Splinter Cell Remake Still in Development

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<v Speaker 1>with me Jeff Grubb Today, what is going on with
<v Speaker 1>splinter Cell and Nintendo is asking players to keep a secret.
<v Speaker 1>But first, please join me in welcoming today's co host
<v Speaker 1>the Game Mess Mornings. It's Dave Kline. Everybody, Dave, how
<v Speaker 1>are you doing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. Been playing a lot of games, too
<v Speaker 2>many games. Yeah, that's never bad.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's what's like? What's been keeping you most busy recently?
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I'm about doing with Echoes of Wisdom. Before that,
<v Speaker 2>I finished Astrobots. I was playing in Plucky Squire, and
<v Speaker 2>I actually, I think I have the same sentiment as
<v Speaker 2>you about Plucky Squire though.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I kill a lot of people kind
<v Speaker 1>of settle in there where it's like, yeah, interesting, but
<v Speaker 1>maybe not super fun to play.
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, maybe like a seven year old
<v Speaker 2>perfect game.
<v Speaker 1>Ye, I imagine it. Actually it's a good kids game.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, perfect great kids game, but not too engaging.
<v Speaker 1>For us. Yeah, exactly.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and I'm super excited because Metaphor comes out
<v Speaker 2>today and hopefully it gets delivered to me today. So
<v Speaker 2>and I played first Berserker Kazan. I played the beta.
<v Speaker 1>Oh you did? Okay? How was that?
<v Speaker 2>It was Sakiro. It's just it's sakuo. But that's what
<v Speaker 2>I want, you know, less refined saki thro. So it's
<v Speaker 2>it's good. It's like it's honestly, it's more punishing. It
<v Speaker 2>was pretty brutal difficulty wise, especially like the bosses. Every
<v Speaker 2>boss is just brutal. But hey, if you like that
<v Speaker 2>type of reward structure, it is.
<v Speaker 1>There for you. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it. I had fun, I very much.
<v Speaker 1>Uh. I think I could be in the mood for that,
<v Speaker 1>especially after a beta where they probably tune things down
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit and kind of get it in
<v Speaker 1>the right place for a wide release. Do you think
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance of that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I mean tuned down, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I mean I feel like some things were pretty sloppy
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like I feel like they didn't feel refined,
<v Speaker 2>and it was a very early beta, so I hope
<v Speaker 2>that they fix those, like just enemy attacks and then
<v Speaker 2>feel quite snappy enough, especially when you're trying to read
<v Speaker 2>and react to things. But the bosses were super brutally difficult.
<v Speaker 2>I played. I'm a soul's guide, That's what I'm known for,
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, like, I don't know, I doubt they
<v Speaker 2>tuned it down for the beta.
<v Speaker 1>So maybe after the response from the beta, I'm hoping
<v Speaker 1>they might tune it down for the final release. Do
<v Speaker 1>you think there's a chance of that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess we'll see, because I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's I guess it's like Shadow of the ur Tree
<v Speaker 2>where that came out and everyone was like, the final
<v Speaker 2>boss is way too insanely difficult, and they tuned it down.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, right, I guess we'll see.
<v Speaker 1>We will see either way. You know, I might be
<v Speaker 1>in the mood for something brutally difficult right now. That
<v Speaker 1>sounds good. Uh yeah, I'm I'm still working through eCos
<v Speaker 1>Wisdom myself, trying to uh get through that. It's hardly
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff taking up my time. But I'm
<v Speaker 1>really enjoying that game quite a bit. Where'd you fall
<v Speaker 1>down or would you fall on it? In the end?
<v Speaker 1>In terms of what you thought of.
<v Speaker 2>It, I like it. It's very fun. It's actually I
<v Speaker 2>think my biggest pro about it is it hooked me
<v Speaker 2>right away a lot of games taking me a couple
<v Speaker 2>of hours to get into. But I think I fall
<v Speaker 2>in the line of feeling like there's too many things,
<v Speaker 2>there's too many echoes, just because yeah, I always know
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I need to do when I get to
<v Speaker 2>a puzzle, and it's just like takes me like a
<v Speaker 2>minute to get to the thing that I need to use,
<v Speaker 2>and as every single thing in the game constantly, So
<v Speaker 2>I like it. It's just not like one of my
<v Speaker 2>top z eli games. So it's probably like one of
<v Speaker 2>my top ten games of the year still, but it's
<v Speaker 2>not like up there it's like top five. I don't
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's a good game. It's fun.
<v Speaker 1>You see that. What do you think I could see that? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably where I'm going to end up
<v Speaker 1>as well, where it's uh. I think that the sort
<v Speaker 1>of the brunt of the game is really good. That
<v Speaker 1>just like the a thesis statement of hey, here is
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff, and here's a world where you
<v Speaker 1>can go around and do whatever you want with that stuff,
<v Speaker 1>including you know, jumping over these trees and taking these
<v Speaker 1>shortcuts and the open world, and you could do your
<v Speaker 1>exploration at your own pace if you really want to,
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll guide you back into the story when
<v Speaker 1>you're ready for it. I think all that stuff works
<v Speaker 1>really well, and then the specifics of the dungeons and
<v Speaker 1>the puzzles, I think it leaves a little bit to
<v Speaker 1>be desired, just a little bit more refinement. I think
<v Speaker 1>we would have been would have gone a long way there.
<v Speaker 1>It's just a really good game that is kind of
<v Speaker 1>waiting for that extra polish to be a great game.
<v Speaker 1>I think so. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think part of it for me too
<v Speaker 2>is you kind of just find your five things that
<v Speaker 2>work for you and there's no reason to stray from it.
<v Speaker 2>It's like I found Crawley Spider Boy who goes up things,
<v Speaker 2>and I attached to it, and it's like, Okay, I
<v Speaker 2>can go up everywhere I need to. There's no reason
<v Speaker 2>to use anything else.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>There's never anything better than the bed for going long
<v Speaker 2>distances that I've gotten. So it's like, I mean, I
<v Speaker 2>guess you can shoot something and attached to it, but
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just like you find your things and
<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, well, why why change what I'm doing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then the way I play games is very
<v Speaker 1>much like I should be willing to be creative here.
<v Speaker 1>So but that that gets the situations where it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get too cute and this idea is
<v Speaker 1>not going to actually work. I'll just revert to the
<v Speaker 1>thing that I know will work. But yeah, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Once I started doing the kind of that first stream
<v Speaker 1>we did here, I started hitting start to bring up
<v Speaker 1>the menu so I could see everything. That made it
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more convenient to to like get to
<v Speaker 1>get through and try some different things. But yeah, people
<v Speaker 1>are they're saying there's too many echoes. I don't think
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to argue with that. Yeah, it's it's a
<v Speaker 1>little bit difficult to sort of keep all that in mind.
<v Speaker 1>And then the answer to that for everybody is, well,
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to use the things I know work.
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's completely fair.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a matter of what do you like.
<v Speaker 2>And I was talking a bit to enough fellow gamespawn
<v Speaker 2>play Max Bloomenthal, who's like Zeldig, especially Breath of the
<v Speaker 2>Wild guy. He loves playing with those types of mechanics
<v Speaker 2>and physics sessions and stuff like that. And I think
<v Speaker 2>for him that's great having all those echoes. For me,
<v Speaker 2>I prefer less mechanics but more thoughtfulness around those mechanics. Yeah, because,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, get to a puzzle in the game,
<v Speaker 2>it's like there's ten different ways to do it. That's cool,
<v Speaker 2>But then it's just an easy puzzle to solve because
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, move on, got it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And I think half of that is the
<v Speaker 1>puzzles themselves. Though they could be more interesting, they could
<v Speaker 1>be more challenging, they could be I don't know, a
<v Speaker 1>lot of them just felt like very vanilla like, very
<v Speaker 1>obvious puzzles that barely seem to be engaging with the
<v Speaker 1>mechanics themselves. All right, let's explain what we do here
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<v Speaker 1>all Right, Let's keep going here. Splinter Cell remake is
<v Speaker 1>still and developed and will be released in twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 1>According to a rumor. This is from Jonas Mackey at
<v Speaker 1>Game Reactor. It has been three years since you've Besoft
<v Speaker 1>announced splinter Cell remake, but the total silence surrounding the
<v Speaker 1>project and Ubisofts many recent difficulties have led some to
<v Speaker 1>worry that it may have been canceled, But according to
<v Speaker 1>Insider Gaming, this is nothing to be concerned about. They
<v Speaker 1>write that their sources say that the work on the
<v Speaker 1>work on the contrary is rolling along nicely and that
<v Speaker 1>the project goes under the working name NORRIF and is
<v Speaker 1>currently still a going concern. It is apparently being developed
<v Speaker 1>with Massive Entertainment's game engine Snowdrop, which has been used
<v Speaker 1>in more and more of their games recently, where previous
<v Speaker 1>games in the series were created with Unreal Engine that
<v Speaker 1>was like Unreal Engine two though that was like very
<v Speaker 1>early stuff. Insider Gaming also writes that they have received
<v Speaker 1>information that splinter Cell Remake will be released in twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, and given that the development was freshly started
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one, this would mean a development time
<v Speaker 1>of five years, which is not that exceptional anymore. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all that sounds about right, you know. I guess it's
<v Speaker 1>good to get a sign of life that splinter Cell's
<v Speaker 1>still coming along. We were talking before the show, Dave
<v Speaker 1>that this is a game that is right for a remake.
