2025-12-08- KSR - Hour 1

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Monday, December the eighth. I am Matt Jones, Ryan Lemon Drew Franklin in studio as is Shit of the Dude. You can give shown Macclock's pumping Shop fol line eight five to nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. A Vision Auto Glass text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five to four. In this edition sponsored by the T J. Smith Law Office. If you call TJ He'll make them pay. Uh. Ryan Drew A, I don't know what you would say, sad or angry, probably moving towards angry weekend across a big blue nation. Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: It's been a long time I think that we've seen the fan base like this about our basketball program.

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Speaker 4: But it is. It is really bad, shockingly bad. I mean, Drew, we'll get to the scene in Nashville, But would you have thought ten games into year two you would have seen this level of anger in BBN.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 7: And we've now it's been a few days since that game, and I am actually still in the disbelief phase of what I watched and mostly what I heard from the fans in Nashville. I didn't have much faith in the game. We've seen the team lately. They have big problems. But to look that bad and get that response from some of your most passionate fans, I still can't even believe it happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, aff nine two eight twenty two eighty seven, you can give us a shout. Uh. Text machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two five four Uh. I'd be remiss if I didn't start off by saying just a lot of gratitude towards all of you from the weekend. You know, it's been it's been a tough week for uh, for for my family and me. And you know, the various pieces of news about my dad have actually come out during the games on the right game days of Tuesday and Friday, and uh, but people have had an amazing response, just overwhelming, and I we all, myself, my parents really appreciate everyone. Uh. You know, it's it's it's a difficult situation, but my dad is is is back home, and I'm gonna kind of leave the rest of the stuff, uh, sort of private with my family. But I I I hope you all will understand over the course for me coming on and doing this show, to be quite frank frank with you can be a good distraction from what's going on, and that's kind of what I would like to do as much as possible. But there may be times that I in the coming weeks have to be gone and I hope people understand that. And you know, Ryan Drew, thank you guys for stepping in this weekend, and I'm sure stepping in the future. We were supposed to go next week, not this week, but next week on our yearly kind of December road trip. We're not gonna do that right now, we'll still be around. I'm still gonna be around, but I think it's probably better for us to maybe postpone that maybe until January. We'll see what happens. But Ryan Drew, I want to thank you guys and Shannon for really being such good friends during all this and helping out. Man.

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Speaker 6: You know, we got your back to just hang in there, be strong. We all love Larry life don't even a couple of curve balls. But he's a tough old guy man. And if they making beat fight this, it's Larry Vondelle, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell him you said that tough old gosh. Make sure that that's what we passed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all here for you, man, and keeping in our thoughts and just let Larry know that that we're thinking about them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I appreciate that. And you know this, uh, at times, sort of doing this and doing it in a public way and having to go through situations like this in a public way can sometimes actually make it more difficult, but then also sometimes UH can can make it really positive in terms of how people react. So but anyway, I hope you understand in doing this show and kind of going forward. It's just it's it is kind of a good distraction for me, and we will we will progress on in that way. And you know, I love my parents more than anything. And Larry, Larry's a fighter and and and will continue to do so. So shifting gears. A lot of the stuff that happened happened with me on Friday, So I missed a great deal of the When I turned the game on, Drew it was nineteen to two. Oh my, I thought I'm gonna miss a little bit. Did not think I was gonna turn it on and it was going to be nineteen to two. You were there. I want you to do me two favors. First of all, explain to me the scene in the arena, because I generally believe that Nashville provides the best of Kentucky crowds, literally the best, even better than Rapperena. Nashville is the best. What was it like leading into the game and then sort of what happened not so much on the court, but in the crowd during the course of the game.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're right about Nashville.

