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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio, Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. In the booth for the Browns and the Raiders This Sunday, yay, we get to talk about Shador Sanders and I have a reason to here, Ross, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: What do you hope to see from Shador Sanders this Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I guess just making strides and improvement, and I think that he definitely will look better than he did on Sunday against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Although I would also say this, Dan, I think if you watched each play and the coaching.

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Speaker 4: Tape of each play, it looked a lot better to me than when I just saw the stats. You know, you initially see four of sixteen interception whatever. When I watched, I thought it was better than that. You know, he made some really good throws. They very much struggled to pick up the blitzes that the Ravens were bringing it him. I mean they threw the kitchen sink at him, and not just at him, They threw the kitchen sink at the Browns offense, and the Browns offense did not do a very good job of picking it up and putting Shador in a better position to succeed. I think we're all just excited to see what does it look like when the whole game plan is designed for his strengths and to mitigate his weaknesses. He gets every rep this week throwing the ball to Jerry Judy.

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Speaker 3: And those guys.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, Dame, we can't look at this one game and make a definitive judgment as to what his NFL career is going to be. But I am really excited, like everybody is, to see what he can do with having everything aligned for him, at least for this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody seems to pick a side with this topic. I just said, let the kid play, that's all. I just don't want the media to make him into Tim Tebow. That you're not good enough to start, but there's too much of a distraction to keep you on a roster because I remember when Tebow did he go to the Patriots and I go, how do you cut Tim Tebow?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: You get to that point and head coach doesn't want to be dealing with that. I hope Chador can show us that he can either play or he can't play because you're gonna put so much pressure on it. Head coach that he's got to deal with the Chador situation, and I agree with you. When I'm watching that game he had no time, I would tell him, you got a clock in your head that if it's not there in three seconds, throw it away. Don't try to make a play. You're not athletic enough, you're not your dad. You got three seconds at the most, and Max Crosby's coming after you, so get it, read it, get rid of it, and live to see another play.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, well, it's funny that you mentioned, you know, the Tebow effect, because most people I talk to thought he was like a late first round, early second round pick.

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Speaker 3: So I believe that that.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe he didn't nail the pre draft process, and you talk to people and they'll tell you that. But I still do think that how popular he is, or how polarizing, whatever word you want to use, I do think that contributed to his fall on the draft because I think people said, Okay, if he's not going.

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Speaker 3: To be the starter, we.

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Speaker 4: Don't want the most talked about person on our team to be a rookie second or third string quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Dan, I think I told you this.

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Speaker 4: I've never experienced anything like this calling games, but last year I did Colorado Colorado State on TV for CBS, and Dan, I don't know if it's real people or it's bots or what, but if you say anything positive about Shador, there's a weird group of people or bots or whatever. They jump down your throat right away. That was an easy pass the receiver may to play. He's not good. And then if you say anything negative about Shador, there's a whole other like group of people or FOT.

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Speaker 3: Army or whatever. Nobody's just kind of like relaxed with him.

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Speaker 4: It's it's the strangest thing that And I guess I can see how someone has supporters that are that strong. The weird part of it, to me is this group of detractors that seem so invested in him not performing well. I have never experienced it like that any other game. After the game, I looked at my social media mentioned and it's like people were big mad no matter what I said.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's agenda base coverage. I see members of the media, it's agenda base that they want to have. They have a relationship probably with Dion. You want to stay in good favor with him. It feels like they're fighting for Dion and Shador and kind of carrying the water or the complete opposite. And as I've said on the show, I voted him third in the Heisman. I thought of him that much. That he played behind a bad line, hung in there, took some big hits, put up some big numbers, and I just said, I think he's going to start this year. Give him a chance. Let's just see if the kid can play. It's hard enough to play the position. Now everybody is going to be watching you, and everything you do is going to be scrutinized. Now. Has he invited this? Yes, Dion joined us in New Orleans at the Super Bowl and he told us he was dictating the draft of where his son would go or not go. So they kind of put themselves in this position. And it's ironic that he makes his first start with the team I thought was going to draft him, the Raiders, and they passed him up. And Tom Brady has known Dion and Shadoor. He is mentored Shador, and Tom is a minority owner of the Raiders, And it told me an awful lot that a team that could use a backup quarterback and maybe an eventual successor to Gino Smith. They passed on him, I think, you know five or six times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well a lot of He was passed on him a lot of times.

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Speaker 3: Although there have been reports that have.

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Speaker 4: Come out that evidently, you know, he and Dion told certain teams not to take him because.

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Speaker 3: They didn't want to go somewhere where they had an established starter.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: How accurate those reports are or aren't.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, though, did I get that Lamar Jackson he didn't want to go to the Ravens because they haven't established starter. That's Lamar Jackson with Gino Smith and the Raiders and Tom Brady. That to me is a great That would have been a great landing spot.

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Speaker 4: Especially with how Gino Smith has struggled this year. Which is one of the interesting things about the Raiders is I think they brought in Pete Carroll and Gino Smith to kind of change the culture right and to get a winning culture and to be competitive. But they're not competitive, and yet they're not really playing their young guys yet either. I still think Pete Carroll's trying to flip the culture that both these teams are in really really fascinating position.

