#334 - When Does Gun Gear STOP Mattering? (Expert Analysis)

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Hi there and welcome to the guns
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the world of shooting.

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Of course, I'm your host, Brent
Weed, and I'm joined by my

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co-host Roy Huntington.

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And we're going to cover some
good stuff today.

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So Roy, let's get started.

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Uh, how's it going?

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I'm just I want to get started.

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Okay.

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Because we have some stuff to
say today.

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We do, we do.

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And, uh, this is a topic that
kind of came from.

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It's kind of a combination
topic.

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And I think it's a important
thing to talk about.

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And we're going to talk about
when does gear stop mattering?

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And this is kind of a theme we

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have talked about a lot here on

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this program.

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But I thought let's drill down
specifically into it today.

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And the topic itself.

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What I'm saying here is, as we
have.

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If you've watched any of our

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previous episodes, is at some

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point we all upgrade our gear

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and we all have the mistaken

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belief.

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Even at my age and Roy's age,

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where we think, you know, if I

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just buy that holster, that

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optic, that scope, that master

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blaster five thousand, suddenly

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I will be Robbie Latham and, uh,

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Lena Misclick.

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And it never works out that way.

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So we're going to kind of

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analyze where it falls on the

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sweet spot and, uh, kind of our,

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our take on what we've seen over

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many, many decades of, of

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shooting.

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So Roy, uh, gear does matter,
but it doesn't matter that much.

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Is that a about as an ambiguous

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statement as I could possibly

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make?

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I know you're exactly right.

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I mean, you know, if you gave I
don't know if you gave the

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average decent shooter.

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I know even if they have higher

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end equipment, if you gave them

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a box stock, Glock pistol or a

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box stock, you fill in the

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blank.

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Maybe even like a high point.

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And you had them shoot the
weekend match.

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I bet you they would do really
well.

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Yeah.

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You know, I mean, I a few

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percentage points below maybe

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what they normally would have

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scored, you know, but if you

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take another shooter who's a

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beginning shooter, uh, and you

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give him that competitor's high

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end fancy ass double stack, red

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dot scoped, you know, pistol,

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the the beginning shooter is not

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going to shoot really any

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better.

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You know, I mean, they're still
gonna miss they're still going

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to fumble their reloads.

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They're still going to do all
that kind of stuff.

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So I mean, I equate it to tool
usage.

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I think virtually everyone
watching or listening to this is

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a tool user.

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It's just because that's what we
do, right?

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You know, and I first started

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doing lathe work and machine

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work.

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Oh, I know, forty years ago.

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Right.

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Well, I started with a little

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tiny unimat lathe, and I had no

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idea what I was doing, and I

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messed everything up as I

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learned it.

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I began to understand how the

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machine works better, and my

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hand eye coordination skills got

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better.

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And then I realized the machine
was limiting what I wanted to do

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and could do.

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So I bought a bigger, better
one, right?

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And at first I couldn't really

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use the machine to its full

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ability.

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Uh, you know, and I was, I was

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wasting the machines time kind

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of, you know, I would turn it

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on.

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You could hear it groan and say,
oh, great.

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He's what's he gonna mess up
this time?

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You know, I'll get one of those
fingers if I can.

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I know that's the thing.

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And but yet, you know, twenty
five years goes by or something

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and I, I, you reach a point
where you realize you're working

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this machine at its limits, you
know, uh, and, and your skill

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set is good enough that it's
like you want you want better.

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Like now I can make use of it.

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So a couple of years ago, I
bought a really, really nice

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lathe and milling machine.

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And it was so satisfying because
it was, it allowed me to do that

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extra kind of like five percent.

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You know, it's, it's, it's more
accurate.

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It runs a little smoother.

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It's more predictable.

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It gives me, you know,

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information I didn't have

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before.

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And shooting is exactly the same
way.

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And I know it's like people

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accuse us of beating this into

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the dirt, but it's in the

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comments constantly.

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What gun should I buy?

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I want to participate in weekend
matches.

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And I don't know, this guy has a

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five thousand dollar nineteen

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eleven.

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Do I need to have that in order
to compete?

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You know, you've heard him.

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You got all the same comments
and questions that I do.

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Uh, and then they almost don't
want to believe you when you say

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that's absolutely true.

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Yeah.

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You really don't need to do
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Well, you know, the guy at the
gun store said that I, you know,

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I, I would be shooting myself in
the foot, literally and

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figuratively if I just bought an
entry level, you know, gun.

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And it's like, you can't you I
mean, you can't explain that.

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It's why I like to teach women
because when women are women,

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often it's really interesting.

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We're getting more and more
women watch our videos and, and

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listen to the YouTube, uh, you
know, our stuff here.

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And, but most of them are a
little older.

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And when they ask a question

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like, hey, I want to go squirrel

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hunting.

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And I'm not sure which gun I
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And if I tell them, oh, well,

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just go get yourself this simple

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entry level savage Bolt action

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twenty two with an affordable

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scope.

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They go like this.

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They go, oh, okay, yeah.

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And then they go do it.

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And then usually a month or two

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later, I get a comment back

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saying, wow, Roy, you were

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exactly right.

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It's so interesting.

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I'm learning how to use it now.

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And I can see someday I may want
a better gun, right?

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Yeah.

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No.

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If. Yeah, if we male egotistical
idiots would only just do the

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same thing, we'd be all right.

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Yeah.

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Well, there was a point I wanted
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further out of the gate.

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And that is this is sort of kind
of directed at the new shooter,

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but it applies to every single
solitary one of us.

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And we've we've talked about
this before, that I still fall

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prey to it.

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I get a press release.

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You know, we get, uh, fifty to
one hundred a day, both of us.

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So anything and everything under

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the sun is coming our way

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saying, please, you know, try

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this.

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And and most of them would be

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kind enough to at least send it

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on a loan basis so we could try

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it.

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So you've got to think, okay, is

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that something my audience

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wants?

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Is that something I'm interested
in?

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And could I effectively test it
and get a meaningful way?

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And I still fall prey to that,
that, oh, that's kind of cool.

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And I've got little alarm bells
that go off because I think,

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okay, is it really cool or is it
just new and unique?

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And that's, that's the part that
I'm enjoying or, uh, considering

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important as opposed to will it
solve my problem?

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Which is truly the basic
question you need to be asking

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of all of your gear and tools
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Will this solve my problem
better?

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Or at least as good as something

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more expensive or less

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expensive?

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So don't when you hear us, we'll

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talk a lot about, uh, newer

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shooters, less experienced

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shooters in this episode, but it

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applies to every ding dang

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single one of us that's in this

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audience because, uh, especially

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the guys, we all fall prey to

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it.

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And I gotta say, uh, we need to

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have a mea culpa, uh, moment

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here that it's kind of our fault

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as members of the, the gun

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press, the whole thing is

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basically built on promoting new

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product.

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Um, and that's one of the things
that I do think Roy and I and

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FMG publications, which we're
still part of, uh, have kind of

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railed against that.

