Claudia does BravoCon + RHOP Recap with Dustin

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here, Claudia, you were in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I want to start this conversation rain Drops by talking about Bravo CoV before I get to all the tea that came out of it that I was waiting for all weekend to talk to Dustin.

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Speaker 2: Claudia about Tadia. You were there live in action. You look gorgeous. Padia is so sweet.

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Speaker 1: She took videos of the rain draw talk about how much they love our Monday night show and how much they adore our recaps.

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Speaker 2: But Claudia pack the picture now was.

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Speaker 3: It never been a Bravocan And I'm like, Damn, I wish Bravokan was around when I was on at the height of Housewives because you get so much love. But even though I'm ten years removed, the enthusiasm was through the roof, Like because a lot of the housewives don't walk around Bravo kan they are very much They'll come off for our panel and then they'll go to, you know, a booth or something, but they're not walking around amongst the people like that, so they're very excited when they do get to touch and say something to someone that like it's a big deal, Like it's a really big you know, and I you know me, I'm with the people like I always love that, Like I'm not the security keep me away, No, come on, let's take a picture. And when I tell you like hearing straight from the fans of housewives, they're so funny. Every single one of them told me they watch Monday Night Lives. Every single one of them was like they will hold when you were there, they will like I love them. I watch every Monday Night and I'm like yes, And I'm like, well, I said, do you mind if I get you on videos? I got a few, but what I sent you out was a small representation of all the people that stopped me and talk about the show, and not only the fans watch the show, but all the girls on the show watch the show like I. I won't say who, but a few of the new few housewives i've you know started following me from Potomac, which I I love that, like they are watching what we say, they are watching what we think, and it was amazing. I Drew my cousin, Drew, you know, the Jordan family. We kept missing each other, but we were texting to all and trying to meet up because she was like, imagine if we walked around together. She wanted to do that, but it was just my feet were hurting too. But it was just too much. It was like overwhelming. But I think it's something that if we went to next year, Gay will go crazy. We should definitely have a little set up there and.

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Speaker 4: Just I would love to go to work next year. Will come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see Dustin and you actually Claudia to moderate panels.

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Speaker 2: Would I would? I would.

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Speaker 1: I would personally take my depth a card white to see Claudia and dust and moderate the Atlanta panel panel. I would.

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Speaker 2: I would only want to be the audience and it would be you.

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Speaker 3: Know, we've kept it very much a block with all the Housewives shows and there may be some people that may feel like it's you know that may not be the biggest fans of some of the things we said, but we would it would be a very honest panel. Wouldn't be one of them fake ask kiss and ones, or wouldn't be hostile just to have a moment. It would be honest. We're not on that, you know, we're not trying to got you moment. It'd be like honest, like yo, let's ask.

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Speaker 4: They had that.

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Speaker 5: They had the radio host Kiki Monique shout out to her right, but she was heavily featured in this season of Orange County uh in a capacity, we'll just say that, and they had she was moderating on the main stage and she so, I don't think we've said anything too controversial, you know what I'm saying that if Kiky Monique's ask can get up there on the stage, I'm sure we'll with open arms.

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Speaker 1: I'm advocating for Claudia and Dustin to host a panel.

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Speaker 3: We can do it. We'll give them a good rate.

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Speaker 2: M No, because listen, a lot of things try to spin this weekend. Speaking of your cousin juic So Dora.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I if there.

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Speaker 2: Was an award for the most improved housewife. It would be juice of Dora.

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Speaker 6: To be able to knock out two of your components in one breath is what housewives are made up, especially in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: So rain drops. In case you missed my recop up for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta panel that included Drew, Angela Oakley, Poorsha Phaedra.

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Speaker 2: I hate when this.

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Speaker 4: Happens Mea, Kelly, Cynthia, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, we get I'm checking out our levels after Claudia. So with that being said, the Panama hosted by the amazing journalist.

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Speaker 2: Wait Zi.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Oh, sorry, so, Zuri Hall Di Perton. We'll get to that later. Former Bachelorette Rachel Lindsley, Thank you. Dustin moderated the panel and baby Drew Sodora read the fuck out of Shamia, who she called Shassi and Kelly. She pretty much said to them, Claudia and Dustin, you know, listen, me.

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Speaker 2: And Shamia have a performance. We're performing later.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why she thinks, you know, she's all of that when both me and Kate Michelle sings better than her. She also said that look when it comes to Kelly's restaurant, Nana's Chicken of waffle.

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Speaker 2: She prefers waffle House.

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Speaker 7: She gathered them a one punch and at that moment I said, Juice a Dora Center Peach Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Woman, you are Claudia because that's your cousin.

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Speaker 1: How proud are you of how Drew has emerged as a shade assassin.

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Speaker 3: I am so proud. But that's that Jordan blood, you know. I mean, look at the other grades out there. Michael B. Jordans, Michael Jordans, we are Claudia Jordan ju one of the biggest clutch. I mean, she she really won to the end, even of Jordan's all beautiful people that will you know, they want that smoke. I'm very proud of her. I know we have spoken before privately in our group text about advice we would give to Drew, like as like, hey, man, tell your cousin she'd better step up. I don't need to. I don't need to, because, oh, cousin, I'm very proud of you, and I will be down there to do a scene with you when you hours resume filming. We have talked about it. We're gonna do a little Sun Sun together. But I'm very proud of her because before, when I really wasn't watching the show, I would always hear about Drew getting dragged. They drag her for her or she dresses, they drag her for line, they drag her for this, that and the third. And I think it kind of like it created a monster in a way because she took a lot of those hits and she was able to chill, a marinate. And I don't think she's as emotionally triggered as some of the others now because she's used to but them coming for her. And when you are just like used to taking arrows in your back, arrows, arrows incoming fire from all angles, we do develop a thicker skin. She doesn't look out reactionary. Some of the other girls get like I love Samia, but she reacts when people come to her, Kelly, they all react, brick react. She's a queen of reacting, just overreacting. Drew will take the hit and then give you a very poise yet precise clap back back where you look stupid. And I always say this, whoever controls their emotions won the fight. So now Drew, all those years of y'all dragging her. You have created this, y'all helps her become this because now y'all should don't get to her like I used to. She's used to having a target on her back, so she's handling y'all, and I'm here for it. I love it, Cousin Drew, I can I cannot wait for the next family reunion. We will have nice Kiki.

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Speaker 2: DiCaprio.

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Speaker 3: Are thoughts not just Ario?

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Speaker 4: That's right, Okay, get on my titany now.

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Speaker 5: I was very, very very proud of what I say saw from Druce Sodora on that on that stage at Bravo Cohn during that Viva Loss Atlanta Peaches panel. Okay, I was very impressed by what I saw quick on her.

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Speaker 4: Feet in real time in the moment.

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Speaker 5: Could it have been pre prepared maybe, you know what I'm saying, but hey, it worked. It landed as one of the people who was a part of some of the initial I'm not gonna say dragon of Drew, but I definitely had critique.

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Speaker 3: For her, right right you were, and I did to Dustin.

