The Medical System May Be Fuelling Cancer Growth At The Cellular Level with Dr. Tony Jimenez

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know that cancer is seldom a genetic disease, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Only 2.5 to 5% of all cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_03>What is the medical community?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's almost the very thing that you talk about in the book, the fear, they cause it.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, there's no greater thing than when someone tells you how long you have to live and then it almost traps you in the cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Unresolved emotional trauma oftentimes, quietly, silently, is driving disease at the cell level.

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<v SPEAKER_00>These negative emotions and fear, shame, all that vibrates at a very low level that creates a tumor microenvironment that a damaged cell can then thrive and become cancerous.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We have recently introduced it's like a Trojan horse.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Once inside the cancer cell, the payload is released and it triggers cancer cell death.

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<v SPEAKER_00>She is diagnosed with the primary lung tumor, metastasis to the liver, and 75% of the bone.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And she set a goal that in 365 days she was going to be cancer free.

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<v SPEAKER_00>She broke it by three days.

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<v SPEAKER_00>She was healed before.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And guess what?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hand brain tumors.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The short of the story is that Kate is cancer free again.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Her head's clear as well.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Well, I can't wait for this episode.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I want to introduce you to a man whose life mission is hope.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And I mean that.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Wait till you hear the stories.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But he is also a pioneer in integrative oncology.

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<v SPEAKER_03>He is the founder of Hope for Cancer, worldwide cancer clinic that I have sent many people to.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And yes, you inspire hope.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Tony Jimenez and my wife is on this episode.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Um, Tony, thank you for being here.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Tony Jimenez.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yes, see, I know him so well that I just went right to Tony.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Um, introducing you, Tony.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna call you Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Pampa just for a second because uh I'm so honored to join both you and Marilyn on this podcast because I know that we can transform lives, we can shift those that are in pain to their full purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, and that's what this is about.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Well, your story is a pain-to-purpose story.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I remember when we were having dinner, where was it?

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<v SPEAKER_01>We were in Cancun.

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<v SPEAKER_03>My wife always, always, always remembers the details.

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<v SPEAKER_03>So thank God.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We had a few dinners in Cancun, though, so I'm not sure which one you're referring to.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, it was that outside dinner on the patio.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yep.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yep.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That was Cancun Nazook.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yep.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And um, anyways, it was that dinner that we heard the story that we're gonna tell today.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Um look, I you know, when you end up starting a cancer clinic fighting against the monster of, I don't know, I mean, yeah, uh no doubt big pharma, but big medicine, everything.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's been your struggle too.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And I'm sure you could tell as many stories about, you know, how they've come after you.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Um, but I can tell you how many people's lives have transformed from hope for cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And um, yes, that that is in Cancun.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But your first clinic started in Tijuana?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Was it that's where you started in Tijuana?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, and my first clinic started in Tijuana in the year 2000.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So now in 2025, we're celebrating the 25th year anniversary of the Tijuana Treatment Center and the 10th year anniversary of our Cancun.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Wow, time goes by so fast, doesn't it?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, wow, I know that's true.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, so let's let's reverse the clock here a bit.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Um, I I almost want to go right for your father's story, because that was kind of where it all started.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But let's back up even further.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I want to hear about Tony's childhood.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I do, because I don't know anything about your childhood.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I don't think we've ever gotten there, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, it's like, you know, so early Tony.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Tell us about early Tony.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Like when I tell my story, it's like I was a dyslexic, I couldn't read, I had, you know, every insecurity I have as an adult came out of that.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Where did you start?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Did you have any of those issues?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that's interesting because uh I was born in Columbia, South America.

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<v SPEAKER_00>My parents moved to New Jersey of all places when I was five.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I didn't know the language, I didn't know the culture, and a lot of things happened there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But then I was really good in sports and I was playing baseball in the field, I could catch anything and everything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But hitting, I would always strike out.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So that led to By the way, that was me.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That was I could do anything in the field, but I couldn't hit, which ended up to be I needed glasses, anyways.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Long story, but I couldn't hit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, in the same situation with me, that I was born with no vision in my left eye.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, see.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so the ophthalmologist in New York at the time covered my good eye, saying that it was a lazy eye, the other one, and so forth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That didn't help.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I was born with congenital macular degeneration in the left eye.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So since birth, I haven't had vision on my left eye.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I changed my position in batting, and things, you know, got got a big drive.

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<v SPEAKER_03>What do you mean change your position?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Oh, you went righty or lefty?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I just opened up my stand a bit so I could see with my you know other eye.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, my other eye.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And we still don't have that vision.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I still don't have that vision.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I would have never known that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>How many years have we known Tony?

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<v SPEAKER_01>You're not even cross-eyed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So this is interesting, Marilyn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, we have a patient in Cancun who's an ophthalmologist in Houston, and she's struggling with advanced uh colon cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh actually, she's doing very well now, but she's an ophthalmologist, and I told her about my eye.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And she listened, and then the next day she came in for consult again, and she said, Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Tony, I was thinking about your eye, and I realized something as an ophthalmologist.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There probably is only one in fifty million people in the world that cannot see with one eye from birth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I see, she said, no pun intended, that you see the invisible in the visible world and the reverse, the visible in the invisible world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I was like, wow, so this was truly a gift, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>How that has enabled me to associate with patients and really pay attention because patients want to be heard, specifically when they're in this life-threatening situation that we call cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, fast forward a little bit of the story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, my mom used to take me to the doctor every month because she thought I was too skinny.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Colombian moms want their sons to be children.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Italian mothers want the especially my grandmother.

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<v SPEAKER_03>She was always calling me skinny and I needed to eat, and she would, of course, put anything in front of you to eat, as long as you were eating.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he would give me a B complex injection every month.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I would limp out, and of course, I didn't do anything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But one day I was truly sick.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I had a chest cold, and uh he wasn't in, he was an associate doctor was in, and he gave gave me a prescription, handed it to me, and I looked at it as a 10, 11-year-old boy, and I saw one, two, three, four, five medications.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Of course, I didn't understand what they were, but I said, I'm not that sick.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I asked the doctor, hey doc, what are these for?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, They are for what you have, so take them, and walked away.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so I followed him down the hallway.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You say, wait a minute, what do I have?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, what's going on?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I followed him down the hallway and I said, Doc, can you please tell me what these are for?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He said, I already told you, so take them, and walked away.

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<v SPEAKER_00>At this time, I looked back down the hallway, saw my mom there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>There was a garbage can next to her.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I walked down to her, rip up the prescription, and threw it in the garbage can.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And at that moment, I said, When I'm a doctor, I don't want to be like that guy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I want to truly engage the patient, empower them in their healing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so that was a big story in my life with respect to wanting to be a physician.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And at some time I also asked the doctor, can I be a doctor with only having vision in one eye?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, Yes, you can.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm surprised you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Maybe we wouldn't be here, but I don't think so because that was, I believe in divine.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um, what's the word?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like a divine calling, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>A divine calling that I've had.

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<v SPEAKER_03>No doubt about it.

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<v SPEAKER_03>When I was young, my sister sent me all these things that you know, this book that I loved.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Uh Dan the Bandageman.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Is that what it was?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Uh Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Dan the band.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Dan the Bandage Man, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_03>We all know and I like drew these things always about me being a doctor.

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's like like, who would who would have thought?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I want to go back to one point though.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You said um it was that the I problem that really allowed you to be able to identify with with people.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That was, believe it or not, like so much of my story, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's like so many things in my childhood, growing up, my experiences, my pain allowed me to be who I needed to be today.

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<v SPEAKER_03>How many people, you wonder, don't see, especially kids maybe watching this, or you know, their parents hopefully telling them to watch it, don't realize the very thing they're most insecure about is could be their superpower and don't realize that 100%.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, when I that I said my vision, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>But it wasn't that I didn't have glasses, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It was it was later on that they found that I forget what it was, but that I couldn't, I didn't have right depth.

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<v SPEAKER_03>So I couldn't see the ball coming, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It was like, yeah, so but when you have one eye, you know, if you close one eye, it's hard to judge depth, like even if you're driving.

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<v SPEAKER_03>My 3D is off, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_03>So how did you come, even though you opened your stance up, how did you compensate for that?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's natural, then it's the difference.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I'm just like, wow, yeah, because of the depth, man, that ball's coming fast.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I had a mild version of what you had.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I could see with I with the what the ophthalmologist said, I could see the invisible and the visible words.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like I can see the ball now.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's very profound.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And and your eyes track though the same.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Which isn't always the case, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Which isn't always the case.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Right, because the muscles are okay, it's the retina, macular area, which is where the sharp vision is.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Wow, that's so it's it's been quite a story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, you know, how God has ordained my my life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then my dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was in Houston, went to a famous hospital in Texas there in Houston, and I was in the surgical track at this at this point because I was really good with my hands as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh and uh my dad calls me up and he says, Son, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Stage four, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, stage three B four a few months ago, and I went in to get a treatment, and I had one treatment, and I can't do this anymore.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He had a hormone blocker, uh, Lupron, and he felt terrible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he hadn't told me that he was diagnosed.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He told me after he had gone to this hospital in Houston and received that hormone blocker.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he said, Son, please help me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I said, Dad, I'll call you in five minutes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I hung up the phone, cried and composed myself, and let's go for it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thankfully, uh my dad at that time how did you feel in that moment?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Because you said you cried.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I felt like um I felt positive actually.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I felt that I would have his the solution for him.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Why'd you cry?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I cried because he was my hero.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, he was my father figure, left Columbia's uh uh me at five years old, worked, my he was a truck driver, my mom worked in a factory.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And so did you cry for his diagnosis?

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<v SPEAKER_03>You cried because he had so much faith in you that he asked you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Which would translate to responsibility, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's a very good question.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Responsibility, that would be your battle.

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<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>No, it's true.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I I was just no, because I put myself in that situation, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I I had a very similar relationship with my father, wouldn't you say?

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<v SPEAKER_03>And um merely loved my my dad, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>He, you know, he's just you know such an amazing human.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But I had that similar situation.

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<v SPEAKER_03>So I'd I could imagine my feeling if my father called me and said, Would you help me?

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, it's like so.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Although I had a really amazing relationship with my father, I I I would have done the same thing.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I would have hung up the phone and balled because that he had enough faith to ask me.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I think my father was maybe too proud to ask me for his help, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know what I'm saying?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Which I'm good with that.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, I get that as you know, knowing him, but that would have put me in tears more than that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's interesting because I didn't know how the severity of his condition at that time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So it wasn't that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was what I said.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was what you said, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Beyond that, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>So that made you like, you know, wow.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, but again, it what didn't feel like a burden to you, it sounds like, because you said you were.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I was confident that I would figure something out to help him.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he was our our age, our age.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, at that time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's older than me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Three years.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Three years older than me.