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It's, it's the shooter, not the

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gun or the gear or the holster

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or whatever.

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But, uh, you know, we don't

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ignore new gear and we don't

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ignore increases in technology,

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but buying something just for

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the sake of buying it and new,

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uh, we've been pretty guilty of

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that.

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Uh, and it still goes on and I

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frankly think it's getting

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worse.

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So, you know, as an educated
consumer, when you're reading

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online gun mags, uh, especially
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it's, it's okay to get
information there, but, but be

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educated and think, why are they
talking about this?

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If they mention the product name
seventy two times in a four

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minute video, that should be a
clue to thinking people.

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So I've given you about fifteen

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threads there, Roy, so I'll be

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interested to see where you go

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with it.

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Well, one thing I think we do

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and I know I demanded it excuse

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me when I was editor of

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Handgunner, is that we could

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talk about all the new stuff,

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because that's why they buy the

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magazine.

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That's why they tune into the
YouTube channel.

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That's why where they want to
see what's new.

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But it was always important that

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the delivery wasn't, hey, here's

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this cool new thing and you need

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it, right?

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The delivery was here's this
cool new thing.

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It does this and this and this
and this.

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Or if any of these features and
benefits are things that you

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think might benefit you, well,
then here's one.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Uh, I mean, because it, I equate
it.

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I'm going to go back to tool
use.

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When I started woodworking
twenty years ago, I went out and

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I bought all kinds of tools that
I didn't need.

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And I thought I needed them
because you look at it and you

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think, oh, that looks cool,
I'll, I'll be able to use that.

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And then as my experience grew,
I realized that the only tools I

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bought eventually were tools
that I actually needed to do the

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job, you know?

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So if I, if I was building a

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table and I needed a special

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router bit, I bought the special

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router bit.

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I didn't buy the fifty bit set
and which I had done before.

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Sorry, Roy.

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Guilty.

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Oh, I know we all are.

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I mean, I've got like, this one

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hundred bit super big in a

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wooden crate, you know, router

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bit set that I bought twenty

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years ago.

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And I think I've used like maybe
eight of them.

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Yeah.

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All the time.

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You know, those are the ones you
use all the time.

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But shooting is exactly the same
way.

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And I think if you, as you say,
just because they say, hey,

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here's this really cool, neat
new thing, uh, they do tend to

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want to make you get passionate
and excited and get that

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endorphin dump and think that,
oh, I need that, you know, but,

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and so what I caution people to
say to do is you bought your

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basic entry level gun.

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Now you've been practicing with
it.

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You're learning how to use it.

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You're beginning to hit the
target.

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You haven't shot yourself in the
foot.

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The the indoor range hasn't
banned you from shooting there.

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So you're doing pretty good.

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Yeah, we all know these people.

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And yeah, now when you find
yourself, it's like, you know,

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when I draw from my holster, I,
I wish I could get a better grip

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on the gun, you know?

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Okay.

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Well, now then, let's look at
holsters.

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You know, you don't just buy the

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first holster that you see on

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Amazon.

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Yeah.

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Now you know what you're looking
for, right?

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So you look at reviews.

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You look at what people say
about it.

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Hey, this holster gives me a

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much better grip than I ever had

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before.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Well that's good.

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So now you're buying something
that actually improves on, uh, a

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technique that you have that you
want improvement on.

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And so let's say you're shooting
and you find yourself after a

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little while that you're, the
sights are not working for you

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as well as they could be
working, you know, maybe you

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need bigger, bolder sights.

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And so then you, so you go to
bigger, bolder sights.

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I the perfect, uh, I can equate
this perfectly to something.

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If anyone out there is a scuba

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diver, I know you are, I am, I'm

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sure there's a lot of people out

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here.

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Well, I vividly remember the and
I remember the instructor

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because he was really funny.

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He knew exactly what was going
to happen.

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We're all on the edge of the
pool.

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We're, you know, we're all
geared up.

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We we've been told all the
safety things.

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We've been practicing breathing
on the edge of the pool.

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And then he said, all right, now

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I just want you to go and go

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under the water and clear your

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noses and just sit there for a

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minute.

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And so.

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So you do.

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And what do you think?

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You go, oh my God, I'm breathing
underwater.

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Oh, yep.

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Oh my God, oh my God.

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And you look around and
everyone's got big wide eyes

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behind their mask.

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And bubbles are coming out in
big streams and everything.

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Right?

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You know, we've all been there.

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So. And then after a couple
minutes, he goes down and taps

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you on the shoulder and we come
up and he it goes, fun, huh?

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It's like, yeah.

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He said, all right, now you know
what to expect.

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Now let's get down to business.

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And so in a microcosm, the
shooting is the same way.

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You know, it's like because
we've seen it.

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A guy buys his first gun or he
rents a gun and they has real

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bullets and he loads the
magazine, you know, and this is

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not a video game now, right?

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And he puts it into the gun and
racks the slide.

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And it's like, oh my gosh, this,
you know, I'm breathing

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underwater, you know, and and
then he pulls the gun up and

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there's a guy holding his arm so
he doesn't shoot himself or the

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wall and he pulls the trigger
and the gun recoils.

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And he's like, oh my God, oh my
God, I'm shooting.

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I'm shooting.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Well, he should not go out
Monday and buy a five thousand

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dollars nineteen eleven right?

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Because he has absolutely no
idea what he needs or wants.

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I was going to say my first
lesson in the pool.

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And what do you do at the end of
the lesson?

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You put away your gear, get
everything cleaned up, and then

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you walk out through the shop.

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I free these and I want to buy
that.

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And what's the most expensive BC
and regulator and yeah, yeah,

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charge card gets maxed out.

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I bought diving gear that I

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never used, you know, I mean,

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I'll be honest with you, after

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I, when I was quit diving on the

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police department, I had this

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like raggedy old wetsuit with

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tears.

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Yeah.

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I had a soft white belt.

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Remember those where you put
lead shot in it, right?

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Yeah.

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I had a soft white belt that I

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had stitched up a half a dozen

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times.

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Yep.

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You know, my BC was worn, my
mask was worn, you know, and I

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could walk right through a
diving store and see all the

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fancy stuff in the world.

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And it didn't interest me at all
because what I had worked fine.

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Yeah.

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You know, and you know, you you
raise an interesting point.

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I'm going sidebar here.

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When we buy stuff and you go to
the range, you go to the dive

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site or whatever.

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At least with me, I always look

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at the guy with the kind of gear

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that's not in disrepair, but

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it's obviously been really well

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used.

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And you know, they call it
salty.

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Your fatigues are coated in salt
and worn.

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And on one hand, I've got all
this shiny new stuff.

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And to me that just screamed,
oh, he's a newbie, you know, he

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doesn't know what he's doing.

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But that guy.

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And whether he knew what he was

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doing, at least his gear was old

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enough.

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It looked like it was worn and
had been there, done that.

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And you know the old saying he
had the t shirt and wore it out.

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So it's funny.

