NINE FOOT SASQUATCH SPOTTED ON VANCOUVER ISLAND HIGHWAY | MASSIVE CREATURE WATCHING FROM THE RIVER

<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. Today's guest is Doug from Canada,
<v Speaker 1>and his encounters take us deep into Vancouver Island, one
<v Speaker 1>of the most active and mysterious sasquatch regions in the world.
<v Speaker 1>Around twenty ten, Doug was traveling through the area and
<v Speaker 1>Doug experienced something that stopped him cold. Driving beside a
<v Speaker 1>dry creek bed, he felt a sudden, shocking sensation and
<v Speaker 1>then he saw it, a massive, nine foot tall sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>standing near the roadside watching them pass. Both Doug and
<v Speaker 1>Nathan witnessed the same creature. There was no mistaking what
<v Speaker 1>they saw. Later, near Gold Creek, Doug would experience something
<v Speaker 1>even more unsettling, discovering massive footprints, a strange TP style structure,
<v Speaker 1>and coming face to face with another large creature perched
<v Speaker 1>on a rock by the river. Tonight, Doug shares what
<v Speaker 1>he saw, what he fantet, and how these experiences change
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, actually I've had more than one situation.
<v Speaker 2>It was the main one, which is what happened was
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try to reference this with my nephew. He
<v Speaker 2>was with me and his name is Nathan. I call
<v Speaker 2>him Nathy, but he was he's actually a missionary kid, right.
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, if we were I'm trying to remember fourteen
<v Speaker 2>at the time, and he's let's see, he's about thirty
<v Speaker 2>eight now, So what would that be fifteen years ago
<v Speaker 2>around them? So what would that put that at the
<v Speaker 2>year two thousand and what ten? Maybe, so it would
<v Speaker 2>have been around that time two thousand and eight, two
<v Speaker 2>thousand and ten. And we he came. It was late spring,
<v Speaker 2>and he'd been homeschooled, right, so he had time off
<v Speaker 2>when he wanted it with his mom and dad. So
<v Speaker 2>he came with me to have you ever heard of
<v Speaker 2>Vancouver Island? Yeah? I have. Yeah, it's a it's a
<v Speaker 2>big island off the thirty miles out in the ocean
<v Speaker 2>off of Vancouver anyway, very very beautiful, it's almost tropical.
<v Speaker 2>So we were over there working on a mural for
<v Speaker 2>one of the cities over there, and so we were
<v Speaker 2>coming back and we got off the ferry and then
<v Speaker 2>where we had stopped at my mom's place, probably when
<v Speaker 2>we left my mom's we saw this thing about fifteen
<v Speaker 2>minutes later, because where she lives is at the east
<v Speaker 2>end of what we call the Lord Mainland. And then
<v Speaker 2>then the road goes north and it's a term we used,
<v Speaker 2>going up country is what they call it. And from
<v Speaker 2>that point on you're on the old Yukon Bulrush Trail.
<v Speaker 2>They're good roads and everything, but it's all very very
<v Speaker 2>rocky and mountainous. But so we had taken the southern
<v Speaker 2>taken the southern route because we were going back to
<v Speaker 2>where we were living at the time in Kelowna. And anyways,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you ever heard of the Ogo Pogo.
<v Speaker 2>That's another very big cryptic thing, but lives in that
<v Speaker 2>lake where in that town where we were living. But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so we're going on the Cocohalla, which is very very
<v Speaker 2>it's like the snow Qualmie of Seattle. It's it's almost
<v Speaker 2>exactly the same. It's very very high mountains and very
<v Speaker 2>rugged and very beautiful. But it starts about fifteen minutes
<v Speaker 2>from my mom's place. So we had left this little
<v Speaker 2>town of Hope, which literally looks like a bookend. Mount
<v Speaker 2>Shasta and all high mountains and very beautiful tourist area.
<v Speaker 2>And so we had left there and we were going
<v Speaker 2>up the Cocahalla Pass and we're driving along, but at
<v Speaker 2>first it drives very low along the rivers, and then
<v Speaker 2>I starts climbing and climbing. Right, But we're going along
<v Speaker 2>and the you know, the roads zagging between the mountains
<v Speaker 2>and the valleys, and and all of a sudden, and
<v Speaker 2>on that road, I don't know, we call them the
<v Speaker 2>there's concrete. They're about three feet high and they run
<v Speaker 2>the length of the highway on both sides and right
<v Speaker 2>in the middle. Do you know what I mean. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>they're big dividers, you know. And so the reason I'm
<v Speaker 2>saying that is because you can see over the middle
<v Speaker 2>only a few feet high, but you can't pull it
<v Speaker 2>over anywhere, sometimes for forty miles at a time, right,
<v Speaker 2>and you can pass in the three lanes on your side,
<v Speaker 2>but you you know, nobody can pull from the other
<v Speaker 2>side and hit you or anything. And they have them
<v Speaker 2>because there's cliffs everywhere. And the reason I'm saying that
<v Speaker 2>is because we came around the corner and it was
<v Speaker 2>about mid day, it was about four in the afternoon,
<v Speaker 2>I think it was late May, and I just turned
<v Speaker 2>and were there's speed Liment along there as about seventy
<v Speaker 2>miles from now, and we're going along and I turned
<v Speaker 2>and there was a dry creek that it was about
<v Speaker 2>the sixty feet wide and all the rock and it
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know if you know river rock
<v Speaker 2>what is, but it was all basically these smooth stones
<v Speaker 2>in there, and they were very they had powder on
<v Speaker 2>them like they when they're really dry. They almost it
<v Speaker 2>almost fit chop on them. And it was down about
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe six or eighty feet below the road,
<v Speaker 2>but you could look down and look across it, and
<v Speaker 2>of course, because it's a wide creek bed, there's nothing
<v Speaker 2>growing in it, right, and then of course there's bush
<v Speaker 2>and shrubs and everything on the other side and trees
<v Speaker 2>and allant. But we're driving along and I turned and
<v Speaker 2>I looked, and I kept driving, and all of a sudden,
<v Speaker 2>I was getting these shock waves going through me. And
<v Speaker 2>the first thing I thought was like, why would a
<v Speaker 2>guy be walking along down there, you know, and how
<v Speaker 2>did he even get down there? And uh, And then
<v Speaker 2>then it just kind of did a boomerang in my
<v Speaker 2>head of what I'd seen and I'm like just I'm
<v Speaker 2>literally all almost sick, and I'm getting shock raised. You know,
<v Speaker 2>like the reason I said all that other stuff is
<v Speaker 2>because you can't stop, and in order you can't back
<v Speaker 2>up or anything, you'd have to drive ten miles up
<v Speaker 2>the road around and go all the way back about
<v Speaker 2>twenty miles southman turn around, come back up, so you
<v Speaker 2>couldn't go back and look at it. And I'm like
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden freaking over what I've seen. And
<v Speaker 2>all I did was I said to my nephew, I said, Nathan,
<v Speaker 2>and he's you know, he's about six feet tall. It's
<v Speaker 2>a big kid. But you know he's like, I saw it.
