The Top 59 (!) Position Battles of NFL Training Camp

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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are officially reporting for training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am back state side.

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Speaker 1: In my garage four now and training camp is beginning this week. I am joined today by my friend Nick Shook, and we are going to fire through a lot, a lot of news over the weekend as some teams are reporting, some players are signing. We are going to go through the best position battles of the twenty twenty five training camp. I have fifty nine written down. We will see if we can get to all fifty nine in this show. But I thought that we have to start this show. The first word for training camp should go to the man who is coaching the team who started training camp, the Santa Clausa Football Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling oh so excited?

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Speaker 4: It's a homecoming. You know, I mean all the best words in the English language. I mean, I associate to the first day of football. You know, it's being reborn in football, It's the start of the year. It's the someone think it's January first, you know, those are espoused to Catholicism Christianity would think it's the birth of christ Us. In football, it's the first day of training camp. Homecoming.

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Speaker 1: So I love Jim Harbaugh like no one else is saying. If you espouse to Christianity, it is like the birth of Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm feeling, SHOOKI. We finally have some football to talk about. Looking forward to doing it with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, birth of football.

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Speaker 5: I just think about the Wilson Football Factory and all the footballs that they produced every year, you know, the birth of the Duke. It's a new era upon us. Another season is here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we will be hitting your feed every Sunday evening actually during training camp, me and Shook recapping all the news from around the league that's happened over the weekend, get you caught up, and then once the preseason starts, it's all those takeaways on the preseason game. So that's part of our schedule moving forward. But now NFL Daily is back to being daily. We'll have a show for you every day this week. Looking forward to it. Let's get to the news. I could start in a million places here, but just kind of playing catchup, Shook. I thought it was interesting that von Miller is back in the NFL. He got a six point one million dollar base to sign with the Washington Commanders, and it makes me kind of wonder, like, what are these Washington Commanders, Because one hand, they have Jayden Daniels. On the other hand, they were one of the oldest teams in the league and they needed help at the edge rush position.

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Speaker 2: You think von Miller can help him out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they lost Dante Faller in free agency, was one of the most economical pickups last year. They needed to probably throw another body in there, so they give von Miller an affordable deal. He's back in the NFL. But you're right, I think about Bobby Wagner being back there. I think about the trader Marshawn Latimore. Like, they have a ton of veterans, so it doesn't surprise me at all. But it is an interesting dichotomy of this relatively young offense and this veteran defense. Dan Quinn and just collecting guys he knows he can count on, right.

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Speaker 2: And von Miller. Last year he was a situational pass rusher for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: They cut him. The PFF numbers said he got a lot of pressure. I think on tape he just didn't seem that impactful to me. And then you look at their edge position. It's Dorin's Armstrong, who was pretty solid for them last year, and then it's Von Miller, Cleland Ferrell, Dietrich wise In, Jacob Martin. I mean, those are those are some guys who have been around and they've seen some things. It's not a young, dynamic group, and I thought it was interesting they did not report any guaranteed money with this deal, at least that I've seen so far, So I'd be very interested to see that. It's my guess that Von Miller has to actually make this team, that there's at least a chance that he shows up and doesn't look right, and they at least wanted to have that in their back pocket and potentially cut him if he doesn't look good, but they're obviously hoping he looks good. Six point one million dollars is not a ton of money, at least in current NFL terms compared to the top of the market like TJ Watt. So since we last taped the show, I was in Tokyo. I'm now back that jet lag is still hitting like a truck this morning, Shook. It's two in the morning right now in Tokyo. It's tomorrow. And after we take that show.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt signed a contract that was fascinating to me. He gets one hundred and eight million dollars guaranteed in the first three years of a four year deal.

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this was the contract that I thought, Look, they need to get this done because it makes all the sense in the world for t J. Watt to be as Cam Hayward called him, a one helmet guy and finished his career with the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: And yet with the age.

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Speaker 5: And the market exploding this offseason, there were some barriers to get this done.

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Speaker 3: Not at all surprised that it's one million more per.

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Speaker 5: Year than what Miles Garrett got, because that's how the market works, and especially in a rivalry between two AFC North teams, So.

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Speaker 3: That makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 5: It also makes all the sense in the world for him to stay with the Steelers, as you know, one of the most impactful defensive players of this era and of many eras. But yet and the three years points to the reality of it, which is we also know he's not exactly a spring chicken anymore. And it also points to the fact that they are still all in on this year with Aaron Rodgers and all the veterans they've collected on that team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are spending money. The three years actually was a lot. It was a better deal than Garrett's ultimately because he got that third year guaranteed. I think for people that are interested in the contract manutia of it all, most players, unless they're really young, do not get that third year guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt will make one hundred and eight million dollars. That's the most ever for a non quarterback. It's actually in terms of fully guaranteed money. It shook more than Brock Purdy got, who's a quarterback, and more than Miles Garrett got, like into that third year where it's fully guaranteed. He's going to be thirty three that year. I thought TJ. Watt had his worst season last year. In the second half of the season, he looked a little worn down. To me, this is a highly risky deal. I would hate to doubt TJ. Watt, but the fact that he's going to be making thirty six to forty, you know, million dollars in his age thirty three season is a big time risk.

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Speaker 2: But the Steelers stepped up.

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Speaker 1: They are very deep at the edge rush position and t J.

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Speaker 2: Watt Stain, which is good.

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Speaker 1: You want you want the great players to stay as long as possible. Will levis not a great player for the Titans last year. We're taping on Monday. This morning, he randomly was announced that he's out for the season. Anything stand out to you there.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, it's it's unfortunate because he's had such a tumultuous time in Nashville with this team and as they've gone through so much transition, and he has been known to, you know, cause a lot of self afflicted errors and mistakes for that team. I mean, there's the whole shot of Brian Callahan, what are you doing on the sideline last year? Like that is basically that typifies his entire time in Tennessee. It's a bummer though, because you knew they were moving on to camp Ward, but you always had Will back there is just in case and you never know. It could be a trade chip, you never know, And now all that's out the window because he can't participate at all this year, which is a bummer for him, and we'll set him down this path where maybe hands up with another team as a backup.

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Speaker 3: But that's essentially his fate is sealed. That's that's his future.

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Speaker 1: So I should have given credit to our guy the Insider Game. It's back on Ian Rappaport broke this exclusively, so good job by Ian, and I thought the wording was very interesting and it said after consulting with his doctors and his representatives, and that was from I believe the team, you know, Levis decided to do this, and just makes you wonder he had this injury last year. He supposedly was having good training him. I'm sure it was bothering him, of course, but if he was the starter, would he be having this surgery. It almost sounded like the team was caught unawares. And there was a funny tweet out there which I wish I could credit it was it was a Titans you know content creator who said, oh, will Levis like waiting and waiting and waiting till the last decision and then you know, making a choice that the Titans organization didn't like.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't seem unlike him at all.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, like I said, self inflicted airs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have Brandon Allen is their next quarterback up and they might be looking for more depth there, because that's not great. You would like some more depth behind the rookie. All right, just flying through some of the veteran news. Then we have some off field news, and again we're getting to fifty nine position battles today. Mike Williams retired at the beginning of Chargers training camp. They drafted Trey Harris Shook in the second round, and this I didn't think this wide receiver group looked better enough, at least not in terms of the upgrades.

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Speaker 2: I was expecting this.

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Speaker 1: Offseason before Mike Williams retired, and now he retires.

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Speaker 2: He's thirty.

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Speaker 1: He had recurring injuries and just didn't feel good coming off of this latest injury that they said he'd be ready for training camp. I think they surprised him by retiring. And what do you think about, like what's around her right now? Yeah, I didn't feel great about it last year. You know, obviously he wasn't there. He was with the Jets to start the year before he ended up back there, but it just didn't feel good.

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Speaker 5: It was Lad McConkey and trying to run Josh Palmer deep, which did not work for them. And I don't feel much better about where they stand right now. I mean, you have McConkey and Trey Harris, so I guess that's a little bit better. But at the same time, it's just a lot of it's a big question mark. This is not there, you know, for having a quarterback as good as Justin Herbert. That is not their identity. We know where they've invested, and it's been in the running back room, in the offensive line. They want to be a tough, throwback, physical team. That's the Harball identity. It just doesn't make me feel good about this group. But also it gave me like a reason to dive into Mike Williams' career picture for a second. Okay, and for as much as we you know, valued him as a receiver who came out of Clemson, who was a big time player and everything else, he only had two thousand yard receiving seasons in his career. And I know he dealt with a lot of injuries over the course of his career, which is always the big knock on him. And he had one where he flirted whether he finished with eight ninety five. Another one was seven fifty six and fifteen games. Kind of surprising for me. I think that we held him in higher esteem than his stats maybe suggested he should have been. But hey, nonetheless, a career I guess well played and ends where it started.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel for him. He struggled with the injuries with the Jets last year. You're right, I think it was because he stepped up, and Herbert talked about this a lot in big moments. He definitely timed his best season well with that seventy six yard season where he had nine touchdowns in over eleven hundred yards and got the contract after that, and he tended to make the biggest plays when it mattered. He made very highly difficult plays. But yeah, kind of a bee, I would say, in terms of a guy that got taken seventh overall. But you feel for him, I think you could sound you could hear Herbert was a little heartbroken because Mike Williams was hoping to have kind of a renaissance here and he was just frustrated with another injury. And yeah, the Chargers, they're out there not too far away from me.

