Best Friends for NEVER: RHOA Reunion Recap

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. So we are here to talk about Hard two reunion of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, But I want to start off by discussing what I feel like is the end of an era, and that is the friendship between Porsche and Shmia. Now, as a journalist, Hey, Porsche, as a journalis, I do want to make sure that I read exactly what was said. But before I do that, if you all watched Part two reunion last night, you know that towards the end the conversation steered between Porsche and Shamia's friendship and where things went wrong. Porsche addressed the fact that you know, there were things that Shamia sent her interviews.

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Speaker 2: She mentioned the breakfast club.

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Speaker 1: She mentioned how she felt that Samiya was not telling the truth about the wedding she went to.

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Speaker 2: She felt that Shamia also was just on this.

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Speaker 1: Camp paraphrase, of course, but on this campaign to pretty much tear down her name, and Shamiah tried to find the words to address it as well. This morning, Porscha woke up on ready and decided to make sure to address everything that she felt and Claudia and Dustin. She provided a few receipt she has tagger unseen receieved r h o A.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 1: Queen Shamilla Mulwanghee first wedding. I'm by her side as a bridesmaid. The location is Atlanta, Georgia. She spelled brides made the s is not sidling Claudia, so we can shut off the poster for that second wedding.

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Speaker 2: The second.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, you should okay.

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Speaker 3: It's a great line.

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Speaker 2: It's that big, all right. Second wedding was in Africa. Reference interview at the Breakfast Club, Shamia stated, I.

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Speaker 1: Only had one wedding and clearly she had to slide number two live number two. I sent as Shamia Morton Flowers to congratulate my bestie for her joining r h o A for videos. She made thanking me, followed by an excited congratulatory phone call I made to her, as well as limpy tap on Instagram. Force Lives of Peach photos of excitement celebrated Queen Marge as a full time Housewiman peach holder. She ended it with Shamia. She added her all caps lying again. In her latest post, she claims flobbers with for her birthday when the car clearly said love and congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Queen now Claudia and Dustin.

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Speaker 1: As I read Shamiah's response to that that she has since deleted, Jamiah has said that again, I had one wedding that took place in my Robi, Kenya where you attended was my dowry ceremony in my mom's backyard. Number two, you sent flowers my birthday week just before we started filming. I had my peach for over a month. I only said we never celebrated. You can keep your fake receiech with are fake as friendship. It's crazy how I can be considered your laptof for writing Paul so hard for you, but at the same time you say I was trying to sabotage you. Make it make sense since I got my peach you've been trying to find a reason to end this friendship. You're unbelievable, dusted, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Oh remember that song. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I think it's pretty clear what's going on here, right. Porscha and Samia were childhood friends. Their mothers were friends, their mothers fell out. They maintained whatever thread, you know, existence of a friendship that they could and leaned on to the fact that they were childhood friends.

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Speaker 5: Right. They spent time together.

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Speaker 4: Smilah was television ready when Porscha got on the show, and she needed a friend that could feel and had personality and was connected in the city and shit and ready for the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Shamilla was ready.

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Speaker 4: They were able to say with honesty, Yes, we were childhood friends. We were besties. That's what they brought to television. Porscha did some low down shit to Shamia on TV when she let Faedra sit up there and say that Shamillah was fucking candy and tied and she did this and said they doing them both and all of that, and then perpetuated that rumor that Shamillah was a third person in the bedroom. Candy and tied. They never got over that. Okay, they never got over that, and they weren't real friends, in real close relationship with each other. Enter the television show. Enter Shamiah being a housewife. Now right, They're thrust on this main stage with a relationship full of issues. Phadri's back every time she sees every time Shamia sees Faedro, I'm sure she's triggered. She's playing nice, which is the problem. Shamiah never addressed the shit that really pissed her off, which was Portia supporting that lie. Okay, And unfortunately, instead, instead of addressing it head on, Shamia made a lot of passive, aggressive digs, and she talked about Porsche behind her back, and she retaliated in a way that can be deemed sneaky or you know, underhanded, and made her then look like she was at fault. That's what happened. So what we saw today was the culmination of all of that. They ain't real friends, they hadn't been in a close friendship for a very long time. Samiah getting close to Kelly. Sure, they are pissed, Porsche off, Samiah talking about Porscha and the things that she was upset with, about that friendship. I'm sure that pissed Porsche off, and Porsche was actually holding back on that reunion stage. We've seen Porsche in the heat of an argument. We know how Porscha gives it up. She was actually holding back on that stage. Shamiyah was lying on the stage. Porscha was lying on the stage. We don't know who was lying about what, but they both were lying on the stage trying to protect whatever's kind of privacy they had. That's literally what happened, and unfortunately they're what we thought was a real friendship. We had to see it break down. But it's just that simple to me, you know what I'm saying. Instead of Shmia addressing some very relevant and real issues that she had with Porscha, she saved that and kept it inside, which was not healthy, you know what I'm saying. And then as the show came to fruition opportunities or roles for her to kind of take digs or maybe tell a little bit too much of how she truly felt without addressing it with Porsha first.

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Speaker 5: And here we are. So that's what I saw happen today.

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Speaker 1: All right, So thank you all for coming to Mond and night life, but Nolada, before you begin, I will say this, dust that literally I was taking notes because I want to make sure that I don't forget a big point of my point that I was gonna say after you, Claudia, and I still will. But what I will say is Dustin said ninety nine percent of what I was going to say, Claudia, Jordan, is your turn speak for the people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's why he's so good at this. That's in you. Your your emotional intelligence and the way you comprehend situations and can call things out and say it so eloquently. I think was amazing spot on. I think this is an example of what happens in girl friendships when one feels like a bigger person than the other and you kind of in the shadows and you're kind of a little bit. I won't say Sami has been a fan of Porsche's, but sometimes I think earlier on she would be overshadowed by Porsche's fame and big personality. Although Shemia does have the tangible things that Porsche really wants, and I think a lot of times to make keep the peace, I don't think Smid had defended herself when things happened, and it's built up in aimosity and you keep score, right, Like she's probably always been talking about Porsche to some another friend, like you know this is to come to my way, do you know? But publicly she had a she kept a good face, a solid, you know, front with Porsche. But I remember when I was on like ten years ago in Atlanta hearing about them them being a riff then because I remember seeing hearing that they weren't fucking with each other for a while, because I remember Smia being very friendly to me and not in a shady way towards Porscha. But I remember being like wow, like usually best friends don't fratnize with the enemy of or not the enemy, but something that their best you don't really rock with, right. So I remember just hearing just were on the street. It wasn't like a big deal, but I remember hearing that they had kind of kind of distanced a little bit. So when I heard they were back here and there, I was like, oh, okay, I guess they worked it out. I do think that for years Shemiah has been hurt by some of Porscha's actions and never confronted her properly and she's also a rookie at reality television, so she's not as good as reading it, clocking it, insaying it right away. And I also think when you still love someone even though you're mad at them. And I think they were both doing this like desin what you said so greatly, uh how like holding back. I think they both were until it got They had to burn the whole thing down for us to really get the thing that the real ruts, because at first you just throw a load that well, I mean, I don't know about that, but you're not really saying what it is. I think by the next reunion and all the social media stuff, once you you're like, well, fuck it. I think it's a matter of you go first, No, you go first? Oh you go? Are you going there? Fuck it? Now, I gotta unload on you if no one wants to go first, full full fledged, like fully unloading the clip. And I think the clip's been unloaded now and I think now we're gonna hear a lot more. And I think they both have things that have been bothering them that they've been holding onto and now it's gonna come out. Which sucks because when you're bestied with someone you have all the ammunition in the world, and you can make a receipt look like anything because you have receipts from all angles and you have you can you can craft whatever story you want because you have all the you have all the information, which sucks. You know, it does suck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look you two.