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Think about that before you you
plunk buy now and put down that

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credit card that there's going
to come a moment where you're

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going to go, oh, this is cool
and shiny and new, and then

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you're going to go, oh, but it
doesn't look as experienced as

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that guy in the next lane over.

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Well, and it doesn't do what you

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thought it was going to do

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because you would think that,

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oh, this is going to make me a

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better shooter.

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No.

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Speaker:
Yeah.

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Speaker:
Only you can make you a better
shooter.

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Speaker:
Right.

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Speaker:
And you become a better.

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Speaker:
There's the crux of what we're
talking about right there.

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You just said and, and, and only
you can learn what other tools

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and equipment will help you to
hone that edge.

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Yeah.

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Speaker:
And the problem too, is that we
have to wrestle with that again,

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00:15:57,620 --> 00:15:59,220
Speaker:
back to the endorphin dump.

449
00:15:59,220 --> 00:16:01,580
Speaker:
We all like to buy stuff.

450
00:16:01,580 --> 00:16:03,100
Speaker:
You know, I, I have to say, the

451
00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:04,700
Speaker:
older I get, the less interested

452
00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:05,019
Speaker:
in that.

453
00:16:05,019 --> 00:16:09,820
Speaker:
I mean, I can go to Harbor
Freight, walk around the entire

454
00:16:09,820 --> 00:16:15,220
Speaker:
store and come out and maybe
have bought a bag of zip ties.

455
00:16:15,220 --> 00:16:15,580
Speaker:
Yeah.

456
00:16:15,580 --> 00:16:19,379
Speaker:
You know, I mean, there was a
time when I would like, I would

457
00:16:19,379 --> 00:16:22,379
Speaker:
get heart palpitations, you
know, in your hands would shake.

458
00:16:22,379 --> 00:16:23,100
Speaker:
Right.

459
00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:26,759
Speaker:
And it's like, I really need
that purple jack or, you know,

460
00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:28,580
Speaker:
and, uh, all that stuff.

461
00:16:28,580 --> 00:16:31,980
Speaker:
So. Well, I've said that going
to the outdoor store or the gun

462
00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:35,299
Speaker:
store, you know, there used to
be a time I would, I'm like you.

463
00:16:35,299 --> 00:16:38,620
Speaker:
I would be like almost quivery
to go and I could add this and I

464
00:16:38,620 --> 00:16:39,100
Speaker:
ought to buy that.

465
00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:41,289
Speaker:
And now I walk through and it's
like, well, that's interesting,

466
00:16:41,289 --> 00:16:42,690
Speaker:
but I don't need it.

467
00:16:42,690 --> 00:16:45,929
Speaker:
I know, and you walk out with
nothing and it's like, did

468
00:16:45,929 --> 00:16:46,889
Speaker:
something happen to me?

469
00:16:46,889 --> 00:16:48,970
Speaker:
Or I guess I feel better about
it.

470
00:16:48,970 --> 00:16:49,889
Speaker:
Well, you know what I do.

471
00:16:49,889 --> 00:16:52,769
Speaker:
It's like if you go to like a
Cabela's or a Bass Pro or

472
00:16:52,769 --> 00:16:55,450
Speaker:
something, those used to be just
I mean, the angels would sing

473
00:16:55,450 --> 00:16:57,409
Speaker:
This is Nirvana, right?

474
00:16:57,409 --> 00:16:59,090
Speaker:
I walked into the front door of

475
00:16:59,090 --> 00:17:01,269
Speaker:
a Bass Pro and it's like, oh my

476
00:17:01,269 --> 00:17:01,929
Speaker:
God.

477
00:17:01,929 --> 00:17:02,250
Speaker:
Right.

478
00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,289
Speaker:
Well, the mothership is only an
hour from you.

479
00:17:04,289 --> 00:17:08,289
Speaker:
And I specifically drove there
just to walk into that store.

480
00:17:08,289 --> 00:17:08,930
Speaker:
Oh it's true.

481
00:17:08,930 --> 00:17:10,529
Speaker:
It's got the NRA museum.

482
00:17:10,529 --> 00:17:12,130
Speaker:
It's got I mean, it's
unbelievable.

483
00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:14,410
Speaker:
Even smells right in there.

484
00:17:14,410 --> 00:17:17,849
Speaker:
You know, it's like leather and
gun oil and the.

485
00:17:17,849 --> 00:17:22,650
Speaker:
I don't know what it is, but,
uh, I'm old enough now that I

486
00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:25,690
Speaker:
look at things and I think, wow,
that's really cool.

487
00:17:25,690 --> 00:17:28,210
Speaker:
I mean, God forbid I even do
this with guns now.

488
00:17:28,210 --> 00:17:31,369
Speaker:
But I look at things and I
think, well, that's really cool.

489
00:17:31,369 --> 00:17:34,289
Speaker:
And then I envision it sitting

490
00:17:34,289 --> 00:17:37,369
Speaker:
in my closet, gathering dust,

491
00:17:37,369 --> 00:17:38,690
Speaker:
gathering dust.

492
00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:40,470
Speaker:
Or it's like, wow, that's a

493
00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:42,230
Speaker:
really good looking jacket, you

494
00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:42,589
Speaker:
know?

495
00:17:42,589 --> 00:17:42,869
Speaker:
Yeah.

496
00:17:42,869 --> 00:17:44,029
Speaker:
It's like, yes.

497
00:17:44,029 --> 00:17:47,789
Speaker:
And then I would buy it and I
would be happy and I would go

498
00:17:47,789 --> 00:17:49,869
Speaker:
home and wear it a couple times.

499
00:17:49,869 --> 00:17:53,069
Speaker:
And then I would go in my closet
with my twenty five other really

500
00:17:53,069 --> 00:17:54,829
Speaker:
cool jackets that I bought.

501
00:17:56,069 --> 00:17:59,230
Speaker:
And so just, you know, try to
rein that in initially.

502
00:17:59,230 --> 00:18:03,269
Speaker:
I mean, I think if, if somehow,
I'm sorry, manufacturers that

503
00:18:03,269 --> 00:18:07,430
Speaker:
were saying these things, you
know, but I think in the long

504
00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:10,150
Speaker:
run, it pays dividends because
you get people who then when

505
00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:13,670
Speaker:
they buy your product, when they
really need it, and they put it

506
00:18:13,670 --> 00:18:16,309
Speaker:
to use and it performs well,
well, then they're going to want

507
00:18:16,309 --> 00:18:17,950
Speaker:
to buy more products from you.

508
00:18:19,109 --> 00:18:20,690
Speaker:
But if somebody buys a five

509
00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:22,109
Speaker:
hundred dollars red dot sight

510
00:18:22,109 --> 00:18:24,069
Speaker:
from you, and they don't even

511
00:18:24,069 --> 00:18:25,970
Speaker:
know how to put it on their gun,

512
00:18:25,970 --> 00:18:28,349
Speaker:
much less use it to its best

513
00:18:28,349 --> 00:18:29,950
Speaker:
ability, you know, well, then

514
00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:30,509
Speaker:
they're going to be

515
00:18:30,509 --> 00:18:31,269
Speaker:
dissatisfied.

