TGI – Episode 712 “Family Trees” PART 1

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Speaker 1: Do either of you do anything currently that makes you realize you've not become your parents, because we've all become our parents at this point, but make you realize you've become your grandparents. I oh, absolutely, I recently have become my alma. My dad's mom did a lot of the very traditional grandma things. She had hard candies in her purse. I carry her around lint chocolates. I just serious.

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Speaker 2: You're carrying around chocolates.

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Speaker 1: In your chocolates in my person.

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Speaker 3: She has match box cards, the originals yet in.

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Speaker 1: For them, not for them. It's definitely for me for the lint chocolates in my purse at all times. You never know when you're gonna need a little sweet treat.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm also freezing all the time, freezing. I went to Adler's baseball game the other day and brought a blanket for my lap. Sat at the baseball field with a blankye on my lap.

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Speaker 4: Were you wearing half moon glasses while you were knitting?

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Speaker 3: You're doing great, sweetie.

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Speaker 1: Click. That's the next stage of this. I would like a heating pad, just no matter what temperature it is outside. I have my heat seat heater on. I always call it a heat seed. I don't know why.

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Speaker 4: Susan's the same way. It'll be one hundred degrees and she's like, do you want your heat seater on?

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Speaker 1: Like what, No, you're insane always on. I'm just I don't know what's happening. I'm very old, I'm very much my grandmother. What do you do? Writer?

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Speaker 5: I've just I've embraced that I am. I am Harry Warner, my grandfather, and I.

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Speaker 2: Look like him now and like I look I mean he was bald, but mean that I am. I have become my grandfather.

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Speaker 4: Honest writer.

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Speaker 3: No, but I've got to be honest writer because as when you were younger, you fit the writer, strong moniker with the hair and all stuff.

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Speaker 4: Harry Warner kind of fits you.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I look like a Harry Warner. Yeah dude, he was.

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Speaker 5: He was like I just loved I mean, I loved him, but I never thought I would become him.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I have, just because like he was the kind of guy he.

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Speaker 5: Was insanely friendly every he was very he was always talking a lot with everybody, Like okay, so like if we traveled anywhere, he would become friends with everybody, right. He was the guy. He was very language obsessed. He was not he hadn't, he couldn't. He wasn't a big reader. He'd hadn't read that many books in his life. But he loved poetry and he always loved to I have his book of toasts that he used to have.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I remember we talked about this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a book of Look at this little book. It's just toasts and they're just like.

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Speaker 3: Things that he like. This toast, he marks.

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Speaker 2: The place where you are treated best and grumble most.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 5: Here's to friends both near and far. Here's to woman, man's guiding star. Here's two friends we've yet to meet. Here's to those here all here I greet. Here's to childhood, youth, old age. Here's to profit, barred and sage. Here's a health to everyone, peace on earth and heaven won. So like he had marked that like that, Yeah, here's another. Yeah, So he just would like memorize these toasts. So he would always be the guy who would like have something to say to like bring the gathering together or host to people. And I'm like, yeah, that's that's that's just so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've become my grandfather.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, I'm Alma, You're Harry. Who are you? Will I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I only knew one grandfather growing up, and I'm definitely not like him. He was a very nice guy, but he was a really intense banker. Oh so obviously not like me. Uh No, but I apparently I think I'm like the grandfather I'm actually named after. But unfortunately he passed well before my dad never even met so I think I was like, yeah, he My mom was in high school when she lost her dad, so.

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Speaker 4: I think i'd be like him.

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Speaker 3: He'd be by I don't even know what we would have called him, Grandpa, will or William, but I never really met him.

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Speaker 4: I'm just I've always been old. I love being old.

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Speaker 3: The older I get, the more I'm embracing it because unlike older generations, when I say my generation was better and the younger generation is wrong, I'm right, you know, right when we were there, But now that we're the older generation were correct, So that's easy. I did want to tell you one thing, Danielle, because I unfortunately scared the crap out of Susan.

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Speaker 4: You've got to be very careful with heating pads.

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Speaker 1: I know, I did see that that viral thing of that, like her back.

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Speaker 3: Turned black and all that stuff like that. So you got to be careful. You can't just be in your heating pad all day. Yeah, that's not a good thing. But yes, no, clearly with the car seat too, somebody finally realized that there should be a different setting there. So now I also have air We have one car. We also have air conditioncy so do we Yeah, So while Susan is in her hot seat, I get the air blowing on my back fat, which.

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Speaker 4: Is just awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's great, and it cools everything down.

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Speaker 2: It's like there's like actual holes.

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Speaker 1: There's vents.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a little vents and you get it's like it blows.

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Speaker 1: The leather is perforated and then there's there's ventilation. I wouldn't say it feels very cool. It's not like cool air, but it is air.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's but it's sticky something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 1: So when we have the Woodland Hills one hundred and seventeen, which is probably just right around the corner.

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Speaker 5: We're in a in a heat wave this week. Really, yes, it's like in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: Not me I'm gonna be I'm gonna be back east where it's gonna be real cold.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that'll be nice.

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Speaker 3: Even though it's been sixty this week, enough snow has melted. But my dad said, there's still an eight foot pile of snow in front of our house.

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Speaker 2: And now we're talking about the weather. That's how you know something to do, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know it used to be hot like this.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't all the time.

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Speaker 1: If it's global warming, why is it so cold?

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Speaker 4: It's true?

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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome to bod meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel.

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Speaker 4: I'm Harry Warner, and I forget who I am. I'm will for now. But now all I want is a word. There's original.

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Speaker 1: Oh, just gotta get you. So lint makes the truffles. They're so good and so At Christmas, I bought the peppermint cookie Yet, how dare you?

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Speaker 3: It's pepperpaste?

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Speaker 1: Whoa so good? It's God's toothpaste. My god, it's delicious. It had little cookie pieces in it and the chocolate so good. Okay. Unfortunately, when they said limited edition on those suckers, they meant it. It was like the day after Christmas out gone, replaced with Easter candies. Yeah, well before Easter, before we got to Easter, we got jes There was Valentine's Day, which none of it was none of the flavors were things I was into. It was like raspberry sorbet. No, thanks, keep your fruit. I'm here for the chocolate. So but now the Easter list we have.

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Speaker 2: Bold like like really like no peppermint, no fruit.

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Speaker 3: For toothpaste. Everyone's like, do you want a York peppermint patty. I'm like, no, I'd like a candy.

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Speaker 1: I get the York peppermint patty. Feels a little toothpaste.

