Apex and The Netflix House Style | SVU

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Speaker 2: Charlie's Then is a grieving woman on a dangerous solo adventure. Tarn Edgerton is the sociopath who's hunting her. It's Apex, which is new this week on Netflix. I'm at Singer and.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get to gran Isle Narrows.

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Speaker 2: Fee an easy, why loud way, the best way.

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Speaker 3: I think you can handle it. Yeah, they think I can handle it.

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Speaker 2: When Matt Damon was promoting his recent Netflix thriller The Rip, he gave an interview where he discussed the process of working on a film for that streaming service. Quote, the standard way to make an action film that we learned was you usually have three set pieces. What in the first act, in the second one in the third. You spend most of your money on that one. In the third act, that's your finale. And now they're like, can we get a big one in the first five minutes? We want people to stay. Damon then added that Netflix also wants quote the plot three or four times in the dialogue because people are on their phones while they're watching, and if they continue pushing things in that direction, Damon said, quote, it's going to really start to infringe on how we're telling these stories. And that brings us to Apex, Netflix's latest action thriller. This one stars Charlie's Theren and Taron Edgerton. She plays Sasha, grieving widow who tries to take a restorative trip through a wildlife refuge in Australia. While getting supplies for a solo hike and kayak trip, she meets a friendly local named Ben played by Edgerton and he helps her ward off some pushy hunters. But wouldn't you know it, Jordan, the friendly local is even more dangerous than the hunters, and when Sasha stumbles across his camp out in the forest, she discovers he is something of a hunter himself, only bum bum bum. He likes to hunt the most dangerous game, and then he pursues Sasha with a crossbow and a variety of other weapons. Now, this is our first review of a Netflix original film on the New SVU, and what I would like to know, Jordan, is whether you see Matt Damon's comments about Netflix's house style. If we can call loud and unsubtle exposition and frequent ritual bombass as a way of jolting people to pay attention to their televisions instead of looking at their phones a house style reflected in Apex. Does this movie feel like one whose storytelling was infringed upon by its distributor or did you feel like you were watching something near the peak of streaming storytelling?

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Speaker 3: Good question. The answer is I actually don't think it has too much of the Damon style. Notes we'll call them the Damon notes, even though they're not from him. And that's because I think this movie could have existed, you know, drive in theaters back in the day, or like you know, kind of b movie in a theater, and it would have been very, very similar. That being said, it's not a particularly original film, so it didn't need the streamlining notes because they were kind of baked in there already. It was already pretty pretty rote. That doesn't mean it's a bad movie. It's not bad. I feel it's not bad, but it's certainly not a revolution in cinema, and it's nothing that you know, I didn't feel ripped off watching it at home versus the theater. I mean I could. I mean, if I try to place myself in the year nineteen ninety seven and if I went to see this with friends back in the day, would I probably would have had an okay time. But I don't feel like this is one where it's like, oh my god, that's really was screaming for the theater. I think my couch and my pause button to go get a snack was the appropriate venue.

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Speaker 2: What about you, Well, there were moments, I would say where I could hear mister Damon's notes, As you said, they were kind of echoing through my brain. There was a couple of times. First of all, I thought the opening.

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Speaker 3: Was so.

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Speaker 2: Kind of on the nose and absurd, and I guess this is maybe sort of spoiling this opening scene, although it is the very premise of the movie that she is this grieving woman who's looking to heal, but the opening has her and her husband or or you know, romantic partner.

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Speaker 3: I guess, I don't know if we we know exactly one and check if if she was wearing a ring, but yeah, they were together, her and Eric Banna yea.

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Speaker 2: Spana He's yes, and he is. The things he says in his scene are such intense foreshadowing that he's about to die. It's like a scene in The Simpsons, like from a McBain movie where they have, you know, McBain's partner is like, I only got four more days to retire at McBain, I'm getting too old for this stuff, McBain, and then like he gets riddled with bullets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then McBain screams, men doze.

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Speaker 2: It's it's I mean, he literally almost says I'm getting too old for this ship.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's.

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Speaker 2: He They essentially have that conversation. It was so on the nose that I was like, they're setting this up so hard. He can't die in the next three minutes. It's but in fact he can, and he does. It definitely is for people who are like, oh, put it on, I'll be in. I'll be in a minute. I'm just finishing watching the dishes. But you could start the movie.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's for It's for people who are not quite paying attention.

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Speaker 2: My other the other moment that I the one other moment where I was like, oh, this is exactly what Matt Damon is talking about. Is so relatively early in the film, she's she's out alone in the wilderness in Australia. She she hunkers down for the night, she puts her backpack in a tree, and then when she wakes up in the morning, her bag is gone, and we soon learn it's because of the evil work of Taren Edgerton. And literally, as she's wandering around looking when her back is turned to the camera, there is an eighty yard line where she literally says, where is my bag?

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Speaker 3: Is okay?

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Speaker 2: And it is literally what Matt Damon is talking about. Anyone who is looking literally, if your eyes are in the direction of this, and you have been paying even half attention, you know what has is missing, and you know what she's looking for, of course, but it is that line is only there because someone gave a note that said, we want to make sure for the the people who are doing the dishes, we're playing sudoku or or you know, or on TikTok, we want to make sure they understand what she's like, right, because when she puts her bag down, there's no upbeat music, there's no dialogue. It's a great ques.

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Speaker 3: Let me just check my email real quick. It's right, it's that's what it's there for. Unfortunately, Yeah, we're living in dark times and that's what it's there for. Now. My issue with the very very very first shots, not even first scene, was talking about on the mountain. Now on the mountain, we're going back the very beginning of APEX. Yes, they're in the troll Wall in Norway, which I'm gonna I didn't bother to check if it was real because I want it to be real enough. Trolls, troll Hunter, that movie, troll Hunter, great movie or anyway. So the first shot really looked like green screen, really looked like the volume, and I was like, oh, this is cheap garbage, come on, But then the next shot looked kind of real, Like I don't think Charlie's thereon was truly, but they they did a good plating or whatever they like, somebody went somewhere and shot something. There was actual location footage in between all the CG and it was a real hodgepodge between, Like cause I don't always catch the CG shots, I suspend my disbelief pretty pretty quickly, and I'm not thinking it is this is this computer? Is this real? But even I was noticing, like no, the light is hitting, going like that's fake, fake ass shot. And then like but I think that SHOT's real, but that one's fake. It was like back and forth, and it was kind of driving me nuts, and that sustains itself throughout the whole movie. It's like, yes, shoes a lane either be totally fake or shoot it on location and do it like they did in the old days. So that really troubled me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think while you were saying, oh, it wasn't that you know earlier, I.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 2: I think if I saw it in a theater, I think for me the hang up ultimately even more than these little nitpicks I'm giving just about some of the dialogue being so on the nose. I think I could very easily forgive that if the movie and the I don't know what to call it, for lack of a better maybe the extreme sports or the outdoors stuff actually looked like it was filmed outdoors and not on a green screen because just too much of it. You're right, there are some establishing shots. I thought, some of the like the whitewater rafting seances, it seem very clear, if not Charlie's, someone was in a raft and going down rapids, And there are some nice shots in there. Some of that stuff is pretty exciting, pretty and it looks park looks great. I mean great, Sure I'll go to Australia that park with a guide. Not much so I can get hunted by a maniac. But you know, but the movie is bookended by these mountain and climbing scenes that just they just look so fake as anything with the actors in them is just so clearly shot on a sound stage, and it is just it is just deadening to the stakes and the drama. And before we were recording, we were discussing the movie Free Solo, where you're watching a documentary where a actual human being actually climbs, you know, these real places, without ropes, without assistance in some cases. And I have been watching this documentary series that's airing right now on HBO Max called The Dark Wizard, which is about another like famous rock climber, and there is this footage of him and others in the show, you know, really scaling mountains. And let me tell you, there's nothing more thrilling than that kind of footage. It's my palms start to sweat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm crazy. I'm easy with this stuff.

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Speaker 2: If you convince me that someone is up very high, I will immediately be invested. And I'm not afraid of heights. But I just find that very exciting. Yeah, and this movie never gave me that feeling even one time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, obviously Shirley's thereon is not going to climb up this crazy mountain or go nuts on a raft, would go down a waterfall. But there I feel like thirty years ago they would have shot this and made it look more convincing. And now with the technology, it.

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Speaker 2: Just it just it's too easy to fake it. Yeah, I mean you say, Charlie's thereon wouldn't go up on a mountain or whatever, but one I don't. Maybe maybe in another erab she might have. I mean sol Vester Stallone was up in the mountains for Cliffhanger, Tom Cruise, I mean Tom Cruise hanging off that mountain in the beginning of Mission Impossible. Not as an incredible sequence. Okay, he's not a human being, but it's exciting. And even if Charlie's isn't gonna do it, there are stunt doubles who used to do this sort of things. Yeah, and then you cut to a close up of the star, and then you cut back to this stunt double, and you have at least kind of convinced me that even if the actor themselves isn't up there, somebody is up there. There's some sense of peril. And what you see in this movie is just it's just so it's so fake that basically it's like, well, I can't just be really excited because it feels real. I have to really care about the characters and the story, and.

