BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS FROM THE OZARKS | BIGFOOT CONTROLS THE HOG POPULATION (WE HAD TO LEAVE!!!)

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory Bigfoot interview.
<v Speaker 1>On this episode, we have Bill and Stacy from Potosi, Missouri.
<v Speaker 1>Stacey had a bigfoot encounter in Potosi off of the
<v Speaker 1>Big River at a conservation area. Stacy also had a
<v Speaker 1>terrifying experience at a conservation area in Bismarck, Missouri. Bill
<v Speaker 1>also had a terrifying experience and Stacey was also present
<v Speaker 1>during the encounter, and he was in Licking, Missouri off
<v Speaker 1>the Big Piney River when Hoggs came into their camp
<v Speaker 1>and they heard a terrifying scream. I read off Bill's
<v Speaker 1>encounter in the past and it really opened up a
<v Speaker 1>lot of doorways for the channel, and a lot of
<v Speaker 1>people came forward from the Big Piney River area to
<v Speaker 1>talk about their experiences. Mark Twain National Forest. I have
<v Speaker 1>noticed that a majority of the reports that I have
<v Speaker 1>collected throughout the years are coming from the same areas
<v Speaker 1>of Missouri, and I don't believe that is a coincidence.
<v Speaker 1>If you have had a bigfoot or crypted encounter that
<v Speaker 1>you would like to share with me here on Sasquatch Theory,
<v Speaker 1>please get in touch with me at Sasquatch theory at
<v Speaker 1>outlook dot com and if you guys can please subscribe
<v Speaker 1>to the channel and like the video. All right, Stacy,
<v Speaker 1>if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, where we're at, and your Bigfoit encounters from.
<v Speaker 2>The very beginning.
<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm Stacy Jenkerson. I was born here in Potosi,
<v Speaker 3>and no, this is where we're at. And I'm really
<v Speaker 3>avid with the outdoors. I enjoy being outside. I enjoy
<v Speaker 3>being in the woods, I enjoy camping things like that.
<v Speaker 3>And this was the first time and the only time
<v Speaker 3>that I've ever seen Bigfoot was in this place that
<v Speaker 3>we're at. And I had my two children and my
<v Speaker 3>ex husband. We were camping and we were coming down
<v Speaker 3>a trail to get some wood, and my little daughters
<v Speaker 3>they looked up and probably about forty foot away or so.
<v Speaker 3>My my six year old was like my mommy. And
<v Speaker 3>so when she had kind of stutted that out because
<v Speaker 3>she'd stopped and there was there was a fear in
<v Speaker 3>her voice. She had, you know, seen something. So of
<v Speaker 3>course I had looked over that way and my ex husband,
<v Speaker 3>he was in front of us a few paces and
<v Speaker 3>he stopped and looked over where she was looking, and
<v Speaker 3>we were all looking, and suddenly from a cedar tree
<v Speaker 3>up so high, and it was the motion that caught
<v Speaker 3>my eye. There was a large Animal's the only way
<v Speaker 3>to describe a sasquatch, because it's animal. And it fell
<v Speaker 3>from a height and when it landed there was a
<v Speaker 3>loud thump, like a hollow thump, but it was loud
<v Speaker 3>from such a distance, and it it It didn't necessarily
<v Speaker 3>jump so much as it just it fell, and it
<v Speaker 3>like a dead weight fall. And after its body had
<v Speaker 3>absorbed the the landing, it bounded up in the same
<v Speaker 3>motion in such a graceful way. But when it stood,
<v Speaker 3>it was probably every bit of eight eight feet tall
<v Speaker 3>or more. And it was thin. It was a it
<v Speaker 3>was a rangy looking thing. It wasn't big like I,
<v Speaker 3>you know, it ever expected if sasquatch, I expected, you
<v Speaker 3>don't look like a sowred by gorilla, And uh it wasn't.
<v Speaker 3>It was very thin and it had uh, very dark,
<v Speaker 3>almost brown black hair, and it was long and kind
<v Speaker 3>of wavy and matted, and you know, it wasn't like
<v Speaker 3>shining and beautiful in the sun. And it was a
<v Speaker 3>kind of a day similar to this. It was cloudy enough,
<v Speaker 3>but it took just a few leaps away from the
<v Speaker 3>tree and it was gone. It was lost in the woods,
<v Speaker 3>and you could hear it crash it. I don't know
<v Speaker 3>for what distance, cause I can't even begin to calculate
<v Speaker 3>the speed at which it went because the way it
<v Speaker 3>moved was so smart, and these woods are so thick
<v Speaker 3>that it kept the trees at its back. But we
<v Speaker 3>all foresaw that, and so and we, like I said,
<v Speaker 3>we weren't here to hunt South Squatch. We weren't here
<v Speaker 3>to find. We were here to camp. We were coming
<v Speaker 3>to get wood on the trail, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>So it several months before that we had heard, we
<v Speaker 3>had heard on a camping trip, my ex husband and
<v Speaker 3>I this terrifying scream. But this was the only time,
<v Speaker 3>only time since that I have with in broad daylight.
<v Speaker 3>And so I don't know if what we saw was
<v Speaker 3>a juvenile because you know what I mean, for it
<v Speaker 3>just just on the daylight. But again, it was so
<v Speaker 3>close to the trail and the way we had come
<v Speaker 3>up on it, or perhaps because we were the only
<v Speaker 3>people here in this whole camp area. Yeah, so you
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, It probably felt comfortable maybe I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, and kind of see what was happening in
<v Speaker 3>its surroundings.
<v Speaker 4>Do you think it was watching people?
<v Speaker 3>It had to have been as close as it was
<v Speaker 3>to the trail, yeah, I mean it was close. It
<v Speaker 3>was at the edge of where the hardwood start, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was right there.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So you're walking down this trail in a
<v Speaker 1>cedar thicket and your first sign is your daughter being alarmed,
<v Speaker 1>and then she probably saw something. How old was she whenever?
<v Speaker 3>She's six or six when she saw it, right right
<v Speaker 3>around sixty six years old, and it's about it was
<v Speaker 3>about this time of year also, so I mean it
<v Speaker 3>could so there wasn't a lot of leaves in the trees.
<v Speaker 3>It was a clear shot through and it's just there's
<v Speaker 3>no mistaking that what we all saw.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>And did you see the face on the figure or
<v Speaker 1>did you just see the.
<v Speaker 3>Form it fell or when it came out of the
<v Speaker 3>tree it was I saw it from its profile. I
<v Speaker 3>saw it from the side and because it whether a
<v Speaker 3>turner looked at us, I don't you know, there was
<v Speaker 3>probably doing that before whatever spooked it that it ran
<v Speaker 3>from us, But we saw it from its side. And
<v Speaker 3>because the head was a peculiar shape with the hair,
<v Speaker 3>the way the hair came up to the top, it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't rounded like my head is. The way the hair
<v Speaker 3>kind of came up. It was almost almost not conical,
<v Speaker 3>but it was a pinched look at the shape of
<v Speaker 3>the head, and it was such a dark color the
<v Speaker 3>whole of it, like there was there was no identifying
<v Speaker 3>between that profile. And also it it was such a
<v Speaker 3>quick and shocking encounter. You know, you expect to see
<v Speaker 3>deers in the woods. You know, you expect to see
<v Speaker 3>birds in trees or squirrels, but you don't expect to
<v Speaker 3>see something like that. And all I remember for the
<v Speaker 3>most part is that it was it was between its tall,
<v Speaker 3>rangy lean shape. It had long arms, long arms, and
<v Speaker 3>it was graceful, powerful in the way that it bounded
<v Speaker 3>up because I mean it felt it came down from
<v Speaker 3>every bit of probably twelve twelve thirteen feet I mean
<v Speaker 3>a dead fall, and I mean it was graceful. It
<v Speaker 3>was a purposeful landing and it but the hair had
<v Speaker 3>a wave to it. It was straight, I mean, it
<v Speaker 3>was every bit of probably six inches worth a hair,
<v Speaker 3>if not more, but it was waved because it was
<v Speaker 3>it was mad in places, it was dull. It wasn't
<v Speaker 3>you know, there wasn't a beautiful like it didn't know
<v Speaker 3>it was animal hair as far as that when this
<v Speaker 3>thing lived in its environment, and its environment was the woods,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 4>And so do you think it fell out of the
<v Speaker 4>tree or do you think it jumped down?
<v Speaker 3>No, it jumped. It jumped. I just I say fell
<v Speaker 3>because it was it was like a dead fall, you know,
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't There was no it took. I wish I
<v Speaker 3>could describe the way it landed. It landed, leapt almost
<v Speaker 3>within in the same action. It was very it was
<v Speaker 3>animalistic in a way. But there was no taking a
<v Speaker 3>minute to recover, no leaning. It was just that you
<v Speaker 3>could see that its body took, you know, it after
<v Speaker 3>it absorbed the shock. And the way it landed like
<v Speaker 3>it bounded at the same time. It's almost like it
<v Speaker 3>used that and it sprung. It just sprung up with
<v Speaker 3>such a powerful leap. I don't I don't know how
<v Speaker 3>to describe it other than that it was it was
<v Speaker 3>an incredible thing to see, because I mean that was
<v Speaker 3>also shocking to see. It's unnatural for a human form
<v Speaker 3>to do what that did is what it is. I
<v Speaker 3>can't really you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And whenever it sprung up.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was no, it wasn't all force. It didn't
<v Speaker 3>even touch all fours to land on the ground. It
<v Speaker 3>its knees were bent enough to absorb the shock and
<v Speaker 3>there was so much power in the upward lunge. But
<v Speaker 3>it never touched its hands to the ground. Its hands
<v Speaker 3>never touched to the ground. The arms were like this.
<v Speaker 3>When it landed, when its knees bent, the arms kind
<v Speaker 3>of went up like this. And then as it came up,
<v Speaker 3>its arms went back down because I mean because then
<v Speaker 3>it just it took off runing because I remember the arm.
<v Speaker 3>It's just the shape of it. The arms were so long,
<v Speaker 3>you know, because it was lean and the arms were
<v Speaker 3>so long, the legs were so long. It was just
<v Speaker 3>but it was up like a human.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that makes sense, okay. And how tall do
<v Speaker 1>you think the creature was?
<v Speaker 3>Every bit of it had to have been eight foot.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's just kind of my guess from where
<v Speaker 3>I was in relation to the to the tree and
<v Speaker 3>the length of it. You know, it was every bit
<v Speaker 3>of eight maybe nine feet, because I'm six foot tall,
<v Speaker 3>so it would have been above where my hand top
<v Speaker 3>of my hand reaches at the top of its head.
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's definitely bigger than a juvenile.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was. It's just it was rangy. It was
<v Speaker 3>very skinny, even with all the fur on it, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.
<v Speaker 4>Slender like a basketball player.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, very much like a basketball player. But it didn't
<v Speaker 3>have that hulking uh like. You know.
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like a football player with the pads.
<v Speaker 3>And no, the hair didn't pad it out either, and
<v Speaker 3>it just it was it was rangy. That is the
<v Speaker 3>best way I can describe it. It was just a
<v Speaker 3>very very lean Like I said, whether there was rube shown,
<v Speaker 3>who could know there's that much hair that it's all
<v Speaker 3>just hair. But even the shape of its shoulders were slender,
<v Speaker 3>you know, it was just slender in form. And it's
<v Speaker 3>just the the sheer hot that slenderness I think also
<v Speaker 3>with those very long limbs, but the power and such
<v Speaker 3>a I mean I say slender, but I mean it
<v Speaker 3>was probably about this wide, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>But it was all the way down that way. It
<v Speaker 3>was all big. It wasn't like a skinny person that
<v Speaker 3>was just very tall. It just wasn't I don't know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's the best p Yeah, easily. It was
<v Speaker 3>not even the thin waist. It was it shoulders that
<v Speaker 3>surprised me that it had that it had. It wasn't hulking,
<v Speaker 3>brute muscle shoulders. You know that the shoulders were slend
<v Speaker 3>in proportion to the rest of its body. You know,
<v Speaker 3>it didn't look like a gorilla so much, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, like a silver back gorilla with the
<v Speaker 3>hulking arms, and you know, it was every bit proportionate
<v Speaker 3>to itself. But I mean it was I had to
<v Speaker 3>have been if you want pounds. I mean, it wasn't
<v Speaker 3>like it was gonna blow away in the wind. It
<v Speaker 3>was to make the sound that it made as it
<v Speaker 3>came out of the tree. It was massive.
<v Speaker 4>Did you hear it crashing down.
<v Speaker 3>No, it's I heard the sound that it hit when
<v Speaker 3>it hit the floor's floor. Yeah, it was a hollow thunk.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, if you and I were to jump
<v Speaker 3>right now, just to jump and let our bodies land,
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't hear even immuted. You just wouldn't. He's over
<v Speaker 3>there walking right now, you know. And and it was
<v Speaker 3>it was audibly loud thump, like I mean, if you
<v Speaker 3>can imagine a tree faly, you know, and how it hits.
