Club 520 - Jeff Teague, Kyle Korver & Paul Millsap on 60-win Atlanta Hawks, NBA playoffs vs. LeBron James
Jeff Teague and the Club 520 guys are back with a bonus episode LIVE from Atlanta where Kyle Korver and Paul Millsap join to talk about the historic 60-win Atlanta Hawks season from 2015. The guys talk about sending four players to the All-Star Game, when they realized that they were one of the best teams in the NBA, and reflect on getting swept by LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals.
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2025-03-08
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The volume. Oh right at about the nice yeares for us. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.480 Shout out to the Hawks man specially noise for the Hawks. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:11.160 One time. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.760 Show two times for y'all. We appreciate y'all pulling up 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.280 one time for the one time. It's Club five twenty 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:19.560 live and the Ato. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:20.880 Man, you're not your back home man. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.840 Yeah, I'm glad. I don't see no double zero cherseys. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.680 I appreciate it so every time of my life. The 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.840 PTSD jersey for show man. Well listen, this is Club 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.120 five twenty. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wills. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.920 We got some special special guests with us. Man honor 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.479 the legendary team in the NBA, especially for the Hawks 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.800 history man to my immediately, if we're gonna introduce my 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.360 man's last to my farther. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.199 Left, my dog BI should be hearing out the pearls. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:45.120 How you wasn't nasty? 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.680 What's saying that man at l thank you? 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.839 He don't even sound the same ato. You know what 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.440 shot he got the zero jersey? Turn me out? Yeah 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:54.200 I like that one. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.680 All right, all right, cool for show for show tomorrow, right, 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.080 y'all know what it is man, TL's finest young not 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:02.800 your young team. I feel to be back in the 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.360 ay Man, feel great. Man, It's always home, uh, my 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.840 favorite place to ever play. So I'm glad I can 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.160 have my guys show up with us today. I'm actually 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.160 really really happy about this. We've been trying to get 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.920 Paul on the show. I wanted to get Kyle. Kyle's 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:17.320 my guy. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.200 So to be able to do this live with y'all, 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:20.360 this is great for sure. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.160 Man, shouts to the Hawks one more time for making 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:26.320 this wonderful situation happen. Man, most definitely shouts y'all as 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:27.160 well for pulling up. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.720 But last it was most certainly not least meant to 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:30.360 my left. Man. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.800 We got two Hawks legends in the building, man hoping 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.560 that already had amazing NBA careers. Man with no further ado, Man, 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.839 we got Kyle Corn Paul messed up in the building. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:48.040 Appreciate y'all sliding on this man for show. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.440 For shures, Like we said, we're gonna highlight that wonderful year. Man. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.360 Obviously I had many good years here, but that was 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.800 a really, really, really special one. But before we get 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.240 into that year, we got to talk about how y'all 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.440 all came together because obviously not sho you was already 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.040 a Hawk all, Kyle, y'all came for different situations. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.400 Let's talk about how y'all got to being a Hawk. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.400 Well, I guess I'll start. Yeah, I was. I was 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:06.480 in Utah. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.640 You know, I spent seven years in Utah, had some 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.360 great years in Utah, and then you know, it was 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.400 time to go. And you know, I was looking for 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.400 its place to be closer to home in Louisiana. I 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.200 me and my wife actually were looking at homes, you know, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:23.560 in Atlanta, Houston, Dallas area. So we wanted to move 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.600 back somewhere, and the Hawks offered me a two year 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.720 deal and the rest is history. 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.480 Most definitely, cole Man I would come out. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:31.760 I was. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.040 I played with Paul in Utah for a couple of years, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.000 and then was in Chicago, and then uh it was 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.440 with Derrick Rose when he was U MVP. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:43.680 Yeah. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.840 Then you know, things happened, had to get traded. I 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.280 knew that I was going to be on the move. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.280 It's funny. We actually I was driving with my wife. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.040 We drove from New Jersey. I don't know why we did, 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.800 is we drove all the way to Santa Barbara and 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:58.640 on the way we knew we are to get traded somewhere, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.400 and we were like looking around with teams there was 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.440 going to be And we got all the way to 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.920 Santa Barbara and I got a call from Danny Ferry 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.120 saying I. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:06.720 Had to file it back. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.040 We like drove across the country, got there, go went 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.880 to the airport, and flew all the way back to Atlanta. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.480 And it was funny thinking back about it now. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:15.720 We went. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:19.680 We stayed at the Rich Carlton downtown and Danny Ferry 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.799 came down that morning and asked me come to the 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:23.760 table and talk to him. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:25.480 And I thought it was gonna be like a welcome 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:26.200 to the Hawks moment. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.200 And he was sitting there at debating with the doctor 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.040 if he was kind of accept my physical and not. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:32.359 Me. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.920 He's like, I don't know. This guy's been I had 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.040 a foot injury the year before. And he's like debating 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:40.760 if he was going to accept this thing. And I'm like, man, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:41.640 should I be sitting here? 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:42.960 Should I like walk away? 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.480 And he and he just like decided the last second. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:47.480 He's like, all right, we're. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:47.840 Gonna do it. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.800 Welcome to the Hawks. And I was like, okay, So 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:51.320 how did. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.600 I get to the Hawks. That's how I got to 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:54.280 the Hawks. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.120 And physicals riding Bay real tricky right now for show, 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:58.520 now for you. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.280 He was already here with the U a different regime, obviously, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.280 new culture, new situation. How was that welcomed them to 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.840 the team. I probably wasn't the best at welcoming people 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.240 to the team. I didn't talk much, so when I 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.000 met Paul, he just came in, what's up. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.440 You know, he don't talk a lot either, So it's. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:17.320 Gonna be a great podcast. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.320 Yeah, what's up, Bro? That's all he gave was ahead 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:21.960 and what's up? 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:22.080 Bro? 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.680 And Kyle he was y'all see Kyle, he he lights 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.040 up a room, he comes in, what's up? 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:27.320 Brother. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.200 I thought he was like a surfer kind of guy, 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:30.640 So I'm like, what's up? 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.360 Cool dude? 