids are a package deal. So what's wrong with leaving the person that you were with the cheated on you. You love them, but I'm leaving, So I'm also leaving the kid.

01:41:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same your action that led to this. It's not I'm not the bad guy because I have to walk. No, no, no, it's not. But it's like you your actions in turn made me have to do the following, which part of that is ultimately having to walk from the kid as well.

01:42:08
Speaker 4: And it makes that cheating again. Stakes are even higher because now I'm looking at you like a right, you knew you are not only risking me by going to cheat, knowing that I would leave if I catch you, You're also risking this bond I formed with your child. Yeah no, and that's so now I'm looking at you like, all right, so you risked me and your child.

01:42:32
Speaker 1: I also think that people aren't really having it. I think you're giving people more credit when they're going to do stupid things. I agree with, But I think they're giving people too much credit when they.

01:42:41
Speaker 4: Go to do stupid things. That I'm sure, but we are all adults, and every decision we make we have to deal with the concept. I don't care if you were going into it not thinking you're an adult, you should have been thinking.

01:42:51
Speaker 1: I think I think my point the stakes is high. My point got lost in this, and I think we keep getting caught up. I feel like you should not enter any child's life period if you are not willing to continue to especially if that child starts to rely on you, if you are not willing to continue to be in that child's life, regardless of any situation, you can leave a parent and so people co parent all the time. So don't acting like you can't co parent your step kid is I've been in relations It is different, but only if you may. It's different, but it shouldn't. It doesn't have to be that different. I real fall that, but we're not. That's not that I don't know, but that's not No, it doesn't matter.

01:43:28
Speaker 7: That does that child.

01:43:31
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter.

01:43:31
Speaker 4: No, let's say they passed away. Let's not make it less some nasty shit.

01:43:34
Speaker 3: Okay, they passed Unfortunately they passed away in a bottle war.

01:43:37
Speaker 1: Even but even if they did, even if they didn't, people form different. But like, for example, I love Amara. If Rory fired me today, me and him never were friends again. Do you think that I would go my whole life without trying to at least attempt to see Amara. That is no, because that would mean that I to me that means that you never really loved her in the beginning, You never really planned on having a bond with her to begin with. Like, I'm not gonna abandon her because I'm abandoned her father. Fuck her father. I'll call somebody else like respectfully, but like that's how I love disrespect Yeah, but like that's that's how I love kid. You know what I'm saying. Like I've had friends that I've fallen out with, but like their kids can still call me. It's still up with your mom, but your kid, the kids can still call me. That's the type of love that I give out and that I've received from women. All I'm saying is that from men, I see that that tends to be a little different. That was my regin.

01:44:26
Speaker 4: You think there's a scenario where it's okay for a guy to go date a woman with a child and just accept that rather than love that child unconditionally.

01:44:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think you should be as far as marriage, I don't think you should take a man seriously. Who's you can tell if a man's tolerating and accepting your child versus loving them, you can tell.

01:44:48
Speaker 7: I mean, some of y'all got some kids. It's hard to love.

01:44:50
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's what I was saying, Like I could love, I could love you, but like the more I get.

01:44:55
Speaker 3: To know your kid, kid, that is true. We're assuming the kid is good. That's yeah.

01:45:00
Speaker 1: I brought that question up, because what the good kid and what's a bad Oh?

01:45:04
Speaker 3: We know the bad kids.

01:45:06
Speaker 5: The niggas, they got the silver caps and the teeth already, themb little niggas we could Yo, I'm not keeping in touch with Little Ryan.

01:45:13
Speaker 4: You pop the balloon, raise him before he robs me in fifteen years.

01:45:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm cool. He'll be in the penitentiary in twelve years. Don't worry about him.

01:45:22
Speaker 4: Then we have the house to ourselves.

01:45:24
Speaker 7: We can't save them, olt the marriage. We got to come to that realization.

01:45:26
Speaker 3: Every child cannot, cannot, and will already saved.

01:45:30
Speaker 4: George Bush put me in the No Child Left Behind program.

01:45:32
Speaker 7: Man, fuck that.

01:45:33
Speaker 3: A lot of you know, I mean niggas in that program in jail right now, trust me.

01:45:37
Speaker 7: Oh.

