Lindsay Price Meets World

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Speaker 1: I actually just read something about how um people that are more creative are are just scatterbrained when it comes to actually planning things, and so my logistical skills are just awful. Like two of the three of us on this zoom are really good at it. It's just creat No, it's just I think it's you know, like it's one of those things you just learn. You have to learn it, you know. And I think like being an actor as a teenager, we didn't learn it, like, you know, we had to learn it, you And I think being an actor is actually puts you out of disability because you just have to like wait for the phone to call and somebody else takes care of the schedule and you just get told when to show up. It's like so there's like a part of your brand that you just don't develop, you know. Where it's like I learned in college, you know, like that's where I had to like figure out how to like keep to a schedule and you know, and then of course directing that's all you're doing, is well. I would back in the day when I would write my schedule out because I would I would actually physically write out of schedule and then it became all on your phone and then my phone for some reason. And I was talking to husband, producer Jensen Carp about this, which is what I call him as well. He's everyone's husband and he is um where It's like occasionally my reminders will pop up and then other times they just don't, and I'm still putting it in. I'm adding every time I'm supposed to do, but it'll just you know, I'll get a call going like, you know, you had a dentist appointment, and I'll be like, wait, I put that. I know I put that in, and I'll look and it'll be like, yeah, denis appointment eleven a m. It's like, okay, I have the reminder set for twenty four hours before and then twelve hours and it just never popped up. So I've now we've got the giant pay Burt calendar. We have stuff put in different colors and all that kind of stuff. So and then the good thing is the only thing you need to use your phone for is take a picture of it. Every time a new thing gets added to it, delete the old one. And then you also have a picture in your phone of your giant calendar. So yeah, that's why about. I asked, like to just send me a list. So he just sent me the list, like, here are the days we're recording. I take a screenshot of it, and I can look at that every time, be like good, and I put that on the calendar and I know that that's there. So the kind of these like because I'm also on a o L so some of them are going to Google and some of them it's so confusing. I want a paper thing that just says you have to be here such and such a time, right right. But I'm also would like the hotel to call you in the morning and tell you what you're doing, just just a nice, straightforward yes, that's the way the world should be. It worked, my friend, It worked all the time. It's getting too damn kids, some things are over over engineered. It's getting too confusing with a lot of this stuff. I do have some interesting possible news, though I haven't yet decided. I might rejoin Instagram. Oh yeah, I miss because I miss the funny stuff like you unhappy. It wasn't that The whole point is that it increased your anxiety. It made me anxious. But I'm wondering if I do it. My own way. They're literally algorithms to increase your anxiety. Oh, I agree, catch your attention. It's the attention economy, right, like and and if you I mean, I hate it, really I hate it, but I also I do enjoy it. But like, I have to have set limits for myself. But that's what I have to do. Away from it. It's great, but that's what I have to do. You have to say, like, there's certain things where I've take It sounds so ridiculous, but with like with Sammy with the dog, I've taken pictures and it's like I would love people to see the picture of the dog. I like reading, so Sue will hand me the phone and I get to read wonderful things about pod Meats World because again I'm not on so I can't look at our Instagram feed, and there's really nice stuff. Like when when my friend Kevin passed away, I wanted to do something nice and it's like there was nothing I could do, so I reached out to the pod Meats World kind of thing. But I was just thinking, yeah, it'd be nice to kind of have some kind of touch with what's going on. Can I make a suggestion please? Why don't you open first a fin stuff, which is who did the fake? A fake Instagram so it would basically be a private one that the public doesn't know about. And and yes bill for underscore, for score for dill that good idea, and then you can see without having to make the public m announcement of hey, I'm back. And then what if you decide I'm leaving again and you're like, you could at least a bowl in it. You can follow things that make you happy, uh, post a few things you know, tell us, tell tell your friends who who will also then comments so that you can see just basically dip your toe in and see if it spikes your anxiety. Again, it may not because it's not a real test because it'll just be close friends and family, but even even just the habit of going to it may make you anxious and you'll know, you know what, It's not for me, But I at least think it's a it's a good practice rock because I know not to writer always wants to talk about food. But that's one of the other things I love on Instagram is there's some great like recipe ones, like really good ones. So it's like I never thought of dipping a taco and chocolate and wrapping and whoops around it. Great idea. So like stuff like that would be kind of cool. And there's some car ones that I like. Like there's things I miss, but I don't miss being told I'm fat and stupid. That I can get that from regular friends. I don't need that, right, we do that every every week. I think maybe then you could you could start with a fin step, because then you could just truly follow the things that you love and see if it gives you exactly what you need without any of the bad stuff. That's a good idea. I'll start with a fin sta. Look at you. It's no one will know it. No one will know. Just the one million people who listened to this podcast every month, every month. Yes, okay, all