FORT KNOX TRAINING TURNED INTO A SASQUATCH ENCOUNTER | 8 FT BIGFOOT SEEN STANDING IN COLORADO CREEK

<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. On this episode,
<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by Cain from Pennsylvania. He shares a series
<v Speaker 1>of encounters that span through multiple states, and there's some
<v Speaker 1>of the most intense situations we've ever covered on the show.
<v Speaker 1>Cain's first experience happened during army training near Fort Knox
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky. He also shares a daylight sighting in Colorado's
<v Speaker 1>Gunnison National Forest. We'll also hear about a chilling encounter
<v Speaker 1>his grandfather experience while hunting in Pennsylvania, involving an overpowering
<v Speaker 1>odor and a terrifying roar that forced him to leave
<v Speaker 1>the woods. If you enjoy listening to Sasquatch Theory, please
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<v Speaker 1>report here on Sasquatch Theory. Kaine, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today.
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, Miguel. I just wanted to start off
<v Speaker 2>by saying that I appreciate what you do and all
<v Speaker 2>the work that you put in. I've been listening to
<v Speaker 2>your or watching your YouTube videos for a very long time.
<v Speaker 2>I've specifically stuck with your channel because of the research
<v Speaker 2>you do, and I think that makes you stand out
<v Speaker 2>compared to the other channels, and I'm very appreciated for
<v Speaker 2>that and giving everyone a platform that has encounters.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and I appreciate you for supporting the channel. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I like to get out there and get my hands
<v Speaker 1>dirty out in the forest, and I feel like you
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to if you're going to speak with
<v Speaker 1>other people about bigfoot, you kind of have to know
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Definitely, if you would tell me about
<v Speaker 1>your first experiences, where you're from and how everything ties in.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, my name's Kine. I'm from Pennsylvania. My encounters
<v Speaker 2>and other things I'm going to talk about kind of
<v Speaker 2>vary throughout the East coast, but the most important one,
<v Speaker 2>which I'll be talking about first, is from Kentucky, which
<v Speaker 2>is specifically right outside of Fort Knox, the Army base there.
<v Speaker 2>This was back in twenty twenty one, and this was
<v Speaker 2>in June. I was at Fort Knox for training for
<v Speaker 2>the Army, and the first half of our training wasn't
<v Speaker 2>having to do out in the woods, but eventually towards
<v Speaker 2>the end we had to do training out and around
<v Speaker 2>Fort Knox. Well, the training we did, some of it
<v Speaker 2>was on base, but a lot of most of it
<v Speaker 2>took place off base, which which means there could be
<v Speaker 2>civilians in the area, but there wasn't this time of
<v Speaker 2>the year because we were carrying real guns shooting blanks
<v Speaker 2>and no person would be out there, and we're kind
<v Speaker 2>of out in the middle of nowhere even though it's
<v Speaker 2>off base. So this how this training took place was
<v Speaker 2>we did three separate three day iterations. Each three day
<v Speaker 2>iteration was a different pace of training, but it was
<v Speaker 2>all sort of the same thing. And what was kind
<v Speaker 2>of taking place to paint the picture was infantry tactics.
<v Speaker 2>So we're doing what's called patrolling. You're using you're moving
<v Speaker 2>as a platoon and and you're moving through the woods
<v Speaker 2>basically as you would in like a warlike scenario, and
<v Speaker 2>you're you're not walking on trails, you're just pushing straight
<v Speaker 2>through the woods. It doesn't matter if it's a hill, creek,
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, you're moving right through it. And then
<v Speaker 2>we would finish our training for the day. We would
<v Speaker 2>move through the woods. And this terrain we would move
<v Speaker 2>through was unlike any other terrain I've seen. You're talking
<v Speaker 2>about rolling hills that move right into thick vegetation. The
<v Speaker 2>rolling hills have grass that goes up above your head
<v Speaker 2>at certain points. It's extremely thick, and it was kind
<v Speaker 2>of it kind of gave you like an untouched, like
<v Speaker 2>archaic kind of feeling to it, like nothing you'd see
<v Speaker 2>and your typical like hunting, like mountain hunting or anything
<v Speaker 2>like this is very like untouched land, is how it felt.
<v Speaker 2>Some spots, I often got the feeling that you were
<v Speaker 2>being watched as well, just like an eerie feeling through
<v Speaker 2>some spots, and it was like very identifiable when you
<v Speaker 2>feel that feeling too. But moving into the encounter. This
<v Speaker 2>was our last day of our third iteration, so that
<v Speaker 2>we were all ready to get out of the woods.
<v Speaker 2>It's our last day, and each one of the nights
<v Speaker 2>that we would go to sleep, there'd always be a
<v Speaker 2>fire watch, so someone would have to be awake at
<v Speaker 2>all points of the night keeping watch on the radio,
<v Speaker 2>and how we would sleep was in what's called a
<v Speaker 2>patrol base, so it's kind of like a triangle formation,
<v Speaker 2>and everyone sleeps in a sleeping bag on the ground
<v Speaker 2>in a triangle formation, kind of spaced out. And that's
<v Speaker 2>for like how we have like our guns spaced out
<v Speaker 2>and how we kind of keep security, simulating again the
<v Speaker 2>patrolling in real life like war scenario. So this night
<v Speaker 2>in particular, we it was this is June, so very warm,
<v Speaker 2>but this night in particular was the coldest night of
<v Speaker 2>them all. I find it kind of ironic that right
<v Speaker 2>before I went to bed, I actually had eaten Jacklink's
<v Speaker 2>beef turkey because they're they always do the Bigfoot skit,
<v Speaker 2>but I happened to eat Jacklink's beef jerkey that night
<v Speaker 2>before I went to bed, and we actually had a
<v Speaker 2>like a gunfight right before he bed that right before
<v Speaker 2>we betted down. That was the That was always the
<v Speaker 2>training scenario. We'd get attacked by OP four, which I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure viewers are kind of familiar with from other encounters
<v Speaker 2>up for as like fake enemy and they attack you
<v Speaker 2>and we would shoot actual blank rounds. So like it
<v Speaker 2>sounds like gunshots going off, and we're just lighting up
<v Speaker 2>the woods. One thing. Another thing when I mention is
<v Speaker 2>the regiment that I was in was the second regiment.
<v Speaker 2>So each season that they do this training, there's about
<v Speaker 2>ten to twenty regiments that push through with roughly about
<v Speaker 2>five hundred soldiers that are all split up into different platoons,
<v Speaker 2>and we just push through this woods like like all
<v Speaker 2>different areas. So whatever's in there is bound to get
<v Speaker 2>kicked up, even the stuff that's hiding in the thickest
<v Speaker 2>stuff is bound to have to move. And that is
<v Speaker 2>a very central thing to this encounter that I'll get
<v Speaker 2>into in a little bit. So I go to sleep,
<v Speaker 2>and like I had mentioned, this is the coldest night,
<v Speaker 2>so normally I would have my head out of the
<v Speaker 2>sleeping bag, but this night, in particular, I was fully
<v Speaker 2>zipped in. I also had my phone with me, which
<v Speaker 2>some platoons weren't allowed to, but my platoon was not
<v Speaker 2>as strict or a cadre. So go to sleep, and
<v Speaker 2>I estimated to be about anywhere from midnight to one
<v Speaker 2>in the morning where I started to drift out of
<v Speaker 2>sleep and become fully awake. And what made me drift
<v Speaker 2>out of sleep is. I started to hear a noise
<v Speaker 2>approaching our patrol base out in the middle of the woods.
<v Speaker 2>Our cadre were not in the area because we have radio.
