A Scream That Shook His Chest | When The Woods Came Alive | Bigfoot and The Brown Mountain Mystery

<v Speaker 1>In this episode of Sasquatch Theory, I sit down with
<v Speaker 1>Chris from North Carolina and now doorsman, who set out
<v Speaker 1>to discover if Bigfoot truly exists. What he found in
<v Speaker 1>the swamps and mountains of the Carolinas would change everything
<v Speaker 1>he thought he knew about the wilderness, from glowing orbs
<v Speaker 1>to chest shaking screams in the dark. Stay tuned. This
<v Speaker 1>is one you won't forget. If you have a Bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>encounter that you would like to share with me here
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<v Speaker 1>calming down below. With all that being said, let's dive
<v Speaker 1>into Chris's encounters from the state of North Carolina. All right, Chris,
<v Speaker 1>welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>I am doing phenomenal. Miguel, I am doing absolutely wonderful.
<v Speaker 2>Great to speak with you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a pleasure to finally have you on the show, Chris,
<v Speaker 1>and if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my name is Chris Collins. I live in the
<v Speaker 2>southern central art of North Carolina, and over the past
<v Speaker 2>year I have dedicated myself to learning the art or
<v Speaker 2>trade of becoming a bigfoot researcher. I'll kind of start
<v Speaker 2>from the very beginning, and that was, you know, just
<v Speaker 2>like most people I had, I always had a desire
<v Speaker 2>to learn more about sasquatch or bigfoot as a young boy,
<v Speaker 2>you know, watched the older shows and never dismissed it.
<v Speaker 2>I always thought, yeah, there absolutely could be that possibility
<v Speaker 2>that they're out there and they exist and there's more
<v Speaker 2>to it than just hearsay. And so I'm an older guy,
<v Speaker 2>I'm semi retired. I'm sixty years old, and I've been
<v Speaker 2>in construction all my life, self employed, and I'd been
<v Speaker 2>having some health issues over the last two years, mainly
<v Speaker 2>from wearing tear on my body from just being so
<v Speaker 2>physical and so involved for so long, and started having
<v Speaker 2>some health issues and I wasn't feeling very well I
<v Speaker 2>found myself on the couch one day, not being able
<v Speaker 2>to get up and down very easily with my back,
<v Speaker 2>and then my knee cap was bothering me, and so
<v Speaker 2>I sat around for a week or so trying to
<v Speaker 2>trying to improve. And as I'm sitting around, I somehow
<v Speaker 2>another got gout in my feet and that basically left
<v Speaker 2>me bedridden or couch ridden. I couldn't walk, I couldn't
<v Speaker 2>do anything. I was completely miserable. And after sitting around
<v Speaker 2>for another few days, I just said a prayer. I
<v Speaker 2>said open com I had an open conversation with God,
<v Speaker 2>and I said, please God, I'm at the lowest place
<v Speaker 2>in my life right now, and I need something positive
<v Speaker 2>to into it. And I said, I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>that positive is. I'm going to let you dictate that,
<v Speaker 2>but just so you know, I'm ready for it. I
<v Speaker 2>need it. I need it badly. And as I was
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, I happened to have YouTube on and there
<v Speaker 2>was a I was watching a show here or there.
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of sporadically, and it just so happened there
<v Speaker 2>was a show on. There was a guy out in
<v Speaker 2>the woods who was from North Carolina and his name
<v Speaker 2>was Tien dials and I looked at him, and I
<v Speaker 2>looked at the show that he was on, and it's
<v Speaker 2>like a light bulb went off. It's like something on
<v Speaker 2>the inside of me basically screamed out. You have to
<v Speaker 2>meet this guy. You have to have a conversation with him.
<v Speaker 2>Regardless of whether it's where going to take you or
<v Speaker 2>what you're going to do with it, you have to
<v Speaker 2>meet him. So that evening, when my wife returned from work,
<v Speaker 2>I said, honey, I got a job for you, and
<v Speaker 2>I said, with your help, can you please put me
<v Speaker 2>in touch with this gentleman. I don't know who he is.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about him other than the fact
<v Speaker 2>that I think he's completely honest. I think he's straightforward,
<v Speaker 2>and I think he's sincere and he's I told my wife,
<v Speaker 2>I said, are you are you hanging on to your
<v Speaker 2>seat because he looks for Bigfoot. Well my wife was shocked,
<v Speaker 2>to say the least, but she's like, Okay, so this
<v Speaker 2>is your next adventure. I'm like, no, it's a little
<v Speaker 2>different than that. I just I know nothing is ever
<v Speaker 2>going to become of it, but I just want to
<v Speaker 2>go out before I die, and I want to see
<v Speaker 2>if I can find a footprint, or I want to
<v Speaker 2>see if I can speak with someone on a personal
<v Speaker 2>level who's actually done this, who knows that they're for real,
<v Speaker 2>who's believable. And she said, I'll put you in touch
<v Speaker 2>with him. Within about twenty four hours, my wife had
<v Speaker 2>already established an email address to mister Deals and they
<v Speaker 2>had gone back and forth, asking a question here or there,
<v Speaker 2>and it just so happened that he turns out to
<v Speaker 2>be one of the most sincere and god fear and
<v Speaker 2>men you'll ever meet. And my son was graduating from
<v Speaker 2>college and him's not located near me, up in the
<v Speaker 2>upper mountains of western North Carolina and Franklin, which is
<v Speaker 2>about a three and a half four hour drive for me.
<v Speaker 2>I said, well I need. He agreed to meet with
<v Speaker 2>me and sit down and just talk to me one
<v Speaker 2>on one, very personal. So when my son was graduating college,
<v Speaker 2>I threw that date out as a potential meet date.
<v Speaker 2>I said, we're going to be over in your area.
<v Speaker 2>Do you think you could pull away for thirty minutes
<v Speaker 2>for a cup of coffee and just kind of explain
<v Speaker 2>to me what's going on. And oddly enough, he did.
<v Speaker 2>He drove an extra hour and twenty minutes sat down
<v Speaker 2>with me. We had a couple couple cups of coffee,
<v Speaker 2>and we talked about everything, and I started, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it was just I was bitting at that point. I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sold. I now have a new hobby. I now
<v Speaker 2>have something I feel like I can just at least
<v Speaker 2>venture into with an open mind. And Tim had invited
<v Speaker 2>me over to a local Bigfoot festival that they have
<v Speaker 2>near him a month later, and I made the track
<v Speaker 2>back up there and I met with Tim there at
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot Festival in Mary in North Carolina. Beautiful town, beautiful, little,
<v Speaker 2>quaint town. And he said, well, while I'm up here,
<v Speaker 2>I would like to introduce you to a couple of
<v Speaker 2>the guys who we we go out and research with.
<v Speaker 2>And so he introduced me to see Bob Trent and
<v Speaker 2>Dwight Campbell and I sat around and chatted with them
<v Speaker 2>for just a moment and immediately felt comfortable. And I
<v Speaker 2>kept asking the question. I was like, I was like,
<v Speaker 2>is there any possible way on an off evening when
<v Speaker 2>nobody else is joining you guys, could I sit in
<v Speaker 2>and go out with you? Well, I'm a you know,
<v Speaker 2>a fifty year hunter fisherman trapper, lived in the woods,
<v Speaker 2>growing up, raised bird dogs, raised a duck, hunted, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you name it. I'm just a woodsman type of guy
<v Speaker 2>and loved the outdoors and knew if I took up
<v Speaker 2>another hobby it was going to have to relate to
<v Speaker 2>an outdoor activity. Well, these two fall hand in hand.
<v Speaker 2>And as I was as I was meeting these guys
<v Speaker 2>over at the Bigfoot Festival, I don't know why, but
<v Speaker 2>for some reason they either looked down upon me and
<v Speaker 2>felt sorry for me and what have you, but they
<v Speaker 2>invited me to go out on an expedition with them,
<v Speaker 2>and I went. We went to a research area here
<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina, about hour than forty five minutes from
<v Speaker 2>my from my house, and I sat out there with
<v Speaker 2>them and saw what they did, saw how they they
<v Speaker 2>handled their their outings, and I just kind of went
<v Speaker 2>along with the ride and said, you know, I'm just
<v Speaker 2>here to help support you. Whatever you need. I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to I'm not going to talk. I'm just going to
<v Speaker 2>sit here. Or if you want to ask me questions,
<v Speaker 2>please do so. Well. They it was back and forth
<v Speaker 2>the whole night long. We we all hit it off.
<v Speaker 2>We went out together we had a great evening, and
<v Speaker 2>they invited me back a second time, and from that
<v Speaker 2>point forward there there was no looking back for me.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, i have just now officially become a Sasquat's researcher,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to keep an open mind and I'm
<v Speaker 2>going to focus my energy and my passion, which this
<v Speaker 2>has turned into my passion. So I'm going to try
<v Speaker 2>to put energy and effort into my passion as long
<v Speaker 2>as I can, as hard as I can. So with
<v Speaker 2>that being said, I am twenty seven trips into it.
<v Speaker 2>This is a private group. They don't put a lot
<v Speaker 2>of information out on the internet for public display, but
<v Speaker 2>they've been doing this for over twelve years and they
<v Speaker 2>are extremely serious about what they do. They're also very
<v Speaker 2>critical of each other. They're critical of each other's findings.
