Hour 3: Chicago Bears To Indiana Connection?

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Speaker 3: Hey, I made some Lamb Lamb lowing chops yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crushed it, bro.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say I did a pretty pretty amazing job of making them.

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Speaker 1: What was the inspiration for the lamb? Uh? That's what came We ordered up.

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Speaker 3: We actually ordered some porter houses, but that's what ended up showing up I guess that's what was in stock where we got it from. I mean, so we just went ahead and went with it. I said, hey, let me, I've never tried it before, had a little different taste, has a different taste than regular like steak, but has the same type of look to it, just smaller.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think I've ever cooked lamb.

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Speaker 2: I don't even ever think I've even thought about taking a taking a peek at that, or even giving it a given it an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Probably wouldn't happen if it didn't happen the way that it did. I made some oxtails the other day too. Oh yeah, oh bro.

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Speaker 2: Because listen, Saint Patty's days coming up around the corner, and we talked about this, a difference between cottage pie and Shepherd's pie. You know, Shepherd's pie is I think as lamb in it. Cottage pie has got the beef. I'm more of a cottage pie guy. I've heard two different versions of that. So for those of them that want to argue it, but.

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Speaker 3: Uh, shepherds are really good, really good shepherd pie really get.

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Speaker 1: The job done, really good. Yeah, you can.

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Speaker 3: Feel really good about it, and it tastes better the older it gets. So you could run it all the way to the end, like right before it gets to that point of where you got to throw it out like that last day before expiration, that it's still gonna tast it's gonna taste its best because it had that that opportunity to like just marinate and marinate and marinate, and then you're reheating it. And I don't know something about it, man, Certain foods is just something about it. They taste better the next day. Yeah, like gumbo tastes better. Chick can eat. Chicken parm up tastes fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't taste better than that's that's great. Chicken parm beats up great. I wouldn't recommend. Maybe like Chinese food doesn't. It doesn't seem to Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's strange.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't taste Yeah, like fried rice, it doesn't taste well.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it does.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Actually, Benny Hanna's tastes good the next day. Benny Hannas stays good the next day. I got I gotta say that. Okay, anyway, enough about food.

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Speaker 2: So we opened up the show. We were talking about the off season speculation that Max Crosby sit down with Caleb Williams in which he gave him all sorts of compliments and they were really, uh, really complimentary of each other. If that was sort of a an opportunity for them to try and speak into existence the potential of Max Crosby joining the Bears. If if this was sort of laying the groundwork in the foundation for Max Crosby joining the Chicago Bears, or at least create the conversation. And there's been some there's been some reports out there. I think it was Adam Schefter who reported that the Raiders would seek two first round picks and a position player for Max Crosby, similar to Michael Parsons. The problem is, you know, Micah Parsons is a better pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: MICHAEH.

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Speaker 2: Parsons is also younger. Max Crosby is twenty nine, He's coming off the injury. And I love Max Crosby. And the thing about Max Crosby is the numbers may not be the equivalent to a Micah Parson, Toamara Miles Garrett, but Max Crosby, the effort he gives you, he's a game wrecker, and you know, it's like a Julius Peppers, like Julius Peppers may not have been, you know, the biggest sack artist in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Historical difference maker for the Beers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for he just for.

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Speaker 3: Years, crazy for years, crazy, yeah for years. Yeah, So he made a big difference. And Max Crosby is that type of talent where you'd have to assume you could get a good four to fat years just based off of his will to compete, his desire to be the best that he can possibly be. You'll get four fave good years out of Max Crosby.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Michaeh Parsons first got to Green Bay, there were some complaints about, well, I mean, you know you're paying all that money you give up by that draft capital where the number.

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Speaker 3: In his back he doesn't have us, this, that and the other.

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Speaker 2: Just because the sack numbers weren't up initially, he was still setting other players up for success on the defense because of all the all the blocks he got, all the chips, all that stuff. It opened up so many other things for players. And Max Crosby's like that type of guy. I hadn't played either.

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Speaker 3: So that's an extreme circumstance, right, That's an extreme situation where a guy that you didn't expect to be somewhere else ends up somewhere else. He hadn't played. He had been It was like kind of a standoff, so he hadn't been playing. He wouldn't like really he did some participation, but not very It was very limited. In Dallas when all of those contractual conversations.

