BIGFOOT AND MOTHMAN ENCOUNTER IN LOWER MICHIGAN | I CALLED HIM MURDER MAN

<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory Bigfoot interview.
<v Speaker 1>On this episode, we have Nicki Black from the Lower
<v Speaker 1>region of Michigan. Nicki is a longtime musician and he
<v Speaker 1>has hunted the forest of Michigan for many years now.
<v Speaker 1>Nicki has had many strange experiences out in the forest
<v Speaker 1>and on one occasion he encountered a large, upright black
<v Speaker 1>creature that walked out of the forest. He has also
<v Speaker 1>encountered a wing creature that he refers to as mothman
<v Speaker 1>out in the forest of Michigan. If you guys enjoy
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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, all that being said, let's dive into
<v Speaker 1>Nicky's encounter from the state of Michigan. All right, Nicki Black,
<v Speaker 1>welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today.
<v Speaker 2>I'm good, Thank you, Miguel, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>No problem. I'm glad to have you on the show
<v Speaker 1>as a guest, and I'm fine I'm glad we finally
<v Speaker 1>get to talk about your bigfoot encounters and experiences. NICKI,
<v Speaker 1>if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>kind of where you're from and these encounters that took
<v Speaker 1>place in Michigan.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I grew up in Michigan all my life.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sixty years old. I'd been hunting and fishing all
<v Speaker 2>my life. I traveled extensively. I'm kind of like known
<v Speaker 2>as a rock and roll hill billy, I like to
<v Speaker 2>call myself because I go between you know, the natural
<v Speaker 2>world and the the busy world out there. When I
<v Speaker 2>was in the world, and I spent a lot of
<v Speaker 2>time hunting and fishing. And I'm the kind of hunter
<v Speaker 2>that my friends when I was younger, they would call me,
<v Speaker 2>you know, recon Rambo because I'm the guy that wears
<v Speaker 2>the gilly suit, who takes full pack and takes off
<v Speaker 2>when we go to deer camp or whatever. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to go and do my own thing. So I'm
<v Speaker 2>very comfortable in nature. I'm very well aware of things
<v Speaker 2>in nature. So yeah, that's that's me. You know. I
<v Speaker 2>like to hunt and fish and I'm sixty years old
<v Speaker 2>now it's slowed down a little bit because I'm older
<v Speaker 2>and it's a very dangerous thing to do to get
<v Speaker 2>out in the woods by yourself. So you know, I
<v Speaker 2>have to pick and choose my times now as I'm
<v Speaker 2>getting older unfortunately.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I appreciate you for sharing that. And Nikki, what
<v Speaker 1>were you doing when you had your first bigfoot encounter?
<v Speaker 1>Can you put me in your shoes please?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay, So I'm huh. You know, I live in
<v Speaker 2>the suburbs of Detroit, place called Plymouth, Michigan, So we
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of state land around here. Back in
<v Speaker 2>the late eighties, I would say, after I had gotten
<v Speaker 2>out of high school, you know, on my own, I
<v Speaker 2>got into you know, I was always in the hunting,
<v Speaker 2>but bow hunting season started in October and then guns
<v Speaker 2>starts up in November, so I always went out to
<v Speaker 2>Island Lake. It's a state game area. The Huron River,
<v Speaker 2>which has been talked about in your shows before, runs
<v Speaker 2>through this area. And so with that being said, I
<v Speaker 2>had I had, I had gone over a barrier where
<v Speaker 2>they had blocked off part of the park and they
<v Speaker 2>shut down these trails, and through this area was really thick,
<v Speaker 2>a lot fire weed, a lot of prickory and it
<v Speaker 2>goes back to the river and back to a marsh area.
<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, I always wear a gilly suit,
<v Speaker 2>and I put myself in situations and places that are tight,
<v Speaker 2>and you're not gonna see me. You're not gonna hear me.
<v Speaker 2>You're you're not going to see me come in, you're
<v Speaker 2>not gonna see me leave. And so I'm sitting there
<v Speaker 2>one night and I'm bow hunting, and it's getting to
<v Speaker 2>get dark. And now I'm facing east and behind me
<v Speaker 2>to the west is the swamp. To my north is
<v Speaker 2>the rivers. You're on river, and then you know, the
<v Speaker 2>park is out to the south side, and it's an
<v Speaker 2>open field. I can see probably you know, fifty yards
<v Speaker 2>across this field to my left and to my front.
<v Speaker 2>To my right was more wooded. And so I had
<v Speaker 2>tucked myself in there, sitting with the gillies suit, just
<v Speaker 2>you know, mine in my business. And I call this
<v Speaker 2>story murder Man because I always tell people I go,
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be careful when you go in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>You might you might run into murder Man. And so
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there and it's getting dark, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I hear a noise coming from my left, from behind me,
<v Speaker 2>and here's this person right about six foot tall man.
<v Speaker 2>He's all in black, looks like he has a hoodie on,
<v Speaker 2>and he's walking out from the swamp area and he's
<v Speaker 2>walking through this field filled with you know, fireweed and
<v Speaker 2>stuff and you know, obstacles. And I'm like, well, I
<v Speaker 2>look at this dude. I go then he must have
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I call him murderman. Did he just
<v Speaker 2>come in here and kill his wife or you know?
<v Speaker 2>Or is he a drug Guys? He got wheat plants
<v Speaker 2>back there, and you know, I didn't give it much
<v Speaker 2>stock because I was young. But now when I look
<v Speaker 2>back at it, I'm like, there's no way anybody could
<v Speaker 2>come out of there. And the funny thing was he
<v Speaker 2>was walking with purpose. He had arm swing, he had
<v Speaker 2>that that movement that you see of these sasquats. He
<v Speaker 2>had the longer arms right, and that the hood he
<v Speaker 2>had in him being all black, me not seeing a face,
<v Speaker 2>that just that's that contra, right. I was. I was
<v Speaker 2>catching him, you know, as he's moving away from my
<v Speaker 2>left and he was moving, you know, he wasn't like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I gotta be caurefol because I'm walking
<v Speaker 2>through the woods and you know, I'm wearing a black goody,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking to myself, why is somebody out here
<v Speaker 2>all in black, coming out of the swamp at dark?
<v Speaker 2>And you know it's hunting season in Michigan. You know,
<v Speaker 2>that's a very dangerous thing to do, is to be
<v Speaker 2>walking in the woods with hunters. And so I just
<v Speaker 2>watched them move out, and then you know, as they
<v Speaker 2>got dark, I gathered myself out and I left. And
<v Speaker 2>I never gave much thought to it. I always understood
<v Speaker 2>the legends from from history, right from what the Indians
<v Speaker 2>tell you and what what the old folks would tell you.
<v Speaker 2>You know, don't go out in the woods and dark.
<v Speaker 2>You know there's things out there, don't you know. Be careful.
<v Speaker 2>And as a person who grew up one in Detroit,
<v Speaker 2>I'm on high alert all the time, and being in
<v Speaker 2>the woods all the time, I have that uncanny sense
<v Speaker 2>to be one with nature. I'm the guy where I
<v Speaker 2>sit there in a gilly suit and I get deer
<v Speaker 2>walk up to me. Right they know that they're comfortable
<v Speaker 2>because I won't. I won't take them. The deer that
<v Speaker 2>know that I'm hunting them, stay away from me. But
<v Speaker 2>they're dear that know that I'm cool with him, and
<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll come walking around. So that was my first
<v Speaker 2>you know, sighting of what I call you know, uh,
<v Speaker 2>I call him Murderman, the guy walking all and you know,
<v Speaker 2>all black figure moving through the woods.
