Hour 2 – Tim Legler, NFL Post-Draft Power Rankings

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. It's our two on this Wednesday. Gangs here, ready to go talk some hoops with Tim Legler. ESPN NBA analyst Dave mcmhamon was in Oklahoma City last night covering the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: He will join us as well. Pistons handle the Cavaliers. The Cavaliers made it interesting with five minutes to go, and then Caid Cunningham acted like Kid Cunningham. Thunder over the Lakers Shay Gilgess Alexander less than twenty points, seven turnovers, but they cruised to an eighteen point win. Tonight the Sixers at the Knicks. That'll be game two. Right now, the seventy six Ers are six and a half point underdogs Timberwolves at the Spurs. After winning Game one, the Timberwolves are nine and a half point underdogs against the Spurs. I already had the points spreads for Thursday, Cavs getting three and a half against the Pistons and Lakers getting fifteen and a half against the Thunder. All right, E eight seven seven three DP show more of your phone calls coming up. Operator Tyler sitting by. We say good morning, those watching the program on Peacock and NBC Sports Network. Also listening to the program as well, including iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. We're giving away a Rectech grill next Friday. You go to Rectech dot com, re e C T e Q dot com search the Dan Patrick Show for details. We do have Rectech grill fired up.

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Speaker 3: Today. It's Pizza Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We have a pizza insert that we just found out Rectech had when we were at the Draft and I said to Dylan, Dylan, I need you to whip up some pizzas today.

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Speaker 3: And what is on the menu.

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Speaker 4: Ah, Well, we just put on the pizza stone, the pepperoni and habanerro hot Hut. We've got pesto arugula, perscudo so prosada and a meatball in ricotta.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Okay, I think it's Regott Regott, yes, and it's Briguote.

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Speaker 4: It's it's stolen Valor. If I say.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm not Italian, your wife's Italian.

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Speaker 2: I know, but by proxy it doesn't matter because I'm not a loud When I say it it feels like I'm forcing it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys in the Tri State area who buy proxies.

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Speaker 3: That is true. All right. Poll question for hour two is going to be what all right, Dan?

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Speaker 4: This is off of pole Paul sent me and it's the best. I guess you would say. Underappreciated role in sports NBA defensive stopper, special team star in the NFL. I had a couple others, like the n NHL enforcer, maybe an MLB middle reliever or like utility guy, even though that's kind of gotten muddied over the years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, huh, defensive stopper used to be a big deal. It was like you got a label like Gary Payton.

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Speaker 3: He was the Glove. What a great nickname. He's gonna be on you. Fit you like a glove.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The sport is littered with great defensive players. I don't know if we single them out the way we used to. Now we are with Wemby just because that's unique. But even when Rudy Gobert would win Defensive Player of the Year, we kind of would go Okay, I don't know how many players do you have? The list of recent defensive Players of the Year aside from Rudy Gobert, Wemby's gonna win it this year, yes, Marvin, no continue please, Okay, I didn't know if you had the list there of guys who have won it. Remember Gerald Wilkins, they labeled him the Jordan stopper. That's so mean because Gerald Wilkins was not stopping Mike, and Mike loved you know, Dan mar was another guy that it was like, oh, this guy's supposed to stop me. Okay, Like Jordan invented reasons to get motivated, They gave him reasons to get motivated.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, kind of for this argument, we're talking about guys who are known for defense pretty much only you know, Kawhi Leonard started as a defensive star and then became a star star. But like a guy like remember Tyson Chandler, know he was there for defense. Rudy Gobert is there for defense. Even Marcus Smart a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of years Marcus smartt Asar.

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Speaker 5: Thompson the forward for Detroit. He is there for defense.

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Speaker 2: Marcus Smart's still playing good defense. Did he win Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 5: He did, He won it in twenty twenty two. So the past five after Wenby this year, Evan Mobley of the Cavs, Rudy Gobert, Jaren Jackson, Junior Marcus Smart, Rudy Gobert, and then Giannis won it in twenty twenty. Okay, how about that.

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Speaker 2: But it feels like it's a big man award because I don't know if you have that lockdown defense under the way we used to, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: You'll see guys in the playoffs starting to make their bones, like Jada McDaniels if he plays really good defense. So with somebody, I mean, we even have a term for it in the NBA three and D. Yeah, Like, look, if you could play really good defense, it hit an open three pointer and shoot thirty eight percent from the field, you can make one hundred million dollars in the NBA. So I think you kind of see it more so in the playoffs than in a regular season.

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Speaker 2: There's a list down the NBA's most overrated players. How did they take this survey?

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Speaker 7: Paul?

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Speaker 5: He was with the Athletic It was an anonymous survey of current NBA players.

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Speaker 2: Okay, who is the most overrated player in the NBA?

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Speaker 5: Rudy Gobert, no Alprin Sagoon of the Rockets and the Rockets big man who averages twenty and nine.

