The Bollywood Porn Scene That Made Jasmine Sherni Go Viral

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, Welcome back to Holly Randall. Unfeltered, my guest
<v Speaker 1>today is one of the fastest rising stars in the industry.
<v Speaker 1>She's a former Icy Unursed turned viral performer known for
<v Speaker 1>her breakout Seeing a Bollywood Tale.
<v Speaker 3>She worked with.
<v Speaker 1>Top studios, picked up major award nominations like Best New
<v Speaker 1>Starlet and Favorite Newcomer, and somehow she still finds time
<v Speaker 1>to be a major part of New Orleans. Marty Grass
<v Speaker 1>Welcome Jasmine Cherney.
<v Speaker 4>Hi, Holly, Hi everyone, thank you so much for having
<v Speaker 4>me that beautiful introduction.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I'm glad I don't have to say
<v Speaker 4>anything because you really said it all.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't know where to go from that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's always kind of nice to hear your whole
<v Speaker 1>career summed up in a couple of sentences. I know that,
<v Speaker 1>Like when that happens for me on the rare occasion
<v Speaker 1>I do podcast interviews on other shows.
<v Speaker 4>I've actually done a lot of things in my life,
<v Speaker 4>all the things. You know, you are very well known,
<v Speaker 4>very well accomplished from all these things.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well we can heard the first part of
<v Speaker 1>the podcast me.
<v Speaker 4>But you think got me and everything I've done, we should, Yes,
<v Speaker 4>we are here for you.
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about where you were raised in Louisiana
<v Speaker 1>as a mixed race kid, right, yes, So what was
<v Speaker 1>growing up in the South like for you and your family?
<v Speaker 4>I mean for me, it was it was tough. Honestly,
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in a small town. I was born
<v Speaker 4>in New Orleans. We lived like in the West Bank
<v Speaker 4>of New Orleans, which is I do have to like
<v Speaker 4>kind of tell people, and I Fallow of New Orleans.
<v Speaker 4>Because one of my friends was like, you know, people
<v Speaker 4>think they think you're from Gaza when you say that.
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm so sorry. I was like, is that why? People?
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
<v Speaker 4>Do you think I was like, oh my god, so yes,
<v Speaker 4>the West Bank of New Orleans. We moved when I
<v Speaker 4>was little, but we kept our house there. But my
<v Speaker 4>parents were just like they both wanted to live in
<v Speaker 4>a small country town. My mom wanted more land, and
<v Speaker 4>to be fair, we had a really big yard. You know,
<v Speaker 4>it took up like a quarter of the block. We
<v Speaker 4>lived on the corner. It went halfway down one street,
<v Speaker 4>halfway down another, lots of land. Did not realize how
<v Speaker 4>wealthy I was with space being little. But no one
<v Speaker 4>was like us, right, Like my mom was Jewish, my
<v Speaker 4>dad was Muslim, and no one looked like us. Everyone
<v Speaker 4>was either black or white, and it's just it was hard.
<v Speaker 3>Identity was weird.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't really understand why we were different, how we're different,
<v Speaker 4>and I definitely didn't understand that no one else's family
<v Speaker 4>was different until I got to school and I was like, oh,
<v Speaker 4>my mom explained it to us, like we were cats.
<v Speaker 3>Right, she was. You know when cats have kittens, there
<v Speaker 3>are different colors.
<v Speaker 4>Well, then you go to school and you realize that,
<v Speaker 4>like all the other kittens are and their parent cats
<v Speaker 4>are all the same color. So it didn't really make
<v Speaker 4>it like that's so weird because all the other cats
<v Speaker 4>and kittens look alike. Yeah, So that was It was tough,
<v Speaker 4>and I definitely didn't feel like I could be who
<v Speaker 4>I am today.
<v Speaker 3>Right, I was always weird.
<v Speaker 4>I said that I was kind of like from the
<v Speaker 4>island of misfit toys and kind of always feeling othered.
<v Speaker 4>I don't now that I'm in an industry where everyone,
<v Speaker 4>I think is kind of we're that island.
<v Speaker 3>We are the islands, Yeah, the island of.
<v Speaker 4>Misfit toys, and we're like, Hi, wow, look at this.
<v Speaker 4>This is so nice island of weirdos around me.
<v Speaker 3>Now, welcome home. So were you were you like teased
<v Speaker 3>a lot as a kid? I was teased a ton,
<v Speaker 3>I was.
<v Speaker 4>I have two siblings, and my oldest sibling actually has
<v Speaker 4>a different father, so she was mixed half black, and
<v Speaker 4>so I just lied to people and I told them
<v Speaker 4>that I was half black and half white.
<v Speaker 3>I now realized how bad that was. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>When I was a kid, I was just trying to
<v Speaker 4>fit in and it made sense because nobody else is
<v Speaker 4>anything different until I was like maybe in fourth grade,
<v Speaker 4>I want my teachers was trying to be very inclusive
<v Speaker 4>and she's like, well, Jasmine, I know your father is Muslim.
<v Speaker 3>What did y'all do during the Christmas break?
<v Speaker 4>And everyone like, gas, Jasmine's a Muslim. But not only
<v Speaker 4>was I Muslim, I was a secret Muslim.
<v Speaker 3>Those are the worst time.
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I got teased a lot, like every single
<v Speaker 4>day and it wasn't great.
<v Speaker 1>But so what was religion like in your household? Because
<v Speaker 1>I mean Jewish and Muslim, Like did you were you
<v Speaker 1>guys religious?
<v Speaker 3>Did you practice? We were supposed to be being.
<v Speaker 4>Raised Muslim, But I mean other than like a few
<v Speaker 4>basic rules and my dad telling me like I couldn't
<v Speaker 4>show my shoulders, I mean there were I mean there
<v Speaker 4>are generalizations, right like Muslim girls don't dance, Muslim girls
<v Speaker 4>don't wear this, they don't act this way, they don't
<v Speaker 4>do that. What will people say things like that like
<v Speaker 4>we didn't eat pork, we didn't you know, do certain things.
<v Speaker 4>But it wasn't like I was praying multiple times a day.
<v Speaker 4>We celebrated nearly every single holiday. You know, I think
<v Speaker 4>Christmas being just something that culturally here in America that
<v Speaker 4>you celebrate. Eventually, we celebrated that. And then later in
<v Speaker 4>life my mother was like, we're not doing Christmas anymore.
<v Speaker 4>We're celebrating Hanka. We're done with this. She even got
<v Speaker 4>rid of her Christmas tree, she got rid of Christmas tree,
<v Speaker 4>all the ornaments. She was like, I'm done with this.
<v Speaker 4>It's Hanukkah. She would celebrate per hum, she would like,
<v Speaker 4>she went all out in the end. You know, So
<v Speaker 4>religion was I don't know, it was kind of like
<v Speaker 4>a funny, weird thing again that like not not very
<v Speaker 4>similar to other households, you know that that blend that mashup.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure like I mean, you know, as you
<v Speaker 1>so clearly said, in Louisiana, like there is not a
<v Speaker 1>large Muslim population.
<v Speaker 3>There, not in small town Louisiana.
<v Speaker 4>There was in like the greater New Orleans area, and
<v Speaker 4>like so for like ad and things like that, we
<v Speaker 4>would sometimes go to those celebrations in the New Orleans area.
<v Speaker 3>But you know, my dad wasn't a doctor. We didn't
<v Speaker 3>have money. I was mixed.
<v Speaker 4>We didn't have like and again like the we didn't
<v Speaker 4>have money. We didn't have money for cultural clothes either, right,
<v Speaker 4>So me and my brother were very much the outsiders,
<v Speaker 4>and kids weren't nice to us.
<v Speaker 3>Right.
<v Speaker 4>So it was kind of like yet another place where
<v Speaker 4>I didn't fit in. And as I got older, I
<v Speaker 4>would very similarly go out to events and I still
<v Speaker 4>didn't see anyone who looked like me.
<v Speaker 3>And when I did see people who look like me.
