Ranking the GOAT: Why Nobody Can Agree on MJ, Kobe or LeBron

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Speaker 1: Ranked these three, MJ, Kobe Lebron. Why is there even a.

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Speaker 2: Debate when you talk about mentality? Don't you gotta talk.

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Speaker 3: About Cole Kobe?

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Speaker 4: With my guy, man, you could tell me nothing.

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Speaker 5: What Kobe would be going to the line to shoot too?

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Speaker 6: MJ was going to shoot and one, I believe that if you are the blueprint, you are what everyone is trying to copy mean. And MJ was like all of those things.

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Speaker 3: That got love Jordan for the way he always want.

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Speaker 7: Lebron, in my opinion, is the greatest phenomenal specimen.

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Speaker 3: Of an athlete.

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Speaker 1: And Bron. We trust the one and only Craig just you play with him and you coach would feel and work with Kobe. What's the difference between those two in your opinion? Right hand? Why?

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Speaker 5: Because what Kobe would be going to the line to shoot too, MJ was going to shoot and one so a lot of them knocks that Kobe have to shoot with two hands when that knock. What happened?

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Speaker 3: M J?

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Speaker 5: Put that bad boy over here?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's the difference.

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Speaker 8: Okay, okay, okay, I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 5: That's that to me is the only difference is that gripper that gripper because that man, I'm telling you, I haven't seen his brother make like he's going to do a crossover and.

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Speaker 1: You come on, man, that that's a myth right now, Bro, Come on.

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm telling him and doctor J them them hands did.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It's certain, It's certain. And that's the way you say, like the creator knows who should have exactly. You can't question them, you know what I'm saying, what they what? This is what you're gonna need to do, what you got in your mind that you're gonna do, and there it is, go for it.

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Speaker 1: And then you have.

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Speaker 5: Kobe m J that injured Westbrook. When you look at people like John Moran who had that, when you'd be like, that's a different engine. You know what I'm saying, I can work like I'm telling you, I was with him Jay four and a half seasons or whatever. Never lost a suicide, mm, never never lost. Never, It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Never. No, that's hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: Some days I don't.

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Speaker 5: Feel like And we would ask Phil how many we got after practice, and he would ask us how many we want? Because we knew he knew we was trying to get.

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Speaker 1: Him mm hmmm.

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Speaker 5: So it would be it would be like this, all right, me and BJ we're gonna go out hard on him.

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Speaker 3: Up on it please as soon as a whistle blow, soon as.

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Speaker 1: A whistle blow.

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Speaker 5: He damned coming back at us. You feel me on the rail and this ain't no this ain't this ain't no job. And I'm running.

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Speaker 9: I feel like I could run all day.

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Speaker 5: You feel me and quick and quick hands with some speed. But man, it wasn't even it wasn't even fair on the rail and honestly checked us out. Kobe rehabit and we and Anaheim getting ready to play a preseason game, right so going through our workout before every for the other team comes out and then the other team get ready to come.

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Speaker 3: Out, He's like, watch this, hotch Like what he's like, watch this?

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Speaker 5: He get on the sideline and started running like he us saying boat up and down the sideline where.

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Speaker 3: The other team coming out to shoot.

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Speaker 5: They can't even look they're looking at him because hes running like he's eating the lines.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And that's the temperament that DJ and Cash can talk about.

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Speaker 1: Talk about something different.

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Speaker 5: And you're crazy.

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Speaker 3: So when we when we got with the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: We go to a wife. Our first training were on the plane. He tapped me on the shoulder. Man, when we get in, I want to have lunch with you. Okay, get in, go downstairs, we have lunch. It was all about, man, how did m J make people better?

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Speaker 1: What was he like?

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Speaker 5: And and then I had never seen any practice, sign practice. It was like watching Michael.

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Speaker 1: Whoa the first and everything.

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Speaker 5: Gas me, gas me and mannerisms, everything I'm like, And then understanding of how much he watched him growing up, but to be able to to see it, put it in practice, and then go do it.

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Speaker 9: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Ranked these three, m J, Kobe, Lebron. This is a hell of a debate.

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Speaker 10: Now, ya ya ya, y'all, y'all get into this all the time, and people get into this all this, and I think Jordan is a phenomenal, phenomenal player, and certainly all that he has gotten he deserves. But when you look at Lebron and what Lebron has done, even Covid and Kobe is a great player for long, but you look at Lebron and what he has done, Lebron has changed things in a big way. Michael all Michael Jordan accomplished and all he's done and all he did, he couldn't get his own owner to extend them another year. Like, dude, come on man, it's this is what are you doing here?

