Slugging, but sloppy: Phillies win 2 of 3 from Arizona

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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rob Thompson and welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Toddswalk.

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Speaker 3: It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, May fifth, twenty twenty five. Gentlemen, how's it hanging? Good morning, Good morning, the right to the right.

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Speaker 3: There we go, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I'm not touching that.

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Speaker 4: Before we even know you're not so So here's the deal. Somebody just sent me this score book from Loudenslager. The woman's name is Patty Gondos and family. It was the guy, the gentleman years ago, Mike Gondos. He was the president of the American Legion. He's just passed away and.

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Speaker 5: He has every one of my American Legion games in here.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's so cool.

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Speaker 5: It's insane. That's aw Let me see if I can find my name.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice trip down memory lane.

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Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. I don't think I got any hits. Yeah, Ramro look at all that.

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Speaker 1: Look at Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember any of the kids that brother brother?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember I had so. My teammates were Jesse Levis and Howie Fryling. Oh, you played on the same American Legion team. We were pretty good and then we had a guy named that. We had a guy named Adam Noakh who was our catcher and I think he pitched sometimes. We had uh Stup Cohen who was our third basement Jules Levis Jesse Levis Is bro played center, Chuck Herbert played right field, and uh one of the games, my man Pat McManaman pitched, who I went to grade school with. I don't even remember that.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, man.

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Speaker 4: This is the seven eighty three and limit the Columbia versus the Brotherhood Brotherhood.

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Speaker 5: That's not very PC, is it or is it? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Then Laudeslager versus Bustleton on six'. ONE i had a couple of doubles in some.

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Speaker 3: HOMERS i would think In legion, ball you tore it up pretty.

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Speaker 5: GOOD i, did. Okay were you switch?

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Speaker 1: Hitting?

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Speaker 5: Then oh, YEAH i started switching at age. Ten my dad almost made me.

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Speaker 4: Quite one of the Coaches joe, mcgillan who was a coach at The Crispin, gardens wanted me to hit right handed BECAUSE i was hitting nine.

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Speaker 5: Hundred you, KNOW.

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Speaker 4: I didn't make any outs and My dad's, like you're a switch. Hitter you must switch. HIT i, Said, Dad i'm hitting right. Hand and then the coach won't let me do. It so my dad went and had a chat with the. Coach he, goes my son will not playing for you anymore unless you let him switch, it AND i started.

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Speaker 5: SWITCHING i feel like.

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Speaker 2: A Former big leaguer as your dad can go up to a coach and and make that, Happen whereas if it was like, me they'd be.

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Speaker 3: Going, listen, Guy.

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Speaker 1: Gay what do you know about?

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Speaker 3: It do you? Ever do you ever play at a high?

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Speaker 5: Level my? Dad my?

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Speaker 4: Dad my dad rarely got, involved but he got. It he got involved a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit.

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Speaker 3: Especially, YEAH i side with the Coach.

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Speaker 1: Roop and by the, way he's trying to win ball games in the. Now your father was trying to develop a switch hitter for the. Future i'm in the, now SO i side with the coach of The loud And schliger. Nine AND i have a. QUESTION i have a question about The loud And schlager. Nine did they play a sharper brand of defense than these phillies because it is mind blowing and. Troubling it's not the, errors it's just the little things that fall through the, cracks the plays that don't get, made the extra pitchers that the pitchers, throw they're not backing up home played the given the extra. Base it is not championship, quality major league, quality whatever you want to call it is.

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Speaker 5: TROUBLING i don't disagree with.

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Speaker 4: You they do need to be better at the little, things because you're, right championship teams play the game well at you, know up you'll notice the teams that are playing good. Baseball you know the team that comes to, mind or The, giants just because we just saw them and the way they go about it and the way they're.

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Speaker 5: Playing you just have to be able to do.

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Speaker 4: THAT a team like The Tampa Bay Rays Kevin cash is always making and they're playing them here this week In Saint pete or In. TAMPA i guess Stamp branner. Field but you have to be able to play good quality. Baseball can't give extra, outs and that really hurts. It it has that domino. Effect extra pitches puts guys in a tough. Spot you just you just have to be a little.

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Speaker 5: Tighter you gotta be.

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Speaker 1: Back you don't back up a base as the runner goes up ninety feet he. Scores you don't get to a ground, ball you don't turn a double. Play know that was a top top double, Play Corbin carroll out to. Play but a, sharp sharp team turns that double. Play a Like baum gotta keep that ball in the. Infield Jose alvarado's got to back up home. Plate you, know ground ball goes through the hard. Shortstop it's just mind.

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Speaker 2: Blowing, yeah, fundamentally this team at times kind of it scratches your head BECAUSE i you see.

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Speaker 3: See them out there pretty much every day.

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Speaker 5: They work on. It THEY.

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Speaker 2: I am not questioning the, work AND i know you're not questioning. It i'm just saying that's kind of what makes it.

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Speaker 3: Puzzle i'm just like.

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Speaker 1: That game could have should have even though they fell behind seven to one On, sunday if they played a sharper brand of, defense they win that.

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Speaker 5: Game it could have been a monumental.