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it will be a good use of
<v Speaker 1>their time, you know where there is some conversation right now,
<v Speaker 1>especially when people are looking over at PlayStation be like, man,
<v Speaker 1>you're doing a lot of remakes, but I think there's
<v Speaker 1>some remix that people still very much want, and I
<v Speaker 1>think this one falls into that category of please actually
<v Speaker 1>make this happen, even if it's doesn't end up being
<v Speaker 1>a fresh start for splinter Cell, where now we get
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of new splinter Cell games because this one
<v Speaker 1>did so well, people just want any splinter Cell at all.
<v Speaker 1>And I personally think if we can get some real
<v Speaker 1>real time ray trace lighting into the original splinter Cell game,
<v Speaker 1>that would be a match made in heaven. So I
<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot of fun possibilities here. What do
<v Speaker 1>you think?
<v Speaker 2>I disagree. I think Horizon is the remake people really.
<v Speaker 1>Want, you know what, Yeah, I didn't want to say it.
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you did.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, so, Yach, you know that's what we're really
<v Speaker 2>all then clamoring for, and I'm glad we're getting it. Look, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think as you said we were talking about before
<v Speaker 2>the show, and splinterself sounds like the perfect game for
<v Speaker 2>an update. I mean, last time I played the game
<v Speaker 2>is probably twenty plus years ago, but I think that's
<v Speaker 2>a sign that it especially for a stealth game. There's
<v Speaker 2>a lot you can do with a stealth style game
<v Speaker 2>to up the ante, make it more intense, especially as
<v Speaker 2>you said with ray trace lighting. I mean, plus is
<v Speaker 2>like cool three green mask, right, Like that's perfect, perfect
<v Speaker 2>for it. So I think'd be great, And I don't think.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people were so worried after three
<v Speaker 2>years of not hearing anything. In this day and age,
<v Speaker 2>It's like look at Alan Fantasy fifteen took ten years
<v Speaker 2>to make, yep, perfect Dark disappeared off the face of
<v Speaker 2>the earth for a while and now it's back. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>games take a long time to make, so it's yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's when I when I think about, like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>would you'd be soft, and like what like would make
<v Speaker 1>sense for them? I get why it's like, Okay, at
<v Speaker 1>the first blush, you think splinter Cell doesn't fit with
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff they've been doing. They want to
<v Speaker 1>have an assassin's creed game that they can release every
<v Speaker 1>year or maybe even more frequently than that. They have
<v Speaker 1>so many Assassin's Creed, Franchi franchise products and the works,
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, can splinter sell match that. Maybe not,
<v Speaker 1>But I mean when we start looking around at like
<v Speaker 1>what games are popping off right now. Obviously still there
<v Speaker 1>are some multiplayer games that do well, but that also
<v Speaker 1>seems like a riskier proposition than ever. And then it's
<v Speaker 1>very difficult to make a new franchise that can match
<v Speaker 1>Assassin's Creeds or Assassin Creeds ability to sell. So people
<v Speaker 1>do want single player games, and I think if they
<v Speaker 1>put enough effort into splinter Cell, it could be one
<v Speaker 1>of these ones that really does very well for them.
<v Speaker 1>So I think them sticking with it and giving it
<v Speaker 1>the like full five year development cycle could end up
<v Speaker 1>being very promising. What do you think?
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? I mean, it's also I feel like Ubisoft hasn't
<v Speaker 2>been doing as well lately, right.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, the recent the very rocky road for in
<v Speaker 1>these past few months.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I mean this is probably just anything that's
<v Speaker 2>different for them is a good idea. And this is
<v Speaker 2>as you said, it's super safe. Bet. It's a game
<v Speaker 2>that has a long running franchise. People like it remakes
<v Speaker 2>are doing well right now. I mean, yeah, it's the
<v Speaker 2>perfect idea. I don't know why they would drop it.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>So it's a good timing, great idea. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the sign is okay or the sign of
<v Speaker 1>life is here. It's still in development. They have a
<v Speaker 1>you know, code name from it for it, and they
<v Speaker 1>even have a release date in mind of twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 1>Does that twenty twenty six release year window give you
<v Speaker 1>more confidence or does that feel like, well, they're yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's so easy to say at the end of twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty four that this game might come out in twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, But that also might make it feel like
<v Speaker 1>wiggily like, oh yeah, maybe it could come out. But
<v Speaker 1>if we have to it again or cancel it, we
<v Speaker 1>can still have plenty of time to do that. What
<v Speaker 1>do you think, I.
<v Speaker 2>Mean, I don't. I don't know why a remake would
<v Speaker 2>take five years in the first place. Honestly, it is
<v Speaker 2>because a little like you're doing totally new design. So
<v Speaker 2>to me, twenty twenty six seems pretty realistic. But at
<v Speaker 2>the same time, like you said, I mean, they could
<v Speaker 2>always just push it again. But ye honestly, why not.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's nice that it has a date.
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily like take this as gospel though, and
<v Speaker 1>like there could be a million things that go wrong
<v Speaker 1>and we could find we could hear, you know, late
<v Speaker 1>next year it's like, oh no, no, all that splinter self stuff,
<v Speaker 1>Like sure they were thinking it at the time, but
<v Speaker 1>stuff's gone wrong. The people that were working on it
<v Speaker 1>got conscripted to work on some Assassin's Creed project, and
<v Speaker 1>so that got put off to the side. It's on
<v Speaker 1>a shelf. It's not completely canceled, like I could just
<v Speaker 1>hear that in my head already. But again, it.
<v Speaker 2>Also be like a residieval for style, a remake where
<v Speaker 2>it's like just totally round up it does.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like if it's taken five years, it must
<v Speaker 1>be that, right, Like what other explanation is I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we also do here, like these companies frequently talk about, hey,
<v Speaker 1>why are you remaking Last of Us Part one? Instead
<v Speaker 1>of uncharged it wouldn't make more sense to do on Charter, Like, well,
<v Speaker 1>on Charted, it's just a little bit older, and being
<v Speaker 1>a little bit older means it's a lot more work
<v Speaker 1>to actually remake that Meanwhile, last of us part one,
<v Speaker 1>we just got to do this. We replace these models,
<v Speaker 1>make a few other changes, and it cost us a
<v Speaker 1>lot less money to remake that.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, to be fair, like you hear stories all
<v Speaker 2>the time about companies losing the source code, which is
<v Speaker 2>crazy to me, But like that's the case with Silent Hill, right,
<v Speaker 2>Like that happened with Silent Hill, if I remember correctly,
<v Speaker 2>which is why that original remake was so bad that
<v Speaker 2>people hated so much.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe that's the case with Splin or Cell
<v Speaker 2>who knows.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, And you know, if they are going all out
<v Speaker 1>with this one, it is right in line with what
<v Speaker 1>everyone's always says. All these developers always say, it's like
<v Speaker 1>a game from that generation, from that era. If we
<v Speaker 1>are going to remake it, it really will re require
<v Speaker 1>a lot of effort, a lot of resources, and so
<v Speaker 1>five years. I hope that when we do finally see it,
<v Speaker 1>it really lives up to it because I'm in the
<v Speaker 1>mood for Splinter so I always really liked that first game.
<v Speaker 1>I played a handful of the other games, but I
<v Speaker 1>really liked that first one. Him doing the splits in
<v Speaker 1>the hallway while someone walked underneath and you shoot out
<v Speaker 1>a light excuse me, shootout a light and then you
<v Speaker 1>just take the guy out. That's a good time. Want
<v Speaker 1>to do more of that. So looking forward to it
<v Speaker 1>and if they can make it feel like a modern
<v Speaker 1>game again, I think this is one that can do
<v Speaker 1>excellent for them. But we have to wait and see
<v Speaker 1>next one here. This has been going around this past week,
<v Speaker 1>but since we're on this topic of remix and the
<v Speaker 1>kinds of remix that people want, I figured I bring
<v Speaker 1>this one up. God of War Remastered collection. It has
<v Speaker 1>apparently maybe leaked. It makes a lot of sense that
<v Speaker 1>the first of all, the franchise is going to be
<v Speaker 1>twenty years old here pretty soon. Second, if you looked
<v Speaker 1>at some of the data that leaked because of the
<v Speaker 1>Insomniac hack, there was information about like how many games
<v Speaker 1>or like which games were the most played on the
<v Speaker 1>cloud streaming service that they have, and God of the
<v Speaker 1>God of War games, the original God of War games
<v Speaker 1>were always among the most played, so they know that
<v Speaker 1>there's a huge popularity there even before the twenty eighteen ones,
<v Speaker 1>which of course there is, but seems like they're the
<v Speaker 1>demand might be even higher than we realized and so
<v Speaker 1>them like being Okay, let's take those games, remaster them,
<v Speaker 1>put them all in maybe one collection, maybe two volume collections,
<v Speaker 1>something like that would make a lot of sense. And
<v Speaker 1>I think people would be very welcoming of this kind
<v Speaker 1>of remaster r because we're talking twenty years We're not
<v Speaker 1>talking you know, seven years ago.