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Speaker 1: I said that it was giving Tyler Perry's.

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Speaker 4: In the beginning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and shit, some of the critique was was healthy, right because there was a vicious critique on like some of her styling choices and ship. Drew's a beautiful woman who we've loved from many projects before the Housewives of Atlanta, right, She's been around acting for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: People wanted to see her at her best.

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Speaker 5: If she was gonna come into this environment in space, and what we saw on that stage at Brabo Kan was or at her best.

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Speaker 4: She looked good, she sounded good, she was composed and.

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Speaker 5: Poised, just like Claudia just said, all the elements it takes to be the victor, and you know that inverbal sparring that they do on the Housewives shows and on those.

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Speaker 4: Stages, and it was good to see, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: She tortured me and Kelly asses up and they were sitting right next to her, immediately to her right and left when she did it, so she was pointing from side to side and elbow linked gloves.

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Speaker 4: It was perfect. It was perfect. So shout out to Drew.

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Speaker 5: That's what we wanted to see, and it made her appear to be on even footing with the rest of some of the veterans on the stage. Right when it comes to being able to withstand all that people forget. Drew as a child actor like Claudia says, she's had a lot of practice with rejection and being scrutinized, being under scrutiny, you know. So that's nothing new for her, and I'm so glad that this finally clicked in her head how to take with her all her experiences bring them into the housewives space and play the game the right way. We're now getting to see that, and I love it. I'm glad she tore them up. She started on that reunion last year when they had that yellow one. I did not like her dress, but that's okay, I have to wear the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So she said on the end of that couch and tore their ass up that whole region. Yes, I told you she was on that couch the whole time, you know, going off, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So I was.

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Speaker 3: Happy in the world of track and feels like, you know, they always put the uh, the the people with the hot the fastest times in the middle lanes. That's a favorable lane, lane three, four and five. You want to be in, and when you're on the outside you're a long shot to win because you are at a disadvantage. You're away from the package at your back or away in front of you, like lane eight, lane one. They basically put Drew in lane eight and she still won. And that you have to be so good and focused to be away right like you know, you're already going there with the disc managed mentally, because what's the thing that people always talk about, Oh, who's sitting in seat number one, the closest hand in the season, And so you going there like, oh, okay, that's what they think of me. They're putting me on the outside like iron ship or I didn't really bring it this season. So for you to get there, overcome the psychological downgrade they give to you, and then still light.

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Speaker 4: Them up happy to see you.

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Speaker 3: Imagine how she's gonna be this year when she rightfully isn't well. I still I still think they're gonna do a journey. They have some thing against her for some reason. But if she's even one seed in, she's gonna violate.

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Speaker 1: Based on what based on what I've seen and listen, I said this, it's no secret. Whoever gets the first seed, you are considered the star of the season. It's not a secret. All shows do.

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Speaker 5: That, which is crazy because they had Jin in the first seed on O seed, but that's another.

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Speaker 4: Should have been anyway. But we'll talk.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay, thank you baby, So I are with you. I will say this, I listen, we'll.

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Speaker 1: See the season and I won't say this, and we'll get to Potomac. One thing about this show that I love the most is the fact that it's unlike any other show where we just don't talk about the scenes and move on. We really do have a healthy, educated conversation on you know, the state of the industry, reality, the casts, and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Which is romber giving Drew her much deserved flowers.

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Speaker 1: I want Drew as of now we'll see the season to have first chair with the reunion.

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Speaker 2: I think she deserves it. She had it before. But I think Drew.

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Speaker 1: I think Drew is Atlanta's shade assassin because she does in the Apolis way, and I think we need to really look out for her. What I will say is this, the biggest buzz Bramo Cotton had to me was Atlanta. M hm. You guys can tell me your thoughts from that too. There is something about Atlanta. That just creates a firestorm of conversation. As as we get to recap Potomac later in this episode. It did make me think too, like there is something about that show and the other shows to where it moves me. It gives me something that to anticipate. And we'll get into the Potomac panel too. But it didn't have any bus and but Atlanta did, and it made me miss Atlanta. And as we're going to get in to Potomac, which, by the way, Patoma's a good show.

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Speaker 2: It's a good season. Shout out to the production in the cast.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the spark isn't there when it comes to Potomac. There's nothing that I'm rushing home to, like, I can't wait to see this.

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Speaker 2: You can say what you want.

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Speaker 1: By last seasons Atlanta Housewives, that was musty fucking TV. Yeah, I think I think the three of us, if I could speak for the three of us, I think we got our rocks off waiting every Monday to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about the kingion of it all, the brit of it all, the Shanmia versus portion of it all.

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Speaker 1: You don't like conversation, it was, it activated the three of us in a way that that I think we just had the best time doing again for Toma's spine. But Atlanta just has something that I feel like all shows should take note of. And I'm looking forward to Atlanta and I want Atlanta back on my motherfucking TV screen tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Claudia.

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Speaker 3: It was a big poster when you first walk in to Bravo Khan and it's like, maybe, I don't know, fifty feet wat long of all the headshots of like the housewives, right, all the Bravo talent, and of all the people right of all the housewives. Guess who was front and center if you picked one housewife of all the house Nope, Leini wasn't even on there. Nope, a person again. Angela Oakley was the middle photo. They had all the housewives of all the franchises. Okay, not not past but current, right, you know, they had all them up there and front dead center middle was Angela Oakley of all of them. I thought that nothing like that happens by accident, right, everything is thought about. When they it was like all the yes, it's you walk into the convention center and you look up and there's like maybe forty of them of the Bravo Talent and Angela Oakley was in the middle and you know, and I was like, wow, that was kind of you know, I don't really know a lot of the white ladies on the other shows. Like when you'll be mentioning people, I'm like, who Who's that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know them, So I don't know her. My Mariah Carey voice, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know her.

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Speaker 5: I know one you need to know, and that's Bronwen Newport from Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 4: Because bron went down.

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Speaker 5: On the ass Claudia in a way that you would appreciate. She just packed up this friend of the show saw Lake named Brittany, who went with an extra like a bonus osma.

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Speaker 4: She was like kind of dating him or whatever. On the show.

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Speaker 5: Long story short, she made a joke that she constantly makes about Bronwin's clothes being constume in our fashion. Bronwen is sitting on the stage Claudia in a huge polka dot cuture outfit with a big ass hat right literally sitting like she got dropped into the clothes, and Brittany makes her joke. The camera cuts straight to bron When Claudia, she goes, Oh, Brittany, I'm so glad that I can make you relevant with your little joke. You know, every time I see you, I'm a new cuture here you come with the same old tire read and the whole Yeah, bar wa, Kindie erupted it. You gotta see it. She's like us, like you will like Bronwin Newport. So that's a that's a white one to watch.

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Speaker 3: And there's no lady. Let me tell you something, the white lady love. I was getting in there all all my white queen's out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all gave me life. And they were so funny, like they were like, why are you not on a housewives? Will you go? Are you? Are you here because you're coming back? You know, they talk about you all the time. And I'm like, listen, I'm not here for that. Do you watch Monday Night Live? And do you watch accidentally formed? They said, yeah, they watched the show, and I was like, okay, but I want to get more familiar with some of the others. And I did see the trailer. They did play the trailer of Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Did you see that?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Oh good?