<v Speaker 2>I saw it. I'll go and I'm like, what did
<v Speaker 2>you see? Said the same freaking thing you saw? And
<v Speaker 2>then he I got him to describe it first, right,
<v Speaker 2>see if he saw exactly what I saw? And he said,
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I saw, And that was a thing that
<v Speaker 2>was probably i don't know, eight nine feet tall. It
<v Speaker 2>looked exactly like the images you see right like it'd
<v Speaker 2>had you know, how can I put it? The head
<v Speaker 2>went into the shoulder was no, you know, like it
<v Speaker 2>just went like this thick, thick shouldery thing. It came
<v Speaker 2>right up into the head, you know, and its arms
<v Speaker 2>were lingering down like way down its sides and huge,
<v Speaker 2>huge thick arms and legs, and you could tell like
<v Speaker 2>it the hair wasn't long, but you could tell that
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was very thick, and you know, it
<v Speaker 2>was black or what looked to be black anyway, and
<v Speaker 2>it stood out against those river rocks perfectly. When it
<v Speaker 2>saw us, it looked up and it just stopped. It
<v Speaker 2>had nowhere to run and hide. It could do nothing,
<v Speaker 2>so it literally stood there. But it was standing there,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was so contrasted by that gray white
<v Speaker 2>rock that was standing on. It was everywhere right it
<v Speaker 2>was behind it. It was thirty feet each side of it.
<v Speaker 2>And all it did was stop and looked straight up
<v Speaker 2>at us. And I mean it was unbelievable. You know.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what a black widow spider is?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I do. We have him here in Missouri.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've got them here too. And I mean one
<v Speaker 2>day my son walked into the garage and the dad,
<v Speaker 2>you go running in there and there's a shiny, bulbous,
<v Speaker 2>you know, spider with these needle like legs on it,
<v Speaker 2>and I mean just creeps you out, they're not that big,
<v Speaker 2>but everything about it said stay away. Well, that's exactly
<v Speaker 2>the same feeling with this thing. It's like you do
<v Speaker 2>not want to meet that thing. And it was it
<v Speaker 2>was mind blowing. It looked. It took me a couple
<v Speaker 2>of days to get over the shock I kept getting
<v Speaker 2>from it. So yeah, that's basically the story, right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never heard anyone say that, the like the
<v Speaker 1>comparison to the Black Widow. And yeah, I've seen the
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch as well, and yeah, that's very true. Like when
<v Speaker 1>you see them, like you get the feeling like stay away,
<v Speaker 1>Like you have this I don't know instinct within within you,
<v Speaker 1>like this primal instinct that says, do not pursue this thing.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And I mean I listened to David Politis.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know him, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>can I'm missing for one one, you know who he is. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and and sorry, I mean you might be on the
<v Speaker 2>side that he is. And I know he has all
<v Speaker 2>kinds of great background, all the stuff, and he does
<v Speaker 2>research totally United States in Canada. But I disagree that
<v Speaker 2>this thing is spiritual. I don't believe that at all.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's one thousand percent a real animal.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're definitely real. They're out there, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. And I mean I've had numerous situations like
<v Speaker 2>on Vangkoriv and I go there quite a bit. It's
<v Speaker 2>very it's almost a sub tropical kind of a situation.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of it has a very Hawaii type thing
<v Speaker 2>going on, and there's huge ferns and people come from
<v Speaker 2>around the world to go there. It's it's it's fabulously
<v Speaker 2>place and there's a lot of while there is there's
<v Speaker 2>big huge cliffs and waterfalls everythingwhere, and hidden beautiful emerald
<v Speaker 2>lakes and caves. I mean, it's just got it all
<v Speaker 2>bays and everything. But so I go over there a
<v Speaker 2>lot ocean kayaking to all kinds of stuff. But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so I was over by a place called Gold River
<v Speaker 2>on the west side there a couple of years ago,
<v Speaker 2>and it was about eight o'clock in the morning, camp
<v Speaker 2>out and all these wilderness place six my four by
<v Speaker 2>four out and it was on the ridge of this
<v Speaker 2>very sandy, sandy beach. This river it's just it's it's
<v Speaker 2>like this beautiful Emerald river that goes out into the ocean.
<v Speaker 2>And it's on First Nations what we call First Nations Land,
<v Speaker 2>Native Indian land and but your logical there. But any anyways,
<v Speaker 2>so I went up in there and I pulled over.
<v Speaker 2>The first thing I see is one of these I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what they call them. I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>you know who Todd standing? Do you know who he is?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I know Todd.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, Todd talks about this all the time. And
<v Speaker 2>they're these sort of keepyet things that they build out
<v Speaker 2>in the bush and nobody comes near. You know what
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I found them in Missouri.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm climbing up in this very
<v Speaker 2>almost semi tropical kind of a set. It's just very beautiful,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, a mountain in the background, but very
<v Speaker 2>very very it's always funny and very warm there a
<v Speaker 2>lot and anyway, So but it's an area nobody's in.
<v Speaker 2>And that's the first thing as I see is one
<v Speaker 2>of these things, about three or four feet tall. And
<v Speaker 2>I had my sly rod and I was going to
<v Speaker 2>go for a swim and I was going to come
<v Speaker 2>back and meet breakfast. It was early in the morning, summertime,
<v Speaker 2>and so I climbed down the other side of this
<v Speaker 2>sandy thing and through the trees and fish for a while,
<v Speaker 2>and then I ove there and I was swimming around
<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling you, I'm I'm I don't and I
<v Speaker 2>get all religious, but I'm a boring and Christian, right,
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I mean when I say this, I
<v Speaker 2>mean it like before the Lord God, I climbed in there,
<v Speaker 2>and I thought I climbed out exactly the same freaking place, right,
<v Speaker 2>and there's like, I don't know, the whole side of
<v Speaker 2>the beach, that sand. It was fairly deep, and you
<v Speaker 2>know it's a very nice white sand, but there's huge
<v Speaker 2>footprints all over the place, no lie, And I mean
<v Speaker 2>it freaked me. I'm like, okay, I'm out of here.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know they can be very quiet, but
<v Speaker 2>I literally thought I got out of the water and
<v Speaker 2>climbed right back up exactly where I got in. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>And I had one other incident with another another friend
<v Speaker 2>of mine. Oh I don't know, it might have been
<v Speaker 2>six seven years ago to now. And he he's been
<v Speaker 2>into sasquatch stuff his whole life. He's very he's a
<v Speaker 2>very rugged kind of a guy. Built his own post
<v Speaker 2>and bean house way out in the bush, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and he does a lot of stuff on his own,
<v Speaker 2>sort of a renaissance man guy, and we always hang
<v Speaker 2>out all the time. But anyways, see I said to
<v Speaker 2>him one day, I said, Steve, why don't we just
<v Speaker 2>get up early in the morning one day, like I'll
<v Speaker 2>come and get you, or you can come and get me,
<v Speaker 2>and we'll go out to Shehali's. Well, she Hail this
<v Speaker 2>is actually the place where the Sasquatch was named by
<v Speaker 2>the the Sheilas Indians, right, And anyways, he goes, yeah, hey,
<v Speaker 2>what a cool idea. Let's go up the Seals River,
<v Speaker 2>which would blow your mind if you ever saw it.
<v Speaker 2>It's an unbelievable fad and the huge cliffs that go
<v Speaker 2>into this incredible river and gorge and all that. So
<v Speaker 2>we got up there and we're hiking up this trail
<v Speaker 2>and I'm saying to Steve that I'm looking at these
<v Speaker 2>foot prince, and he's like, shut up. And I turned
<v Speaker 2>and he's got his exams on phone and he's filming something.
<v Speaker 2>And I walked up to him. He just put his
<v Speaker 2>hand on me and just you know, be quiet, and
<v Speaker 2>I looked out at what he was doing, and he
<v Speaker 2>was looking over the cliff of the river and there
<v Speaker 2>was a huge rock between our side of the river
<v Speaker 2>and the other side where there was probably I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>a fifty foot rock cliff that he went straight down
<v Speaker 2>into that gorge and there's a thing sitting on there.
<v Speaker 2>And so you probably saw Harry and the Henderson's right,
<v Speaker 2>the comical you know you've seen that, yeah, yeah, So
<v Speaker 2>he looked different, like this thing looked very much not
<v Speaker 2>with a goofy face, but that same kind of a build.
