Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Dev Team Potentially Reuniting

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the morning Mess with Prince of Persia. The
<v Speaker 1>Lost Crown development team reportedly reunites set to pitch new
<v Speaker 1>ideas to Ubisoft. This is from Alex Hopley at Game Reactor.
<v Speaker 1>We're getting the back together. Well maybe we are, as
<v Speaker 1>it's believed that the development team behind Prince of Persia
<v Speaker 1>the Lost Crown, which was previously disbanded to go work
<v Speaker 1>on other titles at Ubisoft like Assassin's Creed, is being
<v Speaker 1>allowed to reform at the company. In a now deleted
<v Speaker 1>post on Blue Sky, French journalist Gauthier Gauteau's andres claimed
<v Speaker 1>that Ubisoft has brought the development team back together and
<v Speaker 1>is letting them pitch new ideas once more. Considering the
<v Speaker 1>post is now deleted on Blue Sky, it may be
<v Speaker 1>the case that something is amiss with Gautos's reporting, so
<v Speaker 1>keep your salt shakers handy for this one. However, this
<v Speaker 1>might be a glimmer of hope in Prince of Prince
<v Speaker 1>of Persia's future. After the cancelation of the Sands of
<v Speaker 1>Time remake, it did seem like the franchise was all
<v Speaker 1>but dead and buried. However, if the Lost Crown developers
<v Speaker 1>are keen on making some sort of sequel to the
<v Speaker 1>game which brought in millions of players, it's possible it
<v Speaker 1>will have.
<v Speaker 3>A strong audience already.
<v Speaker 1>That is one of the things that did happen here
<v Speaker 1>jan is since they seemingly disbanded this team, or did
<v Speaker 1>disband this team, it does seem like Prince Persia of
<v Speaker 1>the Lost Crown specifically has continued to pile on more
<v Speaker 1>players as word of mouth like slowly spread and then
<v Speaker 1>the price.
<v Speaker 3>Came way down. It's been available for as low as
<v Speaker 3>ten dollars.
<v Speaker 1>People can get it now for like twenty to thirty,
<v Speaker 1>and that includes physically at a lot of places. At
<v Speaker 1>that price, it's like the easiest recommendation in the world.
<v Speaker 1>And then it does seem like people are taking that
<v Speaker 1>up and picking up this game so maybe the mathematics
<v Speaker 1>have changed behind it since they disbanded the team, and they're.
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know what, we were wrong.
<v Speaker 1>We see now how this can build up slowly, and
<v Speaker 1>maybe we can take that momentum and do something with
<v Speaker 1>a sequel.
<v Speaker 3>What do you think.
<v Speaker 2>I am a little bit hesitant about this news, Grub.
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy that the team may possibly be getting back,
<v Speaker 2>may either because they formed it or they developed a
<v Speaker 2>fantastic game. It was our game of the year two
<v Speaker 2>years ago. At this point, it has.
<v Speaker 1>To be twenty twenty four, right, I wrote here, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if that's exactly exactly right.
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure it was, I think so. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was deservedly won our Game of the Year because
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it captured all of our attention, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, this whole website is so dang metroid vanyappilled
<v Speaker 2>that of course that game, and it also helped that
<v Speaker 2>it was a fantastic game.
<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>The part that makes me hesitant, Grub, is that this
<v Speaker 2>is still falling underneath the UBI Soft umbrella, and if
<v Speaker 2>Ubisoft made that decision to spread out that team, potentially
<v Speaker 2>cut some of those developers out. Of the company and
<v Speaker 2>let them go. I'm not super confident that Ubisoft is
<v Speaker 2>going to follow through and even listen or entertain some
<v Speaker 2>of these ideas, especially with how we've seen uv Soft
<v Speaker 2>handle various other projects, specifically Prince of Persia projects.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's you know, maybe things did change and
<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, yeah, we are. We would be more
<v Speaker 1>happy with a game where we can make it at
<v Speaker 1>a certain budget tarry level, and then we put it
<v Speaker 1>out and over the next couple of years it gets
<v Speaker 1>to one to two million copies sold, and maybe in
<v Speaker 1>this moment they're like, thumbs up, that sounds awesome, But
<v Speaker 1>we know how fickle these companies are, and it feels
<v Speaker 1>like three months from now that will be the kind
<v Speaker 1>of thing where you bring that back into the boardroom
<v Speaker 1>and it becomes poison to the people sitting there as
<v Speaker 1>they're like, no, it has to be the biggest swings ever.
<v Speaker 3>We're back on that bandwagon.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's an insane line of thinking to not realize, oh,
<v Speaker 2>if we give something the proper amount of runway and
<v Speaker 2>then kind of course correct in terms of price, then
<v Speaker 2>we can eventually make up for that. And also just
<v Speaker 2>having Prince of Persia of the Lost Crown has to
<v Speaker 2>be a smaller budget title compared to the other things
<v Speaker 2>that Ubisoft has been trying to do right.
<v Speaker 1>Right, all, Yes, all those ones that ran into like
<v Speaker 1>the like brick walls for whatever reason, whether that's coming
<v Speaker 1>out to zero acclaim and zero or whether it's like
<v Speaker 1>a failing in development, It's like, yeah, all those projects
<v Speaker 1>probably were bigger, more complicated, And then do they.
<v Speaker 3>Really have that much of a higher ceiling?
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they do two D games like A Prince of
<v Speaker 1>Persia of the Lost Crown always seem like they're fighting
<v Speaker 1>in an uphill battle these days, but this one, you know,
<v Speaker 1>over time just seems like it won that battle. And
<v Speaker 1>it's probably a story they can tell right now internally
<v Speaker 1>at Ubisoft to say, look, we have the ones that
<v Speaker 1>we know we're gonna make. We have our Assassin's Creeds,
<v Speaker 1>our far Cries, a handful of other things we know
<v Speaker 1>we're going to keep making those. We do have this
<v Speaker 1>massive development team of ten of ten thousand plus people
<v Speaker 1>across the world. We should be like diversifying somewhat what
<v Speaker 1>else can work. And it's like, okay, so this doesn't
<v Speaker 1>have the highest ceiling, but I think you can prove
<v Speaker 1>it does work, and so can you just make the math,
<v Speaker 1>like set out with a mathematical equation that works from
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. If we spend this much time with this
<v Speaker 1>many people and it does x amount sales, we will
<v Speaker 1>no matter what, be happy. The rest of what's happened
<v Speaker 1>at Ubisoft be damned. And it's like, yeah, that was
<v Speaker 1>like cool, That's maybe the way this whole thing should work.
<v Speaker 1>And it feels like a lot of the time it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't right.