<v Speaker 1>And what did this creature look like?
<v Speaker 2>It was all black, It was smooth, right. I thought
<v Speaker 2>he had like a honey like a hoodie on right,
<v Speaker 2>because it was all black. It was black black, and
<v Speaker 2>it stood out right. And the thing was when I
<v Speaker 2>say he had a hoodie, because I could see that point,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like where you wear a hood and you
<v Speaker 2>can see like that time caveness, and I'm like, wow,
<v Speaker 2>this dude's bundled up and he you know, he's walking
<v Speaker 2>with purpose. He must have done something right. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>I just watched him walk out. It was probably a
<v Speaker 2>five to six second you know, watching him cut through
<v Speaker 2>the woods and he just kept moving on, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want anybody to know where I'm at,
<v Speaker 2>so I just let I just let it go, and
<v Speaker 2>he came off. He would have been on the upside
<v Speaker 2>wind side of me. So if he came out of
<v Speaker 2>that swamp and was to my left, that's the northwest side.
<v Speaker 2>The wind's blowing in my direction. He would have never
<v Speaker 2>smelled me, you would have never hurt me. And he
<v Speaker 2>was walking on purpose. So you know, when you're walking
<v Speaker 2>with purpose through the woods, you're not really paying attention.
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to get somewhere. And so it wasn't sneaking.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't you know, it didn't have that hesitation like
<v Speaker 2>a hook as human would as it would walk. But
<v Speaker 2>it was all black. I remember being super black and
<v Speaker 2>that kind of cave that that hooty head.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and what happened after this encounter, h.
<v Speaker 2>Well, after that, you know, I normally hunted and went
<v Speaker 2>on my ways, you know, but I never you know,
<v Speaker 2>again my encounters in the woods with things happening. And
<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to your other guests. People say that,
<v Speaker 2>you know these bigfoot sasquatch, you know they can sense you,
<v Speaker 2>they can they know you. Right, So as a hunter,
<v Speaker 2>especially back then when I was young, I was I
<v Speaker 2>was gung ho, right, I was. I'm not I'm not
<v Speaker 2>gonna go in the woods unarmed. I'm gonna I am
<v Speaker 2>aggressive to things that are are not hunting. Right. If
<v Speaker 2>I see people in the woods or something. I'm watching you, right,
<v Speaker 2>I am always on alert. I know I've seen cougar,
<v Speaker 2>I've seen wolves. I've seen bears in Michigan and the
<v Speaker 2>DNR denies these things being in the lower right, and
<v Speaker 2>they're here. The signs are here. You can see them,
<v Speaker 2>you know these things. So when I'm in the woods,
<v Speaker 2>I'm always on high alert. But as I watched your
<v Speaker 2>show and I listened to people, then I start putting
<v Speaker 2>together all the things. The knocks, those howls right, that
<v Speaker 2>owl call that shouldn't be there. I've been I hunt
<v Speaker 2>the maynasty and here on National Forest when I was younger,
<v Speaker 2>and I would spend days living in the primeval of
<v Speaker 2>those woods, and there were times that it made me
<v Speaker 2>super uneasy. You knew you were being watched. You knew
<v Speaker 2>something was out there, and you would hear the things,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the xes and all those like tree stand
<v Speaker 2>things that you those leaning trees and things. They're all
<v Speaker 2>in those woods. You know, the guy from Manstein talking
<v Speaker 2>about you know stuff, and the guy from Oscota telling
<v Speaker 2>you all that stuff. Oh yeah, they're there, they're there.
<v Speaker 2>I've had more wood knocks, more howls, more dead times
<v Speaker 2>in the woods and the woods are live. When you
<v Speaker 2>sit in the in nature, it's it's moving, and there
<v Speaker 2>were times where it made me very uneasy. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>so I've had that. And then the next one happened,
<v Speaker 2>I would say probably in two thoy and twelve, and
<v Speaker 2>this would have been turkey season spring turkey season April
<v Speaker 2>in Michigan. Now I'm at another state park away from
<v Speaker 2>Island Lake. I go out to Highland State Recreation Area,
<v Speaker 2>which I had a lot of things happened to me
<v Speaker 2>out there. But so I'm hunting these three turkeys. I
<v Speaker 2>gave them the nickname the Three Brothers, and they are
<v Speaker 2>on a private lake up on a ridge and they
<v Speaker 2>would bruist up on this ridge. Now, the one side
<v Speaker 2>that I entered to try to access them was a
<v Speaker 2>swamp side off off a dirt road in this Highland
<v Speaker 2>State Recreation Area and on the other side are houses.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, they these birds got themselves a real
<v Speaker 2>good roost up there. So I you know, I'm avid
<v Speaker 2>hunter and I love turkey hunting. So again I'm all
<v Speaker 2>cameled up. I going very stealthy. I had a good
<v Speaker 2>day of calling one of those times down and he
<v Speaker 2>came in and I almost got a shot at him.
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is, as you walk into this swampy trail,
<v Speaker 2>there's a little grassy area that opens up and it's
<v Speaker 2>perfect for sitting there with a thirty forty yard shot.
<v Speaker 2>Right and on this grassy area, there's one single perfect
<v Speaker 2>Christmas tree and I call it the Christmas tree because
<v Speaker 2>it was perfect. It was an evergreen all by itself,
<v Speaker 2>and it was probably six feet tongue five six feet tongue,
<v Speaker 2>solid tree, and I used it to back myself up,
<v Speaker 2>and I never cut any limbs off of it. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't use it, you know, I didn't destroy the tree
<v Speaker 2>or anything. So I had a good hunt, and I decide,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the next while I'm hunting these turkeys. The
<v Speaker 2>next day, I hunt a different spot because going into
<v Speaker 2>that spot during the morning during dark is really hard.
<v Speaker 2>So I went hunted at another spot the next day. Now,
<v Speaker 2>got struck out that morning, so I drive around and
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go check the three brothers. I go
<v Speaker 2>walking back there and somebody had taken the top of
<v Speaker 2>that pine tree and it was almost like somebody jumped
<v Speaker 2>on it and snapped the top. And it made me
<v Speaker 2>so mad, Miguel, because I'm like why would somebody destroy
<v Speaker 2>this tree? What's you know, what kind of idiot comes
<v Speaker 2>out here and tops a tree that's perfectly growing and
<v Speaker 2>does this. And you know it was a big, thick
<v Speaker 2>pine tree. You know it was healthy, and I know
<v Speaker 2>it made me mad because I thought it was a human.
<v Speaker 2>And I sat there and hunted and nothing, no calls, nothing,
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I came back to that area that
<v Speaker 2>season and never never got those three brothers to call,
<v Speaker 2>never saw them again. And over the next couple of years,
<v Speaker 2>even if somebody took one or two of them, you
<v Speaker 2>would still have that dominant tom still running around right there,
<v Speaker 2>their territorial birds. I never heard or saw the three
<v Speaker 2>brothers after that tree got broke, And now I know,
<v Speaker 2>now I know what broke it, because nothing could be
<v Speaker 2>could break that tree unless you were strong enough. It
<v Speaker 2>would take like a big fat dude to jump up
<v Speaker 2>on a tree and pull on it and snap it
<v Speaker 2>like that. And they left it right, They didn't. It
<v Speaker 2>wasn't used for somebody for cameluflage. They didn't snap it
<v Speaker 2>and put it on the ground to make a ground bind.
