327 | Art of the Session: Reflecting Feelings with Effectiveness and Precision in CCPT
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In this episode of the Art of the Session series, I walk through one of the most important and most underutilized CCPT skills: reflecting feelings. Despite its central role in both the reflective responses and the four pillars of CCPT, reflecting feelings is statistically the least used skill—even among highly trained clinicians. I explore why that might be, and how we can increase our intentional use of this essential tool.
I cover the mechanics of a strong feeling reflection, the emotional vocabulary needed, and how nonverbal congruence—tone of voice and facial expression—can make or break the moment. I also clarify the difference between reflecting feelings and making assumptions based on behavior, and I touch on how to reflect needs, desires, wishes, and intentions when emotion isn't clear. This episode is both a technical breakdown and a heartfelt reminder of the emotional attunement CCPT requires—and why it's worth doing well.
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0 00:00:00,469 --> 00:00:04,309 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks, 1 00:00:04,469 --> 00:00:08,210 your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,550 --> 00:00:08,739 Hi, 3 00:00:08,829 --> 00:00:09,899 I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, 4 00:00:09,909 --> 00:00:10,779 The Kid Counselor. 5 00:00:11,069 --> 00:00:13,109 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 6 00:00:13,109 --> 00:00:15,630 a master class in child-centered play therapy 7 00:00:15,630 --> 00:00:17,940 and practical support and application for your 8 00:00:17,940 --> 00:00:19,620 work with children and their families. 9 00:00:20,229 --> 00:00:21,139 In today's episode, 10 00:00:21,270 --> 00:00:25,790 we are continuing the summer school series Art of the Session. 11 00:00:27,069 --> 00:00:27,840 And 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,110 I have been informed by 13 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:32,680 the curriculum people in my life. 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,389 The people that map out all of my podcasts for me and say, 15 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:37,729 OK, 16 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:39,369 this week you're talking about this. 17 00:00:40,919 --> 00:00:42,669 We are halfway through this series. 18 00:00:42,919 --> 00:00:44,669 So this is actually a very long series, 19 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:46,430 but I'm excited about that. 20 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:48,240 And thank you for the feedback. 21 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,509 I'm glad that you all have been finding this helpful. 22 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:53,180 Art of the Relationship 23 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:54,110 is 24 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,599 something that we should read every single year. 25 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,509 And my hope is that these Art of the Session episodes are something that 26 00:01:01,509 --> 00:01:05,620 we might go back and listen to every single year because this is stuff that 27 00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:07,510 we need refreshers on. 28 00:01:07,589 --> 00:01:11,919 We need to be reminded of the basics and sometimes there's stuff that 29 00:01:12,430 --> 00:01:15,660 we had never connected before or we had never put together. 30 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:16,319 So 31 00:01:16,849 --> 00:01:19,029 excited that you all have been 32 00:01:19,550 --> 00:01:21,529 enjoying this and benefiting from this. 33 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:22,230 All right, 34 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,459 so today 35 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,190 we are moving into reflecting feelings. 36 00:01:26,919 --> 00:01:29,400 We've been covering the three reflective responses, 37 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:32,379 so we've done tracking behavior and reflecting content. 38 00:01:33,220 --> 00:01:35,370 And now we're on to reflecting feelings. 39 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:36,639 Now, 40 00:01:36,739 --> 00:01:40,690 reflecting feelings happens to be the one that does double duty. 41 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:44,319 So we have reflecting feelings in the reflective responses, 42 00:01:44,330 --> 00:01:46,730 and we have reflecting feelings in the pillars. 