<v Speaker 4>Or came for my culture, I didn't feel like I
<v Speaker 4>could be like, yeah, like I'm going to the rape,
<v Speaker 4>you want to come with me?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like you didn't fit in there either, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>very much so. Right, so you married young, very young,
<v Speaker 1>and divorced shortly after.
<v Speaker 3>What did tell us about that? And what did you
<v Speaker 3>learn through that experience? Wow?
<v Speaker 4>I think I learned so much. I feel like a
<v Speaker 4>lot of those lessons came afterwards. And one of the
<v Speaker 4>first lessons I kind of gifted myself with was giving
<v Speaker 4>myself autonomy over my own life and my own body again,
<v Speaker 4>because I felt like marrying young and having you know,
<v Speaker 4>kind of someone right there being like, oh, well, this
<v Speaker 4>is what you do for when you're in love with
<v Speaker 4>someone this is how you do this, and this is
<v Speaker 4>what pleasure is about, and not getting to learn that
<v Speaker 4>for myself. I really took that agency back and in
<v Speaker 4>a very like it was very much in the front
<v Speaker 4>in my mind type of way. I was like, you
<v Speaker 4>know what, I don't know if I want to be
<v Speaker 4>monogamous anymore.
<v Speaker 3>I could do a bad girl, you know, I'd go.
<v Speaker 4>On dates and be like, Hi, my name's Jasmine and
<v Speaker 4>I'm non monogamous and I like kink. But on the
<v Speaker 4>other end, I would I would go to classes, and
<v Speaker 4>I had a friend who would go to play parties
<v Speaker 4>and she kind of got me plugged into like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>if you want to go do these things, here's where
<v Speaker 4>you can maybe get educated and learn how to do
<v Speaker 4>that safely. So it definitely started me on this journey
<v Speaker 4>of where I am now of like king play parties,
<v Speaker 4>bur lesque, sex work.
<v Speaker 3>So right, Can I ask how young you were when
<v Speaker 3>you got married.
<v Speaker 4>I was nineteen when I got married, but I was
<v Speaker 4>fifteen when I got engaged.
<v Speaker 3>Wow.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And was this an arranged marriage or was this
<v Speaker 4>somebody that you just fell in love with?
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, fortunately, and unfortunately it was a love marriage.
<v Speaker 4>You know wow, yeah, wow, becaupose to you at fifteen?
<v Speaker 4>At fifteen, because what does a fifteen year old know?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me tell you.
<v Speaker 4>Fifteen year olds know exactly what they want to do
<v Speaker 4>in their life. And there's one thing a fifteen year
<v Speaker 4>old knows is that love tells you to abandon your dreams.
<v Speaker 3>Prince Charming will always go and rescue you. Mm hm.
<v Speaker 3>So so tell me about so. Okay, so you got divorced.
<v Speaker 1>You have this friend who's starting to introduce you to
<v Speaker 1>play parties, Like, what was your first experience dipping your
<v Speaker 1>toe into like a sexual world after you know, I'm
<v Speaker 1>assuming grew up in a very conservative household.
<v Speaker 3>I did. I did? It was.
<v Speaker 4>I think we love to say the world word empowering,
<v Speaker 4>and yes it was that, but it felt very electrifying, right.
<v Speaker 4>It was very much like, oh my god, this is
<v Speaker 4>so exciting nervous, but that excited nervousness of like, oh well,
<v Speaker 4>maybe I won't do anything tonight, but look at where
<v Speaker 4>I am. Look at this door I just opened, or
<v Speaker 4>like this box, this like really sexy hot Pandora's box,
<v Speaker 4>and wow, look there's that guy that I've been crushing
<v Speaker 4>on for like ten years and oh god, he's here.
<v Speaker 3>And I have sex with the guy that i'd been
<v Speaker 3>crushing on I.
<v Speaker 4>Don't know, you know, stuff like that, and just kind
<v Speaker 4>of getting to finally feel like I can own it
<v Speaker 4>in a way.
<v Speaker 1>Was a play party your first like experience in that world.
<v Speaker 3>In like kink and BDSM, I think it was. Yeah, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I was. I went to a play party. I got
<v Speaker 3>sick that night. I don't know, I think I got a.
<v Speaker 4>Stomach bug, and really quickly like it wasn't like I
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh I'm feeling bad. I was actually talking
<v Speaker 4>to that same guy that I mentioned, and we're waiting
<v Speaker 4>that we have like an icebreaker performance that starts and
<v Speaker 4>we're talking and all of a sudden, I'm like, in
<v Speaker 4>my mind my vombent and I look at him and
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, where's the bathroom.
<v Speaker 3>He's like it's around the corner into my cup. Oh no,
<v Speaker 3>I was so embarrassed. Oh no.
<v Speaker 4>So I just kind of sat outside by the pool.
<v Speaker 4>It was nice, it was fun.
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, so for people in our audience who've
<v Speaker 1>never been to a play party, which I think there's
<v Speaker 1>probably a lot that's hair and super people who may
<v Speaker 1>not even this might be the first time that they've
<v Speaker 1>heard of such a thing. Can you explain what a
<v Speaker 1>play party is and maybe what it looks like?
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, I would say one, every play party is
<v Speaker 4>going to be different, but in general, when you think
<v Speaker 4>of like a play party or a sex party, you're
<v Speaker 4>gonna again they're different. So this one, you it has
<v Speaker 4>a theme. There's that there was no outside clothes, no
<v Speaker 4>ordinary clothes. This one I think was like gods and
<v Speaker 4>goddesses and mythical creatures. They had a section with like
<v Speaker 4>a big royal like chair and a professional photographer to
<v Speaker 4>take your pictures or your solos or groups. And they had,
<v Speaker 4>like I said, icebreaker performance of a variety of acts.
<v Speaker 3>And these are like live sex acts, not all sex acts.
<v Speaker 4>Some of them were comedy, some of them were sex,
<v Speaker 4>some of them were or less that were stripping down.
<v Speaker 3>I think the comedy was really funny.
<v Speaker 4>I think that came on first, you know, yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>then sometimes like BDSM performances, but it kind of to
<v Speaker 4>warm everybody up to things and kind of they also
<v Speaker 4>have a little bit of talk of like, hey, this
<v Speaker 4>is what we expect and how do you behave because.
<v Speaker 1>There's got to be like consent involved in boundaries. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>everyone's got to understan be on the same page about that.
<v Speaker 3>Very much so.
<v Speaker 4>And there were I think three levels of this play party.
<v Speaker 4>First floor was open play. There was a bar, a pool,
<v Speaker 4>second floor were kind of more rooms and things like
<v Speaker 4>that that you could go off into. And the third
<v Speaker 4>floor was the dungeon where they had like a BDSM
<v Speaker 4>master if you.
<v Speaker 1>Will, Okay, yeah, sounds fun, sounds elaborate.
<v Speaker 3>A little pick your own adventure. You know.
<v Speaker 1>I've actually never been to one. I don't think is
<v Speaker 1>that something that you would like?
<v Speaker 3>No, there we go, well, look at that, look at that.
<v Speaker 3>You never have to.
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm actually I'm pretty boring. I'm in a monogamous
<v Speaker 1>relationship with my husband, and I like, clearly I have
<v Speaker 1>no problem with sex and like non monogamy and all
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But it's funny though when I
<v Speaker 1>I because I have ended up at swingers' parties and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that and other similar things. But when I
<v Speaker 1>don't have a camera in front of me, like separating
<v Speaker 1>me from the sex, yes, I actually get I feel
<v Speaker 1>very weird.
<v Speaker 3>That's super fait. It's super weird to me. It's like
<v Speaker 3>I need to have a purpose there.
<v Speaker 1>Like my purpose was always I'm directing, I'm shooting. I'm
<v Speaker 1>like trying to get that cumshot. But like if I'm
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there watching with my hands on my lip,
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know what to do with my self.
<v Speaker 3>You know what. That's so fair.