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<v SPEAKER_01>He's older than me.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, exactly.

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<v SPEAKER_01>All right, significantly.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Oh boy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So my dad was about our age, maybe your age.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And um, and thankfully he lived to be 83 years of age, and he died of congestive heart failure, which is another thing for all your viewers on this podcast, because no matter what the doctor says, there is always hope.

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<v SPEAKER_02>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the cardiologist told my my dad at one point that his heart was like an old sponge.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And my dad said, Tony, what does that mean?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I said, Don't listen to that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, hope, I like to say this hope doesn't begin with solutions.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Hope begins with presence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Explain that a little bit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I didn't have the solution for my dad at that time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I didn't know what the treatment was going to be or what I was going to do to help his body heal.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I was present.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And as long as he was present at that same uh time as me to go forward, uh, great things could happen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then we truly recover and live our purpose and get out of pain.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because pain is not the end of the story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The begin it's the beginning of the story to fulfill one's purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Pain to purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That was that may have not ever been said better than that.

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<v SPEAKER_03>The pain is the beginning of the story of the story that leads you to the purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Paraphrasing what you say.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then, of course, if you have God in your life, the outcome is the promise, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>His promise over your life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And talking about God, if I may, for a second, I always say seek, draw, humble yourself and repent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So you seek the Lord, you then draw closer to him, you humble yourself in his presence, and then you repent and lead others in that direction.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's so beautiful, and then that's where there's that true alignment of the spirit, the mind, and the body, and recovery, it's not only possible, but it's inevitable.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, obviously, you're the founder of hope for cancer, and I can tell you, you know, I've spent time in your clinic, not for cancer, but just experiencing a lot of the things you do for people that have cancer, because you have miraculous therapies there that help the healthy, but it help also the sick.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But Marilyn and I have spent time there, and I can tell you your clinic that it it just emanates that.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And and I think that you can take all the therapies away and just what you just said there, your clinic breathes that into people, the the people that you have working there, we fell in love with.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Isn't that what Marcy heads up as the emotional component to the chief spiritual officer from the CEO?

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<v SPEAKER_01>That's fantastic.

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<v SPEAKER_01>But but that's such a that's the other part of the.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I want to hit rewind.

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's like you'd be like, I just want to hear that again, you know, because that's that's better.

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<v SPEAKER_03>We love the God talk because that's our life.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Well, it is.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And how do you separate it?

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<v SPEAKER_01>Even if you don't understand it, you can't separate that battle from the outcome, but unless you put him in the middle, you're not going to achieve you'll never connect with your true purpose because you've never connected to your true identity.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then you do a lot of uh in your teachings, which are brilliant, and and the detox and everything you you do, there's a lot of um, how how can I say it?

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<v SPEAKER_00>There's a lot of fasting or some fasting that you talk.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And when we fast, besides the physical changes and the benefits of fasting, that you could interpret also for what happens when you're fasting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Absolutely.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, it puts you in a different state.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_03>In some ways, a weakened state, in some ways a stronger state, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Um, you know, but you're right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's why biblically, when people were in very great difficulty, they would call fast.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, because it would reconnect them to something much more powerful than themselves.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, yeah, it's when if we would have only known what you said back then, that's why I want people to rewind, because it's like if you would take the pain that you're in, physical, uh whatever pain.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, it's been physical for us, it's been financial for us, it's been our children many times, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, you know, emotional stuff.

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's like if if I would have framed it right away to, oh, this is the beginning of a greater purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>How much different?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, how much faster maybe would we have got to the outcome?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I don't know, way more peace.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Definitely less stress on our health.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We didn't have yeah, right.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We yes.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We and less um turmoil, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>But we we knew what he's saying.

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<v SPEAKER_01>We just could never articulate it until we got through it.

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<v SPEAKER_01>That and and you connecting that sequence.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the reason that I've been able to connect that sequence is that in three decades I've walked alongside thousands of cancer patients that seek only the physical healing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's not only the physical as we know, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's uh it's working at the physical, emotional, and spiritual level.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's deep uh purposeful.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh that's a deep, purposeful.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's a different level of healing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's what God wants ultimately, right?

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<v SPEAKER_01>It's not the physical body that he's most interested in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And so at Hope for Cancer, as you said, Dan, uh we begin every morning with praise and worship.

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<v SPEAKER_00>When the patients walk into the center, there's a hug.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It was tough during COVID because our medical director at the time said, Oh no, we can't hug this and this, you gotta wear a mouse.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I I, you know, good for you, man.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I stop that and continue the huggings.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And patients love it, and that's where they find their joy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I say to all of you that are watching, and you're in a condition where you know there's fear and there's what the white coat doctor told you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Find your joy, live in joy whenever and wherever you are, because that's within you.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I I so want to get to this next story, but I do have to ask this first, because we can build on it later after the story.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But how much can because you've spent so much time around people with cancer, stage four, yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_03>By the time they come to you, they they they're the worst.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, so they're not just they're not showing up with stage one typically, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's like they've already tried everything and they show you, so you have the hardest job in the world.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But having spent so many time with people with cancer, my thing is I know scientifically that toxins lead to cancer, the buildup, the bioaccumulation.

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<v SPEAKER_03>But that said, I always say it's a perfect storm.

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's never just one thing.

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<v SPEAKER_03>How much is linked to the spiritual part, the emotional part?

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, in your estimations, I mean, I I know it's not an exact number, but what's your feeling on it?

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I say that in this journey that I've had uh in decades, uh, it has shown me with cancer patients that unresolved emotional trauma oftentimes is the hidden toxin.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Is the hidden toxin that your body doesn't know the difference, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, quietly, silently is driving disease at the cell level.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, as in ancient Greeks and Egyptian times, when someone went to a healing facility, uh the first person they saw was a spiritual healer, advisor, the monk, the rabbi, the minister, the priest.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then they saw the emotional, psychological counselor.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Then they saw us, you know, the medical practitioners.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We were at the end of the hallway by the bathroom.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the important was on uh spiritual, emotional, and uh, and then the physical.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And that's the subject of my third book coming out in uh November of 2025.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And there's the uh first, if you guessed Hope for Cancer, the name of his clinic.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Uh fantastic book.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, just I I believe you have an error because I I read, I can't say I read all of it, but I read a lot of it because um I was recommending it, but seven, the seven big things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The seven big things.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That that you discuss in that particular book.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And um I read all seven.

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<v SPEAKER_03>So yeah, the seven principles really of how you regain your health or and fear is part of that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, fear is uh that's why the subtitle is uh uh remove fear is number one to empower the healing journey, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh with those seven key principles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So one thing I like about this book now that you mention it, Dan, is that patients or people have approached me in airports, uh supermarkets, you know, different parts of the world, even, and they said, I was never able to go to your clinic, but reading the book, I now am healed.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_02>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_03>You know, because I think that again, what is the medical community?

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<v SPEAKER_03>It's almost they, the very thing that you talk about in the book, the fear, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>They cause it.

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<v SPEAKER_03>They increase the fear.

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<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

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<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, there's no greater thing than when someone tells you how long you have to live or your outcome, your prognosis, you have cancer, right?

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<v SPEAKER_03>Fear becomes you.

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<v SPEAKER_03>And then it almost traps you in the cancer.

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<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

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<v SPEAKER_03>When you talk about that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, I talk about uh the five root causes of negative emotions and emotional trauma.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And one of them is the shock of the cancer diagnosis.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And uh we need to change that paradigm.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll tell you a little story.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We had a patient, tall Brazilian guy, about 6'5, lived in LA, comes to our Tijuana treatment center, and he's there a week, two weeks.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the attending doctor, the assigned doctor, calls me in and says, Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Tony, this patient wants to talk to you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I said, Okay, give me the medical charts so I can know what's going on.

00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:52.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, No, he doesn't want to talk to you about anything medical.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I'm like, okay, that's weird.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I go to see him, tall guy, hi.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I said, What's going on?

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he starts crying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, Thank you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Thank you, Dr.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Tony.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I said, What happened?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He said, Here at this clinic, I heard a few words and they have transformed my life.

00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:14.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And I said, What is that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He said, I heard the voice of God and he said, Son, I love you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Those four words.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I asked him, Why was this so important to you?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, Well, you know, with this cancer diagnosis and being in fear, and I've been doing all kinds of bad things: pornography and this and that, uh, affairs, and I thought my heavenly father had abandoned me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And now he spoke to me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Son, I love you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he said, Now it doesn't matter what happens to my cancer, my heaven heavenly father has not abandoned me and loves me.

00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:54.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And guess what?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He he went into total remission.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Wow.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because at that spiritual level, he was healed.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And I think that's really important for people to hear because in today's world, so many people have a lot of they're unf they have unfortunate circumstances.

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:12.799
<v SPEAKER_01>They have bad things that happen to them.

00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:22.079
<v SPEAKER_01>And they should not that all things happen for you or for your benefit, but you have a choice into how to interpret those circumstances.

00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.440
<v SPEAKER_01>You can either become bitter or you can become better.

00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:26.559
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's a choice.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And then to lead to the purpose, I and we've we've lived this, is that you learn somewhere along the way that your pain is never just for you.

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<v SPEAKER_01>And God uses it to help heal a hurting world.

00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:50.880
<v SPEAKER_01>And that is exactly what all of us believe at our at our core, and and we live it and we get excited, just like you're talking about the hope.

00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:55.039
<v SPEAKER_01>That's that's that just lights me up when I can share that with people.

00:25:55.359 --> 00:26:07.920
<v SPEAKER_03>By the way, that transition, you know, from bitter to better, because you teach, you know, just how that bitterness, all that resentment, skill, all that leads to cancer.

00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:08.400
<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:08.640
<v SPEAKER_03>Right.

00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:20.160
<v SPEAKER_03>So that that transition of the mind, you know, to how you look at your world and the things that happen, et cetera, et cetera, like Marilyn just said, that's you probably have watched people go into remission right there.

00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:20.799
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, absolutely.

00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:22.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And that's what happened, obviously, to him, right?

00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.680
<v SPEAKER_03>So as his mind changed, the body changed.