01:45:39
Speaker 4: I was having a conversation name drop with Jay Electronica over the weekend. You guys make fun of me for going to space camp in New Orleans. He went to Projects Star and it was the same program. Like I felt, I felt like much better about myself based off the laughs you guys give me with my Space Camp.

01:45:58
Speaker 1: I mean, it's ja electronica. You act like it was a fucking pharmacist that say I went to Space Camp too. Should a fellow autism person, like.

01:46:06
Speaker 4: One of the greatest artists of all time? Yeah, the same program.

01:46:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, artists, but we're probably both on the spectrum.

01:46:12
Speaker 4: It's probably where we're both there. Project Star is way harder than Space Camp. I was kind of tight that Louis Louisiana calls.

01:46:19
Speaker 5: It that Jay is still in space That's what I'm like, Well, the projects start, I mean, everything is you.

01:46:24
Speaker 7: He lives there.

01:46:25
Speaker 5: Oh, he's a project side of UFO, side the University of projects there to find the motion exactly.

01:46:32
Speaker 4: I love you Jay.

01:46:33
Speaker 1: If we're wrapping this up, what advice are we giving him? As far as the baby going to church with his mama, I think all kind of that.

01:46:40
Speaker 5: If they should know that, if the mother and and that's you know, I don't know, if it's sister, whatever, if they wanted to still have a relationship with that with the child, I can understand that, but I can on the same hand, understand how he doesn't want to continue that relationship because it's just a certain level of betrayal there and a certain level of you know, dishonesty that I think is very hard for some people to recover from because I don't think you ever look at that woman the same way. Again, you don't, you don't believe anything out of her mouth at that point.

01:47:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he got lucky get out of there.

01:47:11
Speaker 4: A year and a half. I mean that's still a lot of time. So you love your child the moment.

01:47:15
Speaker 3: They're a lot of time.

01:47:16
Speaker 5: And and again you gotta understand he you know, it's not for him, but it's you know, that's just a I can I can understand if he decided to no longer keep that relationship going.

01:47:26
Speaker 4: And I don't think he should feel bad about himself if he's tough for him, because again, year and a half, I can speak to. This is when you just start to get to know your kid like they're now a person with feelings and like reactions and it's not just something that's been sitting on a boob and making cute faces like this is a person now. Yeah, so that can obviously be tough because love changes once you know you actually know the personality. Yeah, I have a cry challenge for Mall to double back on his point of never crying. Be a man, Shut the fuck up. I challenge Mall to watch the YouTube videos of the kids asking their step parents to adopt them. Oh my god, you're a sociopath. If you can watch those videos and not all out crying. They are the most beautiful videos I've ever seen in my life.

01:48:16
Speaker 7: I've seen some of them.

01:48:17
Speaker 4: It's it's up there with the dogs in the army of Oh stop my heart. I'm telling the can you Adopt Me? Videos?

01:48:26
Speaker 5: It's called I don't think I would cry from that. I would cry from watching like adopting puppies and shit like that more than I would like. That to me, is a little more pulls on the heart strings.

01:48:37
Speaker 4: There is when Raheem got shot.

01:48:39
Speaker 1: There's a series going on on TikTok right now with football players from like low income schools going up to their favorite the teacher that or the staff member that impacted them the most and letting them wear the jersey for game day. So like they will walk up to the teacher with the jersey and like the teacher start crying, and shit, that had me like crying.

01:48:59
Speaker 5: I don't know if I cried. Yo, who was the record, because like y'all wasn't ship. I'm not wearing your jersey. If I'm just to your teacher, I'm like, yo.

01:49:05
Speaker 3: Get out of here. You got it fifty yards on a year the fuck away from me on.

01:49:08
Speaker 4: The ear, like like, get away from It's week twelve and you have fifty rushing yards on the season.

01:49:17
Speaker 5: You can't catch you dropped the pass last week to go to states, Like, get out of here.

01:49:21
Speaker 3: I'm not wearing your fucking jersey. Yeah.

01:49:23
Speaker 4: Not everything is the plot to Blindside?

01:49:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, like what.

01:49:27
Speaker 3: Speaking of crying, you guys remember ty Pennington's Dream Home Makeover. Yeah? Man, my family used to get together and cry with these fucking things. These shows were so emotional.