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Speaker 1: What is that?

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Speaker 10: Lebron came in a different way and has done a different thing, and now Lebron has some control. He changed the business basketball, right, it's not just dribbling. His business acrement incredible. You gotta give him some time. I remember they were arguing that he wouldn't with him and Kobe was in the All Star Game, right, and Kobe want to go one on one with him, one on one. You know, we want a form all to show up and take over. Al for Mail showed me got the MIL, but that.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't his game plan.

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Speaker 10: He's like, I don't have to show up and take over. I really want to take over. So instead of beating down the top players like a for Mail, he was like, no, I'm trying to partner with these guys so we could do bigger and better things. We can have more control. Lebron got way more control than Michael Jordan never had over this whole thing. So we started talking about goat boy, I mean, on the court, you can say on the court, you can say Michael Jordan was the go of the court. You're gonna say Lebron James is to go on the court and of the court, and Lebron of the court because what he has done in basketball, he's the goat. But plan I'll give it to Michael, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Steve Nash. You have to go up against Mike. Give me. Let's talk about that experience to him.

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Speaker 11: Uh, you know, for me, he's the greatest player to ever play the game, and he was my hero as a kid, got a chance to play against him. You know, ninety six ninety seven I came in the league. You know that was you know around the time that this right, it was, I think so the I think the last dance was ninety seven ninety eight, so my second year in the league. So I got to I got to. I mean, you guys, remember what it was. We didn't have so much access back then to every single thing on Instagram or YouTube, let alone watching games live. So you know it was MJ was must see TV. Like anytime he was on TV, like it was must see. And yeah, I mean exactly, he just had this charisma on top of all the gifts and skills and mentally you know how great he is. I mean playing against him.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I think that he.

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Speaker 11: Was unlike any other player I've ever played against, is that there was a real fear playing againstant like people I've never seen like the league be kind of fearful of a player or have that much reference for a player, no matter who who. You know, it has come since then, you know that was a different feeling when you're playing Mike because you just knew, you know, like there was there was such a seriousness and competitiveness and fire in him, and you know there was a fear with how that was going to manifest itself potentially on any given night. So he was he was. I mean, where do you want to start and where do you want to finish?

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Speaker 1: With him? He was? He was everything I think we take because of social media stuff. For granted, you know what I mean, where Lebron is one of you know, our heroes now and he gives constant access, and you see guys from other sports give constant access. But like you were saying, that wasn't the case back then, you know what I mean, Like there was no behind the scenes. There was no going in the Bulls locker room. You didn't see the Bulls shoot around. You didn't see MJ off the court, and he are one hero that we didn't really get to see that from you know, we got rest in peace. Coche started showing that post career Lebron has been amazing from the jump. But for us as as former players and Mike being someone we idolized, obviously, Mike and Pip and the Bulls and we idolize, it's special for us because we kind of always wanted to know, like, what was it like behind the scenes, because we know what it's really like behind the scenes, So what was it like behind the scenes for them? You know? So I think it's it's amazing. Welcome to the show, Kansas Parker, MJ, Kobe Bron Right. I got to rank them, Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: I believe that if you are the blueprint, then you are what everyone is trying to copy. And I grew up in the Chicago Land and MJ was like all of those things. So I would say MJ one, Kobe two, Bron three, and I know I'm gonna get killed being out.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, as mom, you said the blueprint and the blueprint too.

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Speaker 6: We talking about what I say, and then we have somebody listening, Like, let's put in perspective though, Bron is Karl Malone's size doing the things that he does, and I just am enamored by how he has continued to reinvent his game, continued dominance all of those things. So hats off respect to Bron. I just I idolized the little like footwork and the like critique and the I just all that and you could just tell, like Kobe was the blueprint two of blueprint. I mean just from working with Kobe in the gym, Like he's like, are you a toe spinner? Are you a heel spinner? Like nobody's ever asked me that before?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And so it's just like he's like.

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Speaker 6: In Jordan would rock are you a rocker?

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Speaker 1: Like what do you?

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Speaker 6: I'm like, nobody's ever asked me that before. So, like I'm a student of the game, and I just I geek over that shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was trying to teach it twins that ship at ten years old, You've got to spin on your toe this. So I'm like, oh, these motherfuckers just started dribbling He's like, no, on your toe. I'd have none of that ship. I was a Fowler Records. Did he do the line? I got a nice spin? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You do the line with the twins though, where you had to spin on the same span on the yeah.

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Speaker 1: Up top and then step around the cone and with your fade away it was speaking. I had a nice little spin.