<v Speaker 2>It was like just like vandalism.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had the same experience in my life. One year,
<v Speaker 1>I was white tail hunting and I had this black
<v Speaker 1>chair sitting next to this pretty large cedar tree. I
<v Speaker 1>mean I think it was like six day inches in diameter,
<v Speaker 1>and it was a nice fall day. Nothing happened, and
<v Speaker 1>that evening came and I didn't see anything. So I thought, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna come back here in the morning, and they'll
<v Speaker 1>probably be crossing through this area because it's right off
<v Speaker 1>of a deer trail. It didn't rain, there was no wind,
<v Speaker 1>nothing unusual with the weather. I go back the next
<v Speaker 1>morning and that healthy cedar tree about seven to nine
<v Speaker 1>feet high up is snapped and the top of the
<v Speaker 1>ceedar is laying right next to my chair, And I
<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, Man, that's weird, because like, what could
<v Speaker 1>have done that. There was no wind, it didn't rain.
<v Speaker 1>There hasn't been any snow, no eyes nothing.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no lightning strike. Yeah, you know. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>That happened to be the area, the same exact area
<v Speaker 1>that years later I had a bigfoot encounter in.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you see, I never you know, I know
<v Speaker 2>that there's things out there, right, but I'd never concern
<v Speaker 2>myself because as a seer, I'm well aware of these mythological,
<v Speaker 2>what story creatures that have always existed. So I when
<v Speaker 2>I go out or I feel protected because I'm connected, right,
<v Speaker 2>So I know that even if they're out there, they
<v Speaker 2>don't dare mess with me because one, I'm aware of them,
<v Speaker 2>and they they're they're well aware of me spiritually and physically, right,
<v Speaker 2>they know that I'm not gonna You know, back then,
<v Speaker 2>I probably would have not played nice, you know. Now,
<v Speaker 2>being older, I would give them space.
<v Speaker 1>Right absolutely, and that let me know that they were
<v Speaker 1>watching me. I didn't know it at the time, but
<v Speaker 1>years later, after I had an encounter in that same
<v Speaker 1>exact spot, I thought back to that time and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, they were giving me a warning sign.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you know the funny thing is, like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I go hunting in these you know, very far away
<v Speaker 2>from people areas, and you know, I'm baiting and I
<v Speaker 2>got you know, deer, and I know what's there. But
<v Speaker 2>and you go out to them and there's that airy
<v Speaker 2>quietness and you hear the knox, you hear the owl
<v Speaker 2>calls during the day, which is odd, and you don't
<v Speaker 2>see anything and it just you know, there's times I've
<v Speaker 2>walked out where I've been very uneasy, right, I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 2>I think I'll just go stay in the cabin for
<v Speaker 2>a bit. Yeah. So whatever broke that pine tree again.
<v Speaker 2>It did it like you and me if we came
<v Speaker 2>up to a little two foot Charlie Brown Christmas tree
<v Speaker 2>and we just snapped it, went up to the top
<v Speaker 2>of it and just snapped it over it. That's exactly
<v Speaker 2>what it was. And the funny thing is those turkeys
<v Speaker 2>are gone. And those turkeys had, you know, a really
<v Speaker 2>good roosting area. They were dominated in this area. I
<v Speaker 2>hunted them for like a couple of years, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>so I knew they were there. I always knew they
<v Speaker 2>were a hard target to get to because they could
<v Speaker 2>go down that ridge and be on the other side
<v Speaker 2>and get to the houses, or they have a swamp, right.
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is that ridge again, every one of
<v Speaker 2>your bigfoot things, these things are on bridges, they're in
<v Speaker 2>those they're in that thick swamp bottoms. They're using these
<v Speaker 2>places to crisscross and cut through and where they can't
<v Speaker 2>be seen. And unless they want to be seen, right,
<v Speaker 2>they'ren't going to show themselves to you at all. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I hunt, I can't I hunt so good. I was
<v Speaker 2>out in Island Lake once and I was bow hunting
<v Speaker 2>and some dude is coming down the trail behind me,
<v Speaker 2>clanking his tree stand because he's got it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>horrible one over his shoulder and he's planking along in
<v Speaker 2>the dark, and I'm in my gilly suit and he's
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want him to know me. Right,
<v Speaker 2>my car is in the parking lot, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>now we're going to be in the parking lot together.
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't want to be known. I stepped off
<v Speaker 2>the trail one big side step and I went into
<v Speaker 2>a crouch position, and I'm and I'm sitting there and
<v Speaker 2>I'm holding on to my weapon, right and this dude
<v Speaker 2>comes walking down the trail and literally stopped right next
<v Speaker 2>to me, and I'm looking at his foot, his shoe,
<v Speaker 2>his black boot. I could literally reach down and touch
<v Speaker 2>him if I wanted to. And he stopped right there
<v Speaker 2>to light a cigarette and he starts flicking his you
<v Speaker 2>know lighter, and of course it won't light, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting there, going, man, if I stand up,
<v Speaker 2>this guy's going to have a heart attack. He doesn't
<v Speaker 2>even realize that I'm this close to him, and then
<v Speaker 2>he got up, he got his cigarette, let me start moving.
<v Speaker 2>I stood up and literally walked right behind him. I
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, ten yards behind the guy. And
<v Speaker 2>then as he got into the barking lot, I stood
<v Speaker 2>in the shadow, let him get his stuff in the car,
<v Speaker 2>and then I walked out. But that's how I hunt,
<v Speaker 2>That's how good I am in the woods. You know,
<v Speaker 2>there are animals I have befriended. I deer hunt and
<v Speaker 2>my friends would be like, did you see anything? I'm like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I had like six deer in today, Why did you
<v Speaker 2>shoot one? I don't want to. I'm not willing to
<v Speaker 2>shoot anything that it's not on my list to hunt.
<v Speaker 2>And the animals sense that in you. Animals know your
<v Speaker 2>spirit is what I call it. They know you're in pensent.
<v Speaker 2>In these big foots, I think they, you know, they're
<v Speaker 2>highly intelligent. They're they're humanoids, and and they know when
<v Speaker 2>you're in the when you're in there in the woods
<v Speaker 2>and they're there with you, they they know if your
<v Speaker 2>your what your intentions are. They they know whether they
<v Speaker 2>should just stand off and watch and kind of you know,
<v Speaker 2>keep eye on you, or they're if they think they
<v Speaker 2>can move you right, they think you're weakened spirit, then
<v Speaker 2>they'll challenge you to try to get you to move
<v Speaker 2>right back then I would I probably would have not
<v Speaker 2>moved right. They probably would have got a whole bunch
<v Speaker 2>of hurt coming their way, which that they don't need that, right,
<v Speaker 2>because if I would have been, like a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people say, well I got I got it. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I had something to attacked me, and you know I
<v Speaker 2>never went back. If something attacked me, I'm going back
<v Speaker 2>and I'm bringing friends, right and you know I would
<v Speaker 2>have been going full metal jacket back then on them. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, What else have you had happen? What other experiences
<v Speaker 1>have you had? Any other class encounters?
<v Speaker 2>Well, other than on the bigfoot, you know, knowing that
<v Speaker 2>they're out there and stuff that is that's it. The
<v Speaker 2>one sighting would have been the one. You know, I
<v Speaker 2>what I call murder man, you know, and you know
<v Speaker 2>the arms sway. Nothing walks like that in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>Only only something that is comfortable in the woods moves
<v Speaker 2>with that kind of purpose. And it wasn't no no
<v Speaker 2>hiker not coming out of the swamp. So with that
<v Speaker 2>being said that, you know, I've had the howls. I've
<v Speaker 2>had the whoops, I've had the tree knocks, I've had
<v Speaker 2>the uneasiness. I haven't had any you know, confrontation. But
<v Speaker 2>that is, you know, to my to my luck. I'm
<v Speaker 2>glad for that because I understand what these beams are right,
<v Speaker 2>and they they you know, you get on the wrong
<v Speaker 2>side of them, you're going to have a bad day.