<v Speaker 4>I mean on camera and off camera sex for me
<v Speaker 4>feel very different. So you know, in a sense, I
<v Speaker 4>get it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about your movingto
<v Speaker 1>on camera sex. So how did you end up in
<v Speaker 1>the porn industry?
<v Speaker 4>So I like, well, where do you want to just
<v Speaker 4>trying this journey? How did I move from nursing into sex?
<v Speaker 4>Because you were an icy unise first, which is an
<v Speaker 4>intense job.
<v Speaker 3>My sisters and I see you nurse. Yeah, it is
<v Speaker 3>very and it is. It is intense. He used to
<v Speaker 3>come home and cry a lot. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sorry, that's not a sexy thing to say. Sorry,
<v Speaker 4>it's okay, we don't we don't have to be sexy.
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's like, yeah, I I mean that's got
<v Speaker 1>to really like toughen you up.
<v Speaker 3>It does, yeah, it does.
<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting to me too, that a lot of
<v Speaker 1>sex workers were either nurses before or become nurses later.
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's like a nurturing thing there. I
<v Speaker 1>think there is, you know, like a common thread.
<v Speaker 4>I believe that very much so because I've definitely seen yeah,
<v Speaker 4>both sides, people going into nursing and people coming out
<v Speaker 4>and into sex work. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I never I never wanted to be a nurse.
<v Speaker 4>And I knew that going into nursing slightly longer story
<v Speaker 4>about me and my ex, but just to get into it.
<v Speaker 4>I knew that I was going to get into nursing
<v Speaker 4>and eventually want to go do something else. And for
<v Speaker 4>a while I thought maybe I wanted to go and
<v Speaker 4>get my doctorate and become a nursing a caesiologist. And
<v Speaker 4>when that didn't work out, I was like, well, I
<v Speaker 4>don't know what I want to do. But I'd always
<v Speaker 4>kind of I had this calling. And while I was
<v Speaker 4>doing that, like and exploring, you know, I cank your more.
<v Speaker 3>Sexual side, you know, a little.
<v Speaker 4>But I did food blogging and then I from that
<v Speaker 4>got into lifestyle modeling and got connected with more creatives
<v Speaker 4>and had friends in burlesque and always kind of looked
<v Speaker 4>at that side and I was like, wow, I really
<v Speaker 4>wish I could do a little more, but didn't feel
<v Speaker 4>like I could because of like the ethics clause and
<v Speaker 4>like the nursing practice.
<v Speaker 3>Right you thought that you figured you lose your job,
<v Speaker 3>yeah right.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or have at least some kind of fines or
<v Speaker 4>things that would come to me if anyone reported that.
<v Speaker 4>So when push finally came to shove and I was
<v Speaker 4>miserable enough, I was like I got to get out
<v Speaker 4>of this. I left it all behind and I was like, well,
<v Speaker 4>what do I want to do? And I had a
<v Speaker 4>friend and she was like, well, you really like, you know,
<v Speaker 4>being on Instagram and modeling, why don't you try that?
<v Speaker 4>Like I've been watching you do this and you love it.
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's not a real job. It's not oh yeah yeah,
<v Speaker 3>look at me.
<v Speaker 4>Also, I didn't know anyone who actually did it right,
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>I guess I could try it.
<v Speaker 4>So I started a modeling page on Instagram and that
<v Speaker 4>quickly took off, and I had people who were like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>like is there can I see more of you? Like
<v Speaker 4>I there had a few of them are like hey,
<v Speaker 4>I would sponsor you whatever that meant. And so I
<v Speaker 4>was like, you know what, I think I can start
<v Speaker 4>it only fans let me, let me try that out.
<v Speaker 3>I'll dip my toe in that water.
<v Speaker 4>And that kind of really quickly started paying my bills
<v Speaker 4>and not even to say that I was making you know,
<v Speaker 4>millions or anything crazy, but I think it's still impressive
<v Speaker 4>that I was able to pay my bills with it,
<v Speaker 4>and it's.
<v Speaker 3>Like, hey, I enjoy this.
<v Speaker 4>And it was again there was a lot of like
<v Speaker 4>genuine connections, like I got to talk to people who
<v Speaker 4>are my fans. I would wake up and do like
<v Speaker 4>these really they're so silly now, but like I do
<v Speaker 4>these videos where I'm just.
<v Speaker 3>Like coming in my little robe and slip and drink
<v Speaker 3>my coffee and I message people and be like what
<v Speaker 3>is your intention for the day?
<v Speaker 4>My friend who was also and it was like, oh
<v Speaker 4>my god. My fans would never they be like, turn
<v Speaker 4>shut up and show me your butthole.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't know. Sometimes I just read
<v Speaker 3>poetry to them.
<v Speaker 1>But there's like there's that's a great thing about platforms,
<v Speaker 1>like only fans. There's all different kinds of people, Like
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely guys on there, and I'm sure you have
<v Speaker 1>this experience now that like they really want to talk
<v Speaker 1>and they want to talk about their lives. They want
<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on in my life and they
<v Speaker 1>care about those things. And then there are other guys
<v Speaker 1>who are like, just show me your.
<v Speaker 3>Buttthole and shut up. Just show me your butthole, and
<v Speaker 3>it's fair. And I do.
<v Speaker 4>I have those people too, love them, but I do
<v Speaker 4>still actually be poetry to them. Well, here's what can
<v Speaker 4>I say about a butthole? You're right, I should write
<v Speaker 4>a poem aboth holes should Thank you. You're coming up
<v Speaker 4>with great stuff. You're welcome. I'm just you've been on it,
<v Speaker 4>just the ideas you've been flowing. You have been on
<v Speaker 4>it ever since I walked through this door. But I
<v Speaker 4>feel like you're always on it. I can accolades.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah.
<v Speaker 4>From there, I was with someone and we were kind
<v Speaker 4>of in the process of breaking up, and I remember
<v Speaker 4>being like he was the only person I'd phoned with.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Oh my god, what am I gonna do?
<v Speaker 3>How am I gonna have tapes? Like?
<v Speaker 4>And then I was like, wait a second, I'm a
<v Speaker 4>hot girl, and I'm as people want to have sex
<v Speaker 4>with me. I was like, no, that would be whoa whoa.
<v Speaker 4>People won't have sex with me. Hot guys want to
<v Speaker 4>have sex with me. Hot girls want to have sex
<v Speaker 4>with me? Hey, let me yeah, let me hold that one.
<v Speaker 4>Would you like to work together? And so I got
<v Speaker 4>my first collab with someone. I came out to La
<v Speaker 4>I stayed with Sarah Arabic, and during that trip I
<v Speaker 4>was kind of in this point of like, yes, I
<v Speaker 4>was doing this collab, but I also wasn't sure. As
<v Speaker 4>I continued to blow up, do I want to go
<v Speaker 4>more mainstream modeling?
<v Speaker 3>Do I want to keep doing this? And I was like,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 4>What I do because I saw so many people being
<v Speaker 4>really authentic and living this life and loving it and
<v Speaker 4>being successful, and I was like, you know, I could
<v Speaker 4>go this other route and I could do be more mainstream,
<v Speaker 4>more clean, more sweet girl.
<v Speaker 3>I am I slut.
<v Speaker 4>And I love being a slut, and like I don't
<v Speaker 4>want to have to act like I'm.
<v Speaker 3>Not what I love that. Please, I love it.
<v Speaker 4>Please you know well, sluts are welcome here, thank you,
<v Speaker 4>we embrace you.
<v Speaker 3>So you know that's what I was doing. And it
<v Speaker 3>was like you know what I am going to do this?
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I remember this is even to the point
<v Speaker 4>where I didn't even show nudity on Twitter. And I
<v Speaker 4>finished my first clab because I told him. I was like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>I think our advertising's a little different, and I was leaving.
<v Speaker 3>He was like, okay, so I'll clip it up and
<v Speaker 3>I'll send you stuff for Twitter.
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I don't show nudity on Twitter,
<v Speaker 4>and like his whole face was like, how do you promote?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>And I remember when he sent me a clip, I
<v Speaker 4>was just like I started pacing. I paced around my
<v Speaker 4>house for like twenty minutes and I was like, Hey,
<v Speaker 4>it's not that I don't like the clip you sent me,
<v Speaker 4>It's just that I don't know because I've never done this.