43 00:01:47,019 --> 00:01:48,830 So this one serves 44 00:01:49,260 --> 00:01:49,930 two purposes, 45 00:01:49,980 --> 00:01:50,650 if you will. 46 00:01:52,099 --> 00:01:53,080 But the 47 00:01:53,269 --> 00:01:55,139 intention behind this 48 00:01:55,790 --> 00:01:56,500 is 49 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:58,260 that the child 50 00:01:58,669 --> 00:01:59,660 has a sense 51 00:01:59,870 --> 00:02:01,750 that we are so in tune. 52 00:02:02,910 --> 00:02:05,779 That we are aware of what their experience is. 53 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:08,600 Because reflecting content 54 00:02:08,850 --> 00:02:09,399 is, 55 00:02:09,610 --> 00:02:11,389 I've heard what you've said to me, 56 00:02:12,050 --> 00:02:13,039 tracking behavior, 57 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:14,759 I've seen what you've done. 58 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,029 Reflecting feeling. 59 00:02:17,979 --> 00:02:20,520 I'm right here with you and I understand 60 00:02:20,770 --> 00:02:21,759 your experience. 61 00:02:23,059 --> 00:02:23,850 So there's 62 00:02:24,139 --> 00:02:24,610 more 63 00:02:24,820 --> 00:02:26,770 depth to reflecting feelings. 64 00:02:26,899 --> 00:02:27,059 Now, 65 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:28,410 interestingly enough, 66 00:02:29,279 --> 00:02:33,929 This is the least used skill among the most highly trained CCPTs. 67 00:02:34,809 --> 00:02:38,149 Reflecting feeling is the least used skill, 68 00:02:38,210 --> 00:02:41,050 no matter what your training is in CCPT. 69 00:02:42,210 --> 00:02:44,070 And that's fascinating to me. 70 00:02:44,210 --> 00:02:45,250 I would argue 71 00:02:45,490 --> 00:02:48,520 it's probably a lack of emotional vocabulary 72 00:02:48,850 --> 00:02:49,350 on. 73 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,320 The part of the clinician. 74 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:55,940 You have to have a pretty robust emotional vocabulary yourself 75 00:02:56,470 --> 00:02:57,960 to be able to 76 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:01,070 reflect feelings in the playroom beyond happy, 77 00:03:01,100 --> 00:03:01,309 sad, 78 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:01,589 mad, 79 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,070 scared. 80 00:03:03,449 --> 00:03:06,270 And when I did my advanced reflecting feelings workshop, 81 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,330 it was really interesting how many people that attended said, 82 00:03:10,559 --> 00:03:14,880 I'm going to start studying emotions more as a result of that. 83 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,110 So that could be the reason. 84 00:03:17,679 --> 00:03:19,070 Maybe there are others as well, 85 00:03:19,559 --> 00:03:21,559 but we know that it's the least used 86 00:03:21,559 --> 00:03:24,710 skill even among the most highly trained clinicians. 87 00:03:25,059 --> 00:03:25,520 So. 88 00:03:26,679 --> 00:03:29,199 When we think about reflecting feelings, 89 00:03:29,559 --> 00:03:32,520 we are going to focus on the child's emotions. 90 00:03:33,889 --> 00:03:34,839 That makes sense. 91 00:03:35,009 --> 00:03:35,839 Even though 92 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:37,199 theoretically, 93 00:03:37,289 --> 00:03:38,960 feelings and emotions are different, 94 00:03:39,089 --> 00:03:41,119 we talked about that in the advanced course too, 95 00:03:41,289 --> 00:03:43,520 but that's way too complicated for this episode. 96 00:03:43,929 --> 00:03:46,160 So we're going to reflect the child's feelings. 97 00:03:47,770 --> 00:03:48,440 Yet, 98 00:03:48,850 --> 00:03:50,410 and not but yet, 99 00:03:50,419 --> 00:03:50,970 and 100 00:03:51,210 --> 00:03:52,399 we are also 101 00:03:52,929 --> 00:03:54,139 going to 102 00:03:54,649 --> 00:03:56,210 reflect desires, 103 00:03:56,570 --> 00:03:57,410 needs, 104 00:03:57,529 --> 00:03:58,199 wishes, 105 00:03:58,449 --> 00:03:59,449 intentions. 106 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,809 That's kind of a subset 107 00:04:02,059 --> 00:04:03,699 of the reflective responses. 108 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:06,380 We reflect emotions, 109 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,250 but there are other things that we can reflect as well, 110 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,600 and it doesn't really fit into another category. 111 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:13,479 It doesn't go into reflecting content, 112 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,270 it doesn't go into tracking behavior. 