167. Steven McBee from the McBee Dynasty is here; Scheana's cheating scandal; No Jax on The Valley Season 3

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Unknown: I'm very blessed, on
one hand, because not many 18

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year olds, very, very few, in
fact, get the opportunity to

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take on a very integral role at
a large company. But on the

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other hand, you want to talk
about being thrown into the fire

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and having to figure it out. It
puts a lot of stress and

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pressure on you, and that was
something I wanted to keep from

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the boys. I didn't want it to
affect their relationships. I

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think it's been a source that is
really, you know, I'm sitting

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here 30 years old, still single
to this day, have always had

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some issues with my
relationships. A lot of that's

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self induced, and I'll admit
that, but a lot of it is because

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there is so much stress and
pressure on me from working in

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the business and knowing all of
these high importance

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situations, and so I wanted to
keep that off their backs. You

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you.

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Welcome to cocktails and gossip,
the podcast where we drink

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cocktails, but you better
believe we're going to spill the

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and I'm Amanda. Let's get into
this week's team.

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What's up? Cocktail ers. Hello

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Amanda. Hi B Hi cock Taylor. So
big news today. Last year, we

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shared that last week. They say
last year,

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yes, the summer, we don't know
what's going on. I seriously,

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we shared that we are really
enjoying the McBee dynasty on

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Bravo. It's the second season,
but it was new to us. So Bea

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reached out to Steven McBee Jr,
and asked if he'd like to come

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on the podcast. So we're very,
very excited to chat with him.

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The McBee dynasty, real American
cowboys, is a Bravo peacock

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reality series that chronicles
the high stakes life of the

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McBee family on their Missouri
cattle ranch in farm. It shows

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us the hard work and the
heartache of agriculture, the

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intense family drama of which
the four sons are constantly

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talking about who is best to run
the operation, plus, of course,

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the ups and downs of their love
lives. Welcome to Steven McBee.

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Hey y'all, thanks for having me,
we're

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so excited. Many fans remember
you. So when I first started

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posting about the make be
dynasty, and when Amanda and I

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spoke about it last week on the
podcast, a lot of fans reached

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out and remembered you from Joe
millionaire, which you started

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in 2022

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was it? Yeah, filmed in 21 aired
in January of 22

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and you met your on and off
girlfriend, Kala, I believe

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you're off with her right now.
We'll get into that. But I think

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our first question, I would
imagine it's hugely different

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being a contestant or starring
on a dating reality show, and

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now being on a reality show with
your entire family, all the

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dynamics of your work, home the
farm, how has the Bravo cameras

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entering your life changed
family dynamics?

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Well, you're right. The whole
dynamic of the show, from Joe

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millionaire to this show, it's
so much more comfortable being

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around my family, around my home
environment on the dating show.

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I was away from my family,
didn't have my phone for six

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weeks, was staying in a random
house in Georgia, so that was

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completely different. But as far
as you know, the family dynamics

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with my family now that we have
cameras in and around the office

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in and around our homes,
honestly, it's not any

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different. What you see on TV is
exactly who we are every single

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day as a family, you know,
throwing little jabs at each

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other, getting in little fights,
but at the end of the day, no

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one has each other's backs like
our family does, and we stick

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together through anything and
everything that's

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interesting. So you're saying
that it is more comfortable

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filming the McBee dynasty than
when you filmed Joe millionaire,

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by far, not even a comparison. I

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like that. It shows that you
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of the cameras, like you're in

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it. Yeah, yeah. I mean it. You
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two, it maybe took a week of the
cameras being back in and around

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our environment for us to settle
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sounds weird to say, when you
have three or four cameras, a

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sound crew and audio a lighting
crew, you know, there's 10

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people in any given room at any
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operating, you forget they're
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but it's true.

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When was Season Two filmed,

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we started in late July, and we
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wedding, which was October 19 of
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Okay, got it? Amanda, you sound
low to me? Do I know you sound

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low to me as well. We can fix it
in post, as long as you can hear

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me. We're good. Okay. Sounds
good. Okay, so Steven, we're

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curious. The last episode. So
calla comes back from Dallas in

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after she kind of left in a
huff. You told her that you told

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the four. Family that she would
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party. Then they all seemed
surprised to see her. So what

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happened with that

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situation? Calla and I were that
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You know, calla had just lost
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months prior to that, and what
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the context surrounding that
situation so you have where I

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told my family not to talk to
calla like there's this big

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fight between all of us. What
you don't realize, or what we

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didn't have time to really
showcase, was that happened 24

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hours before her sister passed,
there was this big blowout

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between my family and Calla. It
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was calling my family
hillbillies, and they were

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fighting back and forth, and I
finally said, just stop talking

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to each other. Every time you
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a fight. Just stop. Let's just
cool off for a bit. And then the

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next day, her sister passed. And
so the timing was awful, and it

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seems horrible on TV, and I know
it does. And in retrospect, you

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know hindsight is always 2020,
my family would absolutely reach

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out to calla if they could do it
all over again. But at the time,

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that fight had just happened,
and so they didn't know, like,

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if we reach out to her, is she
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because this all just went down
yesterday, this big blowout. And

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so that was a lot of the
dynamics around that whole

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situation. But with calla coming
back from Dallas. She had gone

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down there to find an apartment
or a house that she was going to

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be looking at living in. She
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with me in Kansas City, like,
even if we were broke up, I

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wasn't just going to leave her
stranded in Kansas City. I still

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love, still love her to this
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person, and I wasn't just going
to leave her on an island by

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herself in Kansas City with no
one around. So I said, Hey, I

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know we're not together, but
like, I still want you to be

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around. I still enjoy you, I
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a person no matter what. So why
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out? Like, we'll just be
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make this like, no drama, all of
all of my family, like, we'll

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just try and have fun together.

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That is very interesting, that
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because that kind of changes the
even the situation where you

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picked up second season and you
guys are in the kitchen talking,

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and she's saying how your
brother's girlfriends didn't

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reach out. It's very different
now knowing that it all happened

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immediately, like the next day,
after 24 hours, yeah, the girls

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were probably like, and then one
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Okay, well, she definitely
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And then some time passes and
they're like, well, now if we

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reach out, it's even worse
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I kind of see, I see her side
being hurt over them not

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reaching out, but I also see the
timing and how that would have

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affected their decision to reach
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Yeah. I mean, from an audience
perspective, not knowing that

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background. You know, the girls
are getting some pretty serious

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negative comments, and I
understand it. If I was an

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audience watching this show, and
I'm like, who doesn't reach out

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to even their their brother's ex
girlfriend after her sister

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passed, all that had just
happened 24 hours prior. So it

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was a very, very tough situation
timing wise. And nobody

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really knows exactly what to do
when someone has experienced

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death or a great loss in their
family, it's it always feels

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like you're second guessing
anything you do because you

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don't want to intrude, but you
want to be supportive. I can see

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how that would have happened.

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Yeah, and my family will tell
you like they were in the wrong.

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If they could do it all over
again. Absolutely no matter what

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had happened, they would have
reached out my mom the so a

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little bit more backstory. So
calla and I had broke up that

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day before her sister passed. I
came to the farm. Calla stayed

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down at my condo in Kansas City.
This would have been a Thursday

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that her sister passed. Calla
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that next morning, that Friday
to go down and look at

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apartments, stay with her
family. We were broken up that

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Thursday night, literally the
night before she was leaving for

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Dallas. Her sister passed. So
I'm up at the farm. I get the

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call from Calla. This is all
going down. I call my mom. I'm

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like, Mom, because my mom's down
in the city. I'm like, You got

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to get over to the condo. Like,
callous sister, something just

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happened. You got to get over
there. My mom was the first

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person over there to console her
and be with her. I raced down

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from the farm down to the city,
so my mom and I were there that

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night. But as far as the girls
like ally and Casey, they were

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up at the farm, and they did not
reach out to her directly. So

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but again, they would, if they
would change that in a

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heartbeat. Looking back on it,
they feel horrible about it.