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to and I was like, no, I
<v Speaker 3>want to.
<v Speaker 4>And I then made the decision that if I was
<v Speaker 4>ever approached to do something mainstream, that I would do it.
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, yeah, I'm going to do that.
<v Speaker 4>And I was like I'm sure, and like the next
<v Speaker 4>five years someone might ask me yeah, and lum behold.
<v Speaker 4>It took a few months.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I On that same trip, I met Marvin Love, who
<v Speaker 4>is my friend, my agent, a director, over dinner with
<v Speaker 4>Sarah Arabic, who I was staying with, and we realized
<v Speaker 4>that we were going to be traveling through Europe together
<v Speaker 4>and we while we were in Europe, he asked me
<v Speaker 4>if I would ever consider shooting for Brassers.
<v Speaker 3>And now I'm here.
<v Speaker 4>And you shooting for Brassers and I am shooting for
<v Speaker 4>brass So, so, how was that first scene with Brassers amazing?
<v Speaker 3>It was? So it was. It was obviously nerve wracking,
<v Speaker 3>but it was amazing.
<v Speaker 4>And one of the reasons being that, like I had
<v Speaker 4>one of someone who I was really close with there
<v Speaker 4>to direct me to hold my hand. Marvin from the
<v Speaker 4>very beginning was like sat me down before, like as
<v Speaker 4>soon as you talked to me, because he was like, Hey,
<v Speaker 4>this is what it would mean to shoot for mainstream.
<v Speaker 3>This is what you can expect. This is what the good,
<v Speaker 3>the pros, the cons.
<v Speaker 4>And then working with a company like Brawsers, they have
<v Speaker 4>like a phone came where they have like a video
<v Speaker 4>call right where they're like, these are all the things
<v Speaker 4>and the steps and the processes before you get to set.
<v Speaker 3>These are the people you should expect on set.
<v Speaker 4>This is who you should go to on set if
<v Speaker 4>anything were to happen. Hey, if this if you don't
<v Speaker 4>have a talent liaison, like here's a number for you
<v Speaker 4>to call immediately because there has to be someone on
<v Speaker 4>set for you. Yeah, so I felt very safe. I
<v Speaker 4>ran through my lines. I did know that it was
<v Speaker 4>going to be like a Bollywood and cultural scene. That
<v Speaker 4>was something he, like Marvin, had asked me, and I
<v Speaker 4>was like absolutely, you know, like this was stepping more
<v Speaker 4>into my cultural identity and feeling like I could belong
<v Speaker 4>in it, even though I was like this sluty, weird
<v Speaker 4>round girl, And I say weird in the best way
<v Speaker 4>of like, yeah, I am from the Islands and misfit
<v Speaker 4>toys And maybe you don't see a lot of brown
<v Speaker 4>kids at the raves, but you know what, I bet
<v Speaker 4>at every major rave, we're there, Yeah, all feeling alone
<v Speaker 4>and no one gets to tell us how we get
<v Speaker 4>to do this. So as long as I do things
<v Speaker 4>that feel good and right to me, I'm the only
<v Speaker 4>person that I have to wake up to in the morning.
<v Speaker 1>Were you worried at all about some sort of backlash
<v Speaker 1>from your culture for representing your culture in that way
<v Speaker 1>or were you like really proud to represent your culture
<v Speaker 1>in that like was there.
<v Speaker 3>Any give and taste? Yeah? Is there any like debate
<v Speaker 3>in your head about like I.
<v Speaker 4>Think anytime you do something like that. Anytime I do
<v Speaker 4>something like that, there's always, like I said, there's like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>I expect there will be some because people hold their
<v Speaker 4>culture so near and dear to them, right, And there
<v Speaker 4>have been some people, right, but they are very much
<v Speaker 4>the outliers. I will say that I was very much shocked,
<v Speaker 4>taken aback in tears about how much of a like
<v Speaker 4>opening arms reception it was, and how many people outpoured
<v Speaker 4>to me, how many people became fans of mine on
<v Speaker 4>my sites to message me to say they have never
<v Speaker 4>seen someone who looked like me do this ye, And
<v Speaker 4>I mean men, women, couples, just being like, just tons
<v Speaker 4>of people who were like I even had someone who's like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>I've never watched Born before, but I so many of
<v Speaker 4>my friends told me about your scene, and I just
<v Speaker 4>never thought I'd see someone like this. Yeah, and it
<v Speaker 4>felt so good and it felt affirming, like wow, this
<v Speaker 4>felt so good to shoot, it felt so right and
<v Speaker 4>now and this is why.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so it's like that kid who felt different
<v Speaker 1>than who felt like so a part of has now
<v Speaker 1>used that. It's like become your superpower, right that like
<v Speaker 1>you can represent people like you and people love you
<v Speaker 1>for that yes, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Do you know who Sonny Leoni is? Yes?
<v Speaker 4>I think we talked about this, Avanne, Yes, probably. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>you said you shot her first thing. I shot her
<v Speaker 4>very first glamour scene.
<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yeah. She had never had her hair and makeup
<v Speaker 3>done professionally before. She was just.
<v Speaker 1>Doing like I forget what, she was just doing amateur
<v Speaker 1>stuff at home with her with her ex at the time.
<v Speaker 4>And I remember she was so excited and we actually
<v Speaker 4>shot her in like that style you did, Yes, we did.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't see that. I looked up her stuff and
<v Speaker 3>I did not. Yeah, it's on.
<v Speaker 1>Sus dot net. Okay, i'll have I'll find it and
<v Speaker 1>I'll send it to you. But we shot it in
<v Speaker 1>that style. And then I just remember she was so
<v Speaker 1>excited that she went home with like her hair and
<v Speaker 1>makeup and like did a bunch of content at home
<v Speaker 1>because she'd like never had her hair makeup done.
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm like, I want to look this up. I
<v Speaker 3>was like, how can I recreate this? Let me recreate this?
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean I look back at it now and
<v Speaker 1>it was like, you know, that was still so early
<v Speaker 1>in my photography career. I mean, I look at it
<v Speaker 1>now and I'm like, oh, God, this is awful, like
<v Speaker 1>the crawl being imposing, like I still wasn't hadn't mastered
<v Speaker 1>my craft. But but yeah, I mean and now she's
<v Speaker 1>like she's I mean, it's funny what.
<v Speaker 3>Now right she does Bollywood now right? Yes?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And people talk about crossover porn stars all the time,
<v Speaker 1>but they don't ever think about her. And they're like, oh, well,
<v Speaker 1>Jenna Jameson, oh, Sasha Gray, And I'm like, the crossover
<v Speaker 1>porn star is Sonny Leoni. She is one of the
<v Speaker 1>most famous people in India.
<v Speaker 4>I was like, that's kind of crazy because when I
<v Speaker 4>think of crossover, she's like the one that comes to
<v Speaker 4>my mind.
<v Speaker 3>But maybe it's because so many people talk to me.
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, it's because you're in that you know, that's
<v Speaker 1>your culture. But like so many people, you know, Western, they.
<v Speaker 3>Don't even know who she is. And I'm like, she
<v Speaker 3>is the example.
<v Speaker 1>And not to mention the fact that she also won
<v Speaker 1>over the hearts, you know, of a culture that's not
<v Speaker 1>exactly like embracing you know, porn and sexuality, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and and she was able to like break that barrier
<v Speaker 1>and get through and people's she started. She became famous
<v Speaker 1>because she did like the Indian version of Real World
<v Speaker 1>or Big Brother.
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Big Brother. Okay, so she did
<v Speaker 3>reality TV.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and then people saw her on that and then
<v Speaker 4>they actually got to know her because she's a really
<v Speaker 4>sweet girl.
<v Speaker 3>And then they're like.
<v Speaker 4>Kind of crazy, how people think we're going to be
<v Speaker 4>mean or something.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think we'll bite.