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Speaker 7: That was BBN at its best, and then maybe it's worst as it went on. I thought Gonzaga fans might travel because when they played it up, they barred brought a good crowd. Of course Seattle that's close to them, but they had a lot of the fans there. There weren't many Gonzaga fans in that arena. It was all blue. I hung around. Yeah, it was full, and it's that SEC tournament. The rowdy crew that you know you mentioned. It's not the normal season ticket holders that have been spoiled by having seats for so many years. These are the people that don't get to go to many games, and they sure showed out. Going into it was a little weird because everyone was excited, but the confidence wasn't high. We kind of went in just waiting to see what Kentucky could do. But then minutes into the game when they're on that scoring drought, I mean, the reaction in there it was just truly shock. And then when they finally scored to break the drought, the sarcastic cheering our first basket whatever minutes into the game was I mean, I couldn't help but laugh, but it was like I'm ticked off laugh. I just I couldn't believe we were in that state.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I want to talk about the buoy because that's gotten a lot of attention amongst the fan base and amongst the outside college basketball world, because it is not something you see a lot in college basketball. But let's first run, I guess talk about performance. I mean, we got absolutely demolished, ninety four to fifty nine. I'm not sure. I was trying to think of a time I think Kentucky has been more thoroughly dominated in a way like that. I mean a couple times I think we've lost by more points, but this was, in some ways maybe the worst beating that I've ever seen Kentucky take because it was from moment one. There was never one since where the game was even moderately competitive. And I think it was a combination, and I think this is part of why there's so much frustration with the fan base. Combination of talent, which clearly is part of it, but also a combination combined that with want to This was it. I mean when I say they quit, that would assume that at some point it felt like they were in it. Even with that crowd and even with that Jews. It was a team of no energy and just it was an embarrassment. It was. I'm not gonna say it's the worst loss in UK history. There have been worse, but you know, the Oakland's, the Saint Peters, et cetera. But in terms of most humiliating performances, Ryan, I don't know if there's been one. Do you know?

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Speaker 6: It was as poor a performance as I've ever seen. And you mentioned there there's been some bad losses, but this time they were they were gutless. There was no effort, there was no energy, there was no focus. On the postgame show, Jack Gibbons said, I knew it from the pregame warm ups that there they were coming out flat like they weren't ready to play.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the pregame warm ups for just a second, because Jack said that. But I was getting messages, so you know, it was kind of weird because of what was going on. I had my phone sometimes, I didn't have it sometimes and I sort of looked like an hour into it, I got on the text machine, and Ryan, on your point about pregame warm ups, I had multiple people writing me saying they were at the game and they're like, Gonzaga is running like a military asque warm up where they're like doing drills, et cetera. And the Kentucky guys are standing around talking to people. Talk to me about that. What are they talking about there? Because I got multiple people saying that before the game even started.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was Gonzaga. They were getting themselves mentally and physically ready to play, while Kentucky looked like I think they were out there just shooting baskets, getting ready to pay a pick up game. Like there was no focus. A Jack kept using that word, like you could tell they just weren't focused, no energy at all, trying to get ready for to play this huge game. But they have huge crowds. You chant and go big blue although throughout the arena, and you can't get up for it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we don't even like you don't even have to really go over the details of the game because it was everything you can do. We did poorly. We did not have energy. The rebounding right after we'd had multiple we talked about this offensive rebounding thing. Another game where we get absolutely demolished, and there are multiple videos online on Tick talking on on Twitter of showing our lack of hustle. Basically guys not getting back, guys not in the right position. There's a really damning, like two and a half minute clip of this guy just showing all of Kentucky's errors, also showing Mark Pope making bizarre coaching errors. They focus on inbounds place where we continue to put our center guarding the inbounder and end up with their ciner being guarded by a six or three guard, three different possessions, and Pope never changes it up. It drew. It's I can keep saying embarrassing. I don't want to keep doing that, but I can't think of a worse Kentucky performance where they did the name on the jersey less respect than that one.

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Speaker 7: I know, just moping around like they don't even talk to each other, talking about defending the realm. Grahamy k could have had one hundred points if he wanted easy. He was trust every single year. He at least the last couple of years he had to earn it a little bit. I mean there was It's like they didn't have any defense on him whatsoever. And with Pope, yeah, he wasn't making the adjustments. But this was my first game because I went as a fan. I'm not sitting up in the media seats. I'm a little closer to where Pope is and I was just watching him. I'm just as frustrated with how he looks like. He looks like he doesn't have a single care. Well, I's not care about an answer or any enthusiasm at all. When we talked about fans, we're supposed to be the crazy ones, and we're the ones that are terrified. He looks like he's more afraid than any fan in the crowd.

