Club 520 - K Camp on KISS albums, CRAZY story on "Cut Her Off" w/ 2 Chainz, music streaming
We’re back with Season 4, Episode 58 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Atlanta rapper, singer, and songwriter K Camp! The legend in the music game talks about the difference between signing with a label and going solo, and how the game has changed with streaming music. Plus, K Camp tells an incredible story of how "Cut Her Off" featuring 2 Chainz came about. And don't miss the guys talk about K Camp's basketball career, working with Travis Porter on "Go Shorty Go," the K.I.S.S. albums, and so much more!
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The volume. Shout out to Boost Mobile, official sponsor of Club five to twenty, and they back again and let y'all know that you don't have to overpay for great wireless service. Unlock the new savings account with twenty five for the unlimited. Wireless It's a permanent price with no contracts or no price hikes. Listen, ed, you can keep your phone and your own phone number that you had previously and saved up to six hundred dollars a year by switching over to Boostsmobile. Stop overpaying and pay a fair price at boosmobile dot com. Based on average single line payment of AT and T Verizon NT Mobile customers, compares to twelve months on the Boost Mobile Unlimited plan as of January twenty twenty six. For full offer to tell us, visit boosmobile dot com. All right, man, we back live in Atlanta, Georgia. Man tigue hometoime man Club five to twenty. You know the our special guests introduced him last. But first things first, shout to our family over there at boost Mobile. You know the vibes. Man, we got something special coming in May. And listen, I know you've been around, bro. Did you have a trapphone back in the day, next till church. Of course we all did from the city. What was I ring tall Ship? The church? Well, the ring, the ring time for the church. Yeah, you just heard the side button now. I used to play the gems on there. Too, a lot of songs and he put whatever on there. Oh yeah yeah, something asked some tc a hunderground ship on my ring? Tom? Okay, yeah, I probably don't. Nobody don't damn ring tall are Yeah, a whole lot for sure. Man, tap me with the bootsmoke with him and shot the hard rock bed. Be here, playoff topic, get this money. If you had to put some chicken down, hold the chance right now, out the east and the west be here. Who you're ruggling with? Futures Cleveland? Okay, see mm hmm, after gate, I'll let it know, allright. Put a thousand on the man, put a stack one, put a stack on. Oh on both of you, bet for both of them will go to the fire. Oh yeah, okay, strong. Though, Now are you a betman? You know what I'm saying. You catch me with the sports game. Okay, so it's one of your best licks you ever got off the part layers or the or the game. Something you saw I have to. Bro probably probably like two bands on some prize picked ship. Okay, okay, shoot. Yeah, shout the hord rock back baby, use some eyes, tax and stuff twenty another ox restore. Man, I guess keep it us fresh. And it said as well, I'm your host night is DJ Wills. Man. Like we said in the A Special guests introduce some last as usually to my far left. We got my dog Bishop be here out the pearlies. How you wasn't nasty cool. And nasty glad to be in Atlanta? Baby, let's get to it. Okay man, Yeah, the vobs a little bit different here man, we in a master sweet. You know what I'm saying. Shout out the freaky Mike Man, appreciate you putting us up your role. Man, that's right, that's right. Yeah, No, this is to be hearing from oh that nigga won't be charging somebody so bad, but now seeing the nigga want to be another nigga so bad they police siga. Man, it's right, my dog you not for your tea? Got you what? And jealous because I'm in gim popping be here? Got a sweet? You know what? I mean you know what I mean? Shit nice. We could have shout it anywhere, but right here it's crazy. Boy, that's crazy. I ain't gonna lie. I got my role. I had to go Downstairst's say. I know y'all didn't clean this. Boy, it was a hoop station in my room for I checked there. Boy, it was. Makeup, says all over the wall. I said, baby girl did not get dressed right here? Well, like we said, man at us, only right where I wanted to fire from Atlanta, Georgia. Man, we've been waiting for this episode long time. Be here. We finally got him in man, mister k camp and the building. Big dogs just slide on the side. Yah, may appreciate y'all. Yeah, I tell you how y'all doing, man, Man, we're good man. How you feeling, man? Can't complain another day? Man getting to it? Were outside to night though? Oh yeah, talk about it? Listen a lot to talk about it. Since you grew up in Atlanta. Obviously a Falcons the Hawks man right shore for sure. How you feeling about the Falcons getting to it? Man? The Falcons? Yeah, hey, feel about the Falcons ship? The Falcons is gonna be the Falcons. You know what I'm saying, I pray, I pray for a better season. You know what I'm saying, I got I got a lot of love for the Falcons though, but we're trying to figure it out. It's crazy. Every time we break up the Falcons in the city niggas whole vibe became like it's like a funeral. Feel like it's some time. Ain't know a lot to you, feel like it's sometime. It be living in main Stadium though it might not play in the show, don't have some fun. We're gonna have some fun, for sure. But Sheldon took me to a couple of them football games. It'll be letting them a little feel like a day look gold out. Yeah, you get a little tricky man. Well, y'all said the motherfucker, what are you? Are you a Falcons? Was that one of your Yeah, that was one of my teams out and retired them. Yeah, I'm back. I'm back with the forty with the Falcons. He said, what ask him when he quit the Falcons? And you quit the five game. When they lost the Super Bowl? Sure, when we was up and I have built my ticket for the Medic City Float. I remember that too. You had money on that account. I think we all did. So we did. It was like super Bowl party was an ad man had had a party at the crib. That ship was disappointing. Well you had, yeah, niggas probably getting drunk stain on table. Niggasach that right, And I bought a ticket to fly back to Atlanta go to the party that. Might be the toughest ever for the city. No, for sure, Well the one that stayed the more for sure. I ain't gonna live, man, Martin. Everybody get the hell out of my house. I'm mad. But we just go to the super Bowl. Bro were still turn you know, they live, were still would turn though, like you said, yeah, I seen them so now, But I remember COVID boy y'all in Houston. Y'all didn't give a damn about that. It was