<v Speaker 1>I know, they think like yeah and yeah, and then
<v Speaker 1>her just career just like took off from there, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's crazy because at the beginning, it was
<v Speaker 1>definitely like, oh, she was a born it'tar oh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>but now it's I feel it's just like she was,
<v Speaker 1>but it was like a Bollywood star and like her
<v Speaker 1>past doesn't really like come up as much.
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like from Afar. I haven't talked her
<v Speaker 3>in a while, but that's super fair. You know.
<v Speaker 4>Way before I ever considered doing sex work, while I
<v Speaker 4>was still doing nursing, I actually sent in an audition
<v Speaker 4>tape to do, you know, like Mindy Mindy Calleen. She
<v Speaker 4>did the TV show on netflixbe Yes. I actually sent
<v Speaker 4>because she put out a big casting call on like
<v Speaker 4>social media about it, like open and then like there's
<v Speaker 4>an interview where she's like, oh my god, I would
<v Speaker 4>never do that again.
<v Speaker 3>I got so many hits because she was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>who's South Asian and wants to do these parts? Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>And everyone was like me yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And I think back to that, I'm like, I wonder
<v Speaker 4>if Minnie kelling whatever cast read for anything now or
<v Speaker 4>which she was like, sorry, I can't do that.
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<v Speaker 1>more into detail with your first scene for browsers. So
<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about how much control you
<v Speaker 1>had over the scene. Did you have a lot of
<v Speaker 1>input in the wardrobe? Like how and who did you
<v Speaker 1>perform with?
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know. Those are all really good questions.
<v Speaker 3>It was so well. I'll start kind of backwards.
<v Speaker 4>My scene partner was Chris Diamond, which was absolutely insane.
<v Speaker 4>I knew that he was very well in dowed, but
<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize like how well en dowed until I
<v Speaker 4>like he got there and I remember like kissing him
<v Speaker 4>before the scene and like he put my hand on it.
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I was just like, oh my god,
<v Speaker 3>I reworried. I was very worried. I genuinely looked at
<v Speaker 3>him and I was like, I don't know if that's
<v Speaker 3>gonna fit.
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't think that's gonna go in there,
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, it'll go It's fine.
<v Speaker 3>I don't worry, baby, I got you, Like I've done
<v Speaker 3>this a few times. I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I remember after we felt like our first clip, like
<v Speaker 4>everyone on the side was like are you okay? Like,
<v Speaker 4>hey girl, you you just call nine one. Seems like
<v Speaker 4>you just got murdered. So that's where my scene partner was.
<v Speaker 4>But as far as how much control I had over
<v Speaker 4>the scene, I mean, I felt like it was very
<v Speaker 4>much a collaborative process. I got the script anything that
<v Speaker 4>I there was some small tweaks that I wanted to make.
<v Speaker 4>I had already given them kind of like my boundaries,
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think when it's brawsers, I don't feel
<v Speaker 4>like I have to worry about them going too far
<v Speaker 4>around my set of boundaries.
<v Speaker 3>They're very good about that. Yeah, No, they're amazing. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>So even the small tweaks and honestly, any script that
<v Speaker 4>I've gotten from them, if I'm like, hey, I don't
<v Speaker 4>feel comfortable with this, like they're like, hey, we can
<v Speaker 4>make that. We can change it however you want to
<v Speaker 4>make you feel comfortable. So as far as the storyline went,
<v Speaker 4>I was fine with it. When it came down to wardrobe,
<v Speaker 4>we actually we think he had gotten a different sorry.
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know if you've ever ordered a sorry
<v Speaker 4>or wait have you?
<v Speaker 3>I have not? Oh okay, so when you get a sorry,
<v Speaker 3>like a traditional short sorry, you're just looking.
<v Speaker 4>At kind of like nine feet of fabric. Yeah, and
<v Speaker 4>then a lot of the blouse has come unstitched. And
<v Speaker 4>at that time I didn't know how to drape like.
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know how to pleat and fold, which I
<v Speaker 4>do now I learned for that Evan.
<v Speaker 3>But I didn't know how to do that. We didn't
<v Speaker 3>have anyone to sew the thing together.
<v Speaker 4>So the day before we went, I got my Hanna done,
<v Speaker 4>and no, it had to be before the Hannah because
<v Speaker 4>there was no way I went shopping with hint on me.
<v Speaker 4>But we went to a local spot here in La
<v Speaker 4>and we picked out the wardrobe together. So wardrobe jewelry
<v Speaker 4>all got chosen with and buy me as it's really
<v Speaker 4>amazing and kind of like, okay, this is how we're
<v Speaker 4>and the lady in the shop was like, okay, this
<v Speaker 4>is how you're gonna put the butt or the scarf on,
<v Speaker 4>you know, So it was very much like hey, are
<v Speaker 4>you comfortable?
<v Speaker 3>Is this okay?
<v Speaker 4>They everyone on set was very respectful, so it was
<v Speaker 4>a really beautiful process in that way. Yeah, so the
<v Speaker 4>scene I mean performed incredibly well.
<v Speaker 3>It did.
<v Speaker 4>And was that a surprise to you? I think, especially
<v Speaker 4>since it was my first time? Right I When we wrapped,
<v Speaker 4>I remember the cameraman, Cody j looks at me and
<v Speaker 4>he was that was amazing.
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna look so good.
<v Speaker 4>And everyone was so like, oh my god, amazing. And
<v Speaker 4>in my mind, I was like, what if they're just
<v Speaker 4>lying to me? Right?
<v Speaker 3>Like what if they're only saying this because I'm Marvin's friend,
<v Speaker 3>you know.
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, but then you know, as one
<v Speaker 4>does after you leave, like it's kind of just quiet,
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh god, it's in my mind
<v Speaker 4>they were never going to put it out. It was
<v Speaker 4>never going to see the light of day. I was like,
<v Speaker 4>that's just going to be put in a closet somewhere.
<v Speaker 4>And it was horrible and bad and I'll.
<v Speaker 3>Never work again.
<v Speaker 4>And then I got a call from Marvin and he
<v Speaker 4>was like actually a FaceTime for Marvin even and he
<v Speaker 4>was basically in tears, and I was like, what happened?
<v Speaker 3>When I do I did something wrong and he's like,
<v Speaker 3>they love it. He's like, they absolutely.
<v Speaker 4>Love it, jazz when you did so well, And I
<v Speaker 4>was like really, he goes, yeah, they're gonna, They're gonna.
<v Speaker 4>He's like, this is They were like, hey, we think
<v Speaker 4>this is going to do numbers. And when it came out,
<v Speaker 4>it went off way harder than I ever thought it would,
<v Speaker 4>and I got so much more attention.
<v Speaker 3>I was just insane. Yeah in a really really good way.
<v Speaker 3>Dode your Only fans just like explode I got yes. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I was so overwhelmed.
<v Speaker 4>I remember so when I first started doing content, I
<v Speaker 4>was on my phone so much that I developed not
<v Speaker 4>carpal tunnel, but it's.
<v Speaker 3>The other tunnel. It goes in here. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>And then so it was happening again, like just trying
<v Speaker 4>to respond to everyone's tweets and Instagram and messages on
<v Speaker 4>my Only fans, and I was like, I was like,
<v Speaker 4>I need help, I need to So I had to
<v Speaker 4>go through and turn off like all my notifications and
<v Speaker 4>stuff away from it for a little while because I
<v Speaker 4>was just like, wow, this is a lot, and I'm
<v Speaker 4>so blessed, but wow, you can't keep up all at
<v Speaker 4>once like that.
<v Speaker 3>All at once.
<v Speaker 1>So, as a brown performer in the industry, do you
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're fetishized at all?
<v Speaker 3>I feel like.
<v Speaker 4>If you're anything that's not seen as culturally normal in
<v Speaker 4>the West, you will unfortunately land yourself in a fetish category,
<v Speaker 4>whether you want to or not. So I have to
<v Speaker 4>realize that no matter what I do, people will fetishize me.