<v Speaker 2>In case one guy goes out he hits one section
<v Speaker 2>of woods or forest and the other guy goes a
<v Speaker 2>different direction. We come back and we talk about it,
<v Speaker 2>and we talk about it in detail. What did you see?
<v Speaker 2>Did you find anything, any structures, any prints, any noises,
<v Speaker 2>any any smells, anything like that. So yeah, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>we cut up and we have a good time and
<v Speaker 2>we you know, banner back and forth, but at the
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, we are out there to get
<v Speaker 2>evidence and we you know, just like any researcher, that's
<v Speaker 2>not always a home run. And uh, there's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of trips that we go out and it's the perfect night,
<v Speaker 2>the perfect conditions. The leaves are not on the on
<v Speaker 2>the forest floor, so footprints are easily detectable, tree structure
<v Speaker 2>are more visible when the foliage is down, things like that,
<v Speaker 2>and so we're just constantly working towards advancing our mission,
<v Speaker 2>and that's to prove to the world that yes, they
<v Speaker 2>are real. Yes they've been here for a very very
<v Speaker 2>long time. I can say I don't foresee them going anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>And do I believe the government knows about them, Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>yes I do. There's no question in my mind that
<v Speaker 2>the government doesn't know everything about them. I think they
<v Speaker 2>know their habits. I think they know their eating habits
<v Speaker 2>or resting habits, how they either transport themselves or they
<v Speaker 2>move themselves from one location to the other. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>there's everyone's Everyone has their opinion, which which I'm glad
<v Speaker 2>I have my opinion, but my opinion of me being
<v Speaker 2>a one year old researcher is that of being very optimistic.
<v Speaker 2>I try to keep all my options open all the
<v Speaker 2>time of going well, it looks like this caused that
<v Speaker 2>to happen. However, I don't need to commit to that.
<v Speaker 2>I want to just kind of let it lie low,
<v Speaker 2>put some more thought into it. See what happens the
<v Speaker 2>next time we come down to the same area. See
<v Speaker 2>if I get the same results, See if there's a coincidence,
<v Speaker 2>or if they piggyback upon each other. And oddly enough,
<v Speaker 2>there's been piggybacking what I call piggybacking, or the same
<v Speaker 2>thing has occurred, maybe a little differently, but the same
<v Speaker 2>general thing can happen numerous times. Ah. My, my fellow researchers,
<v Speaker 2>they they pushed me to want to be as involved
<v Speaker 2>as possible. And I'm very fortunate. I'm very very fortunate
<v Speaker 2>because when we go out, we'll go out on a Friday.
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we'll return on Saturdays. Sometimes it's even longer. It
<v Speaker 2>just depends on the distance we traveled, and if there's
<v Speaker 2>activity in the woods. You know, I wanted to I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say number one that while I was on
<v Speaker 2>this couch and I was so sick and I was
<v Speaker 2>in such a low place in my life. Ah, you
<v Speaker 2>were an inspiration to me, Miguel. Your honesty and sincerity
<v Speaker 2>of how you approach sasquatch is it's admirable. It is
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's very admirable. I like the way you
<v Speaker 2>don't just go in, even though you've done this for
<v Speaker 2>numerous years and you've had numerous encounters down through your childhood.
<v Speaker 2>You don't talk down to people. You relate to the
<v Speaker 2>person that you're interviewing or meeting or squatching with. And
<v Speaker 2>I found that to be something that I wanted to
<v Speaker 2>set myself up as when, when and if I did
<v Speaker 2>ever get into a group of other researchers. And so yes,
<v Speaker 2>I look to you as a younger but definite role model.
<v Speaker 2>So well done to you, Miguel.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that.
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely. I had to say it, because I can
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent say, without a question, every show has
<v Speaker 2>been watched by me that you've produced, every show. Try
<v Speaker 2>to put myself to sleep at night with you on
<v Speaker 2>the television.
<v Speaker 1>But that's amazing. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 2>Man. I'm glad to glad to say it, glad to
<v Speaker 2>say it. So I guess I'll start off with a
<v Speaker 2>couple of things that have happened to me personally, and
<v Speaker 2>so I'd like to start off with the first. The
<v Speaker 2>first thing that I ran into when we were researching
<v Speaker 2>was completely pitch black. This was late June or mid
<v Speaker 2>mid June of last year, and we were out on
<v Speaker 2>location completely pitch black dark. It was about eleven thirty
<v Speaker 2>at night. And the way the way that these guys
<v Speaker 2>set their base camps up is that they run thermals
<v Speaker 2>in the evening and they also put out audio recorders
<v Speaker 2>that very similar to what you do, Miguel, but they
<v Speaker 2>put their their thermals up on a gimbal on a
<v Speaker 2>remote control gimbal on a tripod, and then we remotely
<v Speaker 2>view it with our laptops or our tablets or one
<v Speaker 2>of those two things. So it's basically a sitting position
<v Speaker 2>with a laptop screen in front of you and a
<v Speaker 2>remote control making the camera go in any direction that
<v Speaker 2>you see fit. And so there. Uh. Their their take
<v Speaker 2>on it is to basically act as normal and as
<v Speaker 2>welcoming as possible when you're in the woods. Uh, do
<v Speaker 2>not appear threatening in any way, shape or form. Ah
<v Speaker 2>Now mind you that does not mean that we do
<v Speaker 2>not carry a firearm. That firearm is there for protection
<v Speaker 2>against other creatures in the woods that could do bodily
<v Speaker 2>harmed us because they're they're black bear down here, copper heads.
<v Speaker 2>We caught a really nice sized bobcat on thermal the
<v Speaker 2>other night. Uh. We've we've caught mountain lions on thermal
<v Speaker 2>or it could have been a mountain lion or a panther,
<v Speaker 2>a black panther, not sure which one, but the heat
<v Speaker 2>signature came back that it was definitely large cat. And
<v Speaker 2>we found prints of large cats and things along those lines.
<v Speaker 2>So as we were out there on the uh, as
<v Speaker 2>we were out there at our at our base camp, uh,
<v Speaker 2>we're just chit chatting back and forth, and the evening
<v Speaker 2>was just completely calm. Uh. Insects weren't crazy. It was enjoyable.
<v Speaker 2>It was warm, but it was enjoyable. And uh, Dwight Campbell,
<v Speaker 2>who was the researcher to my left of me, I
<v Speaker 2>happened to see a light coming through the wood through
<v Speaker 2>the woods. Now, these are heavily wooded forests that we're in.
<v Speaker 2>There's a very heavy and there was a light that
<v Speaker 2>was coming through the forest and it was elevated. It
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a low it wasn't it wasn't low to the ground.
<v Speaker 2>It was more like fifteen to twenty feet in height.
<v Speaker 2>And as it was coming through the trees, it was zigzagging,
<v Speaker 2>and it was zigzagging in emotion to where it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>dropping up and down, but it was actually just maintaining
<v Speaker 2>a certain level. But it was kind of just going
<v Speaker 2>in between the trees in our direction, and it kept
<v Speaker 2>coming in our direction, and it was the size of
<v Speaker 2>possibly a tennis ball. It was not very large, and
<v Speaker 2>it came towards us, and as it came towards us,
<v Speaker 2>it stopped, almost as though we had surprised it, and
<v Speaker 2>it just froze. Then as soon as it froze over
<v Speaker 2>to the left hand side about three feet and stops.
<v Speaker 2>Then it jerks over to the left about five feet
<v Speaker 2>and stops, and then it started moving forward and it stopped,
<v Speaker 2>and then it just suddenly took off in the in
<v Speaker 2>the direction it was heading, and it disappeared out of sight,
<v Speaker 2>And I mean in the blink of an eye, that's
<v Speaker 2>how fast it happened. Well, this was the first time
<v Speaker 2>that I'd ever seen anything like this, nor had I
<v Speaker 2>heard about an ORB, so I did not know what
<v Speaker 2>to make of it at all. I'm like, did I
<v Speaker 2>finally spoke up and I said, did y'all see that?
<v Speaker 2>And Dwight very calmly said, yeah, that was an ORB.
<v Speaker 2>And I was sitting there for freaking out. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's lights that are moving in the woods
<v Speaker 2>out here while I'm on a Bigfoot expedition. This is weird.
<v Speaker 2>This is just weird, and this is something that can't
<v Speaker 2>be made up, and this is something that you know,
<v Speaker 2>there's got to there's there's got to be a truth
<v Speaker 2>to this somewhere. Uh that caused it to happen. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what caused it to happen, but it certainly
<v Speaker 2>did happen. And so after discussing with Light and Bob
<v Speaker 2>the other researcher, they're like, yeah, Chris, you're going to
<v Speaker 2>see those out here there. There there are balls of
<v Speaker 2>energy or there are balls of light, and they come
<v Speaker 2>in sometimes at the same time as you'll see a
<v Speaker 2>site I have a sighting, or you'll find prints, or
<v Speaker 2>you'll find tracks, or there's activity in the area. And
<v Speaker 2>for me not to be that shocked by it, but
<v Speaker 2>I was shocked by it the first time I saw it.