still up for the city Atlanta. Hell live, Lanta never gets We're used. To it, used to what we usually got there going crazy. Man, we went to lose. It's my COVID no, no, no. Shit, we wish it. We're trying to get. So now to you talking about he said, even though you know what I'm saying. The teams weren't that good. The vibes were still hot. Boy, them old walk seasons. Boy, before y'all turned up. We went to the playoffs ere year. We talk about Look, they didn't give a fun come on teams there. Yeah, yeah, he went to the playoffs. Away your hair cuts up, serious, man, it won't turn Oh no, the game is always about They did not care about the actual game to the playoffs. But it's always a good team had a turn too. Hell yeah, all right, man, going up a atm man, I want to ask you a question. What's it like seeing the city now what it is when he was growing up? Is it a big difference? A big difference? Yeah, for shure. You know what I'm saying. As far as I'm from the city. You know what I'm saying, I been in my whole life, and I'll be going place and I don't know where hill I'm at no more. I swear to God. The whole city changed, you know what I'm saying, The vibe chain of the club change. It's still, it's still motionally still, you know what I'm saying, a great environment to thrive in. You know, but you know everything tang. How you getting produced to music? Was that your first love? Did you hoop play football and for her? Okay? Who was you like that? I was like ship my mind, Ship, like everybody like that. He good, he sat for us. You know what I'm saying. I was hoop of first h I actually brough my angle my twelve grade year summer league game and then I, uh, you know what I'm saying. I was already doing the music. You know what I'm saying, with the potteries and ship and shit, I ain't had nothing else. The hoop was the only thing I knew, So I just you know, I'm saying, jump in the music bag and I ain't stopped. I ain't look back, and you have some offers or something. Hell no, Okay. In my mind, I was like that, you put the love of the game. You love the guy. You know what I'm saying. You school about all ship? What's your who? Game? Like? He was like be here? Oh no, he won't. He didn't played big Kim. Kim was probably PG God he want you. Yeah. I was a point guardian center yeah yeah. Hell he gave. You know screen open role yeah yeah, yeah, there's our it's be here every time you being the stretch for it's funny because he be hanging on me. Bro. Respect He's funny because I really seen you play basketball high school though. That's why it's funny. Where you from Indianapolis. Yeah, he's play Okay, nigga. Uh they my freshman year, Pike beat US eighty three to thirty. That half who Pike was? No, he won the high school. He was went, he was a rob. Robert Vaydon is probably one of the greatest high school basketball players I ever seen. In my wife, they had a college basketball team, but yeah, any other basketball different, Like I don't know if basketball basketball probably big down here too, but like we everything is basketball up there, bro. So these niggas on my mama, they could have beat a small D one school back these times. Yeah for sure, for sure. Yeah. Man, you feel about football talk football basketball here? Yeah? Is that real? You feel about that too? No from indian Oplids? Okay, okay, man, I want to talk to you about the kids tapes. Man, how that coming back? Man, sad Bro, that's what you should the first one. Yeah, I wonder how it started. Ship How the first one started, Bro. I think I was just trying to find my sound at that time. Yeah, and. You know when when you when you when you're a new artist, you are trying to find that sign. I think I made a song for the females one time in the in the you know female at school with eating that it up. So let me just do a whole project for the female ship. You know what I'm saying. I named the kids. I think the original name is like keep it so sex and some cheesey ass ship like that. You know what I'm saying, Keep it something like that. And I put it out and it got great feedback, and I just kept dropping them. You know what I'm saying. We ten ten pleasures on the kiss project. I just dropped the kis Seis last year went on talk with the same thing. So that shit just stuck. Bro. And if she made they gonna buy the record. They're gonna they gonna buy everything up. They gonna make sure them being you filled up, you know what I'm saying. So when I you know, when I caught Winter that, I just kept going. With this ship that fall along my ship fall line. Man, what hard? I made it by that girl that was in the studio that same day. I was talking about her. She was I'm recording she in the lines and she getting the mother fucker nurse only like she gotta fallow the line. So I'm talking about I'm talking. I heard you know what I'm saying. I swear, I swear to God that ship what to follow? You told her fall a line? So I got major. I'm in line now, Marilyn Moreau is my ship? Yeah, that's the one I made my one of my top I made all lass baby that so science here because cousin. You know what I mean, hard Les, all the siry god fathers for show what show? Ado? What? What did you feel like? You like cracked the seal like in the music. And it's crazy we're here but finally now he here? Yeah, no, that's why he laughed. Yeah he was the show. You know you tied listen to a mother fucker. He's family, he said, could I say breakthrough? This' even work? When did you feel like you made it? When I feel like I made it? There we go, damn more appropriate for the time. I don't need a couple of times, you know what I'm saying. But now ship, I feel like the first time I heard myself on the radio. Do you know what I'm saying? Because before I heard myself on the radio. We was alright. We was outside before five times a week in the club. You know what I'm saying, going down to Alabama, nook the Carolina. You know what I'm saying, running around this ship just outside. And when I first heard myself on the radio, like okay, cool, like some of that worked and paid off. Now it's trying to get some money. When I heard myself on the radio, is still broke. So I had to figure out, okay, cool outside of my neighborhood know me outside of you know what I'm saying, cod Mary, and they know me. Now it's trying to find out to really get some money. Yeah, this ship was it cut off? Now? I was talking called all night? Oh okay party, I know it's run the same time, walker, Oh, let's do it. And you was port all the way time. That's still their twenty teen right, yeah, twenty. Ship. You might be right, browe team because I got here. Oh no, you look like twenty God damn you watch that. Game for real real? Still in still doing