FT Postgame Reax: The World Series is tied again! Blue Jays bat blitz, LA lineup changes coming soon?
Vlad Jr. does it again and then his supporting cast brought the full court press in a 6-2 win in LA to knot the series up at 2-2. Should Dave Roberts make a lineup change and rethink his bullpen plans? We instantly react to what just happened and then ponder strategy decisions for Game 5.
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00:00:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:00:03 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going back to Toronto. We have ourselves a series. It's the FT Live Postgame Show. It's presented by Fox one. 00:00:11 Speaker 3: Kratz. Why are you looking at your watch? 00:00:14 Speaker 1: Are they gonna play some more innings? 00:00:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's half time. 00:00:18 Speaker 2: They're about to have a concert and then they're gonna come play eight nine more what concert? Justin Bieber and Gary Sheffield for. 00:00:27 Speaker 4: Cheff shifting at a sitting right next to me and recognized him first. I know Beaver and the Caps. 00:00:36 Speaker 3: We bring in the Caps. That's good, that's good. If you know, you know. Okay, let's do this. 00:00:42 Speaker 2: The Blue Jays take down the Dodgers six' to two after one of the craziest marathons we've ever seen in postseason. History momentum in? Baseball what's? Momentum you win With freddy walk? Off next Day otani coming off, nine reaching base nine, times and. 00:01:06 Speaker 3: The Blue jays punched. 00:01:08 Speaker 2: Him they got Him Bladdie junior to run homer the four run inning in the seventh, Ballgame beaver. 00:01:14 Speaker 3: Pitched. 00:01:14 Speaker 4: Well the biggest thing we have going forward as the best of three now is where the hell is The dodgers? Offense they've scored three runs and what nineteen innings now or something crazy like where'd their offense? Go Rookie betts is kind of non existent right. Now obviously With andy pie as we know that one they're talking. About but months he finally got a hit, tonight right, like where is? 00:01:40 Speaker 5: This? 00:01:40 Speaker 4: Faunted kyk hasn't been great Key k like we've seen in the. Postseason Tommy edmond has looked like not. GOOD i, Mean freddy got the home, run but you, know If freddy and Show, hey If, showy it's almost like if Show hay doesn't, hit they don't. Score and this is not the offense that we thought because, honestly like Show hey pitched well. Tonight he made the one mistake to flab but Shame biaber matched him pitch and pitch and actually pitch better than he. Did so where's The dodger? Offense If i'm A dodger, Fan i'm wondering because they. Didn't they haven't really hit in the. Postseason it's been a lot of good pitch. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: And The Blue jays have hit all. Posts seednes they do, long it is what they. Do No George springer in the, lineup no. Problem bo gets TO dh and. Krats Vladdy junior is so damn. GOOD i actually think not getting talked about about enough now because it's been the. Show hey Show Flatty junior with the clutch, knock, right you, think, okay here we. Go tony's huffing him, Puffing he's doing his. Thing he doesn't really look. Phazed used seven pitches in the first, eating But gladdy got to. 00:02:43 Speaker 3: Him man got to give it to. 00:02:45 Speaker 1: HIM i, mean the best pitch in, baseball the backup, Slider And vladdie said not Today laddie's first extra base hit in The World. Series, LIKE i think it's JUST i forget a, sixth sixth home run This World. Series obviously he's being overshadowed by a tany but right, NOW i, mean Isn't. Bladdy Isn't bladdy lining himself up to be THE mvp if The jay's win this, thing like he's he's really got to be the. Guy we talked about it today and the show about how the only way they were going to score last night is If vladdie hit a dinger and we saw how hard it was to hit, dingers and he came out tonight and, that you, know the backup slider he got it left center and never looked. 00:03:34 Speaker 4: Back that was just a hanging. SLIDER i mean that didn't do. Anything it just broke you know what that. Was that was a. Barrelfinder it was a little were gonna move a little bit this way and, weck that's the one was a. Catcher as soon as they let it, go you're, like please fell it, Off like you, know you see it and you're, like please fell it. 00:03:52 Speaker 5: Off pop it, up just miss. 00:03:53 Speaker 4: It, weck oh, man like you just what you want to literally just reach out in front of the. Hitter and sometimes we're it's almost like you want to reach out for the hitter and hope you get catchers interference so the ball doesn't go. Anywhere, no you, can't but it would be amazing if you. Could you take a broken hand right right, there so you didn't hit the two run. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: Home especially Against. FLATTY i, mean this is the big leagues and this is a top. 00:04:16 Speaker 3: Five hitter in the. Sport he's not going to miss, that not too, often. 00:04:19 Speaker 1: Not right, now not right. Now, yeah but show, hey show. Hey sometimes you hit a dude's fastball and all of a, sudden everyone else doesn't get any more. Fastballs Show hey turned that slider after that, pitch his slider turned into Show hey's frisbee slider it was or whatever sweeper or whatever he's calling. It That john was straight left. Turn after that home. Run he was, like no chance on letting that happen. Again but that, pitch if you watch, it, YEAH i get. It flatty hit it. Out but a lot of dudes who are much worse hitters Than flatty are like to do, that, like, oh jam job because they think it's gonna be a, bigger bigger break than. That And, Vladdie vladdy almost got it off the end a little, bit pulled his hands in so, far. 00:05:06 Speaker 3: And then we moved to the. 00:05:07 Speaker 2: SEVENTH i liked this note From Tom berducci calls them the fast break. Offense at times four out of those five hits in the four run seventh within the first two pitches of AN A. 00:05:19 Speaker 3: B that's a fun watch too for a fan that doesn't have a horse in the. Fight also. 00:05:24 Speaker 4: Race not only, that but it's it's contact, right it's. Singles they were like paper. Cuts the swing By Andre simenez and then this ball was rifled By. Boba, shit but it was it was like paper cup paper, cup paper. Cup but they just kept doing what they needed to. Do and then this one to the left side By. Bargery it's just like they just they just know how to, hit and they they put the ball in play and they put so much pressure on the other. Team this is what The Blue jays have, done and they do it quick in the. Count they don't mess. Around they're looking for a, pitch AND i Love. Popkins their hitting coach must tell them, like as soon as you see that, pitch if you're, ready, Fire we're not here to wait around and hope the pitcher like. Fire if you see your, pitch fire at. It AND i trust, you. Guys and they've been really good at. It and they deserve a lot of credit because it is fun to. WATCH i, mean they're doing a lot of. Things they're they're, moving, runners are going first to, third they're trying to take the extra, base they, swing they put the ball. 00:06:19 Speaker 5: Play this is fun baseball to. 00:06:20 Speaker 2: Watch, yeah And, kratz the stuff from The dodgers' bullpen is not the stuff you see from The dodgers starting. Rotation so if they're trying to get, ahead The Blue jays won't let them get. Ahead you're not going to pour in strikes and then get us to chase. Slate if you're In, toronto right that's what they're. Saying if we see something in the zone that we, like we're going after. It and they battled. Too my favorite at bat was When bonda came in right away there and LIKE aj was talking, About, JIMENEZ rbi single just kind of chucked the bat at the slider a little bit off the. Plate that was an eight pitch ab three to one that ended up being the deciding. 00:06:52 Speaker 1: Run my favorite one there Was. Barger, honestly not nothing Against. Jimenez he did a great job of battling right. There he took a he took just a bastard slider before that. PITCH i thought they were gonna try to bust them hard with a heater just because it looked like he was going to be late and then they'd get him to swing and. Miss but it was my favorite Was. Barger if you Watch barger, swings it looks like he is being, Told, hey that ball's on the. 00:07:20 Speaker 5: TEE i want you. 00:07:21 Speaker 1: To swing as hard as you, can to hit it as far as you. Can and then he goes and takes a pitch that was middle to middle, down middle away and just drives it to the through the left. Side he tried to get it through the five to six hole like he was successful at it so many. Times go scroll on my phone right, now go On. Twitter everybody's teaching this one. Swing look at my ax of. Velocity look how HARD i, Hit look how FAST i swing. It we just had an article about bat speed and all that. Stuff he had adjustability in his swing to be able to get the job done and drive the run. In that's why it's fun to. Watch that's WHY aj saying it's fun to watch because it's not just, well the pitch was, away it's probably gonna be a swing and, miss but man if he, connects it's gonna be awesome. 00:08:08 Speaker 3: Looking, yeah they can beat in a variety of. 00:08:11 Speaker 2: Ways and what about the move to pinch Hit france For lucas who was two for. Three IF i mean he ends up getting a ground BALL, rbi which in the, playoffs that's, good made it for. One but if he like hit into a double play or, something the, MEDIA i don't would have lost their. 