<v Speaker 2>Two weekends later, we were back at that exact same
<v Speaker 2>location and I was sitting beside another cryptozoologist at the time,
<v Speaker 2>a female from Canada, and we were having a discussion
<v Speaker 2>about paranormal or something cryptid, and I happened to look
<v Speaker 2>over in the general direction of where the word I
<v Speaker 2>saw last time, and sure enough, there was another white light.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, Robin, I said, do you see that?
<v Speaker 2>And she said, yeah, I see it. And I said,
<v Speaker 2>so you're seeing the light that i'm seeing, correct, She said, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the white one, very calmly, wasn't shocked by it. I said, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so you're agreeing with me that that is an ORB
<v Speaker 2>and she said absolutely, that's an ORB. Yeah, you just
<v Speaker 2>saw an ORB. And I went, well, why aren't y'all
<v Speaker 2>freaking out about this? Why aren't y'all excited? And you know,
<v Speaker 2>why isn't everybody jumping up and down, going yay, we've
<v Speaker 2>got evidence of something. And she's like, well, once you've
<v Speaker 2>seen them so often, you know, you just kind of
<v Speaker 2>assume they're going to be there if you're lucky enough
<v Speaker 2>to see it while you know you're paying attention and
<v Speaker 2>I went, okay, so I got the understanding about it now,
<v Speaker 2>and now I understand it to be. This is my
<v Speaker 2>take on it, and I could be totally wrong that
<v Speaker 2>it is an energetic field. There is there's energy, and
<v Speaker 2>there is uh, there's a cause and effect for it.
<v Speaker 2>What that cause and effect is, I'm not sure. I've speculated.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's the essence of a bigfoot. Maybe it's the
<v Speaker 2>essence of another creature, a dog man, something along those lines.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure. We mainly go out and focus
<v Speaker 2>our energy on bigfoot and bigfoot. Only if something else
<v Speaker 2>happens to, you know, come up while we're out there,
<v Speaker 2>that's great. We'll note it, we'll pay attention to it,
<v Speaker 2>we'll discuss it. But we're specifically, you know, going out
<v Speaker 2>to look for one, one thing, and one thing only.
<v Speaker 2>I can say down through the twelve years that my
<v Speaker 2>group has done this that they have collected numerous accounts
<v Speaker 2>of different types of evidence, whether structures, photographs of structures,
<v Speaker 2>photographs of prints, photographs, or videotape of daytime footage, citing
<v Speaker 2>nighttime footage with thermal cameras, some really really old stuff
<v Speaker 2>that just had infrared on it. But everything that we
<v Speaker 2>use now is with our thermals, and so that's kind
<v Speaker 2>of the format of the way that we watch. But
<v Speaker 2>what we will do is we will pick a spot
<v Speaker 2>that we can get there early enough in the afternoon,
<v Speaker 2>mid mid mid day, and we'll pick a direction that
<v Speaker 2>we all want to adventure through, you know, see if
<v Speaker 2>we could come up with anything, or some guys will
<v Speaker 2>go back and if they found a footprint a month
<v Speaker 2>or two ago or what have you, they'll they'll go
<v Speaker 2>their direction, and then I'll go my direction, and we
<v Speaker 2>all kind of split up, and then an hour or
<v Speaker 2>two later, you know, we'll all come back and discuss
<v Speaker 2>our findings and then always cook us a nice dinner
<v Speaker 2>and then either set our laptops up outside the tent
<v Speaker 2>or depend on weather, inside the tent and spend the
<v Speaker 2>rest of the night listening, watching, discussing. I think it's
<v Speaker 2>a great hobby and igh lid. I can tell most
<v Speaker 2>people that if you've never done something like this, that
<v Speaker 2>you'd have to be an outdoorsman or an outdoors person
<v Speaker 2>to really enjoy it, because, as you know, Miguel, the
<v Speaker 2>insects will carry you away at times, and the temperature
<v Speaker 2>changes and the weather's you know it's not always consistent,
<v Speaker 2>so you have to deal with all those elements. But
<v Speaker 2>to me, that's what makes it rewarding. And I've never
<v Speaker 2>gone into this thinking that today's the day we're going
<v Speaker 2>to see one. I've got way too many years of
<v Speaker 2>just regular hunting under my belt to have that premonition.
<v Speaker 2>Everything that I'm doing right now is and I keep
<v Speaker 2>saying this, but I can't stress it enough. I go
<v Speaker 2>into it with a open mind. I'm a blank sheet
<v Speaker 2>of paper on every bit of evidence that we find,
<v Speaker 2>and where that's going to lead us to is yet
<v Speaker 2>to be seen. So I don't know that much compared
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of the twenty thirty year old experts
<v Speaker 2>out there in the field, and I'm not going to
<v Speaker 2>negate their way of doing things. I've been taught how
<v Speaker 2>to do it by these by this group, the way
<v Speaker 2>they do it, the way it works for them, because
<v Speaker 2>they've got a proven track record that it does produce results,
<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent every time, but there's always going
<v Speaker 2>to be something noteworthy that can be taken away from it.
<v Speaker 2>And so since I started with these guys, I started
<v Speaker 2>a journal. At every trip we go out in I
<v Speaker 2>keep up with the weather, the relative humidity, how fast
<v Speaker 2>the wind's blowing, was the stars out that night, was
<v Speaker 2>it a clear evening? Every little detail that I can
<v Speaker 2>possibly remember about that trip, I try to write it
<v Speaker 2>down and then I see if there's any correlations later
<v Speaker 2>on between them, and then I share my findings with
<v Speaker 2>my guys and they do the same with me. And
<v Speaker 2>it's just been a wonderful, wonderful experience for myself. And
<v Speaker 2>I was completely taken aback when I started into this
<v Speaker 2>by the amount of how some researchers are so dedicated
<v Speaker 2>and so passionate, and then there are so many people
<v Speaker 2>out there who just want to make fun of us.
<v Speaker 2>They want to look at us like we should be
<v Speaker 2>in a padded room. We need a different med because
<v Speaker 2>the ones we're own certainly are not working. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>but I keep I keep asking everybody. I'm like, you know, uh,
<v Speaker 2>why couldn't this be real? With with what little bit
<v Speaker 2>the government has totally told us about things that are truthful?
<v Speaker 2>Why shouldn't we second guests basically everything we've been told
<v Speaker 2>growing up. And Uh, That's that's kind of where I
<v Speaker 2>want my mind to be at right now. I want
<v Speaker 2>it to just stay very open and very fluid so
<v Speaker 2>that I can take information in process it on my
<v Speaker 2>own make a semi conscious decision is this is this
<v Speaker 2>Is this a valid way of doing things? Or is
<v Speaker 2>this the way we're are we spending our time properly,
<v Speaker 2>utilizing every moment to try to get evidence, and seems
<v Speaker 2>to be working out pretty well. So I've seen I've
<v Speaker 2>seen orbs on two other occasions. One was another white
<v Speaker 2>ORB that came through at a different location from the
<v Speaker 2>first two. Not a lot was really noteworthy about it
<v Speaker 2>other than it was just a little a little ball
<v Speaker 2>of white light that kind of danced around in the
<v Speaker 2>tree line. And then the fourth incident that I saw
<v Speaker 2>another ORB, Bob and I had gone out one evening.
<v Speaker 2>It was just it was just the two of us
<v Speaker 2>and it was about one o'clock in the morning, and
<v Speaker 2>we were sitting looking at both of our laptops running
<v Speaker 2>our remote thermals. Dead quiet, nothing's in the woods, and
<v Speaker 2>we are well well well away from pedestrian traffic. There
<v Speaker 2>are no lights on out here in this part of
<v Speaker 2>the forest. There there are no lights at all, So
<v Speaker 2>where's the only light? We had was coming from the
<v Speaker 2>glare from our laptops. Okay, and that was very minimal.
<v Speaker 2>And so we're sitting there just chit chatting, and it
<v Speaker 2>goes quiet. And as it went quiet, I noticed how
<v Speaker 2>definitely quiet it got. It got very very quiet. And
<v Speaker 2>I looked over at Bob and I said, Bob, you
<v Speaker 2>do realize it just went head silent out here, right
<v Speaker 2>He goes, yeah, I got it. So we sit here
<v Speaker 2>and we are just as motionless as we can possibly be.
<v Speaker 2>The only thing we're moving is our thumb on our
<v Speaker 2>remote control, just keeping our keeping our cameras rolling, scanning
<v Speaker 2>the horizon, scanning the woodline, scanning what we can and
<v Speaker 2>UH had a rock thrown at us, landed right behind
<v Speaker 2>both of our chairs, and I asked Bob. I said, Bob,
<v Speaker 2>I think something just threw a rock at us. And
<v Speaker 2>he goes, that wasn't you, was it? And I said, no,
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't me. I'm sitting right here. That wasn't me.
<v Speaker 2>I know. More than got the words out of my mouth.
<v Speaker 2>Another rock was thrown and landed alongside the first one
<v Speaker 2>that was wrong, right behind us, and we were we
<v Speaker 2>were set up in an area that had some pretty
<v Speaker 2>heavy pine trees, not a lot of oaks or hardwood
<v Speaker 2>trees in that one area, so it was mainly pine
<v Speaker 2>needles that had fallen from the trees down through the years,
<v Speaker 2>so it had it was soft, and so the rocks
<v Speaker 2>were just laying right there on top of the pine needles.
<v Speaker 2>They were not there prior to this. And Bob said,
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to grab the rocks, and I said okay.