01:49:38
Speaker 7: Julian cries, somebody get their kitchen done over this.

01:49:40
Speaker 3: No, no, they were knocked out the hole.

01:49:44
Speaker 4: If you admitted I'm gonna be right there with that ship makes me tear it up to.

01:49:49
Speaker 3: Your niggas cry they get a new hell. Yeah, knocked down the whole hole, and they'll be like move that buzz and then it's like ty Penning, Remember.

01:49:58
Speaker 4: And then like you see the kids freak out and.

01:50:00
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, that shit was so emotional.

01:50:03
Speaker 4: Speaking of George Clooney, I think it's Ocean's twelve when Brad Pitt goes into George Clooney's hotel room and he has a glass of wine. I think he was watching this show. Yeah, and he's like crying and Brad pists like, are you right?

01:50:15
Speaker 3: No, it was Oprah. They were watching Oprah thing, but it was like.

01:50:17
Speaker 4: A makeover for a house, and George Clean was like, it's about the kids.

01:50:21
Speaker 7: At the end of the day, I'm not crying at that shit.

01:50:25
Speaker 3: That and the uh, the one where the boss undercover boss, that's just more funny. It can be funny, but there were also episodes where it would get emotional and the guy's like, you know, I've been working on the assembly line for like fifty years, and then the boss would come in and be like you said, you were talking about your kids and they have student loans and you're working overtime to you know, pay for this and groceries and everything, and he would just like literally like take the helmet off a hand in a check and be like everything's fixed now, Like ah, come on, how.

01:50:56
Speaker 4: Many times you think can't go back to People watch that show and like in their real life suspect somebody that maybe they're on the show right now and like lean into it and it ends up just being just like their cowork They get all their hopes up.

01:51:10
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. Will Smith almost got me though, in the Pursuit of Happiness he almost got Oh.

01:51:14
Speaker 7: My god, I almost got you.

01:51:16
Speaker 5: At the end boo, yeah, he almost got me. I started crashing, Will you, son of a bitch, You almost got me.

01:51:23
Speaker 1: I am legend.

01:51:24
Speaker 3: Pounds?

01:51:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am legend. When he's strangling the dog, Oh my god, don't care. Will has a lot of tear jerker movies. Seven pounds.

01:51:31
Speaker 7: Like when he tried to kill that fucking zombie.

01:51:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, yeah, just only either German, I know. And that's why it was so sad. That was his best friend and he has to kill his best friend to save the world. Like sometimes No, it was when it was when it was like six endings, he still didn't.

01:51:47
Speaker 1: It was when he was about to throw the bomb and like kill himself to save like the girl with the Anybody's and it was the butterfly and his daughter was like, look, daddy a butterfly and they flashed back. Oh my god, the tears.

01:52:00
Speaker 3: Don't know a daughter or son, you guys, it was it was Willow damn.

01:52:06
Speaker 7: I mean Jayden looks like that. Their brothers. Anyway, do you.

01:52:11
Speaker 3: Guys cry when you watched Uh, this is so random, you guys. Remember Adam Sandler's click.

01:52:16
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that movie.

01:52:18
Speaker 4: Didn't bring me. They didn't make him cry.

01:52:21
Speaker 1: When his dad died or something like that. He couldn't like rewind or something.

01:52:26
Speaker 4: It was an emotional scene.

01:52:27
Speaker 3: Go back into that ship got I'm like, oh, Adam Sandler, let's watch a family laugh. And I ended up crying.

01:52:31
Speaker 1: But that actually that I'm happy I watched that movie when I was younger. There's really good lessons in that movie, Like, yeah, it is a great Like the whole purpose of life is the hard ship. That's the whole purpose.

01:52:43
Speaker 3: That's Kendrick said in the interview.

01:52:45
Speaker 4: And and don't always work all the time, like you ignore your family and everything you actually want because you're trying to do your architect podcast.

01:52:51
Speaker 3: Lil Wayne said, I can do this ship from my click, Like Adam Sandler, I don't remember I control hip hop and I'm gonna keep it on my channel that after you said that five bathrooms, I could ship all day, different song but same era.

01:53:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, do we have another voicemail?

01:53:07
Speaker 4: Oh?