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Speaker 3: That the other problem is that that's yes, is that she well, first of all, maybe this is just my insanity, but I you know, I have a very sour grapes opinion of anybody who's a thrill seeker because I think, oh, I could never do that, Therefore they're an idiot. And I'm like, I watch Free Solo kind of wishing that guy would drop dead the whole time because I'm like, you know, this guy's so cool, he he has no fear. I really hope he splatters on the ground. So maybe that makes me a bad person, So you know I didn't. I immediately am like kind of negative, like yeah, I got my arms crossed. Then the whole point is that, like you know, it's not her fault. Well it's not entirely her fault that Eric Bannon dies at the beginning, but it's like seventy percent her fault, right is that fairness? Like she's too cavalier and she's too joky.

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Speaker 2: And well, I mean again, it is the the whole thing is them talking about she's.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've got to stop. No, I want to keep going. It's like we can make it. We can make it, yeah, you know, and like she's got and this.

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Speaker 2: Is why we climb together, is to make these good decisions. And you're like, oh man, it's they're both they're in real trouble here. And then I saw the guy whose name isn't above the title, he's in real trouble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I got annoyed because, like, you know, they're climbing the mountain, and then she like disappears to the outback for five months, and I'm like, does she have a job, Like what she's got a cool like what do people the people do for a living? Yeah? And then I guess maybe should we give like a super spoiler away? I mean right, I mean we're allowing save any super spoiler for the end. I'm gonna there's a super spoiler coming for the end that I'm proud to say I never ever ever predict the twists, and I predicted this the minute they were in that convenience store only because I, oh, okay, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: Well again this is a movie where yes, I think I do, But again it just gets us back to without spoiling what you're specific, I'll get talking about just in general again, like Eric Banna on that mountain, nothing is is the hand is heavy here, everything is really layered, really thick. Nothing is here by accident and no line of dialogue that no matter how casual it seems, I mean, or not casual, because I mean they don't nothing is casual.

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Speaker 3: In this movie. They're really making it very obvious. But I thought tarn Edgerton, yes, was a compelling villain, very creepy, very he was good. He was good. It's many from a gas station. Hey, having fun. Something got into my gear last night and took everything. I'm sorry, so drastic. Obama be angry, just kind of looking for that gear. So look, it's very simple. He's going until the very end of this song to get his far away from mus again.

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Speaker 2: You want to shooes him, it'd be fun.

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Speaker 3: I will say.

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Speaker 2: There were times where he was almost so disturbing. I almost don't want to watch the film, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really wanted I want him to get his come up. And he's a good job of being a bad guy.

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Speaker 2: He's riding a wave that's uh, it's dangerous because you can tip over into Like, I don't want to actually watch you torture this woman.

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Speaker 3: I just want to turn off.

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Speaker 2: You're just so creepy and green and weird.

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Speaker 3: I want to turn it off.

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Speaker 2: But I felt he kind of he walked that line close enough that yes, I would agree. I think he gives a pretty good bad guy performance. And I will say there was this is one of those movies where suddenly something happens and.

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Speaker 3: I go, oh, this is what the whole movie.

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Speaker 2: Should have been about. I mean, it might be getting too close to an ending and a spoiler as well, so maybe we can also discuss this in a very brief spoiler. But basically, like an hour and fifteen minutes into this ninety minute movie, it arrives at a point in the story where I was suddenly extremely interested in what's going to happen, and I was like, a better movie would make this the crux of the movie rather than just typical running and shooting and white water around, which was all fine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't poorly made that I mean like, I mean, the issue we discussed with the CG was poor, But I meant like, Charlie's is a great You know, she's on the run, she's got a madman shooting stuff at her, she's got her she's handcuffed, but she's got to think her way out of each of each problem, and she's compelling. I mean, she's Charlie's she's the best. I mean that part is good and the look is good, I will say, and you tell me. There were at least two moments, probably more where she really had an opportunity to end this movie by well, yes, I'm like, just just do that, just kill him, just do that, and she didn't, like she was doing something else.

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Speaker 2: This is not a long movie, and it feels like it could be half as long because the first are several cases where both characters seem to be prolonging this, this cat and mouse game. Yeah, for the purposes of only prolonging it to a length which to try to Yes, the people who deem a feature needs to be ninety minutes long.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean he I could understand because he's you know this, he's crazy real, he's thrilled. But the first time is when she sprays him with the bear mace or whatever pepper spray, pepper spray, and he's like raw, and then she runs up the hill to try and get her foot out of the thing. It's like, no, you have an opportunity right now to take a rock and smash his head, in which she does try to do later, so she's not above head smashing with a rock. She was like, I'm like, like, smash his head in, you fool, you have your opportunity, or try to drown him, which also she tries to do later, and then later when his footsall mangled, there's and he's screened like. She really had several moments where it was just like and now I finish you, but it didn't happen, and it was very, very frustrating, But yes, that's life.

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Speaker 2: Sam is sending us a note saying that he thinks no one listening cares about spoilers. They've either seen it or they never will see it, or they're watching because.

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Speaker 3: We spoiled it.

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Speaker 2: So all right, I think we've talked enough anyway that we can. Now let's get into these spoilers. This is your last chance.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. What's what's on your mind? I'm gonna blow her by his mind. They go into the convenience store before she's going off on her vision quest into the Great Outback, Yes, and she buys her supplies and then she's like, oh, what's this is my Charlie's impression, Oh what's this? Some beef jerky by that and.

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Speaker 2: My eyes are closed and I feel like I'm on a zoom call with Charlie's there, and Charlie's I loved you and mad Max.

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Speaker 3: She's great. She buy some beef jerky and this is like minute eighteen, and I'm like, oh, that beef jerky is the dead flesh of humans that she's gonna find in a cave later, and it was now here's what's amazing. Later we find out that Taron Edgerton is not only beef jerkyizing his previous victims, he has like a whole thing about his mother, Like he's trying to like live up to the memory of his ghost mother and he's crazy. There is a movie that came out this year that is now streaming called The Hermit, which no body on planet Earth watched. It came out literally four to six weeks ago. I never even heard of it.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I actually reviewed this film for fangoria dot com. Okay, and the only reason I reviewed it is because lou Ferigno is in it and I have a fondness for you. And lou Ferigno plays a madman in the woods who traps people and turns them into beef jerky to please the ghost of his mother. What no enough meat skinny. So Charlie's Strong's Apex, directed by Baltis Are whatever his last name is, Baltis Ark has ripped off the Hermit. Start. This is a case of parallel thinking.

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Speaker 2: But yes, that is unbelievable that that two movies could have a mystery beef jerky subplot in the span of a couple of months.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: The Herd one more, one more, and we got a trend, Jordan, you know what they say, three and you can write a think piece.

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping it happens.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see in like in like a month and a half in Slate dot com.

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Speaker 3: That's all these beef jerky human meat movies. Well, I mean The Hermit is in a way somewhat superior to Apex because it's so stupid and so z grade. But I will say some of the action in the Apex is good, and you and tarn Edgerton is is good. And Charlie Jarvin Roderdson is better than good. He's great in this. I'd say he's good plus and Charlie's very good. So let me tell you.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you my little spoilery element that I liked and we'll see what you thought about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready. What I was.

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Speaker 2: Intrigued by was an hour and ten fifteen minutes into this movie. Through as as we've already noted through like sort of a a fog of plot extending circumstances that are a little ridiculous, you wind up in a scenario where they are tethered together by like a wire and handcuffs or whatever, and to escape, they will, they will. They are going to need to work together. They're like in a gorge or a valley and they have to climb. Now again, this is another spoilery thing, which you know, you saw the beef jerky and you're like, this beef jerkey is made of people. I saw the tether them tethered together and said, okay, well, she's going to have to like free herself of her guilt by letting go of another man, this time a act of ritual cleansing. I knew that was coming. But I will say the idea of like being chained to a madman in the wilderness and having to like sort of work together to escape, that's kind of a fun idea. It's like the Defiant Ones meets you know, the River Wild or something. I'm like, Okay, now I'm now you're giving me some this has had this is an idea with some juice.

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Speaker 3: But it's the end.

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Speaker 2: It's like the last five minutes, he's already got like by the time they start working together, he's got a gangrenous leg. He can't do anything. And it's very obvious, Like this should be very dramatic and suspensal, but like he's already maimed at this point. We know what's gonna happen. There's no way that he can do anything to her. She's gonna he's gonna threaten her, She's he's she's gonna let him go. Like it's very obvious. It's sort of a fade a complete at that point. But I will say that idea is is kind of fun. And they have a scene where they're like we're gonna have to work together, and I'm like kind of.

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Speaker 3: Rubbing my hands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a little juice in this scene.

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Speaker 3: I like a little juice. Give me some juice. I want the juice. It was it was good and I just find you know, I've never understood mountain climbing. It's like, yeah, but you look like such an outdoorsman. No, I've never understood, like how like how like how do you get the notches in there? And this kind of shows it, like they stick a she's sticking a rope into like a hole a crag, I guess, And it's like, yeah, that's enough to care like it just seems to me, I've never like you see mountain climbing like free solo. I understand, he just goes and he finds a way, but when they have like the the bolts in there, it's like, who's drilling the bolts? Well, this kind of shows it a little bit. Yeah, you know a rock wall at the Crunch Fitness I understand, you know, this is much different. I got to say, anybody who climbs a mountain is a moron and they deserve to fall to their desks, like Eric Dannett. There's no reason to do it. There's so many better ways to get exercise. If you want to have a nice view, I take a drive, you know, But to climb a mountain like this, I have no sympathy for those people who drop dead every year they try to climb K two and forget it. No sympathy from me, none, zero.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I will say that I've always wondered how do they make beef jerky? And now you learned about rock climbing, and I learned about jerky Prince Tero.

