Club 520 - K Camp on KISS albums, CRAZY story on "Cut Her Off" w/ 2 Chainz, music streaming

Club 520 Podcast

We’re back with Season 4, Episode 58 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen are joined by Atlanta rapper, singer, and songwriter K Camp! The legend in the music game talks about the difference between signing with a label and going solo, and how the game has changed with streaming music. Plus, K Camp tells an incredible story of how "Cut Her Off" featuring 2 Chainz came about. And don't miss the guys talk about K Camp's basketball career, working with Travis Porter on "Go Shorty Go," the K.I.S.S. albums, and so much more!

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All right, man, we back live in Atlanta, Georgia. Man
tigue hometoime man Club five to twenty. You know the
our special guests introduced him last. But first things first,
shout to our family over there at boost Mobile.
You know the vibes.
Man, we got something special coming in May. And listen,
I know you've been around, bro. Did you have a
trapphone back in the day, next till church.
Of course we all did from the city. What was
I ring tall Ship? The church? Well, the ring, the
ring time for the church.
Yeah, you just heard the side button now. I used
to play the gems on there.
Too, a lot of songs and he put whatever on there.
Oh yeah yeah, something asked some tc a hunderground ship
on my ring?
Tom? Okay, yeah, I probably don't.
Nobody don't damn ring tall are Yeah, a whole lot
for sure. Man, tap me with the bootsmoke with him
and shot the hard rock bed. Be here, playoff topic,
get this money. If you had to put some chicken down,
hold the chance right now, out the east and the
west be here.
Who you're ruggling with?
Futures Cleveland? Okay, see mm hmm, after gate, I'll let
it know, allright. Put a thousand on the man, put
a stack one, put a stack on. Oh on both
of you, bet for both of them will go to
the fire.
Oh yeah, okay, strong.
Though, Now are you a betman? You know what I'm saying.
You catch me with the sports game.
Okay, so it's one of your best licks you ever
got off the part layers or the or the game.
Something you saw I have to.
Bro probably probably like two bands on some prize picked ship.
Okay, okay, shoot.
Yeah, shout the hord rock back baby, use some eyes,
tax and stuff twenty another ox restore. Man, I guess
keep it us fresh. And it said as well, I'm
your host night is DJ Wills.
Man.
Like we said in the A Special guests introduce some
last as usually to my far left. We got my
dog Bishop be here out the pearlies. How you wasn't
nasty cool.
And nasty glad to be in Atlanta? Baby, let's get
to it.
Okay man, Yeah, the vobs a little bit different here man,
we in a master sweet. You know what I'm saying.
Shout out the freaky Mike Man, appreciate you putting us
up your role.
Man, that's right, that's right. Yeah, No, this is to
be hearing from oh that nigga won't be charging somebody
so bad, but now seeing the nigga want to be
another nigga so bad they police siga. Man, it's right,
my dog you not for your tea?
Got you what?
And jealous because I'm in gim popping be here?
Got a sweet? You know what? I mean you know
what I mean?
Shit nice.
We could have shout it anywhere, but right here it's crazy. Boy,
that's crazy.
I ain't gonna lie. I got my role.
I had to go Downstairst's say. I know y'all didn't
clean this. Boy, it was a hoop station in my
room for I checked there.
Boy, it was.
Makeup, says all over the wall. I said, baby girl
did not get dressed right here? Well, like we said,
man at us, only right where I wanted to fire
from Atlanta, Georgia.
Man, we've been waiting for this episode long time.
Be here.
We finally got him in man, mister k camp and
the building. Big dogs just slide on the side. Yah,
may appreciate y'all. Yeah, I tell you how y'all doing, man, Man,
we're good man. How you feeling, man?
Can't complain another day? Man getting to it? Were outside
to night though?
Oh yeah, talk about it? Listen a lot to talk
about it. Since you grew up in Atlanta. Obviously a
Falcons the Hawks man right shore for sure. How you
feeling about the Falcons getting to it?
Man? The Falcons? Yeah, hey, feel about the Falcons ship?
The Falcons is gonna be the Falcons. You know what
I'm saying, I pray, I pray for a better season.
You know what I'm saying, I got I got a
lot of love for the Falcons though, but we're trying
to figure it out.
It's crazy.
Every time we break up the Falcons in the city
niggas whole vibe became like it's like a funeral.
Feel like it's some time.
Ain't know a lot to you, feel like it's sometime.
It be living in main Stadium though it might not
play in the show, don't have some fun. We're gonna
have some fun, for sure. But Sheldon took me to
a couple of them football games. It'll be letting them
a little feel like a day look gold out.
Yeah, you get a little tricky man.
Well, y'all said the motherfucker, what are you?
Are you a Falcons? Was that one of your Yeah,
that was one of my teams out and retired them.
Yeah, I'm back. I'm back with the forty with the Falcons.
He said, what ask him when he quit the Falcons?
And you quit the five game.
When they lost the Super Bowl? Sure, when we was
up and I have built my ticket for the Medic
City Float.
I remember that too. You had money on that account.
I think we all did. So we did.
It was like super Bowl party was an ad man
had had a party at the crib.
That ship was disappointing.
Well you had, yeah, niggas probably getting drunk stain on table.
Niggasach that right, And I bought a ticket to fly
back to Atlanta go to the party that.
Might be the toughest ever for the city.
No, for sure, Well the one that stayed the more
for sure.
I ain't gonna live, man, Martin. Everybody get the hell
out of my house. I'm mad.
But we just go to the super Bowl.
Bro were still turn you know, they live, were still
would turn though, like you said, yeah, I seen them
so now, But I remember COVID boy y'all in Houston.
Y'all didn't give a damn about that. It was still
up for the city Atlanta. Hell live, Lanta never gets
We're used.