01:53:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask you guys, you want something like depressed that we could try to make.

01:53:10
Speaker 7: Fun crying here?

01:53:12
Speaker 1: Man?

01:53:12
Speaker 3: Should we go down to Sup and let's see what advice.

01:53:16
Speaker 4: You didn't hear what he actually said to depressed ship that we can make fun of.

01:53:20
Speaker 3: That said that we can try to make fun of. Oh it is sad, it's a depressing voicement, or we can just do something that's lighter.

01:53:28
Speaker 7: I want to see. I want to get sad, all right, Yeah, let's I won't cry here. That's easy.

01:53:35
Speaker 6: Hello everybody, I'm just gonna get straight to it. Oh can you not see my name? Thank you?

01:53:41
Speaker 4: I mean it says in the last two months.

01:53:43
Speaker 6: My life has been terrible. I got a hand injury that don't sound crazy, excellent medical bills pillowing up. I have insurance, but I don't I don't know, just not working and I fell into the question. So I've pretty much just been homosex with anything. Went from three bodies at twenty five to like nine in two months.

01:54:09
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's crazy, but no, baby, fuck through the pain.

01:54:13
Speaker 3: Bro also just.

01:54:16
Speaker 6: Unfortunately got infected with HSB two.

01:54:20
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was fucking Goocy Thurley from.

01:54:23
Speaker 1: Her pause the music, stop what we're not doing that?

01:54:28
Speaker 3: I didn't do it well in Atlanta. There's a high chance it was probably one of his residuals.

01:54:33
Speaker 4: Also, someone DM me over the weekend.

01:54:35
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna leave her alone.

01:54:37
Speaker 4: Of course, I'm not even gonna give it any hints. Somebody we know DMed me and said that she almost fucked that guy and was listening to the podcast and was like, yo, thank god two years ago when I was about to beat I didn't I know her?

01:54:52
Speaker 7: No, thank god?

01:54:54
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean you've spoken to her?

01:54:58
Speaker 3: I said, no. Hints, No, they couldn't hear that.

01:55:01
Speaker 4: He has the headphones on page. Could anyone hear you talk?

01:55:05
Speaker 3: No? All right, cool, Well, yeah you've met her before.

01:55:08
Speaker 4: This girl, this man just.

01:55:09
Speaker 1: Said that he is depressed, broke and fucked up and now he has herpes. Why are we we can't laugh at this?

01:55:18
Speaker 3: Why said? We can try to laugh? So let's continue. It doesn't end on a happy note. Let's go.

01:55:23
Speaker 4: I didn't think this was gonna take a lessons.

01:55:25
Speaker 6: Just been on all the pollen and I just stopped caring. And yeah, I don't want to do anything with anybody because I'm gonna effect. I don't want to affect anyone, and I can't really afford to do the things that I like doing, so I've just been working and yeah, so I just want to know what should I do?

01:55:47
Speaker 3: And thank you. That's it.

01:55:50
Speaker 1: I really am about to cry. I didn't want I didn't think that this would actually make me cry. That it's so fucking sad.

01:55:57
Speaker 4: I can answer. I can answer him as someone that has fucked through the pain and realized that's not a solution to dealing with your problems. I think it's a time to reevaluate you see that did not work, and search other solutions in getting out of this feeling in this hole that you're in. Sometimes we have to try shit and fail at it to realize that that's not the path. Fucking through the pain was not it trying to trying to just take everything that's happening to you and get a distraction by just having a fucking orgasm with a stranger to feel good. For two seconds is not the solution. So we know that now, and unfortunately there was something added into that scenario. But what's done is done, and clearly that's not a solution for you. So we can check that off the list and start looking at healthier ways to get out of this hole. Because I've tried to find plenty of ways to get out of depression, whether it be substance abuse, just a bunch of different things that made you feel good for the moment, and then you start to feel way shittier and you realize, all right, man, I need to stop right now and find healthier ways to get through this entire thing. That's usually when you start to find the ones that are healthier. Everyone's different, So I'm not sure what that will be for him, but he does know going that route is not going to get it done whatsoever. Anything that's codependence and sex is one of those. Sex is advice as well. Vices will not get you out of those holes.