<v Speaker 4>And to what extent do what do I do within
<v Speaker 4>that that feels okay to me?
<v Speaker 3>And how do I deal with that? Right?
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Hey, if I put on a sorry and
<v Speaker 4>you fetishize me, but what I'm actually doing is like
<v Speaker 4>a very normal and appropriate thing, and you want to
<v Speaker 4>twist to something else that's you. You know, I have
<v Speaker 4>nothing to do with what whatever someone's mind makes up
<v Speaker 4>with that.
<v Speaker 3>And It's like you can go either way, right.
<v Speaker 1>You could be representing like your culture and your people,
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like when that scene came out, you
<v Speaker 1>had so many people reach out to you and say,
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anyone like me and porn and that
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. So I guess you could look at
<v Speaker 1>it either way. But do you feel like I'm assuming
<v Speaker 1>like if you felt that all the scenes that you
<v Speaker 1>have done have been like respectful in that way.
<v Speaker 3>I do.
<v Speaker 4>I do, and I think that's what for me when
<v Speaker 4>it brings up like poticization, I'm like, people can take
<v Speaker 4>this and they can spend any way they work. I've
<v Speaker 4>seen so blood trust, I've seen the people on Reddit.
<v Speaker 4>I have seen what they the captions they put porn. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>but I mean, you know, who am I to yak
<v Speaker 4>someone's yum yeah, other than to say it's my image.
<v Speaker 3>But I mean like that people are going to do that.
<v Speaker 4>But if nothing else, I always try to remind people
<v Speaker 4>like I am not a monolith. I am not like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>I'm not the only you know, brown woman doing this.
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't the first brown woman doing this. I'm not
<v Speaker 4>the only one doing it now I will hopefully not
<v Speaker 4>be one of the last. Right, And there is It's
<v Speaker 4>kind of the whole kind of purpose and fire behind
<v Speaker 4>me is that there isn't one way to be brown.
<v Speaker 4>There isn't one way to be you know, different or
<v Speaker 4>weird or a sex worker, or to express yourself in
<v Speaker 4>these many beautiful ways like I get to do this
<v Speaker 4>and it's really great. And if my light helps you
<v Speaker 4>feel not alone, that's all I really want.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, how long have you been in the like, I guess,
<v Speaker 1>I guess it depends on what you one considers the
<v Speaker 1>porn industry, whether being a content creator only fans girl
<v Speaker 1>is that? Or you have to do professional scenes. So
<v Speaker 1>let's just say, like, how long have you been doing
<v Speaker 1>professional scenes?
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So, oh my anniversary is about to come UPO? Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>shot it is.
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I shot a Bollywood tail in August twenty seven
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty three.
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, really soon? Yeah? So almost two years? Yeah? Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>oh my goodness, my second year.
<v Speaker 1>I know, like I still feel like a baby, Like,
<v Speaker 1>how has your experience been and is it any different
<v Speaker 1>than what you expected?
<v Speaker 4>I think my experience one. I feel completely blessed. I
<v Speaker 4>know that I again, I'm not the only person to
<v Speaker 4>have a really big and beautiful start and go viral
<v Speaker 4>at the beginning of their career. But I also know
<v Speaker 4>that that is not a very common thread, right, So
<v Speaker 4>I feel like stepping into the adult entertainment industry has
<v Speaker 4>also come with immediate gratification, immediate praise, award nominations, and
<v Speaker 4>being told, wow, you're doing really great. I think it
<v Speaker 4>would probably suck if I, you know, fell flat on
<v Speaker 4>my face and never did anything great again? Yeah, but
<v Speaker 4>I mean for me, it's been really wonderful. It has
<v Speaker 4>allowed me to really blossom and take care of my
<v Speaker 4>creative garden. And I've never felt more creative or more
<v Speaker 4>on fire, like passion wise about what I've been doing.
<v Speaker 4>I feel like when I go to work, I go
<v Speaker 4>to set and I create content. Yes, I'm tired because
<v Speaker 4>it takes energy, but I feel alive.
<v Speaker 3>I feel emboldened. I feel like I want to do
<v Speaker 3>more and more.
<v Speaker 4>Creativity comes back to me from pouring into this cup,
<v Speaker 4>like my well is never empty.
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any interest in moving beyond just performing,
<v Speaker 1>like any behind the scenes, writing, directing, anything like that.
<v Speaker 3>I do.
<v Speaker 4>I Actually I enjoy writing. I want to kind of
<v Speaker 4>pick up scripts more. I've been playing with that more
<v Speaker 4>on my own time a little more, and directing as well.
<v Speaker 4>I have taken more of a stance for some of
<v Speaker 4>my own sights of like writing and directing. Things like
<v Speaker 4>when I was nominated for the Porn Have Awards, I
<v Speaker 4>when I realized, I was like, oh, I'm not going
<v Speaker 4>to be able to make it because like I have
<v Speaker 4>these last minute things. I looked at one of my
<v Speaker 4>friends who does videography, and I was like, look, I
<v Speaker 4>came up with a because I was like, the theme
<v Speaker 4>is what?
<v Speaker 3>It was? Western? Right, and so I was like, what
<v Speaker 3>outfits do I have?
<v Speaker 4>And so I had two outfits and I was like,
<v Speaker 4>what locations in New Orleans can I film that? And
<v Speaker 4>then I was like, oh, I'll pick this location. I
<v Speaker 4>was like, Okay, what can I do with this outfit
<v Speaker 4>in this location? So I came up with this backstory
<v Speaker 4>that I was like a buy you bounty hunter chasing
<v Speaker 4>down a pleasure criminal.
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I couldn't make it to the awards,
<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, and I was just like, damn, I
<v Speaker 3>did that, and it feels good.
<v Speaker 4>But there are some things that have come to me
<v Speaker 4>that I'm like, this is really good, you know.
<v Speaker 3>I actually don't think that's meant for me though, you know,
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's kind of like that itch that's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think there's something I don't wan want.
<v Speaker 1>It's not uncommon, obviously for performers to move to the
<v Speaker 1>other side of the camera, and I think it makes
<v Speaker 1>so much sense because you're the only people that know
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to be a performer. And I think
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes that disconnect between the director and the performer
<v Speaker 1>is problematic because you really, like, I mean, this is
<v Speaker 1>a stupid and weak example, but I hosted a Playway
<v Speaker 1>TV show for like three seasons, and I had never
<v Speaker 1>spent like that much time in front of the camera
<v Speaker 1>and having to be on, like when you're not feeling on,
<v Speaker 1>when you're tired, when you've had a bad day you
<v Speaker 1>got bad news, Like I never comprehended how much mental
<v Speaker 1>energy that took, Like I really didn't. And I remember
<v Speaker 1>there was actually one time we would do like confessionals
<v Speaker 1>after each episode and I broke down and started.
<v Speaker 3>Gonna say, I imagine so and so much yeah, and
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't. I couldn't stop crying.
<v Speaker 4>And it was like something triggered to me and I
<v Speaker 4>was like, you know, and I had They had to
<v Speaker 4>give me an hour to like calm down. And I
<v Speaker 4>remember being so mad because I think about like the
<v Speaker 4>director self, who would have been like this fucking bitch,
<v Speaker 4>like Jesus late, we just want to wrap up.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I wouldn't have said that.
<v Speaker 1>But there would have been a part of me as
<v Speaker 1>a director, there would have been a part.
<v Speaker 3>Of me been like, really, like get it together. We
<v Speaker 3>just only have like five more minutes to film. Oh
<v Speaker 3>my god, you know, but it is.
<v Speaker 4>And when I see you know, directors who are also
<v Speaker 4>in front of the camera that day.
<v Speaker 3>How do you juggle that?
<v Speaker 4>Because that's also crazy, especially when you have to be
<v Speaker 4>in front of the camera not only acting but performing.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's wild because a part of you as.
<v Speaker 4>A director not to say you have to be the
<v Speaker 4>mean guy, right, because like you have an ad, you
<v Speaker 4>have other people who are mean, but.