To it, used to what we usually got there going crazy.
Man, we went to lose.
It's my COVID no, no, no.
Shit, we wish it.
We're trying to get.
So now to you talking about he said, even though
you know what I'm saying. The teams weren't that good.
The vibes were still hot. Boy, them old walk seasons. Boy,
before y'all turned up. We went to the playoffs ere year.
We talk about Look, they didn't give a fun come
on teams there. Yeah, yeah, he went to the playoffs.
Away your hair cuts up, serious, man, it won't turn
Oh no, the game is always about They did not
care about the actual game to the playoffs. But it's
always a good team had a turn too. Hell yeah,
all right, man, going up a atm man, I want
to ask you a question. What's it like seeing the
city now what it is when he was growing up?
Is it a big difference?
A big difference? Yeah, for shure. You know what I'm saying.
As far as I'm from the city.
You know what I'm saying, I been in my whole life,
and I'll be going place and I don't know where
hill I'm at no more.
I swear to God.
The whole city changed, you know what I'm saying, The
vibe chain of the club change. It's still, it's still
motionally still, you know what I'm saying, a great environment
to thrive in. You know, but you know everything tang.
How you getting produced to music? Was that your first love?
Did you hoop play football and for her? Okay? Who
was you like that?
I was like ship my mind, Ship, like everybody like that.
He good, he sat for us.
You know what I'm saying.
I was hoop of first h I actually brough my
angle my twelve grade year summer league game and then I, uh,
you know what I'm saying. I was already doing the music.
You know what I'm saying, with the potteries and ship
and shit, I ain't had nothing else. The hoop was
the only thing I knew, So I just you know,
I'm saying, jump in the music bag and I ain't stopped.
I ain't look back, and you have some offers or something.
Hell no, Okay.
In my mind, I was like that, you put the
love of the game.
You love the guy.
You know what I'm saying.
You school about all ship?
What's your who?
Game?
Like?
He was like be here? Oh no, he won't. He
didn't played big Kim. Kim was probably PG God he
want you. Yeah. I was a point guardian center yeah yeah.
Hell he gave.
You know screen open role yeah yeah, yeah, there's our
it's be here every time you being the stretch for
it's funny because he be hanging on me.
Bro. Respect He's funny because I really seen you play
basketball high school though.
That's why it's funny.
Where you from Indianapolis. Yeah, he's play Okay, nigga. Uh
they my freshman year, Pike beat US eighty three to thirty.
That half who Pike was? No, he won the high school.
He was went, he was a rob.
Robert Vaydon is probably one of the greatest high school
basketball players I ever seen. In my wife, they had
a college basketball team, but yeah, any other basketball different,
Like I don't know if basketball basketball probably big down
here too, but like we everything is basketball up there, bro.
So these niggas on my mama, they could have beat
a small D one school back these times. Yeah for sure,
for sure. Yeah.
Man, you feel about football talk football basketball here?
Yeah?
Is that real?
You feel about that too? No from indian Oplids? Okay, okay, man,
I want to talk to you about the kids tapes. Man,
how that coming back? Man, sad Bro, that's what you
should the first one. Yeah, I wonder how it started.
Ship How the first one started, Bro. I think I
was just trying to find my sound at that time.
Yeah, and.
You know when when you when you when you're a
new artist, you are trying to find that sign. I
think I made a song for the females one time
in the in the you know female at school with
eating that it up. So let me just do a
whole project for the female ship.
You know what I'm saying. I named the kids.
I think the original name is like keep it so
sex and some cheesey ass ship like that.
You know what I'm saying, Keep it something like that.
And I put it out and it got great feedback,
and I just kept dropping them.
You know what I'm saying.
We ten ten pleasures on the kiss project. I just
dropped the kis Seis last year went on talk with
the same thing. So that shit just stuck.
Bro.
And if she made they gonna buy the record.
They're gonna they gonna buy everything up. They gonna make
sure them being you filled up, you know what I'm saying.
So when I you know, when I caught Winter that,
I just kept going.
With this ship that fall along my ship fall line. Man,
what hard?
I made it by that girl that was in the
studio that same day.
I was talking about her.
She was I'm recording she in the lines and she
getting the mother fucker nurse only like she gotta fallow
the line.
So I'm talking about I'm talking.
I heard you know what I'm saying. I swear, I
swear to God that ship what to follow?
You told her fall a line? So I got major.
I'm in line now, Marilyn Moreau is my ship?
Yeah, that's the one I made my one of my
top I made all lass baby that so science here
because cousin.
You know what I mean, hard Les, all the siry
god fathers for show what show?
Ado? What? What did you feel like? You like cracked
the seal like in the music.
And it's crazy we're here but finally now he here? Yeah, no,
that's why he laughed.
Yeah he was the show.
You know you tied listen to a mother fucker. He's family,
he said, could I say breakthrough? This' even work? When
did you feel like you made it?
When I feel like I made it?
There we go, damn more appropriate for the time.
I don't need a couple of times, you know what
I'm saying.
But now ship, I feel like the first time I
heard myself on the radio.
Do you know what I'm saying? Because before I heard
myself on the radio. We was alright.
We was outside before five times a week in the club.
You know what I'm saying, going down to Alabama, nook
the Carolina. You know what I'm saying, running around this
ship just outside. And when I first heard myself on
the radio, like okay, cool, like some of that worked
and paid off. Now it's trying to get some money.
When I heard myself on the radio, is still broke.
So I had to figure out, okay, cool outside of
my neighborhood know me outside of you know what I'm saying,
cod Mary, and they know me. Now it's trying to
find out to really get some money.
Yeah, this ship was it cut off? Now?
I was talking called all night? Oh okay party, I
know it's run the same time, walker, Oh, let's do it.
And you was port all the way time.
That's still their twenty teen right, yeah, twenty.