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Speaker 3: So this is a very.

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Speaker 2: Educational film all around. Maybe it's not a masterpiece.

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Speaker 3: No, it's okay. Isn't the best movie we've watched so far out of three? Probably? I guess you know that I have a weird fondness for balls Up, but I will Let's put it this way. If I were to go in the other room right now, and my wife were to be on the couch and she would be opening the Netflix and she says, hey, there's this new movie with Charlie's Should I watch it? I'd say, yeah, it's not bad, you know. I mean, have your read Brothers Karamazov? Have you read War and Piece? I mean, if you've gotten those checked off, then yes, you should watch this, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then what if she responds by saying, you know, we should go rock climbing sometime, how do you respond in that scenario.

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Speaker 3: I like to take an nice path with a with a map and like a little string that you can hold onto on the side they have now at some parks, I like I like going to parks that you know. But like, like I said earlier with a guide, I've never been to Australia. I hope to someday. But when I do go, I'm not roughly.

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Speaker 2: Day away from the convenience store Jerky. That's the lesson here. So that is APEX and it is streaming now on Netflix.

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Speaker 4: You make a good tang down we I.

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Speaker 3: That was our review of Apex.

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Speaker 2: But maybe you don't want to watch Apex. Maybe you already watched Apex. Maybe you have a fear of heights and watching a movie about rock climbing is it your cup of team. Maybe you just hate all people who rock climb and wish death upon them, like Jordan.

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Speaker 3: I don't I guess I did say you literally? Did you? That's what you said? I didn't mean. I take it back. It takes it back. Okay, good? Now, may there's more.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you have a fear of Welsh actors doing Australian accents. Did you Did you have a problem with Taron Edgerton's accent in the film?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I thought his accent was quite good. I bought it.

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Speaker 2: And she you did say you've never been to Australia, right, you never mentioned that? Or maybe you have a fear of watching people climb rocks barefoot? Did you have a problem with that?

00:28:42
Speaker 3: Jordan?

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Speaker 2: The end of the movie, Arliss, are you out of close ups of her feet?

00:28:46
Speaker 3: Are you asking me if I liked seeing Charlie's Stern's feet where you really go? I am? Maybe I'm not? How are you gonna respond? I had no issue with that aspect of apex. Moving on.

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Speaker 2: That's why every week on SVU we have Wrecks WREXE, where we give you two streaming recommendations inspired by this review. We give you two random recommendations of things Jordan, Jordan and I have watched recently ourselves, and for the first time, we each have a personalized recommendation where Jordan and I give one of our listeners some suggestions catered specifically to the services that they use and the kind of movie they want to watch. These are movies guaranteed they will love them, guaranteed, or they will get their money back. And remember this podcast is free as hell. Now let's start. Jordan, why don't you go first? What is your pick for a related recommendations.

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Speaker 3: Pro Taron Edgerton that guy's all right in my book, okay, whether he's playing an Australian man or not. Yeah, or whether he's playing Rocketman. Oh, the Elton John biopic, because this movie has been much on my mind. In theaters right now is a motion picture called Michael making a lot of money and causing a little bit of controversy for a couple of reasons. The movie Michael, in my opinion, is is bad. It is not good. I mean, the music's great, and the dance sequences are great, and that's you know, that's fine. I think the movie is just a piece of junk. It's just it's just poorly.

00:30:32
Speaker 2: I thought it was not kind enough to Michael. It should have been more fawning and more positive.

00:30:36
Speaker 3: It's just garbage. It's just a garbage made for TV piece of trash. And then there is, of course the element of the fact that there is a there is an awful lot of evidence to suggest that Michael Jackson was in fact a serial molester of children, which is nothing to joke about. And obviously, you know, the movie is not about his entire life. But the movie is very praiseworthy of this guy. That is a very leaves a very difficult legacy. Let's put it that way. And then you know, other musical biopics lately kind of haven't really hit. I thought the Springsteen movie, and it pains me to say this because I love it was not that good. And what hurts me so much is that Bruce likes the movie, and I like, I want to my friend Bruce and like love Bruce. We love Bruce. I just saw him. I saw him a week ago with with friend of the Pod Chris Rosen. We went in Newark. It was great.

00:31:30
Speaker 2: We were following my round Freehold are you No?

00:31:33
Speaker 3: We went? We went. That was at Jersey No. I saw him at the Friggin where the Devil's playential I saw. I saw the Man and his and the EA Street went to see his show. I went to see the Man in concert. I spent a lot of money to go and I had a great time. So but anyway, the movie, it hurts me. It's not good. It's it's boring and it could have been better. And then you know, Bohemian Rhapsody certainly made the zillion dollars it won. I think Rymie Malleck is very good in it, but it's that also is like a lame movie. But here Hiding in plain Sight is a good musical biopick that's recent. Rocketman came out in the Year of Our Lord twenty nineteen, by my math, that's still relatively recent, and it was directed by Dexter Fletcher, who shadow directed Bohemian Rhapsody, and it is what these things should be. It's tells the story of the guy's life. It packs all the songs in there, and it has some pinach it has. It has storytelling and visual panache. It kind of feels like a Broadway musical put to screen. For those who haven't seen Rocketman. What it does is it has these flights of fancy. When they break into song, they have musical numbers, and that's something that that you're not seeing in these other in these other films, And why not do it that way instead of having it like these montages or these like they're in the studio coming up with the riffs. It's like play to the strengths. Now, granted, Elton John's music is very theatrical and it lends itself to that. But anyway, you know, I don't even want to compare it to the other films. Let's just compare it to itself. It's just damn good. And for whatever reason, it wasn't a big success. It wasn't a flop like it made. It made decent money, but it wasn't. It didn't do as well as it should have, and I don't think as many people remember it as a should have an I am just a big fan of Rocketman, and I think Taron Edgerton is sensational in it. Full stop. You love the movie too, right, was?

00:33:30
Speaker 2: I certainly was probably the best of that bunch that you mentioned. I can't say that. I've it's lingered in my memory all that. Well did you mention where people can watch it right now?

00:33:40
Speaker 3: I don't know they can watch it on TV? Well, it's uh, let me go to just hold on. It's probably on one of the stream if it's everything's like four bucks on, it's on hold On. It's four dollars on Amazon. Probably it's Paramount Plus. It's plus Sam's helping you out, you know. I see it's available on Paramount if you subscribe to Paramount Plus, and if you don't, you can rent it for four dollars on Amazon or Apple or Fandango at Home. Formerly known as Voodoo and Bazooka.

00:34:17
Speaker 2: Bazooka had it and then they lost it four bucks. There was a fight over the right.

00:34:23
Speaker 3: You should watch it again, you should put to put your paramount plus I will. Maybe it is. I would say that it was this.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: It's probably the strongest of I mean, it's certainly better than Michael, It's certainly better than Bohemian Rhapsody, and yeah, it probably is better than the Springsteen movie, which maybe I liked a little more than you, but certainly I would say was a disappointment compared to my expectations as a fellow fan of the Boss and as a fan of Jeremy Allen.

00:34:45
Speaker 3: White, that one it just didn't quite I went and bring it home. I you know, I want to see it again because I went in guns blazing and I'm like this, this is what I'm saying. I don't know. He's good though. I like that guy.

00:34:55
Speaker 2: He's a very good actor. What's your if that was his finest hour?

00:34:59
Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know, Frocking Man was not a flop. It made two hundred million worldwide on a forty million dollar budget. That's it's not a flop. I ain't stretch, but it's.

00:35:08
Speaker 2: It's it's it's definitely well below the bohemian rhap city threshold.

00:35:12
Speaker 3: It's so much better than bohemian rapsy. What is your pick?

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Matt saying that well this, this is nice because you went with arn Edgergen. I I went with Charlie's I've Got a Arley's film. Thought, given her and given Apex, why not pay homage to the undisputed queen of the Netflix action movie that she is way too qualified to be doing. The first one of these that I can recall and still my favorite, is my recommendation. It is The Old Guard from twenty twenty. It is available, as I mentioned on Netflix. This is based on a comic book that I haven't read, actually, by a writer that I tend to really like, gentlemen by the name of Greg Rucka. I've read quite a few of his comics, but not this one, so I should get around to reading it at some point. The film, though, is about this team of immortal warriors who cannot be killed, so they spend their endless, eternal lives roaming the earth. They're kind of like an unkillable a team, you know, they're a crack commando unit. They're still wanted by the government as soldiers of fortune. And you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the old guy.

00:36:30
Speaker 3: And what's that. It's a pun. You're old because they've been around for centuries. In The Guard, it is a pun. It is a pun. I'm sure the title is a pun. Yes.

00:36:43
Speaker 2: In an era where we are constantly reminded that movie stars are not what they once were, especially at the box office, something like The Old Guard, I feel like, really proves the value of a great star like Charlie's. I mean, in some ways that's true of Apex too. I suppose her mere presence adds a lot to these movies in terms of the dramatic weight, in terms of the credibility of the action, in terms of having someone gorgeous to look at for two hours and six minutes, let's not forget about that aspect. And in terms of premises, I am not sure there there is a more plausible premise for a film on Netflix then Charlie's. Theren is actually an immortal warrior who has lived for centuries, righting wrongs, protecting the innocent, and looking magnificent. I believe that you don't have to convince me. I'm sold immediately. And there's some pretty thrilling, maybe an impressive action set pieces in this film. The action is better in The Old Guard than it is in overall than an Apex. A lot of fighting and shooting and Old Guard. It's funny because there's Old Guard. There is an Old Guard to an Atomic Blonde was beforehand. That's a netflixer also, right, well, it may be on Netflix. I don't that played in theater.