right, good idea. All right, all right, Welcome to pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Writer Strong, I'm Chuck Fredell. Are you named in honor of Chuck Norris? Is that everything? Excuse me? It's sir Charles. You remember when we met him? Writer? Do you remember when we met? Are you kidding me? You and I with him at a convention. We said, we spoke with him at a convention. I forget. I don't think I was there, you were, because we then were like we just talked to Sir Charles Dorris. It was the same one we met Alexa Bliss at remember that? No, okay, look at this is this is what I remember. I can't remember when I have to show up to podcast, but no, I just don't. Honestly, probably didn't know who anybody was, Like I'm just so bad with celebrities, Like I'm literally like, oh is a wrestler, Chuck Nor. Yeah, we talked to me, came in, He's like, hey, how you doing. We were like, to be clear, you do remember now meeting Alexa Bliss? Okay, and you and maybe but not that. Sir Charles was also I'm sure, I mean, look at these conventions. What Here's what happens. Okay at conventions with Wilford LL by the way, That's what I'm That's what I'm about to describe the experience of going into a convention with Wilford, especially back then, which is probably like my first or second convention. I'm like, I'm a scared, nervous, shy little actor and and and and taking me by the hand, is the mayor of convention Town, Wilford, l who not only knows everybody has worked with, everybody knows all their cartoon voices that they've done. They don't even remember which ones they've done. And he'll be like, I remember that episode and blah blah blah, and we and he'll sit and talk with fifty people in the green room while I'm just like trying to get a cup of coffee and he'll like drag me over and be like, writer if you mentioned and I'm like, of course, but you were on our show once. Oh, and it's like this rural wind chaos of like like for me, it's just pure panic and for him much fun. He's just in his element. He was just like, I'm a nerd damage with backstage schmuzing with awesome people, and I'm like, I am so insecure. All I want to do is find a corner with a book and how do I get away? Because I don't know who anybody is and people know who I am and I've worked with them, apparently terrify. Well, the very good news is that we have somebody today who you have definitely worked with, you have worked with more than once, and really Oh yeah, you did remember, and you remember her, and so no one is going to have to convince you that you work together. Uh. I am very excited today that we have Lindsay Price on the podcast. She was in the very memorable Teachers Bet episode, which was season one, episode eight, in Lindsay played Linda Eric's new girlfriend who was called a racial slur at the mall. And I know those of you who listened to our podcast will definitely remember this episode. Um, we had a really great time rewatching it and touching on it. And when I tell you, we got so many emails after that podcast episode from people who talked about how truly life changing it was to see Lindsay on the show and to have that experience spoken about. I mean, we got tons of emails about it. So Lindsay is was a very special guest for us to have and we are happy to invite her here today. Welcome to the pod, Lindsay PRICESH Wow to see you, so good, so good to see you. Um, did you get completely hounded on social media about everybody saying we were looking for you? Yes? And I was like, well dah, like of course, all talk to you guys social media thing is so amazing. It's like this magical I feel like sometimes sometimes like pulls you to people you're supposed to be, you know, talk to you anyway. But that was so cool. Yeah, you were you. We recapped the episode that you were in Teachers Bet, which we all have such strong memories of you from this week. I first of all, I'll talk about my memory of you because I didn't have any scenes with Lindsay, but I was a twelve year old girl. I had a very small part in the episode, but I was twelve years old, and I thought you were the one most beautiful woman I had ever seen. And two was so absolutely out of my mind impressed with what an incredible actress you were. No offense to the other people the zoom with us, but I was like, oh she she's doing Yeah, you made me feel really bad about myself. It was I'll get into that story because it was it's still one of the moments. Let you take it now, well, but I you left such an impression on all of us. But go ahead, well, well we were we were like Hi, By the way, how I think the last time I saw you? It was um, I remember we were waiting to go on stage. The audience was there, and you and I had to walk on and it was for the scene where you're crying to to come back from the mall, and you looked at me and you went, give me a second, and you turned around and you turned back and you were bawling, and I was like, oh, oh, that's how you do it. It was I just remember thinking to myself like it was so unbelievably impressive that I remember just going, oh, I'm not even close to being in in any league with this. It was insane. It was can you still do that? Lindsay? I think I can. I think I can. You know, I remember it's interesting because that, you know, the subject matter of the episode for me, in my life until that point, I had really, you know, not really experienced a lot of racism, to be honest, sort of lived in this world that was you know, I'm sure it was there, but we just didn't talk about it. In my family, my my, my, my support system was always like, you know, you are who you are, specifically who you are, and you should be proud of it. But I remember like not really realizing until that that moment that I hadn't really got an opportunity to really act the way that my friends had because my parts were so few, far, so few and far between, because of the way that I looked. And I remember having a moment because I think I was sick fifteen or sixteen, I can't remember, like this is my I've been in tons of you know, girl number two roles and girlfriend roles and you know, like ancillary characters. But this was something, this was my chance to do something really significant. And I remember being backstage