<v Speaker 2>So he steps up. He had his night light on
<v Speaker 2>his headlamp. He clicks it on, and he turns around
<v Speaker 2>and walks back behind me. And as he did, I
<v Speaker 2>happened to turn and watch him as he walked around
<v Speaker 2>to go back behind us. And as I turned around
<v Speaker 2>and looked, I happened to look up once again, twenty
<v Speaker 2>feet in the air. There was a light. This time
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't white. This time it was the most magnificent blue,
<v Speaker 2>like a I guess the best way for me to
<v Speaker 2>describe it would be a medium satin colored is like
<v Speaker 2>a satin It wasn't shiny, and it wasn't dull, but
<v Speaker 2>it was satin like a Christmas ornament. Medium blue like
<v Speaker 2>a neon blue, and it was glowing. It was actually
<v Speaker 2>you could see the you could see a energy radiate
<v Speaker 2>from it and it just swelled up, and then it
<v Speaker 2>would constrict, and then it would swell back up again,
<v Speaker 2>and then it would constrict, and before I could get ball,
<v Speaker 2>there's an orb out of my mouth. It totally disappeared.
<v Speaker 2>It vanished, It didn't fly off, it didn't back up,
<v Speaker 2>it didn't it just disappeared completely. And that led me
<v Speaker 2>to start thinking that this is like an interaction between
<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatch and ourselves, because they know we're there, but
<v Speaker 2>they know we're there not to harm them. And I
<v Speaker 2>feel like our disposition is making us very approachable, if
<v Speaker 2>that makes any sense, because I try to say a
<v Speaker 2>little honest prayer every time I go into the woods,
<v Speaker 2>and I try to tell myself, allow yourself to be humble,
<v Speaker 2>allow yourself to gain information, allow yourself to take away
<v Speaker 2>something today that you didn't come here with. And I
<v Speaker 2>try to do that every time. So it's now whether
<v Speaker 2>that's right or wrong, that I'm sure a lot of
<v Speaker 2>people out there are going to look at me like, boy,
<v Speaker 2>he's way off. He's way off. And I could be,
<v Speaker 2>but for some reason, this makes me very happy. And
<v Speaker 2>as long as this makes me happy, I would love
<v Speaker 2>to continue to do it. So man, I've been researching
<v Speaker 2>for one solid year now, twenty seven trips under my belt.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen four orbs. I've found footprints in two different locations,
<v Speaker 2>one of which one set of tracks that I I
<v Speaker 2>located was under a bridge and there was five perfect prints,
<v Speaker 2>one to left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot,
<v Speaker 2>five of them under the under that bridge. And then
<v Speaker 2>probably I've seen tree structures, I've had I've had other
<v Speaker 2>stuff thrown at us. Uh. So I have experienced sticks
<v Speaker 2>and pinecomb's being thrown at us as well. Uh but
<v Speaker 2>they were all kind of underhanded thrown. They weren't They
<v Speaker 2>weren't thrown like a baseball pitch. It was more like
<v Speaker 2>a softball pitch. It's like, here, I'm going to just
<v Speaker 2>throw you a little rock to show you that I
<v Speaker 2>know where you're at and i know what you're doing,
<v Speaker 2>and I've got my eyes on you. So ah, what
<v Speaker 2>do you make of that? That's kind of the way
<v Speaker 2>it made me feel. It's like, what do you make
<v Speaker 2>of that? To get a reaction? And I I think
<v Speaker 2>when they do throw things like that, I think they're
<v Speaker 2>either doing it for to get a reaction out of
<v Speaker 2>us as researchers, or they are looking to almost like
<v Speaker 2>make almost play a joke on us. You know, it's
<v Speaker 2>almost like tag, you're it. I throw one to you,
<v Speaker 2>now you throw one back in a playful manner. So
<v Speaker 2>I believe it could be done in a playful manner.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it could also be done by throwing the
<v Speaker 2>sticks or rocks at people. That it is basically their
<v Speaker 2>way of saying, this is your warning sign. We are
<v Speaker 2>telling you to please leave this area, or we respectfully
<v Speaker 2>ask that you leave this area. And so that's the
<v Speaker 2>way I take anytime I hear someone having a rock
<v Speaker 2>or anything along those lines being tosted them. And we
<v Speaker 2>also have another encounter with one of our members who
<v Speaker 2>his wife was almost hitting the head with a rock,
<v Speaker 2>and had she taken one step further, a little bit quicker,
<v Speaker 2>it would have definitely hit her above the waist. And
<v Speaker 2>it's scared. It scared them so bad that they exited
<v Speaker 2>the woods immediately and took him a little took him
<v Speaker 2>a little while to go back in the woods. But
<v Speaker 2>he's back in the woods now. However, his wife refuses
<v Speaker 2>to walk in the woods anymore. She's like, that's it,
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. So I totally understand that. So I believe
<v Speaker 2>they can't. I believe they can be aggressive. I think
<v Speaker 2>they could be extremely aggressive if pushed. And I've been
<v Speaker 2>told by several other people that exact same thing, and
<v Speaker 2>for me to heat a warning if I get a warning,
<v Speaker 2>which kind of brings me to my next topic, which
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be something that happened to me in July
<v Speaker 2>of last year. And we were in a location known
<v Speaker 2>as the swamp. That's what we refer to as the swamp,
<v Speaker 2>and the swamp typically from what I've been told, the
<v Speaker 2>swamp typically will hold about two foot to three feet
<v Speaker 2>of water year round. Normally, it doesn't matter. There's gonna
<v Speaker 2>be there's gonna be water on the ground, there's gonna
<v Speaker 2>be a little deeper in some places than others, but
<v Speaker 2>you get the gist of where I'm going with this.
<v Speaker 2>So it's truly a swamp and there's large trees that
<v Speaker 2>are growing in it. And so we took off for
<v Speaker 2>an afternoon walk around and I told the guys, I said, guys,
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm going I'm going deep. I'm going as
<v Speaker 2>deep as I can go, and then I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>try to get back right before dusk. And they're like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you you do what you feel like is right for you,
<v Speaker 2>and so that's what I did. So I pick off.
<v Speaker 2>I was maybe, and I'm going to say this very reservingly,
<v Speaker 2>I was at least a mile back in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>That it had taken me about forty five minutes a
<v Speaker 2>very very aggressive walking to get to that point. And
<v Speaker 2>I was so far back in the woods that I
<v Speaker 2>had been taught by Bob and Dwight that if I'm
<v Speaker 2>going on a long walk like that a lot of
<v Speaker 2>time us, what we'll do is, you know, we'll carry
<v Speaker 2>an audio recorder with us. So what I did was,
<v Speaker 2>about halfway the distance of my walk, I found a
<v Speaker 2>nice down tree, fallen tree, and I just put my
<v Speaker 2>sony recorder right there on the top of it. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I'm halfway from base camp to here,
<v Speaker 2>so this would be a good place to leave one
<v Speaker 2>see if I can pick up anything, maybe a vocalization
<v Speaker 2>of tree knocks, something along those lines. So I left
<v Speaker 2>it there and I continue walking on into the swamp.
<v Speaker 2>So I go maybe another half mile and I realized
<v Speaker 2>that it's getting later and I've got a pretty good
<v Speaker 2>walk ahead of me to get back out. I'd finally
<v Speaker 2>come to the end of what my walk was going
<v Speaker 2>to be, and I said, well, while I'm here, I
<v Speaker 2>need to practice my whoops, I need to practice my yells.
<v Speaker 2>I need to practice tree knocks. And I was very
<v Speaker 2>reserved to do that in front of the rest of
<v Speaker 2>my group because they're good at it and when they
<v Speaker 2>do something, it sounds like it's what it's supposed to
<v Speaker 2>and me, everything I've got still a work in progress.
<v Speaker 2>But I said, okay, I have nothing to lose. So
<v Speaker 2>I gave a yell and I yelled best I could,
<v Speaker 2>and nothing happened. I stood there for a moment, listen nothing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay. So I scoured around and I found
<v Speaker 2>me a really good stick, a really good hardwood stick,
<v Speaker 2>about the size of your forearm, and I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>do to a tree knock impersonation. So I hit. I
<v Speaker 2>hit this large tree that I was beside of, and
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really get the sound out of it that
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was gonna get. You know, it's funny
<v Speaker 2>how you can pick up a stick and hit a
<v Speaker 2>tree and you're like, this thing's really going to make
<v Speaker 2>a good sound. This is gonna this is gonna sound
<v Speaker 2>sweet on tape and then you do it and it's like,
<v Speaker 2>you know, a three year old beating a tin can.
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't sound anything like what you expected. And so
<v Speaker 2>I took the stick the second time, and when I
<v Speaker 2>hit the tree, I mean I swung it with all
<v Speaker 2>my might and it made a really good, really good
<v Speaker 2>tree knock. And so I was happy with that, and
<v Speaker 2>I stood there for a moment waiting on a reply.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get a reply back. Well, I'm like, dad, gummet,
<v Speaker 2>I did such a good tree knock. I have nothing
<v Speaker 2>else to do, but I'm going to yell out in desperation.
<v Speaker 2>So I gave a yell. But this time when I
<v Speaker 2>gave the yell, I gave it with every bit of
<v Speaker 2>energy for my body. I could muster, like a screaming contest,
<v Speaker 2>and I gave the biggest way that I could let out.