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Speaker 4: He looks defeated. To me, he looks completely defeated, and I am shocked by that. I thought, of all people that have ever coached here, you would never be able to defeat him in terms of energy. I mean, he's the guy that when he got hired, Shandon was out hugging people on the sidewalk like I mean, he's constant energy, and he looks defeated. He looks like a man who just hates his life. And they're just and there comes a point where you have to sit here and take a step back from the game and go what has happened? I mean, this program, it looks like the players cannot stand each other. Yeah, it looks like they almost have zero desire to be on the court. They make terrible errors. We can talk about the design and roster build, and I think it's clearly faulty, But they're not even like they look like a bunch of guys that just met each other and don't and they and don't want to be around each other. I've never seen anything like it, and I've never seen a coach that in four weeks. Ryan seems like a more different person than he did four weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you just got I am.

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Speaker 4: I am absolutely baffled by how bad they are.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure you got get the same messages I did. The people that were there, and Drew maybe can say this. They look on Pope's face like they said, I feel sorry for him. He looks like he has no idea what to do, like he's feel sorry for him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like him a lot, but I don't feel sorry for him like you. You can't. You're the leader, like sometimes you just have to be the one, even if it's put on a fake front. Drew, I don't feel sorry for him. You put this team together, you coached him. You told us when they were a ferrari like what's going on?

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Speaker 7: And that was a problem for me. Even before this game, like stick your chest out and be the leader of Kentucky basketball, Like why are you I keep using the braveheart reference, like we're at war and he's in the back of the pack, hiding behind the back line, back there when he's supposed to be in the front, putting on a good front. Some leadership here, Like just seeing looks so scared makes everyone else so scared.

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Speaker 4: Let's quote our good friend John cal Perry. There's no crime on the yacht.

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Speaker 6: No, there's not.

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Speaker 4: You're in Kentucky. You spent more money on this roster than anybody else in the country. You played here, you don't get to like when the ship's going down, you have to be at the front. And I I'm baffled. I'm baffled looking at guys that like otega Oway, who's okay although sometimes quit on plays, and I I don't know how much Shannon I can watch Denzel Aberdeen shoot anymore. And I and no one just standing out at the three point line, Like I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like a personality issue that this team has clashers and you see, like you know, loose balls that they are just not going after even being.

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Speaker 4: Going for Look, this roster is poorly constructed, Okay, and that's a different way. It's poorly constructed, but right, it ain't getting beat thirty five points in Nashville poorly constructed.

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Speaker 6: No, And I think that's the thing that scares me the most is like they're getting worse, Like they're progressively getting it's worse, getting worse.

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Speaker 4: The Louisville game was a loss, but actually, don't I think was something to be embarrassed by it. Agree, you played Louisville on the road, you played them hard, you came back, you had a shot. The Mischigan State loss was kind of embarrassing, but they're pretty good. I thought the North Carolina loss was embarrassing. But this is a whole, nother level. Yep, this is a whole Now. You don't lose by thirty five points to anybody at Kentucky and I am. I am at a loss for what has happened. Their roster is bad, badly constructed, but it's not this bad. Something has happened with this group, and Mark Pope has got to like, I don't want to say, hey, go figure it out, but figure it out because this is this is ridiculous. Now we do have to talk about the booty because that's a lot of people have had strong thoughts. We'll deal with that and take your calls next to our KASR. Who is this shin Fleetwood Mac? What's his name?

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Speaker 3: With song Monday Morning?

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Speaker 4: So you know, I've actually decided I like Fleetwood Mac. I had no exposure to them except for that song that they sang at Bill Clinton's inauguration. I can't remember what it is, and then silver Spring that was it. That's all I knew about him. And then over the years, whether it's that one that they say is the hardest song to play or this one, I've decided I like Fleetwood Mac. Is it just because I'm getting older? I think? So?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys hit the Fleetwood Mic age.

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Speaker 4: Where is it like forties or Fleetwood at Mac?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like mid forties you start.

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Speaker 4: To get Fleetwood Mac.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you go from nineties hip hop to I still.