with you Will and I remember being like, okay, like don't screw it up, you know, and I had my trip and I knew what to do and I knew how to go there. But it was it wasn't even so much a transference, like I wasn't I wasn't imagining that it was happening to me. I just really like became the character. I was a very serious actor in that moment, you know, which is hard to do on a half an hour show. By the way, I felt like such a weirdo, but not already. I mean, what had you been taking a bunch of acting classes at that point? I mean you because you were you were clearly a pro, and you were the same age as us or as will at least, and and yet it didn't. It felt like you were leads, more advanced and confident, and like we're all sort of like flailing children, and like it's so funny to hear you say that you hadn't played big roles, because I guess that that's true, but like you must have had experience, Like how do I needed? I did? I started when I was by by guess, but by accident. It was like something I did that was also like you know, ballet or soccer. It was like a you know, a side thing that I did. But around that age, I really decided that I wanted to be an actor. I loved the make believed, I loved storytelling. I loved being an actor. And so I was in in a great acting class. I don't know if you guys ever went, but it was a young actor's space and Diane Harden. Diane Harden, Yeah, it was amazing. And those classes for me, they took me from being you know, um, quite like shy and sort of awkward kid into into into really knowing that I wanted to be an actor. Was all around that that time, so I had the you know, I knew what to do. I knew how to get there, but it was kind of miraculous that it happened because, by the way, I had a massive crush on you will and I'm so nervous no when you're here first massive because I was never like in a real high school situation. Was sort of in and out of school, and I was kind of like a I was sort of like a nerd at school and like, so every time I went on too a set and met new people, it was like exciting, and of course you were and are charming and handsome, and you know, I just was like, how am I supposed to do this job? But anyway, guys, I do want to say to your question writer a few things Lindsay did before she joined us on Boy Meat's World. She had done Days of Our Lives, The Wonder Years, New Heart. Parker Lewis can't lose everything. Hundred and seventies six episodes in three years of all my children. Oh that's right, that's right. But but a hundred and seventy six episodes, where that means they filmed in like three weeks, right, okay, And that's the things you do, like six a day, such a pro you were like you had done the soap factory. Oh my god, soap operas are crazy. So I'm sorry there was one that jumped out there because I have to ask, and then we have to get back to you having a crush on me because I still think you're lying. But did you work with Bob Newhart? Yes? I worked with Bob Newhart. I played a campfire girl, um with a couple of other girls, and I remember vividly. I remember knowing like being in his presence was that's an honor, you know, huge, I mean comedy legend, legend. Oh that's so cool. Oh man, that is so cool. Did you live in the Oak Woods? I never lived in the Oak Woods because I was from the Los Angeles area, but I didn't move to New York and do that soap. That's right. For a couple of years I forgot that this that was before this, but that you know, you have to learn eighty pages a day or something crazy like that, and so, oh my gosh, yeah, that's crazy crazy. But that's like an acting school. I mean, you're just you get to just keep churning it out. It's right. At that point, you've just got it. Yeah, right, And the and the writing usually on soaps is not great, and you're kind of trying to make things real that don't feel real at all, right, which isn't even harder than to memorize, because there's no A lot of the times you're like, this isn't a natural response to what was just said to me. So it's not even like, well that would come naturally anyway. It's like you have to really remember stuff that, especially when you have amnesia and you're your own twin right, hardest thing in the world crazy. Now do you remember auditioning for the role of Linda. I do I remember? Um, you know, when you have the audition and you don't obviously you don't know how it's going to go back then you know, when it wasn't on zoom, you're in your room when you have that one moment which I miss so much. I missed that moment where it's kind of like you either rides through the occasion or you don't. I remember walking out being like, nailed it, you know, Yes, that's the best feeling. And years later, actually the casting director whose name I forget, Sally Steiner, Sally Salie. Yes, Barbie Black, but season one I don't think Barbie was there. I think it was just Sally. Barbie didn't come in, I think until season two. Somebody told me that they would teach that my audition. This is this is like my this is this is why I wanted to talk to you guys, because it's probably the pinnacle of my career. Like I never won the world. That was really good. I'm boy's world. They said that they taught my audition in an acting class, which was about, like, you know, even though it could be in a comedy or it could be you know, the moment is sort of compacted. It's the preparation, it's you know, being connected, it's it's playing the truth. And she said that she she would teach that um that story, she'd tell that story and audition in classes. I I'm I know this is I'm making a grandiose kind of statement, but to me, it is one of the most real acting moments in the seven years of our show. And to see that right at the beginning, to me was like, I wasn't joking when I said I felt like I felt like I didn't belong there. It was one of those things where when you see you think you're good at something, and then you see somebody else where they're just on a different level. It really throws you a bit because it was it was it was one of those things where it was so real and happened so quickly that I just remember thinking to myself, like I'm never going to get there, Like I I'm never going to get there. It also it also saves an episode that