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Speaker 2: How rich the richness?

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Speaker 1: I felt like I was watching where Megan Mark and Prince Harry was staying.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like the architectural of the house was so massive.

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Speaker 1: And look that's how break the wealth back to it was like eight.

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Speaker 3: Rhode Island has very, very very wealthy people and then very poor. There's a street of boulevard actually ten miles drive in Newport, Rhode Island, and all of us that grew up in Rhode Island, a lot of us have our palms there and they have insane mansions that like the Vanderbilts would own. Taylor Swift has a house there. We can you can drive right by Taylor Swift's home when I go home. My mom's like, there's where Taylor Swift lives. She has a house there. Extreme wealth where some of the mansions are so expensive that the families couldn't keep them up that they are now they're tourist attractions like they're owned by I guess maybe the I don't know what it is. But when I tell you wealth like England, like artifacts like golds on the walls, bullshit that Trump has put in the white up rush, real gold chandeliers overlooking a cliff. Uh, you know, firecliff mansion. I'm telling you, I don't know who these ladies. I do. I've been going from Rde Island for a while, but there is a lot of wealth in Rhode Island, Old New England money, Pilgrim money. Going back to England.

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Speaker 1: I can tell about the houses. I'm looking forward to it. I'm a big Jersey fan. Shout out to Teresa and her brother Joe for reuniting.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what happens with that.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get the wealth of Beverly Hills and probably more, and the attitude and the rat white ratchetness of a real Housewives of New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: I'm with it. I'm with it.

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Speaker 5: I've been excited about it since they announced that that franchise, that that that new franchise was coming.

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Speaker 4: I'm with it.

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Speaker 3: It's very hard to tell who's they all look.

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Speaker 4: Like Glorious there.

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Speaker 5: One lady on the cast looked exactly like Dolorous from New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: In the trailer, they were like, we were friends.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 5: I know we got to move on because we got to pack agenda tonight. But have you guys heard any of these rumors? We never talk about rumors and any of that ship scuttle. But but let's do it for a second, because I'm hearing a lot about a Houston based franchise. So I'm hearing a lot about that. What are you hearing, Carlos in the streets.

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Speaker 2: Of eyes lit up?

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Speaker 4: Are you hearing?

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Speaker 5: I know if you obviously any official correspondence you've heard off the record, you can't share, right, But are people far off with that? Or is there are there more new you know, cities coming or new franchises coming?

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Speaker 4: One specifically, I.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes frequent Giselle's word on the street block Yes. I sometimes play I'm a Joyce Hood reporting yes on my YouTube.

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Speaker 2: So as I'm in the streets of.

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Speaker 1: Reality television, I heard the same thing as well.

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Speaker 2: I've heard the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Really, I'm hearing all black casts too, That's what I've been hearing.

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Speaker 2: Claudia, what times your doctor's appointment? Is it?

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Speaker 4: That means all right, I'm not doing this. Bring it on.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a great time for a new all black franchise. I think it's a great time for new franchises period within the Housewives universe. Look how Sart Lake City came out of nowhere and just blew us all away. So I think Rhode Island has that potential. And I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: With all that medical money, all them doctors.

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Speaker 5: And ship in the Houston area, I feel like we can, you know, we can really get some rolling down in Houston.

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Speaker 3: So because the way they fumbled Dallas with them try ass casts and they got mad when I said this before, and I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 2: Who got mad.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Carrie got mad at me because she thought she took it. I was. I was talking about her. But I was like that they would have the show would have been canceled. They had more spice. I know a lot of wealthy black women that were interviewed for the show, and they just kept they just kept passing on them. I actually had an interview with them as well. But I got it right when I started Fox Soul and so they they would always every year entertain testing and then no one ever get added. So when it got canceled, you know, you know, I said my ship, I was like, well there's a lot of talent here. They could have would have been spicier. It could add some spice, and Carrie decided to jump out and be like, well we had a you know, I'm like, first of all, calm down your name, calm down, calm down with the four hundred thousand views because we had ten x at in season seven and that was your peak and that was you know. But anyways, we're all good. Now, we're cool. Now we haven't meetual friends. I try to keep if the truth all to do change your truth. If we reporting on your truth bothers, you then change your truth. You you felt like you want to pop up to me. I had nothing. I wasn't talking about her individually. I would I would never put that weight of one person's back on a franchise.

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Speaker 5: It yes, for reason no, but but I do want.

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Speaker 3: To carry I see you out.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Us who are the Dallas Wing and Andrew carry list. I'll say this, I enjoyed and it's gonna be a very controversial statement.

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Speaker 2: It's fine this show, but like does that? I like Dallas.

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Speaker 1: The first couple of seasons that showed to me worked because of locking.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it is what it is, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they needed more Leanzo. They only had one person, needed more or someone to like yeah, like not just one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Charlene.

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Speaker 2: Those girls were lost.

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Speaker 1: They literally was lost without her. They didn't know what to do because she activated all of them. She was great television. And I'm gonna leave it at that. At the end of the day, it went to show that that world. I'll say that world because Audia's point. They did pick a world of prenticeships in that particular group instead of expanding outside of the social scene of charitable you know, events, because that was the focus.

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Speaker 2: Of that show.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I don't care how rich you are and all the money. If you ain't good TV, your money needs nothing.

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Speaker 4: You suck.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you when it comes to that, I want to talk about let's do this.

00:25:51
Speaker 1: As I always looked at the Brava con clips. I don't want to get your thoughts because obviously I don't know y'all.

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Speaker 2: Keep it a buck. I could not help but think of Nini Leaks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when I say that, I'm being very honest, And I talked about this my podcast over the weekend. I put myself in ninie shoes, and I was wondering, how does she feel when she watches these clips of these women being celebrated and being heralded. And Claudia, who obviously I will always consider it to be an iconic force on the show. Claudia getting mobbed after being on the show one season. I wondered, Wow, if Nini was there and you see the franchise grow, And I thought about Kenya, and I thought about those two women, particularly because.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I just felt sad, and this is me.

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Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to the two of them, so trust me, this is only coming from me. I thought about Nini and Kenya a lot, two women who I felt break by Brick built that show, you know, and were synonymous with the success of it. And you know, Vicky gobbleson is got asked back for season twenty of OC, and congratulations to her as well. But you know, if I'm being completely honest, I thought about men and I thought about.

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Speaker 4: You know, her attitude during season eleven and twelve.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about it, let's have a conversation. I just thought about, how do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: But I did think about the fact that, look, everybody has done something or says something that they would want to take back, and I'm not here to speak on that on people's intentions. I would go on the record saying I have not spoken to anybody about this, neither.

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Speaker 2: Do I want to be. It's not my business.

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Speaker 1: You know, I better tell you about how I feel about when people come from me. So I'm definitely gonn step at anyone else's shit. But I just felt that because I sometimes look as a viewer and as a viewer, and I just I don't know, I really thought about her.