01:57:27
Speaker 3: So I would start looking into healthier options, and like what healthier options?

01:57:32
Speaker 2: Like what?

01:57:33
Speaker 4: Again, everyone is different. Starting with exercise, I think is across the board one of the absolute best ways. I think reading is an absolute great way and there's so much to pick from therapy therapy.

01:57:47
Speaker 5: Let me finist. Sorry, no betterhelp dot com use code Rorymaul.

01:57:53
Speaker 4: For yeah, I would start there again. It's tough when you don't know anything about a person because everyone deals with this type of shit, yeah, differently, and everyone has different solutions. But exercise, reading, getting outside, necessarily have to be around people, But just being outside and outdoors I think changes your mood like you would not believe.

01:58:15
Speaker 7: I think that's a super important one. That was one thing I liked about the Kendrick when you said he runs every morning. I can understand that. I think I could see that in Kendrick, like he seems. He comes across as the type of person that likes to be alone a lot. And obviously running and exercising helps with your mental health and things like that as well obviously your physical health. But I could see you know, like you said, exercising, being outdoors, you know, finding a good therapist, somebody you can talk to, finding your passions, creatively, getting into things that you know you never did, trying different things.

01:58:50
Speaker 5: I think anything to just keep your mind moving and your body moving is a big help. But to answer your question, yes, You absolutely have so much to live for and to be here for. You have so much to add to this world. So yeah, definitely, just find yourself, man, don't look for, you know, outlets in other places or through other people. You know you're more than You're more than enough. You have everything you need within yourself. Just you know, tap into yourself a little bit more. That's what it sounds like.

01:59:16
Speaker 1: And sorry a.

01:59:17
Speaker 4: Second, I know that he said he has health insurance, but I know he said he's going through a bit of a financial burden. You shouldn't feel bad about that. Everyone does have those moments. Shouldn't feel embarrassed. But people that go through like traumatic events like car accidents, talk with your doctor. Especially since you have insurance, they can point you in the right direction for mental care after that because a lot of times after accidents people are traumatized PTSD. Your actual medical doctor can point you in the right direction with your insurance to go get free mental health care.

01:59:51
Speaker 3: So I would I would talk to your doctor.

01:59:54
Speaker 1: As far as the HSV two. Your sex life is not over. Your life is not over. I know people that have that condition. First of all, A lot more people haven't than y'all would think it is so common because a lot of people have it and they're not even We've talked about this, they're not even aware that they have it, and they're out here just living their best lives. Like I said, right now, I don't think that sex needs to be your focus, not because of your disease, but because of everything else that you have. What I will say is that when you are mentally ready to deal with sex, well, first of all, now you have insurance, go get on. I think it's called it's a medicine that starts with a A.

02:00:37
Speaker 3: Is that not what she said?

02:00:40
Speaker 1: I didn't finish pronouncing it, but I don't know the complete name of it. There is a medicine that you can take to make you be way less symptomatic and prevent the spread of it to other people. So go get on that medicine. When you're mentally ready to have sex again, just you. I promise you you can find a partner who to has HSB two or someone who is willing to have sex with you as long as you're on the right medication. So when it's time to think about that, just note that your sex life is not over. You will have great sex. You're very young. That part of your life is not over, so don't feel so much shame and guilt. I know it's still early right now, so you will. But just everything will be okay, I promise you.

02:01:21
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the to your physical ailment, Like with your hand, people get hurt, accidents happen. That stuff isn't permanent, it's temporary. Your hand will get fixed. Like to Demerius's point, there's things you can do that'll help with the HSV two as well, but don't look at everything like a pileon and there's no way out. The reason why, to be quite frank like, the reason why you feel you might feel so bad now is because you know what it feels like to not feel like that. So you also have to acknowledge like you have had highs and moments where you've been happier and in a better place. Just know that life again is not you know, a singular trajectory. It's very much this and know that right now you may be in a rut. I would also implore you to if not therapy is not your thing, family friends, don't feel like you're alone, Moll suggested. If you don't want to talk to people, it's really easy to be depressed and just kind of hold it in. But if if you want to get outside, like connecting with nature, if it's not yourself, then just make it something that's more than yourself. So it just sounds so gay, but like whatever, Like get a plant, like get something where you have to be in charge of it, and you're taking care of something, and you'd be surprised what results that'll yield to someone's mental health. I literally call my plants my babies, and I mean it. I'm gay, but like it's a real thing. So just you know, to find those things as well. I'm not saying go out there and lift a shit a ton of weights and like get ripped, because that's not that you're not in that mental state to be motivated to do anything to that extent. Just start small, and I will say, look, DM, I'll answer DM me, I'll FaceTime you. We can jump on a video call. I've done that before for some people that have left voicemails that they didn't want read, I'm more than willing to talk. I as someone that admittedly and has spoken pretty openly on this pod, try to do enough drugs and funck his way into a state where I wouldn't wake up, I got out. So shit, You know, people, this stuff's real and you're not alone, so you know, keep called back, let's talk whatever, we'll you know, figure this out.