00:08:29 Speaker 5: MIND i don't mind that. 00:08:30 Speaker 6: Move that's the time that he was going for there going for the kill, shot and he got it right right because he was going for the kill shot right there was first and, third one. 00:08:42 Speaker 4: Out france actually got jammed so bad that they couldn't turn Too and, Listen i'm gonna tell you this right, now what. 00:08:47 Speaker 1: Crowds is talking. 00:08:48 Speaker 4: About in, baseball the hardest double play to turn is a ball to where the second baseman has to go to his left or usually like the three six one three six. Three so if you can hit a, ball especially as a right handed, hitter to that right side and the second basement has to go to his, left nine times out of, ten they're just going to take the out at. First they're not going to try and turn. It and because most most guys aren't going to want to make, that two long throws usually don't equal to double play unless you're just super slow like. Me BUT i love that approach because he got, jammed he just kind of hit a six hopper to the right. Side they went. Over Tommy emmon went over and just flipped it the first and gave the run of. It it's it's just good. 00:09:27 Speaker 5: Hitting it's good it's contact and it's good. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: Hitting it was two strikes too and this comes after an evening where they had endless opportunities and didn't come. Through both sides, did, yeah but they did this. Time seventh thinning was the beginning and. 00:09:41 Speaker 3: They got it. 00:09:41 Speaker 2: Done why are you showing that? FACE i, mean there was like the most men left on base. Ever obviously it was an eighteen in, game but there were a lot of opportunities for both. 00:09:51 Speaker 1: Sides but let's make sure when we talk about that, narrative we understand who had the. Opportunities, again no shade to the guys that were in the. Lineup they were excuse, me they were Going The dodgers were going around the guys that they thought could hurt. Them and so you're gonna get a lot of, Traffic you're gonna get opportunities to have guys on base as The Blue. Jays but it's almost like The dodgers are playing themselves into those. Situations so you, KNOW i get. It you know they said tonight on you, know eleven. Innings this This dodger's bullpen was is now a vaunted bullpen because they were able to shut down this Powerful Blue jays. Lineup they were able to shut down some of the powerful guys they just had to pitch around the powerful guys through those eleven innings for the most, part so especially since Once kirk was. 00:10:48 Speaker 3: Out, okay so here's WHAT i want to. 00:10:51 Speaker 2: Do first, off just a quickie subscribe while you're watching us right, now or if you're watching us in the, morning because you want to get a little post recap of what just happened and you went to sleep right after the game because you're on The East coast and you didn't sleep much over the past twenty four. Hours give us a little subscribe that would be great baseball the way it should be. Covered foul territory shop dot com loaded with items. Too what are your thoughts on The dodgers bullpen going? Forward and do you think That Dave roberts has to get crafty with? Usage like what let me, wait let me rehash what Should Dave roberts? 00:11:26 Speaker 3: Do lineup wise and bullpen? 00:11:28 Speaker 5: Wise he didn't have a lot of. Options what's you gonna? 00:11:30 Speaker 3: Do call for? 00:11:31 Speaker 5: Pies, okay what's that do for? 00:11:33 Speaker 3: You maybe give you an extra knock or, two. 00:11:35 Speaker 5: But Call dion look? Great and is about? Tonight? 00:11:37 Speaker 4: No, Okay so i want defense Because i'm right now my team's built around. PITCHING i won my best defensive lineup and that involves pies in. Centerfield, okay now you. Can't you can't change YOUR. Dh you can't change your first. Baseman you can't change your. Shortstop you can't change your third. Baseman you can't change your ray. Fielder and he, REALLY i, mean what are his? Options he doesn't really have a lot of. Options where's he gonna go and call for? PIES i, mean, okay that means keyk is still in the lineup and he's not. Hitting so what do you do with their Right you can't change your, Catcher Will. Smith you're not taking him out of the lineup, Now, Edmond you're gonna take out for uh huss And? 00:12:15 Speaker 5: Kim all? 00:12:15 Speaker 4: Right so then, Bullpen, okay bullpen is a little more tricky, now. Bullpen, listen you Hope Blake snow goes seven or eight innings and you go right To rokie. 00:12:23 Speaker 3: Tomorrow but that's what you, Say Dave. 00:12:25 Speaker 5: Roberts if you don't pop, up you got. It i'm. 00:12:27 Speaker 4: SORRY i Know Joe davis put him to. Bed the other night there Was kershaw's last. Game you might have to See Clayton kershaw gets you through an. Inning Em shean's gonna have to be. Big bond has been. Okay you know he's been, okay not, great but he's been okay. 00:12:39 Speaker 5: If you get the right. 