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Speaker 2: Right now.

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Speaker 1: It's like rainy and kind of cold on the West side Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: That I was told by Tony Tony Tony that it never rains in southern California.

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Speaker 1: It's rainy and it's like sixty five degrees or whatever. And they're down there in El Segundo and it's Monday. As I mentioned, they're already on day five of their training camp. They are in pads on Monday. So the first team to get in pads. They showed up three days before the Lions, who are also in that Hall of Fame game. So those are the first two teams to get going. The rest of the league will show up the rest of this week. Speaking of the Lions, got some injury knees levi on woz Rique will miss the entire season. He was a free agent this year and they brought him back. He's had ups and downs in his career because of injuries, and he has a tourney cl I guess that happened in the offseason, so that it's just like starting out a little bit how last season ended, which is a bummer. I saw Josh Pascal, who's there another edge rusher on Wozouriquez more of an inside guy, is out until at least September. And then they also revealed that Taylor Decker, they're starting left tackle, is coming off of a knee surgery that we didn't know anything about in his started training camp is delayed, although they think he is gonna be fine. So just like it's one of those things you want to be able to turn the page. I feel like though this happened to the Ravens for a few years in a row, they'd be the most injured team in the league, and then the next training camp they'd show up and they'd be the most injured team in trade. And it's just like a bummer of a way to start out, to lose a guy that you really were counting on and that you re signed in the off season before before training camp even starts.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I believe Alee McNeil is also coming back from injury too. Yeah, So like the on paper depth that you thought you might have had by bringing him back suddenly is not there. And this is an injury that surprised them. They didn't know this until after free agency that he was dealing with this, and then it just became clear that he needed an address.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I remember talking about this signing on the show and we thought, well, that's a pretty low cost.

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Speaker 3: I think it was three and a half million for a year.

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Speaker 5: And it was like, well, why wouldn't you get more because nobody was really interested because of his own injury history. He had the back issues before and now this. So it's a bummer. You hate to see guys careers get interrupted by injury, but I guess it's not entirely surprising. It does make me a little bit worried about the Lions, just like you said, because that was always the Ravens big hang up. Like they had good teams, it's just it was usually their secondary was always banged up, incredibly banged up. They throw everything at the wall to try to get super deep at the position and still run into injury issues. I hope the same fate isn't ahead for the Lions this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole idea, But behind this Lion season is sure that maybe the offense doesn't come out firing as much with the changes in their offensive line and there's a new offensive coordinator, and like, maybe they're not the top of the top right off the bat, but the improvement from the defense is gonna make up for it. And this is obviously a disappointing start, and I'm gonna keep an eye on that. Taylor Decker injury too, but no one panic. We've got about six weeks till week one, so we've got a lot of time we'll be having much of I mean six weeks. It's okay, you're not getting onn to Zorique back. But I'm saying, like Taylor Decker, and you know, sometimes I found that I've panicked over like late July injuries, and sometimes they're they're fined by like mid to late August, and that's.

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Speaker 2: All that really matters.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a lot of contracts over the next couple weeks of good young players getting paid. One of them was George carloftis the chiefs edge rusher who is part of that great draft class they had what now four years ago with Trent McDuffie as well. He gets thirty two million dollars guaranteed, not a ton sixty one million dollars guaranteed for injury on a four year, eighty eight million dollar extension.

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Speaker 2: But if you include the two years he.

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Speaker 1: Still had left on his deal, it's six for one oh five, so a very rare that's under twenty million a year, like middle class contract where he gets a ton of security and they got a good player, a plus starter long term.

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Speaker 2: That's good for him.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that the Patriots did not put Stefan Diggs on the pup list to start camp, So he's coming off a torn acl but he is literally ahead of schedule. And we'll talk about the Patriots wide receivers a little later in the position battles.

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Speaker 2: But that's good news for him.

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Speaker 1: And then I noticed his brother, we're combining the Digs here, was docked five hundred thousand dollars by the Cowboys for not working out with the team enough. He had a bonus in his contract where he had to like be rehabbing or being with the team at the facility enough, and he wasn't there. And there's been a whole story of how he wasn't at the team facility enough to rehab and they're not going to pay him five hundred thousand dollars. That's their choice, like they have the right to do that, but they could have also just ignored it. It speaks a little to a larger issue maybe between Digs and the Cowboys right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, an interesting one.

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Speaker 5: It's also an interesting one because when you look at contracts and you break them down, you just assume that the workout bonus, which is usually like five hundred grand, is going to just pay through because.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're Lamar Jackson. He didn't take it again this year. By the way, it shows how rich he is that he's just like, nah, I don't need that half a million dollars.

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Speaker 5: I'm fine with that. Yeah, that's totally fine. But yeah, I think it's definitely worth keeping an eye on, especially because the Cowboys again being the team that struggles with contract situations and roster management. Just when you compare it against conventional wisdom, and it always, you know, raises an eyebrow.

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Speaker 3: What do things really go? You know, what do they like in that building with some of these key players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wonder when is he going to be ready to play again? Is it going to be in the twenty five season? Is he going to play again? They're a team that has a lot of question marks in that secondary. Just a couple other little news items, Seahawks released Noah Fan who is scheduled to make seven million dollars and I thought was going to be their starter. So that's a sign of you know, confidence, I guess in their two guys who are left over. Who is it Elijah Royo and aj Barner, so they'll get some extra run. The Bengals brought back Desmond Ridder, the former Cincinnati Bear Cat. I know the Westling Brothers are going to be fired up. He's now with the Bengals. And I mentioned the Chargers and Trey Harris, who they haven't been using to replace Mike Williams. And that's one of the reasons I was frustrated about, you know, and just disappointed with that retirement, was Quinton Johnson is now back in that expot, which it just doesn't seem like he's made for. They're using Trey Harris kind of as you said at the Josh Palmer spot, moving him around. He was among a flurry of second round signings. I was never really worried about this standoff where the entire league of second rounders were not signing, but they have all almost signed. Now there are only four second rounders left a lot of them got fully guaranteed deals, including Tyler Schuck, the Saints quarterback Luther Birding as deep as like the thirty ninth forty pick, and everyone else has basically signed your guy. Quinchin Junkins is one of the players who didn't sign. He is facing a different situation. I guess let's put pivot now to the off the field stuff and we'll hit these quick. But just a number of off the field news. Quinchin Junkins is not showing up to training camp. I think the team basically told him to stay away until he handles his off the field issues. We mentioned on the show last week that he was arrested on a charge of misdemeanor domestic violence, So you know something that the Browns in the league are going to take seriously. It might be a while before we see him in uniform.

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Speaker 2: Shook.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree, and the proper way of going about these things. But everything gets stored out on that end, and whether he ends up playing football for them or not remains to be seen. But there's no reason to keep him around. And really, I think from a team standpoint too, you don't need guys, you know, being asked questions about him either while he's there, So it's the right way to go about it as they handle this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, he he's unsigned. I mentioned there were three other second rounders unsigned. I expect they'll be signed before the Veterans report on Tuesday. And then there is that one first rounder that's unsigned Samar Stewart with the Bengals, who's part of our one of those position battles. So the very last other first rounder today, Baron did sign before Bronco's camp started. Another item to update you on is the NFLPA chief Lloyd Howell resigning over the weekend. I believe it was on Friday or Thursday night, and this was according to the Associated Press, that he resigned as executive director of the NFLPA, citing distractions that his leadership caused in recent weeks. And then that was followed up on Sunday by the NFLPA Chief Strategy Officer, J. C. Trettter, he used to be the head of the players, resigning from his position and withdrawing himself from consideration for the NFL's PA's interim executive position. Howell came under scrutiny since ESPN reported he maintained a part time consulting job with the Carlisle Group, a private equity firm that holds legal approval to seek minority ownership in NFL franchises. And man, this all comes on the heels. It is so complicated, but it all comes on the heels of Pablo Tory and my old boss Mike Floria helping him out by Pablo Torri unearthing this document that the NFLPA in the league had a confidentiality agreement to keep quiet over an arbitrator's ruling about possible collusion over quarterback salaries. And then there were a number of other investigations and revelations about Howell.

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Speaker 4: And the.

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Speaker 1: Really logline of this all is that, look, time flies, We're already halfway through this collective bargaining agreement. They're gonna be able to redo the TV deals in a few years. It's a new CBA in another five years, and so the NFLPA is looking for an executive director and just a lot of upheaval within their organization. Man, this section is my least favorite section of the show. We got Trump talking about the Washington Commanders possibly changing their name back Shook to their old name, and I was like, is this worth even mentioning on the show. It's just, you know, a social media post, but there is some actual football relevance here because there's a threat the the federal government is helping to potentially fund a new stadium and part of what Trump put in the social media post was that could potentially be contingent on them changing the name back. The mayor was asked about it on Monday morning, So I don't think there's much to say here, Shook, But it's just a story that maybe going away. I just say, bring the Washington football team name back that everyone could agree with.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fine.