Ship.
You might be right, browe team because I got here.
Oh no, you look like twenty God damn you watch that.
Game for real real?
Still in still doing it? That's hard, you know what
I'm saying. So I think that was around the first time.
Do you still perform some of them old custers for
your core, not THEMN, not THEMN, not them, not even money.
Don't perform Running Bay for show money baby, because all
that classes ship for sure.
Yeah I can't.
I can't do it show without doing that ship was saying.
But far no, not everything, but like like, for example,
my last tour is uh kids six tour.
You know what I'm saying, how my drop?
So you gotta be mindful like they coming for the album,
so I you know what I'm saying, I can't be
doing all the old ship, so I try to sprinkle
it in just to keep that you know what I'm saying,
that they feel.
But yeah, that's what I always wanted to wonder, I
mean wanted to ask artists too, like yeah, y'all name
the you know what I mean, the tour tape or
the album. Yeah, but how does that process work? Because
you gotta you gotta do something.
I gotta play this.
I love the tape, but I got my bitch, you
got to I'm trying to relive that Maryland exactly.
And and and that what I'll be thinking about, hey
when I do that song, But they had like that
ship brand new. Every time I performed the I got man,
y'all got come on my shoulder.
Bro about my cousin went to your one. I think
he was in Chicago. I was fucking with these need
working and just got loaded. Yeah, bro, he told me
it was a good ass tone. They really got an
intimate sending in your ship. For sure.
You talk about you know what I'm saying, people, especially women,
I'm saying, by the records and support. What's I like
knowing that you got such a strong fan base like
them because you look at any TikTok, any social media
real bow. Yeah, they fucking on you. You the soundstrack
for a lot of ship.
For sure.
It's crazy because when I first like really got into that,
I ain't really want to do something for the female
you know what I'm saying. I thought that ship was
just like man because that was my vibe. That wasn't
the niggas I was around.
They wasn't doing that.
Everybody listening to y'all, Rob Dolph, you know, everything trapped out.
So you know, when I kind of start leaning towards
the female records, them niggas ain't want to hear that ship,
you know what I'm saying.
So I was like, I shouldn't fuck with it.
But like I said, when I tapped in with the
with the Kids projects, not the reaction you don't got
from the fans, and you know what I'm saying, I
just try to like lean towards another side. They like,
man drop that kids drop the ship for you know
what I'm saying. So I was like, Okay, I ain't
gonna just ignore the ship because if they want, gonna
have to give it to them. So that turned into, like,
you know what I'm saying, a decade worth of a vibe, bro.
Do it for like two different careers or two different
audiences or two different like creation processes when you're doing
music that you want to do them.
I'm saying, I got some ship dropping this money.
That's super hard. I can't.
Yeah, I can't tell y'all who was with, but I'm popping.
Ship the whole project.
It really ain't no, you know, I'm be Y Jimmy
popping ship for the city. I think it was your
time for it to be summertime. Yeah, what I'm saying,
the energy up. You know what I'm saying.
Life good. You know what I'm saying.
I'm pretty sure y'all life is good y'all doing flashy
on the internet every day. You know what I'm saying,
doing y'all. You know what I'm saying, y'all.
You know what I'm.
Saying, y'all.
You know what I'm saying.
We all working, you know what I'm saying. So it's
just time to just have fun with this ship.
Yeah. Yeah, I got a question, man, saving.
What was going on in the studio when you said
it ain't nothing to cut that bit off?
Like what happened? What the what's the vibes?
Interest?
Because that's what she do the same type of ship
bro all a lot, because then you fall.
I need to know the back for saying their life
all these songs, Bro, I sort of got all these songs.
Is something that happened, you know what I'm saying.
I don't think I got one song out there that
something ain't happened with that situation happen, you feel me?
But I was just some just some young niggas ship man.
I would what what the song cut all came out
two thirteen fourteen, so all about like twenty two twenty three? Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Just when I stayed with
my manager, Uh, we was on thrown roll.
He had a big air crib and ship.
So you know, I had a little I had my
own room and I had the studio room, and ship sold.
Just one of the day.
You know what I'm saying, another studio day. I had
met this little freak that weekend in the club.
Yo. She said, you know what I'm saying, what you
show on the weekend.
I told her I was on the weekend and the
studio and ship everybody about them.
So, you know what I'm saying. As young they get,
we know how he was. As young, they gonna.
Got to get some play. You know what I'm saying, loaded,
getting drunk, get every thing. You know what I'm saying,
You're gonna set the viright, absolutely, So I'm turned waiting
for it. You know what I'm saying, She to my
she on the way I got the line of Maritas.
I went the gas station.
Across the street. No, you don't freaking County Young was
the flavor.
It was the dreen ones one here they want.
Checks out though this before the flavors came out. When
I dropped the song that when they dropped the flavors.
Yeah, that's that's when the strawberry strawberry strawberry drop.
They got a little work better that or the court
orders on a lot of on the feet.
Said the cold Waters, I just have one for the
first time the other day.
The co water. Don't get no hangover that a lot
of maria. You're risking at all? They mix nothing with that. Yeah, yeah,
for sure.
As they were like the four local about to say
four logos our ship too.
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Yeah, man, long story short man.
I had already got down drunk to the line of
ready to getting ready for the virgin Know what I'm saying.
I had a little hend Some of them vibed out
waiting for adl like so when she comes, is up.
You know what I'm saying, rescript So she cab me?
Does she never pull it up?
She never pulled up.
I'm still in the studio. I'm still having a poldo
full of beats. Yeah, I pull a little wheeler fool.
It ain't nothing to cut that bitch out. I just
kept repeating that ship.
I'm mad.
I'm slipped man. Oh god man, man, I ain't trying
it too cool for the ship.
I was slip.
Hey.
You know, I was like, god damn, a big capy.