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Speaker 2: I know, but there's different twenties and nine where you go, Ah, he's averaging twenty and nine, but it means something. There's a lot of guys who were averaging some points and rebounds and assists where you go. Yeah, but they're not all equal. Yeah, Paul, this is.

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Speaker 5: The award you don't want to win. This is the we think you're a fraud award despite your stats. All right, Sagoon number one. Rudy Gobert finished second, Trey Young, Yeah, Karl Anthony Towns, he changed the game, but he's still overrated.

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Speaker 3: Best shooting big man of all time.

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Speaker 5: This is one that was surprised by fifth place. Paulo Boncaro of their magic.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's overrated, Wow, don't. I don't know if he's rated.

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Speaker 5: John Morant finished seventh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that seems like a long time ago. Jahn Morant was something on the floor, Yes, Dylan.

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Speaker 4: If you're going purely when he actually is on the floor. Though, John Morant's pretty special. There's obviously been some extracurricular activities that have h but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep waiting for his next team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: We also have the Athletics list of most underrated player based off a twenty twenty six bol who would like to guess clearly it can't be a big name, but he's very.

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Speaker 3: Good, Amen Thompson.

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Speaker 5: No, but I like the guests, did not make the top ten, all right.

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Speaker 3: Marvin the guy from Portland, your boy Denny Evita.

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Speaker 5: He finished on like twelfth, Okay, most underrated.

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Speaker 3: He had a great year this year.

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Speaker 5: He's even underrated on this.

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Speaker 3: He got out.

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Speaker 2: Of the Wizards and then goes to Portland and then all of a sudden becomes an All Star.

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Speaker 3: That was your buy, oh your bullet I remember.

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Speaker 2: I fell in love. I was like, I'm watching video man, this guy can play. And then all of a sudden he goes to the Wizards, and you know, i'd get reminded by Marvin.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how's your guy Denny doing? I go not very well? Okay, so most underrated.

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Speaker 5: He plays for a team that's perpetually struggling, but they make the playoffs, but they disappoint their fan base, gets critiques sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson Jalen Johnson the Atlanta Hawks is correct, blop blop. Based off that.

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Speaker 3: Hints did he even start at duke?

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Speaker 2: Was?

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Speaker 3: Was he a duke?

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Speaker 6: He was a duke, but I don't know if he started. See that's the thing with today's NBA. These guys don't come in as stars because you're not there long enough for them to become stars.

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Speaker 2: But he is a really talented player. Really, but you got to tune in to watch the Hawks and you know you're not going to do that.

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Speaker 3: But he's a really talented player. Two ways they like to say, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson small forward averages twenty three and ten and eight assists.

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Speaker 3: I know he's a really good player.

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Speaker 5: But as we've said before, if you do that for a team like these, you know, Wizards or Hawks, yeah doesn't count.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, so he is number one under rated.

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Speaker 5: The other two guys both play for the same team.

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Speaker 3: Peyton Pritchard. No, but he's Beth Oh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's two more Celtics on the list. Derek White and Jalen Brown finished second and third and the most underrated poll.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know if Derek White's going to be there next year. The postseason didn't go quite as scripted.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Dilly, Jalen Brown surprising because it's not he was like third in the MVP list this year, so it's not like he's just kind of some guy flying under the radar. I mean he's on the Celtics. He was their guy this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he could be underrated because he's in He's been in the shadow of Jason Tatum, and then people finally were looking at him and saying he's equal, and then looking at him this year and saying he surpassed Jason Tatum. Now, of course Tatum was injured, but as far as MVP candidate, h I was trumpeting his season because I was like he they went from this is a gap year too. We got a chance to go to the NBA Finals and they should have blown a three to one lead. But do you see where Jaylen Brown got fined fifty fifty K for his comments about the officials. I'm surprised he got off easy with fifty thousand when you say the officials have an agenda and the officials told you I gotta spank you one hundred thousand, Yes, do.

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Speaker 4: The fine fines and pro sports are kind of funny in general, Like we were a guy who's making fifty five million dollars and you're like, that's gonna be twenty five thousand dollars. Fine, you're like, that is a rounding error, yes, tum.

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Speaker 8: But if you're making a hundred thousand and then Adam Silver and the powers that we could say you got fifty of it back. If you have physical evidence that shows there was an agenda you got any way you can possibly prove that was said to you and then you get half of it back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex in Utah, Hi, Alex, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, gentlemen.

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Speaker 9: On the topic of writers, one of the craziest riders I ever heard of.

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Speaker 10: Was Van Halen.