it? That's hard, you know what I'm saying. So I think that was around the first time. Do you still perform some of them old custers for your core, not THEMN, not THEMN, not them, not even money. Don't perform Running Bay for show money baby, because all that classes ship for sure. Yeah I can't. I can't do it show without doing that ship was saying. But far no, not everything, but like like, for example, my last tour is uh kids six tour. You know what I'm saying, how my drop? So you gotta be mindful like they coming for the album, so I you know what I'm saying, I can't be doing all the old ship, so I try to sprinkle it in just to keep that you know what I'm saying, that they feel. But yeah, that's what I always wanted to wonder, I mean wanted to ask artists too, like yeah, y'all name the you know what I mean, the tour tape or the album. Yeah, but how does that process work? Because you gotta you gotta do something. I gotta play this. I love the tape, but I got my bitch, you got to I'm trying to relive that Maryland exactly. And and and that what I'll be thinking about, hey when I do that song, But they had like that ship brand new. Every time I performed the I got man, y'all got come on my shoulder. Bro about my cousin went to your one. I think he was in Chicago. I was fucking with these need working and just got loaded. Yeah, bro, he told me it was a good ass tone. They really got an intimate sending in your ship. For sure. You talk about you know what I'm saying, people, especially women, I'm saying, by the records and support. What's I like knowing that you got such a strong fan base like them because you look at any TikTok, any social media real bow. Yeah, they fucking on you. You the soundstrack for a lot of ship. For sure. It's crazy because when I first like really got into that, I ain't really want to do something for the female you know what I'm saying. I thought that ship was just like man because that was my vibe. That wasn't the niggas I was around. They wasn't doing that. Everybody listening to y'all, Rob Dolph, you know, everything trapped out. So you know, when I kind of start leaning towards the female records, them niggas ain't want to hear that ship, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, I shouldn't fuck with it. But like I said, when I tapped in with the with the Kids projects, not the reaction you don't got from the fans, and you know what I'm saying, I just try to like lean towards another side. They like, man drop that kids drop the ship for you know what I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I ain't gonna just ignore the ship because if they want, gonna have to give it to them. So that turned into, like, you know what I'm saying, a decade worth of a vibe, bro. Do it for like two different careers or two different audiences or two different like creation processes when you're doing music that you want to do them. I'm saying, I got some ship dropping this money. That's super hard. I can't. Yeah, I can't tell y'all who was with, but I'm popping. Ship the whole project. It really ain't no, you know, I'm be Y Jimmy popping ship for the city. I think it was your time for it to be summertime. Yeah, what I'm saying, the energy up. You know what I'm saying. Life good. You know what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure y'all life is good y'all doing flashy on the internet every day. You know what I'm saying, doing y'all. You know what I'm saying, y'all. You know what I'm. Saying, y'all. You know what I'm saying. We all working, you know what I'm saying. So it's just time to just have fun with this ship. Yeah. Yeah, I got a question, man, saving. What was going on in the studio when you said it ain't nothing to cut that bit off? Like what happened? What the what's the vibes? Interest? Because that's what she do the same type of ship bro all a lot, because then you fall. I need to know the back for saying their life all these songs, Bro, I sort of got all these songs. Is something that happened, you know what I'm saying. I don't think I got one song out there that something ain't happened with that situation happen, you feel me? But I was just some just some young niggas ship man. I would what what the song cut all came out two thirteen fourteen, so all about like twenty two twenty three? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Just when I stayed with my manager, Uh, we was on thrown roll. He had a big air crib and ship. So you know, I had a little I had my own room and I had the studio room, and ship sold. Just one of the day. You know what I'm saying, another studio day. I had met this little freak that weekend in the club. Yo. She said, you know what I'm saying, what you show on the weekend. I told her I was on the weekend and the studio and ship everybody about them. So, you know what I'm saying. As young they get, we know how he was. As young, they gonna. Got to get some play. You know what I'm saying, loaded, getting drunk, get every thing. You know what I'm saying, You're gonna set the viright, absolutely, So I'm turned waiting for it. You know what I'm saying, She to my she on the way I got the line of Maritas. I went the gas station. Across the street. No, you don't freaking County Young was the flavor. It was the dreen ones one here they want. Checks out though this before the flavors came out. When I dropped the song that when they dropped the flavors. Yeah, that's that's when the strawberry strawberry strawberry drop. They got a little work better that or the court orders on a lot of on the feet. Said the cold Waters, I just have one for the first time the other day. The co water. Don't get no hangover that a lot of maria. You're risking at all? They mix nothing with that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. As they were like the four local about to say four logos our ship too. We's on all that reason is crazy. But today's show is brought to you by our family hard Rock Bet Florida Sports Book. The second round and the Conference finals of the NBA Playoffs are here where the lights are brighter and the pressure is higher, and every procession can change a series. And on hal Rock Bet every night it's your side to score a major bucket. With winner go home energy on the hardwood man, we love the same game part lays man. How every drive up Harrod Beck is you a chance to stack your picks and get this money. If you're a relationship off, don't worry. Hard Rock Bet lets you live bet all game long, from the first bucket to the final buzzer. Try your first bet on Harrock Bet today. You get one hundred and fifty bonus bets. If you win, just place five dollars and if it hits you get all your winnings, but also extra one hundred and fiftyen bonus bets. 