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Speaker 6: Left shoulder, left shoulder, left shoulder.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Cheryl Miller. Rank these three in order your order. M J. Kobe Lebron, you're gonna do that one. Come on now, you've running all day. We let you slide on the other ones. Kobe Lebron, mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: No one knows where I live.

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Speaker 1: That's your brother, dude. Though.

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Speaker 7: You guys can't get a hold of them.

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Speaker 3: So I.

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Speaker 7: Gotta go with m J.

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Speaker 3: Lebron and then Kobe, and not at.

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Speaker 1: All you.

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Speaker 7: Can, because when you look at Lebron, Lebron, in my opinion, too, is the greatest phenomenal specimen of a specimen of an athlete physically, a physical I don't know if we'll ever see a physical marvel of someone of his magnitude, and it's just not.

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Speaker 3: It's his.

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Speaker 7: You got to take that and then longevity. Okay, Lebron J Kobe, I ain't mad at that.

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Speaker 1: I ain't at that.

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Speaker 7: You can talk to me. I've got it. I just got from longevity and he is still balling.

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Speaker 1: And not to mention all that. I mean, if we're talking basketball, all the great shit he does off the court as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what, This is why these guys are great interviewers. Don't give me all these particulars afterwards. Oh, you can include this, include that he's a social activist and all this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 9: But you know what, if you.

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Speaker 7: Put that, then it's clearly Lebron of what he does off the court things that, yeah, I And then okay, now if you're gonna add activism to it, then it's gonna be Lebron Kobe. And then MJ if you're gonna throw that in there, because Kobe has done so much not only for your game, but for women's game and what his daughter g would.

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Speaker 1: Have been a lot of stuff. All those guys do don't get.

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Speaker 7: Highlighted, as I agree, And that's what I love about about certain athletes. You never know what their left hand is doing.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You may see this, but you never know what they're like and I respect that.

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Speaker 8: I respect players so many old folks homes that in hospitals that MJ and built in his mom's name.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't talk about that either, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So they all do great things. So three then one, two, three, got any order?

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Speaker 7: You see, you can't go wrong first. And they're still they're still building, building and contributing.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Regim Miller.

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Speaker 12: You hear it all the time, who's the goat, who's the greatest and all that between you know him and Lebron. And I try to stay away from that because I went against Lebron.

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Speaker 1: His first year.

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Speaker 12: He was a rookie my last year, so I don't have no point of reference. But I will say Lebron has the greatest career.

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Speaker 1: I say that all the time. He has the greatest career. But Mike is the best basketball player ever, But.

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Speaker 12: Lebron has the greatest career. And I think why a lot of old heads want to dog out Lebron is because they were never as good as he is this lad in their career.

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Speaker 1: And they want to get on him for that.

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Speaker 12: Lebron at twenty two years in, at forty one forty, whatever he is, and he's about ready to be first or second team All NBA. As old guys, they were never call him all out.

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Speaker 1: Some of them just good in a prime.

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Speaker 4: That's today.

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Speaker 1: They wasn't.

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Speaker 12: And for him to be this good, this long, credible, you've got to say he has the greatest career by far, But is he the best? That's greatest and best ist two different things. And I think that's why old heads are getting it mixed up and they don't want.

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Speaker 1: To give Lebron his due he deserves. He deserves that.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we all wish we could be playing like him in year twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two, in any year period.

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Speaker 12: I mean, he's about ready to be on one of the All NBA teams at forty forty.

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Speaker 1: Vince carter Man, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: You watch that now.

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Speaker 13: When people ask this these questions about who's the greatest and blah blah blah, I'm like, what rules are we're using? Because if you put some of the players and starts of today in that era with hand checking and the physicality and what is considered a flagrant now who.

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Speaker 14: I don't care how good it is right now, it's a whole different ball games different.

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Speaker 9: Somebody holding on your shorts.

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Speaker 4: Legal, and it's le man.

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Speaker 13: When you run through the paint and you can get bumped, it's different. And that's my argument with people. It's like, it ain't no disrespect to anybody because they're all great, and you're gonna argue back and forth and everybody's gonna have their opinion.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying, which rules are we using?

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Speaker 13: Because when you say, if you say we're using today's rules, okay, well didn't take Michael Jordan, who's batter than bruises, getting fucked up every time he was running around off the screen through the paint, and put him in the rules today.

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Speaker 1: Averaging forty five.

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Speaker 4: And that's my argument. And it's no disrespect to any of these guys then though, that's my point. Whatever you say, you're gonna ruffle feathers and that's cool.