<v Speaker 1>Like somebody drop like maybe like a big log out
<v Speaker 1>of the tree.
<v Speaker 3>Ute, Like if you could imagine something like that dead
<v Speaker 3>weight like that hitting the ground and that hollow flat
<v Speaker 3>that it makes and then the crashing through the brush.
<v Speaker 4>No, that's a good description.
<v Speaker 1>I've heard the thump a lot, and I talked about
<v Speaker 1>it a lot of my channel, and you know, that's
<v Speaker 1>a vital piece of information because I've speculated, you know,
<v Speaker 1>are the things jumping out of the tree and landing
<v Speaker 1>on the ground or are they just ground stomping to
<v Speaker 1>warn people?
<v Speaker 4>But I've heard it a lot, and.
<v Speaker 1>That's what it sounds like, like somebody picked up a
<v Speaker 1>bowling ball and just dropped it on the ground.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's a dead weight sound almost. It's I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, that's what it sounds because it's such a
<v Speaker 3>big sound, you know what I mean. It's that you
<v Speaker 3>don't expect that. It's just because people don't make that soundy.
<v Speaker 3>I don't even think if I fell out of a
<v Speaker 3>tree from fourteen foot, if I just fell and dead fell,
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'd be able to make that sound
<v Speaker 3>because I don't have the waight necessary to produce it,
<v Speaker 3>and especially for the way it lands. It's such a
<v Speaker 3>pointed it landed in a way that it I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it's like it done it if it's been doing it
<v Speaker 3>the whole of its life. The way it was able
<v Speaker 3>to bound up, I mean the power and you know,
<v Speaker 3>you think of anything falling even in proportion, like if
<v Speaker 3>you jump off a stage which is this high. We
<v Speaker 3>put it in proportion to how tall we are. If
<v Speaker 3>you jump off a stage this high, your knees are
<v Speaker 3>going to fill that shock. Your muscles are going to
<v Speaker 3>fill that shock. I mean as a literal shock. Is
<v Speaker 3>it's going to take a second for you to bound
<v Speaker 3>back up. Any person it would naturally and so proportionately,
<v Speaker 3>you know, to put it coming out of of a
<v Speaker 3>tree like that, to have such a graceful and huge
<v Speaker 3>leap like it just it was like it was on
<v Speaker 3>a swimming board, a springboard. It just was up and gone,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, And it did take it long because
<v Speaker 3>it put the trees at its back. Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 3>I mean like two bounds and the trees were at
<v Speaker 3>its back. And these these these these thickets, these are
<v Speaker 3>old hard woods, and it was you couldn't see it,
<v Speaker 3>but you could hear it at that point.
<v Speaker 1>So it's almost like a lantern on a trampoline. Just
<v Speaker 1>as soon as it hit, it bounced back up.
<v Speaker 3>It was it had an agenda, and its agenda was
<v Speaker 3>to be gone. But like I said, it was like
<v Speaker 3>this trail. It was forty foot from the.
<v Speaker 1>Trail, okay, so yeah, and could you hear it whenever
<v Speaker 1>it was moving through the woods.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you could hear it for a ways. And then
<v Speaker 3>my daughter's mommy, mommy, what is that? You know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean? So after that you kind of lose it
<v Speaker 3>after that shock for a minute, you know, and uh my,
<v Speaker 3>my ex husband was like, did you just see that?
<v Speaker 3>You know? So we had that kind of excitement going on.
<v Speaker 2>So we did.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how far it crashed, because I do
<v Speaker 3>remember that, you know. It was that's you know. The
<v Speaker 3>one hand, it was like what do we do? Do
<v Speaker 3>we just you know, most people, I guess we go home.
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, well, I got a machete, We're
<v Speaker 3>gonna goha and get the firewood. And it ran from us,
<v Speaker 3>so we're okay, you know, but it didn't scream at us,
<v Speaker 3>It didn't throw anything at us. It didn't in any
<v Speaker 3>way do any of that. But because it was I
<v Speaker 3>mean probably I maybe outnumbered, you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 3>or just or we weren't threatening it and it had
<v Speaker 3>plenty of woods to go in. I don't know. It
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like the other encounter had that one I had
<v Speaker 3>things thrown at me. That one was a threatening encounter.
<v Speaker 3>This one wasn't. It ran for us.
<v Speaker 1>Did you end up staying the night here after you
<v Speaker 1>had that encounter or did you guys just hang out
<v Speaker 1>for a few hours.
<v Speaker 3>We just hung out for a few hours.
<v Speaker 4>You didn't hear any wood knocks or smell anything strange?
<v Speaker 3>Now, No, because this was like I said, this was
<v Speaker 3>this was in the broad daylight. This was like three two, three,
<v Speaker 3>four o'clock, probably because it was this time of year,
<v Speaker 3>so it was before it got dark. That's why we're
<v Speaker 3>gonna go ahead. And we were getting wood and stuff
<v Speaker 3>because I was gonna, you know, make dinner in the campfire.
<v Speaker 3>And like I said, this wasn't. This wasn't during the
<v Speaker 3>night time, and it was only one, you know, I mean,
<v Speaker 3>like whether there were more back there, I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>but it was clearly threatened enough that it ran or
<v Speaker 3>it felt like it was outnumbered and it ran or
<v Speaker 3>didn't have any reason to do us harm and it ran.
<v Speaker 3>It didn't in any way, you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 3>try to aggress us in any way. And we didn't
<v Speaker 3>do the same if for it, I didn't even follow
<v Speaker 3>it into the woods. I didn't want to go in
<v Speaker 3>the woods. I sit on traill. You'd beat too.
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is a good area.
<v Speaker 4>It's conservation area.
<v Speaker 1>There's a waterway right behind you, and you mentioned that
<v Speaker 1>there's cave systems here.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's a huge bluff that goes forever and ever,
<v Speaker 3>and this is there's so much I mean, miles and
<v Speaker 3>miles and miles and miles and miles back here, and
<v Speaker 3>there's this giant bluff that sits and a butt's some
<v Speaker 3>of this back here. And then like I said, it's
<v Speaker 3>there's there's lots of woods area back here, tons of it.
<v Speaker 3>So that runs from one conservation into another into another.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's interesting.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 4>So was that your first experience or that was my second?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was your second one, So tell me about
<v Speaker 1>the first experience that you had.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the very first experience that I had, I
<v Speaker 3>was camping. I had a tend out and uh, it's
<v Speaker 3>just a little bitty tent, two person and I had
<v Speaker 3>my dog with me. Well, my ex husband had put
<v Speaker 3>his h We had him on one of those airplane
<v Speaker 3>type leads like you knowing buy at Walmart for Saint
<v Speaker 3>Benard on the front front wheel because you put through
<v Speaker 3>the car, and he put him on that so that
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't, you know, run off if other people came
<v Speaker 3>to the campsite. You know, he would wouldn't you know.
<v Speaker 3>That way, it's just gouldn't be a problem. And so
<v Speaker 3>it was probably right around two o'clock in the morning
<v Speaker 3>or so, because we were watching a movie on the
<v Speaker 3>phone and gets just getting ready to go to sleep,
<v Speaker 3>and the dog kept kind of sitting in on the
<v Speaker 3>tent like he literally was leaning so hard on the
<v Speaker 3>tent that he was starting to collapse part of it,
<v Speaker 3>part of it down sitting on the front of it,
<v Speaker 3>which was strange for him. You know, he was really
<v Speaker 3>good about camping. He loved going, He loved out of
<v Speaker 3>doors at all anywhere. Because he was a high energy dog.
<v Speaker 3>He was great a great day in cybery and Husky
<v Speaker 3>and he was there a bit of one hundred hundredny pounds
<v Speaker 3>at eight months old. He was huge, and so he
<v Speaker 3>was doing this and this behavior. So we just turned
<v Speaker 3>everything off to lay down, and suddenly this, and I
<v Speaker 3>do mean suddenly. I didn't even wasn't even paying attention
<v Speaker 3>enough to notice, because like I said, we had the
<v Speaker 3>phone going, watching a movie to listen like any woodsman does,
<v Speaker 3>to see if the night creatures went silent, you know,
<v Speaker 3>and things like that. It's just we'd lay down, hadn't
<v Speaker 3>even sleep yet. It probably wasn't even a couple of
<v Speaker 3>minutes since turning off the phone. And this scream, and
<v Speaker 3>I say scream. It sounded like an air raid siren
<v Speaker 3>that you would hear like in a World War two movie,
<v Speaker 3>kind of like that. And it worked itself up and
<v Speaker 3>louder and deeper and louder and deeper, and I mean
<v Speaker 3>we both had bolted up at this point, and I'm
<v Speaker 3>looking at him and he's looking at me, and it
<v Speaker 3>when I had to have been every bit of a
<v Speaker 3>third forty five second screen, and it never lost power,
<v Speaker 3>it never waned, and the sound of it, it sounded
<v Speaker 3>like it was only thirty feet from us, if that,
<v Speaker 3>because we were close to the edge of a woodline too,
<v Speaker 3>and it was probably only about seventy eight miles from
<v Speaker 3>Here's crow flies and it was a rib cage. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>it rattled my insides, rattled my insides, and then the
<v Speaker 3>louder it got, its voice broke and right at the
<v Speaker 3>end of its scream and it kind of wound down
<v Speaker 3>like an air raisign. But still there was so much
<v Speaker 3>power in it. It was a high pitch scream and
<v Speaker 3>a low pitch growl at the same time, with like
<v Speaker 3>several tones in between. When it finally stopped, it echoed
<v Speaker 3>and it echoed and it echoed, and my ex husband says,
<v Speaker 3>what was that? I said, I don't know. It could
<v Speaker 3>be a panther or get in the car. You know.
<v Speaker 3>That was my first thing because I wasn't necessarily It's
<v Speaker 3>my first time. I didn't believe in sasquatch. Somebody asked
<v Speaker 3>me these big foots were real, and BE like no,
<v Speaker 3>and so to hear it, I didn't know what it was.
<v Speaker 3>So we jumped in car and I'm like, get out
<v Speaker 3>and get the dog because he'd had it tied to
<v Speaker 3>the front of my brand new car, the wheel and
<v Speaker 3>he's like, I'm not getting out, so it was on
<v Speaker 3>my side, and I got out of the car, unleashed
<v Speaker 3>the dog, and the dog was standing. Like I said,
<v Speaker 3>this is a big dog, not easily put down by it.
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't if I wholeheartedly believe, if it would have
<v Speaker 3>been anything else, he would have reacted to the challenge
<v Speaker 3>with growls, you know, that ferocious nature of a big
<v Speaker 3>dog that's an alpha. And he didn't. He was trying
<v Speaker 3>to defend me, standing for he put himself in front
<v Speaker 3>of me, but his tail was between his legs and
<v Speaker 3>he was urinating himself and he was trying to growl.
<v Speaker 3>He was in a sheer state of terror. So when
<v Speaker 3>I got in undone and I put him in the
<v Speaker 3>back of the car and he had his tail tucked
<v Speaker 3>for a long time. I turned the lights on in
<v Speaker 3>the car, started the car, and I immediately kind of
<v Speaker 3>started driving around the camp the camp side. I wasn't
<v Speaker 3>gonna leave all my stuff because we left everything in
<v Speaker 3>the tent. But at the same time, we're at least mobile.
<v Speaker 3>We got the lights going all the way around this.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I felt a little bit safer. Well, I'm
<v Speaker 3>going through youtubecause I'm only going about two mile an hour,
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, could it be a vixen? You know, like,
<v Speaker 3>what did it sound like? And because I don't believe
<v Speaker 3>in bigfoot and I'm like no, I'm like, it's because
<v Speaker 3>it's just a little short yap, you know, or a scream.
<v Speaker 3>It's short. And then I'm like panther. And then I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>there's no, this wasn't a panther. Didn't sound. I wasn't
<v Speaker 3>that that grolly. It wasn't like that. This was oh man,
<v Speaker 3>it was visceral. And then from that I was reading comments,
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what was this thing? What did I just hear?
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a bear growl because it screamed at the
<v Speaker 3>same time it was a growl. And I ended up
<v Speaker 3>finding sasquatch. I mean, comment after comment was like because
<v Speaker 3>people were trying to find a sound that they'd heard
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, so I ended up on Sasquatch sounds.
<v Speaker 3>And now this one the sound that I heard was
<v Speaker 3>it said I was like angry sasquatching Canada, and it
<v Speaker 3>sounded so similar that it I mean, it was one
<v Speaker 3>of those kind of life changing moments of what did
<v Speaker 3>just happened to? What encounter? Did I just have, and
<v Speaker 3>so I had this bows surrounding my car, you know,
<v Speaker 3>the bows the good speakers. So I turned that thing
<v Speaker 3>up and it's the kind you could hear coming for
<v Speaker 3>two three miles away, and I turned up that Sasquatch call.