<v Speaker 2>We have radios to be able to keep calms with
<v Speaker 2>them in case anything would go down, so it is
<v Speaker 2>literally just us and whatever other platoons are in the
<v Speaker 2>general area. Well, this noise that I heard was a
<v Speaker 2>whooping sound and I could hear it from really far
<v Speaker 2>off at first when I started slowly drifting out of sleep,
<v Speaker 2>and it would get closer and closer, and I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>make the sound that I heard. And the first part
<v Speaker 2>was three whoops, and then it was followed by a
<v Speaker 2>clicking noise. And I'll do the whoops and I'll do
<v Speaker 2>the clicking noise. So I apologize if this is loud,
<v Speaker 2>but it was extremely loud in person, like loudest I've
<v Speaker 2>ever heard something like an animal be loud. So it
<v Speaker 2>went and then it was followed by the clicking noise.
<v Speaker 2>And this clicking noise really reminds me of like how
<v Speaker 2>you'd picture like a gorilla smacking its lips, like you
<v Speaker 2>could hear the lips smack. It was like very eerie
<v Speaker 2>sound like creepy, and I'll get to why it so scary.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm hearing this noise approach, and at this point
<v Speaker 2>I'm fully awake and I'm listening to this and it
<v Speaker 2>starts getting closer, and then I start hearing the footsteps approaching.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh shit, like this thing's getting here pretty quick.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't hear anybody else like waking up. I'm
<v Speaker 2>just kind of laying there silently and listening and trying
<v Speaker 2>to figure out what's going on. You kind of disoriented
<v Speaker 2>because you're in a sleeping bag and it's dark, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm just laying there in the middle of the woods.
<v Speaker 2>And that's when I started to realize that this thing
<v Speaker 2>was moving bi pedally. It bipedal two feet it was.
<v Speaker 2>It would go like, i'd say about five to ten steps.
<v Speaker 2>You could hear each step, and it was covering ground
<v Speaker 2>like I heard this thing from far away what it
<v Speaker 2>sounded like. And it was approaching very quickly. But it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like it was running. It was just moving quickly.
<v Speaker 2>When it would move and I'd say, make five to
<v Speaker 2>ten steps and then it would stop. When you hear
<v Speaker 2>it stop, it would kind of like maybe shuffle its
<v Speaker 2>feet a little bit, and it would repeat the same
<v Speaker 2>exact thing every single time. And I'm talking loud, loud vocals,
<v Speaker 2>and these whoops were loud. It would do the same
<v Speaker 2>whoop and then it would do the clicking noise. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear the clicking noise until I got closer. Eventually,
<v Speaker 2>this thing is like on us. It is on the
<v Speaker 2>edge of our patrol base, and it got into the
<v Speaker 2>literal center of our patrol base. Like and you're talking
<v Speaker 2>about all these soldiers, probably about forty maybe thirty of us,
<v Speaker 2>all sleeping around here. It was in the dead center.
<v Speaker 2>This thing was five feet five to ten feet away
<v Speaker 2>from me, and it stopped in the dead center of
<v Speaker 2>the patrol base and did this whoop loud as ever.
<v Speaker 2>It was so loud it shook my chest. And I
<v Speaker 2>just hear this thing standing or whatever it is, standing
<v Speaker 2>walking whatever on four feet. It sounded like two feet,
<v Speaker 2>but don't know because I didn't actually get eyes on it.
<v Speaker 2>And I'll get into why that is. And I hear
<v Speaker 2>it like breathing, like it's like a I could hear
<v Speaker 2>it like gasp effort, did the whoop and it's like oh,
<v Speaker 2>And then you can hear it kind of like makes
<v Speaker 2>like little grunting sounds like, and then the lip smack
<v Speaker 2>was like clear as ever, kept making the sound. So
<v Speaker 2>at this point, my heart is racing out of my
<v Speaker 2>chest like just laying there, and I'm like, all right,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try and get a picture or whatever this
<v Speaker 2>thing is. And I'm thinking, like how am I going
<v Speaker 2>to do this? Like this thing's literally like feet a
<v Speaker 2>couple feet away from me, and I put my hand
<v Speaker 2>on my phone and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>swipe to the have an iPhone, I'm gonna swipe to
<v Speaker 2>the right, get to the picture. I'm going to pull
<v Speaker 2>this ipper down my seat bag and just snap a
<v Speaker 2>pick of this thing. And I'm building up the guts
<v Speaker 2>and it's right in front of me and I go
<v Speaker 2>to like make the motion of pulling the zipper down
<v Speaker 2>and like pull my phone out, and something in my
<v Speaker 2>brain just was like stop, like don't do it. Stop
<v Speaker 2>stop stop, Like it was just like a I didn't
<v Speaker 2>hear a voice, but it was just like a sensation
<v Speaker 2>was just like don't do it. And that feeling made
<v Speaker 2>me freeze, like completely frozen, almost like a like a
<v Speaker 2>night terror. Like how it makes you feel like you
<v Speaker 2>can't move. And I was just kind of frozen there
<v Speaker 2>listening to this thing, and then I kind of just
<v Speaker 2>accepted it, and I was like, I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>this thing is. If I take a picture of it,
<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen to me? You know, it's the
<v Speaker 2>it's the military. Crazy things happen, And I wasn't ready
<v Speaker 2>to put myself in a situation where I would be
<v Speaker 2>in some sort of danger. You know, I'm thinking worst
<v Speaker 2>comes to worse. I don't know if this thing is
<v Speaker 2>and it drags me out of the woods, well, then
<v Speaker 2>it keeps moving and it walks. Oh. Also, I'll mentioned
<v Speaker 2>through this whole time, I did not hear anybody else
<v Speaker 2>really waking up. I might have heard like one little
<v Speaker 2>like sleeping bag rustle, because this whoop was loud. And
<v Speaker 2>we're all tired from the train. I mean, this is
<v Speaker 2>our last day. We're out there for like there's a
<v Speaker 2>day in between each three days. We're out there for
<v Speaker 2>about twelve days at this point, all really tired. And
<v Speaker 2>so this thing keeps moving and it keeps the same routine.
<v Speaker 2>The whole way through walks about ten twenty feet stops,
<v Speaker 2>does the three whoops, and then it would be followed
<v Speaker 2>by the clicking noise, and this thing just kept we're going.
<v Speaker 2>I listened to it until I couldn't hear it anymore,
<v Speaker 2>and I just heard it go over the hill and
<v Speaker 2>keep going off in the distance, and the echo just
<v Speaker 2>slowly like faded away into the distance. But I was
<v Speaker 2>sitting there listening to this thing for like i'd say,
<v Speaker 2>somewhere around ten to twenty minutes, just keep going and
<v Speaker 2>off into the distance. And a lot of people that
<v Speaker 2>I told this to are like, oh, it's your your
<v Speaker 2>cadre messing with you or something else. I'm like, no,
<v Speaker 2>they're not out there with us. If that was them,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they would keep going a mile into
<v Speaker 2>the woods. And it's just it happened too perfectly for
<v Speaker 2>it to be that scenario. This was an animal. I
<v Speaker 2>heard it grunt like right next to me like something.
<v Speaker 2>It just sounded big. So after this thing actually originally
<v Speaker 2>just like I would say, it was probably like fifty
<v Speaker 2>feet away from us. At this point, I said out
<v Speaker 2>loud because I was awake, and I said, what the
<v Speaker 2>F was that? Like, I said it out loud to everyone.
<v Speaker 2>No response. So eventually go back to sleep. I don't
<v Speaker 2>even know what to think at this point, still in
<v Speaker 2>my sleeping bag, and wake up the next morning. And
<v Speaker 2>I at this point I had known what bigfoot was,
<v Speaker 2>and I was somewhat of a believer, but I obviously
<v Speaker 2>never thought i'd encounter anything like it. But first thing
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna go
<v Speaker 2>look like they're like footprints or anything. Nothing. It's dry
<v Speaker 2>dirt and leaves, mostly just leaves covering the dry dirt.