00:12:40 Speaker 4: Matchup glass, now, no you're not using glass. Now you're not using glass, now you're not Using alma. Motor you're not using glass now because you got to win two more. Games so you gotta think long. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: Term but no glass now on a. 00:12:50 Speaker 5: Throad. 00:12:51 Speaker 4: Ack, NO i wouldn't do that to, Him, Okay kershaw would be the. Guy AND i, think you, know, what what do you do With blake trying and he's he hasn't been a to get anybody out right. NOW i, mean but, honestly the options Are san To suzaki And Blake snell And kershaw to maybe get a left hear to it Or bond to. ME i Mean dryer pitched, okay BUT i mean he's gonna pitch him three days in a. Row they're extremely. Limed you know, What Dave roberts is counting On Blake snow give him seven or eight. 00:13:18 Speaker 5: Tomorrow that's he's. 00:13:19 Speaker 1: COUNTING i have a. LINEUP i have a lineup. Question we Saw yamamoto, Saying, okay you know, What i'm gonna go down, there like screw. It it, might it might, hurt But i'm gonna go and. Pitch i'm gonna give you WHAT i. Got Maybe i'm going To Tommy edmond And i'm, Saying, tommy how does that ankle? Feel we have a day off After game. Five i'm throwing in center, field so we still have we still have great defense in. CENTER i don't think it's the fact that the ankle is slowing him down out. THERE i think it's the recovery from WHAT i was. Reading and then you throw The Miguel rojas at second. Base i'm not saying it's an offensive, upgrade but it's a change in the offense that he's able to do some THINGS i think Maybe pajes isn't able to, do turn the lineup, over buying a guy, over and you still have great defense you, STILL i, MEAN i Think rojas is legit. Defensively, yeah if you're looking for, something, okay but who's your best defensive center. 00:14:23 Speaker 3: Fielder It's pie's, RIGHT i would, think So, OKAY i don't. 00:14:26 Speaker 5: KNOW i, mean Is Mickey rojas that big of AN i, MEAN i know HE'S i don't. Know is he just? 00:14:30 Speaker 1: Offensively, NO i. DON'T i don't think. So but you need something? 00:14:35 Speaker 5: New what about? Then why? 00:14:35 Speaker 4: Not then why don't you Put kim in there and try something completely off the rail and then Put edmund in centerfielder and like him bought and steal and. 00:14:43 Speaker 7: Try to make this a crazy. Game, yeah it's a spark plug to. Me he's, like they're but they have two of those. Dead who's the guy that came in to play center, Field Dean? DEAN i mean you have him And kim that are basically and then you throw roved in. There you have three spots on your roster that are basically. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: Nothing but because you're not Putting morvet in unless some happens A, smith you have to pincher in for, him and you're Putting dean in. Centerfield you're hoping he doesn't get a, beat and you're basically Using kim as a pinch. 00:15:09 Speaker 5: Runner somewhere along the, Way, wait. 00:15:12 Speaker 1: This is what The Blue jays. Did Blue jays did it with just their. People Blue jays did that for eleven innings last. Night like that's it's kind of the same. Thing and you saw what, Happened, like there is a stark drop off when you talk About World series teams and the guys that are sitting on their. Bench that's WHY i have a tough time when teams are, like, yeah we're gonna make it to the playoffs and we have nineteen position players and they all play, different you, know different positions and all this, Stuff like you need legit stars because there's a drop off when you go from the stars and the starters on a really good team and you're more hoping somebody gets a. 00:15:51 Speaker 5: Hit you hope if you Put. 00:15:53 Speaker 1: Miguel rojas and he gets in a position where he can BUN i think maybe he might put together good at. BAD i, Mean pies is a lot of a lot of nothing right now because he's swinging at a lot so he's not even he's not even. Walking and it's the same fly ball on every. Pitch if they throw him a fastball that's middle, end it's a two hopper off of their dugout down the third base, line and if it's a breaking, ball it's a fly ball to the right. Field so it's the same swing that's not getting any production out of. Him and maybe that's the switch up that you need without lowering your. 00:16:30 Speaker 5: Defense you just don't have any. Mode. 00:16:33 Speaker 3: Right the options are not, great aren't. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: Great that's where THEY i, mean they're hoping That piees runs into one at some. Point he had twenty seven homers in this yet they're just hoping he runs into one. Eventually that's kind of where they're at with. HIM i, mean there's a good AND i agree with, You, kratch it's the. SAME i watch him hit And i'm, like can we just try something? Different, LIKE i don't, know try anything, different because what he, said every time they throw him in and he pulls it fell and then they throw him something away and he just hits a weak fly ball to the right fielder and You i'm literally sitting her, going can we ever just try to hit a ground ball to the second, basement like taking it back two outs nobody on your first bat and just be, LIKE i am gonna just hit a ground ball to the second, basement keep. 00:17:11 Speaker 5: My head down and just try something completely. Different it might, work and you might hit a piss missile. Rayfield you never, know and oh then, here oh, MAN i got to hit let's. Go but it's the. 00:17:20 Speaker 4: Same that's What's that's WHAT i think is frustrating for not only, us but For dodger fans and For Dave roberts watching Pot He's. 00:17:26 Speaker 3: God, yeah And dave's been vocal about. It no he. 00:17:28 Speaker 4: Doesn't dave ain't Heien, no he ain't hiden. It he said this is the. Thing but let's, ALSO i, mean we gotta Talk Shane. 00:17:34 Speaker 2: Bieber, wait WHAT i want to do, is, yes let's Talk Shane. Bieber and we have a nice graphic all worked. Up we're gonna put out there quickie, break sixty, seconds we're, back and then we'll go, strong commercial free the rest of the. Way, hey if you want to take care of, yourself your body and everything that goes into, health, fitness and, Nutrition superpower provides crats WHAT i would call the pro experience for the everyday, person one. 00:18:02 Speaker 1: Hundred percent super. Easy you get your lab test results back and you can streamline exactly what you're deficient. In you can, Say, okay this is what the results told. Me i'm gonna go ahead and maybe look for that in a supplement which they. Provide i'm gonna go ahead and look at that in my daily daily workouts which they. 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CREDIT i Know vlad's getting the headlines because he hit the home, run But Shane bieber needs to be talked about because of what he gave The Blue jays tonight and he. Matched not only did he not Show, hey he out pitched Show hey and he dominated their lineup. 00:19:21 Speaker 5: Again he gave up the one run on a sackfly but here's his. Numbers. 00:19:25 Speaker 4: Look first game, bad second game, good third game, bad fourth game, good every other game boom. 00:19:31 Speaker 5: Boom we talked about it with, Him we talked about it on. Here Ken rosenthal talked about it on his show the other. Day but he deserves a lot of. Credit. 00:19:37 Speaker 4: Man they had the biaber fever In, Toronto Justin. BIEBER i don't know if he was at the, game but he needs to give that man a. Hug they need to have somebody needs to get the two biabers. 00:19:47 Speaker 2: Together, yeah And shane can tell him how many times he's gotten DM's or, something being, like, HEY i want to do a. 00:19:54 Speaker 3: Collab can we do? 00:19:55 Speaker 5: It i'd say. Yes IF i Was, San i'd say. Yes he's a handsome. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: Fellow, yeah good. 00:20:00 Speaker 5: MUSTASH i don't know IF i love the, mustache but he's a handsome. Fellow. 00:20:03 Speaker 3: YEAH i. Agree, Yeah i'm not rocking the. Mustache i'd rather. 00:20:06 Speaker 5: Not it's. 00:20:07 Speaker 3: Fine we don't really he had. 00:20:08 Speaker 5: That you know what he. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: Had first of, all he had fastball command. Tonight but you know what Else you can just tell when you watch him pitch if his fastball or his breaking ball looks like he gets about halfway there and then just goes. Whoop it's gonna be a long knife for the, hitters like when it's kind of loopy and it doesn't have almost like a stop like The Bugs. Bunny when you used to Watch Bugs, bunny it would stop and the guy would swing three, times and the next DAY i. 00:20:29 Speaker 5: Would swing three, times it'd stop. 00:20:30 Speaker 4: Again like his slider looks like he gets about halfway, there stops and just turns when he has that one. Going and it's a long knife for the, hitters because what do you look? For because he just goes and he runs one high heater and then he throws a little slower breaking ball and then a smaller breaking, ball little, cutter and then he goes. Left turn you're, Going i'll. 00:20:48 Speaker 3: Try and look. 00:20:48 Speaker 2: UP i, mean the fastball percentage had to be the four seamer percentage had to be super. 00:20:54 Speaker 5: Low now there you. 00:20:55 Speaker 2: Go, Oh i'm looking at where everyone's. At in The World, Series. 