So I wanted to my it ain't nothing, you know,
I'm like this ship kind of I'm feeling like it.
You know what I'm saying.
Whatever recording, if I'm feeling it, and I'm like, oh,
this ship actually making me feel something, you know what
I'm saying.
And I just kept going and I played it for
my uh I think it was one of my partners.
He was like, what the fuck is this?
And when I every time I play something, somebody didn't
wanted my my like key factor. But I'm doing music,
I might say we just chopping up. I might let
the song play in the background. I might just play,
you know what I'm saying, just a slick ship, just
to catch a reaction. If I get that reaction, I'm
looking for already.
That's how I know that's the one. Okay, So cut
her off, sent you through there.
Tend me through there, shout out there. Man, she got
me paid?
Do it again?
Know if somebody capped me down?
For sure?
Does she know that was burling bro So, I don't know,
I just said in the interviews, but honestly, Brack and
I swear to god, I don't know who the girl was.
I don't known. I do not if she would walk
by me today who she was?
He said, you ain't getting knowe of these worlds, don't you, bladed?
So did you hit her like ship? Where you're at
where you're still coming now.
I ain't want the type niggas ain't gonna I ain't
gonna just flood your life.
It is over, is well, I'm saying, when did you
know she wasn't pull it up?
Which was red like forty five minute past.
Oh yeah, she pulling up. I'm really kicking in.
That one.
I was like, Okay, she she playing? She playing like
the last time I.
Talked to it, be here, dpu get wicked, man, what's so?
He said?
That's the song that guys, you know what I'm saying, cracking?
What was that first purchase? Like that first crazy? All right,
I got it now, dude, I always wanted to do.
Yeah.
To be honest, brian't really blow my hit when I
when I got it on bro smart man, you know
what I'm saying.
But I fucked the money up, and don't get the twist.
I fucked it up. I fucked it out.
I think the biggest purchase I made was my Sprinter.
So I wanted all my guys going on the road
and ship and and cribs in l A sixteen.
Dollars a month. Rent. You know I was sucking it up.
That's that's how fucking it up. I wasn't like just
you know, I buy clothes, you know what I'm saying.
I got a Porsche and ship, like you know ship
that was on my gage board and ship at the time.
But I ain't really just fucked my bag up. I
think just life expense is kind of like start hitting
that motherfucker. What so you was you was signed yeah,
ten of scupe Okay, Sunny hen Scope. I went Indepenion
in twenty twenty two.
So that was after the song came out and you
got some trash or you signed before cut off and
uh it was money Baby first. Money Baby was the
four cutter off. Yeah no, actually it was do It
with Michael Yeah that ship right, Yeah, that was in Atlanta, boys,
I dropped the honey Baby.
I was. I was catching traction in the city. Like
that's when the labels got you, you know what I'm saying.
But I already had cut off, So I leaked cut
Off and then it went up, but the label was
already trying to sign me. So that's how I ended
up being like a in the school situation, because you know,
they gonna it was the best label in the game
at the time, they still wanted the top labels.
Yeah, what's I want to ask, Like, let's get some game.
But what's the difference between your opinion between you staying
independent and signed into a label when you first starting out?
When you first starting out? Yeah, should you lot get
the bag and bet on yourself? Shit, that's what you
gotta do with everything for real.
But I feel like everybody's situation kind of different, bro,
because when I first got signed and we all start independent.
But when I first got signed, yeah, that was that
was life to me, you know what I'm saying. Because
I wanted to sign and sculpe my whole career. You
feel me so, But when I got signed, you know
what I'm saying, you go through the tried and tipulations
of it.
You know what I'm saying.
Of course I got I got faged from it, I
got money from it. But then I got stuck in
a situation that wouldn't working for me, you know what
I'm saying the long run. So when I find a
way independent, I feel like my whole life changed. I
got everything, you know what I'm saying, My business was,
so I.
Can't really People ask me this all the time, like
do what would work for you. You know what I'm saying.
You in a contract with a major, our majors, ain't gonna,
ain't gonna, ain't gonna suck your You know what I'm saying.
If you know your if you know your your agreements
and your term. So I signed young, bro. You know
what I'm saying. And I ain't no ship. I just
wanted some money. I just want to be in the
studio and get drunk.
You know what I'm saying. How much I can say
on it now? You keep anything just like this, motherfucker
be to your.
Uncok Okay, cool, you know what I'm saying. Fucking roles
and ship like that's the only.
Thing I wanted to do. That's real. You know that's
how this came about.
Let me ask you this because you said you bought
a sprinter where all your guys can travel with you.
As you've gotten older, it is your aunthor IgE still.
That big shure. It's all right. I remember that.
I think I remember that.
Just start calling you start yea, and that started causing
life started having. You know what I'm saying, Friendship ain't
friendship no more like man, it's a lot of coming
with that boy.
That shit started costing you a hotel room and what ship?
Let me go and get this I'm.
Trying to tell you, like security camera, man, DJ, that's
all I need.
I mean, when y'all realize that's too much though, Like when.
You see that check and the boys come in Shi
and thin you see you see the account go down
a little further than.
Value to you know what I mean, Cause he like
to be real. I don't know for me, but like
you bought a big house up. You got the house
in LA for sixteen thousand a month because your guys
gonna be with you mee, so you like they having
a good ass time. Ma, ship my check keep going down.
They ain't worry about ship. They laid on the cheat
and ship now for really you start looking like fuck
that light bus going off.
He's like you work with other people at that point
after the Jordan and this ship don't last over us.
You know what I'm saying.
It's the fact, but you don't know that during that time,
you're just trying to live because she fun this type
of life, your whole life. When you get in and
you just like fuck it. But then you're like hold
on did you.
Have a mama where ship slowed all the way?
Yeah?