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 4: Amazing. I will give you thin. So it's very very skelekule Mint, very very settlement.

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Speaker 1: And they have to is peppermint cookie lint. The peppermint cookie lnt was very subtlement, but the cookie pieces really made it because it gave it a texture. But the current ones I'm obsessed with are for Easter. Their carrot cake doesn't sound like it'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds they are.

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Speaker 3: So are you buying them in bulk because you know they're going to be gone the day after correct?

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Speaker 1: They say limited edition. I also did order five hundred. I found a five hundred pack of peppermint cookie one hundred.

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Speaker 2: So she's she's like the California distributor.

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Speaker 1: She's like.

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Speaker 3: Anybody limited edition.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's the nineties buying weed.

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Speaker 3: I have to go to Daniel's house going like, I'm gonna have to sit there for a half hour where she weaves it out. We have to talk about some stupid I can't just get my candy.

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Speaker 2: And go, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: That's always the way it's Will's do you remember your drug dealer character that you used to do?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was so funny.

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Speaker 2: What you What do you need?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: What do you need?

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Speaker 1: I got you? I got you What do you need?

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Speaker 2: You used to do this for like it used to What do you need?

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Speaker 1: What do you need?

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Speaker 2: I got what you need? Oh my, that's Danielle's.

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Speaker 3: What do you need?

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Speaker 2: I got some pepper You want the carry cake? I got the carry cake.

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Speaker 1: I do the same thing with those white chocolate covered Oreos because they are also only limited editions. So I buy twenty packages of those when they come out in October. It lasts me through the year. And I've got the five hundred pack of peppermint cookie. It'll last me throughout the How can how can.

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Speaker 3: They still be a year late? I guess because they're so processed, how can they still be.

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Speaker 2: Actual food in there?

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Speaker 1: It's basically also think I look at expiration dates. Those that's a scam.

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Speaker 2: Those just microplastics with on top.

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Speaker 3: How have we not talked about the McDonald's CEO not being able to choke down his own product because he doesn't even say.

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Speaker 1: Hamburger, especially because that archburger was good. I don't know why he was having such a hard time with it. It was delicious.

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Speaker 2: Because McDonald's is horrible, I don't eat it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I don't eat it anymore. I switched to Burger King.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I enjoy your life.

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Speaker 2: Horrible anything fast food processed like the amount of like.

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Speaker 4: But it's better than burger the McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: The woman now who has had the McDonald's hamburger and the fries in her closet for twenty five years uncovered and they look exactly the same, scared the hell out of me.

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Speaker 1: I think that's there's no way that's true. It is true. They've done, they've they've done.

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Speaker 5: It's multiple people have done the version of this, but it's not necessarily what you think like, it's not that's not really the problem that you think it is, like if you're in a climate controlled food situation.

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Speaker 3: No, they're saying because they've done experiments too where they take McDonald's food and they lay it outside and bugs avoid it. Literally, the bugs, the ants and everything go around a.

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Speaker 2: Way from it.

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Speaker 3: I literally seen videos where the ants are like, I'm not eating that crazy?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I know I'm gonna die, but.

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Speaker 1: I would rather say I know how to spot poison when I see it as they walk right into an ant trap exactly.

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Speaker 3: Or is just orkin is just laying out McDonald's hamburger's outside.

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Speaker 4: That's their new thing.

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Speaker 5: So you want to give rid of your turn bites, coat, your coat, your house in French fry oil.

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Speaker 2: That's all dicks now.

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Speaker 4: But seriously, it was good. The archburger was good.

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Speaker 1: It was actually really good. Yeah, their new arch sauce is it's.

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Speaker 2: Our chances of sponsors. Guys just just throwing it away.

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Speaker 4: I love the McDonald's product. Watch us I take a bite of it.

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Speaker 1: Amazing that the bite was just like, look at that giant bite. It's like, why the way you could have done? You get a cut anyway? Why not actually then have a giant BikeE taken out of it.

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Speaker 5: There are things called spit buckets for actors exactly this purpose.

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Speaker 1: You take a bite my favorite product.

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 4: Whoever came up with that idea?

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Speaker 3: How somebody on the other side of the camera was it like, you know, whatever his name is, Bob, We're gonna need you to actually take a bite of the product because you can't say burger legally.

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Speaker 1: So all right, I'm going to go finish the rest of this for my lunch.

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Speaker 3: I'm having this off camera for lunch.

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Speaker 1: You I don't believe you. Do you know how many people that video had to pass through?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And then everyone was like, this is great, You've done it.

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Speaker 4: You signed off, congratulations. You know it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: We have a CEO with personality.

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Speaker 3: Oh go hire somebody that's like Fabio is your CEO? Somebody someone who just wants to take a bite of you. And I would have powered that thing down. And then we were to heard the guy off camera go like we weren't rolling yet, be like, that's right, one I told you.

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Speaker 1: Jensen and I on the day it came out, I was like, well, I gotta try it. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. It's a new product. We shared it, and I was like, this is good. So you shared it? Yeah, you shared a burger.

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Speaker 4: At McDonald You shared it?

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Speaker 1: Is that what I shared it?

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Speaker 4: My headphones aren't working?

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Speaker 3: You shared it?

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Speaker 1: Remember I told you I'm on like this new health kick where I only eat half a poisonous burger. And so, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are you starting to all the cottage cheese yet? I'm curious weird cheese curds everywhere you look.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the place now I still like the cottage cheese. I am at a place now where I'm just annoyed when I'm hungry, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like, how are we going to know the difference?

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Speaker 1: Just make it stop, Make it stop, make the hunker stop. I don't want to eat it. I don't want to eat any more chicken. How do I push? Please? I don't even I don't want to chew it. I want to just push. Lunch is cottage and eggs and egg whites and avocados.

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Speaker 4: So you're all protein, You're all about the protein.

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Speaker 1: I'm all about protein and vegetables, very few carbs.

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Speaker 3: If you're getting what at least one hundred grams of protein to day.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't. I can't choke it down. I'm getting at least sixty. So my cottage cheese has like twenty three grams of protein in it. I'll make a bunch of egg whites and one egg yolk in the morning and I'll have like, you know, twelve grams of proteins.

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Speaker 4: Less than you think. Eggs says less than you think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like between my breakfast of eggs, egg whites and cottage cheese and then half an avocado, I have, you know, thirty five grams of protein. And then at lunch, I'll eat two chicken skewers and like a Greek yogurt and I have another thirty some odd grams there. And then honestly, if I get hungry at dinner, I just try to, like I don't know, take a unisalmon, go to sleep and help the process.