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Speaker 9: They put they had in their rider both full of Eminem's take out all the green ones. And the reason that they did that is they had a really complicated set design and if something was set up improperly, they someone could get hurt. And so they wanted to make sure that people read were reading their instructions. So if they go to their green room see the Eminem's and they're green Eminems, they know that they didn't read the instructions. But anyway, the big main reason I wanted to call it was I am just in awe of Lebron right now. I mean, he's forty one years old and is leading that offense. It's I really appreciate you guys not turning this into a Jordan versus Lebron because it's just it's just history that we're watching and I want to I want to enjoy it. Final thing, I don't know if you guys saw, but that Pablo Torre won a Pulitzer for his story on the Clippers, and I completely forgotten about that, and I think Steve Balmer was hoping I would forget about it too. But I think this is now going to be back in the light, and I imagine that the NBA is going to now have to take action because now the story has been legitimized by the Pulitzer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised, and I reached out to Pablo and congratulated him, and he responded by saying, you know, thank you.

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Speaker 3: This is surreal.

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Speaker 2: The concern I have here is we don't know if the story is true. Like Pablo did a deep dive on you know, Kawhi Leonard, this company that was sponsoring the Clippers, they gave him a job that he really didn't have to do anything, but he made a lot of money. Did they circumvent the salary cap? Okay, now that sounds great, but I mean, you have to prove that it's true. But that's why I was surprised with the Pulitzer Prize being awarded to him on something that I don't think has been confirmed by the NBA or is Steve Balmer Kawhi, We have information, but I don't know. I was kind of surprised at that that we don't have that on lockdown, Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 5: According to a story this morning from ESPN, the investigation by the NBA is ongoing now. The NBA hired an outside firm to do the investigation. It started in September and it is not wrapped up yet.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Dodd, can you give someone a pending Pulitzer Prize and it's on standby and then once we get all of the information you're actually receiving I don't know, like Poltry prizing waiting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, Yes, Deil.

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Speaker 4: That was one of those stories that I think kind of ran out of steam a little bit too. Like in the current news cycle, I don't think people are that surprised that that's going on. I'm sure it is not the only time something like that's going on, And that seems like people moved on fairly.

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Speaker 2: If if it would had to do with Lebron, then it would be a big deal. But it had to do with Kawhi, the Clippers and some company you never heard of.

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Speaker 4: Would Lebron make an excuse or a reason?

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Speaker 3: I saw where.

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Speaker 2: First take is welcoming Skip Bayless back, So you know there's going to be some Lebron hating coming up on that show. Yeah, and some cowboy conversation.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: If you want to foil for steven A, Nick Wright would go toe to toe with steven A. And I would put my money on Nick right now. He's got a job, he's got a show. But if they really wanted to have debate and not just guys screaming at each other, Nick Wright would be the call that would that would shake things up a little bit. But Skip Bayless coming back, stephen A said, oh, you know, I'm always open to having you know, younger talent on Skip Bayliss is seventy four, like younger than who, But you know Skip's coming back for some reason. For a guest appearance there great. All right, let me take a break. Speaking of the mother Ship. Tim Legler will join us. Coming up here. More of your phone calls as well. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: He's Tim Legler ESPNNBA analyst. He'll be on the call tonight. It's Game two Sixers and the Knicks and the Garden tip off seven eastern on the mother Ship.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling, geep?

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Speaker 7: What's up? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 7: Good to be with you?

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Speaker 3: Everything's good how should Nick fans be feeling after Game one.

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Speaker 7: Right now?

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Speaker 12: Not just because of Game one, but because of the way they closed out the Atlanta series.

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Speaker 7: Nobody in the league is playing better than the Knicks.

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Speaker 12: Of all the teams left in the playoffs, this is the team right now that is the most dominant on both ends of the floor. So they should be feeling very, very confident. Look, Philadelphi is probably gonna give them their best punch tonight. I expected the Knicks to win that game rather handily, just because you know, Philly went seven with Boston. They that's their you know, their nemesis that continually knocks them out of the playoffs. They overcame a three to one deficit. You turn around forty eight hours later less than that, and you're, you know, playing the Knicks in the garden who've been sitting there waiting on you. So I kind of figured that. I didn't think it'd be as bad as it was. I think now you find out what kind of series this is going to be. Tonight, Philadelphi's gonna punch back. But as I said, the Knicks are in the best offensive rhythm they've been in all season, and they are now combining that with a very physical, energized defense. And this is what it looks like when you get a team playing their absolute best basketball.

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Speaker 2: But what changed They were down two to one to the Hawks and then what clicked? What was different, you know, from then on to where we are now.

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Speaker 12: For me, the biggest change was mid series, and Mike Brown's alluded to this, they had to unlock their offense. And to me, when their offense was unlocked, it that's what's kind of energized their defense.

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Speaker 7: And how do they unlock their offense.

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Speaker 12: They sort of changed the way they were utilizing Karl Anthony Towns and where he was catching the ball and including him as more of a guy that they could go to early in the offense and he could use his passing a little bit more. And it wasn't just the assist numbers, like it's easy to say that if a guy gets more assisted, oh, you know, they ran the ball through him a little bit more. Like if you watch them, it was obvious they're like, hey, listen, Carl Anthony Towns lakes to catch the ball at the top of the key and the elbows anyway, and he's being guarded by a smaller guy in at Conguu who's an undersized center. So Carl Anthony Towns has all these passing windows available to him, and if that's where he wants the ball, and he's gonna feel more included and we're not gonna worry about it shot attempts because it wasn't.