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If you or somebody you know as a gambling problem wants helped call what eight hundred and nine with it in Arizona, Ohio, Virginia called one eight hundred My reset gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler. Yeah, man, long story short man. I had already got down drunk to the line of ready to getting ready for the virgin Know what I'm saying. I had a little hend Some of them vibed out waiting for adl like so when she comes, is up. You know what I'm saying, rescript So she cab me? Does she never pull it up? She never pulled up. I'm still in the studio. I'm still having a poldo full of beats. Yeah, I pull a little wheeler fool. It ain't nothing to cut that bitch out. I just kept repeating that ship. I'm mad. I'm slipped man. Oh god man, man, I ain't trying it too cool for the ship. I was slip. Hey. You know, I was like, god damn, a big capy. So I wanted to my it ain't nothing, you know, I'm like this ship kind of I'm feeling like it. You know what I'm saying. Whatever recording, if I'm feeling it, and I'm like, oh, this ship actually making me feel something, you know what I'm saying. And I just kept going and I played it for my uh I think it was one of my partners. He was like, what the fuck is this? And when I every time I play something, somebody didn't wanted my my like key factor. But I'm doing music, I might say we just chopping up. I might let the song play in the background. I might just play, you know what I'm saying, just a slick ship, just to catch a reaction. If I get that reaction, I'm looking for already. That's how I know that's the one. Okay, So cut her off, sent you through there. Tend me through there, shout out there. Man, she got me paid? Do it again? Know if somebody capped me down? For sure? Does she know that was burling bro So, I don't know, I just said in the interviews, but honestly, Brack and I swear to god, I don't know who the girl was. I don't known. I do not if she would walk by me today who she was? He said, you ain't getting knowe of these worlds, don't you, bladed? So did you hit her like ship? Where you're at where you're still coming now. I ain't want the type niggas ain't gonna I ain't gonna just flood your life. It is over, is well, I'm saying, when did you know she wasn't pull it up? Which was red like forty five minute past. Oh yeah, she pulling up. I'm really kicking in. That one. I was like, Okay, she she playing? She playing like the last time I. Talked to it, be here, dpu get wicked, man, what's so? He said? That's the song that guys, you know what I'm saying, cracking? What was that first purchase? Like that first crazy? All right, I got it now, dude, I always wanted to do. Yeah. To be honest, brian't really blow my hit when I when I got it on bro smart man, you know what I'm saying. But I fucked the money up, and don't get the twist. I fucked it up. I fucked it out. I think the biggest purchase I made was my Sprinter. So I wanted all my guys going on the road and ship and and cribs in l A sixteen. Dollars a month. Rent. You know I was sucking it up. That's that's how fucking it up. I wasn't like just you know, I buy clothes, you know what I'm saying. I got a Porsche and ship, like you know ship that was on my gage board and ship at the time. But I ain't really just fucked my bag up. I think just life expense is kind of like start hitting that motherfucker. What so you was you was signed yeah, ten of scupe Okay, Sunny hen Scope. I went Indepenion in twenty twenty two. So that was after the song came out and you got some trash or you signed before cut off and uh it was money Baby first. Money Baby was the four cutter off. Yeah no, actually it was do It with Michael Yeah that ship right, Yeah, that was in Atlanta, boys, I dropped the honey Baby. I was. I was catching traction in the city. Like that's when the labels got you, you know what I'm saying. But I already had cut off, So I leaked cut Off and then it went up, but the label was already trying to sign me. So that's how I ended up being like a in the school situation, because you know, they gonna it was the best label in the game at the time, they still wanted the top labels. Yeah, what's I want to ask, Like, let's get some game. But what's the difference between your opinion between you staying independent and signed into a label when you first starting out? When you first starting out? Yeah, should you lot get the bag and bet on yourself? Shit, that's what you gotta do with everything for real. But I feel like everybody's situation kind of different, bro, because when I first got signed and we all start independent. But when I first got signed, yeah, that was that was life to me, you know what I'm saying. Because I wanted to sign and sculpe my whole career. You feel me so, But when I got signed, you know what I'm saying, you go through the tried and tipulations of it. You know what I'm saying. Of course I got I got faged from it, I got money from it. But then I got stuck in a situation that wouldn't working for me, you know what I'm saying the long run. So when I find a way independent, I feel like my whole life changed. I got everything, you know what I'm saying, My business was, so I. Can't really People ask me this all the time, like do what would work for you. You know what I'm saying. You in a contract with a major, our majors, ain't gonna, ain't gonna, ain't gonna suck your You know what I'm saying. If you know your if you know your your agreements and your term. So I signed young, bro. You know what I'm saying. And I ain't no ship. I just wanted some money. I just want to be in the studio and get drunk. You know what I'm saying. How much I can say on it now? You keep anything just like this, motherfucker be to your. Uncok Okay, cool, you know what I'm saying. Fucking roles and ship like that's the only. Thing I wanted to do. That's real. You know that's how this came about. Let me ask you this because you said you bought a sprinter where all your guys can travel with you. As you've gotten older, it is your aunthor IgE still. That big shure. It's all right. I remember that. I think I remember that. Just start calling you start yea, and that started causing life started having. You know what I'm saying, Friendship ain't friendship no more like man, it's a lot of coming with that boy. That shit started costing you a hotel room and what ship? Let me go and get this I'm. Trying to tell you, like security camera, man, DJ, that's all I need. I mean, when y'all realize that's too much though, Like when. You see that check and the boys come in Shi and thin you see you see the account go down a little further than. Value to you