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Speaker 13: But I got the opportunity to play against Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James, so I've got to see all of them in their element. Not obviously I didn't play against Pride Mike, but Mike was pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: That man scored fifty points to forty.

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Speaker 1: Where do you put those three, you got a chance to play against all those three in the year. From your opinion, where do you put Mike, Kobe and MJ?

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Speaker 4: I gotta go with MJ.

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Speaker 13: See, it's hard for me to pick current players and put them against the past because I'm still playing one and I'm never gonna give them that advantage. That's just what it is until I'm done. But two, it's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, MJ.

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Speaker 13: Okay, all right, I'm gonna break it down like this. How many times m J went to the finals? Please get anybody?

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Speaker 4: Six, six times and one every time? Okay, So he's on the feat, so he don't know what it's like to lose in the finals. He can say undefeated.

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Speaker 13: If you can say that, that's number one right there. But at the same time, I have to give lebron as Bronce. That man went to the NBA finals eight straight, nine times?

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Speaker 4: Correct. Incredible.

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Speaker 1: Incredible is what it is.

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Speaker 13: And so I say this, and when you go that many times, you're gonna lose. That's that's the reactor you're gonna That's just that's just how it goes. And and and we're in the world where numbers matter.

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Speaker 4: And said, look at this winning record, go out.

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Speaker 13: And how many times the code go six or seven?

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Speaker 4: Six six or seven? Yeah, got five.

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Speaker 13: Look that's you know people always talking about their winning percentage. Well, that's the time to talk about winning percentages. That's that's and that's why, that's why I say that. But you know, it depends on what you're talking about. The greatest one of the greatest athletes to play this game, Bron James.

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Speaker 9: See, I can have that conversation with you.

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Speaker 8: I can have that conversation with you because you the future.

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 8: You can played the game a long time and we didn't have a lot of batters we've been in the game. But when it's people that really don't understand the game, I just leave it.

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Speaker 9: At they're all on Goat Island and none of us is invited.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: The Goat the best Wrapperlive Lee is in the building.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to all the smoke.

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Speaker 3: Bro m J, Kobe, Bron Rankle, m J, Kobe Broun Rankle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on with a tune.

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Speaker 3: Brian.

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Speaker 1: One.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mm hm, Mike and Kobe. What was Simba?

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Speaker 1: Simba was Bron Kobe, Mike right, Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, that ai Bron talk about it greatness. I mean, you're someone who's been in this game twenty five plus years. He's in it twenty years. He had a relationship with Kobe and Broun, Right, what is what? What?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: I like that?

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Speaker 1: What makes Bron so special in your opinion? What makes Kobe so special in your opinion?

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Speaker 3: Brian? I don't know Brian like personally.

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Speaker 15: So my answer for Brian to be from you know, from Afar, watching from Afar, Brian, and it's on the court. Brian, you gotta remind yourself that. I mean, I know for a fact I love Jordan for the way he fucking always won. And the kid you don't know too much about the ins and outs and all the other shit that we love now in the game that I'm old enough.

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Speaker 3: To care about. So I just who won. That's my favorite player.

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Speaker 1: He better win.

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Speaker 15: He always fucking win, that's all I know, you know what I mean? So I know I got old enough to know how hard it is to fucking do it back to back to back, But.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 15: So that's that's where he got his game respect with me. You know what I mean, start getting disrespect with me to he's the greatest, you know what I mean? Then I would so I would know. I noticed that, Okay, Brian done that ship. It's very hard to do. Like then that nigga Brian had done that ship with three teams. Mm hmmm, that's right there. That's when I was like, regardless, he ain't got six. I was like, but damn he done it with three different teams and not on one of those motherfucking teams.

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Speaker 3: Have he was?

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Speaker 15: Did he play part two? I mean roll two? He still can get six though. That's the scary point. Yeah, definitely, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: And so that right there is with tip Tim over the Jordan skiff for me, because you already know I was Jordan's You couldn't have that.

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Speaker 3: Conversation with me.

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Speaker 15: Wasn't even a conversation until I have to really think, like, you know what, Slim's still in this ship twenty years strong, you know what I mean? Like Slim is fucking amazing. He been amazing every year every since, like he ain't never prime always like when they be saying, you know, like you need to retire on top, you know what I'm saying that cliche. You need to tie you on top to anyone like you need to retire, retire on time. It's the best way to go on Like that, nigga, Brian don't even know what the middle field like you.

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Speaker 3: That's all he's ever been like.

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Speaker 15: So that right there, it is just amazing, you know what I mean, his longevity and whatever he did doing to his body or or whatever.