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Speaker 7: Like he was shooting more as his scoring numbers weren't up.

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Speaker 12: It was his inclusion and utilizing him from that spot to start to like really run their offense and pick them apart. And it unlocked things for Ojananobi and Michale Bridges and.

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Speaker 7: That's how they finished off that series.

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Speaker 12: And then their defense just was was I said, more up on their toes because things were going better on the other end.

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Speaker 7: And it's led to this. I give Mike Brown credit.

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Speaker 12: Some guys are so married to how they want to coach offensively, where guys should be. They know what's best all the time. It takes, you know, a guy that's willing to really look at his team mid series and say, you know what, we need to adjust something. Here they did it. It unlocked everything and here we go, man four straight games and particularly these last two, you know, it's it's almost perfect basketball that they're playing right now, and it's gonna see what Philadelphia can do.

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Speaker 7: To disrupt it.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to a home court advantage, you know, the Garden used to rock. It's still rocking now. But you know we would single out Boston Garden, Madison Square Garden. But what makes a true home court advantage? How does that affect you as a player a visiting player?

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Speaker 7: I think a big.

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Speaker 12: Part of it is Number one, you know, they're just they're ready at the tip and most of most of the arenas you're talking about now, and then you know teams that they're good teams that were the fan base things, they really have a shot. That's typically the case in the playoffs. But it is the lack of the peaks and valleys throughout the game, you know what I mean. And that's staying with your team when there is a ten to two run the other way and staying in it, understanding like just the pulse of the game and when they need a little more from.

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Speaker 7: You as a crowd.

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Speaker 12: For me, I know, watching a game on television if you're not in the building, I don't think there's any arena that pops off like the Garden when the Knicks are good, and the garden is rocking like nothing else quite looks like that visually and in your city courts.

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Speaker 7: I look, there are other great environments in this league.

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Speaker 12: Okay, see is incredible right now, even Detroit like the environment that they have right now going on. It's so loud, so thunderous. So there are other arenas that you know, can match what the Knicks crowd.

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Speaker 7: Is bringing to the table.

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Speaker 12: But I think right now this fan base senses the path is there. It's been laid like this is their year to get back to the finals.

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Speaker 2: And last year, last year, the path was there too. They got rid of the Celtics tasting, Tatum gets hurt, and all they had to do is get past the Pacers, and everybody thought foregone conclusion. That's why if I'm a Knicks fan, I'm like, okay, easy, one game, this is probably going six or seven. You know, we've got to slug it out here. You know, we're not gonna win this in three. So I think having a sense of reality would help.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well I think that.

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Speaker 12: Listen, Northeast Corridor cities, New York, Philly, Boston similar in this in this regard, right, So when when their teams playing well like the Knicks are right now, it's like, there's no way we can anybody can stop us. And if they lose a couple of games in a row like they did in the Atlanta series, it's like, oh my, here we go, and you're talking about off season personnel changes already you're down two one in a series. That's just kind of how those cities work. It's why that's why there's just such great passionate you know, fan base. It is not always the easiest places to play as as an athlete, but when when things are going well, there's nothing quite like it, like that support that you're going to get. And I just think the way that everybody's sort of looking at the landscape in the East, the Celtics are no longer there. You didn't have to deal with the Pacers who were in the finals last year because of the injury to Halli Burton.

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Speaker 7: You'll Tatamy been missing most of the.

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Speaker 12: Year, change the Celtics regular season, and they weren't able to get it done.

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Speaker 7: At the end.

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Speaker 12: You've got a Detroit Pistons team that's a sixty win team and elite defensive team. But I think you know, the New York Knicks feel like, hey, you know, we took care of them a year ago.

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Speaker 7: Now I know the Pistons beat him up this year in a regular season, so that'll be an interesting matchup if.

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Speaker 12: We get there. A lot of basketball to be played. But right now, I'm telling you, the Knicks are so confident. Everybody in their starting lineup is playing well. They're getting great contributions X factor type stuff from their bench. Seems like Mike Brown's pushing all the right buttons right now. It's just this incredible momentum surge for the New York Knicks right now, and somebody's got to try to slow this down. Philadelphia's got to try to make something happen.

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Speaker 2: To night seventy six ers Knicks at the Garden on the Mothership at seven Eastern watching the Lakers last night.

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Speaker 3: There's only so much Lebron can do.

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Speaker 2: The fact he's doing as much as he's doing at his age is remarkable. And then I know people are probably going to look at his comment where it sounded like an excuse when he says, well, we don't have Luca. It's a fact and he was asked about it, so it's not like he said, oh we lost. Hey, keep in mind, I don't have Luca out there. We're gonna probably turn it. So you know it's against it's anti Lebron because he's making excuses there. What do you expect out of this series?

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, he's listen.

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Speaker 12: You can't deny the fact that you're talking about the best defensive.