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That makes so much sense. So
where I know, I believe when you

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were on Watch What Happens Live,
and we've heard that you and

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calla are broken up. That's
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off and on. So,

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yeah, yeah, no, we're, we're
broken up. And I'm sure y'all

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probably seen that. Calla and I
were together in LA probably two

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weeks before the first episode
dropped. We were doing press

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together. Still have a
tremendous amount of love and

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respect for her. You know, even
though we've gone through some

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pretty tough situations
publicly, still care about her

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so much, and we were together in
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But yeah, we are, we are broken

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up. So I ha, when you have a
reality show, right? And

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obviously it's authentic,
because it's your family, so now

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you have a. Person who's a
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family and your business. So
what does that look like if she

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wanted to continue the show?

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It's still up in the air. You
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pivotal part of every single
we've done three seasons

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together now, between Joe Maynor
and two seasons of McBee, when

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we were out there in LA, we were
having discussions of like, hey,

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what would this look like moving
forward? Like, you know, it's

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the McBee dynasty, but Cal has
been an integral part of this,

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and so I don't really know what
the answer to that is. You know,

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if there was still for future
seasons, if, if calla was going

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to be a part of the network,
wanted calla to be a part of it,

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like I said, I still want to see
her be successful, and no matter

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what, beyond anything with our
relationship. So I'm all about

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it, if it, if it helps benefit
her and she has interest in

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it, I think it would also bring
a lot of natural drama. You

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know, Amanda and I are reality
television experts, self

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anointed, and so now you have
your ex girlfriend, yeah? And it

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looks something like her having
an apartment downtown, right?

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And dating, and now you're
dating, and now they set you up

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like they may want to do that to
you, Steven, I'm just, oh, I'm

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giving

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mentally. I'm mentally preparing
for future seasons. If I walk

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into a restaurant in Kansas City
on a date that I'm going to see

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calla and some random guy in the
corner, I know. I like, I'm I'm

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like, I'm ready for that. Okay,
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right, so can we ask you if you
are currently dating? Uh,

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yeah, I've gone on a few dates,
nothing serious, no

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relationships or anything like
that, but just casual dating out

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to dinners. It's tough for me,
like, right now, I'm at my farm,

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and I've been staying at my farm
most of the time, and I am way

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out here in the middle of
nowhere. I laughed about it on

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Joe millionaire and I said, if
you hop on a dating app and you

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like, expand the radius of what
you're searching for, usually

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the radius goes out to like, 100
miles. If you do that from my

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farm, you're still not in any
sort of civilization, like big

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city or town even it's few and
far between up here. So it's

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usually just me and my dog at

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night. So can you tell us a
little bit about how the show

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got started, because it's a very
interesting premise that at

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least on Bravo or Peacock, we
haven't really seen. And so who

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showed interest in a reality
show of your family? How did it

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all happen? So

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this would have been 2019, 2020.
Yellowstone was really taken

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off, and we had so many
different people reaching out to

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us because of our farming
operation, there was a lot of

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similarities, a lot of
correlations between our farm

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and Yellowstone. You have my
Brother Jesse, who literally

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looks like a spitting image of
Casey Dutton. I fly the

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helicopter. Obviously, the
helicopter is a big part of

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Yellowstone. John Dutton is like
this big patriarchal figure, and

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my dad is same way, just a giant
personality, kind of the

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patriarch, and he has all these
sons that are working in the

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family business. So there's just
a lot of similarities. So we

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were hearing that a lot, and
then whenever I got cast on the

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dating show, we brought the top
six women back to the farm for,

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like, the hometown visits. And
every single producer that was

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here for those hometown visits
was like, your family is a

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walking, talking reality show.
We have to get this going. And

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word spreads fast. Like you
would think, the world of

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reality TV is big, but it is a
very, very small world. Everyone

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knows everyone. So once word
started spreading back in

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Hollywood about my family and
what we have going on out here

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in the farm, we had a bunch of
different production companies

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reaching out to us to shoot a
pilot episode. Ended up going

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with Jeff Jenkins productions,
just because of the track record

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of Jeff Jenkins and the trust we
had with talking to him and

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Russell, who is another
executive producer over there.

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And so shot a pilot episode,
sent it off to the networks, and

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we were lucky enough to have
several different networks that

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wanted to pick it up. Who was
the most resistant in your

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family, the girls so like
girlfriends, yes, and my my mom

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wasn't even on Season One, like
she she wanted nothing to do

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with it. She is very
introverted, very private

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person, so she wanted nothing to
do with it season one. And then

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Allie and Casey really weren't
interested. Callow wanted to

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just because she had been on a
reality show. And then my

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brothers and my dad were all
about

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it. We're thrilled to meet your
mom this season were loving her,

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so it was hard to convince her.
Do you think the fact that your

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dad wasn't filming this season
made it made her more willing?

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Yes, yeah, absolutely. I think
that she definitely would have

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been a little more hesitant to
film if my dad was around, just

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because she she doesn't want to
go back into that drama piece

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with my dad. She still has to
deal with a lot of drama off

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camera and just in normal
everyday life with him, so she

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doesn't want to put that on
camera. So I think that

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definitely helped. And the fact
that in season one, there was a

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lot of comments about galena
being our our stepmom and our

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mom and yeah, I think that made
my mom a little upset. She's

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like, Oh, yeah, I want, I want
people to know.

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So you said that actually on the
show, and then you just said

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that again. So I want to know a
little bit more when you say

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your mom has had to deal with
some of the fallout of some of

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what your dad. Can you talk to
us a little bit about that?

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Yeah, I mean, Kansas City is a
small market, so whenever you

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have a situation where you know,
a bigger business guy you know

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has a you. Highly announced
divorce. They had a giant house

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in the city, even though he was
up at the farm. So, like, you

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had all this rumors and gossip
spreading around in Kansas City,

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and then my mom ended up taking
over one of my dad's companies,

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and there was a lot of fallout
there. So there was just a lot

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of drama that my mom has spent
years trying to get past and

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just get back to, like, this
really consistent, like, very

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non roller coaster ride of a
life, because she just doesn't

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live the drama life. And so she
got past all that. And so the

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last thing she wanted to do was
be on camera with my dad,

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revisiting that

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Can I ask a question? Because
it's wasn't really clear. I get

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the sense that your father was a
cheater throughout their

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marriage. Was galena like the
straw that broke the camel's

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back for their marriage? Or was
she after they had

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already split up? Yeah, she was.
She was the straw that broke the

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camel's back.

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Interesting, her saying she
would never do what Masha did,

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but yet she did.

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We call that living in the land
of delusion. And I love Galina.

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She lives in the land of
delusion a lot, if you haven't

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noticed, yeah. Oh, I have, I
have.

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We have some questions about
her. We'll get to in a minute.

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But while we're on the topic of
moms, we love Tessa.

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Yes, Tessa is amazing,

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a gem. I think one of our
cocktails said she's a national

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treasure. Has she gone on to
Nashville to record her songs

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yet?

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Yes, she has. So I'm not sure if
that makes Season Two. Candidly,

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I haven't watched all the
episodes season two, so now I'm

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going to be watching with the
viewers as each episode airs. I

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haven't seen the rest of them,
but yeah, she did go down to

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Nashville. She finished up her
album. So interested to see when

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that releases and if it makes
part of season two. Fingers

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crossed. It does. That's

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amazing. I hope she has success
with that. She is such a sweet

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woman, and it seems she's been
in your lives since you guys

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were babies, or even before you
were

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born. Yes, yeah. If there's
anyone that we consider a second

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mom, it's Tessa, and we can even
say that to my mom, because my

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mom loves Tessa to death too. So
Tessa's been around the farm

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since I was nine years old. So
almost as long as I can remember

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she's been around. She started
off as our she would come over

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and cook for like, whenever we
have a bunch of customers from

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our other businesses up to the
farm to hang out. She would cook

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all the dinners and entertain
and sing and just do everything.

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And since then, she's
transitioned into more of like,

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working in the business. She
started fueling up all the guys

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in the tractors. We called her
fuel gal, and now she works at

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the meat facility as the retail
like, the frontline worker for

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all the new customers coming in.
So it's pretty neat.

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She's amazing. She is, she is
truly and her energy, just like,

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radiates through the screen.
That

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is her 24/7 like, there's a
couple people that are like, Oh,

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that accent is so fake. Or,
like, the energy's fake. That's

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Tessa at five in the morning or
at midnight, after all day of

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work like that is who she is.
And

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you listen your job, your
company, it's so big that you

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can see how stressful that would
be. And to have this positive

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energy around you all the time,
it must be amazing.