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Speaker 2: I thought about Kenya, and I thought about like their.

00:28:18
Speaker 1: Legacy and what will make of their legacy. So you know, Dusin, what are your thoughts on that, Like, do you feel like the legacy of Nini and Kenya.

00:28:31
Speaker 2: Will be erased?

00:28:33
Speaker 4: I don't think it can be.

00:28:34
Speaker 5: Number one, I don't think it's possible for erasure, true erasure to happen of their impact to the Real Housewives of Atlanta and to Bravo as a network and everything else else that is affected there after. But listen, I'm looking at it as a fan as well, I guess from my commentary, and I appreciate everything you just said because just like you mentioned Nini Leaks and Kenya Moore two examples of women who have greatly impacted the success of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, and it would make sense for them to be included in the celebration of that world.

00:29:09
Speaker 4: Right.

00:29:10
Speaker 5: However, as a viewer, we were set through season eleven at the reunion where Nini sat there and refuse to engage with any of her cast members. We set through her in season twelve, slamming the computer down during the virtual reunion, refusing to participate, spitting Sunflower Seeds and her castmates. Then she had personal issues that we know she was in some sort of legal engagement of the network and of NBC Universal. She's made several comments that were and not alleged right. These are directly from her accounts. She's made the comments that were extreme to say the least, you know, so there's obviously a path back from that.

00:29:51
Speaker 4: I don't know what that path looks like for her. I hope they figure.

00:29:54
Speaker 5: It out because I miss seeing her on TV on Bravo specifically. Nini Leaks is an immensely talent to television personality. She's a great actor. She proved that during her time on a New Normal on NBC. She really showed her acting chops and so there's talent there, you know, two time Broadway performer.

00:30:13
Speaker 4: There's things that Nini could be doing.

00:30:15
Speaker 5: I just could be doing rather And as a viewer and as someone who was a fan of Nini, especially the early seasons one through six, I don't know why things stalled out completely in her camp. One of the best parts about being a fan of Needing Leaks was watching her.

00:30:31
Speaker 4: Achieve things that people didn't see possible for her.

00:30:35
Speaker 5: We loved seeing her go do other shit, be on other shows, you know, exist in other spaces and entertainment.

00:30:41
Speaker 4: That was part of the fun.

00:30:43
Speaker 5: So when her attitude started stinking, when she started fumbling what doing what looked like her fumbling opportunities and shit, it was confusing for all of us. So I'm with you. I want to see a redemption arc for her. I think she deserves it based on her talent alone. Real talk, fuck how you feel about her personality. Ninia is talented and she really should be working and we should be enjoying her talents more. There's got to be a line there for the personal and the professional, and I think sometimes that can be blurred as a reality star, but you have to work ten times. It's hard to define that and keep it separated. Like that song sit, you got to keep it separated, you know what I'm saying. Hopefully still see success, but it would have been nice to see her included. Now Kenya Moore, that's a different conversation because there was an event, an incident that we all saw play out where we saw her face. Very real consequences and very real determinations were made and she was removed from the show. That's fresh, that's new, and it's related to one incident. So there's a lot of really electric opinions attached to that, and I personally believe Kenya Moore should be back on the cast.

00:31:54
Speaker 4: But that's just me.

00:31:55
Speaker 5: I'm sure you have the reasons that she's not, so I got that.

00:32:02
Speaker 3: I'll say this about Nini.

00:32:06
Speaker 1: She is.

00:32:08
Speaker 3: She went down that path that a lot of people who are getting new money and new fame go through, and you have to be careful with keeping that ego in check because all the entire demise of her career is all self imposed. It is not from an outside source. It's all from the call coming from inside the house and I recognize that people are gonna say this is a personal thing. I don't even give a damn wage I'll say about that. I'm speaking as someone who is highly qualified to speak on this, as someone who's been in the game for thirty years. I've been famous before all these housewives except Candy. Okay, so let's be very clear. My resume goes back to nineteen ninety seven ninety eight. So with that being said that we're clear on that this is not hate in any shape or form. But when you get on a show and you have overnight success, it does something to certain people's brains if you're not prepared. One thing about people who have struggles, and this is why a Candy burst, a kid yamore, a lot of other women that have like kind of grinded it out for years. They have had they understand that. They don't just they're not old this. They have earned it. They have climbed up a ladder, been knocked down, had to figure it out and get back up there. It didn't just happen overnight. When something happens for you overnight and you blow up overnight, if you are not grounded and prepared and don't have the right people around you, your ego will tell you, fuck you, I'm that, bitch, I'm rich, I'm that. And you start looking down at people where someone like the rest of us that have like grinded out for years, we understand that the Lord give us and the Lord take it away. And when you come on that, when you go downhill, you better keep your ass and checking your ego because you're going to be wanting another job again. So when you go on your upward trajectory and you shit on people on the way up, and you start looking down your noses at people, the very people that like loved you and loved your like you're down your how humble you are, how down to earth. They don't like this new situation of seeing like upgrade your bags and your teeth and your body and your house and your car. Is hell yet, And I'm gonna celebrate you when you do that. But don't be getting shitty with people. Don't then assault cameramen. Don't refuse to go on cast trips when you don't like the person that's head of that cast trip. Don't think you're bigger than the program, because you will get humbled and you will not be bigger than the program. And when you lose your opportunity and you're like, hey, guys, remember me, I'm the one that built it from the ground up, and you did, and you should get that credit. But people, there's so many people here that want your spot that sometimes a production company will take that l and say, yeah, she would make our ratings go through the roof. But I just don't want to deal with a headache that comes with it. It's too much of a price to pay. Nine leaks. I don't think that it's the end of the road for you because you are so charismatic and you still have I bet you if if I got mob at that convention, girl, you would have been mobbed. Like, okay, you would have, but you have to be You've got to show some kind of humility. And this is not me telling a black woman to make herselves smaller. Which you can't shit on the companies and the people that helped you along the way. You can hold people accountable that did you dirty. But like, it's the attitude and I've witnessed it for myself, so I'm speaking from someone that knows what they're talking about, and that's I think what the problem is we haven't like, maybe there's a one on one interview with someone again. Maybe maybe Carlos says you again where you're like, listen, people have wrong me And she has every right to say that. But I have to still recognize the errors of what I did, how I contributed to it. Hey, maybe I wasn't the easiest person to deal with. Maybe I gave production a hard time, and if I could do it again, I probably wouldn't do that. I bet you something as small as that, well that's not small would make people be like, you know what, Maybe she's changing. We're willing to do it again. But when people have these budgets, they don't want to deal with that shit. No one wants to deal with your ass feeling like you're big in the program and be obnoxious When I got to sit there and shoot with you for twelve hours. I see.

00:36:23
Speaker 5: My thing is to Claudia, right, I just hit me in my head right now when you were talking about that for years and y'all know professionalism is important to me too, Right.

00:36:35
Speaker 4: For years, Nini would would.