otherwise could be really hokey, right, Like you have this idea of like the teacher letting the student teach the class, and then you want to have it arrive at a place where it's going to become essentially a very special episode about racism, and like that's that's a huge leaked you know, especially for like episodes seven of a sitcom with twelve year olds. You know, Like so the fact that I think your performance anchors it and makes it makes it possible, you know, makes it happen because you're like, oh, oh, this is a real person really experiencing something that is not funny, and it's not played for a joke or played over the top. It's like just feels very it's jarring in the best possible way. Yeah, I mean, I I have so few memories of a lot of season one stuff, even episodes that I was a big part of, and I had such a tiny little part in Teacher's Bet and yet I remember you and and those run throughs because you cried for run throughs and you and you, uh, you were, I mean, you were truly spectacular. And so it's it's like I have such big memories from that week and I was like barely there, but I just remember watching you and being like, now that's an actor. So I remember you. I remember your hair. You had these cool big curly that hits the stars. All it was really, it was really it's really hard to come onto a set, especially at that age where you're already so self conscious and you know, to come onto a set. And you, guys, I didn't realize it was only seven episodes in, but you were pretty locked into each other. And I guess back then too, I didn't ever really think, to be honest, like, if I really think about that time, I had been at it for so long, and with with the exception of the soap which I played the cook's illegal immigrant daughter, I needed a green card. Okay, with the exception of the soap, I was never asked to be a serious regular, Like there wasn't anyone on television um of Asian descent that was like a lead or a series regular on television time. So to to get a chance to like have a role that had something to say in some meaning, especially this particular type of a story, it was really important to me, you know, and awesome that they would write this story, you know, for kids to it at that time become aware of just how we we feel and how we treat people that are you know, different of different colors. So that whole week was such an interesting week all the way around because it also, again seven episodes in, you're still essentially trying to set the tone of what the show is going to be, so to kind of jump to something like writer said, very special episode, but I thought there's times we did very special episodes that didn't have the hokey music, and so they didn't really come come off as very special episodes. We can we we look at them like that now. But that's I remember this week kind of going like, oh, this isn't this isn't gonna be the but bump bump sitcom every week, And this was kind of the they established that right at the jump, I mean, which is pretty impressive for a nineties quote unquote kid show to do that right away. I thought was interesting, And again, you're right, writer, it wouldn't have been as good if it was anybody but Lindsay, which is true because the performance is what's sold it. Lindsay, do you remember feeling like like it was an uncomfortable week for you to come in then as a guest star and what was essentially doing, like playing the heaviest role and having all of this drama to do. I mean, we were all amazed, but also was there a part of you that's like I wish I got to come on and kind of just have some fun. Yeah. Um, I remember feeling comfortable. I remember you guys all made me feel so comfortable, but I remember it was strange. It's kind of an abstract thought, but I remember being embarrassed, like I had to do something that meant I don't know. I remember feeling exposed in a way. You know what I mean. You have to you have to make yourself super vulnerable to do something like that. Um. In fact, before we did that scene, I remember feeling just like a flush of embarrassment and thinking like I could use this like, I'll just use this because obviously that's how you would feel, right, But um, I love comedy and and and most of my career. Like if I looked at everything on my resume, it's pretty calm, pretty heavy. So I watch you guys through the unders and think how great it feels to have that live audience like actually laugh and get the immediate like feedback like that. Yeah, so you know, yeah, I like being on I liked being on a multi camera stage. I liked that was one of my first times as like an older kid that that I got to spend a week, you know, in a situation like that, and I loved being there. Good. Well. We also after your episode of pod Meats World aired, where we recapped your episode, we got a ton of emails from listeners who very fondly remember this episode, most importantly your appearance on it, and um, we actually read a very beautiful letter after your episode aired that explained that primetime TV was just mostly white families and then there were a few black families, especially on t G I F, but like Asian representation just didn't exist, and so seeing you and addressing someone who everyone who looked like you was also experiencing in real time in the real world really meant a lot to them. So like you being there really made an impact. And um, did you ever hear that kind of reaction? Like during in the nineties, did people come up to you and ever talk to you about your appearance on Boy MEA's World. Does it come up still like what is your what is your feedback been? Yeah, it's it's amazing because when when I started to see stuff on social media that you guys were doing the show and that you reviewed this particular episode, Um, it reminded me that throughout my life since I've done since I did the episode, people come up to me and tell me how much how much it meant. Um, there's this like, uh we call it Asian prom but it's like the Asian Asians and film and television like awards show, um every year. And I was sitting at a table with a bunch of actors who are like killing it right now, and um, this this boy said to me, Um, you're like a trailblazer. And ever since your episode on Boy