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Speaker 4: Like that too, but I kind of like Fleetwood Mac. I meant to say this at the beginning and I forgot, So let me just go quickly on the schedule. I'm going to try to be here every morning show that I can. I may not always be in uh in studio or at the bar. I'll try to tell you when I am, but I'll try and trying to do as many of these as I can. I won't be doing the game stuff tomorrow. Hopefully going forward, I'll be able to do most of them. But but but I am going to try to do the morning shows. But I've just got to say up front, I don't know uh when I'll be like in person, but I'll be around as much as possible. So I just want I feel like I should let people know that because I know sometimes people come and want to see us and remotes we're going to try to do as well. A five nine, two eighth twenty two eighty seven. All right, So the booing, I'm not a booer, Okay, Like, I don't boo anyone except the umpires drew at the Reds game. That's really the only people I ever bow, right. I do boo the umpires at the Reds game because they're always cheating the Reds and I generally am a don't boot college kids. Now, the Nile situation has changed stuff a lot in that regard, and it has not changed the mind of whether or not I would boo, but I now understand why people boo a little bit more you were at the game. One of the things about booing is it can be only a few people, and it can sound like it's everybody, because booing's loud. Booing's louder than clappy. Sometimes you'll see like the president or something come to a game. It'll seem like the whole crowd's booing, but then they show individual shots and it'll only be a handful of people. It's just booing can be loud. You're there. What percentage of the audience, Drew, do you think was actually booing on Friday night?

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Speaker 5: Oh? It was a lot, is it?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was a whole lot.

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Speaker 4: And what do we say, what's a lot percent?

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Speaker 5: I'll go twenty. You know, it was like half of the crowd.

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Speaker 4: Twenty percent of the crowd was booing.

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Speaker 5: It felt like it.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't boo. And I'm not trying to say I'm too good to boot. My jaw was on the floor and just taking it all in. I'm looking around like, oh my god, Kentucky fans are booming the home team like again, that goes back to just the shock of so many things that happened that night, And can you.

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Speaker 4: Remember can anybody ever remember booze like that at a Kentucky It's happened sometimes in football. Can you ever remember any of you that level booing at a Kentucky basketball They.

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Speaker 7: Got booed by in the UNC Wilmington lost, But it wasn't a fraction of the booing.

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Speaker 2: But this was this was booing, was six minutes to go in the first half booing. This wasn't at the end of the game. There were only fourteen minutes into the game.

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Speaker 7: Ryan, do you not all boozs are the same. This was anger, This was coming from This was coming from the belly. This was like maybe even pent up, going back to past coaching eras and ok, this was like a release of I am so disappointed in this program the last several years.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, You've been around long as long as I have. But actually, at the games, can you ever remember it worse? Never? Never?

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Speaker 6: I mean it was loud and deafening and in the first half they booed our team off the court. At halftime, I've never seen that. I mean, it was a bad look for us, But I kind of outline, I'm like you I'm not a boorer. I wouldn't do it, but I understand why some of those people were. They spent a lot of money to watch that team and then they stunk it up.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a coll Okay, So I think I think you guys hit a majority of why. I think it happened, all right, So start with five or six years of kind of being disappointed about UK basketball.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a part of it. Like we've we've not been what's the steat We've been to the Saturday of the SEC Tournament once in the last seven years, something like that.

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Speaker 7: I think the last time we were there is twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh only been far as we've been to Sweet sixteen and that was last year in the last five or six years. So I think that's part of it. I think another part of it is that we've gotten progressively worse as the season goes around. That we spent allegedly twenty two million dollars on the roster. I think that numbers high, but we still probably spend as much as anybody in college basketball. That we were told by the staff and media who kind of believed it that this was gonna be a Ferrari that we lost at home to North Carolina on Tuesday, and then that we're in Nashville. Everybody's been drinking and party and it's that rowdy, fun Kentucky crowd. And the one thing Kentucky fans won't accept is quitting and not giving energy. We had a team last year that wasn't quite as talented, but it always felt like every single one of those guys gave you everything they had, and now this year you get the exact opposite, or at least it feels like the exact opposite. Drew. I think it's the combination of all that, and then you come off that moment and there's just this visceral sound and then when a couple people do it, more join in and you end up with this sort of chorus of booze. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, a lot of it was just the excitement of that trip. As we've said, you know, these this might be the only game a lot of people see in person all year, might be their only chance to show their frustration in the team. Then you throw in all the cocktails that people probably had before on the street, and just how bad that start was to go nine minutes without a basket after you just blew your last game by going ten minutes or whatever without a basket. A lot of people were bringing that up in the arena. How we've almost had twenty minutes of Kentucky basketball without a field goal?