00:37:58
Speaker 3: Okay, it's funny. There's another movie. When we were prepping our little podcast and I was thinking, also, I was considering Old Guard, and I was saying, what's that other one? Charlie's is in into Netflix. It's like The Old Guard. And I discovered a movie that I could have sworn she was in, but she's not. Have you ever seen the Netflix original gun Powder Milkshake. I certainly have heard of it. I'm struggling to remember if I have. It's the same as it's the same as The Old Guard with without Charlie's. It's with Karen Oh. Hell, what is her name? The old Edgerton? No, no, no, she's in the Guardians of the Galaxy. Hold on what is her name do. I didn't think I'd be talking about this. That's why I didn't look at it. You brought it up. Yeah, Karen Karen Gillan. Karen Gillan stars. I think I did see this movie stars she stars as. We didn't get Charlie's star on. That's what she stars as. And it's everybody else. Michelle Yo is in it, and Lena Headley and and Carla Gugino, all the all the gang is in this. And they run around and they smash things and they and they save the day and it's the same. It's it's. I could have sworn Charlie's was in it, and I'm googling and googling and I couldn't find it, and I thought that was kind of funny. Well, and it's a fine movie. It's It's, It's It may as well be The Old Guard three, and nobody would know the difference so.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: Well, in terms of The Old Guard one, I do think it's a.

00:39:29
Speaker 3: It's a.

00:39:30
Speaker 2: It's a it's a good enough time, certainly to watch on Netflix. It's kind of a less stupid and less silly version of Highlander, but it does have good action. It's well directed by Gina Prince Bythewood, who is, you know, kind of an underrated filmmaker, has made a lot of good movies, Love in Basketball, The Woman King my favorite, Beyond the Lights one of my that's a real movie.

00:39:51
Speaker 3: That's not that's an actual movie, that's actual movies.

00:39:54
Speaker 2: And then you know, and and and and she gives this one the gloss of an actual movie too. This is I think this is a it's worth watching if you look. If I'm looking for a Charlie's movie on Netflix, I'm gonna watch The Old Guard again before I rewatch Apex.

00:40:08
Speaker 3: I will, damn.

00:40:09
Speaker 2: So that's my That is my related recommendation this week, that it is not Guard on Netflix.

00:40:15
Speaker 3: Not the Apex of Choices. Well no, no, all right, let's get to our ran.

00:40:21
Speaker 2: The recommendations is just something anything we have watched recently. What what is your pick this week, Jordan. I know you're kind of waffling here which one to talk about.

00:40:29
Speaker 3: I'm going to go in with I'm gonna be honest here. Well, I did watch Roommates, which is a new to Netflix film with Adam Sandler's daughter, which I did not care for at all. I have nothing, I have nothing. I have nothing positive nor negative to say about the movie. The movie doesn't even exist. I saw it five days ago. I don't remember any of it. But I also because I'm preparing a piece that I'm writing for another outlet about there's a forthcoming Animal Farm. Andy Serkis is doing an Animal Farm, which I have not seen yet. I was doing my due diligence and I watched both previous animal animals Farm, I guess you could say, and there is one from the so I watched both of them today. They're both available on Amazon Prime if you if you are a subscriber, they're free. If you're not a subscriber, they're four bucks each. The first Animal Farm came out nineteen fifty three fifty four. I did not know until today that it was partially financed by the CIA. Because Animal Farm is an anti Soviet book written by George I should probably take a step back. For those who don't know, who didn't have it as sign to them in ninth grade. It was a book written by Novella, written by George Orwell, who was a leftist thinker but an anti Soviet and it's about how Soviet style communism was not so hot Joseph Stalin not the nicest guy in the world. So the first one, the first one is quite good. I mean it's got like hand drawn animation and the narration is good. And I was surprised. I've seen it before. I saw when I was a kid. I was like, oh, this Animal Farm is kind of good. But what I did not know is that in nineteen ninety nine, not during the height of the Cold War, nineteen ninety nine, soon after the fall of the Berlin Wall, so a totally different world, there was an Animal Farm made for TV and it actually won some Emmys, and it is a live action movie in which the animals are a hybrid of actual animals pigs and sheep and goats and horses and all that, and then there's Jim Henson animatronics. It looks really really good, and I was just like, hey, this is actually kind of great. Now I am going to tell you who voices some of these animals. The main character, you could say, and it's new to the ninety nine version, is they Because there are no women in the first Animal Farm, so they took gonna bore you, but they took the character of Benjamin the Donkey and made it a dog, and Julia Ormond is the dog. Paul Schofield, who is still alive in nineteen ninety nine, he is the boxer. He represents the hard workers who are eaten down by the Stalinism. Old Major who is the Karl Marx character is Peter Eustenoff. Wow, Julia Luis Dreyfus is a is a voices of a horse. Ian Holme is the is the kind of snotty character sucking up to the Stalin character. I'm getting to the good stuff here. Kelsey Grammer is the Trotsky character Snowball. And there's like shots, there's shots of a pig painting with a hoof, and you hear Frasier doing an English accent. For animalism to prosper, we must convert all the animals on all the farms.

00:44:03
Speaker 1: We must send out pigeons out to spread the message of revolution.

00:44:08
Speaker 3: Does he hear the blues a calling? At end point? The main villain for those who read Animal Farm in ninth grade is Napoleon. He is the representation of Joseph Stalin and he's bad, he's evil, and his voice take again, who who's the I've given you a lot of British actors nineteen ninety nine. Who I'm gonna say, give me one you got.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, based on looking at the Wikipedia page while you've been rambling on, I'm gonna say it's Patrick Stewart.

00:44:40
Speaker 3: It's friggin Picard as Stalin the Pig, and he's like a sloppy pig getting a drunk on whiskey. Like I'm like, holy shit, this is the How have I never seen this before? This is amazing?

00:44:54
Speaker 2: And this is the animatronic animals.

00:44:56
Speaker 3: It's some snigs of actual actual you know, like the Adventures of Milo and Otis animals. And then when they go in for the close up, so them talking, it's an animatronic. It's like drop of the hood, but you know style, and I'm telling you forget my love of Picard and just all that. In general, it's actually pretty I mean, Animal Farmer is a compelling story. Obviously, it's very well made, and and it's and then it's it's it's st Patrick Stewart as as the evil Pig. What more could anyone want an entertainment? So I give this a strong endorsement if you want to see something that's gonna blow your mind. Uh, there's no way this future one with Andy Serkis can compare. And I did not know this existed. I probably was direct to TNT or something. I don't know where it aired. Hallmark Entertainment was one of the production companies. Yeah, I went straight to V I mean I it showed somewhere in the USA on television. Maybe in Britain it was on the BBC or something. But it's it's surprisingly watchable and it's also not that long. Oh tn T it was on TNT And there you go.

00:46:01
Speaker 2: There you Who does who does Jonathan Fraakes play in this?

00:46:06
Speaker 3: Who is? Who does which car?

00:46:08
Speaker 2: Is he like the sidekick of of the Stalin character?

00:46:11
Speaker 3: No, that's that's he in Home. That's he in Home.

00:46:13
Speaker 2: Actually no, they missed him, real chance there.

00:46:15
Speaker 3: But and Pete Postlewait plays the drunken farmer who's like, oh, they're geese attacking me. Cool blondie. You know it's pretty great.

00:46:24
Speaker 2: Is that?

00:46:24
Speaker 3: And then Brett Spiner is who Lucy Marina Curtis is not. Shatasha Yar is not in this either. The Crystalline entity does not make an appearance, nor does lore Data's half brother Fellow Soon Class Android.

00:46:41
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I should I I've really opened a Pandora's Box.

00:46:45
Speaker 3: Here is there? Is? There?

00:46:46
Speaker 2: Is there a next generation episode called Pandora's Box.

00:46:49
Speaker 3: There must be. I feel like they find no I think that's the one with with with uh Moriarty when they first go into is that called the Pandora's Box or maybe it's.

00:47:00
Speaker 2: A I can't believe you have to look this up. I can't believe you don't just know this off the top of the dome. Shame on you. I am a shame on you. I am all right, Well you're looking this up. Yeah, let's get to my random recommendation. Mine this week is inspired by the upcoming release of Pixar's Toy Story five. With that movie kind of looming on the horizon, I just kind of got a weird itch to watch all of Pixar's short films, which are streaming on Disney Plus. If you want to watch these and you don't have Disney Plus, quite a few of them. Pretty much all the early ones are on YouTube. You can just find them on YouTube. A lot of the later ones, the more recent ones are harder to find. There. You're gonna need Disney Plus for a lot of those, and as a movie lover in my forties, I think it's almost I'm required by law to care about Pixar, not just like the movies. But there's this weird, I don't know, compulsion. I feel sometimes like when they have a new thing coming out to contemplate the history of the company, have they lost their way? Is it time for a comeback? Do they have too many sequels? Is light Year about Buzzler you're the toy?

00:48:22
Speaker 3: Or is it the.

00:48:22
Speaker 2: Origin story of the human buzz Lightyear that the toy is based on, and and so on and so forth. And I fully admit that it is very weird that I think about these things and that I almost care about this company that I have no financial stake, in no relationship with other than just being a fan of their movies, since the original toy story came out when I was I was probably like thirteen fourteen years old when that happened.