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Speaker 1: Is how dare he lay on a training table? He's laying on a training table.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what else in a play? You're not paying him to play? So I guess where else he was there? Yeah, I mean he had some nachos. You gotta eat, you know, Yeah, he was eating nachos, right, nachos.

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Speaker 1: That's a great move.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, right, Well, I mean maybe he was sending a message right like, this is nacho cheese.

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Speaker 1: Get it.

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Speaker 3: I can't got you, man, this is not your cheese. It ended up being pre babe. It ended up being green bage cheese. By the way, I said, little little pun intended maybe I don't know, a little.

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Speaker 2: Little pro tip for restaurants and anybody out there that makes nachos at home. You gotta layer it, okay, you gotta you gotta put one layer of the chips, then the toppings on, then the next layer of the chips, and then the toppings on. If you just put all the toppings on top of all the chips, next thing, you know, you got bear chips at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: They end up getting soggy. You gotta have the bones. You gotta got it.

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Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's one of those you know, it's just one of those things you gotta do the right way.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I baked mine.

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Speaker 3: You baked and then I put then I put the cold stuff on there, like the lettuce and the tomatoes and the sour cream and the guacamole. But I bake it first. I baked them bad boys move yeah, man, and then broil it broiled the top of the cheese, so the cheese is like like real nice and and like burnt. And then I put the other stuff on it when I take it out. Damn yeah, bruh.

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Speaker 1: That's how it's done. Fire Yeah, Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: You know, like you seem like you've got like a good plan in place when you're making all these meals. You know you should do what you should take over the job of getting the Bears a new stadium in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: That's what you should do. That might be a little bit more difficult. Though.

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Speaker 2: Here's the latest on the subject of the place that maybe Max Crosby could end up going if you believe all the speculation that his.

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Speaker 1: Career might be over about the time. So the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Released a statement earlier because there's been this speculation that they would go to Indiana to try and get a stadium done, that they would that Indiana wants to bring him in, and they want they'd like to bring in the Bears, and they've had all these you know, they've sat down at all these meetings and discussions and they put plans in place and all that. So this from the Bears. A statement from the Chicago Bears earlier. The passage of SB twenty seven, which is the Indiana Senate bill that they put together, would they marked the most meaningful step forward and our stadium planning efforts to date. The Bear said in a statement, we are committed to finishing the remaining site specific necessary due diligence to support our vision to build a world class stadium near the Wolf Lake area in Hammond, Indiana. We appreciate the leadership shown by the powers that be in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Their names are irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: General Assembly establishing this critical framework and path forward to deliver a premier venue for all Chicago land and a destination for Bears fans and visitors from across the globe. We value our partnership and look forward to continuing to build our working relationship together.

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Speaker 1: That from the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 2: The Indiana Governor Mike Brown posted on afterwards and released a statement.

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Speaker 1: So here we go.

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Speaker 2: Again with this crap that has been going on over and over and over and over again. They tried this garbage years ago where they threw out Indiana as a potential landing spot. They tried it like all of this, and I remember, you know, the great Mike North, you know sports talk radio legend, showed up in Gary, Indiana with a gas mask as a pit Fox Sports Radio a lum.

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Speaker 1: Mike North showed up to Gary, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: With a gas mask on because he had heard that there was a real odd odor in the city of Gary, Indiana. But now here we go with the Max Crosby speculation to the Bears and the news and the Bears having all this momentum coming off a successful season. We've got the Indiana possibility for a stadium to be rolled out and I don't know how it lands with you because we're not in Chicago, But how would it sit with you if this team ended up building a stadium and playing their games in Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's first of all, I think it it really depends on the concentration of of your fan base. Like Chicago is a lot of suburbs. You had the downtown, you had the you know, the city part of of of Chicago, but it's a lot of suburbs.

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Speaker 1: It's burbs.

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Speaker 3: It's like a whole bunch of them, like super super large amount of different areas that make up these different suburbs of Chicago. I would say this is a study that that the Chicago Bears need to get correct. Whether I'm right or wrong doesn't matter. I think what's what matters most is.

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Speaker 1: And trying to do this.