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It's it's good. We call her, you
know, she wears a lot of hats

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around the farm, but one of
which is, we call her our full

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time psychiatrist or full time
therapist, because when the guys

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are working long hours out in
the fields and they're exhausted

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and they've been running seven
days a week for 12 to 14 hour

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days, Tessa will come out there
as a ball of energy while she's

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filling up their tractors, you
know, help them talk about life,

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what stresses they're facing,
like they all leave in a better

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mood after talking to Tessa.
She's kind of like your guys'

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Chief of Staff. Yes, very much.
So we just

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promoted her. That's right.

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So this season, actually the
most recent episode we saw that

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only you, Galina, and your mom
were aware of your dad's legal

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troubles, so I saw in your face
the panic, and then you shut

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your door. And of course, at
this point, you've been on

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reality TV long enough to know,
like, Okay, we're gonna have to

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address this in confessionals
now. And I guess you kind of we

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can blame galena for this,
right?

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Yeah, yeah, that was something,
you know, obviously us three

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knew about it. I didn't know
whether to bring it up or not.

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You know, that was one of those
things where I was struggling to

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really think, you know, we said
we were going to showcase

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everything on reality TV, and
for the most part, we had up to

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that point aside from that
situation, and whenever Galina

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brought it out to light, I was
like, you know, there's no

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putting that can of worms back
in. I guess we're going to talk

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about

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it now, yeah, and I guess it's
probably, listen, unfortunately,

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a blog like myself would have
picked it out like it was gonna

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get picked

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up. It's public knowledge. Yeah.
I mean, it was, it was gonna get

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get out there.

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And I think I have to tell you
what we're loving, and what

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viewers are loving is that you
guys really are authentic. If it

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would have gotten picked up
after the season wrapped and it

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wasn't addressed, I think it
would have been bad for the

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success of the show, because we
would all say, like, well, I

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guess it's not so authentic.

433
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:30,860
Yeah. In hindsight, I'm actually
happy that it got picked up

434
00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:34,220
during the show, because it also
allows us to showcase like, I

435
00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:37,160
feel like if it would have
gotten brought up in blogs post

436
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,160
airing the show, people wouldn't
think that we were taking it as

437
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,580
serious as we are. They'd have
been like, they just filmed the

438
00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:45,220
show, and then they have this
investigation going on, like

439
00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:47,560
they're they must think they're
bigger than the law or, you

440
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,540
know, they like, they don't even
care about it. No, this

441
00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:52,120
situation has kept us up for,
you know, a year and a half now,

442
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,580
every single night, it's all we
can think about. And so now we

443
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,920
get to showcase that through
these episodes. You get to see

444
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320
the real stress and pressure
we're facing. So I think it does

445
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,460
a good job of. Of showing like,
yeah, we're we're pretty humble

446
00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:05,160
about this, because it's a life
altering situation.

447
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:13,440
What was your brother's reaction
to you knowing and not sharing

448
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,440
with them? Is that, do they kind
of expect that, as the eldest

449
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,020
brother, that you will
oftentimes protect them from

450
00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:22,280
things? And this was another
situation like that. Were they

451
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,740
upset with you? Were they just
shocked? And yeah,

452
00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:28,040
they weren't upset at all. And
you'll get to see it as it plays

453
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,160
out, and me telling the boys
here in future episodes. But it

454
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,460
was something I've done this my
entire life. I you know, when I

455
00:25:34,460 --> 00:25:37,580
was 18 years old, essentially
right out of high school, my dad

456
00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:39,920
kind of threw me into the
business and said, Here you go.

457
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:44,080
And I'm very blessed, on one
hand, because not many 18 year

458
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,140
olds, very, very few, in fact,
get the opportunity to take on a

459
00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:49,840
very integral role at a large
company. But on the other hand,

460
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,300
you want to talk about being
thrown into the fire and having

461
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,940
to figure it out. It puts a lot
of stress and pressure on you,

462
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,520
and that was something I wanted
to keep from the boys. I didn't

463
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,180
want it to affect their
relationships. I think it's been

464
00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:03,060
a source that is really, you
know, I'm sitting here 30 years

465
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:05,880
old, still single to this day,
have always had some issues with

466
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,220
my relationships. A lot of
that's self induced, and I'll

467
00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:10,860
admit that, but a lot of it is
because there is so much stress

468
00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:13,260
and pressure on me from working
in the business and knowing all

469
00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:16,860
of these high importance
situations. And so I wanted to

470
00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:19,560
keep that off their backs. And
so that's what I tried to do

471
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,400
with this situation. And then
when they found out, I think for

472
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,640
them, it made a lot of sense,
because I'd been on edge for

473
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,880
months. Little situations were
setting me off. I was freaking

474
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,640
out a lot more. Like, you could
just see the stress in my eyes,

475
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:34,400
and I could see that they were
wondering, like, why is this

476
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800
little situation? Like, why is
he freaking out about this

477
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,260
little ordeal? And I'm like,
It's not the little ordeal. It's

478
00:26:39,260 --> 00:26:41,860
knowing what we have going on in
the background on top of this

479
00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:44,680
little situation that just came
up. And so for them, it was like

480
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,460
an aha moment, like, Oh, this is
why Steven's been on edge over

481
00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:49,720
the last six to eight months.

482
00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:53,440
And how is your dad doing these
days? He's good.

483
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,920
That man is the most positive,
optimistic person I have ever

484
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,600
met in my entire life. If there
was anyone that could deal with

485
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,140
a situation like this and still
find ways to make lemonade out

486
00:27:04,140 --> 00:27:07,380
of it. It would be my dad. So
he's looking at it saying, you

487
00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:09,840
know, we've got so much good
happening in our lives. We've

488
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,480
got the two new grandbabies
like, there's so many good

489
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,300
things happening right now.
Let's focus on that. Let's not

490
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:18,180
focus on on this. You know, this
cloud that's hanging over us

491
00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:20,600
right now. We can't do anything
about it right now. Anyways,

492
00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:23,300
we're just gonna have to play
the the cards were dealt

493
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:23,960
essentially,

494
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,240
well, succession and who, whose
role is, what is, has been a big

495
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,060
theme on the show. So how is the
situation affecting everything?

496
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,480
Are you guys? Has it made you
split up the workload a little

497
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,760
differently because you have the
car washes, the farm, the meat

498
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,600
company.

499
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,260
Yeah, we have 300 rental homes
in Kansas City. We have a home

500
00:27:47,260 --> 00:27:50,080
building business like, we've
got seven or eight big

501
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,360
companies, and a lot of those
aren't showcased in the show,

502
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:54,700
just because it'd be mass
confusion trying to showcase

503
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,340
everything. But yes, so you'll
get to see through the rest of

504
00:27:57,340 --> 00:28:00,360
season two. Essentially, going
into season two, it was like,

505
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,540
okay, Steven's gonna run
everything very quickly.

506
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Realized that was not gonna be
realistic, and so we start

507
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,200
working together as brothers to
take on the roles that we feel

508
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,140
like we're strongest at. And we
all fall into our little niches

509
00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:15,900
of the business where we think
we have the best capabilities.

510
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:17,940
And you'll get to see that
through the rest of season two.

511
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:19,020
Love it

512
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,480
now we got, you know, we have to
touch on the Galena and Masha of

513
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,920
it all. Oh, yeah, I take it. You
boys are used to your father

514
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,360
doing these sort of things, but
this just is downright insane.

515
00:28:33,260 --> 00:28:37,100
Yeah, it's wild. Because Galina
is the, is she the CFO of your

516
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:37,640
company?

517
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Yeah, she's the CFO, and she's a
part owner in the car washes and

518
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,540
a couple of the other
businesses. And so when

519
00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:47,860
you first realize things with
galena are starting to unravel.

520
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,060
Was there a moment or a red flag
where you were like, how are we

521
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120
going to contain this from
affecting our business?