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Speaker 2: Is Pete Carroll coaching for his job this year?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would imagine that everything's on the table for the Raiders at the end of this year, you know, quarterback, head coach, because if you brought in Pete Carroll for credibility and to write the ship.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they had delusions of grandeur of.

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Speaker 4: Being a playoff team this year, but they had been so down for so long.

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Speaker 3: I think the goal was with.

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Speaker 4: Gino and Pete, we can be a seven to eight win team and start to build this thing the right way and change.

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Speaker 3: The culture here. And unfortunately, for a number of different reasons, it just it hasn't happened for him.

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Speaker 2: Here's another thing I don't understand. I love Dashton Genty, I love the pick, but I love the pick when I have a good offensive line. I want to have a good offensive line first before I draft a running back.

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Speaker 4: Well, so there's a couple things there. Number one is their offensive line is not good. Their best player, Colton Miller's hurt, probably their second most talented JPJ, the right guard, he's hurt, you know, watching.

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Speaker 3: Them against the Cowboys Monday night.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure they have a guy starting Dan that is an average starter right now in the NFL. I mean maybe Parm at left guard or Glaze at right tackle. The other thing that's interesting though about Gent and I you know, I someday I called the Lions Eagles game for Westwood One, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching that game and I'm thinking about Gent.

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Speaker 4: You know, usually if you're like a top fifteen pick as a running back, it's Saquon, Bijon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs. Like you are electric. I mean when you Dan, you can feel when Jamiir Gibbs has the ball, he's operating a different speed anybody else out there that's not really genty. Gent is like an incredible tackle breaker and making people miss.

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Speaker 3: But he's not. He's not operating in a different speed out there.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have that level of explosiveness, which I think makes him interesting as a sixth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Raiders are a mess right now. Pro Football Focus has that offensive line ranked thirty first. We're talking to Ross Tucker the Ross Tucker Football podcast, available on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. He'll be on the call for the Raiders and the Cleveland Browns. You got the Bills and the Texans tonight. This is kind of interesting with that great defense by the Texans. I don't know how good the Bills are. I don't know how good the Texans are either. Texans are a five and five no c J start. So how do you can't handicap this that the Bills are favored by five and a half at the Texans against one of the best defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the two best deep well, I will say the three best defenses right now would be the Browns, the Texans, and the way that he to play these last two games, holding both the Packers and Lions under double digits. But the Texans edge, rushers, corners, they are elite. This is a major, major challenge for the Bills. And I know that Josh Allen had six touchdowns on Sunday against the Bucks, but he also had two pretty bad interceptions. And so this is one where the Bills might have to win it ugly.

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Speaker 3: They might have to win it with defense, They might have to kind of win it.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixteen, sixteen thirteen, And that's okay, you know that works as well.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense is a start.

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Speaker 4: He's won the first two and he's kind of saved the Texans season. If they lost either one of those, they would probably be done. But they are still very much alive because Davis Mills has done what you want a backup quarterback to do, which is come in and not be the reason why the team loses the game.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense, yikes.

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Speaker 4: They've lost some guys at Oliver Michael Hoyt that I think they were really counting on. You know, it's wild because right now, Dan, you know, it's looking like the Bills and Chiefs, maybe even the Ravens are gonna be wild cards.

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Speaker 3: But what are people.

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Speaker 4: Really gonna predict if it's the Chiefs in a wild card game at New England or at Indy or at Denver.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we just had it Sunday.

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Speaker 4: The five and five Chiefs were three and a half point favorites on the road against the nine and two Broncos.

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Speaker 3: So what they're telling.

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Speaker 4: You is, yeah, we know there's this group of teams at the top that have these nine and two, eight and two records, and we know where the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs are.

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Speaker 3: But the betting public or the pros or whoever.

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Speaker 4: When it really comes down to it in the playoffs, people are still going to believe that Daniel Jones and May and those guys Bonnicks beat Josh Allen Lamar and Mahomes in the playoffs when they see I don't think it could be a ton of people picking those home favorites in those playoff games.

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Speaker 2: What do you think your opinion is going to be if the Cowboys happened to beat the Eagles this Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I think if the Cowboys beat the Eagles, my opinion will be I will say I was a little bit wrong about Jerry Jones trading for quinnin Williams. I did not think it made a whole lot of sense to make that move in the middle of what felt like a lost season, but coming out to win against the Raiders where they looked a lot better on that side of the ball. If they now beat the Eagles and they win back to back and they're very much in the playoff mix for the rest of this season, then I'll tip my cap to Jerry Jones and I'll say kudos to him for not giving up on the season and letting those guys have a chance to really make a run at this thing because that offense, with that old line and Dak and those receivers, they have a puncher's chance in any game they play. So if the defense can just be average and they were better than average Monday night in Vegas, if the defense can just be average and they get to the playoffs, they could be a scary out for somebody.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was just thinking about this. Is Miles Garrett gonna be the defensive version of Joe Thomas in Cleveland, where first ballot Hall of Famer but has nothing to show in his resume.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean he already is. You know, think about this.

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Speaker 4: I think right now, and they might even be the betting favorites, But I think right now, Miles Garrett's the defensive player of the year clearly. I think Carson Schweeshinger, their rookie linebacker, is the defensive rookie of the year. They're two and eight, I mean, the defensive player of the year and defensive rookie of the year on a.

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Speaker 3: Two and eight team. I can't begin.

