Healthcare CEO Murder Arrest; Israel Steps up Strikes in Syria

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1) NYC Murder Suspect Was Ivy League Grad Who Praised Unabomber 

2) Israel Steps Up Airstrikes, Sends Troops Deeper Into Syria

3) Hegseth Says Trump Tells Him to ‘Keep Fighting’ for Defense Post

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. Good morning, I'm Nathan 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.800 Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:14.640 following today. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.159 Karen, we begin with an arrest in the murder of 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.880 insurance executive Brian Thompson in New York, and we get 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.040 the very latest now from Bloomberg's John Tucker, John and Nathan. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.680 The alleged killer is twenty six year old Luigi Mangioni. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.600 He was spotted by a customer in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.199 Authorities say in his backpack they found a three D 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.000 printed pistol and a three D printed black silencer. They 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.040 also found a three page manifesto. NYPD Chief of Detectives 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:43.720 Joe Kenny. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.080 We don't think that there's any specific threats to other 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.800 people mentioned in that document, but it does seem that 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.159 he has some ill will toward corporate America. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:57.200 Mangioni attended in elite Baltimore Prep School, graduating as valedictorian 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.040 in twenty sixteen. He went on to earn undergraduate and 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.560 graduate degrees in computer science in twenty twenty from the 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.520 University of Pennsylvania. His family owns a country club north 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.600 of Baltimore. He worked as a data engineer at Truecar. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.720 A survey of his online presence also shows that he 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.600 praised the manifesto of another Ivy League graduate known for 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.040 violent as the Unibomber, and he's going to be extradited 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.560 from Pennsylvania to New York to face murder chargers. Social 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.520 media last night was full of praise for Mangioni, with 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.640 Luigi the top trending topic on X and Free Him 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:35.200 coming in at number seven in New York. Ime John 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.360 Tucker Bloomberg. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.280 Radio, All right, John, thank you well. Turning overseas, Israel 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.319 has stepped up its attacks on military science in Syria, 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.360 striking hundreds of targets across the country. According to multiple reports, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.560 this strikes targeted army bases, airports, and service to air 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:54.240 missile systems. Bloomberg's Stewart Livingstone Wallace says Israel is wary 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.840 of the opposition groups that brought down Bashiral Assad's government. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.080 This seems to be primarily to be by their concerns 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.600 about where all this weaponry ends up. And we are 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:09.560 talking about really really serious amounts of munitions, and that 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.840 also includes weapons of mass destruction. So chemical supplies and 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.720 stock pars and that sort of thing. And we know 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:20.040 Asad was using chemical warfare probably as recently as twenty eighteen, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.239 so it's definitely a real thing. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.360 And Bloomberg Stewart Livingstone Wallace says the Israeli attacks have 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.040 drawn criticism from Arab countries, including Egypt and Saudi Arabia, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.919 which accuses Israel of seeking to occupy more Syrian territory 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.040 and sabotage the country's security and stability. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.799 I Meanwhile, Karen Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natan Yahoo is 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.240 in court today testifying against charges of bribery, fraud, and 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.119 breach of trust in three separate cases. Nasan Yahoo has 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.920 repeatedly requested to delay his testimony because of the conflicts 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.360 rolling the Middle East, but those requests were mostly denied 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:57.160 by the courts. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.160 Now Nathan the politics in the US, Donald Trump's defense 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.120 nominee Pete Haig Seth So, the President elect has told 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.359 him to keep fighting for a Senate confirmation. The former 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.560 a Fox News host, appeared on Fox's Sean Hannity last 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.760 night after meeting with a key Senate Republican, Jony Ernst Doe. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.040 The leftist try to turn this into a trial in 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.200 the media show trial, and we're not going to let 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.320 that happen. I'm going to walk into the door of 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.320 every one of these senators with just as an open book, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.280 willing to answer their questions because they deserve answers. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.440 Pete haig Seth has been looking at bolster his Senate 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:37.440 support amid allegations of sexual misconduct, alcohol abuse, and workplace mismanagement. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.560 After their meeting yesterday, Senator Arn said she'll support haig 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.360 Seth through this process and looks forward to a fair 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.480 confirmation hearing. And another development, President elect Trump has endorsed 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.280 Casey Crosby as co chair of the Republican National Committee. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.720 She would succeed Trump's daughter in law, Lara, who's appeared 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:58.560 open to succeeding Marco Rubio in the Senate. Florida Governor 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.320 Ron De Santis would have to confirm that appointment. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.160 Training the markets now, Karen futures are moving just a 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.240 bit lower after yesterday's declines. On Wall Street, the S 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.200 and P five hundred dropped from a nearly overbought technical level. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.800 Callie Cox is chief market strategist at rid Holt's Wealth Management. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.680 When people talk about valuations in the SMP. Typically they're 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.520 talking about big tech valuations and you have to sort 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.000 out by sector and sector. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:21.920 To really find the value. 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.560 We really like great sensitive sectors here. I think real 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.880 estate is interesting, you know, I think consumer discretionary could 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.400 be interesting, especially if the economy holds up through twenty 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.719 twenty five. Financials you know, of course, have been really 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.839 strong in the back half of the year. You know, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.400 that could also be interesting, especially if the economy surprises 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:40.200 to the upside. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.760 Callie Cox with rid Hoolt's Wealth Management says the next 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.720 key event for markets is tomorrow when we get the 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.000 consumer price index. 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.200 Well. Checking some stocks on the move this morning, Nathan 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.560 Shares of oracle Or down eight and a half percent. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.839 The company did report quarterly revenue in line with estimates, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.839 but that's disappointing investors who have boosted the stock to 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.719 our record high in recent weeks on enthusiasm for the 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.080 company's as send in cloud business. 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.440 Boeing has reportedly restarted production of its Workhorse seven thirty 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.359 seven Max model. Karen Reuter's is reporting production resumed last Friday. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.919 The move follows a month after a strike by thirty 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.680 three thousand factory workers at Boeing that shuttered the planemaker's 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.560 commercial manufacturing well. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.000 Shares of Hershey rose almost eleven percent to start the week, Nathan. 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.039 The surge comes after Bloomberg News report in Manda Lee's 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.839 is considering buying the chocolate maker for fifty billion dollars. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.680 Bloomberg's Crystal Ce broke the story and says any deal 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.520 would face a regulatory scrutiny. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.760 This is a deal that would in a normal circumstance 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:45.360 attract antitrust reviews. So I don't think we're there yet, 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.520 like we said, as a preliminary approach. Also, the other 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.440 thing up to that is unique to the situation is 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.560 that the deal is subject to approval of the Attorney 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:58.120 General in Pennsylvania because of the trust structure, So there 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.479 are a lot of regulatory hurdle on top of the 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:01.200 market hurdle. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.120 Bloomberg's Crystal See says this is the second time Mondaleze 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.520 has looked at acquiring Hershey. In twenty sixteen, it broke 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.200 off talks after its twenty three billion dollars bid was 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:12.960 rejected by the chocolate maker. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.960 Finally, Karen Let's turn to Europe, now where more than 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.719 six hundred senior women in finance are attending Bloomberg's inaugural 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.240 Women Money and Power event in London. The representation of 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.120 women on boards has almost tripled since twenty ten, and 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.799 the most gender diverse companies are delivering higher shareholder returns. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.480 Exclusive analysis by Bloomberg Intelligence shows and developed markets, the 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.720 top twenty percent of companies for a female board membership 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.000 returned to two to five percent, more than the bottom twenty. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.360 CEO and founder of WB Directors, Fiona Haythorne has told 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.359 Bloomberg Radio more sectors are beginning to look for ways 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.719 to get women into leadership roles. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.120 Tech and also private equity. If you think of the 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.919 foots one hundred and particularly financial services, they've had the 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.839 lens of the regulator on them saying, you know, you 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.400 need to do something about the diversity of your teams. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.120 P hasn't had the same lens, but they're coming to 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.120 us and saying, actually, now, what can we do for 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.560 our sixty investing companies. What sort of training should we 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:14.120 do because that industry is very maldominated. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.440 And that was Fiona Haythorn, CEO and founder of WB Directors, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.240 an organization that works to increase diversity in executive and 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.600 non executive leadership. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.520 And it is time now for a look at some 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.560 of the other stories making news in New York and 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.840 around the world. And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:31.520 Michael Barr. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.240 Michael, Good Morning, Good Morning, Karen. Reaction continues after a 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.200 marine veteran who put an agitated subway writer in a 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.600 chokehold on a New York subway has been acquitted in 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.520 the man's death, a man that and jury cleared twenty 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.440 six year old Daniel Penny of a criminally negligent homicide charge. 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.160 That verdie came after a more serious manslaughter charge was 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.400 dismissed because the jury deadlocked on that count. The case 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.240 arose from Jordan Neely's May twenty twenty three death came 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.040 a prism for differing views about public safety. Penny gripped 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.320 Neelie around the neck for about six minutes. Penny's defense 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.600 said he was protecting fellow subway passengers. Thomas Kenneth, a 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.600 lawyer for Penny, spoke in the Manhattan Pub after the verdict. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:15.640 We think that this. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.119 Should happen, probably on day one, but the point things 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:21.080 it happened. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.520 The verdict enraged Neely's father, Andre Zachary. I missed my son. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.000 My son didn't have to go through this sea. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.920 I didn't have to go through the seatom it. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.680 Hurts passengers, had said. Neely, whose family says he struggled 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.760 with homelessness and mental illness, was acting erratically and shouting 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.320 before he was put in a choke hold by Penny 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.040 Music mogul jay Z fired back against accusations that he 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.600 took part in the sexual assault of a thirteen year 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.880 old girl at a two thousand VMA after party. Jay 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.360 Z or Sean Carter, filed emotion yesterday to deny the 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:04.080 plaintiff's quest to remain anonymous, calling for either her identity 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.800 to be disclosed or the civil suit to be dismissed. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:12.480 The case is tied to embattled rapper Sean Dittycomb's United 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:18.880 Nations Secretary General Antonio Guterris condemned deadly gang violence in Haiti. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:23.080 UN spokesperson Stefan Dujarik says more than one hundred eighty 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.320 people were killed in port A, Prince over the weekend. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.559 The Secretary General calls on the Haitian authorities to conduct 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.560 a thorough investigation and ensure that perpetrators to these and 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.439 all other human rights abuses and violations are brought to justice. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.199 The UNS Dujarik says Guteris reiterated his call for financial 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.240 and logistical support to help the Haitian National Police Department 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.640 to address gang violence. Brazilian President Louis Ignatio Lula de 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.640 Silva is an intensive care at San Paulo Hospital after 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:58.360 undergoing emergency surgery. The hospital said Lula felt headaches late 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:03.679 Monday evening and a brain's and showed intracranial hemorrhage resulting 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.520 from the accident he suffered at home in October. Finally, today, 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.240 the Supreme Court here's arguments over a proposed railroad that 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:16.000 would transport millions more gallons of oil along the Colorado River, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:20.800 with opponents arguing the federal government did not properly assess 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.520 environmental risks. The Supreme Court is hearing the classic case 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:29.240 where commercial interests run against the public interest in environmental protection. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.400 Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.960 want it with Bloomberg News. Now. I'm Michael Barr, and 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.160 this is Bloomberg Heron. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:43.000 All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.320 Bloomberg Sports Update brought to you by Trying State County. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.400 Here's John Stashauer, Juhnken Morning. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.520 Good Morning cares about a year ago the nixt maade 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.480 that big trade with the Raptors. Nick certainly pleased with 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.360 what they've gotten from og On and Obi. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:55.600 RJ. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.480 Barrett's played well in his native Toronto. 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It's 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.240 the rangers eighth loss in the last ten Mother Night 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.560 football In Dallas, Bengals and Cowboys were tied when with 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.839 just over two minutes left, Dallas blocked a Cincinnati punt, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.240 but tried to recover and return it instead fumbled it, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:37.120 so Cincinnati kept possession and struck Leeate went in town 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:42.480 and left Borrow sideline Chase Span Here he goes Jamart, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:47.199 Chase chat Is Mutch Tom Bengals ESPN. The call was 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.800 Joe Burrow's third TD pass, who went to Chase, who 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.880 had one hundred and seventy seven yards. The Bengals won 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.320 twenty seven to twenty. Both teams are five and eight. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.120 Dallas won in six at home, beating only the Giants. 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.199 The Baseball Winner meetings underway in Dallas. But whatever takes 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.480 place this week won't top the news of Juan Soda 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.880 leaving the Yankees joining the Mets. Yankees gentlemen jer Brian 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.080 Cashman was on the Yes Network. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:11.960 Yeah, they left it all on the table, and then 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.480 ultimately a player has to make a decision based on, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.480 you know, reasoning that he'll ultimately share. I'm sure everybody's 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.640 gonna want to know, like what led him to go 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.800 that direction versus our direction, versus some other direction? 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:25.080 You know? 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.000 But here in that right, and congrats to him, his 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:30.040 family and the Mets. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.000 And since the Soto news, the odds on the Mets 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.520 winning the World Series improved from plus twelve hundred to 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.720 plus seven hundred. Soto and the Mets will make their 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.080 one twenty twenty five visit a Yankee Stadium a weekend 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.600 series in mid May. John stash that were Bloomberg Sports, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.560 Karen and Ethan. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.720 Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XM, 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.680 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:54.960 Bloomberg Business app. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.760 This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. A 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.680 suspect is now in custody in the murder of United 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.319 Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Twenty six year old Luigi Mangioni 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.480 was tracked down in a Tuna, Pennsylvania, after a five 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.400 day manhunt that exposed a lot of anger against the 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.559 health insurance industry. Here's Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro in some 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:16.440 dark corners. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.040 This killer is being hailed as a hero. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.920 Hear me on this. He is no hero. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.480 Governor Josh Shapiro spoke at a news conference following Mangioni's arrest. 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.319 This morning, We're joined by Bloomberg's Miles Miller. Miles, good morning. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.520 What more have we learned about this alleged killer? Luigi Mangioni. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.440 Yeah, so we know that the Luigi Mangoni is a 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.600 U penn graduate. We know that he comes from a 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.680 wealthy family in Baltimore, and it appears over the last 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:53.040 six to twelve months he has been engaged in basically 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:58.559 writings online about sort of being detached from capitalism and 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.200 really critical of the healthcare system and systems like it, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.640 and so you know that being the motive for this. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.040 He appeared in court last night at a preliminary arrangement 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.200 and that was just on a charge of forgery and 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.720 carrying a gun without a license. He was of course 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:20.160 caught in Altoona, Pennsylvania, at a McDonald's after someone in 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.960 McDonald's recognized him from those photos that were shared by 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:29.080 the FBI and the NYPD. He will be in a 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.200 jail in that area for some time until he's extradited 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:33.800 to New York. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:38.200 And talking about that McDonald's in Altoona, there's been a 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:44.480 lot of online throttling against that franchise after Mangioni was 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.040 caught there. This really seems to have sparked something on 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:49.840 social media. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.320 Miles. Yeah, you know, the really strange thing is that 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:58.560 this is a guy who is anti capitalism, and he's 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.960 caught in McDonald's and and this is a guy who's 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.720 anti capitalism. But you know, the first pictures we got 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.960 of him were from a Starbucks, right, two of the 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.320 biggest companies definitely by a market cap. You know, we 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.800 have seen some of what he's written in as manifesto, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:20.520 and it is clearly against capitalism. And he specifically calls 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.680 out United Healthcare and so you know, there have been 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:29.320 people online who you know, have been talking about issues 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:34.560 with the healthcare system. But certainly no one can be 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:40.840 supportive of violence against a company's CEO based off of 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.680 issues that they had with the healthcare system. And you 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.720 heard that from Josh Shapiro that this is not the 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.400 way we deal with things in this country. 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.480 So the suspect, Manngioni, as you said, is going to 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.080 be held in Pennsylvania for several days, walk us through 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.720 the extradition process back to New York. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.880 How's this going to work? Yeah, So there are two 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.360 ways that extradition happens. The first way is that the 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.200 suspect can waive extradition. If he waves extradiction, he could 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.160 be back in New York in a few short days. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.640 Now if he fights extradition, it'll take about thirty to 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.160 forty five days to get him here. Usually that process 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.600 happens with a judge. You know, Jos Shapiro was at 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.000 the Pennsylvania governor was at that press conference. Usually they 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.720 do what's called the governor's warrant and the two governors, 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.520 Kathy Holkal and Jos Shapiro, will talk, they'll send some paperwork, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.880 and he'll be forced to come here. We haven't gotten 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.560 any indication anyway or the other, but yeah, if he 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.120 contests that, it'll take more than a month to file 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.120 just to file the paperwork to get him to New York. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.760 So in our last thirty seconds, are we expecting much 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.080 to happen over the next several hours? 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.400 In this case, I think we'll expect the NYPD to 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.920 start getting more details about his background. You know, we 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.200 learned that he left that bus terminal in New York, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.320 went to pens to Pennsylvania, first Aphilia, then to Pittsburgh, 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.000 and so we'll find that what happened along the way, 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.719 did he stop anywhere, who did he interact with, what 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.960 did he do? They'll search his home in Baltimore, where 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.120 he had lived with his parents, at one point, they'll 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.960 search his home in Hawaii. They'll talk with friends all 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.879 of it to sort of get in his mind and see, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.399 you know what led him to do this. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.920 Thanks for the smiles. Great having you with us this morning. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.200 Miles Miller of Bloomberg News the latest on the apprehension 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.840 of the suspect in United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson's killing 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.280 in Mintown, Manhattan last week. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.800 Karen Nathan, we want to bring you now to London 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.320 for Bloomberg's inaugur El Women, Money and Power event. We're 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:44.400 speaking to influential female voices and global finance and technology 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:49.040 who are navigating change and disruption across various industries. This morning, 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.680 Bloomberg's Francy and Lockwaw sat down with Franklin Templeton president 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:57.399 and CEO Jenny Johnson. They started their conversation discussing private credit. 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:58.880 Let's listen in. 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.679 Thanks really want to preserve their capital for their biggest 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.000 and best clients, and so it created this opportunity for 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.880 private credit to step in. I think that honestly, low 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.120 interest rates were probably one of the things that fueled 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.119 private equity, but also a bit of the environment where 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.320 I think less and less people want less and less 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.320 companies want to go public. And I don't think that 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.639 trend changes. I don't think. I don't think there's a 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.119 lot of people going, boy, I'd really like to be 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.199 a public company CEO these days. And I think in 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:32.159 a time where you have all these great technological advances 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.960 like AI, where companies need to invest in the technology 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.080 that may not pay off for years, it's really hard 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.720 with the pressure of courtingly earnings, and so in some 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.680 cases transforming a company ends up being better in the 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.399 structure of private equity. So I think like that trend 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.280 is here. I think I'm a big fan of blockchain. 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.400 I think that's going to open up new investment opportunities 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.760 and kind of interesting things. I always say that eventually 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.679 your financial advisors to report your portfolio in three ways. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.479 They're going to say, here's your investment return, here's the 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.480 impact you have, and by the way, here the loyalty 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.679 programs that you've gotten from your tokenized equity ownership that 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.800 have now tied loyalty programs to it. So that's where 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.440 I think things ultimately evolve. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.840 So on blockchain and bitcoin, does that change significantly under 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:22.719 a trumpe administration. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:23.240 Oh for sure. 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:27.679 And again I always make sure you separate bitcoin from blockchain. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.480 Okay, bitcoin different deal. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.639 And you know, I was a skeptic of it initially, 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.760 but a couple things people said to me. One somebody 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.439 who lived in Israel said, my parents and grandparents had 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.080 their money taken away by the government. They will always 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:47.200 keep a portion of their savings in bitcoin. And then 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.320 I had actually an employee who lived in the Middle 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:51.840 East and said, if I say the wrong thing, I 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.840 can have my accounts frozen. So I always keep a 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:59.159 percentage of my earnings in bitcoin. And obviously in the 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.880 kind of key they can keep it protected. So if 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.000 you grow up in a society where you feel your 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.800 money safe, you think that doesn't make any sense and 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.480 why should this external currency come in. But if you 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.080 actually think that there's a lot of the world that 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.000 would like that safety and control, you can see where 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:16.440 bitcoin has a lot opportunity. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:17.480 And then blockchanges. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.879 Again, it's a technology, it's a technology. It's going to 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.719 do a lot of really good things. In financial services. 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.720 A lot of toll takers take a piece of a 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.480 transaction that can eliminate it, and so it's going to 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.280 create more efficiencies, it's going to open up investment opportunities. 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:33.520 Jenny, Do you think that there'll be a catalyst for 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.560 companies to want to go public again or is it 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.359 just private all the way? Is this, you know, the 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.159 trend for the next five ten years. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.040 So I actually think it used to be you go venture, 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.639 private equity, IPO, public markets. I actually think so. I 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:48.600 think that stays, and we see it where people are 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.280 just waiting a lot longer going to go public. But 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.159 at some point people want that liquidity and monetize it, 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.480 and the private markets aren't yet that liquid There's some amount, 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:58.600 But I actually think what you're starting to see is 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:03.280 public companies being taken private because we invest in a 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:08.440 company investment and they have three trillion dollars in assets 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:12.400 by financial advisor platform, right, they need to invest in it. 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.160 It is hard as a public company to make those 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.119 kind of investments and say to the street, hey, by 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:18.560 the way, this is going to impact earnings for the 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:22.439 next eighteen months. So they become private, right, And so 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.240 they were taken private by bank capital and then they'll 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.080 go public, I think again, So I think there's going 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.879 to be this new cycle of pulling people off doing 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.680 the investment that needs to happen, whether it's AI investments 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.480 or whatever, and then going public again. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.879 But do you have a concern on valuations in private markets? 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:38.679 I mean this comes over and over again, but we 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.400 haven't really seen anything. Maybe real estate wan a bit ugly, 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:42.439 but there's nothing huge. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:44.720 Yeah, I mean I actually one of the concerns, you know, 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:48.399 investment grade and even some non investment grade of private 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.119 credit is trading at the same spreads as traditional fixed income, 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.280 Like you get no premium for I liquidity. That worries me, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.200 that kind of thing I think. I mean, fixed income 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.119 markets are price for perfection at the moment, so you know, 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.359 you always have to pick your spots. There's we have 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:10.240 a huge secondaries business. I think that they've deployed this 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.320 current fund with about twenty six percent average discount, has 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:17.400 been seventy percent deployed. And you know what I say 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:19.800 is it's not that the valuations are wrong of the 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.720 private equity. It's that there's not a lot of supply 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.119 to create liquidity in that market because there's not a 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.280 lot of secondaries. 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