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Speaker 4: What was it? Nineteen and a half minutes of Kentucky basketball with two field goals?

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Speaker 7: And that's when it just snapped, and it was I mean, I as that was a vicious boo. That wasn't all we're kind of disappointed, let's play better. That was I want you to feel how mad we are at you right now.

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Speaker 4: Nighteen and a half minutes of consecutive basketball against North Carolina and Gonzaga, basically at home with two field goals. I wouldn't have gone ahead, but I kind of understand. We'll take your calls. R after this KSR. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ he'll make them pay.

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Speaker 2: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. A five nine two eight twenty two eighty seven on the text machine seven seven two five two five four one person rights. Matt, I'll tell you why you don't see the effort. It's in il. These guys are making money, so they don't feel the need to try as hard. I don't buy that in.

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Speaker 6: The least other teams have nil guys.

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Speaker 4: Other teams are playing well. Like that. There's a high level of college basketball being played all over the country. I would argue outside of Lexington, Kentucky, this is some of the best basketball I've seen him ten years. Yep, you turn on these games. Dudes are giving it even when they're not playing well. I watched some of Michigan State duke guys diving everywhere, Dudes who are gonna have better pro futures than our guys, And yeah, I don't buy that. We are not giving effort. But I don't think it's the money. It's these guys in this team, So you got to adjust. Listen. I watched some of Shannon Ohio State Indiana football. Those dudes are making money. That game didn't even matter and they were going crazy, right, So yeah, I just don't I don't buy that. All Right, before we go to the phones, I want all four of us to take a vote trying to faure out what's the best way to worry about the booing acceptable or not? In twenty twenty five Kentucky at Gonzaga, not, do you understand is it acceptable to boo your team in that scenario?

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Speaker 6: Ryan, I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna say no, even though they make money.

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Speaker 3: That's predictable, even it is predictable.

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Speaker 4: Of all the four of us, that was the vote I was most clear we were getting was Ryan was an vote? Why NOx?

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Speaker 6: Why that you took it out of the equation understanding why just understanding?

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Speaker 4: Is it acceptable?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: It's not not your own team. Not like that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Like if if somebody did harm to your child and then you hurt that person, that might be you might understand, but it's not acceptable. Right, Yes, so this is a so but so you're saying that it's my vote?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, without hesitation. Yes, it's acceptable. They are really so bad. I mean, when you don't even try, that's a different story. If you're losing because shots aren't going in, or your bad matchup or your coaching fills, that's you take your loss and you go home. These are guys that are giving no effort, and in four games against teams with the pulse have lost by like a combined sixty five points.

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Speaker 5: So sure, it's.

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Speaker 7: Stinks that you bow your own team, but it stinks that your team doesn't show up when the lights come on.

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Speaker 4: To Shannon, it.

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Speaker 3: Is acceptable Ryan to boo that team.

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Speaker 2: When you're nine minutes into the game and your best offense is two free throws, you boo that team. These fans paid hundreds of not thousands of dollars to come to Nashville to watch that, and that deserves to be booed.

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Speaker 3: That was awful.

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Speaker 4: What do you think that if I'm not to it, I'll see I was hoping you wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you said all four of us, You're.

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Speaker 4: Including no I I was gonna just move on. No, Nope, I would not do it. I would not recommend doing But I also think because of the effort, it has nothing to do for me with the money, and it actually doesn't have to do with the performance. Okay, if I felt like everybody was given one hundred percent effort, engaged, connected, doing all they can and they just weren't good, then I can deal with that. That's then a problem of roster construction, and you deal with the coach and the people who picked the players, and I do think that's part of it. But when you're not giving effort, and that includes to me, the coaching staff. I sit there and watched the coaching staff just stare straight ahead yep for the entire game, like none the whole game. I like, to me, they didn't do anything the entire game. I think it is acceptable, And I can't believe I'm saying that. Two years ago, I would have said, you never bow college kids. Ever, I don't know. I think you never bow college kids if they at least make it seem like that doing this matters to them. If they're not good enough, well that's life. Sometimes we don't get what we want. But if they're not going to even give effort. I can't think of the Kentucky team that didn't give effort. Go to that terrible Kentucky team during COVID. They weren't good, but they tried. Olivier Saar tried every way to make a shot to win the game through it just never went in.