<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, stuff started coming at my car
<v Speaker 3>and I had the dog was in the back seat
<v Speaker 3>and it was a rock or something that hit the
<v Speaker 3>backside of it because it put a little dinin in it.
<v Speaker 3>And I drove around the campsite all night long after this,
<v Speaker 3>because at this point I was also kind of on
<v Speaker 3>a mission where in the morning I wanted to see
<v Speaker 3>where this thing was standing. And so there was a
<v Speaker 3>little camp. There's ashes where somebody had a fire or
<v Speaker 3>they'd emptied out ashes from something, or where they cleared
<v Speaker 3>a pit and took it over, and I kind of
<v Speaker 3>hunted down. It was just starting to sprinkle and the
<v Speaker 3>first light at first light, and at the edge of
<v Speaker 3>these ashes was a print, and you could tell it
<v Speaker 3>was fresh because the color of the ashes were two
<v Speaker 3>separate colors. There was a dark underlayer from where it
<v Speaker 3>had stepped in it that were you know, ridged up
<v Speaker 3>around the white color, and each toe kind of rounded
<v Speaker 3>was in the imprint of the ashes, and it was
<v Speaker 3>only about this much of the footprint, but it was
<v Speaker 3>every bit of this wide, every bit of this wide
<v Speaker 3>and about this much of the footprint. And because I
<v Speaker 3>stood there and I called my ex husband and I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>whoa you know? And so then of course you always
<v Speaker 3>told family and stuff about it, But it was a
<v Speaker 3>it was a surreal experience to realize that our existence
<v Speaker 3>in this world is so small that we're as arrogant
<v Speaker 3>to think, well, no, this thing can exist, even though
<v Speaker 3>all these people have ever seen it, you know, and
<v Speaker 3>at that point I hadn't seen it. But I have
<v Speaker 3>to tell you, between the two encounters, the one where
<v Speaker 3>it ran and I saw it with my own eyes
<v Speaker 3>did not even quantify on the level of fear as
<v Speaker 3>that was screaming. It was after food, and that dog
<v Speaker 3>was food, and you know, it had that that It's
<v Speaker 3>like we were in the way, or we were in
<v Speaker 3>its not even necessarily territory. It was that was a
<v Speaker 3>furious and ferocious screen. And I realized when I got
<v Speaker 3>out of that car to unhook that dog, the reason
<v Speaker 3>he was standing in front of me ground like that
<v Speaker 3>is because it was still there. He was protecting me.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean he was urinating himself and his tail
<v Speaker 3>was tucked, but he wasn't just acting that way because
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't scratching at the car. That thing was still there.
<v Speaker 3>And I was so close to something that And I
<v Speaker 3>mean I didn't see this thing, but the size of
<v Speaker 3>its footprint, the size of its footprint, the thing that
<v Speaker 3>fell out of the tree or that landed out of
<v Speaker 3>the tree could not have come in close into sheer
<v Speaker 3>size of what this one was just to buy if
<v Speaker 3>it's slender nature, if it was proportioned in its foot this,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this, this monster, just its standing weight put
<v Speaker 3>this imprint. But it was so wide, and the sound
<v Speaker 3>that it made was so massive that and it produced
<v Speaker 3>a fear that I've never experienced in my life before
<v Speaker 3>that or after. And that that was the very first
<v Speaker 3>And it was about two or three months after that
<v Speaker 3>that I'd seen the slim Rangey one here where we're
<v Speaker 3>at right now. Yeah, So, but that was the very
<v Speaker 3>first experience that I ever had with anything that kind
<v Speaker 3>like I denied it up to the point of like
<v Speaker 3>I had to accept that that was the sound that
<v Speaker 3>I heard, because I'd found all these videos with similar
<v Speaker 3>sounds that though want the animal in the face, the
<v Speaker 3>earth can make the sound, yeah, no human can make it.
<v Speaker 4>So it sounded like a siren kind of.
<v Speaker 3>It started off like an air raid siren or like
<v Speaker 3>a rooster crows, you know, that kind of gurgly sound,
<v Speaker 3>the high pitch gurgly sound. It started out like that,
<v Speaker 3>and it just it grew and as it grew, it
<v Speaker 3>started to growl with that same low bass and high
<v Speaker 3>screamy sound at the same time. And it wasn't like
<v Speaker 3>a short blast of a sound like this thing worked
<v Speaker 3>its volume up until it was done. And it wasn't
<v Speaker 3>a short scream. It wasn't like a like a girl
<v Speaker 3>like her. I mean, it was intentional. It was a
<v Speaker 3>very intentional yell. It was somewhere between a warning and
<v Speaker 3>a guttural thing and also a threat because you could
<v Speaker 3>you just you could feel it. You could feel it.
<v Speaker 3>And this it was worst than blood curdling. It was
<v Speaker 3>a bone rattling. It was a bone rattling yell. But
<v Speaker 3>it that was that was terrifying.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you think it was after the Siberian Husky
<v Speaker 1>slash creat Dame.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, the dan Ski I think that had to
<v Speaker 3>be because he was. He was still a pup as
<v Speaker 3>far as pups when he was about eight months old.
<v Speaker 2>But he was big.
<v Speaker 3>He was, I mean, he had all the size of
<v Speaker 3>the great Dane, you know what I mean. But he
<v Speaker 3>had that strength of the husky, and he was it
<v Speaker 3>was kind of was I would. He was a little
<v Speaker 3>bit of a surly dog. He was stubborn, he was obstinate,
<v Speaker 3>but he was alpha. You know. He wouldn't Uh, he
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a meek dog, so to speak. But I never
<v Speaker 3>seen him behave or react. And it's not necessilly that
<v Speaker 3>he was being to other animals. It's just that, you know,
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't stand down. And uh, I sincerely believe that
<v Speaker 3>if it had been any other animal on the face
<v Speaker 3>of this earth, uh, he would have reacted in a
<v Speaker 3>like manner, challenging me, I'll challenge you. But this one
<v Speaker 3>he did not. This whatever this, you know, whatever this
<v Speaker 3>was to him, it was unfamiliar, unknown, and his nature
<v Speaker 3>didn't know even how to handle it other than to
<v Speaker 3>cow to hope it didn't kill him, cause I mean,
<v Speaker 3>that's it. Well, I guess his nature didn't know how
<v Speaker 3>to handle it. His nature was, you know what I mean,
<v Speaker 3>not to antagonize it. It was not even to play dead.
<v Speaker 3>I mean he you know, like some dogs will play
<v Speaker 3>dead with with something if it's too terrified, like you know,
<v Speaker 3>he didn't, he didn't. He just he was in a
<v Speaker 3>sheer state of terror, sheer state of terror. And the
<v Speaker 3>only thing that kept me, I think, from being that
<v Speaker 3>much was that I was trying to protect him, you know,
<v Speaker 3>as much as he was. Cause I'd opened up that
<v Speaker 3>back door. I was afraid to turn my back on
<v Speaker 3>this thing, just instinctually. I was afraid to turn my
<v Speaker 3>back to even get in the car to open the door,
<v Speaker 3>cause I kept looking out with having lights on, look
<v Speaker 3>out to where i'd heard it, to try to get
<v Speaker 3>the dog in, cause I was I just didn't want
<v Speaker 3>to turn my back, you know, And so I kept
<v Speaker 3>my eyes out where it was so the dog could
<v Speaker 3>run in the car and slammed the door and then
<v Speaker 3>I got in, and uh, there was relief in that,
<v Speaker 3>because being exposed like that it was terror.
<v Speaker 2>That was terror, Oh, I bet.
<v Speaker 1>And whenever you played that sound that you found it
<v Speaker 1>started throwing rock.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, there was a branch. A couple of branches hit
<v Speaker 3>the car and they didn't fall down. From a campsite,
<v Speaker 3>like from a windblow. I mean it was like they
<v Speaker 3>came from the wind had picked up at that point
<v Speaker 3>because because it started to sprinkle in the morning. But
<v Speaker 3>that the way the dog reacted, I mean he was
<v Speaker 3>like dodging and trying to get down because he was
<v Speaker 3>up in the window up at that point. He was
<v Speaker 3>looking out the back window with his tail stock between
<v Speaker 3>his legs and like he was still he was terrified still.
<v Speaker 3>But the one that hit like the side of the
<v Speaker 3>car came out of the woods and it was like
<v Speaker 3>a rock or something because it put a little indentionon
<v Speaker 3>there in the car. And I mean it hit it.
<v Speaker 3>It was intentional. And like I said, it was dark
<v Speaker 3>in the night and I was I was on YouTube
<v Speaker 3>trying to find it. And and the fact that it
<v Speaker 3>reacted when I turned up the speaker to play that
<v Speaker 3>same sound back at it, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>It just it was. It was a terrifying experience because
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how long it was there. How long
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how long it I do know that
<v Speaker 3>it for the dog, I think, to still be having
<v Speaker 3>his legs tucked up or his tail tucked up between
<v Speaker 3>his legs. You know, and looking and conering down in
<v Speaker 3>the back seat like he was. Because something came at
<v Speaker 3>the back glass too. It kind of bounced off the trunk,
<v Speaker 3>and I think that it was still there, and he
<v Speaker 3>knew that because he's you know, he's an animal, probably
<v Speaker 3>see better than I. But I know for certain when
<v Speaker 3>he was standing there when I got out of the
<v Speaker 3>car to let him in, he wasn't scratching at the door.
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't turn his back on it either, that animal instinct,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, not to turn your back
<v Speaker 3>like when something wants to chase you, or if you
<v Speaker 3>turn your back, you know what I mean. Then, but
<v Speaker 3>that that instinct in us that to keep it in
<v Speaker 3>our line aside, is that you know that that was
<v Speaker 3>boy that was at the fore with me and the dog.
<v Speaker 3>It was a truly singular experience that I hope to
<v Speaker 3>never have again ever.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, And that shows intelligence.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think a mountain lion could throw rocks
<v Speaker 1>like that, or a bear or any known creature.
<v Speaker 4>It had to have been encrypted.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and well and then then seeing the footprint,
<v Speaker 3>but just the sound, there's no animal other there is
<v Speaker 3>nothing of this other than that that could possibly it's
<v Speaker 3>just because the size of it, also the power and
<v Speaker 3>its vocals and the power and its lungs and it's
<v Speaker 3>a sound that buddy, that thing was. It had the might,
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it might makes right. It was gonna
<v Speaker 3>do what it wanted to. And I believe if it
<v Speaker 3>would have been just my ex husband and the dog,
<v Speaker 3>or myself or the dog that I don't know if
<v Speaker 3>we would have survived if it would have just been
<v Speaker 3>one person.
<v Speaker 4>So you got a dark feeling like it had bad intentions.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely it was. It was because it wasn't like disencounter.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel threatened. I didn't feel that I was
<v Speaker 3>leary because it was unfamiliar, but I didn't feel that
<v Speaker 3>sense of threat like being stalked intent. But this first
<v Speaker 3>one I did that something was so close to us
<v Speaker 3>and this furious yell that it had let out. You know,
<v Speaker 3>it's it wanted us to know that it was there,
<v Speaker 3>wanted to intimidate. You know, I don't know if maybe,
<v Speaker 3>but it's because it's an intelligent creature clearly or there
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, there would be more taxa
<v Speaker 3>R mean, you know, they're intelligent creatures, so like any
<v Speaker 3>other creatures, there. You know, some have certain intents and
<v Speaker 3>some have others, and you know, especially something they know,
<v Speaker 3>like an alpha or whatnot. Maybe this one was a
<v Speaker 3>juvenile or maybe it was just on the cusp of
<v Speaker 3>you know, that adult age. I don't know. I can't
<v Speaker 3>even begin to fathom. I could think about it all
<v Speaker 3>day long, but it all be just you know, kind
<v Speaker 3>of guessing. But it was. It was terrifying, is what
<v Speaker 3>that one was. And that was about two three months
<v Speaker 3>before we saw this one. If that so in the
<v Speaker 3>same kind of local area, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That's terrifying. And how far away was the creature from
<v Speaker 1>you whenever it screamed.
<v Speaker 3>Probably about thirty feet if Oh, yeah, it was. It
<v Speaker 3>was extreme. It was. It was standing like there's a
<v Speaker 3>little road that's like in the tear drop shape or
<v Speaker 3>on the campgrounds. The campgrounds are just little places set
<v Speaker 3>inside of the tear drop shape that comes out, and
<v Speaker 3>it was standing at the edge of the road just
<v Speaker 3>to the I mean, it might have come closer, but
<v Speaker 3>that's as far as I could track it, because, like
<v Speaker 3>I said, we were in the tent and the dog
<v Speaker 3>was pushing up to the tent. He was sitting on
<v Speaker 3>the tent because I kept pushing him to my feet, like, man,
<v Speaker 3>get off the tent, you know, And it didn't occur
<v Speaker 3>to me because I we weren't listening when we were
<v Speaker 3>watching a movie. We were the only people there, just us,
<v Speaker 3>just a dog. And so that that experience actually taught
<v Speaker 3>me to be a lot more aware, because I wouldn't
<v Speaker 3>have been afraid of necessarily a bear or even a
<v Speaker 3>panther or anything like that, especially with a dog and
<v Speaker 3>two people. You know, it's because at that point they're
<v Speaker 3>looking for something that's like an easier mill or a
<v Speaker 3>bobcat or whatever, and there's plenty of that out there,
<v Speaker 3>you know, But I don't know this. This thing, this
<v Speaker 3>was much different. It didn't want to run away from us.