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.840 Like, but he was super cool, super chill, and uh 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:35.839 it was easy. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.440 It was easy to work with. That's crazy. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.159 I mean, before we get past this point, we gotta 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.040 talk about Kyle Man. You got one of the legendary 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.360 picks in the NBA. Man, you with the Jordan zone. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.000 Has that ever came across your timeline recently? You we 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.320 got the rookie pick, you got the Jason and everybody's 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:51.640 like that, we thought he was a surfer, but you. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.400 Had the heat on your feet. Please revisit that pile. 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:55.839 Where that's like it's like there's a date on the 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.520 calendar where that picture has to come back on the 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:58.560 internet every single year. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.000 It's like two pictures. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:00.720 That's one of them. 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:03.239 But yeah, man, you know that was All Star Weekend. 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:04.920 You got to come with something, right, for sure, A 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:09.600 little bit different All Star Weekend now, for sure, that's true, 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.240 my pot petty'all, but listen, legendary season start off. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.960 Man. First of all, who's coaching the team at the time. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.040 Mike Budenhozer. Come coach Bud. You man, that was my guy. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:24.200 Oh yeah, you can clocking up a Bud and. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:26.120 Coach. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.440 That's the home for show. Yeah, Coach Budd was cool. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:31.240 When he first got here. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:36.520 I didn't like him, not to say it like that, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:40.799 but we ended up becoming really good friends. But for real, Uh, 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.240 we played the ice so style. You know, before they 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.919 got here, we had Joe. Everybody played one on one basketball. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.560 I don't know if it was the best brand of basketball, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.400 but it was fun. And uh, he came in and 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.800 changed all that and for me, it was my time 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.520 to shine. I thought I just had got the team, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.479 like it was my first year really about to start. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.640 And he was like, no, we don't play that way 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:02.760 no more. I was like, he hate And so after 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.000 that we didn't start off on the best foot. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:06.440 Yeah. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.040 No, Me and Budd, you know, we kicked it off 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.120 pretty pretty good, you know, our first time meeting each other. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.840 For me, I was just evolving into, you know, a 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.400 more high volume player, and Bud kind of brought that 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.560 out of me. You know, I actually reached out the 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.080 actually reached out to me a couple of weeks ago, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:30.039 you know, when I officially decided to retire, and he's say, congratulations, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.599 and I was like, you know, I appreciate everything that 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.760 you've done because he helped bring that, you know, whatever 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.400 it was that I had, you know, add of me. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.480 And you know, definitely appreciative for that. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.720 Most definitely man, congratulations as well man in retirement for 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:43.240 Shure Man. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.000 There we go. Chuse love regulations. Man. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.640 Now before we get into the season, Me and be 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.279 here got a talk because you know, this is our man, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.719 this is our man from the day one. So naturally 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.760 we got to hate and y'all was our favorite team 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.120 to hate on. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:57.479 Man. 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.920 Yeah, yo, y'all was man fool with y'all like that. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:01.839 I'm gonna keep it real. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.120 I was supporting my guy, but I was like, how 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:06.240 do they keep winning? 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:06.599 Man? 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:09.520 Who did you root for? At that time? 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.680 I was really just a player like Carmelo Anthony was 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:13.480 my favorite player. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.040 But me and him, it was deeper than y'all, Like 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.680 he made he made me. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.960 Not like him, Like he used to come back to 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.000 the crib cal corner shoe bear and everybody in the 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.160 league Cal corner shoe bearing real like, man, I can't 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.400 say it, don't hear, but y'all know what cor But nah, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.760 I just used to be like dang bro really leading 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.280 the Hawks, like, and I honestly thought that y'all could 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:38.800 have made it for real run, but I had to 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.560 hate because that was just our beat for real. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.360 But I just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was always 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:44.840 real beef. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.000 They call us the little Giants. You ever seen that movie? 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:48.720 That's what they called me. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.560 Every day. Y'all was the little Giants. Man, y'all had 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:52.720 y'all one shot. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.680 Y'all went that crazy run, but you know, shout out 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.400 to y'all. Y'all did y'all thing for sure? 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.240 For sure, we're gonna get too far here about but 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:02.160 starting a season off, y'all started off five hundred and 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.320 five or five. Initial thoughts on that, like, are y'all 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:05.920 trying to figure it out or just get used to 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.360 new players, new too, leaders with Bud every day, new systems, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.120 or did I know we had some special We just 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:10.680 got to get there. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.920 I don't know that we knew that we were going 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.440 to end up with the season that we had. And 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.480 I think that our group was really had been the 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.720 works for a couple of years, and that's really how 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.280 these really good teams happened. It never just like all 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.160 comes again. It was very few instances in the NBA 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.080 where like a bunch of moves are made and now 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.440 we have a super team and they're going to take 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.280 off like that's happened, but it's not very often. And 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.080 I think what we had all been doing it was 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:40.199 just really trusting a process. And you know, Paul been 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:41.320 there for a couple of years now, I've been there 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.000 a couple years, Jeff, you'd been there, But like we 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.640 didn't really add anything new that was going to like 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.120 put us over the top, and so as it really 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.640 we started off like you said, we started off five hundred, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.920 but like our style of play, our chemistry kept on building, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.120 and then we end up in you know, later on 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.880 the spring, in a whole month without losing, and we're like, wow, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.120 like I think we're good. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.680 I thought I was gonna get traded when we started off, like, yeah, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.360 they got probably at the move. Me I'm not mixing 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.520 in pretty well. But now we just got in a groove. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.240 And like when we got in that groove, it was 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.360 over with. Our defense was connected, our offense was connected, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.640 and it was times out there during that year we 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.719 didn't even get to play the fourth quarter and it 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.280 messed up my stats. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.559 All start team barely. 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.079 Who was the vocal leader on that team? 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:37.400 Though it wasn't me? 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.240 It wasn't because though now you're all three of y'all's quiet, So. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.960 You know, I mean, that's funny because you know, Bud 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.760 always tried to get somebody to be super vocal, one 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.520 of those guys, right, and neither one of us really 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.680 had it in us. So each one of us will 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.160 say something every now and then and we'll put our 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:53.680 input in. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.640 But what was the vocal leader. Okay, you know at 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:58.439 that time. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.920 All I didn't say a word. Kyle, Kyle talked. He 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.600 talks a lot, you know, Al you. 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.679 Al So y'all used to just kill people and not 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.880 saying that to nobody. Nobody talked crazy to the opponent 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.320 or nothing, not even nobody on the bench. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.600 He used to talk crazy, Dennis, Yeah, most definitely crazy, 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.400 yoab Get about games, yeah, no, I took that. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.000 This is just a sidebar. I took that game and 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.760 we have them at our house all the time. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:34.000 That cone from you, Oh okay, I didn't know where 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:34.680 you got that from. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.680 It was more intense in the UNO games than on 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:37.720 the court. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.000 That's how it is. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.680 Now y'all responsible for a lot of random disagreements. Maybe 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.560 baby Fist fights the club twenty due to us Muno. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:47.280 So thank y'all for that. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.600 We appreciate that. Botigh for sure, that's crazy. The fact 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.600 that y'all have are really that like kind of mono 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.000 tone was just killing. But you talked about the makeup 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.760 of that team and stuff. But also shout out to 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.839 al Al still hooping, ain't that crazy? 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:04.280 Super crazy? Still championships He's super good. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:11.000 Still just Alan Dinnis from that teams playing. Yeah, man, damn, 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:21.720 we filled it up pretty fast, real quiet. The crown 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.480 got like a definitely quiet like. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:25.840 For sure. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.800 Man, listen, y'all caught you stride January historic month, like 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.120 basically your entire team, it's a player of the month. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.520 How was that feel? Like y'all all killing y'all all 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.199 getting a recognition from that? I know that has to 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.520 feel good in the locker room, for sure. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.079 I don't think any one of us cared, you know, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.000 at that time, I don't think we cared that much. Right, 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.280 we were so in the zone in the process of 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.280 a winning that none of the stats and accolade actually mattered. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.719 You know, it's after the fact, you know, when the 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.439 career is over with, I look back and say, this 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.000 probably will never be done again. You know, it's a 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.880 it's an amazing accomplishment, especially when you got four you 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.880 got four teammates, you know it's all stars. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.440 Probably would never be done again. 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.200 Yeah, let's let's talk about that also here, man, listen, 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.720 four teammates into the All star situation. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.520 How do y'all find out about that? 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.120 Because I know something made a little bit earlier than 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.800 those like what's that like when y'all find out that 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.320 all y'all going to be representing the squad? 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.079 I didn't know that all of us was gonna make it. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:34.040 I was just worried about me, But I knew Paul 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:35.719 had a I knew Paul would make it. He was 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.000 having a great year most definitely, And I knew I 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.199 was gonna make it. He had already been making them anyway, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.800 so I knew them too were gonna make it. So 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.160 I didn't know if I would make it, and I 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.079 didn't know if Kyle was gonna make it, but I 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:47.000 was excited for us. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:49.360 Kyle, what's that feeling like when you find out you're 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:50.360 gonna be representing squad? 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:53.839 That was pretty wild for me. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.800 I never saw myself as an All Star player, Like 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.920 I always wanted to be the piece that like like 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.199 made a team go and someone that you really wanted 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.599 to be, you know, if you could count on and 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.839 depend on, like you like, I wanted to be that 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.760 that that perfect teammate. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.959 So I never really like looked at myself as being 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:13.160 like that. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.679 So I think with the beauty of that team, man, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.200 it's like we all made each other better for sure, 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.440 Like and That's really the hallmark of like the good 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.560 teams to me is like when everyone is looking at 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.560 each other and it's not about me, it's how can 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.800 I make the guy next to me better? And the 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.120 beauty of that squad was like we didn't need we 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.840 were talking about words, like we didn't like we talked 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.520 on the court. We talked in like nods and winks 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:40.079 and looks, and like that's what made us special. It's 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:43.960 like we didn't have to like communicate, like yelling at 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.400 each other. Like we was like I looked at you 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.000 and looked at out and I knew we were gonna 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.360 go wide. Yeah, you know, like it was just we 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.480 We had this kind of sixth sense to us, and 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.319 that's really what made that team special, was what made 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:55.079 it so fun to play on. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.840 Definitely that's the problem now would be coaching basketball. I think. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.080 They can do that. They look at me like you are. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.400 You're about to pass out coach. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.240 Like, yeah, cowcovers not walking through that Doorike shout out 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:11.880 the bike for sure? 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.719 No, Yeah, I mean for me, I was, you know, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.719 I was happy, you know I had teammates going to 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.520 the All Star Game, you know, I was. I was 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.840 I don't mess with I don't. I didn't care about 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.120 all that, you know, but to have my teammates with me, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.720 you know, going to the All Star Games, it definitely 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.840 meant something. And on top of that, but I was 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.000 I was angry because Tomorrow didn't make it, you know, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.680 and Tomriw was my guy. You know, Tomorrow everybody knows. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.800 It's like the engine guy, you know, he he was 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.640 the glue guy. You know, he did a lot to 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:43.880 help us win. And it just sucks, you know, to 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.640 see that he didn't. He didn't be a part of 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.120 that that moment, you know what I mean. 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.480 So you know, for me, it was a. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.000 Bittersweet moment, but definitely was good. Glad I had my 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:51.440 other guys. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.440 I was gonna ask that question, the topic being if 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.960 everybody on the start five make that that All Star team, but. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:04.560 You don't he got paid know that next summer? Yeah, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:05.400 lesson at the bank. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.280 That's what it's about. Did y'all used to ever run 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.880 like a special play that cha knew? Couldn't nobody stop? 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:13.440 Just proved from. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.360 I know, I remember we had we had some go 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:18.040 to plays. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.320 I would just asking be trying to get his players 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.480 to Ryan most of them out. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.440 You know when when when Kyle Kover came off of screen, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.640 he had the whole building looking at him. Yeah, you know, 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.640 and when he made that either he was had an 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.720 open shot or he made the pass down. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.480 I mean we got that every single time, every. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.200 Single Yeah, that was easy. I remember it's a video 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:41.840 going around. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.200 Well, I think you scored eleven points in like a 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.440 minute or something like that. You're like, it's crazy, he checked. 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.520 And I just remember like we usuedl to just throw 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.640 the ball anywhere we would be. You'd be running around 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.320 like he gonna shoot it. It's good, Like every time. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.840 I never really thought you were ever gonna miss Like 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.880 when you missed, I was more like surprised, like you 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.040 missed him. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.440 But I think, you know, we're sharing the love here, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:13.040 which I think is great. But you know, like I 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.800 was a product of how we played, right, Like I 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:22.400 remember you and Kenny Atkinson watching so many clips of that, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.960 like why like when exactlyte is Kyle want to have 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:26.400 the ball and where does he want to have? You 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.240 remember that that back little gym over there like and 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:30.960 you would watch it and then we come talk about 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.440 it and we watch it and come and talk about 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.520 it and like the screens and all the movement, like. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.800 It was just perfectly set up for me. So it 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.720 was wonderful. Man, I love coming off all those screens. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.480 What's the most thudies you hit in the game that season? 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.600 You remember, it's a whole new world out there. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:49.720 Now many. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:52.880 You would have had to shoot fifteen? 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.880 Yeah, you think you would have been able to rock 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.040 out in this league today. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:03.880 For sure? 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.639 Yeah, I'm just like that. 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.400 Before we go further the season for y'all being his teammates, 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.320 how it's like to see him now, Like because obviously 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:18.600 you know he didn't really talk too much. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.439 To see him on this platform, is. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.680 That like a man that doesn't talk as a podcast 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.040 saying I saw Jeff he was a scout for us, 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.119 and then the next day he had a podcast and 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:33.000 it was like nationally and ranked, Like, I'm like, okay, Jeff, 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:34.199 tell them stories. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:38.800 I'm definitely not surprised. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.960 I mean, Jeff talked when in the right situations, you know, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.720 with the right topics either in that and you know 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.159 he'll spill whatever, so you know, I'm not surprised, but definitely, 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.280 you know, congratulations, appreciate appreciate it. 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:53.840 Love for sure. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.480 Like you said, y'all go into the All Star break. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.000 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.280 Now it's time to all right real say something about 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.320 All Star game. Y'all Remember how cold it Wasn't it 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:03.320 so cold? 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.200 I was talking to my wife about that this morning. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.520 It was awful. It was like negative thirty. 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:10.560 It was so bad. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:11.280 It was cold. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.840 I just remember my room service we had. I told 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.639 this story about my nephew. I had this room service 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.080 bill that was like eight grand. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:20.520 Right, Yeah. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.800 I was like, y'all was saying the same thing, and 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.800 he was. I guess he thought he was on home alone. 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.840 So he was just ordering everything. And I remember going 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.200 to the off about to check out, and I seen 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:33.959 Bud and we remember we was running kind of late, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:34.879 and but was like. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:35.479 I got it all. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.400 I got everything. And I looked at him, I said, 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.520 good luck. I walked to that bus so fast. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:45.960 Funny think about that. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.160 His nephew is now working off his dad at five twenty, 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:52.320 so he's still covering that bill for sure. Yeah, shout 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.520 out tobacle. But like you said, man, have a crazy 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.040 all start breaking down. It was back to the season 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.040 at this point, y'all locked in. Yeah, I feel like 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.720 it's time to contind. What's the process, Like, all right, 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.160 we got a chance to really make some noise. 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.600 Now say it again. I couldn't hear it. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.719 Oh my father, I said, Okay, so now after All 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.080 Star break, everything's copoesteadic. Y'are playing good. It's not surprised anymore. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.040 It's like, all right, do y'all have championship aspirations? Like 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.080 what's that locking in? Like, or like all right, we here, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:17.840 we can do it now? 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:19.080 Yeah? 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.080 Absolutely, that was the goal. You know, I think we 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:26.359 had a moment. I think I remember looking at the 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.879 standings a couple of weeks after All Star break, and 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.200 we were like thirteen games ahead of whoever was in 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:32.879 second place. 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.240 We were so far ahead, and. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.160 I think there was this whole mindset of like, okay, 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.040 how do we prepare ourselves to really get into a 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.399 playoff run? And a lot that was based on like 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.320 let's be fresh and let's be healthy and let's have 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.520 our minds right. And so that's kind of where we 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.119 were going, right, like trying to prepare ourselves to like 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.920 to be fresh. I thought that in that stretch, I thought, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.440 you know, a lot of how it made us great 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.320 was just like our edge and how connected we were, 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.680 and I thought a little bit of Like, in that 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.000 next month and a half or so, we lost a 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:05.560 little bit of that. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:06.280 If I'm being. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.920 Honest, We're just like we were just so far ahead 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.679 of everybody, and you know, we lost a little bit 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.080 of that with whatever was making us really really tick 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:16.960 going into the playoffs. 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:18.240 Hmm. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.120 Yeah, we started like subbing five in and five out. 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.240 It was kind of weird. I remember Paul got mad 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.720 one day. He was like, man, we can't play like this, 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.639 like I can't catch a rhythm. I just remember that 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.040 because bub was south and five in, five out. That's 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:37.840 when my stat started hurting. No, but I was just 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:39.960 like you said, we took our foot off the gas 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.399 a little bit. But I just remember Lebron at the 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.960 All Star Game saying to me like, I'm gonna figure 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.680 y'all out. And I was like, you know, studying we 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.560 were doing. We don't even know what we're doing, like 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.720 we're just playing. And he was like, no, y'all got y'all, 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.439 got y'all got something going. I'm gonna figure it out. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.760 When I figure it out, I'm gonna get you. And 0:20:57.840 --> 0:20:59.920 I was like, we don't know, Bro, I was like, 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:02.320 we just be playing and he. 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.720 Was like, nah, he sure figured it out. 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:07.800 He didn't do that. 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.680 I think that whole that whole stretch, you know, I think, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.159 you know, I don't want to speak for Bud, but 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:15.800 it was for us to try to We knew who 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.560 we were going to face at some point, right, we 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.359 knew exactly who we were going to play, and you know, 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.240 what was going to be our best lineups, what was 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.320 going to be our best plays, our best strategy, you know, 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.280 going up into that moment. So that whole time was 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:36.040 pretty much like a figuring out process, and like Jeff said, 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.560 it didn't work. But I think I think that we 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.840 had moments, you know, I don't want to get too 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.119 far ahead, but you know, even during the course of 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.160 the season where we knew that whether it's one play 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.680 or two plays that we took our foot off the 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.200 gas that you know, could have elevated us to the 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.840 next level, right, And sometimes it'd be like that, you know, 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.679 especially in this league, is you know, one or two 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:00.480 plays can kind of throw your rhythm off in a game, 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.560 within the season, within the playoff series, and you know, 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.200 we had a couple of those. We were able to 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.800 shake back a few times, but you know, someone we had, 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.000 we just had too many going into that back season. 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.359 That's interested you say that because I'll take it to 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.960 a February game I had against Golden State and I remember, 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:17.560 you know that kind of a little bit of for 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:19.320 shot them, but the way yall played against it was 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.800 just like, oh they can do this against anybody. Yeah, 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.399 and like that that after style and not saying this 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.360 direct cord relation, but how y'all played the free moving 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.000 basketball like kind of soon where it was like, oh, 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:29.520 they can do this against anybody. 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.600 Now it's up. So to hear you say that there 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.920 would transpires that that's very interesting for sure. 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:35.600 Yeah. 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.440 I mean, you know, we looked at Golden State and 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.200 how they how they played, and you know, we wanted 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.400 to be the Eastern Conference type of you know, Golden 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:42.160 State Warriors team. 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:42.640 At that time. 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.560 We had Kyle Korba, who we considered the best shooter 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.359 in the league, and we ran a lot of stuff 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.200 you know through Kyle. Cow was a big part of 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.600 our offense because you know, he's dangerous behind the three 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.240 point line, you know, And and that opened up a 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:01.399 lot of windows for myself. Jeff and everybody else. And 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:04.600 but you know when that shut down, you know what 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.480 were our next options? And I think those are the 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.720 time kind of the things we struggled with at that time. 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:11.879 You know, what else are we going to do? You know, 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:13.560 do we have a counter for the counter for the 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:17.520 counter and you know, and Lebron figured it out and 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.159 shut it down, and those type of things took us 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:21.760 out of our rhythm for sure. 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:22.960 Man. But I want to talk about wait, you know 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:24.520 what I'm saying before we get to that part where 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:29.399 y'all was still killing. The city was really behind y'all obviously, 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:30.880 you know what I'm saying. That has a great fan base. 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.400 You know, Hawks has some up and down years. Y'all 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:34.440 had some good years before with Joe Josha obviously, but 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.080 the city was really behind y'all. Like the way you 0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:38.840 even see like you used to go to Hawks the game, 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:40.680 the opposing team might have had more in the crowd 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:41.280 that time period. 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.040 Nah, it was up and see what's that like? Feeling 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.159 that love? And know what I'm saying on off the 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:45.760 court yard in the city, y'all still killing on the 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:46.159 court too. 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.280 Yeah, I was in the city, so I used to 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:53.600 you know, they didn't go outside. I was outside, so 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:56.040 I got a chance to see that. You know, the 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:57.680 people talk to you like when we love what you 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.359 guys are doing. They was excited about our team. And 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.840 then the fans, like the arena used to be lit, 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.200 like every time Kyle hit a three, you hear three 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.480 and all that stuff. It was lit, even Dennis when 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.320 they used to say God, Eme and all that stuff. 0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.640 It was just the time was just amazing. That year 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.600 was unbelievable. And I have been here already for I 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.240 think six or five or six years by then. The 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.359 crowd I was like, man, it's just I haven't played 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.440 in front of the crowd like this shit. And it 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:26.400 was lit every game. 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:29.120 He represented, weal for y'all outside, okayl. 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.719 Oh Man Man, I think you know, I think when 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.240 I first got here there was some criticism of like, 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.840 you know, what's the atmosphere like at the games? And 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.760 in the middle of that season when everything turned like 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:43.920 like what they said, this place it was. It was 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.560 so fun games man, and everything that you guys have 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.199 built now is just added on to that as far 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.080 as the experience, but like there was a real appreciation. 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.399 I think what I felt for like how we played 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.560 the game, and like the intention of like you know, 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.879 the players trying to make each other better, playing in 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.720 a certain style, even overachieving to a certain like we 0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:08.720 we all knew, like you know this, this is a 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.000 group that needs each other. And there was like the 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:15.159 purest in Atlanta that came out. Everybody loved it and 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:17.600 enjoyed it, and it's just it's just it's it was 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.399 a team that I love to play on. It was 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.000 a team that was fun to root for, just because 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:26.240 of the posture that everyone had towards the actual style 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:26.800 of play. 