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Speaker 3: I can make a suggestion that would help if so, at like four o'clock, have a protein shake, I know, two scoops of protein some fruit in there.

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Speaker 4: Have a protein shake.

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Speaker 3: It jacks up your protein okay, And it's not that hard to choke down.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And I can do something like a smoothie. I can do something where I have to drink something, but if I have to chew anything else.

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Speaker 4: Go get some dates.

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Speaker 3: Go get some fresh dates, and rip one open and throw it in your smoothie. It sweetens everything up. You get that with your protein, and you're jacking up your protein.

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Speaker 1: Coming all right? Thanks? Will I like this?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: We did like two pre show chatter. God two pre show chatter, separated by our intros. This is crazy. Welcome to Podmeads World. Today we are recapping season seven, episode twelve, Family Trees. It originally aired December seventeenth, nineteen ninety nine. The synopsis Sean is rattled by a letter from his long lost mom, while Eric is tasked with throwing a surprise party for his dad. It was directed by Fred Savage, his first of two Boy Meets World episodes that he would direct. The former child star was not only Ben's older brother and the star of the hit show The Wonder Years. He appeared on the show as a creepy college professor hitting on tapanga. Our show was the first to offer him a directing gig, something he turned into a career for twenty years. He would leave the industry in twenty twenty one amongst allegations and controversies, and is now focusing on a career involving his love of watches. It was written by mister Matthew Nelson. Mayhew rested, ease before I jump into our guest stars, do we want to share our overall thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I this was This is so weird, guys. This is the hardest episode for me to watch.

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Speaker 1: Really, I do why.

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Speaker 2: I can see why I hated this so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that it has.

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Speaker 5: Nothing to do with whether it's a good or bad episode for whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: And I was watching this like Indy went to bed.

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Speaker 5: I put it on because I was like, oh, it's, you know, time for me to watch the show. And Alex like was walking in and out like after like helping Indy go to bed and then coming in, And I was so embarrassed that she would be watching this episode. It's just such a weird feeling. I don't know, Like I was like and I'm like, am I really bad? And I'm like, I don't know if I'm really that bad, Like it's not great, but it's not even about that. For some reason, I had blocked this entire episode up from my head. Me too did not remember it. I've gotten did we have the discussion where I remembered being at Chet's grave with him? And I feel like somebody was like, no, that never happened, and I was like, no, I think I was at the grave. So I thought I had completely made up a scene and then here it was. But yeah, for whatever reason, I have blocked this entire episode. We all forgot that Sean got drunk a second time. I remember we were like at a live show and somebody was like, no, Sean has two alcohol episodes and we were like what. So for whatever reason, I have blocked this entire episode from my brain, and I hated watching it.

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Speaker 2: It made me feel so bad. It sucks and I don't know what that's all about. But like, this is the most insecure.

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Speaker 5: I've ever felt watching, which is weird. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It is not performance related, because because your performance is great, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's fine.

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Speaker 1: It is the fact that they, you know, have brought you back to a multiple seasons ago storyline. It feels insulting.

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Speaker 3: It's like, especially in the midst of whatever season seven is now, and it's like they took season four or five Sean, they took Angsty Sean. At first, I was like, Engsty Shawan's back.

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Speaker 2: I literally show up in the leather jacket again.

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Speaker 5: And the second I walked in, I was like, oh god, oh no, your Shawn episode and Sean's got his leather jacket back. And I was terrified immediately, and I look like a child. I look, I'm infantalized by that jacket. Yeah, because it's like, oh, suddenly I look like I'm fifty again when I'm clear. And then they're talking about adopting me when I'm I'm nineteen, I'm eight, I'm twenty. I know how old am I? What are you talking about? You don't adopt an, oh, someone over eighteen? And I was like, I've literally been infantalized by this story, Like ooh, this one hurt.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Yeah, I I don't. I'm coming to the point now where I just don't know. Yeah, I just don't know the twenty two minutes that happens in front of me anymore.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't and all the characters are weird.

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Speaker 5: I was funny. I guess I thought you were hysterical. I thought Ben and Danielle were great. I actually like liked all those things.

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Speaker 2: It was just every time I was on camera, I just wanted to hide my face.

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Speaker 4: It was a strange. It was a strange episode.

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Speaker 3: And then there's things I'm sure we're gonna get into where it was just a normal episode except for one scene where then it was a Christmas episode. Was that we were in Christmas anywhere, and then it was Christmas literally for one scene, and then it wasn't Christmas again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Wow, it was actually Alan's birthday, so give guests for that.

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Speaker 3: There's no tree in the house, nobody mentions Christmas. And then you're on a street being followed by Santa with Christmas lights all over the place. And then you come back and nobody mentions Christmas. What the hell. It's like they've given up. It's very very straight. Oh, I wanted to say this. I didn't know if this was good preshow chatter. I don't think it is, because it's just very quick, but I was. I met with a bunch of the writers this weekend. We went and saw David Kendall, and I got a very interesting story we were talking about the episode we all liked about.

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Speaker 4: Planning for the wedding.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, and Brownfield told me that originally the original concept was you're talking you know, it seems like you're talking to somebody, and then originally you pan out and you were going to be talking to some big celebrity that they were.

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Speaker 4: Going to get oh and no one agreed to do it.

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Speaker 3: And so it came right before we were going to shoot and they changed it to where fine, you're just talking to the family. But they said for weeks apparently they tried to get some name person to sit there, like a wedding planner or something you were going to be talking to who was like this big dark star, and nobody they couldn't get anybody.

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Speaker 2: I wonder who they would have gone after, Like I think.

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Speaker 4: They went after a bunch of people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, someone from the moment, someone from the Partridge family members. But that was an interesting story I heard. But this I I watched these season seven episodes now and I just kind of I go, oh, okay, like I don't I don't know what's happening. And yeah, Sean was from season four. We were we were Christmas for one scene. Uh, It's just was very it was odd all the way around. I didn't dislike it. And Writer, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. It seemed out of place.

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Speaker 1: You were not bad.

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Speaker 3: You were just season five Sean or whatever it was. You weren't bad at it with the performance. Wasn't like the writer's terrible. It was just, oh, now it looks even more out of place because we're all completely different characters.

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Speaker 4: And you're going back to an older version of see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I That's what I felt coming through was through your performance. I could feel you being dejected.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And so it's it's like and it didn't feel like Sean being dejected. It felt like a person. Yes, it felt like writer is doing his best. But also, yeah, where.

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Speaker 2: I felt that the most is actually in the positive moments. In the early parts of the episode.

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Speaker 5: I could hear myself pushing, hey, Cory, but I was like pushing as an actor to be like, I have to say these funny, jokey lines, and I could tell I hated all of it.

00:22:27
Speaker 4: I was like, right, at least I wasn't pushing to comedy.

00:22:31
Speaker 1: No, definitely not.

00:22:33
Speaker 3: It's funny.

00:22:34
Speaker 1: Also Ben doing the voice.

00:22:38
Speaker 2: Oh, he broke multiple times in this episode.

00:22:40
Speaker 1: He was cracking himself up, rocking himself up.

00:22:42
Speaker 2: Oh, and that's so funny. So his brother was directing.

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Speaker 5: I didn't put bet together, but he felt comfortable in a way and like was doing things that he probably would do during rehearsal and I wouldn't make it to the show.

00:22:55
Speaker 2: Made it into the show this week.

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Speaker 5: This was Yeah, this was the most Ben I've ever felt watching it, where it's like, this is his sense of humor coming through.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it makes sense too, in the sense that when your famous brother who's now directing your show you want you're gonna watch me do my thing, You're going to feel a little bit more confident and comfortable and maybe put on more of a show than you would normally you're.

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Speaker 4: On set, this is my show.

00:23:28
Speaker 3: It's also Ben is a completely different character and actor when he doesn't have to carry the load for the episode.

00:23:33
Speaker 1: Yes, total, So it's like it was your.

00:23:35
Speaker 3: Episode rider and he gets to just kind of it. I'm going to relax and just be funny and just go from there.

00:23:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. When he says to Amy.

00:23:43
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I don't think anyone else, Oh my god. And the audience almost turns on him because.

00:23:52
Speaker 1: Even making it that comical with a voice is like you're saying that to your mother in any circumstances, no matter how funny you try to make it, there's a little bit of like a should we be celebrating this kid?

00:24:09
Speaker 2: That's Ben?

00:24:11
Speaker 3: You have a second bagel?

00:24:12
Speaker 1: Huh?

00:24:13
Speaker 4: Interesting?

00:24:14
Speaker 3: I don't recall ever really asking.

00:24:17
Speaker 2: Do you remember his impression of Martin Short?

00:24:20
Speaker 3: Okay, it was like this guy what he would do?

00:24:23
Speaker 2: He would do a lot of Martin Short. Did he he worked with Martin Short?

00:24:26
Speaker 5: I think he was in Ben was in a movie with Martin Yeah, And I think he actually did his.

00:24:32
Speaker 2: Impression of Martin Short March.

00:24:33
Speaker 5: But he would do Martin multiple Jimmy glick, but that he would also do from the Big Picture where he's the agent, Martin Shorts is the agent, and he's like, I look, he's fine with me.

00:24:45
Speaker 2: I will give you three things. A mother, I will be a.

00:24:48
Speaker 5: Mother, a father, And if anyone tries to screw with you, I will grab them by the balls and squeeze, and we just squeeze until they're dead.

00:24:59
Speaker 2: Oh my. And then he would also yeah, someone.

00:25:03
Speaker 5: There was another Martin short bit where they'd be like, are you a manly man? He was like if the main back in the Roman days when men were carrying stones and they would build, he like goes on this whole model, like I'm sorry, what was the question?

00:25:17
Speaker 2: Do you this that we have to look these up? I have to find these Mary?

00:25:23
Speaker 1: Oh?

00:25:24
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:25:24
Speaker 3: Having fun, so much fun?

00:25:27
Speaker 1: Man? Okay. Guest starring Buckle up because Blake Clark is back as chet Hunter, the Sandler Verse regular. Started in stand up but quickly became a character favorite with a signature voice. This is his second to last Boy Meets World episode, and it is always great to see him. Yeah, and another biggie. Jeff Manew as Santa Yep, our beloved writer and producer on the show since day one, got in the red suit and we might have to ask him about this and report back. Jumping into our recap, we are in the Matthews living room. Sitting on the couch. Tapanga is frustrated that someone takes their birthday way too seriously. Corey agrees by complaining about the birthday freak. We've never mentioned this before, never happens his birthday seriously.

00:26:28
Speaker 4: Apparently right near Christmas.

00:26:31
Speaker 1: No, yeah, this family, we have definitely talked about. This family does not. It's not good about birthdays. They just ump, oh, happy birthday. Okay, great, that's it.

00:26:40
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, but that's the first thing that came to my head was we all know any anybody who has a birthday right near a major holiday gets screwed a bit. So how is the story not it's our Christmas episode? And this year we're concentrating on Alan's birthday because he always gets screwed, but he always sniffs it out. It's such an eat throw a tree up behind him, It's such an easy fix. It's like, what is going on?

00:27:00
Speaker 1: Yes, and for him to even make a big deal about it. Nope, we're not doing it this year. Last year, nobody even remembered my birthday. And now yeah, yeah, nopes, really really easy. Morgan, who, in case you forgot, is Corey's little sister, O chimes in, I can't take this pressure every year. I'm going to be in therapy for this r and I Amy calms her nerves by revealing they'll get a group right on. Cue Eric barrels down the stairs, not.

00:27:26
Speaker 3: One of many, many, many huge shirts I am now officially in the It's I don't know what. Is it a shirt, is it a skirt, that's a shirt, skirt, whatever, any dress, That's what I'm wearing.

00:27:38
Speaker 1: It this Okay, it's bad for the record for anyone who thinks that when you are feeling or looking a little bigger, wearing bigger clothes does not make you look smaller. It makes you look bigger.

00:27:51
Speaker 4: Sue said the same thing.

00:27:52
Speaker 3: She's like, they just got a tent maker on set who just made me something and threw it out.

00:27:57
Speaker 4: Yeah. Sue said the same things like, why.

00:27:59
Speaker 3: Are you in huge close? Yes? If you feel big?

00:28:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna happen this year. You have chosen Eric Matthews as the Alan Matthews birthday party planner. Bravo to you. Uh does this ring true for Alan in any way?

00:28:16
Speaker 2: No?

00:28:17
Speaker 4: No, no, he is.

00:28:18
Speaker 5: A selfless provider. Like there's nothing about Alan that has been.

00:28:23
Speaker 2: Established that makes this fit.

00:28:25
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's nothing about him that seems materialistic, Like, yeah, I it doesn't make any sense.

00:28:31
Speaker 3: This is also when I realized, and I think we've all now established this zero memory of this and I mean literally zero, zero memory of this episode normally I remember something.

00:28:41
Speaker 1: Do you guys even remember Fred directing?

00:28:44
Speaker 4: Because I don't don't.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: I don't remember the I don't remember the week of being like all fronts here two.

00:28:49
Speaker 5: Apparently two weeks I remember, No, I remember, yeah, I remember it. I remember seeing him with the the pedestal or whatever, the rolling the direc and I remember like thinking it was cool. It's all I remember, thinking like, that's cool, Like I would probably want to do that one day, right, it seemed like a natural progression, like, oh, as an actor, when I get older, I could probably maybe direct one day.

00:29:16
Speaker 2: Like that was the first time that that really occurred to me.

00:29:19
Speaker 4: This is a yeah, this is one of those episodes.

00:29:21
Speaker 3: And there's only a handful of the entire seven series seven seasons where I literally have no memory.

00:29:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, no memory of this at all.

00:29:27
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Eric announces his strategy. Here's the key as I see it. Dad was a Navy man, which means he'll use any means, even torture, to find out about this party. Corey reminds him Alan was a cook in the coast Guard.

00:29:40
Speaker 3: He was in the navy.

00:29:42
Speaker 1: Navy, Yeah, grabbing Corey and shaking him. Daddy was a Navy seal. Don't you ever? Corey screams for help and no one moves an inch. Luckily, Alan walks in through the door. Hi. Everyone stops what they're doing. Eric can't help himself, tell him nothing with that. He darts up the stairs, and Alan pretends to block his way up before playfully returning to the rest of his family.

00:30:05
Speaker 2: Which is totally rusty, just messing. I can tell that's rusty, improvising the lift block.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: And a screon around three more days.

00:30:13
Speaker 1: I'm going to be so happy in three more days. Anybody know why? Morgan she's at Christmas? I'm not playing and walks out. Alan taunts her, what a baby. Then he sings to Amy forty six, the Big four six, till Alan matters is younger than Will by like four years.

00:30:40
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, Alan and I even have been in high school together.

00:30:44
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what do you get a forty six year old? Huh? Amy knows where this is going. Alan, leave us the hell alone. She picks up her belongings and heads to the kitchen. Then Sean and Angelo walk in with big smiles. Angela encourages Sean to tell them, but he assures her there's nothing to tell, but everyone's interest is piqued. Corey wonders tell us what. Sean hesitantly reveals, I got a letter from my mom Verna in case you forgot. He pulls a letter out of his pocket and Corey asks have you opened it? Sean says no, and Corey aggressively insists he tear it up. Seawan is surprised he hasn't heard from his mom in three years, but Corey's insistent he knows what's best, tear it up. Alan senses the tension and give Sean some finger guns. Hey, Sean. Sean falls right in line with the other storyline. Hey, mister Matthews, happy birthday in three days, right forty six? Alan brings him in for a bear hug. This is what I'm talking about people. This is a good boy. But Corey's still stuck on the letter. Look, everything's going great for you. You've got great friends, You've got a beautiful, honest, sweet, loving woman that loves you. Angela blushes, well, thanks, Corey. He tells her to shut up and returns to his pitch. You've made the.

00:31:58
Speaker 5: Pease weird story, like what so a letter from your mom who clearly abandoned you when your dad died, like you've gone through so much, like it's it's it's like a it's a yeah, it's like a plot line from season four mailed to season seven Sean to just pull in this emotional regression for the sake of stirring up something like there's no other point, like it doesn't actually affect Sean's life and anyway, it's just, yeah, here's an emotional bomb so that we can bring Mopi Sean back, so he can be MOPy and screw everybody up, when actually it has nothing to do with anything, like there's no actual story effect.

00:32:44
Speaker 1: It also bothers me even for the Verna character, because she's always mean. She's already a villain for sure, But in what world do you think there's any justification to drop a bomb like this in someone's life via letter. By the way, not even.

00:33:06
Speaker 5: She, but remember the old storyline, she wrote to me every day that she was gone.

00:33:10
Speaker 2: Remember that's the old storyline.

00:33:11
Speaker 5: So the idea that she isn't my real mother and writes me a letter to inform me of that after three years of no contact goes completely against the whole storyline, which is that even when she was searching for herself.

00:33:24
Speaker 2: And had to leave my dad, how did you? She loved me and she.

00:33:28
Speaker 5: Would write me letters every day with that or every week or whatever that storyline was. That was like season six beginning right like it, So I.

00:33:36
Speaker 4: Don't think it was even I think it was earlier than that.

00:33:39
Speaker 2: When Jack came in.

00:33:39
Speaker 1: It was five yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's it's so it's so weird.

00:33:44
Speaker 3: We go the whole episode and then it's like, we want to adopt you adult John, and then they don't. That's the story. I mean, it's like, that's the story. But again you've kind of finished and you're like, huh, okay.

00:33:56
Speaker 2: Sean went through a thing this week, Sean got emotional.

00:33:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and it's don't never leave me Angela. She's like, I won't and does like five episodes.

00:34:04
Speaker 1: I think that makes me planting a seed.

00:34:08
Speaker 3: Maybe, but it's like, I, yeah, I didn't, I didn't get this, and I'm so excited to know if this is actually our Christmas episode this year.

00:34:17
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's December seventeenth, December seventeen, So.

00:34:21
Speaker 3: It makes it so much more that that's like your lint chocolate, just lah Chef's kiss to throw somebody in the Santa suit for one scene and go as is our Christmas episode.

00:34:29
Speaker 1: Oh I love it.

00:34:31
Speaker 5: I do like the Alan Sean Yeah storyline coming full circle because it's been low key a very important part of the show.

00:34:39
Speaker 2: And I love the idea that those two characters have moments and their moment together. Totally love that. I just yeah.

00:34:46
Speaker 1: This also is it actually doesn't bother me that you're over eighteen and they're talking about adopting you, because having someone to call your mom or your dad is a lot more than just about who's going to pay your bills or live under your roof or even raise you. It is a matter of like, symbolically, you have a dad. If you go into the hospital because something's wrong and they say it's only family, it's not just Jack who's allowed in there, I'm your dad.

00:35:15
Speaker 3: But this is the problem I had with this entire thing. He always had a dad, he never had a mom. So how is this not a Betsy storyline?