<v Speaker 2>I looked around, couldn't see anything, and then I started
<v Speaker 2>asking people. I'm like, yo, anybody here, whatever that was
<v Speaker 2>that just walked through the center of the patrol base
<v Speaker 2>last night. A lot of people said no, I didn't
<v Speaker 2>hear anything. There was one guy who said that it
<v Speaker 2>was a skunk, which is just absolute bs. I. There
<v Speaker 2>there was one person who said, I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>that was, but it's it's stepped on my sleeping bag,
<v Speaker 2>and that would have I think that would have sent
<v Speaker 2>me off the edge if that was my case, because
<v Speaker 2>I was fully awake. But that's the other aspect of
<v Speaker 2>it is at least other people recognized it was there,
<v Speaker 2>so it take it takes out the option that this
<v Speaker 2>was some sort of like lucid dream or something. It wasn't.
<v Speaker 2>I was wide awake. I heard this thing come in
<v Speaker 2>from far away, and I heard it go very far
<v Speaker 2>away from where we were at, and at that point
<v Speaker 2>I just had to let it be because nobody really
<v Speaker 2>wanted to entertain it. I think I mentioned Bigfoot at
<v Speaker 2>one point, and I just kind of got some weird
<v Speaker 2>looks and I was like, all right, I'm not going
<v Speaker 2>to convince these people, and I'm trying to think. I
<v Speaker 2>did reach back out to everybody at a different point
<v Speaker 2>in time, like all right, somebody, somebody's got a fest
<v Speaker 2>up to hearing this thing, and I got the same responses,
<v Speaker 2>same kids, saying I was a skunk, and then nobody
<v Speaker 2>else responded. Part of me thinks that's because it freaked
<v Speaker 2>out whoever else it was, and they're not like into
<v Speaker 2>this sort of subject and they just don't know how
<v Speaker 2>to approach it or don't want to acknowledge it because
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty freaky. I do have some other weird things
<v Speaker 2>that happened, I don't know if you want me, or
<v Speaker 2>other things that had to do with this specific thing.
<v Speaker 2>I'll just get into it really quickly. There was a
<v Speaker 2>previous night watch when we actually had people awake at night.
<v Speaker 2>This time, again, we didn't. That's what I think is
<v Speaker 2>so ironic about this, because we didn't have people awake.
<v Speaker 2>We were all astun asleep. Radio is returned off. But
<v Speaker 2>on a previous night when we did have a night watch,
<v Speaker 2>this wasn't me that was awake, but there was night
<v Speaker 2>watch that said that they heard something like walking around,
<v Speaker 2>kind of like keeping its distance from our patrol base,
<v Speaker 2>and it was murmuring things and kind of like a
<v Speaker 2>drowned out voice. And they never actually saw what it was,
<v Speaker 2>but they heard it kind of like pacing around and
<v Speaker 2>they can never really make out what it was saying,
<v Speaker 2>but it kept murmuring things in this drowned out voice,
<v Speaker 2>and they said it did sound by Petle. So there
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of strange activity around that particular training area.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you have any questions from there
<v Speaker 2>before I move on to some other stuff I'd talked about.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And I've heard of bigfoot reports around Fort
<v Speaker 1>Knox and Kentucky. And why do you think nobody woke
<v Speaker 1>up when this thing was whooping and doing the clicking
<v Speaker 1>sounds and it even approached the center of the platoon unit,
<v Speaker 1>and it did allowed Like, how do you think nobody
<v Speaker 1>woke up? Do you think it had people like in
<v Speaker 1>a trance. It was using infra sound. What's your theory
<v Speaker 1>about that?
<v Speaker 2>My honest opinion is that it scared people and they
<v Speaker 2>don't want to admit it or entertain it. There were
<v Speaker 2>other people that hurt it. But the other thing was,
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really trying to be like high key about this,
<v Speaker 2>Like I wasn't trying to make it like a super
<v Speaker 2>big deal because I don't want to like look a
<v Speaker 2>certain way. I guess when I was there, But I
<v Speaker 2>think people did hear it, they just don't really want
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. And I don't know. I do
<v Speaker 2>consider myself like a little more like aware in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>But again, it was right in the center of the
<v Speaker 2>patrol base. It was loud. I guarantee people woke up.
<v Speaker 2>The other thing is that we were all like dead.
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be surprised if a wide majority of people
<v Speaker 2>just slept right through it, as weird as that might sound,
<v Speaker 2>but that's kind of my theory.
<v Speaker 1>There no that makes sense, and I feel like that
<v Speaker 1>would be part of the training like if something comes
<v Speaker 1>into camp, like you guys have to like spring up
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, take action. But no, I definitely
<v Speaker 1>understand you guys been out there for many days and
<v Speaker 1>you guys were dead tired, and yeah, I'm sure that
<v Speaker 1>was freaking I've heard other people mention the clicking sound
<v Speaker 1>and they refer to it like the predator.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually never thought about it that way. It
<v Speaker 2>was a little more like not saying it was an ape,
<v Speaker 2>but it sounded apy, like a like a real lipsmack.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever seen videos of gorillas
<v Speaker 2>making like kind of clicking noise that sounded just like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I haven't, but when you mentioned it, I
<v Speaker 1>was like, whoa, I got to check that out. I'm
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna YouTube gorilla is doing that now. I've heard
<v Speaker 1>them like do chest pops where they hit their chests
<v Speaker 1>with their hands and it sounds like they're playing bombos.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've ever heard that.
<v Speaker 2>I have.
<v Speaker 1>I have heard that, not specifically with the encounter, but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a factor essentially.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The other thing is like those whoops were so loud,
<v Speaker 2>like ear piercing. Yeah, I just thought that was kind
<v Speaker 2>of crazy, how loud that was.
<v Speaker 3>And what do you think the sasquatch was up to?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's what I wanted to get into. So I
<v Speaker 2>think that when we pushed through here, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>we were the second regiment. So these things have kind
<v Speaker 2>of been living back there for better half of the year,
<v Speaker 2>you know, just hanging low and you know, maybe the
<v Speaker 2>hunters during the winter or whatever. But I think that
<v Speaker 2>we pushed them out, and that brings me into what
<v Speaker 2>the whooping could be. Is that it's like a like
<v Speaker 2>a location thing, like it's calling out to see where
<v Speaker 2>they are, and it kept moving in a steady direction.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking maybe it was a juvenile or whatever
<v Speaker 2>age it was. It got separated and it was trying
<v Speaker 2>to find its group during the night, not during the day,
<v Speaker 2>because it was safer for it to move at night.
<v Speaker 2>And then it's just it's trying to cover ground and
<v Speaker 2>whoop until something else hears it and then it can
<v Speaker 2>get reconnected with them. It makes sense to that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a very good theory. You guys possibly flushed
<v Speaker 1>out these creatures and they split off in different directions,
<v Speaker 1>and it traveled through your guys' camp, maybe being territorial
<v Speaker 1>and also trying to locate the rest of the plan
<v Speaker 1>by doing whoops and the mouth pops and yeah, that
<v Speaker 1>brings new insights to the whoops. Possibly they're locating each
<v Speaker 1>other similar to turkeys or elk when they call out.
<v Speaker 1>My exact thought, Yeah, that's creepy either way. I can't
<v Speaker 1>imagine how you felt like in the sleeping bag. You
<v Speaker 1>probably felt like a bag of meat in there.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that was scary.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he didn't like stop you guys.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't pick you guys up in the sleeping bag
<v Speaker 1>and swinging around hit you against a tree like. He
<v Speaker 1>just went through there, probably to show a little forest
<v Speaker 1>and that he was upset with you guys and then
<v Speaker 1>moved on.
<v Speaker 2>M I'll be honest with the part of me thinks
<v Speaker 2>he didn't even know we were there. Yeah, just because
<v Speaker 2>he didn't he didn't break his pattern and he didn't
<v Speaker 2>do anything differently when he was in the center. But
<v Speaker 2>he very well could have known that we were there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he be lined it towards you guys. It could
<v Speaker 1>be that you busted out the Jacklynx beef.