516
00:18:31,269 --> 00:18:32,750
Speaker:
They're going to think it's your
fault.

517
00:18:32,750 --> 00:18:34,109
Speaker:
They're going to blame it on the
site.

518
00:18:34,109 --> 00:18:34,970
Speaker:
They're going to blame it on,

519
00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:36,769
Speaker:
you know, the guy who sold it to

520
00:18:36,769 --> 00:18:37,069
Speaker:
him.

521
00:18:37,069 --> 00:18:42,369
Speaker:
So yeah, the part I wanted to
get to in this is the actionable

522
00:18:42,369 --> 00:18:45,930
Speaker:
intelligence part of the program
in the time we've got left.

523
00:18:45,930 --> 00:18:47,809
Speaker:
So I think we've made that point
pretty clear.

524
00:18:47,809 --> 00:18:50,890
Speaker:
And I think if you've watched us
at all, you kind of get where

525
00:18:50,890 --> 00:18:51,849
Speaker:
we're coming from on this.

526
00:18:51,849 --> 00:18:53,450
Speaker:
And hopefully we're making sense

527
00:18:53,450 --> 00:18:54,890
Speaker:
from here on out, whether you're

528
00:18:54,890 --> 00:18:56,769
Speaker:
a brand new shooter or a very

529
00:18:56,769 --> 00:18:58,450
Speaker:
experienced shooter.

530
00:18:58,450 --> 00:19:03,450
Speaker:
I want to talk about what is the
sweet spot because use red dots

531
00:19:03,450 --> 00:19:04,289
Speaker:
as an example.

532
00:19:04,289 --> 00:19:07,809
Speaker:
You can go on Amazon and get one
for less than fifty bucks.

533
00:19:07,809 --> 00:19:10,769
Speaker:
Or you can buy, say, Trijicon.

534
00:19:10,769 --> 00:19:13,210
Speaker:
I just happen to be wearing
their hat today.

535
00:19:13,210 --> 00:19:17,130
Speaker:
Um, top quality stuff and uh,
vortex, very popular.

536
00:19:17,130 --> 00:19:17,809
Speaker:
Loopholed.

537
00:19:17,809 --> 00:19:19,410
Speaker:
I mean, I could go on and on.

538
00:19:19,410 --> 00:19:21,450
Speaker:
So there's everything from fifty

539
00:19:21,450 --> 00:19:24,710
Speaker:
dollars to probably the top end

540
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:26,250
Speaker:
eight, nine hundred thousand

541
00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:27,849
Speaker:
dollars optics.

542
00:19:28,930 --> 00:19:30,410
Speaker:
And there's no right or wrong
answer here.

543
00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:33,609
Speaker:
But Roy, your philosophy on
where's that sweet spot for the

544
00:19:33,609 --> 00:19:35,250
Speaker:
majority of folks?

545
00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker:
Because, you know, like you
said, Harbor freight.

546
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,039
Speaker:
I've got I've got my own, uh,
cost benefit analysis that with

547
00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker:
a tool, if I'm going to use it
one single time, I'll try to get

548
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker:
a harbor freight job.

549
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker:
But if I know I'm going to use

550
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,220
Speaker:
it for three weeks and I'm going

551
00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:50,920
Speaker:
to build a new room, I'll

552
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,619
Speaker:
probably buy a better quality,

553
00:19:52,619 --> 00:19:54,579
Speaker:
more mainstream name brand

554
00:19:54,579 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker:
thing.

555
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker:
But when we're talking about gun
stuff, whether guns or

556
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,599
Speaker:
accessories, how do you, uh,
make that kind of, uh, purchase

557
00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker:
decision when you're looking at
the range of stuff?

558
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker:
Well, I've learned to, and it
takes time.

559
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker:
Uh, and it takes willpower.

560
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,039
Speaker:
So I have two rules.

561
00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker:
The first rule is I want to buy
a new fill in the blank, right?

562
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker:
So I'll look online.

563
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,559
Speaker:
I'll go to the store, I'll
handle them how everything.

564
00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:28,799
Speaker:
But I do not buy one that first
day.

565
00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:30,519
Speaker:
In other words, don't.

566
00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker:
Yeah.

567
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker:
Because you are going to learn
more.

568
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker:
You know, I mean just the act of

569
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,500
Speaker:
doing the research into looking

570
00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:37,740
Speaker:
for what you think you want to

571
00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:39,140
Speaker:
buy, you're going to learn a

572
00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:39,980
Speaker:
lot.

573
00:20:39,980 --> 00:20:41,380
Speaker:
Uh, and then as a matter of

574
00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker:
fact, sometimes you do a one

575
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,940
Speaker:
eighty and you realize, you know

576
00:20:43,940 --> 00:20:44,099
Speaker:
what?

577
00:20:44,099 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker:
Maybe I really don't need one of
those or I need one of these,

578
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,980
Speaker:
you know, so that's rule one.

579
00:20:51,980 --> 00:20:55,660
Speaker:
The rule two is if you decide

580
00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:57,819
Speaker:
for sure that you need to put a

581
00:20:57,819 --> 00:21:01,759
Speaker:
red dot on your gun, don't go

582
00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:04,059
Speaker:
cheap because you will regret it

583
00:21:04,059 --> 00:21:06,220
Speaker:
instantly and you will waste

584
00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:08,059
Speaker:
that eighty dollars or, you

585
00:21:08,059 --> 00:21:09,380
Speaker:
know, one hundred dollars

586
00:21:09,380 --> 00:21:10,740
Speaker:
because you're now going to have

587
00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker:
to buy a three hundred and fifty

588
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,180
Speaker:
dollars one, which now costs you

589
00:21:14,180 --> 00:21:15,420
Speaker:
four hundred and fifty dollars

590
00:21:15,420 --> 00:21:16,420
Speaker:
because you just waste one

591
00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:17,500
Speaker:
hundred dollars on the other

592
00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,299
Speaker:
one.

593
00:21:18,299 --> 00:21:19,140
Speaker:
Right.

594
00:21:19,140 --> 00:21:21,180
Speaker:
And it's guns are the same way.

595
00:21:21,180 --> 00:21:23,859
Speaker:
You know, you're going to say,
well, I'm, you know, I really

596
00:21:23,859 --> 00:21:24,900
Speaker:
want a twenty two pistol.

597
00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:27,900
Speaker:
And there's this like old rusty
something, something, and it's

598
00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:30,220
Speaker:
only one hundred and ninety five
dollars and I'll buy that.

599
00:21:30,220 --> 00:21:31,819
Speaker:
Don't stop.

600
00:21:31,819 --> 00:21:32,299
Speaker:
Right.

601
00:21:32,299 --> 00:21:33,740
Speaker:
Look at it.

602
00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:35,250
Speaker:
Get that feeling out.

603
00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:36,849
Speaker:
Go home.

604
00:21:36,849 --> 00:21:38,089
Speaker:
Calm down.