522
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,180
Well, you can see it as you
know, you see it in the first

523
00:28:58,180 --> 00:29:02,220
three episodes, like, it's like
Galina is spiraling down, and

524
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:05,100
you just gotta watch the rest of
season two, because I would like

525
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,160
to say this is the end of the
Galena crash outs nowhere near

526
00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:12,180
So, yeah, season two was a rough
time for galena. And I see so

527
00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:14,940
many people, and I understand it
again from their perspective.

528
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:17,580
They're like, you gotta get rid
of Galena. Like Galina was the

529
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:19,740
one that turned your dad in. You
know, she was the one that was

530
00:29:19,740 --> 00:29:24,020
sending information to the FBI
No. Galina is the hardest worker

531
00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:30,320
I've ever met in my entire life.
I met her in 2016 2017 whenever

532
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,380
she started coming in as an
outside consultant into our

533
00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:37,040
businesses. Now, I did not know
my dad was sleeping with her, so

534
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,800
I like formed this friendship
with Galina. You know, seeing

535
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,700
how hard she worked. Seen all of
this happen. Didn't know that

536
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:46,420
she was sleeping with my dad
until like, 2020 or 2021 so by

537
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:48,880
then, I already have this, like,
established relationship. She's

538
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,000
already a part owner in the
business. It was like, Okay, on

539
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,420
one hand, you know, this woman
just literally, uh, was the

540
00:29:55,420 --> 00:29:58,300
straw that broke the camel's
back of my parents marriage. But

541
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:01,200
on the other like, I know she's
a good. Person I know for the

542
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,740
most part. She's a great person.
She does extremely valuable work

543
00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:07,200
for us, and I've worked with her
day in and day out for three or

544
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,380
four years now, and she's just
done such a crazy amount of

545
00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:13,560
work. She's so loyal to us boys
would do anything in the world

546
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:20,280
for us boys that I'm saying,
Okay, from 2016 to 2023 Galina

547
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,120
has been the most important
person in our companies, and

548
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,780
then the last two years, she's
had a very, very bad spiral due

549
00:30:26,780 --> 00:30:30,800
to my dad's relationship
struggles and bringing in Masha.

550
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,700
And I understand why she would
crash out a little bit, not to

551
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:37,460
the extent that she has and is
going to crash out, but I do

552
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:38,960
understand a little bit of the
crash

553
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,020
out. Did you guys who knew about
Masha first? You and the boys,

554
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,060
or Galina? Um,

555
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,600
I think us boys knew about it
like we started as boys. We

556
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,180
would gossip a little bit
whenever it was just us, we're

557
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:55,240
like, Hey, we've been seeing
Masha at the farm a lot lately.

558
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,600
This is kind of weird, because
it used to be Masha Galina that

559
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,260
would come up to the farm
together with dad. Now it's just

560
00:31:01,260 --> 00:31:04,440
Masha coming up here. Like, is
there something going on here?

561
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,960
And we also, we know my dad, so
we're like, okay, yeah,

562
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,520
something seems a little fishy
here.

563
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,340
So during the crash out periods
with Galena, did it make you

564
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:17,880
question whether mixing family
business with the love interest

565
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,320
was a good call on your dad's
part?

566
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,040
Yeah, we've questioned. We've
known that. We've known the

567
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,320
answer to that. We don't
question it. We know it's a bad

568
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,540
idea. And have known he's

569
00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:29,900
the boss. So you guys are just
like, here, we kind of have to

570
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,460
buckle in and just deal with it.

571
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:33,920
Yeah. I mean, what are you gonna
say? Like, I mean, there's so

572
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,500
many people that are like, the
boys need to take over and kick

573
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:40,660
the dad out. You can't do that.
So, I mean, you kind of have to,

574
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,020
you know, we've had some very,
very blunt conversations with my

575
00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:46,780
dad, but at the end of the day,
like he's gonna make his own

576
00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:50,380
decisions, and we just kind of
have to roll with the punches.

577
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,400
Just as an outsider, I have to
imagine that Galina is

578
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,640
brilliant, because she was able
to convince your father that she

579
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,600
should own 10% of his company.
So yeah, that he, like, signed

580
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,880
that off and then realized,

581
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,880
and we signed I signed off on
that too. Like that was me

582
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120
saying, yeah, she the work she
provides is worth 10%

583
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,440
and you felt like you had to
give her that rather than lose

584
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,740
her as an employee. Obviously,
that's what you guys were faced

585
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:22,340
with. Nobody gives up a
percentage of an established

586
00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:27,440
company otherwise, right,
correct. So I just have to say,

587
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,160
as a viewer, it is clear as day,
and I know we said she lives in

588
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,360
delusion, but your father
basically says to everybody he

589
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,260
meets like I was married for
many years, that didn't work

590
00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:42,820
out, so nothing's ever going to
work out. And I am single, and

591
00:32:42,820 --> 00:32:46,240
if I, if I hook up with somebody
continuously, that's fine, but

592
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,060
I'm not exclusive with anybody,
and I won't be. I mean, he says

593
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:49,300
it

594
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,800
it right or wrong. Like the man
is honest whenever it comes to

595
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,860
that, you know, he, he's very
upfront about that. You can

596
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:59,860
judge him personally on, you
know, his viewpoints on that,

597
00:32:59,860 --> 00:33:03,240
but at least he's honest, and
there is no denying like if you

598
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,240
ask anyone that knows my dad or
anyone that knows that

599
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,120
situation, they will tell you
every single time we are around

600
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,440
my dad, he is very upfront about
this same thing. I was married

601
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,360
for 25 or 28 years. I will never
do that again. I am not going to

602
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,020
be exclusive with anyone. I'm
going to enjoy the rest of my

603
00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:24,140
life with my pug gunner and
myself. That's what he says, and

604
00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:24,620
that still

605
00:33:24,620 --> 00:33:29,540
applies to Masha. Yes, because
Masha is young, I'm in my head

606
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:32,120
going, this woman could pop out
a child.

607
00:33:32,660 --> 00:33:35,660
You got to watch the rest of
season two, because I hope they

608
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:38,060
put this in again. I haven't
watched it. There was some very

609
00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:41,380
interesting conversations being
had during season two about that

610
00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:42,940
exact thing. Oh, my,

611
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480
cool. Yeah. So of course, we
don't want to get into spoiler

612
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,840
territory, but is Galina still
working for the company?

613
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Yeah, yeah, she and you'll see
it on her social media. So

614
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,000
there's nothing to really hide.
Galina is still around, but it

615
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000
was rough. They're like, filming
Season Two. Like those

616
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,540
conversations where I'm like,
Galina, like, I have defended

617
00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:03,900
you almost to the death of me,
to everyone, including my

618
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,720
younger brothers, like I can't
keep doing this if you keep

619
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,040
crashing out this bad.

620
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:12,480
And it's not only to your
Father, because we see that the

621
00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:17,040
tornado that ran through the
lodge just so happened to happen

622
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,680
during Cole and Casey gender
reveal, gender reveal. And

623
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,760
obviously Galina knew that was
taking place. I'm sure she's not

624
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,640
welcome if your mom's there. So
she probably was also pissed,

625
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,520
which she can't say that your
mom was filming this season,

626
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:34,880
because season one, she was at
all these events, and you and

627
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160
your brother would say it like
she's not normally at these

628
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,660
events, like my mom's normally
here. So the viewer can surmise

629
00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:43,840
from that, okay? Because Mom's
not filming. Galina gets to go

630
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,960
to these family events, and so
she's mad. Your father's away

631
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,440
with Masha. You guys are all
together celebrating the gender

632
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,100
reveal. She's left out. So what
does she do? Let the chickens

633
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,100
out and mess up your dad's
house. You

634
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,960
are spot on with that line of
thinking.

635
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920
Do you think. Would have done it
if the cameras hadn't been

636
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,060
rolling. Done

637
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:06,180
that to the lodge? Yeah? Oh,
absolutely. That was like the

638
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:09,840
fourth or fifth time. Yes, this
is, yeah, that's what's we talk

639
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,960
about it in colonized podcast,
we say it's weird that it's

640
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,080
become normal to us, because
it's not a normal situation, but

641
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,840
we've become desensitized to it
because that's like the fourth

642
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,380
or fifth time we've had to go
over there and clean up.