<v Speaker 2>But the hair was like an oranguting. It was orange
<v Speaker 2>and it was very long, like it was almost like
<v Speaker 2>it had a mine on the top and it was
<v Speaker 2>playing around. It was sitting on that rock between and
<v Speaker 2>this river is like almost a whitewater river. It's not
<v Speaker 2>super deep, but well it's it probably it might have
<v Speaker 2>been twenty five feet deep there or something. And that
<v Speaker 2>area in that river is known for a huge, huge
<v Speaker 2>trout in there, and anyway, so it's sitting there and
<v Speaker 2>this is again this early in the morning's probably in
<v Speaker 2>the summertime, I don't know. We tried to get out
<v Speaker 2>there early, really really early, so it was probably about
<v Speaker 2>six seven in the morning, but there was lots of sunlight.
<v Speaker 2>By then the sun was well up and cutting through
<v Speaker 2>the trees and all that, and this thing sitting there
<v Speaker 2>holding this long stick like thing that was like spiraled around,
<v Speaker 2>and in the next moment it literally was across the
<v Speaker 2>river and standing on the edge. There was a little
<v Speaker 2>cliff that run along like a path that ran along
<v Speaker 2>beside the river, right up against the rock cliffs. Amazing,
<v Speaker 2>and he got pictures of that. So those are those
<v Speaker 2>are the handful of experiences that I've had with the Sasquatch.
<v Speaker 2>And there's here in this area. There is tons and
<v Speaker 2>tons of people that will tell you that they've seen it.
<v Speaker 2>And there's a place, oh probably as the crow flies.
<v Speaker 2>It might be three hundred miles north of here, and
<v Speaker 2>you drive down to it and the elevation drops from
<v Speaker 2>like four thousand seat down sea level in I don't
<v Speaker 2>know what it is, eight or nine miles and it's
<v Speaker 2>almost impossible to drive down to this town called Bellacula.
<v Speaker 2>It's all First Nations, very beautiful island is everywhere and anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so we went there a few times, me and my family,
<v Speaker 2>and then a friend of mine needed to ride up
<v Speaker 2>there one time. It's carbooked down, so he asked me
<v Speaker 2>to drive them up there, and everybody in that town
<v Speaker 2>they said, well, this mountain right here is called eight Ape,
<v Speaker 2>you know, Gorilla Epe Mountain, and the people there, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's very well documented and everything like that. But they
<v Speaker 2>say all the time these things come into their backyards
<v Speaker 2>and people see them, and there's tons of them that
<v Speaker 2>lived on this mountain. And yeah, British Columbia is like
<v Speaker 2>laced with stories like this.
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's truly.
<v Speaker 2>You've never been here, No, I haven't. You've never been here.
<v Speaker 2>You should come here.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd like to. It's definitely on my bucket list
<v Speaker 1>to do. I'd love to visit Canada and the wilderness
<v Speaker 1>is just pristine there. It makes sense why some many
<v Speaker 1>people have experiences in that area. What kind of reports
<v Speaker 1>have you heard from the locals or the First Nations
<v Speaker 1>people in the area.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, I can tell you something that will probably
<v Speaker 2>blow your socks off. So the Steve guy, who I
<v Speaker 2>went and we saw that thing at she Hal's, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>there's a she Hals Washington that's right below us. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you ever heard it, but they're connected, right,
<v Speaker 2>And the name is Shah Haylis, right, But anyways, it's
<v Speaker 2>it's a very renowned area. But so that friend of mine, Steve,
<v Speaker 2>he were all artists, right, and he he carves like us.
<v Speaker 2>He used to change these chainsaw carver and he carves
<v Speaker 2>these huge bears and sasquatches, and they're sold all over
<v Speaker 2>the world. He is very, very good at it. And
<v Speaker 2>so the reason I said that is because he's he
<v Speaker 2>had a shop where he sold them out at Harrison Lake.
<v Speaker 2>And that's a major tourist there. Tom Tom what's his name,
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise just bought a huge piece of land there
<v Speaker 2>and uh, it's it's a really really fabulous place. But anyways,
<v Speaker 2>and they have they have South Quatch Days there every
<v Speaker 2>year where they have people coming in and lecture and
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of things. But any anyways, so the First
<v Speaker 2>Nations area there, like my buddy, he had a he
<v Speaker 2>had a shop just going in about two miles out
<v Speaker 2>of Harrison. This is probably about thirty five forty miles
<v Speaker 2>from where I saw that Southquatch. But so Steve tells
<v Speaker 2>me this this story that I believe with all my
<v Speaker 2>heart now. And so Steve's a good buddy of mine.
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of an accident. I don't know he was.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm very liberal kind of guy. Okay, anyway,
<v Speaker 2>he's not a Christian, I am, but we're really good friends.
<v Speaker 2>We grew up Hill and Steve's telling me one day,
<v Speaker 2>he's like, he goes, so this guy walked in the
<v Speaker 2>door one day and he said, Doug, the guy had
<v Speaker 2>to bend down to get in. And he said, I'm
<v Speaker 2>telling you, this guy was over seven feet tall and
<v Speaker 2>his his what you call it his girth, you know,
<v Speaker 2>his wids was so big he had almost sideways to
<v Speaker 2>get in, and he was wearing huge shoes. And I've
<v Speaker 2>known Steve forever. He's no kind of a bullshitter. And
<v Speaker 2>he said he looked at the guy and he didn't
<v Speaker 2>say anything, but he was like blown away. And the
<v Speaker 2>guy started talking to him, both selling some First Nations
<v Speaker 2>artwork to him, selling the shop right, and Steve gets
<v Speaker 2>talking to him. He goes, yeah, I know, I know,
<v Speaker 2>I know you're thinking because the guy had air everywhere
<v Speaker 2>and he swore and Steve believed him because he said,
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything like this in my life and
<v Speaker 2>he swore that this guy his story was that his
<v Speaker 2>mother had been kidnapped, and there's a number of reports
<v Speaker 2>like this and taken to a Sasquatch place, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>he was she was pregnant, impregnated by one of these things.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, there's many many stories like that, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>and I had I had a very hard time. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I believe that the guy was odd looking. But I'm
<v Speaker 2>like Steve, I don't know if you can believe a
<v Speaker 2>story like that. And he says, well, at the end
<v Speaker 2>of Stave Lake, so where we live is sub Mission
<v Speaker 2>is where I'm where I live. And so there's these lakes.