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Speaker 3: So here here are I guess the reported reasons as to why they they would want to move and do a stadium somewhere else. The Soldier Field is one of the smallest stadiums. That's that's one. That's old, super old, smallest stadium. Two, they want to dome it. They want to be able to do year round on Mega events at this venue, like so like you were saying, in comparison to like what Jerry Jones created, the model of of Jerry's world and the Star and all that stuff, what they're doing. Then there's the idea of the tax. The tax is connected to it, like what are you paying in taxes in Chicago? What are you paying in taxes? And in Indiana? So there's that idea of it. How is it being monetized? It sounds as though they're trying to do a privately monetized stadium. So if they're not doing it through tax dollars, I would assume that they're looking at this from the standpoint of if we're not using tax dollars to build this venue, then we want to have the best tax breaks that we could possibly get. That's what I would assume is the reason why. I don't know the tax situation in Indiana versus in Chicago, but I would assume that taxes are probably a little bit more lighter and easier in Indiana than they are in Chicago. I'm just assuming that could be an ignorant comment, so don't hold me to that, but I'm just assuming how much of your fan base is in Indiana. How I ask you guys, how far of a drive is that from Chicago? You guys said, like, what six hours or something like that. If I'm a Chicago Beers fan and my home team of the Chicago Beers are playing six hours away, I will never go to that game.

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Speaker 1: That's just me.

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Speaker 3: That's my take on it. I don't know, but if it were that long of a drive, depending on how long it is that we have to drive to get there, I think you're cutting yourself off to a very very Is it important, I should say, if you're a Chicago person, is it important an important part of you your fan demo? I mean, I think those are all questions that have to be answered, and it seems as though they're comfortable with it. If these are the conversations that have been ensuing, the continued idea that it could end up in Indiana. Says to me that they see the value in taking a mega a mega event center, not just where the Beers play, but a mega event center. So that means they probably would would have parking, and they will control their parking and how that works and other things that are you know, maybe they're able to do a nice practice facility. Maybe they're able. It's it's really a real estate play, is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Horse and they've talked about, you know, they want to leave the lakefront and go to Arlington Heights because that's where there was an old race track that was there, a horse racing track, and they've got all the land there, and there's been this back and forth the problem. And you can speak to this because look, it's it's not far from Chicago, you know, to get to Wolf Lake and Ham in Indiana and all that. It's like you know, maybe like a forty minute drive or something.

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Speaker 3: Well that's different now what y'all told me like like five six hours.

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Speaker 1: No, I think I forget what we were talking about.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was when Iowa, Iowa throughout the idea of also putting in a bid for the Bears, and so we were saying, oh, yeah, why not at this point, like why not Iowa?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, in.

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Speaker 3: Fact, the forty minute drive, you could probably take public transit some way somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, take the train to a certain place, uber whatever.

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Speaker 2: All that's listen, all that's fine. And ultimately, if they decide to move to Indiana and it's a better deal for them, Like, what do I care? The Giants and the Jets don't play in New York. They play in New Jersey, Like what do I care? Like they want to play there? We live in here in Los Angeles. Everyone raves about Sofi Stadium. It's a gazebo. Like if we're being hoy walk all the way around. Now, I can't, like, on a certain level, cut you off and you gotta go downstairs to get to where you needed to go. It's like the whole place is a it's a gazebo. So I look at I look at the situation with the Bear Stadium, and I'm just reminded of this because, for a little backstory for people that are unfamiliar with the show, the year before Aaron Rodgers started playing with the Jets, Brady Quinn and myself were really excited about it. Rogers is back, the Jets got a quarterback. It's this and this and one. LeVar Arrington said to us, telling you, guys, you can't escape dysfunction.

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Speaker 1: You can't escape it.

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Speaker 2: And I look at this situation with the Bears, and I'm reminded as to what is happening with the Washington Commanders where they had all this momentum, and there was all this stuff going on. Dan Snyder's out, he's gone. We're having discussions about, you know, Jade and Daniels being the next big thing and dan Quinn and their back and they're a game away from the Super Bowl and they're all this stuff, and then all of a sudden, this year happens. They've gotten rid of coordinator after coordinator. There's questions about Jayden Daniels' long term future and health. There there's questions about dan Quinn, what happened with Cliff Kingsbury, and you're just reminded, oh, there's still remnants of that. And there's been some reports that have said part of the staff overhaul there is because maybe some of the old people up top who still want to have a say in decisions on the field still exists in Washington, even though it's.

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Speaker 1: A new regime.