<v Speaker 2>And I stood there for a moment, and I'm like, surely,
<v Speaker 2>if there's anything in these woods, something has to reply
<v Speaker 2>to that. And as I stood there, and as I
<v Speaker 2>stood there once again, nothing happened. Well at that point,
<v Speaker 2>I was becoming a little bit aggravated, and I'm like, oh, well,
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's just not my day to have anything
<v Speaker 2>happen to me. So I another step forward, and as
<v Speaker 2>I took another step forward, I got screamed at. And
<v Speaker 2>I got screamed at from the left hand side of
<v Speaker 2>that tree that I could not see through, and it
<v Speaker 2>was on my left hand side. It was not dark.
<v Speaker 2>I still had visibility in the woods. I could comfortably
<v Speaker 2>see thirty forty yards deep, and I could picture. I
<v Speaker 2>could see the outlines of the trees that I was
<v Speaker 2>looking at, and then the back dropped behind that outline.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I know, I know what I'm looking
<v Speaker 2>at at this time of day. And when I got
<v Speaker 2>screamed at, it screamed so hard that it vibrated my chest.
<v Speaker 2>Every hair on my body stood up, hair on the
<v Speaker 2>back of my neck, my arms, my legs. I was
<v Speaker 2>I was completely tingling, and I had closed my eyes.
<v Speaker 2>It had scared me so badly that I didn't even
<v Speaker 2>realize that I had closed my eyes and I was
<v Speaker 2>standing there frozen. I couldn't even tell you how long
<v Speaker 2>I was in that position. I don't know if it
<v Speaker 2>was for one second, ten seconds, thirty seconds, a minute.
<v Speaker 2>I could not tell you. All I know is I
<v Speaker 2>was like completely frozen in my tracks and then I went, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I just got screamed at by one of these things
<v Speaker 2>or something, and I can't wait. The first thing that
<v Speaker 2>went through my mind is I can't wait to tell
<v Speaker 2>the guys back at base camp that I got screamed at.
<v Speaker 2>And before I could even process that thought completely, I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I've got to get out of here, or do I
<v Speaker 2>do what I came here to do, and that's to
<v Speaker 2>press forward and continue looking. Maybe I can see it.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe if I stick my head around the tree. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>if I do this. You know, all these little thoughts
<v Speaker 2>just popped into my head for something that was that
<v Speaker 2>life changing to have happened to me, and I I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to protect myself. Number one. I dropped my
<v Speaker 2>hand down, put it on my firearm, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to walk around this tree, and I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to walk into the direction of where that scream came from,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just going to at least give it a
<v Speaker 2>go and see if I can see anything. And Miguel,
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you, man, takes a lot to
<v Speaker 2>scare me. But I could not even make myself put
<v Speaker 2>one foot in front of the other to go forward.
<v Speaker 2>That's still how shook up I was? So then I
<v Speaker 2>realized that I wasn't moving forward and I was just
<v Speaker 2>standing there stuck like an idiot, Like what do I do? Now?
<v Speaker 2>What's the safe way? Do I run? Do I walk?
<v Speaker 2>Do I get out of here? Do I do? How
<v Speaker 2>do I get out of this situation? Right? Well? Tim
<v Speaker 2>Dill's who I mentioned earlier. He had told me a
<v Speaker 2>story about something that had happened to him when he
<v Speaker 2>was in the mountains, and he said, if by chance,
<v Speaker 2>you're ever in a situation that you're scared and you
<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly what to do, he said, I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to recommend that you do this. You turn around, You
<v Speaker 2>do not look in the direction of whatever it was
<v Speaker 2>that scared you, and you just very calmly walk back
<v Speaker 2>in the same direction you came. And I did that.
<v Speaker 2>I just turned around and I started putting one foot
<v Speaker 2>in front of the other and making my way back
<v Speaker 2>over to the direction I knew I needed to go.
<v Speaker 2>And it was the slowest, longest walk of my life.
<v Speaker 2>And what was behind me I have no idea, And
<v Speaker 2>yeah it was. It was. It was the scariest incident
<v Speaker 2>that had ever happened to me. Well, I've been in
<v Speaker 2>some pretty pretty dramatic experiences car wrecks, injuries, being hurt
<v Speaker 2>on the jobs, things like that. Experienced a lot of
<v Speaker 2>stuff skydiving, racing four wheelers, racing cars, things along those lines.
<v Speaker 2>But this was the scaredess that I've ever been in
<v Speaker 2>my life. And when I got back to the base camp,
<v Speaker 2>the guys asked me, they said, do you have anything
<v Speaker 2>happen to you? And I said, yeah, I did. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not really exactly sure how to process it, but I
<v Speaker 2>certainly did have something happen to me. And they said, well,
<v Speaker 2>we heard something. I said, are you kidding? You're kidding right,
<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, we got it on audio. And I went,
<v Speaker 2>you actually heard that scream from where you are on audio?
<v Speaker 2>They said, we both did. And so I had retrieved
<v Speaker 2>my recorder that I had left on that limb or
<v Speaker 2>on that tree earlier, and I've got that recording and
<v Speaker 2>it's a pretty good one. It's a pretty good one.
<v Speaker 2>So that was, Uh, that was the scariest that I've
<v Speaker 2>ever been. And I did not see what creature that
<v Speaker 2>sound came out of, but whatever it did had the
<v Speaker 2>largest vocal cords of any animal I've ever heard in
<v Speaker 2>the woods, uh, without without without a question. So I
<v Speaker 2>had I had that happen to me. Uh And so yeah,
<v Speaker 2>when I got back, we were comparing audio recorders and
<v Speaker 2>everything like that. Oh I did forget one thing. I
<v Speaker 2>did find one print on the way out there on
<v Speaker 2>that wall, and I had flagged it so that when
<v Speaker 2>when I did come back to base camp, we were
<v Speaker 2>gonna gather up our casting material and uh go do
<v Speaker 2>a dental stone cast of this print. And it started
<v Speaker 2>raining on us so badly that we couldn't cast the print.
<v Speaker 2>But I did get the sound on audio, So I
<v Speaker 2>did get that. So that was one of the one
<v Speaker 2>of the major things that happened to me. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>let me see. You found a couple of other prints, found,
<v Speaker 2>some structures, found some found one spot that, uh, out
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of nowhere, I mean nowhere, there was
<v Speaker 2>three rocks, three white flint rocks that were placed, you know,
<v Speaker 2>in a in a pattern on the ground, and there
<v Speaker 2>was fresh leaves that had fallen prior. So it's not
<v Speaker 2>like the rocks had been there forever. They had been
<v Speaker 2>specifically placed there. And it wasn't like a gifting stump
<v Speaker 2>or a specific location or anything. Along those lines. It
<v Speaker 2>was just a random place. Right in the middle there
<v Speaker 2>was like a little triangle of three large trees. And
<v Speaker 2>then right in the center of these three large trees
<v Speaker 2>there's three perfectly white, round flint rocks that are in
<v Speaker 2>a perfect triangle as well. Now what that means and
<v Speaker 2>what that stands for, I have no clue, but I
<v Speaker 2>noticed it to be. Let's just call it noteworthy. If
<v Speaker 2>nothing else is just just noteworthy. Find a lot of
<v Speaker 2>noteworthy things out there in the woods, don't you. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I've found the triangle several times, and I feel
<v Speaker 1>like the juveniles leave them behind. I'm not sure what
<v Speaker 1>it means, but it's amazing, it really is.
<v Speaker 2>See, I have that exact same thought. I think the
<v Speaker 2>juveniles leave those It's almost like a it's almost like
<v Speaker 2>a classroom setting when you find something like that, or
<v Speaker 2>it leads me to think that way. But yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>think the juveniles have something to do with that, like
<v Speaker 2>you know, the marbles or gifting something. I think it's
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a teaching mechanism for the younger for
<v Speaker 2>the younger ones.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's some form of communication. And let me ask
<v Speaker 1>you this, Chris, did they leave it on a trail.
<v Speaker 2>No, not on a trail. Where did you find that
<v Speaker 2>it was? It was in the woods. Typically do not
<v Speaker 2>walk the trails, like if there's a service road in
<v Speaker 2>a national forest, or if there's a there's a parkiasema
<v Speaker 2>or a trail, a bicycle trail, motorcycle trail, foot trail,
<v Speaker 2>horse trail, I typically will not go down that trail. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>The reason that I select not to is because of
<v Speaker 2>the foot foot traffic pattern of the ground being a
<v Speaker 2>lot harder, which is going to show less prints. It's
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be compacted more, you know, with the traffic.
<v Speaker 2>So there's there's several reasons why I select to go
<v Speaker 2>off the trails. I like the walk through the woods
<v Speaker 2>down to a body of water. If I know that
<v Speaker 2>there's a body of water in one particular area, uh,
<v Speaker 2>that's the first place that I'm going to try to
<v Speaker 2>go to, is that body of water. H One thing
<v Speaker 2>that my guys have said numerous times to me is
<v Speaker 2>the pattern that they think happens mostly is that the
<v Speaker 2>uh the sasquatch will stay higher up during the daytime
<v Speaker 2>hours and then come down lower in the evenings. So
<v Speaker 2>we kind of we kind of pattern our walk around
<v Speaker 2>and then are sit down at night based upon those
<v Speaker 2>based upon that that theory, you know. Ah, but I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know one hundred percent sure. If
<v Speaker 2>anybody knows truly what what their true patterns are, I'd
<v Speaker 2>love to That's why we do this, right, that's why
<v Speaker 2>we do this. So so I've got a thousand questions,
<v Speaker 2>and I've got maybe two answers, you know, I've got
<v Speaker 2>maybe two answers out of a thousand questions. Uh, It's
<v Speaker 2>just it's just an amazing and I revert. I review
<v Speaker 2>this and I look at it and I go, this
<v Speaker 2>is a sport. You know, this isn't just a hobby.