<v Speaker 2>It it it doesn't make sense to be gra because
<v Speaker 2>it it feels like at this point, at this juncture
<v Speaker 2>with how video game development and funding for it is,
<v Speaker 2>it is the same. It feels like the same cost
<v Speaker 2>analysis of them dumping millions and millions of man hours
<v Speaker 2>and dollars into a game, a live service game that
<v Speaker 2>is ultimately going to get canceled or get the rug
<v Speaker 2>pulled from underneath it a month maybe two months after launch,
<v Speaker 2>versus a single player game or something smaller in scope
<v Speaker 2>that will eventually make up for it and like you said,
<v Speaker 2>eventually sell one two million copies. I think part of
<v Speaker 2>the problem also with Ubisoft is correct me if I'm wrong,
<v Speaker 2>but I don't believe the Lost Crown launched on Steam, right,
<v Speaker 2>it was on that?
<v Speaker 3>I think that might be right. Yeah, that sounds right, Jane.
<v Speaker 2>I think it was through whatever Ubisoft launcher they had.
<v Speaker 2>So again, they're like shooting themselves in the foot here
<v Speaker 2>by not putting it out on the biggest storefront on PCs.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we've seen that happen a bunch of times
<v Speaker 1>now where a game gets hurt by not doing that,
<v Speaker 1>And why.
<v Speaker 3>Would this be any different.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, this might be the exact kind of game
<v Speaker 1>that would receive the most amount of damage from not
<v Speaker 1>being on Steam at launch.
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like with you know, other two D
<v Speaker 2>games like God of War, Sons of Sparta not necessarily
<v Speaker 2>sticking and landing with a lot of folks, that is
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to make a renewed push of like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>this didn't land for a lot of people, but this
<v Speaker 2>game for sure did. And if you missed it, it's.
<v Speaker 1>On sale and it's uh, you know, there's always the
<v Speaker 1>possibility that you know, it says gonna start pitching youb
<v Speaker 1>be so off new ideas. Maybe it won't be a
<v Speaker 1>Prince of Persia, But I just think you should let
<v Speaker 1>this team stick to what they're strongest at, and you
<v Speaker 1>can make more games in this style.
<v Speaker 3>I mean a I think someone a chat must have
<v Speaker 3>said this because I saw.
<v Speaker 1>Two D splinter Cell and I didn't like read the
<v Speaker 1>rest because it was going by fast and we were
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation Jan, But I think they must have
<v Speaker 1>been getting that a two D splinter cell metro aid
<v Speaker 1>Vana in the style of Shadow Complex or something like that,
<v Speaker 1>that would be great as well. I mean, you could
<v Speaker 1>really do a lot of fun stuff there with a
<v Speaker 1>path traced ray trace lighting in a two D environment
<v Speaker 1>and and have that be like a physical element that
<v Speaker 1>you could play around with. And in a two D game,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, you can really control that in a
<v Speaker 1>way where performance wouldn't be such a big headache, and
<v Speaker 1>you get that that character come to come back, and
<v Speaker 1>then it's another new Metroidvania game which will just feel awesome.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they could do something like that and I
<v Speaker 1>would welcome it.
<v Speaker 2>Mark of the Ninja is a good blueprint to base
<v Speaker 2>at Stealthy. I saw someone mention it in chat there,
<v Speaker 2>but you could apply that not only disciplinter sell, but
<v Speaker 2>they won't stop making assassins. Creed Games, Grub Yeah, a
<v Speaker 2>two D assassin's Creed game that kind of relies more
<v Speaker 2>on the stealth aspect I think would do well.
<v Speaker 3>I think that'd be cool. Yes, absolutely that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean an assassin's greed game that is just Mark
<v Speaker 1>of the Ninja would be exactly what the doctor ordered
<v Speaker 1>for something for a two D game like that.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, all right.
<v Speaker 1>There's always the possibility that this is a diversion news
<v Speaker 1>that's got that got put out there to distract from
<v Speaker 1>other Ubi Soft news, like Ubisoft settles with developers who
<v Speaker 1>are laid off laid off after unionizing. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Ethan Gotch at Kotaku. Ubi Soft Halifax would have been
<v Speaker 1>the French publisher's first unionized studio in North America if
<v Speaker 1>it hadn't been immediately shut down after developers they're organized.
<v Speaker 1>Months later, Halifax workers have finally secured a settlement as
<v Speaker 1>Ubisoft moves forward with the cost cutting measures across the
<v Speaker 1>rest of the company. Sixty one union members voted overwhelmingly
<v Speaker 1>for the deal. CW Canada announced earlier this week the
<v Speaker 1>terms of the settlement will remain confidential, but impacted developers
<v Speaker 1>said that despite a tough negotiation, Ubisoft respected the union
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote and acted in good faith, which I'm sure
<v Speaker 1>were the contracted terms that they have to say that
<v Speaker 1>it came as a surprise to all of us and
<v Speaker 1>to the frontline managers as we were in the middle
<v Speaker 1>of many ongoing and new projects and doing great work.
<v Speaker 1>Former Ubisoft Halifax employee John Huffman said in a statement,
<v Speaker 1>we are extremely grateful to our union for negotiating this
<v Speaker 1>package for us. You be soft, you know, kind of
<v Speaker 1>putting a period on this. But boy, is what I
<v Speaker 1>would say to this jan is, every time we think
<v Speaker 1>a company in the video game industry might be union busting,
<v Speaker 1>I bet we're right, and we were right in this case.
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is a settlement. I bet part of
<v Speaker 1>the settlement is no agreement of wrongdoings. So I'll still say,
<v Speaker 1>allege you to cover ourselves legally, but you settled. You
<v Speaker 1>pay them a bunch of money so that you can
<v Speaker 1>make this go away, because you would probably have to
<v Speaker 1>owe more money if you actually went to court, it
<v Speaker 1>would cost you more. So yeah, union busting at you
<v Speaker 1>be soft?
<v Speaker 3>Very likely? Right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially after like hearing the story grub and going
<v Speaker 2>through these points here. If it does feel fishy, folks,
<v Speaker 2>at home. It probably is a little bit, primarily because
<v Speaker 2>the employees let go in whatever settlement probably have to
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily a non disparaging agreement, but make play nice,
<v Speaker 2>I guess, to at least get some type of kickback
<v Speaker 2>rather than just straight up getting let go. It's I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do, grub because like, of course
<v Speaker 2>I want these developers to unionize. I think wrestlers should
<v Speaker 2>also unionize while we're at it. But the powers that
<v Speaker 2>be up top are just going to keep swinging their
<v Speaker 2>hammer and trying to squash any of these organizations under
<v Speaker 2>you know, the guys of budget cuts or whatever else.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, you know, we see these companies constantly looking for
<v Speaker 1>ways to make their bottom line look better, and that
<v Speaker 1>has led them back to cost cutting over and over
<v Speaker 1>and over again. So the urge to do this isn't
<v Speaker 1>going to go away. But Ubisoft does need to like
<v Speaker 1>figure their shit out so they can either sell the
<v Speaker 1>company to someone who knows what to do with it,
<v Speaker 1>or they start putting out games that people are buying.