<v Speaker 3>Jerkey and that's why he came in. Yeah, but who knows.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he was looking for food though, did you guys
<v Speaker 1>have like, did you guys cook up food before you
<v Speaker 1>guys went to bed or how anything out and about
<v Speaker 1>as far as in the camp.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we always had mrs. That's what we ate in
<v Speaker 2>the field, and we would normally get ransacked by raccoons
<v Speaker 2>at night, which I've seen them, you know, spot shine
<v Speaker 2>a spotlight on him, you can see him darting in.
<v Speaker 2>But this was obviously something way bigger than that. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I've heard stories from Fort Leonnerwood here in Missouri that's
<v Speaker 1>probably about fifty minutes from me, and their stories where
<v Speaker 1>they're out there doing patrol and they run into these
<v Speaker 1>things and there's definitely sasquatch out there because the Mark
<v Speaker 1>Twain National Forest surrounds that area, and they talk about
<v Speaker 1>trying to find missing people out there, and when they'd
<v Speaker 1>get on the trail, they'd find these huge tracks and
<v Speaker 1>just strange sign and it felt like something was paralleling them.
<v Speaker 1>They'd hear sticks breaking and trees being pushed, and they
<v Speaker 1>I remember the soldiers saying like they felt really small
<v Speaker 1>because whatever it was, there was nothing they could do
<v Speaker 1>because like when you're out in the woods, every move
<v Speaker 1>you make just you make so much noise when you're
<v Speaker 1>out there, even if you're trying so hard to be quiet,
<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to not like step on a twig
<v Speaker 1>or a stick or leaves or anything. And whatever this
<v Speaker 1>thing was was just doing circles around them.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's always a lot of activity around a military basis.
<v Speaker 2>I'm always on BFRO just every time I go, Oh,
<v Speaker 2>I hunt a lot, and I'll get on some other
<v Speaker 2>research I do too, but I'm always on there looking.
<v Speaker 1>I always hear bigfoot activity around Fort Larnwood in Missouri,
<v Speaker 1>Fort Knox, and Kentucky, and then and the one in Georgia.
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what that army base is called, but
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot of reports from there as well.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you sent me some photos of some tracks,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if the videos from Fort Knox,
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like there's a military play in the background.
<v Speaker 1>Do you have more experience and things that you found
<v Speaker 1>on were okay? Yeah, I'd love to hear about it.
<v Speaker 2>So this one is actually what I consider to be
<v Speaker 2>an eye sighting, But it was so split second that
<v Speaker 2>it's hard for me to like say that. But I'm
<v Speaker 2>I'm always looking out the window, like always looking for something.
<v Speaker 2>It's just always what I've done, and especially when I
<v Speaker 2>got into Bigfoot, I'm always have my eyes looking out.
<v Speaker 2>And there was a period of time where I was
<v Speaker 2>going out this is actually last year, maybe a little
<v Speaker 2>bit over a year, No, actually last year. Right around
<v Speaker 2>this time, I was going out to Colorado a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I had a X that lived out there, and we
<v Speaker 2>were hitting all of the local ski resorts and just
<v Speaker 2>going to a bunch of different ones. And this particular
<v Speaker 2>time we had went to Crested Butte Ski Resort, which
<v Speaker 2>is surrounded by Gunnison Valley National Forest, and there's right
<v Speaker 2>before you get into Crested Butte the ski resort, there's
<v Speaker 2>a big stream. They're all these in. The previous encounter
<v Speaker 2>was near water as well. This one there's a stream
<v Speaker 2>and it's a salmon hatchery and you're not allowed to
<v Speaker 2>go there during the winter. It's illegal to be in
<v Speaker 2>there at the hatchery fishing in the area. And I
<v Speaker 2>just thought it was interesting. I'm a big fisherman, so
<v Speaker 2>I just each time we'd drive over there for the weekend,
<v Speaker 2>I'd like be looking down at the water and this
<v Speaker 2>is you know out in Colorado, vast woods and mountains
<v Speaker 2>and lots of area where there's just no people other
<v Speaker 2>than the roads you travel on. And we were driving
<v Speaker 2>out of Crested Bute, I'd say it's about ten minutes outside,
<v Speaker 2>and we're about to pass the trout pattery and the
<v Speaker 2>trout hatchery is down the hill a little bit, and
<v Speaker 2>there's probably about like two or three streams that like
<v Speaker 2>mix in between each other within the woods and then
<v Speaker 2>the river. And I'm looking down there as we're driving,
<v Speaker 2>and I see something clear as day standing in the water.
<v Speaker 2>I'd say about up to its knees. I saw full shoulders.
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty far away, but looked to be like conical
<v Speaker 2>shaped head. I saw the head. I don't know if
<v Speaker 2>it was necessarily conical shaped, but I saw this thing,
<v Speaker 2>all black, jet black, standing in the water. You could
<v Speaker 2>see the arms down to its side, just standing there,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, holy crap, Like there was something standing
<v Speaker 2>in the water down there, and it was tall. I'd
<v Speaker 2>maybe say, you know, seven eight feet. I couldn't tell exactly,
<v Speaker 2>kind of far away, but it was tall, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>nobody's allowed to be down there. The hatcher's closed. It
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a fishing pole. It's just standing there. And
<v Speaker 2>first thing I should think of is like, holy crap,
<v Speaker 2>I just saw something and it looks to be like
<v Speaker 2>it might be just standing there looking for salmon to
<v Speaker 2>be swimming by grabbing them, and it is not far
<v Speaker 2>for it to jump into Gunnison National Forest. And so
<v Speaker 2>when this happened, I wasn't driving. I was in the
<v Speaker 2>passenger seat looking out the window and I was My
<v Speaker 2>ex was like, do you want me to turn around?
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, I kind of do it.
<v Speaker 2>This is a busy road and there was a lot
<v Speaker 2>of traffic and we ended up turning around and trying
<v Speaker 2>to find exactly like where I saw this thing, but
<v Speaker 2>there was absolutely no shoulder. We're kind of on like
<v Speaker 2>a cliff side in the way, and it just didn't
<v Speaker 2>make sense to pull over. But what I saw looked
<v Speaker 2>like head shoulders tall figure looked like a bigfoot standing
<v Speaker 2>in the water. Wow.
<v Speaker 1>That's truly incredible. And it makes sense why the sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>would be in that area because no one else is
<v Speaker 1>allowed to be in there that time of year, but
<v Speaker 1>also because of the food source. It was probably looking
<v Speaker 1>for a salmon like you said.
<v Speaker 2>M M, Yeah, I don't really have anything else with
<v Speaker 2>that one, but I just thought i'd mention it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely important to share, and I believe that's probably
<v Speaker 1>what it was like you said there there wouldn't be
<v Speaker 1>a fisherman in the creek, especially that time of year
<v Speaker 1>when no one else is allowed to be in there.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was exactly my thought too. And then if
<v Speaker 2>you want to can jump into what those pictures I
<v Speaker 2>sent you wor aldu well.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's hear about the photos of the tracks that
<v Speaker 1>you sent me.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So my dad and I started to get into
<v Speaker 2>some bigfoot researching after my encounter. We were both believers,
<v Speaker 2>but weren't like super into it. But each year we
<v Speaker 2>just get more and more into it, and we try
<v Speaker 2>in to a trip every year to go out and
<v Speaker 2>do some research for about a week or so, and
<v Speaker 2>we went all over BFRO. We ended up stubling upon
<v Speaker 2>town of Blackstone, Virginia, and we didn't really have a
<v Speaker 2>place to go there, but there was a there's like
<v Speaker 2>a little like trail area near there that has like
<v Speaker 2>a hot spot for encounters. So we're like, you know
<v Speaker 2>what we'd like Virginia, Let's go there. We end up
<v Speaker 2>just picking this like random spot that we tried to
<v Speaker 2>pick a spot that was far away from like where
<v Speaker 2>other people normally went, but still kind of had like
<v Speaker 2>a trail. And we found this old logging road that
<v Speaker 2>was like all not up kept, and it was right
<v Speaker 2>at a trailhead, but we didn't go on the trailhead.