<v Speaker 2>There's there's Pitt Lake, which is fifteen miles to the
<v Speaker 2>west of US Alouette Lake and which is to the
<v Speaker 2>west of US too, but maybe ten months. And then
<v Speaker 2>there's Pitt Lake just just above Mission. And these are
<v Speaker 2>all very big lakes. And then and then what is it,
<v Speaker 2>there's one more, but they all converge at the headwaters
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, miles and miles and miles of the
<v Speaker 2>bush way up into the mountains, and and they they
<v Speaker 2>come down well at the end of Harrison Lake, which
<v Speaker 2>is the other lake, which is just to the east,
<v Speaker 2>probably twenty miles east of US. Here seems they're, like
<v Speaker 2>I said, very big lakes. And but at the headwaters
<v Speaker 2>of all of these lakes where they converge as a huge,
<v Speaker 2>huge dam up there. But but there's a there's a
<v Speaker 2>little place called Port Douglas, and from there you can
<v Speaker 2>take these gravel roads for I don't know, one hundred
<v Speaker 2>miles orth and get some other little townships that are
<v Speaker 2>way way up there. I mean, this is like an
<v Speaker 2>expedition to go. It's like it's so far to go
<v Speaker 2>on these in these places. And and anyways, at the
<v Speaker 2>headwaters there, there's a mountain there that has not been
<v Speaker 2>you know, they do this logging, and so a couple
<v Speaker 2>of the mountain faces on either side of this one
<v Speaker 2>mountain have been logged off, but this one mountain has
<v Speaker 2>been left in the red Port Dougles. And the reason
<v Speaker 2>is because the logging companies that were in there were
<v Speaker 2>having all kinds of stuff thrown around, like like you know,
<v Speaker 2>liked a cat slipped over, and there's like crazy stuff
<v Speaker 2>all over the place, you know, big huge fifty gallon
<v Speaker 2>drums of oil thrown over here and there. And this
<v Speaker 2>was constantly happening, and they were seeing these things right
<v Speaker 2>like these Sasquatches and the First Nations people were, you know,
<v Speaker 2>freaking out and demanding that they wouldn't they wouldn't log that,
<v Speaker 2>and they decided they wouldn't because they're having too much
<v Speaker 2>trouble there. So they logged either side, but they wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>touch that that mountain. And this guy that I was
<v Speaker 2>talking about, he said that it was his mom was
<v Speaker 2>from there and she was taken up into the mountains,
<v Speaker 2>and so Steve had told me that. Well, anyway, a
<v Speaker 2>few years later, I was asked by the First Nations
<v Speaker 2>here in my town and mission, and there's there's mountains
<v Speaker 2>and everything all the way around us, like it's a
<v Speaker 2>very very beautiful area, right. But anyway, so they said,
<v Speaker 2>you know, Doug, would you you know, will pay if
<v Speaker 2>you if you can come and do a First Nations
<v Speaker 2>mural here and in the foyer of their Native Friendship Center.
<v Speaker 2>It's got like total pulls outside and everything. And you
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of the First Nations people that aren't
<v Speaker 2>that don't do well. They give them free launches and
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff there, right, and do Native drumming classes
<v Speaker 2>and all the stuff. Sort of laying down, I'm not
<v Speaker 2>feeling too good today, but anyway, So, uh, what was
<v Speaker 2>I gonna say? So I went in with this lady
<v Speaker 2>to meet the accountant, and of course, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>they're the first Nations people, right, And I'm seeing this
<v Speaker 2>woman sitting at a desk, right, So I'm looking at
<v Speaker 2>the back of her long black hair, no big deal, normal,
<v Speaker 2>like she's a Native, and I swear to God. She
<v Speaker 2>turned around and her face was coloncave. You know what
<v Speaker 2>cloncave is, Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I do.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a crescent moon. And she has these ginormous
<v Speaker 2>black eyes and her skin was it was very dark,
<v Speaker 2>olive green, and I swear to God, and I felt
<v Speaker 2>like I was going to drop on the floor, and
<v Speaker 2>she got very angry and didn't say anything. Well, the
<v Speaker 2>lady was with her name was Wendy, so she took
<v Speaker 2>me out and then gave me a deposit check for
<v Speaker 2>the mural. And I never saw this lady again. But
<v Speaker 2>I told my buddy Steve about it, and he goes, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>he goes, that's right, and I'm like, all right, I'm
<v Speaker 2>a believer, and there's a lot of these stories, so
<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds right whack, but yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
<v Speaker 1>And what's your theory about the sasquatch. What do you
<v Speaker 1>think they are? What do you think you encountered that
<v Speaker 1>day that you were driving.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't believe in evolution, but I believe that
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, in the Good Book it actually says
<v Speaker 2>that God is able to keep all of his creation
<v Speaker 2>and that sounds wild. But I don't know if you're
<v Speaker 2>eating two other crypto things. But I've been studying a
<v Speaker 2>lot of this for years, and I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>think it was like the University of Michigan or something
<v Speaker 2>like that a number of years ago took a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of its students on a field trip to what the
<v Speaker 2>heck was it? New Guinea, which is just north of Australia, right,
<v Speaker 2>It used to be part of Australia, and it's a
<v Speaker 2>very wild area out there. I got a buddy of mine,
<v Speaker 2>he's an overman now, but he worked all over the world.
<v Speaker 2>He spent a lot of time working in New Guinea
<v Speaker 2>and within oh, I can't remember how many weeks this
<v Speaker 2>was like in a creation science magazine, right, remember reading
<v Speaker 2>a story. Within a couple of weeks that they were there,
<v Speaker 2>they discovered fifty some odd new species. Along with I
<v Speaker 2>forget twenty or thirty species. They were supposed to have
<v Speaker 2>gone extinct millions of years ago, right, So what I
<v Speaker 2>think is, I think there's a lot of things that
<v Speaker 2>maybe not be discovered, or that places like the Smithsonian
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want us to know that are there for many reasons,
<v Speaker 2>and they cover things up. But I believe that it
<v Speaker 2>is it's basically some sort of a North America. But
<v Speaker 2>it seems to be beyond that because and people would say, well,
<v Speaker 2>it's a missing link. I don't think it is a
<v Speaker 2>missing link. I think it's I think it's it's a
<v Speaker 2>type of speech. It's to me, it's you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>the Yetti, it's the Abominable Snowman, it's whatever other name
<v Speaker 2>it's called by around the world. But it seems to
<v Speaker 2>have an intelligence about it that it's very unique, you know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know. I believe it's some
<v Speaker 2>sort of a North American ape, but I can't just
<v Speaker 2>say they're North America. I mean they're found in Russia, China, everywhere. Right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>what do you think it is? What do you what
<v Speaker 2>do you think it is?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like there's clues, especially in the
<v Speaker 1>Bible when they talk about the Nephloon the giants, and
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're connected to that in some way,
<v Speaker 1>shape or form. But overall, I definitely feel like they're
<v Speaker 1>their own species. And I think sasquatch is a great
<v Speaker 1>name for it. I don't think it's like a prime
<v Speaker 1>a human. I just feel like they're sasquatch and that's
<v Speaker 1>what they are.
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, they're very very unique. I mean, we have
<v Speaker 2>a story here. You might have heard about it right
<v Speaker 2>here in Mission that what was the guy's name? You
<v Speaker 2>probably you probably know his name, but me I used
<v Speaker 2>to read his books. He was a Sasquatch under back
<v Speaker 2>in that seventy something green. He was from here in
<v Speaker 2>British Columbia. Very well known guy, but he recorded tons
<v Speaker 2>and tons of stories like long ago when there wasn't
<v Speaker 2>very many people doing this at all. He's referred to
<v Speaker 2>all the time. He's like a grandfather of you know,
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch hunters. Right, But he recorded in one of his books, Uh,
<v Speaker 2>pardon me, there was this guy, Charlie somebody. He was
<v Speaker 2>a First Nations guy. And they speak their own language
<v Speaker 2>is out here, but they also they speak English too, right,
<v Speaker 2>you know. But anyway, So this guy was from I
<v Speaker 2>think it was a place called Ruby Creek, which is
<v Speaker 2>about thirty five miles east of here. But he came
<v Speaker 2>out here hunting to Mission and a place called Hatswick,
<v Speaker 2>which is Hatchet Benches about two miles from where I
<v Speaker 2>am right now, and it sits at the back of
<v Speaker 2>Hatsack Lake, and it's a good hunting area there, right.
<v Speaker 2>So he came out to go hunting one early one morning,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know it was spring or summer, and
<v Speaker 2>people hunting the winter drive here. Could have been the fall,
<v Speaker 2>but I think it was spring or summer. And anyways,
<v Speaker 2>so he sees what he thinks is a bear and
<v Speaker 2>it's lighted us this sort of wine. But it's sitting
<v Speaker 2>in what you call it the sort of the like
<v Speaker 2>at the base of a tree. There's sort of a
<v Speaker 2>hollow there, right, and it's up a hill, it's up
<v Speaker 2>a ridge. He's climbing white and he sees this. So
<v Speaker 2>he shoots it, and all of a sudden it's letting off.