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Speaker 1: Claudia also said ninety nine point nine percent of things I would say when I would like to add to the conversation, I want to start up by saying this, This obviously is entertainment for Claudia, Dustin and myself, right, but we do not, obviously want to see the destruction the childhood friendship happen. So I want to start by saying that I've been doing press for Love and Marriage Huntsville.

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Speaker 2: That's back on air.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you've got all over the net, all over the timelines, You've been everywhere. I love it.

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Speaker 4: The amazing season premiere. Btw. I'm sure we'll talk about it at some point.

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Speaker 2: We will. Thank you so much. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, as I'm doing press for Love and Marge Huntsville, a few journalists have been asking me, and this is a place to talk about it. I've been asked a lot of times for the past couple of days. Do you feel responsible when your cat's members is good at divorce? And I say, and I'll say this again, absolutely not. I don't feel no respectility for cast members getting a divorce because they have problems before there was a camera inside their household. They have problems and their marriages before there was a camera. Rah the camera picked up on the nuances of their marriages, and the audience obviously saw some things. The reality star who's watching it saw some things about like I'll.

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Speaker 2: Put it with that shit you talk to me like that, and the rest is history.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I bring that up to say this, the Real Housewives of Atlanta did not Realuin Shamia in Portius breakship and what we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna do tonight and to have a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this since since fifteen weeks ago, for the past sixteen weeks and I'm sorry twenty weeks. Claudia, myself and Dustin talked about the fact that and when I say that, I'm not being disrespectful. So hear me out. You have been a vet on a show. It's very hard to see your friend come on your platform. I'm not saying Porscha said this. I'm not saying I know she feels that way. I'm basing this.

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Speaker 2: Off of my knowledge of what I do for a living.

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Speaker 1: Right, Porscha is a varsity player and Samiah is a rookie, and that was evident in last night's performance at the reunion.

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Speaker 2: Shamia is beautiful, Shamia's talented.

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Speaker 1: Porscha was Lebron James last night that reunion, and everyone else looked like they were on this on on the bench. And when I say that, what I'm saying is Porscha had enough experience to make sure that her points were heard. And I think when it came to Shami and Porsha, I've also heard that they weren't the best of friends like they used to be.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's their started, not mine.

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Speaker 1: But what I will say is this, Claudia dust and both clocked it in the sense of they love each other so much that they both.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to go deep and dirty.

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Speaker 1: And what I think happened is Shamiah has held a rightful grudge. Absolutely, Shamiah has held a rightful grudge for what conversation Portie was happening with Chara and Pedra. Rightfully so right Now what happened was they never once sat down and spoke about it in grand detail. And if y'all watched the reunion, that's why when Fedra told Shemiah, what you're doing interview talking about me? We addressed it off camera. Well that's problem number one. That disrespect happened on camera the same way you disrespect me. I need that respect to also happen in the same format. And Shamiah has been feeling like the step children of destiny because she she has been called a whore, she has been called somebody that I don't know what Shamia does her bedroom, not that do I care. But if I look back on this the same way I could look back and look at Britt as a friend to Kenya, which I am and say, I will always feel sorry for Britt for having not that we know it wasn't hers allegedly, but to come on a show and having those images. Sean, I don't care who you are. I will always feel bad that she had to go through that. Its publicly embarrassing what Shamir experienced see the Nine was a public embarrassment. The off camera conversation that happened right before the filming of favor coming back was the final nail, the confident of Shamiah's ability to defend herself. Shamia do not have the ability to defend herself because Smiah, in my opinion, has held on to pain for years and she doesn't have the articulation right now to find all of those pieces of the puzzle so it could make sense. And that's the reason why she is having problems on the reunion addressing it and Porsha is winning because Porscha has addressed it numerous times. The issue between Shami and Porsche, in my opinion, also has a lot to do with if me and dustin't have been friends since we were twelve, and our mothers were friends since they were a young girl too. As much as I love me from Dustin Ross, if his mother and my mother aren't getting along, I can't. I can't mess with dust In the same way. And that's not These are conversation that Portia and Shamir are not having with each other, and that was evident last night, and that's the reason why this morning we walk up to a sunami of events, Hey, Tsha, A tsunami of events.

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Speaker 2: Two friends.

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Speaker 1: Blast at each other and the sad part is this, All of this could have been fine if the moment Phaser came on the show, the three of them had a real conversation if I was Smiah.

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Speaker 3: And not to say that she's all in all this before I start this right, she has that role of plants as well. You know, I hate to see when I had a friend that was in an abusive friendship with a female friend, not that they were in a relationship, but as friends. She was definitely swallowed up by the other girl, like never really had you could be heard never, but we complained to me about things I'm like tell her and for some reason an intimidation like a fear or something. If my soul called best friend was Keiki and ka ka and ha ha and giggling about me being a whore and cheating on my husband and it's not true, or even if it is true, and you're doing that with another woman, Phaedra, And then I have to go on to see you on TV as freakin' frak and being such like Thicke as Theason buddy buddy. That would not only break my heart, but it would make me not want to fuck with you. It would make me not want to fuck with you, I would feel like, how can I trust you? Like, first of all, y'all can be friends, but you better check her first.

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Speaker 5: Right there?

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Speaker 2: Stand for me? There, you can move on, but.

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Speaker 3: You better say something and not just in the privacy the comfort of your home. Onwn A text as loud like Carlo said, as you disrespected me, I need you to address it publicly or I'm gonna look like a fool carrying your water. But then Tama, I mean Shamiya continue to carry water for Porsche and have her back. So it made us be like are you? Are you weak? What's going on here? And the reunion didn't do any favorites because I think as much as she's pissed that for sure, like you said, both of you, she's just not that good at I think she's not. I think she's a little bit in disweek, Like I can't believe I'm fighting with my girl like this. She lost the fight, you know, she is like that, she's getting eaten up today and I feel bad, like if you gotta That's why you had to check that ship the first time it happens, because then the second time it gets harder and harder to say something once you've allowed it for so long. The person that's doing it is like she ain't gonna do nothing, and then you kind of feel lower and lower and lower with your self esteem.