00:48:48
Speaker 3: But I kind of do.

00:48:49
Speaker 2: And and one of the things I do like about Disney Plus, which I subscribe to, I have little kids. I almost it's you know, I kind of have to subscribe to.

00:48:58
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean that's almost like child abuse, not Disney it's.

00:49:02
Speaker 2: Like it's like a utility in mi ams basically, you know, it's like you got to pay the phone bill, you got to pay the gas bill, you got to pay the Disney Plus bill because and we do use it certainly more than any other streaming service in my house. We were watching a Muppet movie on there last night, So yes, it's it's very important in this how and they have basically everything Pixar has ever made on there, not just the features, but they also have all of those shorts, which there was a nice period where every single one of the features came with a short, like it was preceded by one, which was great. Doesn't seem like it seems like they've kind of gotten away from that. I think a lot of the resources that would go to making short films they are now put towards making TV shows for Disney Plus or to make a series of shorts for Disney's Plus.

00:49:57
Speaker 3: Does Pixar do shows.

00:50:00
Speaker 2: They have done a couple of shows which I've actually the most recent one I did not watch. They had something that was on there not that long ago called Win or Lose that was I think about a kid's baseball or softball team and I have not gotten around to watching it.

00:50:15
Speaker 3: Which of the shorts is you can only choose one? Which is your favorite of the shorts? Well, that's what I was going to kind to get to.

00:50:21
Speaker 2: It's like a couple of my favorites, because they're they're not all fantastic. Some are better than others. I think my personal favorites would be I love Bounden.

00:50:33
Speaker 3: Do you remember Bounden?

00:50:35
Speaker 2: No? It's a lovely little parable about a sheep that is learning to live with like the annual ritual of being shorn. And it's a there's like kind of a spoken word kind of poem that goes along with it.

00:50:51
Speaker 3: Oh, that does sound familiar. So every year long about may they load him up and aid, haul them away in ads, shaven and dump him all neked and bear. He learned to live with it. He didn't care. That one is very good.

00:51:08
Speaker 2: And I am also a fan of one man band from two thousand and five. That's the one that's like about a rivalry of these two buskers. They're competing for like a young girls tip, excuse me, like a tip, like a coin, a tip she throws a tip in a.

00:51:28
Speaker 3: Hat kind of thing. I didn't see that one here's the best one. You're guessing it the one with the birds on the wire, that's the best one. That's a good one too. It's very funny. The other one that.

00:51:38
Speaker 2: I really like is Presto. Do you remember press?

00:51:41
Speaker 3: Is that the guy's writing notes to somebody.

00:51:44
Speaker 2: That's the one where there's it's very kind of Looney Tunes ish and it has it's kind of like a magician locked in a road Runner versus Wiley Coyote style battle with the rabbit. He's supposed to pull out.

00:51:57
Speaker 3: Of his hat.

00:51:58
Speaker 2: That's not the rabbit refuses to go in the hat.

00:52:00
Speaker 3: So one there incorporated. There's one that incorporates the old Mickey Mouse cartoons. Or is that not a Maybe that's not a Pixar.

00:52:11
Speaker 2: That may not be Pixar. I'm trying to think. I don't think that's a Pixar.

00:52:13
Speaker 3: One of the best one is the best one is the birds. They're very cute. And then there's one where the guy's writing notes and they like letters and they fly through his He's like in France or something, and they fly through his windows. I remember that image, but it sounds great. No, don't you remember this one where he's writing notes. Maybe it's like in black and white, maybe shades of blue, maybe some teal in there. He's he's doing something with no maybe I'm writing one. That's one is the birds, and the fact that you didn't list that one proves that you don't know what you're talking about. The birds one is greatly superior to all of the others. Now there's one that everybody hates. I never saw it, the one with the volcano. One saw Lava. I'm gonna watch it immediately.

00:52:55
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you need to watch it, and next week I want you to report back on the show.

00:53:00
Speaker 3: Why do so many people hate Lava so much? It's got a it's got a ridiculous song. It's about all the ridiculous songs. It's about a volcano that's in love. How is that any different than any other nonsense in cartoons?

00:53:13
Speaker 2: Instead of saying I love you, it says I Lava you.

00:53:17
Speaker 3: We thank you. This guy to a love for children. It's cute. I love it. I think love is great. I haven't seen it, but I'm gonna love it.

00:53:32
Speaker 2: Okay, Well we're gonna find out next week.

00:53:34
Speaker 3: To tune in next week on.

00:53:35
Speaker 2: SVU for Jordan's seventy five minute review of Pixar.

00:53:41
Speaker 3: Short outraged people. People.

00:53:43
Speaker 2: People are very Yes, people get very upset about that short film. I don't know that I would get that upset, but it's it's not great, but you're gonna watch it. You're gonna tell us next week, we're gonna clear the rest of the schedule. It's gonna be an all lava episode of SVU. But in the meantime, if you want to watch some Pixar shorts yourself, you can find them on Disney Plus.

00:54:06
Speaker 3: Ah love it.

00:54:17
Speaker 2: All right, Here we go our first personalized recoon again. You can send us emails feedback at film spottingsvu dot com. And what we like to do here is we love to help people. We're givers, We're helpful, we're service journalism. We want to help you get the most out of your streaming bucks. Send us a note. You can also do this on Facebook, Facebook dot com, slash film Spotting SVU and we actually this is where this first request comes from with someone sent us this on our Facebook page. Nice actually, Eddie, Eddie on our Facebook page send us this request and wrote any deep cuts in noir, comedy or crime. I have access to pretty much all of the streamers, so feel free to cast a wide net. So you have a wide net to cast Jordan. You can go anywhere and any streaming service. A deep cut in noir, comedy or crime? Do you have a recommendation for Eddie? Is it noir comedy and noir qui or is it noir Comma comedy, Comma crime? It's there's a there's three, there's three, there's two commas Noir, Comma, comedy, Comma or crime.

00:55:32
Speaker 3: That's like every movie?

00:55:33
Speaker 2: Well, he is there one that would fit the bill? Any any movie that's a noir, a comedy or crime that's a deep cut?

00:55:41
Speaker 3: O deep cut? Oh you need a deep cut? Do you need me to give mine? While you're thinking here, yeah, yeah, you give yours. I'm gonna try to think of a deep cut comedy or crime. Yeah, I have a deep cut noirr film. Hopefully it qualifies as a deep cut. It's a deep cut to me.

00:55:56
Speaker 2: I recently watched this on the Criterion Channel and I had never heard of it before I watched it, So hopefully that counts as a deep cut. I picked it because one it was only seventy eight minutes long, and as we previously discussed on the show, we only watched short movies on stream.

00:56:12
Speaker 3: Big fans of that.

00:56:13
Speaker 2: The real reason I picked it was because Criterion Channel had it in one of their collections. A big fan of kind of brea housing the collections on the Criterion Channel. This one was called Three Noirs by Jacques Turnur.

00:56:28
Speaker 3: Oh and Jock Movies.

00:56:29
Speaker 2: He makes very good movies. He's the director, in fact of probably my favorite film noir ever. Do you know what I'm gonna say.

00:56:36
Speaker 3: Here, Jordan uh Jaque Turner. He made Out of the Past, maybe.

00:56:40
Speaker 2: Sure, right out of the Past with Robert Mitcham, and I've I've watched a couple of his other films, including one or two other noirs that he has made here or there over the last few years. So when I saw this collection on there and there was one movie I hadn't seen, I wanted to check it out. It's called Nightfall from nineteen exactly from nineteen fifty six, directed by Jacque Turner, written by Sterling Silliphant, who also he was the writer of In the Heat of the Night. He created The Naked City created Perry Mason.

00:57:12
Speaker 3: So you got a good. Uh, you're talking about his good credits? What about the junkie did like the score?

00:57:18
Speaker 2: We're we're going to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative here. Okay, the movie stars Aldo Ray. He's playing this guy clearly harboring some sort of dark secret as he makes this way through a very noirish city, very dark and shadowy. Guys are looking for him, they're following him, so immediately you've got the right paranoid mood of noir. And the cinematography in this movie is by this guy named Burnet Guffey. If people do know this movie, they know it because it has kind of famous, famous in quotes, famous among noir aficionados for having really kind of luscious cinematography, very shadowy, very high contrast, very dark. But that said, one of the kind of things that's interesting about this noir without spoiling why, is that even though it starts very kind of prototypically in a shadowy city, it ends on this blindingly bright, snowy mountain range in the middle of the day. From this very dark photography to kind of this blindingly bright photography, which is kind of interesting. Supposedly, Quinn Quentin Tarantino is a fan of this one. Supposedly, this is a movie that he showed to Bruce Willis as they were prepping pulp fiction, and they use the Aldo Ray character to kind of help find Bruce Willis's characterization in the film. And I think when you watch it, you do kind of see it. You can kind of see a connection. This is one of those movies where like that you feel like every guy should be called a Peluca and every woman should be called a dame.

00:58:59
Speaker 3: I would not rank Nightfall with.

00:59:03
Speaker 2: Out of the Past, that is a far superior film noir, but I found it to be very effective in Atmospheric has a great title, maybe the greatest noir title ever. Nightfall can't come up with a better noir title than that.

00:59:16
Speaker 3: Pretty good.