Yeah, I had had one of the moments I was
in I was living in Alfareddo in another big as house,
doing the same ship.
I was doing what you know what, saying, I didn't
learn my lesson, you know what I'm saying.
And my mama was helping with the management, doing my
finance at one point, and she, you know what I'm saying,
hit me with the reality check, like you keep this
ship up, You're gonna be in trouble for sure. That
when I just tightened up. We had two bank accounts.
I told her the money that I had in this account,
make sure the bills paid.
I'm gonna take this account and do what I gotta do.
And I did what I had to. Dot the this
ship back up. You know what I'm saying.
I'm just back, Yes, sir, it's back in action game.
Shout the money back like you said. I'm a car dude,
so I gotta ask what portion would you grab?
Uh? Pannamara Pedomara had that ship on my business board
for a long time.
So I just bought this in cash too. I was
liked thinking like brou If when I was a nine
to eleven. Yeah, I had that on the vision board.
M hm, almost them call nigga here man, what's it call? Well,
little man, living little tea.
So I wanted to ask with the streaming there obviously
the way the things in music is pushed out now,
is it easier to make music or is it harder
to make music?
No, it's easy to make music. It's probably the easiest
ever been in music history right now. But is it
easy to make money in music?
No?
You know what I'm saying.
I don't know if y'all know too much about like
the streaming business, but just you know what I'm saying,
just how to royalty rates and the percentage.
Artists get on their own records? It just which is
depends on the dollar. Huh, That's what I'm saying. What
how many strange do you have to give for us
to get down? They streams?
I want to say Apple, I don't want to get
it wrong either. Apple Spotify million strains equal four thousand dollars.
So for a million people listen to your music, you know,
to get four thousand dollars. Imagine a million people listen
to music and get your dollar, you a millionaire. Yeah,
so fact, you know what I'm saying, So that the
math don't really be math.
And so if you if you're a new.
Artist in the game trying to you know, make some money,
it's gonna take you longer because nobody know you. So
they're not listening unless you're going hand in hand direct
consumers saying hey, this is ten dollars is ten dollars,
and you making your money to the right there, so
or you got to be established, you know what I'm saying,
Like a torn you gotta be a torn artist.
You gotta you know what I'm saying.
You gotta sell tickets and people got to like, yeah
hard tickets and people got like your music.
You gotta have it like just like.
One song, because I know, like you drop an album,
so it's like four thousand dollars for one song. Like
if you listen to one song a million times.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so they can add up.
Yeah, so that's you know, million strings on ten songs. Yeah,
be here. The question just ain't a lot of money.
Oh man, it's a lot of money.
Yeah, I say that.
You got the same numbers like that a podcast, oh yeah,
but on YouTube it's a little bit better.
Just it's all about time.
And I would say for YouTube because if you catch
it at the right stride, like say somebody sharp, Yeah,
well you catch a straw like that. Yeah, the ads
and the revelue that that price goes facts, you and
everybody our worithm. You superseded every fact, fact tracks be
here to asked a million dollar question is like what's
the cost of streaming?
It's like they made the ship up. I said, it
was the crazy part.
The.
Fake ass they just put together and we got there
and got to buy it.
But that's that's tough, especially as a rapper. I'll be
on tour Nigga every.
Day is as an artist though, you know what I'm saying,
I'll be talking. I'll be telling you these niggas this
all the time, the interviews, Learn your business. You know
what I'm saying. So many it's so many ways to
get money in the industry. You know what I'm saying,
Muse the industry. Yeah, it's it's it's multiple income strains
from like YouTube, like so many platforms that you can
pull the money from. And it's not just streaming, you
know what I'm saying. So our artists understand. Just get
your business together and you can leverage. Get your credit
shit together, go get along. You know what I'm saying,
you really want to. It's ways around to get money
if you tighten up your business, if you just out
here just just doing bullsh which we all did.
I did. I'm a bit the mud. But when I
tightened up, the money tightened up too.
That's interesting. I've seen somebody talking. I forgot what was
but shouted and they was just like.
The independent artists now look like the wealthy artists compared
to the people that saw because they have so much control.
They're doing hand to head sales.
They might sell twenty thousand copies of the CD, but
that's direction sooner a different story.
Yeah, Larussell just pour something like that, you know what
I'm saying.
Like he made what a hundred some thousand on it?
He did something.
I ain't really pay it. I seen it like a
little clip of it, but he did. He independent as
a motherfucker. Not he row Nation, but that ship.
Possibly if you give you in the backyard with that,
you feel me.
If you got a fan base, bro, you're talking to
your people and if they really fuck with you, they're
gonna they gonna they're.
Gonna stand with turning on the market too. Yeah, put
on the markets you from s some goddamn you so
for sure.
But I'm saying, if you and Cali you THEMN there, Yeah,
twelve game. But if you and Cali you.
Don't gotta come all the way over here, you know,
napping ship where we are, you can fuck the whole
state up, exactly.
Bro, mal box money, Bro. All the people to Proud
to Play campaign that was there early on, that was very,
very flourishing.
What's some stuff that you do to stay relevant to
keep you you know what I mean in the mix?
Do you use social media or do.
You pop out? Okay, you know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying. For a long time, I was
behind the scene, Bro, I was really.
Just a studio rap. I'm still a studio rat.
But yeah, I ain't give a damn by the other
side of the business, like the fame side, as you
wanted to get paid, do my ship, you know what
I'm saying. But as far as to stay relevant, you know, PR,
I like learn the business, like have my PR. Make
make sure I'm that pairs fashion Week, make sure the
Grammy's Bill. You know all these you know f one,
all this ship that everybody do. You know what I'm saying,
you pop out?
You know what I'm saying.
Because I'm gonna always do my ship like you know
home Base. I'm gonna make sure I'm working and my ship.