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Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 1: Listen the reason why I subscribe to and Claudia if I may, if you're okay with it, if not, tell me to stop. Me and Claudia last week kind of conversation after we filmed about whatever, and one thing I said to Claudia, I said, I want you to know this, Oh yeah, yeah, if I ever feel any kind of way about you, I will call you. I'm never gonna sneak I'm never gonna sneak tweet this you. I'm never going to do subliminals with you.

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Speaker 2: I said.

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Speaker 1: In order for us to have this fruitful, working relationship as friends, just know vice versa. If I say something to you, let's have a real conversation the moment, because what the what people don't understand is this these confessor in.

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Speaker 2: You yes for so long that you let's be real, y'all.

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Speaker 1: You sometimes forget while you're mad at somebody, but you know something happened and what I'm saying, is I'm not on portious side or Shia's side. I'm on the side of these two friends have yet have yet to have a conversation based on something so egregious and the reason why, and I'm gonna say this and whatever, the biggest downfall of that friendship is the fact that they weren't honest with each other in the beginning. If you feel some kind of way about my friend isn't getting me on the show? I said, it's fifteen weeks ago. I really want to ask shamiyas Shemia if you're listening, Happy anniversary your vacation. My phone still works, so it was Claudia's and the chat. I really need to know this. I need to know if Shmia ever said to Portsie I would like to be on the real Hospitals of Atlanta, can you put your sister on? And if that never happened, I don't And I could be the minority in this and is fine. I will never blame Porsche for this narrative that she put her friend on. If my friend did not come to me, Claudia has come to me with things. I've come to her with things. Dustin and I vice versa. I can't help you if I don't know. But Dustin, do you think that's the case. Do you think do you think a lot of this is because Shemiah has allowed things to suppress. But if she never once told Porstia I would like to be a house to WiFi to her, can you put your girl on? And she didn't do it, then is that Porsa's fault.

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Speaker 4: I can see a world where that would be relevant to the breakdown of their relationship, But I think their issue is a lot bigger than that, and it started a lot earlier than that. I think that they have always referred to each other as best friends, childhood friends, but they never really spent any time bonding or really building that relationship outside of the occasions that they were sharing space and in that moment, leaning on the fact that they are quote unquote best childhood friends. Here's an example. Right, They're probably not hanging out like that, kicking it like that outside of work. But then when they're filming in Nashville and the cameras go down, since we're best friends and childhood friends, I'm down to set out here by the pool and drink with you off camera and maybe go a little bit further with what I'm sharing or what I'm saying and laugh at you making a comment about fucking Angela's husband.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Because we're childhood best friends and so we have that license to kind of be safe around each other, but you're really not safe because they don't know each other.

00:23:13
Speaker 5: On the reunion stage.

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Speaker 4: When Andy asked Shamiyah if she had talked to Phaedra and Porsha about her grievance related to the comments that Faeder made during season nine, Porsha immediately interjected, it was like, no, no.

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Speaker 5: You talk.

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Speaker 4: I'm your best friend, and you talk to me. We spoke, We talked about it. The dialogue is unnatural, you know what I'm saying. You wouldn't even say that her insert that title in that dialogue naturally, And it just reflects a lack of genuine connection and real knowledge of each other. Smilla has never showed up in the fullness of who she is according to what we see now, and this is assumptive on my behalf, but it doesn't seem like she showed up in the totality of her personality, in her relations and shit with Porsche, ever Porsche.

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Speaker 5: This was her show, she was the star, she was on TV.

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Speaker 4: The focus was on getting to know her, and I think that that kind of manifested itself in their personal relationship. It's unfortunate Smia knows other people in the group better than she knows Porsche.

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Speaker 5: And that's what that is.

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Speaker 4: So I think it was way bigger than just her wanting to be on the show. They don't know each other, but they said that they were best friends, and they kind of leaned on that and got each other in trouble doing it.

00:24:27
Speaker 5: It's just as simple.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you hang on to the nostalgia of someone you knew, like you. There's a difference between meeting someone twenty years ago and being friends for twenty years, right, And I've had people say, oh, that's my girl, we've been friends with twenty years.

00:24:44
Speaker 2: No, we haven't.

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Speaker 3: We met twenty years ago, we went hard for a few years. They were some years off, we came back here and there. That's different. And I, like I said, from my little experience, I definitely heard that they were not rocking with it for a while. So seeing them back as best friend, I was like, okay, cool. And again I'm an outsider. I'm not involved in their friendship like that. I will say this also, when you have an unresolved like ripe with someone and you even it's your faults to me, it is your fault for never speaking your mind to Porsche. I'm going to say that it is your fault for never telling her. You hurt me when you said this, Tecker right away, because when you don't do that, right, even though you're saying that Porsche is your best friend, you are talking to somebody else about that. Okay, you're talking to your other best friend or your other friends or your man, and it's a toxic conversation. Most likely. Can you believe she did this? Now? Everything she does from then on out is through a lens of side eye. And I don't really fuck with you like that, Like I tell my friends once, I'm not able to look you in the eye anymore. It's probably because I talked shit about you and I wasn't fooling with you, and I was mad at you, and that's how you know I've checked out. I can't like face you the same anymore. Some people good at it being fake, continuing to be in someone's face, But hey, girl, I'm not be good me. You'll see it all over my face. I have to resolve something right away or it's gonna fester and it's gonna be a wrap. They have been able to play nice, and that's that Atlanta ship, that Southern bell stuff that they do out here.

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Speaker 2: It's barry.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta girls are some, not all. Some of the Atlanta girls in the industry are very clique ish. They go to each other's events, they go to each other's slummer parties. Is three separate groups of women in Atlanta. I'm not going to tell you who the leaders are in the three groups, but there's three and and like so like.

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Speaker 3: Even though they both are saying, oh, best friends, best friend's best friends, I guarantee you the second or third time, or even probably the first time Shemiah felt slighted by Porsia, she was on the phone with somebody else talking about it, and they probably had lots of conversations about can you believe she did this? Then every little thing after that is going to be magnified, whether it was justified or not. So maybe Housewives auditions came up and Shimia didn't say I want to be on it, but portion didn't offered. I guarantee you they could have been a phone call, and man, why did I girl? She didn't get you? Ain't that supposed to be your friend? I know it right, And then it gets gassed and more gas gets put on the flant. It's natural and it's not That's what happens in friendship, especially with women, Like it's our women's friendships. I always say this are extremely delicate. Y'all can get in fights, play basketball, elbow each other, someone that gets a black eye, and y'all shake it off. Man, it's all good, dude, we good. We goold wrap it up. A woman's friendship a lot of times sadly, and I hate I have to say this about us is so delicate where the smallest thing can be overblown because we overly analyzed. Will be on the phone, and then we have our other friend that's hyping us up with the battery. And I'm telling you, a girl can like walk by and go and you're like, why she looking me up and down like that. I got mad on time and a girl did that to me and then she humbled me real quick. She was like, oh my god, I love your shoes. I'm over here thinking it's beef. She just just gave me a look and I took it as and got defensive, and we that's something that women. We've got to stop doing that, you know. But I think with them it's a communication thing. And because I think to me it felt like she was an underlying or second tier to Portie, she probably felt a little intimidation and that's sad. But there's a lot of friendship groups. This stars in friendship circles right where there's like the alphas and Ma calling SMI a beta. But maybe she feels that way, like I can't really tell her how I really feel all the way. And now we're getting twenty years of it in three episodes, and it's gonna be bad.