00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:28.319
<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:30.720
<v SPEAKER_03>Gosh, I mean, I mean, how much of it is that?

00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.039
<v SPEAKER_03>Uh, you know, I mean, the body has the ability.

00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:39.680
<v SPEAKER_03>I always say this the body, innate intelligence that God put in us has the ability to fix anything, anything, any condition.

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.839
<v SPEAKER_00>And who more than you, Dan, knows about cell-to-cell communication, right?

00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.640
<v SPEAKER_00>All these cells are talking with each other.

00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:46.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:58.160
<v SPEAKER_00>And these negative emotions and fear, shame, all that vibrates at a very low level, just like viruses do, specifically the SARS-CoV-2.

00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:00.079
<v SPEAKER_00>It was all about fear, right?

00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:10.960
<v SPEAKER_00>So low vibration, and then you have those cellular changes that create a tumor microenvironment that a damaged cell can then thrive and become cancerous.

00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.279
<v SPEAKER_03>We're gonna get to this story, but Marilyn, I want you to open up to him.

00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:25.920
<v SPEAKER_03>My wife fears cancer because of her mother dying of cancer.

00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:27.599
<v SPEAKER_03>She had breast cancer.

00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:31.599
<v SPEAKER_03>She went, you know, did the natural things, was considered a cure.

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:33.599
<v SPEAKER_03>She lived over five years, right?

00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:40.240
<v SPEAKER_03>Ten years later, almost like to the year, to the day, whatever, uh, she was diagnosed with uterine cancer.

00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:41.519
<v SPEAKER_03>She never got to the real cause.

00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.079
<v SPEAKER_03>Two years, of course, no connection, they told her, right?

00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:45.359
<v SPEAKER_03>When she baloney.

00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.400
<v SPEAKER_03>Two years later, she died of uterine cancer, right?

00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:50.480
<v SPEAKER_03>Um Yeah.

00:27:50.559 --> 00:28:03.759
<v SPEAKER_01>So I mean, I've I've I I I logically, I know that is just honestly, it's it's a it's almost like a demonic tormenting spirit, is what it is.

00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:14.160
<v SPEAKER_01>So I think at this point, I focus because I'm doing all those right things and I have enough tools around me to look at things differently and do things differently.

00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:25.279
<v SPEAKER_01>But I now I focus more on the emotional component and this, I would not even maybe not even emotional, maybe more of the spiritual, like just dissecting.

00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:32.079
<v SPEAKER_01>Is there, you know, a generational spirit that is that has attached itself in some way?

00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:45.279
<v SPEAKER_01>And I and I I mean honestly, I and I feel like too, I can go in um like through seasons, like short stints of um self-absorbed thinking about it.

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.680
<v SPEAKER_03>And then I can tell when she's there.

00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:48.640
<v SPEAKER_03>I get distracted.

00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:49.440
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, exactly.

00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:51.039
<v SPEAKER_01>Like emotionally distracted.

00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:55.839
<v SPEAKER_01>So And of course he's thank God I have him or not, right?

00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:05.759
<v SPEAKER_01>Because I mean, he's always like he gets frustrated with me, of course, but he also can help me back up and do it from a dissect it from a more logical.

00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.400
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, but logic doesn't break her out of it.

00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.480
<v SPEAKER_03>So I guess I'm um it's a two-part question.

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:11.359
<v SPEAKER_03>How can she break it out?

00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.920
<v SPEAKER_03>Because if she has this issue, many people do.

00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:18.000
<v SPEAKER_03>We know that fear, because my thing is my gosh, you're gonna create the very thing you fear.

00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:19.759
<v SPEAKER_03>That does concern you, right?

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:20.559
<v SPEAKER_03>That bother.

00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.759
<v SPEAKER_03>And as we know, you know, yeah.

00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.039
<v SPEAKER_01>So I get more upset with myself, honestly, because of that.

00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.559
<v SPEAKER_01>I feel like that could be the thing.

00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:32.400
<v SPEAKER_03>So I mean, how do you deal with that?

00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:39.359
<v SPEAKER_03>You have these people coming in your clinic that many of them have got there maybe through this route, other routes, other fear.

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:40.480
<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, many things, but yeah.

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:41.200
<v SPEAKER_03>What do you do with it?

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:46.559
<v SPEAKER_00>One thing, Marilyn, is that you're human and there's no judgment here, right?

00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:47.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, of course, right.

00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:48.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And there's no judgment.

00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.480
<v SPEAKER_00>However, faith and fear cannot coexist.

00:29:53.279 --> 00:30:01.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So, as you said, working on the spiritual is of utmost importance because once faith is there surpasses the fear.

00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:03.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, the fear will dissipate.

00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:10.160
<v SPEAKER_00>So I talk about root causes of negative emotions, and this is important for everyone, for all of us and everyone watching.

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And the first one is emotional trauma and sexual abuse.

00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:24.720
<v SPEAKER_00>So think about this as you're listening, and how this can or may not be part of your life, right?

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.680
<v SPEAKER_00>A story.

00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:27.119
<v SPEAKER_00>We all have stories.

00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:34.880
<v SPEAKER_00>The second one is stressful life events, a divorce, loss of finances, loss of a dream.

00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:52.960
<v SPEAKER_00>The third one is a sudden shock, or let's say sudden conflict shocks, a car accident, a death in the family, something that has a deep unresolved episode in your life.

00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.200
<v SPEAKER_00>And then we go to inherited emotions.

00:30:58.559 --> 00:30:59.680
<v SPEAKER_00>What can be inherited?

00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:06.799
<v SPEAKER_00>And then the last one that I mentioned already is that the shock of the cancer or the potential cancer diagnosis.

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.680
<v SPEAKER_01>Well, if that was six or seven, I have all but two.

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So now the areas that you have to work on.

00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:27.599
<v SPEAKER_00>So what I would suggest uh for you and all of us, because I've done this work, is you take a piece of paper, not an iPad or a computer and a pen or pencil, and then you start working on your chronology from birth.

00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:32.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh where was the stresses or the traumatic events in your life?

00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:37.200
<v SPEAKER_00>Dan told me he didn't love me when he was mad at his employee.

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:43.039
<v SPEAKER_00>But for you, that's the love of your life, and that was a significant traumatic experience.

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So, hey, Dan, you know, what's up?

00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:54.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So, anyway, you write down your chronology and start working on each of them because in life cycles repeat themselves.

00:31:54.240 --> 00:32:00.559
<v SPEAKER_00>We know, Marilyn, and you know that cancer is seldom a genetic disease, right?

00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Only 2.5 to 5% of all cancer, very low.

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:05.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Not to worry about, yeah.

00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:06.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly, not to worry about.

00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:15.200
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's about those lifestyles, those um uh emotional and lifestyle imbalances that we need to work on.

00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:15.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:15.920
<v unknown>Yeah.

00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:16.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:22.240
<v SPEAKER_01>And I I think because of so many of the challenges, we've had sequential challenges that were huge.

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:28.799
<v SPEAKER_01>And and I grew up with a lot of emotional trauma that I would never have called an emotional trauma.

00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:36.319
<v SPEAKER_01>I didn't feel like a victim in the challenges I had, but I didn't have my needs met as a kid.

00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:44.640
<v SPEAKER_01>And so looking back on that, I can, I can see how that set me up for fear-based reactions to challenges.

00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:50.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Andor, you know, in some ways, I become idealistic in my expectation of an outcome.

00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:59.599
<v SPEAKER_01>Like, or, you know, like, you know, and you say it all the time, and it would frustrate him when we were going through really hard things and he was, you know, like overwhelmed with the circumstances.

00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:01.759
<v SPEAKER_01>I was that's when my faith kicked in.

00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:03.359
<v SPEAKER_01>Honestly, that is when my faith kicked in.

00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Well, she has great faith way more than me.

00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:12.079
<v SPEAKER_03>You know, for for that's our doc, other people, but for herself, I'm always like, oh my gosh.

00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:13.680
<v SPEAKER_03>It's like you're worried about this.

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.240
<v SPEAKER_03>Like you're not sure.

00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:20.960
<v SPEAKER_01>That probably interests me more because and that bothers me also, because I do have great faith.

00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:35.200
<v SPEAKER_01>And I do know that God wants me to reflect him at the highest level that he has created me for, or impact, I should say, not level, but impact of to make a difference and lead others to that hope that's within me.

00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:36.880
<v SPEAKER_01>So I know that.

00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:41.680
<v SPEAKER_01>And I live, I always say I live in expectation of God showing up and showing off.

00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.440
<v SPEAKER_01>And he has done it repeatedly.

00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So zombie half a turn away, right?

00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:46.319
<v SPEAKER_01>Right.

00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.960
<v SPEAKER_01>So why so how do I take that?

00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.839
<v SPEAKER_00>Um let's start with the chronology.

00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, and it's not about going to psychologists.

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.240
<v SPEAKER_00>This is why at Hope for Cancer, I don't know.

00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:57.599
<v SPEAKER_00>We develop a program.

00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.960
<v SPEAKER_01>I like my mental crop.

00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:02.400
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm good with me.

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.160
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, hopefully cancer would develop a program.

00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:08.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Hey, Yankee, come here.

00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:09.280
<v SPEAKER_03>This is my dog.

00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.960
<v SPEAKER_03>We can cut this part out.

00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:14.159
<v SPEAKER_00>This is like an awesome podcast.

00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:17.440
<v SPEAKER_03>They don't cut it out, honestly.

00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.159
<v SPEAKER_03>It's like Papa life.

00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:22.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Real life, right?

00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:23.599
<v SPEAKER_00>This is real life.

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:24.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Exactly, right.

00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:25.360
<v SPEAKER_01>He's the alarmist.

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:26.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Yep.

00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.559
<v SPEAKER_00>So the behavioral, emotional, and spiritual transformation.

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.400
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what we call our best program.

00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:34.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Behavior, emotional, and spiritual transformation.

00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:41.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And this is where that paradigm shifts and healing could happen like this.

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:42.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Literally.

00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:48.000
<v SPEAKER_00>I didn't know all this out of med school and all that, but now I see it.

00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh it it's it's true.

00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:55.760
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, so because people are watching this looking for answers, have no hope right now, right?

00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:01.199
<v SPEAKER_03>Take us through best because again, I I always love to give people what I mean you by the book, right?

00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.679
<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, it's like, but take us through that a little bit.

00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:11.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, the best program is meeting uh with someone who's trained in behavior, emotional, and spiritual techniques.