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Speaker 6: That was just a gutless It was a gutless performance.

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Speaker 4: I just can't remember. I can't remember a team that seemed to lie. I cannot remember any team that liked each other less than this.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's the big, mean dother question. Do you think a lot of it is internally?

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Speaker 4: It had? Well, I mean, at this point it has to be. Look, there have been teams that didn't like each other. Okay, team Turmoil in two thousand and two, they did not like each other. I don't really think that COVID team liked each other. But even amongst those teams, Severe Wheeler and Oscar didn't like each other. But even amongst those teams, they found ways on the court, sometimes drew to play connected, and there were even groups of players that liked each other. I'm not seeing these guys off the court don't like each other. I don't know, but I've never seen a team that is like not. They don't they don't get They look like they've just met all of them.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, he should have done it in a while ago. But whatever's going on, Pope needed to have a team meeting. Say y'all figure it out, because there's a lot of bigger things going on than whatever y'all have between yourselves. I mean, I don't Pope clearly doesn't have the fire that maybe some the potatos, the Kala Perrys have, but he's got to find something to light into them.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise, I don't know what you do. Heck through me.

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Speaker 7: I might start Walker Horn and Zach Talo tomorrow night and try to send a message, because whatever he's telling them in the locker room, it's not only not working, it's making them go the opposite direction. They're getting worse and seem to hate each other more and more by the day.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't scream like Callen Rick, but I know he cares. I mean, I don't know. It is baffling to me how they've played this last week. All right, who's up first, Donnie, Donnie, go ahead, Donnie Man.

00:29:50
Speaker 8: I'm sorry to hear what you've been going through with your family.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: So.

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Speaker 8: I'm in my seventies, I go back a long way. I've never seen a team this dysfunctional. I think it goes to the coach, and I love this guy. Players are dogging it. I would get in their face. I would meet them on the court. I wouldn't wait for them to come to the bench. I would get in their face. I'd send them to the locker room. I don't care about the money. You're playing for the university of Kentucky. This is unacceptable. I'd send them to the locker room and I'd go through every one of them until I got down to five players. You don't dog it. You go to the locker room and when you decide you want to play, come back out and play. This is totally unacceptable. And this didn't start in the Zaga game. It goes back way before that. And the coach has got to hold these players accountable. Matt, how do you fix this problem?

00:31:00
Speaker 4: I don't know. If I do how to fix it, I'd say it. I appreciate the call. What's crazy is that? Like when they play a bad team, Ryan, they look really good.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: Yep, they're going to be.

00:31:15
Speaker 4: It's so crazy. I don't know. I don't know what it is.

00:31:20
Speaker 7: In Central is ranked three hundred and fiftieth out of sixty This is going to be a joke.

00:31:27
Speaker 4: Like they're awful when but I don't I don't know. I will tell you what Terrence Ogleby said, Ryan, Do you know Terrence ogles ogle.

00:31:36
Speaker 6: By is or I don't know who that is.

00:31:37
Speaker 4: He's on field of sixty eight. I think he used to be a coach, Drew, where is he a coach? Zavior. Maybe where did he coach? I don't know. He's a ball guy that's on field of sixty eight. Actually I think he does a really good job. And he was talking about Kentucky and he said, look, I really respect Mark Pope, how smart he is, et cetera. But maybe he's just too smart right now, he says, he keeps talking about analytics, he keeps talking about inbound efficiency and burber Burn, burber Burn, burber bun. He uses these big words and he brings in four guys and takes him out, and three guys he's says, they don't even do the basic things. So he was like, if I was Mart Pope, I'd throw out all of my catchphrases, all of my numbers and say let's guard the pick and roll right. And I actually thought, maybe he's in a case Ryan, where as smart as he is, he's gotten into his head and he's almost trying to be too smart, and we've somehow gotten away from just the basics of basketball.

00:32:38
Speaker 6: Yeah, this offense they're running is nothing like we saw his offense BYU. Like we were so excited about how they were going to pass the paths and look for the three point shots.

00:32:46
Speaker 4: See sorry, go ahead, Ryan, No, let's go ahead. Yeah, Shannon, fine, see if you can find that Terrence Oglesby clip. It's on Twitter. Okay, and because he can say it better than me. But I thought it was really good when he was talking about it.