<v Speaker 2>He's bellowing, cries, and he the thing tries to get up,
<v Speaker 2>and he's sure he just hit, you know, like a
<v Speaker 2>little black kid or something, right, And he goes running
<v Speaker 2>up and it's this hairy looking thing that's about four
<v Speaker 2>feet tall, and you know, he doesn't know what to do,
<v Speaker 2>and he's feeling terrible because he doesn't want to kill it.
<v Speaker 2>He's thinking that, you know, half human or some strange
<v Speaker 2>human and boy and and then he hears this, you know,
<v Speaker 2>thundering sound, breaking branches coming through the leaves coming down,
<v Speaker 2>you know, the lower part of the mountain he was on.
<v Speaker 2>He sees his sasquatch thing, you know, and it's got
<v Speaker 2>a stick in a ten like we've seen and he
<v Speaker 2>starts pounding on the ground and a few minutes later
<v Speaker 2>another one comes and he realizes that they both females
<v Speaker 2>had both got breast like the Gimme One film and
<v Speaker 2>this was like nineteen thirty something. And the second one
<v Speaker 2>comes down and picks up you know this, you know
<v Speaker 2>child south Quatch and looks at him and literally speaks
<v Speaker 2>to him in Sheehalis and the Hive Indian and Charlie
<v Speaker 2>could speak English and in that language, and then converse
<v Speaker 2>with him and said, you know, basically, you're cursed. You're
<v Speaker 2>never gonna you're never gonna be able to hunt. You know, game,
<v Speaker 2>a game which was a very big deal to him,
<v Speaker 2>and apparently he could never you know, shoot or hit
<v Speaker 2>another animal rest of his life. And the guy wrote
<v Speaker 2>that Green and trying to remember his name, Bill Green
<v Speaker 2>or somebody was a very very serious man, and he
<v Speaker 2>was he was noted worldwide like he was. He was
<v Speaker 2>right there at the Gimlin thing when that happened. He
<v Speaker 2>literally flew down like like as Susie heard about it.
<v Speaker 2>He was down there and he helped bring the their
<v Speaker 2>their their footage to UBT. He was part of that
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. So uh yeah, and that's not That was
<v Speaker 2>the first time that they've ever recorded or there was
<v Speaker 2>ever a report that's that one of these soon spoke
<v Speaker 2>a human language. Since then, there's been a number of
<v Speaker 2>different ones, right, But I don't know if that's true.
<v Speaker 2>Who can tell. I don't know as far as the
<v Speaker 2>Nephelin thing that that could be, that could be. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I've thought about that sort of thing too. But if
<v Speaker 2>it is, it's not an etherial thing that comes and goes,
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe it is. I think it's it's it's
<v Speaker 2>the offspring of something, right, That would be my thing
<v Speaker 2>on it. But yeah, pretty amazing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would agree with that.
<v Speaker 2>What was your experience, what happened to you? Cut? Where
<v Speaker 2>did you see? South Squatch show that happen?
<v Speaker 1>The main one that I saw. I was out picking
<v Speaker 1>edible mushrooms in the forest. And I'd been having activity
<v Speaker 1>prior to that, as far as hearing strange whistles, seeing
<v Speaker 1>strange lights out in the woods, finding tree structures, and
<v Speaker 1>receiving what people call gifts from these creatures. But that
<v Speaker 1>day I was coming back from picking.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're receiving what.
<v Speaker 1>Like gifts like where they leave like items in the
<v Speaker 1>middle of the trail, or strange things like dead animals,
<v Speaker 1>things like that. Yeah, yeah, But I was coming back
<v Speaker 1>from picking mushrooms. I thought I heard a sound of
<v Speaker 1>my left and it just sounded like a squirrel in
<v Speaker 1>the woods. But at that point I'm pretty paranoid because
<v Speaker 1>of the experiences that I'd been having. And then I
<v Speaker 1>took a few more steps and I heard something else again,
<v Speaker 1>And when I looked, I saw this big black creature,
<v Speaker 1>probably about anywhere from six.
<v Speaker 3>To eight feet tall.
<v Speaker 1>It was coal black, this jet black color, had a
<v Speaker 1>round head, flat nose, long thin lips, big brow ridge.
<v Speaker 1>He was real bulky, but I mean, he wasn't like
<v Speaker 1>shredded like the Hulk. But he walked off and it
<v Speaker 1>was just like the Patty film like when it walked,
<v Speaker 1>it didn't like run, And it looked over at me
<v Speaker 1>a few times as it walked away, and it disappeared
<v Speaker 1>into the thick cedar trees. And I kind of took
<v Speaker 1>off and ran after it. And I didn't see it.
<v Speaker 1>I just knew the direction that it went. And I
<v Speaker 1>got to a certain point and stood there and just listened,
<v Speaker 1>and I could hear this thing breathing like it was
<v Speaker 1>ticked off that I followed it, and it sounded like
<v Speaker 1>a horse when it exhales, just like a like a
<v Speaker 1>big angry caveman. Pretty much.
<v Speaker 2>How far away from it were you?
<v Speaker 1>I was probably anywhere from I don't know, I'd say
<v Speaker 1>like twenty or thirty yards from it.
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't far away.
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. Well, yeah it was a year by yourself.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was by myself.
<v Speaker 2>Wow, So that is that I can't remember Missouri. But
<v Speaker 2>Missouri is not really good. A lot of mountains, right,
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of lowland kind of, isn't it.
<v Speaker 3>A lot of it's farm land.
<v Speaker 1>But then like the central part where I'm at and
<v Speaker 1>down south is known as the Ozark Mountains. They're not
<v Speaker 1>huge mountains you guys have in the Rockies, but they're
<v Speaker 1>still really really big hills.
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh yeah. Wow. Yeah, Well, I guess Missouri is
<v Speaker 2>what just above what what what's around Missouri, Ohio and
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, Nebraska.
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas and Arks.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Just right below us is Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>Right right right? Okay, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Missouri has like what they call them is very monster.
<v Speaker 1>They call it the Momo, and then Arkansas has like
<v Speaker 1>the South Monster and the Boggy Creek Monster.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Bogie Creek story. That was a really amazing story.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so essentially.
<v Speaker 1>What's essentially it's the same area that's still considered the Ozarks.
<v Speaker 1>The Ozarks goes through Missouri and Arkansas.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bogie Creek is almost it's almost like by you,
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.
<v Speaker 1>Sort of It's not too far away, I'd say about
<v Speaker 1>six hours from me. I mean still pretty far, no,
<v Speaker 1>but I.
<v Speaker 2>Mean it's like it's it's like but the creek though,
<v Speaker 2>is like like southern.
<v Speaker 3>Like a swamp. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to truck drive down to
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, So I used to truck drive right through
<v Speaker 2>those right.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of reports. Hey, there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot report in those vyoues.
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, if there was, you know, if
<v Speaker 2>you were to believe something, you can live down there.
<v Speaker 2>It would be easy to believe in that area for sure. Absolutely. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I was just going to ask you how many people
<v Speaker 2>live in Missouri.
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know that. I'm not sure what the
<v Speaker 1>population is. I'm from a small town, and further south
<v Speaker 1>is even smaller towns. But there's a few big cities.