00:22:28
Speaker 3: That nigga, he must be praying the.

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Speaker 15: Main protected, you know what I mean, And I respect it, and Bron we trust, Yeah, I respect.

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Speaker 3: I respect. That's why he tipped. That's why he took the meter from me.

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Speaker 15: Because he's doing this and then off the court, you can't even come on, come on, yeah, that right there.

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Speaker 1: We ain't say nothing like that from a superstar.

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Speaker 15: Like like you know, Brian and Brian name and snuck into my my my rants. And just what I mean by that is like when I'm having a conversation with my bros or whatever and I'm you know, my artists or whatever, and I'm like, you know, I want to talk about a nigga with money money, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It used to be it still is, you know. I like nigga J nigause. You know, nigga, I'm trying to get through what you.

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Speaker 15: Know, not ship Brian, know that Brian is snuck into one of them. Com call me off going, I'm right like you know, the niggas Brian niggah Brian Man, all right boy, yeah, I mean that's it's amazing. But brought the team with him. Yeah, and then the school ship and all that ship. Come on, man, but you don't really care about to where you still? You know what I mean, don't do nothing. You ain't j because I believe when you get money like that.

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Speaker 3: You don't do nothing. You don't. You ain't genuine.

00:23:40
Speaker 15: About I'm too rich to give a fuck about some ship that you're asking me to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the show, man, Vic Mensa, right these three, m J Kobe Lebron. You're a little younger too, so I'm interested in hearing your opinion. I'm from Chicago, so yeah, okay, okay, well you all right, yeah you all right? Now you can't. I mean, I honestly going, Jordan Kobe Bron, you know what I mean? There you go, There you go, yeah, there you go. That's no, that's no disrespect. I mean nobody I'm not the deepest.

00:24:17
Speaker 16: Basketball fan, but I have an enormous respect for Lebron's ability.

00:24:21
Speaker 1: I mean, like as a.

00:24:23
Speaker 16: Like technical player, he could funk around and be like the greatest.

00:24:27
Speaker 1: But I think it's something about the.

00:24:29
Speaker 16: Kobe the mindset, and I think the era of like one guy, damn team.

00:24:36
Speaker 1: It's like it's hard to beat that.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's gonna be hard to beat Lebron's career, but no, Lebron's Wow. Like you know what I'm saying, you can't be Lebron's field, but you've never seen a better player to make.

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Speaker 1: But also just think, never the fact. To me, in any order of those three, I'm good with three. You talk about those. To me, those are the three greatest players.

00:24:59
Speaker 9: To did y'all play all the I played with m J?

00:25:03
Speaker 1: I didn't play m I played the last I played against all three? Who then?

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Speaker 16: Who was the most problem?

00:25:11
Speaker 9: Problems?

00:25:12
Speaker 1: When I played against m J.

00:25:13
Speaker 8: When you play against m J, you in all it's like it's just real, like and I have a I'm really playing against this, like it's you in awe. When you play against Kobe, it's a fear, you know, It's like, man, he's really trying to embarrass you. You know what I'm saying. When you when when you play against Braun, it's just like there's nothing you can do. Okay, you know what I'm saying. It's it's it's like who is this man?

00:25:37
Speaker 10: Real?

00:25:38
Speaker 4: Like you're staying next to it.

00:25:39
Speaker 1: But especially if here hitting his jumper to you, you can.

00:25:42
Speaker 4: Do bigger than you.

00:25:44
Speaker 1: He's faster than you, stronger than everything. So that's how I explained it. You know what I'm saying. I had better than Braun was here all Jordan's.

00:25:54
Speaker 8: Right, you all Jordan, You scared of Kobe and you just like hopeless to Braun.

00:25:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hope.

00:25:59
Speaker 16: That made me think about how a lot of times when when people go fight, uh Canelo, not to say Canelos it is Jordan, but like I watched people like fight so scared against him. That's why like Crawford was able to come in and do his thing because he wasn't scared, you know what I'm saying. But a lot of time you see, you see when people are coming there with him overthinking man, they so caught up on who he is.

00:26:20
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Good call my brother Quavo. M J Kobe Bron rank.

00:26:29
Speaker 17: Them ship, Uh gotta do Bron Bron first?

00:26:34
Speaker 1: How do you thirty four? I like to Yeah, I like to see first, just a heavy second.

00:26:44
Speaker 3: I go Kobe second and m.

00:26:49
Speaker 17: J third only because ninety six I was wanted ninety one, you know how, Like I didn't get the I didn't understand that when I watched the clips. I understand why y'all calling it was the only skilled guy that was doing everything. But like if you put him a bunch of whole, like if everybody, I don't think he do the same thing.