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Speaker 4: To explain Dan how crazy what Miles Garrett's doing is. For two reasons. Number one. They never have a lead. You know, he's never able to just tee off for the whole fourth quarter because they have a two score lead. You know, the other team's throwing it. These are sacks in regular down and distance. He doesn't have a chance to just pin his years back. Secondly, the entire week the Raiders this week, all they're talking about is we're not gonna let Miles beat us. We're not gonna let it be Miles. We're gonna chip, we're gonna slide to them, we're gonna bring the tight end over, we're gonna have a running back b gap like the whole For him to do what he does every week, when I know for a fact, having been a former offensive lineman, that he's the guy that you talk about in game plan and say we're not gonna let him ruin the game, and yet he still ruins games, is unbelievably impressive.

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Speaker 2: Safe travels. Always great to talk to you, buddy. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe i'll wave as our planes cross tomorrow as I'm flying to Vegas, you guys are flying back, I'll wave to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Ross Tuckers, CBS Sports west Wood One, NFL college football analyst and he'll be on the call for the Browns and the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Away seating with a mystery email or text message from your wife? Can you give that to us and then we'll get to a new Brisco Maybe she can help answer this question. I think she can.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, So I just got a text from my wife during the show and the text says read this post in some.

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Speaker 2: Of the comments. Oh no, and it's a tweet.

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Speaker 7: It's a link to a tweet, and the tweet says being five nine to five eleven is the worst height for men. You're not tall enough to coast the dating market on easy Street, yet not short enough to be single mindedly driven to become a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: So I'm five eleven in three quarters.

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Speaker 7: I fall right into that window of this is the worst height for men because you're just kind of average. You're not really tall so very attractive, and you're not short enough to just become a billionaire.

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Speaker 8: Should I tell you that?

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Speaker 9: My husband is like maybe five eight, Like if I'm five to seven, he's like maybe five.

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Speaker 2: Eight, all right, Yeah, but he's a race car driver. Yes, so that comes.

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Speaker 9: In handy, Okay, So like it got him like the edge there because he's small and he can fit inside the cars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he's a dan atte. I mean he actually aspired to do something greater than that.

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Speaker 7: According to this, he's on the fast track to being a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: I mean that sounds great, that sounds amazing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know about the fast track part of it.

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Speaker 7: So then you start reading the I started reading the comments. The first one says five ten is like one hundred and fifty k year. Comfortable but not impressive.

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Speaker 9: Okay, this is kind of average, right, kind of average.

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Speaker 8: I guess average.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs.

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Speaker 9: If you ask a woman what's the ideal height, she's probably gonna say six foot six two.

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Speaker 2: Six TWOI ish, right, yeah, I mean that's what they're hoping for.

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Speaker 7: So I lie, like every five to eleven guy in the world lies and says they're sixth foot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody does. How about a full intro here, Nicole Brisco the Sports center anchor, Formula one reporter, eleven o'clock Eastern Sports Center. We used to watch you in the morning, yeah, Randy Scott, Yes, yes, soon you might lead him.

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Speaker 8: Oh, you know, essentially the overnight.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. ESPN will televise the Las Vegas grund Priat of An Eastern this Saturday. What should we know going into this race?

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Speaker 8: Oh god, that's an open ended question. What should you know?

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Speaker 9: You should know that this is year three in Vegas and this event has changed so much since you're one to now. But this will likely be the coldest race of the season, which could absolute havoc in terms of grip and the way the cars handle on the track.

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Speaker 8: But historically this has been one of the best races of the year. There's a lot of passing.

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Speaker 9: There's normally, like you know, passing can be difficult. So just like buckle buckle, buckle up, it's.

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Speaker 8: Gonna be a good it's gonna be a good weekend. We just need the rain to stay away.

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Speaker 2: But I wondered about that because NASCAR is built on, you know, the drama of passing, and you know that's also.

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Speaker 8: Oval racing, so it's completely different.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is Formula one doesn't have that many elements of passing.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't, so you have to take Formula One in sort of like in sections, you have of the front of the pack, you have the midfield.

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Speaker 8: Guys and you guys are at the back. There is passing within the groups. There is competition within the groups.

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Speaker 9: But the likelihood that say a mid pack team is going to take it to McLaren probably not. But a Ferrari, a Mercedes like George Russell ran away with this race last year, they could easily be on the move against like a red Bull this weekend and then you could have an interesting battle in the midpack. So there is passing, it just may not look like it from top to bottom.

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Speaker 2: The driver and the car give me the ratio of you know, may have this in horse racing, may have this in a lot of things. So how would you assess that ratio of how good is my driver, how good is my car?

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Speaker 9: You can't have You cannot have it all without having the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 8: You really can't.

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Speaker 9: And I think there are some drivers who can like make up that gap you've got.

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Speaker 8: I think Max Verstappan is probably.

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Speaker 9: The best example of this, because I've always said I feel like Max can drive a shoe box. And I think this year, in a lot of ways, has almost cemented his legacy as one of the greatest drivers of all time, because in years past he probably had the best.

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Speaker 8: Car and he ran away with the championship. At the beginning of this year, the Red Bull was sort of like it was terrible.

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Speaker 9: And he was still making things happen with it, and you'd watch the onboard sometime and you'd be like, how the hell is he driving that car? Let alone like putting it near the front, being competitive with it.