<v Speaker 1>The last we heard from them as we can, as
<v Speaker 1>they led into this series of layoffs like one month
<v Speaker 1>after another, where all these studios were seeing cuts. Right
<v Speaker 1>before that, it was like, oh, a bunch of games
<v Speaker 1>are coming very soon, and then no, actually we're delaying
<v Speaker 1>all of our games except for like six that we're
<v Speaker 1>just canceling out right.
<v Speaker 3>We're sort of on the other side of that a
<v Speaker 3>little bit. Now.
<v Speaker 1>It seems like where maybe this Assassin's Creed for Black
<v Speaker 1>Flag remake or remaster, whatever it's going to be, is
<v Speaker 1>going to come soon. And now there's the word that
<v Speaker 1>they're getting the Prince of Persia Lost Crown team back together.
<v Speaker 3>Do you think there's a.
<v Speaker 1>Chance that they are on a path forward or is
<v Speaker 1>it just like the dust has settled from their lowest
<v Speaker 1>moment and we're just waiting for the next lowest moment.
<v Speaker 1>Because I really don't know where to put my finger
<v Speaker 1>on the pulse with the Ubi Soft at all.
<v Speaker 2>Right now, you'd be stuffed to such an outlier with
<v Speaker 2>all of this grub that I don't know which way
<v Speaker 2>they're going to move forward. You know, nothing is particularly
<v Speaker 2>changed with management at the tippy top, so I don't
<v Speaker 2>have much confidence that they are going to stick to
<v Speaker 2>their guns because it feels like they've just dropped them
<v Speaker 2>all on the floor and don't know which one to
<v Speaker 2>pick up the dust.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, very much feels that way.
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, my guess is they are just grasping
<v Speaker 1>at something and that's what stuff like this Prince of
<v Speaker 1>Persia thing is, and we are going to hear a
<v Speaker 1>very different tone in six months as they continue to
<v Speaker 1>just to scramble. So when you said you were hesitant
<v Speaker 1>out of the gate with that previous story, that's where
<v Speaker 1>I settle as well on this where there's just no
<v Speaker 1>reason to have faith that this company is going to
<v Speaker 1>figure things out in this moment.
<v Speaker 2>And who's to say, grub that they are just trying
<v Speaker 2>to build whatever positive sentiment that they can that they're
<v Speaker 2>going to wind up trying to sell the company and
<v Speaker 2>thin out the company within those the next six months.
<v Speaker 3>Yep, all right, we should move on.
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to this next story, which is a continuation
<v Speaker 1>from something we talked about on the show yesterday. Starfield
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo switch to rating has now appeared as well.
<v Speaker 3>This is from Nintendo Everything.
<v Speaker 1>The strongest evidence yet of Starfield coming to Nintendo switch
<v Speaker 1>to has come to light following a new rating discovery
<v Speaker 1>over in Taiwan. A new entry has was just added
<v Speaker 1>for the game on Nintendo's console, the classification, does it
<v Speaker 1>include any notable information outside of that, And it's unclear
<v Speaker 1>when the port would release. Previous rumors did say the
<v Speaker 1>Starfield would be coming to switch To, and then it
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, is it actually going to happen? And
<v Speaker 1>now this is here alongside jan I talked about it
<v Speaker 1>on the show yesterday. Several other Nintendo Switch to ports
<v Speaker 1>that have shown up at ratings agencies around the world.
<v Speaker 1>That is on top of two first party Nintendo Switch
<v Speaker 1>games that got rated by the ESRB or re rated
<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of weeks, and that was Splittoon
<v Speaker 1>Raiders and I can't remember the other one upcoming gain
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm trying to place it. I'll look it
<v Speaker 1>up here in a second. But point being a lot
<v Speaker 1>of stuff lying in wait for the switch to, whether
<v Speaker 1>it is many of these third party ports from other
<v Speaker 1>consoles and the PC. It's first party games that we
<v Speaker 1>know are coming, and then the first party games that
<v Speaker 1>have been rumored to be announced.
<v Speaker 3>Star Fox's ockering of time.
<v Speaker 1>So more evidence of like, at the very least, they
<v Speaker 1>do have a roster of games that they could use
<v Speaker 1>to make a Nintendo Direct one is likely coming soon.
<v Speaker 2>I believe Fire Emblem was the other game, Greb, that's it,
<v Speaker 2>Thank you fantastic. I am not the target audience specifically
<v Speaker 2>for Starfield, let alone Starfield on the switch To switch To. Sure,
<v Speaker 2>and we've report did this week about the performance and
<v Speaker 2>how many people have been upset with the performance of
<v Speaker 2>star the Starfield Port on the PS five, so much
<v Speaker 2>so that Sony's actually offering refunds for the.
<v Speaker 3>Game, something they don't normally do.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't imagine that Starfield on the Switch To
<v Speaker 2>is going to be the way that anyone should play
<v Speaker 2>this game if you are at all curious. And I
<v Speaker 2>can't imagine that any of the news coming out of
<v Speaker 2>the Starfield Port from the PS five will instill any
<v Speaker 2>confidence and anyone that is still curious about checking it
<v Speaker 2>out and was perhaps possibly waiting for you switch to port.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's certainly the biggest thing about
<v Speaker 1>this story, specifically, all these other games coming to switch
<v Speaker 1>to getting announced, the one was the thing with Starfield
<v Speaker 1>is Yeah, this feels like still it would be an
<v Speaker 1>impossible port to even come to the switch to just
<v Speaker 1>based on how the game runs on these other consoles.
<v Speaker 3>Now, as always.
<v Speaker 1>The switch To does have better built in baked in
<v Speaker 1>ray tracing hardware, and there might be some ray trace delighting.
<v Speaker 3>And Starfield that would help with.
<v Speaker 1>But my understanding was always that the CPU side of
<v Speaker 1>things is what was really causing problems with Starfield. It's
<v Speaker 1>simulating so many things, it's causing problems across the board,
<v Speaker 1>including on PC and you know, switch to while a
<v Speaker 1>relatively modern CPU, it's not like super modern. So isn't
<v Speaker 1>that going to struggle? And you know, my guess here
<v Speaker 1>would be the safe thing to assume is yes, this
<v Speaker 1>is going to have problems like all these other Pathesta
<v Speaker 1>games have had over the last several years.
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<v Speaker 2>and I that's the show.
<v Speaker 3>Through.