00:21:00 Speaker 5: Muki batts three for. 00:21:01 Speaker 4: Nineteen next months he three for, Seventeen Tommy edmond three for, Eighteen kik three for. 00:21:06 Speaker 1: Sixteen, Yikes mooki was before his last. Hit he was three for his last thirty four in the. POSTSEASON i, mean everyone's getting on Pa, hees but, REALLY i, mean you're you're pitching around the best player on the planet for like a stretch of fifteen at bats In Shohio tani to get To. Mookie that's where that's that's the Biggest you know that that's a huge. Play but to, ME i Mean Bieber bieber WAS i was trying to see when he overlapped With klueber In, cleveland AND i think there's there's something strange about his breaking. BALL i THINK i don't even know what they put. It put it down as if it's a if it's a sweeper or. Slider, yeah they overlapped rate at the beginning Of bieber's, career and it just feels like he took he took his he took something from his breaking ball Because klueber used to call it a, curveball but it was really a, slider AND i think you see that same. Action i'm not saying they're the, same Because klueber's in his heyday was a bugs, bunny ridiculous, pitch BUT i am saying that there's something, about you, know being around guys that know how to spin it and when you're coming back From Tommy. John if, that if you're feeling good and you can spin it like. That good For. Shane good for the fact that he can go and pack all of his stuff up and just make sure he's got some pants and a pullover for the rest of the, series BECAUSE i don't need anything. 00:22:41 Speaker 5: Else out of. 00:22:41 Speaker 3: Him no Bullpen game. 00:22:43 Speaker 1: Seven, POSSIBLY i don't think they asked him. TO i don't think they ask him. 00:22:49 Speaker 3: Too why because he's gonna be a free? 00:22:52 Speaker 5: Agent? 00:22:54 Speaker 1: No because this. 00:22:57 Speaker 5: What do we? 00:22:57 Speaker 1: Got? Oh, wait, nope today's the bad. One you don't have time for a bad. One that's what happens in bullpen. Games you get one guy that's a bad. One he's got to face three, hitters and all of a, sudden you're, like, CRAP i knew we shouldn't have gone to. Him we have so many other. 00:23:12 Speaker 3: Options it actually makes me love the three batter minimum. 00:23:15 Speaker 4: Role even he came up tonight when they pinch hit when the Ty, france remember it came. 00:23:20 Speaker 3: UP i love it came. 00:23:22 Speaker 4: Up it, Changed it changes just the, uh the strategicy of the. 00:23:27 Speaker 2: Something Joe madden hates, it But i'm, like that's because you're a, manager and you want to take that dude. Out i'm a freaking fan AND i just want to watch your. Decision have to live with it for three. 00:23:37 Speaker 1: Batters, Hey, jay when you watch when you Watch, pahes do you think he could do a Ty france type of swing or A Addison barger type of? 00:23:48 Speaker 4: Swing, Barger he's closer To barger than he. Is he's closer To barger's normal, swing which is just swing as hard as you, can not the swing he used tonight to go the other, way but, no he cut. 00:23:59 Speaker 1: It he's but he's. 00:24:00 Speaker 4: Not EVEN i, know but is He is he capable of that right? Now, no because he's not even. Trying he's not trying to even do. 00:24:06 Speaker 5: That he's not. 00:24:07 Speaker 4: Trying he's not trying to cut it down at. All he's just trying to go deep every. Swing and you, know what's the definition even sanded doing the same thing over and over. Again Result IF i just keep hitting pop ups to right, field damn, Sure, No i'm gonna try something else at some, point like If i'm just If i'm up there AND i just hit flat, bottle, left flat, bottle left flat bottle, left like ten of bats in a row or punch. Out i'm damn sure trying something. Else i'm gonna try and roll over like a song. BITCH i Mean i'm. Trying i'm swinging Like i'm literally like falling over trying to hit. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: It because it's been a. Lot it's been a long. Time it's been the entire month. 00:24:43 Speaker 4: It's been since it's been About, no it's been. Longer not, really because you can. Throw in the end of the regular, season he wasn't very good. 00:24:49 Speaker 2: Either it can go Really, yeah it's gotten really bad and it's gone for a long. Time one more to shout out on The Blue jay, Side Chris bassett to shut, up a new, Weapon circle of. 00:25:04 Speaker 3: Trust. 00:25:04 Speaker 5: Guy he's not pitching tomorrow. THOUGH i Bet i'll have tomorrow. 00:25:07 Speaker 3: Off just because he's done two. 00:25:09 Speaker 4: Days in a row and he's a starter. Again they got to win two more. Games it's kind of the same as The. Dodge you gotta win two more. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: Games he's their second best. 00:25:16 Speaker 5: Reliever, now ye mind Who Louis arland every Day. 00:25:21 Speaker 2: LOUIS i cannot wait to interview him in the off. Season technically like Big. Spot it's Big, spot like game on the, line like Your Andre's munos moment, right It's Jeff hoffman for swinging miss. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: Right, yeah but then your setup pretty. 00:25:36 Speaker 5: Good it's pretty good, option pretty good, option pretty good. OPTION i like, it just not. Tomorrow he won't pitch. 00:25:44 Speaker 4: Tomorrow i'm sorry they're going to give him the day off because it'll get two days off and he can pitch the last two if they need him. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: To oh, yeah, yeah there are enough arms. There, yeah he shouldn't be. 00:25:53 Speaker 5: PITCHING i mean If Louis orland pitches, tomorrow then we mean. 00:25:56 Speaker 3: No, Correct louis pitching every. 00:25:58 Speaker 5: DAY i don't know. Why they just didn't live finished that game. 00:26:01 Speaker 3: Today, yeah why why Does louis have to be in there? TODAY i mean he finished, it so it can't totally. Complain but the only one to get. It he claims that he doesn't feel. Sore. 00:26:15 Speaker 4: Ever its sometimes you don't even feel it in your. Arm it's more in your legs and you're just. Tired and if you watch, him his location slowly is getting, worse like he was like. 00:26:24 Speaker 5: Phoohoohoohoo now it's going to like pooh pooh pew. 00:26:28 Speaker 1: All over the. Place, yeah but let's not let's not get. It twist. It it's not Like Louis, varland is Like Eradis chapman from the regular. Season Louis varland has been giving up some. Dangers jazz clipped. THEM i, Know. Judge the pitch To judge was was, like nobody should hit that, Out but like some dudes have been Hitting Louis. Varland when he first came, over they thought he was tipping any kind of and he kind of moved it back like they're they're fully. Committed it really is one of those things where they don't care what the results. Are tonight he gave up another, Run like they don't care what the results are With. Louisvarland they're, like you're, pitching you know why because you got a rubber. 00:27:09 Speaker 3: Arm And ray postseason book. 00:27:13 Speaker 1: BOTH i knew there's somebody else that was. Forgetting he's giving up some. 00:27:17 Speaker 2: Daggers he has, indeed all, right you know what to do Last slick's. Year we've got a whole show tomorrow where we're gonna bring it and talk about The Big game five coming. Up but early thoughts going back To Blake snell And Tray's. 00:27:35 Speaker 4: Savage get a second, look and everybody that's gotten that second look has done better against your savage And Blake snell didn't have his best stuff in game, one so we'll see how he. Does but you, know you savage, again look what The yankees do when they. 00:27:49 Speaker 5: Saw him the second. Time The mariners got a little bit better the second time against. Him it's it's not That. 00:27:54 Speaker 4: I'm saying he can't go out and pitch really, well but it's it's he's a young guy with only a few. 00:27:58 Speaker 5: Starts we'll see how The rodgers make adjustments. Zone AND i know, this if he has that split going from up here where he throws, like nobody can hit. 00:28:05 Speaker 2: It if not tight tight. Leash in my, mind bullpen, game you can. 00:28:11 Speaker 4: Know who you goers still down Passet stone two days by the orrsh has a nice first. 00:28:17 Speaker 5: Pitch holy. 00:28:17 Speaker 3: Crap, okay but besides those, guys is. 00:28:21 Speaker 5: See Orl hrscheizer's first. Pitch what do you think he pounced like in the? Grass it just showed it yard. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: Dart it was a lawn. 00:28:31 Speaker 5: Dart looked like one of them New darvish SLIDERS i used to have to knock. 00:28:34 Speaker 2: Down, okay besides, him, Though i'm just, saying when you have the off day in front of, you, oh. 00:28:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, scott this looks like you trying to throw hold. On i'm readywinding this For Scott watches, like orl your a legend. Watches you're gonna Hurt, Kershaw like what are we? 00:28:51 Speaker 5: Doing good? 00:28:52 Speaker 3: Thing? 00:28:52 Speaker 5: KERSHAW i thought he was a catcher for a. Second block that thing, up Poor. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: Earl. 00:28:59 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Anyways. 00:29:01 Speaker 3: Polar bounced his. 00:29:03 Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, Uh Joe carter bounced HIS i. 00:29:08 Speaker 2: Feel like some guys that's hit at a certain age and it's. Okay what's the age where it's okay to bounce? 00:29:14 Speaker 5: It never come? On ever throw it? High at least if you miss, high people, say, man he's still got a good. 00:29:20 Speaker 4: Arm but if you bounce, it you just never you can realize be like, wow never he was, overheated. 00:29:27 Speaker 2: Overcooked, okay, Wait SO i just want to go over what a bullpen game could look, like unless you Think i'm totally. 00:29:32 Speaker 3: OFF i think If trey's, savage you, know gets through. 