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Speaker 8: And so if you look at what they've done.

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Speaker 9: Since they've made the upgrades, you've taken this world class generational talent and a driver, and then you've taken a great car and they've taken a guy who five races into the season was like I am out of this championship, and now he's very much in contention for the championship.

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Speaker 8: So you have to have that. You look at McLaren.

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Speaker 9: They have two great drivers and they've made so much improvements to their car and that's put them in the front of the field.

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Speaker 8: But if the car falls off, then I.

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Speaker 9: Don't really know if they're in the same position.

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Speaker 3: Is this it has to.

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Speaker 8: Be a solid relationship between the two.

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Speaker 2: We love to do greatest of all time rankings here, Yes, Lewis Hamilton, goat uh.

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Speaker 9: So you have to It's a little bit like in the NBA, Like I'm a nineties kid, so like I personally say all greatest of all time conversations starting in with Michael Jordan, you do have to think generationally.

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Speaker 8: You can't have like the the.

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Speaker 9: Michael Schumacher era is not the same as the that the era now. So when you're talking about the greatest of all time, I think you have to include Schumacher.

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Speaker 8: You have to include some of the guys from before that, and then yes, Lewis Hamilton. But I also think you make.

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Speaker 9: A case already for for Max Verstappen. You could look at some of the things that Sebastian Vettel did, and you win four straight championships and it is still the youngest champion ever. It's it's an interesting sport and it produces a lot of greats.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's the it's the pinnacle of motorsports.

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Speaker 2: But how do you grow up and say I want to be a Formula One driver. We go, I want to be a quarterback, I want to be a pitcher. You know that seems to.

00:22:08
Speaker 8: Be you have a bajillion dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's usually a good place, sister.

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Speaker 9: I mean, honestly, you're talking at the end of the day, you're talking this year the twenty best in the world. Next year to be twenty two because Cadillac is coming on board. But essentially, they begin driving at this tall you know, they're four when they get into a Jeff Gordon, Yes, exactly. You start at this age and it's a little bit like you know, you watch a guy who's like a hockey player, they're skating before they're walking. These guys are driving before they're doing anything else, and it's very cute when they're little, but This is an incredibly expensive sport and most of the time it has to come from like your family or your sponsors. And unless you are good at it, you cannot advance because no.

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Speaker 8: One's going to back you.

00:22:58
Speaker 9: And the amount of money takes to be where these people are now is just it's absurd.

00:23:04
Speaker 2: What do they make? Kind of money are we talking about?

00:23:08
Speaker 9: Like, I mean, I don't I think when you look at like sponsorships and things like that, I don't think it's out of the remot possibility to say.

00:23:14
Speaker 8: For Stabbin brings in eighty million dollars a year. That's my guess.

00:23:20
Speaker 2: They don't have a salary cap for UNA one.

00:23:22
Speaker 9: Well, they do have a cost cap, and so those things and the nuances of that I can't totally give you.

00:23:28
Speaker 8: But there is a cost gap, so they do have to operate within the budget.

00:23:31
Speaker 9: But I don't know if the driver's salaries are included in that.

00:23:34
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure they're not.

00:23:35
Speaker 2: We're talking to Nicole Brisco, the sports center anchor, Formula one reporter. ESPN will televise the Las Vegas Grand Prix at eleven Eastern on Saturday. What do you remember about your first sports center?

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Speaker 8: Oh, my god, like so freaking nervous because McQuaid called me.

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Speaker 2: Mike McQuaid runs, yes, yeah, right exactly.

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Speaker 9: So I had been at ESPN for what seven or eight years because I had been doing the NASCAR stuff, and then when our NASCAR contract ended, they were like, come do Sports Center. So I was like, that sounds like a nine to five job, considering you know, all the travel, and like in our world, it kind of.

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Speaker 8: Is because it's it's sort of normal.

00:24:13
Speaker 9: And so I was there and I was doing like the rookie orientation even though I'd been with the company seven or eight years at this point, and McQuaid calls me and he's like, we've.

00:24:20
Speaker 8: Had a stick call. We've got nobody left, and I was like great, cool. He's like, go go do this show.

00:24:25
Speaker 2: And this is his voice too, because like it's.

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Speaker 9: Just like nothing like if he smiles at you, it's more like a grimace.

00:24:32
Speaker 8: And you're like, I think that's a good thing.

00:24:34
Speaker 5: I don't know.

00:24:35
Speaker 9: But also I will say this about him, like we give him a lot of he's the kind of person like I don't think he'll ever ask you to do something he himself wouldn't do.

00:24:43
Speaker 8: So like you kind of want to work for the guy.

00:24:46
Speaker 9: I remember being nervous, feeling like I had never worked in TV before.

00:24:51
Speaker 8: Shot sheets, You're like, what the hell is this? Like like stuff. It's like when they say.

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Speaker 9: About the game of like football, right like you move from level to the next and you're like, well, the game is finally slowed down. The game was like in hyper speed on that day one, and now I'm like, it's you know, it's now it's slowed down.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch your performance back?

00:25:12
Speaker 8: No, like from day one? Oh god no, No, not that one. I've watched others, but that one. I was just like, you know what, we're gonna We're gonna remember this. We're gonna live in the moment, and then we're gonna I know.

00:25:23
Speaker 2: Like you know, you let's show Nicole stop.