know what I mean, Cause he like to be real. I don't know for me, but like you bought a big house up. You got the house in LA for sixteen thousand a month because your guys gonna be with you mee, so you like they having a good ass time. Ma, ship my check keep going down. They ain't worry about ship. They laid on the cheat and ship now for really you start looking like fuck that light bus going off. He's like you work with other people at that point after the Jordan and this ship don't last over us. You know what I'm saying. It's the fact, but you don't know that during that time, you're just trying to live because she fun this type of life, your whole life. When you get in and you just like fuck it. But then you're like hold on did you. Have a mama where ship slowed all the way? Yeah? Yeah, I had had one of the moments I was in I was living in Alfareddo in another big as house, doing the same ship. I was doing what you know what, saying, I didn't learn my lesson, you know what I'm saying. And my mama was helping with the management, doing my finance at one point, and she, you know what I'm saying, hit me with the reality check, like you keep this ship up, You're gonna be in trouble for sure. That when I just tightened up. We had two bank accounts. I told her the money that I had in this account, make sure the bills paid. I'm gonna take this account and do what I gotta do. And I did what I had to. Dot the this ship back up. You know what I'm saying. I'm just back, Yes, sir, it's back in action game. Shout the money back like you said. I'm a car dude, so I gotta ask what portion would you grab? Uh? Pannamara Pedomara had that ship on my business board for a long time. So I just bought this in cash too. I was liked thinking like brou If when I was a nine to eleven. Yeah, I had that on the vision board. M hm, almost them call nigga here man, what's it call? Well, little man, living little tea. So I wanted to ask with the streaming there obviously the way the things in music is pushed out now, is it easier to make music or is it harder to make music? No, it's easy to make music. It's probably the easiest ever been in music history right now. But is it easy to make money in music? No? You know what I'm saying. I don't know if y'all know too much about like the streaming business, but just you know what I'm saying, just how to royalty rates and the percentage. Artists get on their own records? It just which is depends on the dollar. Huh, That's what I'm saying. What how many strange do you have to give for us to get down? They streams? I want to say Apple, I don't want to get it wrong either. Apple Spotify million strains equal four thousand dollars. So for a million people listen to your music, you know, to get four thousand dollars. Imagine a million people listen to music and get your dollar, you a millionaire. Yeah, so fact, you know what I'm saying, So that the math don't really be math. And so if you if you're a new. Artist in the game trying to you know, make some money, it's gonna take you longer because nobody know you. So they're not listening unless you're going hand in hand direct consumers saying hey, this is ten dollars is ten dollars, and you making your money to the right there, so or you got to be established, you know what I'm saying, Like a torn you gotta be a torn artist. You gotta you know what I'm saying. You gotta sell tickets and people got to like, yeah hard tickets and people got like your music. You gotta have it like just like. One song, because I know, like you drop an album, so it's like four thousand dollars for one song. Like if you listen to one song a million times. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so they can add up. Yeah, so that's you know, million strings on ten songs. Yeah, be here. The question just ain't a lot of money. Oh man, it's a lot of money. Yeah, I say that. You got the same numbers like that a podcast, oh yeah, but on YouTube it's a little bit better. Just it's all about time. And I would say for YouTube because if you catch it at the right stride, like say somebody sharp, Yeah, well you catch a straw like that. Yeah, the ads and the revelue that that price goes facts, you and everybody our worithm. You superseded every fact, fact tracks be here to asked a million dollar question is like what's the cost of streaming? It's like they made the ship up. I said, it was the crazy part. The. Fake ass they just put together and we got there and got to buy it. But that's that's tough, especially as a rapper. I'll be on tour Nigga every. Day is as an artist though, you know what I'm saying, I'll be talking. I'll be telling you these niggas this all the time, the interviews, Learn your business. You know what I'm saying. So many it's so many ways to get money in the industry. You know what I'm saying, Muse the industry. Yeah, it's it's it's multiple income strains from like YouTube, like so many platforms that you can pull the money from. And it's not just streaming, you know what I'm saying. So our artists understand. Just get your business together and you can leverage. Get your credit shit together, go get along. You know what I'm saying, you really want to. It's ways around to get money if you tighten up your business, if you just out here just just doing bullsh which we all did. I did. I'm a bit the mud. But when I tightened up, the money tightened up too. That's interesting. I've seen somebody talking. I forgot what was but shouted and they was just like. The independent artists now look like the wealthy artists compared to the people that saw because they have so much control. They're doing hand to head sales. They might sell twenty thousand copies of the CD, but that's direction sooner a different story. Yeah, Larussell just pour something like that, you know what I'm saying. Like he made what a hundred some thousand on it? He did something. I ain't really pay it. I seen it like a little clip of it, but he did. He independent as a motherfucker. Not he row Nation, but that ship. Possibly if you give you in the backyard with that, you feel me. If you got a fan base, bro, you're talking to your people and if they really fuck with you, they're gonna they gonna they're. Gonna stand with turning on the market too. Yeah, put on the markets you from s some goddamn you so for sure. But I'm saying, if you and Cali you THEMN there, Yeah, twelve game. But if you and Cali you. Don't gotta come all the way over here, you know, napping ship where we are, you can fuck the whole state up, exactly. Bro, mal box money, Bro. All the people to Proud to Play campaign that was there early on, that was very, very flourishing. What's some stuff that you do to stay relevant to keep you you know what I mean in the mix? Do you use social media or do. You pop out? Okay, you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. For a long time, I was behind the scene, Bro, I was really. Just a studio rap. I'm still a studio rat. But yeah, I ain't give a damn by the other side of the business, like the fame side, as you wanted to get paid, do my ship, you know what I'm saying. But as far as to stay relevant, you know, PR, I like learn the business, like have my PR. Make make sure I'm that pairs fashion Week, make sure the Grammy's Bill. You know all these you know f one, all this ship that everybody do. You know what I'm saying, you pop out? You know what I'm saying. Because I'm gonna always do my ship like you know home Base. I'm gonna make sure I'm working and my ship. I'm giving that product out. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna do my part. But now the other parties like, all right, let me get in front of me. Turn you up. You know what I'm saying exactly. You know what I'm saying. I was against a lot of this ship for a long time. Bro. We know I was against Are you why? Why why are you? Bro? We do decent Wetki. Sing? He said, what why you was against it? Bro? Like cub bro like, I don't know. It was just. Anxiety bad Brokay. You know what I'm saying. It like I'm scary, shad. You're like, I'm a private nigga. You know what I'm saying. The nigga might ask the wrong question. I might God damn say like for example, I just did just the boy. I'm on six shots. You know what I'm saying. What I'm on a six shot? When when they say it was dropping. I was like, damn, what the fuck did I say in the interview? You know what I'm saying? It like they'd be like, ash, you know what I'm saying. We get from behind these cameras doing you feel me a lot of supposed to be doing. Goofy ass ship. I ain't no goofy nigga. But you know what I'm saying. You might slip up and say some shit you ain't posted to one time. But so that's why I really stayed away. Fro ship. Yeah, for sure, we off six shots on this motherfucker. It'd be laughing. We might be what I said. Yeah, by the way, that's when we first started. Yeah that ship ever gets released or anything. It was good noise you kept. It would turned, No, it was turned. I know you don't even have video. Yeah, gets straight all yeah ship. Then you go about like picking your cities like when you planning your tour. Uh, the data in the back end, Okay, I don't want the fans in. You're real strategic, you know what i'maying, not really bushing around, just popping up and a random ass citats thinking it's gonna come see me knowing exactly where they at. Have you ever just chose one just like man, let me add this just to see and ended up being better than you expected. Like a city. Yeah yeah, my agent, my agent has you know what I'm saying, Say I announce the tour and we ain't got a certain city on the on the on the line up and people in the comments going crazy, and you'd be like, man, we got to add. This city and we added in it be some be some fun ship. We altays talk about the streaming era of music, But now having the information that you that I had before, does that kind of help with something? Yeah? Yeah, he yet, that's all I do. I'm raph a nerve when it come to that ship. Now, yeah, you know what I'm saying, when it comes to the back end of daya, all the emails, phone numbers, like I don't play around with that, like that's like our main business model when that's the reason why my ship. So you know what I'm saying. Tight now pause, that's that's yeah. He locked that. He locked it. Like, man, what's the artist that you ain't worked for each other? That you you know what I mean? What with uh you know that question right there? Bro, I'm at the point my at my stage in my career, I don't even be chasing that ship no more. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Niggas wanted to rock with me. They gonna rock with me, you know what I'm saying. I'm a type of artist now like when I was a young nigga, I always try to like reach out to them, the niggas that was in front of me going crazy, and some of them fucked with me, some of them didn't, And that shit bothered me for a little while. You know. You know what I'm saying. We all got our itist that we look up to it like damn, I can't wait. To get on like fun with this nick and getting studio do a song with this nigg blah blah, and this shit don't happen. So I kind of like change my mind, I said, when it came to this shit, I'm like, Okay, cool, I'm gonna be the the influence in the in the young o g to the to the new niggas, and I'm gonna set away for the for the young niggas, you know what I'm saying, and be the one if I get on your song, they stamped, you know, what I'm saying, they gonna You know what I'm saying, it's the one, or even if I don't get on the song, if I sing with it, you know what I'm saying, Just that, just that I'm the one you need, like I could for real or somebody. You know what I'm saying, Nigga, that is just influential. You're like, okay, cool, that's the approach, y'all. You know what I'm saying. Who listen to other people's music like up and Coming and he'd be like, oh damn me holler at him. Yeah, not everybody. Ship. Everybody ain't jamming like that, but a lot of niggas be jamming, you know what I'm saying. But I don't try to get too indulged in folks. I like the only reason I really tune into a lot of people's shit because I be so locked you in on my ship and I be I got to hear somebody else shit. You know what I'm saying. Because I come from like the writing camps like uh a kon writing camps in Florida with niggas like Lucky Day before he was Lucky Day and agon a whole bunch of you know what I'm saying, Verse Simmons and niggas like that as foolish, you know what I'm saying. So I like to hear other artists so I can make sure i'm in in my back. I ask, how is that feeling? Now? Obviously you know can put an industry slidify yourself. Now, you got people who come to you for a certain sound and want that certain vibe, a certain steady Yeah, what's that feeling like? You know what I'm saying That you catered to that role for a lot of people, like you said being og for some people thin. Line with that one, Okay, a lot of them like steal soft respect. Oh lord, just a way. So these days are real picky of who I let in my creative mix, you know what I'm saying, Because a lot of niggas that came around and just pieces of a nigga and just putting on their ship like it was theirs. You know what I'm saying, that's ship I don't like. But if you're coming around and you generally genuinely want to work and we creating all, you know what I'm saying, off each other energy, I'm cool with that. And