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know what is what is Betheesa doing. Grub,
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to make a new fallout. They or
<v Speaker 2>maybe they do want to make a new fallout, but
<v Speaker 2>they're not exactly older scrolls. Whatever number we're up to
<v Speaker 2>is never going to come out. And then Todd is
<v Speaker 2>lost in space. Part of me feels like they like
<v Speaker 2>jammed away at this port to like, oh, there's renewed
<v Speaker 2>interest in space because of the Artemis Tube team. Let's
<v Speaker 2>get let's launch our game or relaunch our game, and
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, unfortunately had very poor performance on the
<v Speaker 2>PS five.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I I keep waiting to see if Starfield is going
<v Speaker 1>to have one of those its back moments like a
<v Speaker 1>Noma Sky's had so many times and every opportunity with
<v Speaker 1>like that first round of DLC. It's saying, no, people
<v Speaker 1>seem to hate this more than base Starfield and with
<v Speaker 1>this these ports, it's saying, no, people are having a
<v Speaker 1>terrible experience with this.
<v Speaker 3>And that is the takeaway here.
<v Speaker 1>If there's positive positivity underneath the surface there, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>hearing about it because it's getting buried by the reaction
<v Speaker 1>to the performance.
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's do this story.
<v Speaker 1>Forty four percent of games industry professionals have considered leaving
<v Speaker 1>the industry as a result of redundancies. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Sophie McAvoy at gi dot biz. A survey from games
<v Speaker 1>recruitment firm skill Search has found that overall, forty four
<v Speaker 1>percent of respondents have considered leaving the industry due to redundancies.
<v Speaker 1>In the UK, seventy six percent said that they will
<v Speaker 1>be or are considering job hunting outside of the industry.
<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty six, the annual Salary and Status Satisfaction
<v Speaker 1>Survey collected responses from one thousand respondents across the UK, Europe,
<v Speaker 1>North America, APAC and MINA regions between November twelfth, twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, and February twenty twenty fourth. Twenty two percent
<v Speaker 1>of respondents had been made redundant in the past year,
<v Speaker 1>and twelve percent said they had been made redundant more
<v Speaker 1>than twelve months ago. The leading causes of redundancies were
<v Speaker 1>reduced investment in investor funding, budget CUNTS cuts and a.
<v Speaker 3>Lack of projects.
<v Speaker 1>So just overall less money in the space, which I
<v Speaker 1>think we've.
<v Speaker 3>Kind of been feeling over and over and over again.
<v Speaker 1>That has led, as the headline says, here jan people
<v Speaker 1>to be like, hey, why do I keep trying to
<v Speaker 1>get a game in this industry? I have skills that
<v Speaker 1>could work elsewhere. I could go work in finance or
<v Speaker 1>big banking, and you know that's Hey, we have so
<v Speaker 1>many games coming out, it's not a problem. It's not
<v Speaker 1>a problem right now. In a couple of years is
<v Speaker 1>when this begins to rear its ugly head where there
<v Speaker 1>are no like senior leaders left in the space and
<v Speaker 1>games that were already mismanaged are going to be even
<v Speaker 1>more mismanaged going forward.
<v Speaker 2>Right one hundred percent grub It's depressing to read this news.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I could already tell because we have acquaintances
<v Speaker 2>out there that have had to leave the industry outright
<v Speaker 2>just because it's impossible to get another job, or it
<v Speaker 2>is like such a uphill battle, if not straight up
<v Speaker 2>vertical climb to even like get your own studio going,
<v Speaker 2>or to stick around at a triple A place. And
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this also applies not just to the
<v Speaker 2>development side, the publishing side, but also to the pr
<v Speaker 2>side in the media side that we occupy where we
<v Speaker 2>are quickly losing ground to stand on, and we are
<v Speaker 2>just nervously looking around of like y'all, okay, you're okay, okay, cool,
<v Speaker 2>let's keep weathering it out together. And it's just such
<v Speaker 2>a bummer because there is so much talent being lost
<v Speaker 2>that could potentially make whatever her runaway success that these
<v Speaker 2>Triple A publishers are trying to chase.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's you know, as we stay in these
<v Speaker 1>spaces as consumers. On the other side of it, these
<v Speaker 1>companies that felt like, hey, we charted out growth this direction,
<v Speaker 1>and now our growth is way below that. How do
<v Speaker 1>we close that gap? And it's like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker you, that's your problem, not mine. And they're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>hold my beer, we'll make it your problem. Here is
<v Speaker 1>another set of price increases after the last set of
<v Speaker 1>price increases, which were a great follow up to the
<v Speaker 1>previous price increases, and it's not stopping. No, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>they have every excuse to keep it going. They can
<v Speaker 1>just keep saying fuel prices have gone up. It's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we know we will be paying the most because that's happening.
<v Speaker 1>And you, as a company, I get to get it.
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be paying more as well. You're going to
<v Speaker 1>pass that on to us. We don't get to pass
<v Speaker 1>that on to anybody. So it's gonna just keep coming,
<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna keep getting worse and worse. And so
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have sort of this resentment to this industry
<v Speaker 1>and we will be looking for every way to save
<v Speaker 1>a dollar and spend less on games and maybe play
<v Speaker 1>more free stuff, or maybe do other things entirely get
<v Speaker 1>miserable on and doom scroll on social media because that's
<v Speaker 1>presented as this free thing as opposed to spending seventy
<v Speaker 1>dollars on a game that's only ten hours or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>And so people begin to shut down, and it's going
<v Speaker 3>to spiral a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, We're like this industry does all right
<v Speaker 1>through moments like this, but I do not think we're
<v Speaker 1>necessarily at a bottom for they like how bad things
<v Speaker 1>could get.
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I'm always pessimistic about these things. Jan how do you
<v Speaker 1>sort of see through this fog?
<v Speaker 2>I am kind of with you, Grub, because you know,
<v Speaker 2>talking about people leaving the industry, like that's also not
<v Speaker 2>just ideas, but that's also institutional knowledge, right of Like
<v Speaker 2>folks that know how to use a specific engine, or
<v Speaker 2>people that know how to wrangle and manage and produce
<v Speaker 2>a game or manage a team, and all that is
<v Speaker 2>just going out the window because we have to appease
<v Speaker 2>whatever shareholders want. And it's just a big bummer that
<v Speaker 2>And and I think it's been Microsoft's CEO that has
<v Speaker 2>highlighted short form video as a major competitor and Grub
<v Speaker 2>it's because doom scrolling is free for the most.
<v Speaker 1>Part, and it's like instant dopamine and all this other stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like, yeah, people are in that. It's
<v Speaker 1>shifted into that gear right now because we're defitting ourselves
<v Speaker 1>from spending money. We are building this a protective shell.
<v Speaker 1>This this callous against that, and these companies are trying
<v Speaker 1>to break through. And that also means the people who
<v Speaker 1>are still spending money are going to get nickel and
<v Speaker 1>dimed even more as these companies say, Like I think
<v Speaker 1>it's the PlayStation CEO that's like, hey, we'll just make
<v Speaker 1>more money from the same people, and that means prices.