00:27:07
Speaker 1: You put you on the league. Now he's gonna have forty five.

00:27:09
Speaker 17: I don't think so. I don't think so everybody do the same. We all they all eat. You got shape like all of them.

00:27:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't touch him.

00:27:18
Speaker 17: But you can't touch him now. He fought through all his Yeah, but I never I'm sorry, Black number two, I don't care. I don't kill him Black number two. I go Lebron first, Black second, and then Kobe.

00:27:37
Speaker 1: Long live Kobe Man the.

00:27:39
Speaker 14: Hummy Uncle sh Shay Shannon shop man man. Thanks for having me on it. We got to get out this notion. If I say I like apples and oranges. You can't say, oh, you hate bananas.

00:27:51
Speaker 1: And great you gotta hate you can love both.

00:27:55
Speaker 14: I said, why just care I like apples and oranges. I didn't say anything about it. I don't mean I disliked Greg that there there is enough greatness and just because I choose one of the other doesn't mean I like it. Okay, if I say, if I say Lebron was better than Kobe, that doesn't mean I dislike Kobe. But here's something that people don't really know. I used to cap for Kobe harder than what I cared for Lebron.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: Didn't know that.

00:28:24
Speaker 14: Finally admitting it, You finally admitting it on the show, what that you used to go harder for Kobe did?

00:28:31
Speaker 4: Thank you?

00:28:32
Speaker 14: Thank you people that nobody knew that my friend was telling them. The guy that cuts my hair. He said, here's a funny thing, and nobody was gonna ever believe this. He went harder for Kobe than he ever did for Lebron. Kobe was my guy. Kobe, Kobe was my man. You couldn't tell me nothing about so I had, so this I was I had.

00:28:56
Speaker 1: Kobe.

00:28:56
Speaker 9: Kobe was my guy.

00:28:58
Speaker 14: He liked Lebron, so I said, okay, Kobe, so we got cobD.

00:29:03
Speaker 4: I got Kobe, you got Lebron.

00:29:05
Speaker 9: We can never change players. You got to.

00:29:07
Speaker 14: Stay with Kobe, but I gotta stay with Kobe. Bail but you gotta stay with Lebron.

00:29:11
Speaker 9: He from d C.

00:29:13
Speaker 14: He know about this kid named Kevin Durant, so he won't KD.

00:29:18
Speaker 1: He won't KD.

00:29:19
Speaker 14: Now I'll say, I'll tell you what. I'll make you a deal. Get getting Bron James Okay, with KD. K with KD came to the NBA, I got Lebron. He took KD. So now I got Kobe and I got Lebron.

00:29:37
Speaker 8: So y'all see y'all doing your own little bomber shop trade.

00:29:43
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Ryan Coogler Man, m J. Kobe Bron. What's your order me? Yeah, MJ. Kobe Bron?

00:29:49
Speaker 9: Am I taking biashot of it?

00:29:51
Speaker 1: Take out or put up whatever you want to?

00:29:53
Speaker 9: I mean, look, bro, what am I ranking?

00:29:55
Speaker 1: Like?

00:29:56
Speaker 9: What in your opinion? Bron?

00:29:59
Speaker 18: Okay, I'll tell you why. Because he did it with social media and it's just the devil, bro Like, it's just the devil, like like cameras everywhere and and and him being on the cover of Sports Illustrated when he was a teenager. Bro Like Jordan had to deal with that. Kobe had to deal with that too. But but but it wasn't as advanced as it is now for him to have navigated it.

00:30:23
Speaker 9: And Bruh, none of them.

00:30:27
Speaker 18: Had to play Steph bro like like like like like they're like, you know, the closest, the closest, the closest j had to Steph was was was Reggie. You know what I'm saying. The closest Cob had to deal with Steph was was Ray you.

00:30:41
Speaker 9: Know what I'm saying.

00:30:43
Speaker 18: Like like the fact that bron like got got got got you know, got full rings in a Super Team era.

00:30:50
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, when Cash is clicking up, you know, you know what I mean.

00:30:53
Speaker 18: And even though he participated in that, you know what I'm saying, but still and and and in that Steph and that that Steph that three point shot era, you know what I mean, change the game, like the fact that he the fact that he was able to and also you know, be a be a be the be the story that heat that he is with all this, with all of the mind fuck that is the Internet you know what I'm saying, Mike, we just saw Mike when he was playing, you know what I'm saying.

00:31:18
Speaker 9: That was it like he know he could go be, he could go be, he could go be who he.