643
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,000
It's really wild and wild that
you're still able to work with

644
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,600
her, because I can't imagine, I
mean, I can imagine how

645
00:35:29,660 --> 00:35:33,080
conflicted and like betrayed to
a certain extent, you've

646
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,940
probably felt by her, because
still seeing damage to things on

647
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:41,320
your it might not be to your
hats specifically, but it still

648
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,720
feels, I would imagine, feels
really personal.

649
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:47,140
It's hard, because I love
galena. Obviously, I love my

650
00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:50,680
dad, like more than anything.
And from an outside perspective,

651
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,460
looking in, you're like, Okay,
these both these people, we love

652
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:57,580
to death. They're both family to
us. But my goodness, they are

653
00:35:57,580 --> 00:36:01,980
such a train wreck in any
capacity, personally, like, it

654
00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:05,220
is so hard, like you said, it's
conflicting, because you know

655
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:07,500
you love the person.
Professionally, they're great,

656
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:10,560
and then personally, they are
just like this, tornado,

657
00:36:10,620 --> 00:36:14,160
yeah, and Galina must be upset
that your father is not able to

658
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,100
be at the company as much,
because now she really doesn't

659
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,520
get to see him, because it does,
it does put her on an obsession,

660
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:25,640
right? Because it is not a
mutual relationship. And like as

661
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,520
a woman, I think that's the
hardest thing for me to wrap my

662
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,880
head around, because we've seen
other reality shows and just

663
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,200
real life situations where the
guy is not faithful, but like

664
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,380
lies and says he is, and all
these kind of things. But in

665
00:36:39,380 --> 00:36:42,100
this case, like he's flirting
with these girls. The last

666
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,640
episode, she's standing next to
him in the bar, and a couple of

667
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,820
you guys were on FaceTime with
the other young girlfriend,

668
00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:49,840
Kylie, or whatever her name

669
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,160
was, yep, yep, yeah. I mean,
that's what's crazy is. Now I

670
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,340
will say there's a couple things
that my dad's I think Galina

671
00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:02,340
just takes little bitty
statements that my dad says and

672
00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:05,880
runs with them to the highest
degree. So they're in season

673
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,160
one. There's a scene where my
dad and Galina are sitting on

674
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,640
the dock at our lake, and my
dad's like, Galena, I will never

675
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,160
get married again, but if I did,
it would be to you. So like, she

676
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,840
takes that and says, Okay. Like,
you know that that's almost like

677
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,960
her thinking he's going to be
exclusive to me, right? And I

678
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,240
think that's what she's like,
holding on to. Maybe

679
00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:35,360
it seems so while you guys are
filming as a family, because

680
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,360
everyone's experiencing this
differently with all you know,

681
00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:41,380
with your brother, each of your
brothers is having, has their

682
00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:44,200
own life, and everything that's
going on as well. Was there a

683
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,100
moment where you guys, you or
any of your brothers, felt this

684
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:52,000
is going way too far? We
definitely should not be filming

685
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,420
this.

686
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,360
Yeah, there's, there's several
situations coming up. Like I

687
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,820
was, I was telling a couple
different people on Instagram

688
00:37:57,820 --> 00:37:59,440
this the other day, they're
talking about the gleana

689
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,900
situation and just kind of
everything that's happening on

690
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,020
season two. And I'm like, Yeah,
two. And I'm like, yeah, it gets

691
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,840
even better or worse, depending
on how you view it from here on

692
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,680
out for the rest of season two.
So yeah, the rest of the season

693
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080
has situations where that
exactly happens, where in the

694
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,780
back of my mind, as the cameras
are rolling and all this is

695
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:17,760
going down, I'm like, Man, I
know we said we were going to

696
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,040
put everything out there for the
viewers to see, but I don't know

697
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,660
if this was a smart idea or not.

698
00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:26,900
Yeah, I just, I'm trying to wrap
my head around so many different

699
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:31,220
personalities. Is there anything
during those moments? Is there

700
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:33,920
anything that has happened, and
I think we know the answer to

701
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,640
this, but that has even
surprised you or changed your

702
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,800
perspective on something? Yeah,

703
00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:45,100
between my dad, Galena, my
brother, Cole, even some callous

704
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:48,580
situations here later on in the
season, where I just thought

705
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:51,520
that, you know, there'd be a
little bit held back being on

706
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,300
camera. And, no, they just went
all the way out there and either

707
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:58,840
said things or did things on
camera that I was saying they're

708
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,800
going, I cannot believe they're
actually doing this right now.

709
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
But all right, that's what makes
the show

710
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,260
good, because these people are
all too erratic. Like, I feel

711
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:12,660
like you are a person who could
maybe self produce and keep it

712
00:39:12,660 --> 00:39:15,960
calm or keep things a certain
way, but then when you have

713
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Galina acting nuts, and you have
your father, I mean, he's not to

714
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,020
be controlled, no. And so you
like, I could see you and Jesse

715
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,820
sticking to a script, but it's
impossible with Cole Galina,

716
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:32,060
your dad, and then, of course,
some of the other people, you

717
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:34,940
know what I'm saying, so that's
what makes it so authentic and

718
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:38,060
ultimately a good show, right,
that we want to watch, that you

719
00:39:38,060 --> 00:39:39,920
may not love while you're
filming

720
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:44,020
it. I would agree 100% with
that. I think in my head, like

721
00:39:44,020 --> 00:39:46,600
you said, I'm almost, like, I
hate to say it, but I do this in

722
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,600
real life too. Like, even when
cameras are off, like I'm always

723
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,320
almost self producing meetings,
or like, I try to control

724
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,260
situations narratives, the way
things are going. And then you

725
00:39:56,260 --> 00:39:59,920
have these loose cannons in my
dad, Galena, calla and Cole and.

726
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
In my head, I'm like, That's
horrible. This is terrible. But

727
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
from someone watching the show,
they're like, this is awesome

728
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,620
that they're letting this out
there, like, it's so, like,

729
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,280
unpredictable, and so I guess
that's the word is, like, I like

730
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,200
to have everything almost
predicted. They're so

731
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,140
unpredictable, but it makes for
great television. It would be

732
00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:18,720
horrible if it was just Jesse
and I, because everything would

733
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:19,920
be predictable, essentially,

734
00:40:20,340 --> 00:40:22,880
right? Like the meat delivery
that was two and a half hours

735
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000
late would have never happened
if it were you and Jesse and

736
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,560
employees because, but because
Galina is a trusted person and

737
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,680
decided to go off the rails that
day. And Is everything okay with

738
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,440
that deal? By the way, I was
very concerned, or yes,

739
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,800
yeah, yeah, you'll see it as it
plays out in season two, but

740
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,600
yeah, everything ends up working
out. But yeah, that was a again,

741
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,640
I am like, I am the most
punctual, like, and I'm not

742
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,100
trying to pat myself on the back
here. It's like something I have

743
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:54,760
held my life to is like being on
time, being prepared for every

744
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,220
single situation. So if I was
the one that was handling the

745
00:40:57,220 --> 00:40:59,140
ETA on what time we were
supposed to get there for the

746
00:40:59,140 --> 00:41:01,660
meat delivery, I'd have been
there 20 minutes early, sitting

747
00:41:01,660 --> 00:41:03,600
in the parking lot. Had
everything lot. Had everything

748
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,420
organized, ready to go, but I
tasked Galina with that, and she

749
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:09,480
went dark for two days. Yeah, it
was, it was great, as

750
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,920
we think about as you look back
so far on your experience

751
00:41:13,980 --> 00:41:18,240
filming this show, what is your
rose so like, what is the high

752
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,780
point? And then what's your
Thor? And what's the part that,

753
00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:23,780
what do you love? What do you
not love as part of this

754
00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:24,560
experience,

755
00:41:25,580 --> 00:41:28,220
as far as, like, specifics in
season two, like, what was the

756
00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:29,060
high point of the season?

757
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,180
Just your experience so far
being on reality television? Oh

758
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:32,600
yeah.