<v Speaker 3>Go up on everything.
<v Speaker 2>And the wild part Grub is like hearing I think
<v Speaker 2>it was in the story you just read, but like
<v Speaker 2>that there's not enough money to go around, when I
<v Speaker 2>don't find that to be true because these people at
<v Speaker 2>the tippy top still have so much fricking money, grub
<v Speaker 2>like so much. Tim Sweeney with those recently offs at
<v Speaker 2>Epic insane, give.
<v Speaker 1>Abou all those WB studios and David Zasloft golden handcuffs
<v Speaker 1>that are like a billion dollars that he's gonna get
<v Speaker 1>for fucking running that company into the ground.
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, It's insane, and I don't know how we
<v Speaker 2>on on. And I'm just gonna lump us into the
<v Speaker 2>consumer side. I don't know how we are able to
<v Speaker 2>hold anyone accountable when they just keep getting away with it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and yes, and then they're gonna move on to
<v Speaker 1>the next thing and get a promotion. Every single time
<v Speaker 1>they just fail upward over and over again. It's a
<v Speaker 1>club and where none of us are a part of it.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to a break. We got plenty
<v Speaker 1>of other headlines to talk talk about, including funner topics
<v Speaker 1>like that Street Fighter six movie trailer that I had
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun with. We're gonna go to this break.
<v Speaker 1>It is a new trailer for the launch of dos
<v Speaker 1>a divas. You can catch the game right now, be
<v Speaker 1>sure to do so. You can get it on Steam.
<v Speaker 1>You can go ahead and wish list if you're not
<v Speaker 1>ready to buy right now, but go check out the
<v Speaker 1>trailer for yourself. Right now, we're back with Game mess Mornings.
<v Speaker 1>That's Jiannachoa. I'm Jeff Grubb. We're going to continue on
<v Speaker 1>now with the headlines, starting with Xbox CCO details unified
<v Speaker 1>approach for the next gen hit Project Helix console. This
<v Speaker 1>is from Sophie McAvoy edgip is, Xbox's first party studios
<v Speaker 1>will collaborate closely with its hardware team as the company
<v Speaker 1>develops its next generation console.
<v Speaker 3>On the Official Xbox Podcast, CCEO.
<v Speaker 1>Matt Booty outlined the company's unified approach to Project Helix
<v Speaker 1>and emphasized early involvement from publishing and development teams. One
<v Speaker 1>of the really cool things about us blah blah blah.
<v Speaker 1>Basically he just says that the publishing and game development
<v Speaker 1>side are going to work with the hardware side. It's
<v Speaker 1>it is a pretty old story at this point, right
<v Speaker 1>and he even says we've always done that, So really,
<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting at here with this story, Jann is
<v Speaker 1>we keep hearing about Project Helix, and we hear how
<v Speaker 1>it's different that it's going to be a PC in
<v Speaker 1>the console experience put together, but a PC like underneath everything.
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like that sounds very different. And then
<v Speaker 1>all of the language that they use beyond that is
<v Speaker 1>to set it up very much like this is just
<v Speaker 1>another Xbox, and I wonder it's like, do you think
<v Speaker 1>that that is a thoughtful approach, like they're doing that
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, this is going
<v Speaker 1>to feel like another Xbox or are they doing that
<v Speaker 1>because that's the playbook they have and they don't really
<v Speaker 1>understand how to communicate what this thing is yet.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's more of the latter that they
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to communicate this because they themselves don't
<v Speaker 2>quite know what they're making at this point. Because they
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I feel like they've prompted whatever AI the
<v Speaker 2>Microsoft is using too much to that they have so
<v Speaker 2>much confusion as to they don't know which masters to
<v Speaker 2>serve grub because I am very curious what it looks
<v Speaker 2>like on the ground floor for someone that is still
<v Speaker 2>waving the Xbox console flag, Like, what does that look
<v Speaker 2>like for you? What do you What do you want
<v Speaker 2>from a next gen console? Right? Other than Xbox exclusives
<v Speaker 2>potentially like and more bang for your buck? What do
<v Speaker 2>you want? And the thing is what the console player wants.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people at the tippy top and Microsoft
<v Speaker 2>are going or interested in delivering on that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think they are interested in using the
<v Speaker 1>interest in it to like keep a strong link between
<v Speaker 1>them and they're they're a like remaining player base. But
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right that that is not the real
<v Speaker 1>motivating factor for them.
<v Speaker 3>That is not really what they're after.
<v Speaker 1>But they're not sure how to like make those things
<v Speaker 1>meet up, Like speaking of bringing two like do you
<v Speaker 1>unify unifying two sides of a thing, like can we
<v Speaker 1>unify at Xbox this desire to move on to the
<v Speaker 1>future of what our ecosystem can be while speaking to
<v Speaker 1>an audience that very much wants the ecosystem to continue
<v Speaker 1>to be the thing they've already put a lot, a
<v Speaker 1>lot of money into. And it's like, oh, yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be able to figure that out.
<v Speaker 1>That is going to be challenging, and that is why
<v Speaker 1>we keep getting comments like this that just feel like, what.
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys, what are you trying to say about
<v Speaker 3>this project Helix? Again?
<v Speaker 1>Like the pitch is it is going to be more
<v Speaker 1>of a PC than ever before. And obviously the last
<v Speaker 1>several boxes from them have been x eighty six PCs
<v Speaker 1>at their heart with a Windows core and all this stuff. Sure, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that you know a kernel in there that it's the
<v Speaker 1>same as the Windows kernel, That's not what they're talking about.
<v Speaker 1>They're talking about the Windows operating system being foundational here
<v Speaker 1>to the point where you can install Steam, you can
<v Speaker 1>install the Epic Game Store, and that will be very
<v Speaker 1>different from a council we've had before.
<v Speaker 3>So how should we think of when we boot the
<v Speaker 3>thing up?
<v Speaker 2>Like?
<v Speaker 3>What is what am I gonna see? Am I gonna
<v Speaker 3>see Xbox? First? Is am I still buying games primarily
<v Speaker 3>through Xbox? Are their Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>Console exclusives that won't work on PC? Other PCs? Like
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't seem like that's in the cards, but
<v Speaker 1>they aren't ready to talk about any of that.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think. No.