00:36:37
Speaker 5: Talk about how she was perspectful, she was professional on other sets when she would go do other work, like when she was. She was great on Fashion Police on E right, and I remember her talking about white people.

00:36:47
Speaker 3: Are gonna act right, but then when you're a black cast, you're gonna act up.

00:36:50
Speaker 4: No sorry, wake it up, Claudia.

00:36:52
Speaker 5: But I remember her saying, how you know I'll come to these sets and I don't even ask for a lot. I just want water in my check on time. You know everybody knows on time. I'm easy to work with or whatever. So that to me means that, Nini, you know the value of being pleasant per se.

00:37:09
Speaker 4: You know the value.

00:37:09
Speaker 5: You know how to do what you need to do, and you need to do it, so when you act out and act otherwise, you know what you're doing then too. And that's the part that makes me struggle with like looking at her as a victim. You know what I'm saying, because you know better, you know what you're doing, Nini. We all know how hard we work for opportunity, for visibility, for all of those things.

00:37:29
Speaker 4: So to see somebody who.

00:37:30
Speaker 5: Has the talent and is now being met with the opportunity fumble it and you're a fan of their personality and what they do is really disappointing.

00:37:39
Speaker 3: So and I do think there was a time she was professional. But then I think when when you're not used to fame and you get it overnight quickly, it does and it's not just a ninny thing like I hope y'all don't think I'm just trying to drag her. I'm just saying, you see, with other people, Jocelyn's another example of that, when you get fame overnight, it sometimes can turn you into a narcissist or turn you into someone that's a little unbearable to be around. I remember Nini had a thing here in Dallas and a play, and we were actually in a decent place, and I had had promoted on my radio station and she was posting by the show, she didn't whatever, that's fine, and then she was gonna host a meet and greet here in Dallas. Well, people paid extra money to be there for that. She got mad with something with the play and we didn't want to come out of her dress room. And then she was leaving after the play and didn't give these people to meet and greet. They begged me to go in there, and I had to explain for her and cover for her. And this is when I was we weren't like this I was like, listen, she wasn't feeling well whatever I said to cover for her. But when you do little things like that, you may think it's just a play, it's just a little black movie, or it's just a little low budget production. But producers talk among themselves, and Nini, you came into the business and blew it up. It would be a tragedy for you to not get back on something on that level again, because you do have so much charisma. You're funny, you know, like all persons should decide you're funny, and you deserve to be on something. But you've got to humble yourself and you've got to get that spirit out of you where you look down on people and people not beneath you because you're famous, they're not.

00:39:11
Speaker 5: And Nini knows how to take a note too. She knows how to listen to all this and take the note because when she met Marlow in season four and Neini.

00:39:18
Speaker 4: Started dressing better. So you can take a note from somebody, you know how to take a note.

00:39:23
Speaker 3: I mean, look how amazing our hair has been ever since season seven Our Housewives. Her hair has been fucking flownless ever since that. George Washington wig reed happened, So I would like to say I contribute to that. Sorry, Carlos, I know we make it a little difficult right now.

00:39:36
Speaker 2: Fine, listen, he's like car cut up you guys.

00:39:43
Speaker 3: I'm sick, so I have an excuse. I'm not myself, my brain is and I'm tired.

00:39:46
Speaker 4: So we're stick and.

00:39:47
Speaker 2: Tired, okay, and I'm about to wake it up. So that's my contribution with that.

00:39:54
Speaker 1: I will say this as somebody who was there the first day, Needi. Okay, there's no instruction manual that one receives when they come from anonymity to a global sensation, right, I'm not here to make excuses for anybody. What I will say is I've seen worse things happen where other women are celebrated. I've seen other women who are still on these shows do something worse than She's ever done that are still working. I've seen other women of different races say worse things publicly and they're still working and back. What I will say is this, I'm not here to say, should it would have put up? What I will say is when it comes to Ninni Leaks, I don't think Leaks has done anything worse than some people have done. I think for me, there's always room for grace if one has the opportunity to confront things head on, to say, let's have a real conversation.

00:41:02
Speaker 4: Right.

00:41:03
Speaker 1: There's people who have said the worst things about me possible, Right, I mean the most horrendous shit about me who I've given opportunities to and the way I operate, I'm never going to clap back at anybody. And that also doesn't mean that I'm going to hold a grudge either. I'm somebody who understands that. Look, I don't know what it's like to be a reality star, and the reason why I create a reality with the King is because I wanted to give reality stars the opportunity to be seen. And again, there's reality stars who do the craziest things, right. However, I always try to find room where grace is needed if they are at a place to offer that, and I really.

00:41:54
Speaker 2: Want to say that you have to be at a place to offer that.

00:41:57
Speaker 1: I think we've all done said things that we wish we could take back.

00:42:02
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, and I think I've done nothing.

00:42:05
Speaker 1: Ever, the perfect patty that is Claudia Jordan. You know that I think we've all done things that we wish we could take back. But but I definitely think, I definitely think. I definitely think it's one of those things where I am just somebody who feels like, if someone is ready to come, let me wish my mic is there. If someone is ready to come to the table with a plate full of grace, I think that's the first step.

00:42:40
Speaker 2: One thing my friend said to me recently. I'm a really good friend of mine who's in the business.

00:42:45
Speaker 1: She said to me, Carlos, you can't expect someone to accept the apology when you want them to.

00:42:58
Speaker 2: And that struck with me. What do you made?

00:43:01
Speaker 1: And she was like, that person who deserves the apology.

00:43:09
Speaker 2: You have to wait on them to receive it. God, that was powerful. We were talking about this life in general. So I will say that.

00:43:18
Speaker 1: One thing I will say is Andy Coleman has said that him and Nini haven't texting, So I think that's a step in the right direction. When it comes to Kenya Moore, I will also go on records saying I love all of my girls that I've worked with on that show, and Claudia obviously, you know we had our wonderful one season together but of all the girls that I work with on the show multiple seasons, I will always go on records.

00:43:46
Speaker 2: Saying Kenya Moore was nothing short of lovely to me. To me, she was she was, she was lovely.

00:43:54
Speaker 1: And I just think when it comes to reality stars, I think, look, there should always be an opportunity where breaks should be given.

00:44:04
Speaker 2: If if if if if the person.

00:44:07
Speaker 1: Is at a place to offer that, because it is pt of you know this too, and that's why I'm so glad you're talking about it. It's a tough gig. It's a tough gig. It really is a tough gig. But I think, you know, I think I think involved should be able to like we should.

00:44:28
Speaker 3: But I feel like, at what point do we stop treating grown as adults as children, because like they should get like, you don't, no one owes you anything in this business, right they? And the fact that any of us entire panel, included in Every Housewife was blessed with an amazing opportunity and then to ship on your opportunity when you could be working at Walmart, where you could be working construction. Not that these are bad jobs, but they're not as glamorous as being a housewife. It's something that I don't know. Maybe I'm very protective over every single gig. This included everything else. Oh my god, you didn't have to give this to me. Thank you. No, you didn't owe me shit.

00:45:16
Speaker 2: Not to cut you off. I will say this.