00:31:22
Speaker 18: Was off off off camera, and you know what I'm saying. So I got, I got. You know, it pains me to shay that, bro because I love I love Mike, and I saw that. I saw the second three Pele Mike. I didn't see the first three.

00:31:34
Speaker 9: P Mike, I was before my time. That that's just crazy dominating, you.

00:31:39
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

00:31:40
Speaker 18: But but I caught him like post retirement basically. But in terms of like who is a better player? You know what, I know what I'm saying, Like that's that's impossible to also like different body types, you know you know what I mean, Like like like like bron is a is an unfair type of specially you guarded. You guarded to it to a three, So like you could you could tell me who was more who's more difficult to guard.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: Difficult for me to guard?

00:32:04
Speaker 3: Was?

00:32:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get me wrong, bron is great, but difficult guard is cold because it's more reaction to your mistakes. Yeah, bron is fast, strong, and if you're there, it don't matter. He can go through you or over you. Yeah. But Kobe was more like attacking the foot, attacking a hand, attacking an angle tactician and then once if you caught up to him, he would shot fa blew.

00:32:21
Speaker 9: My mind meeting him was how big he was.

00:32:23
Speaker 1: How big he was six six Yeah, big dude.

00:32:26
Speaker 18: Like like like like you know, to be as quick an ash. Koby was more more tactical. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that's that's that's that's what's I feel like, bro.

00:32:36
Speaker 1: Have it's the best. Like I said, I mean, my job every night was to guard the best.

00:32:40
Speaker 9: Like did you ever guard Ai?

00:32:41
Speaker 3: No?

00:32:42
Speaker 1: I didn't have to guard. I didn't want them problems.

00:32:46
Speaker 18: I think about I think about that, I think about cold, I think I think about getting the ringeah in an aira.

00:32:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was a problem. Have you met him? He's little just over zoomed, Okay, so person.

00:33:01
Speaker 18: I seen him in person. I was in the nosebleedze at the All Star Game in two thousand and two. In two thousand and three, when it was nineteen ninety two thousand, two thousand in Oakland.

00:33:12
Speaker 9: With the dunk Vinch when bench stuck in an arm in there. That's what I seen.

00:33:16
Speaker 18: And because because because what happened with Ai was wash. When Vince was going through the he had like his last attempts. People don't people don't talk about this, but his last attempt was a free throw dunk, and Ai was the first one to walk to the He walked, he went on the baseline and walked to the free throw line and laid down on his stomach to see to see if he could if he could if he could witness where his foot was jump. And when he did that, everybody did it, like every everybody went, everybody went laid down next to him. So that was my only time seeing Ai and person you feel me that But that game one he had against the.

00:33:50
Speaker 1: Bro crazy, that was the only game the Lakers lost the whole playoffs.

00:33:54
Speaker 9: That's my top sports performance I've ever seen.

00:33:57
Speaker 1: Brolong in there had like forty two.

00:33:59
Speaker 9: My two eyes bro when he stepped over, when he stepped over to Bro.

00:34:07
Speaker 1: And Welcome to the show. Ralph Samford ranked these three in your opinion, MJ Lebron Kobe.

00:34:12
Speaker 19: You know because I played against MJ College m Pro. I mean he's the number one. But what I like about MJ was he you know, he could bounce back. He was a student of the game, He had a he had a he built a mindset that no one has ever done pretty much right, and he wanted to win. And he was putting the situation in the league against the bad boys and we're trying to kill him against Baltimore's try to killing him. And you see the one against Monty where he's doing his nas.

00:34:43
Speaker 1: On bird and whatever. He's fading.

00:34:45
Speaker 19: Even then the alimals toward sixty points the mindset. If you talk about monster, he's got the best one. He's got maybe the best game, but he got the best one because if he didn't have the mindset.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: To kill him.

00:34:57
Speaker 19: And Kobe followed that, you know, Anna no order because of their their career right, and Lebron would be next. Everybody sailse Lebron down't have the same mindset. Well, he didn't have to because he's strolling anybody else he can play with another five years.

00:35:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna stay in shape. I'm shooting jumpers six two sixty, But I don't beat anybody else with him.

00:35:17
Speaker 19: You ain't got to be physical you know, you gotta be.

00:35:21
Speaker 1: I was so.

00:35:21
Speaker 19: I hope he goes back to Cleveland win the championship.

00:35:24
Speaker 3: There.

00:35:24
Speaker 1: I just said that you did yesterday.

00:35:26
Speaker 19: They gotta squad you go back and walk at home win the championship.

00:35:29
Speaker 1: That's gonna help his legacy.