<v Speaker 2>I think Also, it's just such a weird statement statement
<v Speaker 2>that's really a non statement from Matt Booty of like yes, yes, okay, cool,
<v Speaker 2>this is how I have assumed things have been done
<v Speaker 2>for forever. Now, Yes, thanks for clarifying it. I guess, Doug.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that just popped up in my head
<v Speaker 2>grub that may be potentially appealing is if they try
<v Speaker 2>and pull the rug from underneath valve and make their
<v Speaker 2>own equivalent of like a Steam machine that could run
<v Speaker 2>the Epic Game Store, that could potentially run Steam OS
<v Speaker 2>or let you like backdoor install it in a way. However,
<v Speaker 2>part of me is just concerned that if and when
<v Speaker 2>this comes out Project Helix, it's gonna be riddled with
<v Speaker 2>very miscllaneous Microsoft products that you don't need, like teams.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's a very strong chance that will
<v Speaker 1>be exactly the case. Yeah, they just won't take that
<v Speaker 1>stuff out. At the very least, it's going to be
<v Speaker 1>riddled with Microsoft design. And that might be enough of
<v Speaker 1>a problem because that was a problem with the Xbox
<v Speaker 1>roger ally handheld. Yeah, you know, it's not such a
<v Speaker 1>problem that that thing is unusable, of course, but it
<v Speaker 1>is less elegant than you would expect from what is
<v Speaker 1>supposed to just be a dedicated gaming device. And now
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Microsoft continue to say they want to get that
<v Speaker 1>stuff right they've said that.
<v Speaker 3>They've said that before and for a long time now,
<v Speaker 3>and we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>You know, going back to very very early into the
<v Speaker 2>show Grub where you're talking about how the gimmicks your
<v Speaker 2>kids really resonate with something like Tomadacci life because it
<v Speaker 2>is a method of play, right, they're just playing with it.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like at Microsoft and in other places, the
<v Speaker 2>vision is so blurry now that they forget that that
<v Speaker 2>is what the primary objectives is, to get people to
<v Speaker 2>play things rather than to just spend money.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean, they're a platform company and they look
<v Speaker 1>at everything through the lens of platforms and ecosystems, and
<v Speaker 1>that becomes their product first, and the games become a
<v Speaker 1>secondary thought.
<v Speaker 2>I so desperately wish these tech CEOs would have a
<v Speaker 2>ratitude moment where their hearts are cured and they remember,
<v Speaker 2>oh the love of the game, literally the game. But
<v Speaker 2>I don't think any amount of rats cooking food for
<v Speaker 2>them will we'll solve Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the biggest fantasy of Dickinson is a billionaire
<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of a billionaire learning a lesson.
<v Speaker 3>That's not gonna happen. All right, let's.
<v Speaker 1>Keep going here, us I'll just read it. Headline writing
<v Speaker 1>is a lost art everybody. Street Fighters six is long
<v Speaker 1>awaited incest nerf is here does basically nothing street I
<v Speaker 1>think this is from I have to assume this is
<v Speaker 1>from Kataku.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't write it down, but okay.
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's from Kenneth Well, I think I'm
<v Speaker 2>pretty sure it's from Kenneth.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, shouts out to Kenneth Shepherd.
<v Speaker 1>At the very least, I know it's that Kotaku head
<v Speaker 1>line writing team, and they always crush it.
<v Speaker 3>Street Fighter six has.
<v Speaker 1>Been dealing with the problem of its own making for
<v Speaker 1>about a month now. After a put fan favorite fighter
<v Speaker 1>Alex in an incestuous relationship with his second cousin slash
<v Speaker 1>adopted sister Patricia, much to the they just doubled up
<v Speaker 1>the incests, much to the dismay of longtime fans. Capcom
<v Speaker 1>said it would be addressing quote misleading text in Alex's
<v Speaker 1>story that might have led to all the discomfort, and
<v Speaker 1>even released a short story trying to cover its decades
<v Speaker 1>old tracks. Now the long awaited patches out now, and
<v Speaker 1>it does absolutely nothing. The patch notes don't get into
<v Speaker 1>the specifics, as they merely say that the text of
<v Speaker 1>Alex's world story segments have been adjusted, but looking at
<v Speaker 1>the game itself, it seems that the change is to
<v Speaker 1>one line of dialogue in which Alex tells the player
<v Speaker 1>about growing up with Tom, his first cousin, once removed
<v Speaker 1>and the father of his future bride, Patricia. In the
<v Speaker 1>original version, Alex explicitly tells players that Tom is his
<v Speaker 1>late mother's cousin, which would make his daughter Patricia Alex's
<v Speaker 1>second cousin. How could Capcom possibly hope to quote fix
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing with years of established backstory establishing that
<v Speaker 1>Alex and Patricia are blood related. It can't and it
<v Speaker 1>barely tries. Yeah, okay, so this is how you do it.
<v Speaker 1>This is how you patch cousin marriage in your video game.
<v Speaker 3>I guess no, I don't. It doesn't sound they didn't
<v Speaker 3>change it.
<v Speaker 1>Really, the foundational elements here all that's still true, and
<v Speaker 1>the one line they took out here, it's not like
<v Speaker 1>it changes any of that law. It just drops a
<v Speaker 1>reference to something that, as the story points out, is
<v Speaker 1>already established law. So that is from that's predating the game.
<v Speaker 1>Just dropping that mention doesn't change anything.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think this is one of the rare
<v Speaker 2>capcom stumbles of this year. You know they're they're on
<v Speaker 2>a heat heat grub with uh with r E nine pragmata.
<v Speaker 2>I guess incest comes for us all huh yep. And
<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. I feel like people will latch onto
<v Speaker 2>whatever story is available in fighting games because it's so
<v Speaker 2>light on most of it, right, Like, we're all very
<v Speaker 2>familiar with what or at least what has happened in
<v Speaker 2>the world of Mortal Kombat, and because the story is
<v Speaker 2>a part of that game, but with Street Fighter it's
<v Speaker 2>kind of less. So we're just like, oh, these two
<v Speaker 2>dudes kind of do the same moves and they kind
<v Speaker 2>of wear the same things, but one wears a headband.
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh okay cool, the guy with like the American
<v Speaker 2>flag tattoo. He's friends with that guy, but that guy's sad.
<v Speaker 2>And then now that guy's just like emits electricity and
<v Speaker 2>oh that guy insane, that's.
<v Speaker 1>His special power. Yeah, so yeah, I'll read this chat
<v Speaker 1>if you're freaking out about it.
<v Speaker 3>Alex.
<v Speaker 1>The line change was changed from whatever it was before
<v Speaker 1>to now. Alex refers to Tom as quote a distant
<v Speaker 1>relative of my mom or something, which is hilarious. Not
<v Speaker 1>only because it doesn't change or contradict anything from before,
<v Speaker 1>as it still confirms the familiar familial relationship between these people,
<v Speaker 1>but because calling someone and cousin a distant relative is
<v Speaker 1>incredibly disingenuous.
<v Speaker 3>Yep. Wait, he's embarrassed and he's trying to cover it up.
<v Speaker 2>God, it's okay, it's a little too late. Grab you.