<v Speaker 3>It didn't. It didn't want to run away from us.
<v Speaker 3>And there's the problem. It didn't want to run away
<v Speaker 3>from us. It wanted us to run from it, you know.
<v Speaker 3>It wanted it wanted something that we had there, whether
<v Speaker 3>it be the food, whether it be in the tent.
<v Speaker 3>Well you know we just bought. You don't mean probably
<v Speaker 3>of snacks I don't even remember, or whether it was
<v Speaker 3>the dog both, you know, whatever it was, it it
<v Speaker 3>was willing. You know what I mean like that that
<v Speaker 3>scream said I'm here, you know it, And I did
<v Speaker 3>this intentionally. So what does that say about something that
<v Speaker 3>does that? It's not afraid and I was so I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it definitely wasn't afraid, and it wanted
<v Speaker 1>you to know that it was there. And the fact
<v Speaker 1>that your dog was freaking out, you know, and this
<v Speaker 1>is a big dog, an alpha Yeah, you know that
<v Speaker 1>that says a lot. Yeah, especially if he peed himself.
<v Speaker 1>And it was kind of you said, he was kind
<v Speaker 1>of leaning towards the tent.
<v Speaker 3>He was sitting on the tent. He was trying to
<v Speaker 3>push his way into the tent like he was starting
<v Speaker 3>to push because it's just the kind of like you know,
<v Speaker 3>yay hi, and had the two crisscross poles, which is
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was it was literally it was like
<v Speaker 3>a stand up and walk around tent. It was like
<v Speaker 3>you get it, and Wisquito to stay off your tent?
<v Speaker 3>You know? And the dog was he was trying to
<v Speaker 3>sit on the tent like he was sitting. He was
<v Speaker 3>pushing so far against it that he was starting to
<v Speaker 3>unstake it, you know, and he won it in he
<v Speaker 3>wanted he was he felt unsafe, is what it was.
<v Speaker 3>But I thought, you know, it's just that, you know,
<v Speaker 3>because he likes sleeping my mommy. You know, like that's
<v Speaker 3>kind of what I attributed to I because, like I said,
<v Speaker 3>if I would have had that phone off, I would
<v Speaker 3>have heard this creature, I think, something that big. You can't,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but I guess they'd be silent and they
<v Speaker 3>want to be. But the fact that it just didn't care.
<v Speaker 3>But I would have at least heard the night creatures
<v Speaker 3>go silent even at its approach, you know, because you know,
<v Speaker 3>any woodsman knows that you listen to everything in your surroundings.
<v Speaker 3>And even if you don't hear the predator, once you
<v Speaker 3>hear the night creatures go silent and the night bugs,
<v Speaker 3>the predator's there, you know, because you can hear. That's
<v Speaker 3>why the woods seem eerie to people who aren't familiar
<v Speaker 3>with them when they're quiet, And they're usually the reason
<v Speaker 3>that the woods are quiet, because you know, they're the
<v Speaker 3>different object of them.
<v Speaker 4>But did you get a sense if there was more
<v Speaker 4>than just one?
<v Speaker 3>No, whether there was or not, I don't know, which
<v Speaker 3>may have spurred on. It's you know what I mean, audacity,
<v Speaker 3>You know, what I mean. I guess that's the way
<v Speaker 3>look at it. I don't know or if it was
<v Speaker 3>just one that was so big or knew that it
<v Speaker 3>had you know what I mean. It was because this,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, this dog's a baby look getting compared
<v Speaker 3>to my dog was twice as height. I mean he was,
<v Speaker 3>he was. He was big on his hind legs. He
<v Speaker 3>stood taller than me almost. He was huge.
<v Speaker 4>And so what was that like August September.
<v Speaker 3>That's probably around probably around September, probably around September. It
<v Speaker 3>was right at the right when the leaves were kind
<v Speaker 3>of just starting to trickle off the trees, and it
<v Speaker 3>was right around in that time. It wasn't you know,
<v Speaker 3>late in the fall yet, and it was probably about
<v Speaker 3>this time because there was no leaves on the tree
<v Speaker 3>when we had seen the dark colored one, and that
<v Speaker 3>was in the daytime. This was in the dark hours
<v Speaker 3>of the night. Like I said, we were just getting
<v Speaker 3>ready because we didn't we didn't even get there to
<v Speaker 3>go camping until late and so watched a movie, hasn't
<v Speaker 3>eat watched a movie and then just getting ready to
<v Speaker 3>lay down and go to sleep, and uh, then we
<v Speaker 3>hear this this scream and Uh, that was. Like I said,
<v Speaker 3>it was a very singular experience. And even after I
<v Speaker 3>had found you know, this sound of what it was,
<v Speaker 3>it still had that hard time in my mind accepting
<v Speaker 3>that that this is what I just heard. And part
<v Speaker 3>of me is like, man, I wish I'd have thought
<v Speaker 3>to grab my phone, but that terror of that's the
<v Speaker 3>last thing you're gonna think of, is to grab your phone. Well,
<v Speaker 3>this is a neat noise. I'm gonna record it, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. And so it's like.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't register, and even if it does click, like
<v Speaker 1>your mind tries to tell you that's not what it was.
<v Speaker 1>But then you think about the experience and it's like, well,
<v Speaker 1>I can't figure out, yeah, you know, any animal or
<v Speaker 1>person that would do that.
<v Speaker 3>And to think that there's something that's bipedal like us,
<v Speaker 3>that's that huge and clever, and to think of something
<v Speaker 3>that huge with that much power and able to disguis
<v Speaker 3>or to to blend to watch from afar and see
<v Speaker 3>everything we're doing with ill intent, you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 3>That's it feels like it's on the border between an
<v Speaker 3>animal instinct but also at the same time like that
<v Speaker 3>that but oh man, most predators are any kind if
<v Speaker 3>you walk up on a bear at growls because you
<v Speaker 3>walked up on it, you know what I mean. It
<v Speaker 3>doesn't walk up on you and start growling unless it's
<v Speaker 3>kinda eat you. So that was why that was scary,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 1>So I can only imagine. And how far out of
<v Speaker 1>town is that place? I mean, is it out in
<v Speaker 1>the pretty far out in the country.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's it's a good ways out in the country.
<v Speaker 3>As a crow flies. It's probably on a seven to
<v Speaker 3>ten miles from here, but if you get on the highway,
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like fourteen miles drive twelve fourteen miles
<v Speaker 3>something like that. But this is all kind of the
<v Speaker 3>same area and close to the same county, so because
<v Speaker 3>it's right on the line.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I keep getting drawn to the same areas.
<v Speaker 1>When we were going down this highway, I'm like, yep,
<v Speaker 1>this is where I make a lot of my films at.
<v Speaker 1>This is where I take a lot of reports at.
<v Speaker 1>And there's so many different roads and highways and towns
<v Speaker 1>and cities and Missouri that you know, there's certainly something
<v Speaker 1>to it if I keep getting drawn to the same area.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well they're big, I mean you got to think
<v Speaker 3>legs like that, they cover a lot of ground. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>they don't get in a car, they don't. I mean
<v Speaker 3>the lungs, stamina, everything about them. If they want to
<v Speaker 3>make territory between here and there, you know, it's nothing, it's.
<v Speaker 4>Nothing that's research to me.
<v Speaker 1>You know, if these encounters and experiences keep happening in
<v Speaker 1>the same area. Because a lot of people say there's
<v Speaker 1>no proof, you know, that's as data for me right there.
<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, uh, Because like I said, I wouldn't go
<v Speaker 3>out of my way to argue with somebody. Somebody's like
<v Speaker 3>I've seen sasquatch. I'd listen, you know. As far as
<v Speaker 3>for me, it's like I don't know, you see the bear,
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Or your eyes were tricking you.
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say it to them, you know. But for
<v Speaker 3>in my head, I was so highly skeptical, Like it's.
<v Speaker 1>A natural way to think, because you know, we tend
<v Speaker 1>to think that we know everything that there is out there,
<v Speaker 1>and we have technology. There's trail cameras, people say everywhere,
<v Speaker 1>but they're not everywhere. There's just so much woods that
<v Speaker 1>you can't cover every square foot. Absolutely, I say, there's
<v Speaker 1>people everywhere. When I go to conservation areas, we sometimes
<v Speaker 1>we see one person, or a lot of times we
<v Speaker 1>didn't even pass anyone on the whole way down, and
<v Speaker 1>don't see anyone in the area. And we're talking about
<v Speaker 1>vast areas, so there's not people everywhere, you.
<v Speaker 3>Know, So say out here like between, like you can
<v Speaker 3>go out. There's places in the Mark Twain National Forest,
<v Speaker 3>which are I don't know, twelve thirteen to fourteen miles
<v Speaker 3>the other direction where there's my brother had some counters there.
<v Speaker 3>There's friends day out camping. But you could travel four
<v Speaker 3>counties on those old back roads and still be in
<v Speaker 3>the same forest. National Forest. You know, it's huge. There's
<v Speaker 3>no way, there's no way people could track every square
<v Speaker 3>foot of it to know what's going on there. They
<v Speaker 3>just can't. And these things are natural woodsman's you know.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, absolutely kind of get the feeling we're being
<v Speaker 1>watched out here. I always say that, but I mean
<v Speaker 1>it's so quiet, those.
<v Speaker 3>Thick woods back there. It's it's hard because our our hearing,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I hear the river behind me right now,
<v Speaker 3>and it's not like an animal's hearing. But this will
<v Speaker 3>mask a lot of sounds here in that river. No,
<v Speaker 3>that's what the ear is gonna do too. And then
<v Speaker 3>when you look out you can't see as far as
<v Speaker 3>the eye can see, because all you see is those
<v Speaker 3>hard wood, that cedar thicket, and it's black. It's eerie
<v Speaker 3>because it's black.
<v Speaker 4>Now, that area where you heard the vocalization, had the
<v Speaker 4>rocks thrown? Was there a creek or a wherever?
<v Speaker 2>Nearby a lake? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was on a lake. And like I said it,
<v Speaker 3>you could hear it. It echoed and echoed and echoed.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's still echoing through my memories. That that's
<v Speaker 3>how that sound. It just I've never heard anything like
<v Speaker 3>it by the ear since after before, and I hope
<v Speaker 3>I never do again.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Has this encounter strengthened your faith with like God and
<v Speaker 1>you know, mysteries of the universe and things that other
<v Speaker 1>people have talked about as far as like, oh I
<v Speaker 1>had paranormal encounters?
<v Speaker 4>Are UFOs?
<v Speaker 2>You know? Shut up?
<v Speaker 4>Do you do you feel more open to all that now?
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've I kind of, I've I've came to God
<v Speaker 3>in a whole other way. But this my relationship with God.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I actually was thinking I wasn't a believer
<v Speaker 3>till I saw it with my own eyes that I
<v Speaker 3>was thinking, blessard of those who walk by faith? It
<v Speaker 3>up myself, you know, we walk by faith about by sight,
<v Speaker 3>and and boy, I was certainly a skeptic, but it's
<v Speaker 3>I do I think about things like that. I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 3>if they're here, that means they were in the arc.
<v Speaker 3>It's like in they're here, so you.
<v Speaker 1>Know they were on the arc or they're part of
<v Speaker 1>what was going on for the reason of the flood
<v Speaker 1>as far as the giants, and.
<v Speaker 3>I believe that, well, you know, God says, if God says, Noah,
<v Speaker 3>get on the boat, everything's going everything if it if
<v Speaker 3>it don't swim in the sea. And even then I'm gonna,
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna We're gonna put someone on the ground.
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 3>If it don't swim in the sea, it's going everything
<v Speaker 3>on everything that walks this earth. You know, I give
<v Speaker 3>you two of everything you're gonna need this whole earth.
<v Speaker 3>Get on the arc, you know. And how it took
<v Speaker 3>him that long. God gave him memory and need, and
<v Speaker 3>he gave him plans and mastershipman they became, you know,
<v Speaker 3>And so it's kind of a neat thing to think
<v Speaker 3>about too, because I mean they were mastership builders and
<v Speaker 3>we think that this land was just discovered. It couldn't
<v Speaker 3>have been Native Americans got over here because guess what,
<v Speaker 3>there was no humanity over here either. So want to
<v Speaker 3>know his sons or Noa's son's sons had to sell
<v Speaker 3>this way, but they had to have been on that arc.
<v Speaker 3>That had to been a pair that was sent there.