113 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,470 So 114 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,309 I want to talk about it just because I want you all to be aware, 115 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:21,640 the desires, 116 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:21,959 needs, 117 00:04:22,059 --> 00:04:22,480 wishes, 118 00:04:22,519 --> 00:04:26,000 and intentions of a child are also worth reflecting. 119 00:04:27,709 --> 00:04:29,899 You really wish you could do that. 120 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:32,059 You would love 121 00:04:32,670 --> 00:04:33,500 whatever. 122 00:04:34,109 --> 00:04:34,339 Oh, 123 00:04:34,429 --> 00:04:36,589 you're hoping that that will happen. 124 00:04:37,660 --> 00:04:38,529 There's 125 00:04:39,059 --> 00:04:40,890 reflecting other things as well. 126 00:04:41,299 --> 00:04:44,850 So be aware that that's kind of a related 127 00:04:45,339 --> 00:04:47,570 to the reflecting feelings piece, 128 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:48,380 the desires, 129 00:04:48,459 --> 00:04:48,619 needs, 130 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:49,010 wishes, 131 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:49,820 intentions. 132 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:53,140 But specifically today, 133 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,279 the reflecting of emotions. 134 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,910 It's a very simple formula. 135 00:04:58,980 --> 00:04:59,579 You, 136 00:04:59,940 --> 00:05:00,660 the emotion. 137 00:05:01,299 --> 00:05:02,720 And you either stop there 138 00:05:03,010 --> 00:05:05,089 or you add the qualifier. 139 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,029 So 140 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,230 you're proud. 141 00:05:10,119 --> 00:05:10,790 That is 142 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,790 a sentence. 143 00:05:12,459 --> 00:05:12,929 In, 144 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:14,399 in total in completion. 145 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:17,899 You can also add 146 00:05:18,299 --> 00:05:20,339 the explanation after that. 147 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:21,839 You're proud, 148 00:05:22,089 --> 00:05:23,170 you hit the bull's eye. 149 00:05:25,070 --> 00:05:27,869 But you hit the bull's eye is optional. 150 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:30,510 You're proud will suffice, 151 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,410 and it's up to you based on the circumstance and the moment and the child. 152 00:05:36,549 --> 00:05:38,290 And the emotion probably. 153 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:40,899 Whether or not it makes sense to just leave it 154 00:05:40,899 --> 00:05:44,450 at you in the emotion or add the optional ending. 155 00:05:46,299 --> 00:05:47,839 The reason why 156 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:51,209 we decide which one is more important. 157 00:05:52,309 --> 00:05:53,739 Is because sometimes 158 00:05:53,950 --> 00:05:54,540 it 159 00:05:55,149 --> 00:05:55,660 hits 160 00:05:55,910 --> 00:05:56,420 more 161 00:05:56,589 --> 00:05:57,600 if we just say. 162 00:05:58,429 --> 00:05:59,260 You're mad. 163 00:06:02,269 --> 00:06:06,459 But sometimes a child needs to understand the bigger picture. 164 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:07,100 So 165 00:06:07,390 --> 00:06:08,470 you're mad 166 00:06:08,750 --> 00:06:09,459 that 167 00:06:09,750 --> 00:06:11,720 we only have one minute left. 168 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:13,309 You need to 169 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,390 figure out when to use which one. 170 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:17,309 They're both reflecting feelings 171 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,440 and it's just whether or not we need more than just you and the emotion. 172 00:06:23,540 --> 00:06:23,739 All right, 173 00:06:23,940 --> 00:06:24,630 second thought. 174 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,149 I've talked about this a lot, 175 00:06:27,209 --> 00:06:27,649 but 176 00:06:27,950 --> 00:06:29,000 probably not enough. 177 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,859 And how can you talk about something a lot but still not enough? 178 00:06:32,890 --> 00:06:33,019 We, 179 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:34,880 we need more of this is the point. 