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And it starts with you being honest with yourself, right?

00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:16.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And this is your work.

00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:21.599
<v SPEAKER_00>This is not the work that you're gonna share with your husband or your partner or your kids.

00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.400
<v SPEAKER_00>This is your work, and they have to respect this.

00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:29.280
<v SPEAKER_00>So it starts with you writing down your emotional trauma.

00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Sexual abuse, 40% of our patients are breast cancer patients.

00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:34.639
<v SPEAKER_00>40%.

00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:41.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's only increasing, especially in the younger generation, as is colorectal cancer.

00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:41.599
<v SPEAKER_02>Yeah.

00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:43.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, you know, from younger and younger.

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Younger and younger.

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:52.880
<v SPEAKER_00>From 1992 to now, there's been a 52% increase in colorectal cancer between the ages of 20 to 49.

00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.039
<v SPEAKER_00>I never saw this when I started.

00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:01.199
<v SPEAKER_03>You know, and of course, I would point to the massive increase of toxins, which is true.

00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:01.599
<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:02.880
<v SPEAKER_03>But it's never one thing.

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:03.840
<v SPEAKER_03>It's never one thing.

00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:05.760
<v SPEAKER_03>Then it's like, well, yeah, but look at all these other people.

00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:06.400
<v SPEAKER_03>They're more toxic.

00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:07.679
<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, why did I get cancer?

00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.920
<v SPEAKER_03>And this is the second component that you're talking about here.

00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:10.400
<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Which I call the perfect storm.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:17.760
<v SPEAKER_03>So it's this emotional trauma, is like you said, you know, sexual abuse increases that.

00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.480
<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, she had abandonment issues as a father left, you know, when she was a baby.

00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.800
<v SPEAKER_03>You know, it's so all of these things matter.

00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.920
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, so now you're step one is you're writing those down.

00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:29.039
<v SPEAKER_00>You're writing them down.

00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:29.440
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh-huh.

00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:35.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And 70 75% of the solution is in the awareness.

00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:46.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So as you're bringing them to conscious awareness and writing these down, you're letting go of them because it's name it, claim it, dump it.

00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:49.599
<v SPEAKER_00>So you have to bring it from the deep cell level.

00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:50.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:51.440
<v SPEAKER_01>I've done that repeatedly.

00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:51.920
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:52.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Repeatedly.

00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.320
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm really aware of all my crap.

00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.199
<v SPEAKER_03>There's many people who they haven't even done that.

00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:57.519
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:57.760
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay.

00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:58.480
<v SPEAKER_03>Step two.

00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Step two is that other yeah.

00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:12.000
<v SPEAKER_00>The step two is that other 25% that you really need a person who's trained in this to give you techniques, and there's several techniques uh uh that you do.

00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:23.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So step two will be try to access someone in your area, or you could contact Hope for Cancer, and you know, we'll work it out for you to have a Zoom call with one of our best practitioners.

00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.880
<v SPEAKER_00>But it it's um it sounds complicated, but it isn't.

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:35.440
<v SPEAKER_00>It just again, it needs you need to be present and you need to be honest with yourself.

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh, and let's name it, claim it.

00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:42.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, also wait, what that that second part, what is bringing that person in?

00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:44.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Why is that different?

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:48.559
<v SPEAKER_03>So that what what does that part do versus you writing it down, becoming conscious of it?

00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.119
<v SPEAKER_03>That that second part is more about talking through it.

00:37:51.920 --> 00:38:00.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Talking through it, that person will give you exercises and techniques that have been proven over time to help you let it be.

00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:02.800
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, there are many.

00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:03.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay.

00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:03.599
<v SPEAKER_03>Many.

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:04.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:12.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And one consult with a best practitioner is about 10 consults, patients with like a psychologist or a counselor.

00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:33.199
<v SPEAKER_01>I I found I that was actually that that was my trajectory as well, is that I when we moved to Park City, it's been almost 13 years, but that's when I went to the church and had a counselor and you know, and dumped everything that that I couldn't, uh that I because I was in survival mode for so long.

00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.199
<v SPEAKER_01>And I just dumped it all out.

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:36.559
<v SPEAKER_01>And it took months.

00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.880
<v SPEAKER_01>And one day she said to me, She said, Okay, you're a mensch.

00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:46.000
<v SPEAKER_01>She said, now she said, I want you to visualize just a big iron door.

00:38:46.480 --> 00:39:00.480
<v SPEAKER_01>And she said, and everything that you've just experienced, said, dealt with without, you know, anybody to support you, because no one could, you know, it wasn't to anyone's fault, but you were in it alone.

00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:08.079
<v SPEAKER_01>But look, look at what God has done, which you already know what he was up to, at least, you know, through the process of it all.

00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:11.440
<v SPEAKER_01>But now close that door and don't look back.

00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:15.679
<v SPEAKER_01>And you know, that at the time I thought, wow, that's really insensitive.

00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:25.119
<v SPEAKER_01>But I realized that was she knew when I was done with purging all the pain, all the emotion, all the challenges, all the frustrations.

00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.159
<v SPEAKER_01>And I had to move on.

00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:29.199
<v SPEAKER_01>And I moved on, and then I found EMDR.

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:37.920
<v SPEAKER_01>And because you, you know, at the time when you were doing and interviewing different people with different things for your other podcasts, and it really I did that.

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:40.239
<v SPEAKER_01>And then I, you know, went to something else.

00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:46.800
<v SPEAKER_01>And and and you know, there is that fine line because I don't like anything that's too woo-woo.

00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.039
<v SPEAKER_01>There's things I don't understand.

00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.400
<v SPEAKER_01>There's, you know, frequency and stuff like that I don't understand.

00:39:52.559 --> 00:40:00.079
<v SPEAKER_01>But when it comes to how God wants us to heal, I firmly believe there is no way to it but through it.

00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:12.239
<v SPEAKER_01>And I have always really protected his character with what I value when it comes to doing the work.

00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:19.039
<v SPEAKER_01>You know, I'm not going to take a drug and have a journey, even though I don't fault people that do it.

00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:33.039
<v SPEAKER_01>But I truly want to have the experience of my life that brings me to the best version of myself that I can stand before him and he knows that I valued who he was to me.

00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:34.800
<v SPEAKER_01>That means so much to me.

00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:36.960
<v SPEAKER_00>So we're talking about Marilyn.

00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.960
<v SPEAKER_00>What about like in a severe cancer patient?

00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:43.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And let me give you an example.

00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Kate from Australia.

00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:53.039
<v SPEAKER_00>She is thriving, entrepreneur, business, beautiful lady, great, uh, a three-year-old daughter.

00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Her husband leaves without writing a note or anything, disappears.

00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:58.239
<v SPEAKER_02>Wow.

00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.760
<v SPEAKER_00>What is that shock?

00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:00.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Right?

00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:01.840
<v SPEAKER_00>What am I gonna do now?

00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:10.320
<v SPEAKER_00>So she is diagnosed with the primary lung tumor, metastasis to the liver, and 75% of the bone.

00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:10.880
<v SPEAKER_02>Wow.

00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:11.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Metastasis.

00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:12.639
<v SPEAKER_00>She's stuck.

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.840
<v SPEAKER_00>The bones are to get you from point A to point B.

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:17.199
<v SPEAKER_03>The liver's anger.

00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.199
<v SPEAKER_03>Anger's probably very angry.

00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:19.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, anger.

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.199
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm a single mom now, I have a three-year-old, and I'm facing death in Australia.

00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.360
<v SPEAKER_00>They told her six to twelve months to live.

00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And so she finds hope for cancer, she comes to us, we work.

00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.679
<v SPEAKER_00>The first thing we did is work on the emotional spiritual.

00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And she wasn't even a believer.

00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, that was that was another threshold.

00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:45.920
<v unknown>Yeah.

00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:52.800
<v SPEAKER_00>And remember, lung primary, metastasis extensive to the liver, and 75% of the bones.

00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:53.440
<v SPEAKER_02>Wow.

00:41:53.920 --> 00:42:02.400
<v SPEAKER_00>So we talked, we did all this, and she set a goal that in 365 days she was gonna be cancer free.

00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:07.440
<v SPEAKER_00>She was gonna live for herself, but more importantly, for her three-year-old.

00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:08.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And guess what?

00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:09.840
<v SPEAKER_00>She was wrong.

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:11.840
<v SPEAKER_00>She broke it by three days.

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:13.840
<v SPEAKER_00>She was healed before the year.

00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:14.400
<v SPEAKER_03>Wow.

00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:15.199
<v SPEAKER_03>Three days.

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.760
<v SPEAKER_02>No, 362 days.

00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:19.440
<v SPEAKER_03>Oh, right.

00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.480
<v SPEAKER_03>She broke it by three days meeting, three days drive.

00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.599
<v SPEAKER_03>It was like, okay, wait a minute.

00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:24.639
<v SPEAKER_03>She wasn't diagnosed correctly.

00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:25.360
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, okay.

00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.599
<v SPEAKER_00>No, yeah, but 362 days, she was cancer free.

00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:30.079
<v SPEAKER_02>Wow.

00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:31.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So she's living her life.

00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:33.920
<v SPEAKER_00>She's still following her home program.

00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.480
<v SPEAKER_00>And then uh COVID comes.

00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:49.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And by this time, she had stopped like some of her maintenance therapies because she had a false sense of security, that she's fine now, you know, started with the vino a little bit, with the wine and other things.

00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And then she gets a COVID shot.

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:53.119
<v SPEAKER_00>She's in Australia.

00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.360
<v SPEAKER_00>She wanted to visit her mom in the UK.

00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:59.119
<v SPEAKER_00>They wouldn't let her out of Australia and into the UK.

00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:00.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And then she's in the UK.

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:02.159
<v SPEAKER_00>She comes back to Australia.

00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.719
<v SPEAKER_00>She coughs up a little blood, a little speck of blood, and calls me.

00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.760
<v SPEAKER_00>I said, Kate, uh, let's do a CT scan.

00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:10.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:16.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Gets a CT scan done in Australia, another lung tumor in a different location.

00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And I said, Kate, we have to scan the whole body, which she did.

00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:21.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Lungs were clear.

00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:26.639
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, uh, bones were clear, but again, now liver metastasis.

00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:28.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And guess what?

00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:29.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Ten brain tumors.

00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:30.320
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh my gosh.

00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:31.920
<v SPEAKER_00>Ten brain tumors.

00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.639
<v SPEAKER_00>So she says, I'm going back to Cancun.