605
00:21:39,170 --> 00:21:41,769
Speaker:
You know, and now revisit that.

606
00:21:41,769 --> 00:21:43,369
Speaker:
Maybe I should wait a month.

607
00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:46,130
Speaker:
I'll have two hundred more
dollars I can spend.

608
00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:48,210
Speaker:
And then you go back and you
find, oh, there's that.

609
00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:49,730
Speaker:
Ruger twenty two forty five.

610
00:21:49,730 --> 00:21:51,049
Speaker:
That's nice and clean.

611
00:21:51,049 --> 00:21:52,329
Speaker:
You know, it's lightly used.

612
00:21:52,329 --> 00:21:53,609
Speaker:
Maybe that's the one I should
buy.

613
00:21:53,609 --> 00:21:57,970
Speaker:
But, you know, they said before
was it buy once, cry once.

614
00:21:57,970 --> 00:21:58,410
Speaker:
Once.

615
00:21:58,410 --> 00:21:59,130
Speaker:
Yep.

616
00:21:59,130 --> 00:22:03,490
Speaker:
And I have never not known that
to be the case.

617
00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:04,970
Speaker:
You know, it just.

618
00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:07,609
Speaker:
And I think so shooting
accessories are the same thing.

619
00:22:07,609 --> 00:22:09,529
Speaker:
Don't it's not.

620
00:22:09,529 --> 00:22:11,529
Speaker:
Whoever has the most toys wins.

621
00:22:11,529 --> 00:22:12,849
Speaker:
It's really not.

622
00:22:12,849 --> 00:22:14,049
Speaker:
I mean, whoever has the most

623
00:22:14,049 --> 00:22:16,250
Speaker:
toys I think is an idiot and

624
00:22:16,250 --> 00:22:17,769
Speaker:
failed.

625
00:22:17,769 --> 00:22:20,650
Speaker:
So. Wow, that's pretty plain.

626
00:22:20,650 --> 00:22:23,410
Speaker:
No, but I mean, unless you're
using them all.

627
00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:23,650
Speaker:
Yeah.

628
00:22:23,650 --> 00:22:24,890
Speaker:
You know, I mean, if you're a

629
00:22:24,890 --> 00:22:26,009
Speaker:
competition shooter and you're

630
00:22:26,009 --> 00:22:27,130
Speaker:
traveling, you're going to, you

631
00:22:27,130 --> 00:22:28,210
Speaker:
know, yes, you probably have a

632
00:22:28,210 --> 00:22:29,769
Speaker:
half a dozen competition guns

633
00:22:29,769 --> 00:22:31,150
Speaker:
and you've got, you know, all

634
00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:31,369
Speaker:
that.

635
00:22:31,369 --> 00:22:35,910
Speaker:
But if you're a weekend warrior,
you know, and I mean, you don't

636
00:22:35,910 --> 00:22:37,710
Speaker:
need much there, you know?

637
00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:38,069
Speaker:
Yeah.

638
00:22:38,069 --> 00:22:39,589
Speaker:
You need a decent holster, a gun

639
00:22:39,589 --> 00:22:40,750
Speaker:
that's going to run a half a

640
00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:42,910
Speaker:
dozen magazines, you know, some

641
00:22:42,910 --> 00:22:46,309
Speaker:
good ammo, uh, glasses and

642
00:22:46,309 --> 00:22:47,750
Speaker:
hearing protection and then show

643
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:49,029
Speaker:
up.

644
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:49,470
Speaker:
Yeah.

645
00:22:49,470 --> 00:22:50,750
Speaker:
You know, so.

646
00:22:50,750 --> 00:22:54,710
Speaker:
Well, you know, I think that
that dovetails into the final

647
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:56,069
Speaker:
point I was going to make.

648
00:22:56,069 --> 00:22:57,390
Speaker:
And I think this is very

649
00:22:57,390 --> 00:22:58,150
Speaker:
important and it's

650
00:22:58,150 --> 00:22:59,190
Speaker:
philosophical.

651
00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:02,589
Speaker:
And I'd like to hear your
thoughts, Roy, the idea that

652
00:23:02,589 --> 00:23:07,170
Speaker:
it's all about satisfaction,
because if you buy a cheap

653
00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:11,630
Speaker:
whatever of any kind, are you
going to be satisfied with that?

654
00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:14,789
Speaker:
But if you buy the same kind of
mid-grade, which is where the

655
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:17,710
Speaker:
vast majority of folks buy, I
mean, that's that's almost a

656
00:23:17,710 --> 00:23:20,750
Speaker:
given that and manufacturers
know this, they'll give you a

657
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:21,349
Speaker:
real cheap one.

658
00:23:21,349 --> 00:23:24,529
Speaker:
They'll give you real expensive
one, and know that eighty to

659
00:23:24,529 --> 00:23:27,470
Speaker:
ninety percent of sales will be
that middle one, whether it's

660
00:23:27,470 --> 00:23:28,829
Speaker:
the same product or not.

661
00:23:28,829 --> 00:23:29,990
Speaker:
If it's got the middle price,

662
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker:
that's where everybody

663
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,930
Speaker:
Compromises.

664
00:23:31,930 --> 00:23:37,690
Speaker:
But if you do buy that middle
ground gun or, uh, you know, a,

665
00:23:37,690 --> 00:23:41,490
Speaker:
there's a custom nineteen
eleven, a Nighthawk, a Kimber or

666
00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:42,250
Speaker:
something like that.

667
00:23:42,250 --> 00:23:44,009
Speaker:
Or you can get a good quality

668
00:23:44,009 --> 00:23:46,589
Speaker:
Springfield, you know, Ruger,

669
00:23:46,589 --> 00:23:47,650
Speaker:
whatever.

670
00:23:47,650 --> 00:23:49,329
Speaker:
Are you going to be satisfied?

671
00:23:49,329 --> 00:23:52,369
Speaker:
And if you're not, you'll end up
spending more money.

672
00:23:52,369 --> 00:23:54,849
Speaker:
You'll probably start by two or
three cheap ones.

673
00:23:54,849 --> 00:23:57,849
Speaker:
Get the middle grade, not be
satisfied by the most expensive,

674
00:23:57,849 --> 00:23:59,890
Speaker:
and then you're not going to be
satisfied either because it's

675
00:23:59,890 --> 00:24:03,450
Speaker:
like, well, now as we've said,
I'm not, you know, shooting in

676
00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:05,890
Speaker:
the professional leagues because
it didn't make me any better.

677
00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:07,849
Speaker:
So that's the question I think

678
00:24:07,849 --> 00:24:09,250
Speaker:
we've all got to get to in our

679
00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:11,490
Speaker:
own minds is you got to be

680
00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:12,329
Speaker:
satisfied.

681
00:24:12,329 --> 00:24:16,250
Speaker:
You know, intellectually, the
cheap, cheap version probably is

682
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:17,009
Speaker:
not that good.

683
00:24:17,009 --> 00:24:18,450
Speaker:
That's cheap for a reason.