759
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:37,100
So by far, the coolest part of
being on reality TV is we're

760
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:41,320
getting these, like, 1015, 20
years from now. Whenever Blair

761
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,860
is 10 or 15 years old, we get to
go back and watch Casey and Cole

762
00:41:44,860 --> 00:41:47,200
pregnant. All of us freaking
out, saying, man, what's it

763
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,480
gonna be like to have a baby in
the family? We get to watch

764
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,500
Jesse and Ali's wedding like all
professionally documented in a

765
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:56,800
reality TV like no one gets
that. So we get to go back and

766
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,080
have these memories for the rest
of our lives that we can re

767
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,260
watch, which is really, really
cool. And then, on the other

768
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:03,660
hand, we get to have some of
these memories that we get to go

769
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:06,480
back and watch that is not very,
very cool, like calla and I's

770
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,640
breakup in some of these
situations that are very

771
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,400
stressful. I think when we're on
down the line, we'll get to look

772
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,520
back at like, you know, this FBI
investigation, and say, Man,

773
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:17,160
like we made it through that
really hard time. This makes us

774
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,180
appreciate life now, but right
thinking of it right now, it

775
00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:23,060
sucks having all that filmed and
put out there for everyone to

776
00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:26,660
comment and write headlines
about and, you know, just just

777
00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:29,300
try to speculate over what
actually happened when they

778
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:29,960
don't actually

779
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:36,020
know. And that is just one of
the downfalls of being on

780
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:36,560
reality,

781
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,300
obviously. But you sign up, you
sign up for it. Though

782
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,940
that's what I always say
whenever we gossip on here, I'm

783
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:45,280
like, Hey, listen, they signed
up for it. We signed up for it.

784
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,400
Yeah. Thank you so much, Steven.
It was wonderful chatting with

785
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,660
you. We love the show. Very
excited to see all the crashing

786
00:42:52,660 --> 00:42:56,680
out that happen. We're rooting
for you. Everyone you can find

787
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,800
Steven at Steven McBee on
Instagram and the McBee dynasty

788
00:43:01,860 --> 00:43:03,840
on Mondays on Bravo, absolutely.

789
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,700
Thank you guys so much for
having me. Enjoyed

790
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,860
it. Take care. Thank you. Bye.

791
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,460
What's up? Cocktail ers, hope
you enjoyed the interview with

792
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,540
Steve McBee of the McBee
dynasty. He was so adorable in

793
00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:22,460
person. Amanda, he is exactly

794
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:26,960
like on over our screens, you
know, Zoom like it's not zoom

795
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,720
that we use, but whatever
similar to it, he's exactly the

796
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:34,700
same as he is on camera, just
very engaging. And he definitely

797
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:38,540
has, like, this little kind of
sweet side to him, and very

798
00:43:38,540 --> 00:43:42,160
honest. I couldn't believe he
just answered everything we

799
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,620
asked him with no hesitation.

800
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,620
And you know what I realized
midway through the interview, as

801
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:50,980
you guys know, Amanda and I
don't, we don't interview a ton

802
00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:54,520
of people, because a lot of
stars will say we can't talk

803
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,800
about this. We can't But and so
by the time you get them on,

804
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,960
it's like, All right, great, we
could talk about your shoe line.

805
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,680
And so it just becomes something
that isn't all that interesting

806
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,940
and won't be that interesting
for you guys. I feel we never

807
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:09,060
asked him, and he never, at any
point was like, Oh, by the way,

808
00:44:09,060 --> 00:44:10,080
this is off limits.

809
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,760
No, yeah, he and he, he took
everything in stride, and I

810
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,680
think it was helpful that he
gave some context about as we

811
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:26,660
know they have to edit 1000s of
hours of tape down to 12, right?

812
00:44:26,660 --> 00:44:29,600
And so not everything gets
shown. And so for him, to give

813
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,120
us a little bit of context
around some of the things that

814
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,180
were happening, I thought was
fantastic. So hope you guys

815
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:35,840
enjoyed that.

816
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,500
Amanda, what did cocktails know?
Cocktails

817
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:45,580
always know? Btw, of course,
cocktails knew that Brock had an

818
00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:52,240
affair. We posted it in cocktail
party last June, we received

819
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,020
intel that Sheena had written a
book, and in the book, she wrote

820
00:44:56,020 --> 00:44:59,920
about the affair that Brock had
while she was pregnant with.

821
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,820
Summer moon, and that it was
going into this upcoming book.

822
00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:09,780
So as you I just mentioned, it
was we posted in cocktail party,

823
00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:14,040
which is our members only
section, and a couple of months

824
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,360
ago, a totally different
cocktail, or that we got tea

825
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,340
from, got an early copy of
Sheena's book, and there's a

826
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:26,360
whole and says there's a whole
section that's redacted. So we

827
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,020
reposted the affair blind, and
we speculated that chapter was

828
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:34,460
most likely about the affair.
And sure enough, this week,

829
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,380
Sheena came out with this news,
did an excerpt in glamor

830
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:44,380
magazine where she spoke about
the affair. And that redacted

831
00:45:44,380 --> 00:45:48,400
section was the section of the
book that she talks about the

832
00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:50,260
affair in that pre order copy.

833
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,520
And Sheena didn't stop at the
glamor magazine. She is also on

834
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,620
the cover of Us Weekly people I
don't know she's on the cover.

835
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:05,940
She is dressed like a librarian,
looking very stern, she is on a

836
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:10,920
complete fresh junket about
Brock's affair that nobody knew

837
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,540
about. So what people want to
know and what what Amanda and I

838
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:18,780
are getting on Discord and in
the DMS is, why wasn't this

839
00:46:18,780 --> 00:46:23,600
discussed on the last season of
Vanderpump when you know her and

840
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:30,560
La whole thing was how people
not showing their real life,

841
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,060
mainly Ariana, and Ariana not
filming with Sandoval, and her

842
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:39,320
not discussing it, you know his
affair in depth, and not doing a

843
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,600
Sit down with him, was going to
have their show canceled, and

844
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,780
this is how they feed their
families and pay their mortgages

845
00:46:46,780 --> 00:46:49,480
on their two homes, because they
both need two homes. And so

846
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,080
where was Sheena with the
storyline? I need to get your

847
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,640
opinion on this. Amanda,

848
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:02,820
okay, I feel like it does make a
lot make a little bit more sense

849
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,860
now, I think specifically,
Sheena's anxiety taking front

850
00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:10,500
and center during that season
where she wouldn't leave summer

851
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:16,320
and just had this high anxiety.
And we know that. We know from

852
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:22,400
Sheena in one version that she
didn't find out until two weeks

853
00:47:22,460 --> 00:47:27,320
after scandoval hit, which would
have been March of so that would

854
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,640
have been so March of 23 I
think, is when scandoval

855
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,300
happened. So then she would have
found out a couple weeks after

856
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:40,100
that, when summer was around
two, I am sure a big part of her

857
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:44,140
saw the absolute chaos that
scandoval caused and the

858
00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:49,660
vilification rightfully so of
Tom Sandoval, and didn't want

859
00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:53,140
that for Brock, because I think
she wanted to keep her marriage.

860
00:47:53,140 --> 00:47:56,980
So a big part of me wonders,
though, if they had come clean

861
00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:59,860
on the show, would there have
been another season of

862
00:47:59,860 --> 00:48:02,640
Vanderpump Rules? And I'm sure
Sheena is wondering that too.