<v Speaker 2>And you know they they can be killed. They do
<v Speaker 2>have immortality to them, but you're not. They're not. You're
<v Speaker 2>not alone in the woods. If you see one, you're
<v Speaker 2>seeing more than one. And you better keep your eye
<v Speaker 2>eye ice field. And you know, I don't think they
<v Speaker 2>you know, they really don't want to bother with anyone
<v Speaker 2>because they've been around since the beginning of time and
<v Speaker 2>they've been hunted since the beginning of time because man
<v Speaker 2>came after all the what the so called demi gods,
<v Speaker 2>the gods, Man and the gods have always worn. And
<v Speaker 2>these are creatures from demi gods what we would call
<v Speaker 2>the Hindus call them avatars, you know, the Egyptians demi gods.
<v Speaker 2>These are crossbreeds of some really bad people, bad bad
<v Speaker 2>beings and the orbs that you see now, I've seen
<v Speaker 2>those orbs, right, I've seen the lights in the world.
<v Speaker 2>If these creatures come from what we would call gods
<v Speaker 2>or aliens or technology, then these orbs are there for
<v Speaker 2>their protection. Right. You don't send your kid out into
<v Speaker 2>the world without a cell phone to watch after am,
<v Speaker 2>you know, to make sure he's watched over. So I
<v Speaker 2>believe that these bigfoots are you know, creatures there. They've
<v Speaker 2>been around for a long long time, and they are,
<v Speaker 2>you know, being watched over by what you would call
<v Speaker 2>their parents. And if their parents are supernatural beings, then
<v Speaker 2>it's very easy for them to be watched over what
<v Speaker 2>we would call technology, right, because these things they know,
<v Speaker 2>they know they're at risk. They know that mankind is not,
<v Speaker 2>you know, not so nice man. It's not even nice
<v Speaker 2>to each other, let alone something that they can't wrap
<v Speaker 2>their mind around, especially something that's you know, like a bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, absolutely. And some time ago you sent a
<v Speaker 1>photo a drawling and painting that Michaelangelo made. Can you
<v Speaker 1>describe that a little bit more?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the last judgment Michaelangelo, the famous guy, right
<v Speaker 2>who had all this knowledge, He writes, he makes the painting.
<v Speaker 2>It's at the Sistine Chapel, for everybody to see. And
<v Speaker 2>this is why they hide history from us. They don't
<v Speaker 2>want you to understand where in what you come from,
<v Speaker 2>because if you understood history, you'll know that you can
<v Speaker 2>lie to through all of humanity. Anyways, in this picture,
<v Speaker 2>there's a cave at the bottom of this picture, and
<v Speaker 2>there are two creatures in that cave. And if you
<v Speaker 2>look at those creatures up close, and there are videos
<v Speaker 2>and you know, photos of it showing them, they are
<v Speaker 2>what you would call harry mun satsquatch, bigfoot, wild people.
<v Speaker 2>There's two of them in there. And if there's two,
<v Speaker 2>that means man and woman. That means they're breeding. That
<v Speaker 2>means they're living beings. Right. The symbolism and stuff, and
<v Speaker 2>that painting and all these old religious paintings, you can
<v Speaker 2>go back to paintings and you'll see things in them.
<v Speaker 2>The great ancient temples the Hindus, for God's sake, the
<v Speaker 2>Hindus have so much record keeping. And the people in
<v Speaker 2>Thailand and all these temples, they show you these creatures
<v Speaker 2>on their temple walls, and they're telling you that they
<v Speaker 2>worship the these beings, that these beings were here, they
<v Speaker 2>worshiped them, They were in communion with them, they worked
<v Speaker 2>with them, and the Hindws. Of course, I sent you
<v Speaker 2>that link to the Indian god, right, which you know
<v Speaker 2>from Lord Chiba human and who man was that monkey man?
<v Speaker 2>He was a humanoid monkey man and in the first
<v Speaker 2>Earth Age he was thirty foot tall, and he had
<v Speaker 2>his own kingdom of monkey men, and they communicated and
<v Speaker 2>dwelt with these demi gods in whatever kind of mankind
<v Speaker 2>was here back in the day. This is all out
<v Speaker 2>there in the public. You can look at Handu, the
<v Speaker 2>Indian god, and see that this dude his genetics. He's
<v Speaker 2>blue eyed, right, he's got blue skin sometimes, which a
<v Speaker 2>lot of these people that see bigfoots telling me I
<v Speaker 2>saw a blue eyed rue kind of had a blue tin.
<v Speaker 2>So the mixture of the DNA over eons, of course,
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be different kinds, just like there's different
<v Speaker 2>kinds of humans. But they're real and they're not as
<v Speaker 2>big as they used to be. Nothing is as big
<v Speaker 2>as it used to be, because if you look back
<v Speaker 2>in history, if you even read the Bible, there were
<v Speaker 2>giants in the Bible, they were average of thirteen to
<v Speaker 2>twenty foot men men are mighty old. But before the flood.
<v Speaker 2>Those same beings were thirty forty feet tall. Right, they
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have problem hanging out with dinosaurs, They wouldn't have
<v Speaker 2>a problem hanging out with any kind of creature on
<v Speaker 2>this planet because they would have been a dominant species.
<v Speaker 2>And there were cities of these people. There were temples
<v Speaker 2>dedicated to these creatures. So I believe Bigfoot is the
<v Speaker 2>descendants of what we call the fallen angels, the beings
<v Speaker 2>aliens from outer space that created demi gods. They they
<v Speaker 2>made it with human women created demi gods, and then
<v Speaker 2>there were children created on and on and on, and
<v Speaker 2>you have all these schisms out there, right, I mean
<v Speaker 2>the dog man. Everybody tells you saw a dog man,
<v Speaker 2>and then you show them that the picture of Nubius
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, yeah, that's what I saw. Nubius an
<v Speaker 2>Egyptian god. He's a dumbi god. But then you go
<v Speaker 2>back into history, and you go back into legends, and
<v Speaker 2>you find out about the hounds of Hell, and you
<v Speaker 2>find out all these other creatures. The wind goes the things.
<v Speaker 2>From that, you know that the Indians tell you so
<v Speaker 2>many things. You study the ancient Asians, they'll tell you
<v Speaker 2>about these creatures. They're talked about everywhere, So you know
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot thing. I am going to go. It's summertime
<v Speaker 2>in Michigan right now, so I'm going to go up north.
<v Speaker 2>I already made some calls and I'm going to go
<v Speaker 2>to the Huron National Force and I'm going to go
<v Speaker 2>hit the primeval up there, my old stomping grounds where
<v Speaker 2>a lot of this stuff happening and where a lot
<v Speaker 2>of your people have said they saw stuff. And the
<v Speaker 2>funny thing is, I went up there last year to
<v Speaker 2>visit a France and I went to what is called
<v Speaker 2>Wilbur Road in the Huron National Force southside Ascota, and
<v Speaker 2>they've shut down part of Wilbur Road, the FEDS, and
<v Speaker 2>they shut it down and they blocked the road. And
<v Speaker 2>they've been doing this here in Michigan more and more.