02:03:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to other people who may be feeling you might not have the same exact situation, but you might feel lost or feel like you're lacking in two of the areas he mentioned, which one would be sex and the other one would be money. As somebody who doesn't have much of either right now, I'm telling you that it will help you figure out there is so much more to life. There is so much more to life than the shit that people write songs about and rap about, which is sex and money. Like, when you take those two distractions outside. Granted, we need money to live and that will always be a stress, But when you don't put it on such a high pedestal and you learn how to live without much of it, then you really learn how to live.

02:04:05
Speaker 4: So that's just I like you, guys, Julian, what if you found out one of those plants had a different father.

02:04:17
Speaker 3: Technically one of mine does. One of mine is a now a friend of mine. A friend of mine propagated it for me. And then I have since then taken it into my.

02:04:24
Speaker 1: Home friend being, I was gonna say, you an IVF fucking plant.

02:04:29
Speaker 4: And also he should be on the up and up. I mean, dude, he was crushing pussy with one hand, like clearly women like him.

02:04:34
Speaker 1: M M, thank you?

02:04:36
Speaker 7: Just stop.

02:04:41
Speaker 3: To go from this look just to break the room. The energy to go from not getting pussy to nearly tripling your rate in like two months with a busted hand, you're doing something right, gotta be charming. He did something. He cast on the most pussy you've ever gotten in your life.

02:04:58
Speaker 4: And also some Yeah, but that's a separate we're talking about, just like he.

02:05:02
Speaker 1: Could have had sex with one person and call that that doesn't.

02:05:04
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, I know, but just you know, keep that in mind to me you're talking about. Yeah, look, you were crushing them.

02:05:10
Speaker 3: What was trying to give a positive like people even with one hands? People still like you?

02:05:14
Speaker 1: Yeah?

02:05:14
Speaker 3: No, for sure. So on one hand, did they all sign his sound fine? Too?

02:05:19
Speaker 1: So all right, he sounds fine?

02:05:23
Speaker 3: But I know voices, voices, voices, the marags, no voice, she know a nigga find she hear?

02:05:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, Ray, Charles, why are.

02:05:37
Speaker 3: You like.

02:05:39
Speaker 1: Had the arm, but that's see he he had to touch. I don't even need to touch. I can see to hear.

02:05:45
Speaker 7: Ray want to know how heavy you is.

02:05:47
Speaker 3: It's a big mama, right but see light Bob would have sucked him up.

02:05:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the ms be fat. But that asked me nice to that wats me small? You gotta get my arms sucked.

02:05:56
Speaker 4: I saw the funniest sweet over the weekend. Somebody to me, I can't wait to see Big Meach's reaction to BBLS in Atlanta. And then I started to think about it. They weren't they weren't really around, and it's gonna see a whole new world.

02:06:12
Speaker 1: And then somebody read somebody was like no, somebody was like, gonna be so disappointed when he come out and see all these bagging ass women. And this girl was like, no, I think he's gonna be more disappointed to see seventeen niggas. I don't want hookah.

02:06:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna shut him back. Yeah, that's gonna shut him back once you see that, once you see how these niggas is partying.

02:06:29
Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, I saw a bb at the airport. They still those things still suck the life out of a room. It's comically bad. Most of them.

02:06:38
Speaker 7: Yeah, some of them are nice, very rare.

02:06:42
Speaker 1: I've seen some, baby, I've seen some.

02:06:44
Speaker 7: Of them a nice.