00:29:36 Speaker 2: The lineup one time and then they got a couple of, KNOCKS i Think schneids might pull him in the third or. 00:29:41 Speaker 3: FOURTH i think it's. 00:29:42 Speaker 5: Possible where's he? Go so just through four and two thirds? 00:29:49 Speaker 2: Pitch two days in a, Row Sir anthony De minguz, Okay Brandon fisher for, Two Fluidy hoffman, LITTLE i, mean And varlin that's. Six, okay you can mix and match with all those. Guys they've done it. 00:30:03 Speaker 3: Before that's. 00:30:04 Speaker 1: SIX i hate when people say it's a must win. Game but, sorry you're not Beating you're not Being yamamoto right, Now like IF i See yamamoto on the, radar if he's on the. Horizon to, ME i GOTTA i have to win this. Game this is a must win, game Or yamamoto's closing me. Out i'm NOT i think of that as a. Player i'm thinking that right now As i'm looking at. It to, me tomorrow night is a must win game for The Blue. 00:30:37 Speaker 5: Jays they have to win. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: IT i know you just had to win one to get back To, toronto but to, me that's like the neat Story i'm going right now UNLESS i get convinced until the show tomorrow that it's a must win game for The Blue jays if they want to win. 00:30:51 Speaker 5: The World series and not just get one more game In. 00:30:54 Speaker 2: Toronto so you think either The dodgers Win game five and Then game, six or The Blue jays Win game, Five dodgers Win game, six and then we got A game. 00:31:05 Speaker 1: Seven nobody's shown, me nobody just like The dodgers, lineup just like The dodgers, lineup hasn't shown me that they're gonna like put together a lot of. Hits nobody's shown me that they're LIKE i think we figured Out. Yamamoto besides like a first inning and then maybe like one batter into the second. Inning then he's just Like i'm. 00:31:31 Speaker 3: Cruising they're very different. Offenses m. 00:31:36 Speaker 5: H i Want game seven, THOUGH i WANT i Want max class Now. 00:31:40 Speaker 4: TORONTO i think it'd be pretty pretty Pretty otanian doing whatever he. 00:31:48 Speaker 3: Wants the pitch out of the bullpen he. Wants he wants The. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: Dodgers his dream Is dodgers up four to, Three game, seven ninth, Inning otani to close it. 00:31:59 Speaker 5: Out he wants that flat flat, up flat, up flat, Up. 00:32:05 Speaker 3: That's what he. Wants if a tiny's closing it. 00:32:10 Speaker 5: Out, yes when you went up one, NOTHING i bet you thought the game was. Over the Name vlad freaking. WHACKED i. 00:32:16 Speaker 1: DIDN'T i didn't actually Had. Vlad, NORMALLY i go two, LOCKS i go two of my own, locks And i'll send him my SLIP i Had Vlad flad total bases more than a. Half, gosh darn, it freaking. 00:32:33 Speaker 3: Just bat with your. Chestocrats and on that, NOTE i, KNOW i. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: Know on that, note we'll be back one o'clock Fil territory as, Usual Ken, Rosenthal Joe, davis hopefully hopefully a third to be named. Later and should we try to Get Mary, brown should See Mary brown about business of baseball of these? 00:33:00 Speaker 5: Games? 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Poppy, yeah By fox. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: One Tell poppy whatever interviews he's done outside of his day drob right now are not as important for multiple. 00:33:10 Speaker 5: Reasons tell him. 00:33:11 Speaker 2: That text, him just say, hey if you've done any like other random hits we. 00:33:17 Speaker 5: Got we're waiting On. 00:33:19 Speaker 3: Jeter we're going down the lineup. 00:33:21 Speaker 1: Here, yeah we'll Tell poppy that it's swing. Completo he's coming on swing, completto the complete. Swing so then he'll then he'll be, like, oh, hey keep us all. 00:33:32 Speaker 3: That's The chapman podcast that he went on the Other, yeah all. 00:33:38 Speaker 2: Right on that, note we can show the fancy little thing For game five postgame show there it is savage a ball to start the year now his Second World series. Start Blake, snell this is what they signed him. 00:33:57 Speaker 3: For it's the good. 00:33:58 Speaker 2: Stuff it's a really on, series so enjoy. It but before, it you've GOT. Ft after, it you've GOT. Ft everyone gets some. 00:34:07 Speaker 5: Rest, True i'm still trying to catch up from. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: Yesterday See tom is so well rested because until four in the. 00:34:16 Speaker 5: MORNING i. 00:34:16 Speaker 3: Know they don't have games like that in the, end. 00:34:18 Speaker 5: Like Kevin burkhardt's to day ON, ft Like tom Is. 00:34:22 Speaker 2: Tom tom Is, tom and also he picked the right. Sport they're never gonna have eighteen inning LEVEL nfl. Game there's no six and a half HOUR nfl. Games thanks, everyone