180 00:06:35,579 --> 00:06:37,209 Do not fill. 181 00:06:37,940 --> 00:06:39,609 Please do not fill, 182 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:40,829 not for my sake, 183 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:42,640 but for your children's sake, 184 00:06:43,059 --> 00:06:44,369 please do not fill 185 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:47,339 your reflecting of feelings with fluff words. 186 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,929 It's just 187 00:06:50,299 --> 00:06:51,609 you are. 188 00:06:52,769 --> 00:06:53,679 Emotion. 189 00:06:54,010 --> 00:06:54,880 It's not 190 00:06:55,089 --> 00:06:56,079 you look, 191 00:06:56,369 --> 00:06:57,440 you seem, 192 00:06:57,730 --> 00:06:58,649 you feel, 193 00:06:58,890 --> 00:07:00,119 you must be. 194 00:07:00,769 --> 00:07:03,369 We don't need any of those things. 195 00:07:04,489 --> 00:07:05,540 It's just 196 00:07:05,929 --> 00:07:06,640 you're 197 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:07,679 excited. 198 00:07:09,859 --> 00:07:11,910 You must be so excited. 199 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:13,739 You seem so excited. 200 00:07:13,899 --> 00:07:15,700 You look so excited. 201 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,850 It's unnecessary fluff and filler, 202 00:07:20,179 --> 00:07:23,970 and it takes away from the focus of the sentence 203 00:07:24,339 --> 00:07:26,250 which is helping the child 204 00:07:26,619 --> 00:07:28,820 have a word that adults use 205 00:07:29,179 --> 00:07:31,029 to describe what they're feeling. 206 00:07:33,250 --> 00:07:35,420 Alla an emotional vocabulary. 207 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:40,100 You're giving them the word that adults use. 208 00:07:41,230 --> 00:07:45,779 To explain and describe what they're experiencing in that moment 209 00:07:46,130 --> 00:07:49,029 and the more words you fill around that. 210 00:07:49,890 --> 00:07:52,450 The less likely they are to 211 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:56,480 help that build them an emotional IQ and vocabulary. 212 00:07:57,369 --> 00:07:57,880 So 213 00:07:58,049 --> 00:08:01,529 eliminate the fluff words from your reflections. 214 00:08:02,089 --> 00:08:04,690 It's just you are the emotion. 215 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,010 And 216 00:08:08,359 --> 00:08:09,609 here's another caution. 217 00:08:11,609 --> 00:08:13,079 Don't make leaps 218 00:08:13,329 --> 00:08:14,959 based on the child's behavior. 219 00:08:16,709 --> 00:08:17,600 In other words, 220 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:22,720 Just because the child is curled up on mom's lap in the lobby. 221 00:08:23,489 --> 00:08:26,989 And is choosing not to come back to the playroom at that moment. 222 00:08:28,619 --> 00:08:31,730 Unless the child has made it very clear verbally, 223 00:08:31,980 --> 00:08:34,320 or you can clearly 224 00:08:34,659 --> 00:08:36,979 see the emotion nonverbally. 225 00:08:37,989 --> 00:08:40,039 We would not say something like, 226 00:08:40,429 --> 00:08:42,669 you're scared to come back to the playroom. 227 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:46,770 If we don't see fear, 228 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,429 if the child has not communicated that in some way. 229 00:08:51,669 --> 00:08:53,200 We don't want to make that leap. 230 00:08:53,510 --> 00:08:54,419 Likewise, 231 00:08:55,119 --> 00:08:56,020 kid starts 232 00:08:56,309 --> 00:08:59,099 kicking and punching and smacking Bobo. 233 00:09:00,140 --> 00:09:01,309 We don't want to say 234 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,570 you're angry, 235 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,669 you're hitting him as hard as you can. 236 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,849 Is he angry? 237 00:09:08,690 --> 00:09:09,799 If he has 238 00:09:10,130 --> 00:09:11,919 a look on his face of anger. 239 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:13,659 We could 240 00:09:13,989 --> 00:09:14,700 reflect that. 241 00:09:15,489 --> 00:09:20,039 But the behavior itself is not enough to make the leap toward the emotion. 242 00:09:22,419 --> 00:09:23,799 In the lobby scenario, 243 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,599 that might be an opportunity to reflect something else. 244 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:29,739 A desire, 245 00:09:29,750 --> 00:09:31,179 a need or a wish. 246 00:09:33,179 --> 00:09:35,679 In the hitting Bobo scenario 247 00:09:36,169 --> 00:09:38,520 might be appropriate to reflect a desire, 248 00:09:38,650 --> 00:09:39,010 a need, 249 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:39,479 a wish, 250 00:09:39,489 --> 00:09:40,429 or an intention. 