02:06:44
Speaker 5: Some of them get it done right. They go to the right doctor. Like, they don't go crazy. They don't want to look a cartoon.

02:06:49
Speaker 3: Oh look crazy.

02:06:51
Speaker 1: That's just the Bronx girls, no disrespect.

02:06:54
Speaker 7: Got nice when we ain't doing that.

02:06:55
Speaker 1: There's something but you know what the fuck I'm talking about, mam. But you go to the strip club in the you know, from the Bronx, them Dominican girls in the Bronx going get the largest ass they can find.

02:07:06
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's the you know, the ones that are not so mentally sharp, that as sharp as the knife thing.

02:07:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the one. They just think that just men want anything, and it's like not all of us are the same man. Some of us like normal looking women, not cartoons.

02:07:21
Speaker 4: So oh, I forgot to tell you before we close. Peach saw me in a rare airport form. Well not rare.

02:07:27
Speaker 3: He saw me in my airport form, like when I get on my ship.

02:07:32
Speaker 4: We were going to TSA and there was like a family in front of us, and there was a guy but I thought it was just to the line that was at that TSA part, not like the seventeen of the lines that were over there. So I start walking and the TSA agent goes stay like a dog, and I, you know, all his son of Jake feelings started coming up with you. I said, you want me to roll over to.

02:08:00
Speaker 1: I would just now she deserves that those stay is crazy.

02:08:02
Speaker 7: I would have balked at him.

02:08:04
Speaker 4: I actually double checked with Peage first because he was still talking to the family. Was like, did he just say tell me to stay? Like I had to make sure I wasn't hearing things that a grown man just said stay to me.

02:08:13
Speaker 3: Stay is crazy.

02:08:14
Speaker 4: I was pissed. Yeah, but you know federal offenses different countries around. Yeah, like in Houston, I would have like, I would enjoyed the stay.

02:08:22
Speaker 5: You couldn't give me your best material and not a border, not because it was Toronto for America.

02:08:29
Speaker 7: Yeah, not at the Toronto.

02:08:30
Speaker 3: No.

02:08:30
Speaker 5: I don't don't play no games, bro, I'm fucking around. It's like, I'm an American, sir, But you talk to me that way, all right? Just let me through this fucking let me through this gate right here.

02:08:39
Speaker 3: Don't you know?

02:08:39
Speaker 4: I'm American.

02:08:40
Speaker 5: Yeah that Tickets available now new roryanmaul dot com. We will be in Atlanta November twenty second, and then home New York City the end of the year December fourteenth at the grammar Sy Theater. Tickets available now. I hope to see y'all soon. Thank you a getting to everybody that came out to Toronto. Had a great time.

02:08:57
Speaker 7: Yep.

02:08:58
Speaker 5: Good to see everybody. Good to see some familiar faith, good to meet some new people. Shout out to Marie. Lovely Marie.

02:09:03
Speaker 3: Spaghetti and Meatball.

02:09:04
Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, we need that stuff. It's in one of our merch bags.

02:09:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, she did a great job. She has some beautiful cards and stuff like that.

02:09:14
Speaker 5: If you ever want to send somebody a nice card around the holidays, birthdays, whatever, check out Spaghetti and Meatballs on Instagram. Shout out talk girl Marie. She was dope, had some amazing gifts.

02:09:24
Speaker 4: The T shirt that gave you so, I was gonna wear it today. I would be wearing it on Thursday. It's in my suitcase.

02:09:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the one you post that's so cute.

02:09:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna wear it today. And Rory cried twice in Toronto He cried when they gave him the T shirt, which was was dope. It was so cute, and then he cried at the end of the show when somebody asked the question. He was like, Yo, my favorite thing from working with ma A the last few years is watching his relationship with my daughter.

02:09:54
Speaker 7: He almost started crying on stage.

02:09:55
Speaker 4: Oh, that was a really nice answer to that question. I think the original question was what's your favorite quality about mal within working with him? And I said how he treats my daughter in their relationship, like Tomorrow runs Tomorrow every time he's wanted to crowd the whole weekend.

02:10:09
Speaker 1: She likes black people, but that's that's that's sweet.

02:10:12
Speaker 3: She likes black To close the lit, we were nervous in the beginning.

