Jujutsu Kaisen & Cortex Chaos | Lex Lang (Jujutsu Kaisen, Star Wars: Resistance, Crash Bandicoot)
This week on Toon’d In!, Jim Cummings welcomes acclaimed voice actor Lex Lang! Known for his standout performances as Dr. Neo Cortex in Crash Bandicoot, memorable roles in Jujutsu Kaisen, and appearances in Star Wars: Resistance, Lex Lang has become one of the most versatile and recognizable voices across animation, anime, and gaming. With a career spanning fan-favorite video game franchises, hit animated series, and major dubbing projects, he continues to bring charisma, intensity, and unforgettable personality to every performance.
In this engaging and wide-ranging episode, Lex shares his journey into voice acting—from his early days pursuing performance to landing roles in some of the biggest franchises in entertainment. He reflects on crafting the manic brilliance of Dr. Neo Cortex, adapting his skills for anime productions like Jujutsu Kaisen, and stepping into the galaxy of Star Wars: Resistance. Lex also discusses collaborating with directors and fellow actors, the importance of vocal flexibility, and what it takes to create characters that resonate with audiences worldwide.
Jim and Lex dive deep into the craft of voice acting, exploring character instincts, comedic timing, and the techniques behind memorable vocal performances. They talk about the evolution of gaming and anime voice work, the enduring popularity of franchises like Crash Bandicoot and Star Wars, and how voice actors connect with generations of fans through iconic roles. The conversation also highlights behind-the-scenes stories, personal insights, memorable recording sessions, and the creative passion that has defined Lex’s remarkable career.
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In this engaging and wide-ranging episode, Lex shares his journey into voice acting—from his early days pursuing performance to landing roles in some of the biggest franchises in entertainment. He reflects on crafting the manic brilliance of Dr. Neo Cortex, adapting his skills for anime productions like Jujutsu Kaisen, and stepping into the galaxy of Star Wars: Resistance. Lex also discusses collaborating with directors and fellow actors, the importance of vocal flexibility, and what it takes to create characters that resonate with audiences worldwide.
Jim and Lex dive deep into the craft of voice acting, exploring character instincts, comedic timing, and the techniques behind memorable vocal performances. They talk about the evolution of gaming and anime voice work, the enduring popularity of franchises like Crash Bandicoot and Star Wars, and how voice actors connect with generations of fans through iconic roles. The conversation also highlights behind-the-scenes stories, personal insights, memorable recording sessions, and the creative passion that has defined Lex’s remarkable career.
🎙️✨ Ever wondered what it takes to voice unforgettable characters in Crash Bandicoot, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Star Wars: Resistance? Settle in and get Toon’d In! for a fun, behind-the-scenes conversation about voice acting, character creation, and a career built on bringing legendary worlds to life.
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2026-05-09
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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, Jim Cummings here. Welcome to my podcast, tuned <v Speaker 1>In with Jim Cummings. We have a great guest for <v Speaker 1>you today, but before we get to that, make sure <v Speaker 1>you like and subscribe. Our podcast has partnered with the <v Speaker 1>largest comic con in North America, fan Expo, the Juggernaut. <v Speaker 1>We're touring all over North America live, so get your <v Speaker 1>tickets and come be a part of the live audience. <v Speaker 1>It'll be fun. Go to FANEXPOHQ dot com for the tickets. <v Speaker 1>We'll see you in a city near you or a <v Speaker 1>little bit away, but you can drive. And with all <v Speaker 1>that said and done, sit back and enjoy today's episode <v Speaker 1>and as always, thanks for tuning in to Tuned In <v Speaker 1>with Jim Cummings. If you're a fan of everything we <v Speaker 1>do here at tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could <v Speaker 1>support the show on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as <v Speaker 1>well as early in ad free access to the show itself, <v Speaker 1>prize draw and more. You'll feel the difference, so go <v Speaker 1>ahead and join the tuned In family today at Patreon <v Speaker 1>dot com slash Jim Cummings Podcast. Do it now? How <v Speaker 1>you doing out there? It's me Tigger I am DC <v Speaker 1>Wayne Duck. It's me Bunker's Deep Bobcat. <v Speaker 2>All right, y'all, is it rate your favorite firefly you desire? <v Speaker 1>Hold the old knock guy. My name is Jim Cummings <v Speaker 1>and welcome to tuned In. <v Speaker 3>Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with <v Speaker 3>Jim Commings. I'm producer Chris, joined as always by the <v Speaker 3>legend himself, mister Jim Cummings. <v Speaker 1>How are you doing today, sir, Well, yet another day <v Speaker 1>in paradise and here we are. <v Speaker 3>Yes it is, Yes, it is. We have a very <v Speaker 3>special guest for you today, none other than Lex Lang. <v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for being here. <v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, my pleasure really, And now you know I have. <v Speaker 1>To get this out of my system right off of <v Speaker 1>you are. Your name is literally a combination of two <v Speaker 1>fantastic stick characters from the DC universe where your parents, no, <v Speaker 1>not at all, like. <v Speaker 4>Lex Luthor and Lana Lang right right there together together <v Speaker 4>at last. No, they were not. In fact, Lex comes <v Speaker 4>from my middle name, which is alexis Oh, and so <v Speaker 4>I went by Walter for a long time. That's my <v Speaker 4>first name. But literally every single time I would meet someone, <v Speaker 4>like until I was like twenty years old, no joke. <v Speaker 4>Every time they would do a little doggy head tilt, <v Speaker 4>they'd go, you, you don't look like a Walter, and <v Speaker 4>so I always said, well, now you know what they <v Speaker 4>look like, and I'd shake their hands. <v Speaker 1>No, that's true. You really don't know. No, no, no, <v Speaker 1>my head just did that. <v Speaker 4>It's an automatic thing. So eventually I went by Alexis <v Speaker 4>and then all I heard was well, that's a girl's <v Speaker 4>name too, right, or are you Greek? And I said no, no. <v Speaker 4>And then another voice actor I got, named Richard Epkar, <v Speaker 4>real nice guy, amazing voice actor. We were going somewhere <v Speaker 4>and he said Lex, come on, let's go, and I <v Speaker 4>was like lex lex lang. Like the alliteration. It has <v Speaker 4>that superhero DC vibe going a little bit. And I <v Speaker 4>didn't have to change it other than what was my <v Speaker 4>real name, you know, So I just. <v Speaker 1>Chopped take away my real name, right, No, that's yeah. <v Speaker 4>So I got to keep the middle name and just <v Speaker 4>like chopped it around a little and it. <v Speaker 1>Fit perfectice well, good stuff, Yeah, Trivia four years the name, yeah, exactly. <v Speaker 4>I don't tell that often because people go Walter and <v Speaker 4>they do the head till, and you. <v Speaker 3>Changed it before your acting career before your voice over. <v Speaker 1>Now, I started. <v Speaker 4>When I first started voice acting, I was still going <v Speaker 4>by Walter okay, and it was not until about a <v Speaker 4>year or two that I changed it to Alexis and <v Speaker 4>then from Alexis over the lex happened rather quickly. <v Speaker 1>Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. When was your career started? <v Speaker 4>I started voice acting in nineteen ninety four, yeah, ninety <v Speaker 4>four veteran. Then oh yeah, thirty one years this year. <v Speaker 4>That's all I've done for thirty Well, I've directed to <v Speaker 4>but but you know it's in terms of income and <v Speaker 4>like you know, what I should for a living has <v Speaker 4>been a voice act thirty one years now, you know. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been stuck here too. <v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you know it's you're one of the greatest, <v Speaker 4>you know, and and it's true, it's true. <v Speaker 1>I know you're very humble about it. <v Speaker 4>But you know, I know that when I started coming <v Speaker 4>onto Curious George of you know, I played the doorman <v Speaker 4>and his dog, Hundley. I'm Curious George, Yes you did. <v Speaker 4>I've been doing that, you know. I think seventeen years <v Speaker 4>ago is when I started that one. And I know <v Speaker 4>that when I'd show up to a session to me <v Speaker 4>it would be I'd be pinching myself because it would <v Speaker 4>be like a master class with all these amazing people, <v Speaker 4>you know, Frank Welker. I mean, it would just be like, <v Speaker 4>I mean, Jeff can do anything. He's incredible, you know, <v Speaker 4>and we know Romano is, you know, a great narrator, <v Speaker 4>and of course you being there all the time. <v Speaker 1>It was just like I was. <v Speaker 4>Like, Wow, how did I get in here? So I <v Speaker 4>slipped in the door, you know. And Frank was always <v Speaker 4>super nice at the end of every session, just like saying, <v Speaker 4>you know, you did a fantastic job. Wow, what you're <v Speaker 4>doing with that character is great, you know, just always <v Speaker 4>like supportive and lifting, you know, and I think, oh, yeah, <v Speaker 4>that really helped me in my career a lot, just like, yeah, <v Speaker 4>gain confidence about the roles I was doing things well. <v Speaker 1>The voiceover actors are, we're all kind of supportive, right, <v Speaker 1>you know. It's not a yeah, it's it's not a <v Speaker 1>dog eat dog. I've said it before you Occasionally they'll <v Speaker 1>have a voiceover audition at a place where they do <v Speaker 1>on camera and there'll be like four insurancemen, six insurancemen, <v Speaker 1>all sitting there with their cases or attorneys and they're <v Speaker 1>all looking at each other like this, and the voiceover guys, dude, you. <v Speaker 4>Know, it's like a family. Really. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a big family. <v Speaker 4>It's getting bigger, but it's yeah, it's a nice family, <v Speaker 4>especially that core group that's been here for decades. <v Speaker 1>You foold them again, you know, that's kind of and. <v Speaker 3>It's getting even bigger with the inclusion of things, you know, <v Speaker 3>like video games and I know, narration and just so <v Speaker 3>many different avenues. <v Speaker 4>I know, I know when I started, there was no <v Speaker 4>voices in video games because the computer chips didn't have <v Speaker 4>enough memory. There was just like some mid e file <v Speaker 4>that was a you know, audio a song or something. <v Speaker 4>And then there was no anime yet when I started, <v Speaker 4>and it was just they called it. When it first <v Speaker 4>came out, they were calling it japanimation. <v Speaker 1>Yes, I really remember that. Yeah, I was just thinking <v Speaker 1>that they call it animation. <v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah. <v Speaker 1>But when I first started, they were calling bit that <v Speaker 1>was pong, right, that was that was the basactly. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was loving Pong when I was like, yeah, <v Speaker 4>just dating myself, don't miss it. Yeah yeah yeah. And <v Speaker 4>even even animation didn't have a ton of like that <v Speaker 4>long form animation that we do today. <v Speaker 3>You know, it was yeah, yeah, not really story driven back. <v Speaker 4>No, No, there wasn't like you know, the Family Guys <v Speaker 4>and the all the other long form talkie stuff that <v Speaker 4>developed as well. <v Speaker 1>Thank god for talkies, right, we'd be we'd we'd be hurting. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>I always joke around. I said, well, I didn't want <v Speaker 1>to be a voice actor. I'm just a failed mime. <v Speaker 4>You know. <v Speaker 1>It's so hey my first. <v Speaker 4>Your first set of things that you did as a <v Speaker 4>voice actor, was it Disney related? <v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, it was Disney that was It was I <v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe the one of the first five shows <v Speaker 1>on the Disney Channel. This new thing called cable TV <v Speaker 1>popped up, right, and because we had four channels, surely <v Speaker 1>that was enough before. But no, it was Disney Channel <v Speaker 1>just started up and it was Dumbo Circus. Oh, and <v Speaker 1>it was people in costume and it was basically it <v Speaker 1>was the movie Dumbo continued, Wow, and Katie Lee was Dumbo, <v Speaker 1>and Will Ryan was in it, and and how Smith <v Speaker 1>was in it the Great House Smith, God rest their souls. <v Speaker 1>But I was Lion, all the Lion, and it was <v Speaker 1>basically Timothy the Mouse. But since it was a person <v Speaker 1>in a costume, they could even have like a five <v Speaker 1>foot mouse, you know, so he was a lion. It <v Speaker 1>was a lion, I got you, But it was the <v Speaker 1>character Timothy. That's nice some bos I love that. I <v Speaker 1>love that. <v Speaker 4>And they were all doing it on stage, you know, <v Speaker 4>trying to their costumes, right. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. Things have <v Speaker 1>changed since then. <v Speaker 4>They sure have. Yeah. My wife, Sandy Fox, who's also <v Speaker 4>a voice actress, when she was starting out, she was <v Speaker 4>also involved with the show I think it was on <v Speaker 4>McDonald's farm, kind of show where she played a chicken. <v Speaker 4>She wasn't in the soup, but she was the voice <v Speaker 4>of a little chicken in a window, you know, kind <v Speaker 4>of thing, which was they were. <v Speaker 1>Doing a lot of those times. <v Speaker 3>So yeah, wow, how about you. Where was your start? <v Speaker 3>Bring us through the history of wax slang. <v Speaker 4>Wow, Well, it's it's kind of interesting because I started <v Speaker 4>as a stage actor many many, many years ago, and <v Speaker 4>a lot of us did. Yeah. Yeah, I did that <v Speaker 4>through high school and college and then a little bit afterwards, <v Speaker 4>and I just got I just felt inclined to do <v Speaker 4>stand up comedy at one point, and so I started <v Speaker 4>touring doing stand up comedy. <v Speaker 1>In the West. Something funny that sounds like the ten <v Speaker 1>pm crowd. I've had a little too much to drink, yeah, exactly. <v Speaker 4>But I did that for a while, and you know, <v Speaker 4>I was opening for back then. You know, there were <v Speaker 4>names like Richard Belzer was he's an on camera actor <v Speaker 4>he was, yeah, you know, and I opened for Jim <v Speaker 4>Carrey from Marshall Warfield. I worked every week with David <v Speaker 4>Spade in Arizona at this place called Anderson's Fifth Es State, <v Speaker 4>every Tuesday night. For a couple of years we worked together, <v Speaker 4>and then one week he was gone, and the next <v Speaker 4>week he was like writing for Saturday Night Live, And <v Speaker 4>six months later he was on Saturday Night Live, and <v Speaker 4>his careers you know, exploded ever since, right. But I <v Speaker 4>did that for a little bit, and then it was <v Speaker 4>at the end of like a phase in my life <v Speaker 4>where I was engaged and I had like a really <v Speaker 4>bad breakup and I lost my job and I was <v Speaker 4>literally like trying to find some direction. And I met <v Speaker 4>a person who was going to the Musicians Institute in Hollywood, California, <v Speaker 4>and I just started playing guitar and this person came <v Speaker 4>into a place I was working. I was working in <v Speaker 4>a mall. I was working at this place called Superstar recording, <v Speaker 4>which is basically a glorified Kerrie Oke place where you <v Speaker 4>come in, you sing, and they hand you. At the time, <v Speaker 4>it was a cassette tape, but they moved to CDs later. <v Speaker 4>You know, the handrew your track of you singing and <v Speaker 4>you go on your way. <v Speaker 1>Right, Well, that's kind of cool. <v Speaker 4>But this guy came in and he sang some songs <v Speaker 4>and we hit it off and he said, man, you <v Speaker 4>play guitar, right, we should jam. So I jammed with <v Speaker 4>him a couple of times, and then he said, I'm <v Speaker 4>going to LA in four weeks and you got to <v Speaker 4>come out. You got to go to the Musicians Institute <v Speaker 4>with me. And I said, well, I really. <v Speaker 1>Don't have the money. <v Speaker 4>I don't have a job, and you know, I was <v Speaker 4>like really finding a new path because I had really <v Speaker 4>everything had just sort. <v Speaker 1>Of dissolved in my world. <v Speaker 4>And he said, look, put together a little tape. Maybe <v Speaker 4>you can get a grant and a scholarship. If you <v Speaker 4>get both of those combined, they will have you out there. <v Speaker 4>So I put together a tape a little video thing too, <v Speaker 4>which then was much harder to do, right, But they <v Speaker 4>wrote me back and said you got the grant and <v Speaker 4>you got the scholarship, so I said, California, here we come. <v Speaker 1>That's like the Muppet movie when Orson Wells gave Kermit, <v Speaker 1>here's the rich and famous contract, right. <v Speaker 4>Almost almost, but it was more like, here's the struggling <v Speaker 4>musician contract. Okay, but anyway, it was kind of it <v Speaker 4>was kind of neat because I came out there and <v Speaker 4>I kind of instantly became the spokesman for the school, <v Speaker 4>the Musicians Institute. So when someone would inquire about the <v Speaker 4>school and the program, there was a video they'd receive <v Speaker 4>or a DVD that was me standing in front of <v Speaker 4>the Hollywood sign saying Hollywood, California, the entertainment capital of <v Speaker 4>the world. And here in Hollywood is the Musicians and Institute. <v Speaker 4>Let's go take a look, you know, And so I <v Speaker 4>tore them around the thing. Right, So fast forward a <v Speaker 4>little bit six months, a director from a film that <v Speaker 4>was being done called the school and said, I needed <v Speaker 4>you to send somebody over to show my actors to <v Speaker 4>how they how to look like they play music, because <v Speaker 4>all of the actors had never picked up a guitar before. <v Speaker 1>How looked like they played There's a and there's a. <v Speaker 4>Movie about a band, you know, a band is the <v Speaker 4>central thing in this movie. And so they sent me <v Speaker 4>over and I was showing them how to like jump <v Speaker 4>off the riser and do wind mills and you know, <v Speaker 4>Pete Towns this stuff. And the director goes, you wouldn't <v Speaker 4>happen to be an actor, too, would you. I said, <v Speaker 4>as a matter of fact, that's really what I am. <v Speaker 4>And he said, okay, you're in the movie, you know. <v Speaker 4>And the guy I was helping was like, wait what <v Speaker 4>you know? He goes, You're gonna be the keyboard player instead. Okay, <v Speaker 4>you can look like you can play keyboards, and so <v Speaker 4>he kept all his lines and scenes and everything, but <v Speaker 4>they added some scenes. Fast forward again. The guy who <v Speaker 4>was the bass player in the band in the movie <v Speaker 4>became my dear friend, and he was he is actually <v Speaker 4>Robert Mitcham's grandson. Uh oh, a real well known actor <v Speaker 4>in the forties and fifties, a guy named Robert Mitcham, <v Speaker 4>of course, of course, and his grandson, Bentley, became my <v Speaker 4>dearest friend and roommate. <v Speaker 1>We were living in Ley Bentley Mitcham. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's a fantastic actor, really nice person, great songwriter too, <v Speaker 4>And we roomed and he went and did a film <v Speaker 4>in Vancouver, this film called Susie Q. <v Speaker 1>I grew up in Vancouver. <v Speaker 4>You did, Oh nice, It's a beautiful city I got. <v Speaker 4>So he called me and said, hey, I'm doing this movie. <v Speaker 4>Come on up. And so I went up to visit <v Speaker 4>him for a week. And the girl that was playing <v Speaker 4>opposite him in the movie was a woman named Amy <v Speaker 4>Joe Johnson, and she's the Pink Power Ranger of course, <v Speaker 4>and so she was at the time. And so as <v Speaker 4>we were coming back from dinner one night, I started <v Speaker 4>doing my stand up comedy thing and it had impressions <v Speaker 4>in it, like I would do Sean Connery and Jack <v Speaker 4>Nicholson and Christopher Walk and. <v Speaker 1>Do you ever do them anymore? Yeah? <v Speaker 4>You know. I when I first started doing voice acting, <v Speaker 4>I wasn't an impersonator, but I was a voice match specialist. <v Speaker 4>And so I took my card out to all the <v Speaker 4>studios and gave them a card that said voice match specialist, <v Speaker 4>if your celebrity can't come in for the third session <v Speaker 4>or whatever, that's yeah and stuff. So rewind a little <v Speaker 4>tiny bit. When Amy heard me doing these impressions, she goes, <v Speaker 4>you'd be a great voice actor. And at the time <v Speaker 4>I was like, I have no idea what a voice <v Speaker 4>actor is. There's no voices on the cartoons I watch. <v Speaker 4>There's no there was no anime, no video games, so <v Speaker 4>it was like nothing to reference. She goes, no, No. <v Speaker 4>On Power Rangers, there's always some guy in a suit <v Speaker 4>that is a villain of the week or whatever. He <v Speaker 4>needs a voice. And I said, I'd be open for that. <v Speaker 4>So she introduced me to the producers there and they <v Speaker 4>ran me through the ringer a little bit and said <v Speaker 4>you got skills, kid, come on, you know, And so <v Speaker 4>they they brought me on and I did like three <v Speaker 4>different seasons with Power Rangers. And at the same time <v Speaker 4>is when I reached out to all the studios. It <v Speaker 4>was around that time I met my wife, Sandy, Sandy <v Speaker 4>Fox my wife, and she helped. She was with ICM <v Speaker 4>already and she helped me get an agent. I was <v Speaker 4>with ICM for a little bit and then I kind <v Speaker 4>of moved around a little, but she helped me with <v Speaker 4>the demo, the agent and all that. And back then <v Speaker 4>you probably recall, yeah, uh, we had pagers. <v Speaker 1>We didn't nobody had a set right yoh gosha. <v Speaker 4>Everybody had a page to pull off the. <v Speaker 1>Freeway and find something called a payphone booth. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a payphone. You actually had to carry <v Speaker 4>change and way back. You know, this is a yeah, <v Speaker 4>this is a long time I can. <v Speaker 1>Get through out there going what what's that phone? <v Speaker 4>Superman would change? <v Speaker 1>It was gonna say that. Yeah, yeah, it was change <v Speaker 1>go figure. Yeah. Occasionally you'd see a little scrap of <v Speaker 1>red cape. <v Speaker 3>On the got caught in the door on the Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. <v Speaker 4>So that's kind of my origin. And then I was <v Speaker 4>blessed to It's funny this guy Bentley again. He invited <v Speaker 4>me to a wedding. And while I was at the wedding, <v Speaker 4>the table I was sitting at was this woman named <v Speaker 4>Andrea Romano and I met her at a way now <v Speaker 4>her Yeah, and I hadn't really we didn't talk about <v Speaker 4>voice acting. I was there at the wedding with Bentley <v Speaker 4>to do some music and we were both going to <v Speaker 4>play some songs for the wedding. And but here I <v Speaker 4>was sitting next to her and we talked for I <v Speaker 4>don't know, we hit it off. She's a wonderful woman. <v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we just hit it off. We talked for <v Speaker 4>you know, probably a couple of hours, and said stay <v Speaker 4>in touch, you know. And I never asked her what <v Speaker 4>she did for a living, because it was just more <v Speaker 4>about the good conversation we were having there. And a <v Speaker 4>few years later, maybe a two years later, I got <v Speaker 4>an audition from Susan Chico, who was her right hand assistant. <v Speaker 1>I don't even know. <v Speaker 4>I wouldn't even call it an assistant, just her right <v Speaker 4>hand executive. I don't know what you'd call Susan, but <v Speaker 4>just someone who was doing a lot of work there <v Speaker 4>together with Andrea. And oh yeah, that's the official title <v Speaker 4>that's on her business card. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I do all the crap noo else does, <v Speaker 1>thank you. <v Speaker 4>But she was a big part of the casting. And <v Speaker 4>I had auditioned for a few things and I was <v Speaker 4>cast and when I got to the session, Andrea was like, <v Speaker 4>wait a minute from the what I know? That's fantastic. <v Speaker 4>And Andrea really got in my corner thereafter, and she'd <v Speaker 4>bring me in all the time for all her shows <v Speaker 4>as a utility player, and I'd come in, I do <v Speaker 4>you know two voices for Captain Cold, you know something <v Speaker 4>for heat Wave? You know Atomic Skull has a voice, <v Speaker 4>you know. So I would do a lot of little <v Speaker 4>bit parts for her, but she kept me on the Batman, <v Speaker 4>Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Legion to Superheroes. You know. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well that was Avaitar. <v Speaker 4>That was amazing. <v Speaker 1>It was great. <v Speaker 4>It was so good. Wow, So I owe her a lot. <v Speaker 1>You hit the ground running. <v Speaker 4>I hit the ground running, and right at that same point, <v Speaker 4>anime started and I was right at the front door <v Speaker 4>for that as well. And I did a lot of <v Speaker 4>like really famous anime. But it was before in California, <v Speaker 4>in California, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I was living in <v Speaker 4>California from nineteen eighty eight. <v Speaker 1>I think I moved. I remember hearing that almost all <v Speaker 1>anime back in the day was in Dallas or somewhere. <v Speaker 4>It was split between Los Angeles and Dallas. Yeah, there <v Speaker 4>was a Fundamation was the company that was out in Dallas, <v Speaker 4>and they got bought by Crunchy Roll and Country Roll. <v Speaker 4>I think I bought by Sony. I believe that's the paramount, right, Yeah, <v Speaker 4>they're pushing it hard now. <v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, no kidding. Well, that's a hell of an intro. <v Speaker 4>I know. I was really lucky because it just so <v Speaker 4>happened that as video games were introducing more dialogue and <v Speaker 4>as anime was happening and as Western animation was happening, <v Speaker 4>I kind of had a foot in the hand in <v Speaker 4>every pool, you know, and it was growing, growing, growing, <v Speaker 4>And for a while it was all segregated, like if <v Speaker 4>you were interested in anime, it would be you got <v Speaker 4>to go to an anime convention, if it was a <v Speaker 4>sci fi sci fi convention, and pop culture just kept <v Speaker 4>coming together with all these things together, and now it's <v Speaker 4>just like any kind of con. It could be an <v Speaker 4>anime con, but you're going to find superheroes, you're going <v Speaker 4>to find video games. You know. They call them comic <v Speaker 4>cons now of course. <v Speaker 1>You know, yes, and apparently you can get comics there. <v Speaker 4>Yes, you can get comics. Yeah, like the original comic cons, <v Speaker 4>like San Diego Comic Con. <v Speaker 3>That's it was all about that, all right, Yeah yeah yeah. <v Speaker 3>We were just at a mega con Orlando last weekend. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 3>And it's such a conglomeration. I mean you look at <v Speaker 3>all the actors and voice actors and everything. It's like, <v Speaker 3>how do they even fit into this sphere? You know, <v Speaker 3>they have the Lord of the Rings cast, you know, <v Speaker 3>they have anime. They have Heather Graham, which I was <v Speaker 3>I couldn't believe she oh she was just there to <v Speaker 3>look good. I couldn't believe. I stopped by her booth <v Speaker 3>and I was like just staring. I was like, oh <v Speaker 3>my god, I had to look up how old she is? <v Speaker 3>Fifty six and she looks stunning. Yeah, she looks incredible, <v Speaker 3>Like yeah, like mid thirties, forty Max. That's amazing. I <v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, where's the where's the babies? <v Speaker 1>Yeah? <v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah yeah. And San Diego, you know, yeah, like <v Speaker 4>the big cons, Mega Con, San Diego, Comic Con, those <v Speaker 4>giant comic cons. That's like a list movie actors, you know, yeah, <v Speaker 4>casts from all the greatest movies. <v Speaker 3>That you know was there. What does wrestling have to <v Speaker 3>do with. <v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, wrestling too, that's been introduced into that sector. <v Speaker 1>I just noticed he was a a superhero in his <v Speaker 1>last movie. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, and mister T was there. Yes, Yes, that's been funny. <v Speaker 4>He adorned with his chains and everything. <v Speaker 3>He was adorned in the American flag. Yes, very the <v Speaker 3>American flag had been the American flag pants all the <v Speaker 3>way down to the cuffs. <v Speaker 1>And he was still the same guy. Get over here. <v Speaker 1>I love it. How Wino. <v Speaker 4>Did he put you in the head off? <v Speaker 1>Yes? Take away from the pool. Yes, oh, my god. <v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's such a such a crazy world. <v Speaker 1>Now. <v Speaker 3>It's like, if you're not collaborating or crossing over, you know, <v Speaker 3>are you really like doing anything as a business? <v Speaker 1>You know, it's almost like you have to. <v Speaker 3>I mean I have I have underwear that's Lacost collabed <v Speaker 3>with Netflix. <v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, and it's amazing. Yeah. <v Speaker 3>I was like, I literally just bought them because I <v Speaker 3>was like, Lacst and Netflix have a collaboration on underwear. <v Speaker 1>The world is this Netflix. <v Speaker 3>Does excuse me? <v Speaker 1>I have to drink some water right now? <v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, me too? Some h oh wow. <v Speaker 3>And this is clever. <v Speaker 4>This is yes h two om hm. Taste water, best <v Speaker 4>tasting water. <v Speaker 1>In the world, best tasting water on this particular planet. <v Speaker 4>It's true, Yes, on our planet. It may be the <v Speaker 4>best tasting on a few other planets too. Yes h <v Speaker 4>to them. My wife, I'll just say, I'll just call <v Speaker 4>her Sandy because I've said her name a few times <v Speaker 4>ready today. But Sandy and I started the company. We <v Speaker 4>thought about it for the first time in two thousand <v Speaker 4>and four. But we opened our doors in on Valentine's <v Speaker 4>Day of two thousand and six, and we have just <v Speaker 4>been going strong ever since. You can get it online. <v Speaker 4>All you go to is H two omwater dot com <v Speaker 4>and you can get love water and peace water and <v Speaker 4>multi intention water that has love, peace, joy, gratitude, prosperity, <v Speaker 4>and well that's awesome. <v Speaker 1>That's not bad. Yeah, it's nice. It's pretty good combo. <v Speaker 4>Yeah. We call it water with Intension, and one of <v Speaker 4>our slogans is think it while you drink it. And <v Speaker 4>you know, they found that for our own mental health. <v Speaker 4>If you start your day with something positive in your <v Speaker 4>thoughts that cascades outward in your day and even like <v Speaker 4>you kind of hold the vibration of that positivity and <v Speaker 4>good things gravitate towards you, or you notice the things <v Speaker 4>that are good in life as opposed to waking up <v Speaker 4>and complaining or being fearful or whatever. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I had years ago. I had a place <v Speaker 1>in Missouri washband Devil's wash Man, which is a great name, <v Speaker 1>but I had to test it to see if I <v Speaker 1>could bottle it well there and it well an incredible spring. <v Speaker 1>It literally shot out the side of a hillside in <v Speaker 1>a moment. It was, I mean, and it had three <v Speaker 1>lakes on it which came from that water. And because <v Speaker 1>it was in the Ozarks. I thought it would be good. <v Speaker 1>Good to be called H two Ozarks. That's fun. And <v Speaker 1>the slogan was we've been making water since forever. <v Speaker 4>So you know, did you ever do that? Did you <v Speaker 4>ever do it? Or no? No? <v Speaker 5>No. <v Speaker 1>I ended up selling the place, but I'm friends with <v Speaker 1>the owner. I don't know, maybe, and the water itself <v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, it was good water. <v Speaker 4>Yeah. <v Speaker 1>I had a test and the guy said, well, I <v Speaker 1>don't know. If you want to sell this there, you <v Speaker 1>got to do some work first. And I said, oh god, <v Speaker 1>like what He goes, I'd put it in them little <v Speaker 1>plastic bottles. I go, oh, that's it. He goes, that's <v Speaker 1>about it. <v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that's easy. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was thinking of doing that. <v Speaker 4>Anyway, I'd build a giant facility and humongous filtration system. <v Speaker 1>Yeah no, yeah, so that worked. <v Speaker 3>I want to switch the topics really quick, because I've <v Speaker 3>heard you on other podcasts and to me, your voice <v Speaker 3>matching ability is incredible, amazing. <v Speaker 1>Where did you. <v Speaker 3>Find that talent of being able to sound like shoot <v Speaker 3>almost anybody? <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting because it was more of a <v Speaker 4>joke that I did as a child, when I was <v Speaker 4>in seventh and eighth grade. I found that I could <v Speaker 4>sound just like my science teacher, Oh there you go, <v Speaker 4>and so often, and in fact it he liked me <v Speaker 4>for it and I got in trouble for it at <v Speaker 4>the same time. Right, But often during the test, we'd <v Speaker 4>be taking a test and I'd go pencils down, and <v Speaker 4>then everyone would put their pencils down, and he'd look <v Speaker 4>up from his and he wondered what was going on, <v Speaker 4>And then I'd be just like writing, you know, and <v Speaker 4>then everyone leave the class, you know, like people would <v Speaker 4>start getting you know, and eventually, you know, he he <v Speaker 4>caught on, and yeah, more or less. But later when <v Speaker 4>I started doing the stand up comedy stuff, I was <v Speaker 4>a big fan of rich Little, who nobody knows nowadays. <v Speaker 4>He was an impersonator and he was really good. He <v Speaker 4>was fantastic, and I was a real big fan of <v Speaker 4>that even as a young person, like really young, thirteen, fourteen, <v Speaker 4>fifteen years old, and I would see him on the <v Speaker 4>Johnny Carson Show. And so Johnny Carson, for those of <v Speaker 4>you who are out there, that made us know who <v Speaker 4>that is. He was the not the original, but the <v Speaker 4>second longtime host still the Tonight Show and Jay Leno <v Speaker 4>took over for him after that, and then Jimmy Fallon <v Speaker 4>took took over after that. But I would watch Johnny <v Speaker 4>Carson and as a kid, I'd be in my room <v Speaker 4>just trying to listening tonight on the show. You know, <v Speaker 4>I didn't know this, but Simmson and I'd be like <v Speaker 4>imitating him. And then i'd be doing my own show <v Speaker 4>on a little cassette recorder. I'd be Johnny Carson, and <v Speaker 4>then i'd be Johnny Carson interviewing Jack Nicholson. You know, <v Speaker 4>you know that noise when you hear that noise, Johnny, <v Speaker 4>you know, And I'd be doing that. I'd be going <v Speaker 4>back and. <v Speaker 1>Forth and then yeah, and you got to do the face. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, well you have to kind of become the characters <v Speaker 4>were doing an impression, especially right and then, because I <v Speaker 4>had done so many impressions over the years, when I <v Speaker 4>finally became a voice actor, that's when I thought, you <v Speaker 4>know what, it is an ability that I have that <v Speaker 4>not everybody has, So maybe I can reach out and <v Speaker 4>find some work, you know. And and I did like <v Speaker 4>a lot of stuff for William Hurt. You know, William <v Speaker 4>Hurt has that voice that's kind of in here and <v Speaker 4>it's uh, he's got that very quality to it. <v Speaker 1>You know, that's right, it's right there. And yeah, I <v Speaker 1>love those kind of obscure ones. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, <v Speaker 1>that's wonderful. <v Speaker 4>It's funny because there was a remake of the film <v Speaker 4>Lost in Space. <v Speaker 1>Yes it was. <v Speaker 4>William Hurt was in it, Matt LeBlanc from Friends and <v Speaker 4>a few others movie unfortunately, yes, but it was. It <v Speaker 4>was a remake and I auditioned to revoice thirteen lines <v Speaker 4>of William Hurt and I was like, great. I auditioned. <v Speaker 4>I know, it was many thirty or forty people. I got <v Speaker 4>the part. I came in and I was doing the <v Speaker 4>first few and they said, oh, we're going to have <v Speaker 4>another session tomorrow. And I came in for the session <v Speaker 4>the second day and they said, there's a little hiccup <v Speaker 4>in the whole plan that we have here. William Hurt <v Speaker 4>has decided to go to an ashram in the Himalayas <v Speaker 4>and he's off the grid for the next sixteen weeks. <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so you're perfect. <v Speaker 4>You're going to be replacing him for everything we were <v Speaker 4>going to have him do. So I was like, how <v Speaker 4>much is that? And they said thirty eight lines, and <v Speaker 4>about six or seven of them are on camera. We're <v Speaker 4>just replacing because of the generator in the background, replacing, right, <v Speaker 4>So I did that and it came out great. I <v Speaker 4>was so lucky. I was really happy because sometimes as <v Speaker 4>a voice sound alike guy, you know, my voice changes <v Speaker 4>day by day. Some days I have the lower pitch <v Speaker 4>in the morning that's really very strong. Other days, you know, <v Speaker 4>it's kind of I have an airy quality to my voice. <v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's great for like a Charlie Sheen, you know, <v Speaker 4>all right, we're going to get the angels over here, <v Speaker 4>are you going to go hang out? You know, like <v Speaker 4>it's that lighter stuff, right, And so it all worked <v Speaker 4>perfectly for the William Hurt thing. And then while I <v Speaker 4>was there on the last session, they said, now Gary <v Speaker 4>Oldman is playing the doctor Smith and he turns into <v Speaker 4>a creature at the end of the film, like a <v Speaker 4>spider creature, and he did some of his efforts, but <v Speaker 4>we really want to enhance the efforts, right, and so <v Speaker 4>they said, can you do a few for him? So <v Speaker 4>I did all the creature stuff at the end of <v Speaker 4>the film. And then they said, oh, there's a guy <v Speaker 4>at the beginning of the movie who is a traffic <v Speaker 4>like a controller for the lift off of the spaceship <v Speaker 4>they're in. And he has this scene where he's telling <v Speaker 4>Matt LeBlanc a good luck, old friend or whatever. Right, <v Speaker 4>but this actor who was playing this guy chose to <v Speaker 4>do it in a Russian accent, and the director said <v Speaker 4>okay to him because the actor said, well, by the <v Speaker 4>time we have this kind of space travel, Russia and <v Speaker 4>the US are going to be pals. You know, it'll <v Speaker 4>be like a Russian guy working in the US thing. Well, yeah, <v Speaker 4>it's been a long time, still waiting, and so he said, <v Speaker 4>we need to revoice that guy. <v Speaker 3>He'll still be on I yeah, you. <v Speaker 4>Know, good look old friend, Irish space program. Yeah, but <v Speaker 4>he said, you know, just generic American whatever. So it <v Speaker 4>was funny because by the end of it, I did <v Speaker 4>a bunch of radio commercials that were on the in <v Speaker 4>the movie. I did the Gary Oldman stuff. I did <v Speaker 4>a line for Robot, I did William Hurt, I did <v Speaker 4>the guy at the beginning, and we had a joke <v Speaker 4>we called it lex and space instead of. <v Speaker 1>Space, no kidding, So that's nice. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, And then I went on to do like lots <v Speaker 4>and lots of other stuff, probably two or three hundred <v Speaker 4>other sound alikes. And sound alikes are a lot different <v Speaker 4>than an impersonation, you know it. There's a guy named <v Speaker 4>Matt Friend out there who's on social media who does <v Speaker 4>all the impersonations of everybody. He's fantastic, And that's an impersonator, <v Speaker 4>you know. A sound alike is. So it's a much <v Speaker 4>more specialized type of work because what I have to <v Speaker 4>do is I have to sound just like the performance <v Speaker 4>that that particular actor is giving. <v Speaker 1>I don't have to sound like so like them in character. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have to sound like them in the character. <v Speaker 4>So you know, if it's if it's John Travolta or something, <v Speaker 4>I'm not going to do a judge, you know, like <v Speaker 4>all that John Right, he's got a Southern accent in <v Speaker 4>this movie, and he's talking very normal, you know. So <v Speaker 4>I have to listen and be able to go okay. <v Speaker 4>And another thing that's challenging about it is that often <v Speaker 4>those sound alike roles are there's a there's a the <v Speaker 4>actual actor saying something, and then there's the plug in <v Speaker 4>of that sound alike, and then there's the actual actor <v Speaker 4>saying it right after again. And so I have to <v Speaker 4>throw a line in between the actual actor. So if <v Speaker 4>it's not exact, it's really have to blend. You have <v Speaker 4>to really blend and be you know, convincing. And so <v Speaker 4>that's the big difference technically between a sound alike and <v Speaker 4>an impersonator. Wow. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know you <v Speaker 1>had this great, you know, side career. I mean in <v Speaker 1>and of itself. <v Speaker 4>For a long time, probably for three or four years, <v Speaker 4>that was almost my main career. It was just going <v Speaker 4>from studio to studio. It does sound alike. <v Speaker 3>Do you think do you think that your musical background, <v Speaker 3>I know you grew up playing violin and the French <v Speaker 3>horn or guitar, I know, do you think that that <v Speaker 3>musicality helps you? <v Speaker 1>Absolutely? <v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, hear the voice and what's going on in. <v Speaker 4>The voice because I developed my ear we call it right, <v Speaker 4>you know, like I have a good ear for listening. <v Speaker 3>To tone, texture, pitch. <v Speaker 4>You know, these are all things that play into the <v Speaker 4>finals things. <v Speaker 1>People have their own rhythm, the rhythm exactly. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, the rhythm. You know, I was trying to teach <v Speaker 4>somebody the other day to I've done it before, but <v Speaker 4>to do like a Sean conriy. You know, you go like, well, <v Speaker 4>where does his voice sit? Is there a lot of air? <v Speaker 4>Is there a lot of air going through? And I <v Speaker 4>feel on the air. No, for Sean Conry, it's almost <v Speaker 4>like these glottal stops, which is it's like very little <v Speaker 4>air happening right. So uh, and where's the pitch? It's <v Speaker 4>it's low, right, So if I talk like this, it <v Speaker 4>doesn't sound like Sean Conry at all. So then you go, Okay, <v Speaker 4>what's his music? Oh, since it might be a little <v Speaker 4>bit of music happening right, And then you go, does <v Speaker 4>he have any speech impediments or anything? <v Speaker 1>Well, for Sean Conry, his teeth, I don't know. <v Speaker 4>Whatever shes The s are all shs right, Yes, that's right. <v Speaker 4>And then then he's. <v Speaker 3>Got the accent, a Scottish accent. Yes, show show. <v Speaker 4>You start adding those things together and you say, yes, <v Speaker 4>hello that listen. You're planning for world domination at ov Jack, <v Speaker 4>you know, and like that's great. <v Speaker 1>You start like, you know, and it doesn't help hurt <v Speaker 1>to have that cheek. <v Speaker 4>Poppy court my keith a looche, you know, So that's awesome. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>So whenever I do that, I break it down into <v Speaker 4>a lot of pieces and then try to put. <v Speaker 3>All of them back together, and how long does that <v Speaker 3>usually take you? Like, when you hear a voice like <v Speaker 3>my voice, how long would it take you to recreate? <v Speaker 4>It would probably take me, you know, sometimes as fast, <v Speaker 4>but most of the time, I really have to break <v Speaker 4>it apart and hear where I'm hearing the placement and everything. <v Speaker 4>So maybe half an hour, you know, but I'd have to. <v Speaker 3>Listen to it a long time. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know. Wow. And I'm not always exactly I'm <v Speaker 4>always very good about letting my agent know and I <v Speaker 4>don't because we get these voice matched auditions often, right, <v Speaker 4>and if it's not really one hundred percent dead on, <v Speaker 4>I don't want to submit because I don't want to. <v Speaker 1>Like boy, I agree, you know. <v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, every voice you'd be the T <v Speaker 3>one thousand right, right, Glad you got that? <v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, And I'm okay with saying, you know what, <v Speaker 4>I'm not a dead match for this. <v Speaker 1>You know. <v Speaker 4>There was a Danny Avito thing that came in just <v Speaker 4>a couple of days ago as an audition. It was <v Speaker 4>a sound alike for Danny DeVito, and I gave it <v Speaker 4>a try. I listened and I tried, and I just <v Speaker 4>didn't sound like Danny DeVito. I sounded like, I don't know, <v Speaker 4>some New York Cabby or something. By the end of <v Speaker 4>it might be close. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Wow, that's amazing. Well, speaking of Danny DeVito, I was <v Speaker 1>singing Danny DeVito and Hercules. So you did You're my <v Speaker 1>one Last hope? Pushing that depends on you. <v Speaker 4>I'm going to send you this audition that I got <v Speaker 4>a couple of days for you to do that. <v Speaker 1>Danny DeVito. Yeah, sound. <v Speaker 3>So how did you go about finding his voice? <v Speaker 1>I listened to him doing the first part of the <v Speaker 1>song and it really it was it was a voice match, obviously, <v Speaker 1>but it was They call it sweetening. And that's when <v Speaker 1>you like with Jeremy Irons and Lion King, I just <v Speaker 1>sang the song, yeah, and he wasn't in it. He <v Speaker 1>did the talking and then I did singing. But Danny <v Speaker 1>was not bad throughout most of the song. So what <v Speaker 1>you do is you get the music and you listen. <v Speaker 1>You listen, and because it's never he's never going to <v Speaker 1>be right on every note, so they just have you <v Speaker 1>do the whole song and then like You're my one <v Speaker 1>last hope. Whoops, Okay, you are my one last hope. <v Speaker 1>That was me and they'll they'll go I've seen them <v Speaker 1>do it, and it's literally the clunker's coming up, pulled <v Speaker 1>him down, pulled jim up, and we're back to day. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know. <v Speaker 1>And it's interesting physically that they physically it wouldn't go <v Speaker 1>like that. <v Speaker 3>So they're like piecing together both performances. <v Speaker 1>And yeah, both the performances to end up on key <v Speaker 1>and yeah, yeah interesting. Yeah, it was a kind of <v Speaker 1>a cool process. <v Speaker 4>And they do that a lot with sound alike. Like <v Speaker 4>I said, they'll be a line before and a line <v Speaker 4>after and we got to plug in that centerpiece. Yeah, yeah, <v Speaker 4>and that happens often. That's fascinating. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an interesting and I and I always whenever <v Speaker 1>I have had to do that, I like it. The <v Speaker 1>more character in the voice the better because it's like <v Speaker 1>the last thing you want to do is I don't know, <v Speaker 1>you know, imitate not Jay Lenno, I don't know, Jimmy <v Speaker 1>Fallon or something just doesn't have anything that distinct about <v Speaker 1>his voice, right, you know, it's like the last thing <v Speaker 1>you want. Give me somebody weird, you know, so you <v Speaker 1>can hang your head'b me some character. Yeah, yeah, that's <v Speaker 1>the way. But that's not not not as much of <v Speaker 1>that going on as they used to be. I think, <v Speaker 1>I don't know, if I don't know, I don't know why, <v Speaker 1>but just maybe actors are getting better at being themselves, <v Speaker 1>who knows. <v Speaker 4>And I think there's so many more actors in this pool. Yeah, <v Speaker 4>you know, like when we started, when you started, you <v Speaker 4>werehead of me by decade or so, right, And then <v Speaker 4>when I started, there was still a small group. I <v Speaker 4>would say, like, you know, all the voice actors, maybe <v Speaker 4>two hundred of us, you know, it seemed like, And <v Speaker 4>now I'd say it's in the thousands of voice actors. <v Speaker 3>Voice actors at one convention now, right, right, exactly. <v Speaker 4>Some of those those signing conventions, nostalgic cons and stuff, <v Speaker 4>those are there's a couple hundred people there, you know. <v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's just a tenth of the pie, right, <v Speaker 4>So yeah. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. If you're a fan of everything we do <v Speaker 1>here at tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support <v Speaker 1>the show on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well <v Speaker 1>as early in ad free access to the show itself, <v Speaker 1>prize drawings, and more. You'll feel the difference, So go <v Speaker 1>ahead and join the tuned In family today. At Patreon <v Speaker 1>dot com slash Jim Cummings podcast Do It Now. Do <v Speaker 1>you do a lot of conventions? <v Speaker 4>You know, I have been over the last few years. <v Speaker 4>I've done them over the last twenty years, maybe five <v Speaker 4>or ten a year, maybe, but over the last three years, <v Speaker 4>I've been doing a lot of them. There's an anime <v Speaker 4>show that I'm on called Jiu Jitsu Kaisen. We traded. <v Speaker 4>We traded those lines, but it's a phenomenon. It was voted, <v Speaker 4>not voted, it was. It won the Guinness Book of <v Speaker 4>World Records for twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four <v Speaker 4>as the most watched television show on Earth. <v Speaker 1>That's insane. <v Speaker 4>Wow, insane, And I played one of wonderful main characters <v Speaker 4>and two of them main character that's great. Yeah, And <v Speaker 4>so the the the call for me to be at <v Speaker 4>these conventions has increased quite sure. So I'm taking advantage <v Speaker 4>of it. I'm riding the wave while there's waves to <v Speaker 4>be ridden. <v Speaker 1>You know. <v Speaker 3>Wow, that is amazing, so cool. One of your one <v Speaker 3>of my favorite roles that you played was doctor Neo Kortex. <v Speaker 1>Oh yes, Doctor. <v Speaker 3>He's a fun character, such a fun character. And you <v Speaker 3>worked with Jess Harnell right. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, just played Crash Bandicoot for a long time. There's <v Speaker 4>a new guy that's doing it just the last couple <v Speaker 4>of things. His name is Scott White. He's also a <v Speaker 4>voice actor. Real good guy. But yeah, gosh, it's been <v Speaker 4>twenty two years of that character. <v Speaker 1>Wow. <v Speaker 3>So so the games I was playing as a child. <v Speaker 1>Literally were you? <v Speaker 4>That was it? <v Speaker 3>That's it exactly. Wow, such great memories. <v Speaker 1>Good for you. <v Speaker 4>I used to really fight when someone would say, oh, <v Speaker 4>you're part of my childhood. I would like, I'm not <v Speaker 4>old enough to be your childhood yet, you know, but <v Speaker 4>now enough, and now it's like a multi generational thing. <v Speaker 4>It's like a part of your child's childhood. I was <v Speaker 4>part of your childhood. <v Speaker 3>And your mom and dad's childhood. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it took me a while to get used to <v Speaker 1>there's a guy like my age. No, I wasn't a <v Speaker 1>part of your childhood. Plan that was That was sterling <v Speaker 1>all the way. Yes, you know, but then the kids <v Speaker 1>will be sitting there and yeah, I guess you're right. <v Speaker 1>I guess I was. Yeah, but I'll take it. <v Speaker 4>I will too. <v Speaker 1>I you know. <v Speaker 4>That's one of the things at conventions that is really <v Speaker 4>satisfying to me is the connection between the people who <v Speaker 4>come up, take the time to wait in a line <v Speaker 4>and then come up and tell me what the character <v Speaker 4>that I've played and the show that I was in <v Speaker 4>meant to them. That's right, it's amazing. <v Speaker 3>It's like, what would you say the most popular characters <v Speaker 3>that you get asked about? <v Speaker 4>Are it varies? You know, I've done about six hundred <v Speaker 4>characters in thirty one years. I saw your credits. I <v Speaker 4>was just kept scrolling and scrolling, the scrolling fifth of them. <v Speaker 4>That often people come to see me for doctor Doom. <v Speaker 4>I've done in a few things, Batman and a few things. <v Speaker 1>Was going to give us some Doctor Doom because Doctor <v Speaker 1>Doom's he's like the villain. <v Speaker 4>It's amazing, right, So he's it. He has a slight <v Speaker 4>lot of very an accent, and so he's like, you <v Speaker 4>are no match for Doom. He's just very sinister, right, <v Speaker 4>you will have no idea what you're dealing with. It's <v Speaker 4>just very simple, but very like you know, because he's <v Speaker 4>a sorcerer. He's incredibly intelligent. Yes, you know, he's got <v Speaker 4>all these powers and skills and he's really not afraid <v Speaker 4>of anyone. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's as smart as read Richard's easily. Easily, so easily. <v Speaker 3>You see like a surgeon popularity with like Avengers Doomsday <v Speaker 3>coming out a little bit. <v Speaker 4>You know, I think does that carry over? It does <v Speaker 4>a little bit. Yeah, I think that. What I've noticed <v Speaker 4>is some people think that Robert Downey Jr. Is going <v Speaker 4>to just be cast as Doctor Doom in this standalone <v Speaker 4>Doctor Doom thing. And then there's a bunch of people <v Speaker 4>who are very much into the comic books who said <v Speaker 4>that there's a whole series of comics. I think it's <v Speaker 4>three volumes where Doctor Doom goes back in time and <v Speaker 4>takes over Tony Stark. So I believe that that would <v Speaker 4>be the smart way for them to go because I <v Speaker 4>have a hard time peeling away Tony Stark in an <v Speaker 4>Avengers film making him doctor Doom. You know, like when <v Speaker 4>they said he was cast is that, I was like, what, Yeah, <v Speaker 4>that doesn't. But when these comic book guys were like, no, no, no, <v Speaker 4>he goes back in time takes over Tony Stark, I'm like, well, <v Speaker 4>I hope that's the one they're doing. It makes more sense. <v Speaker 3>Let's sing like either that or like the multiverse. You know, <v Speaker 3>you can pretty much do anything with the multi verse. Yeah, <v Speaker 3>like all right, that's infinite possibilities. <v Speaker 4>But still the cast the same guy and two different <v Speaker 4>multiverses as two different characters. <v Speaker 1>But it's downy June. We all love you, We all <v Speaker 1>love j right, Yeah, I gotta love that guy. <v Speaker 4>It was funny speaking of Doctor Doom when I was <v Speaker 4>working on Avengers Earth's Mighty as Heroes, which is the <v Speaker 4>Doctor Doom really. I mean I worked on a couple <v Speaker 4>of video games also, and you know, Marvel Heroes and <v Speaker 4>things as Doctor Doom. But when I was when I <v Speaker 4>was doing the part, stan Lee was in the building <v Speaker 4>and he had stepped in just to watch what I <v Speaker 4>was doing for a couple of minutes, and then he <v Speaker 4>stepped out and I didn't even realize it was him <v Speaker 4>until after the session. I was walking out and he <v Speaker 4>was walking out, and I was like, that's Stanley. Yeah, <v Speaker 4>oh my god, can I get it? Yeah, I'm playing <v Speaker 4>Doctor Doom in there. And he's like, I know it, <v Speaker 4>you know, he sounds like this guy. And I was like, yeah, <v Speaker 4>can I get a quick picture with you? And I <v Speaker 4>was like great, And I took a picture and the <v Speaker 4>left and I didn't even introduce myself, like as my name, <v Speaker 4>I'm just playing doctor. So a few years later at. <v Speaker 1>Comic con, it's like meeting Mount Rushmore. <v Speaker 4>Right, right. <v Speaker 3>Oh. <v Speaker 4>A few years later I saw him at a comic con. <v Speaker 4>It was a wizard World, I think, and he has <v Speaker 4>his setup where he's got his table in the front <v Speaker 4>and then there's the curtain behind, and behind that he <v Speaker 4>makes like a lounge where he's got a he's got <v Speaker 4>a couch. <v Speaker 1>It's kind of like this. <v Speaker 4>He's got a real comptable space. He had this giant well <v Speaker 4>what is it like an ice chest more or less, <v Speaker 4>this giant ice bind that had all these orange crush <v Speaker 4>in it, right drank. He loved orange crush. So I <v Speaker 4>popped my head back there and I said, mister Lee, <v Speaker 4>I met you a few years ago, and he goes, yes, <v Speaker 4>I remember, you know, like this is a terrible Stanley voice, right, <v Speaker 4>But I was like, I play Doctor Doom and Avengers <v Speaker 4>Earth's Mightiest heroes and he goes, y're my favorite. Oh, <v Speaker 4>And I was like, you know, I just melted under <v Speaker 4>the floor. That was right. It was like I can't <v Speaker 4>believe it. And even if he says that to everyone <v Speaker 4>like that was still great. I got one of those guys. <v Speaker 4>He said it too, right, and so from that point <v Speaker 4>on I was like, oh man, my life is complete <v Speaker 4>with doom, no kidding. Yeah. So he was super sweet, <v Speaker 4>and Sandy came back there, and of course you can't <v Speaker 4>help but love Sandy when you see her, and she <v Speaker 4>he was like enough of you, you. <v Speaker 1>Know, yeah this woman? <v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, I totally loved her so much. And we <v Speaker 4>talked with him for about ten minutes and he was <v Speaker 4>super sweet, really down to earth, you know. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. I met him when we did comic book the <v Speaker 1>movie Mark Hamill's Oh yeah, Magnum Opus, and he was <v Speaker 1>just so cool. I mean, he was stan Lee. <v Speaker 4>Yeah. So I bought a guitar at an auction that <v Speaker 4>he had signed, and so I have that as one <v Speaker 4>of my prized guitars. And he's just he was just <v Speaker 4>such a nice man. And interestingly enough, he passed away <v Speaker 4>on my birthday, oh you know, which is another connection <v Speaker 4>to so not a happy coincidence, but still it was like, <v Speaker 4>you know what, I can always remember when he passed <v Speaker 4>away because it happened on my birthday. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>So, man, did you always know that you were going <v Speaker 1>to do this? <v Speaker 4>I wasn't. I was going to do acting Yeah, voice acting. <v Speaker 4>Like I said, it was, I had no idea when <v Speaker 4>it was introduced to me that what a voice actor was. <v Speaker 1>But I really loved it. <v Speaker 4>You know, once I got my feet wet, I thought, <v Speaker 4>you know what, here's something I can really get behind <v Speaker 4>because as a voice actor, we get to do things <v Speaker 4>that we would never be cast on camera. <v Speaker 1>You know, well you're not kidding, you know, like ever, Yeah, <v Speaker 1>I mean that's all I don't do any normal person <v Speaker 1>that couldn't be on camera. I'm all bears and critters <v Speaker 1>and all. Yeah, weasels and tiggers and things like that. <v Speaker 4>Great. Yeah, it's amazing. And like I said, you you know, <v Speaker 4>I know I'm kind of playing it cool right now, <v Speaker 4>but You've always been like a big inspiration for me. <v Speaker 4>Oh well thanks, Like I've just looked up to your <v Speaker 4>talent for for decades. And so, like I said when <v Speaker 4>I was in the room, when we're recording together, I'm <v Speaker 4>just like, life is great, you know, to be to <v Speaker 4>be working in a pure situation like that, it's just uh, <v Speaker 4>I call my mom my Mom's my mom will be <v Speaker 4>one hundred and two this this April. Wow, and blessed, yeah, <v Speaker 4>I God, bless her and after sessions, I call her <v Speaker 4>and I'm just like, I got to work with the <v Speaker 4>greatest people today. And oh yeah, Frank, And don't you know, <v Speaker 4>don't discount yourself. You are right in there with that incredible, <v Speaker 4>you know, legendary status as a voice. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's all one, one role at a time, I say, <v Speaker 4>you know, because people are God, you did so many roles. Well, <v Speaker 4>I just did one of a time to go. How <v Speaker 4>do you keep them all separate in your mind? I'm like, <v Speaker 4>I don't have to. Yeah, yeah, I show up to <v Speaker 4>the session. If it's something I've done before, they played <v Speaker 4>me what I did last time. Yeah, so yeah, it's <v Speaker 4>easy that way. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>And it's nice because, like if I had to play <v Speaker 4>like a super old guy who can barely walk, I <v Speaker 4>can play that guy, and I can play his teenage grandson. <v Speaker 4>Come on, grandpa, you know whatever. You know, I don't <v Speaker 4>go too young because some people, you know, try to <v Speaker 4>stretch down to twelve. I don't. <v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, yeah, I can't do that. <v Speaker 4>I'll be the kid in high school after his voice <v Speaker 4>changes a little. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe while it's cracking. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Oh man, yeah, incredible, amazing. <v Speaker 3>That's great. Well, should we do some voice swaps? <v Speaker 1>Are you aware of this game at a little thing <v Speaker 1>that we do. <v Speaker 3>A game on this podcast? If you're willing, I'll explain <v Speaker 3>it right now. Yes, okay, So the voice swaps are <v Speaker 3>it's pretty simple game. So we'll start out. We'll start <v Speaker 3>out with Jim. He'll say a line of one of <v Speaker 3>his iconic characters, you know, let's say Winnie the Poot, like, oh, <v Speaker 3>stay sweet as honey. <v Speaker 1>Okay. <v Speaker 3>He'll do it in obviously Pooh's voice, and then you'll <v Speaker 3>repeat that line, but in one of your say doctor <v Speaker 3>Neo Cortex or Victor von Doom, et cetera. And then <v Speaker 3>we'll make a question back and forth a couple of times. Okay, <v Speaker 3>how's that sound? That sounds fun? <v Speaker 1>All right, let's see so okay, how about dark Wing? <v Speaker 1>Dark how about dark Wing? How about dark Wing? Here's <v Speaker 1>your line as dark Wing, and you have to repeat <v Speaker 1>it as your character. <v Speaker 4>Okay, the Cortex, I am the terror that flaps in <v Speaker 4>the night. Oh yes, I am the terror that flaps <v Speaker 4>in the night. <v Speaker 1>What is wrong with that picture? That's right with it? <v Speaker 4>Crystals? <v Speaker 1>Okay, now you give me one of you. <v Speaker 4>Okay, And okay, how about I'll do Victor von Doom, okay. <v Speaker 4>And it's this very simple line that is Doom does <v Speaker 4>not surrender, and who can you do as. <v Speaker 1>That Pooh does not surrender. Had to be poo. It <v Speaker 1>had to be poo, It had to be pooh. Use <v Speaker 1>for the next Kingdom Hearts? <v Speaker 4>Do you tell people when they when they're when they're <v Speaker 4>wearing a shirt with poo? <v Speaker 1>You have poo on your shirt? You ever said? I? <v Speaker 1>Actually I probably have. Yeah, okay, And then then I <v Speaker 1>think it's really funny and they go, yeah, yeah, never mind. <v Speaker 3>One of my favorite stories Jim tells is with Jess <v Speaker 3>Harnell back in the day and they're going out and <v Speaker 3>Jess would go over to you some some girls whatever <v Speaker 3>and say, hey, you know, you know my buddy over <v Speaker 3>there is Winnie the Pooh and uh, you know, introduce <v Speaker 3>them that way, get. <v Speaker 4>The get the numbers or whatever. <v Speaker 3>Jess calls them poo pooh Hafner Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh and and there's I don't know if <v Speaker 1>this will make it, if I should do this, but <v Speaker 1>he has a concept that that he would watch because <v Speaker 1>I always whispered in their ear because you know, if <v Speaker 1>you see me, it kind of ruins it, so I <v Speaker 1>whispered my friend Jes like sure, sweetish honey, and there <v Speaker 1>I go. And then if they go, that's a really <v Speaker 1>good sign. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes yeah like that. Okay, <v Speaker 1>of course he's married now, but that's great. We'll just <v Speaker 1>thank god we didn't record that. Oops. If you're a <v Speaker 1>fan of everything we do here at tuned In with <v Speaker 1>Jim Cummings, you could support the show on Patreon for <v Speaker 1>bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early in ad free <v Speaker 1>access to the show itself, prize drawings, and more. You'll <v Speaker 1>feel the difference, so go ahead and join the tuned <v Speaker 1>In family today at patreon dot com slash Jim Cummings Podcast. <v Speaker 3>Do it now, what's the next voice we should do? <v Speaker 3>Let's let's think of one. Will you start it off <v Speaker 3>this time? <v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, what's one? Really? Don't really do a lot? Oh, like, <v Speaker 1>let's do like, well, Bunker's d Bobcat Bonkers. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bonkers is a good one. <v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, all right, Hero, I'll give you his his <v Speaker 1>sort of his chillan. <v Speaker 2>I'm Bunker's DP Bobcat, the first tone detective in Hollywood Division. <v Speaker 4>The first tune detective detective. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, who can I do with this? <v Speaker 4>How about Jagged Stone from Miraculous Ladybug? He says, I'm Bonker. <v Speaker 2>Who Bunker's d Bobcat the first tone detective Hollywood Division. <v Speaker 1>Oh right, it's Jagged Stone. <v Speaker 3>I'm Jagged Stone. <v Speaker 5>The first tune detective in the Hollywood Division is rock <v Speaker 5>and Roll. <v Speaker 4>Man, let's go. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's awesome. It's got a little Mike Myers in there. <v Speaker 4>Yeah. You know what's funny is when I got to <v Speaker 4>the session, Yeah, I started with his name is Jagged Stone, <v Speaker 4>and so what's the first thing that comes to your mind? <v Speaker 4>Mick Jagger Stones? <v Speaker 1>Right. <v Speaker 4>So the very first time I did the character, I <v Speaker 4>mean I was finding a voice for it. <v Speaker 5>It was already he man, I was just Jagged Stone, <v Speaker 5>the lips just like it was as all that right day, right, <v Speaker 5>you know. And they said, well, that's really good. We <v Speaker 5>like the idea of an English accent for this guy. <v Speaker 5>But it's a kid show. <v Speaker 4>I mean, adults watch it too, but it's like, let's <v Speaker 4>like make him a little more friendy. I go, how <v Speaker 4>about I do a little bit of yeah aby els <v Speaker 4>in powers man? <v Speaker 3>Like I started doing, like, yeah, mix. <v Speaker 4>Those two together. So then I was like it's Jagged Stone. <v Speaker 4>He's a rocker. We love jagged you know, and. <v Speaker 3>So it kind of mixed the two together and it <v Speaker 3>almost reminds me of like Russell Brand from Get Him <v Speaker 3>to the Yeah, a little bit of that. Yeah that's <v Speaker 3>really good. <v Speaker 1>Yeah I can hear that. Let's see my turn right. <v Speaker 4>Oh. There was a character I played on The Regular Show. <v Speaker 4>His name was Barry and he lived underneath the shag <v Speaker 4>carpet of a car backseat and he lived there for <v Speaker 4>twenty years. <v Speaker 1>He lived underneath the shag carpet of a car of <v Speaker 1>a car the back seat, but the backseat to back seat, <v Speaker 1>not the front. <v Speaker 4>For twenty years he lived there. He was in trouble <v Speaker 4>with the law, and yes he was. The episode was <v Speaker 4>called The Every Meat Burrito. And the way they found <v Speaker 4>this guy was they set the burrito bag down on <v Speaker 4>the carpet and then it just went down into the carpet, <v Speaker 4>and so they followed him down into the carpet. And <v Speaker 4>it's a really funny episode. But at one point he goes, hey. <v Speaker 1>Man, that's my burrito. <v Speaker 3>Man. <v Speaker 1>So okay, so who am I supposed to Who should <v Speaker 1>I be able to do that? <v Speaker 3>Who's like the closest character you have to a stoner? <v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Yeah. <v Speaker 3>Uh, I would say I would say cheshire cat, but <v Speaker 3>that's not really a stone What about tiger Tigger? <v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, let's try tigger. <v Speaker 4>Hey man, that's my burrito. <v Speaker 1>Man, Hey man, that's my burrito. <v Speaker 4>Man. <v Speaker 1>Bounce out of here. Wow, okay, don't try that at home. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, that character. When I got there, they said we <v Speaker 4>really wanted to be kind of like Dennis Hopper from <v Speaker 4>Apocalypse Now. He was the photographer and that. Yeah, And <v Speaker 4>I was like, let's watch a little bit of him. <v Speaker 4>And he had like this thing man where he was <v Speaker 4>like all kind of wired up and you know, and so. <v Speaker 1>He's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's out there man. <v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, oh man, you know. And so we threw <v Speaker 4>that and it just went worked great. <v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. <v Speaker 4>There's a scene from uh a show. It's not a show, <v Speaker 4>it's a movie. It was called Karate Girl in the <v Speaker 4>seventies and it's known as having the worst death scene <v Speaker 4>of all time in a movie where like the lady <v Speaker 4>shoots the guy and you can see he's got like <v Speaker 4>a catchup pack in his hand, right, and she shoots <v Speaker 4>him and he goes ah, and then she shoots him <v Speaker 4>again and he goes ah, like he falls against the walls. <v Speaker 4>You might have seen this, it's like been a meme <v Speaker 4>or whatever. Oh, but it's really funny. And the guy <v Speaker 4>just she keeps shooting him and he key bounces against <v Speaker 4>the mirror on the wall. Then he falls into the <v Speaker 4>desk and he wipes swipes away all the stuff on <v Speaker 4>the desk while he's dying right like it's all it's <v Speaker 4>the worst death scene ever. And that character in the <v Speaker 4>Regular Show they mimicked that whole scene. So at one point, <v Speaker 4>you know, he's saying, that's my burrito man, and they <v Speaker 4>walk up they hit him right and he's like ah, <v Speaker 4>and they're going. <v Speaker 1>Like, what's he doing overacting? <v Speaker 4>It was really funny though. <v Speaker 1>He's going for the anti. <v Speaker 4>Yes, it's a fan anti Ascar. Yeah, he's a favorite <v Speaker 4>on that show, that one episode. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really good, funny. Oh Box, thanks for being here. Man. <v Speaker 3>Wow wait wait wait, I heard a great story about you. <v Speaker 3>I want you to retell it about you dressing up <v Speaker 3>as Han Solo, going to conventions as a kid, and <v Speaker 3>then eventually coming to play on So yeah, I thought <v Speaker 3>that was a really cool full circus moment. <v Speaker 4>Wow, that is one of the most amazing things. There's <v Speaker 4>two full circle moments for me. The first one, I'll <v Speaker 4>just be brief because it's not the Han solo one. <v Speaker 4>My brother who passed away about ten years ago. Before <v Speaker 4>he passed away, he was the biggest Batman fan you <v Speaker 4>could possibly ever have. I mean, Gotham City on one arm, <v Speaker 4>the bad signal on the other arm, his car with <v Speaker 4>lights that had bad things, this and that, the bat match, <v Speaker 4>the bad thing. I mean, he had everything. And one <v Speaker 4>of the greatest moments that was like full circle for <v Speaker 4>me was being able to play Batman and have him <v Speaker 4>come to a student session and watch his brother great <v Speaker 4>Batman and. <v Speaker 1>Just like he was. <v Speaker 4>That's the most proud I ever remember him being. And <v Speaker 4>just like just oh, he was almost in tears. He <v Speaker 4>was just like this could couldn't be. The only way <v Speaker 4>could be greater is if he were playing Batman. <v Speaker 1>Right. <v Speaker 4>Yeah. He was an actor too, but never a voice actor. Okay, <v Speaker 4>that's the story about my brother. <v Speaker 1>How cool. <v Speaker 4>It was amazing cool. So when I was fifteen sixteen <v Speaker 4>years old, we would go to these sci fi conventions, <v Speaker 4>you know, Star Wars fans, and I would always dress <v Speaker 4>as Han solo and my three or four friends would <v Speaker 4>be the rest of the crew, right, Princess Leiah Luke Chewy. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>And so I did that like year after year, and <v Speaker 4>then a few years after I became a voice actor, <v Speaker 4>the Han Solo audition came across, you know, and I <v Speaker 4>was like, oh, this is this is a real thing, <v Speaker 4>playing Han Solo for a real Star Wars something. And <v Speaker 4>so my agent said, you know, she didn't say, don't <v Speaker 4>get your hopes up, but she said, there's a really <v Speaker 4>big pool. They're auditioning like four hundred people in four <v Speaker 4>different cities, so you're in this. There's a lot of <v Speaker 4>people auditioning for this. And I said, okay, that's fine. <v Speaker 4>So I auditioned. A month later, they came back, okay, <v Speaker 4>you're down to the top thirty two or whatever it was. <v Speaker 4>And then a month later it came down to sixteen, <v Speaker 4>and then eight, and then when we were down to eight, <v Speaker 4>they gave us the actual audio of Harrison Ford from <v Speaker 4>a New Hope, without any special effects, without any you know, <v Speaker 4>I still have those without any music, no effect. It <v Speaker 4>was just off of his mic, Harrison Ford talking and <v Speaker 4>doing all his lines you know from the movie, and <v Speaker 4>so as a fan, as an uber fan, I just <v Speaker 4>like and as a voice match guy. Everything I just <v Speaker 4>sunk into that. And then it just kept going and <v Speaker 4>going until I got the part. My agent, it was <v Speaker 4>Sandy Schnarr at the time. She called me, and she <v Speaker 4>was really sweet. She almost pretended like I didn't get <v Speaker 4>the part. She's like, hey, you know what you came <v Speaker 4>to me, did she? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, it must be her shtick. <v Speaker 4>It's just a little thing like, oh, you did so well, <v Speaker 4>you got so far. You should be proud of how <v Speaker 4>far you came in this part. And I just wanted <v Speaker 4>to tell you, no matter what happened, you should feel <v Speaker 4>good about it, you know. She was like pumping me <v Speaker 4>up a loss, right right. And then she said, oh, <v Speaker 4>and by the way, you got the part, you know, <v Speaker 4>And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, what's the <v Speaker 4>bad news? What's yeah exactly, what's the priming for the <v Speaker 4>bad news? But when I got the part, I hung <v Speaker 4>up the phone, you know, Oh, thank you for playing <v Speaker 4>it cool. I hung up the phone and I was <v Speaker 4>literally running around my house screaming like a teenager. Yeah, <v Speaker 4>just like, oh my god, I got Hansole, Oh my god, <v Speaker 4>I got Hansole. You know, and I called my friends <v Speaker 4>who I went to high school with and I would cosplay. Yeah, <v Speaker 4>we're still in touch. And I called them and say, <v Speaker 4>you would never guess on this next game that's coming <v Speaker 4>out for Star Wars, I'm playing Han Solo and I <v Speaker 4>played them for a few games and it was great. <v Speaker 4>I got to say stuff like watch your mouth, kid, <v Speaker 4>you're gonna find yourself floating home, you know, like that <v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. That's great, good, great. So it was just, uh, <v Speaker 4>it was such a great thrill and still to this day. <v Speaker 4>I mean, I've done so much Star Wars stuff in <v Speaker 4>my career. Now. I've been Stormtroopers in like nineteen video games. <v Speaker 4>I did voices for Stormtroopers and for the movies. I <v Speaker 4>played podammer In for video games, and Lego I played, <v Speaker 4>you know, on Solo for video games. So to me, <v Speaker 4>Star Wars is like. <v Speaker 3>Did they ask you to sound like Oscar Isaac? <v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah they did. <v Speaker 4>What's funny though, is when I did the first Lego game, <v Speaker 4>they it was before the release of the movie where <v Speaker 4>Oscar Isaac was playing podamer In, and I said, okay, <v Speaker 4>so what does he sound like And They're like, well, <v Speaker 4>it's it's under Lock and Key. They won't give us anything. <v Speaker 4>It's Oscar Isaac and I was like, Oscar Isaac, okay. <v Speaker 4>So I looked up Ex Machina, which was a movie <v Speaker 4>he was in, and I didn't get any like real <v Speaker 4>vibe from him, and I was like, well, what do <v Speaker 4>you want me to do? Is when I got to <v Speaker 4>the session, they said, we want you to do him <v Speaker 4>kind of like Hansolo, keep him real roguey. I think <v Speaker 4>that was an actual term to use, rogue, and I <v Speaker 4>was like rogue okay. So I just kind of gave <v Speaker 4>him like a han Solo thing, you know, almost right. <v Speaker 4>And then when he says his name at one point <v Speaker 4>in this one lego thing, I did and it's Po <v Speaker 4>dammer in right, And I said it's Po Dammering and <v Speaker 4>the director, one of the assistants, said, well, I think <v Speaker 4>it's Damarn in this and I was like, wells spelled <v Speaker 4>like Cameron but with a D in front, and they said, <v Speaker 4>we'll just give it to us as Damarn because I <v Speaker 4>think so I was like, I'm Poe Dammaron. I'm here <v Speaker 4>to help you, you know, and it wasn't it was Dammarn, <v Speaker 4>you know. So later the movie came out and I'm like, <v Speaker 4>oh shoot. So when I got cast as Poe for <v Speaker 4>Battlefront two, which was a video game, it was another <v Speaker 4>great game. I was like, Okay, now now I know <v Speaker 4>it's Poe. And I listened to him in the movies <v Speaker 4>and stuff and one last little story. I know we've <v Speaker 4>already talked our time, I guess, but I was. There <v Speaker 4>was a show called Resistance where I was cast. It's <v Speaker 4>an animated series on Disney that I was cast as <v Speaker 4>a major Vaughan Regg, who's this tie fighter, the bad <v Speaker 4>guy of the show. And when I was cast as that, <v Speaker 4>they also said, how's your Oscar Isaac, And I was like, <v Speaker 4>it's pretty good. <v Speaker 1>I said, there's a question. <v Speaker 3>Why askar experienced? He has water and food, so yeah, <v Speaker 3>he's good. <v Speaker 1>He's taking care of so I. <v Speaker 4>I played the po Dommron character for the first eleven episodes, <v Speaker 4>and then on episode twelve when I got there, I <v Speaker 4>was coming in to play Poe and and also major <v Speaker 4>Von Regg, and the director was like, and I was like, <v Speaker 4>is he feeling OK. There we go, here we go. <v Speaker 4>Something's not working. He goes like, le's got talking for <v Speaker 4>a minute. I'm like, yeah, sure. He goes We love <v Speaker 4>what you're doing. Your pote, your pot Dimmern is fucking <v Speaker 4>oh excuse me, is perfect. It's great. But we made <v Speaker 4>the offer to Oscar Isaac nine months ago and he <v Speaker 4>just got back to us that he would accept the offer. <v Speaker 4>So he's going to be playing Potammer when I'm hurry, yeah, <v Speaker 4>I know. Can we wait till the end of the <v Speaker 4>season him pick it up and then you know, but <v Speaker 4>you know, I thought, if you have to be replaced <v Speaker 4>by somebody, how about the original guy that plays the character. <v Speaker 4>You know, it's like no sweat, you know. So, but <v Speaker 4>it was funny because during the sessions, do you ever <v Speaker 4>have a gym where when you're gonna do a character, <v Speaker 4>you come up up with a line that you say <v Speaker 4>first to like get into that character. Oh yeah, you <v Speaker 4>ever did that, like justcline to get you in there? Yeah. <v Speaker 4>So for Podammer in I had the scene when he's <v Speaker 4>talking to BB eight and he's about to split up <v Speaker 4>and he says, I'll come back for you. So before <v Speaker 4>I did any line, I would always go, Okay, BB eight, <v Speaker 4>I'll come back for you. Don't worry BB eight, All right, <v Speaker 4>let's go, you know, and i'd have like that that <v Speaker 4>sense of what to say, right. So I did that <v Speaker 4>for the doorman too. Oh yeah, curious George. I was <v Speaker 4>thinking I'd say it out loud and most of the time, <v Speaker 4>but I'd be like, a doorman's door is as important <v Speaker 4>as his uniform. That kind of old timey guy that's <v Speaker 4>very happy and very pleased, you know, like that's him. <v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know that, dude, Yeah, I know that dude. <v Speaker 4>Yeah. <v Speaker 1>Well that's so cool. <v Speaker 3>Since set the set the Guinness Book of World Mikers <v Speaker 3>from US watch it, I feel like we have to <v Speaker 3>hear some voices. <v Speaker 1>So check it out. <v Speaker 4>One last story when I got to the session. Actually, <v Speaker 4>the first sessions we had were during COVID and we <v Speaker 4>were doing them remotely. And this particular show is done <v Speaker 4>what they call simulcast, so it comes out on a <v Speaker 4>Monday in Japan. It goes to the English adaptation