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Speaker 5: I just think that it may be a product of boredom and being online too much, because how does it matter. I understand how it matters because they're trying to build a stadium and for the first time in seemingly forever, this franchise has a ton of positive momentum, so of course something.

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Speaker 3: Like this has to get in the way.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, hopefully this all just blows over in a week from now, it's not a topic anymore.

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Speaker 1: We'll see like they are wearing some of the old throwback uniforms you've seen in social them, kind of embracing their history as you would expect. It's a proud franchise. But I thought we were done talking about the name of the team. I thought Commanders was actually going.

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Speaker 3: To be fine.

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Speaker 5: It's totally fine, and the uniforms are fine, everything's fine. Let's just move on.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying it tongue in cheek. I think people would be all for Washington football team. I liked it.

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Speaker 1: Rashi Rice and this ends are off the field part of the show. Finally received his punishment for the arrest he had last offseason. He will be sentenced to thirty days in jail and five years of probation after authorities said he and another speeding driver caused a chain reaction crash that left multiple people injured on the Dallas Highway last year.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's like a down note to go into news. And by the way, he's going to show up to training camp and the Chiefs are just going to wait to see how long he's suspended, assuming he is suspended, but we haven't heard anything from the league yet. So for now, Rashi Rice is just showing up and we'll be practicing at training camp unless the league comes to a very quick decision. Is such a sour note there to end the news on that. I think we got to circle back to these Chargers who are giving us a lot of news. It's always an advantage you show up for that first week, you just dominate the news.

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Speaker 2: Cycle for a week.

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Speaker 1: Herbo Shook showed up with those contacts, like the UV rate contacts where you kind of look like. One of the reporters there said he looked like the Sith Lord. I'm not as familiar with the Star Wars, but I kind of know what he's getting at. He looks a little freaky in the huddle. Do you think that means we get a better justin Herbert, Well.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you one thing.

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Speaker 5: Back in the day, I think it was Brian Roberts of the Orioles used to wear these contacts.

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Speaker 3: They were made by Nike at the time. I got a pair.

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Speaker 5: You could get a trial pair in your prescription because I'm blind as a bat without contacts, and I wore them playing high school baseball. It is incredible how vivid the colors are and how it really helps it separates you can see the ball. I could totally understand why he do that. There doesn't mean he's gonna score more touchdowns. They do play in a stadium with a translucent roof, so I don't really But.

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Speaker 2: It's not like is your vision better? Is your vision?

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Speaker 3: It's like wearing contacts, but the colors are changed.

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Speaker 5: It's like putting sunglasses on your eyes, Like if you wear the top tier sunglasses, that just make things green is more green, and.

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Speaker 3: Things like that. The football pops that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna score more points, but it's kind of fun to watch, and it's cool to look at when you look at the pictures of him up close, because he looks crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that there's multiple things that play here. For me personally, I'm colorblind, so green isn't always exactly green, or it kind of blends in a little bit with brown and gray and purple. A lot of confusion, a lot of making fun of me by my kids. I in Tokyo got some prescription sunglasses, and this is making me think of that. The thing is popping more than ever, and I'm like, it doesn't really make any sense because I wear sunglasses over my just normal contacts and shouldn't not be the same. But you just explain something to me.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought maybe the prescription in these are too strong, cause it's like, I'm I feel like I'm in a VR headset when I'm wearing these descriptions. It's the first I ever got.

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Speaker 5: And it opens your world up like it's just and when you take them out or you take those sunglasses off, you're like, got it. I think I want to put these back on. Maybe it's not ultra realistic because they're tinted, but it's amazing to experience.

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Speaker 1: We've spent way too long on this, but shout out to Japan, who is coming up with a way to give me high quality and attractive products for like a fraction of the price that you would get here.

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Speaker 2: So let's like, let's step up.

00:25:36
Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing things like buying sneakers and prescription sunglasses there.

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Speaker 2: Everything is is way cheaper there. Shout out to uh, shout out to Japan. Let's let's step it up America. And with that, let's take a little break back on NFL daily.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in slightly rainy southern California and my backyard is a little.

00:26:13
Speaker 2: Bit of a pond right now. And it's not because the rain shook.

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Speaker 1: It's because there's a broken water pipe deep within my ground, which is a major problem. And I've got someone digging the entire yard up in.

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Speaker 3: My oh French drain.

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Speaker 1: Like my water bill is gonna be like thousands of dollars because it was leaking the entire time I was gone, and then I came back to a lake in the backyard, So that that's fun. Position battles. I wrote down fifty nine. I just thought it'd be a good exercise for me personally to just go through them all and like have an idea of what we're dealing with, and write them down as I went, and we'd talk about the top shelf ones. And then I thought, why not take this as a challenge, Shook, do you think we can get fifty nine position.

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Speaker 2: Battles in without this show being like insane? Lee Long?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna have to really be economical with my words. But really everybody should take away is that if they ever't need an example of how Greg Rosenthal is a football sicko, it's the fifty nine position battles that we're gonna.

00:27:13
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, though, I'm gonna rank them in order of how much I actually want to talk about them, so we can talk pretty quickly about the top ten, the top twenty, and then we'll really fly through the rest. Just just pick out some highlights and some quick thoughts. But we don't need to go too crazy. So I think the position battle I want to talk about the most is maybe this is obvious because it's not all quarterbacks at the top, but Jamis and Russ and Jackson. Dar is to me the perfect kind of dumb, chaotic summer fair that I like, you know what I mean. It's like a much better version of the Browns Quarterback Battle, which just seems like kind of depressing to me. Like this all just seems so funny imagining those three guys in the room. They all have extremely chaotic playing styles. None of them really seem like they fit with Brian Dable to me exactly, maybe Winston. I don't even know it's in New York. There's gonna be a good quote like everything about it. I'm actually in on it. I'd like it even more if I felt like it was truly an open battle. But I guess it's Russ's job to lose.

00:28:23
Speaker 2: What do you think?

00:28:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the perfect quarterback training camp battle, Soux Flea, Like, we just get the primary ingredients, we get the accoutrement, we get the aromatics that make everything better, Like you got your base is Russell Wilson, and then Jameis Winston's like, dude, the interesting spicy thing that we threw on, and then Jackson darts the unknown that ends up bringing out the whole dish. It's it's Russ's job. This sound's gonna go. Russ is gonna win the job because it's gonna be his job. Jameis is gonna be your backup, veteran backup, and Dart's gonna be the ooh.

00:28:52
Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know anything about him.

00:28:55
Speaker 5: Let's see if we can get him all the If things go really poorly, don't be surprised if Jackson darts on the field. But I think for now that's the way it lines up.

00:29:02
Speaker 2: See, I don't know. Like Russell Wilson was with Sean Payton, Sean Payton couldn't wait to get rid of him.

00:29:08
Speaker 1: He didn't fit. He was with Arthur Smith and the Steelers. Ultimately, in terms of the contract offers, they chose Justin Fields as a guy they would rather have long term over Russell Wilson.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: They did not want to keep Russell Wilson. He's not getting paid like that much. Mounch. I guess he's probably gonna be the starter. I'd feel better.

00:29:25
Speaker 1: I think Jamis would be the most interesting and maybe give them the best chance to win. But I look at them all and just think of the ups and the downs Jamis has had since he was a number one overall pick, like one of the characters Russell Wilson, like one of the defining figures of his generation, like so up and down, such a high ceiling in theory but not anymore, and a really low floor. And that's how I think of Jackson Dart too, who as a prospect to me was completely boom or buss, had so much to learn. I think he is playing to potentially win the week one job, and if he plays well enough, he's gonna get at that job in like week three or week four at the latest. So we will see. But I'm just ready for anything there. Number two on my list is the Bucks wide receivers. So we got Amika Agbuka, We've got Jalen McMillan, who we haven't talked about much on the show, and then we've got Chris Godwin, who's not going to be ready for the start of training camp, so he's there with his health. Obviously it's his job when he gets there. But I just didn't want to sleep on McMillan because man, he ended sees the last season really strong, and they've got some other guys there, Trey Palmer and then my guy Sterling Shepherd actually ended the season as like a nice role player, So I just thought that was an interesting mix. Everyone all automatically assumes the first round pick Agbuka comes in there and has a great role. But this is where training camp can can help you learn some things like will he hit the ground running and it doesn't always happen and you can pick this up with training camp reports and kind of how the preseason is going.

00:30:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I love this group on paper, Like, I know what we worried about Gobhin not coming back healthy, you know immediately, but this is like the top six. I'm good with this, like Evans, Gobin, Abuka, McMillan, Shepherd, even Trey Palmer, Like I like all these guys. They also drafted Ted Johnson who's very thin and slight for forgot about that the NFL, but had a nice career at Oregon. Like, I love this group, and I also love the way that McMillan ended his season like he in the back half basically from what is it week twelve on he was pretty solid, like he okay, two for twenty five in one game, but then you get five for seventy five, five for seventy four in a touchdown, four for fifty nine and two touchdowns. How much of that is due to Baker Mayfield and Liam Cohen and then offense and the fact that he's playing with Godwin and Evans or at that point it was just Evans and whoever else to get throw out there, including Shepard. That remains me seen, but I think his upside is very high. And adding Abuk into that group, I think it's one of the stronger receiving cores in the NFL. So I'm super excited, and frankly, I don't really necessarily worry about how it's going to shake out.