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Speaker 1: Wine you come back from seven down or six, down you win the ball, game you sweep the, series and it just kind of gave. IT i just, thought when you do a deep look at that, game you gave it.

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Speaker 2: Away, yeah that was the first time they had a chance to come win their first game after being down by six. RUNS i think it was Since september of twenty twenty one against The, pirates it. Was it was a long time. Ago last time they've overcome and won a game being down by six or more. Runs so They you're, Right, jim that would have, been that would have.

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Speaker 3: Been that would be so.

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Speaker 1: Good like you want a. Series that's a good, thing.

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Speaker 5: Right, Right and they did play generally well against those.

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Speaker 4: Guys but but, yeah when you got a chance to win a game like that and you come, back you love to finish it. OFF i think at the end of the, day they they're okay with winning two out of, Three BUT i MEAN i talked To krucky a little bit about it after the, game and it's, like hey, man you got a chance to win those.

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Speaker 5: Games win.

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Speaker 4: Them they're important. Too you, know two out of three is, great but three out of three is.

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Speaker 1: Better and the, defense, like you, know, okay it costs you a chance to sweeper. Series it's not even that that that kind of gnaws at me as much as what's going to happen in the future if the stuff continues to.

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Speaker 3: Loom, yeah you've talked about that, Before.

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Speaker 2: Jim where you can't help but think About october and you know how the defense kind of makes you a little, Nervous and, yeah those those plays do pop up and you.

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Speaker 3: Wonder you can't, help but think.

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Speaker 2: Ahead you can't, help but think about big spot in AN nlds game OR nlcs game Or World series.

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Speaker 5: Game if they, can't you need a double. Play.

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Speaker 4: Man that double play needs to be turned for so many different. REASONS i also have been questioning sort of like the positioning of certain, guys especially in SO i guess the idea, is And i've heard this now a few. Times the idea is that they want to play the defense in the position that they'd rather risk not getting a double play and be able to get the lead runner right in a situation and where there's double play where you would typically back in the day play double play.

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Speaker 5: Death now they play deeper instead of a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Shallower they play deeper to be able to cut off the potential of a ball maybe getting through a hole somewhere going first to second or, first first and. Third they just get the one out then risk getting the double. Play so you see guys playing in positions that aren't double play. Depth they play, deeper and they play off the base based on the hitter and the, situation.

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Speaker 5: AND i DON'T i don't like. IT i guarantee.

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Speaker 4: You when a picture rolls a soft ground ball through the middle of the field and you're playing a right handed pole hitter in the shortstops in the sixth, hole and that's a ground, ball that would be easily a double.

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Speaker 5: Play And i'm assisted double, play you, know, six six 's, THREE i guarantee. You or same with the four guy.

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Speaker 3: In the four.

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Speaker 4: Hole, uh and the balls rolled up the, middle that would be easily a feed to the shortstop for a double. PLAY i guarantee the pitchers are not happy about, that.

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Speaker 5: Because you love to get. Too you want to get two outs of one. Pitch, Huge and even.

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Speaker 1: In the tenth didn't it seemed like uh with the ghost runner on, second seemed Like turner was very shitty to the bag and he was trying to work the runner a little. Bit but that ground balls kind of through the heart of home plate of our shortstop and then.

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Speaker 4: It was and AND i think he was trying to hold him on Because ravarado was not mixing up his. Looks but you got to bounce. BACK i was talking about that the guy was best at that Was Andrelton. Simmons Andleton simmons was the best at being active and being able to get back to his. Spot and you, know you have to be sort of have to do two.

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Speaker 5: Things you have two.

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Speaker 4: Responsibilities keep the guy a little, close but make sure you're in back in your position when the balls. Hit so AND i didn't see the whole, thing but, yeah the, ball that ball didn't look like it you, know it didn't look like it was hit all that, hard and it hit it was sort of would have been the backhand side of a trade.

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Speaker 1: Turner and that's When alvarado doesn't back up home And naylor moves up the. Second you should have throze him at first and moving up that extra, base you, know turns into a. Run and earlier in the, game ranger doesn't even look at the guy at second and he walked Practically predomo like walks over to third.

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Speaker 4: Base, Yeah, perdomo just say and that's and that's what this is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah those those are the kind of slop sloppy things that that should not, happen and they have to be taped.

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Speaker 2: Up, Yeah, ruby you talking about the positioning and how that's got to kill a.

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Speaker 3: Picture it's it's the.

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Speaker 2: Same it was kind of the same thing with the shift, forever, Right like you, know they would have the guy shifted over on one side. Infield and even if you could tell the picture, listen, man this is going to save you this many runs or this is how this is going to help. You but that one time a routine ground ball goes over the shortstop spot and that guy's on the other side of set and base or.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, uh the pitcher doesn't want to hear it because they did their.

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Speaker 4: Job, YEAH i MEAN i agree with shading and just anticipating tendencies and stuff like, that but you, know certain situations change the way you should be playing in the. INFIELD i know that there's all this ANALYTICAL bs that's put, together AND i call it some of THE bs because the picture doesn't usually throw the pitches at the spot. TYPICALLY i, mean all things have to line up for the analytics to, work and and and AND i understand, it BUT i you, know the whole positioning of of of. GUYS i think if you just let the players who watch the game and know should know the, hitters they should know the, hitters they should know the. Tendencies they should have an understanding of these. Guys they've seen them for many of them for many many, years not all of, them but like they should know those. Tendencies AND i think while there's would be some influence from the analytics, FOLKS i don't think it's a tell.