<v Speaker 3>There's no other way about it because everything else was
<v Speaker 3>wiped off, you know, so nothing. It ain't gonna swim
<v Speaker 3>for no four days and then it ain't gonna eat either.
<v Speaker 1>You know, it made when that happened, because they don't
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about anything.
<v Speaker 3>Well, and even some of those that they find, like
<v Speaker 3>the fossils of because they find them all over the world.
<v Speaker 3>Well that would be why the world was flooded, So
<v Speaker 3>everything got moved and shifted from here to there and
<v Speaker 3>so and they find them in a certain sentiment that
<v Speaker 3>dates back exactly when you know, the Bible states this
<v Speaker 3>is what happened, which I think is so so neat
<v Speaker 3>because you know, God, God's like that, like elephants when
<v Speaker 3>there's a tsunami, they'll head uphill. Well, why do you
<v Speaker 3>think that is because there was a flood coming. I
<v Speaker 3>bet you Noah's ark was on top of a hill.
<v Speaker 3>You know that it's built into him. So it's just
<v Speaker 3>they had to have been on the arc.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>So but it makes sense from to be you know,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, just as far as being in the wild though,
<v Speaker 3>it makes sense that a lot of sightings, like because
<v Speaker 3>I did read about it for a little bit, like campgrounds,
<v Speaker 3>more people send to see them at campgrounds than anything
<v Speaker 3>else because people leave behind food or there's food out.
<v Speaker 3>It's not you know what I mean, or you know,
<v Speaker 3>it's that it's easy availability.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Campers, hunters and fishermen, and also people driving on
<v Speaker 1>the road. Those seem to be the the most. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>people that have the encounters.
<v Speaker 3>Because you really just look out in your backyard and
<v Speaker 3>see big foot. You might see a bear. But but
<v Speaker 3>but it's outdoorsmen. Because the more you're out in something,
<v Speaker 3>you know, like reading the Bible, the more you read
<v Speaker 3>the Bible, the more the word makes sense to you,
<v Speaker 3>the more it grows in you, and the more you
<v Speaker 3>change all. The more you're outdoors, the more you're in nature,
<v Speaker 3>the more you're gonna see and recognize of nature and
<v Speaker 3>the different signs of things that are in nature too,
<v Speaker 3>because you know, you start kind of vibing with you know,
<v Speaker 3>the environment and things that are going on. So it
<v Speaker 3>makes sense that people who are outdoorsmen would notice these
<v Speaker 3>things more.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And I mean you can go out in the
<v Speaker 1>woods your whole life and never see anything. But at
<v Speaker 1>the same time, you know, if you want to see one,
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta be you gotta be out there.
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it. You know, you could probably hunt your
<v Speaker 3>whole life. I wasn't hunting big foot. I came here
<v Speaker 3>to camp. I wasn't hunting bigfoot, you know, I went
<v Speaker 3>there to camp. I didn't want to be hunted by
<v Speaker 3>bigfoot either. That's what it felt like. And that felt
<v Speaker 3>that felt like I was being cornered as prey. And boy,
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing there's that. That's a terrible feeling to feel
<v Speaker 3>like you're prey, and that that encounter, I felt like
<v Speaker 3>I was pray, like I was being sized up as
<v Speaker 3>potential food, you know, pray something to be gotten rid of,
<v Speaker 3>or an obstacle in the way of the goal, which
<v Speaker 3>may have been the dog because he was he was tethered,
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't run, he was chained to a cable and
<v Speaker 3>that was a very, like I said, very singular, very
<v Speaker 3>singular experience, very terrifying experience, and one I hope to
<v Speaker 3>never have again. I don't even want to see one
<v Speaker 3>again because it does it. It's you can see it,
<v Speaker 3>realize you've seen it, watch, and then spend the next
<v Speaker 3>week like, no, that's not what we saw. Be like that,
<v Speaker 3>that's what you saw, and you want to especially when
<v Speaker 3>you have other people who saw it with you, you kind
<v Speaker 3>of want to confirm it again and again and again
<v Speaker 3>and then be like my, you know, dactor, be like mommy,
<v Speaker 3>you remember when we saw it.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, so, yeah, you have to come to terms
<v Speaker 1>with it, because your brain will just try to like
<v Speaker 1>categorize it somewhere.
<v Speaker 4>And it won't be able to put it in an area.
<v Speaker 3>Right because it's exactly it's we're told they don't need
<v Speaker 3>this thing isn't real or you know. And and even then,
<v Speaker 3>it's just the unfamiliarity of seeing something that looks like
<v Speaker 3>a human shape. I mean, it's a little longer, like
<v Speaker 3>the arms don't match, like they're long, and its movements
<v Speaker 3>are very animal. But it's it's just the fact that
<v Speaker 3>it's it's up on its feet like us. So we
<v Speaker 3>want to liken it to us as far as because
<v Speaker 3>some people are like, oh, it's protecting you and Bigfoot's
<v Speaker 3>a good guy. No, I don't believe that for a minute.
<v Speaker 3>They're an animal, you know what I mean. They're either
<v Speaker 3>going to run at you or from you. They're an
<v Speaker 3>animal there, you know. And then so they needed to
<v Speaker 3>be treated that way. Yeah, you know, because we don't
<v Speaker 3>have the knowledge of them that they have of us.
<v Speaker 3>And that's for sure, or they wouldn't be watching us,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and learning our patterns.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's the thing.
<v Speaker 1>Like you mentioned the flood, Every ancient civilization has a
<v Speaker 1>flood story, and every culture around the world has a
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot you know story, whether it's like the hairy man,
<v Speaker 1>the wild man. Yeah, I mean no matter where you know, is.
<v Speaker 3>It dog man. That's a different one, ain't it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well that's a different cryptid.
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, for some reason, with the data that
<v Speaker 1>I've found, you find dogmen sightings in the same areas
<v Speaker 1>that you find bigfoots.
<v Speaker 3>It's like a younger one or something like if it's
<v Speaker 3>a weird transit you know what I mean, transitional phase between. Well, no,
<v Speaker 3>their faces are longer. I've never seen a dog man.
<v Speaker 3>I've only heard actually it was his brother in law
<v Speaker 3>when he was talking about that, because you brought up
<v Speaker 3>dog man or something. But like I said, I've never
<v Speaker 3>this was This was easily not it was bigfoot. Like
<v Speaker 3>you know, this was bigfoot. There was no two ways
<v Speaker 3>about it.
<v Speaker 2>It's bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, absolutely, Okay, Well Stacy, I appreciate it.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, telling your story. You did an excellent job.
<v Speaker 3>I praise Lord.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just blessed that you were willing to tell
<v Speaker 1>your story.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Bill, So you.
<v Speaker 1>Sent me an email a while back and I read
<v Speaker 1>it off on the channel. Would you tell me about
<v Speaker 1>that encounter that you had that experience in Lucky, Missouri.
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Well, first of all, I've I've hunted my whole
<v Speaker 2>life since i was a kid. I'm fifty eight years old.
<v Speaker 2>I never believed in anything like that. I Uh, when
<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, I hunt up with my dad
<v Speaker 2>middle of the night with plot hounds with coon hunting
<v Speaker 2>Southern Illinois and never I've been in the wood with
<v Speaker 2>my whole life, hunting and fished. It's one of my
<v Speaker 2>favorite things to do, and I've got go down in
<v Speaker 2>Texas County and my mom, stepdad and family down there,
<v Speaker 2>and I hunted my whole life down there, and my
<v Speaker 2>brother in law Babs. He would talk about bigfoot out there,
<v Speaker 2>and I used to laugh at him and you're crazy,
<v Speaker 2>you nuts man? What doing that? Cut it out? M
<v Speaker 2>And he went off, you know, you just tell me
<v Speaker 2>that stuff all the time. I never would believe him.
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was crazy and I laugh, you know
<v Speaker 2>just whatever. Well, uh, like I said, we was in
<v Speaker 2>between homes. We were waiting for an apartment here and
<v Speaker 2>uh so we we was camping for like a year
<v Speaker 2>and a half and uh the w W one place
<v Speaker 2>where we camp camped on the big Piney River there
<v Speaker 2>just outside of Licking, and uh after he was there
<v Speaker 2>for a little while, we we know its Uh well,
<v Speaker 2>first I noticed that my dog he was when he
<v Speaker 2>was a pup man. It was just all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>he got just out of blue. He played dead and
<v Speaker 2>he would he he he'd puke up about and just
<v Speaker 2>later like like dead. And I was like, I want
<v Speaker 2>my dog man, And then he start he couldn't even
<v Speaker 2>it was so small, he couldn't get in the truck.
<v Speaker 2>You know. He wanted in that truck, wanted to hide.
<v Speaker 2>He'd he'd get up under the seat and just hide
<v Speaker 2>and shake. I thought, oh, that was wrong with him. Well,
<v Speaker 2>it turned out it was hogs. There was a lot
<v Speaker 2>of hogs. The hogs didn't bothered me too much, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And we'd leave there and camp somewhere old and come
<v Speaker 2>back after a couple of days. Hogs come in. They
<v Speaker 2>ain't bothered me too much, you know. They got too close.
<v Speaker 2>I had had the AR twelve, you know. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>last night the guy real we was there and I said,
<v Speaker 2>we're done. Uh again, the hogs came in. Had to
<v Speaker 2>be on top of the truck, and I had the
<v Speaker 2>AR twelve because it they came close enough, I was
<v Speaker 2>gonna shoot one and be honest with you, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and uh it wa it just n it got dark
<v Speaker 2>and just say, the sun went down. It was so
<v Speaker 2>dark you can't see nothing. And where we was camped
<v Speaker 2>during the big Piney, there was there's like little ravines
<v Speaker 2>back in the woods, you know, And that's where the
<v Speaker 2>hog joys came up from. And I heard the hog
<v Speaker 2>boy they was coming in and and it was coming
<v Speaker 2>in a little different this time, you know, And they didn't,
<v Speaker 2>they didn't stick around this time. And he kept going
<v Speaker 2>and and I could smell. The only way I can
<v Speaker 2>explain this is I had I had a m I
<v Speaker 2>I had a member of my family that just you
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why he would never bathe never shower.
<v Speaker 2>Had a stench to him, and uh bad stench. It
<v Speaker 2>was that exact same smell times ten. It was bad,
<v Speaker 2>really bad. And I thought, my god, man, I I
<v Speaker 2>put that what it was gross and then I never
<v Speaker 2>I never seen it, but I heard just I mean
<v Speaker 2>just inside the woods where I couldn't see in the ravine.
<v Speaker 2>The loudest it it it It started out kind of
<v Speaker 2>kind kind of kind of uh quiet, and then got
<v Speaker 2>really loud, high pitched, and then down to like a
<v Speaker 2>brumble and and and my truck, my camper was metal,
<v Speaker 2>and we sitting on top the truck, and it was
<v Speaker 2>so loud that I could feel the truck. I could
<v Speaker 2>I could I could feel I the the voice of
<v Speaker 2>the sosquatch that was making that noise, and that thing
<v Speaker 2>was mad, extremely mad. I it it scared me, it
<v Speaker 2>did I. I people people on your video thought that
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe that uh sasquash was saving us some
<v Speaker 2>of the hogs know that that was That was not
<v Speaker 2>what I was trying to say. He was after the hogs,
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't want us there either, d he he
<v Speaker 2>wanted us out of there. And then then he started
<v Speaker 2>throwing stuff. Now I've a I've never had nothing in
<v Speaker 2>the woods middle of not be thrown at me. I
<v Speaker 2>never heard nothing like that. I've heard cougar's, cougar's, cougar's
<v Speaker 2>in the in the middle of the night. They were
<v Speaker 2>scare you. It sounds like a woman being tortured in
<v Speaker 2>the woods. If you ever heard of cougar in the woods,
<v Speaker 2>you know, m I've seen black bears here, cougar's, I've
<v Speaker 2>heard cougars. I've heard everything in there. Are is it
<v Speaker 2>in Missouri woods that you could hear? I've never heard
<v Speaker 2>nothing like that. I've never heard as loud as that was,
<v Speaker 2>and never had anything thrown at me in the truck.
<v Speaker 2>And when when they started throwing stuff at the truck,
<v Speaker 2>it was time to go, and we got in the
<v Speaker 2>Capitol truck and I went up the road. There. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>I a guy I know, they call him Red Dog,
<v Speaker 2>his name Larry. And I was so scared. I pulled
<v Speaker 2>in and he came out like, we guys, while you
<v Speaker 2>hear in the middle of the night. I I didn't
<v Speaker 2>wanna tell him that. I was just I didn't know
<v Speaker 2>what's my My brain was scattered, and uh, he said, well,
<v Speaker 2>just come in and sleep here tonight. And we went
<v Speaker 2>and stut there to night and we didn't go back
<v Speaker 2>after that. Before that, the hogs, we would go back
<v Speaker 2>there camp all the time, you know, we'd leave go
<v Speaker 2>camp somewhere else to come back that. After that night,
<v Speaker 2>what I heard and stuff didn't throw that truck, and
<v Speaker 2>we didn't want nothing to do with that at all.