00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:40.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And I thought to myself, from my medical perspective, oh, like, what am I going to do?

00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:41.440
<v SPEAKER_00>What are we going to do?

00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:42.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Ten brain tumors.

00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And she was neurologically intact.

00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:48.559
<v SPEAKER_00>No dizziness, no headaches, no poor vision.

00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:50.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And so she comes back, uh, gets comes to Cancun.

00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:57.920
<v SPEAKER_00>This is four years later from the initial diagnosis, almost five years.

00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:58.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Wow.

00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:03.519
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh the The short of the story is that Kate is cancer free again.

00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:05.199
<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:13.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And so this is two times that she had stage four lung cancer with metastasis to vital organs.

00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:15.599
<v SPEAKER_01>And her brain, her head's clear as well.

00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:16.559
<v SPEAKER_01>I mean, like nothing.

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.800
<v SPEAKER_03>So I mean we we know the COVID vaccine, I don't want to get this thing shut down, right?

00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.280
<v SPEAKER_03>But there's it's leading to turbocancers, right?

00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.119
<v SPEAKER_03>There's a lot of controversy here.

00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.519
<v SPEAKER_03>A lot we're gonna discover, discovering.

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:36.400
<v SPEAKER_03>So um I, you know, that played some role in it, but there was an emotional component that perhaps brought her back.

00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.960
<v SPEAKER_03>What was how did you unwind it?

00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:46.239
<v SPEAKER_00>We unwound it going back uh because she had been in they she found her husband, her husband.

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.480
<v SPEAKER_00>He was in the streets as a drug addict.

00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And that was part of the whole situation.

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Then she had a partner that didn't end well.

00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So all these stressful life events, sudden conflict shocks.

00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:05.679
<v SPEAKER_03>So she revisited some of these same angers and resentments, and yeah, okay.

00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:06.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:11.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So again, working on her behavioral, emotional, and spiritual transformation.

00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Now, Merrill Lee, she's closer to God.

00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And she brings the staff.

00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:24.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh it was actually bracelets with a little cross, just he's handing them to the nurses that she's known for four plus years, right?

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:26.800
<v SPEAKER_00>So that is transforming in her.

00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.320
<v SPEAKER_03>And that's the S, the B E S, you know, the emotional.

00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:31.519
<v SPEAKER_03>We talked about the spiritual.

00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:32.400
<v SPEAKER_03>What's the T?

00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:33.039
<v SPEAKER_03>I forget already.

00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:33.840
<v SPEAKER_03>Transformation.

00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:34.800
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, yeah.

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.519
<v SPEAKER_03>Well, but I mean, so that brings the transformation.

00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:38.800
<v SPEAKER_03>That brings the transformation.

00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:40.400
<v SPEAKER_03>And you watch people transform.

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.679
<v SPEAKER_03>That was a great example of that walking somebody through.

00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:47.519
<v SPEAKER_01>And and there being, you know, only you have to feel it to heal it, right?

00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.079
<v SPEAKER_01>You have to you have to go through that process.

00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:55.840
<v SPEAKER_00>And that wasn't to be little your stresses, Dan's stresses, my stresses, and everyone watching.

00:45:56.079 --> 00:46:01.920
<v SPEAKER_00>But this is a prime example of someone in that dire situation.

00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:07.119
<v SPEAKER_01>Amazing.

00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:08.079
<v SPEAKER_01>It is really amazing.

00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.079
<v SPEAKER_03>Let's tell the story now, right?

00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:22.000
<v SPEAKER_03>There, your father was um obviously a pivotal part of how you started these cancer clinics because you saw what they did to him, and you know, you were gonna do it differently.

00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.400
<v SPEAKER_03>This story uh has to be told.

00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:29.920
<v SPEAKER_03>So um I where did we hear this story first?

00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.000
<v SPEAKER_03>In that same patio situation.

00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.119
<v SPEAKER_01>No, we knew your we knew it before because we had known him and Marcy before that.

00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:37.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.360
<v SPEAKER_01>But we we heard you speak somewhere when we first met.

00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:42.639
<v SPEAKER_01>I don't remember.

00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:43.840
<v SPEAKER_01>It was in a conference.

00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.880
<v SPEAKER_03>I'm gonna say it this way tell the story about how you met your wife.

00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:48.400
<v SPEAKER_03>I'm gonna say that again, yeah.

00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:54.719
<v SPEAKER_03>And that's gonna fill in the gaps to why this again was really transformative of who you are.

00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:55.360
<v SPEAKER_03>But go ahead.

00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.920
<v SPEAKER_00>And I made that story public in this book.

00:46:58.159 --> 00:46:58.480
<v SPEAKER_00>In that book.

00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.000
<v SPEAKER_00>In that book, I made it public.

00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.599
<v SPEAKER_00>So I had just opened up this.

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, that book was 19, 2019.

00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:04.719
<v SPEAKER_00>2019.

00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.440
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, we knew you before that, so it wasn't public then.

00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:08.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes.

00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So I opened the Tijuana Treatment Center in two in the year 2000.

00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:23.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Three months after I opened, this beautiful blue-eyed little girl, six years of age, comes in with her mom with a diagnosis of leukemia.

00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:36.639
<v SPEAKER_00>They're from Illinois in the US, and she was the mom was told that Whitney had a 50-50 chance of survival with chemotherapy and a bone marrow transplant at six years old.

00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:41.760
<v SPEAKER_00>If she survived, no chance of having children because of the therapy.

00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:51.280
<v SPEAKER_00>So the mom didn't want this for her daughter, and divine conditions brought her to Tijuana.

00:47:51.920 --> 00:48:02.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Marcy had never left the US, didn't know where Tijuana was, and she got she gets there, and um wow, it was so beautiful.

00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:03.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So many things happened.

00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.719
<v SPEAKER_03>How many years was the clinic open at this point?

00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:07.599
<v SPEAKER_03>Three months.

00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:08.320
<v SPEAKER_03>Three months.

00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:09.280
<v SPEAKER_03>Did you say that?

00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:09.679
<v SPEAKER_03>I forgot.

00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:10.559
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, three months.

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:11.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Three months.

00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.800
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, and this beautiful little girl comes walking in with that diagnosis.

00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:28.239
<v SPEAKER_00>That diagnosis, and I had to put a central venous catheter to give her the IVs because her arms were so fragile and thin, I couldn't get a vein, nor the nurses, so we put in a central venous uh catheter.

00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:36.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And one time, Diana Marilyn, I was giving her a blood transfusion because you know, leukemia that can happen.

00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:43.440
<v SPEAKER_00>And so uh the donor name has to be on the on the transfusion bag.

00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And the donor's name was Jesus.

00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:53.199
<v SPEAKER_00>The little girl, I didn't know this till I walked her down the aisle uh so many years later.

00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:04.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, so Whitney, when she in the wedding, she said, When I saw that bag, I thought I was getting the blood of Jesus.

00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:06.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Jesus.

00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.800
<v SPEAKER_00>I was getting blood, the blood of Jesus, and I knew that I would be fine.

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:11.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Wow.

00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:14.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And so in that mind, I didn't even know that, but did you?

00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:15.440
<v SPEAKER_01>No, I didn't hear that part.

00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:23.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So again, talking about the emotional and spiritual, she saw hope in her creator, in Jesus.

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And so she knew that she was going to be healed.

00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:35.840
<v SPEAKER_03>So whether by the way, one thing I noticed when I could never help people that I couldn't re-establish hope in, that it shows you that hope heals.

00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:36.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Right.

00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:41.599
<v SPEAKER_03>People that I couldn't get hope in, it's like, you know, absolutely it seems like everything went bad.

00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:45.679
<v SPEAKER_03>The moment you can re-establish hope, that's right, the body starts healing.

00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:46.239
<v SPEAKER_00>That's right.

00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And like Marilyn said, no one can take our hope away but ourselves.

00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:50.559
<v SPEAKER_02>That's right.

00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:57.119
<v SPEAKER_00>The doctor can, the oncologist can, the lap test can't, the MRI can't, the CTs can, can't.

00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.840
<v SPEAKER_00>It's us, and that's that's within us, right?

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:00.239
<v SPEAKER_00>To nurture.

00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:00.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Absolutely.

00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:06.159
<v SPEAKER_01>And I think we too, though, have to get away from what we're fed.

00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:09.039
<v SPEAKER_01>That's that or change what we're eating.

00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:09.519
<v SPEAKER_01>Right.

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:20.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Change what you're eating because we're digesting things that God absolutely, in in, you know, figuratively and obviously physically, we're not supposed to be.

00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.360
<v SPEAKER_01>And that is really affecting our mindset.

00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:44.079
<v SPEAKER_01>And you hear so many stories, and that, and then sometimes we attach to those stories, or we think we're not worthy of the best potential for our health, or something, because there's been some lie or some disconnect or some trauma that has affected our hope for the world around us.

00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:53.760
<v SPEAKER_01>And we tend, and I know this is true of myself or was for many years, is just becoming, you know, like I have to protect and defend myself because I have nobody else to protect and defend me.

00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:06.960
<v SPEAKER_01>And so I'm I'm I'm always, you know, I'm in that, I'm like that, you know, I'm in that glass jar, like just walling myself off because if I don't look out for myself, ultimately there's no one else that will look out for me the same way.

00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.039
<v SPEAKER_00>One thing I see in a lot of our patients is lack of self-love.

00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:14.880
<v SPEAKER_00>We have to learn to love ourselves, right?

00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:15.199
<v SPEAKER_02>Yep.

00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:27.280
<v SPEAKER_00>We had a patient that they stayed at a hotel in Cancun because that's an outpatient facility, and they wanted to move from that hotel because they said they didn't she didn't deserve that.

00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:28.320
<v SPEAKER_00>It was too nice.

00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And I said, Yes, you deserve this.

00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:32.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's part of your package.

00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:33.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Stay there.

00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.880
<v SPEAKER_00>But she insisted, insisted, and she was traumatized.

00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.119
<v SPEAKER_03>And right away you knew, okay, this is gonna be a problem.

00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:40.079
<v SPEAKER_00>This is a problem.

00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:49.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So we exactly, and it was three, four days later, we had to move her to another hotel, which was nice, but not as nice as the one uh that she was in.

00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:50.719
<v SPEAKER_01>Very sad, right?

00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.159
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah, but irrelevant.