<v Speaker 2>We took the old logging round. We took it up.
<v Speaker 2>We had never been in this area before. And in
<v Speaker 2>the pictures you saw of the plane, you can see
<v Speaker 2>how thick that vegetation is in there. It's extremely thick.
<v Speaker 2>Where that video was taken was actually in what I
<v Speaker 2>think was a feeding ground. So before we even got
<v Speaker 2>in there, we're walking and we're just like, all right,
<v Speaker 2>we can't really go anywhere else. There's like there's almost
<v Speaker 2>like a wall of trees, like you can't really get
<v Speaker 2>past it. We're like, dang, like that's like a like
<v Speaker 2>a natural barrier that's up here. Like there's definitely you know,
<v Speaker 2>you got to be cautious of bears and whatever else
<v Speaker 2>is hanging out in Virginia. But we're both carrying. We're
<v Speaker 2>just kind of walking this tree and I'm telling you,
<v Speaker 2>it's too thick to walk through. It's a natural barrier.
<v Speaker 2>Walking along, walking along, and I'm like, it looks like
<v Speaker 2>it kind of opens up here and it kind of
<v Speaker 2>turns into some pine trees. And what we were walking
<v Speaker 2>up on was what I guess to be the entrance
<v Speaker 2>to this feeding ground. And as soon as we got
<v Speaker 2>close to what that entrance was, you could hear four
<v Speaker 2>loud like like ground stomps. It was like boom doom,
<v Speaker 2>and it sounded like it was like running away, and
<v Speaker 2>immediately me and my dad both heard it. We didn't
<v Speaker 2>see anything, and we both like went to drawl our
<v Speaker 2>pistols because it sounded like something was charging us. But
<v Speaker 2>then it we realized it was kind of moving in
<v Speaker 2>the opposite direction and all we heard was doom, boom, doom.
<v Speaker 2>But what's unique about that sound is that the area
<v Speaker 2>in Blackstone, Virginia is it's kind of like a side.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a spongy ground, so it's not hard ground,
<v Speaker 2>and for something to be able to make that loud
<v Speaker 2>of a like sound in that side, it has to
<v Speaker 2>be big. Obviously, it could have been a bear, but
<v Speaker 2>we were both like, take off guard. I pull out
<v Speaker 2>my phone immediately because me and my dad this all
<v Speaker 2>planned out. Were like, all right, one person, if something
<v Speaker 2>comes out, grab the gun obviously for self protection, they
<v Speaker 2>don't want to shoot anything. But and then the other
<v Speaker 2>person to pull out their phone and get footage, because
<v Speaker 2>that always irks me when people talk about stuff they
<v Speaker 2>don't try and pull out their phone. And we never
<v Speaker 2>ended up seeing anything, but we walk into this patch
<v Speaker 2>and the real like eerie feeling in the air, especially
<v Speaker 2>after hearing that sound, and this patch in there was
<v Speaker 2>just littered with blueberries, natural blueberries, And the pictures I
<v Speaker 2>sent you were of countless track we found in there,
<v Speaker 2>just everywhere. And you can see those prints are barefootprints.
<v Speaker 2>The one in particular, you can just see the toes
<v Speaker 2>clear as day, the big toe, followed by the other
<v Speaker 2>four toes, the whole shape of the foot, and we
<v Speaker 2>were finding them everywhere. We didn't have any plaster. We
<v Speaker 2>actually went back to this location this year and weren't
<v Speaker 2>as lucky. You didn't find anything, but we found a
<v Speaker 2>ton of tracks in there, and I thought that was
<v Speaker 2>just cool in itself. You know, like you say a
<v Speaker 2>lot in your videos, you can't go out and expect
<v Speaker 2>to find things every time. So even if you're finding
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. It's just really cool and like rewarding.
<v Speaker 2>When we went back this year, that's the other photo
<v Speaker 2>I sent you of those weird tree structures. We went
<v Speaker 2>back to the same place because we're like, all right,
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna come back with plaster, and didn't end up
<v Speaker 2>finding like anything that this time, except for those weird
<v Speaker 2>branches all leaned up against those trees. And that was
<v Speaker 2>a different area somewhat closer there, and it looked like
<v Speaker 2>that was like a little nesting ground. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>what would be up in that area, first of all,
<v Speaker 2>because we're not on the trailhead, we're on a different trail.
<v Speaker 2>And then we got off the trail and just started
<v Speaker 2>walking into the woods just randomly, and we came across that,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, you can tell me, but that
<v Speaker 2>doesn't look like natural limbs falling. Those look purposefully stacked
<v Speaker 2>up against the trees, and there's a lot of sticks
<v Speaker 2>stacked up there. Also, surrounding that entire berry patch is
<v Speaker 2>tree breaks everywhere pointing down the hill away from the
<v Speaker 2>berry patch. I thought that was kind of unique. As
<v Speaker 2>we did a complete circle around it, all the tree
<v Speaker 2>breaks were facing away, So I don't know if that
<v Speaker 2>would the way they were facing was actually down towards
<v Speaker 2>the water, but I don't know if that's like reverse,
<v Speaker 2>like they're actually pointing up towards the bury patch, but
<v Speaker 2>they're all tree breaks like completely around it. But I
<v Speaker 2>think that's about all for that area that we did
<v Speaker 2>research there.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's amazing.
<v Speaker 1>And usually the tree breaks are pointing towards water or
<v Speaker 1>the arches, but that's not always the case. Sometimes it's
<v Speaker 1>pretty random and it's hard to gauge what was going on.
<v Speaker 1>But maybe it signals like where the sasquatch traveled in
<v Speaker 1>that point of time. And yeah, if they were stomping
<v Speaker 1>off as you guys approached the area, it's possibly doing it.
<v Speaker 1>It possibly did it on purpose so you guys would
<v Speaker 1>hear it, because usually the sasquatch, no matter how big
<v Speaker 1>they are, they're super quiet. They're dead silent, and I
<v Speaker 1>feel like they do the ground stomps or they run
<v Speaker 1>away and make a boom sound boom boom boom boom
<v Speaker 1>or thump thump thump thump on purpose to kind of
<v Speaker 1>freak you guys out. And I don't know, maybe it
<v Speaker 1>was trying to turn you guys from the area. Or
<v Speaker 1>worn other sasquatch in the area to get out of there.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the tracks are awesome. How big would you
<v Speaker 1>estimate those tracks to be.
<v Speaker 2>We actually brought the tape measure with us and the
<v Speaker 2>tracks all measured to be around ten to eleven inches,
<v Speaker 2>but they did vary in size, which makes me think
<v Speaker 2>that there was multiple there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and with the structures, the activity the tracks, it
<v Speaker 1>sounds like what other researchers would call like a nursery area.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just sounds like they were living there
<v Speaker 1>at that point in time. And you guys happened to
<v Speaker 1>walk inside the clans territory right in the center of it.
<v Speaker 2>We actually tried to push up on top of a
<v Speaker 2>hill and that ground that I was talking about that
<v Speaker 2>like sod stuff, it's actually growing over top of water.
<v Speaker 2>So we were on like the summit of this hill
<v Speaker 2>or mountain, whatever you want to call it, and we
<v Speaker 2>tried to push back in there, like you know what
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna carry. We're gonna go into the thick of
<v Speaker 2>this stuff and just try and see if we can
<v Speaker 2>find anything cool. It got to the point where we
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't go any further. We would sink like up
<v Speaker 2>to our knees, like absolutely, no one was going back there,
<v Speaker 2>and whatever does live back there can move through some
<v Speaker 2>thick stuff and like you're saying nursery, like it's safe
<v Speaker 2>up there for them. Yeah. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>Would you say the ground is kind of like I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've ever been to Oregon or Alaska,
<v Speaker 1>like where it's kind of fluffy with all the moss.