<v Speaker 2>They're starting to seize the land and the land that
<v Speaker 2>they're seizing. If you look at a map of Michigan
<v Speaker 2>all the way from Ascota from the east coast to
<v Speaker 2>the west coast to western Michigan to the Manistee Force
<v Speaker 2>through through gay Lord in Grayling, which is the army
<v Speaker 2>base that just grabbed a whole bunch of land they've
<v Speaker 2>made a corridor for these creatures. They know that they're
<v Speaker 2>out there. We are accelerating in time as the world
<v Speaker 2>can see it going, and these things are starting to multiply.
<v Speaker 2>You're going to see more and more of them. They're
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they are afraid of man because man
<v Speaker 2>has the ability to destroy them. But you get out
<v Speaker 2>on their terms and you're you're in a bad way.
<v Speaker 2>If they want to come get you, You're you're not
<v Speaker 2>going to have a good day, which a lot of
<v Speaker 2>your viewers, unfortunately, have been in a bad way with.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, it does seem like these creatures have been
<v Speaker 1>mentioned throughout history and it kind of they kind of
<v Speaker 1>hide it. I don't know if they've hiding it ever
<v Speaker 1>since man kind started on this planet, but I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I've seen paintings where you can see like a UFO
<v Speaker 1>behind Mary, and like you said, in the Michelangelo painting,
<v Speaker 1>you can see that, you can. Yeah, so I guess
<v Speaker 1>this has been happening since the beginning, like hiding the
<v Speaker 1>truth or whatever is going on.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, that's the thing with people. They want
<v Speaker 2>to try to rationalize it into what they know now.
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is it's always been, and if you
<v Speaker 2>put it into the whole realm of good and evil,
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual beings, the Creator, God, Yah, Wait, Jehovah, whatever
<v Speaker 2>you want to call them, you know, shout, shout, hugin,
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is in Chinese. You know, even the
<v Speaker 2>Chinese symbolism, every Chinese character shows you that it relates
<v Speaker 2>to this other world, into these other beings. There was
<v Speaker 2>a creator, and there's a bad guy, and the bad
<v Speaker 2>guy's got his team. The creator has his team, and
<v Speaker 2>the bad guy's been thrown down here, and the bad
<v Speaker 2>guy did bad things to what the creator did down here,
<v Speaker 2>and everything's been mixed up. And as you see in
<v Speaker 2>this world, everything is very wicked, very mixed up. And
<v Speaker 2>as it gets more and more wicked and more and
<v Speaker 2>more mixed up, you're seeing the escalation of more sightings. Right,
<v Speaker 2>because these things are now being able to be given
<v Speaker 2>the freedom to move about more. Right, they're going to
<v Speaker 2>be able to show themselves. And the people that are
<v Speaker 2>in power know about them. The governments of the world
<v Speaker 2>and the military, they know about these creatures, and they're
<v Speaker 2>making as much room as they can for them, especially
<v Speaker 2>here in Michigan. They've locked down a lot of the
<v Speaker 2>National Forest.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like no matter what culture legend you
<v Speaker 1>go back to, it's always a battle between good and evil.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean it's been happening for a long time.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so simple. And you look at none new
<v Speaker 2>the Hindu ape God, it's right there. It shows you
<v Speaker 2>how these creatures sat squatched, harry men, whatever you want.
<v Speaker 2>It shows you that how they were, how they were
<v Speaker 2>made in this legend and on how there were really
<v Speaker 2>a kingdom of them, and that you know, there's good
<v Speaker 2>ones and bad ones, because everything is good or bad.
<v Speaker 2>It can have it. It can be the middle of
<v Speaker 2>the road, right, you have some of these people like
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was super astonished to hear the one
<v Speaker 2>guy who was, you know, football player, and he's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we went camping and I was wrestling with one that
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can see that happening, right. But then again,
<v Speaker 2>he was terrified too because he knew at any moment
<v Speaker 2>this thing could turn on him and RiPP him the shreds. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>what are we You know, what are you dealing with
<v Speaker 2>out there? You better you better keep your wits when
<v Speaker 2>you're in the woods. That's all I tell people, And
<v Speaker 2>I tell people all the time. Look up you you
<v Speaker 2>walk these weds and you're dragging your your your butt
<v Speaker 2>behind you, and you're carrying a weapon, and you're walking
<v Speaker 2>looking down and you're not paying attention. You know, before
<v Speaker 2>I ever go in the woods, I just sit there
<v Speaker 2>and I get that that whole feeling first before I
<v Speaker 2>even venture out, because I've had too many bad things
<v Speaker 2>happened to me out there that are unexplainable. And I
<v Speaker 2>can tell you about those two if you want to know.
<v Speaker 2>I've had times with mak Man. I've had teggative issues.
<v Speaker 2>I've had time slips. You know, I've seen the gauntlet
<v Speaker 2>of stuff out there.
<v Speaker 1>Let's go into your moth Man encounter and then the
<v Speaker 1>time slip.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Mothman happened Opening day two thousand and eight
<v Speaker 2>deer season, gun season again, going out the Highland State
<v Speaker 2>Recreation Area with a friend of mine. And we'll call
<v Speaker 2>him Bob, because I don't know if he wants his
<v Speaker 2>name news. So me and Bob are good friends. We
<v Speaker 2>hunt and I go full pack even though it's a
<v Speaker 2>state land, of course, and we're going to spend the
<v Speaker 2>whole day out there. And Bob took the front part
<v Speaker 2>of the section of Highland State Recreation which was up
<v Speaker 2>by the houses, it's hardwoods, and then in between those
<v Speaker 2>in between is a set of like pine trees. And
<v Speaker 2>in Michigan, they've planted the forest so the pine trees
<v Speaker 2>are in nice grows and these are big, tall, white
<v Speaker 2>pines and they're you know, they grow super tall, and
<v Speaker 2>they're very you know, the tree branches are up high,
<v Speaker 2>and it's a nice area, you know. And then beyond
<v Speaker 2>that goes again the hardwoods and down the trail and
<v Speaker 2>into stuff. So two thousand and eight opening day, I
<v Speaker 2>tell my buddy Bob, I'm going to go move to
<v Speaker 2>the far end of the hardwoods and start there, and
<v Speaker 2>as the day goes, I'm going to move into these
<v Speaker 2>pines and close in on you, and I'll be probably
<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards from you by the you know, by
<v Speaker 2>the end of the evening, which would be around you know,
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock four thirty, because it starts to get dirt again.
<v Speaker 2>People know me, No, I wear a gilly suit. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to wear orange in Michigan, but I kind
<v Speaker 2>of conceal myself because I don't want anybody putting a
<v Speaker 2>scope on me and looking at me walking with my orange.
<v Speaker 2>If I'm walking a trail or something, yeah, I'll soul myself.
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm moving in a hunt position, I I really,
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're not going to see me. So over
<v Speaker 2>that day, i had moved into the pines and I'm
<v Speaker 2>in an open area. I got my back against the
<v Speaker 2>pine tree. My backpack's there, I got my shotgune, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I got deer crossing, I got doze coming in. Squirrels
<v Speaker 2>are running around, and it's it's been a nice day
<v Speaker 2>and it's getting late and the sun's going to get
<v Speaker 2>going down. And I got all this gear, so I'm like, man,
<v Speaker 2>I better start packing up. So I turn around and
<v Speaker 2>my backpacks against the tree and the shotguns leaning against
<v Speaker 2>this tree I'm sitting up against and I'm you know,
<v Speaker 2>folding up my gillies soup, getting out my orange, getting
<v Speaker 2>everything set. And I heard something rustle and it caught
<v Speaker 2>my time. And now I'm facing north and this would
<v Speaker 2>be to my west, over my left shoulder, and I
<v Speaker 2>hear it's something rustle and it's up in a tree
<v Speaker 2>in the trees, probably about fifty sixty yards away from me,
<v Speaker 2>and it's a big, you know, a couple of big
<v Speaker 2>pine trees and I'm looking and there's something black shuffling
<v Speaker 2>around in this tree and I'm looking at it, like
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm still on my knees, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>what is that a turkey? That a turkey fly up there,
<v Speaker 2>because it's like one hundred feet up in the air.