02:10:16
Speaker 1: You know, she definitely she liked me and mall more than she likes you.

02:10:20
Speaker 4: There was there was like a few studio sessions, like when Jesse Boykins walked there, she was like and then things started to add up and he was like.

02:10:27
Speaker 3: Do you think she's like scared of black people? I was like, no, I don't think that. I am, So it makes sense. I'm scared of niggas. I'll be honest.

02:10:37
Speaker 7: I see niggas outside, I go all the way. Now, yeah, I ain't fighting. I ain't got time for that.

02:10:42
Speaker 3: Every black person walking around I thought, I mean Hawaiians.

02:10:45
Speaker 1: I don't funk with Thewaiians.

02:10:47
Speaker 3: Oh why see some pool Shistyes, I'm calling the cops.

02:10:50
Speaker 4: I think that's standard for everybody.

02:10:51
Speaker 3: I'm calling police. That's you niggas got ski mask on at two and afternoon, I'm calling.

02:10:56
Speaker 1: It's it's July.

02:10:58
Speaker 3: It's the it's the why.

02:11:01
Speaker 1: And you know what stresses me out is what I've realized because my my bonus daughter is about to go into high school soon.

02:11:07
Speaker 5: Bonus, yeah, my ex's daughter. Okay, yeah, yeah, so it's a step and bonus.

02:11:14
Speaker 1: Well bonus and step mean the same thing, but we're not married, so bonus darter bonus kids. But even the kids, she's gonna be going to high school soon maybe I think like a two years, okay, but the kids are starting to dress like what they see, so like they're not they're not the regular young niggas. They're pretty innocent kids, but they have like the the satuels that usually have guns in them, but like they don't have guns in them. They have like skittles, in there and ship right. But it's like y'all are dressing like these niggas that we're terrified of, so we don't really know the difference, Like y'all wearing like ski masks just because y'all cold like, and y'all think it's a trend. It's like, I think you're gonna rob me, So can you just like find a better role model?

02:11:57
Speaker 4: And sometimes like I'd rather be a racist stereotype and alive, then you didn't take the risk every time, Like I'm all right, you can look at me crazy for assuming that, But what if I was right?

02:12:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather not just be I'll just be racist.

02:12:11
Speaker 7: I'll take it.

02:12:12
Speaker 4: But there's there's a lot of white kids that be wearing them shits that I'm terrified of.

02:12:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, it listens.

02:12:17
Speaker 4: Actually, it's a lot of white kids in the mall where I'm like, I'm I'm gonna go back to the food.

02:12:21
Speaker 3: I don't care. I want to go buy a whole bit. The white guy is the scariest guy in the crew.

02:12:25
Speaker 4: There's no telling what he just white guys with shisty's And I'm fourteen years old. I'm turned around.

02:12:30
Speaker 3: I don't care what race you are. If you have on the shisty, I'm calling the police on you period.

02:12:35
Speaker 1: Maybe their faces I have.

02:12:38
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's been dazzled. I don't care what it is. If I can't see who you are, I'm calling the police.

02:12:43
Speaker 1: I bought it for the Beyonce concert. It's like but like it has like stones all over it. But it's a shisty and I have the match in like body suit.

02:12:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, niggas to shoot you in that. Niggas wearing body suits out here killing niggas for sure.

02:12:54
Speaker 3: Nice they killing.

02:12:57
Speaker 7: Niggas in bodies. I don't know if you know that I.

02:13:01
Speaker 3: Killers is wearing bodysuits.

02:13:02
Speaker 4: Now like motorcycle body suits, like just straight like.

02:13:06
Speaker 3: Body suit American old American apparel body suits. Yeah, niggas win.

02:13:09
Speaker 4: Where are they hiding the gun and the snap in the middle?

02:13:14
Speaker 3: Hey yo, all right, the snap. We'll talk to y'all soon. Be saved, be blessed, you have a good week. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger.

02:13:23
Speaker 4: A razor blad under your tongue going into your your guccin a body suit is a wild transition of generations.

02:13:30
Speaker 1: Mall you be on snapping girls. When girls have the bodysuit, snap.

02:13:34
Speaker 3: You might as well keep all those God, all right, I really like that. No,