<v Speaker 3>Like you're not everyone's best friend. Yeah, right, you can't be.
<v Speaker 4>There has to be even if you're friendly, there has
<v Speaker 4>to be that delineation because you are the director.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everyone needs to understand that.
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that is something I don't know if I
<v Speaker 4>would want to do to do to have to play
<v Speaker 4>both roles, I would need someone who co directs or something.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Just now, what are you most excited about in
<v Speaker 3>your career?
<v Speaker 4>Now?
<v Speaker 3>Did you are there any like first that you've just
<v Speaker 3>recently done or any first coming in your future?
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I actually just filmed my first DV I can
<v Speaker 4>say that all the way, right, Actually, can you explain
<v Speaker 4>that to people who don't know what that is? So
<v Speaker 4>if you don't know what a DVP is because I
<v Speaker 4>didn't know what this was a year ago. I definitely
<v Speaker 4>didn't know is double vaginal penetration. So that means two
<v Speaker 4>penises in the one hole. And I don't have another
<v Speaker 4>so too. I don't know why I used two different ones,
<v Speaker 4>but two in one.
<v Speaker 3>So that was yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I it was with Sean alf and Robbie Apples and
<v Speaker 4>I was, Oh, I just had Sean on last week.
<v Speaker 4>He's such a gem. Yeah, such a gem. I had
<v Speaker 4>a great time with both of them. But I had
<v Speaker 4>put out a tweet if you will, and I was like,
<v Speaker 4>who will actually film a boy boy girl with me?
<v Speaker 4>Because I was like, I have none for my own
<v Speaker 4>sights And they responded and then they mentioned they were like, hey,
<v Speaker 4>if you're into this, and I was like, I don't
<v Speaker 4>know if I am. I was like, I don't even
<v Speaker 4>have like a boy boy girl. Was like, you know what,
<v Speaker 4>like if I ever want to collab with Girth the Master, I.
<v Speaker 3>Gotta get it. I gotta get ready.
<v Speaker 4>You know, something's gotta get something's gotta get God, I mean,
<v Speaker 4>Girth Master is so huge, like our our Robbie and
<v Speaker 4>Sean's dicks together even as why do I.
<v Speaker 1>Think like I don't know, say they are maybe we
<v Speaker 1>need to do a measuring contact.
<v Speaker 4>You have to say, like, it's not just this plus
<v Speaker 4>this is this and then there's space around it.
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, so the bodies yeah, because I mean, they
<v Speaker 3>don't just meld them come on right there, there's a
<v Speaker 3>little bit of like yeah, is so at least av
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of opening at the bottom.
<v Speaker 4>It took my brain like a moment to just process
<v Speaker 4>that and my vagina moment to because I was.
<v Speaker 3>Like, what was going on? What does that feel like?
<v Speaker 4>It's not like one big deck going yeah, because that
<v Speaker 4>is something that was very surprising to me. But once
<v Speaker 4>and I remember being like, because we had paused for
<v Speaker 4>something for still.
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, my brain is not it's very
<v Speaker 3>different he go. And I think it was Sean Who's like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>He's like, your tone changed completely as we started.
<v Speaker 4>You were just like whoa, whoa, whoa, Wait a second,
<v Speaker 4>wait a second. And then after about three to five
<v Speaker 4>minutes and I was like, okay, all right, I can
<v Speaker 4>this is it?
<v Speaker 3>This is it was? It was amazing. Do they alternate
<v Speaker 3>or they the same time? Both both both a little
<v Speaker 3>one and both harder than is which one's best.
<v Speaker 4>I think it's easier if one's more stationary. So if
<v Speaker 4>one is more stationary, only one is the other versus
<v Speaker 4>both of them trying to move. That's kind of like
<v Speaker 4>how a DP works better. Yea, one's like the anchor.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you have to. And I will say yeah every
<v Speaker 4>time I would come or almost every time I would
<v Speaker 4>come in, like push one of them out because it
<v Speaker 4>was just like, hey, there's not a space in their guys. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll got to get out of here while
<v Speaker 4>we while we clinched. Sorry, So where can people find
<v Speaker 4>that scene? They can find it on my only fans evens. Honestly,
<v Speaker 4>if you go to Jazzmine Charity dot com are all
<v Speaker 4>bad bitches. Go to heaven dot com you can find
<v Speaker 4>all my links.
<v Speaker 1>Oh perfect, Okay, So this is a personal content scene.
<v Speaker 1>This is not something that you're going see at a studio.
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully someday. You know what, I should put it out there.
<v Speaker 3>I should. I should put a tweet out there telling
<v Speaker 3>studios I'm runny for that. Okay. I thought, I bet
<v Speaker 3>I'll get even bigger one. So yeah, they're not.
<v Speaker 1>They're going to put you with like Isaiah Maxwell and
<v Speaker 1>like Kieran Lee or something.
<v Speaker 4>Kieran Lee is, Oh is he No, I haven't talked
<v Speaker 4>to him so long. Yeah, he's moving back across the pond.
<v Speaker 4>I know that he's not the industry. I know that
<v Speaker 4>he's been trying to for like the last few years.
<v Speaker 4>Is yeah, from him going back to Darby he is.
<v Speaker 4>But uh, I don't blame him. I'm holding tight onto
<v Speaker 4>my British passport right now, and I'm like, my mom's British.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I have do.
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, wait a second, how did I
<v Speaker 1>not know? Well, I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't blame you.
<v Speaker 1>So hold on to your pack, I am. I'm just like, God,
<v Speaker 1>don't lose this thing, because who knows.
<v Speaker 4>Actually, uh I I travel like right now, I have
<v Speaker 4>my passport in my back just in case, right now, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>just in case at.
<v Speaker 3>Any moment, any moment, always be ready.
<v Speaker 4>Also in case I need papers. Yeah. So let's talk
<v Speaker 4>about Marty Ras. Oh my god, Marty, you're very involved
<v Speaker 4>in that.
<v Speaker 1>So I have to say, I have never been to
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans and it's like the top of my list,
<v Speaker 1>that's the I've okay, it's it's so down, it's so
<v Speaker 1>like up my alley and even My husband's like, you
<v Speaker 1>have to go, you would love it, and I've never been.
<v Speaker 4>It's come to Marti Gras, so it's coming with me
<v Speaker 4>to Marty. Marty Grass that's a lot. Well, I mean.
<v Speaker 3>Everything's a lot. You also you do a van that's
<v Speaker 3>a lot? Is it?
<v Speaker 4>Is it the same as Avian? It don't doubt about
<v Speaker 4>the West. I think it's like it's the similar things.
<v Speaker 4>You're going, you're going, you're on, you're going, you know.
<v Speaker 4>I think of that. But also to be fair, maybe
<v Speaker 4>this next year isn't the year because I think you
<v Speaker 4>have a van.
<v Speaker 3>Marti Graus changes. I don't know if you know this,
<v Speaker 3>you don't know.
<v Speaker 4>So Marty Gras starts it always starts on the same date.
<v Speaker 4>It starts on January sixth, which is all Kings Day
<v Speaker 4>that is by you know, the Julian calendar.
<v Speaker 3>Am I saying that right? With the Julian calendar? Yes? Okay?
<v Speaker 3>And then named after Julius Caesar, yes, thank you.
<v Speaker 4>But Marty Gras Day is the day before ash Wednesday,
<v Speaker 4>and ash Wednesday moves around because it is based off
<v Speaker 4>the lunar calendar, because Easter is based off the lunar calendar, right,
<v Speaker 4>forty days before Easter, right, So then that changes every year.
<v Speaker 4>So it's somewhere between early Marty Grass early February, which
<v Speaker 4>will be in twenty twenty six, and then later Marty
<v Speaker 4>Graus would.
<v Speaker 3>Be like March. I think like mid March. Early March
<v Speaker 3>would be like the latest.
<v Speaker 4>Okay, But so this next Marty Gras season is gonna
<v Speaker 4>be super packed. It's right after Avin and it's gonna
<v Speaker 4>really fucking suck for me. Yeah, it's gonna say like,
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna okay, So tell me about Because you like
<v Speaker 4>build floats and you do all kinds of stuff, right,
<v Speaker 4>you don't just go no, I mean.