<v Speaker 2>It's one of your idioms that I really enjoy. But
<v Speaker 2>you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
<v Speaker 3>You can't. Yes, absolutely not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one is just going to be how people
<v Speaker 1>will think of Alex and at least partially Street Fighter
<v Speaker 1>six four forever. This is just gonna be on this
<v Speaker 1>game and now on this series.
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah. I even if they try and retcon it
<v Speaker 2>in like a couple months to a year, it's it's
<v Speaker 2>just gonna stick.
<v Speaker 3>Alex can build a thousand bridges. He fucked one cousin.
<v Speaker 3>He ain't.
<v Speaker 1>We were not calling him a bridge builder, is what
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That's not what we're gonna be calling him.
<v Speaker 2>No, No, he could probably do something heinous in the
<v Speaker 2>video games. He could become the primary antagonist.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he could do a terrorism and we're not gonna
<v Speaker 1>He's not it's not a terrorist. That's the cousin fucker.
<v Speaker 2>Come on, like grub like unfortunately, you know some things,
<v Speaker 2>some things even from school or high school, stick with people.
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna stick with Alex and unfortunately I hate that.
<v Speaker 2>A by product of this grub is that it's kind
<v Speaker 2>of lingering around Kenny Omega.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, he's just walking around with that Alex stank
<v Speaker 3>on him.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>He did so much work, so much good work on it.
<v Speaker 1>It's uh so much good work. And Kenny is such
<v Speaker 1>a like the dude too.
<v Speaker 3>It's a dude.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah all right, Well, speaking of wrestlers and street Fighter,
<v Speaker 1>street Fighter exudes visual identity and charisma, and it's an
<v Speaker 1>official trailer. This is from Alberto Garrito at Game Reactor. Jane,
<v Speaker 1>did you get a chance to check this out this morning?
<v Speaker 2>I have not grub unfortunately, all right.
<v Speaker 3>I did, and I liked what I saw.
<v Speaker 1>I wrote that it reminds me of like or it
<v Speaker 1>makes me think of what the world would have been
<v Speaker 1>like if the original nineteen nineties Super Mario Brothers movie
<v Speaker 1>was a massive hit, and like that sort of camp
<v Speaker 1>became like the default way to adapt a video game
<v Speaker 1>into a movie. This looks campy as hell and like
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun and straight dog shit, Like it
<v Speaker 1>looks like dog shit, but I don't care because.
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, I love it.
<v Speaker 1>It looks so visually weird and interesting, and they have harsh, bright,
<v Speaker 1>colorful lighting on so many of the scenes in a
<v Speaker 1>way that feels like, yeah, the game is this cartoon
<v Speaker 1>come to life and then made three D. So it's
<v Speaker 1>like it always stood in this position between photorealistic and
<v Speaker 1>completely stylistic, and the movie is trying to adapt to
<v Speaker 1>that sensibility in a way that I find admirable because
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have some huge, endless budget obviously to accomplish that.
<v Speaker 1>So they pick and choose what they're going for. And
<v Speaker 1>the answer in a lot of those situations, their idea
<v Speaker 1>is what we can do, turn it up to eleven,
<v Speaker 1>just go all the way off the charts, no middle
<v Speaker 1>sliders the movie and I'm into it.
<v Speaker 2>I am scanning through the trailer now and yeah, Grub
<v Speaker 2>kind of nailed it with the vibe of this movie.
<v Speaker 2>It looks stupid, it looks it's not a bad thing, right,
<v Speaker 2>like interesting, yes, and I feel like we have we're
<v Speaker 2>in such an interesting place with movie adaptations of video
<v Speaker 2>games grub where the I forget the name of the game, apologies,
<v Speaker 2>folks at home. Is it exit eight?
<v Speaker 3>Exit eight? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Exit eight is like on A is doing incredibly well critically,
<v Speaker 2>fans of the game really enjoy it. But also we're
<v Speaker 2>in a place where, you know, the Sonic movies are
<v Speaker 2>some of the biggest grossing movies now and has changed
<v Speaker 2>Sonic's trajectory now, and you know, Mario doing incredibly well
<v Speaker 2>despite the movies kind of be middling and a little
<v Speaker 2>too loud for Jeff Backlar, but that's okay. And then
<v Speaker 2>we also have like the the Five Nights movies. Right,
<v Speaker 2>we're at a second one and they're probably going to
<v Speaker 2>make a third one because those do so well with
<v Speaker 2>those the audience of those games. I hope this does well.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's gonna do critically well, but I
<v Speaker 2>hope this does well because this is gonna remind people
<v Speaker 2>of the campiness of, like, like you said, the original
<v Speaker 2>Super Mario Live Action movie and the Mortal Kombat movie,
<v Speaker 2>because I can't shake that from my head seeing this.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, and I get, like someone Chad said,
<v Speaker 1>like is good force camp. We'll see and it's like, yeah, look,
<v Speaker 1>I think some people involved might be forcing the camp.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone on the cast thinks they're doing
<v Speaker 1>anything but the coolest shit anyone's ever done.
<v Speaker 3>They all look so proud of themselves, and that's great.
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, not judging them other than to say it's
<v Speaker 1>not that cool and it looks really dumb, And I
<v Speaker 1>love that you are just still going for it and
<v Speaker 1>acting like your shit don't stink, because that just that
<v Speaker 1>has such a strong contrast in the sort of a
<v Speaker 1>spirit of the movie, and it comes through.
<v Speaker 2>I think forgot fifty is in this movie.
<v Speaker 3>That's I think that might be like what really set
<v Speaker 3>me over.
<v Speaker 1>It's like he's just he's just being fifty cent with
<v Speaker 1>a really weird headpiece to make him have the bell
<v Speaker 1>rog hair or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great.
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna make mbs in a dufis, aren't they.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's what's his name? I can never remember how
<v Speaker 3>to say his name, but Polka dot Man.
<v Speaker 2>PoCA dot Man from Suicide Squad. Yeah. Yeah. Also, there's
<v Speaker 2>a shot of like Guile in full costume sitting next
<v Speaker 2>to the Andrew Cogy who plays Ryu in a hoodie
<v Speaker 2>at a club.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, and that's Cody is is Gile and his hair.
<v Speaker 1>If they just do the hair and it's the hair
<v Speaker 1>from the game, I'm like, Okay, yeah, they're not cowards,
<v Speaker 1>even like that original campy street Fighter movie, which is
<v Speaker 1>also kind of great, a really good time. So I look,
<v Speaker 1>we're getting the Mario movies. They're making a ton of money,
<v Speaker 1>and I do think that there is something a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of the lost art of the weird adaptation that
<v Speaker 1>that movie completely sands away. And fine whatever, I still
<v Speaker 1>have a good time with those Mario movies. I'm glad
<v Speaker 1>we get these as well. This I think it's gonna
<v Speaker 1>be a good time.
<v Speaker 3>All right.