<v Speaker 2>Right absolutely. You know, I've actually I've still never played
<v Speaker 2>God of War one through three.
<v Speaker 1>Those those are really good games. Those are really good games.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's got the audience and I yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I agree. As soon as it's like the twenty year mark,
<v Speaker 2>when you get before the PS three era, I think
<v Speaker 2>it's like, those are the games that people actually want
<v Speaker 2>to make of. Yeah, great, Yeah, I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>else to say. Great, I'm glad if the league is true?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great, exactly what the wait and say? I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. It feels like an easy one. They
<v Speaker 1>do need more stuff, they need more content out. And also,
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of love for God of
<v Speaker 1>War right now, because at twenty eighteen of Ragnarok, why
<v Speaker 1>not be like, oh, hey, for those of you that
<v Speaker 1>didn't play that, here's this, and then for those of
<v Speaker 1>you who remember these things, fondly. Here's a chance to
<v Speaker 1>play them again. Apparently it would be you know, again,
<v Speaker 1>in some form, maybe in one collection, but maybe two.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe each game gets released individually, but it would be
<v Speaker 1>like the entire Greek saga, which would be one, two, three,
<v Speaker 1>the two PSP games, and then Ascension, so six games.
<v Speaker 2>It makes me wonder what people who only play modern
<v Speaker 2>God of War will think of the original games.
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably think, wow, this one's fun. Not think God
<v Speaker 1>War's fun, but boy, the original God of War games
<v Speaker 1>are just fun, like that's all they're going for.
<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, they're also a different style of action game. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>you know there's still like that his Inferno style of
<v Speaker 2>action gameplay, but Arcadi style, so which is great. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of fun, but it's different. So that's
<v Speaker 2>where I'm curious to see what a new audience will think.
<v Speaker 1>I bet my money would be put on a new
<v Speaker 1>audience going back to those without much expectation would be like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this is way funner and way way better than I
<v Speaker 1>thought it would be because I thought it would be
<v Speaker 1>kind of old. And I go and play this and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's different and it is just kind of a straight
<v Speaker 1>up action game, but it's actually incredibly cinematic. And then
<v Speaker 1>in between those cinematic moments, which of course the series
<v Speaker 1>was famous for, the combo system is just super solid,
<v Speaker 1>and like you know, they had Capcom Street Fighter developers
<v Speaker 1>come in and help them get the combo system right
<v Speaker 1>from the get go in God of War one, so that, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of crushed originally.
<v Speaker 2>Was it the same guy who made Dante's Inferno. Did
<v Speaker 2>he help out with this because he basically tailored he
<v Speaker 2>was the one who made that system in the first place.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's like the you know, Dante's
<v Speaker 1>Inferno goy or you said Dante's Yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>That was another action game that came out like that,
<v Speaker 2>But I kept on meaning to say.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Dante's the name of the character from Devilmaycry. It's
<v Speaker 1>why it's easy to mix that up. Yeah, so, uh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that they wasn't like the Devil May Cry guy,
<v Speaker 1>but there was Devil May Cry guys that might have
<v Speaker 1>helped out with that. And then it was definitely like
<v Speaker 1>some people that had worked on Street Fighter two's combo system,
<v Speaker 1>like over time coming in and helping out.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember this. There's also the
<v Speaker 2>Dante's Infernal game Oh yeah, totally, which was also yeah,
<v Speaker 2>which was the same style too, So that's probably what
<v Speaker 2>was in my brain.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure. Yeah. That that famously had e A
<v Speaker 1>pay a bunch of weird marketing firms to come out
<v Speaker 1>and uh and protest gaming events and be like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>you're all going to hell. And it was actually just
<v Speaker 1>like a prank protest so they can market their game,
<v Speaker 1>and it was really dumb. They also sent checks the
<v Speaker 1>game reviewers like be like, oh, are you going to
<v Speaker 1>give in to greed one of the seven Deadly Sins?
<v Speaker 1>And it's like okay, And then some people are like,
<v Speaker 1>some people, I'm gonna burn this check. How dare you?
<v Speaker 1>It's like, now you're just giving them free marketing. Uh, okay,
<v Speaker 1>dante Sinferno. That's the best act character action game of
<v Speaker 1>all time. Everybody, I don't care what you say. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's keep moving here. Xbox games will soon be sold
<v Speaker 1>in a new place. From Eddie McCoo at GameSpot that
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, this headline makes it sound like it's
<v Speaker 1>in the back of a Volkswagen is where they're going
<v Speaker 1>to be sold. But now in response to a recent
<v Speaker 1>court rule, Microsoft has announced that Xbox fans will soon
<v Speaker 1>be able to purchase and play Xbox games directly from
<v Speaker 1>the Xbox App on Android. This is something they announced recently,
<v Speaker 1>like yesterday, because a court you know it says right here.
<v Speaker 1>A judge ruled in the Epic versus Google case this
<v Speaker 1>week that Google will be forced to allow rival third
<v Speaker 1>party app stores to exist within Google Play. This effort,
<v Speaker 1>spearheaded by Epics Tim Sweeney, means Microsoft will sell Xbox
<v Speaker 1>games directly to consumers begin November. First, this was a
<v Speaker 1>little bit confusing, so Sarah Bond, I think, came out
<v Speaker 1>and said, hey, we're going to start doing this, and
<v Speaker 1>people are like, wait, is this the mobile app store
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about where you're going to start selling
<v Speaker 1>like Call of Duty Mobile and Clash of Clans whatever
<v Speaker 1>else you have on the Microsoft Store on Google Play.
<v Speaker 1>And that's not what they're talking about here, at least
<v Speaker 1>not yet. What they're talking about is on the Xbox
<v Speaker 1>app on Google Play. They will now sell you Xbox
<v Speaker 1>games that you can play on your Xbox or stream
<v Speaker 1>through x Cloud on mobile if you want to do
<v Speaker 1>it that way. So it's really just like, hey, we
<v Speaker 1>no longer would have to pay the thirty percent cut
<v Speaker 1>to sell you a game on mobile that you're going
<v Speaker 1>to play on your Xbox, So now we feel good
<v Speaker 1>about doing that. It's kind of a small thing, but
<v Speaker 1>mostly what I want to talk about here, Dave Klein,
<v Speaker 1>is Microsoft was ready to go with this, right. They're like,
<v Speaker 1>this is like right there the week it was announced
<v Speaker 1>by the court that they could do this, so like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>in November, we're gonna have this ready to go. Get ready.
<v Speaker 1>This feels like this legal strategy, this regulation strategy is
<v Speaker 1>of like front and center of Microsoft's minds over there,
<v Speaker 1>of like, this is our future. We want to have
<v Speaker 1>this stuff everywhere. Do you get that sense when you
<v Speaker 1>see this sort of situation happen.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's definitely what they want. Yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know how much it's gonna help them, but right who knows.
<v Speaker 2>I mean when you're saying, like, honestly, it's kind of
<v Speaker 2>confused as you're telling me the story, like they're trying
<v Speaker 2>to sell how do you buy games for their Xbox
<v Speaker 2>on the Xbox app on a phone? Right, And I'm like, and.
<v Speaker 1>Then you can just install it remotely, I guess, or again,
<v Speaker 1>you could maybe use x cloud to stream it. You know,
<v Speaker 1>I still don't know how it works, like to stream
<v Speaker 1>games you own on xCloud, and who's gonna use excloud.
<v Speaker 1>It's not a very good service.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just like what it just sounds confusing. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It doesn't like make me think like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>this is how I'm gonna buy the games. It's just
<v Speaker 2>easy enough to just go to the storefront, yeah, the
<v Speaker 2>Xbox to buy an Xbox games.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Have you ever purchased a digital
<v Speaker 1>video game through a like a website or an app before,
<v Speaker 1>because I I've maybe done it. Well, you know, I've
<v Speaker 1>done a handful of times for the e Shop actually
<v Speaker 1>on the Nintendo e Shop, just kind of navigating the
<v Speaker 1>website's a little bit faster. So I've done that a
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, have you.
<v Speaker 2>No, If I want a game for my Switch, I
<v Speaker 2>go to the switch. If I want a game for
<v Speaker 2>PS five, I go to my PS five. If I
<v Speaker 2>buy anything on Amazon or somewhere else, that's not the
<v Speaker 2>digital storefront of the system itself, I'm buying a physical copy.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'd never buy digital copies right way. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>that's just me. I'm obviously I'm not indicative of everything, but.