251 00:09:42,950 --> 00:09:43,909 And 252 00:09:44,309 --> 00:09:45,460 be mindful. 253 00:09:46,219 --> 00:09:49,080 That just because a behavior is taking place, 254 00:09:49,460 --> 00:09:53,030 it does not necessarily get associated with an emotion. 255 00:09:54,299 --> 00:09:57,239 We have to safeguard against making that jump. 256 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:58,989 Because 257 00:09:59,270 --> 00:10:00,739 often when we do, 258 00:10:01,150 --> 00:10:02,380 kids look at us like, 259 00:10:02,390 --> 00:10:02,830 what? 260 00:10:03,849 --> 00:10:05,150 And you know that 261 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,179 you just 262 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,530 kind of made 263 00:10:08,039 --> 00:10:09,919 a presumption that was not accurate. 264 00:10:10,950 --> 00:10:11,309 And we, 265 00:10:11,349 --> 00:10:12,580 we want to try to avoid that. 266 00:10:14,070 --> 00:10:16,539 Your tone of voice and your facial expression 267 00:10:16,669 --> 00:10:17,460 are huge. 268 00:10:18,179 --> 00:10:19,030 In this skill. 269 00:10:20,809 --> 00:10:22,000 Your tone of voice 270 00:10:22,359 --> 00:10:24,799 should be appropriate for the feeling that you're reflecting. 271 00:10:26,020 --> 00:10:29,289 Your facial expression should be appropriate for the feeling you're reflecting. 272 00:10:30,609 --> 00:10:32,349 And generally speaking, 273 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,780 if it is 274 00:10:34,039 --> 00:10:35,630 a more positive emotion. 275 00:10:36,669 --> 00:10:38,900 Your tone of voice would be higher 276 00:10:39,309 --> 00:10:41,460 and your face would be 277 00:10:41,989 --> 00:10:42,700 positive. 278 00:10:42,830 --> 00:10:43,669 In other words, 279 00:10:43,830 --> 00:10:45,500 with a little bit of a smile 280 00:10:45,950 --> 00:10:46,469 with 281 00:10:47,549 --> 00:10:49,809 A sort of happy look on your face. 282 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,090 Like you don't need to, 283 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:51,460 you know, 284 00:10:51,539 --> 00:10:52,929 be smiling ear to ear, 285 00:10:53,219 --> 00:10:54,830 but it should look like 286 00:10:55,059 --> 00:10:58,609 you are sharing in the positive emotion with the child, 287 00:10:58,859 --> 00:11:00,450 with a higher tone of voice. 288 00:11:01,059 --> 00:11:02,380 With a negative emotion. 289 00:11:03,429 --> 00:11:05,539 You're going to have a lower tone of voice, 290 00:11:05,909 --> 00:11:08,219 and your face is going to be either 291 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:10,059 flat and neutral, 292 00:11:10,789 --> 00:11:11,500 or 293 00:11:12,229 --> 00:11:15,820 a small degree of whatever the child is experiencing. 294 00:11:16,070 --> 00:11:17,679 So if the child feels defeated, 295 00:11:17,789 --> 00:11:18,619 for example, 296 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,320 We could have a look of 297 00:11:21,450 --> 00:11:23,739 defeat on our face to a lesser degree. 298 00:11:23,890 --> 00:11:26,919 If the child is angry or frustrated, 299 00:11:27,250 --> 00:11:32,090 we could have a frustrated or angry look on our face to a lesser degree. 300 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,039 Be a thermostat, 301 00:11:34,049 --> 00:11:34,880 not a thermometer. 302 00:11:34,989 --> 00:11:35,320 Remember, 303 00:11:35,599 --> 00:11:36,469 rule of thumb. 304 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:39,510 So we're going to make sure 305 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,710 that we're not 306 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,950 to the level that the child is. 307 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:46,989 But it is still congruent with the child's experience. 308 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:50,309 What you absolutely do not want to have happen 309 00:11:50,599 --> 00:11:52,869 is you're reflecting a negative emotion 310 00:11:53,359 --> 00:11:54,479 and you sound. 311 00:11:55,599 --> 00:11:56,219 Pleasant 312 00:11:57,299 --> 00:11:59,679 Or you're reflecting a positive emotion 313 00:11:59,909 --> 00:12:01,340 and you sound indifferent. 314 00:12:02,359 --> 00:12:04,150 So let me demonstrate what that would look like. 315 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,010 If we, 316 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:06,200 one of us were to say. 317 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,239 You're really angry about that. 318 00:12:13,299 --> 00:12:13,950 That 319 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:15,900 makes someone more angry. 