00:35:27
Speaker 1: We know the answer?

00:35:28
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I mean. I mean the whole point he had a dad, He stayed with his dad, and his dad stayed with him that's what this storylines about. He never had a mom there, So how is this not Betsy wanting to be his mom as opposed to just now a second dad.

00:35:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: No, that's so patriarchal.

00:35:45
Speaker 3: I didn't get so. I was like, but he the whole episode is about your great dad, even though you weren't here all the time.

00:35:49
Speaker 4: You had a dad, And.

00:35:54
Speaker 3: At one time in one scene goes like this, I'm a pretty good mom, and it's like, oh, oh, that's right, Betsy's here.

00:36:03
Speaker 1: You're right. Why couldn't she be the one obsessed with her birthday, doesn't get to make the decision.

00:36:08
Speaker 5: Yes, he makes a decision, and she goes, oh wait, okay, yes we're going to adopt you.

00:36:12
Speaker 2: I'll go along with husband, man of the house.

00:36:15
Speaker 4: You're right, make it.

00:36:16
Speaker 3: Betsy loves her, but it's a birthday party for mom. Can we never do it right?

00:36:20
Speaker 4: Because she always.

00:36:21
Speaker 3: Takes care of us, now we have to take care of her. And now she wants to adopt Sean because Sean never had a mom, which is what the story was about. Yeah wow, so yeah, okay.

00:36:32
Speaker 1: But things are better when it's between men.

00:36:36
Speaker 4: Danielle Danielle Ryder and I will tell you when to speak.

00:36:38
Speaker 1: Okay, No mean when I should start the recap again. Go ahead, okay, thank you. Amy jumps in, maybe Sean needs to take a look at that letter for reasons you can't see right now. Corey sarcastically responds with a lisp. Gee, mom, I'm looking around the room here to see if anyone asks your The inmates laugh uncomfortably and then ooh, as he continues, I don't see anyone. Is anyone? No, Just as it looks like everyone is about to break, Amy gives him a few slaps on the face, and Corey returns to Sean. You want an opinion, you ask to Penga. He stomps over to his wife. Go ahead, to Panga, tell him. She winces, knowing how this is gonna go down. I think you need to let Sean do whatever he wants. A smiling Corey lets out a sadistic chuckle and asks everyone to excuse them for a moment. He points a finger at to Panga. Don't you ever snap at me like that in public again? In response, she whacks him with her notepad. Meanwhile, Sean has indeed started reading the letter. It says, my mom is somewhere in Honduras. Corey gasps, oh, no, he opened it. Sean continues, and she's never coming back. That's nothing new. I want to know how she wrote.

00:37:51
Speaker 4: That I'm never coming back.

00:37:55
Speaker 1: She here, the dad died, and now I have the right to know something. Corey begs him to put the letter back in the envelope. Amy tries to be optimistic. It could be good news, but Corey knows better. He snatches the letter, but we see Sean's face has dropped completely. Alan asks what's wrong. A stun Sean reveals she's not my real mother. The room is stunned. We get dramatic music and a dramatic commercial break when this's moydes Well Rander. Do you remember when you learned that this was going to be a storyline that Verna wasn't your just probably when you read the script?

00:38:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had no memory. All I remember is working like being in a cemetery and talking to ghost chat. I remembered that that was something that happened on our show, and that's all I remembered about this episode, and I just am so checked out.

00:38:44
Speaker 3: He did just three episodes as a ghost. How many episodes did he do alive? Did he do more episodes as a ghost than he did?

00:38:53
Speaker 5: If you add Goal meets World because it came back from Gerol Meets World too. I said it's about the same, because it's probably like five and five.

00:39:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in the guy's apartment. There are papers strewn across the kitchen, Homeland style, trying to connect the dots of Sean's potential mother. Sean huffs, we got to find my mom, Jack, Jack sarcastically asks, I'm the only family you have left. Let's go on to search for your brother. Oh wait a minute, we don't have to he's here.

00:39:19
Speaker 2: Such a good point, yep, it's such a good point.

00:39:23
Speaker 3: The late nineties laptop, it's so big.

00:39:28
Speaker 1: My most favorite thing is later when Jack, when Matt says I've entered in all the information. All you have to do, he hits one random button a few times and then says, all you have to do is presenter. It's just great. Sean reminds him you're my half brother. Jack suggests, how about the other half beats the crap out of you. Then Eric walks down the stairs ready to make an important announcement. He pulls out a long pointer and reveals a poster board for his presentation. There's a head shot Morgan plus a skull, which equals a green picture of Morgan. Do you know what I'm just now realizing I remember this. I remember the ball I remember the board.

00:40:12
Speaker 2: I thought it was so funny.

00:40:14
Speaker 1: So funny. I think we had a hard time keeping it together.

00:40:18
Speaker 2: It's great. Are you kidding me? This is just great? This is great. This is probably the best Eric storyline in a couple episodes.

00:40:26
Speaker 1: I agree, so fun I agree, really really smart and funny. Below that is a picture of an emergency room door, which points to celebratory balloons. Eric explains, we give Morgan, who will be our decoy, some kind of poison that will make her ill. Dad will have to take her to the hospital, and when he's in the emergency room, that's when the party begins to Penga clarifies, are you willing to poison your sister to surprise your father? Eric doesn't answer, but does admit if Morgan goes south, actually she will croaks. He flips over to a new poster board, which has placed a skull over morgan space and added two ghastly feet with a toe tad that reads Morgan. Eric continues, it's gonna put a damper.

00:41:11
Speaker 2: On the Oh my god, I completely.

00:41:16
Speaker 1: Forgot about the poison the baby.

00:41:19
Speaker 4: Smart, yeah, way less poison, way less.