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I also just think, like I am,
<v Speaker 1>I buy all digital and I like only occasionally do
<v Speaker 1>it through like this, these third party things. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think Microsoft's out there saying like this
<v Speaker 1>is the future of buying games. I think it's just
<v Speaker 1>like one more way of doing it, and we're going
<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of this. I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>Sean, Yeah, I mean that's fine. I just I just
<v Speaker 2>don't see how it's going to help them that much.
<v Speaker 2>It's like it just wants to buy something. Yeah, if
<v Speaker 2>someone wants to buy something, they're not gonna be like,
<v Speaker 2>oh thank god, I can finally do it on the
<v Speaker 2>Xbox app right on my phone. I don't know. I
<v Speaker 2>just don't think that's the case.
<v Speaker 1>This is not gonna help them. What what might help them?
<v Speaker 1>And again I don't think there's any guarantee that any
<v Speaker 1>of this helps them. But what might help them is
<v Speaker 1>them thinking that this is step one. And I bring
<v Speaker 1>this up every time for listeners, but yeah, this is
<v Speaker 1>step one, and eventually, you know, what's the difference between
<v Speaker 1>Google Play and the PlayStation store. Why can the Xbox
<v Speaker 1>Store on an Android be a place where you could
<v Speaker 1>buy Xbox games but not the PlayStation store. And then
<v Speaker 1>at that point it's like, we're releasing our games on
<v Speaker 1>XP or on PlayStation. You could buy them here and
<v Speaker 1>play them on PlayStation and we get all the money
<v Speaker 1>and no longer we have to give a thirty percent
<v Speaker 1>to Sony to do that. Now. I know that sounds crazy.
<v Speaker 1>I think it is probably pretty crazy now, but I
<v Speaker 1>do think I continue to think that micros assumes that
<v Speaker 1>that is something that they can kind of penagle the
<v Speaker 1>world into and regulators into agreeing that that's the right
<v Speaker 1>way of doing things. And at that point it's like, okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>sure they're a third party now, but they get one
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the money for selling Call of Duty
<v Speaker 1>on PlayStation. That's a very different world than what we
<v Speaker 1>have right now.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I seen. I think you talk about it or
<v Speaker 2>someone else, And that's definitely to me the most interesting
<v Speaker 2>aspect of this for sure, And I think that's where
<v Speaker 2>you're getting at the beginning. I don't know what things
<v Speaker 2>are going to look like in the future if that happens,
<v Speaker 2>because it's also part of the whole reason these consoles work.
<v Speaker 2>In a way that's how they make their money by
<v Speaker 2>taking that percentage. So when you take that away from them,
<v Speaker 2>it kind of destroys their business model. So it'll be
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see if that happens. I it might with
<v Speaker 2>this new ruling. It's it kind of puts it in
<v Speaker 2>more of a race space than it used to be.
<v Speaker 2>I also wonder what's gonna do to indie games because
<v Speaker 2>for me, and this is selfish because I'm working on one,
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, it makes me wonder. Part of the
<v Speaker 2>thing that's nice about these systems is they're regulated in
<v Speaker 2>a way for putting those games out, so unlike Steam ors,
<v Speaker 2>just like everything. But when you take that guardrail away,
<v Speaker 2>is it just going to open up the floodgates for
<v Speaker 2>just like not that there aren't already a lot of
<v Speaker 2>indie games, but even more like just this crazy amount,
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, of games that are just total crap that
<v Speaker 2>have no work put into them at all.
<v Speaker 1>Right, And I think clearly that would be a risk
<v Speaker 1>that this would run. But I think the the argument
<v Speaker 1>that regulators seem interested in is that if there are
<v Speaker 1>multiple storefronts available in all of these pieces of hardware,
<v Speaker 1>that that would increase competition, and then you, as someone
<v Speaker 1>who makes games, could shop your game around to the
<v Speaker 1>story that has the best terms and the best revene
<v Speaker 1>new share and has the most audience, and you would
<v Speaker 1>factor all those things in, and then that would force
<v Speaker 1>these different storefronts to be like, Okay, sure, we can
<v Speaker 1>no longer charge step thirty percent for every dollar you make. Instead,
<v Speaker 1>we are going to have to cut that so that
<v Speaker 1>we can keep up with the Joneses, because we can
<v Speaker 1>no longer just close off our platform. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if that's I don't know if that's better. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if it is, but it.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean I get that argument for sure. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and definitely in general, I think more competition is always
<v Speaker 2>a good thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's just.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've necessarily been against the gate
<v Speaker 2>system that these systems use, like I think it helps
<v Speaker 2>regulate some of the trash sometimes. Sure, it's like when
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo put their solo quality thing for the NES back
<v Speaker 2>in the day because of what happened with the tari. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I mean sometimes you can overdo it, of course. But yes,
<v Speaker 2>it's an interesting like back and forth, as you're saying,
<v Speaker 2>because there is the market factor, theative factor, where I
<v Speaker 2>mean again, as you're saying, if you're an indie developer,
<v Speaker 2>any developer, so you don't want to pay thirty percent
<v Speaker 2>just to put your game out on the market. That's
<v Speaker 2>a huge mar margin yep, for that you're just paying.
<v Speaker 2>They can't pay your employees if you're a small team
<v Speaker 2>or things like that. So I don't know, it's just
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. So yeah, that will be the most interesting
<v Speaker 2>aspect of this ruling. Absolutely, I think the.
<v Speaker 1>Well well, as much as regulators love to hear that like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we can get more competition in these places and that
<v Speaker 1>we think that'll be more fair, it's like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>look at examples where there is no barrier to that
<v Speaker 1>that utopia that you're imagining, like thely open platform or
<v Speaker 1>the PC, and you know, Steam still gets away with
<v Speaker 1>charging thirty percent to most people, most developers, and you
<v Speaker 1>can anyone can install any store they want on a
<v Speaker 1>PC and it's not really helping things all that much.
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, does the argument go so far as
<v Speaker 1>Steam on an open platform has to begin letting other
<v Speaker 1>stores into its store on an open platform, Maybe regulators
<v Speaker 1>go that far, and it could be that crazy, But
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I it feels like for as much
<v Speaker 1>as like we understand the way all this stuff works,
<v Speaker 1>for as much as like, you know, we kind of
<v Speaker 1>want certain things to be a certain way. Regulation could
<v Speaker 1>come in and take a wrecking ball to a lot
<v Speaker 1>of that and reshape the stuff in a way that's
<v Speaker 1>like very hard to imagine how it would actually actually work.
<v Speaker 1>And I think in the meantime, I get the sense
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft is waiting in the wings, trying to be like
<v Speaker 1>the one that can hop first and take advantage of
<v Speaker 1>it the most, and that's what buying all this content
<v Speaker 1>has really been about this entire time. But we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>It'd be an interesting strategy.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's an interesting strategy. Is it the one?
<v Speaker 1>Is it the one that I want them to do?
<v Speaker 2>No?
<v Speaker 1>I want to make good games that I want to play.
<v Speaker 1>I think that would be the best strategy.
<v Speaker 2>But that's the best strategy for all of us.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. All right, We're gonna take a quick break
<v Speaker 1>when we come back right after this. A lot more
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, including really powerful sales of Metaphor refn
<v Speaker 1>Tasio on day one, and what's up with Disco Elysium's developers,
<v Speaker 1>Right after this. All right, we're right back into it
<v Speaker 1>here we go. Metaphor Refundasio sales past one million mark
<v Speaker 1>after day one. This is from Jamie Tugayev at Duel Shockers.
<v Speaker 1>One day is all it takes for a legend to
<v Speaker 1>be born. Sega announced Metaphor Refundasio broke the one million
<v Speaker 1>copies mark within the first day. To put this meteor
<v Speaker 1>grise in perspective, Atlas's previous fastest seller was Persona three Reload,
<v Speaker 1>which took a week to hit similar numbers. Meanwhile, as
<v Speaker 1>of this morning, Steam charts show players at a peak
<v Speaker 1>past fifty two thousand and rising. That's fifty two thousand
<v Speaker 1>concurrent players all playing at the same time. This puts
<v Speaker 1>Metaphor Refundasio as the twenty third most played game right now.
<v Speaker 1>Sandwich between Boulderskate three at around fifty thousand and Team
<v Speaker 1>Fortress two at around fifty five or fifty six thousand.
<v Speaker 1>These numbers are far from complete. Metaphor Refuntasio is also
<v Speaker 1>available on PlayStation four and five and Xbox Series X
<v Speaker 1>and S. Unlike Valve, neither Sony nor Microsoft make their
<v Speaker 1>players or sales numbers public on demand. Yeah that's hey,
<v Speaker 1>people seem to be into this game and they want
<v Speaker 1>it real bad, being the fastest selling Atlas RPG. Apparently,
<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily what I was expecting. I thought it
<v Speaker 1>would take a little bit more of a slow burn
<v Speaker 1>of people be like, oh, this is as good or
<v Speaker 1>as as desirable as the Persona games. I will show
<v Speaker 1>up for this in week two. But nope. It seems
<v Speaker 1>like word of mouth has spread. Those reviews obviously helped,
<v Speaker 1>and people are jumping aboard right away. Huh.
<v Speaker 2>Some one of those things that makes me really excited.
<v Speaker 2>It's similar to From Software, where anytime from Software releases
<v Speaker 2>a new IP, it seems to do better and better,
<v Speaker 2>and it's like part of the marketing with Metaphor was, hey,
<v Speaker 2>this is the same team that made Persona five, and
<v Speaker 2>that's what hooked me. And I'm glad that. I'm glad
<v Speaker 2>to see a new IP, even if it's an old
<v Speaker 2>team doing so well, because that's what I want ultimately,
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's the best for everybody, is when
<v Speaker 2>new ips can get made and these steps can get
<v Speaker 2>truly creative. So it's super exciting to see. And I'm
<v Speaker 2>one of those people I'd almost never pre order a game,
<v Speaker 2>but I want a metaphor right away, and unlike you,
<v Speaker 2>I'm a physical copy guy. So I ordered mine a
<v Speaker 2>few days ago just because I want to play it
<v Speaker 2>as I hope it comes in today, and it looks
<v Speaker 2>like it's going to So I was like, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's one of those teams I trust, like from software.
<v Speaker 2>I just I trust it's going to be good. It
<v Speaker 2>seems like other people do and it's exciting.
<v Speaker 1>It's great. Yep, yeah, it's you know, and when you
<v Speaker 1>have a game that's in the nineties on Metacritic, that's
<v Speaker 1>going to help all that stuff sort of congeal together
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, Okay, we know the developer, this is
<v Speaker 1>a fantasy RPG that looks fun. Can I you know,
<v Speaker 1>should I really begin as excited about this as as
<v Speaker 1>as I have been? Should I really be pre ordering?
<v Speaker 1>And then you see those metacritics scores come in and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, yeah, I feel good about this. Let's
<v Speaker 1>just roll. And then that also is going to make
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people jump aboard and get on Steam
<v Speaker 1>as soon as they see it and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, very very good for the developers over there
<v Speaker 1>and them being able to prove it's like, no, we
<v Speaker 1>can move this beyond Persona. It does feel like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this is the team that has kind of taken the
<v Speaker 1>torch of that entire JRPG genre, and this is where
<v Speaker 1>people are looking now, instead of even like Square Nix,
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, at one point, you know, Square Innix
<v Speaker 1>is going to have Final Fantasy and then they put
<v Speaker 1>out a Corona trigger and everyone's gonna pay attention, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like, we're a long way away from that in
<v Speaker 1>this moment. I think. You know, that's not to say
<v Speaker 1>Square Enix can't also be having can't have games that
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of people excited for the next one,
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, in this moment, it feels like they
<v Speaker 1>have somewhat abandoned those the fundamentals there that made all
<v Speaker 1>that stuff work in the first place, and Atlas has
<v Speaker 1>full embraced those fundamentals, you know, like turn based combat,
<v Speaker 1>and they're reaping the reward.
<v Speaker 2>I feel like somewhere along the line, Scory Knicks kind
<v Speaker 2>of lost touch with maybe a stylistic thing that made
<v Speaker 2>those games click for so many people. Maybe they went
<v Speaker 2>too hard and I don't know if it was the
<v Speaker 2>Dark Fantasy route, I remember there's that like Final Fantasy
<v Speaker 2>zero game that came out. It's like a precursor game
<v Speaker 2>that just didn't. I don't know, just look like I'm
<v Speaker 2>trying to be hard. We're trying to be hard as
<v Speaker 2>opposed to a like true Final Fantasy game. But I'm
<v Speaker 2>a big Rebirth fan. I thought that was just amazing.
<v Speaker 2>So this is definitely a year that j RPG fans
<v Speaker 2>are eating well. And yeah, I Alice is doing great metaphor.
<v Speaker 2>It's just you know something I wonder, Actually, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if you have this the data for this. We're
<v Speaker 2>talking about the metacritics scores and how amazing they are.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how how much sales jumped once those scores
<v Speaker 2>starting to come out. Yep, just makes it. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if that data is out there. It makes me
<v Speaker 2>wonder how many people pre ordered before it and then
<v Speaker 2>how many people saw those scores and were like, oh, yes,
<v Speaker 2>this is good enough for me to pre order.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wonder if it's like possible to measure that
<v Speaker 1>on Steam dB. Maybe maybe that's possible, but I think
<v Speaker 1>we would both probably guess that it did jump significantly,
<v Speaker 1>like when you get a game of the Year contender
<v Speaker 1>level of reviews. People are going to take notice, and
<v Speaker 1>it just you know, you know, we always talking about
<v Speaker 1>on the show how every purchasing purchasing decision is a
<v Speaker 1>conversation with yourself and you try to like convince yourself
<v Speaker 1>to do something. Once you get that much momentum in
<v Speaker 1>the favor of, hey, this might be worth that money, easily,
<v Speaker 1>it becomes that much easier to actually pull the trigger
<v Speaker 1>on buying the things. So yeah, and now it's like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>wide release. We're gonna hear everybody talking about it here
<v Speaker 1>pretty soon and see kind of what the you know,
<v Speaker 1>what the initial reaction is, there's any backlash, that's always
<v Speaker 1>a fun time to do, a fun thing to do
<v Speaker 1>with these games as well. But I imagine most people
<v Speaker 1>are going to be pretty happy with this, as even
<v Speaker 1>the people my circles were like early on, I didn't
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it clicked with me. Many people
<v Speaker 1>did click with them right away, so I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if it clicked me, Like now it has after thirty.
<v Speaker 2>Hours, So only to thirty hours, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Come on, who doesn't have that much time? All right?
<v Speaker 1>Next up, two Disco Elysium spinoff studios have been announced
<v Speaker 1>on the same day. This is from Chris Scully and
<v Speaker 1>at VGC. Two new studios co founded by former Disco
<v Speaker 1>Elysium developers have been announced on the same day. On
<v Speaker 1>Friday morning, around twelve, former zah Oom staff announced the
<v Speaker 1>creation of Long Do Games, a studio said to be
<v Speaker 1>working on a spiritual successor to the acclaimed RPG. At
<v Speaker 1>the same time, another UK based studio, Dark Math Games,
<v Speaker 1>was announced, with around twenty former disco Elysium staff said
<v Speaker 1>to be on board creating their own detective RPG named
<v Speaker 1>Triple X night Shift. Longdew Games will also include developers
<v Speaker 1>who previously worked at Rockstar, Bungie and Brave at Night
<v Speaker 1>and says it aims to create games that resonate emotionally
<v Speaker 1>and intellectually, and that it's here to build a reputation
<v Speaker 1>of consistently delivering quality with a focus on depth and
<v Speaker 1>narrative integrity. Its first game is being billed as a
<v Speaker 1>spiritual successor to Disco Elysium, and Longdu says it explores
<v Speaker 1>the delicate interplay between the conscious and subconscious, the scene,
<v Speaker 1>and the unseen. The game is described as a psychogeographic
<v Speaker 1>RPG with a unique mechanic where every decision reshapes both
<v Speaker 1>the world and the characters that inhabit it. Meanwhile, Dark Maths,
<v Speaker 1>a triple Dark Maths Triple X Nightshift, claims to deliver
<v Speaker 1>a deep single player role playing experience with many tools
<v Speaker 1>and layers of gameplay, plus a unique companion dynamic which
<v Speaker 1>adds more fun and offers different paths to solve cases.
<v Speaker 1>The innovative and powerful roleplaying systems, respect your time and
<v Speaker 1>trust your intelligence With seismic choices, it says up to
<v Speaker 1>you to decide how your story unfolds and how it ends. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so this is from the the aftermath, the sort of
<v Speaker 1>blast radius of what happened with za Um, which I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's how you say it that so
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it for now, where that there was
<v Speaker 1>a lot of controversy at that studio, so the ownership
<v Speaker 1>kind of tried to take things over, tried to make
<v Speaker 1>a sequel, maybe try to push out some of the
<v Speaker 1>people who were key to making the game. It sounds
<v Speaker 1>like there was some drama involved the people making the game,
<v Speaker 1>but there was a lot of people that weren't that
<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with either side of these things.
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a lot of them have left to go
<v Speaker 1>do these kinds of games elsewhere, and I welcome that.
<v Speaker 1>I think that would be awesome to see more games
<v Speaker 1>of that style because there's not a lot of disco
<v Speaker 1>Elysiums out there. And even as someone who prefers the
<v Speaker 1>dewey games over the talkie games, I have really appreciated
<v Speaker 1>disco Elysium. It's a game I'm like slowly playing over time.