<v Speaker 2>It was scary. It did not want is there? What
<v Speaker 2>it did not one? Is there?
<v Speaker 4>What did the scream sound like? What can you compare
<v Speaker 4>it to?
<v Speaker 2>It was like ham or like it was. It started
<v Speaker 2>out it started out a little more quiet, and then
<v Speaker 2>the latter guy it went real high pitched, and then
<v Speaker 2>it dropped to a growl and long, long growl, like
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds long. And I've never heard nothing like that, never,
<v Speaker 2>And it was so loud. Like I said, it was
<v Speaker 2>on top of the truck and the camper I had
<v Speaker 2>was it was steel. It was you know, it was
<v Speaker 2>like a work camper and you can you could feel
<v Speaker 2>the truck a little vibration when everything was growling. Now
<v Speaker 2>now I'm out of here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Stacy was telling me this earlier. You guys
<v Speaker 1>were in the tent, correct.
<v Speaker 2>When the hogs came. We was intense before. Yeah. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And then she said she could see lightning and she
<v Speaker 1>saw like a figure moving through the camp and she
<v Speaker 1>saw like tufts, like a big animal.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was. That was a big hog.
<v Speaker 2>That was. That was huge hog. Biggest hog I've ever seen.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen I've seen, you know, one hundred pounders, two
<v Speaker 2>hundred pounders. This hog was. This dog was a beast.
<v Speaker 4>It was a big one and it had little ones.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had little ones. It was a big sound.
<v Speaker 1>In the story and what you told me earlier, they
<v Speaker 1>were like communicating back and forth.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, people can believe me or not. I'm telling
<v Speaker 2>you what. Hogs are smart, very smart. These hogs. They
<v Speaker 2>communicate with each other. Because one dog, wherever he just
<v Speaker 2>went when he was little, the hogs was trying to
<v Speaker 2>get to him. They want they wanted to kill my dog.
<v Speaker 2>And uh so we had him in it. He was
<v Speaker 2>in the corner and it was some went down and
<v Speaker 2>the hogs was coming in. And it was a hog
<v Speaker 2>and it it was putting his nose against the tent,
<v Speaker 2>you know, put poking his nose and sniffing and sniffing
<v Speaker 2>right to the dog. And you see, she said, uh, well, man,
<v Speaker 2>she said, I'm gonna hit this hog. And before I
<v Speaker 2>could tell her, don't hit that hogs cause she was
<v Speaker 2>gonna bust him in the nose because his nose, puppy,
<v Speaker 2>she took her hand like this and said, bop, hit
<v Speaker 2>that nose right, hit that hog right the nose through
<v Speaker 2>the tent. And that hog wanted to squeal. And I said,
<v Speaker 2>oh man, let's go, get on truck, Get on truck,
<v Speaker 2>Get on the truck. I grabbed a dog and me
<v Speaker 2>and her and we got on top of the truck.
<v Speaker 2>And then hogs tore the tin up. They came in
<v Speaker 2>that tent, ripped that tin up, and uh, I don't
<v Speaker 2>believe the conservation was what. I don't believe in one
<v Speaker 2>bit what what I have seen. They say that you
<v Speaker 2>shoot at a hog and they're running two counties away.
<v Speaker 2>No won't, no, I won't. That hog will go get
<v Speaker 2>his buddies and he'll come back. I'm telling you right now,
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it. I don't care what anybody says. I
<v Speaker 2>don't believe the conservation. I've seen it with my own eyes.
<v Speaker 2>You mess with a hog, he's coming back and he's
<v Speaker 2>gonna have more hogs with him. I've seen it. I've
<v Speaker 2>seen it more than once.
<v Speaker 1>That's frightening. And whenever it communicated, you could hear them snorting, and.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they would make little noise, and they would also,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, when you call your dog them, hogs
<v Speaker 2>will do that, don't Hogs will imitate a dog to
<v Speaker 2>try to call your dog again, to him to kill
<v Speaker 2>your dog. I've seen it. I've seen it with my
<v Speaker 2>own eyes. But like I said, the hogs don't bothering.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they are dangerous, but you know I got
<v Speaker 2>guns for that. But what I heard that wasn't no hog,
<v Speaker 2>and it was after the hogs, and it scared the hogs,
<v Speaker 2>and the hogs were high tailing. It passed us. They
<v Speaker 2>weren't hanging around m and that thing, I've never heard
<v Speaker 2>nothing like I I never heard of growl like that
<v Speaker 2>before in my life. I never had nothing thrown at
<v Speaker 2>me in the middle of the night. While I'm sitting
<v Speaker 2>in my on the top of my truck.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, was it throwing rocks or it's throwing rock.
<v Speaker 2>And sticks hitting the truck? Ping, ping ping. I said,
<v Speaker 2>now we're out of here, We're gone. I'm I'm I'm
<v Speaker 2>not messing with dead. I don't know what it is.
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. The woman I'm out of here just
<v Speaker 2>gave me.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's frightening. And did the creature ever kill a hog?
<v Speaker 2>No? I was told by somebody that that a hog
<v Speaker 2>that b at if Bigfoot want or two, he could
<v Speaker 2>take a hog and hit it against the tree and
<v Speaker 2>throw it over his back somehow. That that was said
<v Speaker 2>that icing that. No, I did not see that. I'm
<v Speaker 2>sorry if yeah, I I did not. I said, icing
<v Speaker 2>that that's what I was told that you know Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>to do that, right, Yeah, I believe you good. I
<v Speaker 2>believe you good. Absolutely, And uh, so many people down
<v Speaker 2>that I've talked to they said that's what they told me.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, they said that the hogs, that that Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>controls the hogs. There ain't no bigfoots there, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of surprised that we've seen it. And we
<v Speaker 2>talked about it and hush hush. Yeah, you mean, hush hush.
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't have told me this before we're camping down here.
<v Speaker 2>I probably wouldn't have belied him anyway.
<v Speaker 1>So the people that lived around there knew about these
<v Speaker 1>creatures absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I've taken a lot of reports from that area. Absolutely
<v Speaker 1>hotspot for bigfoot in Missouri. Yeah, and it makes me
<v Speaker 1>wonder maybe the reason conservation doesn't want people to shoot
<v Speaker 1>hogs is so these cryptids have a food source and
<v Speaker 1>they don't target people, kids, dogs.
<v Speaker 4>That's just a theory. I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. They set out hog traps, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And from my understanding, once, once they
<v Speaker 2>set up hog traps, they catch a few hogs. Then
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden they can't catch hogs because the
<v Speaker 2>hogs are smart. They know, Hey, O, our family got
<v Speaker 2>crost the trap here. Maybe we shouldn't go in that trap.
<v Speaker 2>Hogs are smart, I don't They're very smart. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had any other experiences out there in
<v Speaker 1>the forest with Vick You never have. So after this
<v Speaker 1>experience with the hogs and the sasquatch, you contacted Bob,
<v Speaker 1>who's been on my channel before, and you told him, you're.
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah I did, and he laughed. He said, I
<v Speaker 2>told you I thought he was full of crap. He
<v Speaker 2>just feed me a line, you know whatever. And then
<v Speaker 2>come to find out after I talked to a few
<v Speaker 2>people down there. Yeah, yeah, he's down there, and they
<v Speaker 2>know about it, and they leave him alone and and
<v Speaker 2>and uh he controls the hogs.
<v Speaker 1>Uh really yeah, Bigfoot controls the hog population.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was told, man. And uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I never believed in anything like this at all. I
<v Speaker 2>thought he was crazy. My brother lost foot. What are
<v Speaker 2>you talking about? Yeah, it turns out and then I
<v Speaker 2>got telling. Before there was a lady down her named
<v Speaker 2>Christy and uhr. Her son was called the crazy George,
<v Speaker 2>and she she owned Hazelton Springs for years. She had
<v Speaker 2>a trout farm there, and she believe it or not,
<v Speaker 2>she had a fully automatic in sixteen fact, it was
<v Speaker 2>full and uh I used to hunt back there at
<v Speaker 2>Hazelton Springs with George and my my uncle's and uh said,
<v Speaker 2>lady would scaring me. Man. She was from Romania. It's
<v Speaker 2>just she was something Botters reminded me of, like a
<v Speaker 2>like a witch or something. Man. She was she was
<v Speaker 2>just a scary woman. Man, but I used to love
<v Speaker 2>hunting there at Hazelton Springs and uh she she would
<v Speaker 2>always talk about the the uh, the wolf, the wolf
<v Speaker 2>man's around the wolfman. She knew the day that the
<v Speaker 2>wolf man was out, and uh she she would make
<v Speaker 2>these necklaces from from her stepdad Bob and tell them,
<v Speaker 2>you gotta wear them, you gotta wear them. The wolf
<v Speaker 2>man's out to night. And he would say, to man,
<v Speaker 2>she's just crazy to put it on to keep her happy.
<v Speaker 2>Turns out she wasn't so crazy after all. Maybe she
<v Speaker 2>was telling the truth down there and on the big
<v Speaker 2>piney River between Paddy Creek and uh chack Tar Road. Yeah. Uh.
<v Speaker 1>That police officer this past year, he told me that
<v Speaker 1>there's been several dog man sightings out there. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we can't get anyone to openly speak about it, but
<v Speaker 1>apparently there's a lot of werewolf sightings or dog man sightings.
<v Speaker 2>Well, Christie, he used to talk about it all the time.
<v Speaker 4>I know, that's that same area her her or her.
<v Speaker 2>Son ended up committing suicide. And after that, she sold
<v Speaker 2>uh Hazington Springs. I was sure she sold her the
<v Speaker 2>Anhuser Bush or some big water plant or something, a
<v Speaker 2>bottle of water or something. Sold it for like a
<v Speaker 2>million dollars. And she moved from Iron Understanding outter Las Vegas.
<v Speaker 2>But she wasn't scared to talk about it. And I
<v Speaker 2>always thought she was just crazy because I'd be go
<v Speaker 2>over there hunting with George and and uh Jimmy and
<v Speaker 2>uh Terry and and uh she sit there and right,
<v Speaker 2>I didn't talk about it. Y'all, be careful, man, you
<v Speaker 2>know the wolf man's out there, be in here dark
<v Speaker 2>because uh, to be out there at night with wolf man,
<v Speaker 2>he's here. But what is she talking about? Oh? Well,
<v Speaker 2>what I heard. I didn't see nothing from when I heard.
<v Speaker 2>I never heard nothing like that before my life. And
<v Speaker 2>it scared me. Mm And uh, like I said, I'm
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, I've been in the woods all my live,
<v Speaker 2>hunted all my life. I never really I've been in
<v Speaker 2>the woods middle of the nine. And then the really scared
<v Speaker 2>me at all that did that did whatever it was
<v Speaker 2>was after them hogs and came up on us. They
<v Speaker 2>didn't want us there either, did not want us there,
<v Speaker 2>and it it meant it too.
<v Speaker 1>Literally scared the crap out of your dog. Do you
<v Speaker 1>think he was kind of playing dead or do you
<v Speaker 1>think he was.
<v Speaker 2>Like my dog was acting like he was like he
<v Speaker 2>was dead. I never seen nothing like that in my life.
<v Speaker 2>I just the dog. The dog knew that the hogs
<v Speaker 2>were coming for him before I even knew seeing herd
<v Speaker 2>or any of 'em. He just just fell over. He
<v Speaker 2>didn't puke, bow all the way out the bottle and
<v Speaker 2>just lay there. She Stacey had to go in a
<v Speaker 2>briar patch full of stickers to get him out of there,
<v Speaker 2>cause he just laid dead. So when we knew the
<v Speaker 2>hogs were coming, see, he would either do that or
<v Speaker 2>he'd run to the truck and do everything he could
<v Speaker 2>get in that truck and hide.
<v Speaker 4>And you said you camped there for several days. What
<v Speaker 4>day did they come?
<v Speaker 2>Like? Day three?
<v Speaker 4>Day four?
<v Speaker 2>Was the day? Three or four days? Yeah, three or
<v Speaker 2>four days after we're there. I guess with cooking and
<v Speaker 2>food being you know out, I guess do the hogs in.
<v Speaker 2>But that one time it do more than hogs.
<v Speaker 1>That's what got your guys' attention. Where the cooking pots
<v Speaker 1>being rattled around.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was sleeping. I was sleeping about two o'clock
<v Speaker 2>in the morning. She woke me up. You know, shaking me, Bill,
<v Speaker 2>Get up, Get up, Get up. I said, it was raining,
<v Speaker 2>sprinkling a little bit and barely fire going. There's home.
<v Speaker 2>There's hogs everywhere. Open my eyes. And the whole campsite
<v Speaker 2>there was hogs running around, and there was a couple
<v Speaker 2>of little ones and when a little and that that
<v Speaker 2>sow she was huge, biggest sow I ever seen. Well,
<v Speaker 2>she was my monster.