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Speaker 7: Team in the NBA.

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Speaker 12: And you know, it's an argument that san Antonio is right there. Detroit is a great defense, so but to me, Oklahoma City is the best defense in the league because of the number of guys that they have on the perimeter with elite lateral speed strength.

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Speaker 7: They've just gotten.

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Speaker 12: More of those guys than anybody, and they've also got cheed Holmgrin back there as well. It's so difficult to operate your offense against them because it's so difficult to crack the outer shell and beat your guy, whether it's picking roll or one on one and get by them because they're so good defensively. So to take a guy like Luka Doncic that's that big, that strong, that good offensively, the best probably in the league at being able to collapse defenses and take him out of the series It's not an excuse.

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Speaker 7: It is a reason.

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Speaker 12: This is one of the best offensive players in the game, and now you don't have him, you don't have an in rhythm Austin Reeves, you know, so you know, credit to him. He made it back. He's not close to being at peak form. Austin Reeves is a major difference maker. He's got a handle, he's got strength, he draws fouls. He's really important in this series if the Lakers want to have a chance. Austin Reeves really struggled last night because he's only played a couple of games since he came back from a very long layoff.

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Speaker 7: It's a lot to ask to be.

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Speaker 12: Thrust into this environment and expect him to be at his best. So, yeah, I was watching the Amaos ling and you kind of empathize with Lebron.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Lebron couldn't played much better than he did.

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Speaker 12: If you take him and Ruey Hatchamura take their shooting percentages out of the mix, the rest of their team shot twenty nine percent. You just can't get it done. You've got to make your share of threes. You cannot turn the ball over the way they did against that team, and they just didn't play a clean enough game. The bad news for the Lakers actually is I thought Oklahoma City was like a seven out of their ten. Yeah, that's about when I would rate them. There's a lot more there for them. It was almost like they could have been had last night if Austin Reeves was was like more capable to give them a big night, and they weren't able to do it.

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Speaker 7: Oklahoma City. I think it's just going to get stronger as the series goes on.

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Speaker 12: Without Luka Doncicch, I think this is gonna be very difficult for the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: What is like to play against somebody who's seven to six?

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Speaker 12: Well, I never Yeah, I guess did I play against seven six? Yeah, I guess Sean Bradley, I played with a seven to seven. And I can tell you this, like neither one of those guys looked like what Victor Webber Yama looks like.

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Speaker 7: Did you play those guys? George Marason, right, George marrasson seven to seven?

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Speaker 12: And I remember the first time I had laid eyes when Jerry Marason when I joined the team, and it was at Bouey State University where we were running pickup games before the season.

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Speaker 7: And I actually this is a true story.

00:26:02
Speaker 12: I was over getting like gatorade like out of the cooler, the old style coolers, you know, I used to press the little button where we were getting gatorade.

00:26:08
Speaker 7: And and and I'm.

00:26:10
Speaker 12: Telling you, a massive shadow approached me from from behind and it kind of blocked out everything in front of me. And I turned around and your your eyes were like basically in his like solar plexus, like that's what you're looking at.

00:26:25
Speaker 7: And you kind of just look up at this guy and it's it's it's.

00:26:27
Speaker 12: Really jolting because you obviously tall scout ever played in the league. But you know, he wasn't out in the perimeter jumping out on a switch and like staying with a guard and then tracking them all the way to the rim.

00:26:38
Speaker 7: If you brought the action right to George at the rim, you were gonna have a problem scoring. But if you gonna ask him.

00:26:44
Speaker 12: To move around laterally a little bit, there's a good chance he was gonna get off balance and not get there in time.

00:26:49
Speaker 7: That's not the case here. The league's never seen anything like this.

00:26:51
Speaker 12: Defensively, the length we've seen, we've never seen the length combined with this level of athleticism and agility. It's just it's just and so for me, I've seen it. Sat qurtz Id have called games with wemen Yama. I don't know what that would feel like to try to drive to the rim on a half court defense with Wemben Yamas anywhere on the floor. It's just a totally different approach mentally to what you think you can do well.

00:27:12
Speaker 2: And I saw Anthony Edwards take a jumper over wemban Yama and I was like, oh my god, Like, you know, Joker had a fade away shot over Wemby, but you know you're seeing Edwards, who's what six' three going up against a guy who you know is seven to four and with, that you know the you know what.

00:27:34
Speaker 12: Was amazing about that, Shot dan was you know that play you're talking? About he iowed him and what one on one and he sort of tried to get him to back, up but he backed up a little. Bit but it wasn't like Wemmen yama fell all the way back to the. Paint he only backed up a little. Bit so when he went up to contest that, shot telling you right, now there's no Way Anthony edwards saw the basket because of Wemen yama's. Reached there's no way you can stay with your shot all the way to see the rim with that. Length so and he didn't hit anything but net. THAT i thought the same thing you. DID i don't know how that shot went in because there's no way his vision was. Clear good to talk to, You. Legs we'll be listening to.