<v Speaker 3>Was it like that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just like I've never been there, but
<v Speaker 2>yeah it was spongy. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>For something to make a big sound like that, I
<v Speaker 1>mean it could have been a bear, But you guys
<v Speaker 1>found sasquatch tracks and structures, so I think you guys
<v Speaker 1>know what it was, and you guys were in there
<v Speaker 1>specifically because of the bigfoot reports. Is that correct that's
<v Speaker 1>what originally brought us there? Yes, yeah, I would say
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. And I don't know, it just
<v Speaker 1>sounds like they try to get out of the area.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like they just blined it and took
<v Speaker 1>off or do you think they just kept their distance
<v Speaker 1>and they were there the entire time?
<v Speaker 3>Like did you feel like you were being watched.
<v Speaker 2>When we went there the first time? I don't think
<v Speaker 2>they went very far. I think they were taken off guard.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think like obviously they realized we were there,
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think they expected us to find like
<v Speaker 2>their entry way into this little berry patch. And when
<v Speaker 2>we got close enough to that entrance, that's when the
<v Speaker 2>stomp happened. Like it's it's almost like too perfect, like
<v Speaker 2>that's definitely what happened. Whatever, whether it was a bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>or not, we got into their area and it was
<v Speaker 2>taken off guard, and I think it did watch us
<v Speaker 2>from a distance, because it felt eerie the whole time.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you guys snuck in, like snuck
<v Speaker 1>up on the Sasquatch. Yes, And you were on the trail, correct,
<v Speaker 1>You weren't just walking through the woods. I mean you
<v Speaker 1>were in the woods, but you weren't walking like on
<v Speaker 1>dead Fall and all that. You were like on a
<v Speaker 1>trail being quiet. Correct, No, we were, we were. We
<v Speaker 1>weren't on the trail at all.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we took an old logging trail up to a
<v Speaker 2>certain point and then we're like, let's just break off
<v Speaker 2>and head this way. But again, that ground is like
<v Speaker 2>you can't hear anything coming. This is how spongy it is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes sense. So you were being quiet either way,
<v Speaker 1>even though you were going through the forest.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, no, that makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>And I usually stay on the trails because here in
<v Speaker 1>Missouri everything's just like crunch crunch, smash smash. But you
<v Speaker 1>have the ground spongey, then you were definitely able to
<v Speaker 1>sneak up on them.
<v Speaker 2>M I forgot to mention. This is the last thing
<v Speaker 2>I'll say about it is when we went back, we
<v Speaker 2>set up a bunch of trail cameras too, and we
<v Speaker 2>stayed out there till like two in the morning, made
<v Speaker 2>a little fire to try and get some activity. But
<v Speaker 2>we weren't there long enough. I don't think we put
<v Speaker 2>enough time on it, but we at least gave it
<v Speaker 2>our best shot. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm sure the memories at Fort Knox were kicking
<v Speaker 1>back in when you went there and stayed the night.
<v Speaker 2>Definitely. I do have a possible encounter that my grandfather had.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a really quick one if you want me
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So this is actually in Pennsylvania town called jim Thorpe,
<v Speaker 2>really really old town. Lots of sightings there as well,
<v Speaker 2>but they date kind of further back. My grandfather been
<v Speaker 2>hunting is a whole whole life, and he is not
<v Speaker 2>afraid of anything. He he actually he goes out hunting
<v Speaker 2>for bear, and he goes out hunting for deer. And
<v Speaker 2>this was back around like two thousand and six, and
<v Speaker 2>he was up in a new area that they hadn't
<v Speaker 2>been in before. And he always likes to get in
<v Speaker 2>the woods super early, like a couple hours for the
<v Speaker 2>sun comes up, and he's sitting up against a tree
<v Speaker 2>and he started to get this stench of like a foul,
<v Speaker 2>foul odor, and it just I guess to him, he
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a bear. And he was sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and sitting there and he heard something like near him,
<v Speaker 2>kind of rustling around. The whole time, he's thinking bear.
<v Speaker 2>And then he heard a loud like guttural growl like
<v Speaker 2>actually not a growl, a roar like what from the
<v Speaker 2>videos I watch the way he explained to me, when
<v Speaker 2>he explained me to this story, I didn't say anything
<v Speaker 2>about bigfoot. I just wanted to hear what happened. And
<v Speaker 2>he told me this, and he I said, was it
<v Speaker 2>more of a growl or was it like a roar?
<v Speaker 2>And he said, no, it was a roar, and he
<v Speaker 2>said when he heard that, he has never been so
<v Speaker 2>scared in the woods his entire life. Not to mention,
<v Speaker 2>he's out there sometimes hunting for bears. So if he's
<v Speaker 2>hunting for bears, why would he be afraid of a
<v Speaker 2>bear while he's out there? And he told me that.
<v Speaker 2>I said, so, what did you do after this all?
<v Speaker 2>After you heard the growl or the roar and the
<v Speaker 2>smell and the sting near you? He said, well, he
<v Speaker 2>kind of was laughing while I said, He's like, when
<v Speaker 2>the sun came up, I went right back to the truck.
<v Speaker 2>I was done for the day. And I was like,
<v Speaker 2>I was like, so, isn't that kind of stand out
<v Speaker 2>to you? You know, you've been hunting your whole life.
<v Speaker 2>Why this time in particular, did you not want to
<v Speaker 2>stay out there and hunt the rest of the day
<v Speaker 2>like you you've always say you want to see a
<v Speaker 2>bear in the woods. He's like, I don't know. He's like,
<v Speaker 2>but I got the feeling to get the hell out
<v Speaker 2>of there, And I'm like, yep, I think you might
<v Speaker 2>have had an encounter with something a little bit different
<v Speaker 2>than a bear if you were feeling that way. And
<v Speaker 2>then you know, obviously, the stench and the roar kind
<v Speaker 2>of lines up there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's terrifying and it certainly does sound like Bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>Did you bring up bigfoot to your grandfather?
<v Speaker 2>I did bring it up to him afterwards, but he's
<v Speaker 2>kind of like man a few words. He he didn't
<v Speaker 2>write it off, but he.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't deny it, but he also didn't acknowledge it exactly. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>he's probably heard stories from other people throughout his life
<v Speaker 1>life and maybe didn't believe until he had that experience
<v Speaker 1>for himself.
<v Speaker 2>M hmm. Yeah. I just, uh, the more I learned
<v Speaker 2>about it, I try to ask and see if my
<v Speaker 2>uncle's big hunter too, ask him if he's haid weird
<v Speaker 2>stuff happened. But I'm always interested in hearing about that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. And there's a lot of reports
<v Speaker 1>from Pennsylvania, so it makes sense. And if you're hunting
<v Speaker 1>the game, you might put yourself right in the middle
<v Speaker 1>of a sasquatch clan. And not every hunter experiences this,
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of fishermen and outdoorsmen run into these things.
<v Speaker 3>It does happen.