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Speaker 2: And I look at the Bear situation and I go, you finally want a playoff game for the first time in over a decade. You've got your quarterback of the future, you've got the head coach, you've got all this positive momentum, and then somebody knocks on your door and says oh, by the way, here's more dysfunction for you.

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Speaker 1: You're going to go to Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Because we still can't figure out how to get an f and stadium done.

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Speaker 1: Like they just they can't get out of their own way.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just every time bad teams historically have an opportunity or see a little glimmer of hope or see a light, it's like trying to swim to the top.

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Speaker 1: You go, oh, my god, there's the surface of the water.

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Speaker 2: And then you go, wait a second, let me stay down here a little bit longer and see what's around.

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Speaker 1: Like, let me go ahead and take a look at one of these UFOs. It's reportedly underwater.

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Speaker 2: It just this is why bad teams, for the most part, stay bad for a long time, because they can't help themselves. This stadium should have they should have already figured this out. They should have been all this stuff done. And still we're having this conversation. And as you mentioned, Iowa threw their name in the hat. You got the Lakefront, you've got Arlington, you've got Indiana, You've got the Bears releasing statements. You know, Kevin Warren's gonna have a statement that comes out. It's just some of these teams cannot figure out how to have success. They don't know how to do it. You brought Washington into the conversation. They've been dealing with the same the same thing, and they actually got it now. But so it makes me think about the idea that these are. I wonder how much relation relationships is driving why it's so difficult for Chicago to get this project done. Washington, DC was not going to support Dan Snyder and doing a new a new stadium.

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Speaker 3: They just weren't. This wasn't going to happen. Relationship wise, it wasn't going to happen. So I wonder now they get new ownership, new new type of energy, new type of people, relationships driving it, and now all of a sudden they get approved to do a new stadium where the old site of RFK was. Uh So that's that's exciting and interesting news. I think it's great to bring Washington d C's football team back to Washington d C. I think there's something magical about them playing in DC, even though I never played one game in d C. Just the stories that I heard, maybe that that returns and restores a lot of what was lost when they moved out to Landover, Maryland. As it applies to Chicago, I just wonder, is it is there a relationship friction between the people that are running Chicago in in Congress and and you know, local government. Is there a riff if there is there a long standing beef between ownership and the relationships between the Chicago Bears and these people.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you'd have to imagine they're probably not on great terms with how long this.

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Speaker 1: Is dragged on for?

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Speaker 3: Like how long did you if you have a good relationship, you can communicate through things, right, you can talk through things, you can figure out something that's going to work for everybody, all parties involved. When things don't get done and their drug out. For as long as this has been and there's so much indecision and indecisiveness on what it is that's taking place, you got to believe it's because people can't come together and talk through it and come up with a sensible solution to what it is that's going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird situation, but that is the latest. As there's momentum building towards the Chicago Bears actually building a stadium in Indiana and putting an end to this year's long battle between them and the City of Chicago. It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, filling in for the Dan Patrick Show, brought to you by True Green. Don't waste another weekend doing your lawng care yourself. Partner with the official law care treatment provider of the PGA Tour and get a golf course quality lawn the easy way. Sign up at Truegreen dot com, then sit back and relax.

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Speaker 1: Is this?

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Speaker 2: So got all that stuff going on with the NBA, and then on top of it, you've got this stuff happening when it comes to tanking. Where the Utah Jazz got popped I think like five hundred thousand dollars because they were leading in a game. They had two players who had combined for like fifty points, and then the Jazz decided as the fourth quarter started they were just going to sit both guys. And you're seeing these teams around the NBA almost blatantly resting players and tanking, and so Adam so trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. He's been a doormat for the player since he's gotten there, and so he wants to stop tanking and then a guy like Mark Cuban chimes in on social media and starts out this long ass tweet and tweet storm that starts with why the NBA should embrace tanking. And he went on to just fire away his thoughts and it was very well thought thought out and you know, just talked about you know, you know, fans know their team can't win every game. They know only one team can win a ring. What fans care about is their team's record. They want hope, hope that they will get better, have a chance to compete for the playoffs and then maybe win a ring. He says, you know who cares less about tanking a parent who can't afford to bring their three kids to a game and buy their kids a jersey or their favorite player.

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Speaker 1: Tanking isn't the issue?