00:25:29
Speaker 9: Like you know when you make mistakes, like you know, so, I mean, you're just sort of honest. And I think it was February fourteenth. I knew the mistakes that I made, and I thought, I know where I need to improve, and so you just sort of like build on on that. And I was just like I'm gonna I'm gonna enjoy it. And that's that's what that That's why I take away from that one.

00:25:51
Speaker 2: I used to watch the show back every single night.

00:25:54
Speaker 8: Well, I but I.

00:25:55
Speaker 9: Do now because it's most of the time I'm on the rear, so we close and then I watch it on the way home, and so I watch.

00:26:04
Speaker 8: It every night. Essentially, don't know.

00:26:09
Speaker 9: So okay, because you know that you tape stuff and so like, sometimes you tape stuff and you've got segments and then you don't really know how it comes together.

00:26:16
Speaker 8: Yeah, so sometimes I watched for that to see.

00:26:21
Speaker 9: Oh, that's what that looked like, that's how it came together.

00:26:24
Speaker 2: What's a different sports center now?

00:26:26
Speaker 8: It is?

00:26:26
Speaker 2: Yes, But you know, doing the eleven for such a long period of time, I got I was so fixated on making it perfect. You can't though, I know, but that's why you got to stop it, you know. I was noticing my tie delivery on you know, a pitch to a home run like it had to be. It was really minutia.

00:26:50
Speaker 9: I guess maybe I'm not that much of a perfectionist, and I think to an extent, there is part of that that has made me feel more comfortable in the the role. I think it's good to have that, yes, because you get to a point where you're very comfortable with who you are. You kind of don't give a you know what about what other people think anymore because you're you're in your own skin, you know how you want to sound, you know who you are, and you stop trying to.

00:27:16
Speaker 8: Impress everybody because you know your own worth. Like you're there for a reason.

00:27:20
Speaker 9: And so if you can go out there and you can have fun, yes you're gonna make mistakes, but like, when you think about it, we're talking and in the course of a conversation, how many times do you fumble your word, just in the normal course of conversation, Like that's a normal human experience. And if you expect yourself to go out there over the course of what forty two minutes and be perfect, it's an unrealistic expectation and you're just automatically setting yourself up to fail.

00:27:48
Speaker 8: So I think I let go of that. But yes, it's very easy to do it. Just be like, no, you sucked on that one.

00:27:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it until I was reminded that you got the job right. That's what it took because I kept you know how competitive it is in that building just a little bit, and it can be backstabbing. Everybody wants your job, and you know, I was like, nobody's gonna catch me. I'm not gonna let anybody catch me. But I was not myself until I was told you have the child hub. But this was a couple of years into it.

00:28:20
Speaker 9: Oh No, I definitely felt that way because I had my youngest is nine nine and a half, and I had her fairly early on into my like sports center career, and I really took the minimum amount of time off because you're just at that point. I was like, I was just starting to like find a groove and whatever. And even though the idea the concept of like not taking time off to heal from having a baby like is ridiculous, I felt the need to get back as soon as I could because.

00:28:53
Speaker 8: There's always somebody else waiting in the wings.

00:28:55
Speaker 9: Always the next generation is there, the next person, and so you feel like you have to justify your existence all the time.

00:29:02
Speaker 2: My son, him and his wife just had a baby, so he gets three months off.

00:29:07
Speaker 8: Okay, that's amazing.

00:29:08
Speaker 2: And he said, Dad, how long did you take when he was my first born? I said, I think I took the weekend off. Yeah, And then I went back to work and we had four kids under.

00:29:19
Speaker 8: Seven, which is insane.

00:29:21
Speaker 2: Yes, but of course I wanted to go back to work. I didn't want to stay at home. Yeah.

00:29:27
Speaker 9: I actually had like a human attached to me, So it was a little carter, you know.

00:29:31
Speaker 2: But I think I already had a nation attached to me.

00:29:33
Speaker 9: Yes, okay, fine, I think I took I think I took five weeks with Blake, and I think I took about the same with Finley. But the difference with Finley was now twelve.

00:29:43
Speaker 8: She actually traveled.

00:29:44
Speaker 9: With me for the first year of her life because that was that was the easier thing to do because we were still on NASCAR back then.

00:29:53
Speaker 8: This business is wild, telling you that it's very glamorous.

00:29:56
Speaker 2: I always tell people you don't want to go into this business. You think you do, but once you get in, do you know that?

00:30:02
Speaker 8: That was actually the first career advice I got.

00:30:04
Speaker 9: Like I was in college and it was like doing a basic communications course and the professor was like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And I gave my whole spuel of blah blah blah blah, and he he was like, go get an internship. Now, he was like because I know so many people who think they're getting into the business and they think they're getting one thing, and what they actually get is not reality.

00:30:25
Speaker 8: He's like, you may.

00:30:26
Speaker 9: Hate it, and so I did, and then that's sort of what started the ball rolling on my actual career. But it's because I had this cynical professor who was like, this business sucks.

00:30:35
Speaker 2: You know, it's a tough business. It is, yeah, but you know, I find people who want to be lawyers, and then they become lawyers and they go, I don't want to be a lawyer.

00:30:44
Speaker 8: Yes, I have a friend who did that same thing.

00:30:47
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Thank you for having me. It's great to meet you.