writer <v Speaker 4>on Tuesday, which is basically a guy who's going to <v Speaker 4>take the literal translation and adapt it so that the <v Speaker 4>mouth flaps fit the English. For example, in Japanese, good <v Speaker 4>morning is ohiogazaimas, so in the Japanese animation it's up up, up, <v Speaker 4>up up up right, Well, good morning is way I yes, <v Speaker 4>So they have to the adaptation writer has to write, Hey, everybody, <v Speaker 4>good morning or whatever if they you know, fill fill <v Speaker 4>it in. Yeah, And so that happens on Tuesday. Wednesday, <v Speaker 4>the director gets that piece that that new script, and <v Speaker 4>then we record from Wednesday to Wednesday, and then on <v Speaker 4>Wednesday they turn it into Crunchy role or whoever's playing it, <v Speaker 4>and then the following morning the English dub comes out. <v Speaker 4>So when I did the session, I said to the director, well, <v Speaker 4>tell me about this character, like, is he a good <v Speaker 4>guy or bad guy? And he goes, I don't know, <v Speaker 4>and I was like, okay. <v Speaker 1>Okay, that helps. <v Speaker 4>And the version I played two versions of this character. <v Speaker 4>One his name is Sugaru Gatto, and he's like, he's <v Speaker 4>a sorcerer guy. But then later he dies and he <v Speaker 4>gets his he gets possessed by this brain entity that <v Speaker 4>is named ken Joku, and Kenjaku when he's he's in <v Speaker 4>the same body, but he has this giant scar across <v Speaker 4>his forehead. <v Speaker 1>That's how you know which one's which. <v Speaker 4>So season one was this character named Kenjoku that the <v Speaker 4>director didn't know about. He just knew about Sugaru Gatto, right, <v Speaker 4>So I get that I'm like, what's the scar across <v Speaker 4>his head about? And he goes, I don't know. <v Speaker 1>I had a bad night. <v Speaker 4>I was like, wait a minute, you don't know what <v Speaker 4>the character is and you don't, so what do you <v Speaker 4>want me to do with. <v Speaker 1>My red guy? <v Speaker 4>Yeah? Sure, I'm even playing this guy. I said, what <v Speaker 4>do you want me to do with the character's voice? <v Speaker 4>And he goes, just kind of use your own voice. <v Speaker 4>So I'm like, okay, I can do that. But he's <v Speaker 4>like good or bad like that? Where am I like too? <v Speaker 4>It's like what's his motive in this show? And he goes, <v Speaker 4>he's very mysterious. Just kind of keep him mysterious right now. <v Speaker 4>And so I did, like my own voice almost like <v Speaker 4>this very mysterious for the first season, and then we <v Speaker 4>did a movie right after that. And when I went <v Speaker 4>in to do the movie a year or so later, <v Speaker 4>there was a new director and the movie was a <v Speaker 4>flashback before he had the scar, and he was still <v Speaker 4>this older this other character, younger guy. And so I <v Speaker 4>came in and I said, oh, wait, he doesn't have <v Speaker 4>the scar. What happened to his scr And the director goes, well, <v Speaker 4>he's not Ken Jocku anymore. And I was like, who's <v Speaker 4>ken Jacku, Like I didn't know anything because he never <v Speaker 4>told me the name of Kenjaku. And so she goes, whoa, whoa, <v Speaker 4>whoa stop, come into the booth and she had all <v Speaker 4>the manga, which is like the you know, the animation <v Speaker 4>magazines and stuff. And she showed me all the manga <v Speaker 4>and we looked at the flashbacks in the film, and <v Speaker 4>she's like, he's a good guy, but he's a villain. <v Speaker 4>He turns dark, you know, And she like gave me <v Speaker 4>the whole story on the character, and I was like, ah, okay, <v Speaker 4>I can start pulling out of the mysterious zone and <v Speaker 4>into the character himself. <v Speaker 1>So I did that in the movie. <v Speaker 4>And then when we got to season two, there was <v Speaker 4>a new director who knew it as good as the <v Speaker 4>film director, or even better. And by that time, once <v Speaker 4>I saw the film when it came out before season <v Speaker 4>two happened, I fell in love with the show. It's <v Speaker 4>a great show, and I was like, you know what, <v Speaker 4>I'm going to start reading the manga myself so I <v Speaker 4>can get ahead of the game. So I read all <v Speaker 4>the way to the end. So by the time season <v Speaker 4>two started, I was like, I know everything there is <v Speaker 4>to know about this character, about this show. It felt <v Speaker 4>so I know where he has been, I know where <v Speaker 4>he's going, I know where any flashback takes him, you know. Like, <v Speaker 4>so for the viewers out there that watch the show, <v Speaker 4>you'll notice he's very mysterious and he sounds a lot <v Speaker 4>like me. In season one and then season two he <v Speaker 4>starts chewing down on the meat of it all and <v Speaker 4>season Yeah, in season two in the movie, it's like, <v Speaker 4>I know where I'm at now, So no, there you go, <v Speaker 4>and we're in season three right now, we just about <v Speaker 4>to go to I think it's so twelve of season <v Speaker 4>three right now. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, congrats. So that was his voice. <v Speaker 4>He has this line people always we traded it out <v Speaker 4>when we did our first little promo for this, but <v Speaker 4>it's people are always asking him to say filthy monkey <v Speaker 4>who can't even use jiu jitsu? <v Speaker 1>Right, remember that? <v Speaker 3>Well, what character would you be to say that line? <v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, there would be a p right that would <v Speaker 1>probably that could be filthy monkey who can't even use <v Speaker 1>ju jitsu? <v Speaker 3>Good zoo, tight, Well you said jiu jitsu, but it's <v Speaker 3>jiu jitsu. <v Speaker 1>Filthy monkey who can't even use ju jujitsu. <v Speaker 4>There you go pers Yes, wow, we've had Oh man, <v Speaker 4>I'm really loving this. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, well good stuff. <v Speaker 3>I mean, it seems like we have a lot more <v Speaker 3>to talk about. Times should go part two. Yeah, we'll <v Speaker 3>do a part two for sure. <v Speaker 4>We got to bring Sandy in with us too, because yeah, <v Speaker 4>I could just drop her off and she would do <v Speaker 4>her own hour or whatever, because. <v Speaker 1>She you know, she'd be great. <v Speaker 4>She's Betty Boob, She's Hello Kitty, she's all these anime characters, <v Speaker 4>and she'd work for Disney for fourteen years in there <v Speaker 4>and there, let's. <v Speaker 1>Get her in here. <v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll tell her. I'll tell her for sure. Please <v Speaker 4>do we should do that? Yeah, and then maybe I'll <v Speaker 4>pop my head in while she's here. <v Speaker 1>We do have an extra chair well, and there's a mic. Yes, <v Speaker 1>actually yeah. <v Speaker 3>Is there anything you want to promote that's upcoming that <v Speaker 3>people can look for you social media? <v Speaker 4>Anything like that, you know, just my social media. It's <v Speaker 4>at lex lang for Instagram, and it's lex lang TikTok <v Speaker 4>for my TikTok. And I don't really do x the <v Speaker 4>Twitter or whatever that. I don't do that too much anymore. <v Speaker 4>Facebook sort of is by proxy of my Instagram at <v Speaker 4>automatically loads into my Facebook sometimes. But yeah, you know, <v Speaker 4>if I didn't have to do social media, I probably <v Speaker 4>wouldn't be on it as much. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>I enjoy some of the comedy stuff that's out there, <v Speaker 4>but it takes a lot of time. We have to <v Speaker 4>do it as part of our career now, you know, <v Speaker 4>we have to promote the shows we're going to and <v Speaker 4>a lot do all that stuff. You know, it has its, <v Speaker 4>it has its benefits. It is actually very entertaining one <v Speaker 4>minute at a time, you know, But did you did <v Speaker 4>you run out? <v Speaker 1>Did you over here? <v Speaker 4>Okay? <v Speaker 3>Prepared just like a scar. <v Speaker 4>And I got to tell you not on not on record, <v Speaker 4>but off record of one interaction that we had one <v Speaker 4>time that you will not remember. I guarantee you you <v Speaker 4>will not remember. But it it It was again like <v Speaker 4>not for the show. But okay, let's wrap the show <v Speaker 4>up and then we'll and then we'll I'll tell you <v Speaker 4>this story. <v Speaker 1>What do we ask? You have anything you need to <v Speaker 1>tout and promote? <v Speaker 4>Yeah, nothing to promote right now. There's lots of anime <v Speaker 4>coming up, lots of video games coming up. I would <v Speaker 4>love if Bruce tim is out there and you're watching <v Speaker 4>this show, Bruce, I would absolutely love another crack at Batman, <v Speaker 4>maybe in my own you know, Bruce, I've been really <v Speaker 4>studying this character for a long time. Yes, you and <v Speaker 4>I am ready for a Batman series. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. <v Speaker 4>So, Bruce, if you're out there, connect, let's connect in <v Speaker 4>some way please. <v Speaker 1>Yeah. So we all want to hear it. Yes, I do. <v Speaker 4>I want to be able to bring my Batman back <v Speaker 4>to the ANIA series. <v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, all right, Well, thank you so much for <v Speaker 3>being he thank giving us a great conversation. And for <v Speaker 3>those of you guys who want to see us live, <v Speaker 3>we're doing a little partnership with Fan Expo this year. <v Speaker 3>We're doing some live podcasts in front of an audience. <v Speaker 3>It's a little bit of a higher energy, you know, <v Speaker 3>it's some different kind of feel. We record it for <v Speaker 3>everybody so that you can watch, you know, a week <v Speaker 3>or two later. But I just wanted to announce some <v Speaker 3>of the upcoming dates for that. The next one we <v Speaker 3>will be at is Calgary Xpo from April twenty third <v Speaker 3>to the twenty sixth, followed by Philadelphia Fan Expo May <v Speaker 3>twenty nine to the thirty first, Chicago Fan Expo August <v Speaker 3>fourteenth to sixteenth, Toronto. I believe that one's called wonder Con. <v Speaker 3>Wonder Con, it's still Fan Expo, but I believe it's <v Speaker 3>called wondercn Toronto August twenty seven to the thirtieth, Dallas <v Speaker 3>Fan Expo September eleven to thirteenth, and finally San Francisco <v Speaker 3>November twenty seven to twenty ninth. So if you're in <v Speaker 3>the area, please stop by. I mean, it's it's a <v Speaker 3>great time. You get to watch the show live. It's <v Speaker 3>a it's a different little energy, and you know, we <v Speaker 3>get some questions and answers afterwards, you get to go <v Speaker 3>see Jim at the booth afterwards. <v Speaker 1>If you're not in the area, be in the area. <v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean people travel pretty far for these <v Speaker 3>these conventions. <v Speaker 1>It's wild. It's wonderful. Yeah. <v Speaker 4>I mean, like twenty six of them coming up this year. <v Speaker 1>Yeah, right o wow. <v Speaker 4>So check out my website for further information. <v Speaker 3>Absolutely do that, yes now, and be sure to like <v Speaker 3>and subscribe. You for watching on YouTube. It helps us, <v Speaker 3>it helps you, helps the algorithm. It's just good for everybody. <v Speaker 3>I mean, and I know it takes a lot of <v Speaker 3>effort to move that cursor right on over to the subscribe, <v Speaker 3>but it's honestly does a lot of good for you. Know, <v Speaker 3>YouTube's a weird website. You can literally watch something once <v Speaker 3>and then it's never recommended again. So don't let that happen. <v Speaker 3>And if you like this content so much you want <v Speaker 3>to see more of it, good news. We're on Patreon <v Speaker 3>as well. You can see bonus episodes, bonus content giveaways, <v Speaker 3>a little trivia episodes. 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