I'm giving that product out.
You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna do my part.
But now the other parties like, all right, let me
get in front of me. Turn you up. You know
what I'm saying exactly. You know what I'm saying. I
was against a lot of this ship for a long time.
Bro.
We know I was against Are you why?
Why why are you?
Bro?
We do decent Wetki.
Sing?
He said, what why you was against it? Bro? Like
cub bro like, I don't know.
It was just.
Anxiety bad Brokay.
You know what I'm saying.
It like I'm scary, shad. You're like, I'm a private nigga.
You know what I'm saying. The nigga might ask the
wrong question. I might God damn say like for example,
I just did just the boy. I'm on six shots.
You know what I'm saying. What I'm on a six shot?
When when they say it was dropping.
I was like, damn, what the fuck did I say
in the interview? You know what I'm saying?
It like they'd be like, ash, you know what I'm saying.
We get from behind these cameras doing you feel me
a lot of supposed to be doing. Goofy ass ship.
I ain't no goofy nigga. But you know what I'm saying.
You might slip up and say some shit you ain't
posted to one time.
But so that's why I really stayed away. Fro ship. Yeah,
for sure, we off six shots on this motherfucker. It'd
be laughing. We might be what I said.
Yeah, by the way, that's when we first started. Yeah
that ship ever gets released or anything.
It was good noise you kept.
It would turned, No, it was turned. I know you
don't even have video.
Yeah, gets straight all yeah ship. Then you go about
like picking your cities like when you planning your tour. Uh,
the data in the back end, Okay, I don't want
the fans in.
You're real strategic, you know what i'maying, not really bushing around,
just popping up and a random ass citats thinking it's
gonna come see me knowing exactly where they at.
Have you ever just chose one just like man, let
me add this just to see and ended up being
better than you expected. Like a city.
Yeah yeah, my agent, my agent has you know what
I'm saying, Say I announce the tour and we ain't
got a certain city on the on the on the
line up and people in the comments going crazy, and
you'd be like, man, we got to add.
This city and we added in it be some be
some fun ship.
We altays talk about the streaming era of music, But
now having the information that you that I had before,
does that kind of help with something? Yeah?
Yeah, he yet, that's all I do.
I'm raph a nerve when it come to that ship. Now, yeah,
you know what I'm saying, when it comes to the
back end of daya, all the emails, phone numbers, like
I don't play around with that, like that's like our
main business model when that's the reason why my ship.
So you know what I'm saying. Tight now pause, that's
that's yeah.
He locked that.
He locked it.
Like, man, what's the artist that you ain't worked for
each other?
That you you know what I mean? What with uh
you know that question right there?
Bro, I'm at the point my at my stage in
my career, I don't even be chasing that ship no more.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Niggas wanted to rock with me. They gonna rock with me,
you know what I'm saying. I'm a type of artist
now like when I was a young nigga, I always
try to like reach out to them, the niggas that
was in front of me going crazy, and some of
them fucked with me, some of them didn't, And that
shit bothered me for a little while.
You know.
You know what I'm saying.
We all got our itist that we look up to
it like damn, I can't wait.
To get on like fun with this nick and getting
studio do a song with this nigg blah blah, and
this shit don't happen. So I kind of like change
my mind, I said, when it came to this shit,
I'm like, Okay, cool, I'm gonna be the the influence
in the in the young o g to the to
the new niggas, and I'm gonna set away for the
for the young niggas, you know what I'm saying, and
be the one if I get on your song, they stamped,
you know, what I'm saying, they gonna You know what
I'm saying, it's the one, or even if I don't
get on the song, if I sing with it, you
know what I'm saying, Just that, just that I'm the
one you need, like I could for real or somebody.
You know what I'm saying, Nigga, that is just influential.
You're like, okay, cool, that's the approach, y'all.
You know what I'm saying. Who listen to other people's
music like up and Coming and he'd be like, oh
damn me holler at him. Yeah, not everybody. Ship.
Everybody ain't jamming like that, but a lot of niggas
be jamming, you know what I'm saying. But I don't
try to get too indulged in folks. I like the
only reason I really tune into a lot of people's
shit because I be so locked you in on my
ship and I be I got to hear somebody else shit.
You know what I'm saying.
Because I come from like the writing camps like uh
a kon writing camps in Florida with niggas like Lucky
Day before he was Lucky Day and agon a whole
bunch of you know what I'm saying, Verse Simmons and
niggas like that as foolish, you know what I'm saying.
So I like to hear other artists so I can
make sure i'm in in my back.
I ask, how is that feeling?
Now?
Obviously you know can put an industry slidify yourself.
Now, you got people who come to you for a
certain sound and want that certain vibe, a certain steady Yeah,
what's that feeling like? You know what I'm saying That
you catered to that role for a lot of people,
like you said being og for some people thin.
Line with that one, Okay, a lot of them like
steal soft respect.
Oh lord, just a way.
So these days are real picky of who I let
in my creative mix, you know what I'm saying, Because
a lot of niggas that came around and just pieces
of a nigga and just putting on their ship like
it was theirs.
You know what I'm saying, that's ship I don't like.
But if you're coming around and you generally genuinely want
to work and we creating all, you know what I'm saying,
off each other energy, I'm cool with that.
And I don't mind.
I'm an artist, but I love making music. I love
just hearing new ship. You know what I'm saying. I
just started producing three years ago. I make all my
beats now.
You know what I'm saying. The shit I be making,
You know what I'm saying.
Like my next album produced by me fully So it's
like I just like being around creative shit, but not
niggashould just come around you with the wrong intentions, you
know what I'm saying.
Yeah, what's one solid money some one song that you
had or you could have had that you're supposed to
be on?
He said, what niggas great? They said, what's one stag
you had could have had or what was supposed to
be on that you I regret I got. I messed
up on you said a song I had that?