00:41:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much was poisoned. The baby can't talk, you know, Smart. It's gonna put a damper on the entire party, which is why we get Now we get another new board, Horsey Rides. It's basically clip art of cowboy Eric holding balloons and riding a pony. Eric's face has been taped on the character. Notice me, I'm Eric on the horsey. Let's call him Pete. The two of us together having fun, joy, merriment. Corey raises his hand. I want to be over there now. He jumps off the couch and makes his way to Sean and Angela and Jack to avoid any more of Eric's plan to peg A shouts take me with you and follow. Eric is unfazed. All right, if any of you need me, I'm gonna be at the bois in store. And with that, he takes his presentation and leaves funny bit. Meanwhile, in the kitchen, everyone is gathered around Jack's laptop. Sean notices an interesting family on their dad's side. His great grandfather and great uncle were born in Scotland. Cory and Tapanga not an excitement ahttash. We are clearly breaking so probably had a hard time keeping it together. Then, Sean continues, and what they were known for was well, one day they slaughtered their entire village. Cory and Tapanga exclaimed together with only a little less excitement, ah slaughterers. Sean says, I come from thieves and pillargers. I come from bad people. Angela tries to lighten the mood. We haven't looked up your mom's side, Sean reminds her he's had three mothers. Join the club. Friend Jack nuts, yes, Verna, Mingwa and Elaine. Sean admits, I think we can rule Minghwa out. Angela points out, which leaves Elaine. Jack agrees. Elaine McGuinty ah, yes, last spotted in Boston, Sean smiles. She's probably sitting in a coffeehouse reading poetry right now. You think Elaine's where I got my poetry thing from Corl. I don't even understand why does what do you mean? He's had three mothers like.

00:43:29
Speaker 4: The what you have been married times?

00:43:31
Speaker 1: But can't you look at the dates he was married to this woman years before Sean was born.

00:43:36
Speaker 3: It's not her, right, you think.

00:43:39
Speaker 1: And by the way, are we really acting like it's got to be somebody he's married too, because it doesn't even make any sense. He would only have been married to possibly two people if it's around the time of you being born, like you, so if the idea is but I don't know, I.

00:44:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's like it's one of the first storylines where it's always like I don't know who my dad is. This is the one I don't know who my mom is, which is kind of a weird storyline.

00:44:12
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so, Yeah, someone just stated you for a long time and there's only a short period of time where you could have been made.

00:44:19
Speaker 3: And then gave you to check.

00:44:21
Speaker 1: So and the hard part too, is like back then there's no social media to find all his girlfriends. Oh I found this, Look, this was a girlfriend he was here.

00:44:30
Speaker 5: There's also no genetic testing exactly, parentage or like maybe it was just burgeoning like the idea that you could actually do it.

00:44:37
Speaker 2: But it's also weird to think I learned the truth from a.

00:44:42
Speaker 3: Ghost of course, So yes, like we do.

00:44:46
Speaker 5: Find out that Sean's mom was a stripper from a ghost, so that information is magically downloaded through the spirit world.

00:44:57
Speaker 3: I was just thinking the whole time, how many members of Nobody's Angel are actually your sisters.

00:45:04
Speaker 4: It's like, because you know, you're related to at least fifty percent of that.

00:45:06
Speaker 1: Girl group, right, Oh my gosh. So yeah, okay, uh, Corey answers no, and Sean doesn't understand. Corey continues, I just don't want you to expect anything on cue. Jack announces, Okay, I've entered all the information. He then taps on a few keys, because that's how computers work, and continues, So.

00:45:26
Speaker 5: I mean, I love how technology works in general. The idea and this is this is totally of the time, right that you did stuff on a computer with the Internet, but it wasn't real until you got it through the mail, right, you know what I mean, Like you have to like that's a corner limp with technology back then. Is like because even I remember, like you applied to college, you could maybe do part of it online, but it had to actually be through the mail that you got your answer, you know what I mean.

00:45:53
Speaker 1: Internet gave you the ability to print your paperwork that then you had to mail.

00:45:58
Speaker 2: Even in college. They would not accept work via email.

00:46:01
Speaker 5: Like I had to turn in papers, actually physically turn them in because.

00:46:04
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, this computer stuff is on.

00:46:06
Speaker 5: So it's like a weird little time where there is internet, we can't like you couldn't even buy stuff online yet really like Amazon wasn't around yet or the.

00:46:15
Speaker 1: Bays getting closed though, because I've been a member of the base since like two thousand and one.

00:46:19
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, kiddy, my school, My school didn't allow typed papers.

00:46:23
Speaker 4: We had to handwrite our papers. Yeah, you weren't even allowed to do it.

00:46:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if spell.

00:46:27
Speaker 5: Check was cheap, yes, so, but think about you wouldn't give your credit card online?

00:46:31
Speaker 2: Like that was a scary It was crazy. I was like, oh no, once your information got out there and now it's.

00:46:36
Speaker 4: Now you just scan ten times a day.

00:46:38
Speaker 3: Here you go, a strange person, I bought a car.

00:46:40
Speaker 4: Yeah it's ridiculous.

00:46:42
Speaker 1: But uh so all you have to do is hit search and they'll send you the results in a few days in the mail, six eight weeks or you want to do this right? Sean has no doubts. He's sure, but Jack isn't as confident. Is that your final answer? Timely reference.

00:46:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's why I said the same thing.

00:46:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, does he does he get the results?

00:47:04
Speaker 4: He gets the results?

00:47:04
Speaker 1: Right?

00:47:05
Speaker 2: No, the results I get here is just that Ellen McGuinty is.

00:47:09
Speaker 3: You get the results. But I'm trying to figure out the timeline. So they you sent it out and got the results back before Rusty's birthday, which is two.

00:47:18
Speaker 1: Days awa three days? It's three days.

00:47:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so it's been so it's basically like, yeah, that's that's a good point.

00:47:26
Speaker 4: Okay.

00:47:26
Speaker 3: The mail is so fast, super fast in ninety nine in the Philadelphia region.

00:47:31
Speaker 1: Basically the way the internet works is someone sitting there waiting to get it and then the minute the order comes in, they hit print.

00:47:37
Speaker 3: And then put it. It's like those the little street kids that used to sell the newspapers like extra EXTRAE.

00:47:42
Speaker 4: They're now waiting to deliver stuff.

00:47:44
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm deliver this right now.

00:47:47
Speaker 2: And what are they delivering? A report that Ellen McGuinty does not want to be found.

00:47:50
Speaker 3: Correct, which apparently was not on the site.

00:47:54
Speaker 2: Like that's all we get.

00:47:55
Speaker 1: You do say later that she's not your mom. You say, it's why don't I know that?

00:48:00
Speaker 2: Is it a genetic that? How do I we know that it's not her.

00:48:05
Speaker 4: I don't think that matters. The ghost tells.

00:48:07
Speaker 5: You, the male delivers truth, and then the ghost delivers the other.

00:48:12
Speaker 1: Truth, confirmation of the truth. Maybe Ellen mc guinty is the stripper.

00:48:17
Speaker 5: Why how do we like Because because Ellen mc ginty was a wife of his right, whereas the stripper was just somebody he slept with.