00:59:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you want a deep cut noir film, I think it qualifies. If Jordan hasn't heard of it, if I haven't heard of it, that's a pretty deep cut.

00:59:25
Speaker 3: So they embarrassed.

00:59:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my recommendation Nightfall on the Criterion channel.

00:59:33
Speaker 3: Well, I have a deep cut recommendation too, And I was, you know, furiously googling and checking and this is available to stream legally. I'm happy to pronounce it is a movie. I'm going to say the name, and you're gonna go what, I'm gonna recommend the movie Roadhouse. What there? You go do that again? Take two? I'm going to recommend the movie Roadhouse. This is not the Patrick Swayze film or the remake. Didn't There was this a Jake Gillenhall movie also right, which I never saw. This has nothing to do with that movie. There is a movie called Roadhouse from nineteen forty eight, and it is really good and it really occupies a great part in my brain because I just had so much fun seeing it for the first time not that long ago, at the Noir Film Festival, which is an annual event. I think it travels actually, and that guy Eddie Mueller, Eddie Muller, Muller, Eddie Muller is that his name affiliated with the TC and CM. My wife and I were in this is this is like this ship like this never happens, but it happened to us. We were in d C and we were driving back from d C through Silver Spring, Maryland, and I said, and we had.

01:01:04
Speaker 2: You said you could be my Silver Spring And I said, blue green colors flashing, I said, time spell on you, but sorry.

01:01:12
Speaker 3: I said, we're in Silver Spring, Maryland. There's a really famous movie theater here that I've never been to, the AFI Silver Short. Great, I've never gone. Let's go and see what they're showing.

01:01:25
Speaker 2: And she said, I'm gonna go climb a mountain, a far more suitable activity.

01:01:31
Speaker 3: We went to the IFC Silver and we didn't even know it was Film Noir Fest weekend. And there are people dressed up. Everybody's guy's wearing suits. In the bathroom, there's dames looking like the malls, you knowames left right, and Eddie Mueller was there given a spiel. And we saw the nineteen forty eight Roadhouse and it's great. It is. It stars Ida Lupino, who also was a director, and Cornell Wilde, who also later was a director, but neither directed Roadhouse. Cornell Wilde made The Naked Prey. I love that movie. We'll talk about that someday. Is directed by a guy named Jean Negulesco. He was a Romanian director. And there's original Harold Arland songs in this, and it's and and Richard Woodmark is in it, and.

01:02:20
Speaker 2: Love Richard Woodmark. Now youre talk in my language.

01:02:22
Speaker 3: Basically, what I remember is it's all set at a roadhouse, obviously hard to believe. And Richard wood Mark is the owner of the roadhouse. And his name is Jefferson T. Robbins and they call him jeff Dy and it's jeff Dy's Roadhouse. And I since we saw this years ago. Whenever we're like at a place, my wife and I, if we're at a place that looks a little bit like old, like forties fifties, we go, hey, we're at Jefty's Roadhouse. Look at that now. Jeff Y's Roadhouse is a combination of several It's a bar, I think it's a hotel, and it's a bowling alley, and it looks like it's from the Flintstones. Even though this was made in forty eight, it has that fifties style architecture. I think there actually are like a room with stones on the wall, like it looks like it's got that Flintstones vibe. And they're all hanging out of this place, and when they're not drinking, they're bowling, and when they're not bowling, they're hanging out upstairs. And then there's the usual stuff. There's I don't even remember the plot that's shooting is chasing. There's anger, But all I know is that the location, it just lives with me, and it has made a strong impression. And I strongly recommend watching the nineteen forty eight Roadhouse. I just checked. It's not streaming on any of the services. You can't even pay three ninety nine on Apple or Amazon. But I just checked. There are two quality streams, quality uploads on YouTube, and it probably means that the rights fell through the black hole somewhere. And I endorse watching things on YouTube. I don't endorse tor renting anything, but if it's on YouTube, to me, that's kosher. So check out Jeffty's Roadhouse and you're gonna love it all right.

01:04:07
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty deep cut too, because I did not know that there was a nineteen forty eight roadhouse either. So there you go, two deep cut noirs to check out. You're welcome Eddie on Facebook. What'd you say your name was, Pete? It's a tricky name, Pete.

01:04:24
Speaker 3: What Morgan?

01:04:26
Speaker 2: Oh, mister Morgan, I'll be very happy if you just get Jeffty for me.

01:04:29
Speaker 1: Oh well, Jeffy's a little busy right now.

01:04:32
Speaker 4: I usually handle the details.

01:04:35
Speaker 2: Such so well, I'm Mill Stevens, new entertainer from Chicago. Right now i'd like to sleep.

01:04:42
Speaker 3: Hey Matt Singer, what's this week's game?

01:04:44
Speaker 2: Well, what an incredible segue, Jordan, thank you for asking. It is time for the weekly game segment. It went so well on our first episode. I am once again going to test your knowledge of the star of our featured review by asking questions based on information from her page on Letterboxed. This is letterboxting. The shar broiled edition, Oh very nice, is going to be an all Charlie's edition of Letterboxing.

01:05:17
Speaker 3: I think this is going to be the one Sam's going to get on the board because I am you nil on these games, and I feel like when I you know, as I mentioned, I thought she was in gunpowdered Milkshake earlier as I was looking at Charlie's resume, there are quite a few films of hers that I have not seen. I'm not anti Charlie's. I like her, It's just that they slipped through the cracks. So I don't know, I think.

01:05:42
Speaker 4: But now you've refreshed, you've you've just took through her filmography.

01:05:46
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm by the way. We got to play by the rules here. I don't we should not be looking at Wikipedia. No, I would hope you're I'm not, God forbid, I'm not doing all right.

01:05:57
Speaker 4: I thought we might have been playing the keychain game or whatever it was called, with both our k both Cormack cars. Filmography.

01:06:05
Speaker 2: Okay, beast, now that you've sort of set it up where you're trying to uh, kind of explain away your inevitable defeat here to prime the pump, are you ready to begin, gentlemen, remind us how it works the game. These are just going to be questions based on information that I gleaned looking at Charlie's Theron's letterbox page Letterbox, the wonderful movie app and website where you can log films, you can track films, you can see what other people are watching. It's a wonderful website. We're all on there, and I use it as a resource. It's an invaluable resource in my life, and so I've decided to.

01:06:48
Speaker 3: Exploit it for games. And that brings us to right now, and we just go if we want to, buzzy, just buzz in verbally, buzz in.

01:06:56
Speaker 2: It's worked fine so far, and give your answer. I have this time, I have prepared seven questions. There are seven questions, one more chance to lose.

01:07:07
Speaker 3: Now I'm right for Sam, Sam, they.

01:07:10
Speaker 2: Are going to get They're going to start relatively easy and get a little harder as we go. At least that's what I attempted to do. Okay, So here we go with question number one. Charlie's biography on Letterboxed claims she came to international prominence in the nineteen nineties by playing the leading lady in three Hollywood films, Mighty Joe Young, The Cider House Rules, and This bonkers nineteen ninety seven thriller, also starring the subject of our first edition of letterbox It's Devils. Sam is indeed the Devil's Advocate. Sam, you're on the board one to nothing, Jordan. Have you seen the Devil's Advocate? I have more than once, weirdly enough, and I didn't know the answer to that. But I didn't get in fast enough.

01:08:02
Speaker 3: But it has a quality, but it's not the great has a quality. Who's the other woman in that? Who's the non Charlie's woman in that?

01:08:11
Speaker 2: I don't know. I only remember Charlie's was in it. For some strange reason that I'd rather not say.

01:08:17
Speaker 3: Devil came out around the seven same time. Also, the other woman was Connie Nielsen. Is that who it is? It's just for Jones that I mean everybody?

01:08:28
Speaker 2: Is wee Pacino's Patino's monologue in the film Ye truly a thing of a thing of beauty on a scale of one to ten, ten being the most depraved act of sexual theater known to man.

01:08:45
Speaker 3: One being your average Friday night run through at the Lomax's Household. I'd say not.

01:08:51
Speaker 2: To be a modest Marianne and I got it on at about here we go? Question number two is everyone ready do my best?

01:09:01
Speaker 3: Okay?

01:09:01
Speaker 2: Question number two, when you filter Charlie's Theren's filmography by average user rating her worst reviewed film ever ever, is this twenty twenty five Netflix release a sequel to an earlier.

01:09:21
Speaker 3: The Old Guard two?

01:09:23
Speaker 2: That is correct? Jordan is correct. The Old Guard to a sequel too, and earlier Netflix movie also starring Charlie's.

01:09:31
Speaker 3: Theron, The Old Guard.

01:09:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, The Old Guards average it's letterbox score, the average of all its user scores is three point one, and The Old Guard two is two point one.

01:09:45
Speaker 4: For a flux, I was waiting for it.

01:09:47
Speaker 3: But no, no, don't get ahead. Maybe maybe maybe it's coming of us.

01:09:52
Speaker 2: All right, So now I just tied up one to one, one to one, and I have to say, as much as I did recommend the Old Guard one earlier on the show, I don't think I've been able to get all the way through the Old One.

01:10:04
Speaker 3: Two. It is pretty bad.

01:10:06
Speaker 2: Different director, different just does not have the same ring a ting flavor.

01:10:12
Speaker 3: I'm afraid.

01:10:12
Speaker 2: Okay, question number three, We're all tied up at one.

01:10:16
Speaker 3: Here we go.