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Speaker 5: ALL i think the.

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Speaker 4: Guys on the field should should have the leeway to be able to do what they want to.

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Speaker 1: Do and sometimes it could. Depend you, know your positioning can be depress, step a half, step can depend on the pitch that is being called in the middle of the. Field you can you can look at you used to be able to look at the fingers that you can hear it. Now but you know shading and you know de. Positioning sometimes that can fall when it doesn't work for you can fall under the breaks of the. Game not backing up a base not paying attention to a base, runner not keeping the ball on. Infield those are not breaks of the. Game those are.

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Speaker 2: Good, so, uh you know, what It's. MONDAY i, figured let's let's start with. This we're gonna get into some game stuff from the weekend and. Whatet but let's Let's It's, monday so it's time For Best Week Manco Manco Best Week Manco manco Man, yes, Absolutely Manco. Manco Best week is where we pick our Best philly's, performance play, moment whatever we want it to.

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Speaker 3: Be does anybody want to lead us? Off? Jim why don'd you lead? US i Think ruben led us off last.

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Speaker 1: Time you don't want to lead. Off i'm telling you you don't want to work to count grind this at.

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Speaker 3: Bat, Yeah i'm more of a first pitch.

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Speaker 1: Hacker you. Know you better make sure that's a meatball down the, middle.

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Speaker 3: Four, three easy.

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Speaker 5: Out you.

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Speaker 2: KNOW i will probably talk about him a little bit more in a. Bit but my best Week i'm gonna go With Aaron.

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Speaker 3: Nola uh Er.

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Speaker 2: Nola On saturday, night about an hour before the, game is an the weight room and he feels his neck tighten up and as the way he described, it, SAYS i wanted it to, pop but it would not. POP i don't kind of know what that, means BUT i guess he just felt it tighten. Up The phillies were very concerned about his ability to pitch On saturday, night so they Activated rangers swore as a day.

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Speaker 3: Early they activated.

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Speaker 2: It they made that, announcement maybe just a couple of minutes before first. Pitch But Aaron nola goes out, There they work on his, neck he goes out, there pitches six score chi has his best fastball of the, season and the last two, starts two starts last week against The, cubs who lead baseball and runs per, game and The, diamondbacks who are like top, six top seven in baseball and runs per game one run in thirteen. Innings So Aaron nola is my, manco, manco best of the, best. SOLID i, mean you think about how you think about how Where Aaron, again we'll probably talk about him a little bit, later but you think about those first five, starts zero and, five, six, four, five e, ra everybody, wondering everybody kind of Killing Aaron, nola and he's he seems to be bouncing, back and he seems to be improving as he gets deeper into the, season as and as the weather warms, up there we go nice going.

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Speaker 4: TALK i like.

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Speaker 5: It what do you got, There, James i'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to give a slice of my Man manco pie to Tie Taiwan. Walker he gets a slice of the pie because you, know he went from a guy that everybody's hating, on wanting to, release not sure if he's going to make the, team not sure if he was a long, man not sure grow cobwebs in the bullpen TO. U you, know he's in the, rotation and he filled in for six starts and the ball club went three and three in those six starts and might have Went ford too If Bryce harper makes that play the other night and what turned out to Be walker's final start before going to the. Bullpen SO i just think the guys showed a lot of character and from coming from where he came from and did a good job filling in for range As suarez, Here so he gets my he gets a slice of the make Ho.

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Speaker 5: Manco, Well i'm going to the other slides to The. GERMAN i don't know if he eats.

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Speaker 4: Pizza But Max steppler is going to get a little love for, me Because max has actually picked it up quite nicely last week or so swung the bat pretty, well back to back days of home, runs swinging the back pretty, aggressively starting to look like the guy that made those minor adjustments in spring training and was really pounding the ball over the. Ballpark you, know he's a really good. Defender he's playing really well seamless and left. Field he's made some pretty good. Plays he's really. Solid he even played a little center field. Yesterday you, know he's doing you, know he obviously plays has plays a great right, field but him making that adjustment to left, field and you, know there's a lot of talk, about you, know The phillies ran it back and it didn't make any adjustments in the in the lineup and that kind of. Stuff, well if guys Like Alec bohm And harper were swinging the bats like they typically would in the first month and a half of the season or month of the, season then this team would be lighting it. Up and the fact that they haven't and they're still over five hundred and still you, know still well within reach of THE Nl east and in a position to still make, RUNS i think that's a big. Thing and Then kepler's starting to really contribute in that area and lengthen out that, lineup and So i'm going to give him.

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Speaker 5: A little love for his. Work and he's the best of the week for. Me that's a good.

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Speaker 3: Call that's a great. ONE i think he's.