00:48:26
Speaker 1: And he doesn't say.

00:48:28
Speaker 3: That he doesn't know. Yeah, oh hummm, I don't know.

00:48:34
Speaker 1: Sean nods yeah, and then presses the search button without hesitation. The room does not seem excited. Now we're in the student union. Eric is prepping Rachel as I forgot she was on the show. Eric is prepping Rachel as the rest of the group watches on. When the firecrackers go off, Rachel runs inside the house and yells. Rachel robotically recites her lines. The Japanese are attacking. The Japanese are attacking Eric her lackluster performance, It admits, oh wow, okay, see, I don't believe you. She counters, singing, I don't believe you. Eric insists this will work. Daddy will run outside because he's a Navy seal. Corey shouts not and Eric snaps back shut and stomps over to his brother. You gotta get your cakes. That's the only job is to get the cakes. You got that, squirt. I love this moment, Corey grins. I like when you call me squirt, which I think I also remember that moment.

00:49:30
Speaker 2: Well, it's also it's a callback to a Corey Shawan moment.

00:49:35
Speaker 1: Is it's squirt? So good? They give each other an enthusiastic high five. As Shan walks in carrying a manilla envelope, he announces, I hold in my hand the research result of one Elaine McGinty hunter. I have a mother. She's in here. Angela encourages him to open it, and now everyone else reason excitement, except for Christy.

00:50:02
Speaker 2: Result.

00:50:03
Speaker 4: Okay, twenty four hours. You got it.

00:50:04
Speaker 1: Apparently, except for Corey, who sarcastically adds, yeah, open it, because things are going great and everybody's happy. We're all getting along and who wants that. Sean doesn't get him, but Cory just gives a fist pump and half command Yeah, open it. Sean quickly pulls out the results and starts reading, how about that these hunters are tricky people must be in our blood If a hunter doesn't want to be found. She won't be found, so she's not found. Angela isn't admitting defeat. Maybe we could just try again. I know, well she I'm married again. She's married right, not by blood?

00:50:43
Speaker 2: What am I talking about?

00:50:44
Speaker 3: Like?

00:50:45
Speaker 1: I know?

00:50:46
Speaker 3: I have a question for the two directors that both directed sit comes. If you had the opportunity to direct a Boy Meets World, would you have preferred an earlier Boy Meets World where the scripts were better but we weren't as fun and lucid relaxed, or a later Boy meets World where we're like having fun and trying to make each other laugh?

00:51:08
Speaker 4: Which ones would you have picked?

00:51:10
Speaker 1: I'll take green any day. Good writing and green actors. That sounds like a joy.

00:51:15
Speaker 5: It's so much better to be in that situation than like pro actors and not good material, because then you're then you're then you're trying to convince actors to do things that you also don't believe is worth doing. You're like, why does my character walk over to this side of the room and say this thing? You have to like, yeah, I got to come up with it because you're like and you know there, yeah, there reaches a point where we're like, just do it, just say it.

00:51:40
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I don't. Yeah, that's the worst position to be in. The director.

00:51:44
Speaker 1: I hate it when that happens. When because I go in every single day with my hope being I am going to help these actors believe what they are going to do today with I'm gonna they are gonna believe it. And by the way, if they're not believing it, we're gonna work on it. We're gonna work on it together untill they do believe it. So if I if I put them in blocking that they don't like and they go, ah, this doesn't feel right. I don't want you to do it, then what would you do. Let's figure something else out. Let's dig in together, let's let's come up with it. But if if at the end of it, what it keeps going back to is but why am I even doing this? And I can't I don't know it either because I'm like ooh, and by the way, for the most part, you an actor. I worked with an actor on a show who's an adult on a kids show who needed motivation, like the very stereotypical what's my motivation?

00:52:42
Speaker 2: I mean, for every line.

00:52:44
Speaker 1: For everything, but what is my motivation? And I prided myself on that show of like I the amount of motivation I come up with off the top of my head is should be studied. It's unbelievable how quickly I can throw something out and she'd go, oh, yeah, make sense for that, and I'm like, make sense right, So yeah, it's.

00:53:06
Speaker 5: And nine times out of ten is that confidence that they need. It's not the actual answer, right that somebody has an answer? Yeah, yes, yeah, and great.

00:53:13
Speaker 1: Now I can put that in my head and I'll deliver it with the confidence you just did and and will be good. So when you when I can't even come up with an answer, come up with it. I'm like this, you know, yeah I And then I say, do you want me to bring it up? Do you want me to talk about it? And I will. I will, because again I feel like part of the biggest, the most important part of my job at the end of the day is protecting the actors. Of course, it's to deliver the product the showrunner wants. But I am the liaison and the voice to the showrunner for the actor unless the actor says no, I will do it. That's what I always ask I'm not going to share what we're talking about unless you want me to. But sometimes they don't want to be the person to say to the showrunner I don't like it, and they would rather me do it, and so I always off for that. Anyway, I'll stop talking about.

00:54:02
Speaker 5: You know how we talked about like the way that like Boy Meets World and then Girl Meets World, for sure, the characters become sort of self aware and like talk about themselves as characters, which this episode is another example of, like.

00:54:14
Speaker 2: Sean's gonna do the Sean thing unless she's less Sean, like because you're the one who always does that. I realized it actually.

00:54:24
Speaker 5: Is the show becoming the Writer's Room, Like it's it's the characters.

00:54:28
Speaker 1: Mattson wrote an episode where he got to do the map the writer strong Sean thing. Yeah, it's like.

00:54:35
Speaker 5: They're sitting there having conversations as the writer's room and then realizing, well, this conversation can just be the scene, which is like it was such a weird writing thing that happened to Boy Meets World because like if you went back, what they would have is they would have those kinds of conversations then figure out how to make the characters naturally do those things, but instead they just decided to have the characters talk like writers in a writing room talking about their situation.

00:55:01
Speaker 2: And that's what's so infuriating about. It's like by season seven and then all I think all of Girl Meets World.

00:55:06
Speaker 5: That's what the show is is a bunch of writers sitting around being like, well, I'm the character who does this, and you're the character who does that?

00:55:12
Speaker 2: How do we tell you? And it's weird.

00:55:14
Speaker 1: Yep, you're right. We could not shut up this episode. I don't know what got into us, but I hope you like it. You can listen to part two of this episode later today. Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell and Writer Strong Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara sudbachsch producer, Maddy Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at Pod Meets World Show or email us at Podmeets World Show at gmail dot com,