<v Speaker 1>I played some this summer. I was kept like my
<v Speaker 1>game going, and then you know, fell off because some
<v Speaker 1>other games came out. But it's right there on my
<v Speaker 1>Steam deck waiting for me to get back into it,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking forward to doing exactly that. Uh yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think this is exciting. What do you? How about you?
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's cool. So if I recall,
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it didn't come out that the creative director was
<v Speaker 2>kind of a asshole to work?
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Right right? There was some issues with the people
<v Speaker 1>like response for the game, and definitely some issues with
<v Speaker 1>the ownership ownership, yes right, and just sounds like they
<v Speaker 1>were kind of pricks to each other and everybody else.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like I'm excited about because I'm one of
<v Speaker 2>the very few people who did not like disco Leasium
<v Speaker 2>very much. I didn't like the writing. I found it
<v Speaker 2>to be pretentious. That's just if you like it, that's great.
<v Speaker 1>I just definitely a little pretentious without a doubt.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, so I like it. It made me not
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it, and that's cool. I know everyone loves it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the minority. But that's part of why I
<v Speaker 2>like this story so much is because I like the
<v Speaker 2>mechanics of it, and I feel like a lot of
<v Speaker 2>that writing that I just comes from. It feels like
<v Speaker 2>after I found out about the creator, I was like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that kind of makes sense where that story came from.
<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited to see what the other team's story
<v Speaker 2>is because I do like the game otherwise. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and that's just me. That's very personal to me. I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure some people will feel like that that's what made
<v Speaker 2>them love the game so much.
<v Speaker 1>Is that. What I like about it is it is pretentious,
<v Speaker 1>and then it knows it's pretentious, and that there's always
<v Speaker 1>more to every single thing that the game is saying
<v Speaker 1>that that deconstructs it and criticizes that pretentious position as well.
<v Speaker 1>It is fully self aware and it's its own thissc
<v Speaker 1>critic in a lot of ways. So I appreciated that
<v Speaker 1>side of things.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's cool. So, like, I'm not faulting anybody
<v Speaker 2>for liking it. It's just for me. I guess it
<v Speaker 2>rubbed me the wrong way.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, but I mean I definitely no. I know, Dan Record,
<v Speaker 1>whenever you what was watching people play would have a
<v Speaker 1>similar action of like, oh my god, who cares about
<v Speaker 1>any of this is sew up its own ass and
<v Speaker 1>you kind of what can you do if you have
<v Speaker 1>that reaction?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So, and I finished the game. I fully played it.
<v Speaker 2>I fully finished it. But hey, I'm I think anytime
<v Speaker 2>more people have a chance to be creative and get
<v Speaker 2>spotlight for it, that's also cool. So I'm glad that
<v Speaker 2>they're getting away, they're getting some attention, and especially it
<v Speaker 2>sounds like an extremely toxic workplace from all ends between
<v Speaker 2>the ownership, between the creative director and all that. I'm glad.
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they spun off ano they're doing their own thing.
<v Speaker 2>So that's great, super good for them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're right, I think there's a chance to
<v Speaker 1>reset the vibes of the game and come in with
<v Speaker 1>a different angle because you know, a detective game. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>keep it a detective game. That's fine. I think you
<v Speaker 1>if you can change the sort of the preconceived ideas
<v Speaker 1>of what the characters are, you can have a completely
<v Speaker 1>different feeling when playing it. And I would be excited
<v Speaker 1>to see how that could be executed. So we'll see.
<v Speaker 2>You're describing by the quotes what were described. Sounds cool
<v Speaker 2>to me. You like, I'm in that sounds great.
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it sounds promising if you people were wasn't
<v Speaker 1>Weren't they making a Disco Elysium sequel at Zaoom with
<v Speaker 1>the remaining people. Apparently that got canceled, along with a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other stuff, so it doesn't sound like they're
<v Speaker 1>doing much of anything over there. I don't know. Meanwhile,
<v Speaker 1>the Rise of the Golden Idol is coming out ridiculously soon.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Maddy Myers at Polygon. Watch out other
<v Speaker 1>video games because there's a new Game of the Year
<v Speaker 1>contender in town. At least for my personal taste, that is,
<v Speaker 1>the Case of the Golden Idol was my favorite game
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty two. It's a short, haunting, supernatural myster
<v Speaker 1>game made up of individual chapters that each felt super
<v Speaker 1>satisfying to solve it's seql. The Rise of the Golden
<v Speaker 1>Idol is apparently coming out on November twelfth. It's coming
<v Speaker 1>to a bunch of platforms, including on mobile via Netflix.
<v Speaker 1>The announcement trailer also list pcvia Steam, PlayStation four and five, Xbox,
<v Speaker 1>and Nintendo Switch. You have a month to catch up
<v Speaker 1>on the original game, which is plenty of time given
<v Speaker 1>that it isn't long, six to eight hours depending on
<v Speaker 1>how fast you are solving mysteries. It is, however, a
<v Speaker 1>game you will think about forever afterward in which you
<v Speaker 1>could scrub from your memory and play a game because
<v Speaker 1>it's so creepy and cool. Yeah. And then they go
<v Speaker 1>and describe how that the game works, which is like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a scenes are set up. There's a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of uh information in these scenes that they're like
<v Speaker 1>still see static scenes, and you need to use logic
<v Speaker 1>to piece together the words that go into certain sentences
<v Speaker 1>to explain who did the crime, why and where that
<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. Uh. And it is a really really
<v Speaker 1>excellent game. It's one of it's one of these games
<v Speaker 1>I put in the genre Dave of you mostly play
<v Speaker 1>in your head instead of the mechanics existing within the
<v Speaker 1>code of the game. And I love that sort of thing,
<v Speaker 1>and this is what maybe the best example of that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of up there with uh, the what's
<v Speaker 1>the Ship game where you have the time most Well,
<v Speaker 1>that is a great game, Oberden, Yes, yeah, Oberden, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is also a great game.
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad when I saw that you put this in
<v Speaker 2>this story, I was like, kind of figured I was
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask if you played it, and then I realized,
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Golden Idol, you must have played it,
<v Speaker 2>because it's not I don't think it's a very big title,
<v Speaker 2>but it is excellent too, so I agree with you.
<v Speaker 2>Game is fantastic. Yeah, I'm super excited there's a new one,
<v Speaker 2>and I hope more people play it. I don't know
<v Speaker 2>if the original one sold very well. I guess it's
<v Speaker 2>sold enough to make a sequel, but I think.
<v Speaker 1>I think I found a pretty big audience because it
<v Speaker 1>was one of those word of mouth games that really did. It.
<v Speaker 1>Was like on every podcast was talking about it. That
<v Speaker 1>sort of game.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted to play it when I first saw it,
<v Speaker 2>but I'm more of I'm not a big PC guy,
<v Speaker 2>so I kind of I waited, and when it finally
<v Speaker 2>came to switch, that's when I got it, which is
<v Speaker 2>kind of buggy on the switch, So I actually there's
<v Speaker 2>a game.
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit buggy, So that's just what the game was. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been able to play the last scenario because
<v Speaker 2>it bugged out on me, but otherwise for a while
<v Speaker 2>I did it. Yeah, I can only use one word
<v Speaker 2>that's not helpful. But it is such a good game,
<v Speaker 2>and you described it the perfect way. It's one of
<v Speaker 2>the few games that really makes you feel like a detective.
<v Speaker 2>Obradn does that. As you mentioned, like there's detective games
<v Speaker 2>like what we were just talking about with this Goelesium
<v Speaker 2>and what sounds like they want to make where it's
<v Speaker 2>more a story based detective game an Ace Attorney. You
<v Speaker 2>do a bit of detective work, but it's really more
<v Speaker 2>just like a point and click type of thing. This
<v Speaker 2>is a game that really makes you feel clever when
<v Speaker 2>you figure it out. It really makes you feel like
<v Speaker 2>you are doing the leg work. And I appreciate it
<v Speaker 2>for doing that because I feel like detective is a
<v Speaker 2>hard genre to pull off, and it does, and it's
<v Speaker 2>just it has a fun, supernatural story. Every scenario that
<v Speaker 2>you go into, as they're all laid out scenarios, they
<v Speaker 2>all feel unique and interesting and when you click on
<v Speaker 2>the picture, so you're just exciting to be like, what's
<v Speaker 2>the next scenario going to be? What happened? It really
<v Speaker 2>draws you in so super exciting.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, I'm looking forward to this November twelfth. I didn't
<v Speaker 1>finish the DLC for a Case of the Golden Idol,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna do that while I wait for November
<v Speaker 1>twelfth to come along and the release of Rise of
<v Speaker 1>the Golden Idol. All right, let's get through these last
<v Speaker 1>handful of stories here. Three more tomb Raider games are
<v Speaker 1>getting remasters in twenty twenty five, including one of the
<v Speaker 1>most divisive ones. This is from Ethan Gotcha at Kotaku.