863
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,560
If Sheena made the decision not
to share it, I have to tell you

864
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:15,180
the truth. I can respect that.
We can all sit here and say you

865
00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:17,220
should show your real life.
That's what we were just

866
00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:21,380
applauding Steve McBee and his
brothers and father for doing

867
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:25,460
but as a real person, this is
her real life. This is her

868
00:48:25,460 --> 00:48:29,060
marriage. She has a child with
this man. She wanted to make her

869
00:48:29,060 --> 00:48:33,320
marriage work. I can completely
appreciate her decision,

870
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:39,980
however, to then turn around and
in June of 2024, because we know

871
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,020
that's when she was writing the
book, and when she wrote that

872
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,820
section of the book, we were
contacted by a source. So last

873
00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:54,340
June, she decided, I'm gonna out
this affair. Was she looking to

874
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:58,000
cash in late on her Ariana
moment? Because at that point

875
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,680
she knew the show was canceled.
Was she like, well, since the

876
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,280
show's canceled, I gotta sell
books. I have to get on the

877
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,460
valley full time. We all know
the Dancing with the Stars

878
00:49:08,460 --> 00:49:12,780
desires, whatever it was, she
made a decision in June of 2024

879
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,100
to monetize Brock's affair.
Could it be that, originally,

880
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,680
she wasn't ever gonna say
anything, and then when

881
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,900
Vanderpump got canceled, and she
wasn't as booked, and she wasn't

882
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:28,040
as busy, and the checks weren't
coming in, she got nervous and

883
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,000
felt like, well, you know what,
I have this I could always rely

884
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,780
on this affair and bring it out.
I mean, it's certainly possible,

885
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,420
right? And I think that's a good
theory, and we have to remember,

886
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:45,940
there is a child involved in
that, so her decision making

887
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:51,100
process, by nature, should
happen. And I think it was

888
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:56,740
different than an Ariana kind of
situation. I think time does

889
00:49:56,740 --> 00:50:02,160
heal wounds, and so maybe at the
time. Time it was too fresh to

890
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,420
share. So the original source
who told us about this whole

891
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,060
situation, the affair that
Sheena was writing about it,

892
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,400
that source gave us some new
Intel. So now it says, Now that

893
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,760
Sheena came out and confirmed
the affair, there are some

894
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,100
things that are not accurate.
Brock did not confess to her

895
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:26,000
about the affair. She checked
his phone and found out the

896
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,540
affair was over at that point,
but she found evidence in his

897
00:50:29,540 --> 00:50:34,160
phone. A friend also told her.
The source says I'm not sure

898
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,980
which came first, the friend
telling her and her searching

899
00:50:36,980 --> 00:50:40,300
his phone, or her finding
evidence of the affair and

900
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:44,620
asking the friend either way he
did not confess until confronted

901
00:50:44,620 --> 00:50:48,340
with the evidence, which has to
say something, yes. Is it

902
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:52,420
possible? You said two weeks
after scandoval, if you guys

903
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:56,620
remember after scandoval, there
came out a rumor which none of

904
00:50:56,620 --> 00:51:00,480
us believed, that Brock had an
affair with Lala. Do you think

905
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,780
that Sheena, and she even said,
when she heard it, she thought,

906
00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:07,200
Oh, my God, could Brock do it to
me? Do you think that Sheena a

907
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,740
few days after scandoval, or two
weeks after, when Brock was

908
00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:13,440
sleeping, picked his phone up
and went through to see him? Was

909
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,200
like, Oh my freaking god, he did
have an affair on me, like it

910
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,200
could have literally happened
because of scandoval. Well,

911
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,620
yeah, because that's so we've
heard. Because if you guys will

912
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:25,880
remember when we posted about
this originally in June, that

913
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,440
was the story is that Sheena
found out and confronted Brock.

914
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:36,140
Sheena's story now is that he
came to her on his own and that

915
00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:40,840
she didn't know, which I'm
imagining as they decided as a

916
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,680
couple, like, Okay, we're gonna
share this. Let's try to put

917
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,700
Brock in as good of a light as
possible. So let's change the

918
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:53,080
story a little bit to be that he
came to me with this

919
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,940
information. Yeah,

920
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:01,080
certainly she wanted to package
it. Listen, she wants to

921
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,860
maintain her marriage, but this
is how she makes money, and she

922
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:08,820
doesn't have much else going on
right now, right? That's really,

923
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:12,960
I mean, it's, you know. And so
here's my next question. A lot

924
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,040
of people have said, like, when
we posted it, bullshit. Don't

925
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,180
believe he cheated. Is there any
part of you that thinks that

926
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:23,300
Sheena made this up to sell
books or get attention and go on

927
00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:24,320
this PR junket.

928
00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:29,300
I believed it happened until the
story about how she found out

929
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:34,340
started to change, and that has
definitely made me wonder, would

930
00:52:34,340 --> 00:52:37,280
Sheena and Brock be capable of
making up a story about him

931
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,500
cheating to sell more books and
get more eyes on them?

932
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:46,300
Absolutely, I just don't think,
I think he did cheat. I don't

933
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:49,780
think they would put that out
there, because they do. They

934
00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:54,280
have a daughter, and that's
going to be out there for life.

935
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:59,320
So do I believe that she changed
some of the details around it?

936
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,240
Yes, do I believe that she made
the whole thing up? No, yeah,

937
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:03,540
what do

938
00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:07,620
you think? I don't believe she
completely made it up. I don't

939
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:11,160
see why anybody would. And
again, we could be naive. I

940
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,220
don't believe it. And like for
him to agree to it like it's

941
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,420
talk about taking one for the
team. He isn't beloved to begin.

942
00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:21,560
So yeah, I don't, I don't
believe. I think there's truth

943
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,060
to it now it may, it may not
have been as big as, as big an

944
00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:29,060
affair. It may have been a one
time thing, like it could be,

945
00:53:29,060 --> 00:53:32,720
she could be adding to it. And
certainly we know that he didn't

946
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:36,320
confess, like, I never really
understood that part. Yeah, no,

947
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,080
I think he I think something
definitely went down. Yeah,

948
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,000
yeah. I think so too. So on the
valley this week, Sheena, my B

949
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:48,640
EC is on and talking to Janet
and Michelle, and says that

950
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,120
Kristen latches on to the
popular girl. In my opinion,

951
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,360
Kristen is the popular girl. I
mean, what do you think about

952
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,140
that? It made me like, I
literally paused it and wrote

953
00:53:59,140 --> 00:54:05,460
down like, must discuss on pod
Sheena, this bash session with

954
00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:10,620
Janet against Kristen. I'm gonna
tell you my opinion, yes. Well,

955
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:13,620
first of all, yes, Kristen is
the popular girl. She should be

956
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,220
real careful. And I'm talking
about Sheena, yeah, picking

957
00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:21,320
Janet is a choice, because, my
opinion, Janet is not a great

958
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,920
reality star. I know you and I
disagree. You feel she stirs the

959
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,980
pot. I know you're probably
gonna come back at me for that,

960
00:54:27,980 --> 00:54:32,960
but I feel like people don't
really like her, and I'm not

961
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,720
saying she's definitely gonna
get cut next season, especially

962
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:38,960
with the confirmation which
cocktail ers again, knew that

963
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,280
Jax is out. We will discuss
that, but I do think that she'll

964
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,040
fade away. And what I mean by
that is that I think they'll

965
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,120
have better options for the
valley. My opinion, I think that

966
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,780
Janet is a person who will
eventually alienate everybody,

967
00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:57,340
never really have an interesting
enough story to stand on her

968
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,280
own. I don't know if I'm wish.
Full thinking or what. But like,

969
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,500
if I'm Sheena Kristen Doty is a
tried and true reality star. You

970
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:12,180
have a long history with her, so
her bashing and going team Janet

971
00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:14,940
is very silly to me. She's
picking it on the team. Oh,

972
00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:20,720
I agree. And to be clear, I do
not like Janet. Jason had me

973
00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:24,320
fooled a little last season, but
now I think Jason is just as

974
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:32,000
bad. But I have thought she was
good at pot stirring and not I

975
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,480
did think that Janet kind of was
not afraid to kind of bring the

976
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,640
drama, but this lap last episode
really crystallized something

977
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,620
for me, because everybody's
having the thought, right? Which

978
00:55:44,620 --> 00:55:49,600
is, why is Janet still talking
about Danny, even though Danny

979
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,380
Nia and Jasmine are not only
like, have worked through it,

980
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:56,800
they've worked through it twice.
They're now working together to

981
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,980
get the Bucha family a house. So
I'm like, read the room Janet,

982
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:05,700
like, tell us something
interesting about yourself for

983
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:11,160
once. And of course, like Janet
Jasmine, which, by the way, I

984
00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:15,660
had read that Jasmine, I guess,
was really seasick on that

985
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:18,120
cruise from hell. And I was
like, Oh, that makes sense,

986
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,860
because you see her, and she's
like, Jasmine's like, covering

987
00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:24,860
her mouth, and like, you don't
know if that's like, a reaction,

988
00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:27,260
and then, like, you can almost
see her kind of get and I'm

989
00:56:27,260 --> 00:56:31,400
like, oh, that's why she was so
quiet. Is because she was

990
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,640
worried if she opened her mouth
she was gonna puke. Yes, that

991
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,960
makes sense. But Jasmine finally
speaks up in her confessional,

992
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,820
saying, Can Janet, please stop
talking about a situation that

993
00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:46,480
is my business and Melissa's
business. We don't want her

994
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:47,380
discussing it.