<v Speaker 1>Hades two is out this week on PS five and Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>The Xbox doesn't have enough reviews yet to get a Metacritic,
<v Speaker 1>but the PS five version being very well received on Metacritic.
<v Speaker 1>For that version right now, people can check that out.
<v Speaker 1>And then, right as the show was going live, see
<v Speaker 1>here the Neo Geo let's I think it's the Yes,
<v Speaker 1>the Neo AES plus was announced. They're going to release
<v Speaker 1>this thing in November twelfth. It is kind of all
<v Speaker 1>in one way to play Neo Geo games. But I
<v Speaker 1>think you can even use the arcade boards in here?
<v Speaker 1>Is that how that works? Chat remember seeing this and
<v Speaker 1>not having enough time to check things out. But it's
<v Speaker 1>well priced. It's only like two hundred and fifty dollars
<v Speaker 1>for the all in pack. I think you can get
<v Speaker 1>the one with the arcade stick for even less than that.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'm sorry, that is just the arcade stick. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>this is from play On, which is Embracer, which is
<v Speaker 1>kind of weird. But hey, I will probably be looking
<v Speaker 1>into this thing. Never really had much experience using anything
<v Speaker 1>neogo like in terms of shoot hardware, so would really
<v Speaker 1>like to check this out. So, okay, does the old
<v Speaker 1>eight home AES cards? Those are often pretty expensive, right,
<v Speaker 1>so that might be a little bit challenging if that's
<v Speaker 1>the way to do it, But I bet there's ways
<v Speaker 1>around that.
<v Speaker 3>And it is not an FPGA thing. Interesting.
<v Speaker 1>I wonder is it just an emulator box? So if
<v Speaker 1>that's the case, that's a little bit less exciting. All right, Well,
<v Speaker 1>I'll look into this more. We'll bring it to tomorrow
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow stories and really cover exactly what's going on here.
<v Speaker 1>It's Thursday, It's not time for the Bomb twelve everybody,
<v Speaker 1>but you do have one more day to put your
<v Speaker 1>game in for the bomb twelve. So go to GiantBomb
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hit the vote here tab plenty of respondents
<v Speaker 1>so far. Let's get as much of a response as
<v Speaker 1>we can. We'll do that tomorrow. So for now, let's
<v Speaker 1>switch over to the poll question from yesterday. I have
<v Speaker 1>the results right over here. I am going to refresh.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see there all right. Are you excited?
<v Speaker 2>No?
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.
<v Speaker 1>Are you getting forts A Horizon six in May? Your
<v Speaker 1>options were yes, no, no, I'll get it later, and no,
<v Speaker 1>I'll wait for the PS five release. Forty three percent
<v Speaker 1>said just straight up no. Then twenty seven percent said
<v Speaker 1>yes they're going to get it in May, sixteen percent
<v Speaker 1>says no, I'll wait for the PS five release, and
<v Speaker 1>fifteen percent say no, I'll get it later.
<v Speaker 3>We know this is a massively successful series, so I.
<v Speaker 1>Wonder if that's you know, predictive of oh yeah, this
<v Speaker 1>is also going to shoot out of the gate really strong,
<v Speaker 1>or if there's a chance people are.
<v Speaker 3>A little bit tired of forts A Horizon maybe not.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's hard to say.
<v Speaker 2>You know, we were talking about Rockstar and their positioning.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it is on the BombCast this week, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>and I completely forgot that Midnight Club was a rock
<v Speaker 2>Star Jimmy Jam Yep. People love cars, people love driving,
<v Speaker 2>especially in games. It's too expensive to shoot drive now, Grub,
<v Speaker 2>so people just looking for that escapism and Forts is
<v Speaker 2>definitely Forts A Horizon specifically has definitely been delivering on
<v Speaker 2>that that. I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been more
<v Speaker 2>of an effort from the Triple A side to make
<v Speaker 2>more driving games.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was just actually like craving this so bad
<v Speaker 1>that I'm I kind of want to play the Crew
<v Speaker 1>motor Fest, which I know Mike really liked.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I might go do that.
<v Speaker 1>Although Forts six Horizon six is out next month, so
<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's that much of a wait for
<v Speaker 1>the one that's gonna take place in Japan, which is
<v Speaker 1>a region I really want to play in that game.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I will occasionally think about and I would
<v Speaker 2>never use it. It'd be the stupidest expenditure of my money,
<v Speaker 2>which I probably, you know, should be more mindful of.
<v Speaker 2>But I occasionally just want a racing wheel, Grub.
<v Speaker 3>I know, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, we can reach out to like Logitech
<v Speaker 1>and see if they have anything new that's either that.
<v Speaker 2>Or like one of those guitar hero, rock Band Control
<v Speaker 2>or guitars.
<v Speaker 1>I did Kickstarter back a new kind of high end
<v Speaker 1>DDR pad and I can't wait for that to get here.
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'll be spending my time doing is dancing.
<v Speaker 1>You deserve it chat, Thank you, Jan, That's what I'm trying.
<v Speaker 1>That's all I need people to say, is I deserve
<v Speaker 1>to dance. All right, A new poll question. Are you
<v Speaker 1>excited about the Street Fighter movie?
<v Speaker 3>Yes?
<v Speaker 1>No, we'll talk about that here on Giant Bomb on
<v Speaker 1>game this Morning's tomorrow. Speaking a Giant Bomb, Jan, it's Thursday.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have voicemail dump Truck. Anything else we should
<v Speaker 1>tell the people.
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<v Speaker 2>a grub mota.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, I'm I'm looking forward to it. People in
<v Speaker 1>chat are saying, hey, Greub, did you cancel your dance
<v Speaker 1>sub for Just Dance? And it's a legal for you
<v Speaker 1>to ask me that you're not allowed shut up.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Also, someone can guide me through the process of
<v Speaker 2>canceling your Paramount plus subscription.
<v Speaker 3>Please.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see, we did the new poll question,
<v Speaker 1>we told people what's happening.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing grub, madam.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone just seems to love it, and I bet it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be my shit at the end of the day.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, learning about your taste in games Grub and
<v Speaker 2>what you like and the stories that do resonate with you.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to gas you up too much. I
<v Speaker 2>do think you will enjoy pragmata.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yes, I'm looking forward to it, is what I'll say.
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, we'll be starting that Friday evening tomorrow evening, everybody,
<v Speaker 1>So let's wrap this show up and get onto the
<v Speaker 1>rest of the week. Jan thank you so much for
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with me today and talking about video games.
<v Speaker 3>Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>It's the only way to start a Thursday.
<v Speaker 1>Greb, thank you all for watching and listening. You are
<v Speaker 1>the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have a
<v Speaker 1>good one, take care of yourself, and.
<v Speaker 2>Goodbye, Gutchikuchiku. We're tickling you today.
<v Speaker 3>Bye.