320 00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:19,030 It feels so disingenuous. 321 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,789 It feels so incongruent. 322 00:12:21,729 --> 00:12:23,190 Or likewise. 323 00:12:24,429 --> 00:12:25,750 Child is 324 00:12:26,070 --> 00:12:26,659 really. 325 00:12:27,739 --> 00:12:28,849 Gleeful 326 00:12:29,419 --> 00:12:32,570 and jumping around and all over the place happy 327 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:33,460 and we say. 328 00:12:34,690 --> 00:12:35,750 You're pleased 329 00:12:38,140 --> 00:12:39,659 It just doesn't fit. 330 00:12:40,539 --> 00:12:43,690 So we have to make sure that our nonverbals 331 00:12:43,979 --> 00:12:45,609 are really involved 332 00:12:45,859 --> 00:12:47,979 in this process of reflecting feelings 333 00:12:48,539 --> 00:12:49,369 because 334 00:12:49,739 --> 00:12:50,599 in general 335 00:12:50,909 --> 00:12:53,729 nonverbal communication is far more 336 00:12:54,219 --> 00:12:56,179 impactful than verbal communication anyway. 337 00:12:56,260 --> 00:12:59,409 I think 90% of what's communicated is nonverbal, 338 00:13:00,059 --> 00:13:02,770 so that is important just in the grand scheme of things, 339 00:13:02,859 --> 00:13:05,299 but specifically for children and the emotional 340 00:13:05,299 --> 00:13:08,140 vocabulary build and the emotional IQ build. 341 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,869 This is all part of the process for them. 342 00:13:11,929 --> 00:13:14,119 So we are intentional about those things. 343 00:13:14,820 --> 00:13:15,179 All right, 344 00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:15,890 so 345 00:13:16,619 --> 00:13:19,539 we've now finished the reflective responses segment. 346 00:13:19,580 --> 00:13:21,969 We are going to move into the pillars next. 347 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:26,809 And my hope is that as we're going through this, 348 00:13:27,289 --> 00:13:28,640 you are realizing 349 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:30,640 there's a very small 350 00:13:30,969 --> 00:13:31,929 short list 351 00:13:32,250 --> 00:13:33,969 of things that we do in the playroom. 352 00:13:34,909 --> 00:13:36,929 And it makes it feel more manageable 353 00:13:37,219 --> 00:13:37,840 and 354 00:13:38,099 --> 00:13:40,679 something that we can absolutely be adherent 355 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:41,890 because 356 00:13:42,179 --> 00:13:42,979 there's only 357 00:13:43,380 --> 00:13:46,419 so many things that we're going to say and do in the play sessions. 358 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:48,960 So as we walk through this, 359 00:13:49,450 --> 00:13:49,609 I, 360 00:13:49,729 --> 00:13:52,119 I believe that you all will feel more confident, 361 00:13:52,250 --> 00:13:53,299 which is my hope. 362 00:13:54,119 --> 00:13:54,250 All right, 363 00:13:54,369 --> 00:13:55,320 so really quickly, 364 00:13:55,929 --> 00:13:58,049 if you all are interested in the Six-Figure 365 00:13:58,049 --> 00:14:00,359 coaching program that begins on August 28th, 366 00:14:00,729 --> 00:14:03,960 so many of you have scheduled discovery calls with me 367 00:14:04,650 --> 00:14:05,159 that 368 00:14:05,450 --> 00:14:09,719 I may end up being either on a waitlist or having a second group. 369 00:14:09,929 --> 00:14:10,440 So 370 00:14:10,729 --> 00:14:11,599 y'all are 371 00:14:12,010 --> 00:14:13,159 really interested in, 372 00:14:13,169 --> 00:14:14,489 in these coaching programs, 373 00:14:14,570 --> 00:14:15,690 which I'm really excited about. 374 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,059 So we do have a couple of weeks left. 375 00:14:18,179 --> 00:14:19,119 If you are interested, 376 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:19,840 please sign up. 377 00:14:19,940 --> 00:14:20,359 Like I said, 378 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:21,799 I may end up having to wait, 379 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,229 I may end up starting a second group. 380 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,530 I'm not sure what that looks like. 381 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,469 Just wanted to let you know that August 28th, 382 00:14:27,599 --> 00:14:30,789 we will be starting a new group Thursdays at 5 Eastern. 383 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,510 So 384 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,440 go to playtherapynow.com if you want to schedule that. 385 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:35,559 Also, 386 00:14:36,630 --> 00:14:39,190 I have been thinking a lot about. 