00:31:47
Speaker 2: I just think they have a lot of options. I agree McMillan, I think don't sleep on it. I was a little like Bucky Irving, like he really picked up his play late in the season and made some difficult catches down the field, Like he is the speeds to.

00:32:00
Speaker 1: Of that group. And I just love that team. I love that that group. The next couple are the Cowboys. I don't want to go two long. We might be doing a little Cowboys on Tuesday show with Colleen Wolf. But man, when I was going through it, I realized their edge position is awesome. Like, you have the best player in the league, potentially, Micah Parsons. That's who I would take, even over your guy Miles Garrett. I could just kick someone. I would take the Parsons. And then on the other side you have a battle of Sam Williams, who tours ACL in what early twenty twenty four but looked really good in twenty twenty three as like a young rising edge rusher. You have a first round pick I liked a lot in Donovan Ezerako. You have Dante Fowler, who you just mentioned had a nice season for Washington last year. And then you have Marshawn Nelan who's coming off of an injury as well, but is expected, I think to be ready for the start of the season. He had a meniscus here, and I was thinking, like, is this the bet just best edge group in the league.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: The Cowboys are a little frisky.

00:32:58
Speaker 1: That's a good group if everything worked out well and those four are really fighting for snaps. Not everyone can play, because you know Parsons is playing every snap.

00:33:05
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna stay fresh, and you're gonna stay fresh opposite Michael Parsons. But I think it's really an example of you buying into and believing in the potential of what all these guys could be collectively.

00:33:15
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's July. I'm on board with that.

00:33:18
Speaker 2: Only like two need to hit.

00:33:19
Speaker 1: And that's where the Cowboys running back situation doesn't make much sense to me.

00:33:22
Speaker 2: They're next on my list.

00:33:24
Speaker 1: Their running back battle is Javonte Williams, who just did not look good you know, most of the last couple of years. Miles Sanders, who's sort of a journeyman at this point, hasn't you know, really done And Jaden Blew, a fifth round pick, who were already hearing whispers and not positive ones about like how how he looked in the off season. Just why, like why why it shouldn't be this hard to find a running back, Shook.

00:33:52
Speaker 5: This is also a team that let Tony Pollard walk and they let Rico Dawbell walk, and this is how they responded.

00:33:57
Speaker 3: I think we've talked about this before. I hate this room.

00:34:00
Speaker 5: I think it's it's one of the lowest ceiling rooms in the NFL, especially when you're putting that next to Dak Prescott. You finally get another receiver next to Cede Lamb, and then you have this to show for running back.

00:34:09
Speaker 3: I don't like it at all.

00:34:10
Speaker 5: I think about Jaden and Blue as the guy who ran the wheel rout against Ohio State and the Cotton Bowl for a touchdown like it's it's basically that's what I see out of him and the rest of the group. Miles Sanders has operated an anonymity in Carolina and like you said about Javonte Williams, after being an exciting guy out of North Carolina, has never really put it together in the last couple of years.

00:34:27
Speaker 3: So low ceiling.

00:34:28
Speaker 5: Not excited about this group at all, and I think it could hold them back pretty significantly.

00:34:31
Speaker 1: That it is a position, though you can find guys from other teams. So could they be a Travis etn team at the end of training camp, some sort of veteran that you could, you know, send a sixth round pick, you know, swap it the Cowboys love to do.

00:34:46
Speaker 2: That wouldn't surprise me. But just why number five.

00:34:49
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the quarterbacks, Tyler Shuck and Spencer Rattler. Again, what I like in the summer is like it's like popcorn movies. I like, I want it to be just sort of dumb. This is what August is about. Like, Spencer Rattler was all over the place last year, but he's got a new head coach and Kellen Moore, who I think will be a lot more organized, and he's got that year of experience. In the offseason, supposedly he looked better than Shuck, And yet we know Shuck, who signed a fully guaranteed contract and is in camp on time, is the heavy, heavy favorite. If it's anywhere close to a tie, they'll give it to Shuck.

00:35:28
Speaker 3: I would assume Shuck. Yeah, investments in him. Yeah.

00:35:31
Speaker 5: Well I was kind of blew my mind when I've heard some people pronouncing his name is Shuk even though it spelled differently. Riddled me that, But yeah, it's it's a little expectation team, and I think it starts at quarterback because this is the guy that is the favorite.

00:35:44
Speaker 3: But the agenda still exists.

00:35:46
Speaker 5: The agenda continues to push Spencer Ratler into our consciousness, and I like, you would totally sign up for chaos that leads to Spencer Ratler being out there and putting on a bit of a show with Kellen Moore.

00:35:57
Speaker 3: That would be fun.

00:35:58
Speaker 1: They they start the season with three NFC West teams, which is not easy. Is there a chance that they put Rattler out there at the beginning with some tough games before the schedule opens up, just to just to give him a chance, because you don't want to be like flip flopping.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: Maybe the rest of our listeners, Art is interested in that, but.

00:36:17
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's what August is all about, like finding a Week one starter.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: It's these two weird guys.

00:36:22
Speaker 1: You know, Shuck is significantly older than Rattler, but to me had you know, very high ceiling tape in college and yet couldn't handle pressure. It's just a lot going on. I think it's fun. The Giant's Edge Battle was next on my list because to me, it's just juicy that you have the number two pick of the draft, Abdul Carter, who just you just assume is gonna start. But you have a guy in Keevon Thibodeaux who was a top what's five pick and top seven pick, a hugely talented hasn't really paid off that talent, but maybe he's got a fire lit under him, he's got some experience, Like, I'm not just assuming that Carter ends up ahead of him. So to me, this is it's kind of fascinating. You don't normally have two really high draft picks like that going after each other at the same position.

00:37:11
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:37:11
Speaker 5: I mean, if you look at this group as a whole, I mean, Brian Burns opposite them, like they're gonna be good either way.

00:37:18
Speaker 1: It's just the Chauncey Golston too, who's like a good he's a good fourth defensive end who they signed to some money, who played for the Cowboys too.

00:37:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you want to talk about edge groups. I mean I kind of like this group more than the last group we talked about. It's just a matter of his When they drafted Carter, it was a no brainer because a lot of people thought he was the best player in the draft, so it made sense. But on a roster construction from that standpoint, not so much. But then again, is it because Kevon Thibodau is not the guy they thought they were getting.

00:37:44
Speaker 3: That's the question.

00:37:45
Speaker 5: I think Carter wins this job, and I think it applies pressure to Thibodeau, who I mean, he had his own endorsement deals a year ago. Now he's looking at potentially having to split snaps or start behind a rookie in Abdul Carter, which makes it very interesting, especially in a market like New York.

00:37:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, I remember Cavon, you know on Draft front, come in, we've made friend, We've made friends with him on around the NFL, and I would say, yeah, the Carter pick is not only was he the best pick, And to me, they had two options, him or Travis Hunter. I think they made the wrong choice personally, but I think it had to be one of those two, and uh, you had to take them for the talent. But part of it is absolutely that that Thibodeau hasn't lived up to his building. He's been like a good player, but not a great player. And it's not like a quarterback battle. They're both gonna play. It's just who's gonna be first in line, who's gonna get more snaps? And if Carter is playing a lot over Thibodeaux and Golston kind of sneaks in there, and then it does. Does Thibodeau, you know, honk a little bit. We'll see The next one is a similar type of battle. I mentioned Shamar Stewart who's holding out in Cincinnati. We presume the camp hasn't actually started yet, but they were talking on Monday, just hopeful that that he'll show up. And Trey Hendrickson also they're not totally sure about, but I think he might show up and hold in that. The edge battle opposite Hendrickson, and if Hendrickson's not there is is pretty grim. It's a former first round pick, Miles Murphy who hasn't done anything in his first two years. It's Stuart who was like the biggest workout wonder of the the league. And it's another guy, Joseph Assai who they brought back, who they've always had high hopes for. I remember him in that in that Super Bowl making a couple of plays against the Rams, But otherwise it has been mostly quiet and man, that's it's kind of a thin group there, shook, especially if Hendrickson's not there. But even if Hendrickson's there, that's that's an interesting group with some first round picks after him.

00:39:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that in such a what I think it's going to be a pivotal season for the Bengals that they've done themselves a massive disservice by letting this Hendricksson thing last as long as it has, understandably because money is involved. But the rest of the group, I mean, yeah, yeah, you have to replace a guy or retired and suddenly you can't figure out who's gonna be there, and so you go with Osai. You hope you take trades guys in Stuart and Murphy. Lack of production coming out of college, especially Stuart, and you can't even get Stewart in the building. Do you want to talk about grim? I would be very worried if I was a Bengals fan about this, especially if they can't figure it out with Hendrickson. And this is a defense that was so bad lou An Rubaul lost his job. This is gonna be an important part of your team if you're gonna get back to the playoffs and going into camp like this every year there's something with them in camp.