00:45:17
Speaker 1: I will say this Claudia, and obviously Dustin knows it's him too, but.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: Claudia, obviously being a former housewife.

00:45:26
Speaker 1: I will say at the end of the day, and I was going reck for saying this to the world, Claudia has been the most gracious.

00:45:34
Speaker 2: When it comes to me. On a personal level.

00:45:36
Speaker 1: Claudia has personally sent me text messages, sent me videos of gratefulness.

00:45:43
Speaker 2: I thank you, You've done this for me.

00:45:46
Speaker 1: Claudia has done interviews saying Carlos has done X, Y and Z for me. And I will say, after producing creator and as a person who gives people opportunities, I will say this, that does go a long way so that when I do have openings.

00:46:02
Speaker 8: I.

00:46:03
Speaker 2: Remember those things. I do remember, and I'm like, Claudia, you want to do this.

00:46:08
Speaker 1: So Claudia's defense, you are one of the most most wonderfully gracious women I know.

00:46:18
Speaker 3: And I thank you. Carlos and I thank you for saying that because I appreciate it. I am a girl from the smallest state in America that has a little bit of a lisp that is forgetful of hell and has a cussing problem, right, So thank you. So every time I get something, it is not that you guys owe me something because I'm so beautiful and I'm just so everything. No, I'm like you see me. Thank you. I will never shit on a fan. You will never hear me being at the airport in Atlanta and me putting my hand in people's face up off me and your girls like that, you know what I mean. And that's a that's person inside work. You gotta do like, that's a personality thing. And I don't know if you have to decide to change out when you're sick of being like that. Every single person that comes up to me and dus I know you like this as well. It's like, oh my god, thank you. It's not like a yeah, you know it. It's not that. And you got to adjust your fucking attitude because no one owes you anything. And when you have other reality stars that are out there, listen, before Ninni, there was there was New York. Okay, there's always going to be other people out there that are good and talented that want your spot. So when you are blessed with the opportunity, please don't piss it down the toilet, with arrogance, with rudeness, with even shitting on the very people that put you in position. And yes, I don't know her life, and it's not just attacking anything. It's not just her. There's other people out there that I'm like, damn, you got blessed. It's like the people that win the lottery. I'm like, how you blow that?

00:47:58
Speaker 4: How do you blow that?

00:48:00
Speaker 5: I think authenticity is important, especially when you expressing gratitude. Carlos, just like you said, you appreciate it. The moments for Claudia was sincerely, you know, thankful for different things. You also know when somebody blowing smoke up your ass too, Carlos.

00:48:17
Speaker 4: You know, so you.

00:48:22
Speaker 5: Got to be authentic, You got to be sincere, and people got to believe the words that you say. When you say I'm to people, Carlos believes what you say, and so when you express that gratitude to him, it hit and it mattered.

00:48:34
Speaker 4: You just got to keep it real at all times.

00:48:36
Speaker 5: And part of being able to keep it real you have to you have to have a healthy ego right in order to show gratitude to someone to tell thank you, you have to be able to say, that's not taking anything away from me to thank this person, because that's genuinely how I feel.

00:48:53
Speaker 4: I'm grateful for this opportunity. Let me thank them.

00:48:56
Speaker 5: As long as you have access to your humility and you have that perspective, I think that you can be sustainable. And that's a great way to tell who's not humble, who's not gracious, and who's not offering gratitude because they stop working, they fade out. The people you see who stay consistent and have great relationships, you can see that, you see it.

00:49:18
Speaker 4: It's the proof is in the pudding. You know what I'm saying.

00:49:21
Speaker 3: Don't just be humble when you need another job. Now, humble when you're at your heights. When you're at your height and you're humble. To me, that speaks vines when everyone's humble when you need to get back on. But Carlos, I appreciate that about you because you know I have a sharp tongue. Doesn't just too we that's you know, we ram but we need this kind of balance in life. Right there's people that would just say no, fuck that. I know, you blew it, that's it. And then it's like you got to like, well we should, you know, and that's what makes the world go around. Actually, this is a healthy panel that we have here and healthy discussion to see things from both to hear from both perspectives, you know what I mean. And I like that about you do get people like you. You do breathe life into people, and you do give chances and chances and chances, and you're very kind to people. Uh maybe that's something I need to work on where I'm like, man, I'm like that CARDI B mean when it's when she's like when we got beef forever.

00:50:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like thank you for that.

00:50:19
Speaker 2: It's no, no, listen, I wanted to have that.

00:50:22
Speaker 1: I literally told my my brain dropped over the week, and I said, I brought it up on my Saturday show and then I said, I will get Claudia in Dustin's POV on it because.

00:50:32
Speaker 2: I just I just thought it was a larger conversation. Again, this was this is all me.

00:50:36
Speaker 1: I Meani tweeted nothing said nothing, no, said anything, did say that she wants kneed me back on the show, and that's when we think about her.

00:50:47
Speaker 2: And again it's it's just my heart.

00:50:49
Speaker 1: Was full and I was in a moment that I thought about Kenya and I'm gonna end with this one one to move on.

00:50:55
Speaker 2: I just listen. It's it's.

00:51:03
Speaker 1: It's took to do this job, do you know what I mean? Like this a very tough gig, and I just wish that. And that's why I keep you.

00:51:13
Speaker 3: Wish you're gonna work out with her, right.

00:51:16
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm enforcing. I'm enforcing that I wish all parties because I don't think.

00:51:20
Speaker 1: I don't think the onus is on one person. No, if all parties involved. Me and Claudia joked about how many Claudate got into it was Hollywood.

00:51:29
Speaker 2: The CLI custs me out.

00:51:30
Speaker 1: But I didn't you use words that weren't in the Webster dictionary a little bit. But I knew that at the end of the day that me and my girls will be fine because I'm in love with Claudia, like that's calleis my baby doll.

00:51:50
Speaker 2: So I was like, we'll get past this, like we'll move on.

00:51:53
Speaker 1: So That's why I keep saying, like I just want all parties involved to always find a place of a room for it. But like my friend said, I also am now understanding that when you're ready to apologize to a person, you can't expect the other person to accept it immediately.

00:52:12
Speaker 2: And that's fair. But I'm all about being fair and that's being fair.

00:52:16
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I want to move on to Potomac because.

00:52:23
Speaker 2: Monique Samuel's is back on the show.

00:52:25
Speaker 1: So, Claudia, I know you're just getting back to watching Potomac, but I'm pretty sure you know Monique Samuel is the Binder Queen. Yes, yeah, so she is back on Potomac. Ashley has there with her. Dustin is obviously somebody that has seen every single frame of Potomac since the inception.

00:52:50
Speaker 2: Amongst other shows. So justin what did you think about Monique Samuel's come back.

00:52:57
Speaker 5: I was happy to see her back, and I feel like Monique being on it be back on this show, so I was happy to see her back. You know what I'm saying, I think that Monique is divorced now. I think that she's looking at life a little differently now. She still has her menagerie. Right, she got all them goddamn animals all over the house. But everything else has changed, you know what I'm saying. Her kids are older, she's not married anymore. I think that she can exist on that show a little differently now, and so I'm actually glad to see her back.