00:35:30
Speaker 3: And he keep losing and ain't gonna have it.

00:35:34
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Maria, Manuel and Pops. All right, you can rank these individually or together, m J. Kobe Bron. It's how you said it, m J.

00:35:42
Speaker 2: Kobe Bron's I mean, and I got you know, maybe maybe somebody else the number.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: Three, but who you got three? I gotta go Curry, Steph and then and then and then I go Magic and then I go Bron. Yeah, yeah, okay, that what about you?

00:35:59
Speaker 9: I'll even like it is.

00:36:00
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

00:36:04
Speaker 3: Don't fix I could go back and get Oscar.

00:36:06
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know, but yeah, hey, Jimple double king, I don't know Oscar problems with them three.

00:36:12
Speaker 9: Though, you be right right, you're right.

00:36:21
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Danny Green, m J. Kobe Bron rank them on the spot. My goat is m J.

00:36:28
Speaker 20: Of course, I think Bron has the greatest career of all time. Yes, so I'm gonna go one and two m J and then Bron. And it's tough to put Cold three because but I think I appreciate him more when he stopped playing toward the end of his career. I think, you know, as young kid, always liked Mike so much, I thought Cold was just a imitation. Yeah, imitation of Mike, And it was like, Oh, he's not Mike, you know, so I kind of I want to say I hate it on him, but yeah, but I appreciate it more once I got to the league, played against him, and then years seeing how many years he played, and then after of seeing how his mind worked and his footwork unbelievable. I think he probably the most skilled at all three. Yeah, he had the best footwork. Mike was just good. He did one move, you ain't stopping it.

00:37:16
Speaker 1: Keep doing it.

00:37:16
Speaker 20: I'm gonna shoot sixty percent doing it. Letnn get the free the line. Cole probably the most skilled out of those three.

00:37:22
Speaker 1: What's what's Somebody told the difference between Mike and Craig Hodges, Creg Hodges. We had Craig Hodges. So he said the difference is hands because he said Kobe would go shoot two free throws for everything Mike was making for and once so Mike's hands were so much bigger, so Kobe would have to do it with two hands. Michael moved that bitch in one hand and finish it. And it made a lot of.

00:37:46
Speaker 20: A lot of sense, Bro because quiet big he don't have the jump us how to get to that rim. And also, you think you're in a safe space, would dribble like, oh I'm comfortable, or if you get this.

00:37:56
Speaker 1: If you put it in, if you get down in your real triple threat, then big ass come across everything and take everything everything, like.

00:38:03
Speaker 20: Reach a position where you think it's comfortable, safe space. He's taking the ball man. So yeah, Mike, I think I think he's probably the reason why they do the hand testing.

00:38:12
Speaker 1: I think so. Welcome to the show. The one and Only Miss Cynthia Cooper. Great these three names, MJ, Kobe, Bron. MJ is one.

00:38:28
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go with my boy Kobe. That's two, that's how I do it too, and Lebron three. But Lebron is a beast. Yes, the longevity, the game, the pressure he's been under to perform every single year, and he shows up and shows out every time.

00:38:51
Speaker 3: Sixty.

00:38:52
Speaker 19: Yeah.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: But when you talk about mentality, though, you gotta talk about Cole.

00:38:57
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:38:57
Speaker 2: When you talk about just the mentality, just the assassin type of mentality, you gotta you gotta mention Kobe's name every single time, like how he confronted a game, how he confronted practice workouts, and you know, I'm with him. People want to know how you become a Hall of Famer when you start playing basketball at fifteen. Is that you put in the work right. You put in the work when nobody else was looking. You put in the work right. And Kobe talks about his work ethic all the time.

00:39:26
Speaker 1: And damn, MJ.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: He was way before his time. He just he just just nobody can stop him. Like what whatever era he played in, he would have been MJ.

00:39:38
Speaker 3: Him.

00:39:42
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Charlie Sheen. I mean, why is there even a debate? Right right? Right? Never lived?

00:39:51
Speaker 5: I mean it just feels kind of obvious, right.

00:39:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're a big is everything. It's kind obvious, right, Rank these three in your order, m J. Kobe Lebron the order you just presented them, Okay, that's how I go. Enough you simple enough, you co sign that?

00:40:15
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, okay, yes, no distress, no disrespect, mamba, but okay, yeah, right on.

00:40:26
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Ben Affleck.

00:40:28
Speaker 9: M J.

00:40:29
Speaker 8: Kobe Brown Rankling, m J Kobe, Lebron, m J Bron Kobe

00:40:41
Speaker 3: Mm hmm