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Speaker 1: BENEFITING i think he's. Benefiting AND i agree he's swinging it, WELL i, mean especially against right, handers and he looks like he's really happy with the contributions he's. Making his body language is really, good and you you you wonder if like it really agrees with. Him he doesn't have to be the man on this, team you know WHAT i, mean he just has, to no, doubt a, good, solid complimentary piece that helps you win ball. Games and and he's doing. That so, yeah he's ACTUALLY i just like the way he's getting through. Balls he didn't get through that one late in the game when he flied out to center field, yesterday it just, missed didn't get didn't really finish this.

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Speaker 5: Extension, yeah and a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Other at bats he really is getting that, extension bopping him into the. Seats so doing a good.

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Speaker 3: Job, well why would we're talking About Max?

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Speaker 2: CUPPER i wanted to ask you guys this because you know everybody the lineup comes out every bit every, day and you, KNOW i get immediate feedback from from the masses about what's going on with the. Lineup So Max kepler the other night and they as set was It friday? Night Friday, night he hits the go, ahead the game winning home run off The Jose castio.

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Speaker 3: Just crushes the ball to right, field game winning home.

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Speaker 2: Run and before that at bat had really struggled against lefties this.

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Speaker 3: SEASON i think he was batting.

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Speaker 2: One seventy four off, lefties one, double one, walk eight, strikeouts four to twenty six. Ops and so after the, Game Rob thompson has, asked you, know do you think.

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Speaker 3: You know you got a lefty going On? Sunday and what A?

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Speaker 2: Rodriguez do you think you're going to start him On? Sunday he's, Like i'm going to Start Weston wilson On. Sunday, well why is? That, well because Because max is really swinging a good bat right, now AND i want to make sure he keeps swinging a good bat right. Now and Then sunday rolls, around of course he's not in the, lineup even though he has good career numbers against.

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Speaker 3: Edwardo, riguez really, good really good.

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Speaker 2: Numbers now he hadn't faced him Since april twenty, two so it's he hasn't faced him for three. Years SO i don't who knows what those numbers.

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Speaker 3: MEAN i, mean guy, Three max is different than he was three years. Ago at What rodriguez is different than he was three years? Ago so what does that? MEAN i don't.

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Speaker 2: Know but the question, is and this goes back TO i Remember Larry boa talking about this as manager with When Chase utley was coming, up And Ryan howard And Charlie, manuel same. Thing this question has been getting asked. Forever left handed, hitter left handed pitcher on the, mound left handed hitter is going really, Well, well why aren't you playing him and getting them?

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Speaker 3: Going?

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Speaker 2: WELL i want to keep them, going you, Guys what do you guys think about? That the keeping the guy, hot maybe kitting by, sitting by sitting, him it really gets people.

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Speaker 3: Going AND i get.

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Speaker 2: IT i get it because on one, hand The phillies said when they Signed Max, kepler this guy can be an everyday. Player we believe he can hit left handed. Pitching he's hit left handed pitching in the. Past, okay he hasn't done it so. Far but here's an opportunity On sunday and he doesn't get.

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Speaker 1: It i'm fine with sitting him because you, want like you want to protect him a little bit and keep him, hot and there's a chance he's going to come off the bench and still get his set bats later like he. Did so you know it's about sometimes you get a tough lefty and and you're, hot and all of a, sudden the next day you're cold because you know he something gets a miss AND i want to see you develop a bad, habit but you, know you just trend off your hot streak a little. BIT i Mean reuber were on The phillies in the late. NINETIES i remember the team opened up In arizona And Randy johnson was on the, mound AND i Think Frank ConA held Out bobby A breo on opening day just because A breo had swung it really good in camp and he just didn't want to get him in a funk on opening.

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Speaker 5: Day you remember, That DID i play that? GAME i might have, played you might have.

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Speaker 1: PLAYED i GOT i should come back dead.

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Speaker 5: Of, bobby BECAUSE i, Mean i'm better Than i'm right.

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Speaker 4: Hand AND i THINK i was like one for four Against Randy johnson in my career something like.

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Speaker 5: That, anyway it doesn't. Matter my point is your point is a good. One it. IS i think it depends on the, player depends on the.

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Speaker 4: SITUATION a lot of it is just getting the other guys in the. GAME i, mean to, me west And wilson's got to play a little Bit. Weston wilson gets a couple of the bats and then all of a, Sudden banging has a great.

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Speaker 5: Day he got to give some love.

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Speaker 4: To, him you, know a little, uh gotta give him a little manco manco love, too just because she hadn't played a whole. Lot he gets a hanging, break the, ball hits a huge home, run has a couple of good you, know maybe he doesn't maybe that doesn't happen if he doesn't start the. Game maybe he's not in. Rhythm maybe he doesn't get a big base. HIT i, mean you got to get everybody in there and give them opportunities to. Play when do you get to play the? Guy you gotta get him in. There and it was good to. Say See Bryce harper get off his, feet hit a rocket to left that was. Huge he had a bullet home run to left against the, lefty great. Sign he hadn't been staying in. There he'd been pulling off a little, bit trying to do too. Much he knows he's not, performing you, know the way he needs to, perform and all that stuff will probably maybe get into, that BUT i, mean you sort of need to get everybody an opportunity to. Play you're gonna need everybody to contribute at some, Point so Get Wilson wilson in there. First but but you, know but then you know to Put shore brout and, left then move around a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit you, Know i'm good with.