00:28:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen and listen. I'll move on to the rest of the reunion.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: But what I will say is this, and this could be as we saw, like transition out of it. I think the only way this would be resolved. And I'm not even sure they're going to have the conversation. I'm just being honest, because it wasn't had our d that a conversation amocks the three of them needs to be had. It's just it just has to it has to. It just it's just it just has to. And what's what's been so interesting to me is it's been brought up in other conversations off the show. And that's why a lot of people when they when a lot of people look at the real housewords of Atlanta.

00:29:26
Speaker 2: Now, great season, A plus. Love this season.

00:29:30
Speaker 1: It is sort of the elephant in the room because I think Porsia and Shamia are doing a disservice to themselves by not having a real conversation about it first and foremost. And I also think there has to be something said that is also the elephant in the room.

00:29:52
Speaker 2: Okay, this season is Porsia's show.

00:29:56
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and that's no disrespecting of the ladies who I love the Well, well, this is what I'm saying. Porsche is the only VET on the show this season. When I say that, I'm not diminishing the other girls, but think about it, Porsche is the vet amongst three newbies and Drus Dora, who, by the way, y'all keep sleeping on Juice of Dora. I think Dreu so Dora have proven this reunion that she is a potential mother, and I think Drew So Dora is a potential force multiplier and I think y'all are sleeping on juice.

00:30:32
Speaker 2: So Dora and the and the amazing that she has.

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Speaker 1: But going back to this show, because Porsche is the VET, and I felt like Porsche dribble slam dunk, did a three point shot, fillowed, a couple of people got a t o. Porsche played the game of the reunion in this particular. He's in better than anybody on that stage. And I love all of you girls, but Porsche owned this reunion. And Porsche the moment she said there were her gold dressed and told everybody, I'm not gone to talk.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my punt across. And they left her.

00:31:13
Speaker 3: Oh you mean the reunion now this season the reunion. Yeah, I'm about to send yes.

00:31:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

00:31:21
Speaker 1: I know that a lot of people thought Porch was a flop this season, and that's fine. But one thing I will say, Porsche owned that reunion. And Porsche Porsia was able to articulate herself. She was able to handle things under pressure. That reunion, to me was Porsche's redemption story arc based on her ability to get her point across.

00:31:47
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, and it's not popular, but I gotta be honest.

00:31:50
Speaker 1: I felt that all of the girls on that stage was unable to handle what was coming their.

00:31:58
Speaker 4: Way, well the only so I agree that Porscha definitely held court on their reunion stage.

00:32:05
Speaker 5: Right.

00:32:05
Speaker 4: To be fair, she's more seasoned than the rest of the ladies on that stage. Cynthia has completely completely taken up her space as a friend of the show and her understanding and interpretation of that capacity, so she don't really give a damn about being all the way deeply into the mix like that.

00:32:23
Speaker 5: Right, So the.

00:32:26
Speaker 4: Porscha was the only VET on that stage, per se, Shemiah is still concerned with how she appears or comes across on camera, right, So she's not They could have made that alliance on camera type shit. You know what I'm saying, Be who you are on the camera, Sit the girls down on camera and just be like, yo, I feel like we all need to sit stick together as we navigate this friend group because we're all new to it. They should have did that on camera, the same way Nini and Marlow said down at their restaurant in season four and talked about going shopping. The next thing you knew there was a duo for the rest of the season, right when they thought they was gonna beef out do it on camera. That being said, Porscha didn't really have an opponent on the stage other than Kelly. Kelly really don't give a damn and we'll say what she has to say. And she was kind of zinging Porscha. She was whacking Porscha a little bit from her side of the stage. You know, Kelly was doing her thing. Drew Sodora. I know she had a crook in her neck the next day from all that leaning. She was doing the whole damn reunion. Drew Sodora was doing like this, tearing the ass up to doing like this the whole damn reunion. You know what I mean That she got her point across, you know what I'm saying.

00:33:40
Speaker 5: And so I don't know.

00:33:43
Speaker 4: I think that there was a presence of other energy on stage. I think Angela Oakley did a great job on stage. Angela did great. I thought the whole guy I've always thought that that guy coming on camera was stupid.

00:33:56
Speaker 5: I hate the whole Charles cheating rumor.

00:33:58
Speaker 4: I have never been rased to move past anything more in my life. I do not care that guy's ridiculous June Bug Jack Faith, all of that. I could give a damn you know what I'm saying. But Angela had something to say and she showed herself formidable. That's what we want from the housewives, you know what I mean. So while Porscha did do her damn thing and dribble that ball like a Harlem globe trotter on that reunion stage.

00:34:22
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, spending it on the rings.

00:34:24
Speaker 4: You know, even though she did that, she is not like she had a real, you know, opponent on that stage.

00:34:35
Speaker 3: It's easy to be Lebron James when you have a bunch of rookies around it. And I will say this, during the season, Porscha absolutely did not carry the season at all. She came off as a friend of the show. But at the reunion she definitely health court and the reunion because she's been there. A reunion is a very intimidating thing. And I think a lot of time, like it seemed like the girls are like thinking, all right, I'll say it later. I'll just do it later, and before you know it, that's part three is gonna be over and there's no more later and you have to wait till next season. So it's too late to give them advice now because they already taped it. But like it seemed like everyone's is kind of waiting. And Porscha knows production. She's been on that show for many, many years, so she knows. I'm a like she I will say this. When she was getting into what with Drew, and she knew there was winning that argument what you do manipulation, whether it was real or not, got up, gave a little fake hug over there. That took the heat off that, that deflected that conversation. And then the stuff with Shemiah. They're going back and forth. Porscha is railroading right over talking over her. We can't really hear nothing else bea saying, and all does sound like is oh you line, Porscha's eating you up. So yeah, she's she's she is running circles and the reunion, the vets, the one vet is running circles at the reunion, and the rookies ran that thing up during the season, So I don't know.