Meat's World, Um, we we knew that we could like it could be possible. You know. It kind of put me away because I'm like, well, ay, old people are trailblazers, so a year old Yeah, I just never really, I just didn't know. I mean, your show has such a massive impact young people. It's really incredible, and and it's still it still runs and it's still it's still carries you know, um, all of the amazing entertainment and value that it does. You know that it did back then. You probably recently received a Seventh Center residual check. Probably we probably got voting it. Oh man. So later you ended up working with writer on Pepper Dennis and that is where writer met Pepper Tennis. His wife talked to us about that show. Writer and Lindsay, well, we met. We we had a dinner. We we got cast separately, obviously, and then we had a dinner where the cast got together with Sewn Levy, who was directing the pilot. And I just remember seeing Lindsay and being like hey, and you were like hey, and then we like sat down. It was so fun It was like, yeah, that's right. We were on Boy Meeats World together, And it's so funny to think now, like what you're saying about the how how big Boy Meats World sort of has has how long it's lasted, because at that time this would have been two thousand and five, two thousand six, it felt like deep history, Like I was like I did not want to talk about Boy Meets World was appointing it. Meanwhile, it was like still airing and like finding a whole new audience, Like I think most of our listeners are actually of that generation watching it on Disney Show. But at the time, I remember just trying to be anything but Seawn from Boy Meat's World. And yeah, we got casts on this show Pepper Dennis, which was super fun. It was probably one of the most fun jobs I've ever had. Um, what characters did you play? We were we only okay. So what happened is it was a big show at the time. It was um Rebecca Rebecca's Romaine. It was her. It was a built around her, and it was on the UH the WB before they merge, and because she had to shoot X Men two, we got postponed after we got picked up, after the pilot, we got postponed. So by the time we got actually started shooting our our season, we were two episodes in when they announced the merge with the up n U, p N and w B merge, and what that meant was that basically a show like ours, which hadn't aired yet, was just dead in the water. And so we were like I remember driving to work on our second or third episode when the announcement came. I remember calling my agent and being like, what does this mean. They're like, we'll just enjoy the next thirteen episodes have fun, and I was like, and then we did. We just like kind of knew our show like was never gonna get picked up, and we had a blastmaking it, Like I just you know, and that's how I met my wife, like and we're still together. Like it ended up having a huge impact on my life, you know. But as an as experience, it kind of felt like we were all just a summer camp for the rest of the season, like, all right, no one's watching this show, so let's just enjoy each other's company. And we did exactly, and it was sort of like it was a one hour comedy and that that's my favorite, that's my sweet spot, like you know, the Ally mcbeel's and the you know, and Gretchen and Aaron, who wrote the show, had that like very snappy, rom com smart fun Journalist was set in a new news show. It was all like seppy, witty dialogue was very cool. Yeah, can you see it anywhere? Thankly? Not like I don't even I don't think I've seen I haven't even seen all the episodes. I don't think, because back then there wasn't even Tebow or whatever whatever. The first one was called whatever it was called back then. Do you remember the w B? When you called them, they used to have to answer the phone dubb a dubb a dubb a WB. So we would just call over and over and over again. Wait, what do you mean you would call them? You call this? We would call them. We would call you if you when you call it, like we got the number when we were on the set towards the end, and so we would They would go like dubble dubbub a w B and then we'd laugh and hang up and call. It was awful. It was awful, just under pieces on the phone and we just kept we would just call over and over because because it was such a funny way to have to answer the phone. Yeah, that's tangent. I love how Will spent his time ter we were in school, were in school, calling the work. I was never gonna have a career as an actor, so I had to figure something else out, Uh, Lindsay, we talk a lot about burnout here on the show, and especially like burnout is so common with child actors, and as we mentioned, you worked a lot more than us because you were a real actor. Was there ever a point, as a child or a teen actor where you just like really wanted to take a break? That's interesting question, you know. No, I think I found a at a young enough aged um my passion. I know that sounds so cliche, but I wanted it so bad badly, and I don't think I ever got too much too soon. In fact, you know, talking to you guys and remembering this time in my life, I think I felt in the early years like I wasn't getting enough, Like even when we did Pepper Dennis, you know, like writer, I literally I was playing Rebecca's makeup artist and my job was to like tell some jokes, but I literally was powdering her nose. And they gave me like a little they gave me a little storyline towards the end of the season. And it wasn't that they didn't want to write for me, But I think I just for some reason, I didn't have to this day. To be honest, I don't think I've had that moment where I was like wow, that was except The Boy Meets the World in my episode where I was like deep, I had like my deep dive into into you know what it means to be an actor. Um, I'm really lucky because I've had a long career and um, I can still have my life and I kind of I'm able to play lots of different characters and dip in and out. But I've been sort of somehow preserved from that burnout, with the exception of when I wasn't When I was about thirty, I got a show that I was one of three called Lipstick Jungle, and everybody, everybody wanted it to be the next Sex in the City. And every time I got in a cab there was