00:30:50
Speaker 8: Yeah you too.

00:30:51
Speaker 2: Nicole Brisco the Sports Center anchor Formula One reporter once again in the Mothership, will televise Las Vegas Grand Prix. They hate when I say the Mothership.

00:30:59
Speaker 8: At the moment, we still call it the Mothership, don't you.

00:31:02
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, yes. Eleven Eastern coming up this Saturday.

00:31:05
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: Frank Kelliendo where as Terry Bradshaw said, is Frank Kella Edendo. He's performing New Year's Eve at the Tempe Improv in Arizona doing shows. He's at the Funny Bone in Omaha January twenty third, twenty fourth, Off the Hook Comedy Club in Naples, Florida, January thirtieth, thirty first. All tickets can be purchased at Frank on stage dot com. Great see you again. I mentioned that going to dinner with you is like going to dinner with five or six different people.

00:31:45
Speaker 5: So well, it happens a lot, like little bits of stories happen right like we were talking about that. I'll get to the full story eventually on here. But just hanging out with William Shatner. I was with him at an event the other day. I kept trying to lock eyes with him and try to get him fight. There was a kind of like what's the problem. I don't know. He's like, I don't talk the way people say I talk. Why do they do that? Why do they say I speakless way? I'm like, you're ninety four, I know why am i awagrahad ninety four? But people tend to do that. Captain's Lug that kind of thing. And when he just talks, he just talks like this, But you can't help from wanting to.

00:32:25
Speaker 1: Talk like it.

00:32:27
Speaker 2: But point of view, when you impersonate somebody, imitate somebody, but then what are you going to say when you use that voice like the context of it? How difficult is that?

00:32:39
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the most difficult things, because otherwise you're just a parrot. Right if you're doing the voice of the person, you're not trying, you're not finding something funny with it. We were talking about Charlie Sheen on the show a couple when he was on the show a couple of weeks ago, and you, I was a setan that noticed the same thing that he would repeat the question back that you would ask, yeah, I U I uh, I asked that. Huh I said that okay, and did that go well? No, all right, okay.

00:33:08
Speaker 2: And then if people watch this, you say, so you're seeing people to.

00:33:11
Speaker 5: This, saw people saw me and you didn't enjoy it? Or you did did I? Did I kill somebody? Did somebody die?

00:33:20
Speaker 2: But in fairness to him, he doesn't remember, though.

00:33:23
Speaker 5: Friend, No, that was the amazing I made it. I did a little social media post that was based on that. It was Halloween candies and he would he had pixie sticks. I was like, those straws with sugar in them, that is sugar. That's what that is. Is that sugar? And it was from this your interview with him that I was like, I picked up that he says something. The questions it afterward, like is that is that right or not? Okay? All right? I was alive during this, right. So it's it's it's finding those little pieces. Terry Bradshaw was easy, not fun if Frank not funny, Charles Barker thinks everything is terrible, not damn, that's really really bad, and the show is not cheating.

00:34:01
Speaker 4: You know.

00:34:01
Speaker 5: So it's if you find those little things, what does the person do? The old school ones seem to be a lot easier. I think the newer people are a little more difficult because people have like the wide rate, like de Niro's become uh, you know, a caricature of himself. Everybody does that? Okay, what doing that?

00:34:20
Speaker 4: Now?

00:34:20
Speaker 5: He does that? He's in the movie Here we Go. Samuel L. Jackson has a cadence. They the writers write the cadence. It's the dud duh dead du da da and you you know there's certain words in there too, right, But that's the that's the song about how many Christopher Walkins have you heard? Low high in the middle? But you know who it is, right because of that little song that they sing.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: Does Gruden know that he's doing Gruden when he talks?

00:34:49
Speaker 5: Uh? I think I think no. I don't know why. I can't really tell, but he's he's into it so much. I mean, he is Gruden times a million. I mean when he was a coach, there were a lot of people that you know, it was. It was a love and hate kind of thing. Now people just seem to love him. He's opening boxes every year. We gotta here, man, let's open this thing up. It's gonna be pretty good right here. Man. I tell you what, He's one of those guys that gets excited out of nowhere when I when I did that hard knocks with him, I'm gonna yell for no reason?

00:35:20
Speaker 8: Man?

00:35:20
Speaker 5: Why am I mad? Right now?

00:35:23
Speaker 2: So you don't think Gruden's playing Gruden.

00:35:26
Speaker 5: I think he just is free. I think he's free in just doing what he wants to do. I think that's kind of it. He's just free to be himself, like he would do crazy things on Monday night football when when he was there there were some certain and he just is doing that type of stuff all the time, but you can't. It's one of those guys that hit you when he talks. Yeah, man, you like that? Huh yeah, be careful. You ever see his hands? His hands sounds like wreck at Ralph for something like that. They're just massive. You know, he's puts them up. He's doing this kind of thing like he's doing a magic reveal here. We call this the Prestige.

00:35:58
Speaker 2: You ever get thirteen.

00:36:00
Speaker 5: Minutes into that movie, man, I'll tell you what, it's a pretty good one. That should see the ending tricks.

00:36:04
Speaker 2: Yet, when do you know when to retire somebody?

00:36:08
Speaker 5: Uh, I don't know. I bring him back little bits. I mean that that's That's one of the things is like.