00:51:52.239 --> 00:52:05.039
<v SPEAKER_03>But literally, you knew right away this is the thing that's going to keep us from helping her, unless we can change whatever route is causing that for her not to love herself that much, and possibly even hate herself.

00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:05.679
<v SPEAKER_00>That's right.

00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:06.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, yes, yes, yeah.

00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh so Whitney, the six-year-old.

00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I was gonna say, get back to the story.

00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:12.000
<v SPEAKER_00>This is no part of the story.

00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:13.760
<v SPEAKER_00>You didn't even hear the go ahead and tell it.

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.000
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, I'm not sure if I should just say the ending now.

00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:25.199
<v SPEAKER_00>She's 30 years of age now, as of uh this filming in 2025, and uh she has four children, uh, three boys and a girl.

00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.920
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm a granddad of them, of course.

00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.400
<v SPEAKER_03>They told her chances of dying were great, but never have children.

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:35.440
<v SPEAKER_03>And he married her mom.

00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:37.039
<v SPEAKER_03>Mary Marcy.

00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:41.199
<v SPEAKER_03>Her mom, right, who was CEO of Hope for Cancer.

00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:46.239
<v SPEAKER_03>And now she is the spiritual uh what um well, she runs your spiritual party.

00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.000
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it's just God's design.

00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:53.280
<v SPEAKER_00>I truly think so.

00:52:53.440 --> 00:53:05.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I think Whitney was the conduit for Marcy and I to come together because Marcy has walked side by side with me in this tough journey, as you said at the beginning.

00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:10.800
<v SPEAKER_00>We've had so many attacks, continue to have them, too many to even talk about.

00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:21.840
<v SPEAKER_03>Uh if y'all knew when you're up against this, because the enemy uses this to derail people's lives, you're gonna face it, and you have, man.

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.960
<v SPEAKER_03>You've uh you know, you're up against some big, big, big demonic things.

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:32.239
<v SPEAKER_01>You know what you need now next on your staff is a CPO, a chief prayer officer.

00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:32.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Oh, yes.

00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:33.920
<v SPEAKER_00>We should give you ours.

00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:34.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:37.440
<v SPEAKER_03>She's amazing.

00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:37.679
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:41.199
<v SPEAKER_01>But seriously, because the battle is spiritual.

00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:43.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And the battle is spiritual.

00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:49.360
<v SPEAKER_00>And I want to also talk about uh the prophecy I had then, if you remember, right?

00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:54.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Because this is why, with all these attacks, it's okay.

00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:03.599
<v SPEAKER_00>I have faith and I know that God is with us, He's protecting us, and He has that veil that's uh covering us, right?

00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:15.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Because his prophecy said, uh given to me in a church in Texas, that I will have a healing center, not in the U.S., where many will come to find health and healing.

00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.280
<v SPEAKER_00>And that has happened.

00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:26.079
<v SPEAKER_00>He said in the prophecy that I would treat kings, presidents, prime ministers, famous people, common people, all of them will come.

00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:32.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And we're blessed now at Health for Cancer to have patients from over, I think it's 40, 45 countries that come to us.

00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh how the story has changed.

00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:48.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, maybe this is too personal to say, but I want to say it that in the SNEO administration in the US, they've reached out to me five times for an important position in the health sector.

00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:54.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh whatever happens with that, more importantly, is that they know what I'm doing.

00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:57.760
<v SPEAKER_00>They know what I do more than I know what I do now.

00:54:57.920 --> 00:54:58.960
<v SPEAKER_00>They've resourced it.

00:54:59.039 --> 00:54:59.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.000
<v SPEAKER_00>So it tells me that their mindset is shifting.

00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.039
<v SPEAKER_00>They want to look at integrative oncology.

00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:05.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Praise God.

00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:06.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:22.400
<v SPEAKER_00>And cancer prevention is on the bottom left-hand corner of that oracter of no significance, right?

00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:32.159
<v SPEAKER_03>Well, because big pharma's driving all the money towards the pill, if you will, the solution that's never going to exist unless you prevent and get to the causes.

00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:32.960
<v SPEAKER_03>That's what we're talking about.

00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:37.679
<v SPEAKER_01>But what it's doing is creating more symptoms, that they're creating more drugs to manage the symptoms.

00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:38.880
<v SPEAKER_01>It's it's a vicious cycle.

00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:43.119
<v SPEAKER_03>No, I mean, even talking about it, it's like I uh, you know, we bring it on, right?

00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:46.400
<v SPEAKER_03>It's like because they hate if we even talk about this, right?

00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.559
<v SPEAKER_03>Because cancer is I say billion, is it a trillion dollar industry?

00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:51.440
<v SPEAKER_03>It's a trillion dollar industry.

00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:52.719
<v SPEAKER_03>It's a trillion-dollar industry.

00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:53.199
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.559
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, uh, it's which is again what you're up against.

00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:57.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Yes.

00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:58.880
<v SPEAKER_03>And bringing hope.

00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:00.960
<v SPEAKER_03>They don't like that.

00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:12.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And now, Dan and Marilyn, I want to say that in this time in history in the world, hope for cancer is in the forefront of integrative oncology.

00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:42.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, we have recently introduced a targeted nanoparticle technology called uh nano genic nanogenics, which what we're doing is we're taking a peptide platform and embedding into that uh nanoparticles, and now cancer cells are selectively uh absorbing and taking in these uh this nanoparticle technology.

00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:46.960
<v SPEAKER_00>This is not my development, this is the development of Dr.

00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Matthew Whiteside PhD uh in Tennessee.

00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:54.079
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh it's amazing what we're doing.

00:56:54.239 --> 00:57:08.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Cancer cells have what's called um a permeability effect, an absorption and permeability effect, and so it's enabling uh cancer cells to take in this molecule, internalize it.

00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:10.239
<v SPEAKER_00>It's like a Trojan horse.

00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:27.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Once inside the cancer cell, the payload is released and it triggers cancer cell death in two pathways by triggering uh cell cycle arrest, which means uh affecting the division, the mitosis, the cell.

00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.639
<v SPEAKER_03>The ability of them to duplicate, which cancer cells duplicate like this.

00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:36.960
<v SPEAKER_03>Now, um, you said it's because cancer cells are more permeable than regular cells, so therefore it doesn't affect regular cells.

00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.039
<v SPEAKER_03>Exactly, but the ability to permeate.

00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:39.280
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay.

00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Very selective, targeted, no side effects.

00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh we have to detox always, right?

00:57:46.320 --> 00:58:00.239
<v SPEAKER_00>As we're doing this therapy, enhance cell health, cell absorption, cell elimination, and cell structure, um, also the transmembrane potential of the cells, the energy component has to be maintained.

00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's a combination of the whole for cancer therapies with this nanogenic technology.

00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:07.920
<v SPEAKER_03>A lot of my work is about the cell membranes.

00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:12.800
<v SPEAKER_03>My R number two, you have to regenerate cell membranes to detox, but to have health.

00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:14.800
<v SPEAKER_03>Life and death begins on the membranes, right?

00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:18.639
<v SPEAKER_03>And when we talk about thoughts, fears, everything, it affects the membranes, actually.

00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:23.280
<v SPEAKER_03>You know, your hormone receptors are the integral membrane proteins on these membranes, right?

00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:24.559
<v SPEAKER_03>And everything's membranes.

00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.920
<v SPEAKER_03>So, you know, it doesn't surprise me that this has a lot to do with membranes.

00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:31.760
<v SPEAKER_03>That's right, you know, and the health of membranes.

00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:34.079
<v SPEAKER_03>That's one of the big things how I got my life back.

00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:40.800
<v SPEAKER_03>But um so I one of my questions was what are some of the new breakthroughs that are happening right now?

00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:41.679
<v SPEAKER_03>That's one.

00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:45.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Are there any others that you're this is a significant breakthrough?

00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:49.679
<v SPEAKER_00>And already we're seeing cancer tumors collapse upon itself.

00:58:49.840 --> 00:59:10.480
<v SPEAKER_00>We're uh it's given intravenously, it's given around the tumor, and we have imaging already, how the tumor is absorbing these nanoparticles, also an enema, and for brain tumors, we could do it intertecally, that means into the spinal fluids, so it could get up past the blood brain barrier.

00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:12.079
<v SPEAKER_00>So amazing technology.

00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:12.960
<v SPEAKER_03>Two questions.

00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:16.320
<v SPEAKER_03>Number one, what cancers have you seen great success?

00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:20.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Are there any that haven't been uh successful with it?

00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:28.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Um, and also have you had a lot of pressure because as soon as things start to work, then here comes the pressure.

00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.880
<v SPEAKER_03>So I I know I just asked a lot of things there.

00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:42.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's why I mentioned this when you said about all the attacks, because we need to pray that this is protected and uh you know we're doing it uh in the best way possible.

00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And um prayer, right?

00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:48.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Because we're not going to keep this away from patients that can be.

00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:52.159
<v SPEAKER_03>Well, we'll put our CPO on it because it's significant.

00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.119
<v SPEAKER_03>So what what has been the like what cancers successful?

00:59:56.239 --> 01:00:06.159
<v SPEAKER_00>Um cancers that are more aggressive, pancreatic cancers, some uh triple negative breast cancers, colorectal cancer.

01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:16.639
<v SPEAKER_00>It's really not cancer specific because of the microarchitecture of cancer cells, that permeability that I discussed.

01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:22.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And also secondarily, it upregulates the immune system's ability to attack the cancer cell.

01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:29.760
<v SPEAKER_03>On the uh, you know, on the scale of some of these new cancer treatments are very expensive because of the process, right?

01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:31.760
<v SPEAKER_03>And there's not much you can do about that.

01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:32.400
<v SPEAKER_03>Where is it?

01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:33.840
<v SPEAKER_03>Is it low, medium, high?

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:34.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I would say it's medium.

01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:35.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay.

01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:35.760
<v SPEAKER_00>It's medium.

01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:36.480
<v SPEAKER_00>Not bad, yeah.

01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:37.599
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, and nothing.

01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:39.440
<v SPEAKER_03>Because if anything, it will get cheaper.

01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:40.079
<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:40.400
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay.

01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:40.639
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:44.639
<v SPEAKER_00>And nothing in comparison to chemotherapy, oh, yeah, okay.

01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.519
<v SPEAKER_00>Checkpoint inhibitors or anything like that, right?

01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:49.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So we're really excited about this.

01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:51.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, it's a work in progress.

01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:59.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh the first question you asked me about what type of cancer is important because we're tech testing biomarkers.