my face and on the TV and like that was Robin Show. Yes, Yes, and it was a Canvas Bushnell book. And then um they they picked up onto to an NBC and there was just a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure, and a lot of pressure as a woman, Like all my clothes were coming straight off the runway, and I like, I like to have three course meals and eat. You know, I like food, and I was just so hungry. I was so hungry during the ruggle. And then you know, all the people would see that comes with it, you know, like the um fashion magazines and fashion Week and all that stuff and I and that part for me was a bit like I always imagine what it would be like. But that'll burn you out when you're not just having fifteen sixty NRA days on on a set, you know, top to tail, and then you've got all the other stuff that goes along with it. Um. But for me, like, I'll just take a little rest and then get back out there and do it. I love it that much. You love food? Um, do you know anybody that cooks? I do I know a guy. I'm just curious if you if there's anyone in your life you knew that knew that knew their way around the kitchen. Really, I really am so smart, very very smart woman. Dear listener, Lindsay, if you don't know, is married to Curtis Stone. And you guys have how many children do you have? You boys? Aleven One was like a little Larry David. He just like says anything and has like weird you know, like quirks and stuff. He's hilarious and the other one's like a little rock star. They're they're adorable. It's really fun. It's so fun, and you encourage do shows together. Right, we just started. You know, like it used to be back in the day that if you were serious actor, you would never do anything, you know, like remotely reality or anything like that, because it would be a signal that you were giving up. But these days it doesn't seem to be the case. You like hanging out with him, and in our life we do a lot of entertaining and food and travel, so we kept getting offers to do stuff, and finally I was like, let's just do it because we like spending time together anyway to do a bit of Um, he does the cooking and I do the you know, design and entertaining stuff and occasionally not burn something like he'll let me make a salad or are you a good cook? Have you learned anything from him? Like have you taken over any part of that? I have? You know, I love I used to love to cook. But he's he's like, it's so funny because one of our first dates, second or third dates, Um, I was going to cook for him. I was so naive, like I didn't know what Michelin Star shot. Like I came over and I decided to make actually by her, I think Alex was at this dinner. Really have to ask her. But um, I made cocoa van and I set this table out in the backyard and it was beautiful. And he shut up a little bit late, and my friend came in and she looked in the pot. She's like, oh my god. And you put little pearl onions in the recipe and I forgot to take the skins off, so it was just like skins were floating. And then so when did you make burgers? Like why did you do pasta? What's the hell? Um it? He ate it. He put it in a roll and he ate it. So he always says that I approached these meals like I wanted to be, you know, some big production and and that could be problematic. So now I just do things really simply, like he had to teach me how to do simple things. Like we had a party once and I was like, can I do anything? And he said, you can make the guacamole, And I stood over the avocados, like I don't know how to open an avocado. I literally and I started to heel it, you know, like it. It's been an education for sure. Well, another one of your very memorable characters was Janet in Beverly Hills nine o two one. Oh. You really got to work with some heart throbs. I did, and you guys, I mean, very lucky career actually, you know, Will Fradel, No, truly, I was too crushy too, even like like when I think back, I was, I think I was more nervous then I was scared about the cry has to be around Will. Then you weren't have to cry in front of millions. I think that's so freaking to me because I felt the same way. But the idea that I would have actually talked to you was that never would have happened. Never would have happened. No, No, of course, Well was stepping into nine o one oh intimidating extremely because I grew up watching it, Like there they were, I think they're they graduated class of ninety three or something and I was I was ninety four. So yeah, I grew up watching it. And that was the first show that was about teenagers and they were all so cool and you know, but by the time I got on the show, they were all like out of college, and it wasn't it wasn't you know, Yeah, why are we still at the peach pin Old? That's why they shifted it into the peach pit after dark? You know. It was like right, um, very yeah. I kind of knew. I kind of knew, but I was on the tail end of the show and I was on the last three seasons. Um. But it was great. That was a long run of me playing one character, and I feel happy to be a part of something sort of iconic, you know, like you guys, you're a part of something the iconic, and that's really it's kind of nice. Thank you? Is there is there a role you really wanted to play that you didn't get a chance to? Um, Like the joke in my family, Like the real heartbreak was I was almost the childlike empress in the Never Ending Story. Oh my god, that's hysterical. Yeah, that is heartbreaking, breaking, heartbreaking. I did audition for Sandra's role in Gray's Anatomy and got there, So I mean that could have been a life changer right there. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, let's not go down this road. I'm like not like really daring story. Never ending story is the pinnacle though, But Lindsay, I feel like there was like there was a there was a string of shows for a while that you were like on all these high prof profile shows that didn't get picked up. It was like either like right before and after Pepper dies, like because you were on Coupling, right that was that was gonna be the biggest show ever because it was like this huge British show. They brought it over, and I remember like every season to be like, oh, Lindsey's gonna be on the next big hit, and then nothing would happen and it would not get picked up. It's just kind of really weird trajectory, you know, Like I I try not to take it too personally because I know I get I get the job. It's just it doesn't, you know, take off for some reason. But I remember that show Coupling, standing and looking at like one of those giant billboards on sunset and it was it was you know, the six cast members, and I was with Chris moynihan and we looked up and we were like, because the log line said the show everybody's talking about, and it hadn't had an air yet were like he was talking about it, we're talking about it, We're happy. Good. Oh man, isn't that a terror? I mean, I I am just imagining the feeling because I've actually never been on a giant billboard anywhere, but I that feeling of being like, I want to temper everyone's expectations, like, hey, everyone, let's calm down before we've even aired an episode, so that some of this hype could feel earned, because that is such a scary feeling when everyone's like, Oh, it's gonna be the greatest thing ever, and you're like, please don't jinx us right, and you know you're a part of something that just is entirely about making money, Like you know, but this is business and very aware of that, which is risky. You know. I wish they would let things breathe and give it a chance. Speaking of pilots that never went I played Chris moynihan in a pilot what so Yeah, I know that sounds weird. So Thief Sutton, who used to write for Cheers, wrote a a pilot called Jack's House, and it's about a guy who wouldn't didn't want to was buying a house so his girlfriend instantly thought that meant they were moving in together and it was based on his friend Chris moynihan. So I was actually playing him in the pilot and his girlfriend in real life who they're still together. Um, Kathleen Rose Perkins was playing my girlfriend. So I was playing him and for some reason he couldn't play the part. He was like, yeah, he might must have been. So I was playing him dating his real life girlfriend in a thing that happened in his life. Yeah, it was. It was so straight. That was my Chris Chris moynahan story. To see that pilot me too. I don't think I've ever seen it either, So that was that was very strange. It's like I played you, I played you in in a show. Well, we talked about it very briefly. But will you tell us a little more about in the spirit with Lindsay and Curtis, Yeah, I will. It's been really fun. Um. We got a call over the summer um in Australia. We were in We spent the summer in Australia because Curtis and his family is all there and they were like we were literally in Tasmania with like we were outnumbered by kangaroos in this field and they were like, you both want to do a holiday show. He's like, do you want to do a holiday show? I was like sure, And then the next thing I know, two months later, we're putting together this this show, which was like fast and furious. We had to figure everything out because we produced it, which was really fun. Um so it's every week we have a different holiday. So we did um Hanaka with Phil Rosenthal, and we did Christmas Eve with Jenna Fisher and we invite fun people to come over and they tell us they're like best holiday memories or what remember and what they did? Recreate it for them in our house. So yeah, it was really fun. We kind of like we decided to skip the holidays this year because we did all of them in one week. Like over it airing on there's so many streamers and so many things, but it's airing on HSN plus um it's not and it's not a we don't sell any products, so I don't know why they have us there. But it's really great because it's you know, it's a fun holiday that sounds awesome, that sounds really like my cup of tea because I very much romanticize the holidays and just want to spend all my downtime talking about what people do for the holidays. What are you doing and how is it going? And what do you eat? I love it. She talks about it a lot. Yeah, she talks about pretty much NonStop. They're really annoyed with me every time we start the podcast, I'm like, what are you guys eating lately? Like to tell me some things that you guys are into eating? How do you do about mode wine? Right? What are you doing for Arbor Day? Like? What's happening? And you guys kept in touch this whole time? Yes? Amazing? How many episodes did you do in total? DFT? Holy? How With that said, there of course have been times where like a year or two will go by and we haven't spoken to each other, and then you know, you're like, hey, what are you up to? But overall, as far as like actually staying in each other's lives, it's been, you know, pretty consistent. Since it has to be. I guess like in some ways that your formative years we're there. In most ways your formative years were there, But also it was just it was such you share a significant um experience that not very many people have, and you shared it. You know, it's pretty incredible. Yeah, it's uh. I'm sure you feel this with other actors that you've known for a long time or other even just people who were child actors. There is a shorthand that so few people have. Um. And also there is a closeness like I've mentioned before that writer and will will be mentioned in my obituary. Like you know, there are very few each other. We will forever, whether we liked each other or not, our names are inextricably linked forever, and thankfully we love each other. So my name will be misspelled in the in the obituary, by the way, you will be Yeah, you will be well exactly did Yeah also killed Phil Friedel from Girls Meet World. Um, so that's that's what we joke about. So we get off on some dark topics dark with you. I'm here for it. Well, lindsay, thank you so much for being here with us today, and we hope the social media hounding was was pleasant for you and not like, oh gosh, please don't make me now, I have to go talk honestly. Honestly, I mean, aside from the fact that I get to hear people say what an incredible actor I was. But aside how lovely it is to hear that, it really was such a turning point for me being on your show, and as it's it's nice like when what you think is happening actually has received the way that you think it's happening. And I remember