I don't mind. I'm an artist, but I love making music. I love just hearing new ship. You know what I'm saying. I just started producing three years ago. I make all my beats now. You know what I'm saying. The shit I be making, You know what I'm saying. Like my next album produced by me fully So it's like I just like being around creative shit, but not niggashould just come around you with the wrong intentions, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, what's one solid money some one song that you had or you could have had that you're supposed to be on? He said, what niggas great? They said, what's one stag you had could have had or what was supposed to be on that you I regret I got. I messed up on you said a song I had that? What you mean that you passed on? Like a Beamer song or so he could have been a part of you, Like damn, I wish I would do that. In this ship, old though, I'll put you on Trapporter go Short to Go? Are you boys? I was? I was in the house suspends in them that day and they was recorded. How there was recording I had once the crib that shows that showed that was that was that was hard that Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, they used to get the girls going as the mother Yes, I was playing had nothing going at that time. You would have toured off that the hell I blow that one. But ship that that kind of mind first, bro, you know what I'm saying, other ship, I don't care. Niggas don't get damn by that. You're look clear, first, you're writing for other people like other big this or you just nah. I used to I used to, I put that, I put that ship down that It makes sense. Like I keep telling everybody, if I ain't in the studio with Rihanna, Beyonce with them or somebody, I'm not doing the past. You my song. You passed that, nigga. You passed that nigga didn't see. I always wondered what in the process of like, like if you wrote a whole song for the motherfucker, hows. It go with you getting depend on the artist though, Like you write a song for upcoming artists, you ain't really gonna get paid like that unless the song blow up and be number one on you know what I'm saying. Hot hot, But so you get your money on the back end from that. Yeah, you know if it's streng and I remember I told y'all it'sion, so million strings. Got to split that between five niggas and management and the lawyers and Ship. You're gonna sucking around get one hundred dollars writing a song. She ain't making up. You know what I'm saying, Dad out have a songwriters. You know what I'm saying. I wish somebody would put something in place to change that. But that shit ain't don't look good, Damn man, that's filthy to write a song and the motherfuckersing you. Man, it's like splatching on Ti Tark that little fucking bugo stories out there like that. Right now, I'll be seeing Ship all the time on the internet. See, y'all need to have just a bad This cost one hundred thousand. You want this if you if you popping enough, you can charge and it got out the gate like you can get your You were in the top songwriters in the game. Niggas know that this is gonna be hit, So I same bucket for sure. What I'm saying. That's so you gotta you gotta price on them beats. You can produce the whole thing. I ain't putting no price on them bitches yet I might need to go, don't trip, I will look, I'm just making it for me for real. That being linking by it and saying I got something. You know, say, I shoot, y'all niggas beats, I ain't ship you know what I'm saying. Okay, I can't wait. Somebody go up on one of my beats around the place. Definitely going I do that. I don't want to charge, y'all. I'm tired and whoever signed y'all okay label getting charged? There is we love good three sixty let'st's figure it out. Hell, try to put them on. Fuck in the seven twenty years, you're still your artist. Yeah, that's one of my artists here right. Yeah, we got rid of him. He didn't meet this quarter. He did a tour, he was in the rig. He did a ten city tour and ten people showed up. A person say that's my new artists over there over there. He kills you know what I'm saying. I said, I want to be singer man at the Tappinions beat for Yeah. And how we found out. We did a live show. We was on black effects. God I said, black don't get feel talk about me here. We did a live show with Nave Grey bitchhout to Black Effects saying, he said, y'all number one a Black Effects nigga. Wen't. I was like. When you weressigned to the label, did you after have to do some ship that they just sprung on you? Like, man, pull up, you gotta do this? Didn't watch the funck y'all. Let me know. There's a lot of ship. Not what you mean, like do something like interviews and ship interviews like yeah, like I used to hang on lie. I don't know if I said my fucking I don't even I used to hate going to New York do press because that was like my first time going New York. And the time I went to New York, it was like a a you and like five interview interviews. I never really got to. Experience that ship, and that ship was like nah, you know what I'm saying. But as far as like I did what I wanted, bro, you know what I'm saying, it wasn't no control. I had created control of my songs. Everything I heard, you know what I'm saying. It was all us wild out, So it wasn't really know. It was just a business. But I was young, so I understand the business because they were just doing what the hell they they supposed to do with the ship. For sure, for sure, I know you be growing. Man. What's you do with your free time? Man? Free time? Ship? Hawks, game gun range? Yeah, go hoop? Still you know what I'm saying. Are you still in the wreck with it? Yeah? La fittish type ship? Oh, la fitish, don't hype it up like it's really going crazy. I'm saying, you really like basketball because I don't hol ouside wor every day. You know what I'm saying. I make sure I stay in the gym. You know what I'm saying, keep my ship together. But as far as Nigga tried your la finish it. No, I get busy, man, I still got some shit going on. You didn't get the abl man. Nah, I'm making a call for you, bro. Ship like that, like, you know what I'm saying, I love that ship. Yeah, I'm not trying to go. To the league. Brother, he's taking this. Right now. Like I'm like, dog, the niggas ain't gonna call you. Thout's not gonna call you. But I respect the hustle. Man, I respect that ship that I'm sent, but like, I'm not trying to just go in the league and twist my ship up, fuck my knee up, and now I can't beform and do my job and ship. I'm not with that. I'm smarter with this ship, for sure. What's some game you gotta for like a younger artist trying to come up in the game, Man, get your lawyer. That's the good first. Yeah, get