00:40:27
Speaker 2: But this is not encouraging, right, just because I want to, you know, combine them.

00:40:31
Speaker 1: At number twenty one on my list is the guard situation with the Bengals too. It's just a really good team to have some really big holes when you look at their roster their cornerback position too. They have to shake out but edge and then their guards, where really both spots are up for grabs, and they're hoping some of their draft picks pan out, and everyone just assumes the draft picks are going to pan out. And then you just look at Miles Murphy a year ago at this time, he's the ad dresser.

00:40:58
Speaker 2: There are all these articles.

00:41:00
Speaker 1: Okay, after a quiet first year, first round pick, Miles Murphy is ready to go and he's gonna be a big contributor for the Bengals. And then we got nothing from him basically for the second straight year, and so they got to show that they can develop these guys. So it's a really good team in theory because it's got really great strengths, but man, they have some big holes at edge and at guard. We got to mention the Colts quarterback situation. Anthony Richardson sounds like he's gonna be ready for training camp, so that's good. It'll at least give him in theory. Even footing with Daniel Jones, who do you think wins that battle?

00:41:36
Speaker 2: Shook?

00:41:38
Speaker 5: I mean, the messaging with Richardson was weird when it was revealed that he was gonna be participating in mini camp. It's encouraging that he's gonna be ready, or at least we think he's gonna be ready.

00:41:49
Speaker 3: It sounds like he will be.

00:41:51
Speaker 5: I mean, this is an absolutely pivotal crossroads year for him. He's got to come through this year, and losing your job to Daniel Jones would be embarrassing for him, but also embarrassing for the Colts for spending the fourth overall pick on him.

00:42:05
Speaker 2: And yet they seem like they want to do it. They can't do, you know, because thirteen million dollars.

00:42:09
Speaker 5: Just yes, because I think Shane Steichen is tired of it. He needs somebody he can rely on. I don't know if he can rely on Daniel Jones unless he just needed a change of scenery, so Eileen Richardson because of the investment in him, But I also don't think that they are completely committed to him in that they would overlook him being you know, outworked or outperformed by Daniel Jones in this camp. So I think it's gonna be one of the more fascinating ones outside of you know, what we talked about in New York and what we might talk about in Cleveland. Just because it's going to matter so much for the entire state of this franchise.

00:42:39
Speaker 1: Right in post knee surgery, Daniel jos was not the same as priest knee surgery. I know he was never a Pro Bowl player, but he was worse last year than he's ever looked and so maybe a year, you know, healthier, he'll be better. But to me, Richardson should win this bat out. They just be so much more interesting. There's something weird going on there. I think they feel like tough love is maybe like motivating Anthony Richardson, and so that's why they've been so aggressive. We'll see the Jags running backs that mentioned Travis Etn. Now I'm confusing the Trevor and the Travis of the the Etn brothers who are now in the NFL. You have the original one is in Jacksonville and he's facing off against Tank Bigsby and Bashall Tutan And I know who's a fourth round pick this year. I know fantasy guys base everything off last year, but sometimes sometimes guys show up different than they were the year before, and who knows, maybe Etn shows up this year and he looks better than Bigsby and takes it back. It's an interesting group and if Etn isn't the winner here and they like Tuton, then maybe he's a trade chip at the end.

00:43:44
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, you know, that's been the rumor so much that Liam Cohen had to come out and talk about it months ago about how much they love him. And he shows up, he's consistent and everything else, which is kind of like the ownership vote of confidence right before a coach gets fired, where it's like it's that last little nudge that.

00:43:59
Speaker 3: We really like this guy, but we're also dangling him there.

00:44:02
Speaker 5: Bigsby out performed him last year and it was not a good offense, so you know, take that with a grain of salt. Tuton's the guy who's very fast, who didn't produce like the most positive marks coming out of you know, the spring activities. So it's gonna be an interesting dynamic there with those three. But I think by the end of camp, if Etn doesn't show that he's on track for a bounce back year, he's in trade talks and we're talking about a big sbeed Tuoton backfield in Jacksonville.

00:44:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tutin was the guy who blew up the combine with that four two or whatever, just just a big boy running extremely fast. Finally our top ten. To wrap up the top ten, we got forty nine more. After that, we're going to fire through. It's the it's the Chiefs tackle situation. So they're starting camp with Juwan Taylor. It's been their right tackle on the pup list. I found that really interesting because Josh Simmons, who fell in the draft all the way to the Chiefs, very talented tackle because he's coming off of a major neat construction, is not on the pup list. So they have Simmons the first round pick. They have Jalen Moore, who they gave fifteen million dollars a year or two, who is the backup to Trent Simmons over in San Francisco. And I find this one really interesting because it's the Chiefs that could impact the Super Bowl. But also like if Juan Taylor takes a while to come back, like could both of those guys start, Could Simmons be on one side and on the right side maybe and Moore's on the left side. In the end, you're kicking last year's second round pick. Kingsley's wu a mattea inside to left tackle maybe Jalen Moore, I mean to left guard rather actually could move inside to left guard. There's been some talk too if if they like Simmons at left tackle and they pay them that way. So it's just a puzzle that the Chiefs are trying to figure out. But Josh Simmons, to me, is like a really big part of how good this team could be this year.

00:45:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we also can't forget Mike Calando's role in this too, because this is the assembly of a put this offensive line. We saw how important it was to find some sort of stability there, which they didn't. They had to kick out Joe Tunia left tackle last year. So they're just throwing a lot of options out there and hoping that they find a starting five. And I think that this could take on a number of different appearances in terms of where a guy is playing or who's playing you know what position by week, who's starting who's not, which is not super encouraging for a team that's been to the Super Bowl.

00:46:23
Speaker 1: But they're talented, Like there's a lot of investment that least suck. It's like it's a first round pick who a lot of people thought was the most talented tackle in.

00:46:31
Speaker 3: The draft, it's not without effort.

00:46:33
Speaker 1: It's Jalen Moore, who they're paying fifteen million dollars a year, who's interesting. And Juwan Taylor, who's been overpaid the last few years, and if he makes the team this year, and I assume he will, I would guess this is his last year with the Chiefs. So it's just it's interesting. They they are making sure that Patrick Mahomes is protected, or at least making sure they're doing everything possible, spending a lot of most so supposedly they wanted Ronnie Stanley and the Ravens stepped up and kept him. All Right, we're gonna start going a little faster here, we're outside the top ten. Our next three. We've got the Dolphins cornerback situation. It's just wide open. Like the top candidates to be their cornerbacks are Storm Duck, Cam Smith, Ethan Bonner. Those are outside, so I think they're going to add someone at some point. We have Cater Kohu, but he's more of an inside nickel guy. So that's just like a little worrisome. If you're a Dolphins fan, I'm gonna be watching that. You got the Bill's second cornerback. They drafted a first round pick in Maxwell Harrison, but Tredevius White is back there. Dan Jackson is back on the team, so I'll be interested to see if Harriston really steps up as like a young draft pick they want him to start.

00:47:43
Speaker 2: And then we got your Browns quarterbacks.

00:47:44
Speaker 1: I couldn't put them any higher than this on the list just because it's just a little bit of like it's it's gonna be interesting to watch, but.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: For who for what you know?

00:47:55
Speaker 3: Ses to what end? Is just two things, two things here.

00:47:59
Speaker 5: The Dolphins defense as a whole is concerning to me, especially in a big year for them, And look no further than quarterback, as you mentioned, but the Browns quarterback situation comes down to a simple sentence. I tweeted, like a week ago, well, we posted a picture maybe it was two weeks ago of the four quarterbacks for the AFC North Browns training camp preview, and I just said, I'm sorry, but how do you not laugh at this picture? Because I mean, these are your options, Like, you got four of them. None of them are probably good enough to start for most teams, but they got to figure out and find one. So it's intriguing because if you like chaos and you know, like you said, popcorn movies, that sort of thing, you're gonna get that in Cleveland.

00:48:36
Speaker 3: But it's not super encouraging.

00:48:37
Speaker 1: I mean, let's go through them. How many of them would be backups on most teams. Flacco probably would be a backup on more than half the teams in the league. He's I think, a good backup. But he was freely available for not much money and no one wanted him, so that, for the most part, like that says something. I don't think Kenny Pickett would be a backup on most teams necessarily the Eagles dumped him, and then yet you have Dylan Gabriel and Shader Sanders, who are a third and a fifth round draft pick wouldn't normally be counted on to be a backup. So yeah, I just want to kind of catch everyone up if you haven't been listening to NFL daily and you're like plugging back in at the start of training camp, just kind of where everything is. And so we're going over all these position battles. But man, I grouped a lot of these wide receivers together. So I'm just gonna mention a bunch of the teams, and the difference at wide receiver is like it's kind of figuring out what the order is going to be. But for the most part, a lot of these guys are making the team. But all right, let's go through the Jets wide receivers. After Garrett Wilson, it's wide open. It's like Josh Reynolds, Malachi Corley, Tyler Johnson.