00:36:14
Speaker 2: Is John Madden always going to be.

00:36:17
Speaker 5: Well with the Madden movie coming back? And I think I'll talk to you guys about that. That'll be big again. I mean it's like and they I don't know if I brought this up to you guys before, but they asked me to audition for that movie for the part of Howard Cosell like I wasn't gonna get it, but I think they just wanted me to talk to Nicholas Cage about being Do you know if I talked about this? But I guess I could just tell the story again. But it was like it was I got a text from my agent, h Nicholas Cage and the director want to call it. You want to do a zoom call with you. I'm like no, Like what do you mean?

00:36:47
Speaker 4: No?

00:36:48
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I want to hang out with Nicholas Cage if I'm gonna give him the recipe of the Madden I want to hang out with Nicholas Cage in Vegas. I want to do Leslie Stall Walk and Talk. I want to write Sidecar to the ghost Rider. I want to be there. I want to hear him to show me his exotic animals. Like here's my monitor lizard. What would John Madden say to this monitor lizard? We're gonna steal the Declaration of Independence? Ool. So it's like I wanted that kind of a thing. I didn't want to do a zoom E's static, you know, and he could get out of it at any time. I wanted to force him to have to and That's probably why they didn't do it. Was they they didn't want to take that time. But John Mann never liked me. He finally kind of turned around when I met him at the super Bowl years later, but it wasn't I didn't know anything about him like that. I think they were trying to do research, and that's what it was gonna be. They were gonna try and ask me a bunch of questions about John Man, like I didn't really know him. I just met him once.

00:37:37
Speaker 2: Do you do a Howard Cosell?

00:37:39
Speaker 5: I don't, And it was this is Howard coach. I mean, it would be that and bad the whole time. And one of the reasons I don't do is because it's so old that some of the impressions I've done throughout the years, I'm like, well, this is like you said you when you retire them. Well, that Howard Cosell was, you know, two generations before John Madden. So I don't know. It gets a little weird there, and who remembers only the oldest of people. Remember you do Howard Cosell on a TikTok video? Nobody cares? I mean that. Then the the next thing that plays, because you're in the algorithm, is uh, Billy Crystal doing it from forty years sixty years ago. I didn't even know you could do it anymore. So I threw it by Crystal.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: And you know, with a comedian, it's trickier. If you're in a band and you play the hits, well, then you get to play the hits the next place, in the next place. But as a comedian, like in a year from now, you can't have the same stand up act say.

00:38:32
Speaker 5: It's to evolve and and people and people's voices changed. By the way, this this the founder Blue Hotel. I told you this when you texted me about coming here. This is my go to hotel and it's because of your show. I listen when you guys were here at the super Bowl a couple of years ago. I heard you there. We were coming for NBA uh Summer League, and I was like, where should we stay? My son? I look, Oh, that's uh, that founded Blue and I'm like, that's where Dan was. It's got gotta be good if the if the if Dan's there, so uh And we looked at the price and were like, holy cow, we were here. We actually booked another place to go afterward, like we're going back to fund of Blue, like because we didn't know what it was going to be, like we checked out, we ended up coming back and now this is this is where I stay most of the time. So where was I going with? That?

00:39:18
Speaker 3: Was it?

00:39:19
Speaker 2: We were we were talking about that.

00:39:21
Speaker 5: Oh well, voice has changed too, So here's here's another thing too. So if you heard on the TV's that's what made me think of Mountain Blue on the TV's the Hall of Excellent. I was gonna say, Brady, uh, but that's playing and it's Morgan Freeman narrating it. But he's ninety year old Morgan Freeman. Look how ol Lizae Shatner's like, he's a young man. But if you listen to Morgan Freeman now, he's much older man. He's like that, this is Morgan Freeman. It's not that thing, you know. Truth of the matter is, it's not that anymore. It's even and not this isn't a political thing. But if you listen to Donald Trump now, he doesn't have the same voice he had ten years ago. Everybody, a lot of people do that.

00:39:57
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00:40:14
Speaker 5: And we done. We don't? We don't. I like when he does that?

00:40:16
Speaker 8: We know that that?

00:40:18
Speaker 5: Then I got to eaven it out with a little biden. Right, folks, come on, what are you doing the thing?

00:40:23
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00:40:28
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00:40:32
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00:40:41
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00:40:57
Speaker 2: But with your shows? Wait, where are you going? No, we're not done yet, mister president, We're not done yet. What at your shows? Though, at the very end you get this, everybody just starts yelling out names.

00:41:15
Speaker 5: People do if I don't get him, like, I forget to do Steven A. Smith sometimes and I understand I do I do Steven a talk. I think you guys talked about the show stephen A talking about Brownie after the fact. I understand where you're going with super serious stephen A. Oh yeah, where we're going with some of these things. And we have to contemplate in perpetuity where it just trails down the end and nothing and we're wondering where it is.

00:41:41
Speaker 2: And then once you go down low then it gets real serious.

00:41:46
Speaker 5: Jay Farrow has like the super hyped up version, so he's got that great. By the way, when we're walking, I listened to the beginning of the show because I wanted to hear how you guys talk about when Matt Friend walked by and I never say hello to him. I don't know him, but he's a very good Like there's some he's great, there's him, there's Jay Farah, there's a kid named Cameron Logs and my friend John Holmberg might be one of the best I've ever seen. But these there's like all kinds of impression people people doing impressions on the internet now. But when Eric was like, oh, looks mad Friend, like you're walking with me and the most awkward here, Oh looks Matt fun He's a great im pussion over. He'stright. I was like, I was like, what is going on here? This is the most of it. I thought it was kind of cool.