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Speaker 2: Affordability and quality of the game presentation are all right?

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Speaker 1: That's I wouldn't disagree with you. I would neither like I think all of that is fair.

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Speaker 2: And while his point and direction he would take it is, you know, just bottom out. Like you know, if that's the case, if you're trying to get to that place, what's going to get you there faster is through the draft, through free agency. So why not bottom out me personally? If he's talking about hope, and he's talking about a fan base that wants hope. I'd rather have a team that I know is at least in contention for the playoffs every year, even if they're a five or a six or a seven seed. Then some team who's going to give away all their players, acquire a bunch of draft capital and hope that one of these lotto scratchers they get in the draft out of Lithuania turns out to be a superstar.

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Speaker 1: Like I would rather just be in contention.

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Speaker 2: Like you could say whatever you want about the Steelers, and you could say whatever you want about you know, when Marvin Lewis was in since and the Bengals are going to the playoffs but not winning playoff games. Dude, at least they were in contention. At least they were there with an opportunity to win games and have a chance to try and achieve the ultimate goal. I'd rather have that than some team that's resting starters just hoping that they win the draft lottery so that they could potentially land the next big thing and maybe possibly get to a point to where they could compete for a championship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Singular players through the draft and also through you know, blockbuster trades can profoundly impact the fortunes of a basketball team.

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Speaker 1: It's not as it's not as.

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Speaker 3: Complex to try to build a winning team in basketball than the say other sports like football, because there's just so many positions, right, Like basketball, you play both sides of the court. It's not like you go down, you play offense, you come off, somebody comes on, you play defense, they come off, you go back, you play offense, you play offense and defense you have. You're supposed to be multifaceted. You're supposed to have every impact on the phase.

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Speaker 1: Of the game.

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Speaker 3: And so when you when you start looking at how you go about building a team, you're always going to look at what is the most amazing player available for you to be able to try to bring into your franchise, and if you can get that by tanking and getting a lottery pick. I mean, everybody wanted Wimby, you know, I mean there's hard everybody wanted Lebron James. You know, people want what they want because when you get those type of players, they can transform your team into a competitive team. And so if you're tanking to try to get that type of pick and have that type of result. If you get one of those generational players, then now all you have to do is try to find the supporting cast. Now you're going to need at least one to two more franchised superstar players in today's league to be able to get it done. A guy like Wenby can't do it by himself. As good as Steph Curry has been, and he wasn't even considered a franchise guy coming out of college, still yet still he can't get it done by himself. Lebron James can't get it done by himself. That's why there's been so much conversation and who's coming in, who's going out, who's coaching the LA Lakers during this Lebron James era of time. So, yeah, you can get a guy that is an anchor franchise guy for your organization's that's a rising tipe for all ships in the harbor, right Like you're going to get Jersey sales, You're going to get that experience that Mark Cuban is talking about for your kids. You're going to want to come out of the house to go see the games. And spectate the games. You're going to want to go to events where you're able to meet the players and meet the star player. I think that that's to me if you're if you're looking at tanking, because that's what you're ultimately your goal is to try to do. I mean, I have a hard time while I don't like the idea of tanking, I have a hard time saying that tanking doesn't make sense in some scenarios and situation.

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Speaker 2: Now, the other side of this is Adam Silver is really against the whole tanking. As we pointed out, he popped the Jazz five hundred thousand dollars for conduct detrimental. Ben Dolliver was talking about this. He covers the NBA, and he spoke about what also could be some reasoning behind Adam Silver really trying to put his foot down on the tanking.

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Speaker 1: Issue in the league. And it's got a lot to do with their partners.

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Speaker 4: Now you have guys who are sitting down in the middle of games that are potentially winnable. They're not playing in the fourth quarter because you know teams are potentially playing for JAFT positioning. I think one real key aspect to this with Utah. If you're not playing guys in the fourth quarter, how many bets is that impacting?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: We know how much the NBA has gotten in bed with gambling. You know, over unders are at steak. You know, player props are at steak. If coaches are just really nearly not playing guys the entire game and they're not letting people know in advance that they plan to do that, they're gonna have a lot of angry gamblers and a lot of angry gambling companies as well. So I think that was one aspect to why he really had to late a SmackDown, so to speak, you know, at All Star weekend.