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Speaker 1: Us you're. Right it gives you a chance to keep your roster, shop you, know the whole.

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Speaker 5: Roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you, know earlier in the, season everybody's, like how Can rob not play At Mundo sosa every? Day he's got to find this now, anytime, Right Mundo sosa plays second? Base why is he Sitting bryce and stop?

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Speaker 4: EXACTLY i, mean, yeah you, know how come we don't take him out For alec Folm Wells and if Balan pom doesn't get right, there it's gonna be troublesome for.

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Speaker 1: Them when is he gonna Get he's an important.

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Speaker 4: Right the thing That i've Noticed ac and you, know it's almost LIKE i wish we could go back in time a little, bit BECAUSE i Think Charlie manuel did an amazing job With Ryan howard in the lower minor leagues of being able to turn the field on him a little. Bit Ryan howard really didn't hit hit a lot of balls to the pull side when he first came through the minor. Leagues a lot of his, power, obviously and he saw a lot of home runs opposite field and drive the ball the opposite. Way But charlie sort of turned the field a little bit for, him much like he did With Jim, tomy and he allowed him to make more consistent contact out. Front Alec bone doesn't make a lot of consistent contact out. Front he hits the ball back in his you, know back in his stance a little, bit and thus he hits a lot of balls the other, way puts a bat on the, ball gets hits that. Way but you'd like to see him get some extension out front, too which he has not been able to. Master and he's been in the league four or five years, now So i'd like to see him a little bit a little bit more. Outfront every once in a.

00:26:02
Speaker 1: While even his inside out, swing WHICH i will remind you produced ninety seven RBIs last year for that inside out swinging worked and when he got a hangar he did turn on. It not seeing any of that even to the even to the opposite field on the inside out, swing which was his bread and. Butter it's really head scratching.

00:26:25
Speaker 5: Because he's got a lot of he's got a lot of, leverage he's got a lot of. POWER i, Mean, rob we just haven't we haven't seen a whole lot of.

00:26:32
Speaker 1: It one extra, base one extra, base one extra, base hitting eleven.

00:26:35
Speaker 2: Games, yeah that was going to say that was Yesterday sunday was his first extra base hit Since april. Twentieth, JIM i found it the game you're referring, To Opening, Day april, fourth two, Thousand Randy, Johnson Bobby, bray you on the, bench starts a game on the.

00:26:52
Speaker 3: Bench who's playing right? Field not?

00:26:55
Speaker 5: You, Kevin.

00:26:58
Speaker 3: Kevin sepsick?

00:26:59
Speaker 5: Start, oh what do you? Call he probably got a couple of. Hits you get in with.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: You kevin sefseg actually went oh for. Three Rob doocey pinch hit for him at one. Point Bobby rao pinch hit later in the, game had a base knock and his only his At. Batchard, Yeah, jim good.

00:27:15
Speaker 5: MEMORY i was that was my second year as a SYSTEM gm with.

00:27:19
Speaker 1: That oh, okay you were wearing a tie, Then.

00:27:23
Speaker 5: Oh, YEAH i was shooting. IT i was suited.

00:27:25
Speaker 3: Up there we. Go, uh let's see, here.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: Guys do you see the the offense kind of maybe getting on track a little?

00:27:36
Speaker 1: Bit?

00:27:38
Speaker 3: Uh last eight nine.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: GAMES i was just looking at some. NUMBERS i, mean they were talking so much about slug and his team's. Slogging they've hit, THIRTEEN i think thirteen home runs in their last eight, games so it seems to be coming.

00:27:51
Speaker 3: Around are you feel a little bit better about the? Offense?

00:27:54
Speaker 1: Yeah came this homestand, Right, yeah, yeah.

00:27:59
Speaker 5: YEAH i Think Terry turner's doing a nice. Job he's getting.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: Hits he's not driving the ball a whole, lot he's not his extra base hits, hurt but he's getting on.

00:28:06
Speaker 5: Base he's getting, hits and he's he's scoring. Runs that's his, job and that's a good.

00:28:11
Speaker 4: SIGN i, mean, listen the offense is gonna go Once harper gets, rolling and he's just too important part of the piece of the. Puzzle shober's been. OUTSTANDING i think he's been really. Good he had a little blip there for about you, know five, days and that's gonna. Happen he's gonna go into a strikeout mode from time to, time but he's.

00:28:32
Speaker 5: Done he's done extraordinarily.

00:28:33
Speaker 4: Well AND i think it's important for him to be hitting Behind harper right. NOW i think, overall although he's slowed up a little, BIT i Think stott's done a nice job and And turner's really picked it.

00:28:46
Speaker 5: Up so, hey they got to get the big boy.

00:28:50
Speaker 4: Going and when the big boy gets, going this offense is really gonna start to.

00:28:55
Speaker 5: CLICK i. Think.

00:28:56
Speaker 2: YEAH i talked With bryce a little bit On saturday, afternoon then he talked again On sunday evening after the. Game talked about his just where he's been the last couple of. Weeks you, know The phillies, have LIKE i, said they have won three straight, series but he hasn't really contributed much until. Yesterday he hits that first inning home run and they add a single, walk scores a couple of, runs but he's just feeling.