00:53:26
Speaker 4: I love a redemption story.

00:53:27
Speaker 5: I was a person who felt like Monique got a bad deal in season five after that physical altercation. I was one of those people who felt that way strongly, and so seeing her come back and have conversations to kind of build a bridge with these ladies, I love it. I was very happy to see Monique back. Not them fucking animals, but Monique. Yes, I was happy to see.

00:53:52
Speaker 3: I saw Candice at a drag show that was for Real Housewives of Politics, and she was there. She looked absolutely beautiful. I know that's you know that those who had that fight, but I do too. She's always been reading for me. I like se Monique. I feel she's gonna wake it up and I know we're gonna get into it. But Kay was messy as hell.

00:54:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do your job live.

00:54:22
Speaker 3: She didn't even let her breathe, like she just got here and they were like, Oh, I thought you knew each other. You don't know Stacey ready, Oh wait that was the other Samuel.

00:54:29
Speaker 4: I was like, student of the game.

00:54:33
Speaker 5: She pulled a Gazelle on Gazelle right there in the moment she did with Giselle, but she did it first, and I was so happy for Kiana. Y'all know, I want her to be successful on this show. I think she has what it takes.

00:54:44
Speaker 2: I think has a crush on I think.

00:54:47
Speaker 5: She's a beautiful woman, but I think she has what it takes to be on this show. You know what I'm saying, Like, like, she has it and so I just want her to harness it appropriately.

00:54:56
Speaker 4: And seeing her think quick on her feet in that moment made me hope.

00:55:00
Speaker 3: She gagged, was like, we don't know what's going on here.

00:55:08
Speaker 2: Stacy gives you QBC no matter what situation.

00:55:11
Speaker 4: She said, that's her superpower.

00:55:13
Speaker 2: That's the beauty.

00:55:14
Speaker 1: Like the fact that the message happening and she and she just went straight into like, I don't know what's going on here. This seems weird. I don't know what they're trying to do. I thought it was great. Kkate shook it up and look, let's get some activation going on. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens, what it brings, the idea of what we can find out about how Monique feels about Stacy.

00:55:38
Speaker 2: Whatever Stacey's going to say.

00:55:39
Speaker 1: Because remember we only know that Stacy and Chris went on a date courtesy of the producer cam.

00:55:45
Speaker 2: So Stacey hasn't admitted on camera, in front of these girls.

00:55:50
Speaker 1: On camera that she went out a date with him. But we will see if that does come out. So I'm looking forward to seeing what happens that. And speaking of another house I mean speaking of who I think should be a housewife and and could be a formidable player. Jazz got married. She had a wedding in Claudia, City of Dallas. Yes, and I want to see Jazzz as a as a housewife. I think maybe the wealth we talked about the wealth money, the wealth of Rhode Island.

00:56:25
Speaker 2: Jazz and her man got money. I when I when I interviewed Jazz.

00:56:29
Speaker 1: Last year on my podcast and her now husband joined the conversation and they're like this very young, attractive couple. And I think people don't understand. Remember at Atlanta when we had ed Hartwell, a a a who was a an athlete currently you know, on on a team. I want to see that when it comes to you know, Potomac. He is an athlete that is currently playing. He's on the field. She is a wag, and I think the wag world would be interesting to see. So I'm team Jazzy, I'm team Keyanna. I want them to continue filming and listen.

00:57:14
Speaker 2: I want some. I want some like spark and and and Potomac.

00:57:20
Speaker 1: Look, Whindy's situation, her legal situation obviously happened after the season. Well, well that is something that would have been great to watch on fold, like we did Erica Jane, we did Teresa Judies with their legal situation. But nonetheless, I'm here for KK and I'm here for Jazzy.

00:57:38
Speaker 3: I liked Ashley's drag name she gave to everyone, and she gagged Giselle. She gave her the name serving just. I was like, yo, oh my god.

00:57:48
Speaker 4: That was actually.

00:57:51
Speaker 5: Call each other them names and ship. It's probably ain't even about that. Probably is about seeing everybody you ain't seen in a while, saying what's up to everybody whatever, keeping it moving. We don't stand around at the college. Well, since his pride, you're gonna be so sucks a lot.

00:58:05
Speaker 4: We all do that. So I understand they was having fun and ship.

00:58:08
Speaker 5: You know, I understand that. I appreciate it because it came from a good place. Please don't misunderstand what they were supported.

00:58:17
Speaker 3: But I was just like, actually, but everybody liked there is except the only person that like it was just out so you got the conor Jizzy. The only person I didn't like. Their name was Shady, but I thought they were kind of tongue in cheek funny.

00:58:30
Speaker 4: They were. It was fun and I think they look cute.

00:58:33
Speaker 5: I also, have y'all seen their looks for the after show for Potomac, Yet the ladies looked gorgeous on that after show.

00:58:40
Speaker 4: I'm talking about good, good, good.

00:58:43
Speaker 5: Wendy and Keana got the funk down on them after show looks. They actually, actually actually has been looking good all this season, that new confessional look with the bangs and the tie and ship and the actually, whoever's been Star Island her, you've been doing a good job.

00:59:05
Speaker 3: Hergeous angel woke it up this episode too, She she she again a little red to to Wendy a.

00:59:14
Speaker 4: Little bit okay about that?

00:59:16
Speaker 5: So this is so the Angel, her sister Ingrid proved all of our points right, Angels not being herself and her scenes with the cast we saw eating an ice cream with that sister, big sister named Ingrid. You anytime your big sister name is Ingrid, that's a mean name, you term your big sister is stepping like that. You know you gotta have that fire in you anyway. And the way Angel was was was letting it fly in that conversation with her sister Ingrid. That's the comfort level that we need to see Angel have her cast scenes. And I'm sorry but saying slipping comment under your breath when Gazelle walked into the bar and Pride telling well hate my fellow egg all low like that that they had to caption it on the damn screen for us to know what you were saying.

01:00:10
Speaker 4: That's not how, that's not it's not She.

01:00:13
Speaker 3: Needs to say it with her chest like she says that when she's with her friends in the group chat and her sister.

01:00:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, like, because she was interesting sitting down at the ice cream parlor with her sister.

01:00:21
Speaker 4: Didn't y'all feel like that?

01:00:22
Speaker 3: That's what's frustrating about her. I think we all agreed she shows us that she has it in her and we'll show it when she's one on one over here. But then won't I think we talked about this. She's a fan of the show. I think she's a little bit intimidated to stay to their face, but behind the back she has a smoke. You know, I think she still say it.

01:00:39
Speaker 5: I wish she would be like, I've been watching this show for so long, so it took me a minute to get in the groove. But like saying, so that we can neutralize all that, I personally felt like based on some of her Her and Keana did a lot of press together during Bravo Come, So when they were walking the carpet and being interviewed by the outlets and stuff, they were together and Angels and Kiana's disposition to a certain like Bravo Khan is fun right those interviews, the time that you're allowed with the.