<v Speaker 3>You can, you definitely can.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm into Marti Gras cruise and people don't I
<v Speaker 4>don't exactly understand what crews are.
<v Speaker 3>Crew spelled with a K with a K k R
<v Speaker 3>e w S. This is true. That is how you
<v Speaker 3>do it cruise.
<v Speaker 4>When you say, like what is a crew, you think
<v Speaker 4>of like the big parades, those are what are called
<v Speaker 4>mega crews, right, Like, so you have a big crew
<v Speaker 4>that parades, and within that you have your crews that
<v Speaker 4>compose that other crew, right, And so I'm in like
<v Speaker 4>my own crew that goes to different parades. Okay, started
<v Speaker 4>out first with a crew that does always has like
<v Speaker 4>a different dystopian paradise theme every year. That is a
<v Speaker 4>marching crew. That's the one I build the float with.
<v Speaker 4>We paper mache. We like, we come up with our theme.
<v Speaker 4>Last year was oh my god, I didn't I didn't
<v Speaker 4>march with them. Last year, oh hell, it was hell
<v Speaker 4>Hell's Disco. So we made a train. The train had
<v Speaker 4>confetti and like smoke that came out of it, and
<v Speaker 4>we put dancers up top and then we pull it.
<v Speaker 4>Because we're not in any like big crews that you
<v Speaker 4>can have like a motorizing in so okay, it has
<v Speaker 4>to be like pulled by hand, which also means we
<v Speaker 4>don't really have breaks. So we do have to let
<v Speaker 4>people know when we go through like all Marty Gras Day,
<v Speaker 4>we're rolling through tight spaces and there's a big crowd
<v Speaker 4>where like it's your job if you're one of the
<v Speaker 4>people in the front to be like big float, no breaks.
<v Speaker 3>I need you all to move because we got a big
<v Speaker 3>float with no break. Wow, how many people have to
<v Speaker 3>pull the float? Do they like trade off? Because we
<v Speaker 3>do exhausting we do.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you have two people in the back pushing,
<v Speaker 4>and then you have at least two people in the
<v Speaker 4>front who have ropes, if not like four people depending. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>and then you have your dancers and there are people
<v Speaker 4>who swap out who's dancing up top?
<v Speaker 3>You guys don't go down hills, I assume. Is it
<v Speaker 3>all flat? New Orleans is extremely fucking flat? Okay, grble
<v Speaker 3>potholes now that we do have to look out. There
<v Speaker 3>are times we're like, all.
<v Speaker 4>Right, everybody, we got a big pothole coming up, and
<v Speaker 4>so we have to have more people go through and
<v Speaker 4>push right, you know.
<v Speaker 3>But it's not a hill.
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever get like stuck and then like the
<v Speaker 1>float behind you like hits you. Then you fee like
<v Speaker 1>a float pile up? No, I don't think we've had that.
<v Speaker 1>There was one time the float tipped over and fell.
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't there. I fell off of the float one
<v Speaker 3>year dancing. I put both of my feet on like
<v Speaker 3>the bar, which I had told someone like maybe a
<v Speaker 3>few weeks, and I was like, how do you do that?
<v Speaker 4>I could not. I was like, I don't think I'd
<v Speaker 4>always be scared. Always keep one leg on. She's like, no,
<v Speaker 4>just make sure you have good grippy shoes. Well, then
<v Speaker 4>like the float rocks and there are other dancers like
<v Speaker 4>started rocking it without telling me. And by the time
<v Speaker 4>you're rocking like this was like I can't jump down.
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna hit my face. So I was like, okay,
<v Speaker 4>well all counterbalance. And then they rocked real hard the
<v Speaker 4>other way and I just go whoop, Oh my god,
<v Speaker 4>right onto the ground. I mean, but it's also like
<v Speaker 4>it's high up. It's higher than like a U haul truck,
<v Speaker 4>Like there's in the video there's actually a U haul
<v Speaker 4>truck that's next to the float, and like I'm up
<v Speaker 4>here and the U haul truck is down here.
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, were you like really seriously hurt? Thankfully,
<v Speaker 3>there were two people on the ground that kind of
<v Speaker 3>broke my fall. I literally like I'm land I hit
<v Speaker 3>one guy and the other one like made eye contact
<v Speaker 3>with me, and he was like thank god he was there.
<v Speaker 4>Wow. But I put this kname like I had a
<v Speaker 4>huge gash here, This fingernail was ripped off and I
<v Speaker 4>had like you can still kind of see it right here.
<v Speaker 3>I had this big like and you know what, I
<v Speaker 3>also learned there aren't a lot of armpit wounds in
<v Speaker 3>the world. I'm not a commonplace for people to have wounds.
<v Speaker 3>But let me tell you it sucked because, like you couldn't.
<v Speaker 4>I just had to keep my arm like this all
<v Speaker 4>the time, and I couldn't make any content.
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do anything. So I would sit on TikTok.
<v Speaker 4>For like hours on Live in like my little content room,
<v Speaker 4>just like drinking.
<v Speaker 3>Tea and talking to people on TikTok, and they just
<v Speaker 3>be like, what happened to your knee? Like what happened
<v Speaker 3>to you?
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, guys, I fell off a float, Like every
<v Speaker 4>like fifteen minutes that I just fuck.
<v Speaker 3>Hey, everyone, I fell off a float. Okay, leave me alone.
<v Speaker 3>Videos on my page, go look at it. Oo.
<v Speaker 4>Yikes, that does not sound fun. It is not any
<v Speaker 4>big plans for the rest of the year. What is
<v Speaker 4>for the rest of the year. I mentioned this before,
<v Speaker 4>like I always have to look at my calendar. Yeah.
<v Speaker 4>I just got finished shooting a door cell feature. Okay,
<v Speaker 4>that was my big thing that was coming up.
<v Speaker 1>So that you've shot it and it's still it's coming
<v Speaker 1>up because I haven't been released, So that's that's something
<v Speaker 1>that's coming up.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, So door Cell feature, the dvp's coming up. I'm
<v Speaker 3>starting a podcast of my own. It is. It's it's little,
<v Speaker 3>it's silly. It's literally just to let people.
<v Speaker 4>It's to like answer frequently asked questions, which I'm I
<v Speaker 4>imagine at some point it will then go to other
<v Speaker 4>people's frequently asked questions and have a guest of like hey,
<v Speaker 4>what like, Hey, I'm glad you asked that, Like let's
<v Speaker 4>talk about it. Yeah, type thing that's coming, which to
<v Speaker 4>say is also that I have started my Only Fans TV.
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, because this goes on Only Fans TV as well. Right,
<v Speaker 4>this will go on the channel that is one of
<v Speaker 4>the reason they feature you.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I did, That's what I So.
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been trying to plan out with my creative
<v Speaker 4>director of like what my next big videos are going
<v Speaker 4>to be, so fingers crossed on that. So more creativity,
<v Speaker 4>more acting, maybe a collab with Growth Master.
<v Speaker 3>Mm. So you're listening, it's got to fix his uh
<v Speaker 3>Ris has got a heal first, this is true. This
<v Speaker 3>is true. But I was a nurse. It's fine. Oh
<v Speaker 3>that's true. Perfect scene. I've been waiting two years for this.
<v Speaker 1>There we go, love it, love it? Yes, well, Jasmine,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on. We're going to
<v Speaker 1>do an extra bonus Q and A for my Patreon
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<v Speaker 1>member of Patreon, you will see that. But in the meantime, Jasmin,
<v Speaker 1>can you let everyone know where they can find you online?
<v Speaker 4>Hi?
<v Speaker 3>Hi? If you want to go and see all of
<v Speaker 3>my links, you can go to all bad Bitches, go
<v Speaker 3>to heaven dot com and find me there. Got a
<v Speaker 3>great url. Love it.
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<v Speaker 3>I will see you on the next one.