feeling really proud of telling that story and telling it authentically in a situation where it was really bizarre and hard to do it, like on a half hour sitcom. I remember feeling very, very proud and it was a turning point where I was like, yep, I'm doing this. This is this is for me man. So it's a memory, so thank you for helping me remember it. Like I'm also so excited to now know the story that you walked out of the audition knowing you nailed it, because I mean that really, like that means this that entire experience for you, from the moment you got the audition to the time thirty years later we're still talking about it, it has been that that feeling for you of like, yeah, this is exactly where I'm supposed to be with what I'm supposed to be doing, Like this is my gift. So that's just cool. Yeah, when the right part comes along, right when when all the stars aligned, that's the magic and that's what we wait for. It doesn't happen very often, but no, does happen. Well, thank you for for gracing us with your presence, not only on Boy Meats World but here on Pod Meats World. We're so happy that you joined us. And um we will be sure to check out in the spirit as well on HSN plus and you have an open invitation to come back and join us anytime. It was good to see you. Thank you again for being here. Thanks Lindsay, good to see that was so fun. Again, if if there's ever a Boy Meets World Hall of Fame for you know, guest casts that come on, especially performance would be on that list. Actually, she has to be at or near the top for that performance for the center. That was great, But she's an episode seven the show. It's unbelievable and like I said, I think it it goes a long way to establishing the show's ability to do very sensitive subjects and to approach them seriously and and to you know, yeah, to not make it feel modeling, you know, likes it felt or mawkish like it felt, it felt real, and it's because of her though it also shows how good the casting was, because she any almost any other actor coming into that part would not have done what she did. It was astounding to me. But the bummer is, why couldn't she have come back the next week? Right? Like, why couldn't Why couldn't Eric have had her as a regular girlfriend for exactly four or five episodes? It was, you know, just the side of the times that it was like, Oh, we only have the Asian character for the very special episode, right, and then we're going to give him another girlfriend, the next one another And that's a bummer. Now there's a lot, there's a lot of She was clearly a great actor and went on to have the one of the most successful post boy Meats World careers of anybody. She couldn't even remember that she had done seventy episodes of a soap opera, soap opera for four years. You know who else I would put on that um that list of guest cast. And I've talked to her since, and I'm so angry at myself that I can't remember her name. Danielle. It was the woman who played the single mom at when Corey and Topanga move in together. It was like season seven they move in together, and she's got her own child, and it's she's kind of showing how difficult life can be by herself at the college. I can't remember her name. You are describing a thing, Yes, I don't understand. Remember, remember they have to move once they're at that's where they see the kids. People like. They move into a horrifying hallway right and neighbor. Yes, their neighbor is an actress who came on the show who rushed it, and I can't remember. She went on to have to do some pretty incredible things. I've seen her since. I can't remember her name, which is awful. I mean, guest star Hall of Fame Willie Garson also makes it. Is it Marison Nichols, It is Marison Nichols, It is apps Lea Marisol Nicols. She's gone on to have a phenomenal career. And I remember us literally talking about her as she was on the set with us working like we were watching her run throughs and watching stuff. And I ran into her years later at some event or something, and I remember walking up to her and saying, I don't think we ever told you how amazing we thought you were. Um. She she crushed it. She absolutely crushed it. She was Britany. Do you remember when she came on was a third season. I remember was the beginning of a season season and she came on because she had worked with Michael Jacobs before, so she was like they wrote apart for her as to Panga's quirky friend. And I just remember we were all like, oh, you're the greatest, you are so good. And she had that Jason, she had that Jason Marson thing where she was just a pro and so much better than us. Her mother was incredibly nice. One of my one of my favorite Brittany Murphy stories, just very quickly as I got onto an airplane and we I was flying, I want to say it was some somewhere quick was like Burbank to San Francisco or something like that, and I ended up sitting right acros from Brittany Murphy and nine of us knew we were going to be on the plane, and we write it. Right before we were going to take off. She reached over and she grabbed my hand and she said, I do this every flight, and she held my hand the entire takeoff and it was the cool It was just the nicest thing, and she was the sweetest human being. And yeah, rest in peace, Brittany. The guy from the Scream episode is a journey who gets the pencil in his head. It's yeah, it's Jonathan Jackson. Jonathan Yeah, so what is his name? We've already been through this. I feel like we talked about this on the show. He was great. He was great too. We we we really liked working with him. He was very funny, he clicked right in with us. I put him on that list as well. There are some amazing guests and then unfortunately the thing is we're also missing some people that I'm sure Richard Lee Jackson, that's what Richard Richard Lee Jackson. Yes, we liked him a lot, and he was great and he fit in with us. So there is a bunch of guest casts just so good. But I would put at or near the top of that list. Performance could agree more. Carrie Russell as well. Another one we could add to that list. Carrie Russell. Great. Well, this was really fun. Thank you guys for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. 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