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm. You never know, and it will happen absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>What are your plans in the future, do you plan
<v Speaker 1>on doing Bigfoot research or going back to any of
<v Speaker 1>those old areas that you've had experiences at.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, dead and I haven't really figured out where we're
<v Speaker 2>going to go next, but I think we're going to
<v Speaker 2>try in Pennsylvania just because it's closer. I actually went
<v Speaker 2>to school out towards Pittsburgh, which is like a huge
<v Speaker 2>hot spot. We're thinking about going out that way, which
<v Speaker 2>I did a lot of army training out that way
<v Speaker 2>and felt some eerie feelings in the woods there. But
<v Speaker 2>we're thinking either there or the middle Central PA. Kind
<v Speaker 2>of on the appellation.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds like an excellent area. Maybe you can
<v Speaker 1>look at the Bigfoot Mapping project and kind of get
<v Speaker 1>an idea. I doubt it has all the reports on
<v Speaker 1>there that's ever taken place, but I feel like it's
<v Speaker 1>got less than one percent of all the experiences that
<v Speaker 1>people have had because most people they don't want to
<v Speaker 1>talk about it. People take it to their grave, and
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to report it to the public. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure what we see on those maps, whether it's
<v Speaker 1>the BFRO or maps that people have created, it's just
<v Speaker 1>a very very small portion of the experiences that have happened.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Because I know a lot of locals around here where
<v Speaker 1>I live, and I hear stories all the time. They've
<v Speaker 1>never told to be a froro or when on a podcast,
<v Speaker 1>especially old timers, like they just don't do that. And
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people say, we don't talk about that
<v Speaker 1>or you don't want to share that because of the ridicule,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I feel like most reports go untold.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's definitely a big stigmatism around it, and that's
<v Speaker 2>what makes it so difficult to talk about it. And
<v Speaker 2>why is it that there's such a big stigmatism. Everybody
<v Speaker 2>wants to talk about aliens and all this other stuff,
<v Speaker 2>but for some reason, Bigfoot is For some people it
<v Speaker 2>seem so crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, I feel like the alien subject is
<v Speaker 1>more accepted than the sasquatch subject. And I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>if you watch Ancient Aliens, it seems like it's more
<v Speaker 1>serious and they have of high up people talking on
<v Speaker 1>the show. But then you watch shows like Finding Bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>in it it almost seems like Bigfoot's a joke. But
<v Speaker 1>to me, I don't know, I find Bigfoot more fascinating
<v Speaker 1>and like I actually have a chance of finding evidence
<v Speaker 1>compared to aliens.
<v Speaker 2>I've heard countless people say this on your show, But
<v Speaker 2>I really just think people live in this little fantasy
<v Speaker 2>land and they think that life is just a particularly
<v Speaker 2>in my area, going to wah Wah, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>you go out in the woods and you're you're at
<v Speaker 2>like a park or at at an extreme, you're going
<v Speaker 2>like up to the Pocono Mountains. But people don't really
<v Speaker 2>realize how much of the woods we don't go in,
<v Speaker 2>and how much thick woods there is, that things that
<v Speaker 2>are hiding, and like how much is unexplored. And I
<v Speaker 2>just think people are very naive to that. Oh yeah,
<v Speaker 2>for sure. And I mean you nailed on the head.
<v Speaker 2>People are certainly living in a fantasy land, and it's
<v Speaker 2>just the reality that has been built for people to survive,
<v Speaker 2>whether it's having electricity, pain insurance, having an eight to
<v Speaker 2>five job, and once all that collapses, if the power
<v Speaker 2>grid goes out, you're gonna be out there with the
<v Speaker 2>sasquatches and nature doesn't mess around, and you'll be at
<v Speaker 2>the mercy of it. M And I agree.
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like the military possibly trained you to
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, look for these creatures essentially, because you
<v Speaker 1>guys are out there looking for hominids. You're hunting down hominids,
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like you'd have a better chance than
<v Speaker 1>any other researcher since you were in the military and
<v Speaker 1>you've learned things that most people don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wasn't in infantry particularly, that's just kind of
<v Speaker 2>like what they based the training around for what I
<v Speaker 2>was doing. But I do think it teaches you some
<v Speaker 2>aspects not I haven't learned particularly. I would say I
<v Speaker 2>learned more about looking for anything in the woods from hunting.
<v Speaker 2>I grew up hunting as soon as I could at
<v Speaker 2>a very young age, so I've just I've kind of
<v Speaker 2>gotten attuned to being in the woods and how to
<v Speaker 2>stay quiet, how to keep your scent under control, and
<v Speaker 2>just always having a good eye around and picking up
<v Speaker 2>on noises and exactly. Yeah, a lot of that's something
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't have.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, a lot of people wouldn't realize
<v Speaker 1>there's a sasquatch standing right next to him, even if
<v Speaker 1>it smacked him on the back of the head.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, that's just how it is.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the researchers that I know were in
<v Speaker 1>the Middle Military and one of my friends, he was
<v Speaker 1>in the marine in the Marines. He loves looking for bigfoot.
<v Speaker 1>It's a passion of his. And he said, I was
<v Speaker 1>in the military for so long we would go out
<v Speaker 1>there hunting Iranians, and he said, after I got out
<v Speaker 1>of the military, it's like, what next. So he started
<v Speaker 1>looking for bigfoot. He's like, this is kind of the
<v Speaker 1>same thing. There's hominids roaming around the forest and you
<v Speaker 1>have to hunt them down, and I don't know. It
<v Speaker 1>kind of gave him something to do because he was
<v Speaker 1>so used to hunting down hominids humans and after the military,
<v Speaker 1>you come back to the States and back to normal
<v Speaker 1>life and it's like what now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was two things I wanted to tell you.
<v Speaker 2>They were like somewhat related. Uh. One thing was I
<v Speaker 2>heard you talking about kind of being down your luck
<v Speaker 2>about getting a deer, and trust me that I know
<v Speaker 2>that feeling. I just got my first buck this year,
<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you what it was meant to be
<v Speaker 2>when I happened, and I have had I have had
<v Speaker 2>so many opportunities where I could have put down a
<v Speaker 2>big buck and it just didn't work, or whether I
<v Speaker 2>missed or it caught me, caught the wind to me
<v Speaker 2>and turned around. I just wanted to say, don't give
<v Speaker 2>up hope yet and just keep trying at it and
<v Speaker 2>you'll get the one that counts.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I appreciate that, man, And yeah, that means a lot.
<v Speaker 1>I've missed a lot of big bucks, honestly, like most
<v Speaker 1>of the huge bucks that I've seen, like you said,
<v Speaker 1>they've even either winded me, or I'm walking to my
<v Speaker 1>stand and there right there and they took off running
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, like I just completely miss and
<v Speaker 1>don't find any hair, any blood and nothing, and it
<v Speaker 1>just makes it just leaves you scratching your head, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm definitely not giving up. And I'm just
<v Speaker 1>going to try better and try to prepare I guess
<v Speaker 1>mentally and physically.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, definitely don't give up. You'll you'll get your
<v Speaker 2>good opportunity. I'm hanging on the wall.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>And I just like being out there, and I just
<v Speaker 1>don't get a thrill going after does or young bucks.
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people say it's about the meat,
<v Speaker 1>but for me, it's like that's a little bitty deer,
<v Speaker 1>like he still has a lot of years to live,
<v Speaker 1>like there's no point in taking it out, or that
<v Speaker 1>dough might put out a huge monster one day, and
<v Speaker 1>that's the way I think. I'm not going out there
<v Speaker 1>just for horns or putting something on the wall. But
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's like, don't shoot the little ones,
<v Speaker 1>Like definitely going out mature yeah, but it's also harder.
<v Speaker 2>I like the challenge, yeah, because those those mature bucks,
<v Speaker 2>they're not easy. And that's the same way I looked
<v Speaker 2>at it, as like I've had little bucks walk up,
<v Speaker 2>not like saying I'm passing up on like a six pointer,
<v Speaker 2>but I look at it the same way you do.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's the last day, the last evening,
<v Speaker 1>I see a dough or a young buck, I'm definitely
<v Speaker 1>gonna blast it. But it's as far as the entire
<v Speaker 1>bow hunt and the rifle season, I'm going after something big,
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like if I can get on the
<v Speaker 1>huge deer, like I can definitely figure out more about
<v Speaker 1>the sasquatch because I've learned through my years of research,
<v Speaker 1>and like white tail research, like the sasquatch like to
<v Speaker 1>be where the big mature bucks are at, which is
<v Speaker 1>away from all the does, all the young bucks, all
<v Speaker 1>the human pressure areas that nobody ever goes to where
<v Speaker 1>the food and water's at, and they definitely follow the waterways.