<v Speaker 2>The next thing I know, Miguel, it stood up. It
<v Speaker 2>stood up. Things do not stand up in trees. When
<v Speaker 2>this thing stood up, it was jet black. It stood
<v Speaker 2>up like a man, and it was smooth. It had
<v Speaker 2>so my angle looking at it because now I'm looking
<v Speaker 2>at it at a forty five from my you know,
<v Speaker 2>over my left hand shoulder. I had turned out to
<v Speaker 2>face it, so I'm behind it looking at it. It
<v Speaker 2>had a shoulders like a gargoyle. And I'm looking at
<v Speaker 2>this thing and I'm trying to make sense of what
<v Speaker 2>am I looking at. Birds do not stand up in trees.
<v Speaker 2>Things are not that big. What is this gargoyle thing?
<v Speaker 2>So immediately I going to grab the shotgun. Now I'm
<v Speaker 2>on one knee and I pop scope on it and
<v Speaker 2>I start to look through it through the scope and
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at it and it's got a head and
<v Speaker 2>you can see, like a leather conteroor face. And it
<v Speaker 2>was completely smooth, like a statue holding still, and those
<v Speaker 2>big they had a big gargoyle shoulder that you know.
<v Speaker 2>That's all I remember was that big shoulder. And I
<v Speaker 2>lowered my shotgun to go, what the heck is that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, to take my eye out of the scope
<v Speaker 2>and readjust And when I did that, the thing opened up.
<v Speaker 2>And it opened up and had a twenty foot wingspan
<v Speaker 2>and there were no feathers. This thing was smooth like
<v Speaker 2>a bat, like a serpent. I don't know what it was.
<v Speaker 2>It did two big loud in front of it, pushing
<v Speaker 2>of its wings together, and it broke the air. It
<v Speaker 2>was loud. It was like roosh roosh. And after that,
<v Speaker 2>now I'm watching, I'm stunned, right, I'm like, holy crap.
<v Speaker 2>And after it did that, it just dropped out of
<v Speaker 2>the tree and soared away. It didn't fly. It never
<v Speaker 2>ever ever flapped its flapped its wings. And it soared
<v Speaker 2>away and it soared away and probably you know, good
<v Speaker 2>forty miles an hour. I mean, it was new. They
<v Speaker 2>had no no need to fly, like to flap its wings.
<v Speaker 2>This thing just took off like like it was gliding,
<v Speaker 2>and I pulled out my pistol, cocked my pistol, got
<v Speaker 2>my shotgun, backed myself up against that tree, holding both
<v Speaker 2>of them, looking up, going what is this? Because now
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, if it saw me and it wants to
<v Speaker 2>come back, this thing can take me. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what it was. So I sat there for like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it seems like forever. But after it cleared, I you know,
<v Speaker 2>packed up my weapons. Well, I packed up my pistol,
<v Speaker 2>and I grabbed shotgun, and I grabbed my backpack and
<v Speaker 2>I took off to the trail, which was only you know,
<v Speaker 2>fifty sixty years out, got on the main trail, start
<v Speaker 2>running down and I ran into my buddy Bob because
<v Speaker 2>he was already you know, coming to get me because
<v Speaker 2>he was done for the day. And you know, I
<v Speaker 2>started telling him, of course, what I saw. And of course,
<v Speaker 2>you know, no one ever believes you, right, especially your friends.
<v Speaker 2>Your friends are always going to be the ones they
<v Speaker 2>never believe you. So I, you know, I then I
<v Speaker 2>started looking up you know, the things on the internet
<v Speaker 2>back in two thousand and eight about mothmn right, and actually,
<v Speaker 2>if you do the history the research on it, you
<v Speaker 2>will find that there were people that had seen a
<v Speaker 2>large black winged bird of some sort they claimed, or
<v Speaker 2>some kind of creature they claimed in Michigan during that time,
<v Speaker 2>and there was a sightings in Ohio and in Pennsylvania.
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, but I'll tell you this. It
<v Speaker 2>was not of this world. It was not a bird.
<v Speaker 2>It was it was I you know what. I would
<v Speaker 2>not look at it as I would call it a
<v Speaker 2>dark angel, like a black angel, literally, And it was
<v Speaker 2>smooth and it was powerful. When it opened up its wings,
<v Speaker 2>they that thing just boom and it was like you
<v Speaker 2>were watching a Marvel movie and that thing west this
<v Speaker 2>wins together twice and the sound of it was like
<v Speaker 2>crazy and then it just dlopped out the sort of way.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm a I'm a turkey hunter, I'm a goose hunter.
<v Speaker 2>I'm a dug hunter. I know big birds, I know
<v Speaker 2>how things fly. And this thing, this thing sword. So
<v Speaker 2>h yeah. So you know, look up when you're in
<v Speaker 2>the wits, look up, keep your keep your wits about you.
<v Speaker 2>Don't be in a hurry when you're out there. Take
<v Speaker 2>your time to really understand what you're what you're getting into,
<v Speaker 2>because they're watching it, they're out there. You'll never you know,
<v Speaker 2>if if that thing didn't make noise and I wasn't
<v Speaker 2>so stealthy and behind, did you know, I you know,
<v Speaker 2>I would never saw it if I was just you know,
<v Speaker 2>messing around, because once it took off flying, it never
<v Speaker 2>made any noise flying. And if you ever goose hunt
<v Speaker 2>or a big bird hunt, they make a lot of
<v Speaker 2>noise when they're flapping. Yeah. No, this thing was. This
<v Speaker 2>thing was six seven feet tall and twenty foot wing span,
<v Speaker 2>and it was shimanoid. It was shiming oid. You didn't
<v Speaker 2>have any long tail on it. It was smooth, it
<v Speaker 2>was black as coal, and it's so word Yeah. So
<v Speaker 2>that's that's one of the one things that I can't
<v Speaker 2>explain that I saw that. You know, we can call
<v Speaker 2>it the moth man, because you know, just like the bigfoots,
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna call these sad squats a good foot. There's
<v Speaker 2>nothing else you can can label it as. But I
<v Speaker 2>knew that if it had seen me, I do that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not a good day. And everybody, of
<v Speaker 2>course goes, well, why didn't you shoot it? Well, I
<v Speaker 2>popped scope on it, and I was looking at it,
<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to make that determination, because again,
<v Speaker 2>I'm that kind of person. I'm gonna look at at
<v Speaker 2>something and if it's a threat, I might let one go, right,
<v Speaker 2>But you have to identify what you're what you're gonna,
<v Speaker 2>you know, be putting around at and uh yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you keep your wits about you out there. There are
<v Speaker 2>things make you disappear. So let's move on to the
<v Speaker 2>time slip. We're gonna move back up to here on
<v Speaker 2>National Force. I'm hunting the horse farm off of Wells Road.