00:35:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's a that's a fair assessment. I do want to get into the missing piece of this reunion because not seeing brit and Kenya obviously was the biggest flop in terms of us not being able to see the completion of what happened. Britt decided not to show up to the reunion. Kenya, I believe was not invited. We weren't able to see the completion of what they started. This reunion also made me miss Kenya because whether you like Thank you Dustin, whether you like Kenya or not, Kenya is an all star batting average of thousands when it comes to her reunion performance. And I think that to me, what I wanted to see not only have Kenya address what occurred, but also just see Kenya in the mix. And what we did find out in this reunion was that sent and Kenya have not spoken to each other since the images were released and she text her and that happened almost close to a year ago. How did you guys feel about that? That Cynthia Belly and Kenya Moore have not spoken and close to a year. Is this also the end of their friendship as you guys know it?

00:37:26
Speaker 4: No, because Cynthia has a big, forgiving heart and if she'll always be open to having a excuse me a conversation to find resolve with Kenya. That's how Cynthia gets down. And Cynthia didn't even do nothing to Kenya.

00:37:39
Speaker 5: She just didn't do it. Kenya probably wanted her to do.

00:37:42
Speaker 4: And when you're friends with someone and you don't feel like your friends are supporting you, anybody can't understand somebody taking umbrage with someone else because of that.

00:37:50
Speaker 5: You can get that, you know what I'm saying.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: But I know Cynthia will be open to talk and if Kenya softens her heart to the situation, hopefully they'll find resolves.

00:37:57
Speaker 5: So I definitely don't think it's the end of their friend ship.

00:38:00
Speaker 4: And we'll see if she's talking a portion now, Because Porsche did sit on that stage and said the same goddamn thing Cynthia said to Kenya's face. Porscha said it on that stage. I was she right, I said, I was even pissed with Kenya for doing it. Then she said, but Kenya's you know, feels bad about doing what she did. Let's see if Kenya stops talking a portion now, you know what I mean? She said the same thing so well, so you know, Dasin, I shouldn't know this, but Kenya and Porsche ran into.

00:38:32
Speaker 1: Each other backstage as Shakira's constant in Atlanta, and according to my sources, they did not speak to each other.

00:38:40
Speaker 5: Oh bad.

00:38:42
Speaker 4: Well, hey, you know, I guess Kenya's pissed off. Of course Keny is pissed off.

00:38:48
Speaker 3: And then Porscha was very close to Britt after that, so I'm sure she's probably like, man, everybody.

00:38:52
Speaker 5: That I think everybody's an ops, right.

00:38:55
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think that Kenya and Porsche's friendship was already very, very fragile after Ultimate Girl's Trip anyways, Honestly, being real, I don't think they were ever back where they were after that, so it really wasn't gonna take that much to drive a deeper wedge. So I'm sad about it, especially kind of not in the middle of them, but in a way, you know, it's like I want them to, like, of course, get along and be cool. I'm never gonna you know, a team pretty you know what I'm saying, Like I miss that, and I know for years they like definitely had each other's back on that show, and I hate that. I think that's where the real demise of their friendship started. And then this kind of put a period on it. I agree with you, Dustin. Cynthia is always open to like kind of sit down people. I mean, she's friends with people that were really terrible to her before and she's gone past that. I think with Kenya she will too, and it's gonna take her more time because she probably feels more of the pressure. Like right now, everyone's loving Cynthia. There's no negative, there's no shots coming to Cynthia. She's in a good place. She's happy her relationship or life. Kenya, she's got kicked off the show that she was a part of her main source of income, you know, hearing and then having to sit on the sidelines and hear all the things that and having no platform the same thing back, So she's probably a more comfortable place like, oh, I'll give you more time, But I honestly don't think it'll ever be as good as it was before. I really don't. Sadly, they can be cool, but I don't think it's gonna be like what it was.

00:40:21
Speaker 1: Do you guys think based on them reading on Andy reading Kenya's tweet that there's room for her to come back to the.

00:40:29
Speaker 4: Show, one percent they would never have read verbatim that tweet where Kenya literally says, I look forward to seeing you all back on Bravos soon. They would have never read that and allowed it to air if she wasn't coming back. Kenya will be back next season, and great because it's gonna make for a good show. Portion Shami, You're gonna fight like cats and dogs all season. Kenya is gonna be spraying the whole cast because she's pissed off. It'll be a great season for us. We will be entertained, so she needs. Kenya will finally have her say, which is something that we just haven't seen yet, so hell yeah, and I welcome it. And Kenya is a person who see At that reunion, although Fedra grazed over an apology to smir right, I do apologize, I don't if I you know, it was all of that kind of energy that that was a moment where I did miss Kenya because Kenya would have gotten way deeper into that. And I'm sure she'll do that next season. Since Faeder has a guaranteed contract it, she'll be back. So it'll be interesting to see Kenya back in the mix. Our one hundred percent believe she's coming back.

00:41:33
Speaker 3: Yes, reunion needed Kenya, And honestly, if it had Kenya and Burt on there, all all of them, it would have been a really really great It would have been like it would have been sitting there saying that a little bit that Portia didn't do was so amazing. I mean, it was better than anybody else, but it wasn't that big of a deal like in past reunions where there was an epic one liner or moment. It was like, okay, you know, all right, but it wasn't like epic where we know the show can go. And I do think Porsia needs the heavy hitters around her to actually even look better, you know what I mean, It would be better. It would have elevated everybody, I think, to have them all on there. I think it's a huge mistake of thing. Don't bring Kenya back, you know. And I don't like this is the second time that she hasn't had to be able to be there, Like after she got married and she was fired, she didn't share the wedding. I think that was really fucked up to like not have her on to like this, you know, talk whatever, like to just get rid of her. So I could see her being very frustrated, like goddamn, I can never like Sae my side, and then she's gotta listen. She had to sit there while we're all running our mouths by her. I mean, she's got our YouTube channel now, but I could see that making you a little more salty.

00:42:41
Speaker 1: One of the things that was addressed in this reunion two was this sort of like friendly competition between Shemia and Drew based on their singing career. They showed a few clips of Shemia, you know, throw a little bit shade about Drew's career. She did congratulate her on it. The album is great, by the way, and this is listen. This is free promo. I'm I paid to do this. I'm being very honest when I say this, second to Coco Jones album Why Not More Juice of Dorris I did it to me is the best R and B album out today. It's it and that's front to back. I listened to it front to back. It's an amazing R and B album, second to Coco Jones Why Not More So? Its Claudia does anything. I was shocked, and that's no shade to drink and dupising. But sometimes when a reality started not that Drew as well. She's an actress and she's been in the game for many, many years. But sometimes when the album comes out, you're like, that album is solid, that it's it's, it's, it's it's a great album.

00:43:55
Speaker 2: I did it to me.

00:43:55
Speaker 1: It's the best song on the album, and and the gag is Dennis Roade it.

00:43:59
Speaker 2: But I like rest.

00:44:01
Speaker 1: There's been this big conversation on Twitter about this Judah liber bag that yes, Claudia, because Claudia clocked it last week when she said I feel like Drew, so Dora would have more stance.