684
00:24:18,450 --> 00:24:22,009
Speaker:
The most expensive is probably
very high quality.

685
00:24:22,009 --> 00:24:24,029
Speaker:
And if you're a pro level,

686
00:24:24,029 --> 00:24:25,609
Speaker:
whatever, you probably need

687
00:24:25,609 --> 00:24:26,009
Speaker:
that.

688
00:24:26,009 --> 00:24:29,130
Speaker:
But if you're like the vast
majority of what Eric Gillhaus

689
00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker:
calls normal earth people.

690
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,759
Speaker:
Me and you and Roy and everybody
else.

691
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker:
The middle ground is probably

692
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,339
Speaker:
the best way to go, but the key

693
00:24:36,339 --> 00:24:38,079
Speaker:
there is just be satisfied with

694
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:38,279
Speaker:
it.

695
00:24:38,279 --> 00:24:39,519
Speaker:
So I know you're.

696
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker:
We call you the Missouri Buddha.

697
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,279
Speaker:
Roy.

698
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker:
So your thoughts on being
satisfied with what you buy?

699
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker:
Well, people may not realize how
manufacturers play that card.

700
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,180
Speaker:
Uh, every manufacturer I know
who sells anything other than

701
00:24:55,180 --> 00:25:01,079
Speaker:
Rolls Royce has has the good,
better, best, right?

702
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:02,779
Speaker:
If you're a, if you're a, a

703
00:25:02,779 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker:
leather maker, you'll, you'll

704
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,799
Speaker:
say, well, you can buy this belt

705
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,660
Speaker:
and it's seventy five dollars,

706
00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:11,599
Speaker:
but you can buy a belt and a

707
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:13,839
Speaker:
holster for one hundred and

708
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker:
fifty dollars, or you can buy a

709
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker:
belt and a holster and a mag

710
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,579
Speaker:
pouch for one hundred and ninety

711
00:25:20,579 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker:
five dollars.

712
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,319
Speaker:
Well, see, that's good.

713
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker:
Better, best.

714
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker:
So a guy goes to their website
and he wants to buy a gun belt.

715
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker:
So there it is.

716
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker:
Right.

717
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,299
Speaker:
But he's going to look and just
say, well, you know, just for a

718
00:25:31,299 --> 00:25:32,220
Speaker:
few more dollars.

719
00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:34,180
Speaker:
Heck, I can get a holster too.

720
00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:35,140
Speaker:
Right.

721
00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:39,099
Speaker:
And and then it goes and, and
that's where many people stop.

722
00:25:39,099 --> 00:25:39,619
Speaker:
Right.

723
00:25:39,619 --> 00:25:41,019
Speaker:
But then the smart people might

724
00:25:41,019 --> 00:25:42,460
Speaker:
go, yeah, but for just a few

725
00:25:42,460 --> 00:25:43,819
Speaker:
more dollars, I get a complete

726
00:25:43,819 --> 00:25:44,700
Speaker:
set.

727
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:46,940
Speaker:
And and you can't tell me that.

728
00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:50,099
Speaker:
That's not very satisfying
feeling.

729
00:25:50,099 --> 00:25:53,019
Speaker:
And even though at the time they
go, well, that's more money than

730
00:25:53,019 --> 00:25:57,460
Speaker:
I wanted to spend, when the box
shows up from the holster maker

731
00:25:57,460 --> 00:26:02,420
Speaker:
and they have a new belt, a new
holster, and a new mag pouch.

732
00:26:02,420 --> 00:26:05,819
Speaker:
They feel pretty nice about that
because think about it, right?

733
00:26:05,819 --> 00:26:07,380
Speaker:
Because otherwise you get the
gun belt.

734
00:26:07,380 --> 00:26:10,980
Speaker:
You'd say, oh man, I wish I
would have bought the holster.

735
00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:12,059
Speaker:
Yeah.

736
00:26:12,059 --> 00:26:13,940
Speaker:
And I think guns and accessories

737
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,339
Speaker:
of all kinds are exactly the

738
00:26:15,339 --> 00:26:15,819
Speaker:
same thing.

739
00:26:15,819 --> 00:26:17,339
Speaker:
And manufacturers do that.

740
00:26:17,339 --> 00:26:20,900
Speaker:
I mean, Ruger makes the basic
ten twenty two.

741
00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:22,559
Speaker:
They make a mid-range ten twenty

742
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:23,700
Speaker:
two and then they make a high

743
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:24,259
Speaker:
end target.

744
00:26:24,259 --> 00:26:29,079
Speaker:
Ten twenty two and I mean, many
people are happy with the entry

745
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker:
level gun and there's nothing
wrong with that.

746
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker:
And if that's what you want to

747
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker:
do, then that's what you should

748
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,599
Speaker:
do.

749
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker:
There's nothing wrong with that.

750
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,460
Speaker:
But I think if you really want
to be shooting and you're going

751
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:41,819
Speaker:
to go hunting and you have some
experience and all that, I think

752
00:26:41,819 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker:
you'd make a mistake doing
almost anything entry level.

753
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker:
You you'd have to do just what
you're talking about, which is

754
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,279
Speaker:
at least go mid-range, you know,
and then as you get more

755
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker:
sophisticated, as your tastes
change, as you get more

756
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker:
experience, as your income
grows, as you get older, you

757
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,940
Speaker:
know, then now you can explore
maybe getting that, you know, a

758
00:27:01,940 --> 00:27:03,039
Speaker:
little higher end.

759
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,559
Speaker:
I just did a video on the

760
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker:
Bighorn Armory, their model

761
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,799
Speaker:
eighty nine.

762
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker:
It's a six thousand dollars
lever action rifle.

763
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,519
Speaker:
Right.

764
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,759
Speaker:
And the comments were really
interesting.

765
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker:
There were well, I have a Rossi
lever action and it's just as

766
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,319
Speaker:
good, you know.

767
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker:
Well, good.

768
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,799
Speaker:
And you should probably keep
that Rossi, you know, because

769
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:28,349
Speaker:
here's someone who would
probably not really understand

770
00:27:28,349 --> 00:27:31,869
Speaker:
what's going on here with this
Bighorn Armory gun.

771
00:27:31,869 --> 00:27:34,789
Speaker:
Then there were a lot of people
who said, boy, you know, I've

772
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:36,670
Speaker:
got a marlin, I've got a this.

773
00:27:36,670 --> 00:27:39,509
Speaker:
I've always admired these high
quality guns.

774
00:27:39,509 --> 00:27:43,349
Speaker:
My rifle does the job for me,
but I can see where one of those

775
00:27:43,349 --> 00:27:46,269
Speaker:
would just be so much fun to use
and, and buy.

776
00:27:46,269 --> 00:27:49,309
Speaker:
And it's like, yeah, it is
right.

777
00:27:49,309 --> 00:27:50,390
Speaker:
But they did good.

778
00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:52,869
Speaker:
They bought a good tool for what
they needed.