<v Speaker 2>For those who know you're on National Force, OSA, go
<v Speaker 2>go to Michigan. It's a turkey season. It was probably
<v Speaker 2>the late nineties early early two thousands, and I would
<v Speaker 2>go up there on a turkey hunt. And this time
<v Speaker 2>I had gone up there by myself, and I hung
<v Speaker 2>along this horse firm off Wells Road because turkeys love
<v Speaker 2>the horse farm. There's lots of food for them in
<v Speaker 2>the spring there. And again I'm sitting there in my
<v Speaker 2>spot and I'm calling in a bird and that turkey's moving,
<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately I had what we call in Michigan a yahoo.
<v Speaker 2>Some guy tried to come up on the other side
<v Speaker 2>of the horse farm and he basically was calling back
<v Speaker 2>to me as I'm calling, right, he's answering a hand
<v Speaker 2>call with ND call. What a yahoo? Anyways, so he's
<v Speaker 2>scared off this time, and you know, ruined my hunt.
<v Speaker 2>And I had to yell at the guy and tell
<v Speaker 2>him to back out. Blah blah blah. So my day's done.
<v Speaker 2>It's about ten thirty now, it's beautiful Saturday, sun's out.
<v Speaker 2>I never really walked any of the trails in this area,
<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, well, I'm going to walk the trail here.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm walking the trail, you know, I got my
<v Speaker 2>gun on me, I got everything, and I'm coming through
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of woods and it opens up into
<v Speaker 2>this big field. And again, like I tell people, I'm
<v Speaker 2>a seer, and again I'll tell people, I have beings
<v Speaker 2>around me that I call watchers. I've always called them watchers.
<v Speaker 2>And there are four of them. Three of them are
<v Speaker 2>really nice. One of them is a really bad dude.
<v Speaker 2>You've got to keep that dude away from you. But
<v Speaker 2>they told me to stop. And I came to this
<v Speaker 2>opening of this field and it's a beautiful sunny day,
<v Speaker 2>and I got so uneasy because they were like stop,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, something's not right. And they're like, no,
<v Speaker 2>You're going to walk into a time slip. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>like what. I'm sitting there and I'm looking and everything
<v Speaker 2>is quiet, dead quiet, and it's weird because it's a
<v Speaker 2>beautiful sunny day and I'm sitting there trying to, you know,
<v Speaker 2>get my thoughts together, like Okay, what am I staring
<v Speaker 2>at here? They flipped the switch on me and that
<v Speaker 2>field turned into a field of like blood. There was
<v Speaker 2>blood on all the grass, everything. And my watchers explained
<v Speaker 2>to me that this is a time slip. You would
<v Speaker 2>have walked into a time there was a battle or
<v Speaker 2>something that happened there, and you would have walked into
<v Speaker 2>this time slip that was a great chaos and you
<v Speaker 2>would have disappeared. And you know, I've had these things
<v Speaker 2>happen in my life being a seer and being called
<v Speaker 2>upon to you know, I've gone to people's houses and
<v Speaker 2>helped them get out their ghosts or whatever haunting them,
<v Speaker 2>and things like that. I've seen. I see the dead. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you things that will blow your mind.
<v Speaker 2>I have this knowledge that was given to me since
<v Speaker 2>I was little. I can see death in people. I
<v Speaker 2>can see dead people. I can tell you things. I
<v Speaker 2>have this weirdness about me, and you know, I can't
<v Speaker 2>explain it to people because it's so deep. Right, I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure it's a lot to you. But there are poorholes,
<v Speaker 2>there are time slips, and you can just disappear. What
<v Speaker 2>the physical is is not true. The physical is this
<v Speaker 2>one one realm that's connected to all these other things.
<v Speaker 2>And the Bigfoot's coming and going. Yeah, reah, we can
<v Speaker 2>come and go because they have the knowledge from back when.
<v Speaker 2>And if you look into again, we go back to
<v Speaker 2>the Hindus and the story of the eight Prince Hannah,
<v Speaker 2>it tells you his five traits are for him to
<v Speaker 2>get bigger or smaller, to shift change, or to travel
<v Speaker 2>where he wishes to go. Interesting. So, yeah, I've had
<v Speaker 2>a lot of weird things I've seen, you know, I've
<v Speaker 2>had predator issues. I've been in the woods and the
<v Speaker 2>bushes are moving and something's moving through them and there's
<v Speaker 2>nothing there. You see, you see the the what I
<v Speaker 2>would call the air. You see that there's a disfiguration
<v Speaker 2>of something and it's and it's like a ghost and
<v Speaker 2>it's moving through the woods and and it's it's it's
<v Speaker 2>moving branches, it's you can see the oblikness of it,
<v Speaker 2>and that one scares me. When when you have those encounters,
<v Speaker 2>you you really gotta be careful because that's that is
<v Speaker 2>something that you know you're dealing with on a very
<v Speaker 2>supernatural level with When you can actually see a physical
<v Speaker 2>being like a bigfoot, I can, I can generate that.
<v Speaker 2>But when you're in around things and spiritual things and
<v Speaker 2>moving around you, uh, invisible things, which you're actually catching
<v Speaker 2>those glimpses of them, that that's that's where you really
<v Speaker 2>you better you better mind yourself.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I appreciate you for sharing that
<v Speaker 1>with me. And there's been many legends about the Mothman
<v Speaker 1>and time slips where people are walking in the forest
<v Speaker 1>and they just disappear and end up somewhere else and
<v Speaker 1>there's missing time involved. So it's a very strange thing.
<v Speaker 1>Even in Chicago at the airport there were Mothman legends.
<v Speaker 1>People we're seeing Mothman, So it's pretty strange. And I've
<v Speaker 1>had reports about this before in the past where people
<v Speaker 1>see this jeepers creepers figure with wings and it's frightening.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, I didn't see its face, so there,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't tell you the red eyes or
<v Speaker 2>anything like this. But it was a human head. It was.
<v Speaker 2>It had a very contourudeness to it. You could see
<v Speaker 2>the shadow, the leatherness in it. And I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what the people tell you about their moth man, but
<v Speaker 2>this one was smooth. There was you know, I was
<v Speaker 2>looking for feathers. I'm looking for anything to identify it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe a giant condoor kind of got loose, right,
<v Speaker 2>maybe it got blown off course, there was no feathers.
<v Speaker 2>It was smooth. It had like a terodactyl type smoothness
<v Speaker 2>to it, like you would see a dinosaur. Right. And
<v Speaker 2>when it flew, it flew like a pterodactyl does in
<v Speaker 2>the movies. Right. It just so it wasn't flapping, it's
<v Speaker 2>just doing it. Sorry, Now, people told you what I mean,
<v Speaker 2>what did they see when they see this small fan?
<v Speaker 2>Did they describe it's smooth? Did he describe like feathers
<v Speaker 2>on it or anything?
<v Speaker 1>Some reports it was smooth and others it had feathers.
<v Speaker 1>So it seems like there's different types of these beings, ensities, creatures,
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call them. I mean, I think
<v Speaker 1>it's all the above.