<v Speaker 2>It's like you can you can be a hobbyist at it,
<v Speaker 2>or you can take it seriously as though it's a sport.
<v Speaker 2>So uh, I really don't care about hunting deer anymore.
<v Speaker 2>This past season, I had deer all the time, and
<v Speaker 2>I bow hunt and gun hunt, muzzle hunt, but I
<v Speaker 2>would rather go squatching. I would much rather go squatching. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>And And and we were out there, you know, zero
<v Speaker 2>degree temperatures, and I still have a smile on my face,
<v Speaker 2>still have a smile on my face. Just enjoy I'm
<v Speaker 2>enjoying what I do. Uh, very very seldom do I
<v Speaker 2>ever get disappointed. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Big Footing is a very complicated thing, but at
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's really soothing because it gets you
<v Speaker 1>out in nature and kind of reconnects you with the
<v Speaker 1>woods again.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to be holding
<v Speaker 2>a gun pointing it at something to get excited about it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can you can actually enjoy your surroundings
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more doing it the way we do it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've always been in the woods, but I've
<v Speaker 2>always been on pins and needles, waiting to hear something,
<v Speaker 2>waiting to possibly see something or have something run through
<v Speaker 2>or run off or run by. And but now I
<v Speaker 2>go into the woods and I'm sitting there going, my gosh,
<v Speaker 2>that spiral on that tree is just beautiful, the way
<v Speaker 2>the wood turns, and you know, noticing a lot of
<v Speaker 2>things like that that I'd never noticed before. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like the the old forest is still
<v Speaker 2>a new forest to me, and so it's it's really
<v Speaker 2>it's really got me excited and compared to where I
<v Speaker 2>was a year ago, Uh, I am such a happy guy.
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm excited about every weekend. Uh, every conversation
<v Speaker 2>that I have with anyone who's you know, curious or
<v Speaker 2>or as an expert. Uh, it's it's it's a good
<v Speaker 2>place to be right now. Yeah, with all this, with
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff coming out now about the government and
<v Speaker 2>disclosing this and disclosing that, I believe it's just a
<v Speaker 2>very short manner of time before the government starts disclosing
<v Speaker 2>what they know about uh Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could be. And I find it interesting that
<v Speaker 1>you've seen the orbs so many times, and we see
<v Speaker 1>him around here in Missouri, either like one or two
<v Speaker 1>every now and then. But in North Carolina there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of them, especially around Marion. If you go north
<v Speaker 1>of that in Pisgo the Pisco National Forest. I think
<v Speaker 1>that's how you say you can see the lights at
<v Speaker 1>Wiseman's Peak, and man, it's really cool.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And and my guys have been there numerous times. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>We we go up, we go up into those areas,
<v Speaker 2>uh quite often. Uh A lot a lot of the
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the western North Carolina mountains. Uh is
<v Speaker 2>where we call home. You know. Every every location that
<v Speaker 2>I squatched from is a minimum two hour drive you
<v Speaker 2>know there there's nothing, there's nothing really handy for me.
<v Speaker 2>And uh so, I mean that I'm having to dedicate
<v Speaker 2>myself to go out and but two hours of windshield
<v Speaker 2>time in before even getting somewhere to look. But I'm
<v Speaker 2>okay with that, you know, I'm okay with that. If
<v Speaker 2>that's what it takes, that's what I'll do.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And you ask God for a change in
<v Speaker 1>your life, and this is the new change, and I
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing. It's kind of strange that he
<v Speaker 1>used Bigfoot. I believe he used Bigfoot to change our lives.
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's part of revealing the truth and
<v Speaker 1>kind of what's been going on on this planet. And
<v Speaker 1>we've been lied to about so many things, especially the
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot topic, and I feel like they just want to
<v Speaker 1>suppress mankind and make people feel like there's nothing more
<v Speaker 1>to life other than working and paying taxes.
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, you hit the You hit the nail on
<v Speaker 2>the head right there. I couldn't agree with you moreg well,
<v Speaker 2>did not agree with you more. And you know, you've
<v Speaker 2>been doing this for quite a while, and I know
<v Speaker 2>that you're you're feeling more and more comfortable in the
<v Speaker 2>woods when it's completely dark out or when you're completely
<v Speaker 2>by yourself, and you know that's that's a learning process,
<v Speaker 2>but that that that learning process makes you a stronger individual.
<v Speaker 2>I can I can remember morning after morning of going
<v Speaker 2>out and going deer hunting and being out there at
<v Speaker 2>four thirty in the morning before it broke daylight at seven,
<v Speaker 2>just to make certain that you know, I was doing
<v Speaker 2>everything properly so that I could have a successful hunt.
<v Speaker 2>And even sometimes when you don't have a successful hunt,
<v Speaker 2>you still have a good hunt. You know, you're you
<v Speaker 2>can take away something from that. You can clear your mind,
<v Speaker 2>you can put a little more thought into this topic
<v Speaker 2>or subject than normal. And that's what I try to
<v Speaker 2>find myself doing is how can I how can I
<v Speaker 2>better myself while I'm trying to better my ambitions with
<v Speaker 2>this subject. You know, Yeah, God did God did me
<v Speaker 2>a favor, There's no question about that. I'm thankful to
<v Speaker 2>him every single day. I'm thankful that he connected me
<v Speaker 2>with the people that I'm with right now. Uh. That
<v Speaker 2>was that was more than I could have ever imagined.
<v Speaker 2>And Uh, I was going to say to anyone out
<v Speaker 2>there who's who's looking to become you know a little
<v Speaker 2>more knowledgeable about this. If there, if there's a bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>festival or a sasquatch festival being held locally in your area,
<v Speaker 2>by all means, go out there. Go to the festival, meet,
<v Speaker 2>meet the research groups that are out there, Try to
<v Speaker 2>get your foot in the door. Ask ask questions as
<v Speaker 2>long as they'll answer them. You know, if if you
<v Speaker 2>have the desire to want to really learn more, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>you have to put the effort in. You know, you
<v Speaker 2>have to put the effort in. It's not going to
<v Speaker 2>just miraculously happen. You have to be you have to
<v Speaker 2>want it. And and I have one year to date.
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, man, there's no turning back for me. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a long term hobby or sport.
<v Speaker 2>I like to refer to it as a sport. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And the orbs that you observed, they seem to have
<v Speaker 1>some type of intelligence behind them.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. The way the way that first orb that I
<v Speaker 2>describe to you, the way it was actually navigating through
<v Speaker 2>the trees, and and and and and uh, turning left,
<v Speaker 2>turning right or darting to the left and jarting to
<v Speaker 2>the right at speed. Now, this isn't slowly moving, this
<v Speaker 2>is quick moving. This was like I don't know, it
<v Speaker 2>was like I don't want to say, like a shot
<v Speaker 2>of lightning, but it was fast. Uh, it was as
<v Speaker 2>fast as you could move the light on a flashlight,
<v Speaker 2>you know, with a beam a flashlight h or a
<v Speaker 2>flashlight beam rather through the woods to not touch a
<v Speaker 2>tree with it. That's what That's what the light resembled
<v Speaker 2>to me. And then the one that glowed, the blue one, dude,
<v Speaker 2>that was just like it was like I as soon
<v Speaker 2>as I saw it, I'm like, I'm already in the
<v Speaker 2>I'm already in the presence of something I don't under stand.
<v Speaker 2>That's all I can say. That's that's the first thing
<v Speaker 2>that struck me. It's like, what is that? And I
<v Speaker 2>have no power over it, and I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>it is, but I am completely awestruck right now at
<v Speaker 2>the way this thing is radiating or pulsating and glowing. So, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that was that was kind of a kind of a
<v Speaker 2>neat experience. I'm looking into the orbs right now a
<v Speaker 2>lot more than than I have in the past, simply
<v Speaker 2>because I've been fortunate enough to see four of them,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I mean some some people have I know,
<v Speaker 2>I've talked to other people who have seen three and
<v Speaker 2>four at the time, and they've seen some that would
<v Speaker 2>go and make like square it would move in like
<v Speaker 2>a square box, like four corners. It just constantly moving
<v Speaker 2>in poor corn and poor positions. Uh. I've never seen that,
<v Speaker 2>but I would love to see it. I would absolutely
<v Speaker 2>love to see it. I hope to see it one day.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking into the orbs more and still don't
<v Speaker 2>have anything, like there's no defenditive answer for it. Every
<v Speaker 2>everything's a speculation apparently unless someone's got, you know, lock
<v Speaker 2>lockdown proof out there that I've not heard of yet. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm I'm wanting to learn more about the orbs.