00:29:19
Speaker 3: Frustrated you can see.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: It he talked about, it and you, know you, know he likes to fiddle around with his swing a. LOT i took a little a couple of screen grabs from his. Bets i'll show you, guys if you're watching on, YouTube you can see. This the on the left there Is bryce On, thursday and then there you can see him On friday on the right hand side of the.

00:29:42
Speaker 3: Screen he kind of, like.

00:29:43
Speaker 4: Just look at that bad anglele it's a little different bad, angle.

00:29:48
Speaker 2: A completely different bad. Angle AND i, said, so what's going? On what's going? On, well he, goes come, on you, know you KNOW i like to fiddle. Around you, Know i'm always bats, Gloves uh, yeah, gloves no. Gloves and he said he got Into he TOOK bp outside on On, friday which is uh a.

00:30:12
Speaker 3: Rarity rarity a lot of.

00:30:14
Speaker 2: Guys you, Know otani never TAKES bp. Outside trade doesn't really hit outside that. Much bryce doesn't hit outside that. Much but he TOOK bp outside On, friday and he said he just he was just kind of filling. Around he said it he felt like he was more on, TIME i guess with that. Stand so he just took it in the into the into the.

00:30:33
Speaker 3: Game On. Friday he had he was one.

00:30:35
Speaker 2: For four hit a couple of balls, hard and before the game On, saturday he, SAYS i don't know If i'm going to use it the night or. Not, well he didn't use it On saturday and he didn't use it On, sunday so it's kind of a one shot. Deal but certainly he seems to be searching for. SOMETHING i asked, HIM i, said are you searching for? Something you seem to be searching for. Something he, goes, no, no, No i'm not searching for. SOMETHING i actually feel pretty.

00:30:54
Speaker 3: Good but.

00:30:58
Speaker 2: You, Know i'm missing the pitches over the plate And i'm chasing too, much AND i just need to get back to hitting the pitches over the plate and not chasing too. Much so it sounds pretty, easy but it's.

00:31:10
Speaker 8: Not see hit as a, Strike yeah, Exactly, yeah, right easier for, usually though easier for, him usually easier for.

00:31:21
Speaker 2: Him And rob said before the game On, sunday is like, that this is the last GUY i worry.

00:31:26
Speaker 3: About you know.

00:31:28
Speaker 2: Too you know there's a lot of guys on this team you just, mentioned we just talked About boom and and you know a lot of different guys you could be worried. About but But Bryce harper for, me is not one of. THEM i went On Baseball reference On sunday and just looked.

00:31:44
Speaker 3: For similar twelve game.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: Slumps he's had a bunch of these slumps where he had one Last july where he was even, worse and then he hit like three point fifteen with like a nine hundred ops from like the first week Of august through the end of the.

00:31:59
Speaker 3: Season so.

00:32:02
Speaker 5: He's gonna be.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: Fine and those those Quotes, Todd i'm missing, PITCHES i should be, Hitting i'm chasing too. Much he has said those exact things a number of times over His phillies. Tenure he, will he will get it. Going the GUY i am confused about his, Bone, YEAH.

00:32:23
Speaker 2: I mean, YEAH i REALLY i thought there for a while he was starting to kind OF i thought he was kind of starting to heat. Up but, yeah it really hasn't happened. That, yeah the, double the fact that the double was the first extra base, hit and like you, Said jim eleven games or.

00:32:37
Speaker 3: Something, really but he.

00:32:38
Speaker 5: Did get a huge hit. YESTERDAY i MEAN i know he, did no doubt he got a big base hit.

00:32:42
Speaker 4: Yesterday AND i know his first pitch because he swings in a lot of first pitches with men in scoring. Position but he does drive in some. Runs he got a big base. Hit you got to give him some love for. That, yeah it hit some balls. HARD i mean they don't all even, out and early in the season when he was hamming him the ball right at, people wears on you a little. Bit it's been it's going to take a while because he had such a slow start to get him worked out of. It BUT i LIKE i, say every single, year you don't find out what kind of year the guy is gonna have until he's up to about two hundred at. Bats in this day and, age you got to get to about two hundred plate appearances and that's when you know where you. Are they're probably about one hundred and.

00:33:24
Speaker 5: Twenty one hundred and twenty five plate appearances right.

00:33:26
Speaker 1: Now, Hunter i've seen. It i've seen him be really. Good i'm a bone, believer and you, know maybe you're. Right, yes see you have a big. Hit maybe it's a sign he'll get going here because they really need that.

00:33:38
Speaker 4: Guy they sure do they need that right handed punch because you're not you, Know casianos can be streaty of, times and he's been fairly steady this. Year he's, done he's done a nice, job had a good, start but you're not getting a ton of production FROM jt right. Now so the right handed, guys they're gonna have to step.

00:33:59
Speaker 5: Forward And boem is one of.

00:34:01
Speaker 2: Them, yeah AND i know this doesn't mean it's going to happen For Alec. Bohm but On may On may fifth last, Season Nick castianos was batting one eighty five with a, yeah, YES i mean remember, that the same thing was.