00:33:00
Speaker 3: Who's next, Let's go to Braiden.

00:33:02
Speaker 4: Braiden, go ahead and Breik.

00:33:07
Speaker 10: This fan base is broken, no hoping, pope.

00:33:12
Speaker 8: I got a very special song to play.

00:33:19
Speaker 4: All right. I appreciate the call. You're not it's not a Kentucky fan. No, but that's not a Kentucky fan because the fan base is not broken. We were very I mean adam positive about will Stein's hiring. Go look at the crowd for the volleyball games. That's a Louisville fan so or an Arkansas fan. It is no one's fault because they didn't know. But Shannon, this wasn't the right week for me to have my old comments about col going to Arkansas go viral.

00:33:46
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

00:33:48
Speaker 4: Every time I got online, that's all I saw. It was like great. So that made me stay away from being us many. They really follow me. I think they may be the fan base that follows me. Second most, I used to think it was Louisville and Tennessee, but it might be Arkansas now I'm not sure, but see if you can find that during the break, Shannon, No, it's on field of sixty eight. Maybe somebody else sends you, oklip. I just think it's it's very upper po Kentucky Skin Cancer Center says, if you would like to get a gift for your family or friends as a stocking stuff, or try the skin care set for the holidays, they've got they can They've got replenishing cream, hydraulic serum, it moisturizes, vitamin C serum. It's a travel skincare set. You could take it with you fifteen percent off with your code KSR. And remember, go get yourself checked out. Make sure there's something that you that you don't have that you can find Kentucky Skin Cancercenter dot com. It's Kentucky Skin Cancercenter dot com. We'll take a break and be right back. It's KASAR. Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. So the vote on here looked like it was like three to one that it would be acceptable to boo with Ryan in dissent. Uh, let's take a vote on the text. I still think you get the best cross section of his fans for me on the text machine. I think Twitter runs a little negative. Facebook definitely runs negative. Some things like the postgame show I think run a little positive. So let's do this just yes or no. Was it acceptable in that moment for fans to boo? I'm not asking if you would boo, but is it acceptable to do it? Just yes or no? I just want to do a little survey and we'll see. So seven seven two seven four five two five four yes or no? Just texted him, all right, So this is what drew This is Terrence Elgillby when he was talking about maybe Mark Pope being a little too smart to fix this this year, go ahead and play.

00:35:47
Speaker 5: Because he just doesn't know where to be.

00:35:49
Speaker 9: This is not what Kentucky basketball has become a known ass. Even with Calipari, at least the effort was there. He kept it simple. They switched a lot, that's fine, but the effort was there. Sometimes when they weren't super talented, the effort was there. Now you're over complicating things, and I'm tired of hearing about like he talks about eccentric loads and workloads and work output and all this stuff that requires three degrees to listen to. How about you just play off two feet, communicate and switch, and then make sure when somebody curls you have post help, Like what are we doing? Get back to the simple parts of this game as opposed to seven three guys in every substitution. It was a very frustrating game to watch. That's kind of where I was at the entire game, because these are very simple things.

00:36:34
Speaker 5: Very well, you think, Drew, He's not wrong, It's a good way to put it.

00:36:39
Speaker 7: We know Pope likes the analytics and all the detail, but his guys obviously aren't getting the message. Whether he's putting too much on him or he's not doing a good job explaining it. But if they're clearly confused and not doing what you're supposed to be doing, so he should go to the very bare minimum of instruction at this point because any of his ADVANCEDCS metrics and all that is just going in one out the others. How it seems when the players are on the court, Ryan.

00:37:04
Speaker 6: You know this. We're in almost mid December. This is when you're fine tuning things before you get into conference play, and it's like we're just getting started, Like they have no identity whatsoever on offense, I don't I don't know what kind offen the team we're supposed to be and this is a time of year where we should be getting ready to head into like your best play, going into conference play.