995
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:51,580
Yeah, it's enough. Janet, yeah.
And now she changed her picture

996
00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:56,080
to Voldemort. I saw that, Nia.
It's like she's trying to act

997
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,200
like, Ha, I'm in on the joke.
You aren't in on the joke. Okay,

998
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,100
you're so mad, even when you're
getting your tattooed rings,

999
00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:05,640
you're talking about how all the
comments are so hurtful. Anyway,

1000
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,000
moving on from Janet, we heard
this in May, but it's officially

1001
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:14,520
concerned. Confirmed Jax will
not be on the valley Season Four

1002
00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:19,020
on his show. Things This isn't
this is now the second time he

1003
00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:22,820
said that and been let go. I am
going to tell you what I think.

1004
00:57:22,820 --> 00:57:27,080
I think that Jax keeps his nose
clean, figuratively and

1005
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,400
literally, or at least as far as
the public is concerned, for a

1006
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,280
while, I think there's a
possibility they throw him on

1007
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,780
traitors. I think they put him
on Season Five the valley, and

1008
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:43,780
people will say, Why? Why? Why?
For one, reality TV is more

1009
00:57:43,780 --> 00:57:48,340
forgiving to mail trash for two.
Look at all the ways that

1010
00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:51,580
they've rewarded. Sandoval, I
just think there are certain

1011
00:57:51,580 --> 00:57:53,800
people that they feel bring the
viewers, and maybe they're

1012
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,960
right. I mean, they do do all
their like,

1013
00:57:56,140 --> 00:57:59,980
what do they call that? Testing,
psychological testing. Wait,

1014
00:57:59,980 --> 00:58:01,080
what testy the

1015
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,040
networks like

1016
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,060
do, like ratings, like their Q
Right, right, Q testing, yeah.

1017
00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:08,040
So they do the Q scores, yeah.

1018
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:11,040
And I'm going to say even more,
I had a source tell me that they

1019
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,700
believed that Jax would get some
sort of like lump sum to kind of

1020
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:17,940
shut his mouth for a while and
take his time out. And people

1021
00:58:17,940 --> 00:58:20,960
want to know why. And there's a
variety of reasons why, not? The

1022
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,900
least of which is that they have
to make it a safe situation for

1023
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:28,400
Britney, or they'll really be on
the hook, right? So I don't see

1024
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,680
this being a forever thing
unless he really goes off the

1025
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,460
rails and like, we're seeing him
like, coked up and like crazy,

1026
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:37,520
and Britney's going to magazines
and you know what I mean. But I

1027
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,660
think if he could keep himself
under the radar a bit, and I

1028
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:43,780
think the true tell to if what
I'm saying is true, if we don't

1029
00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:47,140
hear him come out and slam,
bravo, then what I'm saying is

1030
00:58:47,140 --> 00:58:47,440
true.

1031
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:55,480
Yeah, I 100% agree. I do think
too that if, and I don't know

1032
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,260
that anybody thinks that this is
possible. So let me just throw

1033
00:58:59,260 --> 00:59:05,640
that out there before I even say
this, if Jax actually stays

1034
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:10,860
sober, you know, stops doing
whatever it is that's making him

1035
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:17,400
have these rage situations,
really shows himself to be there

1036
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,340
for his child to be a Good co
parent, and, you know, it's a

1037
00:59:22,340 --> 00:59:26,600
year later, not this BS, where
he is, like, I, you know, it's a

1038
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,100
few months after the after the
divorce, and he's still raging,

1039
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:34,100
but like, he actually puts in
the time and actually gets

1040
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:37,340
better, instead of just pretends
like he's getting better by

1041
00:59:37,340 --> 00:59:43,900
drinking vodka and water in a in
glasses at his at his bar, but

1042
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:47,140
if he actually does it and puts
in the work, I think people

1043
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,400
would be interested to see that.
I think there would be some

1044
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,540
redemption in that for him. But
do we think he's capable of it?

1045
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,220
I don't think so. And

1046
00:59:57,220 --> 00:59:59,500
so then the next question is,
what does the cast look like

1047
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:03,120
next to. Reason, certainly
they're bringing people on. Do I

1048
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,240
think that this whole Sheena
press junket helps her with the

1049
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,600
valley? Love it or hate it? I
think the odds are in her favor

1050
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,320
for it to help her, because you
don't think that the producers

1051
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,180
are like, All right, well,
Sheena is already on the show.

1052
01:00:15,180 --> 01:00:17,760
She's already friends with the
people. We could up her pay, and

1053
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,360
we could hear all about the
affair. I think it's likely

1054
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,440
guys, yeah, I mean, that's, it's
not a coincidence, because we

1055
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,340
know they start filming any day
now for the valley, because they

1056
01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:31,400
want to pick back up and get
debate, you know, the the whole

1057
01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:36,440
the babies and the Bucha 's new
house and all of that Kristen as

1058
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,000
a mom. So

1059
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:41,320
I would love nothing more than
if that means Janet gets bumped

1060
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,200
to friend of that would be
beautiful. So

1061
01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:49,300
I think I actually have an
opinion that I think is very is

1062
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:52,360
what I think you probably agree
with this. I think a lot of

1063
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,780
people agree with this. Like
part of what we've really liked

1064
01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:59,560
about the valley is that there
have been new people that have

1065
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,780
their own stories and have their
whole own situations. I

1066
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:10,320
personally would rather see a
gamble get made on people that

1067
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,360
we have not seen. So no
Sandoval, no Sheena, no love,

1068
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:15,600
sure.

1069
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,200
Danny and Nia have friends.
Yeah, bring them on.

1070
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:21,860
Look at Zach, right? Because,
like, we'd seen Zach in the

1071
01:01:21,860 --> 01:01:25,460
background for stuff on
Vanderpump like, and in

1072
01:01:25,460 --> 01:01:29,660
Brittany's wedding and all of
that. But giving him a platform,

1073
01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:34,460
like he his second season has
been awesome for him. Like, give

1074
01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:37,400
somebody else a chance. I don't,
I if, bravo, if you're

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listening. I don't want to see
Sandoval. I don't, I just don't

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care. Agreed, hard, agree, yeah,
and Jana and Jason can go, I

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don't think they're an integral
part of this show to me,

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hard, same before we sign off, I
just want to send our love and

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01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,320
support to Denise Richards, I
not even sure if you saw this,

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:04,140
Amanda, and I did. Yeah, I did.
It is horrific, extremely

1081
01:02:04,140 --> 01:02:09,420
horrific. I did post and I want
to share here, if you or anyone

1082
01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:13,740
you know is dealing with
domestic violence, you can text,

1083
01:02:14,340 --> 01:02:21,860
begin, capital, B, E, G, I N to
88788, to have some support via

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01:02:21,860 --> 01:02:29,840
text, or you can call
800-799-7233 the photos shared

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,960
of Denise's face,

1086
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,860
yeah, it's Yeah, it is awful.
And and

1087
01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:41,200
then people write in comments,
like I just pulled up TMZ post

1088
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,200
and they write, so why didn't
she start the divorce? Are

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,100
people? Okay? I am so sick.
Don't

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01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:52,300
be imagine, if you will, a big
blow up. Where there this sort

1091
01:02:52,300 --> 01:02:56,740
of situation happens. You have
children. You have a child who

1092
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,920
has special needs, like maybe
your first step is not to run to

1093
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,280
the courthouse. Your first step
is to make sure that your

1094
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,340
children and your family are
okay, and yourself that you're

1095
01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:12,660
okay. You know, I just hope that
this means that he won't be able

1096
01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:15,540
to get any alimony. And people
point out that there were scenes

1097
01:03:15,540 --> 01:03:18,000
when she was on Beverly Hills,
like there was an instance where

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01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,100
he squeezed her hand really
hard, and there were just

1099
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:23,120
indications that this was
happening. So again, all of our

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01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,200
love to Denise.

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01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:30,080
Big hugs to Denise. Yes, I hate
to end on that note, but we love

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:30,740
you guys

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01:03:30,860 --> 01:03:32,300
till next to you next week.

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