00:44:16
Speaker 2: If some of you guys thought she was a fashion girl.

00:44:18
Speaker 1: And because you'll don't think she's a fashion girl, y'all read her.

00:44:23
Speaker 2: Shamia said that Drew is fake.

00:44:26
Speaker 1: When Drew say that, and I got five on it that she could speak five languages, Mea said that was a lie. And then Drew brought a prop a book and said I can speak five different love languages. And then it was a conversation about the Judah liber bag. SMA said was fake, Drew said it wasn't. Today Drew Sidora posted a receipt claiming that it was real. Drew Shumia then posted on her stories double downing on that was fake, and then Aodia Dustin not should you know this? I know, but the Judah Leeber confirmed herself that Juseph thier bag is.

00:45:09
Speaker 4: Real yep, and the Instagram comments. My thing is, I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. I think of all the shit that we could be discussing on this reunion stage, who gives I don't care about that bullshit and all the shit that Drew has lied about on this damn show, that's.

00:45:27
Speaker 5: What we're gonna highlight, you know what I'm saying. It just felt like we was wasting time for me, you know what I mean.

00:45:32
Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting and dope that Judas Leeber's account commented, you know that kind of stuff makes it exciting for us the fans to watch.

00:45:41
Speaker 5: But I don't give a damn about that.

00:45:42
Speaker 4: That was so stupid to me that we were taking up time with that, and that that's the that And even if she had lied about that, of all the things that she's already lied about on the show, I don't think it would be something that would kind of shift the needle for people, you know what I'm saying, it just would be another stupid ass lie this dig into the bottom of that. Let's get to the bottom of some of the real shit that's going on. You know what I'm saying, Why y'all mamas don't like each other? What is it? What's the real deal? You know what I'm saying, Let's get candy on the stage and let's dig all the way to the bottom of this ship. Like, let's really wake it up if we're gonna do if we're gonna do all of that. So I thought that Judith liber bag situation, it just y'all know me very well. We friends, y'all know the kind of stuff that I just don't have the patience for. And that was one of those things, like I don't give a fuck about that damn Martini glass purse.

00:46:29
Speaker 5: I don't care, you know what I'm saying. That's it?

00:46:32
Speaker 6: So sorry, Jordan, do you own a Judah liber Martini person?

00:46:43
Speaker 3: Plonia, Jordan, can you get out on the fashion of a website? Because if not, no, I don't you know, I don't give a damn but none of that ship. So I don't know if it's a real offc I never heard the designer before y'all just mentioned just now, So I have no dog in this race. I will say this, And I like both these ladies, so I was like, sorry, Shamiyah, but you lost this one. I think that Shamia is in a free fall right now, a little uncomfortable, and she's just trying to get a win with somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like, all right, let me just show you and read her down, and it's not really coming across like she wanted to. And I just think that the Drew and Shamia beef is his husband silly to me from day one, I think that Drew should not be your focus, Shamia at all. I think that y'all should have actually more in common than not, you know what I mean, Like y'all could have really possied up on that music thing and partened up and done some things, and I could have been a keupe storyline to see though, you know, oh the more experienced person music, Drew kind of taken Sami under her wing and they could have formed an organic friendship that way instead of it being this tip the tat these little there's not enough of a history there for it to be all this like these barbs you know what I mean, these like and I mean, Barb isn't like Spikes being gone. You got to clarify nowadays because people go crazy, all right, Yeah, And I just was like, I think Sami is just like she feels the heat now with her story and what's happening. So she's just trying to get an easy kill. And I think she thought that being needs to kill with drill and it didn't really work out.

00:48:15
Speaker 4: I also think that Shamia is playing to the fans a little bit when it comes to that, trying, like you said, looking for a gotcha moment in that way. And Shamia is so dope of a person. She literally does not have to do that. All she has to do is just be on the show and live the life that she lives. I saw she posted on Instagram that she took like all the little kids in her family. Kelly's twins were with her as well. They all went to Orlando for this annual trip that she does. You know, that's that's the shit that we want. If you got to cut somebody out along the way, do that, you know what I mean. But I think there's still an opportunity there for Shamiir to really shine and get her just do as a housewife. And this is her first season to be fair too, you know what I mean, as a full time housewife. So I think that next season she'll be a little bit more comfortable and on camera and more comfortable knowing that she's getting critiqued and picked apart by the audience in a way that's new for her.

00:49:12
Speaker 5: I think that we'll get it.

00:49:13
Speaker 4: I hope we'll get a different performance because I still think all the pieces are there for her to make sense as a great housewife on this show.

00:49:21
Speaker 3: So and don't you think like maybe like some of the girls, and I think for me, is not the only one that's doing this or has done this. Like when you're first there on the show, you're kind of finding your way and you're not, and you're a mix between who you are and also changing and catering your behavior a little bit based on what social media is saying or what you know. You have a lot of people here and you're not a lot of times like that takes away from your authenticity. And that's what makes fans sound like you, because they're like, wait, but if you just stand on business, whether you right or wrong, and just like I'm doing it the way I think you get you look more consistent and more solid, so on that kind of flip flop that kind of goes with the win or just changes up like or these little be square We're like, wait, what's the what's the history of that right there? Is that just for a scene or do you really have deep feelings against that person?

00:50:14
Speaker 1: And breaks me to this question that one of the rain Drops shout out to share it in on Twitter, post this question, and I wanted to bring.

00:50:22
Speaker 2: It to you guys.

00:50:24
Speaker 1: I've been seeing a lot of a lot of this for the past couple of weeks, and I felt that today was the time to bring it up based on everything that happened this morning. Share In posts a question on Twitter about should the downfall of Samia be studied because she pointed out that Samiyah was the fan favorite in the beginning of this season and then towards it in she feels like the fans have turned on her. Is that something you guys have seen and if so, do you think Shamia started off this season on a high and based on what we saw in the later episodes that she did not live up to the hype.

00:51:03
Speaker 5: Let's speak. Never mind Claudia. Ladies first, you go first, and then go ahead, Claudia.

00:51:09
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I think that she came out the gate. People like were like, wow, she's like remember we were saying that she was like the star of the show and the show was gonna be centered around her. We were raving about our house or a lifestyle or husband or wealth. We were like, damn. Even Cynthia was like, oh my God, like, look at this place. Is it like it was this Shamiah Shamia Shamia Shmia. To her detriment, sometimes maybe we set the bar high or the bar was set high. And then throughout the episodes, I think some mistakes. I think one of her main mistakes was kind of coming for Drew when we didn't really see a reason for that, right, and then the kind of being porstious accomplice with that meeting with Dennis. That was another way like.

00:51:51
Speaker 2: Uh, I think not to cut you off.

00:51:55
Speaker 1: I think that was the beginning of people questioning a little bit.

00:52:00
Speaker 2: I think I think she Miia having that meeting with Ralph definitely, Oh.