00:37:23
Speaker 4: When I was a kid Shennon in Middlesbrough, sometimes if I would make a lot of my classmates mad, I would have people say to me something to the effect of, yeah, Matt, you might be books smart, but you ain't got no common sense. They wouldn't say that to me sometimes, right, yep, And I think I did have common sense, but that was an interesting way of putting it of, Like you can know all the numerical formulas and all the analytic you know, charts and all that, but sometimes you do need to have common sense to be able to walk into a room and like interact with people in a normal way. I wonder if Mark Pope, just for whatever reason, can't have the common sense to interact with this team, they just don't get him. I don't know that that's true, but Shannon, it could be. It could be. Yeah.

00:38:11
Speaker 2: I mean, analytics are great in certain situations, but they don't They're not the end all be all When it comes to winning a basketball game. You know, they don't tell you a player's effort that they're putting out. They don't tell you if a players having a personal issue which is causing them to play bad that day. I mean, there's certain things that you have to take into consideration outside of analytics.

00:38:30
Speaker 4: About eighty twenty ryan, yes, of people saying you it's acceptable to boot, maybe more maybe eighty five fifteen, does that surprise you?

00:38:39
Speaker 6: No, not at all.

00:38:41
Speaker 4: You think that would have been true five years ago.

00:38:43
Speaker 6: No, I've getting ready to say three years ago, maybe not even true when all the nil stuff was starting to get started. I think people would thought it would be unacceptable to boo your own team at basically what was a home game like that.

00:38:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's changed, and I think you know, there's good that comes within ile and that may be one of the things you get with more with you know, to who much is given, much is expected, And that's probably part of it with this as well. What's next, Todd Todd?

00:39:11
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Todd, Hey guys, sorry to hear about your dad. Hope things get better on that end. I took off Friday and I drove the five hours and spent the weekend in Nashville, and I go disagree with Drew. I'd say it's fifty percent booing because that was really really intense. But another thing. The effort is one thing. But my girlfriend even looked at me within first two minutes of the game, she said, why are you guys not playing with any effort? You guys just look like you're just glad to be there. And then it was the one arm passes and not hustling back. And I'm not trying to say this to be funny by any means, but our offense. I've seen fifth and sixth grade teams run better offense.

00:39:56
Speaker 4: Oh, I agree than when I saw Friday night. We're playing five out drew, five guys behind the three point line, and we don't have anybody that can shoot or drive. I mean, we literally are playing an offense. I appreciate the call that you would play with five sharp shooters. We're playing Golden State's offense, and Ryan, we don't have one guy who can make a three consistently except maybe Colin Chandler.

00:40:22
Speaker 6: Once we get behind, we become a very selfish basketball team.

00:40:26
Speaker 9: Man.

00:40:26
Speaker 6: Yeah, shoot some bad shots at some bad times.

00:40:29
Speaker 4: It just I mean, Aberdeen's shot selection drives me crazy, Drew. But at the same time, there's a part of me that goes, I don't know, man, if you're just standing out there and everybody's just standing around. But I mean, like, there's a play that showcased to me how much this team doesn't like each other. Drew. Aberdeen drives the pain. He gets double team. He throws up a shot and it goes nowhere, always opening the corner. He doesn't pass it to oh Way, and after he doesn't pass it, Oway just acts like he shot it, like he does the motion, and it was one of the most kind of blank you things I've seen a plan to a teammate. I mean, maybe those two like each other, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

00:41:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw that go pretty viral. I mean, always pretty much just calling him out for not making the past, which has been a problem all season with these guys. That's on court chemistry that they have fallen apart, and on the on the analytics, and Pope relyon on that too much. When he says things like, well, you know, Brandon Garrison's are most efficient, It's like, no, just use your eyeballs, don't I don't please, do not tell me how efficient Brandon Garrison.

00:41:32
Speaker 6: Is, but for one against Gonzaga.

00:41:38
Speaker 7: When he says stuff like that that he's locking too much of the numbers, like no one else is seeing that?

00:41:43
Speaker 4: No?

00:41:43
Speaker 6: What?

00:41:43
Speaker 4: No? All right, so now we all know it's awful? Can it be better? Jaden Quaintance is allegedly, according to Matt and Orlander, going to return against Saint John's. Well that helped. Do you think this can turn around? We will deal with that. Plus I want to talk a little UK volleyball. They make it to the second round, will Stein's making moves? Are you gonna pull for Oregon in the playoff? We will deal with all that and more in the second hour. The A F I've nine two eight oh twenty two eighty sevens could be sports radio