01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:05.440
<v SPEAKER_00>We're doing liquid biopsies and looking at biomarkers, which are receptors on cancer cells.

01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:11.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So two people may have the same cancer type, but they have different biomarkers, right?

01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.639
<v SPEAKER_00>We're brothers, and although we like blue all the time, but we're different, right?

01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>We have some biological things.

01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.679
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, and it stems from my colorblindness, right?

01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.880
<v SPEAKER_03>It's like, yeah, I can see blues and yellows really well, right?

01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.760
<v SPEAKER_03>So it's like I I can match it other than if I go off color and she's not around.

01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:31.119
<v SPEAKER_03>I'm I'm I'm screwed.

01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:32.719
<v SPEAKER_03>I stick to blues.

01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:34.800
<v SPEAKER_03>I'm not gonna wear yellows.

01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:37.039
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's like I'm pretty much trapped in blues.

01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.360
<v SPEAKER_00>So what does he what is he wearing now, Marilyn?

01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:40.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Is that blue or yellow?

01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:41.280
<v SPEAKER_01>Oh, he's in blue.

01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:41.679
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:43.199
<v SPEAKER_01>I'm colorblind.

01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:44.639
<v SPEAKER_01>He got dressed this morning.

01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:44.960
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah.

01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:46.559
<v SPEAKER_03>I'm a big boy now.

01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:46.800
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:50.639
<v SPEAKER_03>No, I can only dress myself if it's these kind of colors.

01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.880
<v SPEAKER_03>If you start throwing colors in, forget it.

01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:53.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah.

01:01:53.440 --> 01:02:01.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So looking at these biomarkers, we can make this is personalized precision integrative oncology.

01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.320
<v SPEAKER_00>One doesn't fit all.

01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:05.039
<v SPEAKER_00>What's the saying?

01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.519
<v SPEAKER_00>You know, one size fits all, but one size doesn't fit all.

01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:18.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:18.800
<v SPEAKER_03>That's okay.

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Now are you doing this treatment, Tijuana and Cancone?

01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.559
<v SPEAKER_00>Right now we are doing it only in Cancun.

01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:26.639
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh working out some of the tweaks.

01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.159
<v SPEAKER_00>We'll roll it out into one of our Is there uh a waiting list for this?

01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:30.960
<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, how many?

01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:32.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, yes.

01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:40.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Um God has blessed us, and you know, unfortunately, as you mentioned before, the incidence of cancer is only increasing.

01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:45.280
<v SPEAKER_00>Younger patients, patients that were in remission coming out of remission, the turbo cancer.

01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:46.639
<v SPEAKER_00>This is real.

01:02:46.880 --> 01:03:00.480
<v SPEAKER_00>I mean, I have colleagues all over the world, and I just came back from a two-week trip to China, uh, visiting colleagues there, prestigious hospitals, research centers, and even there, they're saying the same thing.

01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.039
<v SPEAKER_00>My colleagues in Japan and Germany, everywhere.

01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:08.559
<v SPEAKER_03>I I want to talk about that um at risk, but I mean, this is a big problem, right?

01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:16.559
<v SPEAKER_03>So uh I'm working with a group, it is a new term, but I'm working with a group out of Europe, just um it's called spike protein persistence, right?

01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:34.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Where they're realizing that people even and this probably won't get uh edited out, but even people that just had several COVID um, you know, COVID several times that they get put into this persistence of making spike protein, obviously vaccinated people.

01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:41.599
<v SPEAKER_03>And uh that's a problem because they're finding these spike proteins in our senescent cells, which we know already drive cancer.

01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:49.119
<v SPEAKER_03>And then it leads to a lot of dysautonomia, meaning weird symptoms, can't figure it out, fatigue, thyroid issues, et cetera.

01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:55.039
<v SPEAKER_03>And then there's another level as they persistently make these spike proteins of these turbo cancers, right?

01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.239
<v SPEAKER_03>And what what's your you're probably deeper in this than I am.

01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:08.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Um, I'm not sure if I'm deeper, but what I do know is that science now has shown as best as possible that everyone has the spike protein.

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:16.719
<v SPEAKER_00>Whether you were vaccinated or had COVID or think you never had COVID, we all have the spike protein, right?

01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:21.920
<v SPEAKER_00>So I personally uh recommend and I wear a nicotine patch.

01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:24.079
<v SPEAKER_00>I uh I wear 3.5 millimeter proteins.

01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:29.599
<v SPEAKER_03>Because it chases the spike protein off the receptors, which you know, because they bind the nicotine receptors.

01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:36.719
<v SPEAKER_03>But what this group found out or is finding out is that um unfortunately they they're in senescent cells.

01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:39.840
<v SPEAKER_03>And and they're you know, there they are, right?

01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:44.719
<v SPEAKER_03>So senescent cells are saying this for people, you know what senescent cells are, and so do you.

01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.559
<v SPEAKER_03>But they're cells that live too long.

01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.599
<v SPEAKER_03>They do lead to cancer, but they lead to aging prematurely.

01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:51.119
<v SPEAKER_03>They're called zombie cells.

01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:55.840
<v SPEAKER_03>And they found that wow, this is where a lot of these spike proteins end up.

01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:05.920
<v SPEAKER_03>And that's explained some things because you know, like Raphael, he had does an NK treatment, people get very sick after they kill a lot of these senescent cells, outcomes spike protein, right?

01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:10.960
<v SPEAKER_03>So fasting kills senescent cells, gets rid of them, outcomes spike protein.

01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:15.280
<v SPEAKER_03>So we're having to deal with these spike proteins, even as we detox people.

01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.480
<v SPEAKER_00>But as you said, then it's never one thing, right?

01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:23.119
<v SPEAKER_00>So it's a combination following all the detox regimen.

01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.519
<v SPEAKER_00>I recently wrote a book that will be soon uh published within the next three weeks.

01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:33.039
<v SPEAKER_00>It's called Eleven Integrative Hallmarks of Cancer, which could be 11 integrative hallmarks of the case.

01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:35.920
<v SPEAKER_03>So by the time this airs, you people can get that maybe.

01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:37.840
<v SPEAKER_03>So where will they be able to find it?

01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.000
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh they'll be able to find it on Amazon.

01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:40.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Hold it up.

01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:41.840
<v SPEAKER_03>Hold it up.

01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:46.960
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, cancer um outsmarted outsmart it.

01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:53.360
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, 11 integrative hallmarks of cancer to minimize risk and optimize health.

01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:57.440
<v SPEAKER_00>So this is a lot of what you talk about, a lot of what I found.

01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:59.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And basically, in this integrative hallmark.

01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:07.840
<v SPEAKER_00>We're looking at four main categories: systemic dysregulation, habits, and behavior.

01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:18.000
<v SPEAKER_00>We're looking at environmental and emotional influences, and we're looking at uh emotional and lifestyle imbalances.

01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:24.719
<v SPEAKER_00>So getting this, I wrote in the back, most people think cancer as something that strikes without warning.

01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.360
<v SPEAKER_00>But what if it's more predictable than we realize?

01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:39.519
<v SPEAKER_00>What if your sleep, your food, your environment, even the mindset was quietly laying the groundwork for cancer to grow?

01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:46.559
<v SPEAKER_00>And what if actions within your control can prevent you from uh getting cancer?

01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:48.880
<v SPEAKER_03>That's when people read that part again.

01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:51.599
<v SPEAKER_03>Because my wife, the first part freaked my wife out.

01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:52.880
<v SPEAKER_03>I'm just being honest with you.

01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.559
<v SPEAKER_01>Meaning the first part was I must be getting better because that didn't freak out.

01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:57.840
<v SPEAKER_01>That's great.

01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Because I'm sitting here thinking, you know, cancers makes itself known ahead of time.

01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:03.519
<v SPEAKER_03>Sleep patterns, isn't it?

01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:05.199
<v SPEAKER_03>Because I thought she was going through a checklist.

01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:06.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, okay, my sleep's not as good anymore.

01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:08.320
<v SPEAKER_03>Okay, good.

01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:14.960
<v SPEAKER_00>So what if actions within your control can prevent that from happening?

01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:17.039
<v SPEAKER_00>But is that from getting cancer?

01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:20.239
<v SPEAKER_00>And I strongly say absolutely yes.

01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:20.960
<v SPEAKER_00>I agree.

01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:24.079
<v SPEAKER_00>As I mentioned, my father had prostate cancer.

01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:27.199
<v SPEAKER_00>That doesn't mean I'm doomed to have prostate cancer, right?

01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:33.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And so this is a Hallmark book that marks the 25th anniversary of Hophrey Cancer.

01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.199
<v SPEAKER_00>So please, please read this, give it to your friends.

01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:38.719
<v SPEAKER_00>And working together.

01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:40.239
<v SPEAKER_00>Can they find it on Amazon?

01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:40.800
<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, great.

01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:42.000
<v SPEAKER_00>We'll find it on Amazon.

01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:42.320
<v SPEAKER_00>Yes.

01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.519
<v SPEAKER_00>So um, yeah, it's within our control.

01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:46.400
<v SPEAKER_00>Isn't that beautiful, man?

01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:47.360
<v SPEAKER_00>It is beautiful.

01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:49.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, I like that I targeted you there.

01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:51.440
<v SPEAKER_01>Yeah, yeah, we'll get you next time.

01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:58.880
<v SPEAKER_01>He's he's the I'm I think I'm the low-lying fruit, but you know, that's another conversation.

01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:11.679
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh so so this this senison cells that we talked about in the spike protein, this is very interesting because it it enables us to realize that everything is important, right?

01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:12.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Everything is important.

01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:19.119
<v SPEAKER_00>And now in 2025, we're exposed to so much, as we all know, Dan, right?

01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:25.760
<v SPEAKER_00>So we have to be proactive today, not mañana, as they say in Mexico, right?

01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:28.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah today is when you have to make your choices, right?

01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:40.000
<v SPEAKER_03>You know, and that's you know, obviously part of my calling, right, is waking people up to the fact that the toxins that are coming into their what they're using on their bodies and their personal care products, right?

01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:45.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Uh literally a teaspoon of weight of plastic in human brains on autopsies, right?

01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:50.720
<v SPEAKER_03>Every sex organ, they're finding massive amounts of plastics, which carry chemicals that we know cause cancer.

01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:52.720
<v SPEAKER_03>You know, it's in air fresheners.

01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:54.720
<v SPEAKER_03>You know how many cancer-causing chemicals?