01:01:07
Speaker 4: Different media outlets.

01:01:08
Speaker 5: In short, you can't really do a deep dive of anything serious. You need to have fun, put a little zinger in it, show your personality, and be a beat.

01:01:17
Speaker 4: Keiana and Angel walk down that press line.

01:01:19
Speaker 5: Like so, first of all, she is a classic textbook, you know, I thanks agected to that. I mean, she's wrong with it, like so, it was just too serious, you know, And I think that I don't know if they're going to get it in that capacity.

01:01:31
Speaker 4: I think Kiana is starting to get it right because this is her second Yeah, Angels still all to learn. I don't think that's a healthy pairing for that reason.

01:01:41
Speaker 1: And to piggy back off, to pig it back off of what you're saying what we did see doing the Bravo khan Ric Harpet. The reporter did ask Angel about Gazelle and Claudia Dustin.

01:01:54
Speaker 2: She called Gisell a geriatric Regina George, saying they're mean girls.

01:02:00
Speaker 4: Which.

01:02:04
Speaker 2: Okay, well he did the soul the fact.

01:02:05
Speaker 3: So look, Angel, no, Angel, no, Angel.

01:02:09
Speaker 1: No, it's it's I we want you to win.

01:02:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's well we listen, we called it from the beginning.

01:02:18
Speaker 1: I said to y'all, my opinion is I think Angel gave great casting tape to get the flute, like someone I worked with at Atlanta.

01:02:29
Speaker 2: And Claudia shut up. I'm know what you're talking about. So so.

01:02:49
Speaker 4: Yo needed today. But here we just do this.

01:03:02
Speaker 3: You know what I tell you. Everything I said back about Nannie, she was right, and Niani, I see you now, I see they to be like this exactly exactly, exactly exactly.

01:03:15
Speaker 4: Over here.

01:03:17
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

01:03:19
Speaker 2: No, I think she gave great Cassio tape.

01:03:21
Speaker 1: But I think the moment the rit light was on that camera and they and I think the producers were.

01:03:26
Speaker 2: Like, uh, who is this? That's that's what I saw.

01:03:33
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it when a person reads in a confessional. There's a lot of confessional gangsters on these shows that once Carlos came on. Anyways, I thought that because I'm not I'm not going there.

01:03:46
Speaker 2: I thought at the end of the day, Angel proved what we.

01:03:49
Speaker 1: All suspected is she is somebody that deserves to be on the show.

01:03:55
Speaker 2: But the moment she's all of those girls, honey, mama, is I know what I know? Dustin, I'm not I'm not being shady. I have experienced this.

01:04:08
Speaker 9: What happens is this, and I'm not exaggerating. You're watching television when a when a and this is not just for housewives. When a reality star is entering a.

01:04:20
Speaker 1: Known institution, a known show, They've watched it, and just like how let's have a real conversation. We've all been in situation watching television where there's scripted like.

01:04:32
Speaker 3: You don't see me texting you niggas right now.

01:04:37
Speaker 2: Y'all don't see me.

01:04:38
Speaker 10: Y'all again, you don't see that, you don't see my text the alerts going off.

01:04:49
Speaker 8: Breen dropped, Ye, one of the names have been on the show, but I love seeing in the current iteration of their lives.

01:05:03
Speaker 3: Are any of those right?

01:05:04
Speaker 4: An? You said? The first name?

01:05:06
Speaker 5: You said, I love seeing the current iteration of their life. But they should have never been on that show. But I think I like her fascinating the first name, she.

01:05:14
Speaker 2: Said, I would say, all number two some degree, but number number two for sure.

01:05:24
Speaker 3: For sure?

01:05:25
Speaker 2: Be sure this is up playing the plane shut down, it's over.

01:05:37
Speaker 3: Yes, you're gonna say, now, you guys.

01:05:40
Speaker 2: I'm landing the plane, all right, So here we go.

01:05:45
Speaker 3: Yo, you too, better have locks on your phone. We better never lose our phones. Okay, if we lose if any one of us lose our phones, it's goning big up. Put the screenshots up about Bravo con next year.

01:05:56
Speaker 4: I've been deleted all that ship anyway. I don't keep like.

01:05:59
Speaker 1: That, okay, So what I will say is I think we've all even the rain drops.

01:06:07
Speaker 2: There's people who want to be a part of Monday Night Live. That thing.

01:06:11
Speaker 1: Oh, I can do Dustin and Claudia and Carlo's job, and we make it look easy, right.

01:06:17
Speaker 2: And I think when some people join the show.

01:06:19
Speaker 1: They if I was at that dinner table, I would have said this. I would have done that, And I want to get the gig.

01:06:27
Speaker 8: You know.

01:06:29
Speaker 1: This, So look, I think the jury saw the Angel the trailer. The mid season trailer was released for Potomac and Angel seems to have some things going on for the rest of the season. Claudia and Dustin. It appears that there's something going on one of her homes and something going on. It's guys watched the trailer. It's Angel may have a great story that we'll see towards end the season.

01:06:59
Speaker 2: That make on.

01:07:05
Speaker 5: Because according to the midseason trailer, remember Giselle and them were trying to say that Angel and her husband got evicted. That already pissed me off. We know, damn well, they didn't get evicted. We know that they can afford to live in a home if they need to. So that being the story was did they get put out?

01:07:20
Speaker 4: That house.

01:07:21
Speaker 5: That's about to piss me off, okay, because we know it's not true, and I don't feel like wasting four or five fucking episodes arguing about a bunch of bullshit that don't even make no sense, you know what I'm saying. Of Course, they didn't get fucking evicted if the air, Even if they did it was related to something, you know what I'm saying.

01:07:39
Speaker 4: They weren't.

01:07:39
Speaker 5: They weren't destitute, and so I just don't even want to explore that path I heard they got to put out on it, Like that's just a waste of our time. We couldn't getting to know her and Ingrid because Ingrid don't give a fuck. She need to film with her sister, Ingrid more Angels and we could be watching that instead of watching these watching the cast, you know, manipulate this situation to be something stupid. I just that for me personally, just me speaking for myself. When I saw that, I was like, Damn, that's what we're gonna do with Angel? And you feel did she did she or didn't she get put out?

01:08:13
Speaker 4: That's what the damn story is.

01:08:14
Speaker 3: And she's clearly on broke. I like seeing her by real quick because unrelated. I really liked the scene with Tia and her family with the kids and the husband. I thought that was too.

01:08:30
Speaker 5: Daughters they look like they look just like their father, but when they smile, they had that smile like the their father from here to hear and Tia from here to heart.

01:08:42
Speaker 3: They seem like they have a great relationship like their family dynamic is super cute. I love how her husbands are there they are. We need to see more functional, not dysfunctional, functional relationships like I really liked seeing them. That was nice to say.

01:08:57
Speaker 5: I agree club, I'm here for Tia.

01:09:00
Speaker 1: I love Tia and No so Potomac. Great episode. We'll see what happens next week. Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

01:09:18
Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

01:09:21
Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore