Chapter 2 Ep. 26 Las Vegas and the WSOP

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Podcasting from the ad up studio.

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It's the longest running Poker podcast

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for the everyday Poker player,

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with your host. Go scale.

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Help 18, and welcome to the idiot Poker

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podcast, where every hand is an opportunity. Every

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player is a friend, and every episode is

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a winning experience. Hello I'm your host, Joe

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Scales, and

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I'm really hoping you have all jumped into

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the Anti up series on Rad poker.

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Unfortunately,

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I have not had the time to jump

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over there and play this week. You know,

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obviously, I've been out here in Vegas.

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I do plan on getting on there and

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playing soon no, and

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I'm thinking I may actually jump on there

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tomorrow.

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Regardless, get on there, play.

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The game is fun. I think Na and

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his team have put together a phenomenal site.

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I was actually playing on there before we

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talked and came up with this Tournament series,

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and I'm gonna continue to play on there

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when the series is over.

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And N nissan was

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gracious enough to give everyone a month for

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free

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to jump on there and try it out.

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After a month, it's 4 dollars and 99

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cents a month, if you love it. And

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if you don't, you cancel. And

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if that ends up being the case then

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give on

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feedback onto to why because

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they're looking to improve their site. So

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I'm sure they would appreciate that

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I also wanted to take a minute to

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give a couple of shout outs.

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Fred Mc mckinney has been a listener for

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a long time, and found me on the

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floor of the W sop actually,

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and

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Zach Church also found me and he just

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found the show about 3 months ago.

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They both came up to say hello and

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that means the world

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I, also wanted to think Chad Hollow with

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Poker News and and Jesse Fu with the

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W sop.

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They were the first 2 people actually to

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reach out to me when I took over

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Any up. And, of course, Chad used to

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be an ambassador for.

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Jesse was also with Poker News at 1

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point, but now he's with the W sop,

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and they both came and found me out

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here. It was awesome talking to them, and

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getting some insight about how they do

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things here because

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they've been doing this for a long time.

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So thank you to all of you guys.

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Tomorrow, we actually get to have lunch with

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Todd Le.

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He's been out here dealing at the wind,

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and it's gonna be great to catch up

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with him as well.

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So and and we're gonna be here for

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a while. So if you're in Vegas or

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on your way to Vegas.

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Shoot me a message, let me know.

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That's all I have. So

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let's get on with the show.

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Find out, what conversations are happening around the

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poker table.

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With table tom.

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Elena and I are back around the Poker

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table. And it's hot.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. It has been

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a hundred and teens

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every day that we've been out here.

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Like yesterday was a hundred and 18.

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Yes.

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I think it was a hundred and 15

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the day we got here. I don't have

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a clue what it's gonna be today, but

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every day in the forecast was...

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A hundred

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15, 16 17,

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like, it's crazy. It's not gonna drop till

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under

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10.

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Until next week. If you haven't already noticed,

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we are in Las Vegas this week coming

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to you live

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and

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staying hydrated has been extremely important. Yeah. And

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not the adult beverage hydrated, like, water.

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Right. Water is is what's been

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necessary. And because we're out here covering the

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W sop and

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checking out casinos and all the seeds in

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the site We've also gotten way more steps

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and we normally

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do. And so our bodies are grateful for

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that. I I cannot tell you how I

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haven't slept this hard at night. In a

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long time. Since Like I was a kid

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at camp. This 1 feels like when you

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go to bed at night. You're so tired

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you don't remember honestly asleep. Right.

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So

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it's been great.

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Whip we've seen some great things.

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had...

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I mean, Jack bin in the horseshoe. Mh.

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Is such a cool place. It really is.

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And we only even sat at the bar.

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I think we're gonna go to the dining

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room

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next week

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to to grab a stake. But

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sitting at the bar. Maker's marks Ari, we

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did cheat on you a little bit. They

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had an amazing

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old fashion

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Yeah. It's smoked in this plexiglass

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box, and you had to open the box

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to get to drink out in the smoke.

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Just

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bill out. It was really cool. No.

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All the angels saying. Yeah. Yeah. And the

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the bartender there are great. They've they've been

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working there for years. They know

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how to create an amazing

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presentation. Yeah. And we actually found it because

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we saw,

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Aaron Massey had told us where he found

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it, but we saw his real

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and

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we're, like, we have to check that out.

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Yeah. So thanks, Erin. We really appreciate you

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letting us know because it was

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delicious. Yeah. Yeah.

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And,

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that was during our time on the strip.

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It gets a little more expensive there on

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the weekends,

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So we moved downtown.

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Yeah. But we'll go back to the strip

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after Sunday. We're we're where it all began.

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I like being down here. Yeah. This was

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your first time to see downtown. It it

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is. It is. And actually, I really feel

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like this is the first time Experiencing Real

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Vegas when we were here when I was

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here and

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20 21. You've been back since, but there

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was still during somewhat at the height of

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Covid, and not as many travelers, not as

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many experience is available. And so

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I'm really enjoying myself, not to mention sitting

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down

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around a table for the second time of

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ever playing a cash game of been a

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tournament player up until this point, you guys

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know I've been taking lessons, Joe and I

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play. We have home games. If you're following

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the story. If not,

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I've It's your first time listening. This was

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my second cash game ever. We went to

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see Trooper

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at the West Gate. Yep. His table is

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full, so we joined A12 game

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man was that fun. Your nickname is now

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the black widow.

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Nobody wants to get caught. In my way.

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You did quite well. You you played very

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well, but look... I mean, the cards were

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in your favor as well, but you did.

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You played very well. Thank you. You did

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well. I doubled my money last night. Yeah.

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And And wrecked some egos.

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I think more importantly ladies.

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We had people from San Antonio. We had

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people from Chicago I town. Yeah. We had

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end my lucky charm. Hello the Norwegian.

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Norwegian On you're right. All the people in

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all the poker rooms available,

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Who do I sit next to a Norwegian

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who's been playing in the main event? I

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didn't even get his name.

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We just had the best time swapping Nor

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words back and forth, and he was

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Most impressed that a,

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American woman is playing the game. So it

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was fun. It was so much fun. If

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you don't understand the connection...

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Elle lived in Norway

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in previous years. And so

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it holds a special place in her heart.

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Still,

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So... Yeah.

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So it was really cool that you got

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to sit down, and

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you said a couple of Norwegian words and

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he was, like,

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Hi good.

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Oh my god. Yeah. It was it was

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great.

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You know, guys, the reason we're really out

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here is to cover the W o but

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when you're in Vegas, you gotta have a

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little bit of fun as well. We are

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not covering hand by hand, all the stats,

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all the things. There's plenty of other people

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outlets for everybody to be following that along.

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We're we're following the everyday poker player. Where

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is everybody playing if they busted it out

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of the main. If they're still in the

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main, what are their stories

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just really out here to glean the whole

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experience overall, and

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it's been a blast.

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Oh my gosh. And if you don't follow

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if you don't follow us on social media,

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be sure to do that because especially, like,

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Instagram

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slash Facebook,

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because

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we've been posting some of the things there.

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my favorite thing, I had never seen

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the world series main event,

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bubble burst 4? 0, my god. I wasn't

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able to be with you, but it's it

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was insane. In Sandy. I mean, Daniel No...

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I think Vlog number 42 or 43 was

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about. The bubble insanity. It was absolutely insane.

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5 tables at the same time and they

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stop the play. Yeah. Everywhere. Like freeze. It's,

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like freaking red light green light. Yeah. Red

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light freeze. But you also have

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every media outlet

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known to man,

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holding cameras up above the crowd and trying

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to get it all on on video

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and

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closest to the Paparazzi feel we'll ever get.

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Yeah. 100 percent. And I was part of

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the Paparazzi. It was crazy.

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Yeah. Well, we're gonna create a couple of,

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highlights from from the week of us being

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here 10 days. And so stay tuned to

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that. We're having a lot more fun getting

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out there. On social media. And,

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we're also sharing some tips along the way.

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I mean, Maker's mark is the sponsor of

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table talk or and we may have cheated

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on you a little bit when we went

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to Bin, but guess what? We've got the

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bottle in the room. We're hosting our own

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happy hours in it's excellent way. To save

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money

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on your dining experiences here in Vegas is

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have a have a little happy hour in

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your room. Yeah. And, you know what? They

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they kind of encourage it. Like, yes. A

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lot of places will be, like, oh, you

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can't bring

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your alcohol or whatever.

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They encourage it. So

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it's good. They know they know it's expensive.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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As everything is. I mean... Prices are going

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up everywhere and they are certainly high here.

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Yeah. But it... 1 of the other highlights

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of the world series I loved watching

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The final 4 of the 1508

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game mix. Mh.

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That was really cool.

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Miami John. Miami John Ser. Yeah. And Josh

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R a,

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and, I mean,

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Garth,

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beat.

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This field of

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just sharks. Yes. Yes. And Garth hasn't played

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in in an event, I think in over

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20 years. Is that right? I I think

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it was

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20 years since he had cash 1. I

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don't know if he played a number or

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not.

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Since he's cash. But but... Yeah. 20 year

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drought between this win and his last life,

301
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tournament,

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cash.

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That's crazy. Yeah. Well, he's Blake Shelton to

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me. I came around the corner. I was

305
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like, he's Blake Shelton playing in the world

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series of poker. And then I kept looking

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and, like, Joe. Who is that? Let's check

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him out and see and keep watching and

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it's so much fun. Yeah. I keep saying

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that phrase over and over again. I really

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am. It's like a kid camp. I'm having

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so much fun. And and in Miami John

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O'leary, his rail was was off the rail.

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They were having a great time. Camp Josh

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Aria wife, and his dog came I got

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to pet his dog as

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soon as I get to see his His

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dogs has the biggest smile. The biggest smile.

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So it was really fun to be around

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that rail and cannot wait to continue.

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Stand... We've been able to

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watch lots of pros.

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We've gotten a glimpse of Phil. We've gotten

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phil Ivy. We've gotten a glance of,

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phil Helm playing. So it's been

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an experience to say the least. And to

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be able to to be media and not

328
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have to stand behind the ropes this year

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has also

330
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been really nice. Yeah. It really has been

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cool. There there have been a couple of

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times when people are like, you have to

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go, oh, I'm sorry. Your media. Great.

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Yeah. Yeah. I got to say you had

335
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Maria H when she was playing. Yeah. And

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so we're down into the hundreds at this

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point.

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And we'll continue to cover and check in

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with folks throughout the weekend. They have Monday.

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Like, a hundred and 63

341
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at this point. And then... Yeah.

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Today tomorrow, Sunday,

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they'll play it down to the final 9

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and then take Monday off,

345
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and then

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play down at the final 3 on Tuesday?

347
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Yeah. And we'll cover.

348
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That's when we'll be covering more intense

349
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poker action. Yeah. I plan to be on

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that real all day. Yeah Wednesday. It's gonna

351
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be

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exciting. That energy is gonna be

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unreal. I mean, it's already been crazy, but

354
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that energy for the final 9 is gonna

355
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be

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intense. If you've ever competed in any sport

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that you're so nervous you wanna vomit before

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the buzzer or the whistle goes off or

359
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the gun?

360
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Sally I used to feel when I was

361
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running cross country is waiting for them to

362
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shoot that signal off for us to to

363
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hit

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hit the trail.

365
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Like, you're walking in there and I like

366
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have to take a break sometime. Have to

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leave the room because it's just

368
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emotions,

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energy is high.

370
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Oh, yeah. 100 percent. Very very, very high.

371
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But before we get to that, you've talked

372
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about the spear.

373
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For so long. So we're going tonight.

374
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You're finally gonna get to see it. I

375
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saw it from the outside

376
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Now we'll see it from the inside. Yes.

377
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We scored tickets to a dead and company

378
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before they leave, and the headline... The next

379
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headline is gonna be the Eagles That would

380
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have been amazing. It's that would have been.

381
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The eagles would have been an incredible show

382
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as well, but I feel

383
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more than honored and and over the moon

384
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excitement to be able to get into the

385
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sphere and see

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and hear all the things. Yeah. Yeah. It's

387
00:14:01,815 --> 00:14:02,293
gonna be...

388
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It's gonna be wild.

389
00:14:05,813 --> 00:14:07,087
We were... I was just giving you a

390
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hard time for saying wild so much earlier.

391
00:14:09,079 --> 00:14:10,672
It was it's gonna be wild. It is

392
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gonna be wild. And I... And an... And

393
00:14:12,598 --> 00:14:14,586
as the young kids say these days, and

394
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I'm here for it.

395
00:14:16,654 --> 00:14:18,722
It's gonna be wild, and I'm here for

396
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it. Yeah.

397
00:14:19,995 --> 00:14:20,495
But...

398
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And in the meantime,

399
00:14:23,197 --> 00:14:25,829
if you haven't already start following us on

400
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socials because we're putting a lot of stuff

401
00:14:27,504 --> 00:14:29,418
out there and we're having a blast out

402
00:14:29,418 --> 00:14:30,136
here in Vegas,

403
00:14:31,109 --> 00:14:33,027
But, yeah, let's go get some more stuff

404
00:14:33,027 --> 00:14:35,104
done. It's always pleasure being around the table

405
00:14:35,104 --> 00:14:36,542
with you, Joe. Likewise.

406
00:14:40,154 --> 00:14:42,095
Gal time for call the floor

407
00:14:42,475 --> 00:14:43,855
with Elliott Checked.

408
00:14:48,483 --> 00:14:50,395
Elliott Sc joined us each week to say

409
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how he would rule on situations that come

410
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up in your games, and he's with us

411
00:14:54,219 --> 00:14:56,942
again this week. Elliott, How are you? I'm

412
00:14:56,942 --> 00:14:58,532
doing for well. Thanks. Things are good.

413
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How are you doing this week?

414
00:15:01,635 --> 00:15:03,797
I'm doing well. Trying to find a... A

415
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quiet area. I'm actually in the Fedex copy

416
00:15:06,261 --> 00:15:07,612
and Prince business center.

417
00:15:09,042 --> 00:15:11,029
So shout out to them for, let me

418
00:15:11,029 --> 00:15:12,221
use this little area,

419
00:15:12,714 --> 00:15:15,032
But Yeah. Thank you, Fed. Yeah.

420
00:15:15,911 --> 00:15:17,749
But we have a call the floor this

421
00:15:17,749 --> 00:15:20,865
week that Sent by his name's Andy Buckle,

422
00:15:21,997 --> 00:15:22,497
and

423
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this isn't interesting when. I thought it was

424
00:15:24,703 --> 00:15:27,092
a pretty interesting topic. He he said he

425
00:15:27,092 --> 00:15:29,241
was playing a live event over the weekend.

426
00:15:29,734 --> 00:15:31,672
And had a situation occur

427
00:15:32,051 --> 00:15:34,128
after moving to a new table and he

428
00:15:34,128 --> 00:15:36,625
had never heard of or seen it before

429
00:15:36,939 --> 00:15:38,853
So he was curious what you would have

430
00:15:38,853 --> 00:15:40,049
ruled in this situation.

431
00:15:41,006 --> 00:15:41,905
There are

432
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,712
3 levels left until the end of day

433
00:15:45,712 --> 00:15:46,031
1.

434
00:15:46,524 --> 00:15:48,036
And there's they're 30 minute levels.

435
00:15:48,911 --> 00:15:50,685
So he's moved to this new table

436
00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:53,709
and seat 1 is the villain

437
00:15:54,323 --> 00:15:55,278
in question here,

438
00:15:56,647 --> 00:15:57,147
So

439
00:15:57,524 --> 00:16:00,553
he says, I open on the cutoff, Bill

440
00:16:00,553 --> 00:16:01,532
is on the button

441
00:16:02,307 --> 00:16:04,141
is a standard open. Nothing exciting.

442
00:16:04,872 --> 00:16:05,372
Villain

443
00:16:05,825 --> 00:16:06,778
tank calls.

444
00:16:08,128 --> 00:16:09,398
So we go to the flop.

445
00:16:10,510 --> 00:16:12,988
But before they... The flop is dealt a

446
00:16:12,988 --> 00:16:15,223
player not in the hand, mu,

447
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,399
he has been tanking

448
00:16:17,856 --> 00:16:19,851
all day, and it's getting ridiculous.

449
00:16:20,823 --> 00:16:23,294
Which is followed by several players agreeing.

450
00:16:24,729 --> 00:16:27,359
The flop comes out he continues for about

451
00:16:27,359 --> 00:16:29,468
half pot on the flop, and the villain

452
00:16:29,685 --> 00:16:30,880
begins to tank again.

453
00:16:32,076 --> 00:16:34,865
After 20 seconds, a player at the table

454
00:16:34,865 --> 00:16:35,662
calls clock,

455
00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:40,297
Villain uses his entire time and unfolds.

456
00:16:41,173 --> 00:16:41,970
The next hand,

457
00:16:43,005 --> 00:16:45,156
Villain again tanks pre flock.

458
00:16:46,125 --> 00:16:48,031
Immediately, the same player calls clock.

459
00:16:48,667 --> 00:16:50,891
Again, at and then as we reach the

460
00:16:50,891 --> 00:16:53,114
flop, the same player calls clock again,

461
00:16:54,004 --> 00:16:56,657
And after calling clock 3 times

462
00:16:57,035 --> 00:16:59,587
in as many streets of action, the floor

463
00:16:59,587 --> 00:17:02,219
gives a verbal went warning to the player

464
00:17:02,219 --> 00:17:03,495
who has called clock.

465
00:17:04,228 --> 00:17:04,785
3 times.

466
00:17:06,697 --> 00:17:07,573
The next hand,

467
00:17:08,290 --> 00:17:09,906
the villain begins the tank

468
00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:13,092
and clock is called immediately again

469
00:17:13,404 --> 00:17:15,079
but this time by a different player.

470
00:17:16,355 --> 00:17:19,067
So now the entire table begins to take

471
00:17:19,067 --> 00:17:19,466
turns,

472
00:17:20,502 --> 00:17:23,055
calling clock for every action the Villain makes.

473
00:17:24,509 --> 00:17:26,909
So Andy says I've never seen a situation

474
00:17:26,909 --> 00:17:27,970
like this before

475
00:17:28,509 --> 00:17:30,429
where 8 out of the 10 players at

476
00:17:30,429 --> 00:17:30,909
a table.

477
00:17:31,403 --> 00:17:33,471
Proceeded to target a single player.

478
00:17:34,743 --> 00:17:36,573
So his question is how do you deal

479
00:17:36,573 --> 00:17:37,607
with this situation?

480
00:17:38,258 --> 00:17:40,666
Can you give penalties to the entire table

481
00:17:40,961 --> 00:17:43,027
and allow the table to continue with only

482
00:17:43,027 --> 00:17:43,504
2 players?

483
00:17:44,696 --> 00:17:45,332
And he says, I...

484
00:17:46,141 --> 00:17:48,125
Understand this is a unique situation, but thought

485
00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:49,657
it was an interesting 1. So

486
00:17:50,427 --> 00:17:51,062
what do you think?

487
00:17:51,935 --> 00:17:53,682
Speaking for all of my colleagues, we wish

488
00:17:53,682 --> 00:17:55,230
him were more me me. And

489
00:17:55,849 --> 00:17:57,289
the fact the matter is this is covered

490
00:17:57,289 --> 00:17:58,089
in the rules twice.

491
00:17:59,210 --> 00:18:01,710
First in rule 2, which is player responsibilities,

492
00:18:02,009 --> 00:18:04,023
players have a responsibility to act in the

493
00:18:04,023 --> 00:18:06,340
timely manner in order to expedite the gain.

494
00:18:07,538 --> 00:18:08,038
And,

495
00:18:08,737 --> 00:18:10,470
of course, the actual clock rule

496
00:18:11,462 --> 00:18:14,081
rule 29 currently, but I may change when

497
00:18:14,081 --> 00:18:16,645
the next additions sent out with a couple

498
00:18:16,859 --> 00:18:18,685
new rules calling for the clock.

499
00:18:19,811 --> 00:18:20,788
The last sentence

500
00:18:21,162 --> 00:18:22,592
is especially important.

501
00:18:23,387 --> 00:18:25,373
Tournament directors may adjust the time allowed and

502
00:18:25,373 --> 00:18:27,598
take other steps to stop persistent delays.

503
00:18:28,408 --> 00:18:29,124
So, I mean,

504
00:18:30,318 --> 00:18:31,852
Andy, you seem to be

505
00:18:32,387 --> 00:18:34,398
making a hero of the guy who's tanking

506
00:18:34,694 --> 00:18:36,365
and and turning rest of the table into

507
00:18:36,445 --> 00:18:37,343
Villains. And

508
00:18:37,813 --> 00:18:40,282
in almost every case where we make a

509
00:18:40,282 --> 00:18:42,672
decision. It's rare to find 1 person who's

510
00:18:42,672 --> 00:18:44,105
saying and 8 people who are insane.

511
00:18:44,743 --> 00:18:46,017
It's generally the opposite.

512
00:18:47,147 --> 00:18:48,738
And the default does not lie with the

513
00:18:48,738 --> 00:18:50,726
people who are calling the clock here. I

514
00:18:50,726 --> 00:18:52,499
regret to inform you that the fault lies

515
00:18:52,556 --> 00:18:54,942
with the person who was consistently tanking every

516
00:18:54,942 --> 00:18:55,181
time.

517
00:18:55,993 --> 00:18:57,429
We're gonna assume this is not a time

518
00:18:57,429 --> 00:18:57,987
clock tournament.

519
00:18:58,545 --> 00:19:01,417
Right. So tanking for every single decision and

520
00:19:01,417 --> 00:19:03,113
taking the maximum amount of time

521
00:19:04,288 --> 00:19:05,165
is not reasonable.

522
00:19:06,135 --> 00:19:08,623
And the tournament director should have specifically

523
00:19:09,157 --> 00:19:10,691
warned and then penalized

524
00:19:11,384 --> 00:19:14,326
the serial tanker and not the rest of

525
00:19:14,326 --> 00:19:14,803
the table.

526
00:19:16,090 --> 00:19:17,442
To the point where I'd get the guy

527
00:19:17,442 --> 00:19:19,033
5 seconds stack act before the flop 10

528
00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:21,101
seconds stack act on the flop and so

529
00:19:21,101 --> 00:19:21,259
forth.

530
00:19:22,134 --> 00:19:22,770
I'm not enough.

531
00:19:24,059 --> 00:19:25,580
All of the players are around the clock,

532
00:19:26,220 --> 00:19:27,740
not just the players at the table, but

533
00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:29,019
the players in the entire field.

534
00:19:30,299 --> 00:19:31,259
This can't go on.

535
00:19:32,231 --> 00:19:34,240
If 1 table is playing less hands

536
00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:36,522
significantly than any other table.

537
00:19:38,111 --> 00:19:40,178
That's a distinct advantage for that table over

538
00:19:40,178 --> 00:19:41,862
the rest of the field. And and is

539
00:19:41,862 --> 00:19:42,577
completely unfair.

540
00:19:43,293 --> 00:19:44,963
Everything we've done to the game over the

541
00:19:44,963 --> 00:19:46,791
last in the 15 to 20 years has

542
00:19:46,791 --> 00:19:47,450
been to

543
00:19:47,904 --> 00:19:50,154
make things more broadly fair

544
00:19:50,704 --> 00:19:52,244
but also to

545
00:19:53,105 --> 00:19:54,784
expedite the game in in many different ways.

546
00:19:55,265 --> 00:19:57,744
We've added chips. We've made line levels longer.

547
00:19:58,944 --> 00:19:59,765
We've gotten

548
00:20:00,475 --> 00:20:02,300
shuffle machines on as many tables as possible.

549
00:20:03,173 --> 00:20:05,634
We gone to big blind annie instead of

550
00:20:05,634 --> 00:20:07,062
having to go an individual annie.

551
00:20:08,346 --> 00:20:08,846
Everything

552
00:20:09,614 --> 00:20:11,699
we've done tournaments that has increased

553
00:20:12,626 --> 00:20:14,449
the amount of hands per level the amount

554
00:20:14,449 --> 00:20:17,325
of... Chips for stack, and therefore the amount

555
00:20:17,325 --> 00:20:18,938
of skill allowed to be

556
00:20:19,313 --> 00:20:19,949
shown through.

557
00:20:21,062 --> 00:20:23,607
For somebody to evaporate that time, it's not

558
00:20:23,607 --> 00:20:24,243
within the rules.

559
00:20:25,213 --> 00:20:26,171
And it's certainly,

560
00:20:26,968 --> 00:20:28,005
basically an angle.

561
00:20:29,281 --> 00:20:29,781
And

562
00:20:30,238 --> 00:20:32,232
obviously a way to annoy other players at

563
00:20:32,232 --> 00:20:34,146
the table, which again, it is not within

564
00:20:34,146 --> 00:20:34,466
the rules.

565
00:20:36,795 --> 00:20:38,471
Sometimes you need time to make a decision,

566
00:20:38,711 --> 00:20:39,509
and that's fine.

567
00:20:40,228 --> 00:20:41,606
We don't call the clocks

568
00:20:42,463 --> 00:20:43,580
at various tables.

569
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:46,880
Based on demand only. We also

570
00:20:47,334 --> 00:20:48,447
take a look at the situation.

571
00:20:49,321 --> 00:20:50,593
If there's few chips in the pot,

572
00:20:51,707 --> 00:20:53,297
and it's the first betting round,

573
00:20:54,109 --> 00:20:54,750
before the flop.

574
00:20:55,549 --> 00:20:57,549
We're inclined to grant a pretty quick clock.

575
00:20:58,350 --> 00:21:00,590
If 2 or more players stacks are in

576
00:21:00,590 --> 00:21:01,250
the middle

577
00:21:01,644 --> 00:21:03,706
And another guy is deciding for his entire

578
00:21:03,706 --> 00:21:05,134
life with a rather significant stack.

579
00:21:06,086 --> 00:21:07,753
We're probably not gonna call the clock. Even

580
00:21:07,753 --> 00:21:09,260
if a reasonable time. I a time has

581
00:21:09,260 --> 00:21:11,109
been passed. Because we don't know if it's

582
00:21:11,109 --> 00:21:11,750
been reasonable.

583
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:12,710
Again,

584
00:21:13,429 --> 00:21:13,669
especially,

585
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:15,349
500000

586
00:21:15,349 --> 00:21:17,190
dollar and 5000 dollar buying tournament,

587
00:21:18,564 --> 00:21:20,080
We're getting to give the guy and little

588
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,719
time to think.

589
00:21:21,597 --> 00:21:22,496
This particular

590
00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:23,533
villain

591
00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:26,066
correctly labeled. He's not the hero. Please don't

592
00:21:26,066 --> 00:21:26,465
believe that.

593
00:21:27,993 --> 00:21:29,051
Our villain here

594
00:21:29,427 --> 00:21:31,099
is not being reasonable to the rest of

595
00:21:31,099 --> 00:21:33,249
the field and to the table. And he's

596
00:21:33,249 --> 00:21:34,842
the 1 who deserves the warning in the

597
00:21:34,842 --> 00:21:35,161
penalties.

598
00:21:35,812 --> 00:21:36,767
Not the rest of the table.

599
00:21:37,482 --> 00:21:39,232
They weren't targeting him. They were sick of

600
00:21:39,232 --> 00:21:41,619
his act, and I quite agree with them.

601
00:21:43,147 --> 00:21:44,663
Yeah. Yeah. And I was glad to hear

602
00:21:44,663 --> 00:21:47,056
you say you actually said a number of

603
00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,049
the things that I was thinking because 1,

604
00:21:49,368 --> 00:21:51,283
I couldn't believe that the floor gave the

605
00:21:51,283 --> 00:21:52,261
warning to

606
00:21:52,654 --> 00:21:54,010
the guy calling the clock.

607
00:21:55,048 --> 00:21:56,803
And the other thought was,

608
00:21:57,521 --> 00:21:59,596
well, this is just further evidence that we

609
00:21:59,596 --> 00:22:01,464
need shock clocks or

610
00:22:02,078 --> 00:22:02,578
clocks,

611
00:22:03,351 --> 00:22:05,521
turn clocks or whatever you wanna call them

612
00:22:06,055 --> 00:22:06,555
because

613
00:22:07,502 --> 00:22:09,807
when you get to the tail end of

614
00:22:09,807 --> 00:22:11,794
a day, you know, and they're just trying

615
00:22:11,794 --> 00:22:13,383
to make the next day then this is

616
00:22:13,383 --> 00:22:16,268
what happens is tons of tanking, and and

617
00:22:16,579 --> 00:22:18,657
you... With a shock clock, you can only

618
00:22:18,657 --> 00:22:21,613
do that for so long. So... Right. So

619
00:22:21,773 --> 00:22:23,052
I was glad to hear you say that

620
00:22:23,052 --> 00:22:24,011
about the clock too.

621
00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:27,158
It it it gets ridiculous when

622
00:22:27,774 --> 00:22:29,629
somebody is tanking just

623
00:22:30,324 --> 00:22:31,519
for the sake of tanking.

624
00:22:32,077 --> 00:22:32,577
And

625
00:22:33,129 --> 00:22:33,927
Again, like you said,

626
00:22:34,804 --> 00:22:35,304
it's

627
00:22:36,081 --> 00:22:39,033
another way to just annoy everybody at a

628
00:22:39,033 --> 00:22:39,352
table.

629
00:22:40,964 --> 00:22:42,642
Right. And there's a lot of players just

630
00:22:42,642 --> 00:22:45,518
specialize in that, which is too bad. But

631
00:22:45,518 --> 00:22:46,178
it's certainly

632
00:22:47,276 --> 00:22:49,124
a component of the game, whether we want

633
00:22:49,124 --> 00:22:50,709
it to be or not. Let's face it.

634
00:22:50,867 --> 00:22:52,453
I mean, it's a game still played amongst

635
00:22:52,453 --> 00:22:52,611
people.

636
00:22:53,325 --> 00:22:55,647
And people will annoy other people. It's just

637
00:22:56,115 --> 00:22:57,315
built into our Dna.

638
00:22:57,634 --> 00:22:57,875
Right.

639
00:23:00,115 --> 00:23:00,755
Yeah. I...

640
00:23:02,115 --> 00:23:03,849
I have to say, Andy, you know... I'm

641
00:23:04,048 --> 00:23:05,400
I think this pretty well clears it up,

642
00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:08,421
but but I think, you know, you had

643
00:23:08,421 --> 00:23:09,931
just been moved to the table, so you

644
00:23:09,931 --> 00:23:12,395
probably weren't as annoyed with this as the

645
00:23:12,395 --> 00:23:12,952
other players.

646
00:23:14,162 --> 00:23:17,669
But, yes, serial tanking like that is un

647
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:19,365
uncomfortable for. And so

648
00:23:20,619 --> 00:23:21,869
if the if the

649
00:23:22,788 --> 00:23:25,047
tournament director wasn't going to take

650
00:23:25,665 --> 00:23:28,222
heed of that, then they were doing the

651
00:23:28,222 --> 00:23:30,060
only thing that they felt like they could

652
00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:30,300
do.

653
00:23:31,513 --> 00:23:33,905
I signed it likely that the the Td

654
00:23:33,905 --> 00:23:35,579
to that assigned to that section,

655
00:23:36,855 --> 00:23:38,848
did not get a complete picture or all

656
00:23:38,848 --> 00:23:39,565
the information,

657
00:23:40,537 --> 00:23:41,037
only

658
00:23:41,493 --> 00:23:43,666
saw what was at his fingertips, which was

659
00:23:43,723 --> 00:23:45,795
1 guy was consistently calling the clock on

660
00:23:45,795 --> 00:23:48,366
another player. Well, that is a trans.

661
00:23:49,952 --> 00:23:51,541
Unless you have all the other information. Yeah.

662
00:23:51,621 --> 00:23:52,575
The... And that's a fair point.

663
00:23:53,369 --> 00:23:55,459
He obviously didn't get the information from,

664
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:57,994
from the guy who... Got the clock called

665
00:23:57,994 --> 00:23:59,743
on. And and if he did, he only

666
00:23:59,743 --> 00:24:01,016
got the fact that this guy keeps calling

667
00:24:01,016 --> 00:24:03,083
the clock on me. Didn't hear from all

668
00:24:03,083 --> 00:24:04,594
of the other players or even the dealer

669
00:24:04,594 --> 00:24:06,343
that said, this guy been tanking to the

670
00:24:06,343 --> 00:24:08,025
point where got these players feel the need

671
00:24:08,025 --> 00:24:09,294
to call the clock. So they can actually

672
00:24:09,294 --> 00:24:11,674
get another hand to play. Right. So,

673
00:24:13,103 --> 00:24:15,299
yeah, again, a word to my colleagues of

674
00:24:15,419 --> 00:24:17,754
please do not make decisions based on incomplete

675
00:24:17,812 --> 00:24:17,892
information.

676
00:24:20,285 --> 00:24:21,880
You're you're gonna make it too easy for

677
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,555
people to shoot angles that way. You you

678
00:24:23,555 --> 00:24:25,285
just... You gotta get the whole stored

679
00:24:25,644 --> 00:24:26,763
I know you don't wanna hold up the

680
00:24:26,763 --> 00:24:28,202
tables. You don't wanna hold up the tournament.

681
00:24:28,361 --> 00:24:29,181
You don't wanna

682
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,038
act like the acquisition. You pull out the

683
00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:33,636
fluffy pillows in the country chair. You don't

684
00:24:33,636 --> 00:24:34,755
wanna do that. I know that.

685
00:24:35,728 --> 00:24:36,467
But sometimes

686
00:24:36,924 --> 00:24:38,041
if a guy being targeted,

687
00:24:40,194 --> 00:24:41,630
you gotta get more to the story. I

688
00:24:41,630 --> 00:24:43,225
mean, if the guy is really being target,

689
00:24:43,465 --> 00:24:44,581
you gotta go out of your way to

690
00:24:44,581 --> 00:24:44,820
protect them.

691
00:24:46,032 --> 00:24:47,650
But if he's ins indicating

692
00:24:48,506 --> 00:24:49,725
and prop,

693
00:24:50,741 --> 00:24:52,337
you gotta do something about that too, and

694
00:24:52,337 --> 00:24:54,505
that's much more important. The fact that he

695
00:24:54,505 --> 00:24:55,005
was

696
00:24:55,381 --> 00:24:57,931
taking all of the time that was available

697
00:24:57,931 --> 00:25:00,401
to him before actually making his action though.

698
00:25:00,894 --> 00:25:02,492
I feel like that should have been some

699
00:25:02,492 --> 00:25:03,552
kind of a clue

700
00:25:03,931 --> 00:25:06,328
to the tournament director as well. So

701
00:25:06,967 --> 00:25:08,566
Turn the director only sees what happens when

702
00:25:08,566 --> 00:25:10,334
he's called to the table. He sees the

703
00:25:10,334 --> 00:25:12,951
guy. He doesn't know anything that happened prior

704
00:25:12,951 --> 00:25:15,172
to his appearing at the table and finding

705
00:25:15,172 --> 00:25:17,076
out that a player has had the clock

706
00:25:17,076 --> 00:25:19,720
call in him. 3 consecutive betting rounds. That's

707
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,118
all he knows.

708
00:25:20,916 --> 00:25:22,672
And if he doesn't find out more, that's

709
00:25:22,672 --> 00:25:24,667
always he's gonna act on. And if that's

710
00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:26,357
what he's acting on, obviously, the guy call

711
00:25:26,357 --> 00:25:27,633
in the clock is the 1 doing with

712
00:25:27,633 --> 00:25:30,765
targeting. Right. So, yeah, It's a bad situation

713
00:25:30,983 --> 00:25:32,259
made worse by that decision.

714
00:25:33,855 --> 00:25:34,913
Because now you're giving

715
00:25:37,301 --> 00:25:38,679
the guy who's tanking

716
00:25:39,297 --> 00:25:41,872
licensed to tank even more, and you're

717
00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:43,948
telling the rest of the field

718
00:25:44,486 --> 00:25:44,986
that

719
00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:48,579
their ability to speak up and or do

720
00:25:48,579 --> 00:25:50,179
something about this has been taken away.

721
00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:51,400
So

722
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,200
I guess the the

723
00:25:54,994 --> 00:25:57,550
lessons here are both for the player and

724
00:25:57,550 --> 00:26:00,905
the tournament directors, you you already said to

725
00:26:00,905 --> 00:26:01,545
your colleagues.

726
00:26:02,037 --> 00:26:03,172
Make sure you're getting,

727
00:26:03,942 --> 00:26:04,736
all of the picture.

728
00:26:05,688 --> 00:26:06,188
And

729
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,728
to the players don't assume

730
00:26:09,181 --> 00:26:12,157
that the tournament directors have all of that

731
00:26:12,293 --> 00:26:14,916
information. So, you know, it has to be

732
00:26:14,916 --> 00:26:17,460
a a communication, not just a 1 sided

733
00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:20,335
talk at kind of situation. So That is

734
00:26:20,414 --> 00:26:22,081
Very true. See something, say something.

735
00:26:22,636 --> 00:26:23,192
As a player,

736
00:26:23,985 --> 00:26:25,334
you gotta get up from the table and

737
00:26:25,334 --> 00:26:26,683
talk to the Tv and say, look, listen.

738
00:26:27,335 --> 00:26:28,454
Let me tell you what's happening. If you

739
00:26:28,454 --> 00:26:29,654
wanna talk to the other players. You wanna

740
00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:30,934
find out from the dealer, but I'm telling

741
00:26:30,934 --> 00:26:32,295
you now, this is happening.

742
00:26:32,855 --> 00:26:34,055
I've had to do that. I mean shoot.

743
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:36,308
Back in April when I was in Reno,

744
00:26:36,707 --> 00:26:38,885
there was AAA fairly green dealer

745
00:26:39,744 --> 00:26:39,983
who

746
00:26:40,942 --> 00:26:42,780
if who just wasn't going through the entire

747
00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:44,632
shuffle proceed. They didn't have shuffle machines on

748
00:26:44,632 --> 00:26:45,989
every single table. There's a pretty large term

749
00:26:45,989 --> 00:26:48,463
in room. And the Reno doesn't have a

750
00:26:48,463 --> 00:26:49,900
whole lot of major tournaments. So they're not

751
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,417
gonna have shuffle machines on every table. They

752
00:26:51,417 --> 00:26:53,108
have to hand shuffle. Right. Major and she

753
00:26:53,108 --> 00:26:54,944
wasn't making it through the shuffle procedures. She

754
00:26:54,944 --> 00:26:56,780
was paying attention. She was keeping the game

755
00:26:56,780 --> 00:26:57,019
moving,

756
00:26:57,818 --> 00:27:00,691
but she wasn't shuffling correctly. And the cards...

757
00:27:01,664 --> 00:27:03,415
We're we're starting to clump in a way

758
00:27:03,415 --> 00:27:04,690
that they were almost coming up the same

759
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:05,167
order every time.

760
00:27:06,442 --> 00:27:07,477
So I brought it up to the Tv.

761
00:27:07,716 --> 00:27:09,468
She thought I mentioned something else, and it's

762
00:27:09,468 --> 00:27:09,786
like, no.

763
00:27:10,758 --> 00:27:13,551
I think you're not shuffling correctly. And I

764
00:27:13,551 --> 00:27:14,450
noticed that

765
00:27:15,307 --> 00:27:17,142
when she finally got up the tournament regular

766
00:27:17,142 --> 00:27:18,912
up door or took to the side, and

767
00:27:18,912 --> 00:27:20,505
the very next table, she was shuffling correctly.

768
00:27:20,824 --> 00:27:22,894
So again, you gotta speak up.

769
00:27:24,249 --> 00:27:26,160
If it does nothing, it does nothing, but

770
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,275
you're still obligated to...

771
00:27:27,929 --> 00:27:29,285
Protect yourself and the rest of the players.

772
00:27:30,243 --> 00:27:31,041
Right. So,

773
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,159
Andy,

774
00:27:33,197 --> 00:27:35,911
at lesson learned here I hope, and thank

775
00:27:35,911 --> 00:27:38,002
you. For sending that in because it's a

776
00:27:38,002 --> 00:27:40,240
great... It really is a great discussion. That's

777
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,237
a good conversation, then it's a worthwhile top.

778
00:27:42,397 --> 00:27:43,036
Thanks, Andy.

779
00:27:43,596 --> 00:27:43,835
Yeah.

780
00:27:44,568 --> 00:27:46,635
And if anyone has a call the floor

781
00:27:46,635 --> 00:27:47,668
that they would like to know how El

782
00:27:47,668 --> 00:27:49,893
elite would rule, send it to podcast podcasts

783
00:27:49,893 --> 00:27:51,483
at any at magazine dot com.

784
00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:54,210
Elliott, we'll do it again next week.

785
00:27:54,928 --> 00:27:56,045
Looking forward to it. Thanks.

786
00:27:59,398 --> 00:28:01,647
Let's break it down with... Hand of the

787
00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:01,886
week.

788
00:28:05,792 --> 00:28:07,785
We are back with another hand of the

789
00:28:07,785 --> 00:28:08,024
week.

790
00:28:08,742 --> 00:28:09,141
Patrick.

791
00:28:09,712 --> 00:28:11,221
How are you doing, man? We are back.

792
00:28:11,379 --> 00:28:13,681
I'm good, man. How are? I'm good. I'm

793
00:28:13,681 --> 00:28:15,134
good. Hey, Listen. Just

794
00:28:15,745 --> 00:28:18,047
so you know. Boston is...

795
00:28:19,099 --> 00:28:20,460
In the wild right now.

796
00:28:21,259 --> 00:28:22,779
A half a game. And you know who's

797
00:28:22,779 --> 00:28:25,359
right behind us? A half a game ahead

798
00:28:25,419 --> 00:28:27,394
of the Kansas City Royals

799
00:28:27,834 --> 00:28:29,752
So at this point, right now, it looks

800
00:28:29,752 --> 00:28:31,350
like you're spinning this wheel.

801
00:28:33,108 --> 00:28:35,746
Just if you are You are so excited

802
00:28:35,746 --> 00:28:37,991
when I told you that Boston was in

803
00:28:37,991 --> 00:28:40,531
the wild, and then I reminded you that

804
00:28:40,531 --> 00:28:42,913
you were gonna have to speak sleeve. The

805
00:28:42,913 --> 00:28:44,524
looked at hey mobile your face

806
00:28:46,262 --> 00:28:48,326
For everyone out there that's not watching and

807
00:28:48,326 --> 00:28:50,629
the just listening. That's exactly how it played

808
00:28:50,629 --> 00:28:52,375
out because I literally was getting ready to

809
00:28:52,375 --> 00:28:54,458
run into a Boston rant. Of course, this

810
00:28:54,458 --> 00:28:56,235
is not a baseball

811
00:28:56,932 --> 00:28:59,167
podcast. It's a poker podcast. However,

812
00:28:59,725 --> 00:29:01,880
it's all things Boston to start with. So,

813
00:29:02,294 --> 00:29:03,967
Yeah. It just wipes right over the face.

814
00:29:04,365 --> 00:29:04,524
Yep.

815
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:07,391
Yeah. I forgot all about that, and that's,

816
00:29:07,471 --> 00:29:09,064
you know, you're you're absolutely right. And I

817
00:29:09,064 --> 00:29:10,418
think it's actually more than...

818
00:29:11,388 --> 00:29:12,818
I have... Oh, it is half again. We

819
00:29:12,818 --> 00:29:14,884
yeah we lost last night. Okay. Wow. Well,

820
00:29:15,123 --> 00:29:15,282
yeah.

821
00:29:16,394 --> 00:29:17,825
Anyway, I'll take I'll take us get into

822
00:29:17,825 --> 00:29:19,017
the lawn card to been wheel.

823
00:29:22,297 --> 00:29:24,392
Well, also, I wanna mention

824
00:29:25,247 --> 00:29:27,639
Jackpot Digital, you know, they're... They're our sponsor

825
00:29:27,639 --> 00:29:28,356
of hand of the week.

826
00:29:29,088 --> 00:29:31,309
Our got. And Yeah. Their tables are set

827
00:29:31,309 --> 00:29:33,688
up here. I went by 1 time. They

828
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:34,823
had just

829
00:29:35,433 --> 00:29:36,465
the table was full.

830
00:29:37,353 --> 00:29:39,894
And then later on at night, L and

831
00:29:39,974 --> 00:29:42,278
I were gonna jump on there and play,

832
00:29:42,436 --> 00:29:43,787
but it's been so busy. So we haven't

833
00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:45,614
had a chance to to do it yet,

834
00:29:45,773 --> 00:29:46,749
but that is

835
00:29:47,299 --> 00:29:49,859
definitely gonna happen. Well, we love hearing and

836
00:29:49,859 --> 00:29:51,299
the fact that they're busy because, you know,

837
00:29:51,539 --> 00:29:52,579
it's easy to play. It's fun to play.

838
00:29:52,899 --> 00:29:54,179
It is. So it's no brainer To get

839
00:29:54,179 --> 00:29:56,351
that 1. But Yeah. You can tell me

840
00:29:56,351 --> 00:29:58,186
what... How it is because I clearly have

841
00:29:58,186 --> 00:30:00,042
not experienced yeah either. So

842
00:30:00,579 --> 00:30:01,775
I'm looking forward to here hearing in the

843
00:30:02,014 --> 00:30:02,993
the the direct

844
00:30:03,370 --> 00:30:05,776
feedback. Yeah. What you get into. How much

845
00:30:05,776 --> 00:30:06,730
of may or may not win?

846
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:12,134
I am looking forward to it. Well, let's

847
00:30:12,134 --> 00:30:13,819
jump into this. We have a hand of

848
00:30:13,819 --> 00:30:16,523
the week that's sent in by Daryl Thompson.

849
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,136
Alright. And

850
00:30:18,511 --> 00:30:20,658
he says he's playing in a local tournament.

851
00:30:21,627 --> 00:30:22,923
And have about

852
00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:25,447
a hundred thousand ish in chips.

853
00:30:26,959 --> 00:30:29,187
Company says I'm fairly new to this type

854
00:30:29,187 --> 00:30:30,403
of tournament structure

855
00:30:30,793 --> 00:30:32,961
I've played in a friend's tournament game

856
00:30:33,335 --> 00:30:34,948
each week with no auntie

857
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,990
and a fairly quick structure.

858
00:30:38,038 --> 00:30:40,663
This is 30 minute blinds and a big

859
00:30:40,663 --> 00:30:41,697
blind anti,

860
00:30:42,731 --> 00:30:44,720
but I feel like I've adjusted okay.

861
00:30:45,847 --> 00:30:48,547
So... Alright. Yeah. See, Daryl, I I don't...

862
00:30:48,706 --> 00:30:50,477
I I mean, I have actually not

863
00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:52,677
played a tournament an official tournament.

864
00:30:53,328 --> 00:30:56,037
With big and. I'm just more in line

865
00:30:56,037 --> 00:30:58,108
with the quicker style just like he talks

866
00:30:58,108 --> 00:31:00,433
about. I'm not don't know how unfair. We'll

867
00:31:00,433 --> 00:31:01,786
have to find that out. But anyway. Yeah.

868
00:31:02,024 --> 00:31:03,377
I mean you're you're the same. You're you're

869
00:31:03,377 --> 00:31:04,752
used to that home game

870
00:31:05,207 --> 00:31:06,661
where it's really just

871
00:31:07,673 --> 00:31:10,707
no auntie probably Right? Yep. None. Just... Yeah.

872
00:31:10,945 --> 00:31:12,055
Well, in this hand,

873
00:31:13,404 --> 00:31:14,142
we have

874
00:31:14,673 --> 00:31:16,680
the blinds at 816

875
00:31:16,735 --> 00:31:17,053
hundred.

876
00:31:17,624 --> 00:31:19,059
With a 1600

877
00:31:19,059 --> 00:31:20,017
big blind anti.

878
00:31:20,654 --> 00:31:20,814
K.

879
00:31:21,851 --> 00:31:24,265
And it folds to us on the button

880
00:31:24,483 --> 00:31:26,977
and we have the king of Spade

881
00:31:27,368 --> 00:31:28,161
queen Spade.

882
00:31:28,796 --> 00:31:31,810
Very nice. King Spade queen spade on the

883
00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:33,396
button and falls to us. That's

884
00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:36,830
trying to make moves. Right? 100 percent. Yeah.

885
00:31:37,309 --> 00:31:38,745
Just, like start counting chips ships at this

886
00:31:38,745 --> 00:31:40,500
point, see how high we can go making

887
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:41,617
it's, you know, too too big.

888
00:31:42,908 --> 00:31:45,061
Yeah. I mean, that's that's a great started

889
00:31:45,061 --> 00:31:46,416
position. It's a great start in hands.

890
00:31:47,692 --> 00:31:48,431
I'm going

891
00:31:49,127 --> 00:31:49,845
4500.

892
00:31:51,613 --> 00:31:54,154
I I almost stopped you for a second

893
00:31:54,154 --> 00:31:54,711
to say,

894
00:31:56,855 --> 00:31:58,365
I think this is a position where you're

895
00:31:58,365 --> 00:31:59,556
gonna go higher than me.

896
00:32:00,928 --> 00:32:03,245
And is that an accurate statement still after

897
00:32:03,405 --> 00:32:04,364
I go 4500?

898
00:32:04,843 --> 00:32:05,243
It is.

899
00:32:06,042 --> 00:32:07,480
Why? Why would you not go big? What,

900
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,724
I mean, let... Alright. Well, you tell me

901
00:32:09,724 --> 00:32:10,224
what

902
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,577
where your ads

903
00:32:12,191 --> 00:32:13,464
money wise and then go from there.

904
00:32:14,578 --> 00:32:15,078
So

905
00:32:15,628 --> 00:32:18,014
I'm gonna go 2 and a half times

906
00:32:18,014 --> 00:32:20,957
the big blind. That's my standard. So I'll

907
00:32:20,957 --> 00:32:21,752
go 4000.

908
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:23,582
So not that much bigger.

909
00:32:24,154 --> 00:32:24,794
Yeah. You're right.

910
00:32:25,515 --> 00:32:26,015
So

911
00:32:27,034 --> 00:32:29,355
Daryl actually goes 4800.

912
00:32:29,994 --> 00:32:31,615
K. So he's in...

913
00:32:31,994 --> 00:32:33,194
Where you were at a little bit bigger

914
00:32:33,194 --> 00:32:33,515
than both.

915
00:32:34,409 --> 00:32:35,468
So it basically

916
00:32:35,927 --> 00:32:37,684
is that 43X?

917
00:32:38,004 --> 00:32:38,803
It's right at 3.

918
00:32:39,522 --> 00:32:39,762
Yeah.

919
00:32:40,481 --> 00:32:41,520
Yeah. And that's fine.

920
00:32:42,174 --> 00:32:44,174
Depending on where we're at in the tournament,

921
00:32:44,494 --> 00:32:45,474
I would go

922
00:32:46,174 --> 00:32:47,615
3X2

923
00:32:47,615 --> 00:32:49,234
and a half x and then just kinda

924
00:32:49,295 --> 00:32:50,095
bringing them down.

925
00:32:50,829 --> 00:32:52,108
As we go through the term.

926
00:32:53,306 --> 00:32:56,023
But so I think 3 x is fine,

927
00:32:56,982 --> 00:32:58,761
it folds to the big blind

928
00:32:59,633 --> 00:33:01,945
who raises to 19000.

929
00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:03,939
Well, that's just aggressive.

930
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:07,367
Okay. Well,

931
00:33:08,817 --> 00:33:10,570
And assuming then... And then it's seen that

932
00:33:10,570 --> 00:33:11,924
it comes all the way around us.

933
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,735
He's he does say that

934
00:33:16,003 --> 00:33:19,033
the big blind has 3 75,

935
00:33:19,671 --> 00:33:21,027
375000

936
00:33:21,027 --> 00:33:21,585
in their stack.

937
00:33:22,382 --> 00:33:24,057
So they've got us covered by a lot.

938
00:33:25,344 --> 00:33:25,821
They do.

939
00:33:27,170 --> 00:33:28,044
Well, I'm playing.

940
00:33:29,869 --> 00:33:31,695
So the question is, do we have a

941
00:33:31,695 --> 00:33:33,939
pissing contest before the they end or not.

942
00:33:36,251 --> 00:33:37,686
Yeah. I would like to know what the

943
00:33:37,686 --> 00:33:40,317
dynamics were before this. Right? Because if it's

944
00:33:40,317 --> 00:33:40,817
me

945
00:33:41,209 --> 00:33:42,562
and it folds to me, we've talked about

946
00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:44,074
this before. If it folds to me on

947
00:33:44,074 --> 00:33:45,746
the button, I'm raising.

948
00:33:46,462 --> 00:33:48,770
You're raising. Nearly 100 percent at the time.

949
00:33:49,104 --> 00:33:50,853
I'm raising. The the answer to that question

950
00:33:50,853 --> 00:33:52,841
is you're raising. Yeah. As long as there

951
00:33:52,841 --> 00:33:54,033
are chips in front of you to raise,

952
00:33:54,192 --> 00:33:56,895
you're raising. And I think III have started

953
00:33:56,895 --> 00:33:58,327
to adapt that style as well.

954
00:33:58,979 --> 00:34:01,454
If Daryl has raised from this spot before

955
00:34:01,454 --> 00:34:02,114
or if

956
00:34:02,571 --> 00:34:04,647
if the big blind might be thinking,

957
00:34:05,286 --> 00:34:08,080
he's just raising because he's on the button

958
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,534
and

959
00:34:09,610 --> 00:34:10,567
it folded to him,

960
00:34:11,602 --> 00:34:12,102
then

961
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:13,377
we can

962
00:34:14,471 --> 00:34:15,666
come back over the top,

963
00:34:17,196 --> 00:34:17,696
But

964
00:34:18,552 --> 00:34:20,626
if it's, you know, if if that's not

965
00:34:20,626 --> 00:34:21,764
the case, then

966
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:24,374
maybe we're looking at him having a real

967
00:34:24,374 --> 00:34:25,512
hand, and we've gotta

968
00:34:26,144 --> 00:34:27,043
maybe just

969
00:34:27,501 --> 00:34:29,896
reel it back. I'm not folding folding out

970
00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:30,535
of the question.

971
00:34:31,413 --> 00:34:31,652
No.

972
00:34:32,690 --> 00:34:34,447
It's too good of a hand to fold,

973
00:34:34,846 --> 00:34:35,346
but

974
00:34:36,295 --> 00:34:37,647
do we call or do we raise is

975
00:34:37,647 --> 00:34:40,431
the question? And I think I I call.

976
00:34:41,704 --> 00:34:43,628
I think I'm here. I I think I'm

977
00:34:43,628 --> 00:34:44,980
leaning toward the call as well.

978
00:34:46,014 --> 00:34:48,560
They could have some small pocket pairs, which

979
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,117
makes sense.

980
00:34:49,848 --> 00:34:52,160
Yeah. For them to do that or even

981
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,030
medium in that medium pocket pair. So, yeah,

982
00:34:55,268 --> 00:34:57,102
I'm just gonna call and see how the

983
00:34:57,102 --> 00:34:59,657
flop looks if we completely whiff on the

984
00:34:59,657 --> 00:35:01,267
flop, then we could

985
00:35:02,115 --> 00:35:03,463
still get away from it. We have plenty

986
00:35:03,463 --> 00:35:04,652
of chips. Yep.

987
00:35:06,413 --> 00:35:06,913
And

988
00:35:07,842 --> 00:35:09,907
that is what Daryl does to. He says,

989
00:35:10,067 --> 00:35:10,567
so

990
00:35:11,257 --> 00:35:13,243
I'm thinking we have 2 overs,

991
00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:15,666
and 2 broadway cards

992
00:35:16,597 --> 00:35:18,186
that are even suited to boot.

993
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,250
But we're going heads up

994
00:35:24,322 --> 00:35:27,580
to the flop with 38800,

995
00:35:28,136 --> 00:35:29,510
and the flop is

996
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,576
the 8 of diamonds

997
00:35:32,521 --> 00:35:33,656
jack of spade

998
00:35:34,664 --> 00:35:35,458
4 of hearts.

999
00:35:37,126 --> 00:35:37,944
Our villain

1000
00:35:38,794 --> 00:35:40,779
continues for 18000,

1001
00:35:41,588 --> 00:35:44,536
Well, we didn't completely with, but, it was

1002
00:35:44,536 --> 00:35:45,730
about as close to or a whip as

1003
00:35:45,730 --> 00:35:46,208
possible.

1004
00:35:47,084 --> 00:35:49,314
It's exactly what I was just thinking. We

1005
00:35:49,314 --> 00:35:51,158
didn't hit a thing, but... We have lots

1006
00:35:51,158 --> 00:35:53,063
of backdoor door possibilities. It's 1 of those

1007
00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:53,857
close situations.

1008
00:35:55,286 --> 00:35:57,190
Yeah. But any of those have to go

1009
00:35:57,190 --> 00:36:00,302
runner a runner. III

1010
00:36:00,302 --> 00:36:01,255
mean, I think we...

1011
00:36:02,446 --> 00:36:04,114
We have 2 over cards to that board.

1012
00:36:04,273 --> 00:36:05,385
So for sure.

1013
00:36:06,258 --> 00:36:07,847
Yeah. We don't have to run a runner

1014
00:36:07,847 --> 00:36:08,085
those.

1015
00:36:09,215 --> 00:36:11,695
For sure. You're absolutely right on that. But

1016
00:36:11,695 --> 00:36:13,375
if you make a on, you know, small

1017
00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:14,974
pocket pair, they've got us.

1018
00:36:16,585 --> 00:36:19,286
Right now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean... What... Alright.

1019
00:36:19,524 --> 00:36:21,589
So big wine comes in continues with the

1020
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:22,145
betting with what?

1021
00:36:23,177 --> 00:36:23,892
18000.

1022
00:36:25,181 --> 00:36:27,492
So it raises this 19 for pre flop,

1023
00:36:28,528 --> 00:36:30,839
and it comes in with 18000 now. I

1024
00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:33,722
don't understand the philosophy. However... I mean, it's

1025
00:36:33,722 --> 00:36:35,793
about... It's a little under half pot. Yeah.

1026
00:36:35,953 --> 00:36:37,227
It's just a little under half pot.

1027
00:36:45,289 --> 00:36:47,521
You don't wanna fold king king Queen spade,

1028
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,796
so I'm calling that.

1029
00:36:49,689 --> 00:36:52,406
Why? Why don't I wanna full king queen

1030
00:36:52,406 --> 00:36:55,043
spade? Because it's king queens Spade? I don't

1031
00:36:55,043 --> 00:36:55,203
know.

1032
00:36:56,162 --> 00:36:56,482
It's clear.

1033
00:36:57,281 --> 00:36:58,775
Made on board 8

1034
00:36:59,214 --> 00:36:59,714
jack

1035
00:37:00,173 --> 00:37:02,650
4 rings. When you put it that way,

1036
00:37:03,130 --> 00:37:04,328
it doesn't look quite as good.

1037
00:37:05,287 --> 00:37:06,965
When I'm looking down and I'm sitting at

1038
00:37:06,965 --> 00:37:08,338
the table and I'm looking at my cards

1039
00:37:08,338 --> 00:37:10,493
and I see king of spade, Queen Spade.

1040
00:37:11,211 --> 00:37:13,365
Yeah. You're you're probably right. I I think

1041
00:37:13,445 --> 00:37:14,264
I gut was

1042
00:37:15,774 --> 00:37:16,488
My gut is fault.

1043
00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:18,734
However, I could easily

1044
00:37:19,187 --> 00:37:21,568
depending on the moment and the scenario and

1045
00:37:21,568 --> 00:37:23,791
other things. I could easily see myself calling

1046
00:37:23,791 --> 00:37:24,187
as well.

1047
00:37:24,839 --> 00:37:26,277
But my gut sent me here right now

1048
00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:28,595
was full. That's why I hesitate. So... Well,

1049
00:37:28,835 --> 00:37:29,974
I... I'm

1050
00:37:30,673 --> 00:37:33,230
I'm asking the question because... Yeah. It is

1051
00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:35,885
a close. It is close. Yeah. I can

1052
00:37:35,885 --> 00:37:37,664
see you going either way, But

1053
00:37:38,844 --> 00:37:40,464
I'm I'm leaning toward

1054
00:37:41,418 --> 00:37:41,737
fold.

1055
00:37:43,172 --> 00:37:44,390
If they are ice

1056
00:37:44,927 --> 00:37:45,826
If they have

1057
00:37:46,203 --> 00:37:49,335
ace king or Ace queen, then

1058
00:37:49,713 --> 00:37:50,771
they have our outs

1059
00:37:52,277 --> 00:37:53,311
If they have pocket,

1060
00:37:53,788 --> 00:37:56,731
nines or sevens or sixes or even fives,

1061
00:37:58,259 --> 00:37:58,759
then

1062
00:37:59,136 --> 00:38:01,370
we've gotta hit something on the turn to

1063
00:38:01,370 --> 00:38:02,726
feel good about continuing.

1064
00:38:03,604 --> 00:38:04,083
If you...

1065
00:38:06,808 --> 00:38:08,959
If we chase these things too often then

1066
00:38:08,959 --> 00:38:11,906
we get ourselves in trouble. Right? Yep. If

1067
00:38:11,906 --> 00:38:13,578
it was a cash game, maybe I'd look

1068
00:38:13,578 --> 00:38:15,429
at it differently, but playing in a tournament,

1069
00:38:15,588 --> 00:38:17,506
and those chips are important.

1070
00:38:18,945 --> 00:38:19,445
So

1071
00:38:21,422 --> 00:38:23,580
some might say so is cash there, Joe,

1072
00:38:23,820 --> 00:38:23,954
We're

1073
00:38:26,235 --> 00:38:28,315
The point proven though. I mean, it's... You're

1074
00:38:28,315 --> 00:38:29,675
you're absolutely right. I mean, there's a, you

1075
00:38:29,675 --> 00:38:30,954
know, there's a finite number.

1076
00:38:31,845 --> 00:38:33,595
You, you know, you're you're your done in

1077
00:38:33,595 --> 00:38:35,209
that sense. And I think

1078
00:38:38,304 --> 00:38:39,902
I I wanna say I feel like I'm

1079
00:38:39,902 --> 00:38:41,101
being bullied,

1080
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:43,978
but I think I don't care at the

1081
00:38:43,978 --> 00:38:44,717
same point

1082
00:38:45,576 --> 00:38:46,076
because

1083
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:49,269
you know, I'm saving 18000 and ships when

1084
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:51,030
I'm only sitting on a hundred start his

1085
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:51,349
hand.

1086
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:53,989
Right. And that's the biggest thing is is...

1087
00:38:54,804 --> 00:38:56,391
Like I said, in a tournament, if you

1088
00:38:56,391 --> 00:38:58,455
get caught chasing these things too often,

1089
00:39:00,043 --> 00:39:02,106
then Yeah. You're out of the tournament. So...

1090
00:39:03,059 --> 00:39:03,297
Yeah.

1091
00:39:04,025 --> 00:39:05,928
And and I still I still feel like

1092
00:39:05,928 --> 00:39:06,428
they

1093
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,018
they could definitely have some kind of small

1094
00:39:09,018 --> 00:39:10,208
to medium pocket peer.

1095
00:39:11,414 --> 00:39:11,914
So

1096
00:39:13,652 --> 00:39:15,490
so I'm folding. What did you say you're

1097
00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:17,728
doing? Yeah. My gut was always folded, but

1098
00:39:17,728 --> 00:39:19,885
it was close. I mean, again, it's it's

1099
00:39:19,885 --> 00:39:20,285
more of a.

1100
00:39:21,337 --> 00:39:22,771
Motion is not the right word, but the

1101
00:39:22,771 --> 00:39:24,523
scenario, you know, a little bit more of

1102
00:39:24,523 --> 00:39:26,276
the the background of what the big ones

1103
00:39:26,276 --> 00:39:27,551
like, what we've seen so far.

1104
00:39:28,202 --> 00:39:29,629
May have played it may have swayed it

1105
00:39:29,629 --> 00:39:31,532
the other way, but my gut was always

1106
00:39:31,532 --> 00:39:31,690
folded.

1107
00:39:32,642 --> 00:39:32,801
Yeah.

1108
00:39:33,594 --> 00:39:34,466
But der calls.

1109
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:35,418
Okay.

1110
00:39:36,228 --> 00:39:36,728
And

1111
00:39:37,107 --> 00:39:39,262
there's 74800

1112
00:39:39,262 --> 00:39:41,199
in the pot now. So

1113
00:39:41,897 --> 00:39:42,636
the turn

1114
00:39:43,254 --> 00:39:44,771
is the king of hearts.

1115
00:39:46,773 --> 00:39:47,749
And the villain

1116
00:39:48,597 --> 00:39:50,977
bets another 18000.

1117
00:39:52,579 --> 00:39:54,098
So wait a minute. We were in for

1118
00:39:54,098 --> 00:39:55,157
what 19

1119
00:39:56,815 --> 00:39:57,714
plus another

1120
00:39:58,253 --> 00:39:58,493
18?

1121
00:39:59,532 --> 00:39:59,771
Yeah.

1122
00:40:00,491 --> 00:40:01,290
Well, you're in now.

1123
00:40:02,503 --> 00:40:04,339
Yeah. That's a terrible bet.

1124
00:40:05,057 --> 00:40:05,856
Yeah. It is.

1125
00:40:08,490 --> 00:40:10,566
I it... Okay. So there's there's...

1126
00:40:11,458 --> 00:40:12,811
2 schools of thought here. Right?

1127
00:40:13,766 --> 00:40:14,585
He's either

1128
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:16,630
betting low to keep us in?

1129
00:40:17,427 --> 00:40:20,132
Yes. Which it doesn't feel like that to

1130
00:40:20,132 --> 00:40:20,291
me.

1131
00:40:21,344 --> 00:40:21,844
Or

1132
00:40:22,545 --> 00:40:25,425
he's like, I wanna check, but I feel

1133
00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:26,964
like I have to keep betting

1134
00:40:27,344 --> 00:40:29,596
so he bets small. And that's what it

1135
00:40:29,596 --> 00:40:31,109
feels like to me. Yeah. I don't feel

1136
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:31,667
like it's

1137
00:40:32,623 --> 00:40:33,977
I don't feel like it's the the the

1138
00:40:33,977 --> 00:40:35,490
first 1. I don't think he's, you know,

1139
00:40:35,650 --> 00:40:37,402
bedding load to to keep us in to

1140
00:40:37,402 --> 00:40:37,880
keep going.

1141
00:40:39,815 --> 00:40:41,574
Clearly, we've showed that we're willing to play.

1142
00:40:42,295 --> 00:40:42,795
However,

1143
00:40:44,295 --> 00:40:46,635
I don't think... I mean, we've got what

1144
00:40:48,065 --> 00:40:49,739
sick... He said a hundred ish to start

1145
00:40:49,739 --> 00:40:51,172
with Arrowhead did, So we've got, you know,

1146
00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:53,801
60 ish to play with,

1147
00:40:54,534 --> 00:40:55,815
don't think you come over the top here

1148
00:40:55,815 --> 00:40:57,014
unless... I mean, at this point, or are

1149
00:40:57,014 --> 00:40:57,514
you

1150
00:40:57,974 --> 00:41:00,214
willing to go ahead and shove? Well, that's

1151
00:41:00,214 --> 00:41:01,914
what I was gonna say. Is

1152
00:41:02,295 --> 00:41:03,654
I'm either done with the hand.

1153
00:41:04,469 --> 00:41:05,906
Because I feel like he's trying to draw

1154
00:41:05,906 --> 00:41:07,045
us in or

1155
00:41:08,460 --> 00:41:11,734
I'm I'm raising. And, I I was thinking

1156
00:41:11,734 --> 00:41:13,864
we had, like, 40 ish, but 60 ish

1157
00:41:13,984 --> 00:41:15,255
whatever. Either way,

1158
00:41:15,891 --> 00:41:16,391
it's

1159
00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:18,514
less than a pot sized bet.

1160
00:41:19,388 --> 00:41:19,706
Yeah.

1161
00:41:20,342 --> 00:41:21,057
So it is.

1162
00:41:22,108 --> 00:41:23,465
I'm probably putting it in here.

1163
00:41:24,423 --> 00:41:24,582
Okay.

1164
00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:27,775
Yeah. I mean, playing this scenario, I I

1165
00:41:27,775 --> 00:41:29,371
feel like you're probably right to be honest

1166
00:41:29,371 --> 00:41:31,216
with you. I mean, Again, so let's just

1167
00:41:31,216 --> 00:41:32,487
say we fold after the flops to be

1168
00:41:32,487 --> 00:41:33,598
it. But now we're here,

1169
00:41:35,106 --> 00:41:37,329
yeah. I I think, I mean, we've got

1170
00:41:37,329 --> 00:41:38,520
kings. We've got top pair.

1171
00:41:39,808 --> 00:41:40,127
You know?

1172
00:41:41,244 --> 00:41:42,440
There's 2 hearts on the board.

1173
00:41:43,317 --> 00:41:43,557
Yeah.

1174
00:41:44,753 --> 00:41:47,226
I. It just it just feels like a

1175
00:41:47,226 --> 00:41:50,054
scared bet the 18000 this. So

1176
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:51,875
Daryl just calls.

1177
00:41:52,994 --> 00:41:53,234
Okay.

1178
00:41:54,514 --> 00:41:55,014
And

1179
00:41:56,529 --> 00:41:58,836
So there's a hundred and 10800

1180
00:41:58,836 --> 00:41:59,393
in the pot,

1181
00:42:00,666 --> 00:42:03,293
and the river is the 3 of Spade,

1182
00:42:04,247 --> 00:42:05,282
the villain shove.

1183
00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:06,890
Call...

1184
00:42:07,766 --> 00:42:08,961
Yeah. Yeah I mean you have to at

1185
00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:10,257
this point... There's

1186
00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:12,227
no choice. You have made it this far.

1187
00:42:13,038 --> 00:42:15,020
And I'm gonna take a stab. I I

1188
00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:16,843
don't... We don't know. I'm gonna take a

1189
00:42:16,843 --> 00:42:17,636
stab and say,

1190
00:42:18,746 --> 00:42:19,618
they're sitting on...

1191
00:42:20,983 --> 00:42:22,899
3 four's rates, and they take us down.

1192
00:42:23,617 --> 00:42:25,213
You got a call. I'm assuming Daryl did.

1193
00:42:25,452 --> 00:42:28,565
Yes? Daryl says, I paused for thought.

1194
00:42:29,856 --> 00:42:30,573
But call,

1195
00:42:31,769 --> 00:42:33,443
because if I don't, I'll be left with

1196
00:42:33,443 --> 00:42:36,314
a super short stack, and I have top

1197
00:42:36,314 --> 00:42:37,510
pair which could be good.

1198
00:42:38,399 --> 00:42:40,541
Villain shows pocket sevens,

1199
00:42:41,494 --> 00:42:43,557
and we take down a big pot. Okay.

1200
00:42:43,795 --> 00:42:45,796
Let me go on record. And if the

1201
00:42:45,796 --> 00:42:47,888
guy that played the big 1 is listening

1202
00:42:47,945 --> 00:42:49,617
my apologies. Guy or girl.

1203
00:42:50,811 --> 00:42:52,641
What stupid series of bets.

1204
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,591
I'm a novice. I'm not good at it

1205
00:42:57,591 --> 00:42:59,024
all the time. I'm bad at it a

1206
00:42:59,024 --> 00:43:00,854
lot of time. And there's probably times that

1207
00:43:00,854 --> 00:43:02,548
someone says the same to me, but

1208
00:43:03,099 --> 00:43:05,180
you're sitting on pocket sevens, and that's how

1209
00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:05,340
you...

1210
00:43:06,539 --> 00:43:07,980
I guess that's why the scared bed is.

1211
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:10,160
I mean, that... There's... After the

1212
00:43:10,793 --> 00:43:12,148
After turn, that's the scary bet.

1213
00:43:13,582 --> 00:43:15,335
Yeah. And that's 1 thing that I feel

1214
00:43:15,335 --> 00:43:15,835
like

1215
00:43:16,610 --> 00:43:19,239
people get into this habit sometimes they're feeling

1216
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,565
like they have to like, if they check

1217
00:43:21,565 --> 00:43:22,623
it's going to

1218
00:43:23,238 --> 00:43:25,013
show too much weakness and

1219
00:43:25,549 --> 00:43:27,701
they're gonna lose the hand because of it.

1220
00:43:28,755 --> 00:43:31,655
But sometimes it's okay to check and call

1221
00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:34,855
any action from somebody if you want. But

1222
00:43:35,804 --> 00:43:36,939
Apparently, after

1223
00:43:37,867 --> 00:43:40,487
daryl called, and they showed the sevens,

1224
00:43:41,043 --> 00:43:43,582
the villain immediately loses his mind,

1225
00:43:44,154 --> 00:43:47,271
and starts be me for playing the hand

1226
00:43:47,271 --> 00:43:47,751
badly.

1227
00:43:52,786 --> 00:43:53,585
No way.

1228
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:55,139
Yeah. So

1229
00:43:55,757 --> 00:43:58,154
daryl asks the question. Did I really play

1230
00:43:58,154 --> 00:44:00,711
it that wrong? The answer is no. You

1231
00:44:00,711 --> 00:44:02,564
did not play it that wrong and the

1232
00:44:02,564 --> 00:44:05,201
guy brady you is literally he looking at

1233
00:44:05,201 --> 00:44:07,278
himself in the mirror going and what idiot.

1234
00:44:07,438 --> 00:44:09,595
Why did I play pocket sevens this way?

1235
00:44:10,074 --> 00:44:12,880
Hung any vintage to you? Here's the thing.

1236
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:14,794
This is this is the great thing about

1237
00:44:14,873 --> 00:44:16,947
Poker. Right? There a million ways to win

1238
00:44:16,947 --> 00:44:17,903
or lose a hand.

1239
00:44:18,541 --> 00:44:18,860
Sure.

1240
00:44:19,432 --> 00:44:20,703
I don't lost a boat little of chips

1241
00:44:20,703 --> 00:44:22,132
on that because I would've have played until

1242
00:44:22,132 --> 00:44:23,505
the turn and then or

1243
00:44:24,037 --> 00:44:25,307
at least of the flop, and then I

1244
00:44:25,307 --> 00:44:25,784
would folded it.

1245
00:44:27,307 --> 00:44:28,340
As poker players,

1246
00:44:29,056 --> 00:44:31,600
it's up to us to adjust to the

1247
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,100
style

1248
00:44:32,633 --> 00:44:34,303
of play of our opponents.

1249
00:44:35,495 --> 00:44:36,211
Hundred percent.

1250
00:44:37,022 --> 00:44:39,411
And conversely, it's up to our opponents to

1251
00:44:39,411 --> 00:44:41,184
adjust their style of play

1252
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,188
to us. So it just always drives me

1253
00:44:44,188 --> 00:44:44,688
crazy

1254
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,711
when you see somebody be somebody else's play,

1255
00:44:49,148 --> 00:44:51,142
shut your mouth, make a mental note,

1256
00:44:52,514 --> 00:44:53,014
and

1257
00:44:53,393 --> 00:44:53,893
adjust

1258
00:44:54,272 --> 00:44:54,772
because

1259
00:44:55,151 --> 00:44:57,069
if they played it badly, which I don't

1260
00:44:57,069 --> 00:44:59,147
think Daryl, you played it complete... You played

1261
00:44:59,147 --> 00:45:00,506
it a little bit different than I would,

1262
00:45:00,666 --> 00:45:02,118
but I don't think you played it badly.

1263
00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:05,540
But if you think that they played it

1264
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:08,427
badly, adjust, keep your mouth shut and

1265
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,324
hope that they make the same mistakes. Badly

1266
00:45:11,842 --> 00:45:13,992
Yeah. Absolutely. You don't want them to change

1267
00:45:13,992 --> 00:45:15,664
the game. Hey, This is not a base...

1268
00:45:15,824 --> 00:45:17,815
This is not a baseball podcast, but from

1269
00:45:17,815 --> 00:45:19,248
the Billy Bean movie,

1270
00:45:20,299 --> 00:45:21,815
Billy bean, quote, adapter die.

1271
00:45:22,693 --> 00:45:23,731
There you go. Yeah.

1272
00:45:24,449 --> 00:45:27,003
You know what? Money ball. Adapter die, and

1273
00:45:27,003 --> 00:45:28,440
we gotta do that on a regular basis.

1274
00:45:28,854 --> 00:45:30,771
We're sitting at different tables. We're playing different

1275
00:45:30,771 --> 00:45:33,088
games. We're playing with different opponents 1 more

1276
00:45:33,088 --> 00:45:34,925
time. My adapter die. Well, Done Darrell.

1277
00:45:36,774 --> 00:45:39,241
That was like, a big pot to to

1278
00:45:39,241 --> 00:45:40,992
get going when... I mean, it had to

1279
00:45:40,992 --> 00:45:43,141
be somewhat early in the tournament, I guess,

1280
00:45:43,795 --> 00:45:44,914
Unless I guy I took down a big

1281
00:45:44,914 --> 00:45:46,055
pot early, but

1282
00:45:46,434 --> 00:45:48,515
that's that's a hefty stack to go running

1283
00:45:48,515 --> 00:45:49,155
through the tournament.

1284
00:45:49,635 --> 00:45:50,594
Hopefully did well. Yeah.

1285
00:45:51,489 --> 00:45:52,924
Yeah. And just keep in mind. Most of

1286
00:45:52,924 --> 00:45:54,380
the time when a person's

1287
00:45:55,794 --> 00:45:57,388
be braid the way that you played it.

1288
00:45:57,627 --> 00:45:59,461
Usually, it's somebody that thinks that they...

1289
00:46:00,034 --> 00:46:01,469
Are better than they really are.

1290
00:46:02,188 --> 00:46:02,688
And

1291
00:46:03,144 --> 00:46:05,298
so they be rate the other players,

1292
00:46:05,936 --> 00:46:08,568
but whatever. Yeah. Exactly. That guy sitting there,

1293
00:46:08,807 --> 00:46:11,059
and he's looking you, but in this mod

1294
00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,460
he's got a mirror going, what did I

1295
00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:14,260
just do?

1296
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:18,353
Anyway, Daryl, at Great job. I'm glad you

1297
00:46:18,353 --> 00:46:20,831
took that down, and thanks for sending it

1298
00:46:20,831 --> 00:46:21,949
in for sure.

1299
00:46:22,669 --> 00:46:24,587
If anybody else has a hand of the

1300
00:46:24,587 --> 00:46:26,106
week that they would like, Patrick and I

1301
00:46:26,106 --> 00:46:26,665
to break down.

1302
00:46:27,396 --> 00:46:29,303
Send it to podcast podcasts at any at

1303
00:46:29,303 --> 00:46:30,257
magazine dot com.

1304
00:46:31,130 --> 00:46:31,449
Patrick.

1305
00:46:32,879 --> 00:46:34,884
Let's do this again next week. That sounds

1306
00:46:34,884 --> 00:46:36,802
good. You guys have a blast out there,

1307
00:46:37,441 --> 00:46:39,119
Daryl, Thanksgiving again. And we'll we'll see you

1308
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:39,679
guys next week.

1309
00:46:41,597 --> 00:46:42,416
Thanks stop

1310
00:46:42,796 --> 00:46:43,195
toes.

1311
00:46:49,672 --> 00:46:53,022
Coke and alcohol are this combination that as

1312
00:46:53,022 --> 00:46:53,762
old as

1313
00:46:54,472 --> 00:46:56,461
the first sal balloon. I've had a drink

1314
00:46:56,461 --> 00:46:58,688
or 2 at the tables. Sometimes it's good

1315
00:46:58,688 --> 00:47:00,837
to loosen up a little. Take their off.

1316
00:47:01,649 --> 00:47:03,966
Sometimes it's just because I'm out to have

1317
00:47:03,966 --> 00:47:04,685
a great time.

1318
00:47:05,963 --> 00:47:08,461
But crossing the line in the Tips territory,

1319
00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:11,956
can turn your poker into a disaster.

1320
00:47:13,863 --> 00:47:16,088
It's always gonna start innocently enough,

1321
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:18,180
but poker games are long,

1322
00:47:18,820 --> 00:47:21,460
and that 1 drink can quickly become 2,

1323
00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:22,740
then 3,

1324
00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:24,980
then you're on a first name basis with

1325
00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:25,640
the bartender.

1326
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,733
Before you know it, you're well on your

1327
00:47:28,733 --> 00:47:29,686
way to slash bill.

1328
00:47:31,194 --> 00:47:32,147
And your reactions,

1329
00:47:32,861 --> 00:47:35,659
they aren't what they are when it's sober

1330
00:47:35,659 --> 00:47:35,898
you.

1331
00:47:36,777 --> 00:47:38,955
While we're not playing a game

1332
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:42,070
that's requires panther like reflex

1333
00:47:42,462 --> 00:47:44,927
something as simple as stacking chips becomes a

1334
00:47:44,927 --> 00:47:45,324
problem.

1335
00:47:46,438 --> 00:47:49,380
Your once tidy chips are now the leaning

1336
00:47:49,380 --> 00:47:50,890
tower of dirty stacks.

1337
00:47:52,419 --> 00:47:54,017
Every time you try to fix it too,

1338
00:47:54,337 --> 00:47:56,355
it ends up with this colorful landslide,

1339
00:47:58,093 --> 00:47:58,812
and bluff.

1340
00:47:59,371 --> 00:48:01,050
I mean, this is an art form people,

1341
00:48:02,102 --> 00:48:03,720
add a alcohol and suddenly

1342
00:48:04,257 --> 00:48:05,853
your Oscar worthy performance.

1343
00:48:06,811 --> 00:48:09,046
It looks more like a bad high school

1344
00:48:09,046 --> 00:48:09,285
play.

1345
00:48:11,291 --> 00:48:14,975
You either overdo the exaggerated gestures or it's

1346
00:48:15,748 --> 00:48:19,012
just too hard to tell a consistent story.

1347
00:48:20,221 --> 00:48:21,972
After a few too many drinks,

1348
00:48:23,007 --> 00:48:24,997
your memory also turns into a sieve.

1349
00:48:26,509 --> 00:48:27,226
You're like, wait.

1350
00:48:28,035 --> 00:48:28,670
Who raised?

1351
00:48:30,735 --> 00:48:31,370
What's the bet?

1352
00:48:32,164 --> 00:48:32,879
Is it my turn?

1353
00:48:33,673 --> 00:48:35,737
All of a sudden, now you're slowing the

1354
00:48:35,737 --> 00:48:36,373
game down.

1355
00:48:37,264 --> 00:48:37,742
And also,

1356
00:48:38,301 --> 00:48:41,095
alcohol lowers your inhibition and it heighten your

1357
00:48:41,095 --> 00:48:41,734
emotions too.

1358
00:48:42,692 --> 00:48:44,927
A bad beat that would normally just elicit

1359
00:48:44,927 --> 00:48:45,565
a sigh,

1360
00:48:46,459 --> 00:48:49,096
Now has you feeling like you've been mortally

1361
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wounded somehow?

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Conversely,

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winning a small pot might seem like you

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just won a bracelet.

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Poker is enough of a roller coaster in

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and of itself. Don't help make those swings

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more dramatic.

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Also,

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alcohol can make you a little more generous,

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which, hey, that can be a good thing

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too. But

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There is such a thing as too generous.

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The rake is hard enough to beat. So

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when you start tipping the dealer like you're

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handing out candy,

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it might be time to cut back.

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Look, the dealer thinks you and and

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I definitely don't wanna take money out of

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00:49:29,868 --> 00:49:31,275
a dealer pocket, but

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you're dwindling stack

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may say otherwise.

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And also, I'm not telling you not to

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drink. What I'm saying is

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When you sit down at the poker table,

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moderation is key.

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With anything, really, but especially the drinks.

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Keep it light,

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stay sharp

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and save the heavy drinking when you're celebrating

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your big win.

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Out cheers to that.

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That's today's 1 hour,

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and that's today's show.

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I'll see you next week 18.

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And until then,

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I'll see you at the tables.

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