00:42:25
Speaker 2: So we're coming back from dinner. We go into the hotel and the big German is there, and all of a sudden he sees this twenty seven year old Matt Friend who has blown up the last.

00:42:34
Speaker 5: Fantastic He's very, very good.

00:42:36
Speaker 2: And here's Eric the big German, going, oh my god, that's mad Friend. He's the best impression. And then all of a sudden, Frank there.

00:42:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, Eric's saying, oh wait a second. There's Airy Spirits, he's incredible. There's Jay Farrell, what's he doing here? There's Ross Markquad, They're incredible. Well, these are some of the best people I've ever seen. Oh Free, what are you doing tomorrow? Well, I'm already on the show as a friend of the show, but now it seems that I've gone down the ladder.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: Do you know that I'm texting with Fritzy as we're walking in the lobby, just say, Matt Friend I think is staying at the hotel. We need to get him on. Paulie is walking and texting Fritzy at the city so we're walking with you, talking to you while we're going, Hey, Todd, Matt friend is I think in the hotel. Let's see if we can get him on. And then Fritzy goes, yeah, I just heard from Paul, and Paul's right there next to me. So we're we're doing that when we're walking with you last night.

00:43:30
Speaker 5: I think it's funny. I'll walk by you guys at the super Bowl and the guys, hey Frank, everybody keeps going nobody text me yeah.

00:43:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:43:37
Speaker 2: We walked into the lobby last night and Fritzy wasn't gonna go to dinner, and all of a sudden, we see Frank there.

00:43:41
Speaker 5: Oh no, this this is what you don't know. I planned it. No, See, that was me conniving my way in that I was with Marvin. We were watching the Yukon game, which is why where the crateon s Creton pull over today? I wanted you to ask me why what's with the What's with the Creighton they won last night?

00:44:00
Speaker 2: Something Connecticut didn't move damn.

00:44:03
Speaker 5: He out of the blue. Marvin texted me last week or early in the early last week. It was he wanted to do a bet Arizona, which I should have taken Oh he wanted to pie in the face. Bet out of that. I was like, oh no, no, no, we were supposed to be talking about F one. We're supposed to be talking about Max for Stapping.

00:44:20
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Oscar Piastre.

00:44:22
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I mean.

00:44:23
Speaker 3: These guys.

00:44:24
Speaker 5: You ever see Chuck Leclerk, I'll tell you it's Charlotte clairk Chuck Leaclark. That's what I said. Man, I don't do French.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: Is that where he's from?

00:44:34
Speaker 5: Where's he from? You guys don't even know.

00:44:37
Speaker 2: Man, nobody knows where Charlotte Leclore is from.

00:44:40
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what this guy. We do a thing called the uh. You gotta go to the break as I saw you grabbing the paper. But we do this thing called the uh, the F one Experiences. And I take my daughter as a huge F one fan, and that's how I get most of my information, so I know all types of She knows everything. But I'm fifty one years old at this point, and I get all the information run so I know little pieces. And that's about it. But this is the first Vegas race I've missed because I got to go work in Jackpot, Nevada tonight, which is gonna be cool. But the uh going to Jackpot, yeah yeah, which is much better than lose your house Nevada. I'll tell you, I got a moon over a little pron uh yeah, so where you were there and lose your house Nevada.

00:45:23
Speaker 2: I know it's not good for radio, but it is good for TV. You've been working on your Fritzy impersonation.

00:45:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not do any radio. I gotta get the voice.

00:45:34
Speaker 7: It's like a weird thing, like you swallow the bottom part of your face.

00:45:38
Speaker 5: If you're that guy who could eat his face. It's kind of like that. I've realized that Fritzi basically when he talks, he gets himself and digs himself into a hole. Then he's like you're in college doing an essay and trying to fill a two thousand word essay and you've only got five hundred words. He's just feeling. He's changing the margins and filling in words and saying the same thing over and over and over. He actually we're talk talking over there. He decided he was done with the conversation. He was going to He clapped and okay, all right, yeah, Paul if Frank was telling me about the texts and the emails he gets from Fritzy that are just the minimum of care. I don't understand, Like, I think you really believe you're being nice, but it's so abrupt. Really, yeah, like I told you about that. I told you about doing Jim Gray's fiftieth birthday party years ago. Muhammad Ali was there, doctor j Bill Walton, all these shaps. He goes, uh, pretty relevant party, fun to be at. Like it's just I thought, I said, that would have been a great thing to right, It would have been fun, would have been a fun would have been a great experience. So I try to be extra nice that it comes across, and somehow kind of it does. I don't know why I got to work. That's not what I want to do. That's not who you are.

00:46:50
Speaker 2: You can I think you're kind descending like kind descending like you're not necessarily you don't mean it, but you you're kind, but you it's sounding.

00:46:59
Speaker 5: Somehow morph sense of fake kindness or something which is not a good thing. It's just the opposite of kindness.

00:47:05
Speaker 2: By the time it's done, he's Frank Kaledendo