<v Speaker 2>In Missouri, right well, British Columbia, I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>it's called. The Vancouver area has got about three million
<v Speaker 2>people of it. But outside, once you get out to
<v Speaker 2>the outer edge sort of because it's all mountainous to
<v Speaker 2>the North Lake, you could literally go from here to
<v Speaker 2>Moscow and not run into anybody. It's it's major, major
<v Speaker 2>wilderness area, right So in Canada's second biggest country in
<v Speaker 2>the world. So they say there's like one person for
<v Speaker 2>every five or six miles. It's it's incredibly sparse. Right. So,
<v Speaker 2>once you get outside the Lower Mainland, as I say,
<v Speaker 2>you're in an area where you know, there's far far
<v Speaker 2>more animals than there is people. You know, That's why
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of bringing it up. But it would
<v Speaker 2>seem to me that the more men mankind, whatever you
<v Speaker 2>want to call it, sort of encroaches because we're getting
<v Speaker 2>more and more and building more cities and towns, that
<v Speaker 2>it's pushing these animals into these I don't know, pockets
<v Speaker 2>where they can hide, right, No, yeah, sure, I mean
<v Speaker 2>Canada is still wide open, but I'm thinking about the
<v Speaker 2>United States, and I've often thought that's why there's so
<v Speaker 2>many sightings is because there's ten times of population and
<v Speaker 2>area that's twenty five or thirty cents smaller than Canada.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, there's more people to see them around here.
<v Speaker 1>What there's more eyeballs down here in the lower forty A.
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's more sasquatch where you're at, but like
<v Speaker 1>you said, there's a lot more forest and less people
<v Speaker 1>to see the sasquatch.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean there's books written by world famous Like
<v Speaker 2>I read a book here not long ago. He was
<v Speaker 2>the guy who wrote this book here, written about this
<v Speaker 2>young guy that always wanted to move to Bella Coola
<v Speaker 2>who's from Los Angeles, and his dad would come up there.
<v Speaker 2>And it was the nineteen forties, and he was a
<v Speaker 2>short little guy who was about five feet tall. So
<v Speaker 2>he finally made his way up here and went out
<v Speaker 2>into the bush and built himself a log cabin inn.
<v Speaker 2>Over years he cleared all this lamb and made a
<v Speaker 2>big ranch and brought in the horses and cattle, and
<v Speaker 2>he married. He got himself what do you call that,
<v Speaker 2>a mail out bride from Wisconsin, and she flew out
<v Speaker 2>and he had to hike all away, like sixty eighty
<v Speaker 2>miles to the bush to get her and bring her
<v Speaker 2>back to his cabin. He got a was it a
<v Speaker 2>popular mechanics book one time when they had daughters that
<v Speaker 2>they were born to them, and him and his daughter
<v Speaker 2>built an airplane and he became a bush pie. An
<v Speaker 2>incredible true story. But this guy went to to write
<v Speaker 2>about him and want to meet him, and so he
<v Speaker 2>went up there. But he was from Britain and his
<v Speaker 2>job was he was a naturalist journalist guy, and he
<v Speaker 2>worked for the Crown for you know, Queen elizabeths and
<v Speaker 2>and all the expeditions they would go on, he would go.
<v Speaker 2>And so he had been everywhere in the Himalayas, Catman
<v Speaker 2>do U Nime, and he'd been all these wild places.
<v Speaker 2>What he said was this area in British Columbia. He said,
<v Speaker 2>I've been all over the world. And he said, there's
<v Speaker 2>nowhere on Earth that's this remote and this rugg it
<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the world, not even close. And he said
<v Speaker 2>there's many areas of thousands of a score miles all
<v Speaker 2>through these mountain areas that not even a Native Indian
<v Speaker 2>has been, that's how rugged this is.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe that for sure.
<v Speaker 1>The only other place that compares the Canada and Alaska
<v Speaker 1>is Russia. And like you used to, they used to connect.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was just in Skagway last year. I'd get
<v Speaker 2>a road trip up there to the Yukon and went
<v Speaker 2>in Skagway and then we went up to was it
<v Speaker 2>Haines Junction or whatever, into Haines and it I'd been
<v Speaker 2>when I was young. I for a while I lived
<v Speaker 2>like you've probably never heard of higher Alaska. But I
<v Speaker 2>lived on the on the very edge of the Panhandle, BC.
<v Speaker 2>And the kids from Alaska with the remote they went
<v Speaker 2>to our school and every and it was solid snow.
<v Speaker 2>It was like twenty thirty feet of snow all time,
<v Speaker 2>and avalanches and big mountains and you and we were
<v Speaker 2>right on the ocean there, and so every month the
<v Speaker 2>RCMP or the Canadian Mountains would go in there. And
<v Speaker 2>there's some trucks, ac cars, every gun around on snowmobiles.
<v Speaker 2>And then every second month the state troopers from Seattle
<v Speaker 2>would fly up and then they would come and they
<v Speaker 2>would you know, they would uh patrol Hyder Alaska and Stewart, BC.
<v Speaker 2>They're connect, they're excite each other. And then the RCMP
<v Speaker 2>would go into Alaska and patrol there and and Stewart
<v Speaker 2>and the kids would go to school they didn't have
<v Speaker 2>a school, and hider right and at the right at
<v Speaker 2>the border there any they could cross, and the border
<v Speaker 2>guy would just waving every because every knew each other.
<v Speaker 2>But his his border crossing building was an old stone
<v Speaker 2>building right on side a cliff with the ocean right there.
<v Speaker 2>And that building was built by the Russians. Right. But
<v Speaker 2>so I've been into a last a number of times,
<v Speaker 2>and the parks of Alaska's I've seen, and the Yukon
<v Speaker 2>and BC. It's it's all one thing. You can't tell
<v Speaker 2>it the part at all. It's it's all exactly the same.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, you got to make a trip up here,
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I'd love to visit the area sometime. And
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where to start, honestly, but I think
<v Speaker 1>Vancouver Vancouver Island be an act place to start.
<v Speaker 2>Oh it'd be. I mean, well, if he came up
<v Speaker 2>to Vancouver, then, like I said, I mean, you rent
<v Speaker 2>a car or if you're driving up here. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's only it takes about an hour to get to
<v Speaker 2>where I am, and she hate it is a very
<v Speaker 2>world famous place, is an Harrison and all that. I
<v Speaker 2>mean that's only another what thirty forty minutes from here,
<v Speaker 2>so like an hour and less than two hours from Vancouver, right, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and you know there's lots of towns along the way
<v Speaker 2>year in the Lower Mainland. I mean there's you know,
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like Vancouver is like, as a matter
<v Speaker 2>of fact, without if you put mountains in San Francisco,
<v Speaker 2>they call it the twins. They look exactly the same, actually,
<v Speaker 2>the two cities looking very very much light. But anyway, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know how long I've taken, probably three
<v Speaker 2>days or something to drive here, you know, I mean
<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred and eighty miles north of Seattle.
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, take a while, that's for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I used to drive to Miami from Vancouver. I
<v Speaker 2>think it would take me. What that's I'm talking like
<v Speaker 2>a big seventy foot truck with boats all over it
<v Speaker 2>and everything going through the mountains. But if I remember right,
<v Speaker 2>I think it took me about four and a half
<v Speaker 2>days to Florida. Wow. You know, but that's driving like
<v Speaker 2>thirteen hours a day. Right.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, You've seen some country.
<v Speaker 2>Been could be a tour guide in the United States
<v Speaker 2>and right across Canada. Anytime I've been to Mexico, That's
<v Speaker 2>about it. The only play other places I've been through Scotland,
<v Speaker 2>but I've had other encounters with things. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if you believe in prophecy or not. You're I assume
<v Speaker 2>you're a Christian or a believer, right, are you?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>I am, so, you know, you know, my Christian beginnings
<v Speaker 2>were I was Baptist, but my brother was. He started
<v Speaker 2>going to a Pentecostal church years ago and he got
<v Speaker 2>into the whole tongue talking thing, and I started going
<v Speaker 2>to churches like that, and it's pretty wild things that
<v Speaker 2>you see sometimes. But I've been around people that would
<v Speaker 2>prossy things like this. This a friend of mine that
<v Speaker 2>worked in New Guinea. I mean he's very very well
<v Speaker 2>like he's a well rugged old gentleman. But he worked
<v Speaker 2>all over the world at all, so he was he's
<v Speaker 2>a very very strong believer, you know, and has a
<v Speaker 2>wonderful Christian walk. But anyway, so years ago he prayed.