<v Speaker 4>About how big do you think she was?
<v Speaker 2>I believe it or not. She was five hundred pounds,
<v Speaker 2>really huge. I've never seen I tried to have seen
<v Speaker 2>hogs that big on a farm, though in Illinois I've
<v Speaker 2>seen hogs that were the biggest hogs I've ever seen
<v Speaker 2>in my life. But they were on a farm. And
<v Speaker 2>that wild hog was just big and it had had
<v Speaker 2>it was solid black like a Russian boar, but it
<v Speaker 2>was just it was a monster. It was bigg as
<v Speaker 2>in farm hogs i've seen over in Illinois.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe you, And I mean hogs are kind
<v Speaker 1>of a cryptied creature because there's a Monster Quest episode
<v Speaker 1>called I think it's called like Hogzilla. But there's people
<v Speaker 1>in Texas that talk about these giant hogs like up
<v Speaker 1>to like seven hundred pounds or more. There's a few
<v Speaker 1>people that got photos and it's just kind of unbelievable.
<v Speaker 2>This one was huge. I've never seen a hog this
<v Speaker 2>big before, other than, like I said, on the farm
<v Speaker 2>and southern Illinois. But uh, I've always seen them, you know,
<v Speaker 2>dred pounds one hundred and fifty pounds. Yeah, you know
<v Speaker 2>all day long. That one took me by surprise that
<v Speaker 2>when I locked and loaded quick, I didn't I'm pulling trigger.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's kind of like a horror story.
<v Speaker 1>Stacy was telling me that she could there was lightning
<v Speaker 1>that night and whenever the light would flash, that's when
<v Speaker 1>she saw like the shadows.
<v Speaker 2>Of the frogs. Right. But that's how she's a trophy.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they're still out there today.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, unless Conservations went out there and threw traps up. Man,
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of wood man. Yeah. From Jack Tar,
<v Speaker 2>we go down to Paddy Creek. And if you if
<v Speaker 2>you go down Paddy Creek and you'll come to it
<v Speaker 2>to a t and you make it right and you
<v Speaker 2>go down there a little bit and on the right
<v Speaker 2>hand side there's a horse camp and you camp do
<v Speaker 2>the horses. There's a trail you could take if you
<v Speaker 2>make that right, you keep going and it goes way
<v Speaker 2>down and holler and off to the left, there's a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of fields, big piney rivers on that side. But
<v Speaker 2>if you keep on going, it's like a trail. You
<v Speaker 2>can barely get down down it with full drive. And
<v Speaker 2>I made it. I left to come up. Uh looked
<v Speaker 2>like there was a down fence. And I came in
<v Speaker 2>there and the conservation had big hog trap there too,
<v Speaker 2>And uh, so there's hogs everywhere. And that Paddy creeks
<v Speaker 2>probably crow flies seven miles from Jacktar eight miles maybe so.
<v Speaker 2>And there's hogs everywhere. Yeah, And uh from my understanding,
<v Speaker 2>from especially from actually from Fort leander Wood, from Fort
<v Speaker 2>lander Wood all the way to Jacktar. Now there's been sidings.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a lot of land.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can think you're gonna go there and
<v Speaker 1>see a bigfoot, but once you get out there and
<v Speaker 1>see how vast it is, you think to yourself, these
<v Speaker 1>things could be anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, there's a lot a lot of woods, a
<v Speaker 2>lot of woods, a lot of woods.
<v Speaker 4>It's mind blowing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then uh, uh like over world, I forget
<v Speaker 2>what governor, it is, what I can't remember the governor's
<v Speaker 2>name that owns all that property over from if you
<v Speaker 2>go from Edgar Springs down that Spring Creek area, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Spring Creek area, that's but there's been sidings in there
<v Speaker 2>from my understanding, and I've been all up in there too.
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen nothing in there, but just think the
<v Speaker 2>it's all woods from there, oh the way to where
<v Speaker 2>I was, Jack Tar Road.
<v Speaker 1>That's there's been a lot of sightings on the military base.
<v Speaker 1>So you know for a fact the government knows about them.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know they do. I did my basic training
<v Speaker 2>at Fort lander Wood. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Did you ever hear anything while you were there?
<v Speaker 2>I I heard, I heard stories, but they they people
<v Speaker 2>would laugh and that that then I didn't believe it either,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that was what nineteen eighty five and I
<v Speaker 2>did based training. I would just laugh, same whatever. But uh,
<v Speaker 2>turns out made believe right of me. Yeah. And the
<v Speaker 2>other thing is there's just there's a lot of fakes,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fakes. There's too many people seeing stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And now they've they've got they've found hair what unknown
<v Speaker 2>primate DNA? I just I just watched that unknown primate
<v Speaker 2>DNA here in the United States we're getting bigger. We're
<v Speaker 2>getting bigger, We're getting bigger, We're taking down the woods.
<v Speaker 2>At the same time soft squats population they're breeding, getting
<v Speaker 2>bigger and bigger. Well, eventually we're gonna we're gonna start
<v Speaker 2>crossing paths because you know, humans, we just we tear
<v Speaker 2>down everything to build, you know. I I remember I
<v Speaker 2>was when I was a kid. Just try to arnold Missouri.
<v Speaker 2>He used to hunt. But where the old fifty five
<v Speaker 2>scales were? I used to hunt that, Well you can't
<v Speaker 2>now that's all. It's suburban, some divisions everywhere. So we
<v Speaker 2>keep taking up the woods. What you're getting smaller, We're
<v Speaker 2>bound to cross paths. We're getting more and more sightings. Right, So.
<v Speaker 1>That's my thought on It makes sense, and I think
<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening today. And also another thing that helps
<v Speaker 1>is the fact that there's you know, game laws, conservation areas,
<v Speaker 1>national forests where you know, animals are able to live.
<v Speaker 1>Because if there wasn't any you know, protection for wildlife,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we would be seeing dear eagles and
<v Speaker 1>a people.
<v Speaker 2>And I love Missouri Department conservations. They're they're very good
<v Speaker 2>at and they buy land to protect for hunting and
<v Speaker 2>have seasons on it. And uh, I love the conservation
<v Speaker 2>the way they work in Missouri. I don't know about
<v Speaker 2>other states. With the Missouri Department Conservation here they do
<v Speaker 2>a very good job at it. And god, I'm sure
<v Speaker 2>you heard Todd Todd standing out of Canada, all the
<v Speaker 2>research he's done, he's trying, what do you do to
<v Speaker 2>the Canadian government? Tried to get a a protection he
<v Speaker 2>gets him. Man, he's got he's got some video, unbelievable videos,
<v Speaker 2>and people still don't believe and and uh, what's that survivor? Man?
<v Speaker 1>Uh the discovering Bigfoot on Netflix? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Now there are some pretty believable people out there.
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah yeah, And I mean even Jeff Meldrum
<v Speaker 1>and Less Stroud believed Todd standing.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely and if you if you, if you watch his videos, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty awesome. You know, white people don't believe it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it would be just like any any human
<v Speaker 2>you know, we can you know, there's black people, there's
<v Speaker 2>white people, there's brown people people, red hair, brown hair,
<v Speaker 2>black hair. Why can't so squatch be the same way?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 2>I agree, you know, m hm, so someone have more
<v Speaker 2>of an eight face? Can have more of a human face.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's variations there.
<v Speaker 2>The pictures he's got and and the way they're hiding,
<v Speaker 2>the way he's zoomed in, that's real. You know, people
<v Speaker 2>want I believe Todd Standing them are real videos.
<v Speaker 1>You're allowed to have an opinion, and I agree with you.
<v Speaker 1>There's you know, some big YouTube names that say it's
<v Speaker 1>a fake. But there's things that Todd Standing has mentioned,
<v Speaker 1>things that nobody else would know that I heard on
<v Speaker 1>his channel, heard him talk about that I've experienced hear
<v Speaker 1>in Missouri, things that only a Bigfoot researcher would know
<v Speaker 1>who's actually experienced real activity. Because the people that are
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's a hoax, I don't think they've ever
<v Speaker 1>seen them. I think they want to pretend like they
<v Speaker 1>know everything about Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 2>But well, like I said, I never believed, Yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>never I thought people were crazy, come and cut it out. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and then after my experience, what I I didn't have
<v Speaker 2>to see them, I know what I heard.
<v Speaker 1>That's sometimes like you can see them, but when you
<v Speaker 1>hear them, that's just a whole different level.
<v Speaker 2>You know.
<v Speaker 1>That's I mean, I claim and I talk about all
<v Speaker 1>the time of my channel I've heard a dog man
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods next to my house whenever I
<v Speaker 1>was about eleven twelve years old, and this thing holed.
<v Speaker 1>It sounded just like a Hollywood wear a wolf call,
<v Speaker 1>I mean a gut oral. It sounded like it was
<v Speaker 1>being blasted through a giant pa system. That sound scares
<v Speaker 1>me more than the Bigfoot sightings that I had where
<v Speaker 1>I actual she's seen sasquatch. That sound was just like
<v Speaker 1>on a whole other level, just.
<v Speaker 4>Like the what you guys are talking about.
<v Speaker 1>No human or animal could produce something that loud, guttural.
<v Speaker 2>I never I never would have watched anything about Bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>or I would have never watched any of it, but
<v Speaker 2>I do now. I watched it all.
<v Speaker 1>I had experiences like I heard like that sound that
<v Speaker 1>I heard. I've heard the sasquatch scream. It sounds like
<v Speaker 1>a woman being murdered. And I know for a fact
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a mountain lion because it came from like
<v Speaker 1>twelve feet high up in the air at nighttime, right
<v Speaker 1>behind me. And before that, I heard like trees come
<v Speaker 1>crashing down. You know, mountain lion wouldn't do that. But
<v Speaker 1>it just it's mind blowing because until you see one.
<v Speaker 1>You know, your mind just wants to wonder what the
<v Speaker 1>heck that I experienced?
<v Speaker 2>She was she seen him? I haven't. I haven't got
<v Speaker 2>to see one. I would love to see one. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but I heard him and I've never heard nothing like
<v Speaker 2>that for my life, and it was terrifying. I wanted out.
<v Speaker 2>I wanted out out now.
<v Speaker 1>So the hogs were hunting your dog and the food
<v Speaker 1>that you had at camp. But at the same time,
<v Speaker 1>the sasquatch was pursuing the hogs.
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. Because normally
<v Speaker 2>the hogs would stick around, you know, the camp, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and I'll be sitting on top of the truck because
<v Speaker 2>it's so dark where he at, and then you hit
<v Speaker 2>a light, and you know, the hogs moved pretty fast.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I didn't have night vision on my on
<v Speaker 2>my gun or nothing. So you know, we go down.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna get one of these hogs. I'nna
<v Speaker 2>get one, you know, and uh and uh. They would
<v Speaker 2>hang around. This time was different. They came through the camp,
<v Speaker 2>kept going, yeah, because they were being chased by the
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch and the sasquatch seemed we were there and he
<v Speaker 2>he did not want us there. I'm telling you right now,
<v Speaker 2>he did not. It was terrifying. He did not want
<v Speaker 2>us there at all. Yeah, and I do believe that
<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't lay, wouldn't have left. Mm hmm. It might
<v Speaker 2>not have turned out too good.
<v Speaker 4>That's probably two hours or more from here.
<v Speaker 1>But I've stood in that same spot where you had
<v Speaker 1>that experience at. Bob took me there and it's a
<v Speaker 1>prime area. I mean, it's pristine wilderness, a lot of
<v Speaker 1>big pines and it's right off the Big Piney River.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where you guys are standing in. The Big Piney's
<v Speaker 2>on the right. If you look straight ahead, right through there,
<v Speaker 2>that's where it came from. It's got them. If you
<v Speaker 2>look back in there's a big deep like like we're water.
<v Speaker 2>We're running to the river and it's real deep. You know.
<v Speaker 2>He was, he was done in there.
<v Speaker 3>We was.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>There's kind of a bend there too, like oh yeah,
<v Speaker 4>right off the camp.
<v Speaker 2>But right around yeah, because you can you can go out.
<v Speaker 2>We camped at the bottom part there too, you know
<v Speaker 2>where you can come down at that hill to the
<v Speaker 2>river where if you if you come around this way.
<v Speaker 2>You can back in, you can you can get on
<v Speaker 2>that lower spot there. You can park there too. Camp.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, I'm gobout have to go there and camp,
<v Speaker 4>but you're going back.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm gonna be
<v Speaker 2>a loader with bear for bear Jack. I'm tell you
<v Speaker 2>right now forty four mag three or eight thirty odd
<v Speaker 2>and six just in case, that whole area. I'm not
<v Speaker 2>taking chance because this thing, it means business. If we
<v Speaker 2>don't want you there, get out. He's telling you, get out,
<v Speaker 2>get out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right. Well, I appreciate you for
<v Speaker 1>sharing that encounter that person. And you know, I've been
<v Speaker 1>waiting a long time to talk with you. I didn't
<v Speaker 1>think we'd ever get to talk. But when you got
<v Speaker 1>a hold of me and said come on down, I
<v Speaker 1>got excited, right yeah, And I wanted to make some
<v Speaker 1>corrections on a few of them, you know.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I apologize if I got some things.