00:34:17
Speaker 3: Going you, know you can't. Play they got to bench. HIM i don't know Why rob won't bench.

00:34:21
Speaker 2: Him kind of the same thing we're here With alc Bahlm, like you, know why doesn't Ed Mundo sosa play some more third, base or why don't they you, know put you, know Play Wilson Wes wilson at third base or or whatever the case may. Be Nick castianos is the same exact spot last. Year then he got hot and he was one of the better hits the rest of the. Way it can, Happen Alec. BOHM i don't know if it's going to Happen Alec. Bohm phillies really hope it's going to Happen Alec.

00:34:44
Speaker 4: BOHM i, mean IF i was going TO i was going to be a betting. Man IF i was a betting, MAN i would say it Would. Yeah the guy's got too many he's got too many hitting skills to be able to be held down.

00:34:54
Speaker 3: That, long, Right, Right so The, phillies we.

00:34:59
Speaker 1: Didn't even talking About. Ranger what do we take a? Ranger, yeah, yeah, yeah early earlier hit in early.

00:35:05
Speaker 5: Wall, yeah, yeah it's exactly what. Happened AND i said they talked about him not pitching well out of the. Stretch, well he. Ran he ran out of gas pretty.

00:35:17
Speaker 4: Quickly as far as his stuff and his, crispness he was outstanding the first two, innings really really.

00:35:23
Speaker 5: GOOD i really liked WHAT i.

00:35:25
Speaker 4: Saw and then and then bang bang, bang and all of a sudden he was in.

00:35:30
Speaker 5: Trouble, yeah that's a. Concern it's a little.

00:35:33
Speaker 4: Concern but, again he's, BUILT i get you, know we'll see in his next couple of starts he's if he's sharper as he gets into the, third, fourth fifth.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: Inning it put him in a buying, though because then they had to Run alvarado out there for a second. Inning and you, KNOW i want to ask you guys about this Because, alvarado NOW i think it's three appearances this season Through may fourth that he has pitched multiple innings and up entering this, SEASON i don't think HE i think he did it for the last. Time it was in twenty twenty. Three SO i just think of a guy who's he's had some elbow issues in the, past nothing, major but he's been shut down for a little while here and, there and he throws. Hard we know, This but now there's been three appearances in the first month of the season that he's gone multiple. Innings is that's something that concerns, you, Guys, WELL i don't want.

00:36:20
Speaker 1: To be doing it a lot because he's already pitched in like half their. Games you, know, right he's very. Important this is where you need a supporting. Cast you don't have to lean on to. Win Correct it's where you need to start to take you through the middle, inning so you have to deplete your bullpen at. All is a domino. Effect this is where you need to shortstop to get to a. Ball so you, know maybe in the tenth, inning the inning doesn't get away From. Alvarado it's just everything is. Connected BUT i don't want to be wearing out this. Guy you know before before the, weather it even gets.

00:36:54
Speaker 3: Hot, yeah no. DOUBT i mean it's.

00:36:58
Speaker 4: Yeah you're right about the supporting. Cast romano's pitching a little bit. BETTER i think he's getting a little bit more mojo his last few. OUTINGS i mean he's thrown some scoreless out, there so that's that's a good. Thing it's it's super. Sharp, no but he's done well and he's starting to pick it, up AND i think he's starting to feel a little bit better, about you, know his. Contributions kirkham's got to get. Better he was in, early in the early part of the. Game he's got to be. Better all those guys have to be better so that.

00:37:23
Speaker 5: They can take a little heat off my Man. Alvarado and it'll be.

00:37:28
Speaker 4: Interesting to see how much and where Uh Taiwan walker's going to be. Used whether it's going to be in the, tight whether it's gonna be in the, middle whether it's going to be early, long who.

00:37:38
Speaker 1: Knows tony GOT i got a newsletter idea for.

00:37:42
Speaker 3: You, okay what do you got On?

00:37:44
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00:38:07
Speaker 2: Great callat' always looking for a newsletter items for my for my newsletter which comes out.

00:38:12
Speaker 3: TODAY i got. It, ACTUALLY i got kind of a fun one.

00:38:15
Speaker 2: Today lozardo's been pitching so, great AND i found an old interview when he was with The a's and he was talking about how he is super regimented in his pre start routine and how he has to be here at a certain.

00:38:28
Speaker 3: Time he has to be there at a certain time and go and that's that sounds a lot Like Roy.

00:38:32
Speaker 2: Halliday but the difference is is That roy was just super regimented and he just had to know where he was at every moment every. Day lozardo is just. Superstitious so he starts his prey start two hours and twenty, minutes like wherever you.

00:38:48
Speaker 3: Start Why because he is a big.

00:38:51
Speaker 2: Fit he believes in the numbers four and eight are good, luck so two plus two and two hours and twenty minutes equals.

00:38:58
Speaker 3: Four he.

00:39:00
Speaker 2: Leaves he walks onto the field before the, game it has to add that the time he walks onto the field has to add up to a, four the time he makes his first throw on the field has to add up to a four or an. Eight, so for, instance On, FRIDAY i, think what did he Pitch friday? Night, Yeah friday night he made his first throw on the field for a six forty five start at six point twenty.

00:39:29
Speaker 3: Pm because six plus two is.

00:39:31
Speaker 5: Eight that's.

00:39:32
Speaker 3: Right so actually a lot of other stuff in, There so check that out.

00:39:37
Speaker 2: Today and The Phillies beat newsletter is kind of a kind of a fun, one you.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: KNOW i think people will enjoy. That so but let's let's wrap this up real. QUICK i want to.

00:39:46
Speaker 2: Go phillies open a three game Series tuesday night against The rays At GEORGE.

00:39:51
Speaker 3: M Steinbrenner.

00:39:51
Speaker 2: Field Zach wheeler On tuesday night seven oh five, Start Zach wheeler Versus Drew. Rasmussen wednesday night an oh five Pm Christopher sanchez Against Shane Boz And thursday night at seven o five pm It's Jesus lizardo Against ryan Uh.

00:40:10
Speaker 3: Ppo so is that How? PEPIO i knew? It, YEAH i knew that was, Wrong.

00:40:17
Speaker 2: Pepio so there you go so a little three game series At George Field.

00:40:23
Speaker 1: Boys i'm, actually, Uh i'm actually the only one here who's been yelled at By George, steinbrener who was yelled at by the late Great George. Steinberner so deal with. It, well what's the.

00:40:35
Speaker 3: Story jim just.

00:40:38
Speaker 1: Yelled at me a few?

00:40:39
Speaker 2: Times you, Know But, jim you covered the Name yankees at you just, like, yeah if.

00:40:45
Speaker 1: You're not getting yelled at by THE gm or the owner not doing your job, Right it's like it's like a third base. Coach he doesn't get anybody thrown. Out you're not being. Aggressive it's Also Steinbrenner Field todd is also the scene of a famous line when For ghost he was yelling at me way back when FOR ghos he's giving me the business before a spring training, Game Larry bowl walks by and goes take it like a, man, Bitch do you have the?

00:41:17
Speaker 5: Line so?

00:41:18
Speaker 3: Great what's?

00:41:19
Speaker 5: That what Did jim? Say that's what he?

00:41:22
Speaker 1: Said, YEAH, forgos he's given me an ear full of over SOMETHING i. Wrote he doesn't like SOMETHING i, wrote and he's given me a kind of a you, know he's kind of verbally laying into me and. Uh And, larry he's over there playing catch and he walks by. Me he looks at me and, goes take it like a, man. BITCH i took it like a. Man what DID i? Give give me?

00:41:45
Speaker 5: One you took it like a, Man. Jim that's why people respected, you.

00:41:48
Speaker 1: MAN i took it like a man. Bitch both both you.

00:41:50
Speaker 5: Guys both you.

00:41:51
Speaker 4: Guys that's why that's Why i'm on this podcast with you, guys BECAUSE i respect you so.

00:41:55
Speaker 2: Much we, got, yeah we've gotten a couple of tongue lashings from time To, Yes jimmy Wanted jim real, quick do you want to do you want to get one of Our steinbrener?

00:42:06
Speaker 1: Stories you told me a few?

00:42:10
Speaker 3: Times he yelled at, yeah but you, KNOW.

00:42:14
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Anything it would take too long to get. Into probably. Yeah well, no, actually actually the funny one IS i think. IT i think one of them had to do with to day for Ghost he was yelling at, Me oh, really but, no maybe it. DIDN'T i don't, Know but, well how about?

00:42:37
Speaker 3: This do you think about?

00:42:38
Speaker 2: It this will be a little teaser for For wednesday's episode FOR.

00:42:42
Speaker 1: Gsi, actually SO i covered For ghosty and then it went to cover The, yankees and one Day forgosi drops the story on. ME i can tell this. Now and it was at that Field Steinburne field us To beak Called Legends, field And Forgos he says to, Me, hey, UH i Heard george fired his farm director. Today you should go check that.

00:43:04
Speaker 3: Out oh really gave me how about?

00:43:06
Speaker 1: That he gave me a BIG i was on the beat for like ten. DAYS i didn't even know who the farm director, was and SO i HAD i Approached george and, Said, GEORGE i you Know i'm hearing you may have let your farm director go. Today and that's when he yelled at, me and he demanded to know HOW i found that? Out AND i, SAID i just you, Know i'm like Mister, GOZO i hit, things you, Know and and he yelled at me and got off to it. Whatever but for those he was the best. Man he was the. BEST i love.

00:43:39
Speaker 5: Forgot bless, Him, god bless he was the.

00:43:42
Speaker 3: Best that.

00:43:43
Speaker 1: Was larry take it like a, man. Bitch he is so.

00:43:49
Speaker 3: Funny uh, well, guys we will be back later this. Week we'll talk Maybe wednesday Or, wednesday will shoot for. Wednesday you, know we'll be.

00:43:58
Speaker 1: Back we went along. HERE i, HOPE i.

00:43:59
Speaker 5: Hope all, right YEAH a long. ONE i gotta go play some golf THE noi.

00:44:03
Speaker 3: All, Right we'll see you guys.

00:44:04
Speaker 5: LATER u smell, You.

00:44:08
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