00:28:09
Speaker 3: Night thank, You. Bud you got.

00:28:10
Speaker 1: It.

00:28:10
Speaker 2: Damn That's Tim LEGLER ESPN nba analyst who said that he could beat me in a three point shooting contest left, handed many many years, ago and he was serious about. It it's probably still serious about, it is that, Right? Legs you just said you were very serious that that.

00:28:28
Speaker 3: AFTERNOON i.

00:28:29
Speaker 7: WAS i. WAS i was incredibly, serious particularly at.

00:28:31
Speaker 3: That time in my.

00:28:32
Speaker 12: LIFE i don't quite shoot as much AS i used, to but i'd still Be, okay.

00:28:36
Speaker 3: Could you Beat Greg anthony left?

00:28:38
Speaker 7: Handed?

00:28:41
Speaker 3: Uh, no that's AN nba.

00:28:43
Speaker 7: PLAYER i. CAN'T i. Can't you can't be disrespectful to a former colleague IN.

00:28:46
Speaker 2: Nba will come, ON i could shoot better Than Greg anthony could from.

00:28:51
Speaker 3: D i can't go with him up bo Ga, no.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, no we even. Laughed he was taking a little Like Avery johnson eighteen. Footers you, know, yeah.

00:29:02
Speaker 7: HEY i, KNOW i know.

00:29:03
Speaker 12: THIS i used to shoot all the time BECAUSE i was coaching AND i was in a gym with my you, know my, guys my, son MY aau team THAT i coached for years on the under armored. Circuit SO i WAS i was at a gym like two three times a. WEEK i was getting up still a couple hundred jumpers all the way till about what ten years, AGO i THINK i. Stopped it's harder, now, man it's harder, now AND i STILL i still get myself ready for my basketball camp every.

00:29:27
Speaker 7: Summer SO i can SO i can wow the, kids like that's my.

00:29:30
Speaker 12: Goal to not walk in there as a guy that was a high level shooter and tow up a bunch of bricks for your shooting. Demonstration that wouldn't go very well with my my.

00:29:39
Speaker 7: Camp SO i get myself ready for that.

00:29:41
Speaker 12: Week other than, that, MAN i don't spend a lot of time shooting.

00:29:43
Speaker 3: Anymore Reggie miller can still, shoot, Man.

00:29:46
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, Yeah i'm. Sure i'm.

00:29:48
Speaker 3: Sure there's no. Doubt and he's, sixty like he's, yeah he.

00:29:51
Speaker 12: Has they gained one pounds. LATE i don't know how he pulled that off. EITHER i don't know how that's.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: Possible, uh thank, you legs all, Right dan jol tonight seven eastern on the Mother Ship game two of the seventy six. ERS i don't mean to be disrespectful To Greg. Anthony Greg anthony was a great, player but he was a fifteen to eighteen foot Like Avery. Johnson you, KNOW i shot Against Avery johnson and he would never go out to three point. Range he would always have like fifteen to eighteen feet and he never.

00:30:20
Speaker 3: MISSED i was, like, Damn paulie was.

00:30:22
Speaker 2: There we were at The MAVs practice facility and they were waiting to, practice AND i, said, No avery's got to win.

00:30:30
Speaker 3: This Before i'm getting off the.

00:30:31
Speaker 2: Floor Dirk novisky comes in and he sees me down on the floor and he.

00:30:35
Speaker 3: Says the circus is in. Town he was bothered THAT i was out. There those circus is in.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: Town it's Like nick Van exel was, saying, man this is, over this is.

00:30:48
Speaker 3: OVER i, said, no it's.

00:30:49
Speaker 2: Not he, said once you go down on the other, End nick And avery ended up beating. Me, yeah paul you were talking smack Like Larry BIRD i. WAS i was saying To Nick, man actually get out of.

00:30:59
Speaker 5: HERE i think that's how you have to win something like. That you have to get in people's.

00:31:02
Speaker 3: Heads OH i, KNOW i got to shut up.

00:31:04
Speaker 5: Here Greg anthony career average from three over the course of eleven years in THE, nba he shot thirty four and a half percent fun that's more than.

00:31:12
Speaker 2: SERVICEABLE i think he led the nation in scoring before he went TO. UNLV i think when he was At Portland university Of. PORTLAND i THINK i.

00:31:21
Speaker 5: Got, YEAH i got him one year At, portland three AT, unlv BUT i only got him averaging fifteen a game At.

00:31:28
Speaker 2: Portland oh, OKAY i give him a little more credit he. Deserves started to Debunk mike In. Rochester good, Morning. Mike what's on your mind?

00:31:35
Speaker 10: Today, well this Show dan twenty years lest you, Guys i'm five to ten with those shoes to twenty rocks true, Anyway So i'm just so upset About Jalen. Brown welckey officials get a great, Game but what do you talk About?

00:31:53
Speaker 13: Jalen are you kidding? Me like your second?