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Speaker 2: So I get the concern for gambling and the impact of gambling on the NBA, But if you're going to base how you run your league on the gambling partners and the paranoid that comes along with it, then you should have never gotten involved with them to begin with. Because this stuff has always existed. That's what gambling's about. The best gamblers find an advantage, find a spot or a weakness, and they attack it. If you find out some guys got an injury, then you figured it out from talking to somebody, you know, close.

00:30:24
Speaker 1: To him, like you're going to lean into that.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: If you know that a team isn't interested in winning and they're going to rest players like the Jazz did, you can use that as some sort of an intel to handicap how the game is going to go. If they're basing all of their decisions, well, I.

00:30:44
Speaker 3: Make it a little bit more difficult, you know. I feel like it would make it a little bit more difficult if I got to work with the idea that you're benching some of your best players, and the idea of like outside of the wins and losses aspect of it, Like, but what do you like, how do you figure out what the total over under is going to be or what or you know how many you know the team that's going to end up eventually winning because you're tanking they're.

00:31:08
Speaker 1: Going to win.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: I feel like it makes the elements a little bit more difficult in the gambling world, you know, if you're really looking.

00:31:14
Speaker 2: At it, and those elements have always been there, Like there's there's always been an over under, there's always been a point spread, there's been prop bets, there's been all sorts of stuff that you could gamble on.

00:31:24
Speaker 3: But the issue is doesn't that even hurt you on the prop betting right, like they took them out for the fourth quarter.

00:31:31
Speaker 2: And you could also and look, they've they've tried to put limits on some of this stuff, and different books do different things, like you had. The The issue is with the gambling stuff. And Adam Silver saw the money and the dollars attached to the gambling companies that come in and let me tell you something, for people listening, it matters like gambling companies have changed the game. I don't care if it's radio, podcasting, television, sports league.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: It's huge. It's huge.

00:32:01
Speaker 2: But there's also because of that, you've got a bunch of virgins for lack of a better term, who've never gambled, who don't know anything about the world, and they see every gambling story as a threat to the establishment. Oh my god, it's a threat to the integrity of the game.

00:32:17
Speaker 1: Dude.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban just said it. Hey, we didn't always tank, but we did sometimes. And that guy ran an NBA team, and that guy ran an NBA team who needed fans in the building and is saying after the fact, oh yeah we tank games, Yeah, of course we did. Like I get it.

00:32:33
Speaker 3: That's why he's the man though, because he's willing to put himself out there and he's willing to let his fan base know. And which, by the way, is a very strategic move in the sense that they're they're you know, aggressively approaching trying to repurchase the majority stake of the team.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Right, So you know, think about the timing of that he's throwing it out there. Yeah, I mean, if you want me back, at least, I'll do it on the up and up. And I won't trade Luca there you go. Yeah, yeah, there the easy way back in. It's just I think people like start to attach gambling to the issues in the NBA and the issues of tanking. Dude, Tanking's always been there. Gambling's always been there.

00:33:13
Speaker 1: You just know.

00:33:14
Speaker 2: About it now that that's what the real difference is. And so if this is.

00:33:18
Speaker 3: All I know about it, then they just didn't want you to know they knew about it.

00:33:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the officials knew about it too.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: Yeah. Come on, everybody is in on it. That money was touching everybody, including owners, is touching everybody.

00:33:29
Speaker 2: And I'll say this right now, all right, gambling is a wonderful thing for sports and I've told you this and I've said this before. If you want to make a game interesting, it is the hot sauce or condiment for your game, Like, oh, you're watching, like when Terry Rozier got popped because you know some guy won thirteen grand on a Hornets whatever tip Pelicans game on a Thursday night.

00:33:56
Speaker 1: Did you know what that guy deserves?

00:33:58
Speaker 2: Whatever money he made, they based on the fact that that guy was watching a Hornets Pelicans game on a Thursday night in March, Okay, And.

00:34:05
Speaker 1: Why was he watching it?

00:34:07
Speaker 2: Because the hot sauce that he got to use to put on the game to make it that much more better, to make it taste that much better.

00:34:13
Speaker 1: That's exactly You'd better believe it.

00:34:16
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00:36:04
Speaker 5: Time to find out what's left towns incredible.

00:36:08
Speaker 2: Here's the leftovers, all right, So to find out what we've not gotten to yet, we turn it over to our executive producer, the one and only Patrick Sweeka Patty.