What you mean that you passed on?
Like a Beamer song or so he could have been
a part of you, Like damn, I wish I would
do that.
In this ship, old though, I'll put you on Trapporter
go Short to Go? Are you boys?
I was?
I was in the house suspends in them that day
and they was recorded. How there was recording I had
once the crib that shows that showed that was that
was that was hard that Yeah, I remember that. Yeah,
they used to get the girls going as the mother Yes,
I was playing had nothing going at that time.
You would have toured off that the hell I blow
that one.
But ship that that kind of mind first, bro, you
know what I'm saying, other ship, I don't care.
Niggas don't get damn by that. You're look clear, first,
you're writing for other people like other big this or
you just nah. I used to I used to, I
put that, I put that ship down that It makes sense.
Like I keep telling everybody, if I ain't in the
studio with Rihanna, Beyonce with them or somebody, I'm not
doing the past.
You my song. You passed that, nigga. You passed that
nigga didn't see. I always wondered what in the process
of like, like if you wrote a whole song for
the motherfucker, hows.
It go with you getting depend on the artist though,
Like you write a song for upcoming artists, you ain't
really gonna get paid like that unless the song blow
up and be number one on you know what I'm saying.
Hot hot, But so you get your money on the
back end from that.
Yeah, you know if it's streng and I remember I
told y'all it'sion, so million strings. Got to split that
between five niggas and management and the lawyers and Ship.
You're gonna sucking around get one hundred dollars writing a song.
She ain't making up.
You know what I'm saying, Dad out have a songwriters.
You know what I'm saying. I wish somebody would put
something in place to change that. But that shit ain't
don't look good, Damn man, that's filthy to write a
song and the motherfuckersing you.
Man, it's like splatching on Ti Tark that little fucking
bugo stories out there like that.
Right now, I'll be seeing Ship all the time on
the internet. See, y'all need to have just a bad
This cost one hundred thousand. You want this if you
if you popping enough, you can charge and it got
out the gate like you can get your You were
in the top songwriters in the game.
Niggas know that this is gonna be hit, So I
same bucket for sure. What I'm saying. That's so you
gotta you gotta price on them beats. You can produce
the whole thing.
I ain't putting no price on them bitches yet I
might need to go, don't trip, I will look, I'm
just making it for me for real. That being linking
by it and saying I got something. You know, say,
I shoot, y'all niggas beats, I ain't ship you know
what I'm saying.
Okay, I can't wait. Somebody go up on one of
my beats around the place. Definitely going I do that.
I don't want to charge, y'all.
I'm tired and whoever signed y'all okay label getting charged?
There is we love good three sixty let'st's figure it out. Hell,
try to put them on.
Fuck in the seven twenty years, you're still your artist.
Yeah, that's one of my artists here right. Yeah, we
got rid of him. He didn't meet this quarter. He
did a tour, he was in the rig. He did
a ten city tour and ten people showed up. A
person say that's my new artists over there over there.
He kills you know what I'm saying. I said, I
want to be singer man at the Tappinions beat for Yeah.
And how we found out. We did a live show.
We was on black effects. God I said, black don't
get feel talk about me here. We did a live
show with Nave Grey bitchhout to Black Effects saying, he said,
y'all number one a Black Effects nigga.
Wen't.
I was like.
When you weressigned to the label, did you after have
to do some ship that they just sprung on you? Like, man,
pull up, you gotta do this? Didn't watch the funck y'all.
Let me know.
There's a lot of ship.
Not what you mean, like do something like interviews and
ship interviews like yeah, like I used to hang on lie.
I don't know if I said my fucking I don't
even I used to hate going to New York do
press because that was like my first time going New York.
And the time I went to New York, it was
like a a you and like five interview interviews. I
never really got to.
Experience that ship, and that ship was like nah, you
know what I'm saying. But as far as like I
did what I wanted, bro, you know what I'm saying,
it wasn't no control. I had created control of my songs.
Everything I heard, you know what I'm saying. It was
all us wild out, So it wasn't really know.
It was just a business. But I was young, so
I understand the business because they were just doing what
the hell they they supposed to do with the ship.
For sure, for sure, I know you be growing. Man.
What's you do with your free time?
Man? Free time? Ship? Hawks, game gun range? Yeah, go hoop?
Still you know what I'm saying.
Are you still in the wreck with it?
Yeah? La fittish type ship? Oh, la fitish, don't hype
it up like it's really going crazy.
I'm saying, you really like basketball because I don't hol
ouside wor every day. You know what I'm saying.
I make sure I stay in the gym. You know
what I'm saying, keep my ship together.
But as far as Nigga tried your la finish it. No,
I get busy, man, I still got some shit going on.
You didn't get the abl man. Nah, I'm making a
call for you, bro. Ship like that, like, you know
what I'm saying, I love that ship. Yeah, I'm not
trying to go.
To the league.
Brother, he's taking this.
Right now.
Like I'm like, dog, the niggas ain't gonna call you.
Thout's not gonna call you. But I respect the hustle.
Man, I respect that ship that I'm sent, but like,
I'm not trying to just go in the league and
twist my ship up, fuck my knee up, and now
I can't beform and do my job and ship.
I'm not with that. I'm smarter with this ship, for sure.
What's some game you gotta for like a younger artist
trying to come up in the game, Man, get your lawyer.
That's the good first. Yeah, get your lawyer, learn your business.
Keep you a creative team around to keep you some
genuine folks around because you're gonna you're gonna it's gonna
get tricky.
Stay in that studio. If you love this ship, stay
in that studio. That's really you know what I'm saying.
One hit changed your life, man, One hit changed my life,
and I was mad at a bit chamber life.
You know what I'm saying.