<v Speaker 1>Following a year after the tomb Rader one through three
<v Speaker 1>remaster collection, three additional Lara Croft games are getting updated
<v Speaker 1>with visual upgrades and new features. Tumb Rader four through
<v Speaker 1>six remastered arrives in February twenty twenty five for thirty
<v Speaker 1>dollars the collection. The collection consists of nineteen ninety nine
<v Speaker 1>s tomb Rader, the last revelation for the original PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>two thousand's tomb Raider Chronicles and two thousand and threes
<v Speaker 1>turm Rader The Angel of Darkness for the PS two
<v Speaker 1>three Mastered versions will be on PS five, PS four,
<v Speaker 1>Xbox Series X and S, Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, and
<v Speaker 1>PC and include a range of improvements like the ability
<v Speaker 1>to toggle between classic and modern graphics on the fly,
<v Speaker 1>the option of modern controls or the original tank style movement,
<v Speaker 1>photo mode with poses, quality of life features like boss
<v Speaker 1>health bars, trophies, and achievements on the relevant platforms. You
<v Speaker 1>know the tomb Raider games. I never loved the tomb
<v Speaker 1>Raider games stave. I thought the originals were interesting, like
<v Speaker 1>the very originals. Definitely, by the time four, five and
<v Speaker 1>six were coming out, I had lost interest. And then
<v Speaker 1>I do remember Angel of Darkness being kind of a problem.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they have a quote here from some schmoke
<v Speaker 1>called Great Cassavin who was writing for a website, who said,
<v Speaker 1>the actual gameplay of tomb Raider The Angel of Darkness
<v Speaker 1>often isn't fun at all, but instead can be frustrating, difficult,
<v Speaker 1>and tedious. Apparently that game also had a lot of
<v Speaker 1>like missing content and things like that, so you know, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean it shouldn't be remastered. Still an interesting
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, and maybe there's a chance they could
<v Speaker 1>make stuff better when they have an opportunity like this.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. How do you feel about tum Raider.
<v Speaker 1>You think four, five, six are going to be worth
<v Speaker 1>going through?
<v Speaker 2>Well, grub, you are in good company. I was never
<v Speaker 2>a big man of tomb Raider either. I rented the
<v Speaker 2>first one, I just never clicked with me, so I
<v Speaker 2>never played any any of the other ones until the
<v Speaker 2>the reimagining one came out, which I loved. I loved
<v Speaker 2>the Unguarded tomb Raider. But you know, I think the
<v Speaker 2>thing I think is the best though about this remaster,
<v Speaker 2>even though I'm not a big Turm Raider guy, is
<v Speaker 2>I think it's cool they're lene you choose between tank
<v Speaker 2>controls or not, because I think that's fun to be
<v Speaker 2>able to choose the original wave was intended to be.
<v Speaker 1>Controls are fun. Still, yeah, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's bad. I think they get a
<v Speaker 2>bad rep I don't think they're as bad as people
<v Speaker 2>make them out to be, so, especially for Survival Horror,
<v Speaker 2>I tried playing the Resident Devial remake without tank controls,
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this just does not work.
<v Speaker 1>No, no, yeah with the you know, the cameras and everything. No,
<v Speaker 1>you want tank control. So that's the reason they did
<v Speaker 1>tank controls for those games. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean tom Raiders a little different because it's a
<v Speaker 2>platform game.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also it's a platform game with its tile
<v Speaker 1>based so you're moving one tile at a time when
<v Speaker 1>you press forward, So it still makes sense to me
<v Speaker 1>in some ways.
<v Speaker 2>It's like the Croc remake is also maintaining their tank controls,
<v Speaker 2>which is cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just never, I don't know, never clicked with me.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad that two Murder fans are getting it.
<v Speaker 2>The theme song's right, Yeah, sure, happy to hear remaster
<v Speaker 2>the things song yep.
<v Speaker 1>Steam deck is launching in Australia this November. Let's see here,
<v Speaker 1>there's a price here, the Verge report of the original
<v Speaker 1>LCD model with the two hundred and fifty six gigabytes
<v Speaker 1>of storage, we'll set consumers back six hundred and forty
<v Speaker 1>nine Australian dollars, which is equivalent to about four hundred
<v Speaker 1>and thirty seven American Valve will also release the Steam
<v Speaker 1>Decks O lead model and two versions for five hundred
<v Speaker 1>and twelve gigabytes, you'll be paying nine hundred dollars Australian
<v Speaker 1>and the one terabyte option will go for one fifty
<v Speaker 1>dollars Australian. That's equivalent about seven hundred and six Dollarsustralian yet,
<v Speaker 1>so then that's colvin to about seven hundred and six
<v Speaker 1>dollars American, which is about how much that cost. I
<v Speaker 1>think it's maybe a little bit more expensive. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>maybe six fifty here in the United States. So the
<v Speaker 1>exact release date of the device in the country has
<v Speaker 1>not been shared at this time, but you know, November,
<v Speaker 1>sometime in November. So congratulations Australia, you're finally getting it
<v Speaker 1>after the original shipped in February of twenty twenty two.
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know they didn't have it yet.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, they've been because the only place you could buy
<v Speaker 1>it is is Steam, right, the only place you can
<v Speaker 1>get a steam deck is through Steam itself. And it's
<v Speaker 1>not like there's retailers in Australia importing them and valves
<v Speaker 1>just like we're not going to be shipping them to
<v Speaker 1>Australia yet. Just you know, hang tight, and finally they
<v Speaker 1>are going to get.
<v Speaker 2>It every few months. I like, I want to steam
<v Speaker 2>Deck because I love indie games. All the best indie
<v Speaker 2>games come to Steam before anywhere else, and then I
<v Speaker 2>never get it just because the four under fifty dollars
<v Speaker 2>price tag. I'm like, uh, it's kind of steep, though, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's worth it. I mean, that's why I play so
<v Speaker 2>many I mean, that's why I play so many indie
<v Speaker 2>games on Switch, just because I love playing a handheld
<v Speaker 2>like that, and I know I would play the hell
<v Speaker 2>out of a steam Deck if I got it. So yeah, hey,
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad for Australia though, good for them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with Dan Fiasco in chatz is Bury me
<v Speaker 1>with my old led Steam Deck. That's I love that thing.
<v Speaker 1>Just use it all the time, constantly. Every time I
<v Speaker 1>look at it makes me happy. It's a great way
<v Speaker 1>to play games, and the battery life is really good
<v Speaker 1>on it, especially for indie games. I turned down the
<v Speaker 1>TVP the total draw power on a steam Deck for
<v Speaker 1>UFO fifty down to five watts, and the things like yeah,
<v Speaker 1>yeah you can play this for twelve hours, You're good,
<v Speaker 1>like hell, yeah, let's go all right, Nintendo asks Switch
<v Speaker 1>Online play Test Program participants to quote, not discuss or
<v Speaker 1>disclose content. This is from Liam Dulan at Nintendo Life. Basically,
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo said, as part of like their their thing here
<v Speaker 1>and as a reminder, Nintendo's running some weird tests. We
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is the mystery. People had to
<v Speaker 1>sign up for it. Yesterday. I signed up, I got selected.
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people signed up weren't selected. Apparently it
<v Speaker 1>was like ten excuse me, ten thousand people. They already
<v Speaker 1>closed it, but they said, come back on October twentieth.
<v Speaker 1>We'll give you a download code for a two point
<v Speaker 1>two gigabyte app on the Nintendo Switch Online service that
<v Speaker 1>you'll download separately, and then you can use it on
<v Speaker 1>October twenty first, and they again, they still haven't told
<v Speaker 1>us what it is, but they have some requests here
<v Speaker 1>and it is a request. People are kind of incorrectly
<v Speaker 1>saying that this was an NDA. This is not what
<v Speaker 1>NDAs sound like people, So let's read the quote here.
<v Speaker 1>We request that you do not discuss or disclose content
<v Speaker 1>from either the Nintendo Switch Online play Test program, test software,
<v Speaker 1>or website with others. If you know, request is not
<v Speaker 1>the word that it gets put in a in an NDA,
<v Speaker 1>what like even like those soft ndias where it's like,
<v Speaker 1>just by doing this you agree, they'll say you agree
<v Speaker 1>not to disclose under any circumstance. Blah blah blah. It's
<v Speaker 1>much more rigid. This is them just kind of doing
<v Speaker 1>a please don't and uh there does seem like they're
<v Speaker 1>any force of law. Now it is Nintendo, So maybe
<v Speaker 1>don't take your chances. Maybe maybe don't risk it. At
<v Speaker 1>least I'm telling you not to risk it. Don't don't
<v Speaker 1>blame me if something happens with you. But hey, uh what,
<v Speaker 1>I just keep bringing this up, Dave, because I'm curious
<v Speaker 1>what people think. It is no idea.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's not like a switch to thing otherwise,
<v Speaker 2>I mean you need the console for that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's a future that could easily transfer
<v Speaker 1>over to the switch to. But yes, something that's gonna
<v Speaker 1>work on switch one right now.