01:08:54.800 --> 01:09:01.600
<v SPEAKER_03>And again, not just plug-ins, which I'm very against, but you know, fragrances that are in, you know, what we're washing our clothes with.

01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:04.800
<v SPEAKER_03>People are pulling, I mean, yeah, people have to wake up to this, right?

01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:06.239
<v SPEAKER_01>Christmas trees hanging in cars.

01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:07.840
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, Christmas trees in cars.

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:09.439
<v SPEAKER_03>People think this stuff's benign.

01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:10.239
<v SPEAKER_03>It's not.

01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.199
<v SPEAKER_03>This stuff is massively overloading.

01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:16.560
<v SPEAKER_03>I just, I, I, and the analogy I give is a bucket filling up.

01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:21.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Some people genetically have bigger buckets, okay, but we all are filling up so rapidly.

01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:28.159
<v SPEAKER_03>You add the emotional components to this, that bucket overflows, triggered, and now we end up with a diagnosis.

01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:30.960
<v SPEAKER_00>Because there's very few people like George Burns.

01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:32.640
<v SPEAKER_00>George Burns lived to be a hundred.

01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:33.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Did everything wrong.

01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:34.560
<v SPEAKER_03>Did everything wrong.

01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:35.359
<v SPEAKER_03>But you know what?

01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:36.159
<v SPEAKER_03>But I argue with that.

01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:39.039
<v SPEAKER_03>George Burns grew up in a different generation than we did.

01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:51.199
<v SPEAKER_03>If George Burns did everything that George Burns did and was exposed to the pesticides, the plastics, the fragrances, I mean, all these chemicals that weren't in George Burns' life, George Burns would not have lived as long as he did.

01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:52.239
<v SPEAKER_03>To the point, though.

01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:53.439
<v SPEAKER_03>He had some great genetics, right?

01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:53.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Right.

01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:54.319
<v SPEAKER_00>That's the thing.

01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:56.560
<v SPEAKER_00>There's something called genetic constitution.

01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And some of us are blessed with strong genetic constitution.

01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:04.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Others have a moderate, and others have a low genetic bucket.

01:10:04.560 --> 01:10:05.840
<v SPEAKER_03>The bucket, the stress bucket.

01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:07.520
<v SPEAKER_03>Some people have a bigger stress bucket.

01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:07.840
<v SPEAKER_03>That's right.

01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.439
<v SPEAKER_03>They can handle more emotional stress, more physical, more chemical stressors.

01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:13.279
<v SPEAKER_03>What did he do a lot?

01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:14.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Laughter.

01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:14.319
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:16.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Everybody laughed.

01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:17.119
<v SPEAKER_03>He loved life.

01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:18.319
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, see how that's the thing.

01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:19.760
<v SPEAKER_03>You just she doesn't laugh at my jokes.

01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:21.840
<v SPEAKER_03>I kids think I'm really funny.

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.039
<v SPEAKER_03>God's really funny, Mom.

01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:24.159
<v SPEAKER_03>It's like, you know, no laughter.

01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.720
<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna have to tell you some of my jokes so you can repeat them too.

01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:39.520
<v SPEAKER_00>So in in this book, Hope for Cancer, I asked my a hundred and my grandmother was 103, my maternal grandmother 103 when she passed away.

01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:44.399
<v SPEAKER_00>At 95, I asked her, Grandma, what are your three secrets to longevity?

01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:47.439
<v SPEAKER_00>And it's on page 298 of this book.

01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:55.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh she was 95 on no medications, and she died at 103 by a medical mistake.

01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:01.119
<v SPEAKER_00>She said, one, eat three meals a day at the same time.

01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:08.560
<v SPEAKER_00>And she had no education, she had 26 pregnancies, 12 living, you know, live birth.

01:11:08.960 --> 01:11:10.239
<v SPEAKER_00>So that's what she thought.

01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:12.720
<v SPEAKER_00>That's what she did, and it worked for her, right?

01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:15.760
<v SPEAKER_00>The second one then was be in bed by 9 p.m.

01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:20.720
<v SPEAKER_00>And so now I think science has shown that between 10 p.m.

01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:22.159
<v SPEAKER_00>and 2 a.m.

01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:27.359
<v SPEAKER_00>is when the body heals, recovers, restores, regenerates, and detoxes.

01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:28.319
<v SPEAKER_02>Yeah.

01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:32.880
<v SPEAKER_00>And her third secret to longevity, a four-letter word.

01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:33.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Love.

01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:34.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Love.

01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:36.319
<v SPEAKER_00>And that's what she was.

01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:37.600
<v SPEAKER_00>She was pure love.

01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:39.039
<v SPEAKER_03>That's amazing.

01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:39.439
<v SPEAKER_03>Right.

01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:40.079
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah.

01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:41.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Makes so much sense.

01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:42.399
<v SPEAKER_03>Absolutely beautiful.

01:11:42.960 --> 01:12:08.159
<v SPEAKER_00>I wrote something that I want to read to conclude from my part the podcast, unless uh Diane or Marilyn, you have any questions, but um I want to tell all of you that if you're listening and walking through pain, whether physical, emotional, or spiritual, I want to remind you that pain isn't the end of the story.

01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.039
<v SPEAKER_00>It's the beginning of your purpose.

01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:22.079
<v SPEAKER_00>Healing starts when we stop asking what's wrong with me and start asking, what is my body and soul trying to tell me?

01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:33.199
<v SPEAKER_00>When we release that emotional weight we've carried, we make space for hope, for healing, and for purpose to rise.

01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:37.039
<v SPEAKER_00>The body is a miraculous instrument of God.

01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:47.199
<v SPEAKER_00>And when we align spirit, mind, and body, true healing is not only possible, it's inevitable.

01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:53.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I wanted to leave all your listeners with that because um it was very profound.

01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:54.479
<v SPEAKER_00>I don't know where they came from.

01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:57.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Well, I do know it came from from God, right?

01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:03.199
<v SPEAKER_00>Giving me these words to share with you, with myself, my family, and all your audience.

01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.039
<v SPEAKER_03>I I don't even have to wrap it up.

01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:14.720
<v SPEAKER_03>It's so funny how God works because my brain was sitting here thinking, how possibly do I wrap up everything that you just taught us, right?

01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:16.239
<v SPEAKER_03>And we talked about.

01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:18.720
<v SPEAKER_03>And and that wrapped it up.

01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:21.439
<v SPEAKER_03>I mean, so perfectly, because I wasn't meant to wrap it up.

01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:22.000
<v SPEAKER_03>You were.

01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:23.439
<v SPEAKER_02>So I can't add anything together.

01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:24.319
<v SPEAKER_02>Thank you.

01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:24.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Dr.

01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:31.119
<v SPEAKER_03>Tony Jimenez, how do people call, contact Hope for Cancer, your clinics?

01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:35.359
<v SPEAKER_03>Give that information first because I know that I know this that I know this.

01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:40.159
<v SPEAKER_03>If people found this and they're listening to this right now, they were meant to be here.

01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:41.039
<v SPEAKER_03>Absolutely.

01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:42.000
<v SPEAKER_03>Where do they go?

01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:52.399
<v SPEAKER_00>No one that walks through the doors of hope for cancer is there because it's a coincidence, or it's it's divinely ordained.

01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:53.119
<v SPEAKER_00>I know that.

01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:54.159
<v SPEAKER_00>And I have many stories.

01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:55.840
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, we felt that when we were there.

01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:59.760
<v SPEAKER_00>And uh first I encourage all of you to get this book.

01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:15.039
<v SPEAKER_00>And lives uh have been and will continue to be transformed because this book is is is based on divine principles and then on my 30 plus years of working in integrative oncology.

01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.039
<v SPEAKER_00>Hopeforcancer.com.

01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:21.199
<v SPEAKER_00>The number four, hopeforcancer.com.

01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.880
<v SPEAKER_03>Yeah, number four, hope number four cancer dot com.

01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:31.119
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh go to the website, read it, educate yourself, call our admissions counselors.

01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:40.239
<v SPEAKER_00>We have a great admissions team with two medical doctors that will review your records and make a a proposed treatment plan, and that's sent to you.

01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:44.319
<v SPEAKER_00>Everything is black and white, there's nothing murky or hidden.

01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:49.520
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh we do what we say we're gonna do at the time that we tell you we're going to do it.

01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:50.640
<v SPEAKER_00>Uh uh.

01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:56.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Be in prayer and fast if you wish, and um take the next step.

01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:10.880
<v SPEAKER_00>Cancer is seldom a medical emergency, so there's time to pray, there's time to get a second and third opinion, and come to us knowing full well that you are coming for healing.

01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:20.960
<v SPEAKER_00>And I didn't say many other new therapies, but we are really on the cusp of therapies to enhance the immune system and God-given immune system.

01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:21.760
<v SPEAKER_02>Absolutely.

01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:25.760
<v SPEAKER_00>Yeah, working together and detoxing is so important.

01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:27.760
<v SPEAKER_03>Um, well, well said.

01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:28.319
<v SPEAKER_03>Dr.

01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:30.800
<v SPEAKER_03>Tony, thank you for being here, Marilyn.

01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:32.479
<v SPEAKER_03>Thank you for uh your input.

01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.079
<v SPEAKER_03>No doubt you were meant to be here as well to share her story.

01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:37.680
<v SPEAKER_03>So thank you for being vulnerable.

01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:42.079
<v SPEAKER_03>But look, if you made it this far, if you found the show, just like Dr.

01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:43.680
<v SPEAKER_03>Tony said, you were meant to be here.

01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.039
<v SPEAKER_03>But maybe it's not for you.

01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:48.239
<v SPEAKER_03>Uh maybe it was from somebody else or for somebody else.

01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:50.800
<v SPEAKER_03>That's why you need to share the show, like the show.

01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:53.359
<v SPEAKER_03>People need to hear these words right here.

01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:58.880
<v SPEAKER_03>And you can hear the importance of it in our words, in where we are right now in humanity.

01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:00.720
<v SPEAKER_03>So please like and share.

01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.920
<v SPEAKER_03>And thank you for another amazing episode, Dr.

01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.159
<v SPEAKER_03>Pompa podcast from pain to purpose.

01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:07.840
<v SPEAKER_03>No doubt that was your story, man.

01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:08.479
<v SPEAKER_03>Thank you for sharing.

01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:09.439
<v SPEAKER_03>Thank you.

01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:10.000
<v SPEAKER_01>Thank you.