<v Speaker 2>You know, some people you know, I've read some of
<v Speaker 2>the counts. Some people said, you know, or there was
<v Speaker 2>a talk about I was reading that did so squads
<v Speaker 2>really want to save them from the hogs?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 2>Hell no, he wanted us out because we were between
<v Speaker 2>him him chasing his hogs. That's what I gathered. He
<v Speaker 2>was after the hogs and we were in between there.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't like it.
<v Speaker 4>Well, I appreciate you for clearing that up.
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. I appreciate everything you do. Man. You
<v Speaker 2>take the time you interview these people, You drive all
<v Speaker 2>I watched watch you on YouTube all the time. You
<v Speaker 2>drive all over the place, and that takes that takes time,
<v Speaker 2>it takes money. That takes you know, a lot. And
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate everything you do. I really do. And the
<v Speaker 2>truth's gonna come out. And the other people that don't believe,
<v Speaker 2>they find they find new creatures all the time, especially
<v Speaker 2>in South America. It's gonna come out. We're dealing with
<v Speaker 2>something that's smart.
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, Well, if you come over this way and
<v Speaker 3>he looks right through these trees, there's this dark cedar tree.
<v Speaker 3>It's probably the tallest one you can see right there.
<v Speaker 3>It's probably I don't know how far out that is.
<v Speaker 3>What was it about twenty forty probably about fifty feet
<v Speaker 3>out right right around in there. Said, it's been about
<v Speaker 3>four years ago, and I know I was right at
<v Speaker 3>this turn, and I don't remember around the side of
<v Speaker 3>the trade or tree or this side of theater tree,
<v Speaker 3>but either way you can see it. It came out
<v Speaker 3>from right there. Because all I saw was it drop.
<v Speaker 3>That's what got my attention was was it falling? It dropping,
<v Speaker 3>it bounding, And because it hit, because there was a
<v Speaker 3>such a clear line of sight, there was no leaves
<v Speaker 3>in the tree. And like I said, it's so dark
<v Speaker 3>back in here in this thicket that you know, after
<v Speaker 3>a couple of bounds, all you could hear, you lose
<v Speaker 3>sight of things quickly. All you can hear is crashing.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, and it was crashing because it was running.
<v Speaker 3>And then the kids started chattering, and you know, and
<v Speaker 3>then I'm like, what did I just see? You know,
<v Speaker 3>And and so at the same time, you know, didn't
<v Speaker 3>want to scare of them, but also it's just it's
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea that was watching us, and it
<v Speaker 3>had to be watching us to see us, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, it'd come in off the trail, and
<v Speaker 3>because like I said, right here, it was this close
<v Speaker 3>to the trail and we were just right over there, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>right over there camping are going to camp, And so
<v Speaker 3>where it was between him and there, I don't know
<v Speaker 3>if it was from there for place to hide, and
<v Speaker 3>if it was spooked or if it because it felt
<v Speaker 3>like it I was numbered, But it showed no signs
<v Speaker 3>of aggression. It just kind of fell out of the
<v Speaker 3>tree sideways like this. It was facing this way, and
<v Speaker 3>then as soon as it leapt up, it bounded and
<v Speaker 3>it put its back at the trees. And all you
<v Speaker 3>could hear was the crashing. But I mean it was
<v Speaker 3>it was a singular experience. Uh, it was the scene
<v Speaker 3>because it was on two feet, you know. It wasn't
<v Speaker 3>like it didn't even have its hands on the ground
<v Speaker 3>when it when it came out of the tree. However
<v Speaker 3>far it was up, I don't I don't even know.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was hanging on or what.
<v Speaker 3>But it it it never touched the ground with its hands,
<v Speaker 3>only its feet did It didn't even propel off the
<v Speaker 3>ground with its hands, Like I said, it's it's kind
<v Speaker 3>of like its body. Can see it absorbed a shock
<v Speaker 3>and then run in one motion.
<v Speaker 4>Did it jump up though after it hit the ground.
<v Speaker 3>It bounded it like it bounded up like you is
<v Speaker 3>that Like its knees were bent and it used the
<v Speaker 3>the the force, you know, what I mean in its
<v Speaker 3>body to push itself back up because there were strengthen
<v Speaker 3>those legs because I mean just the fluid that you know,
<v Speaker 3>it was an animal grace. It was an animal grace
<v Speaker 3>and a powerful motion at the same time.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yeah, that's incredible.
<v Speaker 1>And we're right off the trail and the creek where
<v Speaker 1>the river is just right there, and then there's the
<v Speaker 1>parking lot, so it had have been watching the trail.
<v Speaker 3>Right there is where we were camped. Really yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>mean we were a couple hundred feet from this place,
<v Speaker 3>so it may have even been over here seeing what
<v Speaker 3>we were doing.
<v Speaker 4>You know, did you guys have food?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we I hadn't cooked it yet. We were
<v Speaker 3>actually a good firewood. And if we didn't even say
<v Speaker 3>it got started getting dusky and we're like, okay, we're
<v Speaker 3>gone now. Just because we had two little kids with us.
<v Speaker 3>The smallest one she was three, and you know, we
<v Speaker 3>had her in a stroke and so that way kind
<v Speaker 3>of keep an eye on her and it's easier to
<v Speaker 3>push her, and she liked me to push, so, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And then we had the six year old and it
<v Speaker 3>they felt safe because we didn't make a big deal
<v Speaker 3>about it. But I think we were all processing, you know,
<v Speaker 3>because kids are you know, their mom's mom and dad.
<v Speaker 3>They're safe and uh, but I I was still kind
<v Speaker 3>of it's it's singular. It's singular, you know. But I
<v Speaker 3>didn't have that feeling of hostility that the other one
<v Speaker 3>that uh, that malevolent intent, Like I don't know that
<v Speaker 3>one was that was that was the animal, you know,
<v Speaker 3>that drive that like I said, I was pray. I
<v Speaker 3>felt that I was pray, and but this one didn't.
<v Speaker 3>It just it bounded off and ran, it crashed that way.
<v Speaker 3>But it's just uncomfortable knowing that it was probably watching.
<v Speaker 3>And then you think about things like child is small,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's it's a scary thought to think
<v Speaker 3>because they're not. It's an animal. If it is an
<v Speaker 3>easy meal, it's going to take it, whether it's a
<v Speaker 3>two year old or three year old, you know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean, passama raccoon, a dog, a puppy, or your
<v Speaker 3>leftovers at a campsite.
<v Speaker 2>YEA.
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it got distracted or do you think
<v Speaker 1>it intentionally did that to let you guys know it
<v Speaker 1>was there.
<v Speaker 3>I think that we scared it. I think I think
<v Speaker 3>it's what it is because my daughter she stopped and
<v Speaker 3>mummy and and it scared her. So whatever she had seen,
<v Speaker 3>because I didn't see. I didn't see that because I
<v Speaker 3>was pushing and I was just I had to come
<v Speaker 3>by the trees. And that's what caused us to stop
<v Speaker 3>and to look that way. And I think that when
<v Speaker 3>we all stopped, and because like they're smart creatures, you know,
<v Speaker 3>when it saw it's all looking where it was, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, that it's instinct to get out
<v Speaker 3>was triggered, you know. And I think that's probably what
<v Speaker 3>it was, just because there's four of us one of it,
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it, like I said, it wasn't It
<v Speaker 3>may have been. I don't know. I don't know how
<v Speaker 3>old they are, you know, but I mean just the
<v Speaker 3>thin ranginess of it. It didn't have, you know, like
<v Speaker 3>a bulk of you know, like in a pack of
<v Speaker 3>alphas or a pack of wolves, there's like the big one,
<v Speaker 3>which is your alpha usually, and then there's like the
<v Speaker 3>small little ones that are scraggly because you don't get
<v Speaker 3>less graps or whatever. But it didn't have that huge,
<v Speaker 3>aggressive like defiant thing. It just wanted gone, you know
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. So I think that instinct that it
<v Speaker 3>was out numbered. Maybe you know, and it knew that
<v Speaker 3>it knew that it but by the way, it wasn't
<v Speaker 3>It was just interested, curious what we were doing.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's what it sounds like.
<v Speaker 1>And they say that humans are their entertainment. But like
<v Speaker 1>you said, you know, are they targeting the kids, the dogs,
<v Speaker 1>the food? I think that's most likely the case.
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I mean they're curious too.
<v Speaker 3>They're curious. But then I mean the curuarly they study.
<v Speaker 3>They are clearly they study people enough to kind of
<v Speaker 3>do they have an idea of what to run from,
<v Speaker 3>what to watch for if people stop and look at
<v Speaker 3>you to run or like they hide they hide in inside.
<v Speaker 3>They can you know, I mean think about it. Something
<v Speaker 3>the color of a tree at dark, if it just
<v Speaker 3>stands there and closes its eyes, you know, you're not
<v Speaker 3>gonna see the sheet of it, you know, because the
<v Speaker 3>lights are gonna bounce off of it, and it looks
<v Speaker 3>it blends in with everything else in the woods surrounding,
<v Speaker 3>you know. I mean they're smart.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you never moved, you would have never seen them.
<v Speaker 3>No, And that's what that's what drew my eye, was
<v Speaker 3>that it the movement, like I said, and it's such
<v Speaker 3>dark thick woods back in there. I mean, that's hugely
<v Speaker 3>dark thick woods. So it might have been a little
<v Speaker 3>further out than forty feet twenty forty So maybe I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, forty to sixty feet somewhere where that tree
<v Speaker 3>is there, but it's I mean, it's not that far
<v Speaker 3>with something with with that that height and power, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. If it would have came at us,
<v Speaker 3>it would have been honest in a second.
<v Speaker 4>So well, I'm glad everything was all right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it went its own way, because yeah, the other
<v Speaker 1>way the thing would have came towards you.
<v Speaker 4>That would have been freaky.
<v Speaker 3>That would have been Yeah, that would have been I
<v Speaker 3>like I said, we were going to get camp wood,
<v Speaker 3>and I had them a sheddy with me, and so
<v Speaker 3>you know that kind of me. You know, my older child,
<v Speaker 3>a little one, she didn't know to be afraid or
<v Speaker 3>not afraid. She's just see allso some big but you know,
<v Speaker 3>the reaction of everybody else.
<v Speaker 1>You know, makes you wonder how many times these things
<v Speaker 1>are out there right next to people's camps and they
<v Speaker 1>have no idea.
<v Speaker 3>Oh I know for a fact that first one that
<v Speaker 3>very first wom than I ever heard it. It was
<v Speaker 3>because I saw the footprint. It was closer than what
<v Speaker 3>Bill is to me right now from where we were,
<v Speaker 3>And so how long it had been there, I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>I might have been edging closer while the dog was
<v Speaker 3>pushing it in the tent you know I was in.
<v Speaker 3>That would have been because he was trying to get
<v Speaker 3>closer to protection. But it's incredible. Really that's intelligence. That's intelligence,
<v Speaker 3>and it's something that big with intelligence is terrifying. They're
<v Speaker 3>not just acting on nature like a like a you know,
<v Speaker 3>a bear has a habit because it's a habit of
<v Speaker 3>lion has a nature because it's it's a line. Not
<v Speaker 3>necessarily have it, but you know it's their nature is
<v Speaker 3>to be one way.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they got a primal instinct.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and these with an intelligent kind of you know,
<v Speaker 3>going hand in hand. It's that it's that stalking. I mean,
<v Speaker 3>that's it's the feeling of being stalked, you know what
<v Speaker 3>I mean, That's what it is. It's just and you
<v Speaker 3>know your prey. You know, you're not the top of
<v Speaker 3>the food chain anymore. You're just not you're the hunted.
<v Speaker 3>You've now been hunted, and the fact that they can hide,
<v Speaker 3>they can watch you and you'll never know it. That's
<v Speaker 3>an excellent hunter and that's.
<v Speaker 4>Scary, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Bill Stacy, thank you so much for openly sharing your
<v Speaker 1>big foot encounters and experiences with me here on Sasquatch Theory,
<v Speaker 1>and it was an absolute pleasure.
<v Speaker 4>To meet up with you guys.
<v Speaker 1>They were both extremely polite and I had a blast
<v Speaker 1>exploring the conservation area and hopefully next time we can
<v Speaker 1>meet up and go further down the trails. You certainly
<v Speaker 1>get a feeling in the Missouri forest that you're being
<v Speaker 1>watched by something. Maybe it's a deer, maybe it's a
<v Speaker 1>mountain lion, and possibly it could be a cryptid creature.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you everyone for tuning in today and I appreciate
<v Speaker 1>everyone's support.
<v Speaker 4>Take care and until the next one.