<v Speaker 2>We were walking out of the church one day and
<v Speaker 2>he's a good friend of mine, but he was a
<v Speaker 2>deacon at our church or the yeah, and my wife
<v Speaker 2>and I had four kids at the time, and he's like, Doug,
<v Speaker 2>before you go, he says, God, tell me to tell
<v Speaker 2>you he have another baby. It's going to be a
<v Speaker 2>little girl, and her name's going to be Ruth. Well
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the name Ruth. And he said she's
<v Speaker 2>going to be born on November seventh. And I'm telling
<v Speaker 2>you this so I can tell you something about another
<v Speaker 2>experience with the wilderness. And I said, Jake, I love you, man,
<v Speaker 2>and I believe you here God, but take a hike.
<v Speaker 2>We're not having more kids. But he was a couple
<v Speaker 2>of days later, we went to the doctor. We had
<v Speaker 2>the same doctor for all the babies in a well
<v Speaker 2>known baby doctor here in our area. He said, no,
<v Speaker 2>your wife, Laurie, she's going to have another baby, and
<v Speaker 2>it'll be in November somehow, somewhere anyways, November seventh, the
<v Speaker 2>very day he said, she was born a little girl,
<v Speaker 2>exactly what he said on November seventh, and he said
<v Speaker 2>she was going to be named Ruth. Well, my wife
<v Speaker 2>has always had this thing that I'm the guy, I'm
<v Speaker 2>the husband, the father, so I'm the one of us
<v Speaker 2>a year for God to name our children, right, So
<v Speaker 2>she always left it up to me. So I prayed
<v Speaker 2>and prayed and prayed, and I'm like, Lord, i owe
<v Speaker 2>one another name. And two weeks school by and my
<v Speaker 2>mom says to my sister Shawna, who's a school teacher,
<v Speaker 2>and they're not believers, and she goes, and they needed
<v Speaker 2>that baby, and the baby needs a name, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And Shawna didn't know anything about any of the stuff.
<v Speaker 2>And she says, well, it's been ringing my head for
<v Speaker 2>two weeks. They got to name the little girl Ruth.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was right on every count. Okay, So
<v Speaker 2>I'm prefacing this because six or eight months before I
<v Speaker 2>saw the Sasquatch, me and Nathan in the same area
<v Speaker 2>I was. I had a van that I was taking
<v Speaker 2>truck and I had a van, and I was taking
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of friends of mine from the coast, like
<v Speaker 2>the Vancouver area to a place called Colonna. And that's
<v Speaker 2>where Okanagan Lake is, and there's a world famous story
<v Speaker 2>about a sea serpent in that lake and thousands of
<v Speaker 2>people who claim that they've seen it in their footage
<v Speaker 2>and everything. There's more famous Mockedness Monster if you look
<v Speaker 2>it up, far more sightings, far more legit stuff. And
<v Speaker 2>so anyways, there was a lady in our in the
<v Speaker 2>van and we're going up to a big Christian thing
<v Speaker 2>that was on a native land in a place called Kamloops,
<v Speaker 2>and it was about a three or four hour drive
<v Speaker 2>and had go up through the Cocohalla, same area to
<v Speaker 2>get up there, and and I lived in Cologna at
<v Speaker 2>the time, but I had come down to get them
<v Speaker 2>to take them back up because nobody wants to drive
<v Speaker 2>up and we're a bunch of friends, and well split
<v Speaker 2>the gas when he had head it. So we're driving
<v Speaker 2>along and there's there's six or eight people in the
<v Speaker 2>van and Maureen, this lady friend of mine, she starts
<v Speaker 2>prophtying over me and prophesies that I'm going to see
<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatch and I'm gonna see the Olopolo and this
<v Speaker 2>is God's honest truth. Very near to where we saw
<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatch. This is six months after she said that
<v Speaker 2>in the van. We were right driving through that area
<v Speaker 2>when she said that, and it was like six months
<v Speaker 2>later where we actually saw the thing, almost exact same
<v Speaker 2>marion and within five or six months of that. No,
<v Speaker 2>it was the next year because it was in the summer,
<v Speaker 2>and when we saw the Sasquatch it was it was
<v Speaker 2>a spring. But it was about a year later. Nathan's mother,
<v Speaker 2>my sister and I we were driving down this secondary
<v Speaker 2>road in Cologna, and Colonna is a big well, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it looks like part of California. It's all the same
<v Speaker 2>desert and there's there's great you know, grape fields, wineries
<v Speaker 2>and everything everywhere. It looks like after like you think
<v Speaker 2>you're in California because you know, there's cactus and everything else,
<v Speaker 2>you know, scorpions and it's a big renown there and
<v Speaker 2>people come there all summer to go to the lakes.
<v Speaker 2>It's a huge, amazing lake, and we had moved up
<v Speaker 2>there and we were living right down by the lake.
<v Speaker 2>And anyway, was my sister and I. We we were driving.
<v Speaker 2>It was a Saturday afternoon in midsummer, and there's boats
<v Speaker 2>and skiers and swimmers out on the lake. We're about
<v Speaker 2>three hundred feet above the lake coming down this hill
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of traffic going down to the
<v Speaker 2>lake because the Colonna is a pretty big area. And
<v Speaker 2>my sister's driving the car right and you know, I'm
<v Speaker 2>just looking out the other way, and she'd drive it
<v Speaker 2>along and she jams the brakes on with all these
<v Speaker 2>cars behind her. She pulls over a little Honda and
<v Speaker 2>she can't catch your breath and she's slapping on me
<v Speaker 2>in the arm. I said what, and she yells luck.
<v Speaker 2>And I turned to the left, you know, past the
<v Speaker 2>steering rolling down the embankment, there was all these great
<v Speaker 2>what do they call it? Vineyards, right, and they're sweeping
<v Speaker 2>down the side of this, you know, very deserty thing
<v Speaker 2>going down to the lake there and we're seeing literally
<v Speaker 2>in a place called Green Bay, which is a Christian
<v Speaker 2>Bible camp on the lake right there. And this thing
<v Speaker 2>had to have been seventy or eighty feet long. Its
<v Speaker 2>boats going by, and like I said, he's to all boats.