<v Speaker 2>Really, I mean, I came home and I drew a
<v Speaker 2>drew it out on a piece of paper and wrote
<v Speaker 2>down what I wrote. And I've always had it here,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'll share it with people, and you
<v Speaker 2>know they huff and puff. But the thing I remember
<v Speaker 2>about it is it had huge gargoyle shoulders, it was,
<v Speaker 2>and that to me, well again, when it opened up
<v Speaker 2>its wings, it showed how much strength and power was
<v Speaker 2>in that that animal, right, and the creature, the being,
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it. And uh, yeah, that
<v Speaker 2>one really because you know, a bigfoot I'm good with
<v Speaker 2>because I know they exist. Right. Legend tells us, well,
<v Speaker 2>when you're seeing something that's kind of like a black angel,
<v Speaker 2>you know, humanoid, yeah, that makes you a little bit
<v Speaker 2>more uneasy because then you're like, wow, this could be
<v Speaker 2>a really, really bad guy. And you know, you don't
<v Speaker 2>know how strong you are against such things. And that's physically,
<v Speaker 2>you have no no strength. But I'm talking on the
<v Speaker 2>spiritual side, right, And you look back on the Indians
<v Speaker 2>and all them, you know, all the Shamans, all these
<v Speaker 2>people at Shamans, and you know they ask for protection
<v Speaker 2>when they go out in the woods, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>they lived in harmony with these creeps. You know, you
<v Speaker 2>can live in harmony with a big foot, but you
<v Speaker 2>know you're you're dealing with something that you shouldn't be
<v Speaker 2>dealing with, you, right, you should just leave them alone.
<v Speaker 2>And you know here, I you know, I heard the
<v Speaker 2>story about the people, the two ladies that were gifting
<v Speaker 2>the one I think that she was in Michigan and
<v Speaker 2>she and her and a mom were gifting a big foot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, North Carolina.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, North Carolina. Right, and then you know kind of
<v Speaker 2>got weird and kind of got bad. Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you there's things You've got to be careful what you're
<v Speaker 2>looking to play with out there, right, you know, it's uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I know they're out there. I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>go look for for them. Now. I'm going to go
<v Speaker 2>back to that Turkey area and go look at that
<v Speaker 2>that Christmas tree and go check it out in the fall,
<v Speaker 2>because there's no way go in the woods in Michigan
<v Speaker 2>in the summer. The mosquitoes will carry you away and
<v Speaker 2>the ticks are terrible. And then I'm going to plan
<v Speaker 2>an expedition up to the you're on National Force, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go check out where they locked down
<v Speaker 2>Rover Road and I'm gonna go do some documentary stuff
<v Speaker 2>and you're more welcome to ever if you ever want
<v Speaker 2>to come to Michigan, because I know it's a hot
<v Speaker 2>lot here. You know, we can definitely make some expeditions
<v Speaker 2>out go look at these areas. Because on your channel,
<v Speaker 2>the people that are traveling telling from Michigan, every one
<v Speaker 2>of them where they tell they don't even say where
<v Speaker 2>they're at. I already know their area because it's by description.
<v Speaker 2>I know that spot. And it's funny because I looked
<v Speaker 2>out the maps. You know, I got a map of Michigan,
<v Speaker 2>and I've been pitpointing, Okay, this person's over here, this
<v Speaker 2>person's over here, and it's making a corridor, especially up north.
<v Speaker 2>They got a cord and the government set this up.
<v Speaker 2>So I think they're going to increase. I think you're
<v Speaker 2>going to see more of this because what mankind has
<v Speaker 2>in store for us with what they're trying to do
<v Speaker 2>to us in the world. And I'm talking our leadership
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to get political, but one World
<v Speaker 2>Order is coming. They want to pull the plug on
<v Speaker 2>mankind and so they've been slowly feeding us UFO stuff.
<v Speaker 2>You know, this has been cited this has been cited
<v Speaker 2>a spacemen in my backyard in Nevada, right, And you know,
<v Speaker 2>and you know they put little things out there in Hollywood.
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood shows you everything because they know the people that
<v Speaker 2>control this world. They know, and they're showing you these
<v Speaker 2>things to desensitize you so that when these beings show
<v Speaker 2>themselves as leaders of humanity, we're going to be like
<v Speaker 2>back in the old days, where we're going to make
<v Speaker 2>gods of these creatures and try to like, oh, they're
<v Speaker 2>superior to us, we should worship them. And that's what
<v Speaker 2>they want. They want you to fall away and these
<v Speaker 2>things they can't, they can't hold them back. More and more,
<v Speaker 2>the big flips are being seen. More and more things
<v Speaker 2>are out there because humanity is growing at it rate
<v Speaker 2>now again like it was in the first Earth Age,
<v Speaker 2>and you're not going to hide much longer. They can't.
<v Speaker 2>They can't hide it. They want to tell you you're crazy.
<v Speaker 2>They want to tell you you saw a bear. You
<v Speaker 2>know it's not you know, it's your imagination, and then
<v Speaker 2>you know and then they move on. I mean, look
<v Speaker 2>at the Paterson film. The Patterson film is so obvious
<v Speaker 2>and they still try to debunk it. I mean, that's
<v Speaker 2>a nine foot creature. Who that's a female. Clearly, you
<v Speaker 2>can see that's a female. Clearly. You can see the
<v Speaker 2>that it walks away in the woods with no problem.
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I saw. That's how murdered man walked.
<v Speaker 2>When I first saw that black Black one back in
<v Speaker 2>the in the early the late eighties, in the early nineties,
<v Speaker 2>and when I was out Island Lake, it walked like that.
<v Speaker 2>It had that stride, it had no worries. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>if you watched the Patterson film, she's looking back at
<v Speaker 2>you like, I ain't got no problem with you. I'm
<v Speaker 2>just gonna walk away. And you know, if they would
<v Speaker 2>have probably fired or shot or tried to do something
<v Speaker 2>that was stupid, you would've never got that Patterson film
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you know that she's shed clan with
<v Speaker 2>her and that beast. I mean, they're big, big creatures.
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to stay on a chance.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, all right, Nikki. Well, I appreciate you for
<v Speaker 1>sharing your encounters and experiences with me and your theories
<v Speaker 1>regarding the subject. It really means a lot that you
<v Speaker 1>got in contact with me, and I'm glad I was
<v Speaker 1>able to have you on the show. Yep, thank you, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>thank you sir, and you take care, good luck out
<v Speaker 1>there in the forest. All right, Nikki, thank you very
<v Speaker 1>much for sharing your en crypted encounters here on sasquatch theory.
<v Speaker 1>And I am sure that was a terrifying experience to
<v Speaker 1>see that creature that you referred to as murderman walk
<v Speaker 1>out of the forest. And that's a good description of
<v Speaker 1>the creature because they are jet black, very dark, and
<v Speaker 1>they come in very many different colors, but black seems
<v Speaker 1>to be the most typical for these cryptid creatures. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I would have done if I
<v Speaker 1>would have been deep into the forest and seen one
<v Speaker 1>of these creatures, and I don't know. I think I
<v Speaker 1>would just get out of there. What would you guys do?
<v Speaker 1>Let me know down in the comments. Would you stay
<v Speaker 1>in the area to see what else happens or would
<v Speaker 1>you leave immediately? And the fact that you encountered a
<v Speaker 1>moth man that would be terrifying, And who knows if
<v Speaker 1>it was truly a mothman. I've taken reports in the
<v Speaker 1>past where people have seen a wing creature that look
<v Speaker 1>like jeepers creepers, So that tells me there's all kinds
<v Speaker 1>of things going on, and it certainly does sound like
<v Speaker 1>there's a human hybrid program going on, and maybe it
<v Speaker 1>is connected with the aliens and the UFOs. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everyone for listening today, and if you guys can,
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<v Speaker 1>if you have a BIGFOIT encounter you would like to
<v Speaker 1>share with me, please get in touch at Sasquatch Theory
<v Speaker 1>at outlook dot com. Thank you everyone, and be safe
<v Speaker 1>out in the forest.