Like another advice, you know what I'm saying, The emotions real, nigga,
Tap in nigga, marina or not tap in with the
emotions nigga, you might get rich.
No, for sure. How many hours do you spend in
the studio? It depends, bro.
I ain't gonna lie like and that shit be really
fucking with my head sometimes because like like five, I
ain't get say four five three four years ago, I
feel like I was in the studio more. Now, I
feel like I'll be going to the studio when I
feel something instead of just being in there just being
that mother forul Like, I try to be as intentional
as I can when it come to making music because
back in the day, you know what I'm saying, studio
rat shit. You in that bit from morning to four
five in the more, you know what I'm saying, like
more in the morning type shit. So I don't know,
it's just whatever. I you know what I'm saying. When
I do go in there, I know I'm going in
there with something. Now I know I'm gonna hit.
Show for show you what I'm saying.
Like you said how you used to put up to
the studio back when you first started. You still up
the same way, like maybe you less people there do
lo now s you producing and make it.
So Yeah, majority of my ship I record at the
crib by myself. The biggest songs I recorded by myself,
like probably like ninety percent of the motherfuckers. Oh damn,
Like what's on your mind? Ice cold mail by myself.
So that was my That's how it was.
That was my workflow for a long time because I
ain't want my pint to hear me singing. I want
to be singing with Roman full of niggas and ship like.
You know what I'm saying, that ship uncomfortable.
Yeah, room for of the niggas singing Maryland.
Feeling that ship. Nah, I ain't with that over in
your mind, you know what I'm saying.
Boy, I gotta be by myself with them motherfuckers.
How you go upuy naming the song is Marylyn Moroe.
I was crazy.
That's what that name?
Man.
I ain't say Maryland old one time. I think I
made that song by the girl. They work their magic.
I think she's still working, man. Ship to tell you
probably ta probably knowing man stopped one of us. Know,
I know for a fact, ship love man. But what
you say, he's one of the.
But now.
It was.
It really was a strict clubs song by her. I
just wanted to like a a face that year.
I don't know, I really don't remember how.
I think I was just on Google and her she
popped up or something, and I just like, damn, my
name to be mailing bro because it rolled out the tongue.
Because she was a demon back you feel me? Yeah,
And that played a role too.
I don't know why I told mail the Morodo like,
I don't know.
For sure.
Hey man, shout to this worst like you said, boy
the real boy, you feel me? If you know I do,
it might get you paid.
I was liking her at that time too.
I'm like, how to fun fast forward.
I'm like, but that's who I made the song about.
You was liking her, not liking her, about to go
with her. But he ain't saying, you know, you be
in the club that we vied up? What's her name?
You know what I'm saying. I must have forgot too
many city too, strippers do that?
Do it to you?
What's your real name? You know what I'm saying, stripping name?
I told stripping name, what's your name? At a few
jobs and trying to Hey, that ship different. If y'all
in town, If y'all in town, Monday, y'all here, Monday,
y'all a here, Monday.
I told you I'm having a party Monday. Man birthday, Monday.
Turn floke city man, flow city Man.
Hey, shitty man.
Monday. Man, Yeah, we come my mother.
I really need you. Man, Oh, mann't.
Gonna be invoved now I see myselves. I tell us,
tell us how you feel about the goddamn Hawks? Boy?
Loving this ship?
Damn love it. You know what I'm saying.
Hawks and five Hawks and five man bout to spike
the Knicks tonight.
Damn. I don't want this ship to come out here.
We're just coming out today.
Get on your.
Like you all that crazy? But now you know what
I'm saying. We try to catch it up.
Man. You know the city tight, ain't we ain't think
you see that go co go crazy? But yeah he
was crazy.
Man, I see your a They call your property. They
said nobody saw the vision before Jeff did.
Are you saying it?
I feel it.
It's cool he did. I ain't gonna while he did.
But I think we'll. Like I asked you before, when
trade got traded, we thought you all was like it
was wicked them trying to get the number one pick.
For real.
We don't get there anywhere. I mean yeah, but I'm
just saying it was looking like a rebuild session for sure.
Sure it's looking good as long as everybody stay healthy.
I thought that was gonna sign and then get up
out of here on some ship like that.
Now he's gonna be here for a couple more years
here to sign.
Hey, what's that environment like in the arena when you're
in that motherfucker bro this ship.
Finally, I ain't gonna lie.
I got season course, I ticket, but I swear my
sister be selling eighty percent of my tickets.
Cut take out on God.
Now I'll be gone or just like she didn't it's
the game, dad, like.
Ye saying, look saying, But now I'm like, okay, cool,
sign me up.
I'm there.
When isn't you okay? When'd you starting taking your ticket?
Is going to the game, but I've been going to
I didn't have the C ticket for like three four
year bro, you know what I'm saying.
But just like.
It was a lot, we had a little rough patch,
you know what I'm saying.
So basically take last week. You know what I'm saying, i'd.
Been I'd have been a couple of games this year
for sure.
Trade treading was all right.
Trade that was cool. It was we kept getting traded.
It was like he kept you, hey, man.
She's still lip. Come on, man, what the city. By
the time it's coming out, manf we still be Victoris
with the Hawks.
Man.
If not pray, we're gonna clip it up either way.
For shure man, well, we out here can't tell the
new projects. You got away, new project dropping real real.
Soon, right, Yeah, we got something dropping next month for
the city. Man, This is for the city. It's for everybody,
but it's for the city. Me and me and I
can't tell you, but yeah it's come.
I'll tap in on my dog for sure. We appreciate
you for sliding on another.
Wise, man shouts I Feld over there bootsmoke, but tapp
being ok camp. We need a chirp like the old days. Man,
bring the vos back for show. Shout out the stock X,
shout the hard rock. Bet we appreciate y'all. Will catchy'all
next time. Cluff twenty zero the volume
Mahm

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