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:27.719 That was happening out there. 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:33.120 Most definitely, so obviously keep killing you get to the playoffs. 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.959 You talk about that environment. What's that first home playoff 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:36.439 game like. 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.560 A breeze. We knew we was gonna win the first round, 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:45.600 Like that was easier game too. It wasn't No, it 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.359 was Brooklyn, was it? I don't know who we played. 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:49.680 People played Brooklyn. It was Brooklyn. 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:50.960 It's one of those games. 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:55.160 Yeah, but I knew, like we knew we had, we knew. 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.359 I wasn't worried about them at all. The team I 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.320 was worried about was like Washington. I think that's what 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.400 we played next in the second round. I was like, yeah, 0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:05.000 this might get a little tricky. My defense was never 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:10.760 the best, that's problem. I was like, themar you might 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:12.320 want the best. 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.000 Tomorrow, you might have to switch. 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:17.880 Washington was good that year. 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:19.439 Yeah, they were really good, really good. 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.879 Yeah. I think we were good against teams that didn't 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:23.479 execute well. 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.560 You know, we were good against teams who didn't communicate 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:30.280 on defense, and we just knew teams that we were 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:33.040 going to beat because we were going to right. 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.960 And that first round was definitely. 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.320 I had a business for sure. Like you said, I 0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.920 get it to Washington. You know what, I'm saying, different series, 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.479 but I still prevail. And let's talk about that final matchup. 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:45.920 You know what I'm saying, all chips on the table. 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.040 What's that environment like preparing to go into that because 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:54.400 you're playing against Lebron. I was excited. I was like, yeah, 0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:56.160 I think we can beat them because in the regular season, 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.600 Lea we didn't. We beat them pretty good every time. 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.960 And I was like yeah, and I've seen the first play. 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.080 He ran a pick and roll with me. I was like, Oh, 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.720 that's what we're gonna do the whole game. You're gonna 0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.920 bring me in a pick and roll, like it's over. 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.360 So you knew that he figured it out. 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.280 Yeah, I was like, why you keep calling me up 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.040 in a pick and roll? Was trying to get that 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.000 switch it was over. I was like, I can't go Lebron, 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:23.120 I couldn't guard Delly. 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.200 What you think went wrong? 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:31.920 It wasn't. 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.480 The reason was it was not that. 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:34.399 It was not that. 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.920 It was not that just funny I was. 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.680 I was thinking like, well, yeah, I ain't throwing my 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.000 guy a bus like that was not you know what 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:45.719 I mean. 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.520 We got we had some injuries too, right, Yeah, definitely. 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.200 I mean I feel like I didn't get to compete 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.480 in that whole series, right, I got the second game, 0:27:55.480 --> 0:28:00.960 but I mean there, Yeah, the playoff plays as you 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.280 play and you play in the regular season, and you 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:04.960 play in the first couple of rounds and you play 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.000 in the last couple of rounds. They're all different, right, 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.240 there's levels. And I think that was a group for 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.360 them that they had, like Lebron had been through more 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.240 of those third and fourth rounds, Like third and fourth 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.959 rounds are different, and that was our first time as 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.160 a group going through that, and there's not I don't 0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.720 know of any groups that go through it together the 0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:28.600 first time and get it right right. So I think 0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.440 there's a whole lot of grace in my mind for 0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.600 for that group. Like I thought that I thought that 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.879 we showed like who we are, and I thought that 0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.960 we showed throughout the regular season especially like like we 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.840 like a Paul said, like we actually beat them, I 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:45.600 think three of the four times, right, But those late 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.640 rounds are different, and it's it's it's something you have 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.000 to just keep on experiencing and building on and adding 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:51.480 to and like this is this is sport. 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.080 That's what it is exactly for the fans in here 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:55.520 obviously who don't have that feeling. 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.440 Obviously playing at home, different environment, what's it like playing 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.240 on a road in the high intensity situation. 0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.240 It's the best, It's the best. 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:04.000 It's the best. 0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:10.480 There's nothing in sport like silencing a home crowd. There's 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:11.160 nothing like it. 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:12.280 It is the best. 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.520 And then and then you know, it's a bunch of 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:16.840 a bunch of teams in this league that have great 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.360 home crowds. But when you can sign the team in 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.200 the playoffs like it is the best. 0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.200 I thought we were gonna win Game three. I remember 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.520 that plays in my head a lot. I thought we 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.719 won Game three and Lebron was Lebron. 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.280 He's good. 0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:34.440 Yeah, he's pretty good. 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:34.840 It's good. 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:36.760 That was up. 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:41.600 What happened we went over time that game. Uh, he 0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.800 hit a three in the corner, okay, and tied it up. 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.360 I thought he kind of cramp magically he came back. 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.560 I'm like, I like, I'm like, kind of cramp. He's done, 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:53.440 he's back. 0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.920 We lost in overtime. I think Shoven might have got 0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:58.880 a shot to win the game or the tide of 0:29:58.920 --> 0:29:59.480 game something. 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.360 And granted, I mean we we felt like we played okay, 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.600 but they played exceptionally well. 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.600 They shot the ball historically historically, you know. 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.320 First I remember the first quarter. I don't think they 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:14.040 went on the run where they didn't miss it a shot. 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.520 I think they went on like our defense was kind 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.160 of well, who we said was gonna let shoot? 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.520 I mean j R. Smith was knocking down shots. I 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.040 mean it was they got in a rhythm that you 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.560 know in basketball, you get in a rhythm like that, you. 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.840 Know you have to stop it. You have to stop 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.280 the rhythm. Yeah, and you know, we just got ourselves 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.840 dug ourselves too big of a hole. By not getting 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.760 them out of that rhythm in the first, first or 0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.160 second quarter. And you know, when you're on the road 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.320 and you're upin it's a good team, you're up against 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.880 Lebron James. It's tough to come back from me, you know. 