<v Speaker 2>It could be I while we were talking about, just
<v Speaker 2>thinking like racking my brain what could it possibly be?
<v Speaker 2>But it's like trying to guess the alarmo right, Yes,
<v Speaker 2>it's like who would have ever guessed that was a thing.
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for you, though. They get to find out
<v Speaker 2>before all of us. I no clue. And I'm sure
<v Speaker 2>somebody is going to break it because uh, somebody's gonna
<v Speaker 2>want the attention.
<v Speaker 1>But oh sure, without a doubt.
<v Speaker 2>Especially if there's not illegally binding NDA. Yeah, but man,
<v Speaker 2>that's like maybe it's a fitness app. I don't know. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's like if it's if it's an app on your phone.
<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't know, but it's it's not an app. No,
<v Speaker 1>it's an app you download on the switch. So it's right, right,
<v Speaker 1>it's I mean, so it's gabytes And they do that
<v Speaker 1>one of the others, some of the other tibits where
<v Speaker 1>they request that you use it in TV mode, that
<v Speaker 1>you should use it in TV mode with a wired connection.
<v Speaker 1>So people are thinking maybe it's a cloud streaming thing,
<v Speaker 1>and and some of the rumors have been GameCube cloud
<v Speaker 1>streaming streaming game Cube games. Yeah, maybe I would.
<v Speaker 2>Matter for the Why would that matter for the TV
<v Speaker 2>part though?
<v Speaker 1>For ease because then because that's when you can have
<v Speaker 1>it wired. You can't have it wired and handheld excuse me,
<v Speaker 1>and handheld mode at least not easily. But I mean
<v Speaker 1>they won't like have it wired, so you have the
<v Speaker 1>best connection possible, I guess. I mean, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>You're right, so what might actually be the relevant thing here?
<v Speaker 1>None of that might matter for what this thing ends
<v Speaker 1>up being, which could be more disappointed than anything we're imagining.
<v Speaker 2>So uh yeah, yep, it's just like Mario saying it's
<v Speaker 2>a me every so often on your.
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's a it's an Mario. They got the Milo
<v Speaker 1>tech from Microsoft, and now it's ma Mario instead.
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could have some more fun guesses for you,
<v Speaker 2>but I've got no clue.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you're right though, because it is exactly
<v Speaker 1>like trying to guess Alarmo. It's like, who could possibly
<v Speaker 1>think what Nintenda's going to do next? And why are
<v Speaker 1>they keeping in such a mystery? Uh? I guess there's
<v Speaker 1>a chance that they announced what this is between now
<v Speaker 1>and when the test happens, so that they can control
<v Speaker 1>the messaging.
<v Speaker 2>But then why they're just masters of marketing. We're talking
<v Speaker 2>about it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then why keep it a secret? I don't
<v Speaker 1>know why or why I ask people to keep it
<v Speaker 1>a secret.
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's going to want to know what's the secret? What
<v Speaker 2>is it?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You're okay, compare that's actually not a bad point,
<v Speaker 1>but I always think, like, is Nintendo that clever? I
<v Speaker 1>just think they just sort of stumble into these things sometimes.
<v Speaker 1>So who knows?
<v Speaker 2>All?
<v Speaker 1>Right? Poll question? I got the results from yesterday's poll
<v Speaker 1>right here, I have to vote. So it was Nintendo's
<v Speaker 1>testing a mystery switch online feature. What is it? The
<v Speaker 1>options were a remote play together, social platform, achievements, cloud streaming,
<v Speaker 1>family library sharing. You probably should have put a who
<v Speaker 1>knows something else, but I'm gonna I'll just click on
<v Speaker 1>cloud streaming, and twenty seven percent also said cloud streaming,
<v Speaker 1>but that was not number one. Number one was achievements
<v Speaker 1>at thirty percent.
<v Speaker 2>My two point two gigabytes for achievements.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm a separate app for that. You're right, I
<v Speaker 1>fully agree. I think that is people saying that's what
<v Speaker 1>they want, which guess gotta get over that. Seventeen percent
<v Speaker 1>say it's a social platform, fifteen percent say it's remote
<v Speaker 1>play together, like that thing where you can have a
<v Speaker 1>game that only has local remote play or local play
<v Speaker 1>you can just have your friend come in over the
<v Speaker 1>cloud with a direct connection to your console. Sure, maybe,
<v Speaker 1>And then ten percent say it's a family library sharing system,
<v Speaker 1>which is maybe the thing I want the most, That's
<v Speaker 1>what I want.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they would have selected people differently for that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this random ten thousand of people like that. You
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. You're all just hopping in there.
<v Speaker 1>You're right, it's definitely not family remote. Why would you
<v Speaker 1>need a two point two gigabyte app for that as well? Right?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that too. Yeah, I mean cloud streaming does
<v Speaker 2>seem like the most likely I.
<v Speaker 1>Agree with you on based on the information we have.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, based on the information. But I mean again,
<v Speaker 2>it could be an alarmo.
<v Speaker 1>So it could be an alarmo. All right, we have
<v Speaker 1>a new poll question coming out here in a second.
<v Speaker 1>Before we do that, though, Dave Klin, why don't you
<v Speaker 1>tell people where they can find you on the internet
<v Speaker 1>what you have going on? All that good stuff?
<v Speaker 2>Sure. I work for game Spot as a senior producer,
<v Speaker 2>starting a new show with Giant Bomb next week, I think,
<v Speaker 2>or in two weeks, which well, I guess we'll reveal
<v Speaker 2>when we do it. And I'm excited about that new
<v Speaker 2>show coming out for game Spot called speed Break, which
<v Speaker 2>is about how speed runners break games in order to
<v Speaker 2>get their high scores. That I'm more on as well.
<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel I haven't posted content on in two years
<v Speaker 2>called day Control, and I'm working on a game in
<v Speaker 2>my free time, been working on for two years. Hopefully
<v Speaker 2>I can announce it in a year and it'll be
<v Speaker 2>done in five years.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the indie game cycle. Hell yeah, let's go, Dave,
<v Speaker 1>thank you for doing all this. Newpoll question, do you
<v Speaker 1>think the splinter Cell remake ever comes out? Yes?
<v Speaker 2>Or no?
<v Speaker 1>What do you think? You think we got a splinter Cell?
<v Speaker 1>Just what do you think in this moment? Yeah?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think so too. But we'll see what
<v Speaker 1>people say. We'll get results for this and discuss it
<v Speaker 1>on Game Mes Mornings here on Giant Bomb on Monday,
<v Speaker 1>speaking a Giant Bomb today, there's still more stuff happening.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I need to wrap the show up because
<v Speaker 1>they need to start BCR right now to talk about
<v Speaker 1>Metaphor Refan Tasio Jan for his birthday apparently put together
<v Speaker 1>an all star crew talk about it. People who have
<v Speaker 1>beaten the game. People are pretty deep into it. And
<v Speaker 1>then also Sean, who I think is like twenty five
<v Speaker 1>hours into it's not it's still respectable, but it's like man,
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to this game that he might get spoiled,
<v Speaker 1>so heavily spoiled. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that
<v Speaker 1>works out for him. But they're gonna have conversations if
<v Speaker 1>you're worried about spoilers. Obviously, the game just came out.
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll probably start with a few like with
<v Speaker 1>no spoilers, and then that stuffould be safe at the end.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they're doing it. You should just
<v Speaker 1>listen to the show. Uh. And then also we are
<v Speaker 1>doing a like Club today. Blake Club is back, new
<v Speaker 1>season of Blake Colb.
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Yeah, I'm excited to see what Lucy has to play.
<v Speaker 1>Lucy James is our victim this time, and you will just.
<v Speaker 2>People knew that, people.
<v Speaker 1>Have known that that what they don't know is what
<v Speaker 1>she's playing. She doesn't know what she's playing, and she's
<v Speaker 1>gonna find out after she gets dressed up and her
<v Speaker 1>outfit for the show, which you're not gonna want to miss.
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a good time, all right, let's see here.
<v Speaker 1>Anything else that we should talk about. Yeah, next week
<v Speaker 1>will be fun. I think we're off next Monday, though
<v Speaker 1>everybody I think it's Indigenous People's Day. I think so.
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not good at remember that that sort of thing,
<v Speaker 1>so maybe.
<v Speaker 2>That is invisionous People's Day. I have no idea what
<v Speaker 2>Giant Bomb schedule is.
<v Speaker 1>Tho, yes, I think we're off next Monday. I'm all
<v Speaker 1>right with all that said, Dave Clink, thank you so
<v Speaker 1>much for hanging out with me today and talking about
<v Speaker 1>video games. Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me on. It was a blast.
<v Speaker 1>Of course, absolutely, we'll make it happen more often. Thank
<v Speaker 1>you all for watching and listening. You are the best
<v Speaker 1>audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself and goodbye.