<v Speaker 2>So I know boats pretty well, and sun runners and
<v Speaker 2>all these things you know, and tobns you name it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know a lot of these boats and
<v Speaker 2>how big most of them are a lot of the
<v Speaker 2>ones that they're water skiing with for like you know,
<v Speaker 2>sixteen to twenty feet depending, and so I mean these
<v Speaker 2>people are skiaming by about lake. When you go down there,
<v Speaker 2>it's very very beautiful water, but it has a very
<v Speaker 2>dark color to it. Right, So the way we're sitting,
<v Speaker 2>the sunlight hit the lake in such a way that
<v Speaker 2>you could see the light going very deep into the water,
<v Speaker 2>but not very far. And so if you're down at
<v Speaker 2>the lake, the water is so dark you can't look
<v Speaker 2>into it very deep. But on this angle, the sunlight
<v Speaker 2>was just doing its thing and you could see probably
<v Speaker 2>ten fifteen feet into the water, which isn't a lot,
<v Speaker 2>but this is a dark, dark water lake. But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>and as clear as a bell because of the light
<v Speaker 2>hitting that, both of us for literally ten minutes, a
<v Speaker 2>good ten minutes, we're watching what the only thing I
<v Speaker 2>could call it is a police seasaurus. It's got a
<v Speaker 2>neck that's longer than this body. The body is oval
<v Speaker 2>and it literally has you know, fins or not fins,
<v Speaker 2>but flippers on the front. And the body papers to
<v Speaker 2>a narrower point where it has a short tail and
<v Speaker 2>flippers on the back. But the neck is undulating. Me
<v Speaker 2>it goes up and down, up and down, and the
<v Speaker 2>head is on a downward, downward motion, downward thing. And
<v Speaker 2>as it went along it was it looked like a
<v Speaker 2>cow grazing in the field. Had that sort of an attitude.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, we're sitting there watching this thing for ten minutes,
<v Speaker 2>like freaking out. And it's huge, and and people will
<v Speaker 2>say a lot of times it has been fouls and reports,
<v Speaker 2>Well it looked like an upside down boat. Well, if
<v Speaker 2>you saw the back of that thing come up, you'd
<v Speaker 2>see see, yeah, that's exactly what it looks like. And
<v Speaker 2>many people say, oh, no, no, no, it's it's a
<v Speaker 2>huge snake. Well that's the neck and head. It looks
<v Speaker 2>like that. And so there was a guy, oh, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I think he was a couple of miles
<v Speaker 2>down the road on the on the water on uh
<v Speaker 2>they rented jet skis out and he happened that day.
<v Speaker 2>He was actually on Good Morning America the next day
<v Speaker 2>and another American news TV show, and because he had
<v Speaker 2>footage and he brought his camera, he had a camcord
<v Speaker 2>and he filmed it, like the same thing we were
<v Speaker 2>looking at. He filmed it and somehow, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>these things are known to come up and go back down.
<v Speaker 2>And he said the year before, on the exact same
<v Speaker 2>date he had, he had brought his camera for some
<v Speaker 2>reason and filmed it then. So he thought, oh, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe I'll get lucky, and it happened. So
<v Speaker 2>he he'd actually filmed that. But we saw that, and
<v Speaker 2>I had one more experience with that too. But uh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this this British Columbia. There's a guy by the name
<v Speaker 2>I'll end it with this guy by the name of
<v Speaker 2>uh what's his name? Oh now, I can't think his name.
<v Speaker 2>He wrote a book called Denizens of the Deep and
<v Speaker 2>he's very famous. He was from He was a white
<v Speaker 2>guy that had lived in Hong Kong for years and
<v Speaker 2>years and I think he was half white, half Chinese
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. And I know his name, but anyways,
<v Speaker 2>he was he wanted to move somewhere. He was so
<v Speaker 2>into cryptids. He wanted to move to somewhere in the
<v Speaker 2>world where he could spend his life, you know, filming
<v Speaker 2>and documenting this. And he said, well, British Columbia's got
<v Speaker 2>all these stories. We've got another thing. I've never seen it,
<v Speaker 2>but Cadbore Sourus is this other wild thing that's out
<v Speaker 2>in the ocean here. And he'd studied all this and
<v Speaker 2>he said, well BC has got more of this than
<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the world, right And he actually, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if you remember Unsolved Mysteries. It was done with
<v Speaker 2>Leonard Nimoy, the guy that was doctor Spotts spot not
<v Speaker 2>doctor spock spot On on Star Trek, and so he
<v Speaker 2>he did, you know, he was the guy that did
<v Speaker 2>the you know, Unsolved Mysteries and he had come to
<v Speaker 2>even look it up on YouTube and watch it. But
<v Speaker 2>he came to Okanagan. There's been many things on the
<v Speaker 2>thing's called the Ogo Bolo and he did all this research.
<v Speaker 2>He was this John guy that I'm talking about. He
<v Speaker 2>did something nobody else had ever done. He got all
<v Speaker 2>these volunteers, I don't know how many, maybe one hundred
<v Speaker 2>and two hundred people to camp around the edge of
<v Speaker 2>this lake and this lake is sixty miles long and
<v Speaker 2>four or five miles wide, so to camp like every
<v Speaker 2>couple of miles with binoculars and cameras, and they got
<v Speaker 2>tons of footage and film and everything else of this
<v Speaker 2>thing because they spent a month day and night doing
<v Speaker 2>nothing but watching that lake. It just goes on and
<v Speaker 2>on and on. But yeah, for what you do, man,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, seriously, you know, put a couple of bucks
<v Speaker 2>together and you should get up here. Seriously.
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, absolutely, I'd love to do that. And yeah, Doug,
<v Speaker 1>you did an excellent job at explaining what you've encountered
<v Speaker 1>up there in Canada and it was really cool to
<v Speaker 1>hear your encounters personally.
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much for the opportunity. So what
<v Speaker 2>have you got a blog or something or what?
<v Speaker 1>I got a YouTube channel called Sasquatch Theory. It's a
<v Speaker 1>podcast I do in person interviews and also do research out.
<v Speaker 3>In the woods.
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I might have seen you on that. I
<v Speaker 2>watch a lot of sasquatch stuff. Yeah, that sounds familiar
<v Speaker 2>to me.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've probably seen it before on YouTube.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, because I watched tens of that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But wow, So when do I get to hear myself.
<v Speaker 1>It should be up in the near future. I can
<v Speaker 1>send you a text message with the link. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>if you don't see it up for a while, don't
<v Speaker 1>get discouraged. It just takes me a while to get
<v Speaker 1>through all the reports for sure.
<v Speaker 2>For sure. Oh wow, that's very very cool. All right.
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you. I hope you get feeling better too.
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Oh, there's a crazy flu that's been
<v Speaker 2>going on. I've had a a month. It's crazy.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, keep me in your prayer. Was very good talking
<v Speaker 2>to you, bless you.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, it was good talking with you as well.
<v Speaker 1>You take care of yourself, okay.
<v Speaker 2>All right, God bluss.
<v Speaker 1>Doug's experiences on Vancouver Island are a powerful reminder of
<v Speaker 1>just how much of the wilderness remains unexplored, and how
<v Speaker 1>quickly a normal day can turn into something unforgettable. Seeing
<v Speaker 1>a nine foot sasquatch on the roadside, discovering massive footprints
<v Speaker 1>deep in the back country, and witnessing a creature watching
<v Speaker 1>silently from the river bank are moments that stay with
<v Speaker 1>you for life. Doug and Nathan didn't go looking for this,
<v Speaker 1>It found them. I found it interesting when Doug said
<v Speaker 1>so many people have seen these things in Canada and
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty common up there. It's not the same way
<v Speaker 1>over here in Missouri. Like you're a weirdo if you've
<v Speaker 1>seen bigfoot and not too many people believe you, and
<v Speaker 1>people demand proof, and it's common for people to say,
<v Speaker 1>show me a picture, show me hair, show me tracks,
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you. There's never been any evidence found,
<v Speaker 1>and people are just screaming out that they are unaware
<v Speaker 1>that people have discovered these things already. Bigfoot's already been discovered.
<v Speaker 1>There's been so many people that have seen them. There's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of video clips, a lot of tracks that
<v Speaker 1>have been shown to the public, hair samples, And when
<v Speaker 1>people say there's no evidence, they are just telling me
<v Speaker 1>that they don't know anything about the subject. And that's
<v Speaker 1>okay because we're not being told the truth about sasquatch,
<v Speaker 1>so why should people know. But there are people out
<v Speaker 1>there who have seen these things face to face, and
<v Speaker 1>once you do, there's no going back.
<v Speaker 3>If you have a.
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot or crypted encounter that you would like to share
<v Speaker 1>with me here on Sasquatch theory, feel free to get
<v Speaker 1>in touch with me sometime at sasquatch theory at outlook
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