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.120 But I felt like we definitely fought and we had 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.400 opportunities to change the rhythm and change the dynamic of 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:51.320 the series. 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.080 We just didn't capitalize on it. You don't want to 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.520 know something funny about that. You remember when Jr. Started 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.320 hitting those sories. I came to the benches, I got 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.640 them and I got on here. The next one, I 0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.640 was like, I got him all chasing my gout him 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.960 cause okay, he came up with screen hit another, but 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:10.640 you go back over there. 0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.680 I don't know who I thought was I'm five to 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:20.560 the funny funny as you mentioned. 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:21.720 That you talk about the Lebron picker ros that was 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.760 a clipble around, like Lebron demands that pick a roll 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:24.440 for like four or. 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.800 Five times in a row, and then you're just all right, bro, Yeah, 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:27.640 he kept doing it. 0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:28.080 I knew. 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:29.840 I was like they figured it out, trying to get 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.920 the switch. Then we had the double they was gonna 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.800 kick it out, get a three. I was like, son, 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:34.240 we can do. 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.000 I was definitely obviously, you know, season came up a 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:38.800 little bit short of expectations. But you guys had a 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.800 hell of a season obviously, playing the different situations past that. 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.840 How does it make like the memory of this team feel. 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:45.760 When you go back and like, all right, I played 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.160 different places after this, but the camaraderie we had this 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:49.520 magical season still lives on. 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:54.200 Oh. 0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.720 I mean, for me, I went to Devil after that. 0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.239 A lot of young guys, you know, but a lot 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.680 of young, honky guys. They were hungry, you know, all 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.920 they needed was a little bit of mentorship to get 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.760 them over the edge. But as far as locker room presence, 0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.840 I mean, I don't think there'll ever be another, you know, 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.560 situation like we had in Atlanta anywhere else, you know, 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.400 everywhere else. You know, guys are cool and whatever, but 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.160 the bond just goes from there, you know. For us, 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.160 you know, we we knew each other's families, We went 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.560 out to dinner, you know, on the road, we had 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:31.320 team bonding. 0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:32.000 You know. 0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.920 We went to the to the to the what is it, 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.960 the Braves you know stadium and played baseball man. You 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:40.600 know as a team, you know, we did things like 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.520 that that you know, when it gets on the court, 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.280 it makes it a lot easier to to jail with 0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:47.000 a team, you know. So you know there's a lot 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:48.400 not a lot of teams out there doing that. 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:49.200 Sure. 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:55.640 Yeah, yeah, man, that team lives on in me. I'll 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:56.080 just say that. 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.360 Like for me, it's almost like when there's someone that 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:01.680 you admire in life and they pass away or something 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.520 happens and it's like you take what was good great 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.360 in that and you want that inside of you. 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.719 Like that's what that group is for me, Like there 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.000 was it was so pure, Like. 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.200 I always tell, like I'm told when I talk to 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.320 kids about basketball, and it's always younger, it's like enjoyed 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.520 us because the higher you go it may be more rewarding, 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:25.840 but it loses its purity. Yeah, And it's not often 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.960 that you get to be around and being a group 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.240 in the NBA where like we were all about the 0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.760 right stuff and like a lot of like were for 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.760 me now as we're working on building out the. 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:37.440 Hawks like that. 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.640 It's it's not necessarily the blueprint, but it is a 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.400 north star all the way, and you want to try 0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.280 to you know, continue to add more talent and and 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.520 all those things. But like how that worked, Like going back, 0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.360 just thinking back about how this team came together. It 0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.440 wasn't necessarily about adding a bunch of superstars and figuring 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:59.160 out like you got really good humans who love to work, 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.040 who were or love their craft, right, you got really 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.920 really good coaches, like the coaching staff that we had 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.880 that year, like Coach Bred, it was coach Bud. But 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.520 then think about all the coaches we had. Quinn Snyder 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.080 was there the first year and then he left. 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:13.720 We had. 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:20.320 You had Kenny Akison, you had Nevin who's been a 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.239 coach in Europe forever. You had Charles Lee, you had 0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.120 Taylor Jenkins, you had those are just head coaches who've 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.280 been on the league. You got assistant coaches. Ben Sullivan's 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:33.680 been a top assistant. You got Pants Pats and Andrews. 0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.600 You got Jordan Ott who was in the video room. 0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.400 Like these guys are all front of the bend coaches, 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.200 Like that's who was teaching us every day what it 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.759 meant to play Hawks basketball. Right, So it's like this 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.239 this is the formula for me, Like I'm pulling from 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:51.080 that yere right, Like that to me is like again, yes, 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.480 you add more talent, you try to find hopefully you 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.080 get a number one pick and he becomes an amazing player. 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.279 But like like this is the formula to me, and 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.800 like it is deep in me, Like I have a 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.320 like I have a real love of the game of basketball, 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.000 Like it's what drives me. It's why I want to 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.680 keep on working in this business. And that again is 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:14.160 like a north Star Like it was a wonderful, wonderful experience. 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.320 Like the bonds and the friendships that we had with 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.000 these guys is real when we see each other, like 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.400 it is love. But you go through heartaches and playoff 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.640 series and you bond and your work like there's things 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.320 that happen in those moments that you can't get in 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:32.000 any other way. And yeah, it's just a it's a 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.360 group and a team that, like I said, like I 0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:35.440 will pull from the rest. 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:35.759 Of my life. 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.520 Yeah, for me, as far as basketball on the court, 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.319 I never went to a team that had that same 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.600 synergy and energy together, you know what I mean. So 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.560 I went to go play for the Pacers two years later, 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.640 and like you said, I'm winking at guys and they like, nah, bro, 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.040 what you got going on, I'm like, cut back doward. 