00:52:07
Speaker 3: Ralph, I'm sorry, Ralph.

00:52:09
Speaker 2: He said, Then I know, I don't know I got your sister.

00:52:12
Speaker 1: I definitely think that was sort of the eye the side eye that people saw.

00:52:17
Speaker 3: We'll go ahead, and then she could never really recover. Then it was like another mistake, and you know, another thing after the next, and you know, it's funny how some of the ones that were so strong in the beginning ended up being not as like in the end, and then some that were under the radar, like you know, Angela, we didn't really we weren't really tripping on her like that in the beginning, and then look how she's been like since. I think she's been offer running since episode three four, like just NonStop with basically like maybe one mistake towards the end. Right, that's pretty much all I can really think of. So, yeah, and the sixteen episodes, that's a long season. Things had turned you know, you write people the wrong way. But yeah, she she had a couple of things and so and it's also we're also missing major pieces of the story. Kenya wasn't there to finish, and neither was Brent, so a lot of things were kind of just rigged together kind of bubblegum, and we're not getting the complete like there's still so we're allowed to forge your own opinions and fill in the blank that may or may not be fair of Samiah. I mean, I don't know.

00:53:19
Speaker 5: Let's let's let's let's call it what it is. Right.

00:53:21
Speaker 4: First of all, much love to share it and shout out to all the rain drops. Right, but there has been no downfall of Shemiah. Okay, watch the damn show and just say damn. I like Shemia in the beginning, but I don't agree with what she did in this episode. There's no downfall of Shemiah that needs to be studied. We could stop with the dramatic shit right. Second of all, we haven't seen Shemiah in the full context of her personality. I think that as a viewing audience, we made assumptions about her because of her proximity to Porsche, her assumed proximity to Porsche.

00:53:55
Speaker 5: Right.

00:53:55
Speaker 4: If this girl, this woman is coming on the show saying that she's Portioned's best, we assume that they have similar interests. They're both you know, very forward, you know, type A personalities whatever, like, that's what we assume. Well, when we got to know Smia this season, we find out she's not those things. She's a preacher's kid, you know. What I'm saying. She comes from a family that had means and was well off. She had a brand new bread convertible when she was sixteen, you know what I mean.

00:54:22
Speaker 2: So her.

00:54:24
Speaker 5: The access that she chooses.

00:54:27
Speaker 4: To grind, you know what I'm saying, are not those that we might choose. And so her taking issue with her passing that story about Drew saying that she was gonna pay for Pj's college, you know what I'm saying, and that becoming a thing, or her saying that bridge says something about her daughter, and that becoming a thing. These are things that seem that are made to appear larger than they actually are sometimes and it just reflects a lack of certain life experiences and SHEMI is just not the person that we thought that she was. Not in a bad way, it's just down that we're getting to know her. At least for me, I'm like, Oh, she's different than what I thought she was, you know. And she's not as much of an aggressive personality or somebody who can really get into paint like that, right because she doesn't come from that sort of situation. She's a she's been a kind of sheltered a little bit almost when she was growing up. Yeah, she outside in Atlanta, but she grew up there and she knows a lot of the right people and shit. So I think we just made some assumptions that we're finding out are not true. And for some of the viewers, they're translating that to we don't like Shamiah no more, you know what I'm saying. But I think we're just getting to know who she really is, and that's just what it is.

00:55:41
Speaker 3: See y'all think she'll be a her housewife and have a better chance making her own mark. I think this break up with Porsche, although it's sad because you know they were good friends. They were friends for a long time, right, whether best friends or not. But once she gets up from under the Porscha's shadow and the Porsche narrative and she could stand on her own, maybe we'll get a clearer idea of her outside of a friendship like I would hate to just for the rest of my life. I'm always tied to a friend I hang with, Like, you know, stand on your own, what's your storyline? Not like doing any of the work or the carrying of bones for Portsche or any of that. And if she's back for next season. I think that would be better for her and probably for Porsche. Cut the type. It's if you're not gonna be real friends and don't even take this thing because.

00:56:28
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a problem.

00:56:30
Speaker 1: I think the problem to what you're saying, Claudia, and I'm agreeing with you. I think the problem is this no one is having real conversations on camera because they're having off camera, and that will be the destruction of what is now an amazing reboot of this show. My advice to all of those girls is stop having this off camera conversation. It's it's it's going to be the detriment of you being on the show and the detriment of the show.

00:56:55
Speaker 2: I agree with everything Claudia said.

00:56:57
Speaker 1: I think what I would love to hear it's a real conversation the way Nimi and Cynthia had it. When Cynthia said, people think I'm weak because of your personality as related to you calling my husband a bitch. That affected me, That offended me. I feel like I have no voice in our friendship. These are things that are relatable. Every friend group, and we sevex weeks ago, every single friend group has the outspoken person, the leader of the Queen Bee whatever they want to give them, And I would love to hear that conversation happened between those two. I think Shemiah is a great housewife. I think Shemiah rookie season should be studied in the sense of you have to do what feels natural for you. Because when you think about a Candy Burris, the reason why Candy Burris had a long career on the show is because she wasn't known to be the best reader or the best shade assassin, but she was known to just always be herself in every situation and the audience enjoy that. And my advice to this cast is and I think Kelly Kelly, who I I'm obsessed with Kelly. I think Kelly learned her lesson by defending Brent every chance she got. Yes, great friend, but look what I got you in the end, do you know what I mean? And I think these alligances ruined shows, right and I and and that's what's going to have to be And it's the reason why for me the future of the next season when it comes to this current cast, who look, I think they all should come back. As my opinion, I want them I want them all to come back next season, right.

00:58:48
Speaker 2: And and of course Kenya summer more.

00:58:51
Speaker 1: But listen, I want to see should me in port to talk. I want to see me a portion of favor to talk. I want to see portion and Fas talk. I want to see Kenya and Cynthia talk. I think what we're being robbed of is these women having an amazing social media beef. Because let's be clear, I will type all day based on what happened this moment.

00:59:18
Speaker 4: But button this morning Porscha pushed the mother for she said, yeah, this morning, this was me.

00:59:26
Speaker 2: In our group chat.

00:59:28
Speaker 1: Right, but imagine imagine if all of this happened on the show.

00:59:36
Speaker 2: So that that that's that's my thing to that one thing.

00:59:39
Speaker 1: I do want to get up before because Claudia, Claudia is looking at.

00:59:43
Speaker 2: Is we have it for a short time, but.

00:59:47
Speaker 1: Get me while you can, Dustin, I know this is the vein of your existence when it comes to the show.

00:59:53
Speaker 2: But obviously June Bug.

00:59:58
Speaker 1: Was the star of the reunion as well, and Angela who who Still I don't care what y'll say about angel Oakley. Angela still passed the crown for the MVP of the season. Rookie of the Year. She had receipts about Phaedrus's brother allegedly being friends with this guy going to school with them. Phaedra got Porscha's phone and contacted the brother and then he said, I know this person is the whole thing. Unfortunately fell flat for me. But Dustin is your favorite topic of the evening, so I would love to get your opinion on Phaedri calling her brother the brother Denying it, Angela doubled downing on it. Angy Cohen said her contract insecure, she didn't need to do this.