779
00:27:52,869 --> 00:27:55,950
Speaker:
And then there's a few people
who say, you know what?

780
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:57,910
Speaker:
I saved my money, I bought one.

781
00:27:57,910 --> 00:28:01,109
Speaker:
It is the best, funnest darn
thing.

782
00:28:01,109 --> 00:28:03,670
Speaker:
I love it every time I shoot it.

783
00:28:03,670 --> 00:28:05,190
Speaker:
I just love it.

784
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:08,750
Speaker:
Everybody I show it to loses
their minds, you know?

785
00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:12,849
Speaker:
And so that's I think that's the
balance, you know, so if you

786
00:28:12,849 --> 00:28:15,630
Speaker:
can't appreciate that, then you
shouldn't waste your money on

787
00:28:15,630 --> 00:28:18,349
Speaker:
it, you know, but if you can't
appreciate it, it's better to do

788
00:28:18,349 --> 00:28:22,230
Speaker:
that than start at the bottom
and slowly work your way up.

789
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:25,970
Speaker:
Well, that word is another great
word to highlight in this

790
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:28,049
Speaker:
episode is appreciate.

791
00:28:28,049 --> 00:28:31,890
Speaker:
I would say, you know, what are
they?

792
00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:32,890
Speaker:
What's another saying?

793
00:28:32,890 --> 00:28:36,450
Speaker:
Always spend more than you want
to.

794
00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:38,730
Speaker:
Never less than you should.

795
00:28:38,730 --> 00:28:39,329
Speaker:
Good point.

796
00:28:39,329 --> 00:28:39,690
Speaker:
Right.

797
00:28:39,690 --> 00:28:40,529
Speaker:
Yeah.

798
00:28:40,529 --> 00:28:43,569
Speaker:
And and guns and gear are the
same way.

799
00:28:43,569 --> 00:28:45,890
Speaker:
I mean, everything there is.

800
00:28:45,890 --> 00:28:50,329
Speaker:
So if you're serious and you
want to to get into shooting,

801
00:28:50,329 --> 00:28:53,009
Speaker:
for instance, you know, go to
the range, rent different guns,

802
00:28:53,009 --> 00:28:56,650
Speaker:
talk to all your friends, shoot
their guns, educate yourself.

803
00:28:56,650 --> 00:29:01,789
Speaker:
And then when you go to buy that
first gun, spend more than you

804
00:29:01,789 --> 00:29:05,450
Speaker:
want to, but not less than you
should, because chances are

805
00:29:05,450 --> 00:29:08,630
Speaker:
good, then you're going to be
satisfied with that, and it'll

806
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:10,690
Speaker:
be a gun that you can grow with.

807
00:29:10,690 --> 00:29:13,450
Speaker:
Uh, it'll be a gun that you'll
likely keep in your collection.

808
00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:16,890
Speaker:
You might pass it on to your son
or daughter or something.

809
00:29:16,890 --> 00:29:21,849
Speaker:
Um, but because nothing is worse
than I mean, we make fun about

810
00:29:21,849 --> 00:29:25,799
Speaker:
harbor freight, but I mean,
nothing truly is worse.

811
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,779
Speaker:
I not so much now, but years ago
Harbor Freight was just terrible

812
00:29:29,779 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker:
to up their game.

813
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,839
Speaker:
And they really have.

814
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:34,519
Speaker:
I mean, pretty much everything
works there.

815
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,759
Speaker:
But I mean, I remember buying an
electric tool thinking, oh good.

816
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker:
You know, I've got this like
really cool electric tool now.

817
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker:
Yeah.

818
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker:
You know, and you bring it home

819
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,299
Speaker:
and when you plug it in, you

820
00:29:43,299 --> 00:29:45,660
Speaker:
hear the gears grind, you know,

821
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,079
Speaker:
or, and then the magical blue

822
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:48,039
Speaker:
smoke.

823
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker:
Yeah.

824
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker:
You know, and it's just like so
unsatisfying.

825
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,119
Speaker:
And you realize, well, I just
spent, you know, eighty nine

826
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker:
dollars on this.

827
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker:
And so then, you know, you take
that back or maybe you can't

828
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker:
take it back.

829
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,519
Speaker:
And then now you go to Home
Depot or someplace and you spend

830
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker:
one hundred and fifty dollars,
which you should have spent to

831
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,319
Speaker:
begin with, you know, and then
when you get home and you're

832
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:09,839
Speaker:
running it, oh, it's quiet, it's
smooth, it's got a lot of power.

833
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker:
You know, there's that

834
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,839
Speaker:
satisfaction because man, I and

835
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,079
Speaker:
I've seen a lot of people get

836
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:15,099
Speaker:
disillusioned, you know,

837
00:30:15,099 --> 00:30:16,519
Speaker:
they'll, they, they go out and

838
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker:
they buy some fill in the blank

839
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,319
Speaker:
name brand cheapie gun, you

840
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:24,220
Speaker:
know, us.

841
00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:28,619
Speaker:
And they go and they shoot it
and it's just not satisfying.

842
00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:28,900
Speaker:
Yeah.

843
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:30,660
Speaker:
You know, and then they think,

844
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:32,420
Speaker:
well, this isn't any fun, you

845
00:30:32,420 --> 00:30:32,740
Speaker:
know.

846
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:34,859
Speaker:
You know, and you're it is fun.

847
00:30:34,859 --> 00:30:36,819
Speaker:
You just did it the wrong way.

848
00:30:36,819 --> 00:30:38,180
Speaker:
Exactly.

849
00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:40,140
Speaker:
Well, uh, great.

850
00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:40,819
Speaker:
Uh, points.

851
00:30:40,819 --> 00:30:43,619
Speaker:
And again, I don't think there's
a right or wrong answer here,

852
00:30:43,619 --> 00:30:44,940
Speaker:
but just be educated.

853
00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker:
Try to take your emotion, your,

854
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,059
Speaker:
uh, reptile brain, out of it a

855
00:30:49,059 --> 00:30:49,900
Speaker:
little bit.

856
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,460
Speaker:
Don't fall for the marketing
hype.

857
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:53,500
Speaker:
And again, even we do it, but I

858
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker:
was going to point out the, the

859
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,099
Speaker:
big dichotomy going away is when

860
00:30:57,099 --> 00:30:58,299
Speaker:
I got to be editor of guns

861
00:30:58,299 --> 00:31:00,319
Speaker:
magazine, you know, it's, it's

862
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:01,799
Speaker:
by virtue of what we do, it's

863
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:02,380
Speaker:
wonderful.

864
00:31:02,380 --> 00:31:03,180
Speaker:
It's a blessing.

865
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:05,140
Speaker:
We get gear all the time.

866
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:08,660
Speaker:
And there reaches a point where
you get beyond, oh, cool.

867
00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:11,619
Speaker:
The, the, as we call it, the
brown truck of joy showed up.

868
00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:15,500
Speaker:
And now and some of this is
Roy's influence, but I've got

869
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,299
Speaker:
too much crap here and I just
give away stuff.