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.239 So I'm like, it just wasn't the same. 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.560 I went there and I thought, like everybody else were 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.440 done basketball players after playing on that team, you know 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.359 what I mean, Like we just read each other well, 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.560 we knew everybody's movement, we knew everybody was going to 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.839 be on the court, and then going to these different teams, 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.600 it wasn't the same. So I'm used to somebody setting 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.840 a backscreen so you can get a wide open jump shot, and. 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.879 They like, nah, beat him, beat your man. 0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:23.200 I'm like, y'all don't like play together at all, Like 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.640 I gotta run to the corner every time, like nah. 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.239 So it just was a beautiful way to play basketball. 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.920 I enjoyed that so much that I even try to, 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:33.480 like I'm a coach now, I try to bring that 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.319 same philosophy when we play move the ball, everybody get 0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.279 a chance to score. No, no go to guy, but 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.160 everybody can be the guy. And that was just a 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.000 beautiful way to play. 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.160 Just to pay back off that, I mean, I don't 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.959 know if everybody know that, you know an NBA team, 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:52.600 you spend more time with your teammates than you do 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:57.680 your family. So we see each other every single day, right, 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.920 and you don't get that feeling, you know, once you 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.840 get up to the door and say, damn, I go 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:02.359 to work again. 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:03.960 I gotta go in here again. Right. 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:05.879 You had people who you wanted to play with, people 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:09.000 who understood you, and that's what made it so special. 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.719 Definitely, how we talked about the soft camera. Did you 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.480 know that she was going to be the team statrician? 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:15.920 Because you know some of your teammates. You know what 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:17.160 I'm saying, they lived a different life. You know what 0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:18.000 I'm saying in the kitchen. 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.840 Hey, I mean guys you say didn't drink water, and 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:22.560 what I'm saying. 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.640 Oh my gosh, man, we had you guys. We had 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.479 guys that didn't drink water on our team. 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.480 I'm like, you are an NBA basketball player. Your job 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.120 is to run on the court. How do you not 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:35.799 drink water? 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.560 And like when did you start paying how taste? 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.800 I'm like, I don't like how it tastes. It tastes 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:41.359 like water. 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:47.480 Listen, you guys, one of them may or may not 0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.279 be on the stage, wouldn't drink water. 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.960 They're getting like ivs before the game, like hooked up 0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.279 to an IV so they can play. 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.239 I'm like, man, just drink this cup of water. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.680 That's crazy. I couldn't believe you. It was living like that, Paul. 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.960 Oh Man, listen, man, legendary team Man, the city remembers 0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.560 you the city and braces your shots to everybody here, 0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.719 all here because of this very reason. Man, you might 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:22.719 want to answer that text time tax. Then are we 0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:26.200 opening up to the crowd by chands? Okay, open up 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:27.560 to the crowd. I have a couple of questions, a 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.640 couple like questions before we get out of here. Anybody 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:34.160 braving up? My man's no, yeah, you chans, yeah, go ahead. 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:48.759 Oh wow, it's on the way. 0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:50.520 It's on the way. Man, we're gonna play. We're gonna 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.200 we're gonna get that game. We're gonna get that game. 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.680 Yeah, we're starting to over under right now. Please PLA's 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:59.879 your best dracton, gentlemen. And yes, sir, I could start 0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.200 it if you go look at our numbers how many 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.960 minutes we played. We didn't play hot numbers of minutes 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.080 like I think we played like twenty six a game 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.600 I did like around that time. So, uh, Dennis shooter 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:16.440 points it was great. Then yeah, I was kept then 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.480 his shooter was great. Even Shovin mack Ken Baizmore came 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.440 off that bench. It was a bunch of guys. Mike 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.960 Scott my guy. They had amazing seasons like that whole year. 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.799 Everybody played well and we all just wanted everybody to win. 0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:31.640 It was crazy, Like he said, we'd be on a 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.439 plane playing, you know, and all that stuff. And those 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.799 were my guys. I mean, me and Dennis we. 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:38.080 Used to go out of it a little bit, but 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.880 other than that, we love it. I love those guys. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.640 Dennis was like, because we were all a pretty steady group, right, Yeah, 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.000 Like Dennis was like the little brother that you needed 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:54.279 to get under your skin, agitate you, yeah, get you going. 0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.000 And it was he was a super important part of 0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:58.239 We needed it right. 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.160 We needed guys like that. We need a guy like 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:04.319 Elton Brand and Pariantage and Michael Schala and I mean 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.640 there's so many guys who starting their role for for 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:10.279 that group and we're about the team. 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.600 It's a long list that was. It was a It 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:14.319 was a great group. 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.839 Definitely jump in the back. Yes, sir, I've seen Budd 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:19.440 at a concert. 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:20.919 Yeah. 0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:22.680 He used to take his kids to all the concerts. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.799 Here and I've seen him and uh, they were having 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.040 a good time. He didn't know any of the songs, 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.600 but he was viobbing out. I'm scared to ask which 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:32.200 artist it iss? 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:33.880 We was. 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:38.160 We was messing up some comments that Night's go see 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:46.080 future shout out, No, sir. 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.439 I would I love to have known, one hundred percent 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.120 under there's injuries are part of this whole of this 0:40:56.200 --> 0:41:01.359 whole equation. It is every year for every team. There's 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:02.640 a lot of things that have to go right if 0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:04.880 you still be playing at the very very end. And uh, 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.960 you know, I wish we could have had a full squad, 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.160 but for sure, and last one, bring your ma Ma 0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:12.560 in front. 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.480 Yeah, I like that. 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.120 That's hard. Yeah, I like that very away. 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.120 I got all you grew up in. 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.240 Brother Weeds, pull it up or appreciate that for sure. 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.160 Unfortunately are out of time. We want to say thank 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.080 you all for pulling up. We appreciate y'all. Make a 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:34.759 noose for y'rself and push up two times for our 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.680 wonderful guests up here. We appreciate Paul and Kyle pulling up. 0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.480 The Hawks appreciate the hospitality as well. We'll see y'all 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:45.040 another Time Club five twenty, the volume
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