00:31:55
Speaker 3: Fiddle hate him to number? One not? Anymore but they're both getting paid the.

00:32:04
Speaker 2: SAME i think like it's what fifty million or is it sixty million fifty five? Million we'll split the. Difference, OH i just got this in from a. Source how ABOUT i take a break then we'll have time to talk about this has to do with THE nfl and their. Officials have that for you when we, Return Dan Patrick.

00:32:26
Speaker 1: Show Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio app SEARCH fsr to listen.

00:32:37
Speaker 2: LIVE i mentioned before the commercial break THAT i had some information with THE nfl and THE Nfl Referees. Association negotiations between the two on a new collective bargaining agreement have progressed to a point that the union has scheduled a ratification vote for tomorrow.

00:32:57
Speaker 3: Night, so, uh that's ALL i have on, it but that.

00:33:01
Speaker 2: They have gotten to the point where they're going to have a ratification vote for tomorrow night and hopefully we can avoid having uh substitute. Referees we did that one other time and it didn't go very. Well, Yes, paul what year was?

00:33:18
Speaker 5: That that me three or four years? Ago the replacement? Refs was it? Longer that was a wild. SEASON i remember doing this show and Every monday was like The Wild west with.

00:33:28
Speaker 2: Calls BUT i think it changed with The Aaron rodgers. Play, yes was that Against seattle and then all of a, sudden it's like we got to get the real officials. BACK i think it may have come down to that one play that kind of tipped the balance.

00:33:44
Speaker 3: There, Yes, dylan.

00:33:46
Speaker 4: It was a great built and excuse if your team, lost, though or or reason they.

00:33:50
Speaker 3: Lost because of the. Officials. Yeah.

00:33:54
Speaker 2: Uh Post draft power rankings brought to you By Liberty, mutual get a quot Voted libertymutual dot com or with your local independent.

00:34:03
Speaker 3: Agent all, right who did the most to get the? Best Tod you.

00:34:10
Speaker 14: Guys will mock, me But i'm going with My Denver.

00:34:12
Speaker 8: Broncos because round, four one hundred and eleventh pick Overall Cage, casey offensive Tackle Boise.

00:34:18
Speaker 14: State they also Got Jonah coleman running back out Of.

00:34:21
Speaker 8: Washington they picked Up Jalen waddle as far as things away from the, draft and they signed seventeen of their twenty one, unrestricted restricted or exclusive rights free.

00:34:30
Speaker 14: Agents how about?

00:34:30
Speaker 3: That how About, paul who do you think improved the? Most?

00:34:34
Speaker 5: SNEAKILY i like The. Ravens they got an offensive, lineman a defense. Lineman they got two wide, receivers two tight, ends deep deep draft and helped the.

00:34:43
Speaker 4: Offense, Dylan i'm going with The, Eagles. Dan They sag McKay lem in the first. Round they got our, Guy Eli stowers in the. Second they've obviously needed some help on the passing. Attack there got a couple offensive, Linemen tad And Cole. Payton the quarterback at A North Dakota state and maybe we see a Little Taysom hill style action with.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: Them haven't The eagles gone down that road before with a quarterback out Of North Dakota?

00:35:08
Speaker 4: State they have so have the forty nine.

00:35:11
Speaker 3: Ers. Marvin that's not, Nice, dylan but it's.

00:35:16
Speaker 6: True i'm gonna go With america's, team The New York, Jets David, bailey great, Pick Gino smith's got a couple of, Weapons Kenyon sadik out Of, Oregon Omar cooper out Of, indiana and then they got a good, cornerback another one out Of indiana And Claide Kubnick clayde Cade.

00:35:34
Speaker 3: Clubnick that's WHAT i, Said, YEAH i, Know clayde Club. Link that's a tough. One to.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: SAY i like what The chiefs. Did they they found their defensive back and they went. UP i think surprised a lot of. People but they seemed like they reinvented their, defense, reinvigorated made it. Stronger and it looks like all signs point Towards Patrick homes being.

00:36:00
Speaker 3: There maybe it started the.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Season and of course we have the big wedding With Travis kelcey And Taylor. Swift don't want to leave that. Out how many guys get invited from the.

00:36:12
Speaker 3: Team oh that's. AWKWARD i Know mahomes And Andy reid get. Invited. Ok, yeah Smart Chris, Jones, okay.

00:36:23
Speaker 6: Maybe it's got to be, TENURE i think, Yeah poull defensive.

00:36:30
Speaker 5: End george carloftis very good, player not a household, Name he's been there a. While does he make the?

00:36:34
Speaker 3: CUT i don't.

00:36:36
Speaker 5: Know i'm otor good to have at a.

00:36:38
Speaker 2: Wedding do you think that you Have Taylor swift and Uh travis just sitting down at the kitchen table and throwing out?

00:36:46
Speaker 3: Names you, Know.

00:36:49
Speaker 2: Nick, Bolton, yeah he's not gonna Make oh you, know defensive coordinator bags bags gotta make.