your lawyer, learn your business. Keep you a creative team around to keep you some genuine folks around because you're gonna you're gonna it's gonna get tricky. Stay in that studio. If you love this ship, stay in that studio. That's really you know what I'm saying. One hit changed your life, man, One hit changed my life, and I was mad at a bit chamber life. You know what I'm saying. Like another advice, you know what I'm saying, The emotions real, nigga, Tap in nigga, marina or not tap in with the emotions nigga, you might get rich. No, for sure. How many hours do you spend in the studio? It depends, bro. I ain't gonna lie like and that shit be really fucking with my head sometimes because like like five, I ain't get say four five three four years ago, I feel like I was in the studio more. Now, I feel like I'll be going to the studio when I feel something instead of just being in there just being that mother forul Like, I try to be as intentional as I can when it come to making music because back in the day, you know what I'm saying, studio rat shit. You in that bit from morning to four five in the more, you know what I'm saying, like more in the morning type shit. So I don't know, it's just whatever. I you know what I'm saying. When I do go in there, I know I'm going in there with something. Now I know I'm gonna hit. Show for show you what I'm saying. Like you said how you used to put up to the studio back when you first started. You still up the same way, like maybe you less people there do lo now s you producing and make it. So Yeah, majority of my ship I record at the crib by myself. The biggest songs I recorded by myself, like probably like ninety percent of the motherfuckers. Oh damn, Like what's on your mind? Ice cold mail by myself. So that was my That's how it was. That was my workflow for a long time because I ain't want my pint to hear me singing. I want to be singing with Roman full of niggas and ship like. You know what I'm saying, that ship uncomfortable. Yeah, room for of the niggas singing Maryland. Feeling that ship. Nah, I ain't with that over in your mind, you know what I'm saying. Boy, I gotta be by myself with them motherfuckers. How you go upuy naming the song is Marylyn Moroe. I was crazy. That's what that name? Man. I ain't say Maryland old one time. I think I made that song by the girl. They work their magic. I think she's still working, man. Ship to tell you probably ta probably knowing man stopped one of us. Know, I know for a fact, ship love man. But what you say, he's one of the. But now. It was. It really was a strict clubs song by her. I just wanted to like a a face that year. I don't know, I really don't remember how. I think I was just on Google and her she popped up or something, and I just like, damn, my name to be mailing bro because it rolled out the tongue. Because she was a demon back you feel me? Yeah, And that played a role too. I don't know why I told mail the Morodo like, I don't know. For sure. Hey man, shout to this worst like you said, boy the real boy, you feel me? If you know I do, it might get you paid. I was liking her at that time too. I'm like, how to fun fast forward. I'm like, but that's who I made the song about. You was liking her, not liking her, about to go with her. But he ain't saying, you know, you be in the club that we vied up? What's her name? You know what I'm saying. I must have forgot too many city too, strippers do that? Do it to you? What's your real name? You know what I'm saying, stripping name? I told stripping name, what's your name? At a few jobs and trying to Hey, that ship different. If y'all in town, If y'all in town, Monday, y'all here, Monday, y'all a here, Monday. I told you I'm having a party Monday. Man birthday, Monday. Turn floke city man, flow city Man. Hey, shitty man. Monday. Man, Yeah, we come my mother. I really need you. Man, Oh, mann't. Gonna be invoved now I see myselves. I tell us, tell us how you feel about the goddamn Hawks? Boy? Loving this ship? Damn love it. You know what I'm saying. Hawks and five Hawks and five man bout to spike the Knicks tonight. Damn. I don't want this ship to come out here. We're just coming out today. Get on your. Like you all that crazy? But now you know what I'm saying. We try to catch it up. Man. You know the city tight, ain't we ain't think you see that go co go crazy? But yeah he was crazy. Man, I see your a They call your property. They said nobody saw the vision before Jeff did. Are you saying it? I feel it. It's cool he did. I ain't gonna while he did. But I think we'll. Like I asked you before, when trade got traded, we thought you all was like it was wicked them trying to get the number one pick. For real. We don't get there anywhere. I mean yeah, but I'm just saying it was looking like a rebuild session for sure. Sure it's looking good as long as everybody stay healthy. I thought that was gonna sign and then get up out of here on some ship like that. Now he's gonna be here for a couple more years here to sign. Hey, what's that environment like in the arena when you're in that motherfucker bro this ship. Finally, I ain't gonna lie. I got season course, I ticket, but I swear my sister be selling eighty percent of my tickets. Cut take out on God. Now I'll be gone or just like she didn't it's the game, dad, like. Ye saying, look saying, But now I'm like, okay, cool, sign me up. I'm there. When isn't you okay? When'd you starting taking your ticket? Is going to the game, but I've been going to I didn't have the C ticket for like three four year bro, you know what I'm saying. But just like. It was a lot, we had a little rough patch, you know what I'm saying. So basically take last week. You know what I'm saying, i'd. Been I'd have been a couple of games this year for sure. Trade treading was all right. Trade that was cool. It was we kept getting traded. It was like he kept you, hey, man. She's still lip. Come on, man, what the city. By the time it's coming out, manf we still be Victoris with the Hawks. Man. If not pray, we're gonna clip it up either way. For shure man, well, we out here can't tell the new projects. You got away, new project dropping real real. Soon, right, Yeah, we got something dropping next month for the city. Man, This is for the city. It's for everybody, but it's for the city. Me and me and I can't tell you, but yeah it's come. I'll tap in on my dog for sure. We appreciate you for sliding on another. Wise, man shouts I Feld over there bootsmoke, but tapp being ok camp. We need a chirp like the old days. Man, bring the vos back for show. Shout out the stock X, shout the hard rock. Bet we appreciate y'all. Will catchy'all next time. Cluff twenty zero the volume Mahm