00:36:17
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, what's up guys? It's time for the leftovers? And boy I got one for candy here. That's not gonna be good to hear. So we all like Reese's right for those of us that don't have PCs Peanut.

00:36:32
Speaker 2: Butter cups, that that was Patty's go to on the plane to a super Bowl he was getting.

00:36:36
Speaker 1: Reese's s cups are good. No way that you remember that. Yeah, he's going he's nice.

00:36:43
Speaker 6: I actually did. He's not lying everybody there and back that said everybody that said, here's a Reese's uh related thing. So the grandson of inventor of Reese's peanut butter cups is lashed out at the Hershety company because he's accusing her she's of hurting the Reese's brand because they're going to cheaper ingredients and as I quote, cutting corners on Reese's. In fact, there is actually saying. A report was that the company has replaced the milk chocolate with a I guess a compound coating like a chocolate candy.

00:37:19
Speaker 1: And it's not peanut butter.

00:37:20
Speaker 6: It's excuse me, peanut crem cream but cr em.

00:37:27
Speaker 1: So yeah, sounds it's not real milk chocolate or real peanut butter.

00:37:32
Speaker 2: That's not a real trying to say yes, all right, So now when did this start? They have a start date of when things change with the Reeses, and they got fake according to this report. Because and here's you know, I would argue this. I don't know how you feel about M and M's. I think Greese's pieces are better than M and M's. Absolutely bro not even close. What pieces are it? Yeah, they're better than mm's, not even close. Now, M and M's another story. Okay, fair peanut M and ms versus Reese's piece still not known with you, I'm with you. There's something special and magical about like they caught something.

00:38:10
Speaker 1: They broke the mole with recent piece.

00:38:12
Speaker 2: It was the only way they could lure et out of that workshd Et ya Et looked like Johnny Manzel on one of his benders back in the day. They lord them out of a WORKSHD by by dropping Reese's pieces on the ground.

00:38:29
Speaker 1: That's how effective that candy is.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: That gets you going, yeah, all right, what do we got?

00:38:36
Speaker 1: What else we got? Patty? All right, so we're gonna actually go back to the little Patty.

00:38:42
Speaker 6: So we have an NFL related one here. It's not Reese's pieces or candy related, but we actually have something Houston Texan related. So John McClain is a longtime beat reporter for the Houston Texans.

00:38:53
Speaker 1: Here.

00:38:54
Speaker 6: He's actually recently, in fact, two days ago, went on record to talk about c J.

00:38:58
Speaker 1: Stroud.

00:38:58
Speaker 6: He is adamant and confident that Stroud will not be traded from the Texans. In fact, he went on Twitter and I quote, if CJ. Stroud is traded, I'll walk naked down Kirby Drive at rush hour? Is anyone else willing to do it if he's not traded. Didn't think so.

00:39:14
Speaker 1: End quote.

00:39:15
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned something Patty during the break. Did he also make the same claim when Deshaun Watson was.

00:39:22
Speaker 6: He didn't say he would run down naked with Deshaun Watson, but he did.

00:39:28
Speaker 1: What was it?

00:39:28
Speaker 6: NFL fans actually pointed out that he was proven wrong before on Deshaun Watson. He declared that he had a better chance of becoming a head coach of the Texans than the team trading at the time of Deshaun Watson quarterbacks.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: I don't see why not with that information. That wasna that's a that's a Bowld claim.

00:39:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, really bold.

00:39:48
Speaker 2: The CJ. Stroud getting traded stuff. I get why this again? This is like the Max Crosby stuff we opened the show with. You know, it's all about that thread, you know, the off season NFL story, these.

00:40:00
Speaker 1: Drafts coming up. This is when the rumors start to circulate. There's c J.

00:40:06
Speaker 2: Stroud has shown you enough to where why would you move on from him? You keep them and we're done with this show though. That's that's what that's what we are.

00:40:13
Speaker 1: We're out.

00:40:14
Speaker 3: We're out of here, man. We got tomorrow though I'll see you tomorrow. Damn right, I guess I'll see you tomorrow. We'll come back and on YouTube. I mean it was good. I looked really, really beefy, and but you look good at least. No, you look a little Dracula though a little pasty.

00:40:30
Speaker 1: But no

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Black