00:36:55
Speaker 3: It he's got to draw something. Up you dial dial up a good, Gift, Yes, todd and they got.

00:37:00
Speaker 14: To figure out the.

00:37:01
Speaker 8: Tables you can't put this hands with this uncle and this cousin with that offensive.

00:37:04
Speaker 14: Lineman doesn't want to sit with that.

00:37:06
Speaker 3: Receiver it could be with this. Celebrity, yeah Where's Selena goman's gonna say? It that's? Fun Bad bunny get? Invited? Yes Is Patrick mahomes in the wedding? Party? Yeah, yeah you'd have.

00:37:18
Speaker 5: To, Yeah, paul do you want to play over under people attending The Taylor swift?

00:37:24
Speaker 2: Wedding you mean the total total number of? Guests, well what's the line set?

00:37:32
Speaker 5: At let's go at six twenty?

00:37:34
Speaker 3: Five six hundred. People it's not a, concert.

00:37:40
Speaker 5: Okay how about three twenty?

00:37:41
Speaker 2: Five will she sing at the wedding? Reception will he sing at the wedding? Reception will his brother take his shirt?

00:37:51
Speaker 3: Off?

00:37:53
Speaker 7: Yes?

00:37:53
Speaker 3: Yes and? Yes will there be keg? Stands three twenty?

00:37:56
Speaker 5: Five is the over?

00:37:57
Speaker 10: Run all?

00:37:57
Speaker 2: Right i'm gonna go over slightly. OVER i think it's three point, fifty, Yes, marvin without. Question The kelsey's, SAYING i want that old time rock and. Roll put money on.

00:38:09
Speaker 3: That do they have a band or A dj?

00:38:14
Speaker 4: Band, no. Doubt probably someone.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: Famous oh Didn't taylor used to Date Calvin? Harris isn't he A? Dj so he's not going to be?

00:38:25
Speaker 10: There?

00:38:25
Speaker 4: Well does FAMOUS dj count as a, band like it's not just some random guy up there with a? MacBook?

00:38:31
Speaker 2: YEAH i think that it's like having a famous. Band, yeah, Yes.

00:38:36
Speaker 3: Todd would you have like a.

00:38:37
Speaker 8: Whole symphony or orchestra like The Boston pops or just some kind of big deal that would be bigger and better than anyone ever?

00:38:42
Speaker 4: Had? Play how about yo yo ma there The Trans Siberian.

00:38:47
Speaker 3: Orchestra oh all? Right?

00:38:50
Speaker 2: Uh Post Draft power rankings brought to you By Liberty. Mutual go To libertymutual dot com or check with your local independent. Agent david In. Ohio, david thanks for Holding what do you have for?

00:39:02
Speaker 14: Me, yeah you're.

00:39:03
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00:39:15
Speaker 3: Drought thank, you thank.

00:39:17
Speaker 2: You it's always got to get his cowboys shot in. There, Uh trip In, Vegas welcome, Back, Trip.

00:39:26
Speaker 13: Hey good, Morning. Dan always a pleasure to speak with. Y'all i'd like to know what you and the gang think about. Something i'm gonna have to come To fritzy's. Defense he wants mentioned Dude wivestein flavored instead of, sentence AND i know, what it's an easy mistake because he's been wipe in his mouth more than his behind because that's where all the craft's coming.

00:39:45
Speaker 2: From, wow that's pretty. Strong what where did that come? From two days in a. Row you're taking shots. Here i'm going to defend. You is nobody like? You you can't.

00:39:59
Speaker 8: Really black callers unless we Have tyler stopped making a list like on social.

00:40:02
Speaker 14: Media just hit block and then you're done with. That phone calls get.

00:40:05
Speaker 3: Through tyler knows the, numbers he knows who's calling.

00:40:08
Speaker 6: You.

00:40:08
Speaker 5: Paul did you say nobody likes, You? Fritzy, oh nobody like?

00:40:11
Speaker 2: You there's nobody like you and nobody likes.

00:40:15
Speaker 14: You who's got an issue with?

00:40:16
Speaker 3: Me for?

00:40:16
Speaker 2: Summer Uh todd? Podcast The toddcast is going to be later. Today is that?

00:40:22
Speaker 7: Right it?

00:40:23
Speaker 3: Is?

00:40:23
Speaker 2: Okay is there a theme to the todcast? Today that is the best.

00:40:28
Speaker 8: Part there is no, theme, yeah because we're just going to talk about it briefly before we get, going and Then dylan throws out some.

00:40:33
Speaker 14: Topics next thing you, know an hour goes.

00:40:35
Speaker 3: By not, planned not scripted trip In.

00:40:39
Speaker 4: Vegas you're going to be the.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: Topic.

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Wow Final hour on The. Way dave mcmanhamon he was there at The lakers game last. Night when are we Getting luca? Back Dabo sweeney takes a couple of shots At Notre. Dame you'll hear what he had to. Say more of your phone calls as. Well Final hour on This, wednesday after this