00:49:46
Speaker 2: It's not a bunch of good names.

00:49:47
Speaker 1: The Panthers wide receivers in general, you figure Adam Thielen has a role, shook, Xavier Laguette probably has a role. Teed McMillan was there, you know, top ten pick, you have Jalen Coker, Hunter, renfro that could go anywhere like one to five. I'm not sure what the order is going to be. The Patriots wide receivers. I already mentioned Stefan Diggs, He's obviously going to play if he's healthy. To Mario Douglas, I think is going to have a role for them if he's healthy. And then you have like Mac Collins. You have my guy, the third round pick, Kyle Williams. You have Jalen Polk, who was a high second round pick a year ago, was a disaster, but you can't totally give up on him. Supposedly he's looked good when he actually practiced. It was the games that you threw him up. You have Kendrick Bourne, who was always like You have this guy Efton Chisholm Shook, who supposedly is like the next Standium Mondola has been lighting up practice. You have Keisha on Booty, like what is going on? Like, it's just these teams where you can just shake it all up and try to figure out, like what stands.

00:50:48
Speaker 2: Out to you out of those three.

00:50:49
Speaker 5: It's a snow globe, and it's not because they play in New England. It's an actual snow globe. You just shake it up and figure out where it lands. I actually like Carolina's top three if if yeah, Feeland can be the guy that he was last year. He was a pretty big part of that offense, and I like I so like we get ted McMillan. We'll see, like it was very mixed results on you know, depending on who you talk to for his evaluation. But he's you know, a bigger target, so that's good for them. But the Patriots, Yeah, it's just complete battle Royale, like just drop them in and figure out who wins these jobs. And frankly, for a team that was terrible last year, I like that idea. I like that approach, Like is Kai Shan Boody gonna beat out Jalen Polk? Who knows is.

00:51:25
Speaker 2: To make the team? I just listed like nine names, like yeah, and I didn't even there were there are a couple more.

00:51:30
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's essentially and I considered Digs more of like a two slash three at this stage of his career. It's more like they have eight, you know, guys who could be two. Would you rather though? Would you rather have their group or the Jets group who has Garrett Wilson, But then after that it's Josh Reynolds, Tyler Johnson, Malachi Coraley. And in theory you're thinking, okay, well they'll use two tight end sets and they'll have you know, you'll use their end. But their tight ends aren't really good receivers either, Like man, it falls off a club. Would you rather have the Patriots wide receivers or the Jets?

00:52:06
Speaker 3: Can I pick the Panthers out of both of those groups?

00:52:10
Speaker 1: The correct answer, by the way, is the Jets because they have Garrett Wilson. You have one great young receiver that's still worth more, I think than all the Patriots combined. But either way it's not great all right, More wide receivers Titans, Steelers, and Broncos. So the receivers for the Titans after Calvin Ridley, it gets really thin in theory. Tyler Lockett is their number two, but man like Van Jefferson is there. They drafted a couple guys a human Ore and Chameri DK are two mid round draft picks, like who steps up. Trail On Burks is still on this roster but always hurt. Xavier Rostrepo is like a well known undrafted guy. But that's wide open really after Calvin Ridley, similar to the Steelers, rather after DK Metcalf you have Calvin Austin, you have Roman Wilson, you have Ben Scronick, you have Robert Woods, you have Scotty Miller, and then the Broncos. I think this is a better group. But after Courtland Sutton it is pretty open. And it's Marvin Mims Vley who did pretty well for them as a rookie last year, Pat Bryant, who they drafted earlier than expected, and Troy Franklin. So like, out of those three groups, anything just stand out to you as the most interesting of those groups. But another group where two through five is kind of open tape dogs, the draft knicks.

00:53:34
Speaker 5: The college guys really like jimiy DK's tape, so keep an eye on him.

00:53:38
Speaker 2: Fourth round pick. They need someone to step up, don't they.

00:53:41
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they do.

00:53:42
Speaker 2: But Alvin Ridley as you're like locked in number one, and Brooks has been his way out. Like Burks, he hasn't done anything. He never justified that take. He's on his way out. So I don't really like the rest of that group at all.

00:53:52
Speaker 5: The Steelers, I thought Roman Wilson was going to be a pretty important playmaker for them, and then he had an ankle injury and never got going last year, so keep an eye on him.

00:54:00
Speaker 3: I still like him as well.

00:54:02
Speaker 5: And the Broncos I think probably the best of the three, just because I at least saw some production from that group last year.

00:54:08
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I had.

00:54:10
Speaker 5: To take, I mean, the Steelers have DK Metcalf now, but DK Metcalf became just a go merchant in his last year and a half in Seattle. So God, none of these are really great I don't think they're.

00:54:21
Speaker 1: Terrible, but it's more like getting our listeners ready for like a watch list. This is your watch list for August that I think is going to be interesting. The big advantage the Broncos have is they have Sean Payton and he makes wide receivers look better. And they have a solid young quarterback in bon Nicks. Whereas the Steelers we'll see, we'll see what Aaron Rodgers brings to the table. Wrapping up the top twenty, here shook is the Broncos running back situation, and it's JK.

00:54:47
Speaker 2: Dobbins, RJ. Harvey and Odrich Estimate.

00:54:50
Speaker 1: I gave a little bump on this list to like teams that are good because to me, this battle actually is going to impact a team that has a real chance to make the playoffs.

00:54:58
Speaker 2: Again.

00:54:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the fact that they committed to Estimate, who's like an old school power back and they used him in short yarded situations last year.

00:55:06
Speaker 3: Dobbins always comes with the question mark.

00:55:08
Speaker 5: Of health, just because he's struggled with injuries so many times over the last few years. R J. Harvey is unless you watch the uc at football, you might not know who he is. But he's the most intriguing of the group. But I like this committee approach with a blend of different styles that I think will balance well with how they like to run their offense, which of course is getting nicked out on the perimeter. I think they'll have some opportunities to find some runn lanes.

00:55:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great candidate to have, like great fantasy value compared to where he's going to get drafted. We will do some fantasy in the coming weeks as we get ready for the season. That's the top twenty so and I already mentioned the Bengals guards, so technically that's twenty one. I think that's a good spot. We're going to take a quick break and then we are getting through the fifty nine.

00:55:50
Speaker 2: It's two days. It's happening, Chuck.

00:55:52
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in conditioning right now.

00:56:10
Speaker 1: My goal, Shook is not only to entertain a little bit, but also informed. And I want our NFL Daily listeners to be the most informed.

00:56:23
Speaker 2: Of all their friend groups, of their entire town.

00:56:27
Speaker 1: You know, of anyone they know, and so that's why they need to know the top fifty nine position battles.

00:56:32
Speaker 2: I'm a sicko and.

00:56:33
Speaker 1: It's why we're gonna hit the news every day throughout training camp and keep you up to date. It's one of the times of the year. I love the daily format because there's just these little things that if you're a sicko, like you have to be to be an hour into the position battles, then you want to know all the information. So let's keep it going. We did twenty one position battles so far. Our next group, the Eagles in the secondary, their safeties pretty wide open. They have a rookie Andrew mccouba. They have Sidney Brown. It's more interesting to me because it's also like where does Cooper dejing go. You assume he's staying at nickel, but if the safety doesn't go well, like could they be rotatium. They also have their other cornerback spot open. It's probably Keey Ringo, but they have a Dori Jackson there. So just their secondary. Because they're such a good team, to me, they get a little higher on the list. Just keep an eye on that. The Cardinals edge group I thought was interesting because they're potentially really good players. But boom or Bus bj Ojalari was a really promising rookie two years ago before he tore his ACL last year. Baron Browning came there in a trade and then re sign on a pretty nice free agent contract. And then Zavin Collins, who's kind of found a home as an edge rusher, was a first round pick.

00:57:43
Speaker 2: Some interesting names.

00:57:43
Speaker 1: They're battling for their second spot opposite Josh Sweat. The Jaguars cornerbacks are interesting just because Travis Hunter is part of it. So how much is Davis hunder actually going to play at cornerback? We know he's playing at wide receiver, Jerry and Jones, Buster Brown is there, you assume Hunter is going to be on the outside. Just everything Travis Hunter is fascinating to me. We mentioned the Chargers receivers before, but you know, I'm assuming Quentin Johnston is kind of locked in there at the ex So then you have Trey Harris the rookie, You have KeAndre Lambert Smith, you have Darius Davis. They're all battling for snaps. And then let's finish this little pack at number twenty six. The running back position of the Patriots for Andre Stevenson, your guy Trevion Henderson from Ohio State, and Antonio Gibson's still there. They're all gonna play, but it's kind of figuring out which snaps like out of that group, what stands out to you.

00:58:33
Speaker 5: I mean, I love that the running back room in New England. Yeah, I know that you gave money to Remandre and you kind of need him to produce, but I love the depth there, and again a difference in styles a little bit too. I thought Gibson's time in Washington was cut too short, is premature, and I'm glad that he's got a home there, even if he's gonna be fighting for snaps. Yeah, as much time as we spend on the receivers and how it's a battle Royale, I think this is a very solid top three at that position.