<v Speaker 2>That's smart. Never thought about it that way. That does
<v Speaker 2>make sense.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the big mature bucks they want to live
<v Speaker 1>in isolation and yeah, they like they have like the
<v Speaker 1>bachelor groups, but they don't want to be around all
<v Speaker 1>the does because they're constantly blowing and freaking out over
<v Speaker 1>every squirrel that drops an acorn, and they don't like
<v Speaker 1>to be spook constantly.
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why you see them like during the rut,
<v Speaker 1>because they're coming out of those deep areas or not
<v Speaker 1>not even deep areas, just weird little nooks and crannies
<v Speaker 1>that nobody ever goes through, and then they're coming out
<v Speaker 1>looking for those dos, doing what they would normally never do.
<v Speaker 1>And it makes sense. That's when us men get in
<v Speaker 1>trouble when we're following, when.
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I was saying when you were saying that,
<v Speaker 2>I was saying they don't want to be around the women.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the same is true for the sasquatch when they're
<v Speaker 1>looking for food or a female, like they just get
<v Speaker 1>caught out in the open.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and we don't really know like when they're
<v Speaker 2>mating season really is or I mean maybe there's ideas,
<v Speaker 2>but well.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like some of those roadside crossings, like where
<v Speaker 1>someone just sees a sasquatch cross the road right in
<v Speaker 1>front of their vehicle, like it was probably following a
<v Speaker 1>female because most of the time like that sasquatch has
<v Speaker 1>probably never been seen once in its entire life, and
<v Speaker 1>for some reason it gave away its position and didn't care.
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of how those bigger bucks are. It's like, man,
<v Speaker 1>it just walked right in front of my vehicle. It
<v Speaker 1>didn't even run, like it just walked like it was
<v Speaker 1>following some doze or something and it didn't care.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you have to draw correlations like that because
<v Speaker 2>you know, we only can use what we know and
<v Speaker 2>what we have, and that's what we know. And when
<v Speaker 2>you start to put it together, it starts to make sense.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, until you experience the supernatural with the sasquatch,
<v Speaker 1>then it doesn't make sense anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, then there's that aspect.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think about that? I know you
<v Speaker 1>didn't mention any of that in your experiences. But do
<v Speaker 1>you think they have supernatural abilities or do you think
<v Speaker 1>they're just purely physical creatures that have been discovered.
<v Speaker 2>I'm really on the fence about that one, but I
<v Speaker 2>feel like you can't negate that there's some part of
<v Speaker 2>it that I don't know if I want to use
<v Speaker 2>the word supernatural, but something we can't explain, Like there's
<v Speaker 2>some there's some aspect of sasquatch that is different than
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the animals that are in the woods.
<v Speaker 2>It has some ability, and I don't know what that is,
<v Speaker 2>but I think whatever that ability is that makes it different.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you want to use the word supernatural or yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's a good word supernatural, because it's unnatural to us.
<v Speaker 2>But whatever that is, I think is why it's not
<v Speaker 2>being talked about, and that's why the government, which I
<v Speaker 2>think is fully involved in covering that up. Whatever that is,
<v Speaker 2>they don't want us to know. But I do think
<v Speaker 2>in its physical form, it is somewhat of a mixture
<v Speaker 2>of what an ape would be, some characteristics of a human.
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's either or it's its own thing.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I exactly have a word for it.
<v Speaker 2>But I just think it has qualities of both, but
<v Speaker 2>it's its own thing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're the first person that's ever given the theory
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty much identical to my theory. Like it's definitely primate,
<v Speaker 1>Like it's definitely like a person and their physical creatures,
<v Speaker 1>like they leave droppings, they leave sign and they may
<v Speaker 1>and have little ones. But also there's something supernatural or otherworldly.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you'd call it, just maybe there's
<v Speaker 1>just no classification for it, but something that is causing
<v Speaker 1>the government to keep this secrecy under wraps so nobody
<v Speaker 1>figures out what's truly going on. And I feel like
<v Speaker 1>that's true as well. And I mean, just because we
<v Speaker 1>can't see gravity doesn't make it supernatural. I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>but it's definitely difficult to understand or grasp. And it's
<v Speaker 1>the same way with black holes and white holes. And
<v Speaker 1>I feel like whatever the Sasquat, the Aliens, the other
<v Speaker 1>cryptids paranormal activity is doing, it revolves around that. And
<v Speaker 1>people mention like portals other dimensions, and that could be true.
<v Speaker 1>There's gotta be a reason why people don't just find bones,
<v Speaker 1>the tracks disappear, these things just yep. I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>seem to have abilities that, like you said, regular animals
<v Speaker 1>and the Animal Kingdom do not have. But I definitely
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed your experiences. When you were talking about the Fort
<v Speaker 1>Knox encounter, I felt like I was right there with you.
<v Speaker 1>You did such an excellent job at describing that encounter.
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was right there with you in
<v Speaker 1>a sleeping bag and this thing snuck up on us
<v Speaker 1>and You're the only one awake, and I was probably
<v Speaker 1>the one snoring and didn't wake up.
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. I appreciate that, and I think that's
<v Speaker 2>why I've stuck with your channels, because I just see
<v Speaker 2>this the same way you do. And I'm definitely gonna
<v Speaker 2>shoot you some questions here and there that I think
<v Speaker 2>we're both get a good thought provoking provocation out of.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, thank you for having me on. I'm really
<v Speaker 2>happy that I finally got to get this encounter out there.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like a weight off my shoulders because I've
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do this for so long, but it just
<v Speaker 2>it was finally right to.
<v Speaker 1>Do it now, absolutely, and I'm glad that it was
<v Speaker 1>therapeutic for you and a lot of people report feeling
<v Speaker 1>a lot better after they share their encounter, like they're
<v Speaker 1>not carrying that weight, because when you have an experience
<v Speaker 1>like this, it's just like, oh, you don't want to
<v Speaker 1>tell that person. You don't want to tell that person,
<v Speaker 1>they'll think you're crazy. Or maybe you meet a partner
<v Speaker 1>it's like should I tell her? And you carry that
<v Speaker 1>with you forever. And when you get to talk with
<v Speaker 1>somebody who has seen these things, who understands, it's like
<v Speaker 1>you handed that weight off your shoulders and you feel
<v Speaker 1>better because you spoke with somebody who understands. And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'll share those photos that you sent over to me
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. I also put them like on Facebook, Instagram,
<v Speaker 1>the community, post on YouTube so people can see them,
<v Speaker 1>and I'll tack the podcast along with it.
<v Speaker 2>Awesome, that sounds great. Yeah, thank you, Miguel.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much. And feel free to reach
<v Speaker 1>out anytime. And if you're ever in Missouri and you
<v Speaker 1>want to go camping and looking for woodburgers, let me know, man.
<v Speaker 2>That would be awesome. I'll definitely let you know.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds good, And in the meantime, you take
<v Speaker 1>care of yourself and I hope the best for you.
<v Speaker 2>Man. Thanks Miguel, you two all sure to be watching
<v Speaker 2>your videos.
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. You take care, Okay, all right, thanks
<v Speaker 1>for having that. Yeah you too, Caine. Thank you for
<v Speaker 1>coming on the show and sharing these experiences from Kentucky, Colorado, Virginia,
<v Speaker 1>and Pennsylvania. What you described from the patrol base encounter
<v Speaker 1>to the creek sighting and the family history tied into
<v Speaker 1>this phenomenon paints a powerful picture for everyone listening. If
<v Speaker 1>you've had an experience of your own and want to
<v Speaker 1>share your story on the podcast, you can reach out
<v Speaker 1>to me at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. Until
<v Speaker 1>next time, stay safe and keep your eyes on the woodline.