387 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,880 My schedule lately, 388 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,669 if you will. 389 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,349 I've had so many of you say, 390 00:14:44,359 --> 00:14:45,090 when do you sleep? 391 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:45,830 When do you eat? 392 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,010 How do you function? 393 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,479 How do you have so much energy, 394 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:50,590 you are so busy blah blah blah. 395 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:53,429 I get that almost every time I talk to somebody. 396 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:55,229 And 397 00:14:55,409 --> 00:14:58,090 I just want to say a few things about that, 398 00:14:58,409 --> 00:14:59,520 not to reassure you, 399 00:14:59,530 --> 00:15:01,780 just to communicate something that I think you know, 400 00:15:01,890 --> 00:15:02,799 you all need to hear. 401 00:15:04,330 --> 00:15:05,659 I am really busy. 402 00:15:05,869 --> 00:15:07,429 I do have a lot going on. 403 00:15:07,630 --> 00:15:07,900 I, 404 00:15:08,020 --> 00:15:10,659 I always say I have a lot of balls in the air that I'm juggling, 405 00:15:11,229 --> 00:15:12,979 but I want you all to know 406 00:15:13,349 --> 00:15:15,739 I am so deeply fulfilled 407 00:15:15,989 --> 00:15:17,900 with every single thing that I do. 408 00:15:18,109 --> 00:15:19,880 And when you love what you do, 409 00:15:20,190 --> 00:15:22,940 it's not draining and it's not exhausting, 410 00:15:23,099 --> 00:15:25,869 and it doesn't feel like work and it's not a burden. 411 00:15:26,539 --> 00:15:28,159 And I don't feel that way. 412 00:15:28,409 --> 00:15:30,700 I love every bit 413 00:15:30,929 --> 00:15:32,020 of what I do 414 00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:34,000 for CCPT 415 00:15:34,409 --> 00:15:34,950 and 416 00:15:35,409 --> 00:15:36,489 everything that I'm doing it, 417 00:15:36,609 --> 00:15:38,340 it's fulfilling to me. 418 00:15:38,650 --> 00:15:39,119 So 419 00:15:39,409 --> 00:15:43,090 thank you for giving me opportunities to do the things that I love. 420 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:44,809 Thank you for listening to the podcast. 421 00:15:44,890 --> 00:15:45,969 Thank you for coaching with me. 422 00:15:46,090 --> 00:15:47,619 Thank you for joining the Collective. 423 00:15:47,890 --> 00:15:49,960 Thank you for your emails and your messages. 424 00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:51,200 Thank you for 425 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:52,280 giving me 426 00:15:52,609 --> 00:15:55,440 the opportunity to do the things that I absolutely love. 427 00:15:55,809 --> 00:15:57,429 And I do sleep well, 428 00:15:57,479 --> 00:15:58,200 I do sleep. 429 00:15:58,359 --> 00:15:59,549 That that's the common question, 430 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,229 do you sleep? 431 00:16:00,359 --> 00:16:00,679 I do. 432 00:16:00,719 --> 00:16:01,559 I'm a good sleeper. 433 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,309 I promise you. 434 00:16:02,359 --> 00:16:03,799 I get more than 8 hours every night. 435 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:07,010 But thank you for 436 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:13,770 caring about CCPT in such a way that it allows me to pour into CCPT the way that I do. 437 00:16:14,299 --> 00:16:15,169 I love 438 00:16:15,340 --> 00:16:17,780 every single component of my schedule 439 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:19,010 and I love you all. 440 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:19,619 So 441 00:16:19,940 --> 00:16:20,780 I wanted to let you know, 442 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:23,820 just in case you were losing sleep over me not sleeping. 443 00:16:24,549 --> 00:16:24,570 All right, 444 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:26,419 we'll talk soon. 445 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:26,900 Love you all. 446 00:16:27,099 --> 00:16:27,460 Bye. 447 00:16:28,539 --> 00:16:31,299 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. 448 00:16:31,460 --> 00:16:32,349 Brenna Hicks. 449 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:34,570 For more episodes and resources, 450 00:16:34,659 --> 00:16:39,400 please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.