00:58:56
Speaker 3: So I very much love that.

00:58:58
Speaker 5: The Eagles secondary is an interesting examination of what happens in you draft well and you're so deep that some of the guys that you would expect to make plays earlier for other teams just don't see the field very much. And then you get like three years down the line, you're like, oh God, now we need those guys to play, and we still don't know if they're any good or not. Sidney Brown is.

00:59:14
Speaker 3: One of those guys, so I'm excited to see how that kind of shakes out.

00:59:18
Speaker 1: And kie Ringo too, not that you would have expected him. He's a talented cornerback who is I think a fourth round pick maybe third but guy from Georgia that now it's their development. But man, is that a young secondary when you think about it, because you had the two rookies last year getting the Rookies of the Year vote in quinnyon Mitchell and Cooper dejen who to me, Dejeene's already among the best at his position, in Mitchell might not be that far behind.

00:59:43
Speaker 2: Like what a young, exciting group.

00:59:45
Speaker 1: But I like the Eagles kind of combination of change because they do have some change on the defense, but also continuity, especially on the offensive side. All Right, our next group, I had to throw a kicker battle in Justin Tucker has been suspended by the league. We didn't mention that on the show. That happened during our break, but we already knew that he was cut. And so when you're replacing possibly the greatest kicker of all time, I would say he is Justin Tucker. Vinitari obviously hit more big kicks, but if Tucker was in the position to do that I think he would have as well. When you're replacing him and you're on a team that could make the Super Bowl. Tyler Loop, their draft pick will be the heavy favorite over John Hoylan.

01:00:26
Speaker 2: But you never know. It's a rookie. What if he just thinks Tyler Loop.

01:00:29
Speaker 1: You have the Chiefs running back Isaiah Pacheco getting some pop cream. Hunt is still there. Elijah Mitchell is on this team from the forty nine ers. Brashard Smith is a late round pick. I mean, Pacheco is a late round pick. So I'm not going to rule anything out. That's interesting to me because it is the Chiefs and it's wide open. You have the Raiders wide receivers after Jacoby Myers, you got Trey Tucker, you got Jack Besh the second round pick. You have another rookie, Dante Thornton. Like this is a team that kind of screams to sign a veteran. I mean, I don't know what Keenan Allen's going to bring at this point, but there is a Tom Telesco connection there.

01:01:05
Speaker 2: Maybe he ends up there.

01:01:06
Speaker 1: The Falcons edge spot to me was interesting, shook because they have two young draft picks that they took. You know very high and James Pearce and Jalen Walker who are battling for a time, but also some veterans Leonard Floyd who's been around forever and Arnold Ebacehetty. So how much time will the rookies get that and get there? And then similar type of vibe in Washington at cornerback, Trey Amos is competing to start there, but you have Jonathan Jones, the former Patriots cornerback.

01:01:34
Speaker 2: A veteran.

01:01:35
Speaker 1: You have Noah Igbinoghany, is there, Ken Marshawn Lattimore ever stay healthy? You know, I assume he's starting, but it's he ever on the field. So that that's one of the kind of like up in the air spots for Washington.

01:01:47
Speaker 2: What stands out to you from that big pack?

01:01:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, can he play well when he takes the field on like the postseason last year? Yes, I gotta go to two places here and one of the Raiders receivers, because you are among them who love the Raiders just be Geno's there and they feel like they're headed in the right direction with Pete Carroll. But this is the position group that worries me the most. I know they've made additions there, But it's one that I'm going to continue to keep my eye on, and it might be a candidate for them to pick up some of these other guys to get cut elsewhere. When we have these massive receiver battles with other teams, you might see the Raiders front of the line trying to add some of those guys. So keep an eye just to see how that shakes out. It's that, and it's the Falcons edge group because they were They drafted two edge rushers in the first round, and they did it so confidently that I have to see it come to fruition. I need to see this follow through. And James Pierce being one of them, and you said Jaylen Walker being the other, and Pierce had some questions coming out of Tennessee. So got to keep a close eye on that because they are deeper there than they were in previous years, which is big because that was a huge weakness for them last year.

01:02:44
Speaker 3: But a lot of it is unknown.

01:02:46
Speaker 1: We are rolling to fifty nine position battles and as I look at the end, I probably could have cut out like a couple of them, but you know, they say leave them, you know, wanding more.

01:02:56
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll leave you wanding less.

01:02:59
Speaker 1: Number thirty two on this list is the what is the Lions interior offensive line group? So you know now that you've had the retirement of Frank ragnow there already was going to be some change there. Can Tate Ratledge start at center for them? Could he move over to guard? You've got Graham Glasgau there. You've got some players who've been there like that's an important spot for that team.

01:03:21
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers.

01:03:22
Speaker 1: Edge group has a top twelve pick and mikel Williams against a guy they traded for Bryce Huff who's probably going to be more of a situational passwatcher. You have a veteran there, you Turre gross Matos, so that's opposite Nick Bosa. That's a big spot that used to be known for their defensive line, their edge group. Now it's a little more of a question mark. But I think it looks better than it did a year ago. That's an interesting battle. I threw the Lions backup quarterback situation in just because it's the Lions. That's Hendon Hooker. Is he ever gonna become a guy? He's against Kyle Allen. You have the Raiders cornerback we just talked about, you know, wide receiver man cornerback is thin for them there? Who is their cornerback? One to Cameron Richardson Jacorey and Bennett Eric Stots, Darnay like Darning Holmes, like Darien Porter, like who knows who knows? One, two, three? It's wide open. They're a candidate to pick up a veteran. But I'll just be curious to see how that shakes out. You got your Browns running backs here. You will see if quinch On Jenkins is a part of the team. I don't think he will be necessarily early in the season. So that leaves Jerome Ford and Dylan Sampson, who's an interesting prospect, and then the Packers wide receivers will stop there. I think you have to wait for the games to see how the Patrick Packers wide receivers really shake out. Like we know Romeo Dobbs is like a good player. We'll see. I guess you could follow Matthew Golden. It's their first round pick, like how his development is in camp? Do they give a role to save On Williams a third round pick? But we kind of know those Packers receivers. Christian Watson not going to be ready for the start of the season coming off of a torn acl I kind of want to wait for the game for the Packers wide receivers, which is why they were low on my list.

01:05:03
Speaker 2: Who stands out? Who do you want to talk about out of that group? Shooky?

01:05:06
Speaker 5: Well, no, I think it's smart to wait for the games with the Packers just because they've just been so inconsistent year to year with production. But you've seen flashes from basically all of those guys, and then you add in the first round pick, it becomes more interesting. You know, honestly, I look at the forty nine Ers front seven. It's not just the edge group, it's the entire front seven. This is a team that used to have a lot of household names and really their entire defense. They've had so many guys leave, there's been so much turnover. That's a transitional year for them. And they also invested a lot in the front four. They drafted a couple of defensive tackles. But like this front seventh that you looked at now as opposed to previous years, the big names are basically gone. You have Bosa and you have Warner and the rest of it's like, all right, how are these guys going to fit in? So I think that's gonna be something that they're going to sort out in camp. We're gonna see a lot of examples of it during the preseason, but I think it's gonna be a point of mild concern going to this year.

01:05:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I did not include their defensive tackle battle on my list of fifty nine.

01:05:58
Speaker 2: You got to make some choices. Nick fifty nine.

01:06:01
Speaker 3: And C West the former Golden Flash.

01:06:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got two draft picks, Alfred Collins and CJ. West, and then they've got a two veterans who have been pretty forgettable, Kevin Gibbons and Jordan Elliott. Like, these are not the forty nine ers that used to see. And it's interesting how Vegas and the projection models have them ranked so high. Football Outsiders used to be the name. Now it's Aaron Shots at FDN and they have the forty nine ers I think projected to win the third most amount of games in the entire NFL. But man, they have some questions up front.

01:06:34
Speaker 2: All right.

01:06:34
Speaker 1: Continuing on the list, we are down to thirty eight on the list. We got the Bears number three, receiver. So that could be the rookie Luther Burden who they took in the second round. That could be Olomite Zekiist, that could be Devin Duverney, just one of those that's like everyone always slots in the rookie and it's like these guys have actually been in the league for five six years and they might not impress you that much. But like we'll see if Luthor Burden lasts in the NFL five six years, like you don't really, so that's just one to watch. But if he pops off, he has a nice high ceiling to add some juice to that group. The Vikings wide receiver three, they drafted a kid, Ty Felton in the third round. You have Jalen Naylor there, you have Rondelle Moore. They all should have roles, but I'll be keeping an eye on that. The Commanders are looking for a right tackle. They drafted Josh Connerly, but moving him positions to the right side. He'll probably be against Andrew Wiley. That's something to watch. The center at it for the Chargers, they're like rotating Bradley Boseman and Zion Johnson between center and guard. Like I don't know if they did enough at wide receiver or interior offensive line to make me as hyped as I want to be about the Chargers. You have the Panthers edge. Just in general, the Panthers edge group is to me very thin and wide open. Their linebacker is pretty thin as well. I combine that with the Dolphins linebacker, which is guys I know Terrell Dodson who's bounced around with Buffalo and Seattle.