870
00:31:18,299 --> 00:31:23,380
Speaker:
And I'm trying to downsize from
two story paid storage units to

871
00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:24,279
Speaker:
at least one.

872
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker:
And a lot of it's just stuff

873
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker:
that I got and there's nothing

874
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker:
wrong with it, but it just it's

875
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker:
not something that makes my life

876
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,319
Speaker:
better.

877
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker:
And you, you're kind of
conflicted and getting rid of

878
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,839
Speaker:
it, but, uh, have it.

879
00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:39,839
Speaker:
What my point I'm trying to make
here is having more gear does

880
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker:
not make you the winner.

881
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker:
And it certainly doesn't change
your skill level.

882
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker:
And, uh, I've got a friend who

883
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,039
Speaker:
owns a burial vault company, and

884
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,079
Speaker:
he often points out he so far in

885
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:50,599
Speaker:
the thousands of funerals he's

886
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker:
worked, he's never seen a hearse

887
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,759
Speaker:
with a luggage rack or pulling a

888
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trailer.

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00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,039
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So that kind of kind of puts it
in perspective, you know, you

890
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know, die hard hunters.

891
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,119
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And you're probably one of

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these, uh, that you go to,

893
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:07,039
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they're like hunting room, you

894
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know, or the portion of their

895
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:10,279
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garage that has the hunting

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stuff.

897
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,220
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And there's, you know, a dozen
different packs and, you know,

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five different waiters and yeah,
yeah, thirty five spinning reels

899
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:21,549
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and, you know, the list goes on.

900
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I've just got that in my garage.

901
00:32:26,109 --> 00:32:27,950
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Well, shooters are the same way.

902
00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:29,950
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And I. So I think that the

903
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biggest thing for me is because

904
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I've done it and you've done it

905
00:32:32,670 --> 00:32:35,410
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and everybody does it, but is

906
00:32:35,410 --> 00:32:37,630
Speaker:
don't be in a rush to buy

907
00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:38,869
Speaker:
everything.

908
00:32:38,869 --> 00:32:40,869
Speaker:
Uh, because you're going to end
up like that.

909
00:32:40,869 --> 00:32:42,470
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You're going to have a shelf
full of holsters.

910
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:44,990
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You're gonna have a shelf full
of other things that you never,

911
00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:46,109
Speaker:
ever, ever use.

912
00:32:46,109 --> 00:32:51,430
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So if you, if you could be smart
enough to just step at a time,

913
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it's more satisfying.

914
00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:54,029
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You'll save your money.

915
00:32:54,029 --> 00:32:56,430
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You won't waste it on things you
don't need.

916
00:32:56,430 --> 00:32:57,589
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You'll be able to buy better

917
00:32:57,589 --> 00:32:59,009
Speaker:
things when you finally make the

918
00:32:59,009 --> 00:33:01,650
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buying decision, you know, uh,

919
00:33:01,650 --> 00:33:04,509
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and, and frankly, I almost

920
00:33:04,509 --> 00:33:06,029
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across the board, fewer is

921
00:33:06,029 --> 00:33:07,869
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usually better because you can

922
00:33:07,869 --> 00:33:09,829
Speaker:
focus on learning to use what

923
00:33:09,829 --> 00:33:11,210
Speaker:
you have rather than just

924
00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:12,670
Speaker:
acquiring.

925
00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:13,630
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Yep.

926
00:33:13,630 --> 00:33:16,750
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The more crap you have, the less
freedom you have in your life.

927
00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:18,269
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And I, I truly believe that.

928
00:33:18,269 --> 00:33:21,809
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So. Well, Roy, a great topic,
great discussion.

929
00:33:21,809 --> 00:33:23,049
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We need to get on out of here.

930
00:33:23,049 --> 00:33:24,490
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Of course, if you're watching on

931
00:33:24,490 --> 00:33:25,690
Speaker:
YouTube, please leave us a

932
00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:25,970
Speaker:
comment.

933
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:28,529
Speaker:
I'd like to hear what you think
and I'm sure we will.

934
00:33:28,529 --> 00:33:32,849
Speaker:
And then if you're listening to
us on an audio podcast, Spotify,

935
00:33:32,849 --> 00:33:36,650
Speaker:
Apple Podcasts, some of those,
you can always reach out and

936
00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:41,210
Speaker:
send us an email that's editor
at podcast dot us.

937
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:45,250
Speaker:
And, uh, I, I've been bad lately
not responding to the emails,

938
00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:47,809
Speaker:
but I do certainly read them and
we certainly appreciate it.

939
00:33:47,809 --> 00:33:50,730
Speaker:
So, uh, before we get out of
here, of course, make sure you

940
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:52,450
Speaker:
check out guns magazine dot com.

941
00:33:52,450 --> 00:33:53,890
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I just had a piece this week.

942
00:33:53,890 --> 00:33:57,130
Speaker:
It should be published now where
I went back and reviewed stuff

943
00:33:57,130 --> 00:34:00,849
Speaker:
that I reviewed two or three
years ago in guns magazine.

944
00:34:00,849 --> 00:34:03,769
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And, uh, it's kind of funny not
to get off on a separate topic,

945
00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:06,690
Speaker:
but I realized there's a lot of
gear that we review, and then

946
00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:08,530
Speaker:
that's the last time it sees the
light of day.

947
00:34:08,530 --> 00:34:09,610
Speaker:
It goes on the shelf.

948
00:34:09,610 --> 00:34:12,489
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And then there's gear that I
still use almost every day.

949
00:34:12,489 --> 00:34:14,289
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And I thought, I'll go back and

950
00:34:14,289 --> 00:34:17,349
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do the, uh, the redo, uh, gear

951
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:18,559
Speaker:
review so you can check that

952
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker:
out.

953
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker:
Guns magazine dot com.

954
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker:
Of course, if you want to buy
some merch and we've been

955
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,119
Speaker:
selling some merch, uh, t
shirts, sweatshirts, mugs, you

956
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker:
can go to guns podcast dot us.

957
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,079
Speaker:
And you can also see some of my

958
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:32,679
Speaker:
writing and other fun stuff

959
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker:
there.

960
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,219
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It's kind of just a junk drawer

961
00:34:34,219 --> 00:34:36,119
Speaker:
of, of fun and interesting

962
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker:
stuff.

963
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker:
And, uh, so you can check that
out.

964
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker:
Guns podcast dot us and guns
magazine dot com.

965
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker:
So anyway, Roy, let's get on out
of here.

966
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,840
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I appreciate you talking, uh,
taking time to talk about this.

967
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,119
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As always, you've got great

968
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,880
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insight from many years of

969
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,320
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shooting.

970
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker:
So on behalf of Roy Huntington,
I'm Brent Wheat, the host of

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00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker:
guns podcast us.

972
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,159
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And as I always remind you, now

973
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:58,800
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it's time to get out there and

974
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker:
get shooting.