01:10:18
Speaker 2: Charlie's Theren has made, according to Letterboxed, sixty feature films, and, according to Letterboxed, the one with the shortest run time. The shortest runtime among her feature films is this eighty seven minute animated feature, also featuring the voices of Oscar Isaac, Chloe, Grace Moretz, and Snoop Dog.

01:10:46
Speaker 3: Name that film? Oh wait, no, no, no, no, name that film.

01:10:52
Speaker 2: Since neither of you know it, I'm gonna see if I can give some more clue. Shield on, I'm opening up the letterbox page. Both seem lost in thought. I thought this one wasn't as hard. We may have a problem.

01:11:05
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of animated movies with big actors. They come and go. This Secret Life of Pets four get a year.

01:11:11
Speaker 2: On this Mat twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen film. It is a animated version of a long running series. It is a has been made into live action features and this was an animated film which also got a sequel. Really, I have eaten tie in food based on this motion picture, like.

01:11:37
Speaker 3: A Scooby Doo or something. I guess I have to buzz in a Scooby Doo or.

01:11:40
Speaker 2: Something incorrect, incorrect. We may not be able to get this one director.

01:11:45
Speaker 3: Do you have a director? Do we have a.

01:11:47
Speaker 2: Conrad Vernon and Greg Tiernan. Other voices in the cast include Finn Wolfhard, Nick Kroll, Bette Midler, Middler, Alice and Jenny Martin, Short, Katherine O'Hara, rest in Peace, Titus Burgess, Jennifer Lewis.

01:12:06
Speaker 4: This isn't like a sing, No.

01:12:09
Speaker 3: It is not a sing. The characters to sing at the premiere and I was so just down, just depressed by how awful it was. I had to get out and just kind of walk around the lobby for a while, and then I had to go back in. I was reviewing it, so I had to stay. But it was just so, and that was the first one. What is what is this cursed film? We can't take it anymore.

01:12:33
Speaker 2: It is the Adams Family, the animated version.

01:12:37
Speaker 4: Of the There is no even give us the theme song or something out.

01:12:42
Speaker 2: I was about to, but Jordan said, just tell us, So I decided, why prolong the act?

01:12:46
Speaker 4: Is only number three? Or were we had number four? Is that number four?

01:12:49
Speaker 3: It was number three? We're gonna get harder? Was this Charlie's was yes. Charlie's was more tissue. She was this is not true. This never happened, and it.

01:12:57
Speaker 2: Was in the eighty seven minutes. I think that's this segment of the show is longer than okay. Question four still tied at one to one, according to Letterboxed Charlie's. Theren has executive produced four films in her career, the aforementioned and clearly Unseen by these two Gentlemen, Adams Family, a documentary called Last Call, When a Serial Killer Stalked Queer New York, and two Netflix films, A twenty nineteen comedy and It's twenty twenty three sequel starring Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston, which Charlie's Thearron does not appear in name the film series.

01:13:42
Speaker 3: Oh, Murder Mystery.

01:13:45
Speaker 2: That is correct for some reason, maybe she was supposed to be intern at some point. I almost it Lee's then is the executive producer of Murder Mystery?

01:13:57
Speaker 3: Was she murdered?

01:13:58
Speaker 4: She possibly the murdered.

01:14:00
Speaker 3: I don't think she's in either one. I have seen both of those films, and they are not terrible.

01:14:07
Speaker 2: I remember the first one being kind of okay.

01:14:09
Speaker 3: It's kind of the second one, they go to Paris, They're on the Eiffel Tower running around. It's it's not that bad.

01:14:15
Speaker 2: The first one we would have reviewed on SV and been like, you know what, this is the best thing we've seen on this show in months. I mean, it's no Hub Halloween, but it's it's certainly not Hub Halloween. Is the filet of the of the Adam Sandler comedy Sure okay, Our score now two to one in favor of Jordan, with three questions left, it is still Anybody's game.

01:14:40
Speaker 3: Anybody's game?

01:14:41
Speaker 2: Question five. When you sort Charlie's filmography alphabetically, the last movie on the list is a twenty eleven film whose title starts with a why a why.

01:14:56
Speaker 3: WHOA? Okay, yes, Jordan, this is young adult.

01:15:00
Speaker 2: That is correct, Jordan. I didn't even have to give the plot synopsis, which I.

01:15:04
Speaker 3: Was spared to do.

01:15:06
Speaker 2: Why Jason's young adult?

01:15:10
Speaker 3: Good film? Come on? Sam? Can I can? I?

01:15:14
Speaker 4: Can I use her letter box?

01:15:16
Speaker 3: Could I get? This is what I'm saying.

01:15:17
Speaker 4: So during the break, I said, it's time for me to move into it's a host role. It's time to get two pros playing the game.

01:15:24
Speaker 2: No, because I like being the host because then I never I never have to act like I know these things. It seems like I know these things just by reading them off of paper. Okay, well it is still you can still actually there is a way for you to still win.

01:15:39
Speaker 3: Sam.

01:15:40
Speaker 2: You need to get this one though. This is going to be important. This is really important. Somebody disconnect Jordan's microphone accident. Okay, here we go. Number six. Jordan, are you ready? You're moving around? Well, I'm excited, you know, excited. Streak potentially is the most exciting thing that's happened to the Okay, number six. Charlie's Theron has played an Imperatore. She has played Immortal Warriors.

01:16:11
Speaker 3: In the Old Guard.

01:16:12
Speaker 2: She's played an inter dimensional witch. She played more Titia, which you guys didn't know. She's played anime icons, but as far as I could tell based on her letterbox page, she has only ever played one queen. And she played this queen twice twice in a forgotten blockbuster from twenty twelve, and it's even more forgotten sequel from twenty sixteen. If you can name both movies, I will give you a point for each.

01:16:42
Speaker 3: What are these movies?

01:16:45
Speaker 4: Oh?

01:16:46
Speaker 2: No, blockbuster from twenty twelve, it's sequel from twenty sixteen.

01:16:51
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess.

01:16:52
Speaker 4: I think it's The Huntress Huntress or something.

01:16:56
Speaker 3: It's the snow White movie. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

01:17:00
Speaker 4: No, White and the Huntress, The Hunter, the Hunter, the demon Hunter was the demon Hunter?

01:17:05
Speaker 3: Did he hunt? He was?

01:17:06
Speaker 2: He was a huntsman, huntsman, huntsman. Yes, Now, I'll give you a point for that, even though I probably shouldn't for the sake of keeping it interesting. But now, can you name the sequel to snow White The Huntsman?

01:17:22
Speaker 3: And yeah? No, nobody can do this.

01:17:26
Speaker 2: You might have you reviewed sing I reviewed this movie. I reviewed it to Now, wasn't this the second song? White like Thor wasn't even in it at this point, right, he was in the backwards Thor was the only one in it.

01:17:39
Speaker 3: Oh there, Stewart's not in it. Yeah, Christmas Seward.

01:17:43
Speaker 2: Played snow White and snow White and the Huntsman. They got rid of the titular snow White, right.

01:17:49
Speaker 3: So it just became like the Huntsman and the.

01:17:52
Speaker 2: Hunts the Huntsman, what if you can You're very close.

01:17:57
Speaker 3: The hunts Huntsman's Shadow, the Huntsman, the Search for the Golden Parachute. It's yeah, no one, no one, No one knows that one.

01:18:06
Speaker 2: Are we ready to give up on the sequel?

01:18:09
Speaker 4: The Huntsman versus or the Huntsman comes to collect the.

01:18:13
Speaker 2: Huntsman of Colon, all right, I think.

01:18:18
Speaker 4: A dragon slayer.

01:18:20
Speaker 2: No, no, the Huntsman Winters War. Yes, there it is true Huntsman Winter's War.

01:18:29
Speaker 3: It's so funny. She I have to have to speak about Christmas Stewart please. That movie, That Snow White movie is so goddamn boring, and it inspired her to become a good actress because it was after The Snow White, which was a rough production. I think she was stepping out on her boyfriend or something. There was a lot of director. Yeah, yes, she was stillup in the director and it changed allegedly, but it was all for the best because she was kind of on an A list trajectory. She's making studio movies and that we're doing well at the box office, and she said enough of this, I'm done, and like her next project was probably Clouds of Sales Maria and suddenly it's like, guess what Christen Stewart actually can act? Who would have thunk it? Give her a good project and now she's talented.

01:19:14
Speaker 2: And Pattinson, they both have become very interesting actors. They make great usual team choices.

01:19:21
Speaker 3: Team Jacob's doing nothing. That guy raw meat out of cellophane bags. That's what he did.

01:19:28
Speaker 2: You know what?

01:19:28
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking huntsman. Now, he when he was Team Jacob, when he was just a big, hulking mass of muscle. I read an interview and I don't know Rolling Stone or Vanity Ferris saying it was like what do you have? And he just has bad in every pocket. He had bags of ground beef and he was constantly eating beef. And that's how he became Team Jacobs.

01:19:50
Speaker 2: Is that the excuse you used to when we when I when I see you walking around with bags of meat.

01:19:55
Speaker 3: It's tied. The game is tied Matt Singer, Sam and Beethoven.

01:19:58
Speaker 2: And it's three to two.

01:20:03
Speaker 3: Tie.

01:20:03
Speaker 2: It's okay, they can't be tied if Sam. This last question, make them make them easier. Hard this one, this one, okay, this one's pretty tough.