<v Speaker 2>They're they're absolutely beautiful. Uh, They're they're beautiful. And if
<v Speaker 2>if anyone's lucky enough to see a blue one, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's luck or chance or what have you.
<v Speaker 2>But the blue ones are awfully pretty. That's all I
<v Speaker 2>can say. They're awfully pretty. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I've seen two blue ones before, and it's it's amazing
<v Speaker 1>to see. Were these like volleyball size? Would you say.
<v Speaker 2>The blue one was? It was like it was it
<v Speaker 2>was larger. The other ones were more like a tennis ball.
<v Speaker 2>This one, I would comfortably say it's like a volleyball
<v Speaker 2>or like a handball, like one of those. Yeah, let's
<v Speaker 2>let's just call it around the volleyball size. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. It wasn't basketball sized, and it wasn't softball,
<v Speaker 2>So yes, it's right there around the volleyball size. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>They seem to be alive, and they're associated with bigfoot activity.
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think these or why do you think
<v Speaker 1>this creature screamed at you? What do you think the
<v Speaker 1>purpose was?
<v Speaker 2>What do I think the creatures you're talking about the
<v Speaker 2>orb itself?
<v Speaker 1>No, why do you think it screamed at you when
<v Speaker 1>you heard the vocalization?
<v Speaker 2>I think and I've had, you know, I've had a
<v Speaker 2>year to or months to really process that. And I
<v Speaker 2>think that the way I had gone so far into
<v Speaker 2>these woods and so deep into these woods, that it
<v Speaker 2>had basically either watched me walk upon it, or it
<v Speaker 2>had basically walked out in front of me at a
<v Speaker 2>far enough distance to where it was like staying in
<v Speaker 2>front of me and waiting on me to get to
<v Speaker 2>a certain location. But then that was definitely my warning sign.
<v Speaker 2>It was like, Chris, you do not take one more
<v Speaker 2>step forward, You're not getting a second scream warning. That's
<v Speaker 2>what it made me feel like, in my heart of
<v Speaker 2>hearts and in my gut, I'm like, I cannot do this.
<v Speaker 2>I cannot could I I don't know. It's so weird.
<v Speaker 2>You second guess everything you do out there at times,
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, did I do the right thing? Did
<v Speaker 2>I make the right choice? Did a you know? Is
<v Speaker 2>are my batteries charged? Is my is my SIMS card? In? Here? Is?
<v Speaker 2>Did I step on that that? You know? Should it?
<v Speaker 2>Should I have done this differently? Everything could be second
<v Speaker 2>guess a dozen times when you're in the field, and
<v Speaker 2>which which I think is good is because that's also
<v Speaker 2>what keeps you on your toes. And I think it
<v Speaker 2>screamed at me to make that that was just in
<v Speaker 2>a nutshell, my one and final warning. But it didn't
<v Speaker 2>give me a second scream. And there was no other
<v Speaker 2>sound that came out of the woods. Because as soon
<v Speaker 2>as it screamed, and as soon as I kind of
<v Speaker 2>kind of got my senses about me, that's when I
<v Speaker 2>turned around and I just slowly exited and it did.
<v Speaker 2>It took me an hour, and I think the guy
<v Speaker 2>said it took me an hour and thirty five minutes
<v Speaker 2>to walk back, so I was walking very slow. But
<v Speaker 2>he see, here's the thing. I'm the new researcher, right,
<v Speaker 2>I'm the new kid on the block. I don't know anything.
<v Speaker 2>And then I go out there with these guys who've
<v Speaker 2>been doing it for a long time. There's very very
<v Speaker 2>little that really shakes them. You know, they've seen it,
<v Speaker 2>done it numerous times. So they come into everything with
<v Speaker 2>a very calm and a very relaxed demeanor. It's like, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so tell me about what you saw, tell me about
<v Speaker 2>your feelings, tell me about what you think. And they
<v Speaker 2>they were helping me talk my way through it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>to get a better understanding of what happened. And so yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I'll be I'm one hundred percent honest when I say this.
<v Speaker 2>It was vocalizing to me that that was far enough.
<v Speaker 2>And I think I made the right choice. I think
<v Speaker 2>I made the correct call by turning around, not pursuing
<v Speaker 2>it anymore, not looking for it, not trying to see
<v Speaker 2>where that sound came from. But that's I was. So
<v Speaker 2>I was so shaken up by this Miguel that when
<v Speaker 2>I got home the next day and I started recapping
<v Speaker 2>this with my wife. I was telling her the story
<v Speaker 2>about it, and I became emotional, like, you know, not
<v Speaker 2>doohoo crying, But I'm saying I was thrilled that I
<v Speaker 2>got to experience that. I mean, it was it was
<v Speaker 2>a it was a very it was a very serious
<v Speaker 2>time for me. And I don't think it's I don't
<v Speaker 2>think it's something that a lot of people will ever encounter.
<v Speaker 2>I think more people will see bigfoot than Bigfoot screams
<v Speaker 2>at them. And I can't say for one hundred percent
<v Speaker 2>that that was a bigfoot in the woods that particular day. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to clarify that. I am saying something screamed
<v Speaker 2>at me to the top of its vocal cords, as
<v Speaker 2>hard and as loud as it possibly could, and it
<v Speaker 2>shook me to my core. So whatever you want to
<v Speaker 2>call that, have at it. But I know in my
<v Speaker 2>heart what I feel like it was. It was number
<v Speaker 2>one either a sasquatch, and it had to have been
<v Speaker 2>a fully mature sasquatch, because the sound was so deep
<v Speaker 2>and it was so resonating that it was almost like
<v Speaker 2>a baritone had just finished a lyric from an opera,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was that oh pronounced so yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>think it's I think it's awesome. Sign me up for
<v Speaker 2>that every weekend, man, sign me up for that every weekend.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is amazing. And what is your end goal
<v Speaker 1>with researching out in the woods? Do you plan on
<v Speaker 1>possibly seeing one?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I have every intention of physically seeing one within
<v Speaker 2>the next year, without question, simply because of the track
<v Speaker 2>record of my other guys and the places that we
<v Speaker 2>go and the things that they've seen in the past.
<v Speaker 2>And they keep telling me, they're like, they know I'm
<v Speaker 2>not impatient. They know I'm waiting. They know that I'm
<v Speaker 2>okay with that, but they're like, Chris, it'll happen. You're
<v Speaker 2>putting the time in. You're you know, twenty seven trips
<v Speaker 2>in less than one year. That's that's a lot of
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a lot of researching. Man doing it over
<v Speaker 2>the weekends and with that one particular thing in mind.
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's the whole purpose of going on that trip.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not like going to the mall and
<v Speaker 2>then you happen to see a big foot on the
<v Speaker 2>side of the road. You know, we were specifically set
<v Speaker 2>up looking for that, looking for evidence twenty seven times
<v Speaker 2>this past year, and it's going to become even more
<v Speaker 2>next year because we're gonna go everywhere. We're gonna go
<v Speaker 2>every weekend, weather permitting, and we're going to continue to
<v Speaker 2>collect evidence. I hope that I'm healthy enough, and I
<v Speaker 2>hope I live long enough to where I've got some
<v Speaker 2>really cool, interesting things to tell my grandchildren. Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 2>what I want to do. You want them to I
<v Speaker 2>want them to sit on my lap one day and say, Papa,
<v Speaker 2>tell me the story about when you got screamed ABT
<v Speaker 2>And I'll go, yes, ma'am, be happy to you. You
<v Speaker 2>know that just gives me a good feeling.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it'll happen for you. You're putting in
<v Speaker 1>the time. You're spending a lot of hours out in
<v Speaker 1>the woods, and you're out there with other researchers that
<v Speaker 1>are kind of guiding you to areas where these things
<v Speaker 1>have been seen in the past, where they've found evidence
<v Speaker 1>and they've had experiences there over and over.
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, because my guys, they've been interacting with other
<v Speaker 2>researchers a lot up and down along the East Coast.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're going to be traveling from the Adirondack
<v Speaker 2>all the way down into Georgia in Mississippi. Uh. This
<v Speaker 2>upcoming year, Florida is on our list. Uh. And we're
<v Speaker 2>heading up to the Virginia state line tomorrow morning. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>So hoping to hoping to get something good this weekend.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I wish you luck and definitely be safe
<v Speaker 1>out there. You never know what will happen out in
<v Speaker 1>the woods, especially in Virginia. There's a lot of reports
<v Speaker 1>out there.
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I'm excited about it. I'm
<v Speaker 2>excited about every trip we go on because it's not
<v Speaker 2>like we just show up in a field, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and hope for the best. But we're going to areas
<v Speaker 2>that have had numerous, you know, experiences, And so I
<v Speaker 2>get into it once in a while with my other
<v Speaker 2>two guys and I'm like, I'm like some old guys,
<v Speaker 2>let's go somewhere new, let's go somewhere different. I want
<v Speaker 2>to see something fresh. And they're like, Chris, there's a
<v Speaker 2>it's called consistency. For one main reason. You have to
<v Speaker 2>be consistent. You have to go back. You have to
<v Speaker 2>keep going back. You have to keep keep going back
<v Speaker 2>and keep going back when you don't even want to go.
<v Speaker 2>That's when you'll find something. And I'm like, okay, well,
<v Speaker 2>as long as I understand the game rules, you know.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm learning something new the whole time. I
<v Speaker 2>feel like a kid once again, but a serious kid.