01:00:50
Speaker 2: What do you think.

01:00:52
Speaker 4: I think that it would be very hard for me to have a serious conversation with Faeder about anything with that shit on it head at the reunion, So it would have been hard for me to take her serious with them things clinging and clacking off the side and shit, it was all distracting.

01:01:09
Speaker 5: It was difficult for me.

01:01:11
Speaker 4: On top of that, my brother would have said the same damn things, just like I would have said the same thing if he called me with some You know what I'm saying. So I don't understand what that was supposed to prove, nor do I care, Angela. If Charles is she knowing you, and you want to stay good for y'all because y'all obviously got your thing going together. If Fader did it, fine, that ain't the first lie she told. Y'all don't care that she lies and start shit. So here we are. I'm just ready to move on. I don't want to hear about that boy, that bug, that restaurant, that woman. I don't want to hear about none of it no more. I'm ready to move on. Okay. So that's how I feel about it. You know, now y'all can tell me that's where I'm at with it.

01:02:02
Speaker 3: First of all, petty moment alert, I too could not take for sure, I mean not fortunate phator seriously with that thing. And do you remember that movie There was a dragon in a movie called The Never Ending Story. Yes, it looked like like the thing. Imagine arguing with that on the reunion. Just that's the jewelry, the ears of the Jewish.

01:02:55
Speaker 4: And then it was getting stuck, like when she would be talking and gesturing and ship, it would get stuck. One half of the thing would be like right here. It was just a lot. It was difficult, you know what I'm saying, to focus. I know, I would be like, you gonna have to take that off. You got to take that thing off, whatever that is, whatever you mean. I can't and just.

01:03:15
Speaker 3: Take the movie the never ending story. It's the never ending liar. So the thing is with this story, it does sound fishy, and I love Angela and I hate to go against Angela and be pro team Pager, So I'm.

01:03:28
Speaker 2: Not going to do that.

01:03:29
Speaker 3: But and y'all give me be mad, be mad the comments, get now, the never.

01:03:54
Speaker 2: To I don't do that, but I do it anyway, get to me.

01:04:01
Speaker 3: I'm very honest. I stand in my truth.

01:04:04
Speaker 5: Yea.

01:04:04
Speaker 3: So the thing is that it's like the boy that cry wolf right, because she's lied so many times. All my babies do next week? Nos do it eight months? Oh, Paul, I had nothing to do with the angel saying thing all the lies. So maybe this time she is telling the truth. It's hard to believe her, right, And because Angela has told the truth so much that I think that's kind of why we're a little bit willing to be like, Nah, maybe she might have maybe a little collaborated or a little bit of crafting going on, But it's like I like to look at patterns and you know your past behavior. I mean, can you change yes? But ay, she might be telling you, but I ain't gonna lie. My petty side is fun to just be like, nah, we don't believe you because she's lied so much. She's lied so much, and then unfortunately, I don't know what it is about this network, but for some reason, they don't all the way holds her ever to a standard of like, they don't really ever hold her accountable. She gets away with so much, and I think that's what's frustrating to some of us. I think it'd be a lot easier to rock with some of the things that Padra says and like her more if just give us once or twice where she actually gets held accountable. She came on the show gunning hard for angel Oh Shaney towards the marriage, so it's like, we're like, girl, but you just got here, Like why are you fussing with this lady? Like we like her now, okay, we like her, And it's just I think that's I think that's what my issue is. And I'm gonna go and admit to my issue with her. So many times it's like you seen Donald Trump get away with so much then he might do one thing where it's like kind of eye or accimately like I'm good fuck because you're gonna lie for for six months or six years or whatever. So it's kind of like hard to come around to the idea that you could possibly be telling the truth. Now it does sound Fakegan God, something sound Take the june bug when they saidjum bug, I'm like, oh, you got to say something like Tony or Jason or David just any june bug is like.

01:06:09
Speaker 2: Something bad.

01:06:12
Speaker 4: Because this is I need to relax after seeing this stupid ass ship. It was just dumb, right, Claudia, the jud ship just stupid.

01:06:21
Speaker 3: And then the Mark the thing with I, I really don't know because it's hard for me. It's I'm programmed. Now, it's hard for me to believe that Phagier would be telling the truth. She doesn't tell the truth, just like her silence didn't tell the truth. And said that was a good look. And that's all I got to say about that. Be mad if you want to. I don't care. I mean, I'm used to people being mad at me. Someone make that side by side though, when you get a chance.

01:06:52
Speaker 1: Anyway, Okay, what's that dragon's names?

01:07:02
Speaker 3: Anybody knows the chat.

01:07:03
Speaker 2: The Dragon moved off from the Dragon Baby.

01:07:07
Speaker 1: Giraffic parking gull child, Yeah, buddy. So to wrap things up, the the Reunion did in on Shamia and Porsche as they are about to get into it about their mothers. So we will see what happens next week. Based on the poll that I had done on Twitter Claudia and Dustin about whose side are people are when it comes to Shamia and Porsche.

01:07:40
Speaker 2: The results are in over six hundred and fifty people voted.

01:07:47
Speaker 5: Relatively close. You know what I'm saying. People are split.

01:07:52
Speaker 4: They signed with Porsche after them them damning Instagram slide she put out this morning for people are split.

01:08:01
Speaker 3: And I think and I don't think Shmida's doing herself any favors. She couldn't. She couldn't get it out. She could not get it out. We could not even like we were like we it was. I hope she comes with Mara on part three. If not, she's just gonna get ran over, you know what I mean. I feel that she's frustrated, like she's like frush, you know, when you like can't get something tonight like.

01:08:20
Speaker 4: Hm, Well, she said to Claudia remember when she went when they went on break, Claudia and Carlos. When they went on break and she went into Kelly's dressing room. The first thing she said when she went in there on that scene was everybody, I'm trying to be nice, and everybody's chiming in. There's a lot of stuff I want to chime in on too. Toma said that in Kelly's dressing room, so that there was some things I guess there were some things rather that she wasn't saying saying that she wanted to say on the stage. Now, I don't know why, because if I were to hit that stage.

01:08:51
Speaker 2: That's why you're there.

01:08:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

01:08:55
Speaker 1: But interrupt each other a reunion speak now for one hundred piece. Claudia's right, you think I'm gonna get it later and you forget about it. You don't get to it.

01:09:02
Speaker 2: Next thing.

01:09:02
Speaker 1: You know, the regumits up with so say when you mean it. But Part three it's airing next week. Thank you rain Drops for a stepic in early, See you next Monday. Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Mimetz and a partnership.

01:09:26
Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

01:09:29
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