01:20:14
Speaker 3: Okay, oh boy, here we go. Last question.

01:20:19
Speaker 2: You can not only filter an actor filmography by genre. You can filter on Letterbox by multiple genres, meaning you can click a genre like let's say science fiction, and then click another genre, let's say drama, and it will filter down just the movies that fall into both categories. And in fact, according to Letterbox, shar Lees has only appeared in one sci fi drama in her career. This nineteen ninety nine film, co starring Johnny Depp, the only feature film directed by movie and TV producer rand Raviitch. Rand Raviitch, This is a tough one. This is a movie that this is a movie that barely exists like.

01:21:10
Speaker 3: Drama, sci fi drama.

01:21:12
Speaker 2: It absolutely is wait wait no no, wait no wait.

01:21:17
Speaker 3: It's no because that's got al Pacino, not Johnny dev.

01:21:22
Speaker 4: Read the read just start reading the plot description.

01:21:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, that might give it away, but let's see. Okay, hold on, that's fine, all right, hold on, we're loading.

01:21:31
Speaker 4: HS box will emerge from the back of my mind just from.

01:21:34
Speaker 2: The miss this may give it all right, Well, be ready because this may give it away, but I'm going to read it all right. When Astronauts Spencer Armacau the astronaut's wife, that Jordan is the correct answer.

01:21:50
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't want to read The Astronauts Simone one that I don't think. I don't think who's Evan Rachel would is that Simone? That's what it says. Katherine Keener, Rachel Roberts as Simone Rachel Roberts, and Simone Jason Schwartzman's in it.

01:22:17
Speaker 2: I don't think I have ever seen Simone. My apologies to Simon.

01:22:21
Speaker 3: No, and I like Andrew Nickel too, and I never saw it. I heard it was bad, and back then I didn't get to see movies for free. I had to pay, so you know it didn't happen.

01:22:29
Speaker 2: Well, apologies to Simone, but congratulations to Jordan Hoffman. He has once again. He's three and oh I wanted Sam Streek continues.

01:22:39
Speaker 3: I wanted Sam One to win, but I also respect him too much to let him win. I wanted him to win on his own, a fair fight. I don't think I know.

01:22:49
Speaker 2: I know Sam wants to take over the hosting of the games and pit us against each other. I don't think I can. I can relinquish until Jordan loses. I think we have to ride the streak.

01:22:59
Speaker 3: Oh man, we got to ride the streak until he until people engaged.

01:23:03
Speaker 4: They'll come back next week just to see it, all right.

01:23:05
Speaker 2: I mean, this is an exciting one because it was. It was tooth announcement.

01:23:09
Speaker 3: Astronaut's Wife.

01:23:13
Speaker 4: Of the Huntsman's Winter's.

01:23:15
Speaker 2: War War, The Huntsman Winter's War.

01:23:18
Speaker 4: Harder Mystery colon Winter's War. I get it, all right, that's all I remember it.

01:23:25
Speaker 3: You know, Matt Singer. Next week, a lot of cool stuff is coming to streaming on Prime Amazon Prime, the only streaming service that means you get free delivery on paper towels. The House of the Spirits, which is a very famous novel by Isabella Allende. I don't know Ada Allende. It's a famous book from the early eighties, and it's an eight episode Spanish language adaptation and of course it was made into a film in the early nineties and Meryl Streep and Winona Ryder. But this is you know, this is a Spanish language version with the actors that are actually speak the language of Spanish. That's going to be great. Also, this is kind of exciting. You know, we're at that time of the year where a lot of big movies from the Oscar season are coming to streaming, not for a three ninety nine rental, but they're on the services themselves. Marty Supreme, which was my favorite movie of twenty twenty five, is going to be on HBO Max. If you didn't see it, you can watch it there. Also coming to HBO Max a movie from earlier this year that was a big hit at the box office, Wathering Heights, Emerald Fennel's Wathering Heights with Margot Robbie and Jjky and I liked it. Others I enjoyed it. I didn't see it. Apple TV has got a new horror comedy series called Widow's Bay and it's from Katie Dippold, who you know, she's Parks in rec alumni. She co wrote The Heat with Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy, which I love I love that movie, The Heat. That is I that's one of my I think that's my favorite movie from Paul Figue. I think that's my favorite Paul fig movie more than bridesmaid Yeah, I think it is. I think The Heat just for whatever reason, I just I just I just really love it. I love Bridesmaids too, Don't get me wrong.

01:25:16
Speaker 2: Bridesmaids, I think is an absolute.

01:25:18
Speaker 3: Masters They're both. Yeah, bridesmaid is great.

01:25:21
Speaker 2: Only someone would write a book that chronicled that era of Hollywood. Wait a minute, I did it, and it's called Funny Business, and it's coming out in October. You could pre order a copy now. There's a whole chapter about Bridesmaids.

01:25:37
Speaker 3: Wow, and I love what's her name in bridesays? Kimmy Schmidt? What is her name in real life? Kimmy Schmidt, the Redhead? Yeah? Yeah? What What's what's she doing right? Where's Ellie Kemper's career right now? What does she do?

01:25:50
Speaker 2: She's taken over for you on SVU if you can reach through this list of.

01:25:54
Speaker 3: Time, get her as a guest. All right, So I'll watch Widow's Bay from that. That's when I it's set in a tiny New England Island Town. It stars Matthew Reese, Stephen Root, I Love Stephen Root, and Dale Dickey. The three episode premiere starts on the twenty ninth, and then weekly episodes through June seventy. This is going to be the new Shit's Creek Widow's Bab that's on Prediction. Yeah. Similarly Oscar film Oscar Time movie from last year. Park Chan Wook's No Other Choice is going to be on a Hulu something going on on the Criterion Channel a five part series called Conbody Versus Everybody. And this is a five part docuseries from Deborah Granik, who's made the great movies Winters Bone and Leaves No Trace. I loved Leaves No Trace. That movie's really good. Thomas and Mackenzie and Ben what's his name Foster? Really yeah, Ben Foster. But this is a documentary. It's about a former convict who creates con Body Jim, a gym inspired by workouts he developed while he was in prison, and it's staffed by formally incarcerated trainers. And you would think, yes, people go to prison to better than you know, to turn their lives around, and when they come out they've they've they've paid their debt to society. We want to rehabilitate them. But you'll find that there is prejudice against the formerly incarcerated and that is what this five part series investigates. I haven't seen it yet. I intend to because I am a Deborah Granic fan. Sounds good. There's more Netflix The Big Red coming up. On Big Red, there is a seven part series called Man on Fire. And he might be saying Man on Fire? Wasn't that a Denzel movie? And the answer is yes. It is adapted from the same material as the two thousand and four Tony Scott directed Denzel Washington film. It stars Yaha abdul Matin two, who I believe played was an Aquaman, remember him as Black Manta in Aquaman? He was really good and he's in this and who knows. It's directed by Stephen Caple Junior, who directed Creed two and Transformers Rise of the Beast. There's also an animated film called Swapped, and it's about a tiny woodland creature and majestic bird swap bodies Sure, featuring the voice of Michael B Jordan, Juno Temple, and Tracy Morgan. None of those although the demogramic things does sound really good. I don't think we're going to cover it because it's five First of all, it sounds a little lessoteric, and it's five episodes. If the fans are like right to us and say no, no, that does sound intriguing. I want to know more about it. So we're kind of still new to this series. Is only a third episode today. There were other streaming hits from this year that we didn't cover. Yes, so the brain Trust, which is Matt Singer, Sam van Beethoven and myself, we decided to maybe go back a few months and cover a popular streaming thing.

01:28:57
Speaker 2: One of the biggest streaming hits of twenty twenty six.

01:29:01
Speaker 3: One of the biggest hits a period letterbox. Yes, mental Letterbox, the experimental letter Box. Poor movie of the year thus far. I mean it's only a popularity. I don't think that means that people who saw it liked it. It means popularity on Letterbox is kind of a nebulous gauge. What I think it means it's I think it means how much people engage with the movie in terms of logging it, voting on it, reviewing it. It doesn't necessarily mean it's the most like highest rated film of the but it's a lot of people saw it. I mean we haven't said the film yet, no building up to that, but it's still like I mean, in the old days, this would have been box office receipts. You know, people saw it, and yes they may not have loved it, but they still saw it. The movie is People we Meet on Vacation, which is a movie made for young people like us. Yeah, so it's got Tom Blive Bliffy Blive, how does he pronounce his name? Blythe Tom Blythe who was in the most recently. We're the young people. We know how their names are pronounced. And Alan Alan Ruck who of course was in Star Trek Generations. And Emily Bater. I don't know who Emily Bater is. So we're going to talk about that next week. And I think it's a romantic film. I don't know.

01:30:14
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out because that's what we're gonna review. We're going to cover one of the big streaming movies of twenty so far.

01:30:22
Speaker 3: I hope it's good. I hope so too.

01:30:24
Speaker 2: It would be great if we could watch a good movie on this show. People make a good movie that.

01:30:29
Speaker 3: We could review. Where do you think they go on vacation? It's a Netflix Films, so I don't want to speculate. They're opening a big facility in Mammoth County, New Jersey. Do you think they go to to Shrewsbury, New Jersey? If they go to Jenkinson's on the shore in New Jersey, They're going somewhere on vacation, so I don't know why not.

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Speaker 2: So you can look for that review next week and maybe nowhere else. I don't know if anyone else is covering that movie at this point, but we are on SVU.

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