<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm a serious kid. I'm a serious person.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, would I like to eventually do this full time? Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>That's that's what I'd love to do. I wouldn't have
<v Speaker 2>to see when every year. I could go two or
<v Speaker 2>three years without seeing one. But I know they're there.
<v Speaker 2>We've got to say. And with our group, there's two
<v Speaker 2>things you could be assured of. We know they're there,
<v Speaker 2>and we know that there's more of them than we're
<v Speaker 2>being told. That's that's what we tell everybody. Yeah, that
<v Speaker 2>we know they're there, and we know that there's more
<v Speaker 2>of them than most people realize.
<v Speaker 1>I would agree with that. And you have to keep
<v Speaker 1>hitting areas hard. Even if you go out there and nothing,
<v Speaker 1>nothing happens back to back, you eventually will go out
<v Speaker 1>there and something will happen that you can't explain.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for my
<v Speaker 2>next my next one, whatever my next one may be.
<v Speaker 2>Uh So, I'm gonna we can we can have another
<v Speaker 2>discussion about this two years from now and we can
<v Speaker 2>share more stories. But I can promise you I'm not
<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. I'm going to be out in the woods.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds good. And the activity will happen when
<v Speaker 1>you least expect it, so just be prepared at all times.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, absolutely, it's gonna it's gonna happen. Uh. Here's
<v Speaker 2>the funny thing. It's like, so I get invited to
<v Speaker 2>go out with these guys on my third, fourth, my fourth,
<v Speaker 2>my fourth trip, right, and so everybody has a scenario
<v Speaker 2>that they play out in their mind's eye. It's like, Okay,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be sitting here and then I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>look out over into the field and then there's gonna
<v Speaker 2>slowly be you know, a figure that walks and steps
<v Speaker 2>and moves or flanks me, and you know, and then
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be my first sighting. Right. That's the way
<v Speaker 2>I'd always pictured that in my head. And so I
<v Speaker 2>know now for a fact that when it does become
<v Speaker 2>my time, if I'm fortunate enough, which I believe I
<v Speaker 2>will be, that it's not going to be anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be totally opposite from what I was
<v Speaker 2>imagining or what I was hoping for, you know, And
<v Speaker 2>that's what makes it fun, man, That's what makes it fun.
<v Speaker 2>That's like now, when we find footprints, you know, we're
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, oh, okay, great, we found a nice
<v Speaker 2>print here. You know, next week we found something over there. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>that's all well and good. And my researchers tell me,
<v Speaker 2>they're like, Chris, just wait until you actually see one
<v Speaker 2>in the flesh, said, that's when your world will get wrong.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, wow, for them to say that that
<v Speaker 2>that is a life changing experience because what I've had
<v Speaker 2>happened to me and I haven't even laid eyes on
<v Speaker 2>one that that was. Now I did I do have something,
<v Speaker 2>if you have time for it, Miguel. I did see
<v Speaker 2>a shadow, and I wasn't even aware that I was
<v Speaker 2>going to see a shadow. I didn't know that people
<v Speaker 2>that research these creatures have occasionally run across the shadow
<v Speaker 2>that looks like it's moving. And I saw that. I
<v Speaker 2>saw this dark, grayish black. It looked like it looked
<v Speaker 2>like coffee grinds. Okay, it wasn't mosquitoes, it wasn't insects.
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't nats. So everyone out there automatically saying, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it was insects. No, it was not insects. I've spent
<v Speaker 2>too much time in the woods for that. This was
<v Speaker 2>this was It almost looked like a little dust storm
<v Speaker 2>about five feet wide, about eight feet tall, and it
<v Speaker 2>looked like it looked like it this gray floating mass
<v Speaker 2>that just went back and forth, and it shifted and
<v Speaker 2>then suddenly it was gone. It just vanished. And that
<v Speaker 2>happened about comfortably thirty five yards from me. And when
<v Speaker 2>I saw it, I first thing in my mind was, Oh,
<v Speaker 2>that had to have been a shadow of the sun
<v Speaker 2>setting over on the on the hillside, right, you know
<v Speaker 2>it called a tree or something, and there was just
<v Speaker 2>a shadow that went across. No wrong, because the sun
<v Speaker 2>was in a completely different location from where the shadow was.
<v Speaker 2>The sun would not have made that shadow in that location.
<v Speaker 2>That have happened. So I saw that, And if I
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go out on a limb, could that have
<v Speaker 2>been a shape shift? Could that have been something transforming?
<v Speaker 2>Could that have been something changing into another state? I
<v Speaker 2>have no idea, but I saw it. It may not
<v Speaker 2>sound exciting to a lot of people, but if there's
<v Speaker 2>anyone else out there that's ever seen one of these things. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, those are some great theories, and you never
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what it is until you see the creature itself.
<v Speaker 1>And then once you see it, all those things that
<v Speaker 1>have happened before you reflect back on and you think, man,
<v Speaker 1>I bet that was then m Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I'm having a wonderful time with this, and
<v Speaker 2>the guys that I'm with are a wonderful group of people,
<v Speaker 2>and we're we're just gonna keep pressing forward down here
<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina and surrounding states. Certain places we get
<v Speaker 2>invited to go see with other research groups. Some we
<v Speaker 2>agree to go to and the others we prefer to
<v Speaker 2>stick in our own backyard areas because we know something's happening.
<v Speaker 2>We're starting to be able to cycle to cycle through
<v Speaker 2>time frames of when it's when it's hot, where are
<v Speaker 2>more sightings being done when it's older months? Is there
<v Speaker 2>less frequency of the of the sightings that type of thing,
<v Speaker 2>and trying to put two and two together, uh, with
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those elements as well. So, yeah, we've
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of lot, a lot of work ahead
<v Speaker 2>of us, and uh, you know, totally enjoy your version
<v Speaker 2>of how you guys squatch out there. And I've never
<v Speaker 2>been to Missouri. I've seen from your show that it's
<v Speaker 2>an absolutely beautiful place. It looks very much like the
<v Speaker 2>the areas that we research, the terrain and the trees,
<v Speaker 2>flora and the fauna that it's very much it's very
<v Speaker 2>much identical in a lot of ways.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they do remind me or North Carolina does remind
<v Speaker 1>me of Missouri a lot, especially with the pines and
<v Speaker 1>the big oaks and all the spring water.
<v Speaker 2>Right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, Well we're running out of time, but you
<v Speaker 1>did an excellent job at explaining these experiences that you've had,
<v Speaker 1>and I really do. I feel like you're going to
<v Speaker 1>run into one of these creatures sooner then you might believe.
<v Speaker 1>So just be prepared, man, and I hope you're ready
<v Speaker 1>for it, because it will. It will rock your world
<v Speaker 1>and it'll change you for life.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, all I can say is let's get
<v Speaker 2>it on.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, in the future, as you build
<v Speaker 1>up more experiences and possibly have some encounters, definitely feel
<v Speaker 1>free to reach back out to me. And I would
<v Speaker 1>love to hear about it.
<v Speaker 2>I sure will, Miguil, sure will. Thanks so much. You
<v Speaker 2>guys have a great event.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, you have a good one. And be safe
<v Speaker 1>out there, man, all right, all right bye. Thanks for
<v Speaker 1>tuning into Sasquatch Theory. A big thanks to Chris for
<v Speaker 1>sharing his incredible experiences out in North Carolina. If you've
<v Speaker 1>had a bigfoot encounter or a strange experience with a
<v Speaker 1>cryptid creature you'd like to share, email me at Sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>Theory at outlook dot com. And yeah, I am certainly
<v Speaker 1>looking for people with bigfoot encounters, people who have actually
<v Speaker 1>laid eyes on these creatures and experienced the activity. Here lately,
<v Speaker 1>I've been getting an influx of people with paranormal experiences,
<v Speaker 1>and that's not really what I'm wanting to do with
<v Speaker 1>this channel. If it's connected directly with a bigfoot encounter,
<v Speaker 1>then I would certainly like to talk about it. But
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to turn my channel into a paranormal
<v Speaker 1>channel as far as like something putting a doll on
<v Speaker 1>your bed or moving something across the floor. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of getting away from my niche and
<v Speaker 1>I want to stick to the big foot experiences. Because
<v Speaker 1>that's what my channel is about.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>If someone had Bigfoot experiences and paranormal experiences throughout their life,
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, sure we can talk about it, but I'm
<v Speaker 1>not wanting to entertain the paranormal anymore. And yeah, I've
<v Speaker 1>done some interviews with people who have had paranormal experiences
<v Speaker 1>and not much Bigfoot activity, and I haven't been learning
<v Speaker 1>as much about Bigfoot. And also they come back and
<v Speaker 1>tell me they're not comfortable with me posting the interview,
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like a complete waste of time. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking for bigfoot encrypted encounters going forward. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like I said, if you've experienced paranormal activity, we can
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, but it has to be Bigfoot related,
<v Speaker 1>and actually it has to be directly related to Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing paranormal stuff anymore, and I hope that
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hurt anyone's feelings. I just got to stick to
<v Speaker 1>the niche. And yeah, I appreciate everyone for listening, for
<v Speaker 1>all the listeners, the people who have supported the channel,
<v Speaker 1>you guys are great, You are amazing. And until the
<v Speaker 1>next one, you guys, be safe in the forest.