01:07:59
Speaker 2: You have k J.

01:08:00
Speaker 1: Britt used to be with the Bucks, and then Willie Gay. That takes us to number forty three.

01:08:05
Speaker 5: Nick Schouok, kJ Bridchard took Devin White's job in Tampa back in the day. That's probably the group that I like more other than their edge Russian component, considering who they have still coming back. I mean, I look at Carolina and what I see is is a lot of chips being moved to the center of the table on guys that you've drafted, Nick Gorton being one of them. It's but this is what happens when you have a team that you had to steadily rebuild over the years.

01:08:29
Speaker 3: You can't address everything in one or two offseasons.

01:08:31
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a test to them, but they did invest in the back end a lot with Travon Merrig and j C. Horn, So you know, I think that collectively they could probably be better, but they're not going to be super you know. I mean, they have Derek Brown still up there, and he's a hell of a player. So they're just gonna expect a lot of production from key guys without the collective group being super strong.

01:08:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:08:50
Speaker 1: See, like you mentioned the secondary there, I think is telling. Like I'm with you. They made a nice signing Morg, they paid to keep Horn, they brought back Mike Jackson, and so that's three that actually feel pretty good about. But then they're a team that when you look at the depth chart, maybe these guys will step up, but it falls off a cliff after that. And so you need more than three defensive backs their linebacker position, like, you need more than one or two edge that you can count on, and I'm not sure who we can count on.

01:09:17
Speaker 2: There a long way to go.

01:09:19
Speaker 1: Number forty four on the list, your old friend Nick Chubb, the backup battle with the Texans, because I don't think Nick Chubb is gonna start over Joe Mixon, but keep an eye on him. And Demian Pierce is still there. They drafted the running back marks from USC, so that's an interesting backup battle. You're the Browns edge spot is pretty wide open opposite Miles Garrett. Joe Tryon Show Inca, the former Buccaneer is part of that battle with Alex Right. The Texans offensive line, like they blew it up. They got rid of Laramie Tunsel. It is a battle royale for like almost all their spots, and so we'll see how that works out. The line edge group is number forty seven on the list, already got a cross off a name Josh Pascal, at least for the start of the year, and so you're county on Mark Marcus Davenport to stay healthy.

01:10:10
Speaker 2: That is never the best position to be in.

01:10:12
Speaker 1: Still little thin, and you're you're counting on Aiden Hudginson just coming back and being the guy that he has been the Dolphins guard position. You drafted Jonah Sava and Naya to take over that spot. But again you're you're counting on a second round pick to start, and so we'll see if he beats out.

01:10:27
Speaker 2: Liam Eikenberg got the Saints third receiver group. AMN. This group is weird.

01:10:32
Speaker 1: And wide open, but Brandon Cooks is there, and then we wrap up the top fifty with the Seahawks wide receiver number three spot, and I just I wanted more Bobo in this show, so I'm putting that spot there. Jake Bobo, you got Marcus Valdez, Scantling, you got like a third round pick in Tory Horton, and that wraps up the top fifty there.

01:10:53
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:10:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime you can get more Bobo in your life, you have to capitalize on that.

01:10:57
Speaker 3: You have take advantage of it.

01:10:58
Speaker 5: And I would agree, you know, like a top three that includes MVS. I'm just gonna say it right now.

01:11:04
Speaker 1: He probably isn't gonna win that group. I think he'll be fourth or fifth.

01:11:07
Speaker 5: I would like to see more Bobo, I agree. I know we have some people in the newsroom out in LA that would agree with that as well. Really white the third UNLV product i'd like to see. I don't know, it gets pretty thin after the top three, but we do have a lot of attention paid to Cooper Cup and Jackson Smith the Jigy out there with Sam Darnold Man tricky here for them coming off of you know, making some significant changes and everything else could be a bit of a danger.

01:11:32
Speaker 3: There could be walking on some mon steady footing there.

01:11:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm I'm really curious to see and hear the reports about Cooper Cup. You would expect it to be very positive. Sometimes you can't trust everything in camp. Like I remember all the positive reports about Alan Robinson with the Rams a couple of years ago, and it didn't really happen when when the game started. But I will be curious, really curious to see how Cooper Cup season looks in Seattle. But he's not on this list because he's not really battling the final names on these lists. At least these final battles are lesser ones. I mean I ranked them in order. But Rams linebacker is like wide open the end of the roster. Texans wide receivers after the top couple guys, I'm talking about guys like John Metchi. You know Watson's there, justin Watson, the former chief Braxton Barrios.

01:12:20
Speaker 2: That to me is interesting.

01:12:21
Speaker 1: The Browns wide receivers are pretty wide open after Judy and maybe Cedric Tillman.

01:12:27
Speaker 2: The Titans edge group.

01:12:30
Speaker 1: We'll see if their second round pick Oladejo can immediately like become a contributor. Arden Keys is there, Draymont Jones is There're some interesting names. See who ends up on top. You have the forty nine Ers defensive tackle lists we already hit. I guess I did put them on the list, they were just much lower. And the Chargers linebacker Junior Colson, who they were hope they took in the third round, one of the first picks with jun with Jim Harbaugh his former Michigan player. Can he get on the field. He's fighting an uphill battle against Denzel Perryman. And you got your Browns tackle spots they're kind of wide open because of health. The Colts off ball linebacker and yes, the Tech Titans safety position. That was where I was like, okay, I've gone too far. Xavier Woods did it. Third round pick Kevin Winston. I was like, Okay, that's it. Kevin Winston's maybe an interesting player. I think it needs to wrap it up right there?

01:13:21
Speaker 2: They the Browns receiving Yeah, stop, well they have Deontay Johnson, and to me, I find Deontay Johnson interesting.

01:13:30
Speaker 1: Can Deoncey Johnson actually become an NFL player again?

01:13:34
Speaker 2: Is you know in theory.

01:13:36
Speaker 1: Team, like if you had told me two years ago, who would you take out of that entire group that's on the team right now, including Jerry Judy and Cedric Tillman, as like I would be like Deanty Johnson's probably the best player, so you never know, maybe maybe he could be wide receiver one.

01:13:51
Speaker 3: This is no shade towards Cedric Tillman.

01:13:53
Speaker 5: But the fact that you said after Judy and Tilman, I was like, oh, yikes, because.

01:13:57
Speaker 2: Right, well, he's got to make the team. I think he will.

01:14:00
Speaker 5: But like you got Jamari Thrash who was a draft pick, Michael Woods who just hangs around every year. I don't know how, David Bell, who I don't know how he's still on the team. DeAndre Carter was a sneaky ad. I mean, now, this is not a good group. This is not going to be a good offense. Everybody should prepare for that. But I think the Junior Colson thing is interesting to me because for as good of a linebackers who was at Michigan, I felt he was overvalued coming into the NFL and that he ended up with the Chargers at that pick because Harball was the coach there. And so if there's going to be a year for him to prove that he's worth it. I think he starts toward that right now. And it's not a weak group overall. It's just that he's going to battle some guys who have a little bit more playing experience than him, you know, Diane Henley being out there, Perryman, like you mentioned.

01:14:39
Speaker 2: I mean Henley, they're hoping and becomes an all pro. He is a stud.

01:14:43
Speaker 3: He's a study.

01:14:44
Speaker 1: He was their breakout guy a year ago. And yeah, and so Paraman's more of the run stopper. Can you get it? I think I think Henley's kind of taken his job. And it reminds me of our training camp visit to the Chargers last year, and I asked Matt money Smith, this was very early in Chargers camp, give me one player that fans don't know about that could that they should keep an eye on this year.

01:15:06
Speaker 2: And he said, dayon Henley. And he nailed that.

01:15:09
Speaker 1: Because Dan Henley became one of the best young linebackers in the league, and I think he's stolen that spot basically from Junior Colson. We will be heading out to some training camps. We're working on the particulars we got back together Saturday this weekend. NFL Network coming back on air, so our trips will come after that. But I hope we're going to be going to the Saints and the Cowboys, and I believe the Rams this year, so I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to this entire season. Our former Browns employee for a brief time, Nick Shook, we got you back with the NFL, and we couldn't feel any better about it. It's gonna be fun doing this season, and we're going to be doing doing these Sunday nights with you throughout training camp.

01:15:50
Speaker 2: Shookie.

01:15:50
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, looking forward to it. Years ago. I used to sweat wearing a bucket.

01:15:53
Speaker 5: Hat and Beriah, Yeah.

01:15:56
Speaker 2: That's a hot one with you. That's a hot one.

01:15:59
Speaker 1: I'd rather be doing podcast with me, but I'm biased. We will be back on Tuesday with Colleen Wolf. I'm looking forward to getting back inside the Chris Westling podcast studio with my friend Colleen check in on what her summer is like. Yeah, like when the majority of the NFL is literally reporting for training camp tomorrow.

01:16:20
Speaker 2: Like that is the definition of football. Being back